/dsg/ - Souls General

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nth for the original "drake sword"

I'm about to start Bloodborne friends, anything I should know before getting my playthrough underway?

>>146762554
Wrong general, friendo

>>146762554
magic is good.

>>146762647
see>>146762202

Guys, I have a question:

I've been playing a pirate version of DS for a while. I'll buy the game next week.

My saves are going to work on the original version?

>>146762672
see >>146628593

>>146762782
see>>146762202

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noticed this after i booted the magic grill invader off the cliff
what do you think it is? seems to match my position since no matter where i stand i can never get a shot at a different angle

>>146762915
for fuck sake stop.

>>146762986
I don't think she drops anything.

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i got stuck! i couldn't go further into the room for some reason
is it because my head is too big?

>>146762554
Dodge a lot
Vit is good
Saw cleaver can carry you through the game
LHB is overrated

>>146762986
It's a lightning artifact.
Every map has one, but they aren't visible because textures block your view. It's only visible in Untended Graves because they literally de-load every texture, giving you a clear view to the bottom of the map.

>>146762997
>start shitposting
>tell counter-shitposters to stop
You first, friend.

>>146763079
i know that, it looks nothing like an item drop

>>146763206
interesting to know

>>146763258
wan't even him.

>>146762202
Starting a new playthrough as a caster in DaS3.

What are some key spells and items I should be looking out for early. I only remember getting Orbit like nearly halfway into the game in my first playthrough.

>>146763375
>Orbit
What

>>146763375
>Orbit
u wot m8

Great Heavy Soul Arrow will be your main offensive spell for PvE.

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>>146763375
>Orbit

>>146763375
Sage Ring in Crucifixion woods

What kind of caster? Sorcery?
If you decide to not start as sorcerer; the young dragon ring can be gotten from Orbeck; collect scrolls as fast as you can and buy GSA, GFD, and Flashsword from him

>>146763375
Hidden Body makes going through the ares very easy, especially if you wear Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring as well
this combination even works on some bosses too

>Orbit
do you mean Orbeck?

>>146763081
Happened to me once, I just rolled outside.

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>>146762986
It's Cosmos.

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>>146763375
>Orbit
m8 are you high

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>>146763748

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Why did the only god I liked die being devoured alive?

>Orbit

DLC sorcery. Casting it causes 2 balls of magic to spin around your body, that hit anyone that gets too close. Effectively gives you free trades with meleers.

>>146763375
Heretic Staff before encountering Orbeck and CS. You can use Raw ASS as close range weapon.

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Any way to make this better?
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49023

>>146763510
>>146763541
>>146763554
>>146763667

The guy from vinheim that was always talking about going to school with him or something. Idk I was a pure melee on my first character so i didn't read any of his faggot books or anything

>>146763375
Great Heavy Soul Arrow is basically your bread and butter ranged damage spell, but its slow as shot and will miss moving enemies so it can be a pain in the ass to use (especially against fast enemies with bad hitboxes and arbitrary iframes like thralls or dogs)

Farron Flashsword isn't very useful since it's essentially just a straightsword that costs FP to swing and does less damage, but it can stunlock the big skeletons in Carthus. Sometimes it will break them apart in 1 hit, too.

Soul Greatsword is solid because of its huge range. It's basically the only spell that can hit multiple enemies at once early on and does solid damage.

Avoid Farron Dart and similar shit for the most part. They do no damage until you have endgame spellbuff and aren't efficient damage/FP-wise so they're basically pvp-only.

You're essentially stuck with the super basic spells until lategame because all of the advanced scrolls are locked away in the 2nd half of the game. Be sure to do Irithyll Dungeon and Profaned Capital before Aldrich, as you'll unlock Logan's Scroll (homing soulmass and soul spear), the Court Sorcerer's Staff (strongest casting tool in the game) and Karla's dark spells.

Also, be sure to pick up the Izalith Pyromancy Tome because you can use Chaos Fireball without any requirements and it will deal more damage to Aldrich than any of your other spells. He's weak to fire but very resistant to sorcery and dark.

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Dark spells being mostly zoning spells and being castable (and scaling) with any spell tool, making them a useful addition to all all 3 spell types.
They'd also still fill the pve use they have right now of allowing a different damage type to be done for especially resistant bosses to whatever spell type you're going with.

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Dark CCS is pretty neat, also what the fuck was up with his abyssmal damage?

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How can I improve this build? (Hornet is for invasions)

>>146764291
swap gotthards with carthus curved
wear a hat that doesn't obscure vertical vision

>>146765020
>99
why

>>146764291
go 125

how do you make Creighton spawn?
i killed him with Sirris and talked to her, i'm embered and Pontiff is alive, but he still doesn't appear

>>146764847
Barely any time is dark useful. Dancer is the only relevant enemy weak to it.
Dark is a PvP tool only.

>>146765020
Start by removing Prisoner's Chain and Havel's Ring, learn to swap between your two weapons directly from your inventory so you don't have to waste a gorillion points and a ring slot for it.

>>146765020
>buckler
huge sign that you're a bitch
you're going to get hornet backstabbed
don't

>>146764291
Hollow is a waste. It actually does less damage than 40/40 refined on most weapons.

Switching to refined gives you more damage on Estoc and Gotthards and more Vig/End, with only a 3-4 point loss in WP damage.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49029

>>146764984
Are you on pc? I fought someone with a really similar fashion a while ago

>>146764041
Degenerate. I'm assuming you like traps.

>>146765169
Yeah, I am. Does the name Umbra ring any bell?

>>146765063
sl99 so that i don't get matched with 120s if i decide to place my red sign and i already have a sl125 build

>>146764847
The DLC adding a Black Witch's Staff is pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point, considering the non-dark casting types already got their crystal chime.

Aside from the lack of actual spell variety, a dark-focused build is basically impossible because you have to constantly juggle 3 casting tools to use all your spell options. Each casting tool literally only has 2-3 non-synergizing offensive spells each, which is just silly.

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Red pill me on the Drang Hammers dsg. I've been having moderate success (only against retards who can't space desu) but I want to know if anyone else has experience with these things and has any tips on how to use them effectively.

>>146765272
99 still gets matched with 120, friend.

>>146765210
Oh yeah, I was the guy with Alva Helm and Thorn armor and Profaned UGS iirc

>>146765020
>prisoners chain
your better off having 27 vig it's not worth the huge extra damage

>>146765037
Carthus Curved has no combo with lefstoc.
https://youtu.be/zQp-pLEuJok?t=197

>>146765064
Why not 142?

>>146765146
Jesus Christ.

>>146765020
>FUGS
Worthless
Use BKUGS
>prisoner's chain
Do not wear this above SL50, it makes you take 1000 damage from carthus curved sword r1 combo
Use chloranthy
>buckler
Swap with a blessed elkhorn shield, recovery time is too long and it's a sign that you're going to spam parries
>lothric knight sword
No, it's not worth it if you're not 40/40, the damage is just shit, use a heavy broadsword or dark sword instead

>>146765102
I got way better bang for my FP with dark fireball over cgfb on my pyro build on a considerable amount of bosses.

Vordt, Old Demon King, Yhorm (if you aren't using Storm Ruler) and Soul of Cinder all come to mind.
I think it was also more useful against NK's drake and still did pretty well against NK himself.

>>146765113
but if i remove them then how am i going to fast roll? lotrhic knight sword isn't that heavy and i could only save 3 or 4 points

>>146765317
WA has hyperarmor.
Use a +9 simple offhand with the farron ring and basically spam the WA. Running and rolling L1s are alright because they're kinda fast but they do shit damage and are easy as piss to parry

Standing L1s and standing R1 are fucking worthless. Slower than Greatswords with less damage and no hyperarmor. You can't even punish spacing errors reliably with them because they're so fucking slow.

WA is both faster than the R1, higher damage than L1s, unparryable and covered by HA. It's literally the move that makes the weapon usable. If you run out of FP, you lose the fight.

>>146765393
so? you're 27 STR, why wouldn't you be two-handing
you don't get two-hand STR scaling bonus with paired weapons, anyway

css 2hr1 2hr1 beats l1 r1 damage anyway
lefstoc is overrated

>>146765146
you're wrong lad
mugenmonkey doesn't display +5 luck from +10 hollow weapons

a 40/40 washing pole 2h has 433 AR
a 27/40/30(+10) washing pole 2h has 450 AR

>>146765376
>27 vig
Anon please, I would still get killed in 2 hits, at least with prisoner chain I have more vit and endurance

>>146765317
try with weapon art shield (preferably bks)

>>146765619
nig you asked how to improve it then straight up rejected my advice

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>>146765445
Here you go, shaved 9 levels off of that worthless VIT stat while still maining your build.

>>146765580
also a 27/40 refined washing pole 2h has 413 AR

>>146765619
15% more damage taken from every attack isn't worth being able to swing 0.3 more times

>>146765406
I like FUGS more, if i wanted more damage i can simply use Yhorm's, I need prisoner's chain to fast roll and I do have a dark sword, lothric knight is only for guarbreaking really (I forget broadsword even exists).

Also why specifically round elkhorn?

>>146765780
Stylish looks and good stats for a light small shield, acquirable early.

Always liked the looks of Benhart's gear.

>>146765752
Alright... I might just replace life ring +3 for chloranthy +2

>>146765357
Oh yeah, I remember those ripostes. Wanna have another go?

>>146766085
I turned off the game a while ago, perhaps you can add me so we can fight some other time? I will place my sign at the high wall so that you can see my profile and add me.

Pass is dsg

>>146766232
Sure thing, I'm waiting

>>146765580
I will mostly be spamming running R1s, right, but when I need to play reactive, I will be one handing. I guess CSS is just ridiculous but I want to try this combo shit. It does look more suited for a 40/40 build, I guess.

Does ds3 take part in the same universe as ds1? I'd it before or after? Ive just started ds3 and I have no idea whats going on desu

>>146764134
So like Darkstorm in DS2?

>>146767181
The games are likely in chronological order but it's not like it matters much.

Is CSS good for PvE?

>>146765182
You are right

HUMAN DO NOT PRODUCE LIGHT

>>146767181
it takes place in the last era of the same world as in ds1
ds2 happened in bumblefuck nowhere and is irrelevant

>>146767479
If you think the damage output to FP ratio is worth it then sure, but many believe it's incredibly inefficient.

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>need vertebrae shackles

>invade in Anor Londo
>ganksquads galore
>fight Club faggotry
>11 shackles in 5 hours

>invade in Smouldering Lake
>everyone is solo and, if they have a phantom, it's always Tsurig
>enemies deal ridiculous damage
>6 shackles in 30 minutes

>>146767479
No, it's not. Even a fucking sunlight spear is more useful thanks to melee distance damage bonus.

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>>146767761
>reds invading smouldering lake when i'm going on another ng cycle with my sl85 estoc turtle

>>146767632
>>146767789
Then I'll leave it just for PvP. Thanks fampais

Can someone explain to me how miracle casting works in this game? What's the difference between chimes and talismans?

>>146767942
I'm turtling with a rapier too :^)

>>146767995
WA, primarily. Talismans are better for offensive ones due to free hyperarmor and chimes are largely useless.

>>146767995

chimes are basically good for weapon buffs only

you use the talisman weapon art to cast while having armor meaning your shit wont be interrupted

>>146767995
Talismans are offensive-oriented tools.
Chimes have the most fp efficient healing ability in the game as a WA.

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>open chest
>see this
what do?

>>146768079
>>146768135
>>146768158
So they're basically the same thing when it comes to casting miracles? You don't need different ones for different miracles like in DS2, right?

>>146767528
*equips flame butterfly*

>>146768207
Take new staff.
Close lid on the rest of the junk.

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HOLY SHIT
i can't find the words to convey what kind of retarderd clusterfuck that was
this run is the dumbest shit ever, i didn't even think i could make it that far
it's really fun though

also, can anyone help me?
>>146765070

>>146768252
>You don't need different ones for different miracles like in DS2, right?
what

>>146768207
back to nasushit threads with you

>>146768301
I'm talking about hexes, which seem to be split between the different magic types in this game. For some you needed a chime and for others a staff.

Should I get Demon's Souls or DS2:SotFS on PS3?

Which one has more replay value?

>>146768382
There are no hexes. There's only dark sorceries, miracles and pyromancies

Have to go to 30 vit for my new build. Feels bad

>>146768412
Well ds2 is not the right choice

How useful is armour? Should I actually invest in good armour and using my titanite or should I just go for pure fashion souls? I literally haven't bothered with good armour because I always thought that it didn't do much and weapons are more important.

>>146768412
demon's souls of course, you can safely skip ds2

>>146768412
If you have someone to play ds2 go for it. It gave me more than 500 hours of gameplay and I didn't got bored

>>146768412
DaS2 is better and has more content, but DeS is cheaper and worth a go.

>>146768657
Weapons are more important, but armor can be extremely helpful. Upgraded Elite Knight is some of the best in DaS1 in terms of weight to total defense. If you can spare the titanite, it's totally worth it.

>>146768294
Did you go past Yorshka's church?

>>146767592
So if it takes place after ds1. Does that mean the plot continues after ds1 where the chosen undead doesn't relight the flame? Or does it take place after ds1 when he does relight it

Sorry just trying to get a feel for where the universe is right now

>>146768798
I hate listening to those metal plate sounds

>>146768690
>DaS2 is better
What the fuck, no. I just finished sotfs and it's lame. Every boss is shit. Every one. The fucking pursuer was the only fun thing about it and he's not really even a boss.

I hope you like square rooms with not a single thing in them.

>>146768921
nigga just play the fucking game, everything you're asking is directly answered

>>146768921
Time is convoluted and the lands are transitory
It literally doesn't matter and is never never specified long after ds1 it takes place.

>>146769036
i'm gonna fuck that

>>146768946
Well you don't have to use EK, silly. I'm just using it as an example. Use whatever you want, point is if you have excess titanite, it's better to use it and maybe take an extra hit than sit on it and not be able to take that hit.

>>146768961
Demon's has aged like dogshit on an Arizona sidewalk. 1-1, Tower of Latria, and Shrine of Storms are the only good levels.
>final boss is a defenseless blob
Wow

>>146769112
never specified how long*

>>146769174
>missing the entire point of the final boss
Aight

>>146769174
Final boss is false king, you shit head.

Game plays just fine for me. Ds2 never had to age to be shit, it just always was that way

>>146768893
what do you mean?
i lit the bonfire and went to the graveyard outside and waited near the big gravestone
does he not spawn if you light the bonfire or something?

>>146769262
YOU JUST DON'T GET IT

>>146769324
Except it plays objectively better than Demon's does. You just contradicted yourself.

>>146769174
Final boss in DS2 is just as bad. She doesn't even seem to know her own moves.

>>146769463
said blob being powerful would make no fucking sense thematically. it's just that simple

>>146769576
>objectively
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

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>>146769174
final encounter of des is perfect lore and atmosphere wise
both final bosses in ds2 are shit gameplay, lore and atmosphere wise
not to mention that real final boss in des fucking destroys them in all aspects

Thinking of making a Pontiff CS build. Can the WA be parried?

>>146769137

But there are two.

>>146769718
I know exactly what it means. DaS2 is better, in terms of core gameplay, in every single way than DeS. This is literally, absolutely, undebatable and I'd *love* to see you try.

>>146769789
i'll fuck em all buddy

>>146769789
one body, nerdlord

>>146769736
>go inside tree
>it's a blob crocodile thing
>dies in four hits
I was 18 when DeS came out and even then I thought the boss was ass. I played through it again last year, then 25, and still felt the same way.

>>146769928
Yes, that is the point.

>>146769736
You probably defended the Yu Yevon fight too, didn't you?

>>146769739
No. All spin WA are unparryable except Wolf Sword

>>146770029
Old Wolf CS or Wolf Knight GS?

>>146768893
never mind, got him
don't know what was wrong though

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Was this a headshot?

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>>146769982
>"he's supposed to be a shitty, unmemorable pushover!"

>"WTF why is Bed of Chaos such a shitty boss!"

>>146770092
Wolf Knight GS. The one that does Artorias flips.

>>146769812
inb4 that one dude posts the shitty copypasta

>>146770145
Bed of Chaos is bad because platforming in Dark Souls is shit. Not only do you have to make several jumps while getting blasted in the pooper or knocked around, but any mistake is instant death followed by a long trek back through lava.
It's not meant to be intentionally anticlimactic.

>>146769812
If someone disagrees with you then you are literally wrong. The developers have done what they feel makes a better game and made some changes, yes, But "Objectively" means something quantifiable. 3 is objectively more than 2 and you're saying that the color orange is better than the color yellow.

If someone FEELS deeply in their FEELERINOS that Demon's is better because they liked the word "Nexus" then it's only "better" because that's your opinion.

I'm not sure how so many kids keep getting out of school without learning what the word opinion means.

>>146770145
are you really this embarrassingly oblivious to thematic relevance or nah

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>tfw Aldrich and I fell together on NG+7

And fuck those arrows for all eternity

>>146770136
just a thrust damage counter

>>146768252
Chimes have a higher spell buff usually, so they're better for buffs since they scale off spell buff

>>146770485
>NG+7
>still using dark sword

do you hate fun with a passion?

>>146770136
>having dented tinfoil armor
IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK GOOD REEEE

>still no news on DaSIII DLC
>it was rumored to be coming in August

I hope they don't fucking delay it.

>>146770631
i saw somewhere that it was moved back to september. don't have the source though, so take it with a grain of salt. i'm fully expecting a delay, in any case

>>146770136
semi-related question
How good does my computer have to be to run DS3 with those graphics and that framerate?

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>>146770578

fuck me anon I knew I forgot to change something before the boss

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>>146770145

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>>146770145
Bed of Chaos being an easy fight isn't the problem, to me anyway.

It's that on a first playthrough, it's a trial-and-error fight. I realize that you could probably make an argument for learning enemy movesets being that way in general, but shitty platforming elements just make it frustrating.
And Sen's is my favorite area in DaS so it's not even that I think all ways to fall to your death are terrible.

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any good weapons for faith/dex?

So I've swapped out my Life Ring +3 for a Lloyd's Shield Ring until I take damage and swap to Sun Princess Ring when I'm not at full health and it has been working out pretty damn good for me. Does anyone else use this?

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I want to do SL120 PvP in DaS3. What can I use to fuck with people?

I have no shame, I just want to win or at least fuck people (gank squads) up as much as possible. I'm highly considering bloodring + leo + cloranthy with 2H Astora GS. I considered Gotthards too but I figure AGS does a lot more damage and is unparriable.

Just fucking roll around forever and occasionally rolling R1. Full kirk armor.

Any other suggestions are welcome, trying to think of the most broken shit to use besides the obvious (sellsword DMB is overused and I have no faith at all in parrying at this high of a level especially because if you fuck up you get fucked up). I was thinking of maybe trying 2kat even though I'm a quality build, spam the shit out of the L2 L1 L1 combo.

>Invade as a madman @ SL60
>"Kill the host or 3 phantoms"
>Wait, 3?
>Host with 3 pass phantoms (probably SL120)
>Blue Sentinel/Darkmoon pops out
>Host with some lag
>Only invaded that ganksquad
I hate that kind of people

>>146771083
Swordspear (not even a faith weapon), Dragonslayer Spear.

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>>146762202
threadly reminder

>>146771086
Scott does.

>>146771165
thank you

>>146768412
DeS. Besides being a shit game, DaS2 runs like crap on the PS3.

>>146771279
my sincere pleasure

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>>146771165
>this dumb asshole thrives on negative attention
>post an image complaining about him

I have him and all replies to him filtered but your shitty post obviously still shows up.

>>146771259
Who's Scott?

>>146771086

The DaS3 menu navigation meta is disgusting.

>>146771383
it's really easy to punish those fuckers though. just get aggressive when they pull back to fiddle their menus. it's usually obvious when they're attempting to mess with their equipment

>>146771383
I feel like the menus have gotten more complex in every game to discourage hardswapping, yet people still do it.
I definitely think that's why they've removed sorting your inventory entirely.

>>146771532
inb4 they add some kind of feature or item that prevents opening menus

>>146771161
What about the lothric knight greatsword?

>>146772081
It requires 24/16 and is better refined than any other infusion. I also don't consider it a Faith weapon since it has no faith scaling. Same with Wolnir's

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any of you guys want to help a luck mage kill the crocacats so i can join the aldrich faithful

PC PW: dsg and the bottom of the ladder

>>146772147
>profaned aldia's grave
spookin me senseless

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>>146771878

They did something like that in Bloodborne; instead of rings you had runes, and you could only change runes at a specific workbench in the Hunter's Dream, they couldn't be changed at all out in the field.

>>146772147
>profaned Aldia's Grave
>Sen Shrine
>Quelaag's Archives

Shame those are cut content it look interesting

>>146770724
>>146770724
>>146770724
>>146770724
>>146770724
please respond

>>146772147

Who's Sen?

>>146771532
You could always manually sort your inventory by using filler items to align rows.
Done properly, and no weapon or ring is ever a single directional input from the one it's being swapped from.

It's still kind of obnoxious, but it's kind of unavoidable when so many rings only offer context-specific benefits. You can't tell me that the devs put thew Lloyd's rings in the game without fully understanding they were effectively just swaprings.

>>146772239
on my way

>>146772306
>cut content
bruh those are randomly generated souls names that an artist decided to develop

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Ok so what do i do against aldrich as pure magic build ? I can't raw ASS because no faith

>>146772350
Gwyn's Firstborn Sen, Heir of Senlight.

>>146772367
ty

>>146772398
run nigga

>>146772307
Probably start by checking the "Recommended Requirements" on the store page, scrub.

>>146772359

Oh no, clearly you're supposed to only get the benefit until you get hit and then you just have a dead ring slot of course.

What's a fun build and or weapon
This game is getting so dry

>>146772350
the grumpy owner of a certain fortress

>>146772409
Oh fuck off, that's as dumb as "Gwynfaraam"

>>146772525
Witch's Locks is my weaponfu, play a pyro.

>>146772379
Oh, I thought those were from an artbook

>Morne's Great Hammer
>30 faith requirement
>AR doesn't scale with faith
>neither does the WA

What the fuck

>>146772525
TPGS.

>>146772747
>Vempirick.deviantart

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>>146772306
>cut content
>>146772350
The origin of the name Sen is not clear. Some say it was the architect who built the fortress, but others say that it was the name of a great kingdom ruined in a barbaric war.

>>146772793
Because fuck nice things and fuck you

>>146772793

did u rike it?

>>146772409
>Heir of Senlight

Had a light kek.

>>146772525
Gundyrs
I shit you not. Best weapon in the game.
No wasted move or combo move. All attacks are great 1H or 2H

Weapon art hits SO many people easily.
and if they have a parry tool just learn to free aim the art.

Any tips for beating NK with a sorcerer? Killing King of Storm is piss easy but NK it's a different thing. Should I Soul Arrow his ass or go for fast-casting spells like farron sword and dart?

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>>146772946
>light kek

>>146772398
Pyromancy

>>146772793
>neither does the WA

Really? That's dumb. I mean, it's obviously supposed to be the Bramd/Grant of this game, so I guess the faith requirement is just because?

>>146772307
You need a good GPU no matter what to get 60FPS.
At 1280x at minimum I get 60FPS less than half the time in the game on my GTX950.

>>146768207
Ally - exhaust all speech options, keep alive until I'm about to fight last boss, kill.
Enemy- kill

>>146770493
That can't be, my usual counter damage is 450 unbuffed. Blessed weapon with 15 faith adds like 40 AR, which is literally nothing.

>>146772398
pyromancy yeah.

Just get some chaos orbs. has no stat req.
probably for this exact reason/boss

>>146773252
Blessed weapon adds 7.5% phys damage, anon.

>>146773018
Hit him with soul arrows from far away. He'll mostly walk slowly towards you and not attack, but if he does just run away and shoot him some more.

>>146773270
Pyromancy kills everything!

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>Yhorm the Giant
>30ft tall badass with a 10ft long motherfucking MACHETE
>motherfucking Lord of Cinder and also a GIANT
>From makes him a gimmick fight

just fuck my shit up senpai

>>146773252
>Blessed weapon with 15 faith adds like 40 AR, which is literally nothing.
Do you not understand how the attack/defense relationship works? Or did you not know that BW increases physical attack? It stacks, it doesn't just add other damage type.

>>146772576
>Sen's fortress and Archdragon Peak share common architecture and snekmen guards
>Sen's Fortress is positioned as the stronghold guarding the entrance to Anor Londo, but has clearly long been abandoned by its original defenders and the gate it was guarding scuttled.
>filled with statues of Silver Knights, the dragonslaying warriors once lead by the dragonslaying Wargod
>guarded by a golem with a core made from an everlasting dragon, the eventual allies of the firstborn.
Sens' Fortress is pretty obviously supposed to be the stronghold of the firstborn, abandoned and repurposed after his betrayal and exile. That's why Archdragon peak has the same motif as Sen's Fortress

Fun fact, Sen is an archaic first-person pronoun. It's just a way of saying "I" or "myself," which makes Sen's Fortress just a play on words that essentially means "My Fortress."
It's common in japanese writing for nameless characters to identify themselves with 1st person pronouns as a cheeky way of avoiding a name. In effect, the first person pronoun is used as a name, or in substitute of one. Sen as the name for the nameless king is pretty obvious wordplay, as it's essentially like using "Nameless" as a name, it's ironic. Doubly so since Sen, sun, and son are all close to one another in spelling and pronunciation, in both english and japanese.

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>>146771157
>that feel when you invade some random asshole with 3 phantoms
>that feel when you hold your own for several minutes and make the host chug estus at least 5 times
>that feel when you finally succumb to R1 spam on all sides and die
>that feel when the host walks up to your corpse and points down.

>>146773520
You know you CAN fight him without using the storm cancer, right?

>>146773563
The webm shows what looks like the headshot animation.

>>146773520
He also has a face instead of a butthole

>>146770145
> mfw all these people complain about shit platforming
I just walked and rolled. When I had to jump down I looked and walked over the edge. What are you guys talking about.

>>146773179
I don't know if there's something wrong with my setup, but I always get a few drops every 50 or so steps on my 970. Pisses me off.

>>146773520
Hitting his head is the best gimmick fight in the game.

>>146773639
>You know you CAN fight him without using the storm cancer, right?
If I wanted to hit something for 30 minutes straight I'll be sure to play Killing Floor 2.

what is better, lightning infused dragonslayer axe or lightning blade buffed dragonslayer axe?
none of that tumblebuffing bullshit

>>146773445
He always spams charge attacks which he gets me everytime because I'm casting

How do you pronounce Smough?
Smoff?
Smow?
Smaw?
Smo?

>>146773759
https://youtu.be/lRsXcSl2IS8?t=3911
pls

>>146773709
The game's just poorly as fuck optimized. FROM could get lazy now that they didn't have to abide by PS3/360 limitations.
Too bad the game doesn't have a lot to show for how much it strains GPU.

>>146773639
You can headshot with katanas, and they don't make a unique animation or sound when it happens. The only indication aside from additional damage is that there will be a special blood particle that emanates from the head.

As far as I know, katanas are the only melee weapon type that can headshot outside of headshot-dedicated WAs.

The reason that hit did extra damage is because sprinting and WD attacks have a small window where the user takes instability damage in addition to their thrust defense being compromised. Trading with the startup of a running attack generally nets higher counterdamage.

>>146773897

Sumo.

>>146773897
smo

>>146773897
Smau

Is the regular old glaive worth using other than to be contrarian and not use the BKG? Also, is Gundyr's halberd good? I never see it or hear anyone talking about it. I compared a 40/40 BKG build to a 60/15 Gundyr's glaive build and the AR difference is only about 8 or 9 points. Seems like a decently fast weapon for a strength build.

>crystal magic weapon
>96x(spellbuff/100) buff
>45 fp cost allowing to cast twice at 10 att

>lightning weapon
>96x(spellbuff/100) buff
>50 fp cost so you need to level att just to get two casts

why is this allowed?

>>146773778
Raw Lightning Blade

>>146773897
hawkeye gough is confirmed to be pronounced "goff" since we hear him say it. So I guess it's pronounced "smoff" English is convoluted and pronunciation distorted though.

>>146773993
Gundyr's is good. Glaive is like an alright version of Gundyr's

>>146773903
>tfw only glaives, vertical UGS and greataxes can actually headshot Yhorm consistently
I feel like they threw stomruler in because they realized they'd fucked up his boss design and the vast majority of weapons couldn't actually fight him properly.

>>146773893
You might be too close to him still. I stay as far away as possible while still being locked on, and back up after every few casts. He only ever charges me once or twice during the whole fight. You may also want to try faster spells or wear the sage ring if you aren't already.

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>>146774219
GUNDYR FAN CLUB

>>146773897
the katakana is スモウ (sumou)
so yeah, "smo"

>>146774131
his name is "gou" in Japanese though

Fighting royal rat authority in DaS2, how many lockstones should I farm until I actually try to beat him?

>>146773661
that's a good thing

>>146773993
All glaives are great. Gundyr's one is more for invasions and to chase chuggers, don't ever do WA if opponent has a shield in hand.

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do the magic/miracle rings boost weapon buff damage this time around or do they still have no effect?

>>146773993
Regular Glaive has less AR and is heavier than BKG. You can buff it though, but I don't think that's a plus.

>>146774534

I like how the regular glaive looks and I like the moveset, it just doesn't seem as good as the lucerne since you can leo ring with it. I also really the crescent axe, warcry is so good and really mixes up the moveset. When I use it in pvp it seems like most people don't know how to handle the warcry R2s.

>>146774382
https://youtu.be/R0L-SCY_fg4?t=77

>his name is "gou" in Japanese though

Shiva, pls go

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This is about a guy dropping "Rubbish" for someone.

>>146773993
Gundyr's has a really strong WA, but it's parryable. I believe you can technically combo into it, but it's range-specific and can't be buffered (meaning you cane to link the charge after R1 or else they recover). It also deals high poise damage, which means that most HA weapons will lose their HA for a little while after eating a few hits from you.

GKGlaive has unique R2s that are pretty good with extremely strong tracking. You can combo R2->L1->R1 or R1->L1->R1 for more damage than standard 2 hit combos and it also does more poise damage, though not as much as Gundyr's.

Glaive is the lowest AR of the 3 but also the lowest stamina costs and the lightest. It can combo R1->L1->R1 like the BKG but not R2->L1.

Personally, I think BK is best-in-class because it actually has a decent R2, but there's not a huge difference between the 3 in terms of stats.

Worth noting that the Lucerne is the 2nd shortest Glaive and 2nd lowest AR, but is actually the best for trading thanks to its thrust damage and leo counter potential.

The only glaive that's outright bad is the Cescent Axe. Despite having a glaive moveset, it has axe AR, so the godlike hyperarmor doesn't actually help it trade positively against most weapons. It's also the shortest glaive, and straightswords can outrange it.

>>146774253
straight swords can do it too

>>146774714
DS3's crescent axe is a first good crescent axe in series, warcry allows to really mix things up.

I've been googling for hours now but there just doesn't seem to be a solution. I just installed this game and I get no sound with my Razer usb headset. The sound plays fine through my monitor's speakers, but they're too shitty to seriously consider playing through the game like that.

Is there anything at all I can do? The only solution I can possibly think of is to plug in some random, shitty iphone earbuds or something and playing like that, but come on.

>>146774918
I'd believe it, since straightswords have pike range on their R1s thanks to shitty hitboxes, but I've never actually seen it myself.

Are there any sliders for Quelaag/Fair Lady's face anywhere? Or can an anon come up with them?

Also what stats should I use for a pyro for levels 20-30, 40-120 and 130? I know 15/40/40 is the hardcap for pyro/dark anything, but I struggle when it comes to other stats. I also need a few good side weapons so I'm trying to take that into consideration. I've done research and used mugen a lot but I can'tell seem to figure out what stats to sacrifice on(of course luck stays at the base). I really want to stay at a PvP meta until I complete the DLC, after which I may or may not max out. Please help me out here.

>>146774976
sorry i'm tired and retarded. i'm talking about dark souls 3, and my drivers are up to date and starting the game with the headset unplugged and plugging it in once it's running doesn't work.

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>>146774858
Did you perhaps mean pls gou?

>>146774714
>When I use it in pvp it seems like most people don't know how to handle the warcry R2s.
What

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>>146775015
you can try it yourself
two-handed R1s and WA hit his head pretty consistenlty, but you must wait for a certain attack
if straight swords can do it, i think, katanas should work too

>>146775348
epic meme lucy
fuck off

>>146774861
Kek, redditors always being butthurt.
I've gotten like 30ish~ friend invites from invasions, but only one piece of hatemail. Some dude got butthurt that I was using the hornet's ring and he sent me a wall of text about it. It was pretty hilarious; he even had the Reddit passive aggressive ;) multiple times to show that he wasn't angry. Pity I couldn't respond because I accepted his friend request then left to microwave some burritos and he deleted me before I came back.

>mfw imaging him seething with anger

What the most effective physical damage type in PvE/PvP? Standard. slash. thrust or strike?

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>>146774287

...sumo?

>>146774976
Have you double-checked which audio device drivers the game's volume is being channeled through?
Sometimes games don't default to 3rd party audio hardware and you have to manually disable whatever driver it defaulted to to force it through the one you want.

360 controllers have an audio driver that piggybacks off their controller driver and frequently confuses windows as it will force sound channels through the "headset" device of the 360 controller, even with no headset actually plugged into it. This can still happen even if you're only emulating 360 drivers for a Dualshock controller through some software like DS4Windows.

Go into the sound devices section of your control panel, play some music or something that normally goes through your headphones just fine and watch to see which device it's actually going through. When you startup the game and your headphones stop working, watch which device that sound channel is "playing" through and disable it.

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Before the Throne of Want, Paladin Tempus has reached end of his journey in Drangleic. Adorned in his worn Heide Knight Armor, his distant and fading memory of former homeland, he turns his back on throne and braves into the path beyond the flame and beyond the dark. He does not know what waits him but his drive to search for his fate is unsatiable, for that is his fate....

The End
***

Well that was fun. Dark Souls 2 has my favorite credits song. Did i enjoy SotFS better than Dark Souls 3?
Yeah, kind of, t b q h. I'm about to load up ds3 again anyway but ds2 was such a great journey and I glad I played through it again. Someday, i'll play it again as a different build.

>>146775396
Makes me want some burritos. You still got the message? Could make for a good read.

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>>146775157
If you want a Quelaag cosplay you need carthus curved sword which means 15 str/18 dex which also allows you to use a whole fuckton of good light weapons.
At low levels better just pump vigor and wield raw astora straight sword, when you get to smouldering lake start leveling up pyromancy stats as you will find all the best pyromancies there but you will need a raw weapon to kill the boss.
Here's my SL125 build, if i would go to 130 i would just either throw 5 points into the end or 4 stats to use dark washing pole to really fuck up the estoc turtles.

>>146775479
Yes. It's wordplay.

In fact, the majority of names of people and places in the souls games are wordplay with varying degrees of obscurity.

>>146775398
Standard - all arround
Slash - weak vs armor, good vs flesh
Thrust - decent dmg, usually high reach
Strike - good vs armor, bad vs flesh

Ideally you want to have more than one type of dmg, but in this game that does no longer matter that much

>>146775538
That's what I'm doing. I've got to get one more Lord soul and then I can finish the game. Then I'll be off to DaS3.

>>146775645
Shitty answer to a shitty question.

>>146775316

Crescent axe has standard halberd R2.

When you use warcry it changes the R2s to the kind the greataxe has during warcry. Warcry also buffs the crescent axe's damage and its R2s have hyper armor. It's really good and really fun.

>>146775398
In PvE there's only a handful of enemies that deal standard damage, however most player weapons deal standard. So there's that

>>146775615
10 end you got ME.

>>146775931
Oh shit I though it was about defences
Am retard, pls ignore

>>146773897
Small

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>>146775892
I know what it does, I'm just surprised it's "effective" in pvp, I mean you can just parry it.

Giving away a Symbol of Avarice since I've got a spare on this character.
Name a place and pw if you want it. PC

HOW THE FUCK DO I PLAY AGAINST HALBERDS

>>146775508
Thanks for the suggestions; I tried doing that but when the game is playing no sound is showing anywhere, disabled all emulating softwares, etc. I guess I'll just request a refund and forever shit on from's name. I've been playing since Demon's Souls and I have to put up with this retrograde bullshit? fuck that

>>146776106
yeah, if you're going to just do it like that sure. You can "just parry" most everything.

>>146773018
Use CSS for damage, wear lingering dragon crest ring, equip a decent shield, and then use great magic shield. He won't be able to touch you outside of his spear grab attacks.

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>>146776046
>needing end for light weapons in a game with nearly bb tier stamina consumption and strong passive game aided by fire surge

>>146775578
Nah, I should have screencapped it, though. Is there any way to recover messages on steam?

>>146773994
>>146773994
both are shit anyway

>>146775398
Slash is the worst type for pve. Anything with meaningful defense will have a large amount of slash resistance. It's only effective against enemies that are low-defense in general, but low-defense enemies are almost always low-HP enemies as well, so playing to damage types is pointless against them.

Standard is basically slash, but better. High-defense enemies resist standard less than slash but nothing is weak to it, so it's consistent regardless of your target.

Thrust is weird. Many enemies have high and low thrust resistance buit the difference seems largely arbitrary and not really based on logic or appearance. For example, Vordt and Winged Knights have low thrust defense despite having curved armor, which is explicitly stated to counter thrust damage. All enemies in pve and pvp incur a massive penalty to thrust defense for a brief window during attack animations/recovery. This penalty negates thrust defense entirely and usually puts it well into the negatives, boosting the damage of your attack significantly. Thrusting weapons, as a consequence, do high DPS to enemies with long animations that give a wide window for thrust damage and are ideal against enemies that have no poise or long recovery animations, to exploit that bonus. In pvp, thrust weapons are exceptionally good at trading or abusing passive-play and spacing to punish for counter bonus. Despite having this huge bonus, there isn't a notable amount of enemies that resist thrust damage, and thrust doesn't suffer any AR penalties compared to other damage types.

Strike is supposedly the lowest defense of most high-defense enemies but only explicitly resisted by enemies that are essentially big wads of flesh or fat, of which there are exceptionally few. Strike is supposed to be most effective against the curved armor that supposedly counters thrust damage, but Winged Knights are actually explicitly resistant to strike.

>>146776263
don't go for trades

>>146776294
Nah, it's different. Look at that fucking wind up, and the warcry use was a bigger enough sign of what's to come. You can't just parry an estoc R1 or a Washing Pole WDR1 on reaction, while in the webm I had 3 seconds to parry the warcry R2.

>>146776263
longer halberd

>>146774269
Done. Using Great Deep Soul helped a lot. Im still playing the 1.03v so sorceries are not buffed

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>>146776263

you don't, you just take the carbs into your body directly, you fat fuck.

>>146776106
So most parry spammers switched to iron round shield. Is there actual up-to-date parry window data available?

>>146776263
Use a shield and/or dodge

Why do I see katanas and dual swords all the time in DEX builds? (thank god estocs are gone) There has to be more competitive weapons for DEX, hell, there has to be funnier weapons for DEX.

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>SL120 pontiff duel
>get the guy I summoned down to like 10% health while I've taken no damage
>he runs away into the level
>doesn't black crystal out, afks somewhere with obscuring ring

How much of a pussy do you have to be? You're really THAT mad you're losing? Even though you effectively lose nothing if you lose and win nothing if you win?

I mean, this is literally the first time this has ever happened to me, PC. This kid must be literally 8 years old, right? That's the only thing that makes sense to me for someone to be THIS salty about getting destroyed in a 1v1 duel.

>>146776486
>parry spammers
parry spammers are still using buckler/target shield. The thing is Iron Round Shield weighs 2.0 and has 62 stability at +10, that's why it's so good. It still has small shield parry frames though.

>>146776263
I like to bait them into attack and then throw something at them.
It doesn't work great but it's easy and safe.

>>146776528
because edge

>>146776528
Scythes got nerfed a little too hard. Daggers are still riposte tools.

>>146774385
Pretty sure you find more than enough for all the actually useful things just by playing through the game.

>>146776594
Why not caestus > buckler and target shield?

>>146776614
That's probably the safest way to deal with them, yeah. Avelyn or Arbalest is pretty good.

>>146776556
why dont you have 5 seeds on hand?

>>146776263
If you use a straightsword or carthus vurved sword, you can hover passively outside of their range and punish whiffs with R1s. You can stand just outside of the reach of the little ground shockwave, take one step forward as they whiff and safely punish their recovery consistently with those weapons.

There's really no other effective counter to halberds. They out-trade everything, have perfect hyperarmor covering the entirety of all their animations and are unparryable at sweetspot range. They can swing as you enter their max range every time with impunity because they're 100% safe and maintain a tempo advantage as long as you roll their attacks. Punishing whiffs is really the only effective counter, but only a select few blatantly overpowered weapons can do so consistently.

>>146776408

Just using warcry doesn't mean someone is just going to stand there and charge the R2. Warcry is good enough on its own for the attack buff. And you don't have to charge the whole thing, I've caught people parrying too early or too late because I just held it down a little bit

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>>146776556
>that pathetic hp bar

>>146776263
Parry, even 2h they can be parried. They are also slow as fuck, so roll and hit with a faster weapon or even backstab them if you can. Got a few surprises like that as a halberd user.

>>146776556
What was his name? i think i beat that nerds ass and he pulled the same shit.
Is he using dark sword?

>>146776556
>Gotthards + blessed cestus
>rings setup explicitly to abuse rolling L1spam and absolutely nothing else
I would've done the same thing desu.
One less tumour at Pontiff's while I sit somewhere and watch chinese cartoons sounds pretty worthwhile.

>>146776528
Good R1 reach makes up for lack of forward step straight swords have, they still have nice damage and the running attack is actually useful thanks to thrust and lag.

>>146776364
Can't remember. Last time I used stream was 2013. Try searching for a trash section in your messages, like on Gmail..

>>146776798
Can't parry the halberd sweetspot, m8.
You can even test it against the autoparry skeletons. Halberds are only parryable at point-blank range, where the shaft hits you but the blade misses completely. As long as they R1 at max range every time you approach and roll backwards after, you can't approach into parryable range.

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I feel like such a boss

is equipping both pontiff rings worth it while using the old wolf curved sword?

>>146776556

>gotthards + leo + bloodring

LOL

fucking blow your brains out

>>146776957
WUT RINGS U GOT BITHC?

>>146772147
>Sen's Shrine
>absolutely nothing in common with Sen's Fortress in terms of aesthetic

>Quelaag's Archives
>implying a half-demon spider that's part of a cult that practitions Pyromancy is even half that literate

>>146776980
not really, this game isn't bloodborne :^)

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>>146776556
This happens all the fucking time to me on PC 120

>>146776957
lmao giantdad git gud waht rings u got bicth legend never dies xdD

>>146777045
Havels, FaP
i dun me homework casul

>>146777048
Every book is just the chaos servant roster.

>>146776980
Only if you use the Old Wolf CS as a backpack and have a paired weapon in the mainhand.

The Old Wolf sword can't actually hit often enough to trigger the effect itself unless you have practically infinite stamina and are mashing into a sandbag. The best way to use them is with a paired weapon that can combo L1->WA, since you'll trigger and benefit from the eye effects in the same combo, and it will linger long enough for a rollcatch attempt to potentially extend the effect.

In general, both effects are trash in pvp but great for pve against bossfights.

>>146777048
this is some autism right here

>>146776957
>Combusion
You've still got to beat him on NG+.
Now that's more like bit of a challenge.

>>146776628
what about curved swords, curved gratswords and the specific weapons (like hollowslayer greatsword. the fuck are them?

>>146777291
>and the specific weapons (like hollowslayer greatsword. the fuck are them?
Dude what

>>146777073
you could have killed him here.
black flame combos into Flame Weapon art

>>146777291
Curved Swords are everywhere. Curved Greatswords aren't as broken, so they're rarer.

>>146777262
I literally never used magic in any context before, I only equipped it for the cosplay. First playthrough.

>>146777384
it combos into longsword R1s too, but I got scared of the halberds, halberds are scary. Hindsight is 20/20.

>>146777073
>he pulls out a greatbow

>>146776727

Seed doesn't matter when they just run to the end of the level somewhere away from enemies and hide for an hour. Even if I went through the level killing shit and eventually found him he'd probably just parry fish all day while chugging.

I mean it's just one of those things where even though I can beat that, it's a gigantic waste of time. I mean oooooh, I jumped off the side of the arena after playing a few more matches with dried finger and he still didn't leave. Guess you got me, kid. Now I only have 146 embers instead of 147.

I mean what I'm really trying to wrap my head around is how pathetic you have to be to do that in DUELS. Not invasions, that I can understand and at least people can progress to the boss if they want. Duels. You just run off and afk somewhere wasting both your time and mine because you're mad you got your ass handed to you so I'm stuck in the fog and can't exit the game. It's never happened to me before in over 200 hours of dueling, I'm more fascinated by understanding the mindset of this guy than anything.

>>146777002
>>146776847

Oh nevermind I get it now.

>One less tumour hurr durr

I mean, it's not since I can just dried finger and when I'm bored jump off the side and lose literally nothing because I have backup saves. You're actually just wasting your own time because you can't play the game for however long you stay in my world, so you're pretty fucking stupid, anon.

>>146768412
DeS is a better game and also there's no point to getting SOTFS on PS3 because it runs at like 20 fps

>>146777073
Welcome to Dark Souls, honor is optional.

>>146776954
One step closer and you can parry. A good parrier rolled to me, then parried my second R1 and one hitted me. They require more skill but people can parry them.

>>146775615
This is good, I just think I'd prefer a Vig minimum and higher End so that I can dash/roll dodge when things get hairy. Or has that not been a problem for you? I basically want to use my weapon at close range but I want to stay at far/medium range for pyro which is going to be my priority.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/49086

hows this for a magic build

>>146777048

To be fair, in Quelaag's day it was fire sorcery and it might've been more refined. Also, we do learn pyromancy from books in DS3.

>>146777073
It is because magic isn't viable.

>>146777549
Honor is dead and buried. All we have now are tryhards trying to show off "skills" and posting screenshots of their hard earned Ws on twitter or facebook of their favorite e-celeb circlejerk.

>>146777448
You'll actually want the two black flames if you're going to do PvP with zweihander.

>>146777603
>two crystal sorceries with only 24 fp

>>146777451

idk if it'd help with your setup and how much weight you're willing to carry, but black knight shield + gargoyle FS works incredibly well for turtlepoke backstabbing halberds. I'm mainly a spear user and I've found that to be the most effective way to beat them, just dodge the first attack, tank the second attack, guardpoke when you're roughly behind them. It's a much faster backstab animation.