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someone needed to' edition

(Looted) thread:>>146941360

READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.

LATEST BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS:
E3 Bannerlord siege videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705at0Pr4fM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObwq1WaxQ8

E3 interview by Techraptor :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjEMt7utvE

Last blog:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/15.

OLDER BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS: See Pastebin

PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/2ZjZZZpc

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NOOB GUIDE: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV

M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/

Anon's mods and upstab guide:
http://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df

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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg

Module Recommendations:

>Anon's ACOCK minimod
https://mega.nz/#F!JRQ1DRqA!Evh-3Q3uQRbaLzR4LiQ85A
>Gekonewer
https://mega.nz/#F!itxViDAT!PhBfJWsjATkdqN28V2kZ5g
>Swedish Mayonnaise
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=211788.0

>"I made a mod recently or updated it. Wat do ?"
Link to the OP in your post so that it might be easier to find for the one making the next OP (also for regular people).
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>>147050551
Thanks m8. was jist about to post mine
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>>147050617
we've been too reliant on armor posting anon
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>>147050665
What do you mean
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Exterminate all homosexuals.
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>>147050726
don't you normally post the new threads?
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>>147050796
Oh you mean me. I thought you meant
>"We've been too reliant on armor posting, anon."
I just woken up after having spent the first night of the year where I don't have to care about exams and results anymore (at least for 2 months)
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>>147050887
I and the one who posted >>147050617
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>>147050976
>I and
And I am.* I need some coffee
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Never played this game, bought it years ago on a sale, but now i see the game coming out on ps4. What do you guys think about the potential of the game on console?
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>>147051541
I'm not sure why anyone would play it on console when you can play it just fine on a laptop and get mods
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>>147051541
>What do you guys think about the potential of the game on console?
I'm not too hot about the idea Tbh, and just because of pc mustard race etc.
I think the directionnal attacks are going to be a little bit complicated with a pad.
But apparently its working fine on the nvidia shield some maybe there will be no problems. I don't know.
At least the way the menus are laid out and how the inventory works makes it probably easier to play with a pad.
and like >>147051627 the problem will be the absence of mods, wich are, like, at least 80% of the reasons I play warband still
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What will you name your first character, /mbg/ ?
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>>147052135
My name.
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>>147051541
>console gaming
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acn some1 kind person say when is gekokoju patch neweest?
i very very very very lick creator of mod and his mod - gokojueko
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Axing again

Does anyone have the TweakBro modifications for Blood & Steel? The Pastebin link is busted
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>>147052620
DELET THIS
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>>147052135

Drogglejug. As is tradition.
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>>147052620
yes
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BUTTER AND FEASTS
NOT SHARING FIEFS
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This series any good? The first book is like two bucks and I want to read some Viking historical fiction.
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>>147054838
>historical fiction
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>>147052135
Something to fit my warrior waifu
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>>147052135
"King of Kings"
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>>147055098

What's wrong with historical fiction?

I just want a good story to read.
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>>147055845
tipped
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>>147055845
real history is more interesting, if you want a story read some Mythology my man
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>>147056002

I like reading all three types of work my compadre. I'm just in the mood for some fiction grounded in real events.
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>>147056548
did you watch the show already?
the books are probably better
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>>147056002
>real history is more interesting
They're both interesting if the fiction is well written, and real history can be incredibly fucking frustrating and lower your faith in humanity dramatically.
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>>147056817

I didn't plan on watching the show. Just wanted something nice to read.
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>>147057091
both interesting but actual history is far more interesting as it has actual depth
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>>147057418
Yeah but then you read up on what amounts to all the big stories of the era you're reading and the rest is guesswork...
Plus like, nobody compiles stories of relative nobodies the way people write stories of XXX squire
Historical fiction is usually based off history anyway, like this one knight during the siege of Acre or whatever. Alt history is something else entirely and most idiots who write it have no idea what they're doing without obvious political bias.
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>>147057418
There's nothing wrong with Sharpe you bloody yellow bastard
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>>147057589
secondary sources nigga, let others do the guesswork for you based on corresponding works, archaeology, etc. and you can get a more complete picture of the era you're interested in

it's impossible to see through Roman perfidy when reading just their own sources for example
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>>147057809
Sharpe was comfy as fuck to read as a sort of palate cleanser but I'd choose shit written by actual contemporaries
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>>147057816
And that's the problem, you have to do fuckalltons of work trying to get a 'complete' picture which is rarely ever even 50% complete and is almost always impersonal and grand in scale as well as beyond biased even using more than one source
Nothing's wrong with that but it makes for a poor novel-style story for the most part, which should be personal and have relate-able characters in addition to a gripping story.
Don't get me wrong, I love reading history as its own kind of story, but neither does it scratches the same its nor does it read in the same style. It's like saying "go read high fantasy" when someone wants something similar to Anna Karenina.
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>>147052135
cockslut69
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>>147058103
>discerning bias isn't fun
>the visceral hatred of an author for things he writes about isn't fun to read
reading contradicting sources from people on two sides of a conflict is the equivalent of reading shitflinging on 4chan
I wouldn't call reading up on topics that interest you work either, if you don't like a certain period you shouldn't try to get into it
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>>147058443
Well and truly epic
Fyodor would be proud
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AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE PEERS OF THE REALM, KING RAGNAR HAS DECIDED TO CONFER THIS THREAD UPON KING RAGNAR.

LONG MAY HE REIGN.
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>seeking for Caribbean on kat
>founded a jap porn
>ended up watching indonesian sodomite moving photos
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>>147058740
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>looking up about my ships not following fucking orders in viking conquest
>glance at the list of threads on taleworlds
>"Why can`t I play a dark-skinned character?"
>third response is WE

Godbless.
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Reminder that you will never have pure sarmatian waifu
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>>147059290
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=433575

I'm fucking dying
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>cordoba
>the most populous city during the 11th century
>reduced to a village in 1257
Someone explain this. Also it should be an independent nation during this time. Part of a merchant republic.
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>>147059675
10th century, not 11th, my bad
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>>147059596
didn't you mean to post this?
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,351855.msg8453821.html#msg8453821
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>>147059675
cordobaboos are the worst

>muh populous
>muh merchant republic

Let it go man
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>>147059865
No, I meant to post his posting history.
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>>147059880
I really dont care about the republic in a game like this, but the largest city in spain, being a village. Thats just sloppy.
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>>147059917
I didn't know this is his history desu, you just realised it to me
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>>147059675
>Also it should be an independent nation during this time. Part of a merchant republic.
What the fuck are you talking about?
It was conquered in 1236
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>>147051541
You need to go back, /v/ella
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>>147059675
This reminds me, is Hispania 1200 any good?
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>>147060526
Just play it and tell us if it is
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LONG MAY HE REIGN
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>playing series from very begining
>still sucks at combat
>still playing at 1/4
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>the sturgians are not slavs
>they're generic "le ebin vikings xD"
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>>147060850
you suck because you spent all that time at 1/4 and never had to get gud.

you should always play the hardest difficulty of any game right away, thats how you improve. People who say "I start on normal and work my way up :^)" are lying casuals who start on normal and then play a different game.
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>>147060850
turn it up, you'll be surprised how little difference it really makes
now manual blocking - that's another story
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lel which one of you is this?
>>147059596
>https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=433575
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>>147060526
It's alright, it doesn't really offer anything unique
I imagine it'd be more interesting if you were into iberian history
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>>147059865
>WE
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>>147054838
yeah its pretty good. liked the author series better.
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Is there any easy fuckin' way to compare units and their gear in this game?
It'd be nice if the game let me see my units equipment but holy shit even Morghs is so slow to pop around. I can't even click the gear in their item-listing to see more about it, which means I need to write notes in notepad so I can actually compare anything.
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>>147052135
H A R L A U S
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>>147062546
Bonerlord.
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>>147062694
WHEN
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>>147062546
Brytenwalda has a gear viewer for troops
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Can you upstab with spear and shield?

What are the thoughts on spear and shield versus sword and shield? In Warband of course, not real life.
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>>147064080
Shield and spear is a terrible idea without upstab
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>>147064168
Does that mean you can upstab while also holding a shield?
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>>147064481
I think in VC you can, no idea other mods
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>>147065773
Pretty sure all upstab adds shield+spear upstab
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>mfw butterlord wont have upstab
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>>147064481
every mod/submod i've made has upstab and 1h upstab
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>>147067568
>upstab on horse

Weird, I only get regular stabs on horses, even with upstab installed
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>>147067568
can you make sidestab next?
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>>147067661
it was a test to see if i could get it to work, and you can but it's awkward to use off horseback and a pain in terms of item flags
>>147067681
i'm only limited by what animations are available
i've considered using either the 1h stab animation or the musket butt animation from NW/WFAS as a right stab, but i don't want to use animations that are originally one direction and change them to another because it's confusing
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>>147068108
Thanks for all your work to make spears not shit
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>>147068236
i was more surprised someone on the forums hadn't done it before me, but i'm glad people like it
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I have 3 cavalry units out of my 40 man army, so I can't let them charge recklessly since they're so much faster than the infantry but not a big enough force to survive a charge (they get surrounded etc.). How can I organize them so they come along roughly at the same time/rate as the infantry?
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>>147068501
Use hold f1 to send them far to the left/right of the field

Either A. Wait for infantry to engage and have them charge the rear, or B. Send them after the enemy archers
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Can't wait for CoMM tomorrow, it might have been a year since the last update, but at least it isn't going to be released in 10 days.
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>>147068760
Cant wait for giant awkward dragons
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>>147069074
You should see how the current titans and cyclopes work, the titans are so big their bodies bug out when they die
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>>147068760
damn, I forgot that this thing even exits.
But I've seen too much here to get my hopes up just like that, let's wait and see
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I just dont know what to do in VC. I go around trading and making good money, but the entire combat aspect just seems so unfulfilling.

I wish there was a way to throw money at a faction to make it dominate, instead of messing with that yourself. Just hiring a bunch of top tier mercs and giving them to a lord or something. Then i could play a real merchant ally.
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>>147070228
I did this

>Merchant for about 1.5 years, made shitloads
>Got myself 4 Skeids
>Set up refuge, maxed it out
>Decked out me and my followers in top tier gear
>Began amassing army at said refuge

From there you can pretty much do whatever you want, I suggest getting about 200+ men together, getting them ranked up, then doing port assaults for absolute slaughters
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>>147070228
if you have a bandit leader as a prisoner and 50+ other prisoners, you can send them off as an army to go fuck shit up
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Looking at Morghs in Warwolf, the Japs are supposed to have a Tier 4/5/6 Cav tree: Yabusame, Yabusame Elite, Akasonae.

Has anybody seen them? Wondering why nothing can be upgraded to them. Yabusame are Horse Archers which is neat, then the Akasonae ditches the bow for a Nodachi. Or maybe for 4 Nodachi, since it's listed 4 times for some reason.
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>>147070496
thats the thing, theres a bunch of neat stuff in the game, but its not very inspiring to me at all.

All the factions are just.. theres a bunch of squabbling christian kingdoms, and then theres some vikings that are just basically bandits.

Theres no real connection to inspire me to work towards a goal, i just dont care about any of the factions. I guess then im supposed to make my own faction or something, but honestly.. i can have a comfy refuge on an island and make far more money playing a neutral trader than i could with fifes out my ass.

Basically they have managed to make a game that makes me just not feel like its in my best interest to be violent.
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>>147071180
Warwolfs weird, it has tier 7 troops for china that you cant access because of an arbitrary scripted lock
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>>147071185
you could start a new game as a faction king, that might inspire you to create your own empire
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>>147071185
Kinda helps when you have muh heritage/historical interest in the period to connect you
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>>147071180
There's also a tier 5 ninja, funny. Labeled as an archer with 444 1h/2h/throw.

>>147071284
Yeah, there are several. Hubaoqi (Cav) from Qingzhoubing, Baimaqibing (Cav) from Qianweibing, an unaffiliated Songqibing. They're all labeled T6 (trp_cc_c_6 troop_china_cav_6), so he fucked up or just couldn't decide.
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>haven't played MP for a couple of years
>'Huh, wonder if anyone plays VC, never actually tried it on MP'
>find one server with a load of folks on

>shield walls that actually work
>banners and horns that give bonuses
>Block + Q to beat your weapon on your shield

Fuck Javelins though, and those nasty two handed swords everyone else but the Norse seem to have.
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Which factions in 1257 are best for:

>Cavalry
>Line infantry
>Shock infantry
>Ranged
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>>147071410
Maybe thats it. My paternal lineage is 'english', but it starts at the norman invasion when my ancestors went and kicked the ass of this games 'winner', so ive got no 'muh heritage' to speak of in this game, since my mothers side is all italian.

Which is why i like the brodocks probably.
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>>147072147
god i hate that show
>Fuck Javelins though
they make heads explode
> and those nasty two handed swords everyone else but the Norse seem to have.
they're irish, retarded how 2h axes are "historically inaccurate" but they put 2h swords in a 9th century setting
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>tfw you want lances to break in 1257 so that cav become useful in melee, but dont want spears to break too

;_;
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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
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>>147073049
Ya but what about that dynasty warriors one?
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>>147073049
Why do you keep posting this every single thread? We already have the Dynasty Warriors one.
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>>147073049
How about warwolf?
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>>147073142
>>147073180
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Any good napoleon mod that isn't l'eagle?
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>>147073198
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So anyone think they'd be up for full invasion today
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>>147073049
Just make on ;^)
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>>147072147
Fuck is this show and how is that a shieldwall it's not even in order
Are those Geats?
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>>147073398
The usual host left for 2 months I think
>>147073520
That's Vikings, the "historical" TV show about vikings
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>tfw freelancing and seeing your lords army getting meme'd on due to poor tactical decisions
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>>147072764
use war spears mang, they're unbreakable.
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>>147072401
>2h axes are "historically inaccurate"
...Are they, because I'm pretty fucking sure twohanded axes aren't historically inaccurate, just uncommon.

>>147073579
>shieldmaidens in what doesn't seem to be town defense exist
>she's in charge
Please tell me she's the local tribal chief's daughter or some shit
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>>147073579
I can host it
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>>147072147
I hope she got arrowed in the head. What this shit is called? Is it the last kingdom?
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>>147073674
Pretty sure that's the MC's wife
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>>147073593
Imagine being a Triarii at Cannae watching the Carthaginians melt your cav and trot behind you waiting to charge
>o shit we're gonna die because our leaders are fucktarded and didn't hire merc cav

>>147073739
Who's the MC?
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>>147072147

>leather biker gear
>no helmets
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>>147072147
Thats as much as a shieldwall as the boltons "spearwall"was a spearwall
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>>147073802
Ragnar Lothbrok
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>>147073674
>...Are they, because I'm pretty fucking sure twohanded axes aren't historically inaccurate, just uncommon.
they are accurate, it's a meme
the VC devs were (and still are) under the impression 2h axes were completely inaccurate to the period
they first relented by adding bastard axes, then they added 2 (TWO) 2h axes to the mod
one replaced a fucking wooden club that did 65b
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>>147073835

That's the joke.
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>>147073859
How often does le lady viking save the day for the MC and his norse troops?
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>>147073807
She's wearing chainmail, it's just what appears to be a cotton shirt under the t-shirt mail that's fucking retarded

>>147073859
>Ragnar
Ok so which one of his sisters
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>>147073859

>Raided Lindisfarne
>Raided Paris

Pick one, holy shit.
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>>147072147
>shieldwall
>she's literally the only one who's bracing
>nobody manages to get their shit aligned with the other guy
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>>147073990
Don't know, stopped watching after a season or two.
Though don't expect feminism, just expect 300-tier historical accuracy
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>>147074249
At least the Spartans managed to make their Phalanx look something like a Phalanx and not actors trying to look cool without training to shieldwall
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>>147074164
Lolin at that dude who lifts his shield super high for no reason
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>>147074306
>At least the Spartans managed to make their Phalanx look something like a Phalanx and not actors trying to look cool without training to shieldwall
and then they disassembled that phalanx the second after, to look cool dodging swords and throwing spears
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>>147074417
what the fuck were those swords they used in 300
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>>147074417
Did HOP-LEE-TAYS even carry throwing spears?

>>147074348
That or he's the only smart one
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Is it possible to edit 1257's enterprises so they have not shit payouts?
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>>147074934
well the spears they used could be thrown
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>>147075713
That'd be a TweakMB thing

Although it's reading it as default payout (1k) - I dunno if it just doesn't get the data correctly, or what.

You can also modify the outputs, overhead, inputs, cost, etc. Maybe that's why it's shit payout? Dunno.
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>>147076096
Thats not a payout, its a divider

I set the selling to 500, double should be good
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Why did they make guys getting rekt smiling?
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How do I build relations with towns in Warwolf? Apparently Tavern quests do nothing in that regard.
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>>147076479
Because heaven is comfy place
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>>147076867
>What ever happened to the /mbg/ translation of Warwolf?
It looks untouched for 9 days on the github
https://github.com/Kushinda-Ranfuuhime/mountain-blade-warwolf
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>>147077048
rip
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Does anybody have any idea how troops.txt works?
Warwolf seems to lists several items multiple times on one unit.

I'm wondering if there's a reason, or is it just a fuckup somewhere? I kind of want to delete duplicates so I can more easily understand/control what is going on with the units...but I dunno if it'll mess anything up.

Like there's pic attached and then the teppo samurai has 1370 (the arquebus) listed 5 times. Is there any real reason for it to be like that?
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>>147077290
i'm not sure, haven't tested it, but having duplicate items might increase the spawn rate of that item in the troop's inventory
that being said if it's the only one of its kind (ranged weapon) and the unit is flagged as ranged, it'll always spawn with that anyway
deleting duplicates is fine though
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>>147075995
>throw your spear
>now have no spear
k

>>147077048
Oh should I update it kek
I don't edit on github the editor is utter shit
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>>147077774
in certain cases it's ok to throw your spear
a lot of the spears used in the dark ages were suitable to be thrown and used in melee combat
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>>147077873
Yeah but I mean did they carry extras?
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Anyone know why my f4 menu in 1257 looks messed up like this?
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>>147077970
of those? i imagine not due to the size
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>>147077970
>>147077774
Also forgot to ask, is there a way to make the game check for {his/her} like {he/she}? Because I don't see any instances in the files.
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>>147077774
What have you changed so far? I've been messing with troops.txt for china and japan, but it's not translation so it's not just "shove it in".
Japan I've mostly just added the cavalry as recruitable, but china I flipped some of the infantry around a little bit. Not sure if it was actually even slightly beneficial.

Not even sure why I'm doing this, honestly.
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>>147078026
side effect of having WFAS formations on
i imagine you could rebind them somehow but you'd have to know how to read the text files that it's stored in, like with rebinding brainybots
otherwise there's no way to fix it except for turning WFAS formations off, but then you won't have those formations available in scenes
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>>147078136
Because of autism
I'm just editing the Strings.txt, I don't see troop names in here anywhere.
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>>147078026
some orders don't work properly as well
like holding F1 to tell your dudes to hold position somewhere makes them backpedal to the spawn
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>>147078227
Never tried WFAS, are their formations worth keeping?
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>>147076682
Have you tried visiting the town's raper?
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>>147049014 (Cross-thread)
Civilian & Armor = Civilian & No Armor
No Civilian & Armor = No Civilian & No Armor
Civilian Armor = It Just Works
The AI lords are smart enough to have two sets of clothes for Civilian and Battle.
I guess Pretenders only have Civilian. Which s weird because she still had her Horse, Nagamaki, Tachi and Wakazasushiroll

>>147049742
Were they too small before? Maybe I never really noticed.
Now though they are noticeably to big. I won't have any issue using the old .brf will I? Did you change anything besides the scale in the new one?

>>147058443
What ever happened to the /mbg/ translation of Warwolf?
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>>147078431
well the advantage is those formations can be used in other scenes, since the PBOD style formations (square, ranks, wedge etc) can only be used in battlefield scenes
but shit like sieges, bandit hideouts, village battles won't have those PBOD formations so you're left with either the native formations if you have those WFAS formations off, or the WFAS formations which come in handy in those events
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>>147077290
Probably some kind of slav magic.

>>147078136
>Not even sure why I'm doing this, honestly.
Welcome to being a modder!
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>>147078714
Guess I'll turn them off then, I rarely find myself ever using tactics in sieges beyond hold here+form ranks+stand close
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>>147078468
Didn't even know such a person existed. Is he on the streets or something?
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>>147079449
It's a Town Quest, you have to rape some chick
Only there if you're a guy though, girls get to whore themselves out to some fatass noble for 1500.
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>>147079539
Interestingly, if you do the whore quest and tab out, you get the money, loss of sexual appetite, plus you're still a virgin
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>>147078618

>Did you change anything besides the scale in the new one?

I don't remember, I rescaled them again for the next update though to be smaller
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>tfw sieging Hornburg with my Uruk-Hai bros in TLD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2LO91lsI6U
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>>147079649
That's pretty funny
>no your Eminence, you'll have to be satisfied with a godly blowjob from a 10/10 virgin soaking herself today unless you want to meet the business end of 9000 Nubing and 3000 Shuibing
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>>147079384
personally i have them on but i haven't found much use for them in 1257 besides village battles and some sieges
they're pretty useful in VC though, since the PBOD style formations in that mod aren't really any better than the WFAS ones
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>>147079649
>no options to preserve virginity though alternate means

not even trying desu
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>>147079794
How well does TLD play on Warband? Why does it get multiple patches almost every day?
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>>147079879

I'd have them on, but dont want that mess in my commands menu
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>>147080002
Plays very smoothly senpai, sometimes AI fuck up though. Don't know why it gets so many patches though
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>>147079769
Okay. I'll wait then before tying to do do anything about it myself.

>>147080002
>>147080164
The mod Authur probably has a sync program that keeps it constantly "up to date" with his version. Who knows if anything is actually changed.
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>>147079539
>the only way I can increase my relationship with a town is either by raping or whoring myself out

I can even hear tumblr's outcry jej

So, where do I find him?
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>Warwolf
>Play as the Spanish
>Prepare an invasion force of 10,000 men towards the uncivilized lands of the Aztecs
>get btfo by 8,000 injuns sitting behind a wall

HALP
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>>147080391
Ignore the fucked up localizations elsewhere.
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>>147080461
Maybe try getting one of the natives on your side to subvert them?
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>>147080683
I should have married La Malinche instead of going all the way to China to marry Diao Chan.

But can you do that?
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>>147080683
I'd fuck that native woman, if you know what I mean.
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>>147080852
I know what you mean.
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>>147080809
Is La Malinche actually in Warwolf?

>La Malinche
No idea I've never played it. I'm waiting for the /mbg/ localization/translation before I play it.

>>147080852
I know what you mean.
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>>147081052
>I'm waiting for the /mbg/ localization/translation before I play it.
Are those guys still working on that? I thought there was a problem with the formatting.
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>>147080683
>>147080852
>>147080960
>>147081052
>Mexico considers her a traitor because they think they're more native than Spaniard

What a bunch of fags.
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>>147081191
Mexico is pretty native, ethnically
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>>147081052

Yes, she is.
She's a lady in the Aztec court.

>>147081191
But she is a traitor!

t.Mexican

Also, it's fun to play as the Spanish and conquer Mexico in every game.
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>>147081178
If they aren't then I guess I'll never play it.

>>147081331
Which is to bad because It seems like the perfect place for El Guapio.

What are the Spanish in the "Twisted Time" era , 16th century? Please say yes.
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>>147074467
you mean macharias?

>>147076479
art man, it's fucking art.
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>>147081651
In fairness, the slav English is hardly the worst thing about Warwolf.
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>>147081651
Yeah they're pike and shot
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>>147080534
I guess that quest only appears every now and then. Do I have to level Fascination in order to unlock that? Because I haven't seen any quest related, also that "Prostitution" option up there isn't present.
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>>147081651
They are pretty much, alongside with the Portuguese, the only European factions to use muskets and pikes.
Granada and Morocco use gunpowder too but they're filthy Muslims.
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>>147081817
No, quests in general pop up randomly.
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>>147080683
who is this semen demon
is she an actual historical figure
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>>147081736
Maybe I will give it a shot if I ever finish this GekoNewer patch.

>>147081762
Terrific.

>>147081831
Well I guess my first order of business will be to wipe out the Portuguese. Can't have any competition.
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>>147081324
>>147081331
I don't get it though, because Mexico is culturally definitely not fucking native.
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>>147081178
I am, the formatting issue was me being an imbecile and having an extra line break.
I just don't want to upload the file to github before I finish it.
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>>147081950

Originally I was planning to marry Isabella I, the Spanish Queen in TT, and become King of Spain but ended revolting and taking over the place.
After that I wiped Portugal and Granada before traveling East to find and marry Diao Chan, making her the Chinese Queen of Spain.
Had to reload a previous save because she gave me Gonorrhea for not being a virgin.
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>>147081987
They were permanently changed by the rule of the Spaniards, but they identify as separate from Spain and are more ethnically native than Europoor.
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Why did this fucking slav make all the item names lowercase
goddamn
>>
reeeee
fucking baltic lords defecting to denmark
fuck the peace i'm taking back rightful welsh clay
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>>147082421
Yeah but they culturally greatly resemble the Spanish, not the fucking natives.

>>147082276
You really like my pic huh
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>>147082276
>he didn't listen

I warned you 'bout those sideways vaginas bro!
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>>147082623
reeee
i forgot my image
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>>147082652
You realize Mexican'ts are stupid, yes?
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>>147082652
Yes
Who is she? I need more. Pref nude.

>>147082723
It keeps happening!
I have no regrets.
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>>147082828
is this the beginning of the end for The People's Republic of Wales?
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>>147082997
The Wiccan gods are simply testing his faith. He just needs to prove that he is still their champion.
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>>147082908
It's another post by me
She's some cosplayer but I lost the link sorry
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>>147082560
The fucking chink items are all lower case AND named after the mesh.

doa1
doa2
doa3
doa4
doa5
dadoa1
dadoa2
zadoa
zadoab
liu
liu2
gui
gui

>>147082908
www facebook com/otogifc/

>It keeps happening!
>I have no regrets.
Then you are truly lost.
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>>147082997
fuck that, denmark is overdue for some welsh enrichment
we already own 2/3rds of scandinavia
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People really should play this mod, it's unbalanced, but it's fun.
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>>147083289
What is it
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>>147083085
I just fucking realized that my ctrl-h was way too aggressive
now I fucked up a bunch of mesh names, because the meshes are case-sensitive
fucking awful.
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>>147083426
Looks like CoMM, which is MP only until tomorrow
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hey guise any ne-

lmao
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>>147083426
Chronicles of Might and Magic, version 0.6 is coming out tomorrow.
The current version is 0.41
>>147083496
There is a SP, but it's pretty barebones
Loving the titans and gold golems in mountain bandit parties
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>>147083467
ctrl-h?
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>>147083615
10 da-
we can't even do that anymore
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>>147083642
Lets you find words and replace them with other words.
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>>147083712
Oh. I've just always pressed ctrl+f and then clicked Replace. Never bothered to learn it's shortcut.
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>Warwolf
>main quest tells me to find a hidden place, then go back to the city's academy
>holy war breaks out between said city
>when it finally ends, the academy is gone

wew
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>>147076479
they drew the guys first and then rekt them afterwards
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I never did get an answer.

So if a katana-length straight sword is a Chokutō what is one that is Odachi-length called?

Some kind weeb help me out on this.
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>>147084349
An Odachi-length Chokutō
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>>147084349
A Zhanmadao, it says it right there although it's honestly not long enough to qualify as a Zanbato
>>
Thinkin of trying TLD, is it good?
>>
Picked up this game yesterday.
It's pretty fun even though I don't know how to politics yet.
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>>147085398
You don't.
You reave.
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>>147085663
>>147084754
The images I'm seeing of Zanbatō don't have straight blades though.

Maybe I could just call it a Ochokutō? O-chokutō? Nochokutō sounds best I think...
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>>147084889
Its pretty different from native. But a pretty good experience in the end. Just be prepared for some grind and frustrating campaign AI.
One of the most complete and diverse, assets and features wise mod
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>>147085398
Politics is 90% having the biggest stick.
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>>147085761
Ochokuto makes more sense.
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>>147085586
>>147085781
Is it possible to do a run where I take over castles and countries without engaging in any battles?
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>>147068501
I always order my cav to follow me. Flank with them after infantry engages or intercept their cav.
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>>147085928
You can get lords to join you and take their territory with them. But you'll need to show your stick is much much larger than their current lieges first. Even then some of them still might refuse.

So no. Not possible.
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>>147085902
Well fine then!


What would this be called? I'm thinking Hikari-chokutō?
The Sengoku Jedi used this right?
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>>147085928
Not really, no.
Subterfuge/deception/intrigue of basically any kind isn't really a thing. The game is "smashing 'armies' into other 'armies.'" with honestly kind of janky/flimsy stuff supporting it.

I'd like to make a bunch of intrigue stuff, but at the very least I'm waiting until Bannerlord, and even then It's 99% likely I don't do shit, since that's a ton of work.
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>>147085761
Oochokutou or Daichokutou.

>>147086189
Please don't add that it looks stupid as hell
Either way Hikari-no-Ken (Sword of Light) maybe.
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>>147084889
there aren't many other mods that let you play as a shitty little orc
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>>147078618
Try checking her str stat and the armor's str req.
Armor on pretenders or lords can bug out if they don't have enough str and won't spawn at all.
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>>147086189
I'm gonna be straight with you. I don't like the idea.
But hey its your mod. If you make it like REALLY secret I guess it could be okay (some kind of hidden chest in a haystack in a town or something)
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>>147086343
>>147086678
I'm not actually going to add it relax. I was just surprised to find it at all in a mod set in feudal japan.

Daichokutou sounds good too

>>147086430
The pretenders all have 20 STR so it isn't that. It doesn't really matter though since setting her armor to civilian fixed it.
>>
Lmao, just started watching Vikings because of playing VC, and the MC is a cuck
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>>147086804
Just be glad it wasn't about his son Ivar "the Boneless". The cuck and penis jokes would never end.
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What is there difference between a Tetsubo and a Konsaibo?
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>>147086995
Te- in Tetsubo means iron
>>
Also why can't chinks get weapon length right?! OpenBrf has a fucking ruler built in for that very reason. Do chinks not use OpenBrf?

I've yet to find a single chink item with the weapon length anywhere near what the mesh is.

>>147087104
Thanks.
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>>147086995
Looks like a kanabou to me and I think there's no difference, the kanji of Kanabou is "metal club" and the kanji of "tetsubou" is "Iron Club".

>>147087104
No, the "Tetsu" in Tetsubou in general just means Iron. It literally means Iron Club.
>>
Is there a reason Gekokujo calls them Konsaibo when Wikipedia calls them Kanabō?

I'm not to hip on the nip.
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>>147087384
>No, the "Tetsu" in Tetsubou in general just means Iron
interesting. I knew Tekken meant iron fist so deducted from there
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>tfw no historical late medieval mod
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>>147087829
There's 1429, never played it so don't know if its good
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>>147087829
I like that picture, mind if I save it?
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king otto reporting in

almost defeated the rhodoks and nords
rhodoks - 1 town and castle
nords - 2 towns 2 castles

still conquering 75% of calradia
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>>147087701
Japanese often have multiple readings for Kanji and shortened readings for when they're in a phrase so yeah.
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>>147087937
You can even print it my fellow anon
>>147087887
I don't like 100 years war desu, besides is this mod finnaly fully translated?
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I was thinking something simple like "Yokai Yari" for the left one.

What about the one on the right though? Not really sure what it is even supposed to be but seems like something a Yokai might use.
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>>147088278
the one on the left doesn't look like a weapon so much as one of those mancatchers
i don't know what the fuck the one on the right is supposed to be, doesn't look real
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>>147088278
I'm pretty sure the thing on the left has a real name. Can't remember it now though...
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>>147088078
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I wanted to figure out a way to trim the China troop tree down but...eh I wasn't sure what to remove, so didn't do much. Decided to flip Jibing into the end (modifying stats as appropriate) because they look cooler than Qianweibing (mostly, they have a helmet - which I could have just added but whatever) and are less "has 3 different weapon sets", so seem like they'd be more of a final-tier. Made it so the archer tree can actually go into Shuibing, and added a weaker-tier shuibing (that has a tier-skip, maybe? Not sure how the game calcs tiers) Let the Jianbing upgrade into a Shuibing vet to keep with what it was.

I was then distracted by Jap troops and noticed they have a bunch more other units available, so shoved em into their relatively sparse tree. Then I decided that if I was happy with the Jap tree, the Chinese tree should be fine, so pic related is what I ended up with, more or less.

Now I'm idly renaming items such that they are capitalized, but some of this shit is just named eg 'swj' (for its id, mesh, singular, and plural), which means fuckin nothing to me. Some type of body armor? Wow.
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>>147088078
he even looks like Alberto Barbosa
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>>147088549
> ninja
>katana samurai
No, samurai should be horse archers only they weren't used katanas
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>>147088408
That might be why the left ones tips look so round, not like actual blades.

The one on the right I'm not sure. Kappa Choppa sounds kinda silly.
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>>147088278
It's "Youkai"

>>147088408
>>147088447
Left is Satsumata, it's a police weapon though.
Right one doesn't look real at all.

>>147088549
>Manbing
"Minbing"
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>>147089076
I'll give the Sengoku Rance wikipedia a check and see what they are called and use that.

So blunt or pierce damage. Maybe I just wont use either. That ould be easiest for me.
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>>147088994
This isn't a 100% realism mod (so ninja aren't too far left-field), and I don't believe samurai were just horse archers 100% of the time, forever.

Although I just now remembered the Bandit's special ability is to recruit ninja & Hashashin, so I probably have to remove them from the normal tree regardless.

>>147089076
Whoops.
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>>147089076
>>147089053
the one on the right looks like one of those aztec weapons, where the whole thing was wood and had obsidian spikes or edges
but that was because you couldn't make the whole thing out of obsidian, so that thing on the right is pointless
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>>147085398

You should start with Viking Conquest story mode. It doles out the mechanics as you need them.
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>vikings are pillaging, slaughtering people
>one of them (the earls man) tries to rape one of the random saxon women
>mc;s wife le epic feminism shield maiden gets mega butthurt and kills the guy for it
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>>147090070
watch The Last Kingdom, it's just as anachronistic at times but it's not as shitty
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It makes the most sense for this to function like a 2h blunt weapon right? even though it is a polearm

IE: Overhead, Left, Right Swings and Downward Thrust instead of Upstab.
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>>147090070
>King of Northumbria sends men to intercept vikings
>They wait for the vikings to form a shieldwall before letting loose an arrow volley
>fire only one volley
>then just charge everyone in
>vikings randomly yell shieldwall mid combat
>dont actually form a shieldwall
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>>147090070
>Writers pretending that female warriors (if they existed) wouldn't cheer on the rape
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>>147090070

>>147090179

This. Vikings was created to appeal to a mass market like everything on the History channel and despite being on that channel takes monumental liberties with its source material.

The Last Kingdom and by extension the Saxon Tales), while fictional, actually bother to ground themselves in the reality of the time period.
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>>147090070
>vikings
>not allowing rape
>>147090343
Sounds like shit. What are you talking about?
>>147090387
PIC RELATED
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>>147090070
Wouldn't the girl actually be happy about how mega alpha her man was or some shit?
I mean Vikings were literally bandits on boats albeit they had a nice culture once you got home.
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Saruman is so fluorescent
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>>147090526
>Sounds like shit. What are you talking about?
>>147072147
Remember it's epic
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>>147090713
If only I could be as incandescent.
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>>147090526
The Vikings tv show, vikings were outnumbered about 3 to 1 and only lost like, 2 guys in the fight

>>147090601
In reality she wouldn't care/would be hyped for christian women getting btfo


And for some reason the MC wants his slave to fuck his wife
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>>147090863
What
Why
What the fuck Ragnar was a alpha as fuck dude in real life not a literal cuck
Does Ragnar have concubines and shit too?
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>No TV series about Charlemagne
>No TV series about him hurting "innocent" pagans and Muslims
>No TV series that corrupts his history

Feels good.

>>147090863
>Ragnar wants his slave to fuck his wife

Who would have thought he was such a cuck.
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>>147091003
At the moment he just has his wife

I thought he might've done it to taunt the priest for being celibate, but it was before he even knew they were, so he clearly wanted some saxon dick in his wife
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>all the Nodachi in Geko
>use the same mesh
>just have different textures

Fuck me I never noticed that before.
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>>147091571
that's how they did all the weapons and armor in geko
there's 10 of each sword weapon, they just have different textures
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Can anybody confirm this:
I heard that by waiting to upgrade troops, the ready troops help level up the not-yet-ready ones faster. Is this true?
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>>147091110
Jesus what the fucking hell
Ragnar should have all sorts of slavegirls on his dick, he was literally a legendary guy made to be hyper-manly.
That being said I guess his legendary shieldmaiden waifu gets to be good at fighting seeing as the legends let her literally fucking fly like Brynhildr the Valk.
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>>147091873
Well thank god I'm adding more in for the people who are interested in the nip stuff.
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>>147091912
It's a weird bug yeah, because the 'ready to upgrade' troops still count as below your level for training purposes and XP distribution but the ones that are ready don't get the xp they don't need, so if 80% of a stack is ready to upgrade the remaining 20% upgrade 400% faster than usual
This doesn't apply if you're actually higher level than all of them though afaik
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How many ingame days old is your best character /mbg/?
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Accurate?
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>>147092803
I don't recognize the middle book.
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>>147092803
>western warband cover has browngirl on a horse
>japanese warband cover has white man on a horse

kek
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How long does a sword have to be to NOT be a bastard weapon and purely 2H?
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>>147092908

Sharpe's Eagle, part of the Sharpe series covering the British side of the Napoleonic Wars.
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>>147092962
>that
>a dadao
Fuck that shit.
That being said a dadao is supposed to be purely twohanded.
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>>147092962
it depends on the style of sword
i'm pretty sure most japanese swords were designed to be bastard swords due to them not using shields
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>all these fucking TLD patches

w-what do I use
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>>147093230
the latest one
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>>147093028
Hey I didn't name them some chink did. I'm calling it a Chokutō.

>>147093164
I'll make it a bastard since it is only 3 inched longer than a katana and those are bastards.
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In warband, what happens if I challenge a woman's suitor to a duel?
I know it hurts my relation with her, is there any particular good side aside from removing competition?
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>>147093426
It gives you a pretty big boost in relation with the lady if you win the duel.

It probably also ruins relations with the guy but I don't remember.
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>Finally get 600 renown in VC
>Decide to see what special equipment the named blacksmiths carry
>It's all shit

What a waste of my time.
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>>147093969
I felt the same way, I spent ages going town to town getting every bard to sing for me, won every fucking tourny around, only to find all the special weapons are worse than other shit you can get, same with the armor, also they are way more expensive than the better items
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>>147093969
>It's all shit
it's actually very fashionable
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>>147094121
Well, that bear gear looks okay. Would probably be better if it was scale instead of chain.

Rest of the items are shit.
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>get awarded Maras Castle in PooP
>first week it nets me 9000 denar
>the next week only 1000

what the fug

also is the troop quality in a castle relevant if the player isn't there defending it?

I've heard it isn't, but that seems like some bullshit.
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>>147093230
From their website.
>Get TLD.
>get warband patch/port for TLD
>get bot patch or some shit like that.
easy.
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>>147094624
All the mods do that, It's akin to receiving money from capturing the castle
And troop quality isn't relevant to whether or not enemies will decide to siege your castle, so the AI will invade a castle with 100 top tier knights before a castle with 400 peasants.
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Do I need the couched lance and warg fix in the pastebin for TLD, or do these patches fix it?
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News about CoMM lads
>All scripts are done but we are still polishing maps and troops balance. So there is long night ahead of us. You should expect download link at about 13-15 PM UTC. But I cannot guarantee that uploading will go smoothly and that we will meet this deadline.
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>scene in Vikings where they're discussing the norse gods to the christian priest
>talks about a few of them and valhalla and such, how earth was made
>SO HOW DO YOU THINK IT HAPPENED PRIEST
>"ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...uhhhhhhhhhhhhh..."
This whole thing is just an anti-christian wank fest
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>>147080683
>>147081052
>ywn conquer the mexican altepetls with your conquistador bros and get a nice qt native mesoamerican waifu

why even live?

>>147081939
Tlaxcallan woman that helped Hernan Cortez fuck the aztec's shit up.
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>>147081191
Mexicans are fucking stupid. She wasn't even Aztec.
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>>147096341
To get a pure steppe waifu, of course. Which will never happen.

You're right. Why even live?

>>147096324
>This whole thing is just an anti-christian wank fest
>Show about le epic vikings is an anti-christian wank fest

Shocking.
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>>147096702
I'm fine with vikings showing up and memeing on defenseless monks as this actually happened, but we got a devout well learned monk and when asked for one of the most basic things a monk should know, he's speechless, its silly
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>>147096324
>the vikings didn't like God
Well shied color me impressed I dinna know that.
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>>147096874
But they did like Gods
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>>147096846
He's scared shitless, it's not that he doesn't know. He also may not be a preacher, and I mean seriously when three fuckmassive dudes ask you, not all that politely, how your religion differs from their own, and when both your religion and their culture has a bloody history of killing anyone who disagrees, unless he like being a martyr I don't blame him for not talking.
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>>147096874
I dont care they hate God, I care that this fucking monk didn't know how to answer basic fucking questions about his faith

Its like going up to an Imam and him not knowing who Muhammad was
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>>147096846
I was referring to what you're referring to. The "monk doesn't know creation myth for his religion". A monk not knowing some things about his religion could be okay, considering some monks were shitters that just wanted the gold and land, but yeah, even a rich brat that was forced into a monastery should know "6 days of creation, one day of rest".
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>>147097012
He's been with them for months and is considered to be practically part of the MC's family, he's well beyond the point of being a typical scared christian
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>>147096967
>

>>147097017
>>147097082
It's like if a suicide bomber slated to blow himself up today asked you who the big prophet was, I mean even if you're christian unless you're the really fucking devout type you'll probably just say Mohammad or something so he's less likely to explode on you.

>>147097210
Maybe he's having doubts in his faith then.
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>>147097012
>implying Christians were cowards

If there's two things Early Middle Ages Christian priests loved, it's being martyr'd and fucking up Germanic Pagans.
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>>147097313

>Maybe he's having doubts in his faith then.

He was literally preaching scripture moments before
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>>147097346
You don't HEAR about the cowards because they never amounted to anything, it's like saying "oh look Gates dropped out of uni and became a billionaire that means dropping out of uni means you're likely to become a billionaire", not most of them starved to death.
Like, yes there were plenty of martyrs and stuff, but then again there were plenty of priests who literally were in it for the money, absenteeism and shit were rampant, they fucked nuns aka noble whores, etc.

>>147097486
then I have no idea, if he's preaching the script he can just quote Genesis
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anyone ever watch that foreign film about the christian scandinavians who go to the new world and all get killed by natives?

I remember one of the pagan scandinavians was telling another pagan about them and he said "they eat their god"

I never really thought about it that way before
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Time to be an Urukhai and fuck shit up
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>>147098097
valhalla rising? had mads mikkelsen in it
thought it was pretty shit
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>>147098369
it was a shit movie but i dont think that was it, though maybe it had its title changed for regional releases or something. It was pretty low budget i think, i watched it on netflix. That one line and the way it was delivered stuck with me though.
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>>147098859
i'm pretty sure that was it
mads is referred to as "one eye"
it felt pretty pretentious
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>ragnar kills earl in 1v1 combat
>earls wife imemdiately goes over and kills the earl that married her daughter, the cousin to the king of sweden

lmao
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>suddenly everyone in /mbg/ is a scandinavian history expert

What happened?
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>>147099768
sweden
yes
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>>147099768
>people in /mbg/ aren't history experts
Please, if none of us were autistic and interested in history, we wouldn't be discussing a game that came out more than half a decade ago and outside of gameplay is absolute shit.
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>>147099768
>going to /mbg/, /twg/, or one of the many similar generals and expecting to not find history experts

Where do you think you are?
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>>147096324
>This whole thing is just an anti-christian wank fest
What did you expect ? Serious question.
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>>147100032
>and outside of gameplay is absolute shit.
what
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>>147100337
right
this game has awful gameplay, I dunno the fuck he's even talkin about
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>>147100337
The graphics are shit, the textures are old, the UI is terrible.
The only good parts are the soundtrack and the fact that the lore is DEEP.
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>>147100558
>the soundtrack
there's like 3-4 good tracks in the whole game
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>>147100558
>the graphics are shit
>the textures are old

But senpai, those are same things..
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>>147100558
>the UI is terrible.
what are you on about the UI is good
the formations interface could do with some work
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>>147100558
Here we go..
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>>147100726
A ton of the screens take up way too much space (eg any dialogue screen, like what the fuck why is everything so huge with all this blankspace) and provide shit for info, while also demanding you click through several menus.

It's overall ok IMO, but they've shown improvements already in Butterlord.

Not that other guy
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>>147100687
Yeah, but at least there are good parts in the soundtrack, some games don't even have that.
>>147100713
The graphics in the game were shit even by the standards of the time it was made.
>>147100726
>have to go into camp menu to do shit every time
>have to actually talk to the companions to level them up or see their equipment
There are loads of things to be improved
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>>147100983
>some games don't even have that.
What a moronic thing to say. Just because some games are even shittier in one department doesn't make the former any less shittier. Only if you directly compare e.g WFAS is disliked by a lot of people, but isn't as ugly if you put it next to VC.
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>>147100937
>A ton of the screens take up way too much space (eg any dialogue screen, like what the fuck why is everything so huge with all this blankspace)
i think it was initially developed for much smaller resolution screens
>and provide shit for info
that's not really a UI issue and more of maybe a writing issue
M&B does a bad job of explaining a bunch of shit that isn't covered at all, like stopping your horse or a lot of map travel buttons
not as bad as gothic though
>>have to go into camp menu to do shit every time
>>have to actually talk to the companions to level them up or see their equipment
to be fair this shit is instantaneous to do
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>>147098315
Everything went alright with the patches ?
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>>147098097
There are very fucking few religions where the main purpose of the god is for you to say sorry to and who sent his kid (actually just him) to die for you for no real reason it seems than to make a spectacle, since theologically the Father and the Son are one and the same and being almighty should have no issue with removing the OS even if the Son didn't take on the mantle of a human.
isn't that just Vinland Saga
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>>147101124
Just the fact that some of the songs are memorable is a good thing, though I agree that the soundtrack overall is not good.
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what the fuck is upstab? does floris have it?
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>>147096324
Wow
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>>147101438
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>>147101518
whats the big deal with it? just an alternate animation?
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>>147101336
>(actually just him)
careful there
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>>147101619
it means you can stab in two directions with a spear rather than one
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Need more advice from you history experts and/or TES LORE experts.

This Akiviri sword has a length of 97. To long to be a Katana but not long enough(?) to be an nOdachi.

So I was thinking due to it's odd length and not looking quite like the rest of the weapons. Making it a Chinese Wodao and giving it to the pirates like the rest of the chink wodaos.
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>>147101621
>arianus says "maybe Jesus is younger than God since he's the son and all?"
>n-no they're one and the same, distinct but the same, inseparable yet separate nevermind the logical inconsistency
You can't say they're the same, you can't say they're not. It's literally A = B && A != B, under no conditions is this shit true.
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So I'm going through Warwolf items, renaming items (item_kind1.txt) to not be lowercase trash, and a lot of these items have non-descriptive IDs, base names, and mesh IDs.

Is there any way I can see what the item looks like before I rename it? I figure seeing the mesh would help me there, but I have no idea how to see the meshes it is apparently using. Alternatively, a reliable way to spawn an item into m inventory ingame would be good. As it is, I have no idea what most of this shit even is.
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>>147101836
The entire sword or the blade? Wodao 105-112 cm long in general but only about 80cm long for the blade.
>call a sword Chinese Wodao
>Wodao literally means "Sword of the Wo people" where "Wo people" refers to nips (lit. dwarves so Wokou means dwarf pirates aka nip pirates)
>literally calling a sword Chinese Japanese Sword
O-okay
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>>147101836
Why add it at all? But Akaviri were supposed to be Nips, not chinks. So even though it's not quite nip enough, it's still closer and better than giving it to the dirty Chinese
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>>147101619
>can spear in two directions
>can stab over your men
>can hit riders more easily
>can make up for your reach being too long in cqc
>looks better than fucking overhand swinging your spear around
Whats not to like
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>>147101852
Only if you assume Jesus has one nature, and a divine one. Other possibilities : One nature (man) (its a heresy), two natures (man/god), one nature (sui generis nature), one nature (man or god depending on the moments)
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>>147101836
>To long to be a Katana
Katana (and tachi before them) greatly varied in sizes and shapes desu.
You can also call it an O-Katana but thats stepping into the autist part of japanese naming conventions.
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>>147101336
Remember everything was spoken into existence, so its vibrations, all of it. You, me, rocks. Vibrations. Forgiveness may require sacrifice to keep the entire universe from becoming some discordant mess of frequencies. Actions and ideas and things and everything within what is real is all just a vibration. This is why the bible equates thinking a thing into doing it, its because while we percieve them as different sorts of things, ultimatley they are all the same. Like how in a book words on paper can be a description or a quote, those are different things, but ultimately they are both just words on paper when you ascend up out of the books reality and onto the paper and ink its written in.

Therefore words and actions and thoughts may all be required for forgiveness. For example, you must believe what you did was wrong to be forgiven for it, confession means agreeing not just admitting. It requires a feeling to work. In the same way if you go to /x/ and ask them how to summon a succubus or something the guides require a state of mind as well as physical ritual.

The point is, that sacrifice can be a required part of the harmonized set of vibrations which translate into sin forgiveness. Not just some arbitrary requirement god thinking and perceiving in mundane ways down in the "book-reality" of our universe has for no reason.

In fact when you think of it reality is a self writing book because god gave the fictional characters within it free will. Perhaps then sacrifice is the ink its written in, and we can write it in god-ink now. God Ink.
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>>147102148
The Blade itself is only 85cm give or take. PIC RELATED.

>call a sword Chinese Wodao
That is the Gekokujo guy not me. Should I change them?

>Chinese_Changdao
Changdao?
>Chinese_Liuyedao
Liuyedao?
>Chinese_Wodao
Wodao?

>>147102156
>Why add it at all?
Why not?

>>147102398
All the Katana in Geko only have a length of 78cm, so the actual blade itself would be short than that.
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>>147102675
>Why not?

Because then we'd need the Akaviri/Blades armor to match
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>>147102675
>All the Katana in Geko only have a length of 78cm
Thats just because they are color swaps. The tachi are a bit longer, like expected. But again a 97cm katana wouldn't be that much out of the ordinary
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>>147102156
>dirty Chinese
>in an age where the Japanese were almost strictly inferior
Alright.

>>147102204
>solely divine = heresy
>one nature (man) = heresy
>two natures that can be clearly distinguished = Nestorianism aka heresy
>two natures that cannot be distinguished = how do you know he has two natures then
>two natures that are seperate but one = that literally doesn't make sense
>one nature (fused / either or) = monophysite non-chalcedonian heresy
The biggest reason why Christianity has so many damn heresies and shit is because it doesn't actually fucking make any sense, and I hate to pull this card but I honestly think at times it tries to pull 2deep4u to skirt around the fact it doesn't have a real explanation for it that uses an entirely incompatible worldsystem.

>>147102452
No, that's not how omnipotence works. The only way omnipotence, even the limited version of it, can have any limit is if another being of equal stature shows up and tries to impose a limit and even then you have the problem of priority. It literally can change the entire system to suit its needs or just change the source code to retcon properties and force it to work with the savegame that is history. That's what we call omnipotence.

>>147102675
That's a wodao it fits the description.
>Changdao
Longsword (not really, Dao are by definition single-edged)
>Liuyedao
Willow-Leaf's Blade (single edged)
>Wodao
Japanese blade (single edged)
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>slave girl chooses to die with her master
>before being sent to die has to fuck every man in this big ass house
>before every one fucks her they have to say "I am doing this out of love for your master"

Vikings are so kek tier
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Then again these three have a length of 100 the one on the right is actually 101 so I will just go with Katana.

BUT all the NoDachi in Geko only have a length of 109 so... I don't fucking know.

>>147102810
No I wouldn't.

>>147102864
Should I call these Tachi then?

FUCK I don't even care about this nip shit! GekoNewer if for killing nips!
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>>147103130
>slave girl chooses to die with her master
B-but that's so romantic
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>>147103030
>>dirty Chinese
>>in an age where the Japanese were almost strictly inferior
>Alright.

Chinaboo please, my impotent internet racism gives 0 shits about what Nese was better when
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>>147103176
>GekoNewer if for killing nips
Add a Portugese faction so I can finally kill your white ass with Miko-chan already you westaboo

>>147103261
Can you be a Chinaboo if you're legit Chinese?
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>>147103184
>B-but that's so romantic
>Has to fuck everyone else first

Master was cucked.
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>>147103372
That's what I meant, Vikings are fucking dicks, it was so romantic
THAT'S something ebil feminist should've flipped shit over.
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>>147103176
>GekoNewer if for killing nips
but it adds more Japanese items than anythingq
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>>147103474
Not compared to Gekokujou proper or Gekonew, most of that stuff is leftovers.
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>that feel when you finally get strong enough armor to park yourself right in the middle of the enemy and spam left click until they're all dead
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>>147103030
>That's a wodao it fits the description
So I should make it a "Chinese Wodao" and give it to the pirates then?

>Longsword
>Willow-Leaf's Blade
>Japanese Blade
Those names suck I'd rather just leave them the native Gekokujo "Chinese_NAME"
Are you being literal? I couldn't give a fuck what they are in real life I need to know what to name them in a video game.

>>147103297
I can't without source code.

>>147103474
After this patch that may be true but not as it currently is.
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>>147096103
TEN DAYS
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>>147103790
Oh yeah I'm just being literal, I'm not suggesting actual replacements name it whatever the fuck you want.
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>>147103030
>It literally can change the entire system to suit its needs or just change the source code to retcon properties and force it to work with the savegame that is history

If you compare god to a game designer then, a game designer can remake their entire game if they want to. But how many game designers go through all that hassle when they arent absolutely forced to?

You are also trying to define an aspect of god when you give omnipotence a definite meaning, you cant define something that exists beyond the material with material measures.

Also you have no way of knowing everything hasn't been retconned numerous times as you are trapped within the system.

Any action that god takes on the world will take the form of a vibration on the world, because what the world is is the sum of gods actions on his creation. Therefore anything god does will appear to happen through mundane means, even if those means are specifically created and 'injected' within the system by god for that specific purpose, it will be as if that was always a normal and natural thing within the universe and will not appear odd or supernatural at all.
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>these uruk-hai models for TLD

These are bad
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>>147104232
True, except the Bible characterizes God, and if we take it to be definitive (because if it isn't then there's no point to anything as an actual omnipotent being would treat us like a collection of their Skyrim characters or something) then the world has never been retconned besides the Flood and he was specifically unable to do something (remove Original Sin) without doing something else first - contradictory to omnipotence. Game designers enjoy only limited omnipotence within their system from without (for example they need time in their own system to create the game and it's a hassle) and perfect within it, but God is said to enjoy perfect omnipotence within ALL systems including his own and no others exist above him. This being the case, he should be perfectly able of allowing the sinful to enter Heaven, cleansing their sins, guiding them to not sin, stopping Lucifer from doing shit, and getting rid of OS without taking on a human nature. He couldn't.
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>>147103030
The biggest problem is that the credo of Nicea-Constantinopolis doesn't adress this shit. Only qualifying the Christ as "very God of very God" wich doesn't mean much. He's part of the trinity, and thus God, that much isn't debatable, but clearly had human physical presence and needs.
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>>147103941
Okay mister literal.

These are the names of the swords already in Gako native except each one has "Chinese" in front of it.

Should I drop it from "Chinese ____" to just "____"?
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>>147104693
Imo yes, I think it's immediately obvious to even non-weebs / chinks that these are Chinese and if it isn't well they probably don't care enough to care which they use.
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>>147104693
new guy here, not bothering to read whatever debate is here:
Yes. It's already implied to be chinese cause the name is in chinese. No need to be redundant.
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>>147104693
>Should I drop it from "Chinese ____" to just "____"?
I say yes.
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>>147104838
>>147104887
>>147105020
Well then I'll get rid of the "Chinese".

I'm surprised, considering what a weeb the Gekokujo dev must be, they were even named that way in the first place.
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>>147105160
I'm pretty sure he dropped the assets from the osp they came from and called it a day
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>>147105352
Lazy motherfucker cant even steal assets right.

yes I know what OSP means
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>>147104665
Well I also have the issue of, given that both natures existed within Jesus, which was dominant. Now I know that the official line is that neither is dominant, both are balanced. Here's the issue: he doesn't lose the human nature after his human side is killed.
If the Human trumps the Divine, then he should be killed and die then rise through his divine bit basically intervening, but he keeps his human side because he is essentially a human with divinity
If the Divine trumps the human, then he shouldn't die unless he wants to and can keep the human side after ascendance because he is essentially divine (and therefore does what the fuck he wants to)
If the Human and Divine are EQUAL though, then the death of the Human shouldn't let the human half STAY since the divine is not dominant and he is not essentially human, he'd become purely divine, and that's not the damn case.
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>guy gets cucked in Vikings
>goes to MC's wife to complain that she has betrayed him by cucking him
>she says "clearly it was the gods that came to fuck her, how dare you accuse your wife of cucking you, you evil misogynistic pig ;^)"


Why are vikings such cucks?
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>>147105552
why are you still watching
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>>147105552
At risk of sounds like "one of them" ...

Men aren't allowed to be portrayed as Men anymore in the media.
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>>147105617
Already almost done with the season, might as well finish it
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>>147105687
>Men aren't allowed to be portrayed as Men anymore in the media.
>forgetting 2cool4school shit like Expendables exists
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swadian poster here. instead of running away with my money and troops from the nords sieging my last stronghold of dhirim, i chose to stay and fight for righteousness.

they pushed inside the city 2 times so far. i runned away from the walls and fought through the city's streets, only to meet up with my reinforcements and push them back to the walls.
my knights are fighting valiantly, but i think this is the end.
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>>147105692
Also its the 8th century, and all these saxon men have fucking coat of plates armor
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>>147105552
>>147105617
>>147105687
>>147105692
I'll be honest, this shit was actually pretty common back then, it's the entire reason Incubi became a thing
>honest darling, I didn't sleep with that dashing young traveler with the delicious musc - um, not that traveler from the tavern last week, no it was lucifer himself, I've already gone to confessional but please forgive me it was the devil himself I couldn't resist :^))))))))))
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>>147104647
>This being the case, he should be perfectly able of allowing the sinful to enter Heaven.

The whole commonly depicted heavy/hell(and purgatory, lel) dynamic comes from the western church though. In orthodoxy everyone does go to the same place, its just paradise for those who love god, and eternal shame for those who hate him (fire is figurative for an all consuming shame). Basically its like when youve disappointed your parent, but infinity strong. Its self punishment.

Also you are looking at things from a linear perspective. Time is just a property of our universe. God does not exist within time where he does one thing then makes a decision and changes his mind or sees something and then changes. God seems to act linearly as we encounter parts of his will linearly as we are trapped within linear creation.

So its not like god changes his mind in the way you or I might, since he is beyond linear existence.
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>>147105818
welp, this happened faster than i thought. only me and 4 guys left, no reinforcements coming.
just when did 200 swdians die so fast?

what i shame. i unironically thought that i could win this with just another 2 waves of reinforcements.
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>>147105898
>Basically its like when youve disappointed your parent, but infinity strong. Its self punishment
>all of eternity being "sent to your room"
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>>147105898
>Also you are looking at things from a linear perspective. Time is just a property of our universe. God does not exist within time where he does one thing then makes a decision and changes his mind or sees something and then changes. God seems to act linearly as we encounter parts of his will linearly as we are trapped within linear creation.
>So its not like god changes his mind in the way you or I might, since he is beyond linear existence.
Mate I run a campaign where I have to design an entire class of antagonists to be literally beyond omnipotence so believe me, I've considered this. That doesn't mean His choices make any sense if we pretend the Bible is definitive on Him and his goals.

>same place different feelings
Oh is that the actual orthodox position? It's actually one of the things I've considered, where hell is just self-inflicted separation from god and you can literally at any point go back and say "sorry man" and He'll be fine with it. Guess I've been reading too much modern fanfiction.

>>147106123
Sounds more like an eternity of awkward silence and being embarrassed after shouting at your mom and making her cry over stupid shit.
Wow fuck yeah no that sounds like shit.
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>>147106023
did i... lose?

kudos to count plais for showing up to help me with just his 20 last troops while all other lords stayed on their castles. i actually saw him fighting in the streets with me before having his skull crushed by an axe.

king harlaus started a feast 2 days later. i'm still gonna fight for this old fool though.
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>>147106123
Not him but its more like your soul by design wants the love of god but during your life you "turned" your soul in such a way that you refuse His love.
Its basically your spirit being torn in two, wich is supposed to cause great sadness and pain.
You're also excluded from the others who accept his love.
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>>147106397
>Its basically your spirit being torn in two, wich is supposed to cause great sadness and pain.
So Voldemort?
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>>147106542
I don't remember the books, sorry.
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Should I manage my castles garrison myself and dump lances in it or just leave it to the peasants or whatever in 1257?

It's taking forever and I'm assuming the shitter bands of like 50 guys trying to siege it are fucking with the timer on it.
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>>147106631
He's basically a Lucifer stand in, bullshit hubris, epic depression and AGODIAM fits and has a split-up soul.
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>>147106214
>is that the actual orthodox position?
Yes, as a byzaboo i took care to learn all i could about the byzantine lifestyle :^)

here is official word from the main american orthodox church
https://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/spirituality/the-kingdom-of-heaven/heaven-and-hell
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>>147106391
leaded a pathetic counterattack towards dhirim with exhausted and low level troops. count harignoth who was the strongest member of the expedition with 100 elite troops left us during the siege. a nord host arrived from the north to relieve the siege. with 200 troops vs our 150. we won our first battle with our devastating cavalry charge, but our losses forced me to dissengage during the second battle.

i quited from the rank of the marshal out of shame. i will now raise another modern well-trained army before doing anything again, lest i fail my nation again.
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>>147107381
commendable, most people would just savescum
one of the hardest factions to fight for too due to the position
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>>147105809
But the whole point of Expendables is that they are heroes of the past
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>>147107645
>tfw once I started savescumming I couldn't go back

I try so hard to play right but the taste of defeat is too much
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>King of Northumbria has Ragnar and his leadership all in his hold, easily able to be killed
>He doesn't kill them because they have his brother
>Instead says he'll pay their ransom
>jk lol, I'll just fight in you in the field by charging your camp

This is so fucking stupid
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How many denars would you say is rich? I have 20000+ from raiding villages for the past 6 hours.
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>>147107648
I've never seen it but isn't it supposed to almost be a parody? At least when I saw commercials for it it didn't seem to be a "serious" film. If you understand what I'm trying to say.
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>>147107645
I find you can counteract the savescum reflex by actually playing with out realistic save mod enabled.

To me alt-f4 is almost like a reflex. Something bad happens and its not like "oh, im going to savescum", its like i ragequit, and then by starting the game up again, its automatically savescuming.

But with out all those frequent autosaves, i feel more willing to accept my fate.

The only time something bad happens to me in this game is when its some random bullshit, its not like anything i prepare for ever fails, so save/reload on purpose doesnt really benifit me.
The only thing i ever used to do that with was tournament winning but honestly i dont tournament anymore ever since its really kind of a waste of time. You can get renown and money much easier other ways.
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>>147107879
that entirely depends on the mod
20k is a good amount in native but isn't shit in other mods like 1257
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>>147107963
Is there a way to turn autosaves one AND have "Allow me to quit without saving" at the same time? I no longer use realistic after loosing a save to corruption but i miss the autosave feature.
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>native
>a book costs as much as a velvet factory
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>>147108113
well you can use quicksaving which is bound to a key
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>>147107880
It's basically an 80s action movie made recently with 80s action movie actors.
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>>147107963
I played on realistic mode until my day 700+ save was corrupted and I couldn't even retrieve it from the backup they save.

I mean, it was playable, but literally every character was naked and had the same exact model (retarded face and blonde bowl-cut hair). I just couldn't handle it.
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just finished Seven Samurai lads

gekokujo or gekonew?
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>>147108115
In the 13th century the Corpus Iuris Civils could cost the price of a house.
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>>147108285
I don't think there's a 3.1b version of Gekonew, so you're stuck with either vanilla Gekokujo or Gekomemer
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>>147108285
Gekonewer, obviously
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>>147108378
>Gekomemer
What exactly is is about my mod that would make you call it that?
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>>147108559
Skeletons, lolis, and female kenshin I assume
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>>147108559
it adds a bunch of stupid shit for spic roleplayers, even though swedish mayo is an infinitely better asian extermination sim. the only good thing about newer is cute Uesugi and the skeleton race. also I don't know why you want to add all that ugly chinese shit.
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>>147108765
>Chinese shit
>"ugly"
It actually works unlike nipshit for your information.
Also he didn't add that, he's just renaming it.

>>147108559
It adds a bunch of overpowered westaboo stuff.
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>>147108957
>Also he didn't add that, he's just renaming it.
he's adding a bunch of crappy assets from life50
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>>147109038
"Whatever". It's Chinese and it makes sense that it's in Japan afaigas. Westaboo shit I don't want just because he's so obviously a westaboo.
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>>147096967
I looked up "Odin semen" on google and that book is one of the first things to come up. It's called "The Construction of Homosexuality" by David F. Greenburg. I wouldn't take it as gospel, but it seems like he tries to grapple with inheritance and men becoming bachelor-warrior-hunters to deal with being left out of the system of limited land ownership. It's interesting.

I just want to play Viking Conquest I keep getting sidetracked by reading.
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>>147108559
Didn't you make almost all the Japanese weapons unbalanced for no reason?
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>waaaggh why are europeans superior to the japanese who are only just getting out of their medieval period waaagh
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>>147108630
Skeletons and Lolis are player only atm and female Uesugi is Historically Accurate™. Next patch she is getting demoted from Great Lord to Pretender so you will see her even less.

>>147108765
>t adds a bunch of stupid shit for spic roleplayers
Which is completely optional...well except for the gear being old on Kyushu.

>all that ugly chinese shit
I'm not, I'm only putting in the stuff that doesn't look like shit. Sadly all the stuff I add only makes me realize show shitty the Gekokujo assets are.

>>147109038
see above

>>147108957
>>147109167
Does it count as being a westaboo if I'm from the west? Also apart from seeing the gear for sale in Kyushu you don't ever have to see and of the "westaboo" stuff

>>147109224
No those were already like that. I removed it from all the swords but the nodachi but I think I will take it of them too since it doesn't really make any sense
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>>147109347
More like why they're even there.
>implying European swords WERE superior to Japanese ones when used against Japanese armor and in their situations
A knight would die in three seconds on a Japanese battlefield, as a samurai would die in three seconds on a European one.
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>>147109224
If I remember well, this got fixed in the latest patch.
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>>147109347
Why are Europeans in a feudal Japanese mod at all? The Portuguese never colonized nipland because the society was highly militarized and a war half-way across the world would be unwinnable.
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>>147109172
Continued: Also, what the fuck guys it's too late in the week to be talking about divinity and fundamental principles of reality in the context of a pre-Aquinas Christianity.
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>>147109426
>Does it count as being a westaboo if I'm from the west? Also apart from seeing the gear for sale in Kyushu you don't ever have to see and of the "westaboo" stuff
I'm honestly only rustled at your posts, I don't care about the equipment - the PC will never be balanced anyway
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>>147109448
>A knight would die in three seconds on a Japanese battlefield

holy kek, lmao. weebs actually believe this


>>147109481
They're just Portuguese sailors that you pay to stick around and stab fuckers
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>>147108115
>be writer
>write a really good book
>there's only one version of it, which is usually sent into some library or so (after all, it's most likely that you wrote all that so other people could read it)
>it's the only version of a really good book until some scribe gets to write a copy of it, which takes a really long time, and then they either deliver it to their own library or sell it

Those things better be expensive to pay off all the trouble.
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>>147109706
>>A knight would die in three seconds on a Japanese battlefield
What makes you think he wouldn't? The Japanese literally fucking spammed pikewalls, he's less maneuverable than samurai horse archers, and the billions of mountains and forests don't make for good charging ground.
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>>147109481
Because they didn't make the Aztecs a proper faction in Caribbean!.

>>147109595
I keep on my character in memory of Oni-chan and Oda-fag. Those slanteyed heathens knew how to have a back-and-forth and not get "rustled"
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>>147109849
Miko-chan has a short temper.

>>147109706
Knights are worthless against the YARIMEIJIN and YUMI ASHIGARU DE GOZAIMASU spam the Japanese used.
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>>147109823
There aren't any knights in GekoNewer anyway so what are you even talking about? All the western units are 17th century Pike&Shot.

>>147109968
Miko-chan needs to take a chill pill and practice some of those fat-guy-under-a-tree teachings on patience
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>>147109823
Probably the plate armor he's decked out in that would be impervious to everything the japanese could throw at him, save for tetsubos

Assuming guns are not in the equation(which if they were, euros would still dominate), the Japanese would stand literally no chance against a European army
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>>147109706
>holy kek, lmao. weebs actually believe this
He's right but not because of equipment. Europeans were obviously better equipped, but assaulting Japan would be suicide, Nips know that fucking island well, the Khans learned the hard way.
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>>147110084

They didn't assault Japan because it was on the other fucking side of the world, if the Europeans had the time and resources, and weren't busy fighting each other, Japan would be a cakewalk, simply because of superior firepower
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>>147110060
>There aren't any knights in GekoNewer anyway so what are you even talking about
I'm not talking about Gekonewer just this other westaboo that apparently thinks the west was always supreme in everything despite getting blown the fuck out multiple times by other peoples.

>>147110069
>elite mounted armored warriors work against arrowspam and pikewalls
Arrowspam and pikewalls literally hardcounter knights, they can't even get close and fuck if they were disciplined. And the thing about guns is that in the 1500s guns are inferior to bows in terms of range, rof, and sometimes even damage, they're just hella fucking scary and would kill Japanese armor (though not necessarily plate). Cannons are superior, I'll give you that though.

>>147110217
You'd expect that of the Mongols too, but it didn't fucking happen.
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So I'm a tenth of the way through the Last Kingdom book and holy shit is it good. It's not some romantical take on Vikings. It's fucking real shit. They betray, murder, and rape and none of those are shied away from. It's on sale on the Kindle store for two bucks right now for those that want it.
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>>147110217
Having to sail half-way across the world is a huge disadvantage though, meanwhile all the Japs are already there. The firepower difference isn't that big, considering Japs were producing their own guns since they first encountered them, and the Portuguese had no fortifications on the island, nor do they have any knowledge of the terrain.
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>>147109481
There were actually enough Portugese, and later Dutch, Europeans in the area at the time to explain them being present as hireable soldiers. It is something of a stretch to have them be a really sizeable part of your army, but if there were a Japanese daimyo who decided to hire them en masse then perhaps there would have been a reason for them to stay and enjoy the privilege of being a part of the warrior class.

Portugese armadas were making their way to India yearly with 1000 soldiers on board combined with 1500 sailors in the most significant example. This was a hundred years before the gekokujo period. They were in significant enough numbers that in 1509 they defeated the combined fleets of the Mamluks, Ottomans, Calicut, and Gujurat, an act which opened up the Indian Ocean and beyond to become dominated by European traders.

This idea that only a very small number of Europeans would have reached Japan is partially true in that there may have been only a few hundred soldiers, maybe even a thousand, over a period of time, but at this point in time also it only took a few hundred well-trained soldier-adventurers to make an impact.
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>>147092803
>bernard cornwell
muh nigga, throw in azincourt or the holy grail series too too
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>>147110736
It was illegal for Europeans to leave the designated Euro quarters.
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>>147110746

I planned on just reading his Saxon Series, but I really did his writing style. I'll definitely check out what I can.
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>>147110736
So then my mod isn't a meme mod?
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>>147110469
Elite mounted armoured warriors were countered by a shift in the organisation of society, not just by pikes. Metallurgy became an easier and cheaper process in Europe in a way that allowed large numbers of "common" troops to be equipped with some measure of protection above a buff coat.
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>>147110469


>Arrowspam and pikewalls literally hardcounter knights

The Japanese lacked bodkin style arrows, they'd do jack shit against the Knights clad in plate nor the horses clad in mail

As for the pikes, the Europeans would simply pepper all the japs to death with crossbows/longbows if English because guess what, none of those dumbfucks had shields, and all they have is lamellar style armor

>You'd expect that of the Mongols too, but it didn't fucking happen.
Were mongols walking around in plate armor and mail? No? Okay now fuck off.

The main reason the Mongols even got btfo, was because nature typically fucked up their entire navies

>>147110729
>The firepower difference isn't that big

Guns already ruled out as Japs got then way after the Europeans got them. Non-gunpowder ranged weaponry is also vastly in favor of Europeans, whos longbows and crossbows outclassed the yumi significantly
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>>147109774
>>147108354
I will hand copy a book of your choosing right now today if it gets me the deed to an expensive high tech factory that produces luxury items
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>>147110859
According to who?
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>>147110859
A lot of things are illegal that happen in war. That argument would make more sense when order is being enforced more heavily by the shogunate (which they did to the point of building a new island to keep the Europeans on), but there were soldiers present in the area and a warlord might make them an offer if he's about to lose his war.

>>147110976
Loli's are memes.
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>>147111230
>Loli's are memes
Oh okay ...
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>>147111078
>Guns already ruled out as Japs got then way after the Europeans got them
so you're assuming the Europeans are attacking before they ever started trading with Japan?
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>>147050551
Is there a way to have the floris mod but with the default warband equipment. I really dislike all the new shit that was added, and some of the item names really rustle me.
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>>147111416

The guy said "knights" therefore we are to assume pre-mass gunbowder warfare
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France has nukes, japan has no nukes. No context, europe wins.
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>>147111078
Are you telling me that literally everyone was clad in fucking plate? Because that's an outright lie.
>xbows
Crossbows are inferior in range and significantly worse RoF than bows. I'm not pretending the Japanese would blow an entire European army the fuck out. I'm saying that they weren't as horrendously outclassed as you like to think and that their equipment were adjusted to their needs and battlefield realities, and that neither elite warrior would really do well put into an army of the other culture.
>Guns already ruled out as Japs got then way after the Europeans got them
The earliest surviving firearm is the Heilongjiang hand cannon, which was manufactured no later than 1288.The Heilongjiang hand cannon weighs 7.8 pounds, and could be carried by a soldier. The earliest artistic depiction of a hand cannon is a firearm-wielding figure that was found in twelfth-century Sichuan. The earliest reliable evidence of hand cannons in Europe comes from the 14th century, during which time both Europeans and Arabs appear to have begun using them. In East Asia, the Koreans acquired knowledge of the hand cannon from China in the 14th century. Japan was already aware of gunpowder warfare but did not mass-produce firearms until 1543, when the Portuguese introduced matchlocks known as tanegashima.
They didn't use them, they had them. Irrelevant for the purpose of discussion but just saying.

>>147111001
They were countered by a rediscovery of a professional disciplined infantry above all.

>>147111230
Lolis are the only acceptable meme.
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>>147111431
don't play with expanded
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>>147111492
I assumed he just meant a European in full-plate. The West had little interest in Japan before the mass use of firearms.
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>>147111661
All options install the shit.
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>>147111747
been ages, either mess around with items.txt and modules and change the loaded brfs or play a different mod like toccan's or whatev
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>>147111641
>I'm saying that they weren't as horrendously outclassed as you like to think
not him but
japanese didn't have much outside influence
europeans interacted with each other a lot, so they adapted to different modes of warfare
but the japanese were secluded and were only used to their style of warfare, which is why you don't see a much more diverse array of arms in japanese history
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>>147111641

>Are you telling me that literally everyone was clad in fucking plate? Because that's an outright lie.

Of course not, knights of course would be though, and infantry would have mail hauberks, which would also be impenetrable by the Yumi

>Crossbows are inferior in range and significantly worse RoF than bows

You do realize bows aren't universal right? The Japanese Yumi had a mere draw weight of about 30lb, and had an effective range of about 60 yards with the high quality ones made for samurai, and a mere 30 yards for the ones meant for ashigaru. Combined with a lack of bodkin style arrows, they'd be completely ineffective against mail. Meanwhile a 15th century steel crossbow had a drw wight towards 800lb and a range in the 300's. And an English longbow had similar range capabilities and draw weights near 120lb, with bodkin arrows. These would obliterate Japanese armor completely from a vastly superior range.

>>147111740
I know, but he's the one who brought up the comparison and said Euros would get btfo in "seconds" so I had to tell him off
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>>147112368
>The Japanese Yumi had a mere draw weight of about 30lb
i don't believe that, for something to class as a bow used in warfare it has to be around 60lbs
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>>147112368
>draw weights near 120lb
120 would be the minimum for a longbow meant for war.

veteran archers could approach 200 and 140 would have been more typical for the average bowman
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>What I expected

A fun sea raid where the enemy is shocked at my arrival and is fighting to defend their homes, holding the line as best as they can.

>What I got

The enemy doing their best to circle around my troops, not to engulf them and destroy them, but because for some reason the AI wants to fight me on my ships?
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>>147112508
By European standards obviously, protip, Japan isnt European

>>147112559
Sure, but I was just giving a lowball for the Euro longbows, which even at their lowest are about 4 times greater than Japanese ones
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>>147112368
>The Japanese Yumi had a mere draw weight of about 30lb, and had an effective range of about 60 yards with the high quality ones made for samurai, and a mere 30 yards for the ones meant for ashigaru
Can I have a source on this, because if it's true then fuck that bullshit the Japanese can be cleansed for all I care how did they learn nothing from both the Mongols and the Chinese?
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>>147112668
>By European standards obviously
that's a universal thing, anything lower is a hunting bow
which means it isn't going to penetrate anything other than bare flesh or targets, at short distances
which means no matter where on earth you used it it wouldn't be suitable for warfare
draw weight wouldn't be affected by any sort of standards since it's the actual energy exerted by the bow, that's universal shit
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>Nurses looking better than the ladies

VC continues the Warband tradition. Bannerlord best add an option to marry the prettier peasant girls instead of the inbred nobility. Let it hit my RTR hard, I don't care.
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>>147113021
>where I can see them
I don't get it
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>>147113021
there are marriageable ladies with that face, Wessex has at least one
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>>147113168
Hands on her tits, not on her ass.
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>>147113170
>Wessex has at least one

But Saxons.

She doesn't wear a dumb head thing, right?
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>>147113021
>>Nurses looking better than the ladies

That doesn't say a lot.
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>>147113454
>She doesn't wear a dumb head thing, right?
She does, but can't you dress ladies once you marry them?
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>>147112786
https://books.google.com/books?id=u2DKesPhsxgC&pg=PA37&dq=yumi&hl=en&ei=DrsqToWXE8fegQe7qNH1Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=yumi&f=true


There are some other places as well to look, but generally the highest you'd probably see for some very high quality bows would be somewhere close to 70 possible, where most of them, especially for peasants, were very low, around 20-30lb


Basically, Japanese weaponry is shit, largely a byproduct of their lack of natural resources and lack of foreign enemies
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>>147113558
It says a lot for Viking Conquest.
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>The priest slave in Vikings didn't end up going full pagan after going to their holy place

Well color me surprised
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what specifically are the mechanics of the horse archery skill?
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The choice is yours, /mbg/.
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>>147114884
Religion?
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>>147114848
reduces the accuracy penalty for ALL ranged weapons on horseback
so bows, thrown, crossbows, and firearms
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>>147114932
Christian.
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>>147114981
Forbid plundering and make London great again

Then remove Norse scum
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>>147115031
London belongs to the Angles, though.
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>>147113706
That literally doesn't make any sense, you can't even hurt a human with 40-50 lbs at point blank.
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>tfw can only serve Alfred in story mode VC and not sandbox

Guess I gotta be my own Alfred
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>>147114981
Devastate.
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>>147114884
Round up all the inhabitants and start slaughtering them one by one as the rest watch. Be creative about it.

Now after a while some of them will start to 'shut off'. You should randomly spare some of these ones so they spend the rest of their lives wondering why. Though not before covering them in blood collected from the dead. If you can convince some of your men to do it, you should have an outdoor feast in the villiage center, and eat some of the villagers too. Invite the ones you spared and dress them nicely and set a fancy table, it must be absolutely spotless and clean, but hang some bodies up as decoration far in the background, just close enough that vague shapes can be made out on occasion when the fire gets a sudden minor surge of oxygen.

Encourage light hearted conversation, perhaps pick only the more respectable and well mannered men from your army.

After the feast make one of the villiagers the mayor and leave. Give him an official sash.
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>>147115252

>you can't even hurt a human with 40-50 lbs at point blank.

That's literally wrong
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>>147114957
But by what percent?
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>>147115531
10% maybe, at 10 points the penalty is gone
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Glad all the weebs have shriveled back to their lairs
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>>147105687
Yeah, incredibly, culture values change over time.
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>>147115845
I wasn't a weeb, just a chink, and if their bows really are just 30-70 then I have literally nothing to say, like what did they use their 180 cm deer-hunting bows to fight wars?
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>>147115976
I'm more amazed you thought they could even be on par with western bows
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>band of shield shield maidens in Vikings, all of them are chubby and non fit

The fuck, at least make them look tough if you're going to make them ahistorical shields maidens


I'm done with this show fuck this, I need to go genocide some pagans in VC to make up for this
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>>147116035
>western bows
I give zero shits about western bows. They don't even come up to half of Chinese standards which is bullshit seeing as we spammed trade everywhere.
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>>147116194
>They don't even come up to half of Chinese standards
what are you on about
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>>147116194
>Chinese
>Standards

kek
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>>147116170
#healthyatallsizes #stoptheshaming #womenaredemigods #downwiththepatriarchy

>>147116287
>>147116305
>implying the Ming Imperial Army didn't have standards for their fuckmassive bow regiments
Ok.
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>>147116439
i don't really know what you mean in comparison of western bows to chinese bows
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>>147116439
Sure, they might've had standards for themselves, standards that would pale in comparison to English ones
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>>147116495
Oh okay
I meant that they could be excused for not having Western-tier bows, since they never came in contact with western bows, but they most certainly did come in contact with Ming bows which were more or less just refinements of Mongol bows.
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I'm too much of a bum/lazy to get GitHub working correctly/figured-out because last time I tried to do that all I learned was that it was shit to do on Windahs.

http://pastebin.com/raw/tXcwDYXn

This is the item_kinds1.txt for warwolf. I DL'd the version off github, then just edited it a bunch via Morghs

Basically all actual items have been capitalized and mildly de-gibberished. I didn't change the basic of what they were saying much because I don't know how accurate their claims were - eg if it was labeled "Armor_plate" but actually was some shitty leather armor, it was still renamed "Plate_Armour" because I don't care to scan through every item in the game to confirm its name matches with its picture.

Would appreciate if it could be uploaded to https://github.com/Kushinda-Ranfuuhime/mountain-blade-warwolf by whomever.
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>>147116562
Japan is shit tier, what can I say
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>>147116562
well not to mention the east had composite bows while the west had self bows till the mongol invasion of europe in the 13th century, though england still used very tall self bows till archery was replaced by standardized musketeers
western bows were actually simpler but england took archery as their sort of identity as well as heavy infantry
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>>147110469
>1500s guns are inferior to bows in terms of range, rof, and sometimes even damage
you're wrong about everything except rate of fire
>"literally" "hardcounter" knights
you're an idiot
>the samurai vs. knight discussion... again
you're all idiots
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>>147116872
>an idiot for knowing samurai are horribly outclassed
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>>147116631
Cool, thanks anon
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reminder not to modify or redistribute russian mods
reminder to turn off cheats and edit mode
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>>147116535
Firstly that's entirely irrelevant, I wasn't comparing Chinese and English bows, and secondly I think you're wrong, since the Ming bow was at LEAST as good as a mongol bow and mongol bows didn't 'pale in comparison' to English ones, in fact I've seen people say the mongolian / Chinese composite bow was anywhere from about the same to completely dominates the English longbow.
I don't think the Chinese crossbow was inferior to Western ones either, we just never managed to get guns into popular usage because of reactionary generals and no competitors.

>>147116631
I'll put it in once I get my VPN up.
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>>147117010
No, you're an idiot because you don't even have your facts straight
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>>147117229
Like what
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>>147117181
the arrows used by longbow archers were completely different from the arrows used by mongols
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>>147116872
>effective killing range
>80m
>Strickland and Hardy suggest that "even at a range of 240 yards heavy war arrows shot from bows of poundages in the mid- to upper range possessed by the Mary Rose bows would have been capable of killing or severely wounding men equipped with armour of wrought iron.
Okay.
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>>147117442
did you look at that image at all
that's about japanese bows
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>>147117132
Which one is this? Warphilia?

That castle management looks like a fuckin' mess of cards.

Interesting that the min size is 450 there (it's 350 in Warwolf), and I believe it recs more RAM than Warwolf.
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>>147117181

An English yew longbow outclasses anything the Mongols ever produced, strictly as bows

Obviously though the Mongols werent using theirs as infantry weapons though, so not really comparable
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I did all of this to defend your westabooness Gekoneweranon, all for you
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>>147117675
the mongols used infantry
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>>147116631
Committed.

>>147117314
Thought we were comparing bows, not arrows, and apparently the mongols did have Bodkin-like arrows
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3e74ai/so_where_did_the_mongols_get_their_arrows_from/ctcaauy
Although, this ain't a reliable source, but I literally googled what arrows did the mongols use and most of links seem to agree with him - not that that means much.

>>147117675
Yeah but what makes you think that, because from what I can tell they had both higher maximum range (500m vs. 300m) and higher draw weight (250lbs+ vs. 200+ lbs), and were smaller to boot.
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>>147117860
As a minority
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>>147117294
for one, you said bows outrange and can even out-power an arqebus, which is so totally fictitious I can only assume you got that from Shogun 2. Second, you seem to think "arrowspam" and "hardcounters" are accurate or even useful terms to describe anything military.

Third, you're suggesting that a european knight would win against a samurai without any regard to period or what kind of knight or what kind of samurai. you can't just measure the hardness of steel or coverage of armor and determine a victor from that.
also, you're engaging in the classic "samurai vs knight" argument, which never gets anywhere because it's fucking stupid

>>147117442
For one: these are Japanese yumi, not English longbows.
Second: the english longbow is massively fucking over-rated by (surprise) english historians and was not a lethal murder weapon because arrows do not kill people outright, they maim and incapacitate.
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>>147117532
SOTT

On an aside note, there is actually 0 data whatsoever about historical Japanese bow draw weights, all data is about modern yumi, which are not intended for war.

I'm inclined to think that the draw weights were not very impressive, but 30 lbs is far too low.
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>>147117949
I guess the best test of a yumi would be to see how, given materials and traditional methods, how strong it could possibly be.
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>>147117934
>Thought we were comparing bows, not arrows
they're obviously very related
>and apparently the mongols did have Bodkin-like arrows
bodkins aren't used for armor piercing during the 15th century
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>Honestly enjoying VC and having fun with it

The fuck is wrong with me?
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>>147118156
nothing
it's a good mod, people are just burned over the initial release which was fucking terrible
the mod didn't get good till reforged really
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>>147117314
every single bow-using society had dozens of different types of arrowheads for different purposes
bodkins and war arrows are hardly a unique technology
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>>147118156
fun things are fun
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>>147117945

>for one, you said bows outrange and can even out-power an arqebus, which is so totally fictitious I can only assume you got that from Shogun 2. Second, you seem to think "arrowspam" and "hardcounters" are accurate or even useful terms to describe anything military.

You got the wrong guy m8

>Third, you're suggesting that a european knight would win against a samurai without any regard to period or what kind of knight or what kind of samurai.

Please tell me how all those purely slashing weapons(outside of the tetsubo) the samurai had are going to deal with mail(assuming early styled knights) or plate(high medieval knights), while anything at a typical medieval knights disposal could pierce through the what the samurai wore, which was mostly made up of leather and wood
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>>147118156
Its a good mod, people are just butthurt that its infantry heavy and cant just recruit swadian knights and just hit 3, f1, f3 and sit back
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>>147118324
>leather and wood
this is a myth
armor was usually made of lacquered leather or (iron) lamellae. wood and bamboo are not part of the equation

>purely slashing
just like the european knights, swords were a secondary weapon for japanese soldiers. the primary weapons have always been polearms. in addition, japanese were known to have battle-axes in their arsenal as well
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>>147118591
european knights didn't use polearms as primary weapons till the 14th century, unless you count lances
even then european swords evolved more and more thrust centric, by the end of the medieval period the rapier was being used
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>>147118591
>its a myth, it wasnt made of leather, it was made of leather


You're retarded

>japanese were known to have battle-axes in their arsenal as well

Can find literally nothing on this aside from some clearly gratuitous art, so I'm inclined to believe you just made that up
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>ask why my mod is a meme
>some one says there shouldn't be any europeans in it
>>147109448
>>More like why they're even there
>>A knight would die in three seconds on a Japanese battlefield
>my mod doesn't have knights in it
>nearly 3 hour discussion about knights vs samurai

Okay but roman legionary soldiers vs an army of three-kingdoms era chinks. Who would win?
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>>147118830
>by the end of the medieval period the rapier was being used

the rapier was never commonly a martial weapon. While its fragility is over exaggerated and some were used in war and they are not the dainty smallswords some people pretend, sabers were still preferred for over them as a battle sidearm
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>>147115373
>>147115420
I presumed that the bottom choice was devastate, so I went with that and Jesus Christ, my frame rate dropped so hard.
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>>147118939
>>Okay but roman legionary soldiers vs an army of three-kingdoms era chinks. Who would win?
Just load up Warwolf and find out, anon
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>>147118939
Chinks obviously, just need to active their officers to use musou attacks
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>>147118426
More like everyone is even uglier than in the base game and there's no lolimod available.

>>147118878
>lamellar armor is 'leather and wood' armor
I'm not even him but mate.
>axes
I think he means Naginata and Nagamaki which are legit pretty fucking heavy and could probably be used as poleaxes? There weren't no axes afaik though

>>147118939
The Romans, they had the edge on us in battlefield engineering and their infantry was top-notch, the Chinese didn't have cavalry to speak of to exploit arguably their only weakness
It does sort of come down to whether the Han-era arbalest things could penetrate Roman armor though, since we fielded those things like crazy.
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>>147119071
Brunhild looks upset.
Brunhild looks upset.
Brunhild looks upset.
Brunhild needs braces.
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>>147119071
BRUNHILD IS NOT OKAY WITH THIS
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>>147119071
>Brunhild is upset
Wew lad, your dick is staying dry tonight
>Donnchadh
Is this a meme
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Any way to change the font in TLD? This is giving me eye cancer
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>>147119071
>nice Christian Gaelic name
>dresses like a viking
>pillages towns
what are you? some kind of pagan?
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>>147119181
DENTAL PLAN
>>147119210
She's okay with burning a town and looting it. Just not about enslaving soldiers who decided to stay in town.
>>147119314
What's wrong with Donnchadh?
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>>147118964
the point was to emphasize the thrust orientation that european swords took to
armor was being outmoded which made sabers more effective
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>>147119421
Don Chad
I'm not sure if it's a legit name or just a meme
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>>147118324
>leather/wood samurai armor
Totally myth. Source: Samurai 1550-1600, Osprey. Specifically mentions fabled "bamboo"armor as being fiction
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>>147119407
That's the name of a companion.

>>147119492
According to Google, it is a real name.
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>>147117773
That's great but you were making reference to armor and weapons you were about 300 years off.

>>147117945
>it's fucking stupid
Thank you.

>>147119078
Soon as the /mbg/ localization is done i will.
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>>147110591
I don't know why, but for some reason I've been under the impression that Vikings were against raping the peoples they villaged. Dunno where I heard it or why I believed it, now that I think about it
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>>147119567
>they villaged
Well uh
I mean they were pretty lawful and fair once they conquered a place and settled their asses there, but if you're going to steal their shit and burn their farms down and eat the cow in front of them I don't see why raping a tavern wench who''s obviously asking for it is crossing the line.
Shit "professional" Feudal armies did that.
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>>147119519

Their shit was lamellar m8, it only evolved in that period you specified thanks to EUROPEANS introducing them to purely steel armor pieces
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>>147119492
>module about literal cucks
>entire plot is just HUEHUE WAR A BAD
>the currency is the pingas
might as well go full meme
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My Uruk-hai really needs to hit the gym
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>>147119829
>entire plot is just HUEHUE WAR A BAD
Is it
>literal cucks
I-is it?
Also lolianon fuck you hurry up and add faces that don't look like they're from death
Throw in the WW bodies if you have to frick
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>>147119981
The story mode is WAAAAH WAR IS BAD ;( but who the fuck plays the story mode


>literal cucks
Yeah, you can get cucked if you have a wife
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>>147119720
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>>147120025
>war is bad in module about the Sons of Ragnar
??????
>you can get cucked
Epic just what we needed in a game with minimal character interaction, one of the most annoying features of CK2.
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>>147119981
>>literal cucks
>I-is it?

Yes. When your get married, your wife will eventually start fucking another Lord and you'll know about it via pop-up. Nothing you can do about it. You can't fuck another Lord's wife, though, unless you roleplay it. There is a tweak you can add to the game to prevent cucking, though.
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>>147118830
obviously lances are included
dismounted knights would use their lances on foot as well, since early lances are just longer spears
>>147118878
the myth is the use of wood...
as far as axes go, Ono and Masakari were occasionally used for war, they were a favoured weapon by the yamabushi and could be up to 6 feet long, similar to the danish axe
>>147119179
both the Han dynasty and romans relied heavily on auxiliary units, the Chinese would have at their disposal many nomadic cavalry auxiliaries - use nomads to defeat nomads
the romans would rely on germanic cavalry as well and other units
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>>147119557
When the fuck did anyone use that shit, it looks so gross.

>>147120142
Eh I'm pretty sure he meant just 'pure' legions and 'pure' Chinese
That being said I'm almost certain Germanic cav is inferior to Steppe horsefucker cav
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>>147120142

>as far as axes go, Ono and Masakari were occasionally used for war
Proofs? All I can find is meme shit like this
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>>147120283
>implying that's not an authentic Japanese battle axe
the steel was folded so it was much lighter than it appears
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They made Orthanc pathetically short
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HENRY THE THIRD
BABY
HONEY
I NEED YOU TO FOCUS
I NEED YOU TO GET OVER YOUR HATE-BONER FOR THE GAELICS
THIS TWO-FRONT WAR IS NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS
IF YOU JUST FUCKING END THE WAR WITH THE GAELICS, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS, WE CAN FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON WIPING OUT THE WELSH
THEY HAVE ONE (1) TOWN AND NOTHING ELSE
HENRY
HENRY, LISTEN
JUST DO IT
JUST SHIA LABEEF IT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>147120237
A good chunk of the 17th century I think. MurderEyeAnon would know best he posts pictured of it all the time.

It makes sideways vaginas damp.
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>>147120507
>WE WUZ COLONIZERS N SHIED
>>
Can someone explain to me what I'm supposed to be doing at the start of TLD?
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>>147120680
Is this supposed to be in reference to the Filipino guy in the back?
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>poop
>manage to take laria for myself
>50+ relations with noldor
>2000+ noldor army sacking it everyday

That's fucking bullshit
They treat me as a friend but keep attacking my city.
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>>147121078
Is he Filipino? He looks pretty damn black, headshape-wise although being bald isn't helping
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>>147121149

The character is part of the most powerful race in the world, yeah
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>>147121065
Building relations/rank and gathering a little force.
War starts out once you hit level 8. You can just cheat up, if you want.
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>>147121065
do quests for lords and missions for guild masters
also change the option in mod options so you can always talk to guild masters/merchants instead of having to find them in town, it saves a fuckload of time
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>>147121091
PIC RELATED

>>147121149
Filipinos are he niggers of slanteyed people anyway aren't they? The baldness is due to the hat hiding his hair to prevent clipping.
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>>147121223
>most powerful race

>>147121298
>Filipinos are he niggers of slanteyed people anyway aren't they?
We'd rather pretend they aren't asian so I guess, yeah.
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>>147121296
>>147121276

Who do I give all these metal scraps to?
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>>147121413
keep them, sometimes you'll get a quest to recover metal scraps
you might want to sell the low grade metal scraps, but if you get high grade metal scraps and turn them in for the quest you get a fuckhuge bonus
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>>147121349
>We'd rather pretend they aren't asian
Then aren't Indians the #1 slanteyed niggers?
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>>147121519
Cool, and whats this weird hand on a stick outside Isengard?
>>
>>147120283
in general they were considered pleb-tier weapons, but they did their job and were used on occasion, and would have been good against armor. I can't link to google books for some reason because 4chan thinks it's spam. They were known to be used by warrior monks, and one of the more famous warrior monks in mythology is depicted wielding all 7 weapons of the common man. (benkei nanamodori)
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>>147121706
no idea
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>>147121536
indians aren't slant eyed
in the united states south asians usually aren't even considered asian cause they look so different
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This looks pretty curvy.

Tachi?
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>>147122595
katana and tachi are both 刀 anyways
meaningless distinction tbqh
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>>147122683
Tachi it is then.
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>>147122595
does that blade even have a texture?
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>>147082908
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-29/20-year-old-cosplayer-announces-marriage-to-51-year-old-oh-my-goddess-author-kousuke-fujishima/.103771
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>>147121536
No because we usually actually manage to pretend they aren't Asian, fuck those guys they have their own """""civilization"""""
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>>147122683
>implying
かたなー刀
たちー太刀
If you wanna speak for the kanji, try to learn the kanji or at least google it.
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>>147122864
Barely.
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>>147123085
nay, 刀 are single-edged bladed weapons
both katana and tachi qualify under this description
so they are in fact both 刀
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>>147122912
Kek, I think I understand some of the otakurage now
I feel just a little cucked just for having a picture of her on my computer
Good luck to her I guess.
>literally hours ago
...huh.
I don't like this feeling of cuckoldry, I don't even know why I have it but it's painful.

>>147123327
They are both TYPES of 刀, they are not both written 刀 and are generally not the same weapon.
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>>147123562
they're both nip swords
any other distinctions are meaningless
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>>147123729
t. Gladius and XIII are the same thing
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>>147123562
At least she will be there to take care of him in his old age.
>>
>>147123782
You know Gladius means "sword" right?
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>>147123804
It...doesn't make me any happier although good for her and that old guy is a pretty good looking old guy and definitely well-respected among her circles. Fuck I don't even know WHY I feel cucked, I don't follow her or anything just have a few photos of her sitting around, I'm not a hyperotaku who pretends she's my wife...
FUCK

>>147123897
Yeah, what's your point? The Roman sword used in meme legionary days was the same as the XIII?
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>>147123782
XIII is obviously a modern and purely academic typology and classification
to any contemporary of the medieval era they would just continue to use whatever local word for "Sword" they had
to anybody who would have actually been using swords, they would have all just been swords
distinctions are meaningless and purely academic
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>>147123990
So we should just name everything a 'sword'? Also like no, not really if you have a professional army. I don't know if the Japanese did but I was talking last thread about the differences between a Shortspear, a Spear, a Longspear, and a spiked staff as far as the Ming Army cared last thread, so there were standard classifications and I'm sure the Japanese had some form of them too.
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>>147123967
Yes a XIII is a Gladuis. A Katana is a Gladuis.

That old man is going to use her as a sheath for his Gladius.
>>
>>147123562
>>147123967
>i "understand" the otakurage now
>but im not a hyperotaku i swear
>yet i feel cucked by some woman i don't know living her own life
i have some bad news for you
>>
>take quest to purge area around isengard of wild orcs
>kay
>down to just one party of them
>they run off deep into rohan territory
>still my problem

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147124203
>orcs
>kay
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>>147124150
See, the funny thing about that last statement, it doesn't make me feel anything. I don't feel bad because she's getting married. I turn over she's pregnant, wew good for her Japanese people are insane on girls who delay on that. I imagine her with some old dude, I say 'good for her' because that old guy is legit a pretty good choice, although 30 years is a bit much these days in my opinion.
It's a really weird feeling. I'll fuck off to sleep or something, it's probably 60 hour sleep deprivation getting to my head
>a katana is a gladius
Actually it's specifically not, because a katana must by definition be singled-bladed, and I'm pretty sure Gladii are supposed to be two-edged.

>>147124164
But that's the thing, I don't think it is feeling cucked. I don't know what it is and it's fading already. Maybe just shock? But it's still not comfortable, it's like an itch or when there's a hair on your eyebrow.
Fricking hell.
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So, what mods does /mbg/ recommend?
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>>147123990
distinctions are a more modern thing because of how standardized modern military equipment is
it's fine to use modern typologies and terminologies for distinction in games
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>>147124150
>>147123804
>organized
Where are you getting this stuff from, her facebook?
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>>147124495
>And also, there’s a baby growing inside of me

Do you think it is a shotgun wedding?

It's a really weird feeling. It is a caveman feeling bur don't let a young hot fertile woman getting married get you down. Just because a woman is married doesn't mean you can't fuck her. It just makes it slightly more difficult. You could still put a baby in her if you really tried.

>>147124881
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2016/07/01/oh-my-goddess-creator-weds-20-year-old-oh-my-god/
https://idol.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=otogi_nekomu&commit=Search
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>>147124616
H-hello?
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>>147125047
read the pastebin
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>>147125010
>Do you think it is a shotgun wedding?
I assume that means an unplanned one to account for a pregnancy, but probably.
Also nah I think I figured it out, it's a feeling of perpetuity that somehow gathered on her.
Same feeling when my grandfather died when I was 9 or when my sister got married a few years back, it's just a "what the fuck this shit ain't supposed to change" feeling.
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>>147125157
>I assume that means an unplanned one to account for a pregnancy
Pretty much.

A shotgun wedding is when a girls father shows up to your house with a shotgun and says you need to take responsibility.

It is a pretty popular saying down here in the south eastern united states.
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>>147125501
>with a shotgun
Move to the side and towards him, if he shoots it'll only mangle your arm at most and won't cause lethal damage, shotguns are too long to hit someone clinging to you. Grab his balls and crush them or take out his eyes.
If you get hurt in the process even better you can sue for damages as well as going for self defense.
No idea if that's even how it works in the states though
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>>147125676
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>>147125795
I managed it with some nigger trying to rob our apartment with one of my bigger kitchen knives at least.
Sucks for him that I stay in my room all day long so he didn't know anyone was home.
Anyway most humans are too pussy to actually pull the damn trigger.
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>>147125903
>>147125795
Or rather, I managed to get close enough to him to headbutt him and make him scramble away after he dropped the knife
I know it sounds like some tough guy bullshit but people will actually rob your apartment occasionally if you don't lock it over here.
Anyway fuck this shit I'm dying of sleep depriv
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>>147125676
I wouldn't answer the door if the guy on the other side had a gun. I'd go get my shotgun.

>>147125903
>not having a gun
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>>147125903
>>147126004
you don't go at somebody with a gun
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>>147125795
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>>147126087
Depends on how close they are to you mate, if they're literally pointing at you point blank with something and you don't have a firearm of your own already drawn and aimed, your best bet is to move suddenly to the side and forward or drop and move around / forward. If they already have a gun to your face there's not much else you can do.
Obviously only relevant if you really really REALLY don't want to marry the girl.

>>147126069
>needing a gun
If both of us had a gun then he'd just shoot me even if I had one, since he opened the door with some lockpick thing. I prefer no one having weapons, thanks - I'm competent enough in cqc to fight off some random middle-aged faggot trying to get something from my house, and murderers don't suddenly show up in your house unless they're assassins in which case they're fucking pros, you're fucked.

dying of sleep
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>>147126346
you just don't go at somebody with a gun
>your best bet is to move suddenly to the side and forward or drop and move around / forward.
your best bet is to do fucking nothing and wait till he's gone
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>>147126346
Who wouldn't want to marry this slanteyed heathen? Normally I preach against the temptation of sideways pussy but this bitch have fuckable body.

You said you caught him by surprise because he didn't know anyone was home. You chould of shot him without issue if you say he had anything in his hand(s) that even remotely looked like a weapon.
>>
and I thought knights vs samurai discussion was bad
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>>147126417
>do nothing
>he shoots you and you die
Good job. The whole idea of the father with the shotgun is that he'll shoot you if you don't agree isn't it? If he doesn't then what's the point, just say no he's too pussy to shoot anyway.
I mean shit you could also just lie and jilt the girl, but then he might shoot you anyway.
The whole idea of the 'best bet' is that he's GOING to kill you if you do nothing at all. Also, I'll be honest, a long gun like a shotgun is not that great really close up, like <50cm unless you have a twitchy trigger finger.

>>147126607
I meant that he was surprised there was anyone at home at all, these people just sneak into not-barred apartments and take shit. One of their favorite tricks is to knock on the door for a few minutes then pick the lock. I just don't answer doors period, since people who deliver shit call you first. Apartment is not huge and my bed is creaky, once I got up from it he knew I was home. Also seriously mate, I'd RATHER not have to shoot someone and possibly kill him.
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>>147125047
This has not been a very good day for actually discussing the game and mods, anon. Try again with a Viking tv show, samurai vs knight discussion, or some literally who nip girl getting married to some literally who nip man

Pendor is fun for a bit
Gekokujo or one of its variants
Swedish Mayo
But also read the pastebin
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>>147126770
most people don't want to kill other people
you're more likely to get murdered if you do something than if you do nothing, especially since he could claim self defense
this isn't one of your animes where ping ching ting tong dodges the bullets and uses his shyuramamashinalang attack against the bad guy
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>>147124616
Gekonewer
Viking Conquest
1257AD
Blood & Steel for fun
Warwolf
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>>147126789
The girl I can understand, but the guy isn't a literally who

>>147126891
Also fuck this I'm leaving, I just realized I turned this /pol/ by arguing gun rights and it's not like trying argue anything at all relevant to guns vs. cqc close up is going anywhere with people who haven't at least trained with them and done some basic cqc.
The assumption was that he'd shoot if you did nothing.
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>>147126960
>to guns vs. cqc close up is going anywhere with people who haven't at least trained with them and done some basic cqc.
i'm sure you're a real steven seagal
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>>147127040
Yeah yeah, and I'm sure you're an authority on it, I mean it's not like military training is a uni requirement here basic as it may be.
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>>147127040
As long as we're off topic like a bunch of faggots can we post our favorite dumb ass Seagal vids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybk6TKn-cNA
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>>147127127
they only tell you that to make you feel better
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Fuck
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>>147127265
>keep seeing the (!) in my eternally open browser
>can't keep myself from responding
I think I might make 70 hours this time. pls no respond for 5 minutes so I can fuck off my lack of sleep is affecting my judgement on the sleeping
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>>147126770
>a long gun like a shotgun
Mine is 106cm overall.

>I just don't answer doors period
I don't do this either. If someone breaks into my house though and they are gonna get shot because I'd probably be to scared to anything but shoot them. I live in South Carolina and this is a pretty backwards place. I don't think they would really frown on shooting home intruders.
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>>147127368
alright go to bed rambo
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I think I may of found one of the reasons that people are saying Yari Ashigaru are OP.

The weapon speed of almost all the yar is higher than most swords...That doesn't sound right at all.
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How come nobody ever talks about swedish mayo but I see people recommend it
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>>147127991
Yeah that is one thing I noticed, I felt like kenshiro with a pike
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>>147127208
those dresses are pretty beautiful
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>go to capture a troll for saruman
>greeted by this
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>>147126891
>>147127265
>dodging bullets
Not him, but there's a reason scrambling and zigzagging is a good way to cover ground between you and a guy with a gun if you don't have one
Guns kill or maim if they hit you but people don't react right away and it can be hard to hit someone who's relatively covering a lot of angular ground and has a small angular target area (not sure if this makes sense), basically how far up and down you can move your gun arm and how far left and right.
So basically if you're given the facts that you're close to someone and that guy is going to shoot you, the best thing you can do at that point is dodge down or to the side and in because dodging down only requires you remove your head from his aiming section which relatively speaking is not a lot and sideways / front until you're basically close-grappling them is a good idea too, same as above with the added benefit of if they're using any gun that's difficult to handle with only one hand they're going to be hard-pressed to actually aim at you, and of course at that point you can just keep socking them in the face or something after you get rid of the gun threat (he'll have at least one more occupied hand which is a really bad thing in fistfights, anyone who's done it even a bit in high school or something will know.)
tl;dr it's a bad position to be in and why are you in it but he's not really wrong

>>147127456
>just shoot'em mate
People like you are scary. Have you done this before by the way, shot at a person with intent to kill? Because from the meme stories and my grandfather, 'shooting someone dead is simple until you actually need to shoot', and he was hardcore Yankee Americano fucking up the Krauts.
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>>147128017
it's been around for awhile, there's nothing to say about it really, it's just good
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>>147128254
Lube up
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>>147128017
generally people talk about mods if they're really bad in a funny way
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>>147128017
i think the main reason why it's still in the OP is because we use swedish mayo to refer to it instead of whatever the fuck it's normally called
then new people don't know what it is, but if it's in the OP it sort of translates it for lack of a better word
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>>147128118
I guess I'll use the same length/wieght/STR ratio for their speed.

>>147128276
>People like you are scary
You are speaking in a "act or be killed" scenario not me. I'm just saying my action would be shoot him first not some stupid cqc bullshit.

All I was talking bout if the only reason they were getting married because she was pregnant which is called a "shotgun wedding" where I live. The whole "daddy showing up with a shotgun" thing is wild-west-cowboy era bullshit. If It has actually involved a shotgun in the last decade is doudful. You turned this into some stupid "home intruder" scenario. It would be like starting a discussion about quail hunting if you said "a bird n the hand is worth 2 in the bush".
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>>147128870
>You are speaking in a "act or be killed" scenario not me. I'm just saying my action would be shoot him first not some stupid cqc bullshit.
Oh no I'm not him, I'm just saying if you'd actually just shoot you're scary
>you will never TRIP AND FALL into that girl, grabbing her tits and taking off her panties and sticking your head into her pussy on the way down
I hope you people know TLR
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>>147128956
TLR?
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>>147129020
To Love Ru
It's an Ecchi manga, used to have a ""plot"" in the normal TLR but now To Love Ru Darkness is just a monthly with god-tier art and clever ways of smuggling vaginas past the editors
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>>147129106
>Ecchi
I don't bother with that.
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>>147129201
Whatever mate, I'm an /a/ fanatic so yeah
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fuck max armor, aesthetics are where it's at
>king declared war on sand niggers while i'm waging my personal war with denmark
god damnit
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>>147129226
If I'm reading a manga it is for the soul purpose of jerking off so Ecchi doesn't interest me. If i wanted a story I'd read a novel or play a Visual novel.

Fuck Muv-Luv for not working. I get like 20 minutes into it and it is fucking non-stop errors until it finally crashes. Hopefully the steam release will work and have a torrent. At lease the devlopers said they intend to restore the R18 content.
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>>147129570
>wanting to cry
being a soomikafag is suffering
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>>147129529

Splinted coat+great helm is still pretty aesthetic desu
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>>147129570
>jerking off to ecchi
That's not the point at all.
>>
I feel like the TLD guys spent 60% of their time just making scenes
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>>147129660
surcoat matches my heraldic is the thing
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>>147129813
>tfw heraldic matching horse
>gets crippled

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147129634
It has been to long since I played a nice depressing VN. Crescendo made me cry, Swan Song and Cross Channel left me with a nice depressed feeling. Clanned and Fate/Stay night left me with that deep empty feeling you get when you finish a good story. Like you are going to miss those charecters after you really grew attached to them.

I miss you so much Leto II but I know a pearl of your wisdom lives on forever dreaming inside of every sandworm. I will try my best to keep walking the Golden Path.

>>147129730
>jerking off to ecchi
>That's not the point at all
I just said that. That is why it doesn't interest me. The same reason I don't look at victoria's secret magazines or sports illustrated swimsuit edition anymore. I'm not 14. I need more than just "hints" of lewdness.
>>
Does Floris run on the latest versions of Warband?
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>>147129973
at least you can heal it
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>>147129803
You can't start your own faction, you can't start sieges, the grinding is absurd and there's no way to make it play less like a campaign.
Those are my main complains, everything else is great I feel.
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How do I deal with being outnumbered 3:1 when the enemy force is comprised of like 20% cavalry?
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>>147130130
yes, version number doesn't matter unless the mod is made for a newer version of warband
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>>147130257
I'm pretty miffed by how underwhelming Uruk-hai are

>shit weapons
>shit armor
>are literally Uruks with different heads

These fuckers are supposed to be the quality arm of orcs
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>>147130305
thanks
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>>147130291
Depends what module
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>>147130398
native
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>>147130438
Brodok spearmen of course
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>>147130438
100% Crossbowmen
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>Another port siege
>Another "The defenders keep moving towards your ship instead of defending the town despite your troops advancing ever forward" episode

Why? Why would the AI do this? Do they think "Shit, these 200 troops are gonna fuck the 600 of us up, better steal their ships and get outta here"? Is that it?
>>
>>147130932
That's what I'd do desu
>>
So Swedish mayonnaise is just warband in indochina pretty much?
>>
fires of war update fucking when
this mods really needs to be worked on
>>
Does a bastard weapon need 1H parry AND 2H parry? All the ones I see in Item_kinds have either one or the other but never both.
>>
>>147131594
it's """100% done, except the scenes"""
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>>147131819
In order for it to be a bastard weapon, it needs the 2h proficiency flag but not the two_handed flag which is directly above the primary and secondary flags
You only parry with a bastard weapon when it's used two handed so you'd normally use the 2h parry flags
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>>147132057
>You only parry with a bastard weapon when it's used two handed so you'd normally use the 2h parry flags

Oh I didn't think of that. Thanks.
>>
If you got to ask TW/Captainlust 5 questions about Bannerlord (and you would get actual answers, not just a "maybe"), what would you ask?
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>horses can't go in your storage chest
>but they can go in the larder
>>
Just a reminder that you used to be able to slaughter and eat your horses before 0.894
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>>147133474
horses are not for eating!
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>>147133605
What are they for? Fucking?
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>>147133708
yes
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>>147133708
Obviously


KHUZAITS WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD
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>>147133708
>What are they for?
Fucking.
>Fucking?
Yes.
t. Genghis
>>
>>147133837
The Khuzaits cannot dominate the world because the Wiccan Gods are going to make sure the Battanians reclaim their homeland. All of it.
>>
>>147129570
What is this mod? Looks like fun
>>
>>147133708
What else would horses be for?
>>
>>147133880
Floris.
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>>147133972
Riding? You know, with a saddle? On their back? Keeping your penis out of them?
>>
>>147133871
Reread the Warband lore... All of it.
Battanians lost all their land and became forest bandits
>>147134005
>Keeping your penis out of them?
Do not ask for the impossible.
>>
>>147133989
With a fucking matchlocks?
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>>147134005
That's retarded
>>
>>147134069
The Wiccan Gods decided to turn back time and reward the ever-faithful Battanians with a champion that will help them reclaim all of their land.

Would be nice if you could take over an existing faction and become its king.
>>
>>147134125
Yeah I modded the shit out of it.
>>
>>147134210
I need to do this for myself now.
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>>147134203
Who says you can't? We still haven't really heard a lot about Bannerlord.
>>
>>147134280
Most of it's problems can be fixed with OpenBrf, Morgh's, TweakMB and Notepad++.
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>>147134069
Where can I find this Warband lore that you speak of?
I've played the game for 300 hours and still don't know anything
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>>147134435
Through companion conversations.
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>>147134435
>he doesn't know about the lost city of Zendar
>he doesn't know about Harlaus's Necromatic origins
>he doesn't know about Imperial Butter
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>>147134435
Companions and pretenders give you snippets, kings tell you a bit if you ask them about the pretenders.
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The Swadi clan will be a sub-faction you can support within the Vlandian faction.
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>>147134474
>>147134542
Thanks! I never really use companions so I guess that's why.
>>147134523
No bully
>>
Any mirror for Tweak bro blood and steel?
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ALL HAIL LORD KASTOR, TRUE KING OF THE RHODOKS, JUSTICAR OF THE REPUBLIC, AND CHAMPION AGAINST THE TYRANT GRAVETH
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>>147134523
>tfw you'll never save Zendar
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>>147134867
The only claimant worth a damn is Arwa the Pearled One, true ruler of the Sarranids.
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>>147135176
>carring about sandniggers
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>>147135286
Sarranids are the true heirs to the Empire. The second Calradian Empire, if you will.
>>
>there is only installer for blood and steel
This isn't begining very well
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>Going for a long range snipe
>Ymira walks in front of me just as I loose the arrow
I thought this shit only happened in shootan games
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>>147135474
Rodrick the Absolute Madman
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does it matter who I make my minister? what does it change?
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>>147135474
You're a mad cunt.
>>
Please explain the deep lore behind the undead and the dark knights
>>
>>147135598
You miss out on some diplomacy options if it's not a companion.
>>
>>147135598
Needs to be your wife or a companion or you miss out on options.
>>
>>147135660
>>147135748
do different companions/wives give different effects and options?
>>
>>147135830
No. Companions and a wive will give the same options, but a "prominent citizen" will have less options.
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>>147135376
the sarranid sultanate was the second zendar
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>tfw you beat off 30 naked men
>you only earn 250 denars
>>
When are we going to address the blatant racism in Swadia?
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>>147136175
Pic related
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>>147136175
Swadia needs to open its borders and dedicate museums to battling the xenophobia and racism in its history.
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>>147136096
What the FUCK
>>
>>147136096
Cheap bastards, that's less than nine (9) denars each.
>>
>>147136259
interestingly enough half of the names of lords and shit were originally the names of merchants/armourers/tavernkeepers/weaponsmiths in early beta versions when every npc had a name
I guess they also copied over the facecodes as well
>>
>>147136096
But think of all the hard cocks you can ride, you slut.
>>
Making the new thread.
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>>147136635
Better make it CoMM version
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>>147136635
WHERE IS IT
>>
>>147136635
Hurry up Anon-kun~
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>>147136635
I COULDVE HAD ANOTHER THREAD UP BY NOW YOU FUCK
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>>147136712
>>147136820
>>147136864
Someone else needs to make it. I got three errors from 4chan while trying to do it.
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>>147137015
>>147137015
>>147137015

Lets move boys
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