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>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

>Old Relics
>>146599685
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>still no DLC
Jesus fuck, CA.
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>somehow lose against random nordic faction as langobards

I have no clue how to play this fucking game. My general keeps dying to random arrows and then all hell breaks loose.
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Can anyone tell me what the hotkey is to save a custom formation that you set during deployment?

I feel like there is one but I'm too braindead to remember.
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>>146705147
>No DLC
I wasn't expecting a DLC a month after the game came out

>No NEWS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS on upcoming DLC since launch
Come on guys
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>>146705336
Do you mean ctrl g? that only works for that battle though
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>>146705147
I'm sure it will there on monday cue whining from people who get triggered by any kind of DLC even if it's needed
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who spooky here?
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>>146705579
BUT MONDAY IS SO FAR AWAY I COULD BE DEAD BY THEN FUCK
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>flee from romans 8 turns straight
>finally safe
>the huns are back in town
>we will desecrate your women, violate your ancestors

what a mess we made when it all went wrong
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>Dwarves get ambushed by elves
>send an ambassador to ask what the fuck is up
>the elvish king shaves his beard and tells him to fuck off
>rather than just telling him that there are rebel elves now and they did it

Really?
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>>146705804
elves have always been assholes
watch yourself, around elves.
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What is the hallmark of a master understander of strategy, twg/?
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G O B L I N S
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If Bretonnia was conquered by the Empire, what would happen to it?
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>>146705804
>elves illogical cunts
>Dwarves are illogical pricks
Its amazing these two stupid races havent gone extinct, they are both too stupid to live.
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>>146705956
It would be extremely painful.
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>>146705956
The lives of its citizens would improve dramatically?
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>>146705804
You think that's fucking stupid? It happened in real life. And triggered the Mongol Invasion.

>Genghis Khan then sent a second group of three ambassadors (one Muslim and two Mongols) to meet the Khwarezmian shah himself and demand the caravan at Otrar be set free and the governor be handed over for punishment. The shah had both of the Mongols shaved and had the Muslim beheaded before sending them back to Genghis Khan. Muhammad also ordered the personnel of the caravan to be executed. This was seen as a grave affront to the Khan himself, who considered ambassadors "as sacred and inviolable."[7] This led Genghis Khan to attack the Khwarezmian Dynasty. The Mongols crossed the Tien Shan mountains, coming into the Shah's empire in 1219.[8]
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What is generally a typically "decent" setup for an army? As I understand it, spearmen aren't that good in Attila.

I'm primarily talking early/mid-game since I never tend to go too far before restarting.
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>>146705956

Judging by previous examples, it would get turned into an Imperial Province. Perhaps two, as it's much larger than any individual province. As such, Leon or his successor and one other would become Elector Counts.

The worship of the Lady would probably still be permitted, but worship of Sigmar and Ulric would be promoted. The power of the nobility would be curbed, and the influence of the middle merchant class promoted. Peasants taxes drop from the ridiculous 90%, to more reasonable levels (still high, but even the most despotic nobles in the Empire rarely take more than 60%).
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>>146705956
>change trees so wood elves can't skulk about
>abolition of culture resulting in increased womens rights in bretonnia
>peasant life would improve, and luxuries enjoyed by empire civilians would become more available to bretonnians
>more complicated infrastructure, likely decreasing effectiveness in defense against beastmen
>wood elves would probably get pissed, since they can't manipulate the frogs anymore
>more elector counts
there would be good aspects and bad aspects. it's difficult to say if people would benefit more overall either way.
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>>146706147

Yeah, but at least then thye actually did it.

In this case, the Phoenix King just refused to mention that there were evil elves who probably did it.
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>>146706185
For Romans? Spears are great.

My setup for roman factions is usually something like this:

>1 General
>5 spears
>5 swords w/ defensive testudo
>4 cav
>4 missile units
>1 Onager
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Why is this thread so dead? You'd think it would be more active during a steam sale

I suppose Warhammer really did kill Total War after all.
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I can only afford one right now. hard times
Celts, Vikings, or Langobards?
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>>146706185

if you want to be a boring faggot you could always have about 6-8 spearmen for you wall, 2-4 swordsmen for flanking, 1-2 units of axemen for anti-armor, and loads of cav for hammer and to chase routers.

Don't bother using archers/slingers, the micro is annoyingly painful since there's no guard mode, your guys will literally just walk into combat if you forget about them for more than 5 seconds, and they'll give a morale malus to your other troops when they rout
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>>146706434

>it's difficult to say if people would benefit more

The peasantry of Bretonnia would absolutely have an improved lifestyle. Massively so, in fact.

They pay a 90% tax rate to lords who are allowed to abuse them any way they like. In the Empire, they'd pay a 40% tax rate to lords who are expected to hold a certain degree of decorum to the lower classes (not a lot, but not killing them for looking at their horses wrong either).

That, combined with the massive economic opportunities would see most of them having a massively improved quality of life.
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>>146706642
celts imho familia tb(completely)h
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>>146706554

Idk, maybe because people have lives and aren't on here, or their playing the game? That would be the most obvious reasons.

But no, TWWH has done wonderfully, so much so, that CA claimed they were going to add much more content than they initially planned.

Give it time anon, soon there will be several more factions and units added to the game and the game will grow better because of it
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>>146706801
>>146706434
>>146706319

Do the conquered nations actually get Elector Counts?
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manlet uprising
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>>146706927

Yes. When Marienburg was originally conquered, it was the Kingdom of the Jutones.

The defeated King was made Elector Count.

The Empire has a pretty good system for it's defeated rivals, in that the enemy nobility now have a chance to run for rulership of the nation that defeated them.
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>>146706952

Dwarves are such cancer to deal with as the Empire in the campaign early on. It's why I always non-aggressive pact and ally with them.

Until you get Halberdiers, you've got nothing that can pierce armor reliably in melee. And Halberdiers aren't that great in melee anyway.

Lategame though, it's quite fun marching two stacks of steamtanks into their nation and fucking everything up.
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>>146706927

It wouldn't really upset the Empire, classically speaking, if they did. There used to be a dozen Elector Counts in the Empire but now there's only ten. The remaining two were Counts of lands that were absorbed into other provinces.
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>>146706807
Thanks senpai, gonna wait for more input but I was leaning towards Celts already.
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>>146707332

There's literally no reason to pick a fight with the dwarven clans early on.

That said, they aren't THAT bad early on. It's relatively easy to just lock them in combat with your frontline, then charge them from the rear again and again with the Reiksguard until they break.
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>>146707494
make britain great again.

the picts are a ton of fun for me, haven't even gotten around to the other two all that much
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I hope they're gonna buff demi-gryphs.
I can't do anyting with them.
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Give me reasons why I shouldn't play TW:Warhammer with Radious installed.
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>>146709131
It's not histloreically accurate
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>>146709131

>Demigryph Knight Greatswords (Steam Tanks)
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>>146709131
Because the mod only does 2 things.

1.) It makes every faction good at almost everything

2.) Makes armies trivial in cost so losing them is inconsequential.
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>>146709131
>Undead Witch Hunter Demitank Knight Armstrong Gun Halberdier Light Infantry Stormtrooper Beserkers (Shock Artillery)
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>>146709131
Because I don't like Radious.
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>>146709131
As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Radious mod would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of Total War modding for centuries to come.
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>>146710350
There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in total war modding, such as the strikingly realistic classic Europa Barbarorum or its medieval counterpart Stainless Steel. Radious mod will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Radious mod, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.

Superficially, Radious mod appears to be a mod which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "understanders of strategy" are, they fail to realize that Radious mod is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Radious mod pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.
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>>146709131
it bad
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How do I recruit Katana Samurai in MoS? Are they still recruitable from the samurai halls or have they replaced it something else?

Hell, is there a building roster that tells us what each building chain has at the upper tiers instead of just saying which building upgrades into which? No encyclopedia is killing me.
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What the heck you said the update will be today
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>>146711991
do you live in australia?
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>>146712183

Yes
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>>146711991
hehe ye got tricked mate, what're ya an idiot?

haha just taking the piss mate
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pouring one out for my boy Arshaka. the absolute madman
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>>146713058
pouring one out for my eyes
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>>146713253
you should pour it in. try bleach
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>>146713058
Good to see the last Attila patch made it compatible with the Gamecube.
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>>146713058
>50 percent losses is pyrrhic
seems weird.
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>>146713392
SUMMON
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>>146713941
GAMECUBE
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>>146714117
GRAPHICS
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>dominions 4 in real time

What a time to be alive
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>>146710875
What was this pasta about again?
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>>146713941
>>146714117
>>146714282
jesus christ how horrifying
I wouldn't be able to stand playing like that
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>>146714282
OF
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>>146714516
HIGH
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Holy shit these two are fucking strong.
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>>146714682
FRAMERATES
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>Troops wont go down their own siege towers in a retreat
>Cant concede defeat with out taking losses on troops that didnt even fight
Pero porque?
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WHENS THE FUCKING DLC COMING OUT! I WANT MY FUKKIN BEASTMEN!
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>>146714928
>>146714682
>>146714516
>>146714282
>>146714117
>>146713941
It's like a myopia simulator
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>>146714928
>Irondrakes shoot over troops
I wish I knew this sooner.
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>>146715127
only if those troops are far enough away i think. the arc is pretty low
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>>146715127
they're really good at hitting allies infront of them anyways, so make sure they're somebody armoured like ironbreakers.
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>playing as longobards
>friends with everyone around me
>essentially playing a trade and diplomatic scenario simulator
why does this happen to me every campaign, I cant bring myself to declare war on anyone.
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>npc dwarves bully the orcs out by turn 30
what do I do for the next 70 turns?
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Moskau, fremd und geheimnisvoll
Türme aus rotem Gold
kalt wie das Eis

\
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>>146717450
Take out the Victor Charlies and then build up several doomstacks to cockslap Archaon with.
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>>146717480
I don't speak Satan's Tongue. Anyone care to translate?
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>>146717450
Make friends, set up alliances, remove vampires so humans want your bearded dwarf dick, and prepare for Chaos.
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>>146717480
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>>146717823
> bearded Dwarf dick
Do Dwarves make their pubes look like little beards?
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>>146718234
any good dwarf proudly maintains 2 beards. There was talk of three beards, but it got a little messy and the idea was quickly dropped.
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>>146717565
>finally finish knocking out top knotz
>humans bullied the VC off the map too
what the fuck
this campaign is going to be a lot of passed turns
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>>146719464
At least you have the good luck

>play Chaos
>gotta kill dorfs

Dorfs push in orc shit completely
Get down past Blackfire pass to observe that my campaign now has an extra 75 turns added to go mountain purging without the underway usage

>Play Empire
The exact opposite thing happens and now I have very few allies and a shit ton of orcs added to my problem list (less talking, more raiding)

>Play Orcs
Chaos burns down fucking everything in a glorious display after I turtled a little longer than i expected clinching the badlands

Win campaign in record time since Empire and Brets were both torched and I got dorfs myself.

I have had plenty on normal campaigns but sometimes freaky shit happens
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Just bought Attila. What faction should I play and how should I play it. (Migrate? Purge certain religion/faction? etc.)
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>>146720428
Legendary WRE
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>>146720530
You're the worst.
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>>146720428
Ostrogoths invade Jerusalem
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Which of the Attila DLC's are worth it? I got Charlemagne, but what about The Roman one? And are the culture packs interesting at all?
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>>146721339
I haven't played them yet, but people tend to say the sands one is good.
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Oh here we fucking go.


What do I do /twg/? Post on the hill where we have good doom diver coverage and time to see what Archaon does? Or push right up to the reinforcing chaos lord and sacrifice azhag's army to stall them? Grimgor's army is going to reinforce right into Archaon and fuck his shit right up, but there's no way Azhag can survive a 20 stack on his own.
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what's the comfiest total war?
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>>146721896
Warrior
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>>146721884
Whoa what are those 2 120-troops you have?

Rushing his reinforcements is probably your best bet, but that's not a very intimidating force under Azhags command. Try to keep those black ors and trolls in the same general area to support each others.
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>>146721884
Azhag leaves his doom divers on the hill and charges Prince Sigvald's army, diving personally into five units with his wyvern to make up for his own army's shortcomings. Meanwhile Grimgor assesses the situation upon arrival and quickly decides to stand Archaon off with his Immortulz while he and his goblins ride to relieve Azhag.

>>146722274
Orc Boyz (spears) from Men of the Empire mod.
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How much of a complete Dwarven Empire do I have to raise to get them to start running out money from maintaining 10-ish stacks?
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>underground tunnel fights
>Its just a straight tunnel with no flanking possibility whatsoever

I kinda wanted like a real tunnel fight with multiple paths to take. The sorts of maps in TWW feels really lacking. The only ones I really like are I think Hel Fenn or whatever the swamp one is.

Maybe when they add Skaven we will get proper underground fights.
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>>146722776

>3 arachnaroks
>5 doom divers

If you can keep those niggas alive then you should be able to take on anything old Archie can throw at you.
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>>146722872

It's the Dwarven Underway, which was basically built as an underground motorway.

We might get some tunnel shit when we get Skaven, but I doubt it.
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Is it possible to confederate Barak Varr if they control half of the badlands? I don't really want to go to war with them but they somehow kicked Grimgor's ass and now the Greenskins are all dead but we've still got a few remnants of Top Knots/Crooked Moon and Red Eyez left.
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>>146723258
They could still do something more interesting with the terrain. It's much too flat right now. They could have bridges, chasms, elevated areas, giant pillars. there's absolutely nothing interesting in the underway
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Grom the Paunch in Ulthuan DLC f***king when!?
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>>146723258
how many manlets did it take to create manlet autobahn before industrial revolution?
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>>146722872
>dwarf made underground highways
>expecting them to be anything other than big roads carved into the rock
Your disappointment is entirely of your own making anon.
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>>146723581

It's possible to confederate anyone if they're the same race and faction. But you need to be considerably stronger. So either start expanding north, or start conquering.
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>it's so hot that i can't sleep

What faction will I play in Attila until it stops being so fucking hot?
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>>146724013
Sassykids
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>>146724013
H I M Y A AR
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How do I use Thunderers effectively if there isn't an elevated position to use?

Should I just make them PUMP THOSE DWARVEN LEGS and be a mobile flanking squad?
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>>146722776
A bloody and glorious battle, won by two true sons of Mork. Many black orcs finally met their end this day, having finally met worthy foes. This iron motherfucker here saw his entire warband, including himself, die. But he is still standing, and his green dick grew three sizes that day from all the waaaagh that he'd just lived through.
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>Marius Leitdorf is one of Averlands lords
>He doesn't have an "Absolute Madman" trait

shaking my head to be honest families
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>not playing on Ultra unit-size
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>Ulrich keeps spitting out illegitimate children

S T O P
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>>146709694
>>146709281
Radious don't have the skills or even the mind to think about engines
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>>146726180
If you just picked Attila up from the sale I got some bad news for you champ
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>>146726269

I've had it for a long time now, I just never actually sat down and played something other than the sand factions.
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>>146709197
>>146709281
>>146709429
>>146709694
>>146709718
>>146710350
>>146710875
>>146711386

Alright I found my own reason:

Battles are fucking annoying and enemy units refuse to break despite the fact that they've been reduced to 1/10th their original size, making each battle an exercise in tedium.
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>>146726505
>he actually tried it the madman

also, in Attila, does the sling or the bow have a higher range?
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>Black Chosen Arrer Knight Gyrocopters (Flying Lance and Barding)
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>>146726505
Everyone experiences the mess that is Radious for themselves once. I Raded Attila and could not stop grinding my teeth that from barbars to sandies everyone had access to god spears, swords, axes, cavs, etc.

I do not remember bug moral buffs but that might have been a TWW thing he did. Did armies cost get reduced to practically nothing in the TWW mod?
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>take one step too close to the huns
>DECLARE WAR
>RAZE EVERY TOWN
>ATTILA'S FACE WHEN
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So what do I use the torpedo dudes for that the dawi have access to?
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>>146727013
Sling most of the time should have a bigger range than the bow or atleast its same tier bow
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>>146727884
thanks
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>>146726180

>not naming all your armies the same thing
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>>146728817
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>>146727537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c
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>>146730407

I love this song. I play Zorigoo whenever I play Huns.
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WE STAND TOGETHAR
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>>146727435
>Did armies cost get reduced to practically nothing in the TWW mod?

Upkeeps reduced to 50%
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>>146731256
YARI ASHIGARU NIKO ZAI MATSU

HAI, UWESAMA
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>>146731592
YARI MEIJIN
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>>146731569
HINAWAJUU, JUNBI
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>>146731569
TEPPO TONEN
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What exactly is the role of skirmishers in Attila? I never understood. They don't have the rapid fire of slingers, or the range of slingers. They don't have the lob-skywards ability of archers, or the sheer killing power of crossbowmen.

Why would I use skirmishers rather than just a line of crossbowmen for flanking range, aside from rate of fire - which usually isn't that good with skirmishers anyways?
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Hey quick question about ROME 2

Is there a list with faction pros and cons?

I like using missile heavy armies
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ALLEZ CUISINE
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>>146732768

Parthians. All you need, they are Huns on steroids.
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>>146732778

NANBAN KNAIGHTUS
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>>146733152
ill try em out, thanks
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>>146732724
Skirmishers are available earlier, have more AP damage, and are available to just about every faction.
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>>146732724
>place barricades on on choke points
>put cheap garrison skirmishers on top
>turn off fire at will
>wait until 2-3 AI assault units bunched up trying to hack down the barricade
>activate fire at will
>witness a cheap garrison unit racks up to hundred of kills
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THE KING IN THE NORTH

THE KING IN THE NORTH
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>>146734160
BURN THEM ALL

BURN THEM ALL
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Okay where the FUCK is the guy who said the new content was due TODAY ?

You said you'll suck your own dick if you were wrong, I haven't forgotten.
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>>146734160
THE KING IN THE NORTH

TH'KINGIN DA NORH

D'KINNANO

KINNAO

KINO
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>when the AI declares war and attacks with 3 stacks in the same turn on a city you just took, so it has open walls

Sometimes this opportunist AI is really annoying.
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>>146734670
I think he meant tommorow

also he probably has sucked hs own dick already
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>>146735060
He said monday

Now what am I going to play ?
I just want to die desu
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>>146735060
>he hasn't
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>>146727435
I ask you: Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?

Radious mod is not a mod to be taken literally. It is saturated with an abundance of metaphors and symbolism; some painfully and intentionally obvious whiles others painfully subtle. It is not particularly intelligent and never makes any attempts at being profound. Although occasionally nonsensical and gratuitously pornographic, it would be wrong to judge Radious mod on its face value alone.

Radious mod is the ugly duckling: scorned for unsightliness, but an ethereal swan from the start. It is a fairytale of vibrant colours and simple joys. It truly is that brilliant painting of which a fleeting glimpse you catch, but an enduring impression you get.

In conclusion, I do not think Radious mod deserves all the ridicule and hatred that is being dished out. The stringency and inadaptability of the traditional historical and lore friendly approach practiced by so called "understanders of strategy" is to blame for this. Hoc salsum esse putas? fugit te, inepte: quamuis sordida res et inuenusta est. Radious mod is unshackled from such rigidities and doing so through homosexuality rather than the vapid norm, it sheds light on the enigma which has eluded psychologists for centuries.

Nun, Volk, steh auf und Sturm brich los!
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>>146735291
play tommorow
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>>146733405
Wish there was a way to get a unit of fully equipped gothic knights in Shogun 2.
Imagine how they would run down those peasant gooks.
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>>146735021

Thank fuck that Langobard Clubs are so fucking tanky.
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>>146734670
>>146735060
>>146735291

You people do realize it's not even 8 AM in Britain, right? They haven't even been able to get to work yet.
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>>146736039
>Armoured Men on Horses
>Not Armoured Ironclads

You're not thinking big enough
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>>146735021
>then the AI sends a peace treaty at the end of turn.
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I AM THE SUPREME PATRIARCH
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>>146736484
Kek, I was thinking in vanilla shogun but yea that works too I guess.
How good is the american ship? I only ever tried brits/frogs.
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>>146737032
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>>146704901
/twg/ has no official steam group.

Reminder to R&I shitposting.
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>>146737859

shit i don't really read the op much, but I thought it said that.

is this the end of twg?
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>>146738090
>I've seen the end of days, and years from now men will say...
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whats the fastest that you killed attila? I once killed him the turn he appeared
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>tfw you will never throat-sing with Attila

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvoVytoa-3c
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>>146739921
>tfw you will never finish a campaign you started with your friends
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UPDATE TODAY vs. NO UPDATE

who wins?
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>>146740883
I sure hope today but I don't expect it :^(
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>>146740883
Jon Targaryen
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>>146731421
victory of thousand the spears?
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>>146741039
Stop it, I always get confused between /twg/ and /got/ because of posts like that
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>>146741482
Jon Snow = Azhag Ahai confirmed
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>>146741793
Night's King will win, it is known at least I hope so, all good characters are dead and he's the only one who can save Westeros from becoming a feminist shithole
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>>146741984
It's just like the End Times then
pottery
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AHHHHHHHHHHHH PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH
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>you can just write "twg" in the url to get ehere imidietly
WTF!!!
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>>146742492
Don't worry, we'll get one this year
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>>146742492
RE
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>>146726180
Get him married then you faggot
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>>146732724
They double as light infantry and can often hold their own for a while against spear troops. Especially the Nordic Skirmishers (Very Heavy Skirmisher Infantry) who can actually defeat some midgame sword or spear infantry outright. They also take light cav charges a lot better and can sometimes defeat them.
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>>146741984
B E S T
E
S
T
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>>146736709
>Franks declare war on WRE turn one
>get utterly taken apart at Kent, thank FotE god garrisons
>I come to you in strength...
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>>146739876
I just killed Attila for the first time as WRE in 432, right before the third game stage that warns of doom.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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If 7 we wont get a patch until 2017

one of these days ill succeed
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>>146743008

Holy shit why is the show's design for the Others so fucking awful?
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Rejoice /twg/! For a knight of Bretonnia protects the realm.

Seriously when you think about it the knights are correct. The peasants do have it good, sure they're starving but they usually don't have to go up against literal chaos monsters which the brave knights have to face
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>>146743668
Want Ice Elves instead?
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>>146743685
the peasants do most of the dying in those battles m8. the nobles just have their glory charges
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is all the /got/ talk happening in here because it got banned from tv again?
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>>146705667
Those skeletons just aren't spooky when you see them move honestly. These guys are kinda unnerving though.
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>>146743832
>believing Empire propaganda
>>
how do i play the jews

once selucids get pissed at you you're at war iwth 80 nations all sending 3 stacks to every single one of your cities, and all your people hate you for some reason
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>>146743974
>it got banned from tv again?
really? they have a fucking general though. did the mods ban it?

>>146745385
>how do i play the jews
find a stronger nation. infiltrate it and have it do your bidding through lobbyism
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>>146745385
you need to kill axum in your first 10 turns or so, after that you raise new forces and blitzkrieg sassies, you need to kill them early on, because at first their armies are nothing but paighan band and some armenian spears and your axes eat those guys for breakfast
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>>146745483
i got raped by cataphracts, in retrospect i should have gotten more spears, but all those "good at this" text lines made me think the axemen were gods
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>>146743974

It got banned from /tv/

Aw, I kinda liked to hang out in /got/, though I haven't really visited since the thread went to shit around 3 years ago.
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>>146745597

>It got banned
>go to /tv/
>there's something like 8 /got/ generals and even a fucking ja/ck/ crossover general

wew lad
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What FPS will I get in Attila with GTX 970 i5 4690?
I get 50 in TWW on ultra but I heard that Attila runs like shit and I missed both it and R2 because my toaster could barely run S2 at 25 fps
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>you will never go into battle with your gay husbando
>you will never be right next to each other while defending your homeland from filthy persians
>you will never kill those rude spartans
why even breath bros?
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>>146746090

>using g.e.m

shame
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>it's Archaon targets the player no matter who they are episode
Man Vampire Cunts are intense as fuck lategame
Mostly because there's so much empty space between Sylvania and Kislev
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>>146746256

>have a 4 man Wight spook squad waiting for him and his hordes as he spawns
>Assault troops every single turn
>By the time he reaches me he barely has any troops
>That or he gets fucked up by the Empire or Kislev when he inevitably stops to replenish horde
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Daily reminder that after one month, Rome II and Attila already had numerous updates and 4-5 FLC/DLC

WHAT ARE THEY DOING GOD DAMN
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>>146746737
The game didn't suck though so they don't need DLC/FLC and updates
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>>146746737
Because Warhammer is a much more polished, complete game?
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>>146746992
>>146746996
The campaign map is literally empty
Sieges are utter what
Battles are cool but they're essentially custom battle tier
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When do you think we'll get it?
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>>146746992
>>146746996

Campaigns are 150 turns long, it's a great thing each race is unique but they need to add new races asap

from 100k players, there's like 20k players now. People finished the 4 ( or 5 ) campaigns in 2 weeks and are getting bored
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>>146746996
If this is considered complete then I dunno what to say.
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Yo lads, anyone here got a motorbike license? I just took a couple of lessons today and it was fun as fuck!
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>>146746996

Hardly. Considering that they stated that the game was released in a state it wasn't even supposed to be in. The 1.01 patch was supposed to be the patch they released on, but it didn't go through for some reason.

Not to mention, it has less content than even Attila had at launch.
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>>146747384
horses> motorbikes desu
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>>146747384
...what?
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>>146747440

Not ideal for commuting.
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>>146747472
Ideal for hammer and anvil though, that's all that matters here
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>>146747457

SUMMON THE ELECTOR BIKES
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>>146747504
>he doesn't hammer&anvil with heavy motorbike shock troops
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>>146747668
>tire pops on caltrops
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>>146746996
nice bait
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>>146747849
>*it's a hologram*
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just finished empire campaign on normal
which faction do I go for now? on which difficulty?
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>>146745547
when did you start your war? sassy early cataphracts are shit and will get bumfucked by camels

>>146747972
orcs on legendary
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>>146747972
either dwarfs or greenskins

then you wait for new contents
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>>146747972
At least play on hard this game is easy as fuck
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>>146748117
turn 3 i hit Mazun in Omana. turn 6 I had already been hit by 4 stacks. I can kill most of them, it's just demoralizing when they teleport behind you because they're just so fucking many. I'm going to try bullying Aksum first this time and see where it takes me.
>>
please tell me someone's working on a First Age Total War mod for warhammer

it's perfect.
>giant LL for Morgoth
>Hero Units for Heroic Elves and Maiar
>Monsters for Trolls, Balrogs, Eagles, Dragons

all we need is a creation kit that allows for the map to be edited
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Anybody have the great unclean one dlc and want to give it to me?
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>>146748485
i think at this point it's too complicated to mod properly like that.
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>>146748486
meant achievement. woops
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>>146748485

Ha

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>seriously expect GW and Tolkien Estate gonna let someone do that
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>>146747668

t.radious
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Am i doing something wrong or why does converting main buildings takes about 10 turns and is expensive as hell in Attila? Im Suebi and i settled in spain.
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>>146748671
Can Radious do that?
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>>146748793
he can sure as hell try
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What are my chances lads?
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>>146748910
fairly low
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>>146748485

Do you think there a reason CA won't give us model converter and campaign map editing?

GW's breathing down their neck, that's why
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>>146748910
About as high as the Dwarfs getting Karak Eight-Peaks back in the lore
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>>146748793
>>146748874

And fail, without

>modeller
>model converter
>animations for it
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Mods that will never come out for TW, or most games

>Any mod set in LotR universe
>Any mod set in 40k universe
That is all
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>>146749181
>third age for M&B
>third age for Med II
>Warhammer (admittedly not 40k) for CK2 / M&B / Med II
uh huh
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>>146749250
M&B and Med II are the only games such mods will ever come out for, but so far all 40k mods for M&B have died
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>>146749374
I don't understand why companies guard their IP for non-sold mods. It's free advertisement.
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>>146749546
It's because IP laws are retarded, and so are the companies most of the time.
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This high sparrow guy sure is a doodly douche
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when dlc?
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>>146749616
>We don't do market research
>aren't we cool yet guys
>NOW DISCOVER THE MINIATURES
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>>146749616
>a company MUST defend its IP against any infraction whatsoever or they lose the IP

Who the fuck even came up with these laws I mean holy shit.
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>>146749668
Stop that, he's a good guy and dindonuffin!
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>>146749685
tomorrow you know it will be true one day
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>>146749691
This is a rare red man
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>>146749691
Round Tree pls fix
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>>146749691
God that was so cringy

>Destroy your game setting
>Hugely popular vidya for it comes out
>Have a couple left over given totally generic names
>DISCOVA DE MINIACHORES GUISEEEE
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>>146749819
Isn't that only in the US?
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>>146749834
HOLY SHIT THERE ARE CANDLES
CERSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI
>>
Why isn't Katrin the one greeting me for when I do diplomacy with Kislev?
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>>146750528

because
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>>146750528
patriarchy
>>
>>146750528
tomorrow
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>>146750528
SUMMON
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>>146749668
he was pretty based. Even Lancel was pretty good.
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>>146750528
Because she's waiting for you inside
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>>146743987
there's gotta be a way to assign the human "skeleton" to the skeletons, so they walk normally instead of going argonaut
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>>146748690
religion can bring costs down, so spread yours around a bit, similar cultures are also cheaper to convert
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>>146751083

>not liking your skeletons doing the monster mash towards the enemy
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>>146751083
The skelly sync walk is one of the best things about VC tho
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>a rebellion every two turns
oy vey, anudda goyim disrupting my shekel factory

seriously can i slow this shit down a little bit? having to chase after bandits every turn is suffering
>>
>>146751425
get your shit under control
>>
tfw Littlefinger is me when I play CK2.
muh ambitiuns
When will we get a game with the strategic complexity of a CK2 but with Total War style battles?
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>>146751476
am i just supposed to chase bandits every turn for 20 turns until theres nobody left to rebel? i'm trying to convert the goyims but it doesn't do shit
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>>146751537
tomorrow
jk, never ;_;
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>>146751545
build public order buildings and build conversion buildings, then sit your dudes in a city. If a rebellion happens, let them draw up public order for a turn or two, then kill them. After that your province will usually be stable at the latest.
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>when the battlefield is just right
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>>146751626
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>>146751626
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>>146751626
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My leader is not fond of sex i guess
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>>146752140
Can't you understand he's a faggot? Divorce him and allow him to enjoy those big hairy barbars just the way he likes them
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>>146752140
I dont think you needed to highlight what Flaccid means for us.
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>>146752310
I thought he is a cannibal. "Pleasures of flesh"
>>146752327
I think the description is kind of funny
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>>146751626
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>>146752327
d..delete this
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>Arslan in a week
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>>146752393
"curious" means he's gay/bi
Pleasure of flesh is an expression unless you're an orc
>>
>Hojo getting wiped out by the Ogigayatsu clan
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>>146752504
Could also mean he has all sorts of sick fetishes.
Like beastiality.
>>
OK you memelords, what's the best way to cycle charge in Attila?
Run them in, wait 2 seconds then hit the "rout" command so they fuck off as fast as possible, repeat?
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fuck me dead these chaos guys keep steamrolling my empire

and why the FUCK do undead want peace treaties?!
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>>146752918
Rude, undeads are civilized folk
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Just asked out a qt3.14 girl that I've been flirting with recently.

Help me fellow understanders of strategy, how do I use my tactical knowledge of battle and strategical knowledge of building an empire to swoon this girl?
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>>146753093
Use hammer and anvil.
That always works for me.
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>>146753093

Charge her flanks with shock cavalry
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>>146753093
Don't forget to hammer her anvil.
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>>146753093
Just straight up charge in, dont let her recover her defense from that point.
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>>146753093
Make sure that your actions have her consent.
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>>146753093

Shoot her to death with impunity, make sure you are in skirmish mode and watch out for her cavalry.
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>>146752918
They just want to socialize.
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>>146753093
Take inspiration from Hannibal at Cannae.
You must lure her in, be unpredictable.
One moment, you must compliment her, then seem uninterested or sarcastic in the next.
Make her feel unsafe and confused so that she feels forced to act in order to win the battle;
Take her charge head on at first by reciprocating her advance, then slowly draw your center back as you require her to do progressively more to acquire your admiration.
Once you have thusly drawn her in, envelop her flanks and take her from the back by sticking your dick up her asshole.
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>>146753093
Make sure that you have the consent to pass on her territory
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>>146753217
>In a bedroom with a girl, leaning in to kiss her
>suddenly she stares at me, like I've done something i shouldn't have done.
>"THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT"
>mfw it was Karl Franz all along.
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>>146753093
just be yourself anon :^)
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>Still no patch
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>>146753404

t.non vnderstand of strategy
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>>146753093
Make sure she's not luring you into an ambush with the germanic warbands of non-self-sustainability.

If she has any brigands in her forest, make sure to use medium cavalry to remove them fast while they're out of position. Make sure she doesn't have reinforcements. Use a night attack if you suspect she has shock cavalry waiting in the wings.

With women a straight battle-line isn't always the best, so be ready to bend your line to accommodate flank-attacks and set up flank attacks yourself, while keeping key units like archers in the back, or safely swinging them around on her flanks.
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>>146753385
I'd kiss Karl Franz and I'm not even homo desu
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>>146753093
>she brought defence against large

Head on charge anon, you'll be fine as long as you have armour piercing
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>>146753476
i think everyone here would.
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>>146753157
>>146753184
>>146753191
>>146753210
>>146753217
>>146753281
>>146753326
>>146753378
>>146753404
thank you /twg/
Im probably gonna have drinks with her this thursday and I will remember your words of wisdom.
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>>146753427
They usually do announcements in about 2-3 hours from now.
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>>146753547

>tfw no elector countess gf to summon
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>>146753547
>Im probably gonna have drinks with her this thursday
Why didn't you just say so? Use your spy to roofie her.
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>>146753538
But would you Grimgor though ?
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>>146753678
Using agents is a cowards way to victory.
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>>146753685
not for long term
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>>146753678
>critical failure
>agent actions against my purity: -10000
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>>146753634
>tfw you'll never be 20+ feet taller than your gf
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>>146753093
save me in the screenshot
:)
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>vastly outnumbered by VC
>manage to snipe their only general extremely early
>all the VC units still last a good 20 minutes of hard fighting and basically fight to the last dead skeleman before crumbling

Wat
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>>146754260
VC units are immune to panic IIRC
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>>146754260
crumbling works almost exactly like morale, if their overall chance to win is high enough there won't be much crumbling in the event of a Lord's death
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Empire is pretty fun tbqh
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>>146754376
tru
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Attila the Everchosen mod when?
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>>146754376
It is, but it lacks chasseurs à cheval, so napoopan is superior.
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>>146754376
EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!
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>>146753093

Share her fire.
For the tribe.

Make her say your name. SAY. YOUR. NAME.
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>>146754635
tomorrow
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>>146754630
Prefer the scope of empire more though

>>146754635
Maybe after M3
Or never
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>>146752672
I too would like to know.
Likewise, what's the best way to cycle-charge in Warhammer? Anyone else feel like non-demigryph melee cav don't have enough punch?
maybe I'm too used to Attila
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>>146754784
>Maybe after M3
>Or never
You know that the chances for Empire 2 are much higher than Medieval 3?
CA said themselves that there will be no part 3 of any game in the coming years.

M3 in 2025 maybe
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>>146752582
wut
giganiggaz are the first to get wiped in all my campaigns
>>
Should I buy Napo or Empire TW?
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>>146755042
Napo is probably the better game
I found Empire more fun though personally, and as said I enjoyed the scale and the colonialism n shit
>>
Tonight is crucial
>>
5 mins til no patch announcement
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>>146755169
tomorrow is crucial
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>>146755169
you're crucial. <3
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>watched Kingdom of Heaven: Director's Cut yesterday

You know, I was expecting worse. Yeah, it's rather biased and all, but political statements aside - the movie itself ain't that bad. At least the movie I've seen capture the actual medieval age the closest.

Are there any other actually good medieval-era movies out there? I'm trying to think of any, but it generally boils down to the greek big names and legends, or after the medieval ages. Few that take place in the actual 1000AD - 1400AD period.
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>>146755618
In Ironclad a dude is thrown against a castle wall with a catapult.
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>>146755618
>tfw LOTR is actually the best medieval movie
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>>146755708
A proper orc.
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WARHAMMER UPDATE WHEN

FOTE UPDATE WHEN

EP UPDATE WHEN

ANCIENT EMPIRES UPDATE WHEN

MEDIEVAL 1212 UPDATE WHEN
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>>146755848
today
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>>146755848
Some days, some nights.
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>>146755949
some live, some die
>>
Where are you from, /twg/?
Germany here.
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>>146756179
Land of Arch and Maximus Autismus.
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>>146756179
China
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>>146754934
Jinbo also managed to nearly beat Takeda.
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>>146756179
sweden
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>>146756179
Oh it's you. Fuck off soldat.
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>>146756179
Italy
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>>146756372
IS YOUR GAME POSSESSED?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
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>>146756179
Denmark
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>>146756179
Lithuania
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>>146756827
PARADE KRUTIS
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>When the dwarfs just let the orcs pass through black fire pass unopposed.
>When your Emperor doesn't muster the armies to defend the empire.
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>>146756580
No idea who you're talking about to be honest. I'm a relative newfag to the general.
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>>146757140
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>>146756179
Chechnya
>>
Does MoS nerf Realm Divide? If not, is there a way to break vassal treaties without getting that massive global diplomacy penalty? I made too many vassals as Shimazu early game and now I'm sitting on a -350 dishonoring treaty penalty.
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>>146757307
Ja pierdole
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>>146756179
New Zealand
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>Atilla doesn't have Guard Mode for whatever fucking reason
This is really pissing me off. I place my archers directly behind my spearmen and have them lob arrows over them. I then have to micromanage where who they target because Fire at Will will make them shoot directly into my own troops engaging the enemy. I then have to make sure to disengage them myself once the enemy goes out of range, because otherwise the stupid fucking retards will follow the enemy directly into other enemy units. AND THEN TO FUCKING TOP IT OFF, WHEN I TELL THEM TO ENGAGE THE ENEMY THAT IS STRAIGHT AHEAD, 2/4 UNITS INSTEAD DECIDE TO FUCKING RE-POSITION AND ATTACK AN ALREADY SHATTERED UNIT OFF TO THE SIDE INSTEAD, EVEN THOUGH THE ENEMY I TARGETED WAS PERFECTLY WITHIN RANGE AND AN ACTUAL THREAT. SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE FUCK.

Someone defend leaving Guard mode out. This shit is almost as fucking annoying as artillery in Empire before I figured out how to area attack.
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>>146757551

>artillery in Empire before I figured out how to area attack
>area attack

Hold up. Nigga what?
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been playing rome total war with my mate in online
its pretty fun desu
i have an easier time distinguishing unit types and understading the battlefield at plain sight than in the newer, graphically better total war titles
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>>146757687
you can artillery to shoot at a certain location
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>>146757687
I think if you hold down control or alt while right-clicking artillery will shoot where you clicked. Not super useful, though.
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>>146757738
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>>146757786
>Not super useful, though
It's more useful than having your artillery completely ignore the unit you told them to attack and fire directly into your own units instead.
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>>146756179
Serbia.
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>>146757786
Actually it's very useful. You can take the terrain into account so that the cannonballs will bounce better, and/or hit multiple units better.
>>
>>146756179

Egypt
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>>146757959
>m*sri
>in my twg
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>>146756179
Hello big brother, Austria here
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>>146756179
Pontus
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>>146757959

Mooslem?

>>146756179

United Kingdom. I voted Leave.

Rule Brittania
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>>146758090
BUT
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>>146755146
I guess I'll buy both since it's a sale.

Shogun lost its charm after so many games and WH needs an update. I want my Bretonnia and elves!
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>>146756179
Denmark.
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>>146758131
L O N D O N ?

O

N

D

O

N

?
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>>146758075
>inseparabiliter
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>>146756179
>>146756672
>>146758238
Denmark.
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TRVE ROMANS
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>>146758401
HOL UP
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>>146756179
France
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>>146758401
WE
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>>146758273
London is barely british, the smoothie chugging met traitors. They'll learn obedience to the north or they'll learn the lash of the whip on their economy. By the time we're done the pound will go down faster than a penny hooker!
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>>146758280
>feelsbadman.png
;_;
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>>146758932
i know i wanted to find out how are all immigrants taking it
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>>146758996
The Hapsburgs were such a fucking joke, could barely handle Serbians.
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>>146758273

>London
>British
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>>146758932
>>146759310
>losing your capital to immigrants
>>
Attila getting BTFO on the twitter poll
>>
>>146756179

Sweden. Cuck jokes.
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>>146759089
Always had a soft spot for that dysfunctional multicultural empire.

>Non-democratic imperial Austria
>You could speak any language you wanted as long as you were loyal to the emperor

>Hungarian part of the empire
>Democracy
>Minorities got shat on all day by magyarization.

What a lovely mess.
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>>146759724
casuals don't like hard games
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>>146756179
Greece
>tfw an ancestor on my fathers side was literally from pontus

pls no debnt jokes
>>
>>146759787
windbuesche were the best thing about the Hapsburg Empire. And the opulent palaces of course.
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>>146759851
man, I was surprised by how fucking awful tw playerbase is after Attila was released, so many people cant figure out trivial systems in that game, remember the retard in the last thread? who didn't have the brain capacity to figure out what governors do? or to just hover his mouse over things to see the description?

or legend of total war placing levis armaturae right behind his infantry and then calling it shit after it killed half his unit in friendly fire, he also couldn't even figure out what
>office given to subordinate
loyalty malus means

and that guy is supposed to be good
>>
>>146759919
WE WUZ ROMANS
CONQUERED WE CONQUER
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>>146759919
>pls no debnt jokes
Fine.

I'll have extra tzaziki with that pita please.
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>three weeks with literally no announcements from CA

JUST
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>>146760160
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/178892/what-are-the-total-war-teams-working-on-updated-24-06-16
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>>146759585
if it were up to me and probably most of England we'd sent SAS and Marine contingents into London and clear it out over a few weeks for resettlement.
>>
>>146760119
With this heat? Why would you do that to yourself
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>>146754002
>tfw your gf will never be 20+ feet taller than you
>>
>>146760386
I'm a raging masochist.
Actually it's not very hot where I live right now. It's just super humid.
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>>146760285
>The first WARHAMMER DLC and Free-LC are just being prepared for launch with final testing underway. The majority of the team are already working on the second DLC, and have been for a while as it is considerably bigger than the first.
>Just being prepared for launch
JUST
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>>146760285
'second DLC considerably bigger than first?'

bigger than Beastmen so Skaven or wood elves?
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>>146760365
*tip*
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>>146759919

pay debts
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>>146759996

>And the opulent palaces of course.

Yeah Vienna is fucking huge compared to the rest of todays Austria. A true imperial city.
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>>146760520
Wood Elves.
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>>146756179
germany too
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>>146760658
>Tfw we are going to have to wait even longer for elves in a bloody fantasy game

One job CA
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>>146760669
Potzblitz
>>
woah
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>>146756179
Australia
>>
>>146760520
Probably a campaign pack
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>>146756179
USA
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>>146760042
They also love Warhammer for 'streamlining' shit. I don't understand how critically braindamaged you have to be.
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>>146756179
Canada
>>
>Shogun 1 came out 16 years ago

Holy fuck.
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>>146761835

>Warhammer came out 12 years ago and still hasn't received a single patch
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>>146761519
I literally alt+f4'd out of Attilla when I had to choose between 2 or 3 goat buildings within the husbandry part of the agriculture part of the building's tree.

Sometime too much is too much.
>>
>>146762012
>Attila was the first Total War game and still got a patch yesterday
>Attila had 25 DLCs after the first week
It's like CA hates their newest entry in the Total War series
>>
>>146762165
masterbaiter
>>
>>146762165
>Sometime too much is too much.
3 types of farms is too much? really? it takes like 10 seconds to look at their effects and pick the optimal one
>>
>>146762234
k
>>
>>146762236
Three types of goat pens mate. Not three type of farms. Read the posts please.
>>
>>146761114
What the fuck?
>>
Does anyone here right now have experience with FotE + EP? Need some advice.
What's the point of axe infantry as opposed to sword infantry? Both have very poor armor penetration, but the sword infantry usually has superior melee defence and armor values, while axe infantry only have very slightly superior charge bonuses.
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In broad terms, is it better to focus on military tech tree, or civil tech tree in Attila?

Or is it entirely dependent on what faction you're playing as?
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>>146762165
Why? Just build one of each if it's so hard for you decide how you want your goats
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>>146762361
...there aren't three types of goat pens. There are wheat farms, cattle ranches, and goat farms. Horse / Camel breeders are something else entirely and provide military bonuses as well as food.

>>146762859
The charge bonus looks slight, but look at the melee attack and damage values in FotE.
If a unit with 20 melee attack and damage has a 40 charge bonus instead of a 25 one, that's a 200% increase in damage and attack rating instead of a 125% one.
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>>146763004
I see, makes sense. So I should still take a couple axe units for linebreaking and an infantry hammer or is generally not worth it?
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>>146755848
When its done
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>tfw elephants charges back to your line
BLOODY ROMANS
>>
>it's a "varg raids your land for one turn then fucks off to the north pole at forced march" turn
god dammit
my poor grudge severity
>>
>>146763142
I usually have two axes (or in the case of romans, their lighter infantry / shock infantry) to roll the carpet since I usually don't bring that much cav and they're usually tied up for a bit near the start due to all the reserve spears the enemy tends to have.
>>
>>146762961
>Or is it entirely dependent on what faction you're playing as?
this

>>146762361
thats a lie, no faction has 3 types of goat pens, the largest number of different farms a faction can have is 4, which is how many celts, ERE and eastern factions get
>>
>>146763406

Are elephants actually dangerous in Rome 1?
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>>146763497
What's the rest of your army composed like?
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>>146763561
i routed a full roman army with basically elephants plus some archers
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>>146763770
wherever they go they must also rape
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>>146763584
When I'm Roman I switch the Spear and Sword lines because the sword line can be put into Testudo for maximum anticharge. XBows can be skirmishers depending on faction.
One of the cavs in the back is your general, they're all melee cav (not shock) because I use them to chase off enemy cavalry due to my deep formation meaning I'm unable to run off spears early in the battle.

>>146763561
They're Chariots.
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>>146760042
That's what Rome 2 did to TW, brought a new generation of casuals to the community.
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>poorlittlecelt.jpg

>>146764468
And Warhammer is heir to that proud tradition.
>>
>>146764609
It is? I thought it raised the bar. Didn't play it yet to be sure though.
>>
>>146764468
well some of it can be explained like that, but what about legend of total autism? he is constantly ranting about new tw games being shit and for casuals, yet he made some glaring mistakes while playing attila

or angry jose, who said he was a fan of the series for 20 years (the franchise isnt even that old) yet he was utterly incompetent when streaming warhammer, which is already a trivial as fuck game
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>>146764609
Sometimes...sometimes, it's better to give up.

>>146764807
The campaign play is so shallow as to be nearly nonextant.
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BATON CAVALRY [Light Cavalry]
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Time to make your ancestors proud attacco
Can any understanders find a way out of this by the way

>>146765015
DIAMOND FORMATION
>>
>>146765015

>you will never know the pleasure of smashing a lefty over the head with a baton
>>
>>146760042
>Legend
B-B-BUT MUH ROME 1 AND MEDIEVAL 1!!!1!!!11
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>>146765087
>those unit sizes
envious desu, must result in some glorious carpets, my pc would shit itself
>>
>>146765256
He's pretty legendary
>>
>mfw playing Shogun 2
>all my rifle-using units are getting sniped by archers
>they literally walk up to the archers' faces when asked to attack them
>stand on front of them
>and then proceed to shoot
Fuck you. Bows are love, bows are life.
>>
>>146765340
>mfw without a face
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>>146765474
Okay, here is my face.
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>>146765340
>matchlock
>rifle
>>
>>146765571
That comic any good?
>>
>>146765732
Not really. It's mostly puzzle bullshit. Interesting to play, boring to read.

>>146765708
>long
>shoots stuff
>not a rifle
Okay....
>>
>>146764214
merci mon homme
>>
>>146765801
>Okay....
That's literally not the definition of a rifle you retard, by this an arquebus is a rifle.
>>
>>146765831
Pas de quoi, pédé.
>>
>>146765801
>shotgun
>long
>shoots stuff
>not a rifle

there - fixed it for ya
>>
>it's a
my onagers have failed to take down even a single guard tower before running out of ammunition and I dont have any more siege engines against a walled settlement episode
>>
>>146766063
>it's a "large onagers whose shots are guided by radar in a stack of nomads who never had cities nor engineers and who move at the speed of lightning while towing around these behemoths" episode
>>
>attila has come
>he fucks the entire game up to the point where i can do nothing but restart
>attila's face when
>>
>>146765801
Wow. You could have BTFO him by saying you were playing Fall of the Samurai but instead you went full retard
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>>146765979
A shotgun is a sawed-off rifle.
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>>146765340
>people still don't know how to use matchlocks
>>
>>146765897
>>146766324
Yawn.
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>>146766482
>Just accept his Steppe cock

And five hundred of his horses' after.
>>
>>146766369

O rlly?
So people go sniping with shotguns all the time huh?
"Man, he just took out 10 men from 1000 yards away with one shot!"
>>
>>146766424
A rifle is a rifle because it has a rifled barrel. A match lock is smoothbore.
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>>146765801
goddamned fucking europoors don't even know what a rifle is, holy fucking shit
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Naval battles with shanties when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWS5dGSDOc
>>
>>146766704
Its an american who said it
>>
>>146766618
You can "snipe" with any firearm you dumb mong. Hell you can snipe with a MG and you don't even have to be a good shot to land your hits.
>>
>>146766704

4 us there is onli two kind of rifle:
Kalashnikov @ shit (everything else)
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>>146766482
Rekt. Next time you'll read the rules before shitposting.
>>
>>146766762

The ships in Shogun 2 sing Japanese shanties.
>>
>>146766785
I refuse to believe that. He's probably a jew yorker.
>>
>>146766820

now - SMG is a true sawn-off rifle
>>
>>146766704

>europoors don't know what rifles are
>yanky doodle doesn't know that Europeans invented guns
>>
>>146766974
A "sawn off rifle" would be a karabiner
>>
>>146767008
You DO know that some americans believe that the earth is 2016 years old or that York is based on New York?
>>
>>146766974
Obviously a pistol is a sawn-off submachinegun.

>>146767065
Fuck off soldat.
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>>146766820

I'm not talking about "sniping" you nimrod - I'm talking about SNIPING - in which category rifles rule.
And neither shotguns or matchlocks are rifles
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>>146767008
then why are europoors so scared of guns?
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What's the dumbest thing you've ever seen the AI do?
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>>146767065
True, but who uses them these days?

>>146767139
If it's autopistol, sure - revolvers can fuck off.
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>>146767258
mutherfucker we regulated blades in the past too
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>>146767249
They're not rifles but they're also not inherently inaccurate. There are shotguns with rifled barrels and specialised long range ammunition and I don't think it's fair to say that all rifles are accurate at 1000m.
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>>146767334
I've noticed the AI likes asking you for money if you happen to have a lot lying around
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>>146767258
It's so we don't shoot the dumbass govmt cucking us
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>>146767258

Well for a long time we didn't need to own them because we had a robust justice system and the death penalty.
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>>146767341
The US Army.
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>>146766909
I have no idea what rule that broke.
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>>146767429
>shotguns with rifled barrels and specialised long range ammunition
>not rifles

srsly?
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>>146767008
>Europeans invented guns
Uh-huh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_lance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_cannon
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>>146767341
Amerika
Polen
Deutschland
Russland

actually most militar would have karabiner of some sort
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>>146767621
They're not rifles because they use an entirely different type of ammunition.
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>>146767474
>>146767723

well - didn't know that
OTOH: >>146766874
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>>146767723
Why are you using the German names for those countries my man?
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>>146766762

>they won't ever make a total war west indies because boat combat is flawed in design in TW games
>we won't follow the fighting for british colonization against the pirates
>all the pirates using nassau for upgrading like a horde faction, but once out on the seas you can take a hit to reputation but go after other pirates
>play as the british navy or the spanish dread fleet, or pirates
>can bury money on an island as a back-up cache
>AI has a chance of picking it up if they're in proximity
>can eventually go on a Medieval 2 crusade-like journey to Europe and invade Britain/Spain themselves as pirates
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my friend and I got Attila during the sale but it runs like garbage. We're both running GTX770 and i7. Is there any fix to performance? Even on lowest settings the world map still lags sometimes
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHITPOSTING
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>>146767870

So a rifle-shotgun mongrel bastard, then.
Still not a shotgun - nimrod
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>>146767723
German detected
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>>146768081
this pic triggers inselaffe
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>>146767892
There are karabiner versions of kalash

no it is not maschinenpistole like people say because it fires rifle round
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>all this German terminology thrown around in English sentences without sense or purpose
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>>146768298
not like you can't understand him
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>>146768245

oh yeah - I remember now:
tankers carry them, right?
And gunners, too I believe.

Still, IMHO, they're SMG's (with an accent on Sub- part)
>>
A platoon of well supplied abrams vs the entire WHFB world: who will win? My money's on the abrams.
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>>146768497

Pontus
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>>146746996
>Kislev npc faction looks the same as any human faction
>Kislev
>4 races
CA starved the community of content that players are basically begging them for anything
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>>146768143
>The German V-weapons (V-1 and V-2) cost the equivalent of around USD $40 billion (2015 dollars), which was 50 percent more than the Manhattan Project that produced the atomic bomb.
>More people died manufacturing the V-2 than were killed by its deployment.[54]
wew
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>>146768459
IT IS NOT SMG

IT FIRE RIFLE ROUNDS
SMG FIRE PISTOLE ROUND
IT IS KARABINER
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>>146768497
Gothic Warband
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>there are wolves in Attila during night battles
Cool feature

>>146768497
Nurgle makes the crew sick with uncurable hypercancer and smallpoxius maximus, game over.
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>>146768679
tonk has biological and radiological defense systems.
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>>146747075
Learn what litterally means.
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>>146768738
Nurgle doesn't make you sick through biological means.
Slaaneesh makes your crew blow themselves up just to see what would happen.
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>>146768497
>magic
>ever losing against technology
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>>146768802
How do you spread disease in an enviroment sealed off to the outside world?
>>
>>146768143
>tries to trigger Inselaffen
>posts one of the least effective weapons we used in the war
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>>146768497
>Done that joke several times
>He still thinks it's funny

Autism
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>>146768852
By making the bacteria already in their bodies go haywire or triggering their cells to go into hyperdrive cancer mode.
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>>146768442
But why would you do it
There's no point
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>>146768629
it is that technology that bought manner to the moon you short sighted ape
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>>146756179
Chicago
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>>146768497
Magic is pretty silly
If all else fails they can just drop the moon onto the world again
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>>146768983
>implying that actually happened
lol
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>>146768975
That's not how it works.
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>>146768983
>manner
>doesn't write the Umlaut
>doesnt't even transscribe the Umlaut
Als ob Du deutsch bist.
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>>146769093
It would have never had happened without german scientists that's for sure. It is Deutschland that bought man to space.
>>
>>146768873
>the far-right, anti-immigrant UKIP party
>UKIP
>far-right
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>>146768497
Pretty sure a single unit of demi-gryph cavalry could take on the entire USAF and come out on top.
>>
>>146768817
Someone doesn't know the might of the JSDF

>>146768640
Is Gothic Warband a meme?

>>146769120
Says you, with your limited knowledge of a completely different worldsystem.
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>>146769329
Sorry
>actual good magic
>losing against technology
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>>146768497
A better question is: The entire US armed forces with a million extra Abrams against a single level 40 D&D Wizard who has unlimited casts / day - who wins?
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>>146769312
>infil literally any sof detail with a jtac to recon the demigryph camp
>blast it to smithereens with either fast movers or ac130s
psh nothing personal kid
>>
>>146769312
The chairforce is practically useless except for bombing towel heads and friendlies and fucking up their CAS
>>
>>146769436
technology is basically magic
>>
What's current state of E:TW? Is it playable or still pure shit?
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>>146769329
Anime JSDF is pretty much magic. Not even sure if Demonbane can defeat them.
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>>146769470
>retarded bullet sponge fisters on the ground mess up their 9 line because literacy is optional outside of the chair force
>blame the best and smartest branch for their fuck ups
>>
>>146769438
Wish
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>>146769742
>chairforce
>best
pfff
>smartest
gahahahahahaha
>>
>>146769795
How about just Widened Wail of the Banshee over and over again
>>
>>146769741
a knife stuck on a battle rifle is infinitely better than any sword and shield combo
>>
>>146769742
You guys most obviously can't even count if we look at the enemy losses you claim to inflict
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>>146770034
Definitely. Especially JSDF soldiers that have trained in bayonet combat since birth. Against Gothic Warband even.
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>>146770571
>from birth
After 12 sessions of BCCT any soldier equipped with a bayonet can single handedly take on an army of medieval not romans.
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>>146770034
Yeah, midget titty monsters soloing Palatinae is reasonable as fuck. No fuck this shit REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146770863
women make as gut soldaten as men :^)
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>>146746737

>people begging for on disc dlc

Truly the end times
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>>146770971
Is this training camp or some shit
I mean she's a qt
>>
>>146770971
She is a journalist.
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>>146770971
There can be frauen capable of fighting kurds but most of them will never be good soldaten...
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>>146771797
>>146770971
Get OUT soldat you're breeding
>>
>>146771797
Why would you even let your Frauen fight. They are your manpower machines. Sending them into Krieg would be really behindert, and whoever does that is a Hurensohn.
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>>146772129
>behindert
>Hurensohn
What the fuck does this shit mean
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>>146772203
>>
why so many germans in this thread
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>>146772708
Most of the people writing in German aren't even German. As you can tell from >>146772203 and >>146769206
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>>146772850
why so many wannabe deuchtlanders in this thread
>>
We /totaler Krieg General/ now?
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>>146773538
>>
GERMANICS LEAVE
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>>146773245
Ich don't wanna be Deutscher, I'm proud Österreicher.

Also Rollan! I'm always far too late ;_;
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sir I will NOT ask you again, take your drunk friends and please LEAVE MY VILLAGE
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>>146773648

>2 kills
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>>146770971
I never got why she started to cry. Is it the adrenalin? Is she scared of guns?
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>>146773648
sweboz pride worldwide
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>>146773648
>bows seem to be decently big on the unit card
>in battle they're like half the size
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>>146773648
hintern weh? :^)
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>>146774069
Das impliziert ja, dass Österreicher nicht deutsch sind.
Volksverrat ist das.
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>>146774127
dust got in her eyes?
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>>146773648
osterreicher
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>>146774292
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Soldat fuck off.
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>>146774254
Als Österreicher bin ich (denk ich mal) den Magyaren und Slawen näher als den Germanen.
Kaiserreich Österreich-Ungarn und so
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>>146774069

>Österreicher

ANSCHULSS?
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>>146774731
with Hungary, yes
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>>146774731
>ANSCHULSS?
>>
THERE WERE TEN GERMAN BOMBERS IN THE AIR
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>>146774981
WWI Total War when??? inb4 tomorrow
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>>146774605
Locker nicht.
Genetisch und kultur-linguistisch seid ihr immer noch deutsch.
Nach dem ersten Ausgleich bis 1918 kann man vielleicht sagen, dass die Ungarn viel Einfluss auf euch hatten, aber die Menschen, die in Österreich proper gewohnt haben, hatten mit Ungarn eigentlich nichts zu tun.
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>>146775382
a-aber mei Österreich-Ungarn!
>>
>>146769863

If we're doing 3.5 then there's a billion ways within the rules that a level 40 wizard could meme the entire world out of existence.
>>
>double bombardment and vortex
>10 kills

is magic a meme
>>
>>146775724

For fuck's sake just install Molay's Spells and Artifacts, without it damage magic is literally worthless and magic as a whole is sub-par

Even after installing it don't use Bombardment spells, their hit detection is broken and they will continue to be worthless until CA fixes them.
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>>146775724
>is magic a meme
It's not even worth being called a meme.

PATCH FUCKING WHEN?
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>>146775724

AoE magic is. Direct damage and stat manipulation magic isn't.
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>>146775474
Bischdu deppart, Bursche?
Schmeiß doch nicht dein völkisches Erbe weg.
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>celt vs celt deployment
someones about to get memed
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>>146775271
It might legit be the next one. One can only hope.

>Historical Team – Unannounced Total War Title
>Game Director - Janos Gaspar
>This team most recently released Total War: ATTILA in February 2015, which went on to become our best-selling ever follow-up title.
>Since that game was finalised for manufacture at the end of 2014, they’ve primarily been in the early pre-production stages of our next
>historically-based major release. That involves planning, scheduling and researching the period, art styles and technology we want to
>put into the game. They’ve recently started prototyping some feature ideas and that will be the next stage of development that will keep
>them busy for now. It will be some time before we reveal this title. It will be huge, it will be historic. It will not be soon. It is not worth
>asking any more questions about it ;)
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>>146775990
k
>>
>playing Suebi one stack horde
>moving around quickly, memeing on undefended Roman cities and villages, evading whenever a serious Roman force comes my way
>drowning in gold because of -35% upkeep on all units
This is great.
>>
>tfw cant bring myself to finish a playthrough
Once youre strong enough to conquer anything the game becomes utterly trivial.
Especially if you have your highest tier units, dont even have any new cool swag to look forward to
>>
>>146777382
That goes for all total war games
It's less bad in warhammer because the campaigns are much shorter, in historical games you can be less than halfway through and be unstoppable already
>>
>>146777382
only shogun 2 addressed this.
>>
Has the fucking patch dropped yet?
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>>146777382
>The Last Cuck campaign
>liberated all of Italy for Justinian
>still need shit loads of units for the win although I'm just a small expedition
>>
>>146777571
>>146777582
100 turns into my Franks campaign. Started fucking up WRE without any real resistance, homeland is completely consolidated, eastern border is completely secured by good relations with anyone there and no horde runs from sarmatia into gothiscandza
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>>146778007
Isn't he more like one of the first cucks?
>>
>>146777571
>>146777582
>>146778007
>>146778093
Actually, I'm gonna start a new campaign. How hard is ERE in FotE + EP?
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>>146778447
Try playing as a horse (e.g. the kebab ones) and don't settle down ever. Most fun I ever had.
>>
>>146778447
pretty normal
>>
Hey /twg/. I just purchased Rome total war and alexander on steam, and now i'm getting the directx 9 is missing error. Anyone now of any other tricks to try to get it to run? I have tried editing the preferences file, along with admin permissions and several other fixes I have sen on the internet to no avail.
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>>146778548
*horde
>>
>>146755848
>ANCIENT EMPIRES UPDATE WHEN
Not one of you fucks joined the testing
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>>146778548
Which horses are the kebab ones?
There are no Turkics in the grand campaign right?
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>>146778897
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>>146778897
Tanu
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>>146768143


Now now Hans, settle down there.
>>
>>146779026
I swear Turkish nationalists, and even more-so Pan-Turkic nationalists are THE most stupid fucking people in the world aside from Serbian ultras.
>>
Okay so I had no idea Fall of the Samurai wasn't an expansion pack but an entire game on its on. Is it worth picking up during the summer steam sale? How would you guys compare it to Shogun 2 or Empire? (cause of the guns)
>>
>>146779193
most satisfying gunplay, but you can only play as "gook" and "gooks featuring some(few) proud Europeans and Americans"

mechanics wise, it's my favourite gunpowder game.
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>>146769697
Need an answer to this, please
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>>146770971
WHY THE FUCK IS SHE CRYING?

This has to be a fucking joke. Someone please tell me she had a valid reason to crime like hardcore ptsd or some shit
>>
>>146778841
how many responded joined slack?
>>
>>146756179
Alabama
>>
>press Fire at Will on an archer unit
>the commander shouts "fire!"
Tickles my autism somewhat.
>>
>>146779026
Starting my Huns playthrough now.
Never did well as Huns on normal in vanilla
Going for Very Hard in FotE now

The Emperor protects.
>>
>no Kislev
>no Brettonia
>no Southern Realms and the Dogs of War
>no Mousillon

Why are we even still here? I need variety in my humie/Skellie factions.
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Is there a warhammer mod that allows me to control BOTH sides of the battles, or multiple factions?

I'd like to test stuff.
>>
>>146779354

I guess for an overly emotional person the thought that these weapons are used to kill and she just used them might make them emotional

I don't fucking know
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>>146779414
We have 40 testers on slack, we've got some very valuable feedback and battles now play out really well.
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>>146770971

One woman who wants to fight is better than two men that don't.

But other than that you need 10 people doing mundane shit in the chain of supply for every frontline soldier so there's plenty of places for them.
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>>146779773
I'm here for Attila the Everchosen
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Who are the best looters in the series and why is it the VANDALS
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>>146780045
When we can't find enough men to fight then, we'll give wymyn a call.
>>
>>146780028
nice,how's the battle length?
>>
>>146779836
Nope, the smart thing to do is to use multiplayer.
>>
>>146780172


nah you give them the call straight away, that way you free up more men to do the physically demanding things.

if anyone of them actually want to try to get into frontline units then let them, if they manage the requirements

a volunteer that knows how to do his/her job is one of the most valuable things in military history
>>
>>146780306
It varies, probably average 15 minutes on 20 vs 20. Its TW though, if you want to cheese it just do typical hammer and anvil and you can win fairly quickly, not much we can do to fix the actually retarded AI.

Sieges are where its at though, we've managed to make them very hard. To take a city with a large garrison you'll need about two stacks, and we're also working on a feature where capital cities, such as a Rome, auto spawn a full army within them when besieged, so you'll need about 4 stacks to win. This should slow down the campaign steam rolling considerably, and make starving them out a viable option for once.
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The model for Karl Franz looks fucking great
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>>146780620
S I G M A R
I
G
M
A
R
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>>146780616
anyway you could get the AI to starve out cities?
The AI always assaults even on 50/50 odds when it just doesn't need to
>>
>>146780616
Have you tried modding waehammer by any chance? If so how hard/easy is it to mod compared to Attila?
>>
Post music you listen to while conquering the old world with Vampire Counts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urbvj2wpyR0
>>
>>146780587
>if anyone of them actually want to try to get into frontline units then let them

Yeah, because mixed gender teeth units have proven so effective.

Allowing women to join units actually deters many men from joining as well. Volunteer armies depend heavily on men who are seeking a challenge, and a unit accepting women suggests there isn't one, and devalues the achievement of joining said unit.
>>
>>146781092
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9JAhCB5F4Y
>>
>>146781182


[citation needed] all over the fucking place
>>
Is there any mod in Attila to make the christianity actually viable in the Grand Campaign?
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>>146781092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9X1Ta1jN8E
>>
>>146781092

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obapGp8ih0M
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>>146780942
Maybe, we havent looked into their behaviour there yet. We can change the autobalance predictions so theres that.
>>146781018
Its about the same now that it has PFM but i've no interest in it.
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>>146781327

Christianity is actually the best religion late game
>>
>>146781489
It doesn't cover the loss of sanitation in your provinces though
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I'm not surprised the Empire has issues with chaos cults and beastmen and shit everywhere when there's icons of chaos everywhere
>>
>>146781301
>http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a262626.pdf

Covers a lot of it.

As for the second part, the British Royal Marines have had a couple of chicks pass their All Arms Commando Course, whereas The Parachute Regiment has never had a female pass their All Arms P Company selection phase. This is an embarrassment to the former and a source of pride to the latter.

Anecdotally, I've lost count of the NCOs I've heard say they'd quit the Regiment if they were forced to take women for quotas. Partly for pride, but also because noone wants a 90lb darling letting die because she can't casevac a 180lb infantryman + kit.

Female medics have been embedded into teeth units and whilst they're a welcome source of morale, they're universally viewed as a liability on patrol, which is fine, because they're not a fighting member of the section/multiple/platoon.

Women are a distraction and with them comes quotas, sexual harrassment court martials and drama.

All that for a physically inferior soldier when we don't struggle to attract young men to fight? Why bother?
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>>146779189
All nationalists are stupid, the poorer the country, the more stupid they are.
>>
Do you think the next historical will use a new engine or will it be Warscape again
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So one of my many many sons has the "Pankration Gloves" that promises me +3 experience for recruited infantry troops. It doesn't though. Someone magically fix it, say "wow that sucks lol" signifying you acknowledge my distress, or inform me to what degree I am retarded.

Also what the fuck is this shit
>>
>>146781664
The Empire has little control outside of it's fortified towns and cities. The forests are infested with Beastmen and cover most of it's territory.

They'll occassionally clear out certain areas in the rare times they can spare the men, but most of the time they need their armies fighting Norscans or Orcs, so cultists and beastmen can build shrines anywhere they want.

Witchhunters suppress it in the towns and villages but they can't venture into the wilderness alone.
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>>146782313
>All nationalists are stupid
this desu
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>>146782146


no one is talking about lowering standards or taking quotas you dumb fuck, it's the actual practical aplication of selective service to free up a maximum amount of available manpower
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>>146781092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpquwHz4XSk
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>>146780616
what was the reason for moving back to 1-2 hp system? it seems like a major change and something that would require a lot of work, but most people wont even notice it
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>>146781449
>i've no interest in it.
:(
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>>146782884
>you dumb fuck

Ah, the name-calling starts, evidence I've maybe said something you find unsettlingly close to truth?

>no one is talking about lowering standards or taking quotas

You live in a fantasy world. You can't have one without the other, the armed forces are in the public sector, they're extremely vulnerable to political correctness crusades.

Open units to women, the next step is 'OMG WHY ONLY 0.001% OF PARATROOPERS R WOMYN?!?'

Then stealth quotas, training staff instructed to go easy on female recruits and sweep the path in front of them. Physical standards are lowered under the guise of 're-assessment of physical requirements for modern military service' so women (and weak men) can get in. The ability to carry another soldier with full kit is quietly dismissed as unneccesary.

Fifteen years ago, to join the British Infantry, you needed to for 50 press ups, 50 situps and 5+ heaves. Now you need to be able to lift a 40kg bag to chest height. That's it.

Turns out womyn find press ups and heaves difficult, so that was quietly dropped as 'outdated' as they've gradually moved to integrate female soldiers. Men from the UK's Rapid Reaction Force, the front edge of the teeth units, who are meant to advance and engage hardened religious fanatics at close range, now get mandatory sexual harrassment training once a year, so they don't offend some logistics lcpl by commenting on her arse within earshot.

Most women don't even want to join the Army. Of those that do, the vast majority don't want to be infanteers. Weakening teeth units and making them less attractive to the males who are going to make up the bulk of the units regardless, just to make them female-friendly for 0.000000001% of the female population who might want to join is fucking ludicrous.
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>>146784162


you seem like a manchild and understander of strategy, welcome to /twg/
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>>146781367


Good choice.
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>>146784967
>Y..ye..yeah well..ur a manchild! (lewl tumblr insults)

Guess this rather one-sided discussion is over then, someone else will have to bump the thread.
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>>146785368
that wasn't an insult
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>>146784162

>suggest one solution with the caveat that you DON'T lower standards
>post a rambling tirade of womynz destroying my military

That's exactly why I stated that such a thing should be avoided, are you slow of comprehension?
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Do disease outbreaks ever go away
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>when u retreat away from a siege but ur still in range of the garrison
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Does Attila have any good music aside from the title theme?
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>>146787801

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bucvQHmNvr4
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>>146785960

Yes
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hello
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Vikings > redcoats confirmed
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>Shitty multiculti team loses against proud white icelandic team

rip ;_;7
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>>146789161
>>146789086

Based snowniggers.
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A nation of 300.000 pure Germanic warriors defeat a nation of millions of Germanic blood muddled down by Celts and Brownies.

Sieg heil, Kameraden.
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>>146789243
Will england ever recover from this ?

I hope CA is safe
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>spending the first 20 rounds of any campaign just chain sacking/killing units from 1/2 settlements to level up your traditions and generals

it feels good to vnderstand tactics like my good friend Maximvs Decimvs Meridivs.
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>england decided to brexit the euro cup aswell
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>>146782932
It works way better and is much better balanced. Its particularly noticeable for units under ranged fire. Rather than soaking up constant damage so that all the men are very low on hp, then they either go into melee and all die instantly, or the final volley of missiles all kills them, they die at the same amount each volley each time. 160 arrows might kill 5 men, and it will kill about 5 men each volley. Previously, you'll kill no men, and then the last volley kills all the men.
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>the best religion in Attila by far is the Greek Christianity
>most factions spawn way too far away to be able to convert to that

Why do all the good things require so much effort.
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>>146790203
what's the religion bonus ?
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>>146790274

+5% Civil Research Rate.
But they get a building that ends up getting +25% more research rate. They also get an edict that gives +10 morale to new recruits, which is pretty big.
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>>146790414
neat
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>>146790203
>Greek Christianity
>Not Based Tengri

Hard to imagine being this much of a pleb

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo
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>>146790630

Tengriism is the coolest, but I'm talking numbers and what is statistically the best. Tengriism sadly is really, really bad in Attila.
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Can other factions convert religions in Age of Charlemagne?
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Should I play as the HRE or Venice in my Bellum Crucis campaign.
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>>146791341

Only the Saxons through an event
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>Archaon get ambushed by my three full Empire armies
I was kinda tempted to just auto resolve the fight tbqh
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>>146791479
Play Venice

> mfw trade
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>>146791663
>Met Archaon with a stack with all three of my witchhunters in it

Archaon a shit

Attila was a greater challenge.
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What's my gameplan with the Huns in FotE?
Raid and sack small people until I can rack up the big armies? How do I build my horde buildings?
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>>146792592
I'd much rather face armies full of hellish abominations than another stack of fucking tier 3 horse archers again
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>>146792705
Someone is about to GET FUCKED
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>>146792867
meant to reply to >>146792793
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>>146792793
what the sweet fucking christ
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>>146792793
Horsearchers and shit in the streets: the game

>omg it is the best in the series, complex mechanics and all

never listen to twg for game recommendations.
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>>146792793

>that many spears

for what pvrpose anon, this is attila, spearmen are worse than infantry in every regard
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>>146792793
>>146793021
>rear charge with camels
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>>146792592
>meet Archeons Doomstack
>mfw my Vampire waifu on a horse just sprit leechs him to death.
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>>146793154
I'm not very knowledgeable. I just wanted some cheap troops to hold the line. They didn't get many kills, but they did their job in the long run.

I like having melee "specialists" run around the battlefield, like axemen, to do the killing in the front where I need them
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Should I just avoid farms in Attila? All my provinces have really shitty fertility. They don't seem to give much more than just building goats everywhere.
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>1212AD campaign might be available in October

another reason to not blow my head off
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>>146792592
>>146792857
Attila as been renamed Dmitry in wh
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>>146793938
You'll probably want at least one of the cav recruitment farms, but you mostly run with goats for food.
>>
>was listening to kingdom of heaven OST
>decide to listen to last samurai OST
>check the comments
>see this
>strong 18y old boy
>keep going..like that..son..

last samurai always brings out armchair philosophers
cuck jokes
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>>146793992
As much as the ranged cavalry spam in warhammer is annoying (especially the AP marauder horsemen fucking 92 speed shits), at least they're not super fucking lethal in both melee and ranged like Hunnic T3 horse archers
>>
So I'm a casual that recently got into Shogun 2 and totally fell in love with it. I have FotS, but the campaign doesn't do as much for me as the vanilla S2 campaign, I don't know why.

Right now I'm torn between Medieval 2 and Empire on the Steam sale. The setting/campaign map of Empire appeals to me more than M2, but it seems like the community favors M2 more as a whole.

I actually liked the engine in Shogun 2. From what I can tell, that's the primary complaint in Empire. Should I take the risk and go for Empire, or is Medieval 2 just that fucking good?
>>
ATTILA WAS A TURK
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>>146794740
Medieval 2, you'll have more fun.
Edit the files to get all factions from the start
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>>146794892

MONGOLS AND HUNS AND ROMANS ARE ALL TURKIC PEOPLES!!!
>>
>>146794740
Since you mentioned the engine, M2 is actually quite clunky and sadly hasn't aged that well. Empire's strong point is the campaign map, but if you want a more polished gameplay you can always move to napoleon.
>>
How many units of siege should I have per army as empire, and which siege is best. Tips are appreciated.
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>>146794949
this, but you can probably just complete the english campaign in a few hours on short-mode.

I learned a lot just by fucking around in my unlock-campaign
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>>146794740
IMO, Medieval 2 is pretty fucking great, and better than Empire as a game. Med2 feels a whole lot more fleshed out and complete, and wins in terms of sound effects, voice acting, and music.

It also says a lot that the most famous mods for M2 are stuff like Third Age and Call of Warhammer, while Empire's most used mods are the ones that attempted to fix vanilla gameplay.
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reminder
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>>146794740
The community favors M2 as a whole because there's a fuckton of good mods for it, it's slower than the other games and the time period hasn't been done since. The engine has problems with certain things (buggy charges, sieges and pikes that don't work, for example), but it's still one of the most fondly remembered TW games for a reason.

Empire is the first warscape engine game and it shows, by being clunky as shit in comparison to later games, even moreso than medieval 2 which is a pretty amazing accomplishment, which might ruin the experience a bit. If you want a similar period, Napoleon has a smaller scope and feels less complete than Empire, but it plays a lot better.
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Why do pistoleers suck so much ass? why are demigryphs so overpowered? did they even play the damn game before releasing it?
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>>146795407
>Why do pistoleers suck so much ass
No AP damage, or any damage at all

>why are demigryphs so overpowered?
Amazing stats for their price
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>>146795189
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>>146704901
My dudes!
Help me, Im in Atilla right now playing as the Lakhmids. Mazun just declared war on me. No warning, no event message.
But we're both puppets of the Sassanids and on really great relations.
How the fuck did they declare war on me when I thought puppets cant do that shit?
And it wont let me offer diplomatic things.
Same thing could be said about Aksum, but they're not a puppet.
I just want peace right now.
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>>146795617
>My dudes!
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>>146795137
Stainless Steel, Bellum Crucis and Broken Crescent would like a word with you
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Why does the Skirmish option only work whenever it feels like it on horse archers in Attila? Worked perfectly fine in Shogun 2.
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>>146794949
>>146795069
>>146795137
>>146795235
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks for the details. I'll skip Empire, and I'll probably go for M2, but the "dated" feel is the one thing I was most afraid of. At the very least, I know it'll run -- I'm on a macbook with bootcamp until my tower gets rebuilt.

I'm open to Napoleon but the setting is the least interesting one to me. I'd be open to Rome 2 as well but I don't know if I can run it, let alone the mixed bag on whether Emperor Edition fixed the "changes" or not.

Genuine thanks for the feedback here, and didn't mean to ask for a spoonfeeding. I was already a huge fan of Civ and M&B, but once I got into this series I lost my shit. Roommate just picked up Warhammer and it looks incredible for the setting, but the economy seems barely present against earlier titles.
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welp, I'm reinstalling shogun 2 yet again to scratch my total war itch until my friend decides to buy warhammer so we can play together.

By the way, is there any place where I can get warhams cheaper than steams 60euro price point without having to deal with shady shit? GMG has it out of stock at the moment. Kinguin has it cheaper, but it's only 10 euro cheaper and I'm iffy on how legit Kinguin is.
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Do I have to go for horse archers with the Huns?
I've got a MASSIVE hard on for superheavy shock cavalry that rips and tears through everything it touches.
Which faction should I go for in FotE to get that boner inducing wall of death
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>Razing Norsca to the ground
>Moving my army back to friendly territory to replenish
>Check on the Varg
>They literally have 4 or 5 settlements left
>They are still #1 in strength rating
>Their economic power is somehow "Very Strong"
>The have 3 or 4 full stacks still wandering about

Can somebody explain to me what the fuck this bullshit is? I have the mod that nerfs them installed yet this fuckery still happens.
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THE WORLD WILL DANCE TO YOUR TUNE
OR IT WILL BURN
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>>146795617

Puppets shouldnt be able to declare war on one another iirc so maybe its a mod conflict or a bug

And as a puppet you have limited diplomatic options so you should find a good chance to break off from the sassykids
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>>146795710
ah twg, never changes...
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>>146796713
Strength rating can fluctuate a lot and it seems to mostly depend on how many units a faction has, varg having 4 shitstacks made entirely of crappy units and still being number 1 in strength doesn't seem impossible.
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>>146795710
Literally nothing wrong with a good old 'my dudes!' every now and then you shitty little curmudgeon.
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>>146795112
please respond
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>>146797132
19

steam tanks

not joking
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>>146794195
>used to listen a lot to audiomachine and TSFH
>comments always filled with armchair authors writing the next great fantasy novel with the music in the background.
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>>146797132
cannons are ok mortars are great hellstorms are apparently ok hellblasters suck ass steam tanks are OP as fuck but honestly just spam nothing but demigryphs and greatswords and ur golden mai boy

sent from my sigmarphone using tap-a-talk
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NEW BREAD

>>146797272
>>146797272
>>146797272
>>146797272
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>>146797190
>audiomachine and TSFH
are they any good?
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>>146743987
I think they are meant to be comical when moving
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>>146796252
>let alone the mixed bag on whether Emperor Edition fixed the "changes" or not.
Emperor Edition fixed the game.
There are still some design decisions which turns many people away from the game but imo DEI mod makes it fun.

Attila however is basically what Rome 2 should've been.(exactly how Napoleon is what Empire should've been) so if you don't mind the time period Attila is superior.

Medieval 2 will be very hard for a new player to get into since it's so old and dated and clunky but to me it's my favorite game in the series since I played it since I was a kid I'm so used to all it's clunkyness
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>>146796598
camels as any of the desert factions. Not even joking camels armored camels are fucking OP
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>>146753093
come

sit

share my fire
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