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MONK ABS

>>146989663
that's poop
kiss your self my gaymen

>Steam must be running to...
IT'S FUCKING RUNNING YOU MORON

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post good builds

>>146980047
Not him but when I first posted about her that was entirely what I hoped would happen.

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>>146990085

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>>146989923

>>146990189
That's the most future proof alchemist build desu
When we get R9 he can be a Wiz3 Ele3 Alch3 and still pull his weight while also crafting the best potions

>>146990308
>When we get R9
ayy lmao

>he can be a Wiz3 Ele3 Alch3 and still pull his weight
nah. Wiz3Ele3Warlock3 will be the meta and that build will still be shit

Working on a A2 QS3, should I take falconer if Im going for musketeer? I already fell for the QS3 meme, don't want to fall for more memes.

>>146990514
Are you going to PVP? If so, no. Take scout.

If you're not going to PVP, yes. Take Musketeer.

>>146990502
It's probably just someone who realized halfway that having an alchemist was more useful than playing the most boring cookie cutter.

>>146990514
>I already fell for the QS3 meme
I'm sorry anon. I swear I tried my best to help /vg/ anons avoid that noob trap but they don't always listen.

>>146990514
You have a lot of choices after Archer2 QS3
Falcon -> Musk (General PvE)
Archer -> Musk (Single target bossing build focused on Kneeling Shot)
Archer -> Falcon (General PvE)
Scout -> Musk (PvP)
Rogue -> Musk (Single target bossing build focused on pure STR and Kneeling behind)
Are all good and have their niche

>>146990754
>Scout -> Musk (PvP)
Laughinghunters.jpg

>>146990856
>having a pet
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>>146990856
>>146990908
>focusing PvP on a PvE game
laughingsplitshot.jpg

>>146991014
>pve game
>the only updates being released are a quest every week or so on average and ENTIRE MASSIVE PVP-BASED GAME SYSTEMS
woahkay!

>>146989663
Based

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Anyone need to be added to the whisper chatgroup?

>>146990753

I like it fine for now, but I expect it to fall off late like lots of people have said. It's great for farming low density mobs for rare drops.

>>146990754
>>146990602

Don't care about pvp, just curious which skills benefits from circling.

>>146990514
go SR2

>>146991253
How many people are in the main one? I'm afraid I might be in the wrong one.

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>>146990085
futureproof

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>>146991319

>>146991253

Me.

>>146991453
PM Shieruu.

>>146991256
Circling and aoe attack ratio help:

Multi-Shot 10~15.
Cannon Shot, Cannon Blast, Shootdown.
Covering Fire, Snipe (arguably).
SR skills, but you can't have falcon and SR2.

Also a LOT of your party member's skills. This is the main reason to go falcon, not just for your own damage.

Falcon makes braindead QS3 gameplay quite a bit more complex. This may be good or bad depending on whether you liked the braindead gameplay or not.

>>146989663
Do you have a larger version of this? Google can't find it, thanks.

>>146990856
anyone have that webm of Lolipantsu instagibbing that Scout Musketeer on his Hunter?

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It's 5:30 in the morning and I'm talking to this stupid cat for 100 times hoping it'll prompt some hidden achievement.

>>146991829
Do you get a title for that?
I only know of the firestarter and rider ones.

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>>146991793

>>146991991

I'm trying to get this achievement:

http://tosdatabase.net/us/achievement/101021/

Honestly, I don't know if this works. Only clue I got from it is that Dae-Gil is supposedly a cat and this is the only cat NPC I found. Maybe it won't work, maybe it's not Dae-Gil, maybe it was removed but I don't really have anything else better to do at the moment.

>>146991354
if she goes FF that's literally a good build

>>146992020
This is great, thanks.

>>146991991
There's an achievement where you have to talk to some cat 100 times.
That's the cat, normally, but I've never seen it in game: https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147308

Has anybody found the exact number from those "find the number" pillars? They seem to spawn pseudo randomly in high level areas and I'm curious what happens if you find the right one.

is that character select button broken again or is it just me?

>>146992308
>>146992184
Interesting. There is so much weird hidden stuff in this game, I love that aspect of it.

>have a squire
>set up tent somewhere
>join a 130 dungeon boss rush
>it's guaranteed someone will teleport to your tent when dying
This is fucking hilarious but I kinda feel bad since they are wasting 1 run for pressing the wrong button.

>>146992639
Their own fault if they are bad enough to die desu

>>146992639
is there a button to teleport to squire's tent?
i've just been right clicking my face.

>>146993008
if you die you can respawn at the tent instead of the spawn point

>>146992639
>This is fucking hilarious but I kinda feel bad
So why are you doing it

>>146993008
If you die you have the 2 standard option (normal respawn and crystal) or the possibility to respawn at the squire's tent.

Swordman only need one more buff: reduce the armor x weapon penalty to 25%, seriously, dealing o50% less damage with a spear because enemy has cloth is weird. 25% is a okay penalty.

how can i fix the loading screen stuck ?

>>146993216
I'm not stopping to set up my tent in places far away to a Vakarine Statue just because people are retarded.

>>146993365
just switch weapons :^)

>>146993365
someone suggested earlier that they have a class that throws cursed weapons with effects like taunt or deprotected, i think that's a better buff.
dealing less damage to cloth with pierce really doesn't seem like their biggest issue.

>>146992020
>Other party members can wipe out entire room of mobs in seconds if swordie just stands in center, swashes his buckle, and holds C
>He refuses to take the hint and it becomes a couple-minute clusterfuck instead

You know what we call people who pick a class and refuse to play its role? Monks.

>>146993659
Do not bully the koenig.

>>146993659
But then what is a Monk's role?

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>>146991829
>>146992184
Tried it, except the cat is in West Siauliai Woods for me since I'm a Diev3. Spammed the space key for a while but nothing seemed to happen other then grrgrrrgrgrgrgrgrgr

>>146993906
To reroll.

>>146993906
to get buillied

>>146991735

Thanks for the input. I just hate the idea of eating a damn character slot for the fucking hawk.

>>146993906
Buffs
Heal
Support
Tiddiejobs

only do 'dps' when there is a RuneCuck+Cryo

I don't know if it's related, but when enchanting hats do you have a higher chance of getting a 2 or 3 lines if you rerolled also from a 2 or 3 line headgear? I never got a 3 liner from a fresh enchantment, or is it just that rare?

>>146993567

Skills are locked into a specific damage type.

Look, I try my best to overcome this with cartar stroke (strike) and skyliner (slash), but the punishment to my main skills is too much to handle when the other skills are on cooldown.

Trahs mobs dies easily, but 130k cloth monsters is a pain in the ass.

>>146994214
random and rare

>>146994214
i'm not sure about that, none of my 1 line items have gone above the 1 line they started on
i rerolled a bad 3 line item into aoe attack though

>>146993949

According to some translation, it's not exactly "talk" to dae-gil 100 times, but to "annoy" dae-gil 100 times. That might be it.

>>146994228
Try being Bokor with leather mobs.

We used to have Tet Malak La for those occasions, but IMC decided we weren't even allowed to have that.

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How can DPK be real if monsters have predetermined loot on spawn which can be checked by Oracles?

Checkmate atheists.

>>146994973
Its only predetermined based on the amount of kills in the zone

>>146994590
The cat has some dialog lines.
These are normally Degil's lines:
ETC_20150317_003570 Grrrr...
ETC_20150317_003571 Whoa!
ETC_20150317_003572 Petty human being! Come pat my head meow!
ETC_20150317_003573 It's the person Degil warned about. Be careful meow.
ETC_20150317_003574 Meow~

>>146994973

A lot of people have white ribbon decoration boater now since the DPK 50k per channel info was leaked.

>>146995104
What? isn't DPK a meme?
I always thought that the drops systems was with percentages, like in the Monster Hunter games

>>146995223
Some items use the DPK system.

>>146995184
Yes... THAT'S what was leaked.
Certainly not some method to obtain items.

>>146991735
There is nothing complex about falconer. It's just circling when there's alot of mobs, then hovering when circling is on CD. That's it.

>>146991991
Wait what firestarter and rider achievements? Tell me more.

>>146995641
You're forgetting you have to call back the falcon after every action and you can't just do it right away, you have to wait until the action is done and sometimes they just lag out. You also have to decide when to use circling for most efficiency and in general you have a lot more buttons to worry about than if you just went a3 or scout.

Maybe complex isn't the right word, but it certainly is more inconvenient and gets in the way of the 100% braindead qs3 gameplay that came before it.

>>146995184
>per channel
Doesn't that mean if you see some retard hunting infrorocktors, you can just sit in his channel and killsteal him? Since it's based on channel, he can't leave otherwise all his effort would be wasted.

>>146995940
There's a series of XXX Rider titles for using the water slides in the ferret forest zones over and over. It goes like Newbie Rider, Veteran Rider, and Tired Rider, I think?
Firestarter is for lighting the torch in Royal Mauso Workers Chapel 100(?) times.

>>146996278
>100 times
Fuck that. There's also a waterslide in zeraha or seir rainforest, one of the forest zones next to it, I forgot which one exactly.

>>146996275
Yes if you're a meanie.

>>146996278
>Firestarter
It's Oil Sack Collector, Church Lamplighter and Lamp Maniac for 60/180/360 lamps.

>>146996278
>>146996421

http://tosdatabase.net/us/achievements/

Is there/How is the raiding or equivalent in this game?

That's basically the make or break point for me.

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>>146996782

>>146996636
Wow, that's a pretty shitty localization.

>>146996782
Why are you even here?

>>146996782
there is not

bye

>>146996782

Earth Tower function like raids but you need a very dedicated group for it.

>>146996667

>pay taxes 100 times
>Noblesse Oblige title as a reward

>>146996935
It's alright. But Legwyn's "Starlight Collector" is much cooler.

>>146996782
There is Earth Tower which pretty much is the PvE endgame. It has 20 (40 soon in korea) floors and gets harder as you go further up the tower. So far only a single group in korea has cleared floor 20 and nobody on iToS has even gotten to the halfway point. It's less about mechanics and actually being good at the game and much more about figuring out silly set ups to do things like grant you perma invulnerability to get past the heavy damage intake and abusing anything you can to get past the ridiculous DPS checks. It's a pure numbers game and doesn't look particularly fun.

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>go dungeon
>look at buffs
>SHARED SWIFT STEP

>>146997213
this and RMT to get crazy gear/attributes

>>146997301
dun worry brah i got da attributez

>>146991253
How many are there?

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>>146997374

>>146997301
>>146997374

is the 25% crit rate shared?

>>146997213
>So far only a single group in korea has cleared floor 20
the fuck bullshit is this
there's numerous groups of floor 20 clears considering how many of the drops are on the fucking market
not to mention theres more of them per server

>>146997556
None of the ET drops are tradeable and the single group that cleared it once hasn't even managed to repeat it since IMC immediately nerfed Melstis right afterwards.

>>146996667
>9000 gimmick points
>feather hat reward
FUCK I'M DOING IT
What gives gimmick points?

>>146997541
no. that's the joke

>>146997727
Any of the gimmicks in the lv210+ zones. If you are high enough level to do them you would have come across them already so just keep leveling.

>>146997727
Stupid stuff in maps in the 200 range.

Like match games, the pendulum thing, etc.

do I have to be 40 to join a guild? Gotta be to do pretty much anything else

>>146997213
The only reason why so little amount of people have cleared earth tower 20F is because it is a fucking slog of SHIT

Recently a decent amount of people have started clearing it, thanks to a few buffs and updates to certain stat systems/classes.

>>146997541
fuck off

>>146997969
No

>>146998019
It's just numbers, that's literally all there is to it. The few mechanics it has aren't particularly interesting, nor challenging to execute. Provided your party comp isn't trash it's only a gear check.

>>146997926
>>146997956
>just hit 190
Well it's going to be along way off. Just for reference, how fast do you gain gimmick points, realistically? Is over 9000 going to take me over a fucking year?

>>146998064

i bet you're the kind of faggot that uses reflect shield then cries about swift step

>>146998246

You could say this about any kind of raid nowadays. FFXIV is using the same formula for over 2 years now.

>>146998353

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-of-gimmick-rewards/256584/

Every gimmick gives like 1-5 points and all of them are limited on a daily basis. Some you can do 8 times a day, some once per day.

>>146998382
FF14's raid design is much closer to WoW and has actual fight mechanics though, that's a very bad comparison to make. Gear isn't the defining factor in those raids, it's all about figuring out and learning the mechanics.

>>146998498
>the dream is over

So now that I have my token, I'm gonna try this posted build from last thread: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4131773e.1a2a345561.1323364a.112a36435565.152334
I have to go cleric2 before krivis though, don't I?

>>146998640

>Gear isn't the defining factor in those raids

It is, everything is a gear check granted that you at least know your rotations.

>try to change characters
>the button doesn't do anything
>can't even log out, have to quit out to change

>>146998950
Looks bad desu

>>146999315
>go with the necromancer NPC
>get stucked in the loading screen forever

>>146998950
You don't have to do the circles in any particular order, you can go do Cleric -> Krivis -> Cleric -> Krivis just fine if you like.
I wouldn't recommend that build though, Krivis 2 is a huge waste in my opinion and doesn't really get you anything special. You take it just for stronger Zaibas but at R6 you could take Druid instead which has Carnivory and would completely and utterly destroy the damage Kriv2 gets you. Kriv in itself just feels like a waste together with Diev. You have no use for Daino since you don't bring much in terms of first line buffs and Zalciai isn't going to do anything since you won't spec SPR. I would recommend dropping the Krivis entirely and going Diev3 + 1 rank of either Druid or Priest.


>>146999120
Manipulator was the only real gear check since the expansion, everything else you could do with the gear from the previous raid tier granted you knew how to push buttons.

>>146998950
Do either Krivis or Diev, not both.

>>146998360
I the kind of faggot that will fuck your mother tonight.

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I got interested on Kino recently, but I don't know much about the class.

Is wiz3 necessary for Kino? Iirc all of his spells are channeled, wouldn't it be useless?

How is the overall dmg output of a Kino? Is it decent enough to have fun or its pure suffering?

Also, assuming that I go Wiz2Kino3/Wiz3Kino3, which classes I could take to finish the build?

>>147000203
Not gonna answer that since you save thumbnail pictures.

>>147000203
Channeled spells still get fucked over by knockbacks.

>complete 25 merc daily quest
>don't get my achievement reward title even though it's lit up
This fucking buggy game I swear IMC.

>>147000203
Kino
Is
Not
DPS

It's a CC class, they do fuck all for damage. Channels get interrupted if you get hit without Surespell up. It's fine for soloing up to a point because they lock mobs in place while you just slowly whittle away at them, but their damage output is complete and utter garbage compared to any real DPS.
The two popular Kino builds are Cryo3Kino3 for even more CC, and Wiz3Kino3War for CC into warlock damage. Either is fine, pick what you think you would prefer and stick to it.

>>147000203
surespell stops gpole and pp from being interrupted by any attacks.

>>147000203
good at pvp
good for killing trash mobs
bad for killing boss so don't dream of wb ever and you'll have difficulty doing solo dungeon rushes

it's getting heavily nerfed though

>>147000203
For PvE? Their damage is mediocre.
For PvP they have p good cc, but going to get nasty nerfs if we ever get an update.
If you go wiz3kino3 you could go lock, I guess. That wouldn't be too bad.

>>146999551
>You don't have to do the circles in any particular order, you can go do Cleric -> Krivis -> Cleric -> Krivis just fine if you like.
Don't you have to spend all the points before changing classes though?
Honestly, the big thing I care about is going full int and not being support bitch prime omega like priest3 tends to be.
I'm somewhat less inclined towards diev anyways because of the whole having to maintain a resource thing.

>>147000203
Wiz3 does nothing for Kino unless you really want to waste a circle for a 50% magic buff.

>>147000753
>50% more damage on everything
>waste of a circle

>>147000681
they nerfed cryo's subzero shield without giving us the corresponding buffs from the korean patch, so we'll probably get the update that ruins gravity pole

>>147000493
>>147000573
Yes, but why go wiz3 in this case, since you can get Surespell uptime 100% on c2 already?

>>147000667
Nerfed even in PvE? For what reason... I mean it's already weak,isn't it?


I guess Kino is more of a PvP class which isn't my thing, thanks for answering anyway.

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Why do doomposters do the things they do? What is their endgame?

>>147000753
>Don't you have to spend all the points before changing classes though?
No, you most definitely don't.

>Honestly, the big thing I care about is going full int and not being support bitch prime omega like priest3 tends to be.
Cleric2 Diev3 X is the prime DPS Cleric while still being credit to team build. You can finish it up with either Druid2, Druid PD, or Priest PD and be good to go. If you don't want to think going to buy wood once every couple weeks then fine, but the "resource management" is not a big deal. If you just really want to roll Krivis because you like the costume or whatever then that's cool, go for it, but don't go into Krivis expecting good damage. Zaibas falls off ridiculously hard and is completely worthless in AoE situations.

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This defense set is amazing.

+0 s.royal guard armor
+0 s. royal guard legs
+0 guardsman shield
tyla gauntlets (quest item +18 def)
+0 gemless superior bandit boots

>>147001028
>Surespell uptime 100% on c2 already?
IF YOU'RE CHANNELLING A SPELL AND YOU LOSE SURESPELL, THEN IT'S NOT 100% UPTIME
YOU NEED 10/10 SURESPELL TO CAST BOTH PP AND GPOLE WITHOUT IT RUNNING OUT BETWEEN THEM
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK YOU
also quick cast 50% attribute is really good

>>147000753
>full uptime +50% damage
>waste
t. theoryshitter

I really wish theoryshitters would play the game instead of theoryshitting

>>147001491
hi theoryfag
+50% damage doesn't apply to kino skills. you're theorycrafting a build that gets the +50% damage

>>147001694
>+50% damage doesn't apply to kino skills
uhmmm

>>147001161
Why didn't you just go full superior royal guard?

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This place is fucking haunted and I just took a cursed picture and uploaded it on the internet.

>>147001976

I Have to work on the rest of the set, but tyla gauntlets gives more def and 3 plate is enough for the bonus, so, more flee is better. But yeah, I'll look for a superior royal guard boots to use with my vubbe meme

Care to critique my build that I'm working on? The purpose of this build is to create a shinobi that uses sword and can AA so it's not entirely reliant on burst.

I'm not thinking that this build is going to be super strong but at the very least, viable because of subpar burst, subpar AA damage, subpar tank, etc.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/vg89fjy8ks/

squire is so I can repair my rapiers but I don't know if it's worth taking squire + fencer vs corsair 2.

>>147001694
it applies to literally everything that's considered "magic", even your auto attacks benefit from it lol

>>147001694
>+50% damage doesn't apply to kino skills
Ayy

Is there anything worth in Pendulum minigame?

>>147001156
>No, you most definitely don't.
They actually changed that then? I definitely remember being forced to spend before I could advance to a different class way back.

>Cleric2 Diev3 X is the prime DPS Cleric while still being credit to team build. You can finish it up with either Druid2, Druid PD, or Priest PD and be good to go.
Druid2 or Druid PD does sound kinda neat. I keep somehow placing PD as paladin and not plague doctor

>If you don't want to think going to buy wood once every couple weeks then fine, but the "resource management" is not a big deal.
I didn't realize how cheap they were, honestly. I thought it was gonna be like 100-200 a piece.
Diev feels like it'll be weird to lose, but aside from how neat Zaibas is as a spell, I'm not particularly attached to the idea of Krivis.
I presume the cleric2 skill stuff in that linked build still works fine?

>>147001694
>+50% damage doesn't apply to kino skills
ptgmm

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>>147002294
>This build

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>>147001694

>>147002093
I wish I kept my warps
>>147002294
Tbh you only need 3 gunho. Lunge>Toucher, 1 flan is nice.

Level 63, when does the fun stuff start

>>147003006
once you reach Fedimian the games pretty fun

>>147003006
never
uninstall

>>147003006
Around never.

>>147003006
LVL 99 here

I'm killing a fuckton of lvl 25 Varbs to make a shit shield and sell it because I'm poor. Still not fun.

LVL 99 out

>>147002492
Ibre Plateau has ibre armor, Nahash has canine head decoration I think, and Cranto has Kranto Bracelet which gives decent mdef and some SP.

>>147003129
Don't sell the shield, sell the skins.

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Any Corsair C3 here?

Tell me the difference between Jolly5 and Jolly15 (or 10). I'm running Jolly5 at the moment and I love the extra drops every now and then. I don't particularly care about the silver, I just want the mats and recipes.

I'm conflicted in going Jolly5 with DPE or Jolly15.

>>147003129
Atom here

Stop being a scrub and don't imitate me you pathetic 4chan neckbeard

Atom out

>>147002495
Yeah, the Cleric2 part is pretty much universal for INT clerics. If you take lots of SPR instead you want less Cure and more Deprotected/Safety Zone.

>>147003182
>Cranto has Kranto Bracelet which gives decent mdef and some SP.
not him, but thanks for this.

>>147003182

Thanks, anon.

>>147003182
>>147003363
Just get glass bracelets. You can at least sell those when you're done with them.

>>147002869
Alright. I made the changes.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4mvbuj1acl/

Is there any particular reason why 3 gunho is enough? Also, anything else that needs changing?

That Alchemist from Nahash Forest who don't like Vaidotas... She's the sister of the Chronomancer master? both are Winterspoon.

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>>147002093
I remember someone making a ToS creepypasta back in iCBT2. Shame that I didn't save it.

>>147003343
Nah, it's gonna mainly be INT, but I'm debating if I should put some into con eventually though.

>>147003363
You don't really need the SP to be honest. Glass Bracelets have more MDef, are far cheaper to upgrade, and a hell of a lot easier to make.

>>147003695
Have a random DievDoc build. You will want some CON, yeah. How much depends on what kind of content you want to do and what kind of gear you are going for, but usually around 18-20k HP at level cap is good to shoot for as a cleric imo.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117775e.1a2a345561.112c375a6a75.152565.14253541

Does Isbality additional damage works like elemental damage (static damage addition) or raw physical damage?

>>147004060
It's physical damage that only gets added when you are fighting a demon, all the "type dependent" damage lines are like that. So yes, like raw physical damage. It's what makes it actually good.

>>147004174
Thanks anon.

>>147004060
>>147004174
It gets added after crit just so you know.

>>147004174
No.
Physical damage can crit, while any extra damage bonus such as elemental, critical damage, damage against x is added after.

>>147004060
>>147004174
Its not quite physical damage. Type specific damage comes after critical hits 50% bonus in the damage formula, but before the other % multipliers. Same as elemental attack.

>>147003860
So do CON later on then?
Does Diev really get access to those teleport statues on a brief cooldown and a piece of wood? How do they work?

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>>147003664
Stop it Koenig!

>>147004801
They work exactly like Basic Warp Scrolls or the TP Warp Scrolls if you've ever used them. Pop one and it lets you teleport to any other statue. It also saves the last location you used one of them and lets you return there once, completely free of charge.
So let's say you are grinding in Storage but need to repair, what you can do is craft your own statue, use it to teleport to Fedimian (costs silver), and then teleport from the goddess statue in Fedimian right back to the one you crafted in Storage (doesn't cost anything). After you teleported back the statue you crafted yourself breaks and you have to craft a new one to do it again. 1 point in it is plenty, it's pretty nice.

i love how i managed to get manamana recipe, but the grind for the mats is even worse than it was running the 200 dungeon

>>147004853
What are you talking about? I'm not Koens̢̛̋͂͗ͧ͌ͩ́̉ͦ͋͗͏̴̬̟̯͇͚̳̲̰̝ę̷̖̻̠̰̟̤̦̞̱̹̝̗̮̈̃ͩͨ̒ͫ͛͋̊̈͆͋̈́̅͋̀̀̚̚͞ͅṇ̻̦̼̆̅͗ͩ̎ͬ̽̔̉͑́͑̈́̒̈͊̽ͫ̀͘d̶̨̨̘͕̪̠̣͕̘̩̬͙̟̬͎̱̲̈̇̐̋͌͌ͧ̉͢͞ ̨̛̦̹͇̮̭͙̫͇ͫ̈́̀͋ͦ͗ͯ̽ͧ̏̔͡͝ͅh̵̵̸̟̻̜̜̤̞̫̫̳̥̤͕̪̠̰ͤ̈́͛̇̊̊̊͘͠ͅē̢̡̡̛͖͓̝͚͍̜̞͍͍̗̟̞͈̲̜̥̻̖̉̽͂̓̎̉͐̉̐ͪͣ̃͞l̛̇̓̍ͯ̅͏̯͍͍͢p̻̫͙̯̜͕̣̹̹̞͈̲͖̙̾̐̿̇ͦ̈́ͮ͂͢͝͠͝͡ͅ

>>147005182
Only took me 3 hours to get all the stingers, while fighting bots for spawns.

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>when you're not the tank and woodspirit bullies only you

>>147005089
Welp, you've sold me on it.
Cleric2 will make it worth it.

>>147005391
Archer struggles. Too much dps.

What's a good accuracy rate for pvp?

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>>147005760

my next characters going to be a2 hunter3 falconer

>>147005328
i'm clearly doing it wrong. is there another place other than vilna forest? i'm sticking around the vulvini farm and channel hopping but it is still taking forever.

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>>147004853
w͇̦͎̝̠̯̝̜̟͈̱̰̺̖̹̆̀̀̀̽̓̚̕͝ḣ̸̴̡͙̹͓̳̟͚̠̹̩͋͋̌̏̋͜e̶̛̍ͤͧ͂͗́ͥ̏͒͒͏̷̠̜̗̬̱̪͓͉͔̗̠̼̭̙̣̤͕͢n̵̡̫̭̳̭̟̲̫̼̥̫̺͓̪͍̹̲ͨ̊̇̀̈̃ͫ̄͡ͅͅ ̶̮̖̭̱͖̯̲̩̠͙̫̹̩̏̒͆ͩ̌̈̇̕͢͠d̗̞͇͈̄͗̍ͫ̑ͤ͌̋ͬ̔̑̅ͫͨ̏̂̕i̸̤̫̫̼̤̙͎͚̗ͧ̃̾ͮ̋͛ͣ͟͞d̵̝̳̤̦̦ͪ́̾̆͊͐ͬ́ͫ̇̇͘ͅͅ ̶̧̛̯̻̦͙̖͓̦̹̘̣̗͇̖͚̠̩ͦͫͩ̋̀ͦ̿͐ͥͥͬ̎̔ͣ͋͛́̉̀͢s̴̨̨̻̹̩͔̫͍̗̥̪̯̪͙̺̪͕̞̝͎͛̿͒̑͌̓̃̑̒͊̀̂ͭͯh̷̗̖̥̠̺̋̎͊ͫ̾̈́̏ͥ̓̓ͭ̍͗ͧͮ̎ͦͣ͋e̵͔͖̳̬̼̥̠̺͉̙̥̺̓ͤ̒̆ͯ̓̀̄̎ͬͦ̾͑̋͑́̑̅̀͘͟͠ͅͅ ̄̍ͥͯ͛͋ͥ̄̎̈́͢҉̢̫̖̳̘̬͡ḑ̴̴̩̲͙̬̝ͣ͑ͥ̓ͨ̃ͨͯͦ͑͛̐̆̉ͨ̽͞͝i̶̸͔̗͕̤͈̦̤̦̪̺̬̲ͬ̓ͬͮ̿̊͋̎̿̐͝ͅę̴̡̦̟͉̖̗̝̯̟̮͈̝̪̲͗͗̒͆̏̋ͣ͆ͤ̈ͪ͘?͚̺͔̣̜̭͈̤̪͉͗̍̍̀̒ͦ̋ͫͫ͘̕͜͡

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>>147006380

I just disconnected from the game. Now I can't open up the game again, says failed to download list file.

>>147006669
Congrats anon, you are free

>>147006214
I recall seeing a guy in dungeon rushes that was A2Hunter3Falconer2, he was pretty high level as well (260+).

>>146990514
Is AA QS3 that bad?
IT was going to be my next char.

>>147003306
allegedly Jolly Roger drop % = Skill level

>>147005926
con until you're comfortable then max dex

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- Bunshin no Jutsu appears to be changed. The skill no longer says "creates x clones", where x was equal to skill level. It now says "increases damage by x %", where x is 10 times the skill level.
- Two new instances, mission_abbey_uphill 'Uphill Defense' and mission_f_3cmlake_84 'lake mission'. Uphill Defense is available at level 120, and Lake Mission is available at 240, the latter appears to be part of the Saalus mission queue.
- A bunch of TP related items. Light salmon hair color, featherfoot hair style (male), Silvia hair style (female), and swordsman 3 costume (male and female).
- Bokor master now sells an item called a Zombie Capsule.
- Glass Mole card changed from giving +[]% physical attack for 10 seconds when using an SP potion to only lasting 6 seconds.
- Manticen card changed from giving +[max] movement speed for 5 seconds when using a Stamina potion to only giving +[max/2].
- Chapparition card changed from giving +[]% magical attack for 10 seconds when using an SP potion to only lasting 4 seconds.
- Nuale card changed from giving +[] magical defense to giving +[]%.

>>147006214
I'm already a2 hunter3 falconer1 going on falconer 2 evantually. It's really bad in certain areas like ground bosses but it's fun to play.

>>147007064
>- Glass Mole card changed from giving +[]% physical attack for 10 seconds when using an SP potion to only lasting 6 seconds.
>- Chapparition card changed from giving +[]% magical attack for 10 seconds when using an SP potion to only lasting 4 seconds.
Still more than enough.

>>147006837
It's a farming build desu.

If you get it for farming then you're golden, but if you're expecting late game damage out of it you will be very disappointed at 230+

The other problem is that the type of farming this build became popular for (130 dungeon solo speed runs) are not worth doing in iToS because they are nerfed beyond belief for us.

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>>147007064
Looks like the star symbol is lost when posted on 4chan. The +[] is +[star], the +[max] is +[max star] (which means no stacking similar cards), and +[max/2] is +[max star/2].

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>>147006380
i don't wanna do et anymore

>>147007064
>- Bokor master now sells an item called a Zombie Capsule.
WHAT

YES

IS THIS

YES PLEASE IMC PLEASE I FUCKING NEED THIS SO BAD

I wish more people did the 217 dungeon for exp, such a comfy dungeon.

any guilds on dedpedia recruiting? I've tried PMing Lolipan and Jinsae but they are forever AFK

Cryo3 next week!

>>147008050
foe has like 5 slots i think, should just ask in discord

>>147007064

source?

>>147008050

If you want to get in contact with jinbae it's probably easier to pm him on discord.

>>147008294
I would but you faggots don't link the discord in the general post.

>>147008050
Futureproof is full right now. Sorry.

>>147008050
CuteNotLewd might have a slot open. Whisper Plasmagica.

>>147008397
Dunno how to get a new invite link, otherwise i would. should be one in the last couple threads though, it gets posted all the time

>>147008050
Loli's on now but we're full again, you'd prboably be first on the wait list though but you should probably try for CnL or Clover if you dont want to

>>147008427

You aren't plas why are you posting on his behalf

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Is there a possibility to trade these for an arde?

>>147008832
Around 700k sounds fine for it, so yeah. Just need to find a Kriv3 that wants to do ET

>>147008832
uh. No. That monster gem isn't worth very much. Honestly, you could just farm it out. you're about 200-250k away from an arde dagger.

>>147007064
Where's the source?

>>147008643
I never said I was Plas, nor was I attempting to post on his behalf. All I offered was a suggestion.

>>147009038
I see, thanks btw
I only need 100K more, I took that ss like 4 hours ago so I think I'll just buy it.

>>147009265
Just rush the 90 dungeon when you're 160 since you won't have any other dungeons to run at that level.

>>147009103

so did you just decide you're now the recruiting manager or something? sigh

>>147009436
I meant no harm, but if you're bothered by my suggestion, then CnL shouldn't be in the OP as a /tosg/ guild.

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>>147006380
Thanks, I wasn't planning on sleeping anyway.

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Why don't you have 4692 magic attack yet?

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>>147009827
is that frost cloud doing 17k damage?

>>147009827
thaum3+those chap cards 10 starsRas+20 rod and full int.

give me time and i'll try

>>147009827
>CLOVER
Alright, which one of you memers is this?

>>147009827
When a class is THIS broken and they refuse to do anything about it

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>>147009827
You could easily do 10 million damage with a single rank of cryo as a runecaster with that kind of matk.

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>>147009827
How is this legal...

I used 22 points in STR, is that bad enough to make me Reroll my (future)Doppel? I didn't knew that STR was useless until recently.

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>>147009827
They literally don't play their game at all. Fucking IMC.

>>147009827
Tree of elememes, with the occasional heal slut/chrono and a fletcher for world boss only.

Why are we still playing?

>>147010726
i'm here to crash this meta with no survivors

>>147010726
Because you're a cuck.

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>>147005391
>when you're the support and you're getting aggro

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>>147009827
They dont ever plan on balancing the game right?

>>147009827
>513 likes
SLUUUUUUUUUT

>>147008832
what's the process of trading gems?
i picked up a psychic pressure gem i never want to use, but i'd have to set it on an item to trade it right?

>>147011002
Watch the mob hp be multiplied by 10 after 280.

>>147010525
thats fine.

>>147009827
DOPPEL MADARA ON SUICIDE WATCH

How to fix bokor class?
Give zombies bows.
Thoughts?

>>147010525
you've got leeway up to like 50 points honestly, its fine just keep going

>>147011147
>mobs have 1 million HP to compensate for Elememes
thanks IMC

>>147011498
This is exactly what will happen.
Thanks elememes.

>>147011319
>How to fix bokor class?

Zombie Spion archers that shoot Spiral arrows that freeze

>>147011319
i like it, or just let the bokors receive upgrades/buffs

>>147011147
>adds fuckload of HP
>no class viable anymore, not even elememe

>>147011319
Just increase zombie attack damage and attack speed.

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>>147011147
>Scale all DEX around Archers have full DEX
>Scale damage around Swordsmen being full CON
>Scale HP around every party having multiple Elememes with full +%m.damage cards

This fucking game, man. The card update is a disaster.

>>147011646
just party together :^)

>>147009827
ELEMEMES ON SUICIDE WATCH. DON'T LET IMC SEE THIS.

>>147011117
Honestly, I have no idea, I was ask when the opportunity of trading one presented to me

>>147005089
Is this actually how Vakarine works?
Because my Vakarine only works as a 1-time teleport to any zone with a statue and doesn't saves the last warp location like TP scrolls.
Maybe I'm missing some secret mechanic or I'm just doing it wrong.

>>147011827
I fucking told you guys IMC don't even play their game.

>>147011913
>mobs also oneshot everyone so you need 100% uptime stoneskin and pray that it always blocks

>>147005089
I thought Carve Vakarine didnt count for a warp back or was that a bug

>>147012043
>said mobs also gives 0.01% of exp

>>146995184
>A lot of people have white ribbon decoration boater now since the DPK 50k per channel info was leaked.

And yet the hundreds of thousands killed up until now since beta never dropped one. HMMMM.

It probably just wasn't in the game before.

>>147011195
>>147011369
Thanks!

Which skills are good to take on Highlander(assuming that I'm going highlander3>doppel2)? I took a look on the cookie cutter builds but most of the points aren't used, so I'm not really sure what to get.

consider they did nerf Sadhu and Divine might
will 80% of the player base quit because their meme cloud got nerf?

>>147012356
They didn't even nerf meme cloud and 80% of players quit already.

How to build the necro tree?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21271199.133f516a7585.153575.3545.253a4a95

Is this okay? Should I pick corpse gather skills?

>>147001161
Grynas?

>>147012524
>wizard3
>but with pyro instead of just going linker2
why.jpeg

>>147012524
this is how im building mine
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117a99.17213f41516a7585.11243545.15243442.253a4161748495

>>147012295
Cartar Strike to five, max crosscut and skyliner (still bretty good) and Skull Swing I think. tt least 1 cross guard

I'm not a Highlander main

>>147008643
>>147009436
Wow talk about fucking autistic. He just mentioned there might be a slot open, don't be so fucking defensive.

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I don't know how much longer I can keep on playing

>>147012356
Implying they'll ever nerf meme cloud without fixing the other skills

>>147013068
This is IMC we're talking about.

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IMC decides to close the game after 1 month

>hires 300 GMs to go to each major map and ban bots 24/7
>world bosses get debuff
>guild war neutrality removed but wars only last 1 day and have 3 day wait
>recipe and equip value goes back to CBT prices
>only way to get into the game is by being invited and key give aways by IMC

would this help or not help revive the game

>>147013121
Fuck, you're right. At least we have a long time before they do anything about it then.

>>147012891
fuck off evergarden

>>147013161
No.
The only way to salvage this game is private servers.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY IMC WANTS THE GAME TO DIE AND BE SHUT DOWN?

It's so we all get data based. See you all in game/soon to be real life cuties <3

>>147013161
can't wait for world bosses debuff, get fucked world boss mafia!

Are there any cuteposters here anymore?

>>147012654
>linker2
>when you really wanna grind to 280 easily but then quit cause you're missing a skill that's useful outside of grinding levels

>>147013161
guild neutrality was a mistake
They should have make it that if you put tower up somewhere then you cant go neutral.
What is the point of openworld pvp then if you have to go out of your way to do it.

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>>147013161
The game needs to be closed and re-released 1 or 2 years from now. The entirety of the graphics and interface need to be completely redone, in order to take advantage of multi-cores. Or just, you know, not have shit performance.

Then every class needs 2~4 more skills. And useless skills need to be redone. The stats system has to be completely made over. Monsters need to spawn everywhere on the map and be a lot more dense. Quests no longer give EXP cards, all levelling is grind-based.

If they do that, it would be fucking 10/10.

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Post you good build folder.

>>147013410
Dullahan doesn't get the debuff anon.

The other bosses are 4h timers with an 8h penalty so they can just alternate between a dps and a support character and nothing will change.

>>147013161
that literally fixes none of the content or class balance

>>147013432
No, they left with Kusarihime and now we're also never getting wugufixes.

>>147013515
>Quests no longer give EXP cards
Fuck that. Just buff dungeon exp and silver by 200%.

>>147013543
her builds futureproof

>>147013448
nad Pyro is?
out side of enchant fire i dont see how Pyro1 beat going Linker2
and dont tell me that muh memeball.
lv5 isnt enough

>>147013515
>all levelling is grind-based.
I wouldn't have a problem with that but they'd need to fix some shit first.
Like the awful dungeon finder that doesn't even let you move while queuing.
And give us an exp bonus party system like trickster online had.
With some kind of decent bulletin board to join and recruit for parties.
And ok, give me grind based.

>>147013432
cuteposters killed /tosg/

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>>147013543

>>147013410
This will only increase the price of WB loot as there will be less supply since nobody else is as autistic as them to camp it on cooldown.

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>>147013543

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I need help

>>147001161
Do swordies get a higher DEF as base and from armors?

My Rogue has +5 Grynas set and even with +5 guardsman shield I can't reach that Physdefense.

>>147013871
Actually not that bad.

>>147013854
tfw she (he) doesn't play anymore

>>147013493
They should make a pvp server.

>>147012524
Put a point in Disinter. It's fun using corpse pieces other than the default pot ones you buy(popolion parts?) and if you're too lazy to collect nice fragments, you can just go to bee farm and collect after each wave and get to max in a minute or 2 and just use pots to stay topped off.

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Nope only lewd

>>147013952
Try M M O T A N K . C O M

>>147013871
sorry was making breakfast

>>147013781
linker2 is easy to beat. anything that adds damage beats linker2 except when it comes to grinding mobs to level up

>>147013952
mmotank is the place to go for help

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>>147013543

>>147013652
>instance dungeon based grinding

We had this in iCBT and we had this in kOBT. It's the absolute worst, even worse than themepark questhubbing.

Dungeons should be for rewards, not EXP. Grindinding should be done out in the fields, with whatever people you can find to party with, sharing the same monsters and spawns. It's a competition.

Making grinding an instance based process means people log in, do dungeons/mission, and then log out. All the content out in the world goes unexplored and ignored. It also turn the game into a single player experience.

>>147013797
All you need is for spawns to be plenty and the monsters to be interesting. Monsters in this game are completely uninspiring. They abrely ever use skills, take forever to do aggro, and will not do anything other than chase and attack. They don't work together, buff one another, move to support, or have any interesting AI.

I remember someone in iCBT2 made a post about how Byalan Dungeon in RO alone had more monster variety than everything in TOS. Monsters who loot items, monsters that explode, monsters that don't move but have very long range, monsters that silence, monsters that support one another, etc.

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>>147012843

I'm actually not plas either, she wouldn't give a fuck

Need some help with my shinobi build. Aim is to have average AAs, average burst, average survivability, etc. Also, to use the sword.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4mvbuj1acl/

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Made my first level 7 gem

>Level 8 takes 5x a level 7 gems experience to upgrade

Uhmmm

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>>147014073
>Moesaki

>>147014259
>squire thrown in there
lmao

>>147007267
Not if frost cloud damage update dynamically.
Frost cloud lasts for like 10 seconds.
Only 4 40% of that will be buffed if this is true.

For my character though that is all about dat burst, 6 seconds is enough to improve most of my damage if there is decent FPS.

>>147014259
My sides.

>>147014379
cause Rapiers are constantly breaking. I don't really know what else to put into the c5.

>>147014310
Where did you get the other level 5/6 green gems?

>>147013543
that maximum amount of suffering

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>>147014073
Mind-controlled Koenig a cute!

>>147014529
Well, what's so funny? Is the build really that bad? Like i said, I'm not exactly look to be the strongest out there. Just average enough.

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>>147014259

I am fucking tired of those builds. He just picked whatever class he thought was nice and then put points into whatever seemed more useful, with no research.

Here, help yourself.

http://pastebin.com/pdw0Xhnw

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>>147014673
>Guide - by LoliPantsu

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What did he meme by this?

>>147014189
>They abrely ever use skills, take forever to do aggro, and will not do anything other than chase and attack. They don't work together, buff one another, move to support, or have any interesting AI.
Name one where they do.

I'll go first: This one. They do lay out heals for each other, lay down debuffs, and move in ways other than directly at you. There are even enemies that will aggro if you attack one of them. It needs work, but they do do those things.

>>147014773
>not wearing chicken costume

>>147014540
I made them all by collecting level 1 gems in DP2

>>147014820
>>147014189

>monsters that explode, monsters that don't move but have very long range, monsters that silence, monsters that support one another, etc.
Forgot this. All those kinds of monsters exist here too. This game only lacks thief type monsters.

>>147014124
but if you talking about add damage then might as well go Sorc1 just for cat buff and Muslim Bats

Pyro1 may be the best filter class at R2 but if you already filled that with Wiz2-3 then I dont see the reason to pick it.

You can get enchant scrolls from cubes?!

>>147014540
>>147014902
You can also try doing party quests, I get around 20-25 lvl1s after 5 quests
Idk if that's faster than dp2 tho

>>147014820
I've never seen a monster run on a direction other than directly to his target, or running away.

Some monsters do use heal tiles, but only on themselves. I've seen monsters run for heal tiles too, but they monster that lays them down doesn't put it in order to support the other monster.

>>147014937
Monsters explode on death, but only when they die. They don't spontaneously choose to blow up. And immobile monsters have like, no range.

>>147014673
Well, a lot ofl the advice was to take hoplite so I can get spear lunge but like I said, I don't want to use spear. So i circumvented that by taking attaque whatever on fencer.

I considered taking Barb 1 and 2 over Sword 2 and 3 but the attack speed buff didn't seem as useful without Corsair 2 whereas Swordsman's double slash just added another layer to my burst.

It seems that no matter who I ask, someone has something to say under the assumption that it's constructive. 3 days ago, someone told me that I should take S3>Barb2>Dop>Shinob because of the imminent KTos Doppel buffs. Then someone told me that I need Corsair and Barb. And then someone told me that Fencer's pierce debuff makes sense instead of having corsair. I've already rerolled twice.

>>147013996
Noooooo! Cassidy-chwan quit!?
I...

>>147013854
Nothing wrong with costume collectors.

>>147015239
Yes, its possible

>>147015153
thaum2 has the best chance to jack wb with reversi
pyro2 has the best damage in theory
notice something? there's no link1/2 for linking the damage. it's all about higher burst or something else. there's other ways to play besides going link2 so you can grind to 280 and quit

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>>147015249
A level 7 gem takes 172800 exp, or 1728 gems, it's time prohibitive to get a level 7 gem via PQ. (Takes about 1 week for a 5, 1 month for a 6)

>>147015568
Chuan?

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>>147015423
You've surely been given lots of bad advice, my friend.

Read that pastebin, it's actually very helpful. Extra levels of Swordsman only make you slightly better in PvP. Barbarian is good but falls off hard later, even with the ktos buffs.

In fact, all DPS on the swordsman tree is only for the sake of PvP. It's enough to burst down a player, but as monsters go up to 100~150k life later on, you'll not have enough damage to kill even a single one, even with all your burst.

>>147015423
>I've already rerolled twice.
stop letting misinfo agents win

lmao

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have you ever been hated or discriminated against?
i have

IS THIS GAME NOT FRUSTATION AND ACTUALLY FUN TO PLAY YET? I WAS TOLD TO STAY AWAY FROM IT

>>147015663
yes but we are talking about that build with Wiz3 Pyro1 Linker1

>>147013515
>Quests no longer give EXP cards, all leveling is grind-based.
Are you trying to make the game unplayable without a party at high levels or something?

I just want to switch characters without having to restart the entire client.

>>147016053
Just log out instead of going to character select.