/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

lumpy body eww

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>>146773136
First for BETTER THAN WARSWORD

Any fags ups for meme invasion?

>>146773324
The normal host is gone for a few months

>>146773380
I-I can still do it ;_;

>>146773438
Host CoMM 0.41 instead.

>>146773291
>>146773291
An overhead map view is always going to be stronger unless its unusable, like in warwolf how there is no topographical information displayed, so you dont know where a hill is to put your archers on or set your cavalry atop of. In warwolf i dont use it at all for this reason, it screws up optimal placement.

You could make it a skill you have to spend points on.

Ideally, the way i would do things, is i would have a sort of initial formation planner, where you can select where your units stand and save formations, and then you can call those formations out in battle. It makes sense since the implication is that they are well practiced formations the men all know.

Then any on the fly maneuvering has to be done by shouting and pointing from your horse, not some satellite view with point and click ease.

These fucking female face models in ACOCK, holy shit what was Cuckzur thinking? They all look chubby and fat.

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LONG MAY HE REIGN

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Fly-by tactical command placement is something mount&blade needs imo

>>146774404
The fuck is with these early 2000's style gifs

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>>146774404

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>start playing M&B for the first time today
>come across a huge cliff with my enemies at the bottom
>sit there pondering how i'm going to reach them since surely a drop from that height will kill me
>my swadian men at arms approach the cliff
>start panicking in an attempt to keep them from offing themselves
>they start slowly sliding down a fucking vertical cliff
>follow after them
>mfw

does height in VC effect things like hitbox or weapon reach? Speed on foot?

>>146774887
It scales your hitbox and gives you +1 strength

Think thats it

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this mod seems to have a lot of focus on RP aspects, featuring zithers, hunting, fishing, cooking, etc

>>146774990
By the time its released and even possibly has a translation we'll probably have bonerlord so who cares

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>>146775092
yeah true, the warband version has been developed for years without a release so far
supposedly it should be coming along soon though

>>146773645
The warwolf minimap is completely useless for efficient orders, yeah.
I think if it had topo info it still wouldn't be perfect/outright better, because it's not as exact as third/first person ordering due to scale and 2D view.

What's the difference between a right click and an F1? Does making the F1 slightly more powerful really ruin any sense of you personally leading? I think that's the main stick here. I don't think it'd ruin anything to be able to issue orders in a manner similar to total war (don't get too triggered by a TW comparison - I mean right click move, rclick drag to set rank/file, right click an enemy unit to have that unit charge that one), it just changes the button that is used (F1 to right click) and makes that one button multipurpose (Which is good! It makes ordering quicker and easier in general, because IRL you can issue an order with a few words)

Overall, you're still standing pretty close, you're still telling people to stand in a spot - just with rclick, not F1. I'm not saying Supreme Commander tier zoom, or even StarCraft zoom or angle - it's not a satellite.

Formations would be cool in general.

Also if you're sitting in the back ordering your men around such that the zoomed out matters much, you're not on the field fighting, so it's not inherently better. A player fighter is a helluva monster.

Sorry if this is slightly rambly. I edited it several times and then I got lazy

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>>146775092
personally I've been waiting a long time for a historically accurate and well-researched china mod so I'm pretty excited
I can tell from all their blog and forum posts that they spent a shit ton of time researching to make things historically accurate, down to geographical features. Their entire team is full of re-enactors and shit, and the mod looks pretty well done. I hope I'll get to play it before warband becomes irrelevant...

>>146775642
desu once butterlord comes out I'm never looking back

>>146775728
No shit. Unless it's unplayable or they're hiding some godawful changes, it seems completely superior so far, same as original -> warband.

I might even try my hand at modding it.

>>146775296
>>146773645
http://v.qq.com/boke/page/v/v/j/v0301rofpvj.html
this is the minimap and formation system in the latest video of 《戎马丹心-汉匈决战》 Rongma Danxin: Han Xiong Jue Zhan, i.e: Han-Hun Total War

the formation system and UI is pretty detailed, and it has free camera overhead formation placement and such, so you can play total war without having to play total war

One formation this mod seems to have that I haven't seen in any other mods are cantabrian circles, which are pretty neat
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTMyNTQ3ODE1Ng==.html

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>>146776314
some of the formation commands: four directional movement, formation rotation, etc

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>>146776746
some more formation options, including what appears to be the ability to split a battle group into two groups on the fly mid-battle

>>146776314
Pretty neat. The flying around camera might be too big of a change, given the original's style. I say this because RTS and whatnot tend towards "you" not being physically present, so there's generally no reason for a PoV limitation....but in M&B you're an obvious entity in the battle, so generally "should" have some limitations.
I don't particularly mind it's so free, but not quite what I personally was visualizing.

Other than that, it's yanking all the F-menus&sub-menus out and getting more use of the mouse we have, which is appreciated.
Hopefully the F menus are still functional, though.

>>146773972
never played that mod
pics?

In native nord infantry are just cheating. A group of equal warriors can beat anything in the game. Even in sieges, because one you are on the all the strength of the infantry is all that matters. Getting Vetrean is just a matter of having 7+ training and having 100 warriors in your party, you can get 5 vets a night.

>>146778251
Knights are better for cheesing field battles and Sharpshooters for breaking siege assaults

CLEAR

>>146778713
Maybe, but for 1 unit type battle, say you have 250 people because your renown is sky high and they hvent fixed the first unit gets shitloads in the battle thing, nord infantry is a head above anything else for an all purpose army. Knights are ok during sieges, but are expensive and nothing compared to vets or huscarls. And sharp shooters get the same way during field battle of over 2 waves. If your looking to just run around with an army instead of heading back and swapping for every situation, there is nothing better then pure nord infantry.

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>>146774761

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When will we finally see the Khuzait faction?

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>>146782001
>wanting to fuck a horse

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU4NjA1OTc5Ng==.html?qq-pf-to=pcqq.c2c

new 24 min vid by the 12th century mod team

>>146782001
>every time you shoot a horse from under them, you are really shooting their centaur wife that morphed
>This is why they break so easy and suck at sieges, they are nothing without their wives
Also
>that last use

once held off a 2100 man khergit army with 250 nord infantry and 200 rhodok sharpshooters. Felt great

>>146782283
Was this a joke post? This is just footage of Anno

>>146782471
>new vid
>from 1257 mod team
>its just footage from anno

>>146782579
1257 is 13th century m8

>>146782695
Yea but hes a moron, cant fix stupid

>>146782579
the 1257 team isn't Chinese though

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>>146782579
Dr.Tomas is Lithuanian.
And that is literally just footage from Anno 1404 on a dodgy slant-eye chink site.
Are you literally some Xi Xing Xei motherfucker shilling your shitty product on /mbg/?

>>146782471
ya ur retarded, it's not 1257 AD, it's 12th century mod and has China, Western Liao, Jurchens and shit

>>146782283
>http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU4NjA1OTc5Ng==.html?qq-pf-to=pcqq.c2c
>total war music

I love china's complete disregard for copyright and all that shit.

>>146782957
no you have to go past it, there are a minute of ads, then footage, trust me I spent the time. Click into the 8 mintue range. Im just saying there it really is footage of people getting shot over and over again by arrows like it was a machine gun.

>>146783164
they prefer copywhite

>>146783164
>/mbg/ caring about copyright
it's music for the trailer, the actual mod isn't going to have it

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>>146783230
my ass
>>146782283
>new 24 min vid
>oh but there's like 5 mins of ads and footage that's definitely not a UBISOFT GAME
fuck off you dog-eating lemon

>>146783380
Why are you being defensive

>>146783380
don't misunderstand me, I wasn't even mad about it. It's fine desu.

CHINKS LEAVE

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>>146783576
you reave

>>146783576
this

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>>146783576
>cao cao poster was a chinaman all along

The chinkmod has been in the pastebin forever
http://www.moddb.com/mods/12th1

>>146782957
>>146783395
>>146783576
>chinese cartoon poster hates chinese
woah

>>146783772
it's going to get a big update soon

>>146783890
>it's going to get a big update soon

nigga it's been stuck on .3 for 4 years straight, that shit is deader than an int character in PoP

>>146783772
>6. The age of all characters in the game grows older when the time moves forward.

>>146784308
nah, there's been update posts and shit on the chinese forums and stuff

>>146783762
as long as he knows kung fu and is somewhat attractive it's cool

i can't wait to see how mad people will be when they see no battlemap option in bannerlord

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>>146784697
I for one am going to have tons of fun wondering where the last 3 guys in the enemy battle force are as they run, routing, across the map.

>>146785173
the 25km^2 map*

Gimme a mod to play

>>146785173
>not control f4ing after they rout and just leaving them behind like they were dead
Its like you enjoy wasting time.

>>146785369
WFAS

>>146784434
t. chink

>>146785391
>cheating
wow I would never do that.

>>146785449
Its not heating, I gt no benefit out of it, as a matter of fact I lose money from prisoners I leave behind. All that happens is that the game goes faster.

I hope that bannerlord will rejuvenate the modding community by attracting lots of new players with the slightly better graphics. Though on the other hand, bannerlord raises the bar for mods, since crappy assets will look severely out of place. This might limit the number of mods and scope of mods being made, since quality assets have a higher skill floor and take longer to make

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>>146785526
>trying to justify cheating
>even having cheats enabled

>>146785408
Well I havent played it all since around launch, guess I could give it another go

>>146785526
>it's not cheating
>it's a cheat

>>146785557
It's a good thing a lot of the better mods don't necessarily need high-quality graphics (see: diplomacy, etc)

But yes, if it's harder to make graphics it might lower the amount of mods produced. Ah, well.

>>146785437
http://bbs.mountblade.com.cn/thread-1884705-1-1.html
http://bbs.mountblade.com.cn/forum.php
beloved mod "warwolf" took many cues and inspiration from chinese mods.
russians and chinese mutually inspire and innovate, while western mods are just reskins of floris
in the world of Mount and Blade, chinese and russians are innovators

>>146783772
is this worth downloading?

anyone that doesn't browse russian and chinese M&B forums is frankly missing out on pro mods

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>>146773136
who?

>>146785619
bullshit quests that you can never find he people to kill, that last looter, the bandits you have to find before any other army gets them, you cant get enterprises before getting one quest done in each city.

>>146786250
Shariz

>>146786250
sarranids
make the world !muslim, and clad in gold.

>>146786250
NORDS

>>146786324
you realize you can just order a round of drinks in the tavern or win tournaments to build relations for enterprises right?
you actually never have to do a single guild master quest ever

>>146786380
>>146786387
I always bully the sand people when I play though. I dont want to be one of them

>>146786489
that's why you need to join them this time.

>>146786324
>>146786483

I thought it was 0 relations min for enterprise.
Maybe all the mods just change it, or I somehow always have positive relations?

>>146786250
Tulga
enjoy 7.5 map speed steppe bandits

Best way to find Jeremus?

from the makers of this nice gem

https://youtu.be/ZaDaqr5tAv0

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>>146787143
>>146787143
>>146787143
>>146787143

comes this, a whole new adventure!

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>>146787330
>>146787330
don't take my word for it, let the screenshots do the talking!

>>146787519
What am I looking at

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>>146787519
>star trek theme plays in the distance

>>146787143
Why do russians make the most autistic mods

>>146787058
teleport everywhere, check the taverns.

>>146787330
>>146787519
>>146787732
Is...is this even warband

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>>146787681
here the synopsis:
This sci-fi is a modification of the ideological and logical continuation of the fashion Dawn of a new era (of Dawn of a new ERA) . If the first part of the main character to become the legendary Chosen One, to find all the relics of the ancient emperors and unite Calradia under his rule, in the second part there is a need to do directly with the invasion of alien creatures in order to put an end to it. For this will have to select the satellite to go to them using one of the UFOs. Many people remember that during his travels found the crash site of the first UFO, over the years, abundantly overgrown with grass and bushes, where humanoids subsequently rebuilt a small base, which regularly fly in reinforcements from their world. It is clear that there is no middle ages long gone, for extraterrestrial civilizations already traveled abroad, both part of the culture, and on arms. The player can either support one of the two large corporations, leading endless war for resources and territory, as well as create their own. At the same time it is seen for what purpose made Calradia invasion. Initially several expeditions arriving to search for the missing team, drop ship which local illiterate peasants thought it had fallen from the sky stone, the next came with less than peaceful purposes. Probably will find like-minded companions, a vast arsenal of new weapons, the strange creatures and even driving the abandoned planet with valuable content. It is worth noting that the previous experience gained in the world, will not disappear, and in addition you will get new knowledge of other worlds. The medieval mind is not quite ready for such a shock, but the real hero quickly adapts by redistributing their skills.

>>146787732

>>146787852
Aight, thanks.

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>>146787852
it's starlight for warband

>>146787973
>>146787973

>>146774404
>Fly-by tactical command placement is something mount&blade needs imo

No. It doesn't.

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>>146788210
& this is it

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>>146787973
>This sci-fi is a modification of the ideological and logical continuation of the fashion Dawn of a new era (of Dawn of a new ERA) . If the first part of the main character to become the legendary Chosen One, to find all the relics of the ancient emperors and unite Calradia under his rule, in the second part there is a need to do directly with the invasion of alien creatures in order to put an end to it. For this will have to select the satellite to go to them using one of the UFOs. Many people remember that during his travels found the crash site of the first UFO, over the years, abundantly overgrown with grass and bushes, where humanoids subsequently rebuilt a small base, which regularly fly in reinforcements from their world. It is clear that there is no middle ages long gone, for extraterrestrial civilizations already traveled abroad, both part of the culture, and on arms. The player can either support one of the two large corporations, leading endless war for resources and territory, as well as create their own. At the same time it is seen for what purpose made Calradia invasion. Initially several expeditions arriving to search for the missing team, drop ship which local illiterate peasants thought it had fallen from the sky stone, the next came with less than peaceful purposes. Probably will find like-minded companions, a vast arsenal of new weapons, the strange creatures and even driving the abandoned planet with valuable content. It is worth noting that the previous experience gained in the world, will not disappear, and in addition you will get new knowledge of other worlds. The medieval mind is not quite ready for such a shock, but the real hero quickly adapts by redistributing their skills.

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>>146788210
Khuzaits will dominate the galaxy.

>>146788501
is this thing even playable a bit?
I can't even google this shit

>>146785369
The Last Days.

Sturgia - Viking meme
Battanian - Wiccan meme
Khuzait - Hentai centaurs
Empire - Rome spergs, BIG EMPIRE XBOWS
Vlandia - Blandia

Are the Aserai the only pure faction?

>>146787825
i think you mean "unique," and "visionary"
if not for russians, warwolf/warphilia/sott wouldn't have happened to push the boundaries of what was possible in warband

>>146789039
Aserai - generic "le ebin arabs xD"

>WFAS doesnt have your army fighting after you get KO'd

The memories are coming back

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>>146788558
not lying

>>146788689
>>146788689
w.i.p

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>>146789039
aserai = alberto barbosa

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>>146789259
ah, it's dawn of the new era not some starlight, got it. So it's from the same autists who have us HOMM mod?

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>>146789504
no it's the same autists who's making a decent looking tes mod

>>146789824

Has there not been a decent one out so far? Seems a bit strange honestly.

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>>146789824
>>146789824

Alright I'm back and ready for that warsword patch!

I know I'm like 3 weeks late haha I bet you guys have been enjoying a bug free warsword this whole time!

Alright now where's the patch!

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>>146789039
>BIG EMPIRE XBOWS

>>146789987
There's Morrowind House Wars but that's the only one I can think of.

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I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.

>>146789987
there's this
http://www.moddb.com/mods/morrowind-house-wars
&
http://www.moddb.com/mods/war-in-tamriel

>>146789039
Aserai - Aloha Snack-bar meme

pretty VC female when

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>>146790656

10 days

>>146790882
can this post be trusted
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>mfw trying to find a bandit lair in a new mod
Can anyone help me? I'm looking for a sea raider. pirate landing. 1257, the lord that gave me the quest only owns Bristol.

>>146790882
source? Fucking hate the 80% trash women in the game. I dont want a waifu, just dont want a witch. Fucking peasants look better then most of them.

>>146789039
Rome is the best meme of all time.

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>>146791006
>mfw I forgot my fucking face
someone pls assist

>http://commando.com.ua/mb/modswarband/3422-mod-star-wars-conquest-na-warband.html

fucking ivan is doing something right guys.

>>146791195
I don't speak commie, but STAR WARS is pretty universal.

>>146791171
Why's there raspberry juice, lime juice and vanilla sauce pouring out of her?

>>146790483
warwolf

literally sex ghosts and sam neil

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>>146791358

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>>146790570
>War in Tamriel
>1. December 2014
>The mod isn't dead, do not worry.

>>146791330
>>146791395

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Not gonna lie I've been thinking it would be rad as fuck to be able to have a statue of yourself in the capital city of your vast empire once it reaches the peak.

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>>146791508
>The mod isn't dead, do not worry.

>>146791330
She's miscarrying faith.
>>146791568
>>146791395
No, shut up. Possession is 2deep4u.

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>>146790997

When have I ever led you astray?

I haven't even played VC yet

>>146791749
>no tits
it's shit

>>146791327
apparently it has it's own steam discuss

http://steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/385429254947905291/

>>146791804
Tits are based on the armor, just change their armor and your set.

are there any mods/tweaks where helmets take hair into consideration?

i dont want to be bald when i wear hats

Anyone have that Wiccan battanian vs small empire picture?

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Expand east or keep taking nordic lands?

is the guy who made the basic formations guide in the pastebin here? there's a few things you could change

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>run down mountain bandits
>surprise bandit hero
>you have 130 troops fit for battle against their 613

>>146792562
depends on garrison counts for the closest fiefs
just try not to border with a third faction

>>146792670
Mod?

>>146792802
floris

>>146792784
I just beat 550 with 170 tier 4 units. Im not really worried about that. Nord infantry with sharpshooters shooting up at the walls spawn point from inside the castle.

>>146792940
>he has the difficulty turned down
take buluga castle and rivacheg, become the northern scourge
lorefags shut up, this IS the north

>>146792841
>floris

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>>146793247
If by turned down you mean automatic blocking, yes. But I use a shield so it doesnt really matter, havent used it since the game started. I guess I can go to war with everyone afterwards and just raid the villages.

>>146793740
>150 battle size
Why so low though?

>>146793713
>>floris
>>146793740
>manual lance control
Why?

>>146794150
probably to keep the tictac skill relevant

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So this guy is just a bandit wanting to be king?

>>146793740
>But I use a shield so it doesnt really matter
so why no set it to manual and actually learn to play the game?

>>146794161
>he can't control his own lance

>>146794520
A bandit? No, that's just fuedalism.

>>146794565
I can, it's just such a minor setting that I don't see a reason to switch it at all.

>>146794161
Its fun to keep it straight. Its the little things, and I only use it in tournaments.

>>146794150
Base size of diplomaccy mod. Im not going to mess with it.

>>146794785
mods don't determine your battlesize

>>146794785
There is no "base size for X mod"
All the options in that menu are carried over between different mods
If you want bigger battles, get the Warband battle sizer

>>146794878
Native battle size is 150, so unless you have a mod its 150, diplomacy didnt change it. If you mean why not smaller, when you have a decent sized army its better for you to have it large, as you can wrap around the other side. Cheating to start small so i keep it large the whole time.

>>146794967
But some mods use VC or something as the base so you get huge battles because it allows you to have that size. I remember one being like that so I had to change it to 200 because it was too many people.

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>>146795092
>Native battle size is 150, so unless you have a mod its 150, diplomacy didnt change it
No mods really change battle size (except VC), the setting is universal. 150 is really small, if your computer can handle 300 wouldn't you rather have battles of 150v150 instead of 75v75?

>go to mount and blade official site
>literally a download section for all the games they have
>"disclaimer, even if you download those files you will still need an activation key to use our products, which can be acquired only by buying the game"
>whatever, i'll just download a crack
>game runs without asking me for a key or me editing anything

are they retarded? did they hack their website? what the fuck.
i mean yeah, i cannot access multiplayer, but they literally give out singleplayer for free.
they better not do the same with bannerlord.

note that i never cracked or used any activation key before (or even installed the game) on this hard drive, so it's not like the game got information from the registry.

>>146795513
They gave out single-player, but only let you go up to level 5.

>>146795353
Is...this a warband image? I'm so confused.

>>146795513
They know that whatever they do people will crack it, so they give people a demo. Its a good thing, and even if it is abused Im glad that they do it. Its why I paid for the game instead of cracking it.

>>146795632
no it's just an image

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When will they learn?

>>146795632
looks like Medieval II Total War desu

>>146795731
Is that the one that keeps calling you "handsome"?

>>146795731
That upturned noses make people look like pigs? I dont know, that 90% of their women, I think someone has a fetish.

>>146795827
Yes.

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>that feel when you renounce your king and start your own faction and get a bunch of lords to defect with you

>>146795903
fucking cunt, i specifically told her to cut that shit out and she kept doing it
wish i could have crucified her

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>2 weakest factions are the only ones making gains
How does this even work.

>>146796715
The stronger ones get complacent and start feasting to much

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So I haven't been to this general in a few years now I don't think.

Is Bannerlord going to have actual Lord death and birth and stuff? I've been playing a lot of Clash of Kings lately and it's becoming increasingly apparent how the inability for named characters to actually die makes things so anti-climactic.

>>146797041
Pretty sure there should be, every ingame year is 12 weeks, so if deaths don't occur, named Calradians will be confirmed immortal.

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>232/12
>beat lords on 9 seperate occasions ranging from 1-3 each time
>beat the king twice
>took a town
>still afraid of them

>>146797041
it sounds like it which is a shame, but then i think the entire structure of kingdom type stuff is a shame. Id much rather play as a comfy bandit 'lord' with a small band of ~20 guys robbing caravans and evading the law or something.

Im tired of the "make big army and turn the map red" game style.

More smaller scale stuff, little villiage quests, things like that. One of my favorite things is breaking out lords from castles.

Wouldnt it be neat if you could be a bandit and have a lord approach you to hire you to not harass his caravans and harass the caravans of his enemies if they pass through your teritory? Then you could set traps on bridges and plan ambushes.

So much potential.

But it vanishes when you move away from a short time period centric playthrough of just a hear or two, to compressing things so you can have children and grandchildren and you are not playing a character at all but managing some lord-sims you can directly control. bleh.

>>146797250
Even 12 weeks to a year puts character life spans well above the day count of the average warband playthrough. Not dying of old age wouldn't be that off

>>146791508
>>146791626

No worries. I hear they got the DaggerXL guy to help out.

>>146797857
The fuck is 232/12?

>>146797983
I absolutely want more small-scale stuff as well. It's much more personable, and I love all the little small-man fights.
I think you are extremely overstating the time, though.

>>146798004
Yeah, 20 years is 240 weeks, or 1680 days
Who plays that much in one game? And 20 years isn't even really that much time, unless you're already old - like, all the current kings are 50s+ and the game wants a generation swap some time in. But it wouldn't surprise me to start a PC that's like, 18-22 years old.
It also sounds like like it'll be fairly easy to mod, same as the aging in Warband.

>>146798371
War score, Ive done 232 damage and theyve done 12.

>>146798371
My longest game is with Floris Evolved and its over 1000 days, with the tons of shit they've added and improved upon in Bannerlord, I can easily see myself playing 1500+ days

Anyone else playing Perisno? I remember reading something about a repeating crossbow in the mod but I haven't seen one yet. Is it a legendary item or sold from a special merchant?

>>146798895
Some guy played Pendor where he played as 3 different factions who took over half the world, then made his own. Im pretty sure he was at 2150 something when He was on his 5th town.

>>146799012
Go back to the very start, its one of your dads heirlooms. Havent played long enough to knw if its elsewhere, its not a finished mod. Half the time my cav loads without heads.

>>146799031
I actually have 2 Floris Evolved games with 1000+ hours, the second one started with me becoming a T7 horse archer in the Khan's army, that alone took more than a year ingame.

>>146799257
I should play a merc some game, but its too annoying to wait in between battles.

>>146799257
Yeah, I bet. Those exp costs scale hilariously high.

Also did you really mean 1000 hours there. Surely you meant days? I mean...please.

>>146799428
Days, yes, hours would be a bit too much.

>>146795774
this

>>146799428
>not playing the whole game as a merc in the khans army as you rape and pillage the soft westerners. Leaving it idleing in-between.

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>trying to conquer world as nords
>help Ragnar defeat armies
>fight armies for a long time
>ragnar won't take any castles
>just stands around the castle like he's sieging it, then leaves after a few days
>Rhodoks armies go back up to 15
>try to take castle's myself but they're too big
>ragnar asks me to follow him
>follow him as he sits and waits in front of castles doing nothing for days on end
>think maybe I have to defeat all the armies in order to win
>destroy all the Rhodok armies myself again
>nord armies just run away as I get chased
>ragnar still doesn't seem to take castles
>300 days have past with no progress
>have pretty much all huscarls at this point
>finally Ragnar asks me to join him in siege with his army of 200
>looks like he's attacking
>click join him in assault
>it's only my men for some reason
>get destroyed by 80 billion sharpshooters
>ragnar doesn't help at all

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He doesn't have any men, does he? He's going to expect me to do all the work in taking over, right?

>>146799638
>try to take castles myself
>too big
Anything less then 400 is within nord range.

>>146799162
>start over

Eeehhh I'll just use a bow

>>146799919
I always start with the 9 power draw build, then go int cha. Archery might not be as good in that game as pendor but you can 2 shot alot of stuff. Hackers though man... I shoot some of them with a full quiver and they still keep going, the fuck is wrong with hackers.

>>146799738
Probably, I hated VC too much to do anything other than the story mode.

>>146800089
Have to wipe them off the map first, then you don't have to deal with them anymore

>trying to conquer world for nords
>fuckton of lords defect to the vaegirs for some reason
>vaegirs are basically on the same level as nords(vassals and lands), and their castles are hard to take because of the faggot archers
>khergit horsefaggots are almost extinct but the war doesn't last long enough to conquer them
>rhodoks and muslims are untouched for now
>swadians got exterminated long ago

fucking vaegirs

>>146800701
>having trouble with the weakest non-meme faction
lol

>>146800701
>int build
>raise up 100 odd vets
>take anything under 300
Once your on the wall they cant beat you, so just back in 4 shield in your inventory and get up there first. Draw them away so you get a beach head. Doesnt matter if you die.

>>146800701
How the fuck can anyone struggle against vaegirs

>>146800824
which are the meme factions

>>146800824
>>146800893
sieges are their only strong point guys, but struggling against them as nords is still a bit bad.

>>146800893
Memes aside, their archers really do dish out DPS like no one's business.
>>146800990
Sarranids (only decent troop is Mamluke) and Khergits (loving every laugh)

>>146801060
Dps doesnt matter if their alpha is shit, hes playing nords for fucks sake

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Is Blood & Gold: Caribbean any good? Just started playing singleplayer on Viking Conquest and I'm digging it quite a bit.

m-meme invasion anyone?

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>>146801486
It's pretty good.

>>146801486
what the hell is this image

it's aight. It has a few annoyances (like being sold into slavery and having everything stripped from you if you lose any fight ever), but it has some neat things like piracy and traits and raiding towns.
If you like the setting & warband, it's worth a try if you can get it.

>>146801768
>>146801829

I've always been into pirate I was just worried that it had such a mixed set of reviews on Steam.

That image is just a spreadsheet I made in 10 minutes to pick a random session of M&B when I finish or get bored of a campaign I'm in the middle of.

>>146799912
Wow I just followed your advice and attacked a castle of 200 and lost all my men. Thanks asshole

So am I supposed to take over the entire continent by myself or is this game just an unbalanced glitchy piece of shit?

>>146802410
What did you have, trained footmen? Ive never had an issue, get yourself a set of vets, 100 will do if you dont have leadership. I took my first castle of 315 with a mere 98 vets and a handful of lesser infantry.

get gud

>>146802410
>i fucked up and died
>it's your fault
wew

Wow guys my swarm of peasants got mowed down wtf i hate trump now

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LOOK THEY'RE ATTACKING MY CASTLE AND THEY'RE NO HELP AT ALL

I HAVE PLUS 100 AND I'M GRACIOUS WITH THE KING

I HAVE FOUGHT THIS WAR ENTIRELY BY MYSELF WHILE YOU PATROL AROUND AND DO NOTHING. THIS IS NOT HOW WARS WORK

THIS GAME IS BALLS GRAHRHRAHRHRHRHRHRHRHRHRHH

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>>146802167
It's pretty fun and I'd recommend it since it is on sale. There are problems, so be prepared for those.

>>146802637
I had 32 huscarls and 50 lesser stuff

>>146802837
why the fuck are you playing original M&B

>>146802878

What sort of problems. Anything truly game breaking? Most I can find is that the game doesn't run the best.

>>146803041
You cannot decide on how many troops appear on the battlefield, so the game does get laggy because sometimes it decides that you can handle 600 troops no problem.

The land battle command system is bad. I do like pre-deployment so that I can set my cav to the side, but they provided "Warband commands" which don't really work (hold position makes them hold wherever they are, not where you're at). Plus the AI doesn't get to pre-deploy, so it can make fighing too easy.

Boarding fights can be fun, but ship combat is mostly cheesing with circling and grape shot (there is no point in using anything besides grape shot).

Sea sieges are great, but like with pre-deployment, it seems only the player can do a sea siege. The AI will only do land sieges.

Being a merchant is a viable path, but it is very easy to make money in this game. You can make your first million before one game year.

There are other things, but I can't recall them right now.

>>146802837
You have to remember, the Ai is shit, everything is on your shoulders. If you dont hunt down the armies before hand this is what happens.

>>146802739
I guess your a cruz missile now. or maybe a Hillary Shillary

Why is there no decent Roman era mods?

>>146802991
I dont know what to tell you, that should have been more then enough. refer to the blacked out part of the previous message for help.

>>146802837
Oh it's the 800x600 original M&B memeposter
are you also the memer who tried warband and then said it was too SJW-y and shit for you, so went back to classic?

>>146803814
Just play warwolf in twisted times ;^)

>>146803814
Bellum Imperii and Rome at War could potentially be finished before Bannerlord since both are still being developed.

>try PoP
>seems like an alright mod
>except that fucking voice acting
I can't even play it with that shit

>>146806018
>using sound
You deserve it, listen to Jim instead.

>>146803814
Because Romans depended on formations and Warband's formation system sucks balls

>>146806426
>native formations
completely irrelevant

>>146806472
>implying the system that any mod uses isn't still too terrible to use for Romans

Wait for Bannerlord

>>146806660
they work fine
not to mention
>open module.ini
>set use_advanced_formation to 1
>suddenly proper formations

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Currently building a list of singleplayer and multiplayer mods to check out. I'm looking for mods that that have decent amount of content that shakes up the formula somewhat.

Any favorites?

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>>146790142

>>146807041
1429 : la Guerre de Cent Ans

I don't understand this big empire xbow meme.
Y'all get lusty over obvious overcompensation, or what

>>146807573
BIG
MEATY
CLAWS

>>146807657
Doesn't have even close to the same ring to it as that, to be honest.
Empire isn't even an adjective.

>>146807573
>>146807573
>Y'all get lusty over obvious overcompensation, or what
I chose the name as nod to the siege crossbow and how crossbowmen are broken in Warband.
And thus far they're the only faction to have high tier crossbows so you can bet your ass I'm gonna spam them once BL comes out.

is phantasy calradia still really unbalanced?

>>146808549
Everyone in that picture is a faggot

>>146808549
>and u have to actually read
I will remember and cherish that sentence during my whole life. knowing that I will never be that fucking stupid.
Plus who reads the text after the first 200 hours ?

>>146808979
It still lacks diplo and other basics, so it's still shit

>>146809087
>not the first 2 hours
I think I just skipped it all, I dont even know why Im on that god forsaken peninsula. Or why they are all fighting. From a guess the old king died and he left no heir. So they all split. hundred years later here we are with 5 kingdoms instead of the duchies.

>>146807773
It just is.

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>>146809704

why does Sarleon start the game hostile towards you in PooP?

>>146810201
Depends on the choices you made in character creation. I think the father was a knight one makes them mad

faggot mod

>>146810742
that's why we took out Grindr

>>146810826
But did ye take out the buttpirates?

Truly, this is the greatest mod of all time.

http://www.nexusmods.com/mbwarband/mods/6097/?

>playing tournament
>unhorse the enemy lancer
>charge at him full tilt
>he chambers my couched lance (apparently the AI can do this in singleplayer?)
>keep charging at him, he chamber blocks my couched lance every single time
>eventually he just dies from charge damage
I just learned that you can chamber block a couched lance in singleplayer (but not multiplayer)
the multiplayer combat system and singleplayer combat system aren't sync'd with each other and are separate

>>146810468
>I think the father was a knight one makes them mad
That must be it. I thought they were the generic knight faction, it's strange that would make them hostile.

EXTERMINATE ALL GAYS

>>146812149
No! They are the new monarchy in our society! They shall be lifted up as the pinnacle of what you can be!

-common filth

which faction in VC is the comfy faction?

blue looks pretty comfy in its little corner. wessex looks extreemly uncomfy being the color of swadia as well as being too huge to start with. But mierce might be ok

I find prodocks to be the most comfy in native, if it helps, followed by vaegirs since they have useless units and nobody likes them.

>>146812708
friese

>>146812708
Friese, Dankmark, Northvegr

>>146812812
>>146812852
who has the best cavalry for hammering the back of the enemy as they engage your shield wall?

>>146812097
From what I know of PooP lore, Sarleon outlawed all knight orders that weren't theirs, so all other knights are evil. Because fuck chivalry I guess

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Japanese fan art is always great

>>146813367
merc cav, best faction cav is irish i think since they actually get a cav unit that isn't a skirmisher

>>146813367
>VC
>Cavalry

Might as well ride one of the dogs around m8

>>146813367
>VC
>Cavalry
I am of bad news.
Mercenary Frank horsemen. Don't even bother with any other

>>146813510
Ive been solo grinding with my heavy horse and a long war spear just fine

Its been a long time since ive played non horse archer cavalry in mount and blade, but cant i just assign a unit of spear wielding cavalry to follow me around and make passes at an infantry block and all the following cavalry will just stay on my tail and do a passing stab as they go by as well?

I remember it working like that in native, it think.

Basicaly i want a mainly shield wall army, but a good block of cavalry who will not be stupid and will do the same kind of hit and run side-swiping that i do.

Which is actually realistic cavalry tactics, i dont know why npcs always just head on run into a block of infantry, come to a stop, and get swarmed, real world cavalry would swoop in, throw some javalins or something, and get out.

>not using byzantine cataphracts

>>146813663
Is that in regular VC or in Upstab's VC?

>>146813772
It'll work less well because the stats in VC are buffed massively for infantry and reduced for cavalry, but it is still possible. The main problem will be making sure your cavalry escape properly since Warband AI in that regard doesn't swerve very well away from the mobs of infantry. I think that may be partially to do with how they do "follow me" and "stand ground" commands.

>>146814008
Pretty sure they're renamed in Upstab VC.
They're in regular VC tho. And the only mercenary cavalry

>>146813663
I love those, the only other good ones are the skirmishers if you keep microing them with their javies. Take them around the back of the infantry fight and let them throw, like mounted archers if the game had any, with better damage.

>tfw dysentary in WFAS

Why do they add these lame features

>it doesnt let you play VC story mode with realistic saving mode

i feel dirty

>>146814530
The finn archers are pretty good. High power draw for low upkeep. They have shit bows though IIRC

>>146815404
they get the only P damage bows in the game

I really don't get the VC hate, this is pretty great so far

>>146816327
VC hate is from a year ago when they released far too early

>>146815591
Elite longbows and featured longbows are both cutting though ?
And I remembered wrong, they do indeed have the most powerful bows in the game

>>146816481
they get composite bows in the submod version that do pierce

>>146816327
>>146816418
>infantry only: the mod
It's fucking dogshit.

>>146816734
>in the submod version
that explains it.

>>146814675
Great leaders of men pooped themselves to death, now you can too!

>>146816774

t. swadian horse cocksucker

>>146816774
Shoo, Sanjar Khan

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>>146816774
>he thinks cavalry adds anything to Warband

>>146816774
>waah different settings

>>146816854
>>146816920
>>146816934
>>146816987
Shut the FUCK up, archery was also nerfed for some reason.

>>146798021
>DaggerXL
Then it's never going to finish. The DaggerXL guy is slow as fuck.

>>146817071
>for some reason

Maybe because bows were dogshit back then, idiot

>>146817071
>archery was also nerfed for some reason.
because almost everybody is in light armor

>>146817157
>>146817161
you don't seem to understand
it's a video game
you don't need to make everything shit for historical accuracy
"go infantry or go home" is boring, and fuck you for pretending otherwise

but cavalry is just infantry that gets to the fight quicker in based M&B.

archers are still more or less present

>>146817716
>"go infantry or go home"
t. F1,F3 Cavalry pro

>>146817138
Probably lost motivation the moment the other guy released Daggerfall in Unity.

>>146817817
>but cavalry is just infantry that gets to the fight quicker
and spam-stun infantry and archers*

>>146817716
>yeah okay i get the mod is uh trying to be based on a certain time period in a certain location, but uh, just ignore all that and make it just like native kthnx

Might as well add guns too, since its just a videogame haha xD

>>146817716
>you don't need to make everything shit for historical accuracy
we don't but its a nice change having to rely on something else than cav spam or crossbows/archer spam

>>146817157
>bows were dogshit back then
This is false. Generic english longbows are basically one of the most simple kinds of bow there are to make, you just need the right kind of tree, thats it. They are as low tech as it gets.

And while longbows suffer some from katana syndrome, they are still as powerful as bows got, ever. They just had the disadvantages of being fuckhuge and not usable on horses

>>146817071
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE

No really the meta for warfare for a long time after the western roman empire fell was to fight as the romans had, it wasn't until horses had been bred to be big enough to wreck infantry formations that archery became important

>>146817716
>you don't need to make everything shit for historical accuracy
it's for balance you retard
they changed bows to cut because bows doing p in VC would destroy heavy infantry

>>146818059
meanwhile in the east people fought on tiny horses, even heavy cavalry used mares in one instance during a battle the arab cavalry mares were in heat and the crusader chargers literally started fucking them on the battlefield and the arabs had to walk home:^)

>>146818039
Doesn't matter, Anglo-Saxons didnt give much a shit about archery back then

>>146818292
Got a link? That sounds too surreal

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HOW TO WIN AT VC
>kill thieves
>save up for horse
>buy horse
>hunt vikings
>get 10k per pack
>start getting people
Youll then have huge amounts of money, renown, and will be kitted out.

>>146795632
its actually a game called History: Great Battles Medieval
http://www.slitherine.com/gbm_overview

>>146818548
>those grafx

Jesus christ

>>146818548
>windows
>those graphics
>using stamina

>>146818039
>they are still as powerful as bows got, ever.
if you mean european bows, sure.

>>146818548
The fuck is this zoom, betcher

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local finnish mercenaries have been employed to the service of wales

>>146818582
>>146818619
>>146818639
Right, im not sure if you were here for my lecture on Sea Raiders, but imagine them all with spears, and 1 deviation means your horse is dead, which means your dead. Literally 1 fuck up near a pack.

And its solo hunting vikings. A pack of 17.

>>146818059
More like changes in saddle design and the inventions of stirrups and spurs wich allowed for greater stability and horse control desu

>>146818549
Interesting. Is it any good?

>>146818650
be careful, Finns are infected with lethal levels of Autism

>>146818627
what kind of draw weights did composite bows get up to anyway

>>146818751
i've never played the game but here's a review on it if you want to check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8YFlgu0eec

>>146818521
Its in terry jones crusades documentary

>>146818548
>have an elite viking one shot you and your horse in one swing
>and also break your shield

I'm playing Prophesy of Pendor right now and I don't really get what I'm supposed to do at this point. I've made my own kingdom of 3 castles and given two of them to my vassals. I managed to survive the initial hostility by kiting the huge random spawn armies around my kingdom and scaring off anyone trying to attack me (which was pretty much everyone despite my right to rule being in the 70s).

So, things are going okay I guess. I'm level 31, my army size is around 250, but I feel like I can't really progress. Javiksholm and Avendor are nearby and I'd like to take them over, but the Fiersdvain literally just have Javiksholm left to their kingdom so they all pop in to fuck me up. Avendor is a Sarleon city right now with about 900 defenders, and Sarleon is doing pretty well so I can't see myself holding the city very long. Plus, it's a siege tower attack, so I'll take some very significant losses.

So what do I do right now? Just keep trying to beef up my army? How can I keep my lords from running off and getting obliterated by the roaming death-balls of mystmountain and heretic armies?

>>146819007
I hate it, once a javie hit me for 41 damage. It was when I was testing the game and had the setting at 1/4. I hadnt even gotten to the battle yet...

>>146818627
what does that even mean.

They made them as strong as it was humanly possible to draw for someone who practices doing that their entire lives and the stress causes their skeletons to permanently warp such that we can identify the archers from mass graves due to how twisted their spines are, you cant make a stronger bow than that.

More elaborate materials and construction methods allowed bows to be smaller and more compact, but not more powerful.

>>146819282
also i should mention that a longbow is a composite bow of a kind, because the special tree its made out of. the bow stave is cut from the tree such that you have a natural composite material made up of the trees inner wood and outer wood.

its not as good as elaborate multi layer constructions using horn and all sorts of other exotic materials, but its not like any old generic self bow some hunter or tribesman would have used either

>>146818893
No idea but they apparently require (according to someone I know who got to use a real mongolian bow and also owns an english longbow) to draw for pretty much the same results. So I guess if you made a composite bow with the same draw weight as a longbow you'd get higher arrow velocity on the whole.

>>146819173
You should have stayed with a kingdom until you hit 3k renown. How are you supposed to drag around armies of 600 by yourself when your a level 31 nobody. Should have made your own order, then emptied your castle, left your kingdom and retaken it, with your uber powerful order. The kill anyone who comes up with your doom maces. Thats right doom maces, a noldor spirit horse with a doom mace makes one of the best cav in the game even if you dont have shields or armor, great for noldor hunting. As long as your willing to grind that noldor relation back down to the negatives.

>>146819282
he's probably referring to the fact european bows were made out of a single piece of wood, unlike eastern composite bows
>More elaborate materials and construction methods allowed bows to be smaller and more compact, but not more powerful.
more powerful for their size, yes
when composite bows impacted western europe the europeans started using composite methods in crossbows

>>146819282
>More elaborate materials
Horn and leather ?

>>146819536
My renown is like 2500 right now and I decided to just be lazy and go with the Ebony Knights. I think I've leveled them up two or three times, and they kick some serious fucking ass, it's just hard to bat away invaders while trying to train up a swarm of knights. A while back I had like 50 of these guys and I stomped the shit out of everyone who came at me, but after being at war with literally everyone but the D'shar for a couple of months my troop counts are wayyy down.

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>>146819462
There's different styles
I've got a book on such things, pic related
>>146819646
Horn and sinew usually

>>146819646
thats more elaborate than a piece of wood, considering weve been making simple self bows out of wood for thousands of years for hunting

horn and leather is like high tech fiberglass composite by comparison

>>146819542
longbows were still popular due to being cheaper to make.

Even when crossbows started being made with metal staves there were still longbows being produced because they are great for arming your peasants.

The point is a longbow is just as powerful, it just has to be longer to get that power out of the material its made from, so there is no reason to say that a longbow should do less damage than any other bow of the same draw weight, and longbows already max out the limits of the human body so you cant make a 'stronger bow'

>>146813381
I see, this onion has many layers.