/fog/ Fallout General

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1st for POWER ARMOR

Feminine penis

>something like - a game that uses a progression system that can be tied into stats and has a dialogue system that the player can make choices in
>implying Fallout 4 has none of this

It is an rpg

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Guys when I download the Contraptions DLC from here
http://local.grimtech.co.uk/files/Fallout_4_DLCs/
the .esm is always missing. help?

I cant use the codex installer as it wants the codex releases of the game and my game is legit.

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>>146858739

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th for nice view! Curie is CUTE!!

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best armor

>>146858835
but I know what an rpg is

that makes me an erudite fag, cuck

>>146858739
Fallout 4 also has no equipment degridation, shit VO, shitty dialouge, and a shitty perk system

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>>146858934

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>>146858603
You're a fucking moron.
It's not about FO4 being an RPG or not. It's about FO4 being a shitty RPG that strips you of choice and logical dialogue options. You can never play as anything other than 200yr old Lawyer/War Vet looking for their baby and the game hammers this point down at most every encounter.

>>146858954
>>146859036

As fallout 2 and new vegas, but no one keeps shitting about it

Yo so how do I finish the game with the minutemen and keep all the factions at peace?

I know there are vids for this but they're all really shitty. Has anyone here done it? These vids make it seem really complicated.

>Arguing about FO4 again
>When you knew what you were buying into with a Bethesda game
If you're not here for the porn mods and lewd shit then you might as well fuck off forever back to /v/ and keep shitting on the game there.

>>146859097
Except those games were good and knew when to put character motivation to the wayside and had no "press x to shaun" moments

>>146859148
There's no way to keep all factions alive.

>>146859097
Your choices mostly having very limited consequences is fine when you're a lone wastelander roaming around, that's fine. But in FO4 Bethesda in their infinite fucking wisdom gave you a whole faction to lead and several to influence and still thought it would be fine to apply the same, in some cases even more limited, consequences. That is not. Additionally your chosen skills and perks have no impact on the dialogue choices at all as long as you have enough charisma. That alone is unforgivable for a Fallout main series game.

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Thanks Todd

>>146859036
>It's not about FO4 being an RPG or not.

if you were following the discussion, you would know it is entirely this; some autist made the claim that fallout 4 was not an rpg because it did not have skill points.

I had to explain to him what an rpg was. then you came along and contributed nothing to the discussion. congratulations, you're literally worse than cancer. drink some bleach.

>Except those games were good
all roads lead to hoover dam
>muh choice and consequence

>>146859302
Fallout 2 good....
>shit plot
>broken system
>you could end faster than fallout 4 and 3
>Hated by most of the shiite of the fallout community back then, until bethesda made Fo3 and they started loving it
>Made with the worst that the 90's culture had, went from 50's setting to retard 90's KEWL jokes and retard shit like modern weapons and dumb 90's pop culture references

>>146859148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRIMM0BhUEU

>>146859669
Now you will say that you hate tabletop RPG gaming too, and the only best RPG ever is planescape... because it was made by avelonne...


You obsidiots are worse than Nolan and snyderfags

>>146859748
> value 446

i'll take it since i never have more than 4k caps in survival

>>146859748
or
>mutant slayers gamma gun
>ghoul slayers gamma gun

>>146858739
>a progression system

Non-existent. Enemies level with the player, as does all equipment, meaning there is no progression.

>a dialogue system that the player can make choices in

The player is incapable of making any actual choices in any dialogue in the base game. Indeed, one would not be wrong to argue that Fallout 4 has no dialogue system in an RPG context, and instead features a number of interactive cutscenes that ultimately result in the same outcome.

>>146859821
And some how its still better than 4 wow! Id rather have all that than a shitty halfbaked story, shit rpg mechanics, and a stupid son i dont care about ala david cage

>>146859775
>if you were following the discussion
Something you didn't do considering 1 of the posts you linked to was about the cover system and the other was abut it being a shit RPG.

Go play in traffic you abortion.

>>146859610
>>146859821
Okay well everyone but the institute obviously.

Also that video is a bit better, but do I really have to do everything in this complicated order? I just want the best ending possible in the sense that I'll have the railroad and BOS available at endgame so I can do their content too.

also when does the SS learn that Father is Shaun? because in that vid, after getting banished, he still talks as if they kidnappe dhis son and he doesnt know father is shaun

>>146859821
FO always had modern weapons
There were just more of them in 2

There's nothing wrong with having modern weapons either considering divergent timeline.

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Why are supermutant blowing themselves up
What possible purpose does it serve

>>146859821
>you hate tabletop RPG gaming
No because you can work with the GM. You can tell him that you want to intimidate, coerce or seduce the NPC to affect the conversation, fuck, you can even just RP really fucking well and get the same. You can't do that in FO4 and only to a limited extend in FO2 and NV. But the point is that you can. Maybe you don't have the 8 charisma that you need to win the conversation but maybe you have terrifying presence or cannibal or 10 perception or 10 intelligence so you can catch him making a contradicting statement. That is the very fucking base line for Fallout.
>planescape
If i wanted to read a fucking book i'd do just that.

>>146860209
STUPID HUMAN LIKE YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND!

>>146859821
Planescape: Torment is a visual novel. Avellone said this himself.

>>146859945
>no progression
>no choice
>RPG's have distinct dialogue systems

bold claims. patently false.

>>146860075
aww, did babby miss out on the big kids having a conversation?

lurk moar faggot

>>146860447
Well apparently you did miss out and are now sitting at the kids table throwing food at the adults.

And you wonder why you're down there.

>>146860209
the most "logical" reason would be that they breach settlement walls, and don't have a fatman/the knowhow to make grenades

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Almost lunch break and /v/Obsidiots are whining once again here at /fog/...

>>146860209
Well considering they can't pass along their genes and don't necessarily need to be alive for their race to spread, it makes a crazy kind of sense.
They live, "breed" and eat as a group, if killing themselves can feed the group, or help them capture more humans to dip in green stuff, they probably see it as acceptable.

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>>146860553
>are now sitting at the kids table throwing food at the adults.
>And you wonder why you're down there.

>>146860779
Way to prove my point you child.

>>146860553
>this salty over being told the definition of rpg

Fallout 4 has a cover system, just like many tabletop games have a cover system.

Why couldn't Black Isle into cover systems?

I blame Fallout 2 for Fallout 4

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ADA is the cutest Fallout girl!

>>146860896
Because they were more concerned with writing and not with courting the skyrim audience

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>>146860925
>acting self-righteous in a general discussing the latest game
I bet you get mad that people don't discuss civ 4 much anymore either

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>>146860879
fraid not

kill yourself faggot

>>146860896
Many but not all
It does have a cover system. It's called hide behind an object until the enemy reloads.

>>146861049
Shut the fuck up we're arguing right now

>Complete rite of passage
>Back at Far Harbour they're boiling a Mire lurk alive

Now I feel bad

>>146861049
I prefer Jezebel. She's such a tsundere cutie pie.

>>146861129
Still proving my point.

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>>146860925
>sinking ship that is Beth's most successful videogame

So what is your guy's favorite ending?

>>146861193
That thing was always there. Why are you fucking retarded.

>>146860925
>>146860989
>SAMEFAG!
>SAMEFAG DETECTED!

looking by the retard levels of autism is Walpknut or The Dutch Ghost from NMA and RpgCOdex

>>146859916
I thought those legendary effects were disabled for gamma guns

>>146861225
you have a point?

what was it again? just checking to see if you're paying attention. take your time. use your words.

Anyone get the Minuteman ending?

if so how much content from the insitute do I have to fail?

I just want to get the courser companion perk and whatever else I can get from them in terms of permanent bonuses

yes I'm a completionist

>>146861261
Brotherhood. Fuck those "we're evil and we don't even know it" Institute shits. And fuck those "easily exploitable nearly retarded Synths are more valuable than Humans" Railroad idiots. The Minutemen are fine, they seem to have a good mindset and just want to make life better for the honest people of the Commonwealth. Personally I think you should be able to directly create and alliance between the Minutemen and whichever faction you choose.

Minutemen do the farming and society building, Brotherhood does the heavy lifting, science, and military work.

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So Far Harbor = Bar Harbor?

>>146861554
drink bleach

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>>146861238
>implying I even like fallout 4
people are discussing this game because there's a lot to talk about it still
if you want to endlessly jerk yourself over past fallout games, the NMA is the perfect place for you

>>146861525
Why do so many people hate the Brotherhood?

I fucking love them man.
What happens if you end up going with them the whole way in regards to the Minutemen?

>>146861364
I know ill call him a samefag!
Nice bruised ego bitch

>>146861131
that is not a cover system, it is a player-only exploit

>8 beds in vault 13

>>146861525
you can put the minuteman to work with the railroad and BoS without both killing each other

>>146861487
>>146861676
>Ok Walpknut
>http://steamcommunity.com/id/Walpknut

>>146861554
No Shit Sherlock

>>146861504
aggro the Institute and you'll get Minutemen option.

>>146861554
This conclusion was made before the DLC even released. Allegedly if you go the place where the bridge in real life is you can find one broken and collapsed. I know you can see the forests of Maine off the coast, but you obviously cant reach them. It bothers me how far away it is from the commonwealth. Look at all that coast in between the two places that could have been content instead.

>>146861661
Seemed kind of weird to me because the implications were they didn't want the minutemen armed with artillery and wanted the farms subjugated.

>>146861651
This is also fallout general so we should be able to discuss any fallouts, sorry my opinion is so triggering to you

>>146861734
im sorry i dont know anything about your shitty overpopulated side of the country

>>146861818
that also means that discussion of fallout 4 is fair game
might as well complain that /feg/ is talking about fates

>>146861793
>8 new posts
how far can I go with the father and stuff before I can no longer nuke them with minutemen?

I also want to keep the railroad and the bos alive

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>>146861974
>railroad
>alive

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>>146861610
>having a tantrum because New Vegas 2 will never happen

do you even know why you're so upset?

>>146861734
Im not that person, but way to show how parinoid you are and how you cant accept criticism

>>146861974
follow the guide that anon posted above, you can get both BoS and railroad favors if you do right

thus keeping them both alive and in "peace" with each other

>>146861661
Nothing happens to the Minutemen. Same as nothing really happens to the Minutemen if you do their faction ending. Preston remains as the radiant quest giver and possibly companion depending on whether or not you activate the Institute evacuation alarm. Minutemen patrols still exist too. And after the game the institutes remaining forces decide to attack the castle for whatever reason.

You can even kill off the Brotherhood with them should you become a bumbling retard for some reason.

>>146861734
>wanting to let the railroad live

>>146861974
See above.

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>>146861690
>Shooting from cover is not the basics of gunfighting but a player only exploit
Ayy lmao

>>146861734
>72 games
I am not that poor

>>146861928
Sorry if i think waifu fagging is a bad discussion topic, jesus you fags would want this place to become like bioshock or ME general fuck

OK walpknut it is time to go back home, so you can play Dorkte may cry

>>146862147
It is a player only exploit in Black Isle games though

Does Frank Horrigan hide around a corner until the player reloads? Does the Master? Shit, I don't even remember there being a cover system in PoE. Cuck.

>>146862145
>>146862145
>>146862113
>>146862113
>>146862063
What's with the Railroad hate?

>>146862413
>Pillars of Eternity
>Shit gameplay thanks to Sawyer

Ok Walpknut, stop samefagging

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>>146862291
you're strawmanning like a motherfucker
i don't want this place to be a shitty waifufag general either
i also don't want it to become a NMA circlejerk
is that too hard for your brain to comprehend?

>>146862525
They put the lives of synths before the lives of humans and they don't even do a good job of it. They essentially kill the original synth through a mind wipe and make them believe they're human with false memories.

>>146862259
>doesn't realize that Obsidian gave up on Fallout because of the autistic fanbase

Hell, even Bethesda jumped onto another project ASAP, wanting to put the franchise behind them as quickly as possible. Catering to toxic redditors must be exhausting.

>>146862525
have you talked to them at all or just saw the relation to historical railroad? they're closer to ISIS than the underground railroad

>>146862413
Why would Horrigan, A Super Mutant mass of flesh and cybernetically grafted Power Armor parts need to hide behind anything when his skin alone shrugs off low caliber rounds?

And Master is attached to his control terminal and is already hard to defeat

>>146862559
>defending FO4
Such phillistines

>>146862559
but anon, he is from NMA and RPGcodex, the edgleord circlejerking shit there about

>bethesda hate
>CDPR hate
>Richard Gariott Sucks along with Ultima
>Avelonne is god, Interplay is Jesus, Fallout 2 is holy spirit

is the same since EVER

Clean up on aisle /fog/ janitors

>>146862664
Yeah, must be exhausting shitting out a low effort game and raking in millions in pre-orders alone.

You're fucking retard, m8.

>>146862526
>Shit gameplay thanks to Sawyer

Sure, blame Sawyer. He wasn't responsible for the lack of cover in all their other games though, was he?

>>146862698
>>146862698
>closer to ISIS
LMAO how?

>>146862632
they only try to free the synths, they never say synths are more valuable than humans or vice versa

synths are life just as much as humans are

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>>146862726
the only defending of FO4 I'm doing is defending its discussion, positive or negative
what you're doing is pointlessly arguing about something nobody cares about
you will never win the argument because you began on an impossible stance to begin with

>>146862525
They are a bunch of fools. Synths are legitimately machines programmed to be Human. This is why the institute can create Synths with specific intentions. Like Danse, he was programmed to be the ideal Brotherhood soldier and he was. Even the railroad reprograms Synths whenever they do a mind wipe and reset. Synths aren't supremely dangerous but it's a risk to keep them around in large numbers.

Gen 1 and 2 synths aren't a problem for me though. No different than a protectron or Mr. Gutsy. The problem arises when you give them "sentience" and disguise them as Human, Mayor McDoughnut is a good example. Or the Synth who was in charge of Libertalia, though that one was actually the Railroads fault. I went on a bit of a tangent there.

>>146862874
The main time I get the feeling of Synths being valued over humans is that they don't ever try to help out actual Humans, do they? And Glory is a self proclaimed Synth who puts Humans down consistently.

>>146862718
>Why would Horrigan, a brilliant tactician, use cover?

Training. He is expected to jump in front of the president to absorb bullets, which means he understands the value of cover.

The Master is super intelligent and telepathic. He should know better than to block bullets with his face.

>>146863087
>don't ever try to help out actual Humans, do they?
they will also fight centralized government from the BoS and Minutemen which actually helps the humans since DC and Vault 118 are the only organized human settlements

>>146862861
Pete Hines is losing his hair due to his inability to please everyone. I'm sure he's glad to be moving on.

Done, onto the next one. You even understand business?

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Any hot ideas on fixing this shit?
other than kill myself

>>146863318
Accept it Old Man.

>>146863318
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13823/?
This should help your hairline.

>>146863282
>>146863282
>>146863087
I just can't in good mind wipe out the Railroad dude. It feels like murder.

I guess this problem arises from the fact Bethesda has set in place a character for me to play as, rather than one I create myself.

How do I justify a decorated War Hero from the old America slaughtering a bunch of humans trying to stop slavery?

Not only that, but people who he's essentially become friends with, like Deacon.

Why would you want to kill Deacon.

>>146863289
Who gives 2 fucks about the PR guy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>146863282
>they will also fight centralized government from the BoS and Minutemen which actually helps the humans since DC and Vault 118 are the only organized human settlements

that isn't helping people

that is hurting people that are trying to help people

>>146863474
it's not slavery because they're fucking robots. tools that talk

>>146863552
I'm saying the minutemen and BoS actually help humans

>>146863474
>a bunch of humans trying to stop slavery?
Your toaster is not enslave
Neither is the PC you're posting from
Nor your TV

>>146859072
You can upgrade them while they're still provisioners so you can have a bunch of basic, naked protectrons waddling about then upgrade them into dual gatling laser/mortar sentry bots.

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>>146863512
this is why the people making the game secretly hate their fans

>>146863282
Are you implying centralized Govt. is bad or that the Railroad fighting it is bad?
I think the Railroad fighting it is bad. I'm not sure when they ever fight the Minutemen.
When they fight the Brotherhood however I got a feeling that they were mostly doing it to stop the BoS from destroying Synths.

>>146863474
I can tell you quite honestly that a war veteran should feel very at home in the BoS. He's a man who has likely slaughtered other humans already. The Railroad isn't trying to stop slavery, they're pushing liberation of machinery. Like trying to stop a toaster from being oppressed.

And I was never friends with Deacon, we went on a few missions together so I could test the waters. I left him at their HQ after I got ballistic weave.

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>>146863803
I'm sorry I don't like your boyfriend

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>>146863680
apologies, I misread your post

>>146863857

>>146863680

>>146863914
see, he's not even trying to hide his contempt any more

I blame reddit

>>146862792
Actually i love CDPR sooo yeah

>>146864012
Yeah, I didn't see it until after I posted because. I wouldn't have changed the post though, gotta get my hot opinions out there.

Anyone know how to make custom skeleton work for npc companion in fallout 4? I've changed path to edited skeleton and it shows edited in ck but it's default in game. thanks.

>>146863723
Synths have sentience. That makes it slavery.

Look at Nick.

>>146863596
>>146863857

>>146864180
>sentience
they're a copy/paste of a living person, and can have personality modes turned off

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>>146862664
this is why we are getting Skyrim Remaster + gamejam shit ASAP

The toxic shit led by Tagaziel was enough to piss both Obsidian and Bethesda

no fallout until 2025, thanks to reddittards and NMA + RPGCodex Death Threats

>>146864180
Wow, Anon. You found the 1 outlier. Thanks for the anecdote.

Their "sentience" is literally some guy getting bored and fucking around with them and sending them out to do whatever. College pranks like disassembling your teachers car and rebuilding it in their classroom is not art.

>>146864267
With some brain surgery you can alter the personality of a human too.

It doesn't matter if it's just a program, it's still sentient. It's capable of learning, it's self-aware of what it is, it has been programmed to think and feel emotions. It is extremely advanced technology.

If it thinks, feels, and is aware of itself, then forcing it to do something is slavery.

There is a reason synths become self-aware of this reality and wish to escape.

>>146864180
Nick is another programmed machine, made to think he is an actual person. The worst part is he was copied from a real person.
>>146864349
Who is Tagaziel and what did they do?

>>146864349
What, people have been clamoring for a Skyrim Remaster since Bethesda talked about how they made one to test the limits of the Xbone.

>>146864447
>>146864447
there is more than one synth like nick valentine


look at Harkness

Danse

etc

>>146864470
>With some brain surgery
key word. you're impairing the human if you do that. false analogy

>>146864180
Slavery is applying property rights to humans

Synths are not human. They can not be slaves.

>>146864516
Just because he's programmed and a machine does not mean he does not deserve rights.

Creating artificial intelligence and synthetic life and then not affording it the luxuries "real" life an intelligence has is incredibly inhumane and amoral.

>>146864638
>>146864638
They're human enough.

The only stuff they lack are the biological bits.

>>146864731
rights are a meme

the only law is that Mother Nature is a fascist cunt. the weak should fear the strong.

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>>146864843
>human enough
do you even know what human is

>>146864731
>muh rights
That shit is a meme from the medieval ages.
Go tell that raider raping your daughter about her reproductive rights.

Programming your coffee maker to decafe doesn't afford it rights.

>>146864843
you are free to anthropomorphize a synth, in fact it would be difficult not to, considering their purpose and function

that does not make them human

>>146864897
>>146864897
Epic, simply epic.

How was your Hobbes 101 class?

>>146864931
>>146864931
>>146864931
If you create a machine and literally make it into everything a human is mentally, but claim "lol no real blood XD not human I'll make it do whatever I want lol not slavery guise" you're retarded.

>>146865037
>Programming your coffee maker to decafe doesn't afford it rights.
Worst Strawman I've ever seen.

What's with the edgy anarchists in this general? Complete lack of moral fiber, disgusting.

That woman does have the right to not get raped, and that's why the Minutemen are here retard.

>>146864470
>It is extremely advanced technology.
And nothing more. It processes information. It simulates feelings. It is aware if itself and surrounding though, I'll give you that. But so is a dog.

A Synth wishes to escape because it is a simulated Human. and to properly simulate a human it must have humanlike desires. Humans desire freedom.

Despite the strong argument I have been making and the things I say about killing all Synths I do slightly agree with the argument for their freedom. Only very slightly. My opinion that they are property is leading. My strongest opinion is that they simply shouldn't exist. The institute should have created the first "sentient" Synth and thought "whoah now we've gone too far, back it up a bit." Gen2 should have been the stopping point.

>>146865068
>If you create a machine
See, there's the problem. You should not be creating that in the first place.

>>146865068
>How was your Hobbes 101 class?

not an argument

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>>146865068
please be troll

>>146865063
They are not literally human, that's not what I'm saying.

But a "creature" that is so advanced to the mental state of realizing that they're being forced to do things for someone else is by every definition, a slave.

Would you feel comfortable making horses pull carriages if they were completely self aware as creatures?

>>146865169
The same minute men that without your leadership devolved into raiders raping said daughters

nice argument

>>146863440
I have come to terms with my receding hairline, but I refuse to come to terms with my scalp not being attached to my head properly.

those 10 pixels of void are fucking killing me.

>>146863457
if only.

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>build shit in settlement on survival mode
>almost die from dehydration/tired/hunger

jesus fuck this difficulty just gets worse the more you play it

Just nuke the general for the day, mods. /fog/ needs a time out.

>>146865213
>You should not be creating that in the first place.
I agree.

The point is that they exist and we have to deal with them.

With how mentally advanced they are, they shouldn't be enslaved.

>>146865339
Have you tried making your forehead slightly bigger?

>>146865169
the Minutemen are in Concord

they remain there until the player lets them out and takes over.

who guarantees your 'rights' in the wasteland?

why should the 'rights' of a robot take precedence over the 'rights' of humans

>>146865334
>devolved into raiders raping said daughters
>>146865334
what

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>>146865341
>Putting the robot workbench on the roof.
Why?

So if I were to end up going with the Brotherhood and stuff

What do I have to do to the Railroad and Minutemen?

>>146865591
>Ugly as balls model
>looks like a birdcage with a ugly combat armor model
>skinny as balls

>>146865591
pffffffffffffthahahahahaaaaa

>>146865297
>Would you feel comfortable making horses pull carriages if they were completely self aware as creatures?

they are self aware though. they feel pain, they can learn, they have fears. I have no problem using horses as beasts of burden.

>>146865779
>skinny as balls
Why do you have skinny balls, anon

>>146865854
that's not was sentience is dude

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Is there a mod to cook/chem/scrap entire stacks of things at once? Because .... dude ... this is a little ridiculous. Carpal tunnel is a real thing.

This is without mods. Just maxed out farming settlements.

>>146865352
But anon, this website is a Human, you can't just enslave it to make your posts like this, and there's no way you can "nuke" it like that. Think of the moral implications! jk

>>146865468
The best way to deal with them is a laser rifle, I think. Unless you're more of a plasma guy.
They shouldn't be enslaved. They should be destroyed like raiders and deathclaws.
Barring that, shut them down. Program away their sentience. Or, in the edgiest scenario, create a 3/5ths compromise for Synths. Or a Separate but Equal law.Jim Crow laws for Synths. Call them Elder Maxon Laws. Really though, just shut down production and destroy the Synths that already exist.
>>146865770
You destroy the Railroad like you should. Nothing happens to the minutemen. They remain as they were. They are unaffected from everything I can remember, and my two most recent playthroughs were BoS and Minutemen.

>>146858764
you can use the setup.exe from another codex release and just skip the file verification and install to a temp dir. Then just copy the esm from that dir.

>>146865969
Just tap e and enter with a hand over each key.

>>146864349
>The toxic shit led by Tagaziel
What happened? I haven't been on NMA since FO4 was released to enjoy their butthurt.

>>146865969
Sell your veggies and buy adhesive shipments instead? Mash E like a madman? Use console to spawn adhesive, and, to be a non-cheater, throw away all your veggies and water?

>>146865591
See thing makes me really glad for how big and stompy power armor is in 4.

>>146866014
>They remain as they were. They are unaffected from everything I can remember,
That makes no sense.

You essentially become 2nd in command of the brotherhood

and Maxson is cool with you just like, running a paramilitary group on the side???

also do I have to slaughter them myself or does the brotherhood do it for me

because I kinda like Deacon

>>146865969
>he does have the clicker in one hand, and a finger over the enter key while pounds his dick on the numpad enter key when crafting

Its like you cant even fallout. Also why do you need 5k~ adhesive for anyways?

>>146866181
>>146866061

Fuck it, I'm just going to make a mod to change the recipe to use 10x the ingredients for 10x the output. This'll take like 3 minutes.

>>146865468
>With how mentally advanced they are, they shouldn't be enslaved.

The term slavery does not apply. They are not humans.

In any case, why shouldn't they be property? Synths are designed to be subversive soldiers of the Institute, in addition to being walking fleshlights that can be programmed with a range technical expertise.

They are primarily weapons. Why would it be beneficial to humanity to let them roam around without strict control or supervision?

Seems kind of irresponsible, to me.

>>146865969
I hear tell that holding e will auto-cook stacks of ingredients.

At least you have stacks of ingredients. I have two entire farms, fully manned, with nothing but mutfriuit, corn, and tato, and for some goddamn reason, the tato never gets sent to my inventory.

>>146866329
>Also why do you need 5k~ adhesive for anyways?

Just EXP farming, really. Not like the settlers are doing anything else constructive. I have more scrap than I'd ever need so scavenging is a waste, and Bethesda refused to add more settler tasks despite players asking for it last year.

>>146866321
Yeah, but even as such a high ranking BoS member you have basically no actual power. Same as being the actual leader of the minutemen you have little power over them.

And the railroad execution is the coolest shit. You show up, do a bit of fighting, then go to the railroad headquarters for a final breach and clear with some knights.

Do you think Canon Nate would feel at home in the Brotherhood?

>>146865950
sentience is the ability to perceive and feel things.

all higher life is sentient.

>>146866471
Your settlers are Irish and/or Russian.

>>146866471
> the tato never gets sent to my inventory.

Okay, I'm gonna blow your fucking mind. Watch this:

Settlers eat Tatos first. Every settler is linked to your supply line, and the tatos they produce feed your entire settler population for the entire world. You need to have at least 3 tato plants for every corn and mutfruit plant in order for it to balance out.

Yes, the coding is that retarded. Settlers only eat Tatos. If all the tatos are gone, they start eating other stuff. But always the tatos.

>>146866098
same circlejerk as ever, but now he mods falloutlore Le ddit

>>146866529
>>146866529
>>146866529
but I have to kill Deacon :(

>>146866696
Ah, neat. Thanks for the heads up.

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>hear all this shit about NMA
>decide to check it out
>every news article is filled with people desperate to hate bethesda
Jesus Christ these niggas are salty. I know we all have issues with Bethesda's games, but these guys take autism to a whole new level.

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>>146866375

Problem solved.

>>146866563
I think so, yeah. He served in the war with china as an Infantryman. Should be used to their lifestyle and following orders.

>>146866854
That's Deacons fault, not yours.

>>146866924
That post is just ignorant as hell too. Bethesda isn't digging their own grave they are piling on the profits right now.

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>>146866924
>Bethesda's literally digging their own grave
>by re-releasing their most popular game to date for full price on consoles with bethesda.net mod integration
lel, beth is going bankrupt lads

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short shorts and FALs when?

>>146867117
>Bethesda isn't digging their own grave they are piling on the profits right now.

It's more accurate to say they are tanking their reputation. Their profits will continue to skyrocket, and just like EA, their name will be dragged through the dirt by their own doing.

Nothing wrong with a Skyrim Remaster. But let's not pretend more than a few weeks of work is going into it. Which is fine, since it's free.

But the if they release another product like Fallout 4 .... well, everyone will still buy it. But Fallout 6 will be more like The Sims 4 in terms of popularity. The Sims used to be HUGE. Now it's like ... meh. EA doing their thing.

>>146867302
Summer shorts are already kinda that.

I gotta hand it to Bethesda.

They nailed the fucking Gauss Rifle in this game.

This thing is great.

>>146867297
at least you don't have to buy another game to get a copy

>>146865341
>two windmills just standing there on the ground
>fugly box building that uses the same wall type over and over
>hideous crafting area on the roof of a tiny shelter that shouldn't be standing
You deserve to almost die.

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>the workshop builder scripts are all compiled
son of a bitch

>all this railroad hate
man who knew so many fascists used this site

>>146867297
There's not gonna be any mods though
Only PC users can make mods, and PC users have nothing to gain from the remaster

>>146867908
>liking the spy movie idiots who just want to free a bunch of toasters and have no ability whatsoever to help the Commonwealth as a whole while they destroy two of the factions that actually have some capability to do some good.

>>146868150

I like how Bethesda claims all the mods that we have now will work fine with the remaster. I would say "Do they even know how mods work?" but judging from the state of bethesda.net, I think we all know the answer to that.

The script extender needing the version updated alone will break half the most popular mods.

would an alliance between the brotherhood and minutemen be possible?

no ending but the brotherhood one ever made sense to me

like the minuteman route is so silly

>go to preston garvey
>I NEED YOUR HELP TO GET INTO THE INSTITUTE PRESTON

how does that make ANY sense why the fuck would he be able to do ANYTHING

as opposed to ADVANCED MILITARY ORGANIZATION WITH HIGH TECH WEAPONRY, EXTREMELY STRONG INFRASTRUCTURE AND A FUCKING. AIR. SHIP. GIANT. ROBOT.

who would you go to if you were looking for your son???

also

>storming the institute with maxon
so badass

>>146867908

I like the Railroad's ideals, but I despise most of their members as individuals.

>>146868553
Couple that with no SE on consoles and the fact that no one is going to make non-SE versions of some pretty complex mods, relative to the crap F4 has.
A lot of people won't even bother playing Remastered after they take some screenshots to laugh at how much worse it looks than ENB.

>>146867908
They're just irrelevant. No ambition to rule/remake the wasteland like the other big 3, and their reason for existence goes out the window when the Tute goes boom. They'll fade away, or go fight slavers or something.

>>146868553
>The script extender needing the version updated alone will break half the most popular mods.
From what I've read about the remaster, it sounds like it'll be standalone. So at the very least mods and SKSE should be unaffected. It'll just be the remaster that requires everything new.

Alright guys so I'm confused.

There are three endings to this game in which the Institute gets destroyed. Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel, Minutemen.

Let's look at the last one. It's one of the endings mentioned on the wiki and shit and in achievements and stuff, so why is it treated like something super hard and time consuming to do?

I see these videos in here as literal guides on how to get an ending. Why do you need a guide to play the game? is it not self explanatory?

you just do things for the minutemen, how hard can it be?

>>146868937

Gunners would have been a better choice. Could have had them as a rival to the Minutemen and the Brotherhood as a rival to the Institute.

>>146868937
>go fight slavers
Now THIS is what upset me about this fucking game.

In FO3, the Railroad was there in the background, and they actually helped HUMAN slaves.

First off, why are there no human slavers in this game?
Second, why are there no human slaves?

In FO3 they did some actual good.
Now they just suck robot balls?????/

>>146869172

Desdemona seems to be the one insisting that synths need to be saved above all others. Deacon mentions he wishes the Railroad would help humans too.

>>146869034
There are technically two Minutemen endings, and unlike the traditional progression of the other two endings, neither are mechanically well explained to the player.

>>146869034
It actually is confusing because you need to actually be banished from the Institute to continue the Minutemen story which is never explained in the game

Had to shotgun blast Shaun to get Defend the Castle

>>146869034
The minutemen ending is supposed to be the safety net of the whole story, so players who piss off everyone else can still end the game.

>>146863914
>flowers
>potions
Pete Hines confirms Fo4 is Skyrim

>Prydwen arrival scene

Holy shit that just sent chills down my spine.

Why the fuck is the Brotherhood so damn cool?

>>146869172
I believe that bethesda left out human slaves on purpose. Putting in Human slaves and having the Railroad ignore them would have made them look like even worse a faction. Putting in Human slaves and the Railroad helping them wouldn't make the Railroad look any better than currently either, as the Minutemen would also definitely be helping to stop slavery and the BoS probably would as well.

>>146869545
>There are technically two Minutemen endings
Explain?

YOU HAVE 1 MINUTE TO CONVINCE ME THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL ENDING IN THE BEST ONE

>>146869854
I shot the tin can with my RPG and it flew right through it. Immersion forever ruined.

>>146870090
Why would I convince you of a lie

BoS is second worst, only Institute ending is shittier

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>>146867908
>fascist

name one liberal democracy in the Commonwealth

>>146870138
>>146870138
FUCK OFF RAILROAD SYMPATHIZER

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>>146870203
Railroad is pretty shit too

>tfw most boring faction has best ending

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>>146869968

-Minuteman ending 1 = Everyone hates u
-Minuteman ending 2 = the Railroad loves you, BoS Hates you
-Minuteman ending 3 = BoS loves you, railroad hates you.
-Minuteman ending 4 = Boos and railroad hates you, institute is your Pal
-Minuteman super duper secret ending 5: You make BoS and Railroad Friends, and you 3 nuke the institute

>>146870406

I'd slaughter Preston & Friends in the museum every time if their immunity didn't make it impossible.

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>>146870406
How do you get ending 5?

I already blew up the BoS to get Maxon's coat but I'm curious

>>146870406
Isn't 4 just never completing the main quest

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>>146870406
>No option to make them all get along
JUST

>>146870605
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_endings

>>146870605
I believe you do all of the Brotherhood and Railroad quests up until Mass Fusion. Then, you go to the Institute, shoot someone and get out, ostensibly blowing your cover (quest called "Burning Cover" I think). BoS and Railroad will tell you to go to Preston Garvey.

Usless fucking companion stole my power armor frame, how do i get it back?

>>146870090
They are the most widespread and powerful faction to be found. While they value themselves over outsiders they still help protect the wasteland by sending patrols to fight raiders, muties, ghouls and etc.

>Sat in Far Harbour talking to the Mariner with Nick
>All of a sudden Deacon bursts through the gate and tries to gun down as many fisherman as possible before being shot apart by the locals

What the fuck?

Also I've decided I fucking need a Deadeye Lever Action Rifle. Is there any way at all to try and farm for certain legendaris?

>>146870775
>BoS and Railroad will tell you to go to Preston Garvey
are you kidding me? how do they even know who that guy is

>>146870880
Further proof the Railroad shouldn't be aloud to exist.

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The new contraptions Dlc the belts don't move anything...
Anyone else getting this problem?

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>>146870406
>Nuka World ending 1

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>>146870874
Canonically, they have a dozen or so Vertibirds in the Commonwealth.

>>146871075
Are they connected to power somehow?

>>146870605
>>146870651
>>146870896
just follow the fucking Guide

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRIMM0BhUEU

>>146871137
Yeah, I honestly guessed there were only a handful. Like 8 or so. Even that few leaves them better off than any other faction in the commonwealth. The gunners are supposed to have some but I'm hundreds of hours in and have literally never seen one on 3 different characters. I've actually gone hunting for one in the areas they are allegedly found and still didn't find any. Made a quicksave and fought a BoS vertibird instead.

>>146871446
>>146871446
So basically I just don't do any turning point quests for the BoS or Railroad and then play the Institute up until Mass Fusion, upon which I just turn them in to the BoS?

Explain to me how this is hard to get without a guide?

>All this overly complex mechanical minecraft-dweeb tier settlement shit

For what purpose
Why would I want a mechanical thing that churns out armour or weapons?

>>146871960
because its your fucking job to rebuild the commonwealth, and make it better than the corrupt and dead NCR

>>146871960
its SOOO hella f*kin epic

>>146871960
I don't know. I bet Bethesdas dev team was just like"what about machines to manufacture stuff?"
>but why would they need that when you can just find it all or buy it?
"I don't know, I'm sure they'll find something to do with it or make a mod that helps."

>>146871446
I meant the Institute you fucking homunculus

>>146871960
Minecraft-like Autism

Most of thew builders you can create don't even make anything good.

>>146871960
On paper, the ability to manufacture armor and weapons for your settlers is actually awesome, especially if you're a Minutemen kind of guy

In practice, the costs for these items are idiotic and it's a million times easier to just go kill people and take their stuff instead

>>146871960
so they can be used to mod auto-butchers

how many of you fags sided with the minutemen?

>>146872471
No one did, this thread is Brotherhood only.

>>146872471
I'm just finishing up their story now

BoS = dickheads, but effective, but I really wanted Maxon's coat so they had to burn

Institute = Useless pansies and Shaun is a psychopath

Railroad = Unlike most of /fog/ I'm fine with them wanted to free Synths, the problem is they're a one issue faction, they don't seem to give a shit about anything else at all

Minutemen are boring but practical

why IS THERE SO MUCH TALKING ABOUT THE MINUTEMEN ENDING

IS THIS A NEW MEME

>Recon armor exceedinlgy rare as its best pre-war tech availabie
>only available through hidden locations or ripping the lesser version from atomfag corpses because they're sitting on an old submarine base

why couldn't they apply this idea to T60 I wonder

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>>146872282
>Let's build gauss rifles for a whole settlement!
>needs about 20 different materials and as much as 15 units of some of them for a single weapon

Might as well just cheat and avoid the trouble.

>>146872471
Institute

tried a Minutemen run on another playthrough, went Brotherhood instead.

Once DLC is out, will do another playthrough focusing on Raiders if I can. Just fucking about with settlement building while I wait.

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>>146872471
MM 4 lyfe

>>146872797
Because once the spurglords emptied out their testicles at the thought of an all power armor race they realized how retarded it all really was..

And no one liked the Railroad to begin with

And no one liked the Institute because they have a rational fear of being replaced by robots.

So they default to the Minutemen because fuckyeah settlements

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>165 hours
>only found 1 daddy-o
>only found 2 day tripper
>only found 1 x-cell

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>>146872471
One playthrough only.
While playing as LIGHTNING MAN using only a tesla gun and pulse grenades and wearing tesla armor with tesla coils chest mod and tesla bracers on both arms. I had an automotron named Zap-o-tron 9001 with full voltaic armor, a lightning gun, and a shock claw. Played minutemen because I had never done their playthrough before.

Went back to my main character shortly after.

>captcha features weed smoking spongebob

Anyone else having a bug where building materials randomly disappear during building?
I'm buidling in a settlement connected via supply lines and some of my resources just vanished. And I did not used all of them.

>>146873145
>rare experimental chems
>actually rare
its not like you need anything other than jet and maybe some psychobuff anyways

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>>146873145
>finished all of FAH HAHBAH
>only found 35 rounds of .45-70 ammo

>>146873407
>using chems at all
Enjoy that dehydration bozo

>>146873145
>implying you need any chems but jet, psycho buff and grape mentats

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>1 complete suit of T-45
>2 complete suits of T-51
>a shit ton of complete T-60
>2 complete suits of X-01

>>146873145
>no random encounter merchant with a stash of the good stuff at premium prices

fug

I bet the raiders at Nuke World will have a meth lab and at least a decent drug dealer

>>146873648
Anyone else replay that part to fap

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>>146873562
>purified water
>rare after the first hour of the game
wut?
also
>lead belly

>>146873648
I have so much fucking T-51 parts.
Not many complete suits, mostly missing helmets and left arms. Left arms seem more rare than any other piece for all armor in the game though. I've heard it's a bug but am not sure.

>>146873727
How deprived of human contact are you?

Best weapon for a crit focused build? Something like a lucky gauss rifle?

>>146871168
Connected, moving, no mods conflicting, and fresh save.

>>146874178
Are you using the belts and not the rollers? The rollers won't move stuff by themselves

Past that, I dunno, maybe store all the belts and place them again

>>146873969
Cornflakes pistol has the AP refresh on a crit, not sure if that effect is unique though.

>>146874313
Rollers nope
Did and done with multiple saves
patch 1.5.416

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Post robots

what if shaun isn't nick's kid

what if it's

the dog's kid?

>>146875160
can I make an agitated skeleton?

>>146875208
First off the characters name is Nate.
Second he can't be the dogs kid because Cate wasn't even alive yet.

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>>146867302
Soon

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>>146875746
soon

>>146873969
Righteous Authority

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>legedary super mutant warlord
>killed in one sneaky hit by two-shot gauss rifle

Wonder how a settlement would do in a fight if you gave one of these to everyone in it.

>>146865341

What build sets are you using here, aside from the metal and wood generic ones? I'm tired of using the same build pallets all the time. Is it from a mod, or DLC?
Also where do I pirate the DLC

>>146868671
I agree, the fact that Sturges, a junkyard mechanic, can help you build teleportation technology (embarrassingly done as a bunch of workshop items you can drop anywhere) is just... how BAD the writing is

>>146872832
>expecting to be able to build gauss rifles with junkyard materials

you're clever, huh

>>146876758
None, It's only DLC

>>146877000
Todd pls

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God they better release some amazing fucking Raider power armour customisation in Nuka World.

What if one of the new upgrades was a suit covered in the scale plates and bones of a Deathclaw which is what provided the main protection?

>>146877359
>Hyping yourself up over garbage that's 2 months away
L
M
A Y Y
O

>>146858493
Elvis is looking pretty good for his age.

>>146877000
>Needs 20 different materials for a gun
>can't tell the builder to just grab what it needs from the workshop to make 5 guns


Shit system. Who actually bothers with this?

>Entering Silver Peak Mine for the first time.
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>146866924
some people take memes to a whole new level.

Some even spout them in public.

>>146877807
its because he never saw RPG codex

>DAGGERFALL AND ULTIMA SUCKS MOTTO

https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/747867453888299008
I was told that Bethesda hated pandering to Reddit

Is this more lies from bethesdrones

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>enemy spawn point is right inside Hangman's Alley

>>146858954
does anyone actually care about equipment degradation? like, how autismal do you have to be?

>>146877748
I'm not disagreeing it sucks, I'm just saying that, perhaps, this... mass production system... might, logically, be more useful for mass-producing things like pipe weapons, leather armor... you know, simple stuff. If you could make three hundred gauss rifles in a few minutes in-game that's economy/game broken.

>>146878073
being 1 contest doesn't mean that they like to deal with the shitstain that it is reddit...

now go back to your shithole Walpknut

Why do people say Fallout 4 isn't an rpg because you have a set backstory? Witcher 3 also has a set backstory, but you would have to be a literal retard to argue that it isn't an rpg

>>146878297
No one says this

Stop this meme

>>146878297
It's more that it's a shit RPG with a garbage story and dialogue

So bad even Godd Howard came down to say they fucked up

>>146878368
it was said no fewer than 20 times in the previous thread

I know because I just finished looking through that thread

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>>146878297
Because le epic trole

>>146878543
Nope

Stop memeing

>>146878297
There's a difference between "you are the chosen one" which is what Witcher 3's backstory amounts to, and "here are all the details of your life from where you lived to who your family is."

>>146878793
it was
you saying "nope" doesn't mean anything

I'm literally 5 minutes removed from looking at that thread

>>146878150
put kill-box on spawn point

mine raiders

>>146878850
>"you are the chosen one" which is what Witcher 3's backstory amounts to
lol wat
>here are all the details of your life from where you lived to who your family is."
this is literally what happens in the witcher
so this is definitely a troll, good job

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>find a suit of T-45
>take it to the castle
>spruce it up and give it minutemen paint
>you can't make settlers enter power armor
Oh

>>146879087
if you leave it laying around they will jump into it during attacks

step 1: assign settler to room with power armor
step 2: wait

>>146879017
I build so many heavy laser turrets in the area so that every single being there dies before it can do anything.

>>146879024
>this is literally what happens in the witcher

It's barely ever brought up, for the most part it's just YOU ARE THE GREYWARDEN.

Much better than WHERE MUH BABY AT.

>>146879267
dude
you've never played either game

Everyone here is fucking stupid
like, holy shit

Where are the waifus to clean this garbage up

>>146879298
But I have.

Are you seriously going to say that Witcher is more imposing with its forced backstory bullshit than Fallout 4? The game in which the entire story is based around your family.

>>146878870
Nice meme

>>146879406
The entire witcher is based around your girlfriends/daughter/job/kings you served

you haven't played the witcher at least; that much is clear

>>146879298
Not him but the shit about the baby really is quite prevalent during the main quest. Very few other quests mention it though. It's still fucking annoying. Bethesda can't write too well. Fallout 3 is "DADDY?!? WHERE HAVE YOU GONE?!?" and dad is like "To bring water to a wasteland that already has it!"
This game is "SON?!? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN TAKEN?!?"
And Son is just like "to the institute, so I can make poor decisions and be an idiot!

>inb4 calling me an obsidiot
I have problems with their games as well.

>>146879590
But my point is, having a backstory that is a part of the main quest is literally the Witcher. And yet the backstory there is significantly more stringently determined.

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>>146879406
W3's main story is literally "MUH DAUGHTERFU".

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>defend Murkwater Construction Site!
>don't really care about it but 12 people are there for some reason
>build a single missle turret on some high up platform floating in the air as the only defence
>it's actually enough to beat most enemies because they waste their time with the settlers

Witcher 3 does have an imposing backstory, but it's a good one
Fallout backstories have traditionally not been nearly as forced as 4's, even 3 wasn't, and it's a huge mistake to change that. Bethesda can't write. The only good work they do is exactly the "tell not show" that that New Vegas hater whines about. Doesn't help that the engine is still shit for heavily choreographed scenes. It's the same way in TES. Bethesda is much better off not trying to pretend that that hack Emil's work is stomachable, and just making sandboxes with most writing focused on the setting.

>>146879796
And it's still less hamfisted than "WHERE IS MY SON. I WILL FIND YOU AND I WILL KILL YOU, GO TO HELL AND KILL YOU AGAIN"

>>146879974
hamfisted or not, it is imposing as fuck

hell, _someone_ could literally write books giving the details of geralt of rivia's life that you can't change

you could barely write a paragraph about the SS's backstory

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Neat

As far as worthless legendaries go, this one is fairly decent for Blitz if you don't want to cheese with a combat knife

>>146879694
You saying he's never played either game was my issue, as he wasn't wrong about bethy forcing their lame plot. Witcher is whatever. It's not meant to be a fully customizable game, right? Can you even choose your face

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>>146880087
>hell, _someone_ could literally write books giving the details of geralt of rivia's life that you can't change
Nice joke

>>146880132
He thought the extent of the Witcher's backstory was "you are the chosen one" as if there aren't books written about the Witcher's backstory

He hasn't played that game, clearly

>there are invisible walls and a roof on the tower at Abernathy's
Fucking why?

I'm hoping someone can help me find a mod I had from the Nexus that was removed. Essentially it was a smoke effect/wisp retexture intended to resemble the smoke from Metro.

I wanted to roll an Orc paladin/wizard, but Fallout 4 is so shit it doesn't even have a class system.

>>146879939
But there is always some thing you have to do, and that thing is heavily involved in the main story. This is as true of morrowind as it is of fallout 4

you would be unable to even have a main quest otherwise, whether it's dragonborning, looking for pops, or looking for you kid.