/dsg/ - Souls General

first for nito is a cool dude

2nd for fuck Lucifer and please stop replying to him

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I want to take the Fire Keeper on a date!

I want to buy her nice things!

I want to do that thing where we share a big scarf and walk around in a snowy downtown together!

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T H I C C

>>146644776
is that emilia?

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>>146644776
ew fatty

>>146644776
fatty ahead

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COME TO HIGH WALL FIGHT CLUB

IF WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH SIGNS FOR A FULL GAME I'M GONNA GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE

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>tfw no dragonkin wife

>get rekt by invader
>get summoned to watchdog covenant 2 seconds after respawn
>oh look it's that same invader invading another world
I do love jolly cooperation

>>146645098
I killed Depression
My job is done

>>146645116
that "greataxe" is way too small

>>146645116
fuck off beanpole

Why do gankers gank?
No, seriously, what do they get out of killing invaders like a factory assembly line? I just don't get it.

>>146645374
boners

>>146645098
Sorry, going to bed now. Thanks for hosting

>>146645374
They think ganking invaders makes them good at the game.

>>146645374
idk but winning a 3v1 or a 4v1 is one of those rare pleasures in this game

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>>146645098
fight club is now over,

have a good night boys and girlyboys

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>>146645890
Thanks for hosting !!

When you use a young white branch when being invaded, can the invader see your name?

Or is there anything that gives away your position obviously, besides that some of the props have a different lighting to them?

>>146646281
What is worse than being ganked?

>>146646281
Only if they lock on to you

>>146646281
I believe they can see the little flame particles from being in ember mode if they look close, also think the untrue dark ring gets rid of this.

Lmfao, invading SL200+ and so far I've gone 11/12 hackers/lagswitchers/retards

What's even the point? God sometimes I wish I was born an ebin 4chinz anonymoose hack0r so I could softban these cheating cunts desu

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Is the pope event still happening?

>>146647264
>invading
>SL200+
There's your problem

>>146647557
Being one-shotted by BKGA ripostes or Warden Memeblades/quallowity builds doesn't appeal to me.

I have 2k HP and 30% absorption, leave me alone asshat.

>>146644635

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>>146647671

>implying absorbtion even matters

>invade world in crucifixion woods
>guy and phantom are so shit they cannot deal with crabs and I just sit in the middle of the swamp
>finally get tired of their bullshit and drop a giants seed
>host uses it immediately
>kill crabs
>host and phantom chase me down trying to kill me like a couple of fat kids chasing a flying cake
>BC out
Why are people retarded?

>>146648252

Got a red the other day in Smough's armor set that literally followed me by fatrolling from Central Irithyll bonfire up to Pontiff

I seriously don't get this game sometimes

>>146647671
b8

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So with the Scholar's Candlestick; do you have to be physically holding it to get the damage buff, or can it just sit in one of your weapon slots while you use something else?

>34 posts in over 90 minutes
ded game
>>146648549
needs to be visible on you

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I don't get these guys
They're both invaders

>>146648123
When I'm wearing the shadow set, for 29.9% weight, I can be killed with all but the weakest of 3-stage ripostes.

When I'm wearing Lothric Knight, I can survive with a sliver of HP remaining from every weapon under 650 AR.

When I'm wearing Havel's, I can survive anything with around 35% of my HP left over. When I am hit with a riposte and still standing, most hosts instinctively panic, stop trying to parry and begin to play hyper-defensively.

Sure, absorption has little value in the meta brackets, but when all core stats are softcapped, underestimating heavy armor can get you killed in situations where you shouldn't, especially when trading against opponents with both parties using heavier weapons.

>>146648549
To be a viable sorcerer, you have to hold the candle in your main hand and court sorcerer staff in your off hand, while also wearing dusk crown ring and bellowing dragoncrest ring.

Enjoy your fashion and build variety ;)

>>146648787
Dusk Crown, not the ring.

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Where can I get a lightning weapon the earliest for the consumed king boss fight?

>>146648948
Creighton's Invasion outside of the Church of Yorshka.

>>146648948

dragonslayer's AXE, not greataxe

pop ember in church of yorshka then go down the stairs towards the cemetery and not the pitch black dark cellar and he should spawn

>>146648948
>>146649008
>>146649067
Dont forget to follow Sirris' questline or else he wont spawn

DED

>>146649143
>forgetting to follow Sirris' questline

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>storm curved sword
>10/10 looks
>fun as fuck WA
>100 less AR than carthus curved

>>146649143
>>146649143
thx bruhs. Better than google, you lot.

>>146649893
>10/10 looks
It's the ugliest weapon in the game though. Looks like a malformed humpback whale.

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Beat ds1 for the first time yesterday friends

Time for ds3 as I've been told its much better than two. Tho I'll buy both when the go on sale I guess

Is ds1 the hardest?

>>146650707
3 has some of the best bosses (Champ ,NK etc) but also some of the worst (big tree, big dragon)

>>146650784
but also some of the worst (big tree, big dragon)

Are they really that bad? They can't be worse than the bed of chaos right?

>farming cathedral knight greatsword
Kill me
390 item discovery and it's still not dropping

>>146650876
Nah they are fine. They are much better than BoC IMO, people just expect way too much from gimmick bosses.

>>146650901
>mfw I always get one when skipping dancer and oceiros

>>146650901
Plataform?

>>146651004
It finally dropped just now, thanks anyways.

Jesus farming items is so fucking infurating in this game

>>146651030
And I'm still missing out that goddamned leg piece (why the fuck does it have to be so rare) to complete the Cathedral Knight look.

HURR

>>146648787
I fucking hate obligatory gear shit. DaS2 at least gave you options.

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PERISH, FOUL CREATURES!
I AM SIEGMEYER OF CATARINA
AND YOU!
SHALL FEEL
MY WRATH!

I fucking love this game

>>146651353
haha nice meme winky face

>>146651353
It feels bad that he died 5 seconds into the Yhorm boss fight

>>146651425
Sorry I got excited

>>146651216
>DaS2
ds2 aka the game with largest amount of obligatory gear for casters?
ds2 aka "want cast speed? wear the ugliest set in the game"?
options, my ass

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>>146651353
>Hyped up for him to help during Yhorm
>He dies in like 10 seconds

>>146651524
>largest amount of obligatory gear
>options, my ass
ok

>>146649893
Is it longer after the Carthus nerf?

>>146651524
You may want to learn to read.

Well shit, I didn't know my souls will be gone forever if I died before retrieving my body.

What else should I watch out for? Playing Dark Souls 1 here

>>146652315
Your humanity is also gone.

Two +10 simple items is about 5 FP/sec or so right?

Is the Twin Princes GS so bad after the simple nerf? Never got to try it.

best cosplay
worst weapon

Aight people
Anyone wanna out-abysswatchers the abysswatchers, don your abysswatching uniforms, get your spinswords and put down your sign at the perimeter bonfire pass dsg
PC

>>146652349
Good thing I haven't used those things yet.

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>>146652492
top retard

>>146652560
that actually sounds fun as hell anon, I'm a really high SL but I'm on my way as fuck

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So after understanding how shit ds2 sorceries and pyromancies are compared to the current ones in ds3 i've decided to look at miracles. And holy shit now this is an atrocity if i ever saw one.
>lighting spear-type miracles in ds2 are even slower than in ds3
>no hyperarmor gimmicks for melee distance trades so you will NEVER land them in pvp, way too low amount to be really usable in pve unless you're on ng+ and pump your attunement like a last motherfucker
>blinding bolt, the only at least somehow original base game miracle, has no tracking at all, the only way to land it is by casting it in water and there's like 3 locations taking advantage of that
>force has no hyperarmor and doesn't cause hard knockdown making it useless for launching people off the briges
>wrath of the gods is as shit as in ds3 but there's no lighting stake-like miracle
>virtually the only good offensive miracle in the entire game is heavenly thunder which still has the same common weakness as all ds2 spells, 100% elemental blocking small shields on top of being random and only covering a set distance
>DLC only added two miracles one of which is just second chance, the other one is the worst offensive miracle in the entire franchize
don't know if i should even bother with hexes

Which enemy is worse?
Dark souls 1 wheel skeletons
Dark souls 2 flame salamander that you can't cheese with arrows from out of range
Dark souls 3 giant magic goat things that you have to fight in the poison water that makes you walk/fat roll

>>146652560
On my way lads

>>146652712
>So after understanding how shit ds2 sorceries and pyromancies are compared to the current ones in ds3
Are you high on something?

>>146652712
hexes are genuinely ok if you have an unpatched version of the game

>>146652824
I'm actually playing ds2 right now and see how shit its casting system unlike you shitposting DS2 tards.

Hey!

Most damaging ultra greatsword in the game?

>>146652773

Definitely the Ghru that literally facefuck you in Farron Keep Swamp. No contest

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>>146652774
Anon?
Cmon we're waiting

>>146653000
Sign is down man

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>>146652851
Well this sounds uninspiring.

>>146652940
Farron Greatsword

:^)

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>>146653018
really?
Shit I'm not seeing it

>>146653000
use the dried raisin bro

>>146653126
O SHIT
Didn't know password allowed for only 1 phantom without finger

Yeah, okay, but what about the dlcs?

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>>146652884
I've played pure caster in ds2 for almost 400 hours, since release and until ds3 came out. After trying pure caster in ds3 i can confidently say, that magic in ds3 is a magnitude worse compared to ds2.
Miracles were pretty bad though, i would agree (in PvE, in PvP they were pretty good, thanks to body buffs working). Still, at least heavenly thunder was fun to use.
Also, i'm not the one shitposting and insulting people here.

Is there even a rusted iron ring equivalent?

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well that was fun as FUCK

The abysswatchers never stood a chance against the abysswatchers

>>146652940
Lothric

>>146653096
That was amazing

Pure fun to the watcherbros

I really want to protect the host as a contingent of Abyss Watchers desu

>>146653295
quickstep

>>146653418
Which isn't at all useful since I doing pyromancy only

>>146653313
I'm skeptical about the split damage though

Yhorm's deal a whopping 100 damage over it and doesn't require dex either. I'm looking for an ultra greatsword to replace Yhorm's but it doesn't seem like there's any

>>146653506
profuse sweat. but quickstep isn't attacking. unless if you're some kind of purist faggot, in which case you literally brought it upon yourself

Is it worth taking the shortest path to all the DS2 DLC areas, or will I be underleveled? I realised I'd wiped my old game save from a reformat.

>>146653554
FUGS has a good anti-shitter moveset
BKGS is extremely good in PVE because there are actually some enemies with poise
Profaned GS has that fuck you poke
If you're going with pure AR though Yhorms is basically the best with the only exceptions having SHIT range/movesets

>>146653294
Existence of small 100% blocking elemental shields alone makes all schools of magic in DS2 irrelevant. And that's on top of an entire heap of other problems like no fast reliably hitting spells like farron dart

>>146653554
the split is irrelevant since its physical is very high too, also Yhorm's is an axe

40/40 Lothric Greatsword deals crazy damage and has the best UGS moveset, while also being buffable for insane damage potential

>>146653678
It's buffable? What the fuck

>>146653678
Quallowity LKUGS 40/40/40 has 800 AR with a resin

>>146653294
everything shown in this webm can be done in ds3 while looking much flashier and dealing much more damage

>>146653720
just like dragonslayer axe is buffable

it's a split-damage weapon, not a unique or imbued weapon

Best Lightning Weapons?
Best Chaos Weapons?
Best Simple/Crystal Weapons?

Does 2 crystal sage rapiers increase discovery over 1?

I want to kill myself. I'm stuck on the bonfire in Tomb of the Giants, and I can't get back up the Catacombs without getting bonewheeled to death. What do I do bros? I've tried charging pat with a tower shield but the fuckers always get behind me and succ my health away.

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>>146654043
list is the same for all caster builds

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>tfw dark damage isn't physical like how it should be
>tfw dark is shit
>tfw no man ass cat
>tfw no shotgun dork bead
>tfw no dark orb that catches everyone off guard entirely because it's not dark bead or pursuers
>tfw no numbness
>tfw no resonant weapon
>tfw resonant weapon isn't something more than just a damage buff, like deals stamina damage or something
>tfw no good edgy necromancer style clothes
>tfw no good edgy death knight style armor
>tfw no good edgy weapons that aren't the dork sword
>tfw from progressively ruined the dark

>can no longer make a magician that harnessed and weaponizes raw emotions and humanity
it's a sad day to be sunn o)))

>>146654175
Thanks fampai. I love you.

>tfw no s/s chaos weapon

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What do you guys think? I'm using duck crown, candlestick, heretic staff and a chaos longsword. Rings I use sage ring, both dragoncrest sorcery ring (for +32% dmg) and untrue dark ring for fashion purposes.

>>146654215
>hollowing 93

>>146654215
looks like a standard int """build"""

>>146654215
>literal screenshot

>>146653326
Go to pontiff and summon the other two.

[spoilers]One of them with a purple sign[/spoilers]

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>>146654215
>trying to make a caster before sl120

GG Smelter demon, after three weeks I finally quit. I beat bloodborne but Dark souls is a bit much for me. If this is a mid game boss I'll hate to see what the final boss has in store,jesus christ.

>>146654495
buckle up

>>146654495
I hope it was at least smelter 2.0.

>>146654495
Smelter's an optional boss, friend.

>>146654532
I know, but still if I can't beat him what chance do I have at beating the rest of the bosses?

>>146654495
Boy, I sure hope you don't have to fight two of them right before the final boss.

>>146654595
Get your adaptability up to ~27 so that your agility (AGL) becomes either 100 or 105, then you will be able to roll like Dark Souls 1/3 fast rolls.

>>146654253
I like the hollow ending the most. Plus best waifu that is Yuria

>>146654337
Well I don't want any unnecessary stat with the build so yeah. Standard sorcerer.

>>146654359
Yeah. I don't have Internet on my computer since a few months and I'm too lazy to make a screenshot on the pc, put it on the phone and then cropping and posting it.

>>146654438
I know for sorcerers the best SL is 120 but I wanted to do some invasions with it, and SL80 should be more frequent to invade than SL120. Maybe I change my mind though.

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>>146653618
You will be underleveled. But get ascetic as a starting gift and kill Rotten a couple of times and you should be fine.
>>146653676
Oh, so it's about PvP? Boy, you don't even know what you are talking about, do you?
In DaS2 PvP there are mixups and unrollables, as well as fast close range AOE attacks and good long range AOE, too. It was several magnitudes better than ds3.
>fast reliably hitting spells like farron dart
Dark Dance close range, HHSA/GHSA/CSS mixup long range.
>Existence of small 100% blocking elemental shields
That crap is useless. They see affinity, put up small shield and you blast them with CSS as they guard. Or get close and do 2 great combustions. The magic magic shied has such laughably small stability that it can be broken by soulmass css combo, or even soul shower GHSA combo (note that CSS has a little of innate shield piercing that goes through 100% magic defense). Phoenix shield i've yet to see anyone to use and miracles are good for buffs, not offense, even if heavenly thunder and force are good tools.

>>146654595
smelter is a meme boss
arguably the only harder vanilla boss is darklurker

>>146654682
There's a stat that makes you roll faster? What the heck was from software thinking?

Okay but pretending that the Dark Sword is an UGS/GS on my SL1 is really fun.

Am I autistic?

>>146654843
>ds2
they weren't

>>146654843
Yeah the fucked up.

It doesn't make you roll faster, it makes you roll SAFER. Invincibility frames start with about 8 frames, goes up to 13-14 frames (Dark Souls 1 / 3 fast rolls) at 100/105 agility.

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>>146654875

>>146654875
holy fuck i cant stop laughing

thank you so much for posting this anon

>>146654836
>a meme boss

what, in your mind, does this even say

How long does tears of denial last?
I don't think I've ever seen it be used, or if I have I haven't noticed.

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>>146654495

>beat BB
>struggling with smelter

did you beat the old hunter dlc too? I know everyone finds different things difficult, but i find it hard to believe you are struggling with the smelter demon after beating bosses like orphan and martin lawrence. I guess if you want some advice for the smelter, toss on a gyrm shield and he'll barely hurt you throughout the entire fight.

>>146655014
forever, or until you use a buff that overrides it

>>146654824
>theory dueling
i was eating you faggots alongside with all your "mixup" all day every day
you can't do shit against a passive opponent who knows that the fuck you are casting
your webm only illustrates how bad ds2 players are

>>146655105
Your post only illustrates how bad ds3 shitters are

>>146654824
>tries to spell parry when he just needed to walk backwards and never get hit by anything thrown at him
That's saiyn the furry alright.

>>146654595
He is an optional boss for a reason. They made bosses that they deemed harder than the rest optional.
That being said, giving up on smelter, seriously? Even if you didn't know about agility, you could simply get a greatshield and spit on his ass.

>>146655238
>fighting smelter on release
>for the first 10 or so attempts I ended up rolling to dodge something then getting stuck in the wall
I genuinely stopped playing dark souls 2 for like 3 months after that

>>146655056
No dlc my friend. I Have never purchased dlc for any game.

Why do people go pyro again?

It does shit damage at 60/60 compared to sorc

>>146655390
but dark souls has the best dlcs, even tho i loathe the concept of dlcs

>>146655105
Yes, our dear havel estoc shitposter friend. Havel shield is actually a hard counter to magic. Just like in DaS1 and 3. And being a passive ass soft counters pretty much everything but fastest of weapons in every souls game.
I did everything that i said and more in actual 150 arena/bridge duels.

>>146655449
That's why I usually wait until the "updated version" comes out with the dlc.

Finally finished the shit heap that was Dark Souls 2 (though the dlc was alright)


Should i start bloodborne or Das3 first? why?

>>146655587
start bb, shelve das3

>>146655161
you can't even say anything original, just parrot the reply
i fucking pity you bastards, pity your abandoned shit game you are trying to defend so hard despite it having an enormous amount of gaping holes in balance like ability to literally reach 100% resistance to any elemental magic

>>146655651
>heh ... nothing personel kiddo

>>146655587
start ds3 as it's a direct continuation of ds1
bb has a little different mechanics and overall feel of the game, if you start it first you will need to re-learn for ds3 again

Besides the Astora SS and the DS Axe, what are the best weapons for raw infusion?

>>146652712
Sorceries are OP as fuck in ds2.

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>>146655651
>i fucking pity you bastards

Why do people say faith/sorceries is bad?

The great shield advice worked. I got the smelter close but died. I need a faster weapon than the greatsword.

>>146655778
Sorceries were bad before the recent buffs. Now they are okayish.

Faith still sucks

>>146655759
same thing happened to me yesterday too

>>146655829
Really because i've been play a both of those builds recently and doing really well

>>146655778
Faith offensively does acceptable damage, especially in melee range, where, in truth, does phenomenal damage, but it requires extreme investment. My biggest problem with FAI is the inefficiency. I wish Lighting Spear was lower damage but had the highest efficiency of not only miacles, but all offensive spells, like a slower-casting Great Farron Dart.

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>>146655764
Sure they are.

>>146655918
Do people even use Dart in Dark souls 3

They deal no damage for me

so how's ds3 these days? any major nerfs/buffs?

i stopped playing after a week since the release

>>146655918
>he didn't use das2 mlgs or watcher sword
lel

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>>146655957
You will be fucking surprised.

>>146655996
Why would i use the worst MLGS in series or a weapon most suited for raw build?

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>>146655825
I fucking got him guys!!!! My heart is beating pretty damn fast.

>>146655996
MLGS is pretty terrible. Watcher's is good for raw low int builds. There is blue flame if you want scaling.
That guy is retarded tho
>no scaling
It doesn't stop split damage to perform way better than ds1/3 split damage, and buffs (which require stat investment to last any long) make them great.

>>146655908
Lighting spear needs to outright be a faith version of farron dart in speed.
This would fix all faith-related problems in the game.

>>146656063
top kek

>>146656224
Good job anon, now go shit on the next boss

>>146655778
Requires way too much fucking effort to be decent damage.

Is there a video game that could even possibly EVEN BE COMPARABLE to Dark Souls 3? Let alone hope to be a better game. And I’m not talking about post rapier nerf Dark Souls 3. I’m not talking about post sorcery buff Dark Souls 3 either. Hell, I’m not even talking about base game Dark Souls 3 with the Bloodborne PvE and fucked up PvP (with the gang squads and being capable of both spamming estoc and dark sword), equipped with linear gameplay progression, a non functional poise system, meaningless armor damage reduction, with random faith requirement implanted on items so hosts can spam rolls and chug with impunity while continuously summoning additional sunbros.

>>146656252
>It doesn't stop split damage to perform way better than ds1/3 split damage
DS3 split damage is powerful as fuck with the exception of lighting infusion.
DS1 elemental vitgouges are extremely popular even now.
DS2 split damage weapons had a hard counter as you could just stack elemental defenses every time you saw anyone with a glowing dildo.

And elemental scaling in ds2 is BEYOND FUCKING BAD, that's why when someone used them it was usually with base stat requirements to wield them, a buff and no serious investment into elemental damage stats. Even a fucking Steel the twitchspinner used such a build.

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>>146656147
The worst is das3 mlgs
>why would you use a raw weapon on an int build
gee I dunno, fucking retard

>>146656063
>0:16
my sides did the exact same thing

>>146656456
Dark Souls:Prepare to Die Edition

>>146656562
ds3 mlgs deals ugs-tier damage
ds2 mlgs dealt shit damage post-nerf and had an ugs moveset with no ability to aim projectiles manually
do the rest of the math

>>146656526
At least you could buff split damage weapons in das2, creating UGS damage longswords with just a few defensive stats.

>muh tumblrbuff

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So how is this after the buff ?

>>146656063
>tfw you take too much Speed and an unkindled steps into your crib right after

>>146656665
even buffed elemental weapons are nothing compared to anti-elemental buffstack

>>146655759

I don't think it's anything personal.

>tfw septs are happening soon

I hope someone in /dsg/ gets it

>>146656723
It's a good thing nobody goes full havel/black witch with rings and great magic barrier every single fight huh

>>146656674
Certainly better than ds2 counterpart, can do a pretty heavy damage in close battle and deal chip area damage. Given how early you can get it, it can serve as a pretty good damage dealer with some crowd control utility.

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>>146656801
>nobody
swapping to the anti-elemental ring and eating a burr takes less than 5 seconds and significantly dampens elemental damage output against you

>>146656526
>DS3 split damage is powerful as fuck
Like, against naked builds?
>buff
Buffs require stat investment to last any long, except flame weapon, which is worst buff in the game.
>stacking resistances
>hard counter
It's not a hard counter, just a soft one. It requires way too much investment at level 150 to stack resistances, no one would go for more than 50%.

Does anyone here have a Dragonslayer's axe on PC they don't mind trading for?

>>146656919
I have 1000 hours in das2 and scholar and at least 500 of those were in the arena. I don't think I saw 10 people using those.

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>>146655759

Is Soul Spear garbage in DS3? It did the same damage as great heavy magic arrow with more fp consumption

>>146657093
Yes. It's trash. GHSA is the only worthwhile spell for pve.

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>>146656807
>better than ds2 counterpart
No it's not.
>>146656987
I saw more than 10 people. But together with the ring it only gives about 30% resistances, which is helpful, but not that much AND it makes them take one ring slot, which are extremely important.
Also you could use weapon of one type and buff of the other and it would work.

>>146656973
>Like, against naked builds?
chaos and dark weapons deal 10-20 less damage per hit than quality weapons while having a significant chip through the shields, even a fucking havel's shield which is why dark washing pole is very popular among tryhards, you can't even fully defend against it
crystal weapons deal a substantial damage as well thanks to crown of dusk
the only bad split damage weapon type is lighting one thanks to lighting defense being tied to endurance

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>>146657143
>it's an ebin webm of skillful kill of a random low-level guy using one of the worst weapon types in entire ds2
Was this supposed to prove something?

>>146656995
>omnislash v7

I just switched to 60/60 fai/int for spellcast testing purposes

what should i go exact my revenge upon? i was thinking those facerape goats inna farron woods

>>146657398
giant man-serpents in dragoncock peak
goats won't survive a blast with anything on 60/60 most likely

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>>146657367
It's just messing around in belltowers. That webm, however, shows the glitch that makes SSB extremely powerful, unavoidable, even.

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>>146657597
>makes SSB extremely powerful, unavoidable, even
Woah, let me just walk backwards a little while holding this bad boy with 40 end.

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>>146657704
>40 end
Won't save you.
You can actually combo CSS guardbreak into SSB for style points.

>>146655410
I find that against somebody who actually knows their shit, you have a higher chance of hitting someone with pyro rather than magic. Magic tracking is shit.

>>146657825
Well you guys keep thinking everyone in this game is as retarded as low-level retards.
Shame your game is dead and buried forever.

>>146657889
I mean from a PvE perspective.

Pyro just isn't as versatile imo

Anyone here doing deacons soon?

Let me help. I want to test out some AoEs

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>>146657902
You can actually still easily get invasions and duels.
This spell can follow opponent's roll and stagger him at the end. It IS extremely powerful, no matter low or high level.
Ah, this webm reminds me how retarded chugging is in DaS3.

>>146657935
Oh. Pyro deals good damage on a lot of bosses. It even has some good pyros that deal dark damage, not to mention dark scales the same with pyro. The game is a breeze with it. Sorceries stop being fun when you meet Aldrich.

>>146658178
Ah but chugging is part of the game. Can't take the heat? Go back to the dead game kiddo.

Do people still co-op in NG+? I just began journey 2 and want to know if I should stay a sunbro.

>tfw no one to co-op with on pc

i literally dont even care what it is i just want to do something desu

>>146658290
Yes, plenty even if its one of the harder areas

whens the pope event starting today?

>>146658260
>people will defend retarded das3 chugging to talk shit about das2

>>146658290
>>146658356
I can begin NG+3 if you guys want something to co-op in

>>146658480
Please

I'll drop my sign at High Wall bonfire.

use 'dsgcoop' pass

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oh baby

>>146658583
That's what you get for playing dead souls 2

>>146658609
But that was das3 related.

Someone want to tag along with me on dragon barracks?

>>146652712
You only think ds2 spells are bad because you didn't see them before they got nerfed.

All magic in das2 killed people so hard they nerfed the shit out of it. There were spells and combos that hit for 2200 or even 2600 damage.

And the problem was like everyone was a damn caster on release. Shit was broken as fuck. They nerfed down the cast speed by shit load and the damage on mostly every spell.

>>146658660
Yeah, nah, no true Dark Souls 3 players (that is, a true disciple of Miyazaki) would utter such foul language.

>tfw i suck dick at parrying the champ's second phase

>>146658736
Cast speed wasn't nerfed match. It soft caps at 200, there is hardly any gain past that point.

>>146658561
Just beat iudex, will be there shortly

Mind if I finger for extra fun?

>>146658869
absolutely not anon.

I am a spellcaster primarily. protect me anon.

>>146658948
I'm a faith warrior so this might work out well

>>146653676
Bro, even if they wear a 100% shield it's not doing shit. If they can't roll too. My css will just gaurd break them. On top of that I don't have to cast only sorcery. I can just start spamming pyros

The only thing that really shits on magic in das2 is greater magic barrier.

>>146658992
I'm 60/60.

awkward

>>146657135
Seems I wasted a few souls. I'm going to swap it rn

>>146654824
>Not mentioning lingering flame.

I want to make a friendly invader (for Warmth which isn't shit anymore, yay!). What's my best bet SL-wise? I don't really want to invade late-game, so preferably the areas before Irithyll. SL~25? Considering the upper range is bigger and I can go purple to make it even bigger.

Faith anon-kun, I'm putting my sign down by vordt.

I need all of your boss battles desu.

>>146659440
o-okay soulspear-chan!

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>>146659291
Yes, that thing recked PvE so hard and had some uses for PvP, too. They probably deemed it too powerful for DaS3.

>>146659483
Boy, this is going to be a stupidly short fight lmao.

>>146659313
Top kek

Can you lock the lower body to some gesture while running?

>>146658815
I remember the cast speed ring taking a huge nerf.

>chaos astora greatsword has 1014 AR at 99/99/99/99

whelp just discovered the new meta boys

>>146659741
Yes, they did, but as long as you have high attunement you get 200 easily anyway.

>>146659743
What about 40/40/40/40
Or 40/40/20/20

>>146659624
>>146659440

is there an invisible phantom in my game

have I even summoned you? An invader was just getting hit my something I couldn't see

>>146659823
811 AR at 40/40/40/40 with fire clutch.

mugen's probably wrong though so take it with a grain of humanity

>>146657367
>Worst weapon types
you fuckin' wot m8
Have you never heard of a Helixodon
Have you never powerstanced Mastodon Halberds at sub100k SM
cause let me tell you
someone less than 100k SM shouldn't be able to deal 1k damage outside of a critical attack with one press of a button
but it feels
so
gooooood

>>146659313
how do you do that ?

>>146659883
I'm here bruv!

>>146659615
I like to set out a lingering flame or 2 before a duel. Then stand just behind it and spam magic. If they start running at me or trying to roll through it I hit them with css.

Can't roll through both a css and lingering flame explosion at same time. Or at least I haven't seen it in my hundreds of fights. If they get hit by either one they likely get hit by the other also due to being staggered.

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>honorfag dueling
>waiting for your opponent to buff

Why? No.

>>146659985
The problem is, people will spite kite lingering flame. You have to fight and pressure people into going in it.

>>146659896
Since Fire clutch doesn't work in PvP the damage should be calculated without it.

It should be around 700-750 but with heavy damage stat investment, not really worth it for PvPing.

In PvE, Lothric Knight greatsword allows you to skip Faith/Int and still goes up to the ~750 damage range though. Unless you plan on leveling up to ~500, it doesn't really sound very good.

>>146659980
Okay, now put your sign at the foot of the high wall bonfire

so i want to do sl1 run with Symbol of Avarice always on
is anyone willing to drop me theirs?
i'm on PC

>>146658736
>You only think ds2 spells are bad because you didn't see them before they got nerfed.
It is irrrelevant how good they were. Now they are shit beyond repair, it's the only thing that matters.

>>146660086

>attack them while they're buffing
>they get all pissy and heal at every opportunity

I have more Estus anyway, it's a losing battle for them.

>>146660209
>shit beyond repair
Like Dark Shit 2!!!! Hahaha we got them good fellow Dark Souls 3 bro *high five*

SAVAGE REKT XD

>normally use Lelwyn shield
>switch over the buckler
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS LEGAL?

>>146660138
>Fire clutch doesn't work in PvP
it does

>>146660334

>tfw carthus lipstick is still legal

>>146660353

"Works", just like the RoSP.

>>146660107
Yeah I've seen people do that but I just refill my magic with a consumable. I never even finished my build for this character and I've won 100s of duels on the bridge. It's only like sl 130.

I wanted to wear the crown that refills your magic every once in a while but never finished that character.

The only thing I really ever lose to on that character are people who use gmb, and every once in a while someone manages to roll through lingering flames while I'm spamming weaker spells instead of switching to css. But even then I can finish off most people with greater combustion

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>>146658780

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>opponent tries to parry a charged lunge from LKGS twice, dies in like 5 seconds
what do you do with these kinds of people, /dsg/? do you add them to tell them the error of their ways or just leave them in their pool of ignorance

>>146660209
The problem is they were too good and they never fixed them back to a good level. At least for faith. I personally think Pyro, hex, and sorcery are all fine.

But I think they are only really good if you don't pure cast a single school. A lot of magic in dark souls 2 works better complimenting spells from other schools.

>>146659743
Anri SS has 640 and consumes 1/3 of the stamina to attack 3 times faster lmao

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>>146660616
Pyro is as shit as DS2 sorcery.
Don't know about hexes yet but i have no reason to believe it's better given that it inflates my SM if i actually want to cast at least somehow good stuff.

>>146660209
this is what ds2 shills believe

>>146660747
>things has counters
>it's shit

dumb dastard

Are there any bows in DaS3 that are good for a strength build?

>>146660747
>Pyro can't free aim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1bfq2Y06zA
git
fucking
gud

>>146660874
Composite, since it's the only good bow in the game

I want fog ring back to backstab people while are distracted with a phantom friend like I did on ds1

>>146660924
They're talking about das2, dumbass.

>>146660747

Did you ever fight a player called Redline in /dsg/ FCs? He was an absolute beast with the pyro.

I'm making an INT build, cause i'm bored as fuck
Anyone wanna tag along?
PC, high wall, pass: dsgfriend

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Post Fashion/Characters!

Alright Faith anon-kun, I'll have my sign chilling by the Foot of the High Wall bonfire and we'll head through Onionbro's questline.

>>146661035
Now that we've killed greatwood, I wont be able to summon you again until the halfway fortress; meet me there!

>>146661117
Just use a seed of the giants and I'll use a red sign soapstone anon.

I'll try to be careful with the friendly fire

>>146661031
Nice picture, thanks for the free karma.

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>>146658356
>>146658480
>>146658561

Anon from yesterday that wanted to do co-op here.

I'm still doing the dried finger playthrough if you want to join.

https://discord.gg/uvrV6 We'll be at the dilapidated bridge.

Nth for Sulyvahn probably killed Priscilla.

>not a single good stream to watch while going through the game for the 30th time
man this game is deader than dead

>>146661390
At least it's not Dark Souls 2

Thanks god.

Can you imagine what would happen if somebody somewhere is playing that shit game? I get goosebumps just imagining that. But it can't happen right?

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>>146660747
>Spells work different from DaS1/3 therefore they are shit
Great combustion has huge lingering AOE. You can mix up fire snake with chaos storm, great combustion with fire whip with forbidden sun and dance of fire with outcry. You can use dance of fire to make people roll into you and follow it up with melee or great combustiom.
Not what you would bother to learn any of it. You only play as a mage in das2 to prove that it's shit, so you will prove that it's shit.
Pyro is the easiest element to resist from because it doesn't require anything but attunement from pyromancer.

>>146661460
At least das2 was alive. das3 was the icing on the shit cake of dark souls milking.

>>146661462
Can you please stop posting clips/images or talk about that game? It's triggering me. Just talk about Dark Souls 3. PLEASE.

>>146661308
Faith-kun here

if my helper wants to, I can play one of my other chars and we can help you togeather

>>146660874
Dragonrider bow. Scales well with strength.

>>146661462

Man that floaty movement and that spinner build looks just awful.

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>>146661462
>mix up
This is like a last line of defense for ds2 tards when you tell them about how shit spells in that game are individually.
It still won't work on anyone remotely competent thanks to every spell having a retarded "BE WARY, I'M CASTING STUFF" animation for two seconds.
No DS2 pyromancy can match DS3's fire surge in effectiveness and utlity. No DS2 pyromancy can match DS3's unlocked fire orb play. No DS2 pyromancy is as good as a black flam significantly buffed with a last patch.

>>146661556
I know you're shitposting and all but what is there to talk about das3 at this point? That it's shit? That its glaring flaws are mostly in its system and that can't be fixed unless they completely rework the game from scratch? That fromsoft will not care enough to patch it so it can at least be playable like they did with das1 and 2 and even bloodborne because it's too much work? Or the fact that the game won't see changes before the dlc and that's the way the game is going to stay even after it? Just let it die.

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>>146661031
I'm very proud of this guy.
That is if my save data isn't corrupted from the ordeal I just went through last night. I wish I was playing DaS3 right now ;_;

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>>146661583
Alright, we'll be here waiting. Pw is "dsg".

Feel free to join us with the link. Steam voice-chat is ass.

>>146661462
from that point of view, outcry seems even more powerful

also, juutas is the streamer(RIP vageta311) I find bearable to watch

>>146661691
Just imagine a das2 shitters fighting a real elite das2 player ...

>Das2 shitter: I mixup my X with Y!!
>DaS3 elite: hehe ... too slow kiddo
>*rolls away* *chugs till full health*
>*unshealths offhand estoc*
>nothing personel ... nighty night kiddo
>masterfully R1 the das2 shitter to death

>>146661308
>>146661583

Yeah sure.

Going to hop in that discord.

Has poise been fixed yet?

>>146661926
Go back to your shitty game noob, poise is working as intended.

>>146661926
It's working as intended

Not the games fault you're shit

>>146661926

I don't know what you mean by "fixed", but it just works.

>>146661691
> every spell having a retarded "BE WARY, I'M CASTING STUFF" animation for two seconds.
Certain spells have absolutely similar casting animation. Like fire snake and chaos storm. Or dance of fire and outcry.
They did it on purpose.
> unlocked fire orb play
It's hard countered by rolling backwards.

When is first DkS3 DLC due? Thinking of grabbing season pass while its like £15.

>>146662080
In 5 years

Source: My dad is Miyazaki's wife's son

>>146662074
>Certain spells have absolutely similar casting animation
Telling you to absolutely similarly stay away till they cast it.
>It's hard countered by rolling backwards.
Watch DSME's pyro tutorials first.

>>146662184
>stay away
ohhh the counter to every single pyro in every single game who knew
jesus christ you dastards are fucking retarded

Anyone on PC have an unupgraded Dragonslayer Swordspear they'd be willing to part with?

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Why most forest invaders so suck in cooperation? Except mages/pyros who autistic enough to pull black knight and madman into middle of fight.
>>146656674
I still don't know how to use it. GS/Deep Soul is better

>>146662317
can you help me get Symbol of Avarice from one character to another?

>>146661462
>Pyro is the easiest element to resist from because it doesn't require anything but attunement from pyromancer

That's what makes casters very strong in das2 compared to 3. You can go hex or int and still have powerful pyromancy to back up your main spells.

Great combustion and lingering flame are God sends for a pure int build. One allows me to cast without having to worry about out rolling away constantly and the other allows me to trade anyone who gets into my melee range

>>146662259
Well you kinda can't just stay away against fire surge kite unless you want to be slowly chipped into oblivion.

>>146661961
>>146661980
>>146662007
thanks for confirming the game is still garbage

>open Pontiff shortcut
>invaded right before I could sit at the bonfire
>"fuck this guy, he'll have to find me"
>toast emote in Catarina set infront of the bonfire
>guy finds me
>toasts with me then BC's out
Is, is this what comfy gaming feels like?

>>146662537
Sure, no problem
Meet me at the highwall, pass will be trade

>>146662317
i got one,go high wall, pass dsgtrade

>>146662572
>he want Yhorm shield+lothric spear+wolf ring ebin meta
Wew.
HA > Poise

>>146661691
>No DS2 pyromancy can match DS3's fire surge in effectiveness and utlity.

Lingering flame nigga. Have you heard of it? It's probably the best damn Pyro in all of dark souls series. Only thing even comes close is 45 dex great combustion and dark flame from dark souls 1

>>146662259
the whole point of ds1/ds3 pyromancies is that they are either extremely fast or allow you to effectively punish rolling
good fucking luck just staying away from aggressive ds1 dexpyro

>>146662678
What does shield + spear have anything to do with poise?

>>146662739
Check wiki :)

>>146662679
You mean the spell that barely lasts what, 30 seconds, can be kited by rolling into it and immediately rolling out of it? It only had usage in a few specific places, in duels that shit is unusable as you can simply wait it out passively.

>>146662739
They both add poise.

>>146662739
yhorm's shield and lothric's spear have poise boosting attributes

>>146662739
That spear apparently has hyper armor

>>146662552
Yes you can. It deals almost no damage to shields, just hide behind the Black Iron Greatshield or Dragon Crest Shield. You don't even need to be in engage range, bring in a bow for roll shots.

>>146662690
They do the same thing in das2.

>>146662632
you'll have to put a white sign down

>>146662876
One sec, lemme go buy one

>>146662824
>They do the same thing in das2.
no you don't
have you missed the whole "combustion is slow as shit and you can't manually aim orb pyros" thing?
not to mention that aggressive play plainly doesn't exist in ds2

>>146662602

I usually respect hosts who don't have phantoms with them. Although this is rare to find because 99% of invasions are scaled phantom parties.

For those guys it's the obscuring ring CSS -one-shot treatment :^)

>>146662916
Combustion being slow is a lie. You don't need to manually aim orbs because the best orb has stupid tracking (forbidden fun) and fire snake is excellent at tracking too.

I hate DaS1 input queuing. I got killed because it thought the second old attack input had higher priority than the five backrolls I had pressed between that and the time my character was ready to take actions. Now I look like an R1 spamming faggot who got my ass parried all because I pressed R1 the moment I got stunned. I don't recall this ever happening when I was playing on console, but I may be misremembering. Is this a problem with DaS1 or SCP?

>>146662794
You are bad. Why do you I'll let you roll into my lingering flame for free? Do you think once it's out I'm not allowed to cast any other spells?

If you try that shit I'm going to CRYSTAL SOUL SPEAR your ass. You can NOT dodge both spells at once. If you try to kite away then that's exactly what I want as a caster is fucking room and space to free cast on you without you being all up my ass.

Lingering flame adds a ton of zoning control that no other spell gives in this game. Go ahead and run away from it. It's what I want. I want you to be in the other side of the room while I'm casting at you.

>>146662991
You're masher

>>146663003
Not him, but post webms. You sound like average dsg warrior

>>146662986
both sun and snake are hilariously easy to avoid
without manual aiming orb pyros lose their effectiveness completely
combustion is twice as slow as it is in ds2 and even given overall low speed of ds2 it's easy as shit to see and avoid unlike in ds1