Ace Combat General #236 - /aceg/

First for AC7 to be cancelled.

>>147124997
Second for shitposting is forbidden and despair is destructive

Third for it's too late for us to be this ded

>>147125842
Fourth for truly ded

Jesus Christ did none of you lot migrate?

>>147127857
What is there to talk about? Nothing, really. I'm not shameless enough to post "hey /aceg/, at what age did you lose your virginity" or something like that just to keep the thread alive.

>>147127975
Bamco sound team streams in 5 hours. Should be something interesting there
PA Twitter also posted 7 teasers

>>147128038
The point is, there's some interesting stuff on their Twitter, not like anyone's bothered to check for a while, that could bring discussion, and the sound team stream is worth keeping things up for just in case they surprise us

>>147128430
If something interesting comes up by all means bring it to people's attention, but if virtually nothing is shown at E3 I doubt we'll get anything good on a random Thursday night with no big hurrah beforehand.

>>147128585
You never know.
Besides, have you seen the magazine covers on their twitter? It's pretty fucking nifty that they're doing some groundwork for the plot already

>>147129090
Yeah, that is cool. Sad to see so much emphasis on drones phasing out people but I guess it's just addressing the elephant in the room. Maybe they'll do something cool with it.

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The ASF-X is really sexy. Shame that the skin and experimental version are both Nippon Banzai tier. I have the Nagase but it never feels right to use anything other then her emblem, which looks stupid.

>>147131692
Nagase is really sexy. Shame that she has a dick.

>>147132992
Well she has to have one since girls can't be aces.

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>decide to find girls can't be aces pastebin
>while reading click one of the unknown pastes
>get warhammer beach volleyball rp
http://pastebin.com/0qzHzU4w (Aces)
http://pastebin.com/yNhVqsPJ (Warhammer volleyball)

>>147132992
>>147133259
Fuck your shit memes

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>>147133614
>memes

Whatever helps you sleep at night pal.

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Reminder that Idolm@ster is more /aceg/ related than boatsluts.

>10
and so soon after we reached 750 last time too

>>147135951
Reminder that those blasphemous slutty puchis are not part of /aceg/

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>>147140234
reminder they keep this general alive

Reminder that puchposting and anti-puchiposting are the same thing as long as both don't go way over the wall (read: no lewd postings)

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>>147140519
Indeed

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>>147140667
ahh... reminds me of the old pony days.... all that fun posting!

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>>147140731
puchi is love
puchi is life
true AC fans love puchis

X-Wing when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySHDUU2juM

>MVP in Harrier

Feels damn good. Been forever since I last saw one do that. I miss early Infinity days

>>147143142
I gave a ADA-01B a run for its money in a Lv7 Mirage. Guess MR does count after all...

This thread is contaminated by puchis.

Let it die and we'll start over from zero.

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>>147144045
and yet, you kept it alive?

So what about that music stream or whatever? Didn't it happen already?

>>147145673
Doesn't look like they have a VOD up so I've got nothing

>>147124730
I don't agree with it, but it's understandable. Pixy does betray you and nearly nuke the world, and PJ is Wardog Squadron done right.

>>147143598
Well, it was in a cst-restricted room but my teammate was also in a Harrier and the rivals had a Persian Cat so things went pretty well I guess

>>147144045
This is what the V2 for

>>147145673
I hope they'll tease the main theme of AC7

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Reminder that it is one month and a half until Gamescom. Hopefully AC7 will make an appearance there.

>>147147685
V2 launched

>9

>>147132992
>shame she has a dick
>he doesn't like the benis
baka lad

That blind AC: Zero stream was pretty great, would recommend.
"Yo buddy, still alive? And thanks."
"Go fuck yourself"

>>147151173
Anybody have any suggestions for what to name the RPG?

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Yo buddies, my ps2's av cord has been fucked for a while. The audio one looks like pic related. Is it fixable or should I just buy a new one?

>>147152159
A.C.E.S.
Air
Combat
Experience
System

>>147152216
It's fixable, but not well. The sound quality would probably suffer for how fucked the wires are. I would recommend just buying a new one.

>>147152216
Just cut out the damaged portion and then splice it back together.

Alternatively, spend $8 on a new one.

>>147152216
*video
That's just a pic of the video cord. I think it's gone beyond hope.

>>147152347
>>147152367
Thanks
Are there any brick-and-mortar stores that won't charge an arm and a leg for em? Or is online ordering the only option?

>>147152508
You could try Gamestop, or Microplay, or whatever the hell you guys have for used game stores down there. There are third-party knockoffs of the wires that would do the job just as well.

>>147152508
Build a time machine and go to radioshack.

>>147152410
>not using a component cable or pic related
Brother, you need the magic of perfect quality video.

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>>147152753
Fuck, here's pic related

>>147152508
You can buy a monoprice cable off Amazon that does component out for the wii, ps2/3, and Xbox 360 for $10. I recommend that. Seriously, component is much better.

>>147152892
>VGA
>not SCART

>>147152941
Meme cord

>>147152941
Also an option, although less accessible.

The google machine is giving me some neat facts about all that stuff. Thanks, aces! Time to see if my shitty splice works

>>147153151
SCART is the shit. Best analog connector ever made. It can carry composite, component (both YUV and RGB), s-video, and some other signals nobody uses. Pity it never took off outside PAL regions.

Did Namco sound team reveal anything AC related in their stream this morning?

>>147153576
It works, no quality degradation either. Time for some comfy ac04.

>>147153683
Wait SCART isn't used outside PAL? What the fuck do burgers use then?

>>147155156
We used composite for the longest time. Some consoles supported component. Eventually HDMI got popular and analog stopped mattering.

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>>147155453
To be fair my PS2 has composite cables too, but they go into a scart adapter.

>10

More like shart.

On a 12 hour drive to Washington D.C.
Do you guys know if there's any fighter aircraft at the Smithsonian Air & Space?

>>147158803
You mean the national air and space museum? The answer is all of them.

>>147158803
There's two sites.

There's the Air and space museum in the capital (has the ww2 and space stuff/experimentals and civil stuff, check out the F-4 simulator.)

Most of the big/interesting stuff is in the steven f udvar hazy center.

>>147153868
It was two hours of them discussing and playing with synthesizer programs and drum generators. Take from that what you will.

>>147159205
"""simulator"""
Only cool part of it is being able to fly upside down desu

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>>147158906
>>147159205
>steven f udvar hazy center
>F-4 simulator
Delicious

>>147161014
You should go to the Dayton USAF museum if you get the chance.

>>147160494
That's pretty damn cool senpai.

>>147161130
Only reason to go to that state.

>>147161130
>>147162168
That and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, I presume?

>>147162168
Agreed.

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>>147163492
>>147164453
About to max out the Su-37 in AC3D, already done with the F-16, Rafale, and F-22. What should I do next? I was thinking either the S/MTD, YF-23, or the F-2A.

>>147165703
F-14D

>>147166891
F-14D it is then. There's a Garm's Eye and Mobius Loop cockpit parts and the Ace's Amulet could possibly be a reference to Talisman. I wonder if there's anything for Wardog or Razgriz.

>>147167367
A <<Rise>>

>9

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>>147170760
Turn that 9 and frown upside down.

>>147152892
Is there a PS2 VGA cable?

I seem to remember trying to find one and not being able to.

>>147172327
https://www.ebay.com/itm/381564492038
There is stuff like this on ebay. I don't know about the quality though as I've never tried it.

<<Rise>>

>>147175973
<<"No">>

>10

>>147180810
>"Beginners Welcome"

>>147180810
W-what the fuck
Kill yourself

>>147185581
>get a load of this newfag.

>>147186454
dumb weeb

>>147185581
>being that much of a bitch
If you've ever eaten meat that's pretty much how you'd do it, quick enough to be painless.

>>147187080
It's been well documented that Warcrimes consumes a steady stream of Meat. Animal or otherwise.

>>147187456
He's not eating meat, he's just sucking out the protein. Might as well be eating soy really.

>>147186573
>puchiposting
>"dumb weeb"
>antipuchiposting
><<Rise, nuggets>>
><<No.>>
>Nagase dick
>ded
>page 10
>Bamco Jewery
Check, check, and check. All we need is /mgg/ shitposting and "do you like x namefag?" and this thread wil be complete.

>>147188053
What about Thunder is a girl?

>>147188124
I actually haven't seen that one in quite a bit.

>>147188245
Good riddance. Hopefully thunder died in an F-4 related accident.

>>147188395
No, thundy's still around. Just nobody cares whether they got a dick or vag in their pants. Besides, everyone know's thunder has a F-4E

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>>147189350
Hi, Thunder.

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>>147189638

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>>147189750

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>>147190674

>>147187080
Oh, in that case fascinating. I was mostly confused by the apparent age of the chickens, figured someone was grinding them up for fun or something
Is that how veal is made?

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>>147192331
Veal is beef.

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>>147192951
Oh
Well speaking of tiny things, mirage a cute. How good is its radar/avionics and speed/maneuverability compared to other aircraft?

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>>147194339
You need to be more specific.

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Step aside phantoms. Best plane coming through

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Post planes that can break the sound barrier on the deck while carrying ordnance.

>>147194773
How does the raw radar range on the Mirage stack up to modern F-16s?

>>147198576
Do you mean the Mirage IIIC, IIIE, F1, F1CT, V, 2000C,2000N, 2000D, 2000-5, or 2000-5 Mk.2?

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Gotta go fast!

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>>147200465

>>147200465
On that note, happy Canada day folks

>>147199076
2005 mk2

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>>147201836
"Thomson has claimed that the original RDY outperformed the AN/APG-66/68 of the F-16 and the AN/APG-65 of the F/A-18 Hornet."

>>147198576
Also you need to specify what variant and block when you say the F-16.

F-16C Block 30s are a whole different beast from a F-16F Block 61.

>10

>10 yet again

Arrived at D.C., and apparently Air & Space is having some Anniversary thing until 8am tomorrow.

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Sup aces, any of you traveling this weekend?

>tfw flight to south america delayed by an hour and a half
Time to S rank some missions on AH Legacy.

>>147212439
Why the fuck would you go to South America on Freedomweekend?

>>147212532
>being patriotic
>not exploring your oyster

>>147213046
But burgers and barbecue and fireworks

>>147212439
I'll be exercising my freedom to work through saturday, sunday and monday.

>>147214096
that sounds awful.

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>>147214870
No rest for the wicked, and the righteous don't need it.

Where are the west coast aces? Are they going to let us crash?

>>147217153
With no survivors

>>147217153
They're being lazy shits

>finally succumb to temptation and pay the lvl 7 upgrade of the Strigon Leader
THIS SHIT HANDLES AS WELL AS MY LVL 13 MIKI HOLY FUCK SEND HELP

Its a fucking shame ADMMs are mediocre as hell

>>147218150
with lightweight prop, lightweight awareness, and warhead M or L if you have the slots it's pretty good. Downing 4 F-22s is satisfying, or if you go all out power killing camilla in one volley.

>flight delayed
>american airways gate is right across from me with a 4 hour delayed flight
>white bearded guy sperging out about muh America
>their plane taxis into the gate
>the desk announces the plane will get cleaned and boarding will commence
>psyche the flight is cancelled
>the white male chimps out start screaming and banging at the desk demanding to know why the flight is canceled
>THIS IS AMERICA MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
What a grear night.

So what are some fun things to do while you're grounded?

>>147219160
Aw shit clover messed up the linebreaks.

>>147219160
>So what are some fun things to do while you're grounded?

Space Team

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>>147219079
>equip all that
>mfw now I'm unable to buff standards
Is it true that SPW damage plans also improve propulsion? would be a nice workaround

>>147222346
All you really need is homing L for standards, though I'm at level 12 for my standard CFA so your experience is different. As for the combo part I don't think so, if there is it isn't easy to see. You should have some slots though that's the nice thing about light parts.

>ded

<<Rise>>

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>10
<<Awaken! Demons of the 4th C!>>

>>147219160
>Those evil white males

I'll take things that never for $400, racist.

>>147237678
Oh ye of little faith
People are dicks, and that is not beyond the limits of "dumb shit I've seen people do in public"

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Hey aces, do you all have the aceg version of this, both the updated and non updated ones. Got a new phone. So I lost the pics. The every aceg thread pics would be nice too.

>>147219160
You could write, it's what I do. That or you could break out your laptop and play vidya.

Alright canucks, pack up your hornets, your day is over

>>147240960
There will the super arrow ONE DAY, then everyone will fear our maple leaf shaped planes.

>>147241310
>forward swept wings.

Absolutely disgusting.

>Emergency Air Strike 4p no bots
>go ECM duty

And not a single buddy was shot down that day.

Anyway, what is the BGM there? Sounds nice but cant remember which game it came from

>>147242616
Rendezvous from 5 iirc

>>147242616
Isn't it Rendezvous.

>>147242616
Just checked, definitely "Rendezvous"

>10

>DC has hills, a body of water, a city, and a forest all from one window
This place is not Florida.

>Still no S-32
>Still no Apalis

Why live?

>>147248714
For 7

Awful ded for a weekend

>>147251182
catching up with games I bought during steam sale

>>147251337
Any good picks?

>9

Has Bamco announced new drops this month for Infinity?
>>147251182
I'm busy with D.C. stuff and dealing with family. I try to bump the thread when I can.

>>147256453
No word yet

>10

>>147260624
>again

>>147262802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__biilMpnmw&index=71

>>147264604
Play another one

>tfw customers won't go and stay go
It's a holiday weekend, you fucks. Go do something other than waste your time shopping before anywhere has deals posted

>>147267185
But muh freedom day sale

>>147256453
Yep, I remember neu delpenis and b2 razor being in there, check notifications in main menu.

>10

So is assault horizon even worth £4?

>>147272104
No
Get a Raider's Sphere game instead or something

>>147272104
Got it, but no clue why.

It's not a good AC game.

And congratulations to Germany for advancing in a match that only got interesting in the benuldies
How mad are you, facedrag?

>>147275713
>football
Yet, I'm still kinda sad that our team fell with Portugal, it's nice to see people in country not arguing about every single shit for once

>>147275713
Not much, but walking back home between a mad people was surely fun as hell.

>Deder

>>147279707
>de_ded

>>147281401
>de_ded2

>>147285448
P90 rush?

Is everyone ded?

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>>147291189
I got distracted inducting new people to the RPG.

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>>147291189
I was at Air & Space enjoying planes. Tomorrow, I'm going the annex. I'll bump the thread meanwhile with relevant and thread-related pics.

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>>147292637

>>147291189
I was busy giving head and playing ac6 for the first time!

It's a pretty fun game

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On Saturday, July 3, 1999, Ulysses entered Earth's gravity and shattered into thousands of fragments, which showered the northern hemisphere.

"Ulysses Day" has since been observed every July 3rd as a day of thanksgiving and solemn remembrance of the innocent lives lost.

>>147292637
Might want to ration those out, buddy.

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>>147292786
Just a heads up, I'm not really one to take pics. So, most of the stuff I have is at the end. That means no space or civil stuff, and no Pioneer nuke.

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>>147293115
Don't worry buddy, I got you covered.

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>>147293216
>>147292926
Noted. You think PA will ever add the Mustang to Infinity? They could have it come after the Lightning.

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>>147293664
Nope, doesn't have 20mm gun.

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>>147293664

>>147293915
Oh hey an MC 202

>10

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hi every1 im flying upside down!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is boris but u can call me t3h 1nV3rt3d fl13r oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random pilots like me _… im 23 years old (im rand0m 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch a1rsh0ws w/ my boyfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! hes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random pilots =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and waffles,

t3h 1nV3rt3d fl13r oF d00m

>>147300419
It actually impresses me that you took the time to make this

<<RISE RUSEGRIZ>>

I really hope we'll get AC7 news soon. When is TGS?

>>147301918
Not 'till September. Gamescom in August should be interesting though

>>147302029
>Gamescom in August should be interesting though
What should we expect though?
Will it be like E3? Absolutely nothing.

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>>147300419
This never fails to make me cringe, copypasta or not. Just knowing people that were like that and that this was a thing is enough.
>>147293747
Would it be too much of a stretch if PA made it a "modified" modern variant with a 20mm?

>>147302809
Expect nothing, hope for something, and look at other things too

>>147303224
No Mustang flew with a mixed caliber armament, so yes

>>147303224
Prop bombers when?

>>147303398
Plenty of mustangs flew with 20mm cannon. Just none with cannon and Merlin engines.

>>147306689
Mixed caliber armaments. I'm aware of the 20mm mustangs, but Bamco seems to have laid down a requirement that all props have a mixed caliber main armament and as far as I know no mustang did

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>>147307128
Did the Italians have any WW2 fighters? I think they made like maybe 3 models? Anyway, I fucking adored the naval aircraft section.

>>147308074
They did have a solid domestic aircraft industry, but it was never as famous as the Luftwaffle

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>>147308169
Gotcha. A nice coincidence is that my cousin got pic related as a drop in Infinity this morning.

>>147308074
>those two chinooks at the left with a razgriz paintscheme
Wat

>>147308074
>Did the Italians have any WW2 fighters?
They did. I just don't remember the names of them.

>>147127148
Never

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>>147293915
The Folgore is my planefu.

>>147308074
http://italiantechtreewtint.weebly.com/aircraft.html

It's War Thunder, but these guys made a pretty good list of Italian WWII aircraft. They had some good shit, just not the industry to really produce them in high numbers.

The Fiat Centauro is arguably one of the better late-war fighters.

>>147307128
Uh, except the Sky Kid planes, you mean.

>>147314759
>Tfw the few times Italy wasn't undemanned or with century-old tech it had fucktard generals anyway.
Only Rommel could save us.

Acepedia, the Ace Combat wiki, is a good source of information regarding the series, right?

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Since the thread is ded, might as well post this.

Mobius 1 is cute as fuck

>>147068938
Some of us hate the living shit out of Ace Combat players (mind you, for reasons hat I find completely understandable), but other than that /simg/ is far from being a "true" circlejerk, giving that there are autism fits in practically every thread.

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>>147319439
>tfw Piaggio Aerospace is in Arab hands now
I'm not even Italian and it hurts. It's almost as bad as the new Dornier company set in China.

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>>147324407
Why though, simming per se is already full of autism thanks to all the studying and everything that needs to be done, but I never understood the underlying elitism that some people in the community get when it comes to other games.

It's nice to see the /simg/ kinda back though.

>>147324932
Half of Italy is in Arab's hand.
The other half is invaded by niggers.
The only part that saves itself from this hellhole is some of the south, but that's because the various mafias are stronger than out governament.
That or they are the same thing and nothing changes.

>>147325092
You'll understand why on your own after you play combat flight sims online for a few years, if I posted why here I'd only cause a shitposting spree.

>>147325797
Explains why half the aircraft industry here is italian.

>>147325851
I do, but mostly WWI and WWII stuff, because you know, Air Quake.

Today I noticed that the Erusean F-14 in AC4 has a Sky Kid Baron emblem on it.

>>147325851
I really do want to know why the hate, though. I dropped by /simg/ once to ask how alive PvP was (because you know, fighter combat) and they threw a shitfit. I can't for the life of me understand why.

So about a week ago I found a PS2 laying around in my garage that my old man had put aside 2 years ago and forgot to tell me about, Immediately got out the 3 AC games on it and I have to say, time had really distorted some of the praise I had for that game.

I think the worst part was AC5's attempt at characters, It was the most godawful cringey trash. For whatever reason, AC5 has alot more of that dirty nip pacifist drivel that honestly felt like a massive cockblock through the whole thing. AC4 and 0 had the characters down perfectly, Soldiers, who fly and face death, nothing more needed. The Flight models felt tighter in AC5 than 4 but I didnt notice much of a difference between 5 and 0's. Did anyone else notice the analog sensitivity on AC5 was really fucking weird? Like Id have to press down really fucking hard, I thought it was from using an OG PS2 controller from 2005 but when I got to 0 it didnt have that issue.

I liked the unlock system for planes in AC5 than the others, progression and mastering a plane felt nice but the games campaign length really isnt suited for it. Really a shame. I was also surprised that cockpit view was extremely limited, just a static panel model and you couldnt even look into the meat of it, it would cut off right at the top.

Why is AC5 so widely praised for its story? It was so obtuse and awful, the links to the Belkan war were really cool but the disgusting character padding and dialogue was just too much to take any of that seriously.

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>>147327607
>pacifist drivel
Belkan detected

>>147327607
Have you lurked these threads much? 5 is the butt of many jokes about shitty characters and bad plots. 04's objectively got the best plot. Zero is decent as well, but 5 is trash.

>>147328137
It's canonized for the exact reasons you listed: gameplay.

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>>147328137
Zero has Pixy in it though.

04 was pretty good, but it just made me want to play a Yellow squadron game more than anything else.

>>147326352
The flight sim stance towards AC fans is for the most part snobbish and comes in part from (in my honest opinion completely warranted) elitism from people that have been playing combat flight sims online since the 80s, in part because the worst part of the fanbase tended (and still does at least to some extent) to use lore related handles online and being cancerous retards, which in turns got flight simmers to play the games (and some of them absolutely didn't like them one bit because they aren't the target audience at all I suppose).

And this doesn't have anything with /simg/ itself. /simg/'s attitude towards AC players was snobbish at the very beginning, much like most of the flight simming community, until a couple ACfags went in butthurt mode after someone criticized the game's bad parts (and also praised what he thought were the good aspects) and completely shat up that thread, and after that they started shitting up other threads on purpose.

>>147327607
>Why is AC5 so widely praised for its story?
Very vocal teenager faggots and I'm not even joking. Have you ever been on ACS? If not, I'm glad for you and I really mean it.

>>147328997
>warranted elitism
Is it ever? Get your point though.

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>>147329387
>ACS
Ace Combat Skies? Must've missed that fun.

>>147329389
>Is it ever?
Yeah, but I'd love to spit on the faces of the people that think they're hot shit just because they play DCS (and only ever fly the Flaming Cliffs planes).

>>147328137
No im afraid not, I come here sporadically, I dont own a PS3 for Infinity but the idea of not being able to play as much as I want without paying for fuel puts me off, and yonks ago when I came here to talk about the OG PS2 games I just got shouted down that theyd already discussed them to the point there was nothing left to discuss. I was just throwing out my 2 cents after not having touched the games in so long.

On another note I noticed some really fucking weird AI behavior, especially on larger aircraft like the Enemy AWACs, Refuelers and such, Theyd just start maneuvering like fighters and fly through the ground lol
The first 3-5 times I fought Pixy on the last mission were horrible, the AI would outright avoid any altitude above 2.4km apparently and would just turn away from me no matter what(This is on the head on sequence, I had to start the mission from the Avalon Dam strike from the beginning to fix it)

Would you guys recommend a PS3 for infinity? Its been a long time since its release, is it alright? I always only ever heard people say its the absolute devil or praise its shit like it was a holy second coming. Im a bit hesitant to shell out for a PS3 since I got a 360 a long time ago for AC 6 and Armored Core FA, but it wouldnt take a long amount of my time to grab and theyre cheap, alongside some other interesting games

>>147329501
Yes.

>Must've missed that fun.
It was unbelievably cancerous, not even the admins could bear it anymore, one of our old tripfags said that they turned on to IRC and other IMs (and also invited a few of the decent posters there) and basically started to consider ACS as a chore in a matter of not even 2 years.

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>>147329651
All I ever have in my head when I read elitism is that one retard on the IL2 steamforum that went berserk over IL2 Battle of Stalingrad. To this day I'm not entirely sure why he wanted it to fail so badly.

>>147329674
Yeah the head-on sequence seems to get bugged every now and then.

As for infinity, no clue I don't play it anymore, the fuel stuff was just too annoying and it's not that great after a while. Just here for the PS2 and PSX games.

It's not Assault Horizon at least, so they fixed that part.

AC6 is pretty good though few planes and fewer but longer missions compared to the PS2 games if you ignore the annoying girl.

>>147330172
I don't know what particular sperg you're talking about but I'll just say that BoS had a fuckton of problems at launch, and not all of them got addressed.

>>147330172
I didnt mind the story in AC 6, the part where the former stovie military doods at the end said themselves, if they had the choice to have not started the war, they still would have gone through with it really resonated. I thought it was a decent war story, and thankfully it removed its cutscene characters from the game itself, which is something 5 really fucked up on.

The flying is without a doubt the best, but that said I havent played AC: I. Fewer planes wouldnt have been a problem if they didnt all fly so similarly, at least the early aircraft. I shekeled up for every alt skin DLC, a total of 150 dollars

Its like having 50 planes :^)

>>147330495
There is a reason why I didn't buy into Battle of Moscoew despite the Folgore. No options menu still kills it for me even on the new PC, ontop of the lack of a good DCG.

I'm just saying that guy started months prior to beta and continued up until noone gave a shit anymore.

Doesn't really matter either way.

>>147330803
>lack of a good DCG
I thought someone rigged an external program a la RoF, but then again I was never really interested in BoS as I find that theater unappealing.

>>147329674
>>147330172
>headon sequence is bugged
It's not bugged, actually. Fly away from pixy until you don't render him anymore and then charge straight at him. It works every time.

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>>147330645
Story was ok, I'm just saying that Angels shit was annoying because they kept repeating it as we all know.

On that note, I wouldn't mind having a story that tries the squadron stuff again. Not in the sense that AH or 5 tried, but still. Pilot accounts from the wars are usually interesting to read.

>>147330886
I don't think that thing was updated, but I haven't checked in ages.

Wish they'd give us some France or Italy, shit's really absent from WWII flight sims. Africa too.

>>147328997
Oh it's because it's a bunch of old fucks not being able to handle kiddy autists
Makes sense, happens everywhere.
>using AC handles
I would cringe. Ace Combat is essentially a space combat game reskinned for fighter jets lmao. I do want to play a simulator, but mostly only to pvp air to air, bombing ground targets in an f-15e or flying that old POS a-10c just sounds boring compared to the high stress bvr eyes-glued-to-instruments palms-sweaty-mom's-spaghetti engagements

>>147331292
>Oh it's because it's a bunch of old fucks not being able to handle kiddy autists
Oh hey thanks for proving my point.

>mostly only to pvp air to air
Then play Rise of Flight.

>>147331379
What did I say that triggered you? I didn't make excuses for anyone, the oldfags just rejected the spergy newcomers lmao.

And if Rise of Flight was modern aircraft maybe :^) but i wonder if you missed the part where BVR combat looked fun.

>>147331379
Something wrong with PVP?

>>147331046
Yeah. I would really like an actual squad thing going. 0 set the stage for it I think, and its gotta be separated from that pacifist trash. Give me soldiers who love their country, and hate their enemy. Give me men who live to die flying in the skies, give me a woman who flies up because shes got nothing below. That makes for tight shit.

Give me fucking Area 88, Its what AC2 was based off, and it was MINT

>>147331679
>hate the enemy
But that's wrong
You have to let go of hate, to survive, and to adhere to the rules you've set for yourself

>>147331679
You need to read some WWI account, they all had fun in the air back then.

Richthofen's biography reads like he was hunting for sport all day long. Shit was fun to read.

>>147331861
Everyone knows the cannon playstyle for Galm 1 was Soldier

>>147331508
Just ignore them. /simg/ is full of autist manchildren that get off on telling new players they're retarded. They're not actually helpful; they just enjoy talking down to you and calling you stupid for not figuring something out immediately that probably took them months.

I seriously recommend looking at any other sim forum first. Reddit, the DCS forums, whatever. As bad as they are at least you'll get help and the elitist cunts get shouted down. I hear the /simg/ teamspeak is alright but I haven't ever been on so I can't speak to it.

>>147332508
Oh please half of the point of our existence is helping out new people, I bet you came off as a fag and got told to fuck off as a result.

Oh and _some_ peeople from TS are alright.

>>147332135
Dunno, I feel like the most fleshed out order would be Indigo/Schwarze/Gault, just because of the apparent effort put into their characters. So is Gault considered the hardest single player fight in the series?

>>147332859
>So is Gault considered the hardest single player fight in the series?
Pffff

>>147332752
If that's the case why is it that every time I looked at /simg/ it was a hive of newfriend-hate circlejerking? It's totally possible I've been looking at the exact worst times, but somehow I doubt it. /simg/ is no more helpful than any other sim forum and yet has these unhelpful elitist spergs that you can't seem to get rid of, so why would I go there when I can go somewhere that they get told to fuck off and die?

>>147332859
Gault just has a fuckton of planes, don't they? What was the lore for them again? I don't seem to recall anything in particular, same goes for Indigo actually.

Schwarze is kinda interesting but also edgy as all hell.

>>147332991
>schwarze
>edgy
No, they just -look- edgy. Their captain was pretty down to earth.

For Gault, they were the masterminds behind the entire AWWNB, the lead pilot was the inventor of the v2. They were the bad guys behind the whole game and sort of behind AC5 as well.

>>147333470
>captain
I'll be honest I don't remember their interviews.

And never really noticed that, or just don't remember it.

>>147332958
Who is? Legitimately curious.

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>>147333562
Not that anon but I got this.

>>147333742
>gelb
>hard
How?

>>147334020
Last time I asked it was the combination of backfiring missiles and meeting a Flanker squad this early in the game in a ground-pounding mission.

>>147332990
What the fuck are you on? The furry and a few of the other decent people from the TS regularly offer to tutor new people and they've been doing that from october 2015 if not earlier (the /wgg/ days).

You generally get told to kill yourself, fuck off and get laughed at respectively if:
You come off as an ACfag (and I already amply explained why) or /wtg/;
Post something like "how do i get mad a2a killz xdd";
You post something really dumb such as "how do I boom and zoom in a 4th gen jet fighter", "do I really need a joystick".

Other than that we're usually helpful.

>>147334227
As asked before, what the hell is wrong with A2A or PvP? Just curious.

>>147332991
>What was the lore for them again
Belkans that joined AWWNB because of nationalism or something retarded like that.

>>147333562
The Schnee faggots if you purposefully ignore the EA-6, Silber if you ignore the F-4. Everyone else is on various degrees of the shitter scale, Gault is really easy and fucking stupid because of the fact that they handle scissors much worse than the Schwarze cunts.


>Their captain was pretty down to earth.
He is a mercenary that specializes in killing deserters and despises you for being a mercenary. That's almost "nothing personell" tier edgy. I don't remember his characterization in the cutscenes and I don't particularly care about rewatching them.

>>147334389
There is nothing wrong with PvP per se. It's just that public airquake generally brings out the absolute worst of people, especially in DCS and IL-2.

>>147334539
>I don't remember his characterization in the cutscenes
That's the thing, though. Those cutscenes characterize the aces more than any of their battle radio chatter does

>>147333742
>Watching thunder try a canon (F-15C) ace run.
>Takes like 6 fucking tries to beat gelb

>Some months later watch thunder do an F-4 ace run
>Handily defeats gelb

Is this the power of flying your planefu?

>>147334753
I remember that in the cutscenes some of them are practically completely different people, so I judge them just on their radio chatters and their deeds in the war that we are certain of.

>>147334802
No, that is the power of not being a drooling retard.

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>>147334893
>completely different people
A few years can do that to you.

Happy Ulysses day.

>>147334539
>schwarze
>mercenary
They were a Belkan air force squadron
They did a lot of other shady shit besides killing deserters

>>147329674
Infinity is extremely fun but jewy. Get it, buy the one time things (unlimited campaign, free flight, etc.) and nothung else. Focus on getting or leveling one fighter and one attacker.

>>147334893
Yeah, that's just what happens when you've had a decade to reflect on Belka

>>147335097
Schwarze was mercs. Zubov was a Yuke, remember?

>>147335087
Yeah but it makes most of the shit they say in the cutscenes (save for straight up facts but even then you should take these with a grain of salt) irrelevant.

Those interviews could be downright lies.

>>147335671
Operative word being -was-
He left the yukes and joined the belkans

>>147335769
You never stop being a Yuke.

>>147329674
Infinity is extremely fun but jewy. Get it, buy the one time things (unlimited campaign, free flight, etc.) and nothung else. Focus on getting or leveling one fighter and one attacker.

Can we take a moment to appreciate the real hardy sons of bitches of Strangereal?

Mother fucking Estovakians

crazy sons of a bitches fought a civil war out of all parties they possibly could, leading to the absolute best and strongest one after half a decade of intense fighting across their country.

How is that not fucking hardcore?

I wish that would hurry up and happen to Europe already

>>147335097
"Assigned to the 13th Night Fighter Division 6th Tactical Fighter Squadron, and feared even by allied forces throughout the war as "The Escapee Killer". After the war, he fled in order to escape prosecution as a war criminal. There are reports that he is now living in Osea but the truth remains uncertain."

"Assigned to the 13th Night Fighter Air Division 6th Tactical Fighter Squadron. The Night Fighter Air Division was in fact a squad designed to assassinate deserters. Little to no information is known about this squadron, however, inquiry into its nature continues."

"Assigned to the13th Night Fighter Air Division 6th Tactical Fighter Squadron, all personal information regarding this pilot has been erased. The Night Fighter Air Division appears to have had other duties besides eliminating deserters, however, details remain scarce."

>>147334539
>The Schnee faggots if you purposefully ignore the EA-6, Silber if you ignore the F-4
I'll elaborate on that a bit:
Schnee is hard because in AC most of your SA comes from the radar, and using the right stick for looking around is clunky as fuck. You can't even lock on them with triangle because you'll lose the lock.
If you have headtracking and rig shit so that you can look around with it the whole fight becomes trivial

If you ignore the F-4 the Silber F-16s have actually good AI, think of early AC04 Yellows - except without the plot armor. Still not too troublesome though as long as you can use the gun well.

>>147335973
That was dumb as fuck on their part.

>>147336136
AC can be played with headtracking? Wat.

>>147336136
Dumb, but really cool backstory. Also youd be kidding yourself if you thought it wouldnt be the perfect setting for another Ace Combat game.

>Your wingman is Victor Voychek
MUH DICK

>>147336241
>map head tracking to left analog
Boom done

I would enjoy a morally grey ace combat story where your squadron in part of the aggressor force.

But dumb nips would probably butcher it and have you defect or something.

>>147336361
I dunno the moment their stuff contains nukes they go full cuck, its pretty lame.

>>147336241
Emulation, nigga.

>>147336256
I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with playing a game for children with black vs black morality. I mean an AC with a story that is more realistic (and more original instead of twisted IRL shit with fantasy names) would be cool but still.

>Your wingman is Victor Voychek
That'd be AWFUL given how bad AC wingmen are. Have you play as him would be better.

>>147336645
Ace Combat 8: Assault Horizon 3.

>>147336645
You know the AC shtick is to be a no name ace pilot, and its not a bad thing. And the wingman in 6 was pretty tasteful, and useful too. Just when they had perfected their game they completely throw everything out for that turd AH

J U S T

>>147333560
Probably because he was the only one who didn't have an interview per say. He died in that dogfight, and you later see what was written on his tombstone.

>>147336916
>and its not a bad thing
It's stale as fuck and so is the post PS2 AC formula. I know it, you know it, the nonretarded part of the AC fanbase knows it, PA knows it. Was trying to change the formula a good idea? Yes. Was AH a huge mistake? YES.

>the wingman in 6 was pretty tasteful, and useful too.
Eh I have mixed feelings about him. I liked his personality and story, his voice was mediocre, his AI is weird as he usually fires a salvo of SP weapons then proceeds to do dickall for 5 good minutes, then if you press the attack button again he fires another salvo. If it were for me I'd make the wingman much more aggressive and make so that his kills don't count towards getting the S rank. You get money from your wingman's kills but like a quarter of the original amount. That way turboshitters could finish the game and good players would have at least a bit of a challenge.

>>147338282
>post PS2
I mean from the PS2 games onwards.

I for one would also love to have a new AC that is more like Air Combat or AC2 in both spirit and gameplay.

>>147338282
Yeah, no, after AC 5 I wouldnt ever trust PA with anything to do with actual Character depth. Even what I barely touched with AH, it was that cringey trash again, ill pass. I dont mind some depth and background being given about who youre playing or the previous protags of the earlier games, but outside of that it just cant be done well by them, nor does it have to. They said themselves, and its why theyre so reluctant to give details on the protags themselves, is that the player is meant to imagine himself as the pilot, not someone else.

>>147338490
>is that the player is meant to imagine himself as the pilot, not someone else.
Here's the thing: I can't do that. Why? My personal decisions don't affect the outcome of things (everything always goes in the exact same way), or better yet, the player can't take ANY significant decision save for TWO games, being AC3JP except your choices are kind of irrelevant in the end so nevermind and ACX, which is kind of a waste of potential if you ask me, as there is no benefit in rushing for Griswall, only downsides, which is fucking stupid if you think about it.

>after AC 5 I wouldnt ever trust PA with anything to do with actual Character depth
Not like AC games had much character depth in first place but I get what you mean and completely agree.

>>147334640
>public airquake generally brings out the absolute worst of people, especially in DCS and IL-2.
I could elaborate on this a little if somebody is curious.

>>147339030
Sure. Old fags being salty that their 20+ years of experience playing against shitty PvE bots got their asses kicked?

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So drifting away from AC5 for a bit, what are the thoughts on 3? Given that that also had a huge story apparently.

I just don't like the whole coorporation vs coorporation thing they had going from what I remember, nor the semi-futuristic stuff. But that's just me.

>>147338824
Youre choice is meant to be what you wanna fly, what weapons you wanna load and how you wanna fly. What do you think youre doing? Just some free roleplay jock who flys into wars with no regards for chain of command or military structuring? Youre either a National Fighter pilot or youre a Merc, both of these things are in positions and sectors where you absolutely do what youre told by the higher ups. Youre not payed/hired to shit up the battlefield with your emotional/verbal projection, youre payed to shut up, shoot the enemy up and do your goddamned job.

I get where youre coming from, but you just cant throw it in there that easily. And if PA tried, im certain itd be a massive drain. Save that for the Online games, Why they havent done a persistent world faction war style thing like Armored Core V/VD baffles me, the series is perfect for that and with some built in VoiP would handle all of that.

>>147339071
This but probably also
>WT arcade

It's a mix of both.

>>147338824
I don't think you're supposed to have any major decisions. You're the soldier, nit the general. The only decisions you shoukd make is in how you carry out your mission, not whether you do so or not. It would be too ambitious to follow that route unless they do something in the vein of an AC3 JAP remake.

>>147339256
>you just cant throw it in there that easily
It's not like dynamic campaign generators are a thing since about 2002 if not earlier.

>>147339161
It was at a period where Cyberpunk Dystopia was big in Japan, if it was received better by the playerbase in Japan we would probably have alot more games with more branching stories and mission/faction variety.

Air Combat - Ace Combat 2 was a nice, steady and easy ride between the two, but then you got 2 - 3 and youre thrown into this massive fucking backstory in a fictional Earth with fucking Ghost in the Shell sprinkled all over. Its really fucking cool, but sit down and think what kinds of people were playing ARCADE shooters and how much of a deviation that it mightve been for them

>>147339161
This is probably coming from my love of MGS2, but I loved the paranoid futurism AC3 had, including the whole deal with Nemo. Frankenplanes are the best since they give you a lot of creative liberty for loadouts, weapons, and handling. The music fit perfectly, the HUD was God's sexy gift to mankind, and I love how they took AC2's route aspect and took it up to 11.

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>>147339463
>Cyberpunk
I suppose that explains it.

Was that translation ever finished?

>>147340157
Yes my dude, Disc 1 is translated and avaliable. All you gotta do is just patch an image and emulate/burn. I havent tried it myself though

>>147339071
I'm saddened that I can't filter you, but anyway:
Faggots that play public non objective based PVP threat it as if it's some sort of shitty fighting game.

In IL-2, every PvP TDM server used the shitty simcade settings and had a shitty set of rules such as
1. No vulching= shooting down planes that are taking off or landing.
2. No boom and zoom (because the average Spitfire nigger is so inept he can't even counter it despite the fact that their plane is perfect for it, they were completely unable to perfom any kind of teamwork). This effectively makes a lot of planes pointless.
If you did either of those you got banned. Sometimes admins would ban even good players from the opposite team, I shit you not. You'd perfectly fit in that environment (if only any of those shitty servers survived to this day, unlike the full realism autism ones that run objective based PvP).

In DCS you have:
the 104th server, airquake faggotry where every side has the exact same plane, which consists in F-15s flying at above the contrailing altitude lobbing their AIM-120s then legging it back to base to load more, and so on.
BlueFlag, "dynamic" campaign (gets worse and worse with every new round, went from being interesting to being more like Battlefield's conquest mode), where both sides act like huge children, the NATO side usually boycotts the 80's ruleset because they don't get AIM-120s and most NATO players aren't capable of putting the actually good AIM-7 to use, and the PACT players boycott the 2000's ruleset because of AIM-120 spam AND NATO players completely filling the server. the most retarded people from the teamspeak managed to get themselves permabanned and it was glorious
Again, you'd fit right in in both.

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>>147340402
But only disc 1, I meant the rest, or how does AC3's disc system work?

>>147340485
>people are having fun differently than I do

>>147340485
The entire community sounds like autistic manchildren and I really don't give half a shit about IL-2. Why all the hate and vitriol?

104th DCS server sounds fun, why is it a problem that both sides have the same gear? Won't whichever pilots have superior tactics and skill win?

>>147340485
*every side has the exact same plane selection

>>147341023
Because friendly fire problems since you don't have magical boxes like in AC. And no, the RWR doesn't tell you if whoever's beaming you is a friend of an enemy. Anyway, suit yourself.

>>147340809
There are problems, and its just Disc 1 for now. I think there was at least 1 path you can play to the end just off Disc 1 but my memory is foggy. Youre best off waiting for Disc 2 to be translated by the end of the year and then playing through it.

>>147341189
>I think there was at least 1 path you can play to the end just off Disc 1
2 endings.

>>147341023
>The entire community sounds like autistic manchildren
You'll be in good company :^)

>>147341279
Oh shit which ones?

>>147341189
>>147341279
I'll have to check it someday. Hopefully works with the PSP too so I can actually play it on the commute.

>>147341592
The janky-ass one where you enter the Electrosphere and kill your optic nerves, and the UPEO one I think?

>>147341592
GR > Ouroboros and GR. Do not fucking play the GR ending, it gives massive spoilers for the true ending. The same applies to the GR one too but to a much lesser extent.

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Another question regarding 3 would be, how bad is the animu bullshit on it?

Also have some art I did ages ago.

>>147341718
>Spoilers
at this point what AC fan hasnt read up on the story? Its been almost 20 fucking years

>>147341718
Actually scratch that, both give massive spoilers.

In order of least spoiler-y to most spoiler heavy it's UPEO > Neucom > Neucom/Ourobors > the rest.

>>147341869
Every watched GITS? The artstyle is the same, it almost feels as a drawn live action. Also your art sucks.

>>147341137
Lmao, so you either need good communication or to not shoot into a dogfight? Sounds pretty simple to me

>>147341387(you)

Two words of advice on AC3JP: 1, consider using a walkthrough as some of the branching missions are really easy to miss (and really interesting) and 2, don't play on hard more unless you're REALLY good with the gun.

Also the text translation for disc 2 is serviceable. The html page's colors will fry your eyes though.

>>147342035
>Also your art sucks
Nothing new, still fun :^)

>>147342305
>text translation for disc 2 is serviceable. The html page's colors will fry your eyes though
There's a translation to go along the game that isn't patched into it yet or what do you mean by that?

>>147342590
>There's a translation to go along the game that isn't patched into it yet
Yes, welcome to 2008 or so. And again it's merely serviceable, you'll perfectly understand what they're saying but expect typos and ESL tier dialogues.

>>147342590
Yeah, translation is done but not patched in. They also said something about proofreading it iirc

>>147342168
Do you understand why I recommend people don't go on /simg/ now? They're all like this. If you don't play the game exactly how they want you to, they sperg out and call you an AC babby or something similar.

>>147343373
>lying on the internet