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/lozg/ - The Legend of Zelda General

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Welcome to the Legend of Zelda general. Talk about Zelda games old and new, and all discussions related to the entire franchise in its various forms. Share and discuss art, music, news developments, timeline theories, speedrunning strats, etc.

/lozg/ #9 - BIRD PUSSY Edition

>I never played a Zelda game, where should I start from?
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/best-zelda-game-for-new-players-to-start-with-a-brief-recommendation-guide.52290/

>List of Zelda games currently available on this gen's consoles
https://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide?pv=true#/filter/-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|zelda
3DS has the N64 Zelda remakes plus NES, SNES, GBC Virtual Console.
Wii U has the GC Zelda HD ports plus NES, SNES, N64, GBA, Wii and DS Virtual Console.

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin
http://pastebin.com/E8FjmmKD

More Zelda 1? Check Zelda Classic's romhacks:
http://www.zeldaclassic.com/

>News/Developments<

HWL Link's Awakening pack trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nGBVhOGWI [Embed]

Zelda prizes on MyNintendo
>Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc
>Link theme for 3DS:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/82df9c18e92f49fc
>Wind Waker HD coupon:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/5fcf540895787b91
>Bow and arrows for Miitomo:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/0254df5cf4af7f7a

TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule

TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/

Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west

BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine

BotW Known Item Stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6bbN74Bvbsm7nQ9TYDPhtM-DBXMADweKqKYTuaFG_I/edit?usp=sharing

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What would /lozg/ do if they had creative of the next Zelda game, assuming BotW didn't satisfy some of your mechanic-related must haves? Also the 3D zeldas could show a bit more love to past 2d titles. A 3D Zelda chock-full of 2DZ references (good ones) would be seriously comfy.


A simplistic idea but I would have an increase in the total mask number from what it was in MM. Or Runes if masks aren't your cup of tea.
The cool part however; is that I would also introduce the "Face Sword/Rune Sword/insert concept here". This guy would also double as the classic companion character. A sword that has a blank face on its guard that the various masks/runes in the game could be equipped to, giving it various powers and puzzle solving utilities. The game would be gloriously difficult in places where you had to nimbly switch between masks/runes both on Link and the sword in a very short span of time to use the very subtle effects each variety imparts in a given situation.
>One mask/rune to raise a cube of earth from the ground, then a fire mask/rune to strike only the left side of that cube (aim carefully), a time-slow mask/rune on Link so you can run to the other side before the fire runs out, and put the bunny hood/speed rune on the sword whose now-fast thrusts are the only thing that can hit every puzzle slot in time.
Have enemies in certain challenge modes/areas require things like this as well.
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>>147021132
Please no.
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I WANT TO FUCK FI
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>>147020803
>BIRD PUSSY Edition
you fucked it up anon.
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>>147021132
The best part; not only would you have unique masks/runes (you get the idea) different from MM (bring back the old must-haves of course) you'd also get to actually place the masks on your SWORD at the same time, granting you elemental transformations, puzzle-solving utilities, and other abstract stuff. Maybe replace the Ocarina by having a legendary "Bard Mask/RUNE" that you must aquire that you then place on your sword to gain the song making mechanic. Put it on Link to -learn- the various songs throughout the game. Put it on the sword to -play- the songs. You can even use 2 masks at once by equiping one on Link, one on the sword. Best part is that the Transformation masks (of which I'm thinking 5 instead of 3) will change the instrument depending on the race.
Heck even have the minor masks add these purely aesthetic aesthetic -slight- musical/visual alterations (or even with a tiny puzzle solving potential) to the base instrument. I also have an idea for another mask category other than transformation. 'Summon Masks'. The only one of which I have thought up is Midna's Fused Shadow. Putting it on summons Imp Midna. Put it on the sword; True Midna. Midna + Bard-Sword would even give her a Twili instrument to play instead of you.
This would be how the optional pick-a-companion thing some people are clamoring for would operate. Tons of waifu potential, had idea for a mechanic grill that would use a bunch of gadgets including a mortar to rain hell from, the back while you charge the front. Pretty much pic related.
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>>147021445
>>147021132
Could you stop posting this?

It's honestly pretty bad as an idea that only copies a mechanic already done and kills it entirely. Plus if what you want is for people to validate your idea, posting it on 4chan won't yield good results.

Give it a try on reddit or something
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>>147021445
Each summon character, lets use Midna as an example, would have two modes: contextual and companion (mask on Link and Sword respectively). Midna in Imp from would do her action like playing a Twili instrument among others then go away. Putting a Summon mask on Face would bring True Midna with dual Twili scimitars or some shit and would follow you "Hey I'll carry yo shit" style. May or may not deprive you of your sword, dunno.
There would be two special masks; one would be the Bard Mask and, surprise surprise, Majoras Mask. I plan on having Fierce Diety be the antag so a fun little gimmick in having the final mask you collect be obtained in the same way you got FD in MM would be kickass. You know everyone and their grandma wondered what it'd be like for Link to don Majoras Mask so now they can. It'd be limited where you could put it on but just boss battles was kinda gay so it could have rare uses in the creme-de-la-creme of sidequests, challange modes and puzzles.
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>>147021430
What about Mischievous Edition next time?
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>>147021672
What about farm girls edition next time?
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>>147007096
>Get Ravio from Lorule please.
He'd last five minutes tops before making a quick egress to the next parallel dimension. Ravio's adventures in Termina when.
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>>147021672

Guys

Guys

Where is tall Midna's left hand?

Even she has an appreciation for imp ass
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>>147021598
Gameplay discussion>lorefag discussion
At least he's asking for input and taking criticism.
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>>147021742
Farm girls you say?
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>>147021785
Look again dumbo, they're both on her face
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>>147021785

Aw fuck disregard that. I saw part of her outfit and thought it was her arm. Damn it.

Fucking Midna-induced boners blinding me
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>>147021785
It's by her face anon.
>>147021445
>>147021641
A neat idea, but I don't think it would personally fit very well in Zelda, at least not on a well enough level knowing Aonuma and the team.
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>>147021865
Not that shitter. More like these two
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>>147021980

yeah. I noticed that. >>147021895

Can you blame me? Both forms of Midna are very distracting.
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>>147021598
>reddit
I'll never
Face/Rune Sword is modular and has tons of potential. in my obviously biased opinon
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Maybe that "face" shit could be called the sword of souls or something, give it a good name, christ
you know, because the masks are souls
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>>147022071
>sword of souls

You made things worse.
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>>147022005
Hey, he's following in Grandpa Time/Shade's footsteps, don't hate.
>>147022036
No, I can't, though I much prefer normal Midna than imp Midna in terms of fucking, but both are fantastic.
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>>147021843
Discussing the gameplay of an """""idea""""" that at this point is old in these threads makes little sense. Specially when this """"idea"""" will only ever become real if the poster gets off his ass and makes a half-assed indie game.

>>147022051
It's a pretty bad idea and posting it every time we start a thread is stupid. Seriously, if you're so desperately in need of validation, there's a lot of places where this, which is on the level of bad fanfic, could be more acceptable to see.
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>>147020803
remember, those aren't bird feet, they are boots and pants
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>>147022051
I hated your idea before but "Runes" are a decent compromise for BotW.
>>147022071
Or this.
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>>147022223
NON CANON
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C
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>>147022071
>sword of souls
Too Soulsborne
How about Mask Sword?
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You're allowed to introduce other Link to BotW that is story-based as opposed to Wolf Link/Amiibo based.

Which Link do you choose?

SS Link
MC/FS Link
Oot/MM Hero of Time/Hero's Shade
ALttP/OoA/OoS/LA Link
ALBW/TH Link
LoZ/AoL Link
TP Link
FSA Link
WW/PH Link
ST Link

Note they may end up like the Hero of Time/Hero's Shade, maybe better off, maybe worse. Which do you pick, why, and how would they contribute to the story/gameplay?
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>>147021368
ME TOO
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>>147022414
Better
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>>147022630
Whatever that is, it is not Fi.

She's a slender girl, petite even.

I really hope this >thicc meme bullshit ends soon
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>>147022630
>posting the altered version
my nigga
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Does anyone have the picture of Princess Midna holding a petulant wolf puppy Link?

>>147022792
>any year
>not liking girls that have a little meat on them
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>>147022792
BROADSWORDS, ANON
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>>147022175
I'm not looking for validation but I'll agree that firstposting my pasta again is obnoxious, so I'll stop.
>>147021980
You might be right. Having just masks with essentially doubled use isn't a stretch for them. (none of that: use it once for a quest then done malarkey)
Remove some of that complex "Mask interplay" stuff I outline and it's barebones enough to seem feasible.
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>>147022989
>>not liking girls that have a little meat on them
I like that, however what people pass for "a little meat" nowadays goes well beyond that and into "disgustingly obesse" shit.

>>147023015
Blah blah ultragreatsword blah blah Fi straight sword, fuck you
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>>147021132
>>147021445
>>147021641
I like it
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>>147023154
You realize I'm going to keep posting every time I get a rise out of you, right?

Besides, there's a difference between having a huge gut and having huge hips and tiddies
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Best emulator on PC to play the Oracle games?
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>>147023098
While true, I feel as though they would relocate some of that to amiibo in a way. Like "you can summon, blah blah blah like Wolf Link, but amiibo only" Ya know?

I think it could definitely work in theory. It would have to be a bit subdued and probably work a little bit more like Materia mixed with the Mask System if you will. It could work, but you might run into the problem of "X dungeon is made for X and Y runes/masks" that MM largely has a problem with.
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>>147023421
I've always just used VisualBoyAdvance, never had a problem out of it whatsoever.
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>>147023367
Thicc is not hot, it's just fat. Also that is not even Fi.

>human eyes
>no cross pattern for legwear
>boobwindow
I could go on but you get the idea.
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>>147022563
MOAR WOLF LINK
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>>147023367
EYES
EYES
EYES
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So every video I've seen involving the guardians, I've noticed how the player always runs in and then it activates. Would that mean that they are triggered by the amount of noise you make? and would you be able to sneak right by them if that is the case?
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>>147022563
Hero of Twilight, if anybody is becoming another Hero's Shade, it's him.

I really want a game where he goes off to try and find a way to restore the Mirror just to see Midna again like how the Hero of Time went off to find Navi.

I think that concept could fit well enough story-wise, that he's willing to try and screw with time and technology to see her one last time and he can pass on the Hidden Skills he learned.
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>>147023367
Seriously, dude, nobody else here is into your obesity fetish. Take it to /d/.
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>We have two Wii U emulators going strong
>Still a year and a half until BotW
Dev. Dev like the wind!

https://youtu.be/qPqB2Hrj8mI
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>>147023742
They are, Bill Trinnen was playing once and actively sneaked around or climbed a wall, I forget which to try and avoid them.
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>>147023443
Having the masks have an ever-present minor effect (raise a cube of earth, time stop, ect) in addition to their sidequest completing function would solve that I think.
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>>147023947
>>We have two Wii U emulators going strong

CEMU and? I felt like playing TP and if I can emulate the HD remaster the better.

Also even if the game is playable by the time it's released, I'll still buy it, because so far the game deserves to be bought
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>>147023875
I'll be back!

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME!
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>>147023994
It could work from that point yeah. It'd be very similar to the Sheikah Slate, just with Mask benefits instead.
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>>147024048
decaf. Thing I linked.
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>>147023962
Oh shit really? I can't believe I missed that. Thanks anon, I'll try to look for that footage.
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>>147023853
Seriously, I'd have just jumped in after her

She has a duty to her people so she had to leave, but what does Link have? A handful of friends at home and no serious commitments or obligations
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>>147023853
>Hero of Twilight
Matpat pls, he is never called by that
I swear to Hylia if anyone calls the Royal Engineer "hero of trains" again I'll scream
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Wolf Link should be a follower in literally all Zelda games from now on. I am so happy.
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Is Majora the mask itself? I haven't actually played MM.
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I think my favorite thing about Legend of Zelda games is how simple the plot always turns out to be. Each game has its own story but the whole basis is straight Campbellian "Wake up, save the girl."
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Is the WW Link/King of red lions/Tetra/Medli DLC available on the Wii U?
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I don't have anything to say, but I wanna share this here music with you friends cause I likes it and I likes you.

https://youtu.be/YrpWBgB6oz8
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>>147024208
>TP link should be imprisoned as a wolf for all eternity and help out his other incarnations because it makes me happy

How cute.
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>>147024232
Majora is the spirit within the mask. Or the spirit of the mask, or something like that you kjnow
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>>147024158
Yeah, it might be proximity based, and I don't remember the exact video though sorry.
>>147024174
I guess he chose to stay for the sake of Hyrule. Child Timeline is depressing. We have one Link who got sent back from his dream of being a Hero only to become a bitter old dying fuck as he got older, one who stays behind just for the sake of his country despite everything being safe, and the other Link...well FSA Link is generally fine.
>>147024178
S-sorry anon, it's just fitting I find. I've given names to all of the Links like that, and no I don't call ST Link Hero of Trains, I call him the Hero of Spirits/Ghosts...i-is that better? ;_;
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>>147024048
>>147024132
Also, yeah. If the game is playable through emulator, I'll likely buy it. I want the game. I just don't have any interest in the hardware.
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>>147024343
>Not wanting to go on an epic quest with dog
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>>147024110
My favorite part of this is the Bard Mask (has a nice /tg/ ring to it) and how it works with sword. Centered around it really.I like the thought of having more than 3 transformation masks and therefore more than 4 instruments.
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>>147024468
I'll buy a NX assuming it isn't some gimmicky underpowered as fuck piece of shit
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>>147024343
Ah, not doing anything anyways
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>>147024338
Thanks mate, I love this kind of stuff
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>>147024526
>dog

HE'S A FUCKING WOLF GODDAMN IT
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>>147024343
You mean aiding his descendants when all of Hyrule is in need and ensuring their success and hanging out doing whatever the fuck else in the off-season?
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>>147024468
Can you though, I recall GCN/Wii TP having massive problems one you got to Faron Woods/Hyrule Field without plugins and shit, HD seems like it'd have some problems too.
>>147024541
Would they actually be different instruments with different functions or just like MM where it's still the Ocarina they just look and sound different really.
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You now realize the straw that broke the Hero of Time's back was Epona.

>The Kokiri no longer exist in the child timeline for whatever reason (meaning Saria is either dead or no longer herself as the Ancient Sage)
>Navi is gone for good and he never found her
>Zelda had Royal Duties and didn't care really
>Darunia and Ruto and he never became friends in that timeline since he was sent back before obtaining those so he could stop Ganondorf and even then they would have the same issues with Saria by being Sages
>Horses/Epona can only live so long
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>>147024730
HE'S A GODDAMN ADORABLE PUPPER IS WHAT HE IS
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How intelligent is Wolf Link supposed to be? I figured he had all of his human intelligence with extra instincts and a new body. But the way Aonouma described him in the BotW interview made him sound like almost entirely animal. I'm mostly unsettled with the hero of another game getting called a 'pet'

>>147024526
why so small
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>>147024765
Well in MM certain s required a specific instrument be played but I imagine that could be expanded upon a tiny bit. help me out; drawing a blank here
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>>147025082
He's intelligent in TP. Him in BotW is just a nice little feature, it's not meant to actually be TP Link.
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>>147025136
*certain situations required
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Am I the only one bothered by this blue tunic bullshit? I understand the idea of not having the iconic green tunic right from the start since there's gonna be different armor upgrades and shit, but come on. ALL of the merch and art so far has ALL been this dumb blue shirt.
It just ain't right.
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>>147025136
Do it like the Wind Waker and Ocarina.

Each instrument has a specific function differential of each other that can be used for puzzles or individual areas. One for instance may freeze water, another may harden magma/lava. Both could be used in congruence puzzle wise for an extended experience and a Bard Mask for instance could potentially summon all the instruments to be played in a quick specific order for puzzles.
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>>147025041
Magic Horse?
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Are you serious?

Nobody at E3 was scanning creatures using the gamepad? Why?

I think I remember seeing someone scan a Keese but can't seem to find it now.
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>>147025291
Nah, i'm completely fine with it. I mean it'll definitely be in the game so what's to worry about? If they completely removed it or didn't add it to the game, then that's something to complain about.
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>>147025291
We'll probably get the green tunic after the first dungeon honestly or right before it like TP, but it's stats being worse than say armor, but better than some cloth.

There is an outfit in the game that looks blue-green that is sort of similar to the Green Tunic in an odd way. Honestly I'm not bothered by it, I loved the Magic Armor in TP and have wanted actual armor in Zelda over the tunic for awhile now, so I'm glad I can switch it up for once. I like the Green Tunic, but I haven't really used it since I got the OoT Fire Tunic outside of WW/SS obviously.
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>>147025486
No anon, Epona dies eventually and he carries on the naming convention to his descendants in her memory.

Everything dies anon...and everything breaks down eventually, even you, the Hero.
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>>147024439
>Hero of Spirits
My autism is ok with that
>Train captcha
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>>147025291
I'm fine with the blue tunic because it looks an awful lot like WW Link's starting outfit, which would mean NG+ WW is canon and Link's pajamas become the new hero's tunic after he saves Hyrule

It is practically guaranteed that something ingame will resemble the green tunic, though. It's just too iconic.
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>>147025389
I like. They d to be kept rarer than using the mask and runes because, remember, you have to play the songs manually everytime and oversaturating puzzles and dungeons/overworld with it will kill the pacing.
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For LA I assume the best version is the GBC one right?
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>>147025824
The captcha is telling us something anon.
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>>147025953
*They need to
Fucking phone
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>>147025953
That is true, they'd only be used for say getting to the dungeon or a room in the dungeon. It got old in Stone Tower playing the Elegy of Emptiness. So think of like using the Wind Waker to get to Forbidden Woods.
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>>147025987
Only one I've ever played.
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>>147021765
I would buy it.
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>>147024730
>>147025076
HUEEY
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Has anyone have any videos of people collecting bird meat? Is it normal birds or bigger pheasant like?

Has anyone shot a squirrel yet?

What about the Eagles?
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>>147026480
Delete this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Xwor94G_I

If this song doesn't fucking play at some point during BotW then I can guarantee you it'll be shit
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>>147026742
It will be the dubstep version. Screen cap this
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>>147026742
>tfw hearing this the first time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO1bRg6GTDk
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>pick up my file on MM3D after a long hiatus
>run out of time before I can go compete the Zora egg quest
>end up playing with my instruments for minutes on end
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>>147025528
>>147025581
>>147025894
It's not that I'm worried it wont show up in the game. I'm sure it will.
It's that all the art for the game, including the box art, are blue tunic Link. All the merch is blue tunic Link, even the goddamn amiibos.
There will be nothing official made from this game showing Link in his iconic outfit.
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>>147026119
>>147025953
>>147025389
>>147025136
>samefaging this hard
Fuck of loser, nobody likes you
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>>147026907
>tfw once prepared to finish the Stone Tower and the boss
>tfw got Romani Milk
>tfw slowed down time
>tfw somehow dicked around enough to the point I only had half a day left
>tfw ran out of magic before the Light Arrow Giant mini-boss in Stone Tower
>tfw forgot I had Romani Milk and reset the days

I will never forget my child stupidity for that.
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>>147026867
You see, that alone is why TP is the best fucking 3D zelda game
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>>147026950
I'm sure we'll get some Amiibos of it once we officially see it.
>>147026985
pic related
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>>147027034
Shhh, the SS fags will hear you
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>>147026985
>smuganimugrill.jpeg
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>>147026742
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>>147026742
>tfw this was in TP
i came
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With all this technology/magitek/whatever the fuck you wanna call it, do you think BotW will have Sheikah guns?
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>>147027505
No, guns are dangerous and evil. You don't want our children to become the next Hitler, do you?
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>>147027320
Fuck Fast Travel.
That's what horses are for.
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>>147027505
OR WE CAN HAVE THE GUN MASK
if they did, please keep it to muskets
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>>147027320
I really fucking hope fast travel is locked until halfway through the game at least

Just give me fun ways to get across the map
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>>147027505
>the crossbow from LCT comes back
>hawkeye from TP is like a scope sight
>epona
>the hidden viliage comes back
i want a spaghetti western Zelda so bad
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>>147027692
I'm loving your mask autism anon.
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>>147027685
>>147027780
How would you return to the great plateau? And fast travel is only for towers of resurrection and shrines
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>>147027816
>i want a spaghetti western Zelda so bad
I hope we get a Duster, a Poncho and a hat in the game
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>>147027881
But that's the frog mask.
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>>147027649
If Hillary wins, this won't be bait anymore.
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>>147027897
You don't need to get back until halfway through the game
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>>147027907
Pretty sure it was shown in the Western portion of the trailer actually. Or at least the hat was one of those poofy like llama hats.
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>>147027997
wut
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>>147027505
It won't have actual guns but maybe something akin to them so that it doesn't upset kiddies and their parents. Something like a mini-laser canon is possibility.
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What would you faces be if this plays during the battle with Calamity Ganon as you scale Hyrule Castle to fight fight him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0BRNmdDKU
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>>147028162
Its a bit of a stretch for the joke but you get the idea I hope.
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When you realize a non-WW-style Vaati would be fucking badass
pls ninty pls put him in botw
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>>147028530
I'm surprised he's not in HW honestly.
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>>147027780
they don't force you to use it you know
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>>147028657
He definitely deserves to be.
I'm also surprised /lozg/ doesn't gush over him they way it does Link.
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>>147028420
This would be my face
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>>147028420

I want to fight Ganon wielding a trident again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUCUSCENalY
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LINK AND RAVIO CO-OP DLC (WITH RETAIL VERSION LIKE LUIGI U) FOR BOTW

WOULD YOU?
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>>147028971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl98PiDeHY4

I want to fight this again, I loved his animalistic nature. Trident would be cool too though.
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>>147028657
>>147028813
Sadly the only DLCs still planned are for LA, PH & ST, and ALBW.
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What happened with Ghirahim anyways?
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>>147030116
Sealed inside the Dark Master Sword/Demon Sword. Like Fi, he'll eventually cease to exist as time goes on.
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>>147030327
>Like Fi, he'll eventually cease to exist as time goes on.
Don't say that. They just can't go and kill Fi can they?

She's perfect
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>>147030472
Yes, yes they can.
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>>147030472
Fi basically died at the end of Skyward Sword. Don't expect her in Botw.
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>>147024232
Presumably it's whatever evil was in the mask but it's not entirely clear. MM was very ambiguous, most things were only implied, a lot of it is up to personal interpretation until the team gives us concrete explanations (and even when they have, they still try to keep it vague to preserve the mystery of it all).
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>>147030935
Is that the Mask Guy behind the mask?
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>>147030885
>Fi basically died at the end of Skyward Sword
No. No she didn't.
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>>147031083
Her consciousness did, she says so herself.
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>>147031242
Whatever man, if it comes to it, I'll just resurrect her and that'll be that
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>>147029045
Player 2 controls Doggy Link confirmed
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>>147031050
That's what I thought when I was a kid, it always made me wonder.
>Hacking into Majora's Mask 3D files reveals that the face models used for the children is that of the Happy Mask Salesman. In the original game, their faces had no texture.
That change has to be intentional, right? What does it mean though.
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>>147031380
I don't dislike her, in fact I'd be really happy if she had a cameo in Botw, but we need to keep our expectations in check.
The fact that they kinda killed her off at the end of SS and that fans didn't like her very well, make her chances of appearing really low.
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do I really have to find the charts for the triforce in WW?, cant I just look at a guide and go for the pieces directly?
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>>147032182
I take it, that specific screen you posted, is that everyone has a mask on, the Happy Mask Salesman for instance is a Mask, his real face is that of Majora's creation.

Why did he want the mask so badly? Sure he's a Salesman and it had magic properties but he wasn't going to sell it. Maybe Majora housed his soul and he wanted it back. Just the same as Fierce Deity is actually the Hero of Time's soul, his mask, he's a brave godlike warrior. It could lead some credence to how the Hero of Time becomes so bitter that nobody was worthy enough for his skills or why he's not remembered as a hero, people only see him for the mask that we see, a young child/adult, not this brutal godlike warrior he really is.

I don't know, just a shitty and base theory, likely Nintendo just did it because they were lazy and quickly used a model.
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>>147032765
You need the charts, otherwise the treasure doesn't show up.
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>try to look up some Medli porn
>upwards of %95 of it is Loli shit

Fucking hell
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>>147032765
Don't be a little bitch and just enjoy the music, the comfy and the adventure.

Don't forget to literally be a jew and pick EVERY SINGLE RUPEE

Also I hope you're playing the original, since the HD version bastardizes that quest
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>>147033020
yeah im emulating it on dolphin, great game and fun, finding the charts is kind of a pain in the ass tough
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>>147032941
It's not like Midna, man

Medli was never not a loli
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>>147033112
It's just another segment in the game, I liked it.

I mean, some charts require you to beat mini dungeons like the one in the shack, others require you to beat several floors with monsters, or several rooms with them. Some charts require you to bash your head against the wall to remember which fucking pot takes you forward instead of backwards, some are just quick puzzles, one is finding the motherfucking ghost ship which took a friend so long he just lent me the game and I beat it before him, because I discovered how to find the ship before him.

I don't know man, I really liked that part of the game.
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>>147030472
They'll kill off Fi because most people didn't like her.

However, I can see them bringing back Ghirahim since he received a lot of positive reception - especially with fangirls and fujos.
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>>147033020
Thank god for the HD version bastardizing it. WW is in my top 3 games of all times, but that fetch quest sucks.
>>147033112
Someone gives you a chart that has them all on it and where to find all the charts.

Also when you get the chart on Outset in the Floor Dungeon, keep going after you get the chart, do it all, you get a heart piece, and don't worry about rupees, you usually get enough when you pick up the chart to take it to Tingle. If not just run around on Windfall smashing pots 2-3 times, you'll get enough.
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>>147033313
>Ghost ship

Don't you literally get a chart that tells you where it's going to be depending on the phase of the meuwn?
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>>147032780
I think the theory is a bit of a stretch but it's fun to extrapolate from what the games give you so I won't judge.
>Nintendo just did it because they were lazy and quickly used a model.
I'm pretty sure it was on purpose, even if they reused assets they still had the time to make new models for pretty minor characters. They would have made time for important endgame characters so it must have been an intentional decision.
>>147032765
The HD version shortens it by a lot.
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>Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks Pack
To be released in September.

LINEBECK HYPE

Also is Tetra/Medli and all the others available on the Wii U?
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>>147033567
Well the only other theory I can think of, and this makes a lot more sense is that the Lunar Children and personalities are based on people that Majora has had personal contact with.

>Look like Happy Mask Salesman and they all wear Masks
>Run around playing and having fun (4 children/giants and majora/skull kid)
>Talks about how what you like others may not like (skull kids mischievous side)

You get the point, could just be his interactions with people and how it's beginning to develop a consciousness.
>>147033547
You do, I don't think it's necessary though, I don't recall.
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>>147029045
I would a Ravio.
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>>147033547
Yeah but I was 9 or 10 when I played that my first time, and didn't even speak English or much of it at that time. So you'll have to cut me some slack for taking some time to figure out that the chart was of some random islands and even longer to even think of opening it during the night.

>>147033502
>that fetch quest sucks.
I don't know how you can even think that, please read >>147033313


Oh and before you >nostalgia me. I've replayed the game several times much more recently and still love it.
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>>147033547
Yes you do.
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>>147033785
Part of me wishes I wasn't born in an english country so I had the drive to learn another language

When you know English already, what's another huge international language that produces a shittonne of media you should learn the language to experience?

Japanese? I guess? I don't much care for anime or the aggressively JAPANESE DESU SEMPAI shit so it almost feels like wasted effort
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>>147033785
I still love the game too anon, and I played it not long ago again myself. I just can't stand it. The Ghost Ship, Cabana, Outset Island Dungeon, all that's great. But going around having to fish out a Shard from like the cannon islands, I just can't stand that personally, or having to constantly talk to Tingle to decipher them, it's annoying to me.

WW is a fantastic game that I will always love and continue to replay like a lot of games I love, but that part is just annoying to me, I don't like it. I wouldn't find it so bad if I didn't have to talk to Tingle constantly.
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>>147033885
That was the most cryptic piece of chart I had ever opened in any game

>>147033906
You've no idea. Every game was an adventure because you had no fucking clue where to go or what to do except for hints, but even then you where learning small bits of english here and there and it did help me out in the end when we started learning in school.
In regards to media, japan is obviously a good option, but if you don't care for anime, manga or VNs then there's not much point.
Might want to look into other type of media, like just indie films or books and learn german or french or something.

>>147034007
I get your point, in any case the HD version just changes those pieces that you need to fish for the chart and then fish for the piece into only fishing for the piece right from the start, right?
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>>147033739
Yeah, that theory makes more sense. I used to think the moon children were real and actually were beings living on the moon but something I read recently suggested that the moon and the moon children were created by Majora, I can't remember what it was though.
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>>147034286
>That was the most cryptic piece of chart I had ever opened in any game
Yes it is, I usually just got lucky and stuck around the islands I knew for sure and changed the time of day enough.
>I get your point, in any case the HD version just changes those pieces that you need to fish for the chart and then fish for the piece into only fishing for the piece right from the start, right?
I believe so yeah. I don't exactly recall.
>>147034343
Yeah I always assumed it was some weird inner world of Majora full of peace and goodness because it thought it was that way, hence why it wants to play Hide'n'seek with Link and makes him the seeker/Oni, which is weird based on the screen you posted in terms of that.
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>>147034286
>German or French
I really wanted to learn German and I have some French but both those countries seem to want to commit cultural suicide
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>>147034581
>he doesn't speak spanish, english and german already
Also every single european country ruled by Merkel is in that position. Which will eventually lead into WW3 if the pressure is not blown off in a referendum to leave the EU
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>>147034707
But the instability of the EU is leading crazy lefties to want to actually, unironically, end democracy when the decision is "wrong" and now the EU talking about going ahead and making its own army to enforce its will upon member states
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>>147034581
>>147034707
>>147034801
/pol/ fascists get out
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>>147034970
>facists
Please, we're just making fun of retards who think everyone shares their feelings and when they realize it's not like that start making up all sorts of excuses for why they didn't win.

Have a cute link burning everything
Which is how europe is going to end
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Hey guys, shut the fuck up about politics and listen to this, my uncle's dad works at Nintendo and he gave me a sneak peek at the upcoming Zelda game, particularly the new companion character and i wanted to share it with you. Meet Wilson, Link's precious friend.
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>>147034970
>Pointing out that getting rid of democracy just because the majority votes incorrectly is wrong is fascist
Antifa, please
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>>147035227
Looking good there Marin
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>>147035227
>Tfw in a couple weeks you'll literally be an uncle who works at Nintendo
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>>147033592
>LINEBECK HYPE
Fuck yes. Most underutilized character. If only he could have been in one of the main games.
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>>147033785
Nostalgia doesn't go away just by revisiting something, I'm not sure where you got that idea.
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>>147037134
God that is beautiful. I can't wait to delve into it and go murder happy on Calamity Ganon.
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>>147037134
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>>147037134
>>147037261
Reminds me of Malificent's Castle or at least the trek to it for some reason.
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>>147037134
Aren't there 7 of those monoliths based on the trailer/gameplay but 4 mostly visible?
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>>147037134
>>147037261

Looks like it's on a displaced hunk of land that was dropped into a given location, kind of like the starting plateau.
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>Just bought Triforce Heroes
>Have been waiting in the lobby for half an hour
I-Is this game already dead?
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>>147037724

Calling it now - it's some OoT deal where you have to power the 7 monoliths in some way so that you're granted access to enter the castle. Like how you needed to find and summon the 7 sages to form that rainbow bridge.
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>>147038508
>tfw failed Hero of Time
>tfw you must re-awaken the Sages once more so they can seal Ganon
>tfw backstory is getting retconned
Saria is a Korok now
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>>147037134
Clearly the castle can start flying any moment.
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>>147037910
There was the idea of creating a /lozg/ group of play for TH but nobody with the game bothered starting it and sharing friend codes.
I don't own the game yet so I can't do anything.
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>>147020803
>/lozg/ #9 - BIRD PUSSY Edition
MEDLI IS NOT FOR SEXUAL
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>>147038589
Kokiri were just koroks taking on a human form because the Deku Tree probably told them too. For Link's sake, so that he wouldn't feel even more isolated or left out.
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>>147039449
Yeah but imagine the Hero of Time running into her again and being confused. His life is destroyed in two timelines, all his friends becoming Sages or different than what he knows. Navi leaving again. Epona dying again.

The Shade Persists.
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>>147039449
>Kokiri were just koroks taking on a human form
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>147039661
It's fairly apparent that they're a race of shapeshifters. The Koroks and the kikwi are enough proof to confirm such.
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>>147039449
When is that stated? Why would fairies be an essential part of Kokiri if Koroks don't have them?
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>>147039830
Simple.

The Lost Woods were horribly cursed, and that wasn't the case for the Forbidden Woods in WW. It seems like the dark magic of the Lost Woods faded over time if TP's Faron Woods are any indication. Then again, it's almost as if most of the magic from the woods faded out in general, with Kokiri likely going extinct and the Deku Tree dying out.
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Reminder
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Fairies die when nobody believes in them.
Don't forget Tingle doesn't exist in TP.
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So anyone else think its very likely that BoTW takes place in the downfall timeline based on the sole fact that it's the only split that doesn't have some sort of post-OoT console sequel going for it ?
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>>147040354
Well I think it takes place there but not for that reason, though it is a good one. Mostly dealing with the overlay of OoT with BotW, Temple of Time, and there is a very large gap of possibilities there.
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>>147039449
>>147039995
Where are you getting this shit from? This guy never even met OoT Link, he has no reason to take human form, the Kokiri just evolved.
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>>147040354
Someone does.
>Timeline speculation pastebin
http://pastebin.com/agFH98VZ
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>>147040641
>Where are you getting this shit from?
Timefuckery
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>>147021430
I wish that i could fuck it up. i fapped to medi in ww
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>>147021598
He is taking it a lot better than when he is talking about lore. I say let him do it
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The castle seem big enough to be fully explorable.
>That curvy road to reach the gates
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>>147041043
Hold on, there's a guy there
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>>147040765
Well tone it down a bit you crazy fucker.
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>>147041043
>running up the road as Ganon tries to ram you off the sides
>>147041194
It's the Old Man.

This doesn't give me much hope though from that leaker guy saying there were only 4 Dungeons, matches up with those things.
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>>147022414
The Maskter Sword.
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>>147041338
We went through this many times.
4 dungeons is not bad if you consider that: they might be very big and hard to complete; there are a whole lot of smaller dungeons, the shrines; the overworld itself might as well be a big dungeon; MM had 4 dungeons too and yet people love the game.
Quality>Quantity
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Request posting of chibi Fi. Lewd or not, just make it chibi.
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>>147041194
HYPE
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>>147041563
I'm not saying 4 is bad, just that, they've spent so much time on all the shrines and the worlds that they only did 4 dungeons worries me, they might not have spent as much time on them as they did everything else is all.
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So I know they said they're focusing on a solely single player experience for BotW (uhh, somewhere), but what if the other Amiibos functioned like this:
>Guardian Amiibo allows you to enter another person's game as an enemy (they check the setting saying it's okay)
>One of the other Amiibos (let's say horse) allows you to enter another person's game as an ally
Yes, it's totally ripping off Dark Souls, but screw that Co-Op Links has never sounded better than in BotW.
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>>147041697
I might draw a chibi Fi later.
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>>147025824
Hero of Tracks/Wagons
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>>147024765
I believe they fixed TP in the newest Dolphin version that got released a couple of days ago.
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>>147042049

>this is how Nintendo will add multiplayer functionality to BoTW
>the price of these amiibo will skyrocket
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>>147025987
Yes it is. It's the same thing but with more color.
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>>147042364
Eh, it'll probably turn out more like the Yarn Yoshi amiibos, where each one is made in enough numbers to not warrant price hiking.
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To the anon that will end up making the new OP.

Recommend people to read the thread while listening to Zelda OST, preferably something chill

Like this one that was posted earlier.
https://youtu.be/fO1bRg6GTDk
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>>147042165
The Hero of Chu-Chus
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>>147028813
Well. Fanart of him tends to be edgy emo. And we are mostly around the 25 years of age. We already are long past the emo phase.
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>>147042563
This is the best version of OoT's title theme, hands down. Gets me in a mood whenever I listen to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yElKCP-cz5U
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>>147033547
The Ghost Ship quest is very nice.

I remember being scared after randomly coming across the ghost ship before the triforce quest.

They should make that entire segment ghost ship related and expand on it. Make it harder.
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>>147033906
>what's another huge international language that produces a shittonne of media you should learn the language to experience?

Japanese
Chinese
German
Russian

I'd say roughly in that order.
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>>147043049
>They should make that entire segment ghost ship related and expand on it. Make it harder.
Hell if the ice and fire dungeons were cannibalized for Twilight Princess, the HD remake should have made a ghost ship dungeon instead
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>>147039830
It is stated in the fucking game were Koroks fucking appear. How can you be so dense?
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>>147041194
Those are trees...
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>>147042071
Please do. I really like the chibi Fis
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>>147041338
>This doesn't give me much hope though from that leaker guy saying there were only 4 Dungeons, matches up with those things.

Doesn't help that the official art confirms 4 monoliths as well.

>>147041563
Nah, it's bad.
If the side quests and shrines end up being recycled and padded shit, then this game is going to be a disaster.
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Came across some Hero's Shade arguing in the last thread.


Before Hyrule Historia, wasn't it clear that the Hero's Shade was filled with regret because he didn't have an heir to pass on his knowledge to? Like, doesn't he pretty much just say it? Right here?
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>>147042914
Very nice.
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>>147043226
Even more so because the game never had that really epic part that should be focused on sailing.
which the quest for the triforce shoudl've been, but that was half-assed as hell
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>>147043825
Yes.

But Hyrule Historia retconned it so just go with it. Even if it sounds retarded, just go with what the book says, like most blind fans.
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>>147042563
>>147042914
I don't think "recommending music" should really be in an OP. Feel free to post it as one of the first replies, but I don't think "All this information you wanna know + this music some guy says is the best track" is very fitting.
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>>147043825
Yes. He was sad because he never fucked and had children.
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>>147043918
>the book fucked one thing
>it is entirely wrong

This and Fi's arms (which can be debatable, her cape thing could be what it was referencing) are the only things that come to mind. Everything else is speculation.
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>>147043226
>>147043893
They did expand on the Ghost Ship concept in Phantom Hourglass. Full dungeon and everything.
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>>147044036
What's wrong with Fi having arms? I had assumed she had arms for a while into the game, anyway.
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>>147043954
No. I didn't say to put an specific music. Just that people should read it while listening. The music i posted was just an example of what kind of OST they should hear.
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>>147043834
How about another one? This is a great variation of Wind Waker's Dragon Roost Isle theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7feDYo4UI
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>>147044093
Some anon was shitting on HH for saying that it stated Fi had arms when she clearly didn't. It is the Timefuckery guy, whom most likely is that >>147043918 guy.
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>>147044093
Because she never had them in SS, I'd imagine

Arms would take away from the crossguard idea that her limb design was taken from
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>>147044141
Who the fuck is timefuckery guy? Because I sure as hell know I'm not him.
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>>147044218
The fanactic defender of the Downfall Timeline that despises the Hyrule Historia in absurd levels.
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>>147044283
How can someone hate Hyrule Historia but defend the cop-out bullshit that is the downfall timeline?
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>>147044330
I'd like to elaborate more on it. But he may get triggered and start a discussion again later on. So yeah, let's leave it at that.
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>>147044094
I know, but I still don't think we should recommend music in the OP, if only because it'll take more time for someone to grab an appropriate track (new threads have been sneaking up on us).

>>147044141
>>147044217
My point is I had assumed she had arms long before people were complaining that the Historia said she did. And they wouldn't take away from the crossguard idea since her sleeves still have the design and crossguards aren't notoriously flimsy/bendy.
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>>147044283
>>147044330
I'm fairly certain we have multiple people you guys are confusing for one person. We've got:

The diehard Downfall Timeline theorist.

At least one vehement hater of the Hyrule Historia and several who agree to varying extents.

One person who holds the Historia as the most definitive canon and is VERY taken aback by the extreme dissenter(s).

One epic memer with a timefuckery agenda and at least 2-3 anons who are amused by "timefuckery."
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>>147044674
>crossguards aren't notoriously flimsy/bendy.
That doesn't matter in character design. What matters is form
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>>147044862
what the fuck is this timefuckery meme
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>>147044862
I'll try to pay attention later
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>>147044862
>>147045004

I'm somewhat certain that timefuckery began with the Downfall Theorist. He used it to explain how the Hero couldn't have been defeated by Ganon.
He continued to use the term to some extent up until people me started calling out on it.
but i'm not the guy that forces timefuckery in unrelated stuff that makes me quite sad actually
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>>147031380
autism.
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>>147042049
I thought we would get miiverse integration. But Aonuma shitting on the gamepad made me less sure about it.
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>>147045198
I feel like if it was started relating to the downfall guy, it was someone else explaining what he pointed out were plotholes as being the result of "timefuckery."
It's a fun term, but he's gonna run it into the ground.
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>>147044862
The hilarious thing is that those that hate the meme talk about it more than those that like it.
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>>147031380
She can only be resurrected through intercourse.
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>>147020803
Post more adult Medli
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>>147045981
It doesn't exist, anon
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>>147046072
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>BotW animations are bad
You guys are nuts.

T. Animation student
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>>147046861
In reality we said that Zelda animations are bad.
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>>147042049
I would genuinely only use the guardian amiibo because all I would be doing was entering people's games randomly to fuck with people.

But alas, it'll never be. Though BotW griefing videos would be entertaining to me.

Like just imagine the possibilities.

>Go to someone's world and just randomly start a giantass fire destroying a fuckton of resources and leave.
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>>147046965
>buying stuffs on the side to play multiplayer. That is retarded. It doesn't only sounds to be ripping off souls multiplayer but also making it worse.
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>>147047143
>I played Dark Souls offline
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Soulsfags, get out.
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>>147032310
>that fans didn't like her very well,
Do people really dislike Fi? I always see people saying good things about her character, the people bitchong about her are actially complaining about the her tutorials wich are a given with any Zelda companion nowadays.
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>>147047143
Fucked it up.
>>buying stuffs on the side to play multiplayer.
That is retarded. It doesn't only sounds to be ripping off souls multiplayer but also making it worse.
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>>147047437
Listen, the fags that go "Zelda should be more like dark souls!" can go fuck themselves.

But if you're lumping all souls people with those idiots you should consider having a drink.

>>147047465
Tbh ALBW already did it ALBEIT they were basically completely optional. And i also think you could only find dark links in the overworld.
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>>147047548
I didn't play ALBW. Didn't play any mobile Zelda since NDS
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>>147047629
>mobile
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>>147049291
Well, he's not technically wrong.
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>>147050041
Mobile means phone. You can't call someone with a handheld.
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>>147050309
Mobile means "something that moves".
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>>147050387
"mobile game" means something you play on a smartphone.
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>>147050562
"Mobile game" means a game that has legs and is fully capable of independent locomotion.
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>>147050309
>>147050562
It's semantics. I understand that you are being wary of uber-casualized "mobile [app] gamers" but you are being all but literally autistic right now.
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>>147045802
>She can only be resurrected through intercourse.
Well guys, looks like I'm bringing back Fi at full force
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>>147051143

Sword handle up the ass
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>>147051221
>handle
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>>147051254
hilt. whatever. enjoy being pommeled deep in your rectum
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>>147051221
We've been through this

She's the spirit of the sword and has her own separate physical form which is clearly that of a girl and not a fucking sword.
So yeah, you can fuck Fi.

I mean you could fuck the sword too, but what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>147051334
No, I'm saying the hilt isn't what he takes up the ass.
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>>147051437
ew
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>>147051437
He doesn't know that a sword has a blade
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>>147051337
Have we? I've never personally been through this with you. I don't know if that anon has ever been through it with you, either.
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>>147051668
I don't want to be through with it with him. I wanna be through it with Fi. A chib Fi, if possible.
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>>147051742
>A chib Fi, if possible
You're... a pedo-swordophile? Would she be a dagger?
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>>147051921
Ephebospattophile. A shortsword please.
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>>147052038
>not being ephebophile
Pleb
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>>147052116
I am. The spatta was meant to be like sword in latin. source, my ass.
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>>147052038
Ephebo is normal Fi (she's supposed to look 14-15). Pedo is chibi-Fi. Though a dagger blade will be much easier on your ass, I guess.
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>>147052310
Chibi is not really loli, you know.
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>>147050991
>Uses words impropely
>ur the autist lel
Sure champ. You sure told me.
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>>147052279
Oh what a bad ""joke"". But nice taste
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>>147041697
>>147043605
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Chi-Fi
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>>147052831
Too wide thicc. But you got something going there.

>>147052907
PERFECT
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>>147053115
>You can sneak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAHk0g-Nfk
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>>147020803
Slowpoking like fuck, but I literally just found out about the second round of Hyrule Warriors DLC.

Holy shit, Medli-fags and Marin-fags must've spent the last two months ruining their pants. Y'all must be either the best of friends are the bitterest of enemies. Sincere congratulations.

Now if only Nintendo would pander to us Ashei-fags...
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>>147054182
>Ashei-fags
Such a thing exists?
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>>147054182
What? I know nothing about this. I only like Medli.
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>ONLY 22.4 MILLION SECOND UNTIL BREATH OF THE WILD RELEASES
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>>147054182
But still no fucking Vaati for some reason
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>>147055024
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>>147054428
>Such a thing exists?
Yeah.

>>147055090
The villains are pretty severely outnumbered. Vaati is the perfect choice to bolster their forces. He's fairly popular, he has a high potential for moves, and damn near everyone is demanding his inclusion. Bryne seems like he'd fit well too, just to throw that out there.

Though the 2D games could also use a villain rep. Not sure who though. Veran, maybe?
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>>147055529
Vaati *is* a 2D villain.
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>want to play 2D zelda games
>Dpad on my controller sucks ass now

Shit, what are some cheap controllers for PC with good dpads and playstation stick placement? I tried using my wiimote, but it seems like only dolphin will work with it
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>>147055689
A PS3 controller?
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where the hell is Twinrova damnit
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>>147055671
Hurrr. Sorry, the Wind Waker artstyle made me forget. Seems I'm kind of a fuckin' idiot.
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>>147055689
Just use the analog stick.

Also rock candy controllers are cheap, the 360s ones last quite awhile, PS3 ones don't know, just fair warning, they're like $15-20 or some shit.
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>>147056323

>using an analog stick in a 2D game
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>>147055689
>>147056403
Why not use the arrow or WASD keys? Traditional arcade-style that bitch up!
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>>147056403
Do it.
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>>147056481

That's acceptable. Back in my younger days when I couldn't just buy a PC gamepad, I used WASD for movement and the arrow keys for actions.

This also worked well on SNES games because I could use right CTRL and 0 on the numpad as L and R
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>>147055689
http://onakasuita.org/wii/index-e.html

Don't buy something if you can just use what you have. Sadly ps stick placement and good dpads don't exist.
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So, hypothetically speaking, if Linkle actually was an incarnation of Link, would she have a Master Sword? Or would Fi just turn into a crossbow or a pair of boots?
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>>147056697
She could find Ghirahim and use him. Of course he'd be reluctant as fuck but their dynamic could work. And if you tell me it's an EVUL sword, then yeah but through the game she purifies him or some bullshit
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>>147056697
The Master Bayonet
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>>147052310
Less an 15 is hebe 15-19 is ephebe
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This link does things to my penis
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>>147057008
>EVUL sword
That's not really a problem. Evil sidekicks are great. He could constantly whisper in her ear to kill people and set stuff on fire.

>>147057112
That works too. I do wonder though of alternate Fis take the form of different weapons. There's probably a Master Axe, Master Spear, Master Mace, Master Gauntlet, Master Bow, etc...
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>>147057706
>and set stuff on fire.
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>>147055838
>Where the hell is Twinrova, damnit?
In the desert with Nabooru and the rest of the Gerudo.

Dammit, Nintendo, STOP IGNORING THEM. You have a race of desert amazons who work for the series' main villain, and yet you refuse to use them. Fuck you.
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>>147058105
>You have a race of desert amazons who work for the series' main villain, and yet you refuse to use them.
>who work for the series' main villain

From a company standpoint, I honestly would just ignore them to avoid conflict with the very vocal sjw groups. If they reworked them perhaps it could work, but otherwise you're just asking for them to get vocal on you
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>>147058105
Sheikah tech is focused on in BOTW
the Gerudo will be the focus of the next major game
we won't get it until sometime after 2020
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>>147058181
>assuming the Japanese care about foreign sjws
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>>147058181
Fuck and your projection faggotry. There's nothing offensive about the Gerudo. It's made exceedingly clear that as a whole, they do like like being villains, and only follow Ganondorf out of fear or cultural obligation. Stop making shit up, you rat raping faggot.

I swear, literally everything comes back to the SJWs with you slack-jawed retards. If you love sucking on Tumblr so much, go back there and try to win back that girl who rejected you. Or just kill yourself. In fact, just kill yourself.
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>>147058181
All they have to do to rework the Gerudo is give them more personality than 'sexy dark-skinned thieves' and stop making them the enemy every time they're ingame. I want to be able to walk through Gerudo streets and trade and barter for their stolen goods, or talk to NPCs and do quests for them like we have for nearly all the other races in Hyrule.
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>>147058181
Gerudo are already poised to be hated by sjws because of the whoel "Man born only every hundred years who then"becomes the absolute ruler" thing.
>Nintendo is perpetuating muh patriarchy
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When will the Hyrule Warriors Legends Majora DLC be available for filthy pirates like me?
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>>147058583
You just had to wrestle with the very real notion that the left ruins everything they touch and you didn't like it didn't you?
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>>147046861
They are bad.

>attention to detail =/= animation quality.

You can just tell that Link's running animation is recycled from TP/SS and the combat animations between him and other enemies are stiff or floaty as fuck. Often, they aren't smooth and they lack weight.

T. Animator
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>>147058735
>stop making them the enemy every time they're ingame
Yeah, cause they were totally bad guys in Four Swords Adventures...

With you on the other stuff though. But only after you've spent the first half of the game fighting them as Ganondorf's reluctant army.

>>147058805
>"Man born only every hundred years who then"becomes the absolute ruler"
Which, again, is something they obviously don't like. They all hate Ganon being in charge. Just shut the fuck up already.
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>>147059142
>Just shut the fuck up already
What the fuck is up your craw?
I'm not who who you were talking to either
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>>147059053
First they free the niggers and now this. When will it end?!
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>>147059315
I don't give a flying fuck who you are, I'm fed up with absolutely everything on this shitsucking website being about a bunch of retarded nerds bitching about "HA BLOO HOO HOO, DA SJWS RUIN EVERYTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING HA BLOO HOO HOO! HA BLOO HOO HOO!".

I just wanted to talk about the hot desert amazons who could be easily made into sympathetic villains, but noooooo. Are you entirely incapable of discussing things without eventually coming back to bitching about your fucking boogeymans? Every goddamned day with this shit. I don't even care if it's true. Enough already.

>>147059053
Kill yourself, faggot.
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>>147059053
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>>147020803
Can i drink tea from between Medli's toes? Those are just boots aright?
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>>147059753
>expecting normal thought from /pol/ fascists ruled by their emotions
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>>147059753
>>147059767
You're solidly butthurt and what you're saying isn't even decent on top of it.

>sympathetic villians
And did you i consider, just MAYBE, that someone would like to discuss an opposing viewpoint? Maybe someone likes the notion that the Gerudo are perfectly evil?
How fucking likely is it that a goddamn pirate culture is good at the end of the day?
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>>147060225
They may be good at bed.
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>>147059753
>bitching about your fucking boogeymans?
>I don't even care if it's true.

Well gee, disregarding things because it hurts your feelings isn't a good idea. Gerudo could be made into an interesting tribe. But you have to accept the fact that if they were to be added to a game like they are, without reworking them, would just cause a huge backlash from current gaming """"journalism"""" and other groups.
I mean if only stating that there won't be a female link option gave people enough reason to be little bitches then a whole tribe of women who work under a man they revere as a deity is not going to bode well with their ideologies.
I mean, for all I care just make them his harem and be done with it, but as a company things are slightly more complicated than that.
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>>147060495
This. This is perfectly reasonable discussion about the realties and feasabilities of the game series we are discussing.
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>>147060727
You like your phrases with complicated words huh? You wouldn't like if i começasse a falar em português e tu não conseguisse mais entender o que eu falo, hein? É vai se fuder.
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>>147060225
>Maybe someone likes the notion that the Gerudo are perfectly evil?
That would make someone a boring faggot who wants the pathetic excuse for a story thing franchise has to remain a uninteresting paint by numbers slog of dead ideas. Maybe that hypothetical person ought to go fuck themselves.

>>147060495
Again, I don't fucking care about that at all. And any company that actually cares about that has no balls, and no right to be in charge of anything.

And even then, like I keep saying, yet you apparently keep ignoring, the Gerudo fucking HATE Ganondorf and would rather he fucked off. That makes this a complete non-issue in a meta sense.

Also, they steal because they live in a haunted desert. Not much choice, presumably.
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Nice. A new MM 100% world record was just set today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-xK0zojQk
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>>147061159
I'm pretty sure his comment is written at the 4th grade level. Get better at English. Nobody cares if you Brazilian spics can understand what we say.
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>>147061159
I'm not going to dictate what you're allowed to post at me. But I have Google translate so no, not butthurt.
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>>147033885
Wait is that Orion's Belt?
Now that think about it I remember seeing it in the sky in that game. Were they trying to imply that Hyrule was Earth?
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Just got the Legends character pack. So far, Toon Link seems to be the most broken, being a whirlwind of light, death and destruction and all. And Skull Kid is somewhat underwhelming. But overall, the characters are pretty fun to play I've gotta say.

Will the wii u version ever get heart pieces for them one day though, or are they condemned to be gimped as far as stats go? I mean, I feel it's the latter, but you never know.
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>>147061309
>boring faggot who wants the pathetic excuse for a story
Yeah and that's a nice OPINION you've got there champ.
Someone who as never written a story in his life detected. I can think of quite a few ways to make the notion novel and unique.
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>>147061512
No those are just islands in the game, the only thing that shows in that map is the moon when opened during the night, to let you know to which island to go to to meet the ghost ship
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>>147061373
>Just watched the previous WR yesterday
fucking sweet.
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>>147061727
Yeah, a race of enemies that's totally evil and only exist to be cannon fodder is so unique and interesting.

Are you retarded? Like, legitimately retarded? Because you do not think like a normal functioning person.
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>>147061373
Didn't someone break the OoT WR just recently? I was watching it live.
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>>147061309
the Gerudo in Termina literally live next to the bountiful sea and they're still pirates skipper.
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>>147061309
>Again, I don't fucking care about that at all.
For how much you don't care, it actually seems like you care. And as a company, bad press is never good, if it can be avoided all the better.
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>>147038863
This reminds me of the bull from The Last Unicorn so much.

>>147039997
I loved Link's Awakening. Are you implying what I think you're implying?

>>147042914
Does anyone have a DL link for Hyrule Symphony stuff?
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>>147062000
Talking about bad press...
I wonder if anyone at Nintendo at least fucked that girl's pussy before they BTFO of her.
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>>147061727
>I'm a fanfic author so here is my professional opinion
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Which character(s) do you wish were more reoccuring? I'd like to see more of pic related.
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A male Gerudo is born every 100 years, but not every male Gerudo is Ganondorf, right? It'd be kind of neat to see a different guy in charge for a game and see if the Gerudo change at all because of it.
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>>147061958
to be fair, Termina is a parallel universe not an alternate universe
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>>147062204
Midna and Fi
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>>147058805
>>147058105

You guys need to fuck off with your boogeymen. The SJWs would love them because they're brown Islamic rapists but with vaginas!
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>>147061909
What about a race that has decades to spend getting wet about fantasizing about the day thier male finally gets born so they can then gleefully serve and be dominated him while then unleashing their internal thrist for blood an destruction?

Bit dystopic but here's something for you to?mull over; part of good writing is including things you might personally despise.
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>>147062204
More Vaati
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>>147062225
Pretty sure Ganon's been using the same body since OoT.
It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume the Gerudo have already had several new kings at this point.
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>>147062381
But they're not fat.
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>>147061754
It shows up in the sky too.

I'm so sorry that this was the only image I can find.

The Island itself is called the Star Belt Archipelago, named after Orion's Belt.
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>>147062204
More babes
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>>147062000
>For how much you don't care, it actually seems like you care.
Because I'm tired of hearing about this shit all the goddamned time, and I want it to fucking stop.

>And as a company, bad press is never good, if it can be avoided all the better.
Oh eat a fat dick. A few people yelling at you for doing a thing means nothing. If you are a thing, someone is going to hate you, deal with it.

>>147062459
>part of good writing is including things you might personally despise.
That's a fat load of whoreshit.

>>147062459
>What about a race that has decades to spend getting wet about fantasizing about the day thier male finally gets born so they can then gleefully serve and be dominated him while then unleashing their internal thrist for blood an destruction?
That sounds boring as hell.
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>>147062204
Are Nintendo allowed to use Capcom character? There's so many I'd love to see but I haven't really seen elsewhere.

I want these guys, or at least a way to tame some enemies and ride them around like Dimitri.

Marin from Link's Awakening deserves to show up somewhere too. Her ending was so tragic.
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>>147062556
Man, I love Wind Waker so much.
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>>147061309
I want to live in a haunted desert. :<
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>>147062807
>That's a fat load of whoreshit.

No it isn't. Read a book on literary theory you obtuse moron.
Not him but you are either hopelessly indoctrinated with the special snowflake mentality or are underage.
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>>147020803
>That's a fat load of whoreshit.
Not him, but I'm a writer and this is 100% true.
I bet you only read wish-fulfillment drivel.
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>>147063206
I don't even know what you were replying to but can you please stop?
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>>147063137
No you don't. It's a HAUNTED DESERT, you idiot. It's absurdly hot, there's no water, barely anywhere to grow food, hostile ghosts and monsters are constantly roaming around... No wonder the Gerudo initially went along with the whole world domination bullshit. Better than being stuck in this miserable sand pit.
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The 30% sale prize on Triforce Heroes will exoire tomorrow. If you want it by any chance, redeem it now or never.
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>>147062807
>I will never concede to any argument: the poster
Glad you just outted yourself as that type so I can stop wasting (You)s on you
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>>147062868
Four Swords Adventures didn't have Capcom involved and had at least one Capcom-created character.
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>>147063448
>I don't even know what you were replying to
the greentext I'm quoting. This isn't rocket science.
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>>147063206
>special snowflake
The fuck does that have to do with anything? You're basically saying that in order to be a good writer, one has to write about stuff they don't want to write about. You sound like of those pretentious "true art" retards.

>>147063494
>"You must agree with me, or you're wrong!"
Nice to be reminded why I've been avoiding the Zelda fanbase for a while. You're all scum.
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>>147063453
For real though I always wanted to "live" in the Spirit Temple, out there on the far side of the desert by myself.
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>>147063830
Get fucked
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>>147063483
Is the only way to get Gold Points buying more games?
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>>147063992
Yep, 10 points if you spend at least 5 bucks on the eshop. There's no other way to gain golden coins.
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>>147063096
Don't we all?
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>>147064156
I'l just wait until I can buy it second hand ;_;
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>>147063816
You're not wrong because I've unfairly decided myself empirically correct or something but because your argument lost out to mine and you've been responding to this like a child.

>You're basically saying that in order to be a good writer, one has to write about stuff they don't want to write about.
No numbnuts, hes saying that writers continually write things anathema to them specifically to create tension, produce a climax, then a resolution.
Do writers who write serial killers that kill their favorite character they've crafted "like" serial killers? No (or not necessarily)
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>>147064358
Clearly not.

>>147063830
Watch, LoZ-fags will find a way to bitch hard as ever they Nintendo actually DARED to try something different, while still bemoaning that the series never changes.
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>>147064717
>implying that it isnt anti-LOZfags that bitch about it "aping" mechanics from other games
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>>147063816
>T-these guys in a zelda general destroyed my argument so they're all SCUM
The please fuck of to wherever you came from
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>>147064631
>"Good writing relies on strawmen."
Holy shit, are you fucking serious right now?

>>147064959
The only thing you "people" have destroyed is what little right to exist you had left.
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>>147064717
Oh right I forgot about the Zelda Cycle.

I think it's less Zelda fans and it's more of "I heard Zelda was good, so I played one, the first one I played was really good, so I gave the next one a shot, it was awful, it wasn't exactly like the first one I played and that's bullshit, where my nostalgia bros at!" Then it turns into "Well this new Zelda came out so I figured, maybe it was a fluke, god it was even worse than the last, I have a new appreciation for the last one, because this was is even more dogshit, I still love the first one the best, JUST REMAKE THAT ONE!"

And that line continues on, and usually it's always new kids, are praise a game because it's their first as opposed to actual Zelda fans. Most Zelda fans I find generally like the majority of the games or all of them. They might have 1-2 they don't really like for their flaws, which is fine, but they will always not like them for their flaws, or they just love them all.

I do agree Zelda seems to get the biggest amount of shitposters as far as any series though, which is an amazing accomplishment. I feel like KH, FF, and Metroid are the only ones that come close.
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>>147065196
>The only thing you "people" have destroyed is what little right to exist you had left.

Kek, I haven't been following this conversation much, but all this butthurt just because you think gerudos should have a different story?
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>>147064631
>doesn't like poorly-written 1-dimensional mustache-twirling evil characters
>writes them into fanfics anyway
I AM GREAT AUTHOR
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>>147065796
You wish.
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>>147065796
SHEik i'm sorry, she isn't
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Since we're talking about writing, if I wrote a story about what happens to Romani on the first night if Link doesn't meet her, would anyone read it? I usually don't write fanfiction.
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>>147065595
No, they should have the story that's staring everyone with a functioning brain right in the face. I mean, it's basically Nabooru's entire character.

But no, clearly, muh SJW boogeyman is physically stopping Nintendo from using them again.

>>147065284
>Metroid
That's like one or two assholes with absolutely nothing better to do.
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>>147066124
I would only read it if it had hot lesbian, incestuous sex.
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>>147065196
"Strawmen" describes what I have outlined if it were implemented poorly and cheaply (which is possible to all story points, including your sympathetic villian point)
This ultimately boils down to you assuming your desired Gerudo story meta can is inherently superior and better to build off of based soley on the fact that you like sympathetic villians. Which is arrogance on your part.
All anyone in this thread ever did was find fault in some of the details you were outlining and your response was to strike out and insult rather than take (hell possibly even out-argue) the criticism.
>>147065601
Read above
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>>147066265
Hmm, I doubt Cremia would be in it much.
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How long will it be before we get a game where Zelda is fully playable (excluding warriors)? Apparently Aonuma considered it when people where talking of a female hero, and rejected the idea by saying something like "what is Link going to do?" and something to do with the balance of the Triforce (although I don't see how that'd be affected). Meanwhile Miyamoto expresses the interest of a Sheik spin-off
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>>147066230
>But no, clearly, muh SJW boogeyman is physically stopping Nintendo from using them again

I'm pretty sure Nintendo hasn't used them because they created other characters that they wanted to use instead. Ninty doesn't really pander to those kinds of issues.
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>>147066874
>Meanwhile Miyamoto expresses the interest of a Sheik spin-off

So basically, a princess Zelda spinoff?
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So I recently emulated Wind Waker and Twilight Princess and can anybody explain to me why Wind Waker is liked so much relative to TP?

TP (outside of its unbearably slow start and those shitty wolf segments) has been infinitely more engaging/fun than Wind Waker. Wind Wakers world is just empty and bloated, the sailing is a complete chore (to the point that I just get my boat sailing in the right direction and alt tab out of the game while Link goes there) and the only fun segments are the dungeons which even then Twilight Princess is significantly better in.

Don't get me started on how childish it all feels, I know Zelda is a game series intended at everyone but with a slight leaning to children but Wind Waker has NONE of the spooky atmosphere that Twilight Princess is riddled with.

What is with this disparity among the community? Twilight Princess feels like a true form to Majoras Mask/Ocarina of Time whereas Wind Waker feels like literal babbyshit.
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>>147066874
>How long will it be before we get a game where Zelda is fully playable (excluding warriors)?
Never. Nintendo simply isn't interested.

>>147066480
>finding faults in some of the details
Bullshit. Your argument is that the Gerudo will never appear again because Tumblr. That's your own forced meme, and has nothing to do with the actual nuts and bolts of writing. Kill yourself.
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>>147067157

Matthewmatosis.

Cucks on /v/ take his opinion as gospel
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>>147067157
>shitty wolf sections
Am I the only person who isn't bothered by them?
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>>147067645
They didn't bother me. Pretty easy really.

The only times in the game that was irritating, were the points where I knew Midna could teleport me but was not giving the option.
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>>147067157
Both WW and TP have their benefits and drawbacks. The atmosphere of TP is incredible and WW's soundtrack is one of the best in the series if not THE best. They're both good games, they just appeal to different tastes. I personally enjoy them both, but that's my opinion.
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>>147067157
>Don't get me started on how childish it all feels
>Wind Waker feels like literal babbyshit.

I love TP, but WW is also a great game. Different atmospheres don't make a game better or worse, even if you like one more than the other.
And I don't even know why you find sailing to be a chore, fuck can't people just relax for a bit and enjoy the music? Does everything need to be high action adrenaline rushes?
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>>147068085

>3~ soundtracks for a 30+ hour game that is 70% sailing
>have to change the wind direction everytime you mis judge an island/sunken treasure

Yea, that's not going to get boring.
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>>147067980
>The only times in the game that was irritating, were the points where I knew Midna could teleport me but was not giving the option.
And even then it's totally in character.

Twilight Princess is basically just a full game version of Jabu Jabu's Belly, where a haughty, non-human princess makes Link her fuccboi.
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>>147068196
>That is 70% sailing.
What is warping.
>Have to change direction everytime you mis judge an island/sunken treasure.
Unless you're going directly against the current wind form you'll still retain a good amount of speed. As for treasures, that's what cruising's for. Just need to exercise a bit of patience.
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>>147059116
>Often, they aren't smooth and they lack weight.
that has been the case in a lot of Zelda. I see it more as an artistic choice.
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>>147068196
So you didn't bother shooting the frog god?
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>>147067157
Personally, I like more WW for itssense of Adventure. TP was an adventure too but not in the same way of WW. In TP you had way less freedom of roaming and finding secrets.
I don't know, it's mostly a matter of timefuckery and personal opinions.
I can see people preferring TP but I can't. TP is still a great game, I'm not shitting on it, mind you.
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>>147066230
>SJW boogeyman is physically stopping Nintendo from using them again.
This is you exaggerating. sjw are only a "bogeyman" (meaning a worthless inaccurate platitute being used on our part) if they aren't a legitimate technical concern to the simple realty of a entities decision making process. Which they are. Provably and verifiably so.
Read >>147059053 and >>147060495 again in light of this

>>147067394
>Your argument is that the Gerudo will never appear again because Tumblr
No. Our argument is that presenting the Gerudo AS THEY WERE in OoT presents certain socio-political impracticalities than Nintendo would then need the introduction of various retcons to already established lore to ameliorate.
Impracticalities born out of certain simple realities of the screeching intolerance of culture in the left. (by "Tumblr" I'm assuming you meant that as shorthand for the whole special snowflake crowd)
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>>147068440
YOU DO NOT SHOOT KEK
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>>147068632
But if you shoot kek he gives you the ability to shitpost your way across the seas.
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>>147067157
Because Twilight Princess has pretty much nothing fun to do outside of the dungeons, fishing and the ball rolling are pretty much it. Its entire art style is basically bloom covered in brown, it takes over an hour to actually start the game and even get a sword for five minutes, despite doing heavy characterization at the start almost everyone feels like they're just there and nothing more(Especially the crew that forms to help you), the special attacks you get are barely useful at all and you're usually better off just using bombs or the ball and chain if it poses any sort of problem to directly attacking.

One major problem is the entire overworld is devoid of almost anything and the most you'll find is a hidden cave with a whole 50 Rupees which you don't need if you happen to be in wolf sense mode for whatever reason. In Wind Waker this is those crow's nests strewn about. Another major problem is that for doing the collection quests that take all game you get absolutely useless rewards, the Poes just end up getting you infinite Rupees when Rupees are pretty much the most worthless they've ever been, and helping Agitha gets you wallet upgrades way way way too late for when you'd actually need them on top of more Rupees.

Wind Waker might have the Triforce hunt, the Forsaken Fortress, and it has the reefs and alt+tab sailing at times, but the actual unique islands are fun to discover and mess around in and usually land you a Piece of Heart, Sea Charts, or a treasure chest of Rupees that you will actually put to good use since there's a bunch of stuff you can waste Rupees on. The dungeons are mostly good, the characters actually feel like they have character, even the throwaway ones wandering about, the music is fantastic, the "main" islands are all fun to explore and have little secrets hidden about them, there's a bunch of side quests to do, there's Pictograph collecting, and there's a lot of stuff to actually collect.
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>>147068527
>entities
*entity's
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>>147067157
I think TP does do a lot of things better than WW, but WW also does a lot of things better than TP. I loved exploring all the islands and sailing around, Windfall and the general artstyle and characterization that was shoved around. I like most of the dungeons in TP better and Midna is fantastic, but I feel like it's missing that true sense of exploration and characterization for the most part, everyone just sort of feels bland outside of a few instances, which is rather unfortunate. Both are fantastic games though.
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>>147068527
>Our argument is that presenting the Gerudo AS THEY WERE in OoT presents certain socio-political impracticalities than Nintendo would then need the introduction of various retcons to already established lore to ameliorate.
So you think the "special snowflake crowd", as you call it, would object to the idea of presenting a society that is forced into villainy by their tyrannical ruler in a sympathetic light?

Please, do go ahead and elaborate. I can't wait to hear this.
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>>147068974
It's a fucking game. Most of the people that bitch about that kind of shit don't really care about games in general and only try to push certain types of agendas. If you don't like it, learn to deal with it because nobody is going to care about a non issue in a video game.
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So, you've just bought BotW and have booted it up. You've completed the Great Plateau and are off to the rest of the wilds.

You're given a choice of a base of operations, a little camp/house type deal of your choice, with one NPC from a previous game to choose. You're free to play this camp anywhere on the overworld you like, and decorate it like any other place in Zelda. For example you can place it on Death Mountain, but have it look like the Wind Ruins in MC. The NPC you choose does not come with you on your adventure and is only there for some fun little dialogue after you do shrines, dungeons, get items, etc. and they're used to help you cook food that gets you to a full 20 hearts.

Where you do you put your camp/house, what's the theme of decoration, and which NPC do you choose?
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>>147068974
>presenting a society that is forced into villainy by their tyrannical ruler in a sympathetic light
They were villanous in Termina all without Ganondorf just fine
Submitting to the once-in-a-century male automatically as part of their culture is the problem.

That was easy. Now address the other part of my last post
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>>147068917

>Because Twilight Princess has pretty much nothing fun to do outside of the dungeons

Just like Wind Waker then?
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>>147069473
I don't have one. I have a Wolf+Midna, a Ganondorf, and a Squidling.
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>>147069357
>push certain types of agendas
Exactly. Marxists know that video games are the new cultural frontier and know that they must spread to it to continue their cultural cultural strangehold.
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>>147069570
>Anon doesn't have a tulpa
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>>147069362
I'd have it on Snowpeak, WW Cabana, and with Midna.

We'd cover up by the fire when it got chilly at night and she'd cook me nice soup.
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>>147069481
termina is a parallel universe
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>>147069857
With the Gerudo oddly exactly the same.
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>>147069953
Not exactly the same, they're water pirates now. I wouldn't exactly call them villainous either, they're pirates, they're sort of chaotic neutral really.
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>>147069362
Some place cold, I'd decide after seeing the actual map.
It'd probably have an Ancient Cistern feel to it.
Fi.
Yep.
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>>147069675
I'll pass.
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>>147067157
>but Wind Waker has NONE of the spooky atmosphere that Twilight Princess is riddled with.

Everyone posted much better articulated thoughts about it, but I just wanted to post the Ghost Ship.
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>>147069362
I put it in the center of the world for easy travel. Most likely near a body of water like a river or a lake for fishing.
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>>147069357
>admitting it's a non-issue
THEN WHY DID YOU BRING IT UP?

>>147069481
>Submitting to the once-in-a-century male automatically as part of their culture is the problem.
That's not a problem. Not even from a feminist perspective. The women still do the work and fight and all that, and have a choice in what they want to do with their personal lives. Really, putting the one dude in charge doesn't even seem to matter much to them aside from that being how their government works. Hell, if you think about it, Ganondorf himself has some femmy traits.

>Now address the other part of my last post
There's no point. That's just you projecting. Cry the fuck more.
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>>147069362
I'll take a tent, some cookware and a sleeping roll.
Fi as my companion.
I'll be the happiest adventurer.
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>>147069481
I'm not that anon that you're arguing with. I just responded to you to tell you that it is all just a goddamn video game and not some political piece that everyone needs to look at and evaluate. Ganondorf is a big bad guy that forces people to do bad things. There's nothing difficult to figure out about that.
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>>147070217
And then you went in the ghost ship and 9 times out of 10 it was full of generic enemies that aren't even spooky to begin with.
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>>147069675
Sorry, but no. Just amiibo.
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>>147069553
Except Wind Waker has all the unique islands outside of those horrendous reefs(Though they do reuse that underground boat layout like twice and the arena with three mouths two or three times), the submarines, the Octoroks, the two boat minigames, the seagull controlling areas, and those useless crow's nests. Then there's the quests that pretty much everyone doles out which give you sea charts usually that require you to figure out how to succeed in what they're requesting(Via Pictographs, certain items, etc), the decorating of Windfall to your liking, finishing your Pictograph collction, the trading side quest, the actual rewards you get from the Sea Charts that require you to locate them by consulting your map, and if you want you can include the Savage Labyrinth though they both have it and they're not that fun in both games.

The stuff you can do in TP are a handful of quests that are usually just either you escorting something for a while while stuff attacks you, paying a bunch of Rupees, that one minigame where you drop from the sky and try to land on the top platform, the bomb shooting game, fishing, the Kargarok flying game, and the ball rolling game. The locations you can find are the exact same tunnel system that has a couple branches that is really dark and may or may not have a Poe in it, underground caves with 50 Rupee rewards by the boatload that are all copy pasted outside of one or two of them, Poe Hunting(Which gets you absolutely nothing worth it in the end), insect hunting(Which gets you absolutely nothing worth it in the end since it's way too little to late since you get thrown Rupees anyway and have used them to pay off the two or three things that actually cost anything), and the extremely rare area that actually leads you to a stone or Piece of Heart which are actually useful to you in some manner.
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Since when being spooky is a necessary thing for a game tobe good?
I blame teenagers.
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>>147070210
Anon, it's common knowledge amongst the Tulpa community that it was those clopping cunts that gave the practice a bad name. They poison everything.
If you do it right, it's wonderful.
That being said, I don't have a Fi tulpa.
I have my own straight-up Asuka and life is good.

>>147070428
I wish Fi merch was a thing.
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>>147070541

>Except Wind Waker has all the unique islands outside of those horrendous reefs(Though they do reuse that underground boat layout like twice and the arena with three mouths two or three times), the submarines, the Octoroks, the two boat minigames, the seagull controlling areas, and those useless crow's nests. Then there's the quests that pretty much everyone doles out which give you sea charts usually that require you to figure out how to succeed in what they're requesting(Via Pictographs, certain items, etc), the decorating of Windfall to your liking, finishing your Pictograph collction, the trading side quest, the actual rewards you get from the Sea Charts that require you to locate them by consulting your map, and if you want you can include the Savage Labyrinth though they both have it and they're not that fun in both games.

Just like Twilight Princess has optional minigames/areas.

The random Wind Waker islands are bloat and padding, nothing more. Twilight Princess dungeons (the crutch of all Zelda games) shit on Wind Wakers unquestionably.
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>>147070284
>The women still do the work and fight and all that, and have a choice in what they want to do with their personal lives.
And this is true of our society anh we still get complaints of the ""patriarchy"". So theres that argument.
You're also granting these people an intellectual consistency that they do not possess. They can an will kick and scream at the minorest of details even if readily available evidence contradicts it.
>There's no point. That's just you projecting
Cop out. This is just you avoiding having to say the phrase "I stand corrected" at all costs. I asked you to address it specifically because it loses you the argument unless you have have more mental gymnastics.
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>>147070751
>Just like Twilight Princess has optional minigames/areas.
Which I listed. There's less of them, two of the major game-wide things you can do give you absolutely nothing of value in the end, there's less quests and items to find, there's less of a reason to actually explore since your rewards are usually garbage Rupees or a Poe, and in general the areas you visit are barren as can be. Wind Waker has a variety of side content you can actually do even if you remove terrible things like the reefs from the mix, and the actual islands you visit are all unique and reward you for actually taking the time of day with things that are of value to you in the end.

I'm not disagreeing that TP has great dungeons since it does, they're way better than what WW has, but the game as a whole is wholly inferior to the content and variety WW provides you outside of them.
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>Fi never got the piano lessons she desperately craved.
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>>147071291
>implying you know what's under the sleeves
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>>147071518
Arms
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>>147056697
Sure, she could use it. Why not, actually? The Master Sword isn't Link's personal sword.

>>147062204
Damn, even if they weren't supposed to be some kind of avatar for the Golden Goddesses, I wish Nintendo would just go with it.

>>147065796
Make a wish to the Triforce.

I was so sad we didn't have Gerudo in TP. It was the perfect game to show them flourish without having the BBEG as their leader. And a perfect opportunity to present their natural hotness with improved graphics. Damn it.
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>>147070986
>And this is true of our society anh we still get complaints of the ""patriarchy"". So theres that argument.
Our society is still primarily run by males, and various gender taboos and expectations still persist. Don't try to compare complex real world politics to a goddamn video game. It makes you look like a tool.

>They can an will kick and scream at the minorest of details even if readily available evidence contradicts it.
A lot of people within categories do that. They're known as radicals, and they tend to be pretty annoying regardless of what group they're in. Maybe you should learn to tune them out and instead consider the arguments of people who aren't raving lunatics.
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>>147071291
>>147071518
See >>147071568
Pic related, bottom left.
Also. Can someone chuck the Historia PDF into a mega?
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>>147071291
>Implying she doesn't play with her feet
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>>147052831
Stop trying to drawfag here. You already tried, cut it off.
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>>147071712
holy shit that's like the worst design choice ever, everyone thinks she is an amputee
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>>147071712
What is the top left trying to portray?
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>>147071816
I always just assumed she had arms.

>>147071847
A gliding mechanic, like with chickens or the new glider. Apparently, don't quote me on this, it was going to be in the game before the sprinting and stamina became a thing
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>>147071712
what i dont get is how be thought she was an amputee, i mean if she was, the master sword wouldnt have its blue wings on the crossguard
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This is why WW succeeds, Ganondorf. His presence and characterization are absolutely phenomenal.

While TP ultimately had the better all around final boss fight that included multiple forms, Ganondorf was largely a non-entity. While there are some things that he does well "Surviving Execution", "Possessing Zant and invading Hyrule Castle", "Crushing the Fused Shadow after killing Midna", "Still trying to fight with the Master Sword in his gut". It's ultimately not as powerful as the scenes with Ganondorf tossing around a small Link and Zelda, regretting his decisions partway, but still determined, his speeches, his laughs, his sheer presence is dominating virtually from the get-go. The Final Boss also feeling like "This is the end for Ganondorf, we're all going to die drowning, but I can take him down with me".

This is where WW succeeds that TP doesn't, the sheer amount of emotion and expression that the game is able to convey. You don't get that in TP outside of the scenes with Midna, and while TP has better dungeons (no arguing there), it has it's own aesthetic that is good, a lot of characters are lacking emotional impact, the world itself is lacking an emotional impact. While WW's is largely sea, even some of the smaller rinky dink islands have something going on with them, such as the Rito Landing Platform, it's just a quaint little mini-game, some of the islands just have Pirates sailing around, but why? There are guys submarining and diving out in the waters, etc.

The game has emotion to it, not saying TP doesn't, but WW has it in bulk and it feels like a more enjoyable experience, ultimately a better adventure to finally see it through to the end. TP lacked that I feel outside of Midna, with her biggest scenes being post-Lakebed Temple and Zelda's sacrifice, her sacrifice for Link/Zelda, and the post-credits. Characters like Zelda seem bland and lifeless, Ilia and Colin and the crew, seem bland & lifeless despite being such a big part of the story, etc.
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>>147072073
I'm only just learning that people thought she was an amputee.
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>>147069647
Look at the fascist upset at his societal norms being challenged in art.
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>>147072503
Fire Rod?
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>>147072547
Naw
Ice rod
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>>147072168
I think they just glued Ganondorf into the story at the end of development because they wanted to choose a timeline placement. The actual game was about Zant's antics, or zantics.
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>>147072547
Yup.
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>>147072562
Ice Burns are a thing yo
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>>147072672
Exactly.
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>>147070612
No, you guys have a bad name because you have fucking imaginary friends and hide them behind some New Age spirituality bullshit
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>>147072168
>Ganondorf. His presence and characterization are absolutely phenomenal.
I gotta call bullshit on the whole "MUH PEOPLE" thing. In OOT, it seemed pretty clear that he didn't give a shit about his fellow Gerudo, basically leaving them to rot once he took over Hyrule. We never see him at the Fortress, and he himself never actually seems to acknowledge his people at all.

So sorry, no, I don't buy his little sob story one bit.
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>>147072757
>New Age spirituality
Man fuck that, I'm just a little unhinged and decided to make use of it.
If I'm going to talk to myself, why not spend some time making it someone I would want to talk to?
Fuck bronies though. They shat up the place something shocking
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>>147072665
I would be inclined to agree with that, but, notice Zant's Red Tassel, it has a stylized Gerudo symbol on it, which is a stark contrast to say Zant's Swords, Midna/Zant's Thrones, the back of Midna's cloak, and the stylized eyes around that signify a Sheikah connection instead.

While I do think, that maybe Ganondorf wasn't entirely meant to be a big deal for most of the game, I do think he was meant to be included from the start.

I love TP, I love WW, I just feel WW has a lot more backbone and sense of adventure and emotion to it which is why it edges out TP in my opinion. TP just has weirdly largely breaks in terms of the emotion and adventure it deals out, far greater breaks than say WW does.
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I have proof of Fi not having arms, but it's a 9MB gif

How the fuck can I modify gifs?
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>>147073349
Here we go
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>>147072857
That's fine, and it could be nothing more than a bullshit story I agree. But I look at Ganondorf like this. Within each timeline, something different has happened and he's different in every one.

>Downfall
He ultimately wins, even after being sealed and manages to seize the Triforce and the Sacred Realm, becoming nothing more than a power hungry Boar Demon.
>Child
While he was executed, he was executed before he even attempted anything, thanks to a random forest boy from the future. While they may have found something out in the oncoming trial/investigation that deemed execution, he seems rather pissed in this timeline and ultimately ends up gaining the Trident of Power as well, forcing his hand.
>Adult
In Adult, he's had a lot of time to reflect. Hyrule is gone, his people are gone (whether he truly cared or not), and when he finally achieves what he wants at the end, it's taken away by the King once more and forever.

I think each Timeline and the subsequent events of OoT and it's direct aftermath, leads itself to Ganon's motivations and personality fairly well. While you may be correct that he gave no real shits about the Gerudo in WW, which as I said, might very well be true, this Ganondorf has a sense of charisma about him. While still power hungry, he's more inclined to talk and reflect (again even if they are bullshit), he's just more charismatic and relate-able as a villain than the typical "Chaotic Evil, nothing but power hungry villain". And that I appreciate immensely.
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>>147073489
>this Ganondorf has a sense of charisma about him
That's fair. Nothing wrong with liking a villain who's got some oomph to them. I just hate when people try to pain Ganon as some kind of anti-villain who did it all for his subjects.
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>>147043423
I literally haven't played the game in 10 years but I sure don't remember it mentioning anything about their fairies and googling around it seems that the game doesn't mention it after all.
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>>147071712
Why does she look like the Great Fairy from WW? Has it ever been explained even from a design and not lore/story perspective? For some reason I never noticed it until now but it's really weird.
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>>147073775
Understandable, he's definitely still a villain, even if he's had time to reflect on some of his actions. I mean he does immediately try to kill you right after basically.
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>>147073848
No there wasn't any explanation given, but I think it suggests that all things started in Skyloft, and filtered downwards from there.
Imagine, and this is a big leap, if the fairies were "made" to look that way, instead of being born that way.
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>>147073848
They intentionally imitated the design.
If you want to come up with fan theories, you could make note of the lack of Great Faeries in SS.
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>>147073848
Aonuma said they based Fi's design off of her and that was it.

I mean you could probably base a theory that Fi came from Hylia and that Hylia's original form may have been very fairy esque and that fairies descended from her though.
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>>147074138
>Imagine, and this is a big leap, if the fairies were "made" to look that way, instead of being born that way.

What do you mean by made?

The Great Fairies, according to their figurine, were born on an Angular Isles. And they imply the Fortune Fairy was the one from OoT. Does this mean anything too?


>>147074228

So Fi was the first FaIry somehow?
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>mfw >I am a weapon
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>>147071703
lefty detected
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>>147074750
Well, yeah. She is literally a sword. A cute sword, but still a sword.

>>147073848
Honestly, they probably just reused the design. Unless there's some convoluted deepest lore nonsense going on.
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>>147075339
>Unless there's some convoluted deepest lore nonsense going on.
There is
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>>147075339
>Unless there's some convoluted deepest lore nonsense going on.
There always is
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>>147072520
>hur I'll just call him a fascist
They're societal norms because they work and morons who need to felate and congratulate themselves for "reinventing the wheel" are the really truly intellectually stagnant people.
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>>147062474
This. Vaati was awesome
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>>147074628
>What do you mean by made?
Fi is, in a manner of speaking, artificial.
What if the Great Fairies are as well?
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>>147071703.
>Our society is still primarily run by males, and various gender taboos and expectations still persist.
Jesus there it is: The Narrative; full flower
You just, wether you meant to or not, just defended social justice.
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>>147075756
Didn't Aonuma admit that Fi had a direct connection the great fairies in some old SS or HH interview?
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>>147075908
Not sure about that, but it does tie into my idea of the Great Fairies being a construct of ancient technology that's so advanced that it seems like magic.
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>>147026742
I definitely felt this song more on Wind Waker,
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>>147075872
>obvious facts are stated
>OMG YOU'RE DEFENDING SJW'S
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>>147075756
>>147075962

Apparently Angular Islands is a manmade island, which seems to fit into this theory. Plus they're all blue and glowy as shit which fits well with the aesthetic of the technology in Breath of the Wild.

Angular Islands is made of square dots, aka pixels.

I can't tell if it's 4:00am and I need to sleep or I am in the deepest lore so...
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>>147075962
>great fairies are just Apple geniuses
>they are called fairies because they're faggots.

And that's why they look like trannies.
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>>147027816
the hawkeye on BoTW
NNNNNGGHHH
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>>147076245
Who knows, maybe this little theory I nursed on my own and never mentioned for fear of rebuttal is actually the truth.
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>>147076265
You got confused with another game anon.
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>>147075908
As far as I'm aware he only said that her connection was based on design only.
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>>147070301
Fi for intrepid sex tourism
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>>147075756
I've thought about that. It would be an interesting twist. Maybe even go so far as to say that everything magic is actually just levels of access into the old Hyrule internet. The problem being that if they explain everything, it will probably be the last game.
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What's your favourite deepest lore shit? I haven't played Zelda for years but got interested again because of BotW and I realized how much I love the dumb timeline and lore shit.
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>>147076245
While were at it, does this mean that Ghirahim was also a fairy, but corrupted by Demise's evil at some point?

I mean this is his true form after all. And if we look at Calamity Ganon, he is capable of corrupting AI like the guardians...

Lets go full crazy and assume that Demise and his curse is actually some sort of nanobot magitech AI ordeal. Demise was a god-AI that went full rogue for whatever reason, explaining his different forms and his ability to manipulate time or corrupt and curse things so easily.
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>>147076945
>What's your favourite deepest lore shit?
Timefuckery.
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>>147076915
Miyamoto originally wanted the NES Zelda to go between future and past, the Triforce was supposed to be a microchip. He mentioned this again when he discussed the direction of future technology that Aonuma went for BotW. I would say there's something to it. It gives the game aw hole "ancient astronaut" vibe.

>>147077023
What sword is Girahim? I've never played SS.
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>>147077031

>I see in your post the same cancer that would take the heart of me!

>A day may come when the courage of /vg/ fails, when we forsake our anons, and break all bonds of fellowship!

>But it is not this day!!

>An hour of wolves and shattered shields,
when the age of men comes crashing down, but it is not this day!

>This day we fight!!

>By all that you hold dear on this good Earth,

>I bid you stand, Men of Hylia!!!

TLDR Your meme is shit, keep up faggot
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>>147077472
He's the nega-master sword
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>>147077531
>keep up
I will.
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>>147076945
Sheikah/Interlopers(Twili)/Veran
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>>147073064
Just because there is a Gerudo symbol on Zant, it doesn't mean that originally there wouldn't be a Ganondorf in the story. You have to back that up with at least some early concept art, and even then it will be sketchy. Nintendo could have just slapped that after adding Ganny.

Ganon in TP is non existent up to the point that he is actually revealed. (which i thought to be awesome at start, but later i came to miss Zant).
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>>147077472
its funny how people dont want to see a future setting Zelda, when they have hinted at it since the first game, i believe it will happen eventually, theyve given small doses of it increasing in the next Zelda game, spirit tracks was just a test
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>>147076945
The Shadow Temple and the implication that it's where the Sheikah performed various morbid rituals and did all their dark work in service to the royal family.

Pretty much anything with the Sheikah, really is the coolest shit.

You will never convince me that the Locomo aren't actually Sheikah. They totally changed that at the last minute.
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>>147076945
The Octorock spout pointing upwards = The Guardians top part in BotW. They're eight legged stone monsters instead of eight legged octopie monsters who shoot rocks.
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>>147076945
Read the previous threads and skip to the long posts.

My favorite deepest loreshit is the connection between Sheikah, Interloper and Twili in TP. I only learned this in one of the first generals and it completely changed my verdict towards the game. I always resented the cheap Sheikah mention with the wild west version of Old Kakariko. Made me barf and left a very bad aftertaste.

But this connection? Damn, that was a good line of thought.
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>>147077967
OH FUCK
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>>147073791
It doesn't say shit about the fairies, yes. But it says that the Koroks took human forms. The Deku Tree is there, and the serve the Tree.
To me this shows that the fairies where just not important and Nintendo wanted something to guide the player and added that to everyone else because it would be weird if only Link had one. later they played on it by having Link being the only one without the fairy pure speculation
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>>147071236

>but the game as a whole is wholly inferior to the content and variety WW provides you outside of them

Outright false, variety wise TPP has more minigames and the wolf form (like it or hate it) is a huge change to gameplay, something WW does not have. The combat/items are also more varied/depth than anything WW has to offer.

You Wind Waker shills are the worst
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>>147076945
Any reference to the Sheikah, especially the possible connection between them and the Twili. Also the purpose of the Arbiters Ground and the theory that it was the execution place for the Gerudo since they don't exist in TP though it's been years since I've looked that theory up and I don't remember how sound it is..
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>>147077531
>There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you.
>Link, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your courage. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to Hyrule.
>I'll never join you!
>If you only knew the power of the Triforce. Zelda never told you what happened to your father.
>She told me enough! She told me you killed him!
>No. I am your father.
>No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
>Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
>No! No!
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>>147078351
>She told me enough! She told me you killed him!
>No. I am your father.
kek good choice of pic
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>>147077967
Comparison picture...also Aonuma said they literally were inspired by Octorock in the NES Zelda because in that game they felt huge and massive. They didn't want to make them ugly again which is how the whole technology theme got started.

>>147078196
I don't know the in universe reason but the fairies were added because the Kokiri and Link were inspired by Peter Pan and Tinkerbell.
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>>147055090
Didn't one of HW/L's devs say that his character would be "difficult to implement right now" in reference to the 2016 DLC window? At the Wondercon panel back in April.

Maybe because it'd fuck with whatever appearance he might have in BoTW? He's a guaranteed cash sink, weird to think Nintendo would let that go.
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>>147077974
>>147076945
>>147077031
>>147077713

>zelda
>lore
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>>147078448
>I don't know the in universe reason but the fairies were added because the Kokiri and Link were inspired by Peter Pan and Tinkerbell.

Also the fight with Shadow Link happens for this reason too. It's also fits really well with the whole kid>adult theme.

IDK if it's lore or what but it gives me some sort of mind boner.
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>>147078520
>he thinks he's being funny
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>>147078707
I had always assumed that Dark Link was just Link's evil extracted from him in some way, to purge that darkness before him. I guess the whole kid/adult thing works just as well though.
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>>147078520
>muh only dark souls has lore
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>>147078520
>You favourite game
>Good
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>>147055529
>Veran, maybe?
I would love this and it will never happen. They could even bring Onox with her, for all anyone gives a damn; that armored asshole would fit in great.
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>>147078885
Well he's standing on a giant pond which is reflective so his shadow pops out but I think it's only inspired by Peter Pan and I have no idea what Peter Pans shadow was. So it's probably what you described too.

I just meant being inspired by a character who never grew up is weirdly fitting for The Legend of Zelda since the Kokiri were perpetual children.
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>>147078486
>Maybe because it'd fuck with whatever appearance he might have in BoTW
I really hope you're right
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>>147078448
>I don't know the in universe reason but the fairies were added because the Kokiri and Link were inspired by Peter Pan and Tinkerbell.

Interesting.

It makes it feel out of place. The fairies existed in previous games. The Kokiri fairies are the same as the regular fairies, at least there is no effort to show otherwise.
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>>147079010
Midna is the new Veran basically, but good.
>>147079140
That is true, a lot of stuff is based on Peter Pan surprisingly.
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>>147079548
>but good.
Midna a poo
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>>147079010
>Veran
I'm not the only one convinced she's a Twili, even though she's probably not right?

I mean, she's a blue skinned redhead with shadow powers. COME ON!
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>>147079662
You're not.
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>>147079662
>i don't read the threads
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>>147078332
>variety wise TPP has more minigames
TP:
>Game where you control your speed to land on the platform outside the water dungeon that has a Poe on it at night.
>Sumo which is story mandatory and you get nothing for replaying it.
>Fishing
>Bomb Arrow pot shooting.
>Kargarok fruit thing.
>Ball balance game.
>Technically the Clawshots game for the heart piece

WW:
>Mail sorting
>Deku Leaf long distance flying.
>Cannonball game.
>Battleship.
>The one game where you ride in your boat along a predetermined track shooting stuff and win Rupees.
>Auction House bidding.

They both have their variety and TP only wins out by one game.

>is a huge change to gameplay
In what way? It's basically just used as an Epona substitute since the charge attack is the only decent attack and the bite/spin attack is terribly weak. If you want to get into semantics then TP and WW are even in gameplay changes due to Medli and Makar respectively, while TP has the Command Rod and Wolf Form, though Medli and Makar are more just a movable item when it boils down to it like the Command Rod statues.

>The combat/items are also more varied/depth than anything WW has to offer.
Sure, the combat is more in-depth, I agree, however how often did you make use of any of the skills they provided when literally everything could be beaten just by normally slashing without any sort of problem to warrant using the skills? Though ReDeads and the ice things died instantly if you used the Ball and Chain. Even Darknuts could be beaten by simply run swinging and then running behind them to smack them a bunch even on the shed form. Item variation and practical usage is the same on both, Ice Arrows + Skull Hammer one-shots a Darknut, Deku Leaf knocks enemies down or away, Ice Arrows instant kill moths, Grappling Hook let you steal stuff, etc. TP had the B&C as I mentioned, Gale Boomerang was your Deku Leaf, Bomb Arrows were other arrow types in WW, and so on.

I want to hear why TP is better as an overall game.
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>>147080054
>Game where you control your speed to land on the platform outside the water dungeon that has a Poe on it at night.
You can actually stop those platforms if you want to make it easier.
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>>147078196
>Aonuma: We created the Rito as the evolved form of the Zora that appeared in "Ocarina of Time" and the Korogs as what the Kokiri became once they left the forest. They appear different, but they have inherited their blood.
http://forums.legendsalliance.com/topic/14202-translation-of-japanese-game-texts/page-48?p=444763#entry444763
It sounds like becoming Koroks happened because of their surroundings and not because they chose to look like human children for Link's sake, I stand by the anon I replied to being full of shit. I'm aware the fairies were added for hardware and gameplay reasons but even if their story significance was an afterthought, it still exists.
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>>147080803
kekkedy kek
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>>147079861
Okay then.

>filename
I always thought the implication was that the Twili were actually the Gerudo, but the Sheikah admittedly make more sense. They were all about darkness and such. So what's the prevailing theory, that the Interlopers were originally trying to get power to protect the kingdom before they got corrupted?

>>147079982
First day here.
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>>147076945
Maybe not my favourite but I love the oracle games and never see this in theory/lore threads.

The Oracle of Secrets is a Kokiri but I always thought that the Oracle of Seasons is a Gerudo.
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>>147080636
Koroks are definitely a product of the environment they are surrounded by. The Deku Tree says that, they needed to be able to fly to get around. I see it like this.

When you tilt Skyward Sword's map to have the Temple of Time facing properly, the Faron Woods is actually Hyrule Field. The Faron Woods may have been chopped down for Castle Town and Hyrule Castle and the Kikwi retreated, becoming the Kokiri in an effort to say "hey we're just children, don't cut down this forest too!"

The Fairies I view are sort of guardians for the Kokiri to help keep them safe. Considering the vast knowledge of things that Navi can point out, I imagine they can all do it, and it's to warn them of danger. The Fairies have a strong connection to the Great Deku Tree, as he's able to call Navi from far off, but everyone else needs to actively meet with him. They may have been given the Fairies after the destruction of the Faron Woods in an effort to keep them safe from the other races, especially during the Hyrulian Civil War. The Koroks don't need them perhaps because they can fly and can typically avoid most things on on the Great Sea. The Faron Woods in TP just being named after the old Faron Woods eventually too.

This is how I've always seen the Kokiri/Fairies, but it's ultimately just a theory and probably means nothing.
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>>147080921
There are eyeballs all over the twilight realm which seem similar to the Sheika eye. Also about Veran. She has an eyeball on her design too. They didn't actually remove it.

Now that BotW is coming out we have a lot of similar style choices to the technology we see there and the Twilight Realm, down to the color blue.
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>>147080054

>In what way?

In that you're a fucking wolf, what do you mean "what way"? The entire world changes, let alone your gameplay.

Point is, that's another point to TPs variety.

> however how often did you make use of any of the skills they provided

Not an argument, how many times do you use combos in Souls games when all you need to do is roll/R1? Doesn't remove the objective depth those games have to their combat systems.

>I want to hear why TP is better as an overall game.

I gave reasons. Dungeons, story/lore was more engaging and overall it had an all round superior atmosphere part in parcel due to it not being a borderline childs game only intended for children.

I want to hear why Wind Waker is better, we already established that:

>dungeons (A staple to Zelda games) are significantly better
>more minigames
>Wolf adds more variety to the base game
>More items to use
>Combat is all round more in depth

The atmosphere/story are subjective so I won't list them, what objective elements do you think make Wind Waker better than TP?
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>>147080921
Well, I'm gonna fix that collage up quite a bit with some stuff.

But most people agree there might be two factions of Sheikah. Ones who dove too much into the Fused Shadows/Majora (Shadow Magic in general) and ones who kept serving the Royal Family. This might give some credence to the differences of Impa being nothing more than a handmaiden and the clear screwed up nature of the Shadow Temple (but that may just be because of the constant wars).

There is also a prevailing theory that this supposed rogue faction intermingled with the Gerudo, hence the red-hair of the Twili, but we don't know as the Gerudo still exist in the Child Timeline as of FSA. But it is possible.

I'll compile a bunch of stuff later today and post it though in a more concise and well put together manner than that pic I posted. It's just a theory however and nothing more. It's one I personally believe, but most of the stuff I'll post is just theories and open for discussion and personal interpretation.
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>>147081116
>This is how I've always seen the Kokiri/Fairies, but it's ultimately just a theory and probably means nothing.

I feel like Nintendo wants to talk about it like this or they wouldn't make everything so vague yet imply connections.

It's kind of like when you discuss rumours about videogames before the internet, except there's more logic to it. But at the end of the day we can't really confirm everything.
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>>147078898

Why do Zeldafags shit on Dark Souls so much? He never even mentioned Souls games.
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>>147079861
there's an eye in her dress mate
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>>147081246
Twilight Realm is also the only place in all of TP with automatic doors, techno barries and platforms, holograms, etc. and they get around by warping.

If anybody wants me to compile some stuff on some possible theories I'd be more than happy too or try my best to subjectively and personally explain some stuff later today.
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>>147081469
It's part of the meme.
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>>147081469
It's a commentary on the fact that most casual gamers that scream GIT GUD tend to think that only Dark Souls has deeplore because it's all abstract shit
learn to maymay
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the fact that midna has no nipples upsets me greatly
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>>147081492
I'm aware, I just pointed out one of her original designs was a straight 1:1 of the Sheikah Symbol. I'm going to better compile it later today, I've got to eat, get some work done, and take a nap likely. I'll be back on to fix it up in a couple hours among some other potential theories and things.
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>>147081609
Under the shadows.
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>>147081609
Seriously, she's completely nude yet she has no lewd bits
Also, first for I WANT TO FUCK MIDNA
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>>147081246
I always liked that Twili magic looks like Tron shit. Magitek is the best kind of magic. If there's more of that in the new game, I'm all for it, especially if it's connected to the Sheikah.

One thing I don't like though is that Midna's true form just looks like a blue human. It just doesn't seem to fit with the alien feel of the other Twilit stuff.
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>>147081609
Twili's mammal glands are located elsewhere. Probably between the legs. And as it can be quite difficult to suck on something there, i believe it must be some sort of elongated shaft. That's why she covers it.
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>>147081609
Would you feel better if she let you watch her lay an egg?
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>>147081609
>>147081740
That isn't her skin, it's like a shadow covering, on top of her having more clothes on top of that.
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>>147081747
I agree with the form thing.
I wish it was more out there.
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For any UK fags, there's a Hyrule Historia on ebay for £13.50 ono + £3.30 p&p
I'm not the seller, but theres a disturbing amount of anons that don't own a copy
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>>147081747
They supposedly are the interlopers that were Hylian. Of course they could have been affected by some sort of mutation.
And the magitek shit you talked about i like too. Maybe this connects them even more with the Sheikah, as they dabble in technology seen in many games.
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I want to see this guy again in a future game. He looks pretty cool
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>>147081747
>If there's more of that in the new game, I'm all for it, especially if it's connected to the Sheikah.

Have you been following e3? It looks like it's one of the main motifs and themes of the game. We've had a huge amount of it already in only the beginning area.

Considering what we've seen in past games related to the Sheikah I would assume things like the Gossip stones, made of rock like some of the new tech, are magitek too as well as things like the Lens of Truth. Then you can extend that to Midna's Mask which is stone too. Of course they added shittons of blue Twilight Tron lines to everything too. Maybe its related to the blue timeshift stones because of the similar color and time manipulation the Sheikah Slate can do.

tl;dr I just love how they tied all the aesthetics of the Sheikah together.
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>>147082165
Dead as fuck
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>>147081797
>futa midna
This made my erection even stronger
>>147081850
Do Twili lay eggs?
>>147081858
But if she's wearing like a shadow covering, how come we still can't see her nipples poking through? That covering must be awfully thin
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>>147081609
Maybe she just needs to get exited to see them.
>>147081740
Well she's got a skirt on. Probably for a reason.

Also, get in line
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>>147082436
>>147082397
holy shit.
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>>147082251
So is ganondorf, but his bitch ass keeps coming back. So is Gohma, but that nigga keeps coming back. I could go on.

>>147082397
>>147082436
MOOOOOOOOT
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>>147082397
>Do Twili lay eggs?
Once a month, one huge dark speckled egg.
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>>147082397
>But if she's wearing like a shadow covering, how come we still can't see her nipples poking through?
nipple tape or pastie

>>147082436
HIROSHIMAAAAAAAA
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>>147082397
Shit I never realized I just saved the sample

Fixing now
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>>147082208
>Have you been following e3?
Not as in to video games as I used to be.

>that huge fuck off eye
I swear if my girl Impa is not in this game, I'll be fucking pissed. Either way, it's about damn time this franchise actually did something with the Sheikah.
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>>147082436
please stop saving samples
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So what are the odds of a demo releasing?

I've just completed Skyward Sword for the 3rd time (it's my 3rd playthrough of the ENTIRE series, yes, meme games included) and it's still not even fucking July.
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Where are Impa's nipples!?
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>>147082534
>So is ganondorf, but his bitch ass keeps coming back
Warlock curses work that way

> So is Gohma,
Fuckers just a big spider

>I could go on.
Pretty sure I could reply in kind all the way throughout, I just think Agahnim is a bit crap
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>>147082864
Drowning in fat
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>>147082801
ZERO
E
R
O
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>>147082801
None at all.
Just end it.
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>>147026742
TIME TO BOOT UP ALTTP
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>>147082864
Found the virgin.
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>>147082864
Doesn't matter, because Impa is not for sexual, you cretin.
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>>147083090
That is a man. Why would you sexualize men?
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>>147026742
All I needed to hear was the trumpets.
I.
Am.
Erect.
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>>147083090
What is for sexual if I must ask?
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>>147082864
In Zelda's mouth, often enough.
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>>147081297
>what objective elements do you think make Wind Waker better than TP?
Rupees actually mean something in Wind Waker since there's much more to buy and more reason to save them up whereas TP throws Rupees at you but only gives you
>Donate 1000
>Donate 500
>Magic Armor
>Hawkeye
>Special bombs which are given to you for free anyway and have extremely niche uses.

Even the most minor of characters at least have some character. Anyone outside of Midna in TP is equivalent or even less developed than a wandering Windfall NPC.

There is more variation in general when it comes to exploring. The islands themselves are widely varied from just an arena fight for an item, submarines, a boat fight, puzzle solving for items, seagull controlling, minigames and so forth all the way to mini dungeons. Granted, the reefs take up six islands, and then there are two islands that repeat the monster arenas.

In comparison, TP has its main areas which are the equivalent of a main island in WW, but its side areas amount to a handful of things:
Dark cave that has a couple turns with a Poe or two.
Hidden grotto uncovered by Wolf Link that gives you 50 Rupees.(WW's equivalent is the crow's nests)
The exception which is the one lava filled Clawshots area that gives you a heart piece and the ice sliding puzzle area.
You are almost never rewarded with anything worth keeping if you stray off the beaten path since it's usually just Rupees which are in overabundance to any player, and the two or three areas that do have heart pieces or insects aren't hidden at all.

Story in general has itself together. Helmarok and Ganondorf are legitimate threats during the entire game, while Zant is only really a threat when Midna's Lament happens and for the most part you're just trying to save a Ruto prince or cure amnesia in TPs story until you open up the Mirror and it turns out it was Ganondorf behind it all along. >>147072168 succeeds in explaining it in a way I can't.
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>>147083090
But this is the most sexually magnetic Impa of all.
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>>147083353
>Link fucking overslept again
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>>147083294
Link is for sexual.
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>>147083294
Never you mind.
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>>147083480
I fucking knew it. Fuck off.
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>>147082535
I want to fertilize Midna's eggs!
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>>147083654
Not how it works. She injects them into your anus with her ovipositor, and they latch on to your intestinal walls for about a month before hatching.
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>>147083397

>Rupees actually mean something in Wind Waker since there's much more to buy and more reason to save them up whereas TP throws Rupees at you but only gives you

And the Magic Armor > anything that you can buy in Wind Waker.

Also, that's such a minor positive of Wind Waker that in you listing it, it's clear to me that there is zero objective improvements that Wind Waker has over TPP.

>Even the most minor of characters at least have some character.

Subjective, there are minor characters in both games, what you deem as "character" is irrelevant to me and it's especially ironic when WWs "Naavi" is essentially a boat with the personality of a damp sponge. Midna is a legit GOAT Zelda character that not only serves the player in mechanical dynamics/gameplay/general tips but also has some deep back story surroudning her.

>There is more variation in general

I outright disagree. Both areas do variety of environments well (I fail to see how anybody would argue that Wind Waker has more variety in its environment but here you are), especially TP. Just because Wind Waker has it's barren wasteland doesn't inherently mean it's better, a prefer the more focused approach that TP has to its world design.

>Story in general has itself together

The story in WW is as basic and bare bones as it gets and it suffers because of it. Gone are any of the interesting/atmospheric moments or situations of genuine creepy nature that were found in OoT and MM, Twilight Princess thankfully returns to that form.

So far, all you've listed are subjective preferences that will always be present when you compare a Zelda game with a more linear (in design, not philosophy), compact and controlled game world as opposed to Wind Wakers empty see of padding and filler that would make Ubisoft developers cringe.
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>>147083353
I have no legitimate idea what that expression is supposed to convey
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>>147083654
Yeah nah. The game says they're more or less people with a weird suntan

>>147084278
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>>147060449
HEYO!
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>>147084278
I'd totally be okay with this if I got to fuck her before hand
>>147084970
still gonna fertilize her eggs
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>ONLY 6200 HOURS UNTIL BREATH OF THE WILD RELEASES
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>>147085271
How much in seconds?
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>>147085185
This artwork is atrocious.

>>147085271
STOP IT ANON IT HURTS
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Request the Google Doc to be updated with Korok locations.

Four have been found in the demo so far.
>one atop the Temple of Time
>one on top of the Woodcutter's abode
>one found by diving into the circle of lilies in the pond outside the Temple of Time
>one found by lifting a rock on a small spire north of the demo that had you wearing the Champion shirt
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>>147085321
2.232e+7
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>>147085321
2.4 million, I already posted that earlier KEEP UP
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>>147085185
What a weird head.
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>>147085462
*North of the starting location of the demo that had you wearing the Champion shirt
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>>147084806
>And the Magic Armor > anything that you can buy in Wind Waker.
The Magic Armor drains you of the one thing you never run out of at a pace that makes it unusable. Wind Waker lets you buy heart pieces, lets you buy sea charts, lets you decode Triforce Charts, lets you buy items to trade or decorate Windfall with, and so on. What does it let you do in TP? You are given Rupees to such an extent yet there is next to nothing to spend it on, so why even have any sort of cost at all if you're going to max out the player's wallet within a single cave? I literally had everything that could be paid off paid off at the time before I even stepped into the Goron Mines due to how many treasure chests I left in my wake filled with Rupees.

>Subjective, there are minor characters in both games, what you deem as "character" is irrelevant to me
Except the minor characters in WW all have stories or some form of backstory, a huge chunk of them have quests that flesh them out like the girl that goes from rich to poor due to you saving them from Forsaken Fortress which leads her to working to keep her father alive and tries to steal from her employer at night. Or how about the Ruto who braves water spouts and angry gods to deliver messages out of obligation to his friend despite not wanting to be anywhere near there? The confident kid who moved to Dragon Roost to train under the postmen and become the postmaster while also admiring Link and is bashful in keeping in touch with his mother? What about Beedle?

The closest TP has like this is Agitha, even the major characters like Ordon Dad who wants to be brave for his kid, Ooccoo scientist, and tomboy have only those as their character during the whole game. Yes, we all know Midna is the best and most fleshed out character of TP, but she's essentially the only one with Zelda's only real character being a proud but ruined princess keeping her country safe the only way she knows how.
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>>147085462
How easy is it to find them? Is there any clues to their location like a jingle smilar to Skulltulas? Or are they NES-styled cryptic?
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>>147086020
For some of them, there's a cloud of swirling particles indicating their location.
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>>147085462
>>147086020
>>147086226

Oh, I forgot. There's another Korok on top of a decorated pillar. I'm trying to find the video where it was found but I'm 90% sure it was a Treehouse video. Make that a fifth one.
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Should I buy it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49xoMa21MA&ab_channel=GameXplain
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>>147086759
no
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>>147086854
Not even on N3DS?
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>>147085919

> What does it let you do in TP?

Hey, if you want to hold this objective positive for Wind Waker against my superior dungeons, more depth combat, more minigames and more items in Twilight Princess then feel free I guess.

>Except the minor characters in WW all have stories or some form of backstory, a huge chunk of them have quests that flesh them out like the girl that goes from rich to poor due to you saving them from Forsaken Fortress which leads her to working to keep her father alive and tries to steal from her employer at night. Or how about the Ruto who braves water spouts and angry gods to deliver messages out of obligation to his friend despite not wanting to be anywhere near there? The confident kid who moved to Dragon Roost to train under the postmen and become the postmaster while also admiring Link and is bashful in keeping in touch with his mother? What about Beedle?

Twilight Princess also has its characters with backstories.

For example:

Beth - eth is one of the children of Ordon Village and the daughter of Hanch and Sera. She is somewhere between 8 and 11 years of age and can be found hanging around Malo and Talo during the early portions of the game. While she can be seen with Malo and Talo, she often thinks of them being quite immature. Beth seems to tease Colin, believing that he is not up to being the hero that he dreams to be. Beth seemingly has a crush on Link early on the game. Beth has aspirations to one day leave the village and live a life as a city girl in town.

See http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda11-twilight-princess-characters.php

For the rest.

I repeat, the only thing we can agree on is that Wind Waker has better usage of rupees? Lel
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>>147084806
>Gone are any of the interesting/atmospheric moments or situations of genuine creepy nature that were found in OoT and MM, Twilight Princess thankfully returns to that form.
>TPfags actually believe this
I enjoyed TP despite its flaws but the """atmosphere""" is a pale imitation of the earlier games. Pretty much the only area that comes close is the Yeti mansion and that's only one small fraction of the game. Neither WW or TP really have a strong atmosphere, although they're still good games for the most part.
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>>147086910
N3DS? Yes
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To make Zelda II enjoyable, and have me not being completely clueless, should i have a guide? The NES games came with a manual and they often had some sort of introduction and other shit that gave you some sense of direction. Is this the case?
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>>147084806
>I outright disagree. Both areas do variety of environments well (I fail to see how anybody would argue that WW has more variety in its environment but here you are), especially TP
We are not just talking about a variation in environment, we are talking about variation in general. Both games already have their variation in areas(Hence the "main island" portion I keep bringing up, it's the equivalent of going to Death Mountain or the Gerudo Desert), but my main point is WW excels in the side areas and exploration whereas TP fails spectacularly by not only giving you no reason to explore thanks to the copy and paste grottos that give you 50 Rupee rewards or caves with 2 to 3 Poes that also have Rupee chest after Rupee chest, but the few areas you should explore are pretty much pointed out since they're always right next to major landmarks and are the only ones with heart containers. To add to this most of the areas are massive, but they basically only have secret grottos repeated and a single Poe or two in a corner at night. You may get lucky and there will be an insect thrown here and there, but for the most part there's nothing to find, no reason to go exploring since anything you could get you already have maxed out, and the few times that's not the case it's extremely apparent it's going to have something special and be more special than normal.

With WW you are constantly finding many things in pretty much any area you visit:
Bottles
Rupees
Heart Containers
Sea Charts which lead you to even more things
Triforce Charts
Treasure items needed for side quests
Trading Gorons

There's repeat islands like the reefs, triangle islands, and the two or four upgrade islands. The rest are all unique islands with cave systems or mini dungeons to go through, and they all have different topography and ways of accessing caves or special areas.
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>>147087324
I would say use a guide.
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>>147087324
Some of the game is cryptic unless you talk to every NPC you see in towns.

I don't think anybody tells you that you cross the sea with the special boots but it's been years. Try it without a guide.
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>>147059116
My only issue here is the recycled animations.
Combat animations are not that bad, this isn't Dark Souls.

Though Nintendo could learn to do some proper blend animation trees so accelerations/transitioning to different animations feel more organic.
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>>147026742
>if it's added it'd be a slowed down piano version like the other song
This game is going to be so good but so heartbreaking
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>>147082251
He's part of Ganon, soooo...
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>>147087812
The overworld has ambient sounds, but I'm sure special landmarks, specially the motherfucking hyrule castle will have their own piece
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Tell me about yourself.
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>>147082165
>>147082251
You guys do know that this is just Ganon's human form (Ganondorf) going by another alias, right? It's literally just a human Ganon.
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>>147088035
He still dead as fuck
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>>147088025
I have a Link costume, master sword and hylian shield replica.
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Found an error with the Soldier's Shield in the Google Doc. The Doc says it's 6.
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>>147088025
I love Midna!
First for renaming /lozg/ to /midnag/
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>>147088235
>>147088329
What is it that really scares you?
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>>147088025
I love Midna and I believe everyone should give Fi a second chance, since it wasn't her fault Aonuma decided to use her as a repetition tool rather than as character for most of the game.
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>>147088449
>Have 4chan X
>Hover over spoiled picture.

NOPE WE'RE NOT DANCING THIS DANCE TODAY
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>>147088449
The idea of dying alone
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>>147088329
we better split this into 2 generals. the amount of crap is unbearable.

/fig/ and /midnag/ officially requested
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>>147088449
I have crippling arachnophobia, when I first played Twilight Princess on the Wii and was attacked by skulltulas at the first temple, I closed my eyes and waggled until they died.
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>>147088657
>>Have 4chan X
>>Hover over spoiled picture.
You know the native extension has hover as well right? You can even disable spoilers for pictures entirely
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>>147088025
>>147088449
Pfft. Zelda's had worse temper tantrums than you, punk.
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>>147088748
I don't have arachnophobia, but when i got to gohma i was so scared at it that i couldn't play the game. I waited about 5 years to play it properly.
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>>147088480
>>147088709
>>147088748
I see, thank you for your answers.

No go play the game you faggot.
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>>147088748
>waggled until they died
Sounds lewd to me.
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>https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/30/dfc-nintendo-nx-may-capitalise-on-largely-ignored-kids-market/

NX is probably going to be gimmicky as fuck

panic
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>>147077974
>disliking Hidden Village
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>>147089081
>No go play the game you faggot.
I'm looking for a controller on amazon since the dpad is fucking fucked on my current controller.
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>>147084806
>it's clear to me that there is zero objective improvements that Wind Waker has over TPP.


It makes you angry and butthurt therefor it is superior.

This game is literally the best Zelda game and I am saying so purely out of spite.

An anon's butthurt is glorious to see.
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>>147087497
>>147087453

What is a good NES emulator?
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>>147087324
Play for a few hours until you get a hang of the pattern of gameplay or exhaust all options to find the solution. Then use a guide only when you know you're stuck.
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>>147089081
Which one?
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>>147089412
JNES hasn't failed me but I don't have in-depth knowledge of emulation fidelity between all of them.
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>>147089559
You're supposed to know stuff.
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>>147084806
>The story in WW is as basic and bare bones as it gets and it suffers because of it.
As opposed to TP?

Zant wants to rule the Twilight Realm and Hyrule so he attacks Zelda's palace and she's forced to surrender and is locked up in a watchtower. Midna is stripped of her powers and finds herself with Link after his town was attacked. Link goes on an adventure to cure his wolf disease and save his friend, who he then learns is an amnesiac. He liberates the Gorons and the Zora, proceeds to reclaim the completed mask and fixes Ilia's amnesia but then is attacked by Zant. Midna is saved by Link and Zelda's combined efforts, Link finds the Master Sword and finds the shards to the Twilight Mirror and enters it, powering it up and defeating Zant before finding out Ganondorf was behind it all.

Link is living peacefully until his sister is taken from him and goes to rescue her with a group of pirates. He fails to save her and meets up with KORL, a talking boat. Through their travels they liberate the Islands of Dragon Roost and Forest Haven, areas where Ganondorf had sent his monsters to corrupt and destroy. Link then finds his home being attacked and meets the fish thing for the orb. Link passes the trials of the Tower of the Gods and enters the sunken Hyrule, retrieving the Master Sword. Link storms Forsaken Forest with Tetra and saves his sister while making his way to Ganondorf. It is revealed the Master Sword holds no power due to the sages being dead. Link leaves Zelda in the sunken Hyrule and begins on his quest to find and the sages' ancestors and leads them to fulfill their purpose while Link reassembles the Triforce. Once assembled Link attacks Hyrule all the way to Ganondorf and it is revealed he wanted to make the world his due to years of bitter resentment towards what Hyrule had.

They're both simple stories, TP just has Zelda sacrificing her well being while WW goes into depth on why Ganondorf was fighting at all. In TP he just wanted power.
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>>147089081
>>147088449
>>147088025
Why does the elegy of emptiness create statues of the original dead Goron, Deku, and Zora when wearing their masks, but Link's statue is a creepy smiling kid?
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>>147089552
Any game, preferably a zelda game. Don't fucking question me.
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>>147089697
Considering you can't even download a NES emulator on your own you shouldn't use a guide for Zelda II so you learn how to stop craving to be spoonfed.
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>>147089789
>In TP he just wanted power.
He wanted revenge on everyone for imprisoning him
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>>147089864
I can in fact. I just want to know the opinions of people on emulation, don't assume crap that is not evident in writing.

I have higan here, but it runs like crap on my computer.
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>>147089982
Right, my mistake. He killed several of the sages before he was locked up. It's been a couple years since I last played.
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>>147089835
Dumb theory time.

The Elegy of Emptiness creates statues of the soul of the mask, so I think this is meant to be the player because it's a cute Japanese kid if you look past its creepiness. I mean it's meant to be realistic. Technically you're the soul of Link and the game was meant for Japanese kids.

I can't be the only one who sees it...
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>>147088449
My crippling fear of falling in love with someone and having her leave me again.
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>>147090243
Fear comes from the uncertainty that it may happen. Find peace in the certainty that it assuredly will happen.
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>>147090143
Rumor says Link's elegy was based off of Miyamoto's smile, so you're kinda close there.
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>>147090243
Try again!
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>>147090243
>again
FUCK
Less feels, more Zelda
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god damn why is every boss in TP so boring?
this one started as boring on purpose then it's true form is revealed and i was expecting a little bit of challenge. Nope, just spam A until close range then use your grapple to get to the eye and spam B. Repeat thrice.

I mean, christ, even the goron mini-boss in the goron temple was more challenging than any boss so far, and it was FUN on top of that.

also midna saying she is sorry at the end of the fight is cute
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>>147090634
>Those fingers
Wat
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>>147090838
That boss is fucking hype as shit, and that music when stabbing him is the toppest tier shit.
>>147090942
She's a mermaid.
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>>147090838
It's one of the main complaint about TP. Bosses and enemies are absolutely brain-dead AI.
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>>147090243
Ah fuck anon that hit close...
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>>147091005
Stallord was good at least
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>that time you were almost dead certain a game was pandering to you specifically
Seriously, it's like someone read my mind on what I think Princess Zelda should be, and made it real. She's almost perfect. The only flaw is that she doesn't have her own game. Also, I would've had less cleavage, but I can live with it.
>>
>god tier zelda
zelda 1
lttp
la
oot
ww
lbw
mm
botw (probably)

>good tier zelda
zelda 2
oos & ooa
mc
ss
tp
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>>147091005
>even with hero mode and ganon amiibo its still easy to not get hit at all
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>>147073349

It's actually in Hyrule Historia, so gtfo
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>>147091149

Put WW in good tier where it belongs and put botw in good tier as well because the hype for Twilight Princess was nearly identical for this game and look at how it turned out.
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>>147090838
my nager
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Good night. Yeah, it's clearly morning.
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>>147091357
>because the hype for Twilight Princess was nearly identical for this game and look at how it turned out.
this fucking guy
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>>147090838
>tfw that is my favorite boss aside from all of Ganon and Zant
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>>147091357
How about you put a dick up your ass, huh?
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>>147091309
HH is fucking fanfic tier garbage
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>>147091357
>and look at how it turned out.
Great?
I liked TP a whole lot
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>>147091584
But it's Miyamoto and Aonuma's fanfic, which makes it better than yours.
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>>147091437
>Goodnight
>Yeah, it's clearly morning

But anon, it is clearly 2:00 pm in that webm
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>>147091584
It's literally not though
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>>147091437
>>147091437
>my fucking face when the 11th heart doesn't create a new row

FUCKING HYPE.
>>
>>147091437
You have a really hard timekek with clocks huh?
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>>147091691
Fucking timefuckery.
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>>147091658
no, mine is superior

downfall timeline -> after four swords adventures
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>there are now namefags and tripfags in this general
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>>147092120
and timefuckedfags
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>>147092120
We really should nip this in the bud now.
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>>147092120
You must be new to /vg/. Go lurk other generals before sperging.
>>
Your reaction when instead of Heart Containers, BotW uses the HW leveling system?
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>>147092268
I knew it was inevitable. I just assumed it would take longer than this.
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>>147092315
You still got heart containers in Hyrule Warriors.
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>>147073848
It's funny, because when that first piece of artwork of Link and Fi was released, I, and probably a few others, noticed the similarity.
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>>147092120
>caring about that
But honestly they should stop that shit
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>>147086962
See, the thing is that most of the characters like the one you listed only have one or two things to go on and that's it. Beth was the one who was shouting at everyone when you were playing with the slingshot and she hated village life while blushing when Link talked to her. This level of character depth is equal to the pot girl on Outset Island. She transfers food or drinks while holding the pot on her head, she's friendly with the community and acts like an older sister/mother when you speak to her. If I remember right her mother taught her how to balance the pot on her head, I know she tells you why she's doing it, and she dotes on you when you go to do something dangerous.

Literally anyone from Windfall has more depth than half this list like that one shy guy who stays on the edge of the dock watching people come and go, saying it brings him peace, and is especially interested in your comings and goings. How about the really friendly guy who wanders around but is too shy to confess to the daycare woman, but acts all stoic whenever he's speaking to you and eventually man's up the courage and confesses and becomes even jollier? What about Lorenzo who is passionate about taking Pictographs and urges you to see the world after his wonder of exploration, but he can't do it anymore due to his old age. Then you can catch him with the one lady at night and he's extremely embarrassed and bashful to have his relationship exposed and was rather secretive. What about the man who is startled by any noise at all and basically completely shuts down for a moment as he can't assess his situation due to being in constant worry of something bad going wrong at any time?

Yes, Midna is a great character, and Zelda has a good moment at the start of the game, but outside of them TP characters have nothing going for them besides looking weird or a title. "Ilia is a childhood friend who cares for Epona and Link but is rather stern." That's a major character.
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>>147092619
>Midna
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>>147092727
>this guy went as far as setting up a secure trip
Fuck off
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>>147092841
>literally complaining he hit # twice
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>>147092619
>Midna !2vlFukDhqg
>Midna 2 Fuck Dog

lewd
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>>147093094
i read it as
(!2v) I (want to) fuck da hot qt grill Midna

i mean i do but my confirmation bias is out of hand
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>>147091584
>it's stupid so it can't be canon
Keep being in denial.
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>>147092268
I think it should be even more alarming for people who are familiar with /vg/ it's basically the sign of our imminent downfall into further garbage.
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>>147093424
ikr
>my fanfiction is more stupid, so it is better canon
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>>147079861
I've compiled this a bit better, it might not still be perfect, but I'll wait until the next thread to post it, since this one is nearing it's limit.
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>>147093642
/tf2g/ has tripfags since ages and it is the most strong and long lasting general on the board.
Just ignore them and don't give them the attention they seek for.
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>>147093782
>compiled by the game staff
>fanfiction
Pick one.
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>>147093949
I think it's better if we just get rid of their bullshit right from the beginning
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>>147094060
ignoring them is how you get rid of them.
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>>147094060
One day, you'll realize that butthurt attitude is exactly what they want from you.
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>>147094060
I think it depends on how the tripfags work. Some of them are inherently bad despite years of "this is anon board blah blah blah", if they're being LancedJack or Taiga, yeah ignore them, they'll hopefully go away, but if they're actively contributing to discussion or using a trip to better reply to people, then by all means I say let them do it.
>>
New thread where
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>>147093965
>not the first game
>fanfiction

Pick one.
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>>147095676
I can make it if no one else is.
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>>147093965
>zelda
>lore

Pick one.
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>>147096237
That's not how you do it. You just go on and do it.
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>>147088449
Death, for sure.
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>>147096080
>>147096327
Would you two stop, jesus.
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>>147096237
please do
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>>147096561
>stop me
>stop him

Pick one
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>>147096080
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>>147096482
I do that to avoid potential double threads; give someone who's making one a chance to cut me off. Also let people suggest thread themes, though I didn't make that offer this time since my Zelda pic collection is still quite small.

Anyway, new thread:

>>147096607
>>147096607
>>147096607
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>>147096561
>>147096651
>stop him
>stop me

One pick
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