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INGAME MEETUP (Before Maintenance):
Klaipeda (Group chat will be remade)
>Entrance of Kateen Forest Ch1, North of Tenet Garden
Orsha
>Woods of the Linked Bridge Ch4, 11PM EST, Map after Orsha

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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> /tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>146821470
>/tosg/ discord
No such thing
>space after maymay arrow
Why are you back
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SHIMATA

I forgot to edit >Servers to include Orsha!

Gome ne, Colyo-kun
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I LOVE TALT
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>>146821507
discord is part of /tosg/ now, even if you don't like it
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Klaipeda twerk team WHEN
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The first exp curve reset was in the 60s, wasn't it?
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> the OP

comfytimes ahead lads
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What Hair Accessory looks pretty in the Fletcher costume?
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>>146821603
>now
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Whens the chat going to be remade?
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>>146821707
It doesn't matter. Everyone is looking at your feet anyways.
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>>146821707
>>146821653
The actual Fletcher costume is terrible. Don't wear it.
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>>146821707
eagle feather
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>>146821753
It's been remade. PM Karga/Koenig to be added.
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>>146821906
At least it shows the legs
Ranger looks like a muslim all covered up
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Threadly reminder that Comfy is a pinoy guild.
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>>146821551

future meetups will be channel 1 now as well, thanks to the tower
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>>146821656
grats, fuccboi
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Always know your swords
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>>146821364
those 3 riders seems to have fun
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>>146822491
t. york
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Since I've already gotten my hats I'm going to share something just for you tosg.
When scan is used by a scout, it checks the amount of chars around for the hats given but fun fact is that this count includes all familiars, icewalls and mobs as well as shit like anvils.

By abusing this with a few people you can easily crash the market or make a few million.

I've made 26 million so far from this (which sadly isn't even enough for a few levels in attributes) in varena, prices may be different in other servers through.

I wish you luck.

From anon.
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dead meet up
dead game
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>>146822872
>>146822872
DELETE THIS
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who did this?
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>>146822973
I don't care, I've already sold all my shit and theres no scouts left in my guild so let chaos begin.
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>>146822872
>>146823065
posting this to reddit
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Battle of the century!
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>>146823129
HILDA NO NOT THAT ONE
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>>146821656
Cutes on right, lewds on left
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>>146823010
It was me all along
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>>146823093
Already done
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S-some unholy experiments are taking place!
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Dead game
Dead meetup
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>>146823351
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>>146823983
>50+ people at klaipeda meetup
>claims dead meetup

u wot m8
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We will dig until we reach korea for patches!
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>>146823983
game froze, rip
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>>146824146
You're going to reach China before you find any.
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>>146824146
mimi a cute
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>>146824373
Tell Mei I miss her but I just can't give up ToS.
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When IMC will merge Klaipeda Orsha and Fedimian?
Only way to keep them aliveand both Orsha and Fedimian are on life support
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BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS!
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>>146824568
LARGE GIGANTIC MOMMY KABBA TATS
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Where do I farm for Shredded Piece of Cloth? Crystal Mines 2F's Shredded are too scattered in the map to farm effectively.
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>>146824568
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>>146824568
These three are up to something.
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What's the point of this meetups?
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>>146824638
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/1543
Learn to use this. I won't help you next time, Anon.
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>>146824638
Try Sutatis Trade Route
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>>146824609
SUBSTANTIAL SWOLLEN SEMITIC SACKS
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>>146823983
Clover is busy dealing with a random wardec from ReRoll.
Our top priority is to ensure our tower's survival.
Thanks again to Alysse for coming to our aid.
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>>146824814
To get databased with tosg!
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>>146824865
>>146824872
Thank you both. Tosbase is so unreliable.
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>>146824814
Well atleast for me, I get to see people enjoying themselves.
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>>146821364
Why Coffee is still in the OP?
Capy himself stated he is going to replace inactives with people from outside /tosg/
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>>146824814
To block and report everyone you see there.
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Any Jap players on international TOS?

Should I just continue waiting for JP release?

Would it be wise to play this version to get familiar until Japanese release?
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>>146824609
>>146824616
>>146824894
They aren't that big
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>>146825247
Bullshit. You can see the joy in her eyes from how big those are.
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Welp, my game crashed, there seems to be a lot of 4chan guilds, and they were pretty nice one to another. Maybe one day I'll join one, though my char is lvl 130, and guilds usually have very strict requisites to join.
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Cute!
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>>146825239
When we were playing on kTOS, before iTOS started, there was a japanese guild on Vakarine called Vakabaka or something.

So yes, nips play there.
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>>146825302
ded game
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>>146825453
Only requite is if the guild in question has an open slot
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>>146825453
THERES NO REQUIREMENT FOR MOST GUILDS NOW
JUST BE ACTIVE
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>>146825497
So, I should play on Korean servers then?

Or have they migrated?
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>>146825427
LOL
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>>146825453
We have slot, drop your name.
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>>146825509
How it's going on your dead server?
Has Capy already brought some SJWs, tumbrl or reddit to replace you?
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>>146825614
Guild master doesn't plays anymore, but the guild is still semi-active
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>>146825630
"Boundary"
is it a PvP only guild?
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>>146825614
I play on Orsha
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>>146825614
Play on iTOS with us. All koreans server are very very dead.
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>>146825787
>how it feels to put you name on 4chan board
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>>146825427
Can't argue with that
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>>146825959
Doesn't fucking matter. Namedrops are a diceroll. I've never put my name on here but still get mentioned from time to time. All it takes is some cuteposter to sperg about his "crush" on you or for you to be in the background of some eRP chatlog and you're out there.
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>>146825649
>guild master tired of 4chan bullshits and shitters
>finally chose to get some decent people in his guild
Can you blame him? I can't
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>>146826363
Atom here
You mean competent people, /tosg/ are shitters.
Atom out
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>tfw it took me nearly 300k silver to make this
Not sure if it was worth it or not.
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>>146826454
Order of priority
Attributes >>> stronger weapon >>> anvil >>> gems >>> awakening
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are farts affected by mobs' AOE defense ratio?

and do they have any associated particle/visual effect? like green smoke?
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>>146826615
does moonie have really stinky farts?
just curious you know haha
just for laughs haha
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>>146825841
>>146825943
So, there is a Japanese community on iTOS?

Is Orsha the correct server?

Thank you.
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>fujisaki sat by herself next to the pole the whole meetup
>stayed there alone after weebuto wandered off
>sometimes her bird would come sit on her shoulder, then fuck off again, leaving her alone.
This is depressing.
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>>146826454
75~120 shouldn't take longer than 2 or 3 days. Could have done the same with a zega spear.
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>>146826771

If you're in NA, play in Klai or Orsha
If you're in EU, play in Fedimian
If you're in SEA/Aus/NZ, play in Telsiai
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>>146826771

Klaipeda is the 'correct' server, but comfytimes on Orsha are well underway.
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>beerp in the secret group chat
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Sorry Moonie, I didn't mean to snap at you but your timing couldn't have been worse.
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>>146826832
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>>146826949
THREESOME DRAMA

D R A M A
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>>146826843
>75~120 shouldn't take longer than 2 or 3 days
I'm saving all of my cards until 180 and just grinding forever, so it'll probably take a bit longer than that
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>>146826832
literally who
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>miss meet-up due to login errors
Maybe next week
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>>146826949
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>>146827056
>your low level cards mattering at all
You should be doing the opposite, no cards matter until level 11 cards and thats only if you want tp have an advantage once r8 comes out over others
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>182 level 3 cards got me only 2 1/2 class levels
Guess I shouldn't be expecting the next circle into somewhere around 94-96, huh? I should probably make sure to hit the dungeon around that level when I get there too, if anyone exists trying to do it.
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It was nothing ;_;
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>>146826949
Okay?
Whatever it is, don't worry about it!
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What does he meme by this
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Are we finally in
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RIP in piece
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>>146827253
Rank 4 is around 77.
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>>146827074
Is it just me or is there less and less player each meetup...
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>>146827343
I CANT LOGOUT
HELP
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>>146827330
Go Back
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>>146826832
>you watched but did nothing
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is this game not frustrating and fun to play yet
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>>146827253
It'll happen around 80.
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>>146822675
ride or die
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>>146827253
>saving cards for anything outside 170-175 or 248-252 gaps
you are literally retarded, only save the level 7-8 cards and some level 11 cards for the 170-175 meme zone and the 248-252 no good grinding spot zones.
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>>146824814
To relax after a days work or a weeks neeting with people who are enjoying the game enough to not have quit already and shoot the shit with them
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I'm in baby
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>>146827181
Level 1-2 cards don't matter, but 3-5 cards are great.

I've tried doing it that way where I try to stay within 5 levels of the map by using cards and grind very little, but after rank 6, I always found myself significantly underleveled and needing to use the cards that I actually needed to save and getting to rank 7 is a huge bitch once I get to Nahash forest.

At least with grinding I won't have to deal with getting 2-3shot in Nahash forest again.
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>>146827330

Go back

to the beginning
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Drink more water.
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>>146827056
A couple hundred of low level cards is basically worth a single mission run at higher levels, like >>146827181
said, it's better to use most cards as soon as you get them and maybe save some to avoid the 160~186 gap. it's more time efficient.
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>>146827330
D4NGER!

W4TCH Y4SELF!
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Goodnight /tosg/
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did you find what you wanted today
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Thanks again, C.Lo. I plan on having a good time with the Kotatsu clan. See you all on the next episode of DRAGONBALLTREE!
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Was fun
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じゃ また ね。 がんばれこたつ!
See you again soon. Let's do our best, Kotatsu!
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>>146826262
Patches never
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Thank you for the new guild, Orsha!
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>>146826881
>he got himself a harem

Holy shit. Fucking boys.
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>that big guy
he's a pretty good guy
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Guys help

What happened to my characters?
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>>146827516
>getting 2-3 shot in nahash forest
nice, its this meme again, I hope the truth info speakers saved their webms for the issuing debate
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>>146827596
I got some kind of black and white hat on my character while in the first klaipeda zone. I got it when I was killing the rock-looking monsters. I guess that's what I wanted?
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>>146827181
but how do you obtain level 11 cards if quests stop at the 230 zone?

are you getting those cards from random high level (~270) mob kills?
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Waiting warmly for a picture of cloudnova's giant butt
I need it, for science.
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>>146826262
Sorry to disappoint, we tried. DPD is a meme. IMC is high on weeds. kToS never.
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>>146827609
>Thanks again, C.Lo.
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>>146827689
Are you retarded? No amount of defense is going to help you if you are 10 levels under a blue spion archer.
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>>146827516

>he gets 2-3 shot in Nahash Forest

You come here with this, on the day of my daughter's wedding, where I'm unable to produce webm to disprove you?
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>>146826949
Was cool setting with you, transforming other-person man. Hope you feel better.
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>>146826832
I'll give fujisaki more attention... next meetup
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>>146827712
>what is map exploration and kill counts
why grind at 2-3 million exp per hour when you can spend the same time grinding for 15+ million exp per hour
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is it pointless to play this game if you don't buy the token thing?
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Clarion still erping?
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>>146827828
It's because on both of the characters I have leveled up to rank 7, I've always been around 10 levels lower than them. And they like to use that skill that actually does kill me in one hit.
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>>146827363
>>146827423
Huh, I guess the exp curve is hiking up in there or something?

>>146827463
I wasn't strictly saving, I was just running around questing and grinding and not really thinking about my cards. Plus they make good quick heals and helped in Tenet and the Orsha version of it.

>>146827596
Yep, got my Gilt Helmet after what felt like hours of grinding.
Getting two more for the collection is going to be a joy.
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>>146827838
>setting
Sitting. Also please teach me how to be a master of disguise next time we cross paths.
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>>146827520
Will...lolipan...
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>>146826949
Can you stop avatar fagging you and that shitty gay cat?
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My campaign starts now.
>>146827430

>>146827430
Sign me the FUCK up, mane.
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Dear Anon,

Did you meet anyone new today? I sure did! I had a great time at this week's meetup.

Yours truly,
Anon
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Atom Here sorry if i can't ruin your party i was busy sucking xellie's cock

Atom Out
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Does all world boss spawn always on channel1 or they can spawn on other channels too?
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>>146826881
How big is the population of each? A lot of Japanese, or little?
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>>146826771
Most of us are on Klaipeda. I haven't seen many Japanese but there's tons of weebs who learned 3 or 4 words from watching anime.
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>tfw i thought more of you were going to buy the cock costume

I was lied to
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>>146827596
Is this even obtainable? This would actually be insane on an Scout3.
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>>146827971
I will have Hilda contact you about the fine details later, but you're in the book so it's just a matter of time now.
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>>146827596
THREE SOCKETS

S
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C
K
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T H R E E
S
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>>146827061
Reading ahead in that manga passed the anime was the most depressing thing ive read in the last couple months
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>>146827596
After a few missed wb and cards later, I at least got grynas pants
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>>146827516
I swear its the same guy starting the 2-3shot in Nahash forest bullshit again.
>>146827885
You get 30% less exp, less dungeon runs (aka less rng runs that give you useless garbage 99% of the time) as well as more market auction house (which is the main method to sell shit and buy shit) tax as well as limited to selling one item on the market at a time.

Tokens only take around a day or less of gameplay to get anyways so it doesn't really matter.
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>>146828004
Is this some NTR shit
I bet it's NTR
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>>146827596
I found another one of these things I didn't need!
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Is there any shinobi builds besides Swords3>Pel>Cor2 that don't use spears and can AA?

From what I understand Sword>Pelt>Hop2>Cor2>Shinobi is more focused on AA while still having decent burst while Sword3>Pel>Cor2>Shinobi is heavily based on burst. However, the first one requires me to use a spear. I really don't like the look of spears in this game. They look incredibly clunky.
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>>146828037
I see... that is unfortunate. I may just have to speak English on English server then.

Thank you!
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>>146828102
Kill yourself, retard. You completely missed the point of my post.
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I don't seem to see any difference in attack speed between keyboard and mouse mode when using an archer. The animation cancel looks to be of the same speed when dragging the mouse and not letting go of the 'z' key while moving.

I have 200ms ping
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>>146826949
poor moonie
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>>146827596
300 harpeia cubes and counting, if knotted armband does have the same drop % as petamion I'm hanging myself.
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>>146828056
Truly you have been cucked
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>>146828118
Do I have to rub jews for luck?
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>>146828115
It could be if you want it to be but that wasn't the intention.
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>>146828102
I see thanks, guess Ill give this game another shot
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>>146828170
Sword3Barb2DoppelShinobi
Assuming we someday get the korean barbarian buffs and they fix deeds of valor's attack speed.
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>>146827596
>Mithril Ores
>Gigantic Shinbones
>Agvara Cannon Recipe
>A monster gem
>Sissel recipe
Got plenty of things
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>>146828170
How do you feel about barbarians/ fencers/doppel
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>Coursing
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>>146825427
Uhmmm
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>>146828170
Both of those builds are absolutely horrible.
I hope you aren't following the absolute garbage builds from tosbase that are either out of date or just theorycrafts.

The korean and international shinobi metas are:
sword 3 hop 2 with anything else you want
sword 3 fencer 1 with anything else you want
sword 3 highlander with anything else you want (much weaker in itos due to whilst still having bleed double meme buff and crossguard pierce buff, theres no skyliner)

I don't know where you're getting corsair 2 from since its absolute garbage outside farming for colifly stamens/slick sap/etc. needed for advancement quest, pvping with hook or pirate flag since dwa doesn't work with clones as proven countless times.
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>>146828261
>you'll never be part of a weird gay love triangle of online furry cosplayers
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>>146828315
It works. Just try it
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>>146827949
Your first step is to master this technique.
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>>146828102
>Tokens only take around a day or less of gameplay to get anyways so it doesn't really matter.
You should probably note that this is at high levels.
I've been saving for mine and have finally broken 200k at 68, it's gonna be so nice when I can finally get this thing.

>>146828170
I wish high3 could do it, but I'm betting it doesn't. I'm mildly tempted to say fuck it and take it anyways for the outfit if I ever reach that point.
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>>146828631
>misleading or confusing players
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>>146828557
>>146828403
Ah I see and yeah I was. I knew it was outdated but I'm still relatively new to the game.

However, I really want to take Peltasta and also, I don't really like the idea of completely relying on burst which is why the (outdated) Hop2>cor2 interested me as I was told that it had good AA due to the pierce debuff.
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I like pyromancer outfit and have leveled to 20, but I put stat on INT. What build can I progress on after this?
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>>146828473
And yes, this happens every time you try to use another Hunter skill while Coursing is in use and the target isn't right next to your pet

And Coursing's duration can be 30+ seconds at max level

And this bug is not lag, it affects everybody

fucking hunters man
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>>146828473
>Doesn't know how to control the Velhider

Never give it orders while it's stuck on Coursing mode, unless the target is within it's range(so it won't have to move, if it tries, it's pathfinding will break like that).

Never stack orders in it. If you order it and it doesn't do it, use a RushDog to force it to jet to the target. It'll remember what you had previously ordered and grapple the target.

If it bugs and refuses to move, use Hounding/Praise to fix it.

And really, just don't use Hunter skills in missions. You can't contribute to anything in there as a Hunter.
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>>146828760
Luck is something you must believe to achieve.

What i sell is confidence that you will get that thing you want soon
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>>146828737
>Level 68 taking more than a single day to get
what meme is this?
The norm is level 90 within a day.
The only people who can't get to 90 within a day are the retards who save cards instead of staying within 4 levels of the map (since from 5 and onwards you receieve increasing exp penalty).
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monks should beat each other up!
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>>146821649
No.
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>>146828631
But I have you filthy rabbit.
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>>146828025
Each channel can spawn one
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>>146828735
>something to work on during maintenance
I'll get on it right away. You won't regret this.
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>>146828785
You can take pelt with any of the meta shinobi builds, outside sword 3 and the requisites like hop2/fencer/highlander theres tons of wriggle room for choosing stuff like pelt.

Not like it matters anyways since once you reach maven, no-one cares if you have pelt anyways due to the lack of players (specifically swordsman for the 50% exp bonus) for parties
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>>146828797
Any...? Almost all wiz builds benefit from high INT.
Linker pairs well with pyro.
What classes interest you anon?
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>>146828315
Or you could buy my luck-infused jewce!
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>>146828631
>17k profit
what? you waste your time on this? i can't believe you call yourself jewish, goyim.
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>>146828923
But i have always found boss like Cerberus or Ellaganos in channel 1 only
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>>146829034
Is thaumaturge any good? I plan on getting linker as well after pyro.
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Who's your favourite person in the guild and what do you like most about your guild?

If you are guildless, who is your favourite friend?

If you're friendless, what sort of friend would you consider to be a bestie?

No need to namedrop or mention your guild, just let the person remain anonymous and/or refer to the person as their class.
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>>146829052
I just leave that open for days or so and sell it occasionally.

Pretty sure ive made about 8mil since server creation in just donations thus far.

I also have an alchemist 2 now too.
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>>146828869
Forgive me for being "new" to the game and not a minmaxer who has the best route to accomplish everything in the most efficient way possible mapped out.
Maybe if I level something else down the line I won't work to 100% maps as I go through them or take the time to enjoy the areas or grind for any cosmetic I come across that interests me.
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>>146829178
N A M E D R O P T I M E
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>>146829152
Thaums are really only good for world bosses and thats only if you invest heavily into the class.
Unless we get the transpose "bugfix" soon than the class is worthless outside dedicated world boss parties (thaum 3) and the full jew alchemist build (wiz>pyro>linker>thaum>sorc>alch2)
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I don't think I've ever lurked in this general without wanting at least half of the people in here to either die or kill themselves.

How does it feel being human trash?
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>>146829178
Please reupload cute list
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>>146829178
>Who's your favourite person in the guild and what do you like most about your guild?
Lolipan and having sex with Lolipan.

>If you are guildless, who is your favourite friend?
Lolipan

>If you're friendless, what sort of friend would you consider to be a bestie?
Lolipan, friend with benefits.

>No need to namedrop or mention your guild, just let the person remain anonymous and/or refer to the person as their class.
Lolipan.
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>>146828850
Yeah, I did it since it's just amusing to watch. Really, all they need to do is add a check to see if its target is dead. But they won't. Rush dog does decent damage on cd, but that's probably because it's about 50 levels above the current mission level.
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>>146829294
I want to kill myself too!
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>>146829178
There's one person in my guild that has been there since the start, keeps himself to himself mostly, but I'm always glad he's there.
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>>146829072
Ok you got me there since I couldn't never find them on ch2(not like I can get them on c1 either)
I know harp necro etc can spawn on the other ch
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>>146829178
I get along well with our reroll-master. They're always active, chatty in guild channel and pretty much always up for dungeons and stuff. The guild leader's pretty neat too, thanks to some stuff he did but absolutely did not have to do to make sure me and the guild worked out.

I like our guys because despite not being a part of them for as long as some, I feel like I know the majority of them pretty well at this point. Lot of fresh blood lately, but they seem cool.
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>>146829178
Cattly. We have lots of "fun!"
I'm on Cattly's guild!
Definitely Cattly
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>>146829276

thauma 2 gvg god
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>>146829294
Sounds like someone needs to have his dick sucked!
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>>146829178
I like Colyo because he let me into a guild instead of being a wandering vagabond.

I also like Archenyte because she stayed with me leveling this dumb alt I have even though she's 20 levels higher than I am.
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>>146829178
>tfw no friends
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>>146829276
>>146829152
This is incorrect information. Thaum Reversi is absolutely necessary for any large-scale team battle. And the Thaum buffs are no joke, either.

It's extremely underrated.
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>>146829178
That's hard to say.

I like everyone in my guild.

I guess Karga because she actually runs the guild and keeps it clean and comfy.

I say 'keeps it clean' but Karga is probably the lewdest person on the server, and she knows it.
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>>146829505
>orsha guild has a total of 8 people
>meanwhile klaipedia has 8 GUILDS that are mostly full
top laughs
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>>146829276
I was thinking more of this build?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127a7ag.13213551.1531.3a4a.1331415161.23
Though I heard Featherfoot is underwhelming.
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>>146829625
>she
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Just got my monk to C3 so I'm gonna start playing an alt. I've decided on a shinobi.

How is Sword>Pel>S2>S3>Cor2>Shinobi?
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>>146829639
Don't be mean.
Orsha seems comfy.
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>>146829426
Thanks for your help on that quest today. Sorry you had to switch characters so much.
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>>146829639
Yes, and?

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>146829653
well you've got linker with your featherfoot so you'll be fine

I mean you won't outdamage an elememe or anything but it'll work decently well and you'll be wanted in parties due to buffs and links
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What happened to Clover's Hamtaro?
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>>146829679
Don't be silly, of course Karga is a little girl.

Just a really lewd little girl.
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>>146828631
I hope you don't mind but I took your old spot.
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>>146829687
Absolutely worthless outside pvp and as a 50% exp taunt/flag bot lategame since you don't have any of the modifiers taking stuff like hoplite will give you.

If you don't care about doing zero dps (which you shouldn't since you played a monk before) than it'll be fine.
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>>146829847
It's doing fine, we stuffed it full 10 minutes before maintenance, it can go for 6-8 hours before starving.
As long as ReRoll doesn't ninja the tower in the next day or so, we'll have our first mature guild pet.
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>>146829836
Thanks. Stat-eise though, I suppose I only need to invest a decent amount of INT to transpose, then put into some other stat to benefit the party. I just don't know which stat is best to put it into.
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>>146830025
Oh, good luck! We apologize for the inconvenience caused by extended maintenance time.
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>>146830025
>a guild needs to be active at all hours to maintain these
IMC truly is stuck in the past
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>>146830128
transpose is garbage until they give it the "bugfix" due to the fact that if you recast it, your health still drops even if its still active

Its really only good if you have a healer that can dedicate their life and soul to you and only you, that and faster campfires
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>>146829653
Drop Pyro and get Wizard2. Without Surespell, all your Featherfoot channeling spells will get interrupt every single time. Guaranteed.

I'd even consider dropping a level of Linker to get Wiz3 for +50% more damage, too.
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Any of you famdragons planning on buying any of the new TP items? If so, what?

I might get the male spade costume and female diamond costume and their hats.
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>>146829982
How has the money been coming in since the new players were unleashed on us again?
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>>146830347
Gotta spend TP on new hair. I like fluffy shit.
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>>146830347
Probably one of the hats. My leveling partner wants the new hair even though it looks like the one she already has to me.
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Sword1
Pelt 3
Corsair 3

arr i'm a pirate tank.
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>>146830347
Maybe a couple of the hats and probably the sword and definitely the archer one. female costumes obviously.
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>>146830000
Is there a more viable all-around shinobi build that doesn't necessitate hop? I don't want to use a spear if i can help it.
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>>146830347

HEARTS FOR MONK

THE KING OF HEARTS

LOOK! THE EAST IS BURNING RED
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>>146830242
Well, that's terrible. But at least it would get fixed.

>>146830254
But I really like the pyromancer outfit. I probably need to take a good look at the featherfoot skills, because I thought the bloodsucking would work hand-in-hand with transpose.
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>>146830242
you know, you don't need to get to max hp every time for it to still come in handy; its all about how you use it. that being said, yes, it isn't the best.
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>>146830545
fencer or highlander are your only other options

corsair means you either really want the flag (faster farming shiz/buff for party/etc.), really want hexen restrain stunlock for pvp/pve, hook for pvp or dwa really.
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>>146830505
No, your the captain
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>>146830505
>pelt
>tank
That's a nice way to say masochistic slut.
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>>146830505
Rank 8 go templar and form a pirate crew.
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https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/213001

Are you telling me that this attribute starts at 20k silver, and increases the amount of bloodsucking by just 1? Not even 1%, but just one life?

I need 76.5m silver invested to recover 100 HP more? This can't be right.
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>>146829426
Hat in FP?
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>>146830858
Same as necro skeletons

IMC is 100% retarded
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>>146830858
>he doesn't know
go watch a video of bloodsucking than come back
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>>146830684
So what would your suggested Shinobi build be?
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>>146830949
Namedrops are unnecessary.

But considering it's all nice things, yes. H@.
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>>146831004
I just wanted to be cool like him so I named dropped to feel better about myself
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>>146830985
Sword3pelt1hop2shinobi
or
Sword3hop2doppelshinobi
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from old pastebin
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31141bbb.1f495171.1545.215a
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31144bbb.1a4951.1a4a.215a
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31148bbb.1a49.1545.14213545.215a
which one is best suited for max dps on world bosses i have no idea how archer works
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>>146831309
ar2r1s1-fletcher3
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>>146831309
r3 f3 full str if you have a dedicated party and will never ever ever play solo.
a2 r1 sc1 f3, a2 r2 f3 or a3 r1 f3 with 1:1 or softcapped dex depending on your funding is best for solo or no support gameplay and bossing.
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>>146830368
Not very good
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As far as alch's item awakening goes, can you awaken any item that's enhanceable and do they share the same properties? Ex: Can you make an armor set that all has +Property attack for some extra damage, or can you only get that on weapons? Can you awaken bracelets/amulets?
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>>146831309
the one with scout in it since every world boss sans dulla is about how fast you can get there

its the main reason windrunner boots or whatever they're called is so expensive

its also why scout is necessary due to movement speed boost
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>>146831610
y3 m2 c1 a1

speak english, fucker.
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>>146830964
There are no videos of Featherfoot skills, that include the attribute.
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>>146831617
Give it another week or so. The new player(s) will show up eventually.

Thats basically why i left that spot. Get a lot of beatleback recipes and other random junk but thats bout it. Not in high quantities either
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>>146827418
HELLO?
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>>146829178
i don't have a single favorite person in my guild. i like a lot of them and the nice environment it has. the people i'm closest to are my like-minded brethren who are outside my guild however. people who are similar just fit together nicely and i've also spent the most time playing and talking with them too.

special shoutout to a certain level 280 dragoon who picked the wrong server so we can't play together
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>>146831679
r3 = ranger 3
f3 = fletcher 3
a2 = archer 2
r1 = ranger 1
sc1 = scout 1
r2 = ranger 2
a3 = archer 3

Not rocket science.
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>>146831806
>expecting someone who doesn't play archer to know this shit

are you retarded? do you think people can read your mind? do you even have a mind to be read? you're kind of fucking stupid, my man.
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>>146831652
So far, ive only thrown a peta, an arde, a karacha bow and dagger, a bow and a rod threw the awakening and from it i got 1 hp buff (necklace) and 4 elemental properties and 1 magic attack up on the rest

Ill try it on my cafrisun tomorrow morning and see what i get.
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>>146831872
Then play the game, entitled retard.
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A Friend requested a PRIEST MONK.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222999.15223543.1f213342516a98a5.112f31465a6a7181

This is inflexible so let him die trying this. Anyway, let's consider the best utility late game/gvg for this aka: as good as any support priest.

Please, rate and comment about the skill choices:
C1: 5 sz, 5 heal, only 2 cure because of 0 int, matk may come from a mace but still not the point of the build, 2 is enough for support.
DPZ lv 3 enables the attribute and combos with swords and hand knife IIRC.

Priest:
Aspersion 15: We had this discussion before, while the possibility to get even better aspersion at pardoner's exist, the point here is to fight in any place any situation, so, after you ress people, they need a good aspersion.
Monstrance 1: going high dex, enough for the monk.
Blessing 3 is enough for the attribute, points moved to Aspersion.
Sacrament 1: enough for extra line.
Stone Skin 5. Very good block, maybe even worth some SPR into the build for it.

Ress/Revive/Mass Heal:
This is hard to spread since both are awesome skills, mass heal will try to compensate the lack of cleric c2, not enough, I know, but still good nonetheless.

MONK.

Double punch 15
Kamehameha 10
Rest: what the fuck should I do


One inch punch seems to scale the best 10 into it?
Golden meme bell sounds as a okay panic button to have, maybe at least 1 point or max it?
Hand Knife for memezone, 1 into Palm Strike for the bleeding and what more?
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>>146831872
>help someone only to get insulted at
wew lad
>not being able to figure out something this basic since each letter represents the first of the class
wew lad

Its times like these I understand why people shouldn't ever spoon feed the retards
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>>146831872
Play the game.
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>>146831187
So any shinobi build must have hop2 because of the pierce debuff and from this, pretty much every viable shinobi build has to use a spear?
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>>146831681
that's because the class sucks
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>>146831961
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222999.15213544.213f415a6895a5.112f36415a6a7181

This is the best i can do to salvage this train wreck.

If you want asperation, buy it from a pard. Its situational and not worth puting 15 points into
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>>146832025
well the korean builds can use highlander because of cross guard which gives the same debuff but you cant do that in itos because skyliner nerf
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>>146832025
Well highlander has pierce debuff for kunai with cross meme, bonus crit attack and bleed for double slash but with the skyliner nerfs, its only really meta in korea

Meanwhile fencers have flexibility in class choice before shinobi as well as 15% bonus pierce damage, def ignoring for pierce attacks, survivability through evasion boost (since 5x damage taken from clones meme) as well as 50% slash boost from lunge for double slash.

In reality through highlander sucks in itos due to skyliner nerfs whilst fencer sucks due to shekel cost (extremely high sp pot/hp pot costs as well as extremely high repair costs due to shinobi with clones making your shit wear down super fast which is worse with rapiers low durability) as well as lowered survivability (no shield meme and only allowed to use daggers unless you want to miss out 15% damage)
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>>146831652
Awakening only works on the six slots around you, no bracelets or amulets. Weapons will get offensive stats (patk, matk, mamp, c.atk, c.rate, accuracy, property atk, etc.) while armor and shields get defensive stats (hp, sp, recovery, property resist, block, etc.).
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>>146832452
t. misinfo

I awakeninged a petamion. Stop spreading bullshit and lies.

Also, armor can have solid stats on their awakenings too.
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>>146831309 here

>>146831662
oh now i understand why those items are so expensive
>>146831582
>>146831610
>r3 f3 full str
how much do i gimp my solo pve if i go full str?will i have problems soloing 200+ mobs?
>>146831872
nice bait bro have a (You)
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>>146832327
>>146832417
So in the current version of iTOS, it's unlikely I can make a viable shinobi build that doesn't use spear?

How long do the kTOS buffs take to come to iTOS? A year or so?
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111b999.1f213f5a64.152535.2f5a6a7a

what should i do differently
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>>146832613
Probably year or longer since we've gotten no balance shit at all whilst ktos has gotten heaps.

The only good memenobi build in itos is hoplite variants unless you have a billion shekels to fund a fencer shinobi
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>>146832538
Full Str is fine if you either 1 git gud or 2 stack defence+aspersion Jew buff. Full Str also requires a bit of work to get crit gems. A happy middle road would be 3:1 Str Dex but you don't have to follow a strict ratio path do make sure to go some con as well though
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>>146832538
>how much do i gimp my solo pve if i go full str?will i have problems soloing 200+ mobs?

Kinda bad, fletcher solo gameplay revolves around using magic arrow at your feet and relying on evasion stat to dodge things until magic arrow deletes the enemies from existence. Needless to say, it will be a lot more challenging to do so with a full str build.
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>>146832635
Honest answer

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111b.1f213f5a64.152535

If you must go monk:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117b999.1a213a415563.11243545.15213544.2f31415a6a7781
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4113b999.1a213a415563.153545.15213544.2f31415a6a7781
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>>146832714
I'm pretty committed to making a sword-using shinobi since spears are too clunky. I have about 5mil saved up.

If i were to go fencer Shinobi, could I go Sword>Pel>Sword2>Sword3>Cor>Fencer>Shinobi? Would that be, in theory, any good?
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check out this madman

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/guide-to-dual-stance-fencer-pve/305241

never believe /tosg/
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Cleric2 is the Pelt1 of Clerics
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>>146829178
I met a bunch of cute asian girls that needed a healer, so I've been hanging out with them every day. I bully them a lot.
>>
Cleric 3 Paladin 3 Kabbalist 1

First I fill your health
Then I fill your mana
Then I fill your asshole.
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>>146833228
Why not doppel instead of fence? That'll give you some sort of aoe/deeds then
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>>146833282
That doesn't work, does it?
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>>146833404
With what, your breast milk?
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GIB MEIDO COSTUME
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>>146833441

It works. Okay taunt bot with a decent dps and a megaburst when needed, more reliable than cross guard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30-0qIf-NOc
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do you think guardian saint will ever get buffed? i'm constipating taking it to 5.
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>>146833282
the literal only synergy between fencer and hoplite is fucking attaque coquille's pierce damage buff; and his tanking stance completely does away with the one major advantage fencer has as a class, and thats evasion.

my head hurts after reading that garbage.
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>>146833670
Is there some kind of horrible catch to it? I'm seeing that the buffs/debuffs go away when you swap so you can't really use the two together anyway.
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>>146833695
IN korea, its giving a bit of hp and sp regen to you when you cast it.
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>>146833425
I kind of want to stick to 1handed sword. Also, I feel like Attaque collique or whatever it's called is better than anything that doppel can provide.
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>>146833694
she isn't even that cute anon.
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>>146833282
>this is what happened when theorycrafter has his head up too far in his ass
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Are there any major difference between blocking and evasion?
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>>146833915
Pretty sure all dopp skills, first circle anyway, can be used with any weapon. But fair enough, go where your heart takes you anon. Ganbatte
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>>146829178
I vouch for the legitness of our resident MemeLock, who I've been playing with since we met back in iCBT last year. Joined my guild at their constant insistence and nagging, since group stuff in games isn't my usual cup of tea in the first place, but it's a pretty cool guild, so I can't complain.
I really fucking like them as a person, too, so playing the game together's still a blast despite the current drought in content and shittyness of this general. Not to mention, they wield the best usage of their class costume, at least from what I've seen.

Still have some old screenshots we took around. too, now that I remember. Feels like this is from a billion years ago, in all honesty.
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>>146834116
I forgot to add, since they're bound to read this; no homo, fuck off.
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>>146833714
>>146833813

There's more synergy, anon.

1: You can use stabbing with a rapier
2: Spear lunge's debuff stays even if you switch weapon
3: Your only loss when you swap is Finesta. Ok, it's a big deal but keep following.
4: Preparation from Fencer c2 gives you a buff that doubles the pierce damage from your next skill.
5: Rapier mastery: Agression gives you +15% pierce damage.

Megacombo: Spear lunge -> Preparation -> Coquille -> Stabbing (every single hit will be amplified by both debuffs and the preparation buff) -> Sept Etoiles.

This is the megacombo alone, you can proceed tanking with taunt + spear throw with shield on or just rapier as always

Check the video.
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>>146834116
>>146834207
Yeah. truNEET is a faggot and deserves to choke on a bagel.
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>>146834252
You mean this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4npvzUUC4M

I know some catas that can do the same thing. What makes this any more impressive?
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What is the best class to play when you have 300~+ ping everywhere?
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>>146834608
elememe or a support
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>>146834518
Not being Cata
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Tell me the truth tosg

I'm going Pelt>Hop3>Cata2, gonna go Cata3 for R8.
PvE-focused character. Viable?
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>>146834892
>meme answer
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>>146830858
I need you to understand something.

IMC has no fucking clue what they're doing.

I'm pretty sure that 100% of the balances and events and shit kToS gets are from Nexon programmers and designers.
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>>146835119
hop2cata3
why would you go cata2
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>>146835220
Because Nexon actually play the game. They wanted to know how it feels like to be customers so they could understand the logic behind what needed to be done.

IMC are bunches of bad theorycrafters at best.
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Can squire's repair be used on your own weapons? If so, wouldn't that be a possibility to work around the shitty durability of rapiers?
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>>146835358
Now that you say it. That could work.
Just wanna have that stabbing15
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>>146834116
Holy shit, that makes me happy. I don't even know what to say...
I feel the same way, you're a fucking bro.
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>nobody will ever mention you as one of the guildmates they like
>you'll never really be in the inner circle of your guild
>not one of the top levels either so they don't really need you, even if you do everything you can to help them
is this what fujisaki feels at meetups?

i dont like it

its cold and all too real
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>>146835905
Maybe because you're the kind of person who draws attention to shy people at meetups.
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>>146834116
>>146834207
>>146835753
EXTREMELY HOMO
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>>146835905
That's what you get for not giving in to ERP bullshit.
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>>146835905
what guild?

and dont bully fujisaki you dick i would have talked to her but i didnt even know she existed. ;_; sorry fujisaki
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>>146836093
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>>146835905
>You will never be in a guild
;_;
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>>146836236
Those are the eyes of a person who can only see the void.
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>>146835386
yes and yes there are squire fencers
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>>146836236
i want to make and then protect her smile.
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>>146835905
Try actually talking to your guild? Almost everyone I've met from /tosg/ have been really cool people. Mine have every reason to exclude me I'm old and work full time but I don't feel like an outsider anyway because they're actually cool.

>>146836236
I don't like this meme. This wasn't what I wanted. I just wanted someone to see that post and take those last 10 minutes to introduce themselves to her.
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>broom traps falls off
/tosg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG8eBwqUFUQ
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So I keep hearing this "don't repair from the bots" meme. Is there some truth in this?

Most of the people who said this are squire1 cunts that asked for expensive repairs
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>>146836410
thank you
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>>146836457
Don't get mad just because you got meme'd on
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>>146836510
>incomparably massive amounts of hits which take about 1 second to set up fall off
>ever
It's just Elememes who are afraid that there's a skill which can even remotely copy what they can do, as always.

NO I DIDN'T SAY THAT BROOM TRAP WAS BETTER THAN FROST CLOUD YOU RETARDS HEEL HEEL
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I haven't played Swordie before, is Double Pay Earn a party buff?
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>>146836964
no its single target
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>>146836961
>broom trap is better than frost cloud
nice meme
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>>146836964
No, but you can leech exp and drops off of your partymembers for the duration if you don't attack anything.
You can't even share it with Linker Spiritual Chain, what the fuck, Nintendo.
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>>146836510
But hey, Sapper2Wugu2Cannon for maximun AIDS must be shit :^)
Elememe is still better becase quickcast and warlock class
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>>146836961
As a linker broom trap combines with penalty link is so fucking orgasmic.
>swords bait mobs in
>link things
>sapper sets broom trap
>now you can sit and watch everything that's not flying dies quickly
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tyrone's official ranking of the new tp items
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>>146837090
Of course every AoE skill would sucks when compared to that. No one can beat warlock at clearing low-ish HP mobs from large area really fast to be fucking honest.
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>>146837465
Spades = 2/10
Hearts = 8/10
Diamonds = 10/10 perfection
Stamps = 7/10

Both hairs are a 4/10.
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>>146836635
granted I'm not sure if I can even recommend this, they usually drop a damage class for this in Fencer C2 cases like Barbc3, maybe in a Memenobi build you could go Sword C3 Peltasa Squire Fencer Shinobi but you would want to kill yourself until R6.
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>>146826832
>>146836093
>>146836236
>>146836431

Fujisaki's elite guard when?
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Can't chose between these memes
Please help
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314166ef.1a23354a5161.152545.2a4a5575.112135455261.15243145

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3115566f.1a23354a5161.152a31446575.2a4a5575.15243145

Very heavy in STR, maybe 40-50 CON and minmaxed DEX+gems/optimal gear for crit rate(~70 naked DEX)
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>>146837795
She's already a guild leader.
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>>146837090
That was a non wugu tho.. The poison spreads really nicely (wugong gu) and also does more dmg than broom trap. So wugu sap is actually viable later on
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>>146837795

>catch up on Netoge while maint
>castle siege episode
>tfw this stupid game doesn't have that
>tfw can't form alliances with anyone
>tfw can't be the Black Magician and go ware ware wa to other guilds
>tfw no siege robot to pilot
>tfw no hardcore pvp guilds to win against using cheesy tactics
>tfw can't defend tower in a way as cinematic as defending a castle

why live
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>>146838180
>robot
In ToS it would be some kind of weird magitech shit like dievdirbys piloting giant mechanical owl.
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>>146837767
I was thinking of dropping the peltasta, since I wouldn't be playing with a shield as a fencer anyway, right?
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ded game
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>>146837795
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>>146838778

7/10, for effort. Made me chuckle internally
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>>146838548
Geomancer baby
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>>146839354
>geomancer
>not tinkerer archer advancement
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>>146838180
It would be really cool if guild towers upgrade into something like castles very high levels, with upgrades like moats
>>
>Go to forum for first time in a while
>See whining about Cryomancers being OP
>It's been going on for a month
>It's practically unanimous

Seriously? The class with a gorillion hard counters is the forum's boogeyman?
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>be dominican
>mfw puerto ricans and mexicans try to talk to me
no you dirty fuckers, i don't want to join your rotten guild or party with you smelly fucks.
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>>146839487
>archer hidden class
>requires Lv15 Deploy Pavise, Lv15 Scatter Caltrops, Lv10 Teardown to unlock
>Builds mountable Siege Robot and automatic attacking Sentries
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>>146838180
>>146838548
>>146839354
>>146839487
>>146839914

Bitches, please. If anyone's getting a mech, it'll be circle 3 jews with a motherfucking golem.
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>>146840058
fuck off Jewlord, you already got a meme hidden class
>>
taoist when

is it gonna be a hidden class for bokors?
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>>146840058
>calculate numbers from your own tats to build a big fat golem
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>>146838548
>In ToS it would be some kind of weird magitech shit like dievdirbys piloting giant mechanical owl.

Choose your robot
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>>146840058
She's all "shekkkeellllllllllllll SNAATCHU!!"
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>>146840231
mineloader would be fun to ride
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>>146840231
Would probably work the same as a sorc class where you need the card and is limited only to mutant or select few specific cards
>>
why is the game still not up

THIS IS HOW MAD I AM
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>>146840794
Honestly a sorc can just pilot most cards anyway.

I wish ToS would at least preview the third level of existing 6th circle classes. I'm curious if they're going to make the necronomicon do anything with the other 3 slots.
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>>146840926
Wat? It's literally 15minutes until scheduled maintenance finishes
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Any SR players here?

Me and my buddies are copying the ET F20 party comp, and I'm to be the SR.

I know that for their build, they use the A2R3SR2 with the non-nerfed steady aim.

I was debating whether that same build would still be the best DPS output in the same composition here, even with it's 20% steady aim buff.

So would it either be

>A2 QS3 SR2
>Even with the 200% damage bonus from running shot not applying to retreating shot after the patch, I get permanent running shot auto attacks with Melstis while retreat shotting

or

>A2 R3 SR2
>Auto attacking while retreat shotting with no buffs but the 20% steady aim

>A1 R1 QS3 SR2
>Gain the 10% steady aim buff, but lose out on the 25% swift step attribute. Will be able to running shot auto attack while retreat shotting with 10% steady aim buff on both.

Thanks!
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>>146841117
I dont think running shot works while retreat shot is activate and though i havent done ET at all I believe the 7th floor is currently bugged for us. I also don't think we'll ever clear the 20th floor over here because of how nerfed everything is in comparison to KTOS and until we start getting some actual fucking buffs i can't see ITOS being able to do it.
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>>146841295
Just you wait til rank 8 comes out, then we'll be able to solo et
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>>146840187
It apparently IS going to be a rank 8 minimum hidden class, but that's all the info so far.
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>>146841117
>Me and my buddies are copying the ET F20 party comp

Do you have enough money to copy their +25 equipment too ?
If not then just forget it
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>>146841295
The thing they patched in kToS, is that running shots 200% damage buff doesn't also apply to retreating shot. Running shot can still be used at the same time as retreating shot after the fix.
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>>146841509
And attributes.

> M M O T A N K
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>>146841117
>kToS SR isn't the same as iToS SR
>that SR had a +20 Bandit and 100% attributes
>me and my buddies are copying that party set up
kek
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>>146838681
you can still swashbuckle with a dagger, and you'll want it to be able to get into 200+ grinds, its not like you're the DPS anyway, you're a boss exploding gimmick
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>>146841509
+25? I thought their shit was +17. I have a +15 Manamana, and my guild does Helga 2-3x a day so hopefully I'll be able roll a bandit soon.

But anyways, what do you think of the build? I'm planning on playing this character for a long time so I'll work towards those upgrades for a while. And I have enough money to 100% attribute retreat shot already so I'm not worried about that.
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>it's 5:10am
>the servers are STILL not up
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>>146841816
>SR
>I'm planning on playing this character for a long time
You're going to reroll before you hit SR2, or you're going to wish you rerolled afterwards.

It's a crippled husk of what it was on kToS.
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>>146841758
>>146841816
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>>146841863
Klai is up.

Looks like our pet made it through the maintenance just fine.
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>>146841878
I'm team level 26 with purely Swordsman, and only one of them have peltasta. I think I'll be able to stick with SR after getting 280 with a pelt-less shinobi and full CON cata templar
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>>146841816
Even if you can copy their build 100% it would be a weaker version of kTOS SR, especially after the recent skill fix. But hey it's your money
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>See patch notes.

Last time I read these.

Last time I post here.

Last time I login.

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>>146841961
That's easy to say before you play this class. I gave up at 271. You're going to quit it.
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>You should use all Lvl 3 cards by Lvl 90.

what does it mean?
should I use my cards to reach 90, or should I use it after I reach 90 and then spam it all?

currently level 81 and (is) dying
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it's up.... please somebody else log on
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>>146841941
about how much % did it lose in how many hours maint?
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>>146841295
>I believe the 7th floor is currently bugged for us.
It is
It's not impossible to do but the object isn't working as intented making it way more harder than it is in kToS or how it's supposed to be
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>>146842008
What's exactly so bad with it?
My shinobi is a cancer "PvP" sword2barb2cors2shinobi that did absolutely no damage and got carried thanks to nice maven grinders. I mean, this SR will at least be able to do DPS right?
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>>146842101
Just as you see it, around 40% over 4 hours.
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>>146842127
>I mean, this SR will at least be able to do DPS right?
>SR
>DPS
>right?
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>>146842161
What, so you gotta feed yo pigs every 10 hours or they die?
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>>146842021
use cards to stay within map lvl of your quest.
if you have enough and want, use them to reach 90 and start farming that dungeon.

saving cards is a old outdate meme. not needed now.
if you like dungeons and they give you nice exp, you can save card for a while, but yea.. not needed
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>>146837750
>>146837465
Which hair is the best one then?

I kinda wanted to get this new hair...
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>>146828253
Holy shit what happened after maintenance?

My ping is now 100ms from normal 200ms!
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>>146842363
server is not loaded
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>>146842313
That's right. At first we checked every 2h or so but it became apparent that it's a lot less needy than Dilgele crops.
We're still screwed if the tower falls since it'll impose a 1-day cooldown before I can put it back up again.
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>>146842127
You are getting meme'd on.
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>>146842161
>>146842313
that would be not that bad. just feed all 9h to be save
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Can you market the hats???
>>
>hats are probably tradable
wew lad
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>that feel when MMOTANK is doing way better job to make game bearable than IMC
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>>146842498
RMT AHOY
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>>146842403
Ahh
>>
DEAD
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>>146821364
>They're still playing this abortion of a game
>>
Does anyone have that pastebin with all of the C3 costumes in it?
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>>146843329
>hes still here after abortion
into the drain you go
>>
>>146843329
Friend's contemplating quitting. Sooner or later, it'll happen. I might not have the willpower to continue after that.
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>>146841791
oh, thanks I didn't know that swashbuckling worked that way. But one more question: Why would I want swashbuckling? Since I'm not the tank I shouldn't pull aggro, right? Or does it have an additional effect apart from the hp increase?
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>>146841993
that's a pretty sexy voice
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>>146843858
the only thing you are useful for is swash

get it
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>>146844114
>voice of a typical generic jewtubbing normalfag
>>
Greetings Saviors!

It has been three months since release! We have added new hairstyles and costumes to commemorate this wonderful occasion. These new items are now available at the TP shop.

Thank you for your continued support, enthusiasm, feedback and love for Tree of Savior.

Sincerely,
IMC Staff
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>>146843858
Swordies have no use besides their 50% exp bonus and swashbuckling from 200 onwards
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>>146844168
jelly
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>>146843858
swash and run. If they complains, tell them to go fuck themselves and leave the party
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>>146844203
You can stop begging no one is going to donate you here.
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>>146844139
>>146844172
>>146844248
So even if I'm not the tank I pull aggro from the mobs? Why?
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>>146843858
Because somehow level 200 immediately turns sword from easy mode and strong DPS into utter shit.
That being said, I still took a rank in pelt myself because I don't mind the idea of mobbing, though I'm not really much of a tank.
The outfit was almost as cute as thighlander anyways. Outfits are also why I'm tempted to make a big mistake and grab Shinobi instead of Doppel2
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>>146844310
anon i just thought he had a nice voice stop being so autistic
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>>146844338
Swashbuckling is the best way to grab mobs, all you really need to do is pull them around and let the DPS nuke em. A Linker or well ranked kino, among other classes, have ways to pull enemies together on top of it.
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>>146844353
Its due to the massive increase of health values.
Swordsman was easy mode against low health enemies but as enemies start having 100k+ health, swordsman become pretty garbage needing ages to kill anything.

Well that and swordsman r7 classes being mediocore
>>
Doppelgoon here.

How should I invest my stats?
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>>146844338
Because it is the best way to grab mob attention.

If I'm not mistaken, there's limit on how many mobs you can aggro without swash buckling. That's why every swordie should have it in party.
>>
Anyone that needs an invite to Kotatsu, the resident Orsha guild, just send a friend request to or whisper Colyo at any time and I'll get you the hookups.
>>
Wow, the costumes don't really look that good ingame.

The hats are shit, too.
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>>146844338
>"I'm not the tank"
Your random queue party members won't see it that way.

Even solo, you want to be able to pull large groups of mobs into your threat range without having to dash between each cluster and praying your piss-distance cone of attack will brush them.
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>>146844614
Full Con, since you're only good for Swashbuckling anyway. >>146844172
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Nekopara is a better game than ToS
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>>146844773
Nice meme. Kill y
1ourself, my man.
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>>146844772
>Your random queue party members won't see it that way
They don't have much say in it. What are they gonna do, kick you?
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>>146844353
hm, I might ditch the whole swordsman idea then. But melee dps felt the most fun. Granted I haven't really played any class very far.
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Way too much hair. Jesus Christ.
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>TANK taunts mages
>dies

Hah.
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>>146844515
>Its due to the massive increase of health values.
Unless you mean that going from level 199 to 200 mobs they suddenly get a massive spike in HP, I still can't see how it's a sudden thing.

>Well that and swordsman r7 classes being mediocore
You don't even get r7 until around 230-240 though, right?

>>146844758
It's like 5-6. You'll still 'aggro' other mobs, but they don't actively attack while there are mobs actively on you.
Swashbuckling not only directly grabs attention of mobs at range, but increases the mobbing limit.
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>>146844978
unf
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>>146844978
Perfect hair when you want to be a Yorkshire Terrier.
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>>146844970
You could ignore it and just play what you want though.
Alternatively, you could go Cleric and do one of the ridiculous not heal focused builds they have, since they use melee weapons too.
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>>146844978
this doesn't look too bad.
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>>146844978
At least it's not disgusting Cirno hair
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>>146845140
>dissing best hair
kysmm
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How dead are the servers now?
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>>146844824
Go to bed Cats.
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>>146845192
>dat shit taste
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>>146845271
Not dead at all on SEA since it's prime seamonkey time right now.
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>>146845271
Around 4000 or so
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This game managed to die faster than Ragnarok Online 2.

What an accomplishment.
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>>146845298
Jokes on you I always wanted to get bullied by qt wizard like that cleric
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>>146845271
Its 3610 last I checked, may have gone up a bit through
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Would it just be better to grind for silver and buy items for crafting or just grind the item itself?
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>>146845362
I'm not even surprised, you /tosg/ beta cuck.
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>>146845370
Depends on the item and your grinding profit speed
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stiff ribbon
0/10 wouldn't wear

only good costume is the wizard one
swordsman is bland
cleric is a literal poptart
archer has a stiff ribbon that ruins it all
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You know, I don't want this game to die, It's pretty shitty and IMC are braindead, but I'm having fun.
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>>146845682
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tfw no super saiyan hair yet
tfw i'll never go super saiyan
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>>146845434
I'm just looking for items to craft manamana so it would be the stingers and gold bars. I'm not an AFK sorc and bees are always taken too.
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>>146827729
I took a screenshot, but it's gonna cost ya
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>>146845946
Last I checked honeymeli stingers dropped down to 600 due to retarded rmt policies when IMC got it confused with honebean stingers for awhile.
You should check if they're still down.

Gold bars are easier to just buy with shekels though.
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>>146845456
It's not stiff.
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>>146846031
>honeymeli stingers dropped down to 600
I missed out on that. I didn't think the recipe would ever drop anyway. It's around 65-70k per stinger right now.

I'll buy the gold bars though. Thanks!
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>>146846054
my dxxk is stiff after seeing this
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>>146846437
u mena "dicc", rite?
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>>146846539
u kno what i mean bby
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hey fampais

cleric 3 paladin 3 kabbalist 1
or
cleric 1 priest 2 paladin 3 kabbalist 1
or
cleric 1 krivis 2 paladin 3 kabbalist 1

if you have a better build that has paladin 3 and kabbalist 1 in it, pls post.
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I love IMCompetent.
Friendly warning that missions are bugged and you get no exp from them.
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>>146846895
How.

How can they break something like this when they are just adding costumes?
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>>146846054
SLUT!!!
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>>146846932
They're called INCompetent for a reason anon.
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So cross server chat is a thing
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Is it worth it to take a single Paladin level for Smite if I'm making a Monk?

Or should I just take two ranks of Diev on the way there

It's gonna be Cleric 2, then either Diev 2 or Diev 1/Pally 1
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>>146846895
Orsha/Klaipeda server here, the mission queue works for us.
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>>146847134
Just do a Priest3 Monk3 if you go full memehybrid like Monk.
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>>146833282
This is great.
I really wanted to try a hop-fencer but I was afraid I would spend a lot of time on it and it wouldn't work on the end.
I might try this after I finish my alchemist.
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>>146846676
-please respond
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>>146847225
I thought about that but it felt too boring, and I'd have no attacking skills aside Monk ones
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>>146846895
>>146847060
>add costumes
>everything else fucking breaks
Truly amazing everytime I see this happen every patch.
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>gg
>ty
>ty
>yw
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>>146846895
That happens every single maintenance. They might be IMCompetent, but you're also a goddamn moron.

The moment you see more than 5 people in the instance, you might as well leave. Better yet, don't go to instances any time soon after maintenances. Since this happens
Every
Single
Fucking
Week
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>>146847348
Jewification always breaks things
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Can someone post that flaming popolion image? I need it
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>>146847414
not him but
>same bug happens everytime they patch meaning they dont know how the fuck to fix it
>it's the players fault
heh
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>>146847510
don't be a retard
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>>146847530
>break game every single patch
>get used to it man this is how it works!
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>>146847651
Kek'd, good one anon
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>>146847651
>putting gravity in the same place as IMC incompetence
I'm pretty sure you are the retard here.
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>Cleric > Priest3 > Chaplain > Cleric2 > Plague Doctor
Is there a reason as to why one would take cleric 2 at a later point instead?
Isn't X > Y > X2 the same as X > X2 > Y?
Or is my retardedness showing?
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>>146847818
Getting Chap sooner will help you kill things and leveling faster.
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>>146847769
Well they're both fundamental rules of the universe at this point
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>>146847818
DPS bump from priest to chaplain helps you leveling more much than heal tiles in earlier levels
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>>146847848
Ohhh. So i take it that it mostly applies to chap and not much on other classes?
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>>146847918
Don't fall for the chaplain meme.
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>>146847981
What's so meme about it anon?
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>>146848053
It's you're going support you better take Krivis, specially as a Priest.
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>>146847291

Cleric2 Diev1.
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>>146848053
You're not DPS cleric like Druid2. You're just support that can hit mobs harder than most cleric.
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So how expensive is a skill point reset thingy anyways?
I'm not terribly worried about it until like r5, but I'm definitely gonna need one eventually.
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am I the only one who thinks the new costumes look retarded?
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>>146848160
100 tp
10 dollars
not available to buy for silver
now go eat shit, retard.
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It takes real talent to break things this bad.
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>>146847060
>cross server chat is a thing
remind me why this general is still here

everyone is basically in discord or discord knockoff now
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Guys, does anyone that has done ET know if it gives exp at all or not?
Since it seems like a good place to grind exp with the near endless amount of mobs even if you can't clear any floors
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>>146846895
Same server senpai. Worked fine for me. Gained a level from the mission actually
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>>146848214
Who shit in your corn flakes?
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>>146846895
same thing happened to me in telsiai, not just exp bugging, silver was bugged too and gave endless streams of them but when looking in inventory, none was actually given
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>>146848214
Literal fucking retard, it's 88 tp
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Do you take breaks while playing this game, /tosg/?
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>>146848632
I spend more time breaking than playing so I don't even have 1 rank 7 character yet.
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>>146848632
GOLEM GET YE GONE
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>>146847504
All yours my friend ;)
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>>146848632
GOLEM GET YE GONE
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>>146848249
They give 0 exp.
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is rank 8 out yet
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>>146846676

What do you want to do?
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>>146849823
look cool as fuck while at the same time get accepted into every party for everything ever

also i want to have an easy job doing it
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Did you get the thing you wanted today?
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>>146849848
Are you taking paladin for the costume or the skills?
All paladin does is save you money on skill scrolls.
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>>146846676
>cleric 1 krivis 2 paladin 3 kabbalist 1
If only the game had partysizes of 10-15 people, then builds like these could be pretty cool.

Now, all builds which don't focus on DPS or massive buffs to DPS (like Pass) feels like such a waste.

Aside from Barrier, what does Paladin even bring to the table?
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>>146850080
Damage, you retard.

Do you not know just how powerful smite is?
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who can i message for a invite to the group chat?
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>>146850218
As a matter of fact, no.
Does it do more single target DPS than Fletcher? No?
Does it do more AoE DPS than EleMeme? No?

Into the trash it goes then. I'm pretty sure there's much better damage output and/or mob control skillsets available for Clerics.
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>>146849987
Nah
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Wow this is horribly designed.
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>>146850361
People like you are everything that's wrong with MMOs.
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>Cannot connect to the server
>Cannot connect to the server
>Cannot connect to the server
>Cannot connect to the server
>Cannot connect to the server
What the fuck
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>>146850218
This guy >>146850361 is right.
Paladin's damage is bad on most enemies, and only passable on demons/mutants.
Monk has better CC for the cleric tree, and Diev and/or Druid builds have better DPS.
Even Monk has better DPS than Paladin, and their DPS is a meme.

>>146850080
>what does Paladin even bring to the table?
Unfortunately not much.

Restoration + Aukuras gives a party stupidly high passive HP regen, but you need Kriv C3 so your heal tiles are shit.
Barrier is nice, but you can just buy the scrolls and ditch paladin.
Resist elements has a 19% chance of nullifying elemental damage (which amusingly includes fire and poison DoT) at C3, but is lackluster compared to other cleric defensive options.

In kToS, resist elements has also been buffed to reduce elemental damage by a fixed percentage (37.5% at level 15).
Good luck getting a kToS buff ported to iToS though.
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>>146850496
>Archers get the cutest costume
>again
We'll get a cute one eventually!
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>>146849987
Yah
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>>146850630
but the archer trump is shit
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>>146850714
4/5
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>>146850497
Well, if you don't care for min/maxing, then why do you even ask? Might as well make full Str spellcaster if you have fun doing that.

And it's not only our fault. Support builds could have a much, much higher variance if party sizes were bigger.
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>>146850849
It looks very cute here at least >>146846054
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>>146850292

Ask Shieruu when he's on.
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>>146851054
FWEE is cuter
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>Your lucky drops streak has ended
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how easy is it to reset skill points in this game?
trying to roll a wizard but i cant understand the cookie cutter build progression
and what about stat points?
as a wizard I should be going int and spr?
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>>146851682
>how easy is it to reset skill points in this game?
only with cash shop item. like 7$/€ or so

>and what about stat points?
>as a wizard I should be going int and spr?
0 SPR, a little CON or 0 CON if you(+your ping) are good, all other INT
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>>146851682
Resetting skill point costs $9 in NA and EU regions.
Stat point reset is not available in the TP shop.

Few classes raise SPR, since high level SP potions are potent and cheap.
Wizards usually go for a mix of INT and CON (INT preferred for DPS builds, CON for support builds), but you should wait for a real wizard to show up if you want build advice.
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>>146851820
so I cant carry shit in my inventory if I go wizard
also I was going to follow this build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111444f.112335516a7585.1f2131516575.15253451

so it goes,wizard>wizard 2>wizard 3>pyschochino 1,2,3 etc?
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>new hair costs 200 tp
>that's 20 dollars
>more than it costs to get a real haircut + styling
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>>146851962
>so I cant carry shit in my inventory if I go wizard
you can

i dont know about Psychokino, other looks ok
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>>146851962
> so I cant carry shit in my inventory if I go wizard
> full Str builds can carry about 8k
> base carry weight is 5k
Yeah, no. This isn't RO.
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>>146851974
It costs 20$ to get a haircut and I don't even get to keep it forever and trade it with my family.
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>>146852378
a good haircut could get you some fucc, though.

a $20 hair style in this game will get you laughed at for being dumb enough to give money to imcompetent.

and it won't last forever either. it's already f2p and pulling in awful numbers. you'll be lucky if this game is still up this time next year
>>
>block bot in town
>they whisper me a min later
THEY FUCKING KNOW
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>>146852621
but I bought my haircut with TP IMC gave me for buying tokens with silver :^)
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>>146852734
i also did this, now i'm sad i can't afford a chicken costume
>>
Just to be sure, but the benefits of Swell Right Arm apply to all damage, right? Not just sub-weapons attacks.
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>>146852621
>a good haircut could get you some fucc, though.
>
>a $20 hair style in this game will get you laughed at for being dumb enough to give money to imcompetent.
>
>and it won't last forever either. it's already f2p and pulling in awful numbers. you'll be lucky if this game is still up this time next year

Normies out
>>
What has been broken in the latest patch?
>>
What's so special about Thaumaturge? Their buffs don't seem all that special, yet I'm seeing them everywhere and they're highly recommended by high level players.
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>>146852621
>implying I get haircut because of boys
pls
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>>146852903
they buff drops and damage
they're my favorite support class to party with
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>>146852903
Go big or go home
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>>146852903
It adds a good chunk of extra damage to your entire party to the point you can almost consider your party is worth 6-7 players instead of 5.
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tfw you wake up and still the same thread
It's truly dead isn't it.
>>
So I have a perfectly viable, nigh-high end PC. Yet each time I tried to play ToS, the game always has this odd... skip when moving around a map. When you have to move the camera to reveal more of the area, if you will, the game had like a jitter. And that didn't go away even if I'd put the resolution at the upmost lowest. Taking in mind I can run shit like the Witcher 3 just fine, this was... odd.
I gave up trying after a while, made it too infuriating to be playable. Has there been any performance updates in the past two months or so?
Or, does anyone know of this issue and has any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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>>146853061
>good chunk of extra damage
>154 damage at 15
That's not even decent.
>+150 more after maxing the abilty
Decent but not good enough to make up for losing a slot for a potential dps. I can think of a few classes that do it better. (Pyromancer adds a whole line, Chaplain, Priest, and Krivis because Krivis can actually fuck shit up with Zaibas)
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>>146852903
It looks meh at the first glance. But if you take attributes into account, thaumaturge (especially at c3) is helluva strong support class.
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>>146853258
check your cpu usage, it's probably using 100% of 1 core. if it shares that core with another program you get jitter.
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>>146853312
the damage thaum adds gets multiplied in calculations, flat damage adds from things like pyro and priest drop off faster.
>>
>Lose track of buffs
>Transpose wears off
>Die in one hit because you went full int
Why can't all buffs last more than a few seconds to a couple minutes like the Oracle buff?
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>>146853575
>Lose track of buffs

Deadly for a support, specially a gimmicky one.
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>>146853575
>Dungeon run
>Lose my transpose because someone casted reflect shield
Evertyime.
I should start buying Daino scrolls.
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>>146853821
just yell at the sorcerer, like everyone else does
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>>146853821
>dungeon run
>archer share that buff
>wizard cast reflect shield every chance they get
>don't even stop when I told them to
I want to kys so bad.
>>
all this talk of thaumaturd makes me want to shit one out, but i'm afraid if i go thaum i won't get invited to the fancy grind parties. i don't even have friends that can get me in

what do?
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>>146853821
>in a dungeon
>should be doing dps
>transposed all int into hp for no real reason
kiss yourself softly
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>>146853312
> 154 base Swell Left Arm
> 150 from attribute
> 111 base Swell Right Arm
> 150 from attribute
> 565 total damage (both m. atk and p. atk) for all party members
> amplified by Enchance modifiers
Dude. Duuuuuuude.
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>>146853880
That's a good way to make them cast it at every opportunity.
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>>146854039
>what is equilibrium
>>
>>146854075
Or you could just get a 2nd Chronomancer and have an additional Pass which is going to make much more of a difference than the Thaum buffs for most groups. Thaum doesn't offer nearly as big of a dps boost as Pass unless you have a group of nothing but Fletchers with very short/nonexistent CDs.
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>>146854039
Play the game.
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>>146854032
Make your own party
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>>146853821
>People still casting Reflect Shield and that archer buff
They are useful enough with damage, no need to """""support""""" with their terrible """""buffs"""""
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>is fletcher
>random party dungeon run
>3 linkers
>mfw
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>>146854181
Do you walk around with no weapon too?
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>>146854181
Cleric here.
I'd take a Thaum C3 over a Chrono everyday of the week.
Cleric out.
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>Get in instance
>Asked not to buff
>I'm a c2 Priest

You, uh, want me to just leave then?
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>>146854075
And that's not even considering the BigHead, which is particularly useful since Elememes are the main DPS in current meta.

>>146854181
The cooldowns that matter aren't very long. All those boosts are not damage added to skills they're added directly to you atk/matk. They crit, are affected by % modifiers(including attributes).

It's a whole 565 atk/matk. Another +145 INT for Thaum3 big head buff. You're crazy if you don't think this is a huge boost.

Comparatively, it's almost like being given the full benefits of having gone full INT or STR on a character. For the whole party.
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>>146854181
Why not both?
Of course, it becomes counterproductive if we're talking about tank+healer+chrono+thaum+1 DPS. But in content where you can drop the tank, or possibly even the healer... that thaum suddenly looks a lot better.
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Chrono > Thaum

if you dont agree, you seriously need to kiss your self my gaymen
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>>146854432
so it's like shitting while standing but the turd doesn't fall in your underwear?
>>
>all these thaum talk
At least can we all agree that the best thing about this class is thaum master?
>>
Is this a good thaum build?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aaah.1f3f657585.1f21314c516a75.153555

How would you improve it?
>>
>>146854432
Oh don't get me wrong, it is a huge boost. For many classes it isn't as big as having a 2nd Pass though. If you want to look at probably the most extreme example you just have to ask any Elememe, having a 2nd Pass is going to give you significantly higher returns than all the hard stats from a Thaum3.
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>>146854650
RC is shit

Wiz3 is also shit without proper DPS circle
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>>146854432
>Comparatively, it's almost like being given the full benefits of having gone full INT or STR on a character. For the whole party.
You know, linkers can do that while also amplifying damage with links.
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>>146854704
Why's RC shit? I thought it was great.
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>>146854736
the Skills are shit. long cooldown. long cast time. not that much dmg.
only good for Ice skill boost combo with monks or cryowall. but even that shit has long ass cooldown and useless most of time.

its a shit meme class
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>>146854650
You should probably listen to the second part of >>146854704 and go pyro2 instead of wiz 3 unless you want to be bored out of your mind.
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>people falling for wiz3thaum3 memes
way to be the most fucking useless thaum build with one decent skill ever 17s
>>
>>146854939
hi depressed disinfo agent
still haven't gathered the courage to end it, have ya?
>>
>>146854939
but dude, the +% dmg boost from wiz3 is so great if you have like 0 dmg :^)
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>>146854736
Every RC skill has too long cooldown. Which makes it pretty much a meme class.
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>>146854968
You first disinfo agent.
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>>146854736
Cooldowns are too long and the skills underwhelming.

I'd say protection is the only well balanced skill of the kit, it's not killing conditions completely, has a downtime but the effect is still good, plague doctor could learn from this.
Ice needs to be up for every wall really. Destruction could use a lower cd otherwise it's decent enough.
Justice needs to get a huge % scaling and it could be somewhat worth investing in.
Giant is a movement speed buff with massive restriction on a 5 minute cd.

Class could have potential but imc doesn't give a shit really, the best proof is how justice was left unchanged since release.
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>>146854736
it's only for meme builds like the build of kings
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>>146821364
Which one is the mission everyone ques for only again?
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Wake me up after

Rank 8
STR buffs
Swordie buffs
New items in Saalus and other dungeons
Quests to 280
Working guild missions and raids
GVG and Arenas
New maps after 280 and new lvl cap
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>>146854736
All spells fill extreme niche roles.

Hagalaz is pretty much Meteor 2.0.
Isa is for memewall shards and nothing else.
Thurisaz is for cute screenshots of big jews. Worthless in combat because it disables your skills.
Tiwaz's damage doesn't justify the 4 second cast and difficult aim.
Algiz is pretty much useless in PvE. You need to invest in SPR to make it good (critical resistance), and the debuff resistance is only really noticeable if you already have a decent amount of SPR to start with.
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>>146855573
You can tell that IMC don't really give a damn about RC just by looking at the outfit.
Look at her. She's wearing a literally male RC costume but with cleavage. You don't get more lazy design than that.
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>>146855812
1st

>>146855834
cant wake you up
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>>146855812
Why is it called build of kings?
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>>146855887
Cuz only niggas play it
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>>146855834
>>
RIP hampster dreams
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>>146855953
>>146855886
CAN'T WAKE UP
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Is there a way to reconfigure Zoomy keys?
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>>146856035
show RIP hamspter dieded pls
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>>146855887
Because it's the XxXBOSSxKiLLERZXxX of wizards
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>>146856148

Oh no you must've confused me with Karga. It's just my daily "why can't my (stronger) guildmates go in???" episode.
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>>146856148
the baby is alright
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>>146855887
That's the name a random guy forced on us.
He'd lobby for the build every thread during kOBT before iTOS.
>>
Why are all Pelts so bad?
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>>146856540
>tauntbot
>not good
Have fun chasing mobs down.
>>
Can you use C while mounted?
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>>146857227
yes
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>>146856774
I'm not saying the class is bad, I'm saying people who play the class are bad.
>>
Why can't you use C and hit with your spear at the same time???
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>>146857545
>pretend to tank
and
>pretend to dps
at the same time? wow dude, you are crazy
>>
>>146857545
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/10304/
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>>146857545
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/10301
People don't know about the block
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>>146858119
>stabbing gives you evasion
>finestra nullifies your evasion

Very fucking funny retards from IMC
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>>146858183
solution:
don't use finestra while tanking

moron
>>
>Crossfire may be a trash aoe skill for 210+ high hp mobs, but it's still worth leveling 15 because it's your best filler for a world boss dps rotation.

Gotta love when people who have never actually been to a world boss suggest skill allocations.
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>>146858419
That's irrelevant retard.
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>>146856035
One day
It will work....for both of us....
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Anybody know where Big red griba is?
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>>146858419
finestra improves your blocking chance
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>>146781910
>>146782181
>>146782479
>>146782764
>>146783639
does not work.

2 r7 chars
1 Lv3
1 Lv1, delete hours ago
not one can see the arrow
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>>146858617
Because you can always use skill reset and rearrange points when you hit 280.
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>>146859095
>Because you can always use skill reset and rearrange points when you hit 280.

He's suggesting that for all people including those who are already 280, as someone who is not 280 and judging from that statement has never been to a world boss to realize why he's wrong.
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Can you guys post yourself in the new costumes please
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>>146858419
Braindead tostard.
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>>146857461
Because you can literally play the class with two buttons alone.
The same applies to elememes and why they're just as bad.
>>
>>146847060
Actually used to be able to do this early EA, but I forgot when it stopped working I think when they fixed the buddy list you could also friend people across server
>>
Generally speaking, PvP in any MMO is broken but by far PvP in this game is the most broken I've seen, especially wizards and cleric.

>wizard

Full CON wizards. What bullshit is this. Nigh-unkillable and yet still able to deal massive damage. Where's the downside? You wait until their skills are on cooldown, give your best shot and the wizard is still alive. Fuck.

>cleric

PvPing a healer in any MMO involves either killing him faster than he could heal or disabling and preventing him from doing his spells. Everyone and their mother goed PD so there's bloodletting. 60 seconds cooldown, okay, what's the duration? 55 seconds. 5 second window to disable and kill and any cleric worth his salt would just run away in this period.

The only meaningful PvP I get is against swordsman and archers but fuck wizards and clerics tbqh. I don't blame the players, IMC really, really, REALLY can't into balancing.
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>>146859291
nice try IMCshill
I'm not buying your garbage.
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>>146859540
>Full CON wizards. What bullshit is this. Nigh-unkillable and yet still able to deal massive damage. Where's the downside? You wait until their skills are on cooldown, give your best shot and the wizard is still alive. Fuck.

Soul link warlocks in vanilla WoW were the same before nerfs.

>PvPing a healer in any MMO involves either killing him faster than he could heal or disabling and preventing him from doing his spells. Everyone and their mother goed PD so there's bloodletting. 60 seconds cooldown, okay, what's the duration? 55 seconds. 5 second window to disable and kill and any cleric worth his salt would just run away in this period.

Shadow priests were the almost the same.
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>>146854467
Thaum has the better costume
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>>146859082

Is there a thread on the forums I can upboat to get this issue some spotlight
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>>146844170
GIVE

US

A

PATCH

OR

UPDATE

YOU

DIRTY

GOOKS
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>>146859823
ofcourse, but IMC does give 0 fucks
>>
Why do you care about patches you are all so bad just stay bad.

Reading your thoughts about balance is like reading fiction written by downies.
>>
>>146859540
Bloodletting should bleed at 0.5% max HP per tick in PVP IMO.
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>>146859540
High Mdef Equipment is really good against Full CON wizard.
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>>146859802
It does not. fug off, silly pooplion
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>>146859974
>Reading your thoughts about balance is like reading fiction written by downies.
Because it is more fun than playing the game, duh.
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Help me senpai-tachi: Should i run a tanky catagoon or a support chronolinker por my xth alt?
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>>146859802
This.
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>hating on thaum
It's like you're not a fletcher and hate getting easy cubes.
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7 years in development
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>>146860248
how long did ragnarok take to be made? 1 year?
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>>146860248
its still in beta, are we at 8y soon?
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>>146860303
3-4 years IIRC. It was fucking barebone back then though.
>>
Post something ;_;

Is everyone who is alive post on discord now?
>>
>Team Battle League
>if one side has a plague doctor and the other doesn't, the game is already over
>instead of nerfing bloodletting's strength, they nerf the duration
>80% of the matches end before the buff expires

That's what happens when you leave Kim Hakkyu in charge of class balance.
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Better guild boss rewards when?

These potions are so damn annoying to craft since no one ever has the required herbs
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>>146860809
Nice grammar, tard.
>>
>>146860908
>if one side has a kino c3 or more wizards and the other doesn't, the game is already over
FTFY

It's like we're at pre-iTOS announcement again
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>>146860923
The fuck you said about me you fucking mongoloid I'd destroy you with my bare left hand irl
>>
Have boy and girl characters
They cannot wear the same costumes

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
If you enhance i.e the Strength Pendant it also enhances it's abilities?
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>>146860809
STOP

THE GAME IS ALIVE

FUCK OFF

STILL STEAM 30 MOST PLAYED

FUCKING MISINFO AGENT

SEE https://steamdb.info/app/372000/graphs/ THE GAME IS FUCKING FINE JESUS CHRIST
FIRST OFF, I'M NOT "SHILLING" THE GAME WHATSOEVER, I'M VERY AWARE OF THE MANY FLAWS THIS GAME HAS. IT'S REALLY TIRING TO SEE SO MUCH WHINING AND NEGATIVITY. EVERYONE WANTS EVERYTHING FIXED INSTANTLY; EVERYONE EXPECTS THE GAME TO BE POLISHED BY THE TIME THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, BUT REALLY NEED TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.
IMAGINE HAVING TO PLEASE THOUSANDS OF CLIENTS AT THE SAME TIME, THE MAJORITY OF THEM THROWING SHIT AT YOU FOR NOT MAKING THE CHANGES IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE FACING EACH DAY, AND WE TREAT THEM LIKE THEY'RE ROBOTS, EXPECTING THEM TO RELEASE AMAZING PATCHES EACH WEEK. I SEE THINGS LIKE "IMC DOESN'T CARE!!" OR "IMC IS SO FUCKING STUPID, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING!!" ALL THE TIME, BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. IT'S UNFAIR FOR US TO JUDGE THEM BY THEIR ACTIONS WHILE COMPLETELY DISREGARDING THEIR INTENTIONS.
I'M ALL FOR DISCUSSION THREADS LIKE THIS ONE, IT HELPS DEFINE WHAT THE GAME LACKS AND MAY BE USED BY THE DEVELOPERS TO HELP BETTER THEIR GAME. I'M SURE A LOT OF US JUST WANT THE GAME TO BE BETTER, SO INSTEAD OF WHINING, WE COULD JUST ENCOURAGE MORE MEANINGFUL, MATURE DISCUSSIONS.
I KNOW THE DEVELOPERS SEEM TO LACK COMMUNICATION, BUT I IMAGINE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID SAYING ANYTHING THAT MAY BE TAKEN THE WRONG WAY, AS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE WHO WILL TAKE THEIR STATEMENTS NEGATIVELY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T COMMUNICATE, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING FOR THEM TO WORK ON, TO BE HONEST. I JUST THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO TONE DOWN THE TOXICITY, AND AVOID RUINING SOME OTHER PERSON'S DAY.
I KNOW THIS WILL PROBABLY BE IGNORED, BUT THAT'S JUST MY VIEW ON THIS WHOLE ORDEAL.
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>>146861038
>kino C3
It looks like you haven't played kTOS recently.
>>
>>146861154
ure a nigger
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>>146861068
>Pendant
only mdef

>>146861154
tldr
>>
>>146861154
ure a nigger
>>
>>146861154
i think your capslock is on
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>>146861235
>Implying Gravity Pole nerf in arena means something when you have Magnetic Force or Raise
>>
>it's another barb2 corsair gets carried in the mission because they're fucking worthless episode

kill urself
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>>146861154
u're feg
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>>146861468
>Raise
>Removable by Fumigate
Yeah, thanks for proving my point.
>>
>>146861154
What a bunch of stupid shit
>>
>>146861564
Fumigate is awful for that. You have to get up close to the person that's raised without actually stepping into the magic circle yourself to use it for that purpose. Indulgentia on the other hand
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>Strenght Pendant (+10 Phys at, +20 crit at.)
>or
>Neckalce of Gluttony (+10STR)
Which one is better?
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>>146861154
Wrong board m8
Think you were looking for this one
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/
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>>146861154
/tosg/ is truly the worst general of /vg/

Worse than Dota.

At least dotards have fun and tostards are just suicidal losers.
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>>146861729
Good thing Plague Doctors can get one circle in Pardoner for that sweet Indulgentia, MDEF and Discerning Evil. Clerics are balanced.
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>>146861729
You can fade and cross fade without any harm, but still Fumigate is awful
>>
>>146861826
Max Petamion
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We had a very unlucky roll with the entry lottery today, only 2 of us saw the entrance.
Then we proceeded to take on the mission anyway, since I wanted to learn more about how best to manage the Drake AI.
We completed the run, amazingly enough, and though we only got Talt, we have a much better grasp on how to do the last room now.
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>>146862390
To shitpost and make people quit.
>>
>>146862390
y r u?
>>
>>146862390
Because the game is shit.
If it was good I would be playing it.
I'll move on to another when I find one and also move general.
Until then you'll just have to deal with it.
>>
>>146862452
what kind of pony loving faget quits a game over a 4chan post
>>
>>146862452
You're doing a pretty shit job at it mate.

>>146862486
Because I'm not a retarded /v/ermin crossboarder and actually enjoy the game. I don't get in thread to shitpost on a game I hate or don't play.

>>146862531
See above cuckling.
>>
>>146862531
so basically you are just mad that people are having fun lûûl
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>>146862673
No one is having fun you delusional moron
IMC killed fun with their guild neutrality and catering to casuals
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>>146862364
How long did it take with only two people?
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>>146862852
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>>146862852
I wonder why IMC even caters to casuals when its the hardcore community that actually spends shekels on tp
>>
>create a maven party
>couldn't find any swordsman and chrono 3
>have 3 elememe in party including me, and 2 healer
>shit party, but let's try
>the 2 Full CON and Half CON elememe watch me luring all mobs with DT and normal attack
>I cast my FC which can deal enough to kill a pack of mobs, they both stack their FC on it.
>Tell them that I can one shot them with my FC, they still does it multiple time.
>I saw a lone mob, my DT on CD, so I hinted them that my DT is on CD.
>They waited for my DT to finish CD such that I can kill it.
>They literally don't do anything other than stacking FC on my FC.
>Left the party.
>They are still searching for new members after 1 hour.
>>
>>146862960
because the only people who would even willingly play on the kTOS version are super casual or autists
>>
Is there any particular reason why some swordsman builds don't take gung ho? Is the decreased defenses really that detrimental?
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>>146861154
Nice bait.
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>>146862639
>actually enjoy the game.
But i also do that.
>>
>>146863095
Percentage evasion scaling > flat damage boost
>>
>>146861154
I swear that people announces the death of the game every maintenance where they don't hit a home run and fix everything.
Maybe this is because I'm an older gamer from the RO launch days but I feel like I'm the only one in this thing for the long haul. RO was way too good, too, to compare it to ToS is a bit unfair.
>>
>>146863095
Def>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the attack unless you're a fencer who never gets hit by physical mobs
>>
>>146862852
heheheHAHAHA
>>
>>146861154
I'd like to also point out that IMC isn't particularly agile. It's the NA deparment of a primarily Korean game company that is operating through a network of other publishers and/or distributors (Steam). Stuff isn't going to change as fast as say, your typical RO private server.
That being said we've received a shockingly immediate response to some things. Examples being the early access release model, addon abuse, etc.
Unfortunately, I'm willing to bet the reasons these things happened so immediately is because someone very loudly complained on the forums. Hum.
>>
>>146861154
>>146863417
I honest to god can't understand why people want kTOS updates anyhow, every single update in the recent past has made things either a tad better or flat out fucked up something really badly.
>>
>>146863095
>Is the decreased defenses really that detrimental?
No. Defense is not that significant, even late game with full Plate it won't drop your defense enough where you'll really be crying about it unless you're some stupid build like Sword 3 and level 15 Gung-Ho with max attribute. I have never had trouble staying alive using Gung-Ho and I'm level 259. Gung-Ho gives you a much needed boost for grinding and questing early on and a minor boost late game when your DPS is sorely lacking.

It's not significant enough where it really matters though. Some people prefer the attacking moves to have more variety in their skills. I personally didn't take any of the attacking moves and just maxed the 3 buffs. Have never regretted it.
>>
>>146863417
>shockingly immediate response to some things
>addon-abuse
>I've been making tens of millions silver a week autopotting and IMC hasn't lifted a finger about it
>>
>>146863417
>That being said we've received a shockingly immediate response to some things. Examples being the early access release model, addon abuse, etc.

It was so fast only because this is the only job they can do fast.
They are retarded when it comes to coding and they are not ready to support both ktos and itos and the same time.

And it's 2016, not some 2000. Their outdated "we put changes on ktos first and after 1/2 year we do the same on itos" model is just pathetic.
>>
>>146863417
>because someone very loudly complained on the forums
Most people get ignored or shitposted to death though, sadly.

You need to be one of the most popular attention whores/shitposters there pretending to care about something and start complaining, people will instantly follow them and if they get enough attention, "random" people can start complaining en masse in hopes that IMC finally gives some immediate attention.
>>
>>146863095
Defense is never that detrimental unless you're a Cafrisun shitter trying to facetank Blue Spion Archers.

CON, level difference, type of armor, all matter more than defense itself. Late game you'll be so tanky you'll barely be grazed while using gung ho.
>>
>>146863657
I want the pvp balance changes and gvg/arenas, open world pvp with dispellers, psycospam, and stoneskin/revive is a mess.
>>
Why does everyone want to use roxona? the stats aren't even that fantastic.
>>
>>146864283
What's wrong with dispellers? Some builds are literally invisible without them.
>>
Anyone else feel like the skill system is utter garbage? I understand where they were trying to go with this, but holy shit it's such a piece of shit to play around with.
>>
>>146864373
High defenses I'm guessing.
>>
>>146864558
they need to fix skill scaling and everything would be fine
>>
>>146864578
Then wouldn't they just go grynas instead?
>>
>>146864405
I think you meant invincible non-english speaking anon.
>>
>>146864676
Grynas is time gated and some people are impatient.
>>
>>146864373
>Why does everyone want to use roxona? the stats aren't even that fantastic.

Because it's the most """end game"""""""common set, easily obtainable from market.

Your other choice is:
Grynas plate set gimmick for weeks
Virtov 240 for weeks (can't even craft plate except pants)
Elkosh / Ibre gimmicks.

And of course lolopantsu heh
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>>146862364

why even do the dungeon are you guys retards

the pets only last a month, why would you waste your time for that

so you can afk in the town channel 1 for attention?
>>
>>146864373
Aoe attack ratio is insanely good, mages also don't have the bonus def swordies do so con helps them 10x more than def, fencers also love the spr boost alot more than shitty more evade from ibre set when they already dodge everything non-magic.

Outside the armour and plate gauntlets through, the stats are pretty meh unless you need help for the 170-220 range.
>>
Does healing factor scale with your base HP recovery? I wanna roll a Paladin PD.
>>
>>146864852
Superior royal guard.
>>
>>146864676

Farming grynas is a pain. But yeah, no reason to use full roxona most of the time.

Full con has no reason to use the armor, knight armor gives a better ehp, the 220 white armor is even better

legs is garbage except on pvp

gloves is nice but 3p+vubbe fighter is better usually, except if you really need that hp


boots is beautiful for stamina users
>>
>>146864978
Garbage and not really endgame worthy.
Grynas is significantly better
>>
>>146864978
Gives no "cool" stats.
>>
>>146864917
>attention
why else would you do anything in life
>>
>>146865090
>>146865090
>>146865090
>>146865090
>>146865090

Move softly
>>
>>146865007
Do you even know how aoe def works anon?
It means you're taking the damage first when an aoe is used and taking the highest percentage of it.

Unless you're a tank or don't mind taking one for the "team", roxona plate boots sucks.
Its the reason alot of corsair dwa memers get raped so hard when an aoe is thrown at the team
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thaum 3 bad
thaum 2 gud
>>
>>146864558
The only problem I have with the skill system is it's unfairly punishing. The game neglects to tell you a lot of mechanics of a lot of skills and IMC can and will buff/nerf skills at random meaning your build can just go to shit after 1 update. This wouldn't be a big deal but they don't have the courtesy to give you 1 free skill reset. I'm not going to reroll, I'm going to quit. Not out of anger but if you're expecting me to regrind back level 280 just because you didn't like something then no. I'm not going to do that. There's no skill or foresight involved here, if IMC arbitrarily decides you're too good then down you go even if at the end of the day your class wasn't even that amazing. Did something like Sadhu really deserve a nerf? Sadhu 3 is average even pre-nerf, the only difference is back then it was actually useable.

I shouldn't have to scour the forums for 4 hours before making a build just to know if it's okay. Obviously some builds are meta and you'll need to do that but I should be able to make something half-decent based on common sense and reading what the game tells me. That's just simply a risky endeavor at the moment.
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Why the fuck I cannot craft multiple items?
It just stops at first one even though I assigned to craft x200
>>
>bots now have blank team names, so no reporting or blocking features work on them
Bravo, IMC
>>
>>146865856
they just send me blank whisper
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