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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog general. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #486 - Dead as Fuck Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments
SEGA Confirms New Sonic Project Coming 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sega-confirms-new-sonic-project-is-coming-in-2017/

Sonic Humble Bundles
https://www.humblebundle.com/sonic-25th-anniversary-bundle
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/sonic-comics-bundle

Tons of Unseen Sonic Concept Art Revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/lots-of-unseen-concept-art-of-sonic-and-company/

Sonic: Mega Drive First Look, Sequel Revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/first-look-at-sonic-mega-drive-1-reveals-sequel/

Sonic Boom Fire & Ice E3 Trailer
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sonic-boom-fire-ice-e3-trailer/

Runners is Dead.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-runners-shutting-down-next-month/

Sonic is joining the cast of LEGO Dimensions!
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/09/sonic-hedgehog-joins-lego-dimensions/

>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out for 3DS; WiiU on June 24. Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom

Previous thread: >>146606343

Don't die this time.
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Y'all need Bump.
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this is what happens when you let shitposters roam free
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What the hell europoors? You're suppose to keep this alive while we sleep.
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>>146642206
Oceania too. We failed :/
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Sonic 2017 will be a good game.

It HAS to be a good game.
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>>146642559
>Implying the Brits wouldn't be preoccupied with Muslim dick up their ass anyway.
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What is THE worst thing that could happen to this franchise?
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>>146643328
/sthg/
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>>146643328
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>>146643328
I was going to say if there was going to be a movie like people said, there's the high chance it's ruined by the "whole video games don't work with movies" thing, but then I saw this >>146643473
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Do you think Eggman knew Maria when he was younger? What do you think he thought of her, when he wasn't as evil? And what would he think of her now?
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Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uxTyBIaBVo
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>>146644769
just let it die
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>>146646231
If you want this thread to die then don't post. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
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>>146646997
>Implying my posts matter
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>>146647438
Then why haven't you left yet? Honestly, if you wanted this place dead, you would've been gone ages ago.

Me? Well it's more or less out of obligation. Sitting in my tabs in the hopes of something decent popping up now and then
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if the next game isn't Adventure 3 or something in the same fashion then the franchise is fucked. You idiots do realize that Sonic's been ass recently because he's taken a shitty comedic route to please those meme spewing pieces of shits right?
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>>146643719
> Be genius scientist kid Ivo
> Want nothing more in the world than to go live with your famous grandfather on the awesome space station
> He takes your useless sickly know-nothing cousin instead
> The two of them pose in photographs from his lab and send them to you
> [Resentment Intensifies]

She's the reason he fucking turned evil
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>>146648031
So be it. Maybe it's time to move on from this series anyway.
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>>146648254
being a cuck about it isn't helping.
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Is Sonic CD really free on mobile right now? I cant find it on the google play store
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http://nintendoeverything.com/sega-on-sonic-being-linked-to-nintendo-and-collaborating-with-the-company/

>“When SEGA stopped making hardware and just started doing software, the first platform that we released Sonic on was a Nintendo console. We felt from the very beginning, that the Nintendo platforms were where the passionate Sonic fans were. Historically that is where our relationship started with Nintendo. Unfortunately, the Wii U didn’t manage to get as many gamers on the hardware as we would have liked. That was unfortunate for Sonic because we didn’t get the mass of people to enjoy the content. But Nintendo has always been a great partner, we have Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, Sonic in Super Smash Bros… we really appreciate the work that they do.”

Eggman confirmed for Smash 4 NX.
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>>146653163

bouncing triggers Metal Sonic
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>tfw waking up to find /sthg/ lying on the floor dead
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/sthg/ - pessimism and whiny emo faggotry
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I want to hug Sally.
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>>146654128
Let me guess, you're supposed to be happy about whatever garbage this franchise shits out of it's ass and eat it up with no hesitation or else you're a thing from 2003?
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How do we make Sonic great again?
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>Rouge, this is Commander Tower.
>Infiltrate enemy fortress, Eggmanland.
>Destroy the final weapon, Omelette Gear.

>... Omelette Gear?!
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>>146655467
Speaking of Metal Gear, are there any TECHNOLOGY moments in Sonic?
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>>146655445
Kill it
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>>146642426
It won't be. Don't don't get your hopes up, it'll only lead to disappointment
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>>146655595
None that come to mind. I think there might be some Mode 7 in Sonic CD, but probably not.
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>>146641707
>>146642206
>>146643328
>>146654694
Who are these OCs?
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>>146636118

what type of bad pr have they had?
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Sonic 25th Anniversary planning! Characters our Sonic series has emerged as a leading role in the turnover, one - shot series comics. It will deliver in conjunction with the character introduction column. Every week, scheduled to be updated on Friday!

http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/comic/25th/20160624_001047/


Next week is the Babysitter
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>>146657752
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>>146655139
>>146655624
Why do you guys come here when you clearly don't like sonic?
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Why did you even make a new general?
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>>146658398
I like Sonic when it's good. It hasn't been good in a while. I want it to be good again but it seems like it's not going to do that. A franchise that isn't good doesn't need to exist. Therefore Sonic should either die entirely or go the Pachinko route for guaranteed money
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>>146657752
>>146658249
It's the kind of comedy I expect from Japan
nonexistent
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>>146658652
Nonexistent? You mean the kind of quality to expect from Sonic nowadays
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>>146657752
>>146658249
Cute.
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>>146641598
>pessimistic emofags are still here
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>>146657752
>Babysitter
SEGA NO
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>>146658526
Fuck off.
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Where were you when Little Planet was discovered for real?
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>>146659920
They'll leave eventually to continue cutting themselves and cry some more.
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>>146660505
I'm reminded of that unfinished Bump model every time I see this
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>tfw hate emos
>tfw secretly love goth girls
They're cute!
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>>146660763
Goth Sonic girls?
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>>146661017
Gothic Amy
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>>146660763
Emo and goth are two different things. Goth girls can be very cute.

>>146661138
Post more cute goth girls.
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>>146661221
If Honey wore all black, she'd be wearing gothic lolita.
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>general died while Burgers were asleep
You tea-suckers had ONE job
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There needs to be more reptile mobian.
There's like 4.
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>>146662721
They're too busy kicking white Europeans out of their country so they can fill it with more blacks and Muslims from the Commonwealth, give them a break.
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>tfw the current generation of kids are being taught that sonic was tryhard and edgy
but he was cute!
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>>146662830
Of what species?
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>>146662721
But anon, I stayed up until 6am and drew a Julian for you, it wasn't my fight to fight anymore.
Blame another country.
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How is fast the hog : rio edition doing ?
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Thoughts on Sonic Triple Trouble?
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>>146664035
The only Yuros I know in this general are Bongcounters, unless there's anyone else I'm missing.

>>146664619
Best Game Gear game. Sunset Park Act 3 has one of the best boss themes of the series.
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>>146647745
>Implying I don't want to see Sonic die with my own eyes

>>146662721
It's coffee you fuckwit
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>>146665076
>The emofag is back
I won't let you win.
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>>146664269
I want to fuck that 40 year old Enchilada.
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>>146665241
Nah not emo
Eggman is just much better
>implying I left
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Okay, I get that Eggman's plan in 06 is to use the Flames of Disaster to take over the world.
... where does the time machine come in?
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>>146665498
When you are trying to get rid of certain pets
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>tfw i still want to make sonic great again
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>>146665498

getting rid of pesky hedgehegs
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>>146665651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd_PVoDCvd8

:^)
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>>146665643
>>146665702
Sure, that's what he ended up using it for. But I can't believe he didn't have the machine built already for some purpose other than banishing his prisoners.
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>>146665289
She a cutie, ain't she ?
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>>146666406
Who's that OC?
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>>146666535
Kill this meme
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>>146659920
>>146660475
>Le emo meme
Ebin
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>>146667839
Who's THAT OC?
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>>146667840
>being an emo whining pessimist do-nothing sack of shit
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>>146667840
When all you do is cry, whine, and act like a pessimistic faggot, we are going to assume you're an emo. You're the only one here who wants to have a pity party.
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>>146668076
>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN XD
I bet you call anyone who doesn't lick up whatever shit Sega drops down your throat "emo". Enjoy having no standards whatsoever
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>>146667839
gracias
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>>146668661
>Look everyone, I'm projecting
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>>146668758
That's all your argument has been. "I SWEAR SONIC CAN BE GOOD AGAIN. Y-you just watch!"
Pathetic. You think anyone who realizes how bad things really are is "emo"
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>>146667840
>Le
>Curre-
>Ever
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>>146668857
No shit sonic hasn't been doing so well lately, but you expect sonic to make a revolutionary game like Mario 64 or Ocarina of time to be considered good again which is incredibly retarded.
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>>146668857
>Pathetic. You think anyone who realizes how bad things really are is "emo"
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>>146667839
Sally is looking kind of odd.
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Hey could someone post the reasons we think sa3 is gonna happen
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>>146669180
It is written.
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>>146669180
Sonic Adventure 3 is a meme like half-life 3 is.
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>>146669180
>Hey could someone post the reasons we think sa3 is gonna happen
>the reasons we think sa3 is gonna happen
>we think
>we
it's just you and some other delusional faggots
there's no we
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How much autism does this general have?
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>that emo shitposter
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>>146669124
I expect Sonic to make a good game again, which granted, is probably retarded to expect. I should set my expectations a lot lower, you're right
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>>146669448
Someone broke the shaker again.
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>>146663195
Any.

We have Vector, Espio and Mordred and Lyric.
Sonic needs more lizards
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>>146669448
Not much, this place is nothing like deviantart or anything. This is the only good place to talk about sonic so sit back and enjoy yourself. Also, don't feed the emo shitposter.
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>>146669650
>This is the only good place to talk about sonic so sit back and enjoy yourself.
>The only good place
>/sthg/
>Good
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>>146669843
Compared to other sonic sites, this place is god tier
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>>146669957
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>146669843
Sthg is literally my favorite topic in the general

Utg is all gay goats
Wowg is attention whores
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>>146670023
Despite a very whiny dedicated shitposter, this general is pretty good.
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>>146670193
Look at the previous threads. "good" is very, very relative, and if this place is considered good I'd hate to see the other generals
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>>146670254
It's just one shitposter derailing the general
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>>146670254
>I'd hate to see the other generals
They generally all consist tripfags and circlejerks and are absolutely worse than /sthg/.

This place is also a hell of a lot better than other sites, like Sonic Stadium or, shudder at the thought, the SEGA forums.
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>>146670509
Fair enough
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>>146670509
Yeah, a bit ago we had a shitposter who was on an anti amy crusade and got bored. The emo shitposter will get bored sooner or later.
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>>146651902

>We felt from the very beginning, that the Nintendo platforms were where the passionate Sonic fans were.

It was where the worst of the worst, were. The people who were VERY happy that Sonic and Mario were on the same platform. The people who called for SONIC WITH A GUN PLEASE!, the people who then did an about face and said the problem was with sonic's friends. These people wrecked the sonic fandom for years and years.

Should have stuck with Playstation or Xbox or just kept as neutral as possible.
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>>146670254

To be fair, if this was anywhere else, the people arguing would have been banned after a couple posts. And most likely, only one of them would have been, the one with the "Wrong" opinion.

As much as we allow shitposters to shitpost, it's better than chilling any discussion by banning "wrong" thoughts like other forums. And other generals are just tripfag circlejerks, which we've been good about avoiding.
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>>146641707
>>146642206
Bump is a cute.

CUTE!
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>>146670754
>emo
i just can't get over this. i remember that around a decade ago this was a pretty common insult but the last time i even heard the term "emo" was back in 2010 or early 2011.

are you some sort of time traveller?
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>>146672913
>stop calling me emo!
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>>146672913
>are you some sort of time traveller?
Honestly, considering his posts, that makes way too much sense
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>Sonic
>Post 06 Shadow
>Blaze
In current canon would there be anyone who could even stand up to that kind of team?
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>>146673194
no i'm genuinely intrigued, it's fascinating to see someone use terms that haven't been heard of for years in such a natural way
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>>146670842
please don't post this pasta again.
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>>146674045
>i said stop calling me emo!
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Does anyone have a mirror for Chao World Extended 7.3? Chao Island has been down for the past few days.
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>>146673939
>Eggman
>Eclipse
>Erazor Djinn
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>>146674181
>O-only one person can disagree with me
I'm not sure whether this is hilarious or just plain sad
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>>146674045
>I'm not emo guys!
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Someone post the sequel to the Tails comic and just end it already
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>stop using the word "emo"!
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Sonic was never good and anyone who likes his games are delusional fucktards who have never played a good platformer, much less a good game in their lives
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>>146674287
Quit being an emo pessimistic fag
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@146674628
not even getting a (you) from me, also go back to youtube
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>>146674738
Please tell me how a game series is good when only a select few games allow me to actually go fast instead of stopping every few seconds to do awkward platforming, and the ones that let me go fast are uncontrollable while also somehow taking no skill whatsoever
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>Why no m'lady, Sonic was in fact never good.
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>>146674259
>Sonic and Shadow both can beat him
>Shadow again could kick his shit in
>Erazor
>Not Merlin
She'd be the only mage who could hold her ground against Blaze's magic. Erazor needed the mcguffin to even attempt to fight Sonic in a 1 on 1 because sonic can shot on his vase form.

MAYBE Emerl could take them on. But as it stands unless Eggman unleashes every single diety in the past games all at once I don't think there'd be anything that could stop them.
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>>146674897
>I can't back up my argument so I'll use le fedora meme instead am I cool guys
I knew Sonic fans were retarded, but I didn't think it'd be this bad
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@146674871
>WAHHHH WHY CANT IT LET ME GO FAST AUTOMATICALLY
>WAHHHH WHY IS IT LETTING ME GO FAST AUTOMATICALLY
fuck off back to /v/
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>why won't sonic let me go fast! it's not fair!
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>>146675040
>>146675117
When a series built around going fast doesn't allow you to go fast, it failed the one thing it was supposed to do and therefore it's bad. I get that you've only ever played Sonic games and don't know what a good game is like, so I suggest you fix that
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@146675160
>i am bad at the game therefore i blame the game
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>>146675239
>Anything I disagree with is bait!
>>146675282
>The games aren't bad! Y-you're just bad
You're really resorting to that argument, huh?
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@146675359
>I'm not bad! T-the games are just bad!
You're really resorting to that argument, huh?
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>>146675458
>Parroting my argument but just switching the words
You're not even trying anymore. But then again it takes little to no effort to show how bad these games are. I think 06 speaks for itself. And Heroes. And Shadow. And Rise of Lyric. And the countless other terrible games
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@146675561
your arguments are garbage
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God the emofag shitposter is so predictable, it's pathetic.
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Who /lurk/ here?
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>>146675617
Your franchise is even worse
>>146675651
God the delusional fanboys this franchise spawns are so predictable, it's pathetic
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>>146675651
>God the emofag shitposter is so predictabl
No, this is some butthurt Mariofag who got bulleid by Sonicfags like us
>>146675675
you enjoying my shitposts?
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Time for Sega forums!
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>>146675675
Just waiting for this to all blow over. Like it always does.
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You know it gets to a point when you're also shitposting.

The problem is idk who started the shit flinging first.
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@146675715
>Anyone who isn't circlejerking that every post Dreamcast sonic game is as bad as sonic 06 is a delusional fanboy
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@146675715
your mom is even worse
>>146675827
the guy who said "sonic was never good!" meme did just that
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I wonder what happened to that Tail rapist poster?
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>>146675862
No, everyone who thinks the Sonic games were EVER good is a delusional fanboy
>>146675917
>Ur mom lol
This is just sad
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>>146675745
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@146675981
what games do you like
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So what is your greatest accomplishment in a Sonic game? Mine is getting all of the S-ranks in Sonic Lost World (the Wii U version).
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@146675981
Can you try to be original when shitposting
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>>146676025

>>146676098
I 100% all Sonics.
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>>146675981
> No, everyone who thinks the Sonic games were EVER good is a delusional fanboy
I know this is bait, but I'll bite. Please, explain your reasoning, I'm genuinely curious.
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>>146676183
Who's THAT OC?
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>>146676183
Who's that OC?
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>>146676098
Getting all A's in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 across multiple Platforms such as Dreamcast then Gamecube then both Xbox 360 and Ps3 and then PC.
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>>146676234
>>146676238
I'm seeing double, four shitposts!
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>>146676234
>>146676238
OCmind
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>>146676224
See >>146674871
The games are supposed to be about going fast but they stop you every 5 seconds to do slippery, awkward platforming
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>>146676198
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>>146676354
It's a platforming game anon, if you want hold right to win play sonic advance 2
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@146676354
It's a momentum-based platforming game
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>>146676473
It's a game where you're supposed to be going fast, and slow as fuck platforming isn't fast
>>146676501
Too bad momentum barely plays into it when you're just waiting for platforms to move or making slow jumps with slippery as fuck controls
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@146676354
git gud
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>>146676375
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>>146675160
>When a series built around going fast
It isn't, so you're wrong from the very beginning.
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@146676539
It's not awkward when you git gud
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>>146676354
> game stops you to force you to platform
I think you missed the point of speed-based platforming, anon. You need to git gud, then try again.
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I love this person's art
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>>146676567
>>146676375

These are right though
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@146676539
You don't have to go fast, that's purely a choice
You can blast through them, take your time and platform, speedishly platform, explore the area, etc
You don't have to wait for platforms to move, you can quickly hop across the platforms to get to the next area, it's what I do.
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>>146676098
100% all the classic Sonics, but the hardest one by far was getting all the S-ranks in Sonic Transformed.
I haven't played it since doing it, it was fucking awesome but I've played all I can play I think.
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>>146676551
>>146676634
>>146676665
>The games aren't flawed. Y-you're just bad
I guess Bubsy's a good game too and I just need to git gud since that apparently excuses all flaws
>>146676601
Then why is it called "Sonic". Does "Gotta go fast" mean nothing to you? His entire character and franchise is "fast" so having games where you can't do that makes it shit
>>146676703
>The core concept of Sonic is a choice
Also trying to platform when going fast is impossible because of the terrible controls so you have to take your time or else you'll just keep dying either from pits or enemies you can't see coming so you can't avoid them
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>>146676567

>>146676672
Feel free to think that.
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@146676812
It's not impossible, you're not just very good at it. You'll get good some day.
>it's the core concept guy
Oh. Do I have to post it again?
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>>146676838
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>>146676914
Anon, just stop giving him any attention.
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>>146676914
You keep using the argument of "The game's not bad you're just bad" even though that's a terrible defense of any game
>Core concept guy
Who? I'm just saying that the theme of Sonic is going fast and all the games are supposed to be built around that, which they aren't. Except the boost games but those have awful controls
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>>146676567
>Nintendo fans like alternate gameplay styles
Or maybe Sega likes shoehorning alternate gameplay styles into their games. Seriously, even fucking Generations had alternate gameplay styles, don't go ignoring that in order to bolster your shitty argument. Who ever made that post must be remarkably stupid.
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>>146641598
You really shouldn't have made a new thread.
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Thoughts on Sonic being in LEGO Dimensions?
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>>146677182
It may just be the first good game Sonic will ever be in outside of Smash Bros
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>>146677018
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>>146676812
Bubsy is a bad game all around and if you're trying to compare the two, you need to try harder.

But, fuck me. It's a decent Sunday and I'm stuck inside arguing with a shitposter instead of enjoying the sun.
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>>146676669
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Sometimes you need to just stop responding.

http://theweek.com/articles/484765/madeup-minds
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>>146677337
>Bubsy is a bad game all around and if you're trying to compare the two, you need to try harder.
You're right, I shouldn't insult Bubsy like that
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>>146677182
Should be good.
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>>146677297
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>>146677182
I'm mostly indifferent about it. Sonic looks a bit weird as a Lego, his torso looks way to big. Aside from that, I really want to see what kind of story they'll do with him.
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>>146677396
Who are those OCs?
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Alright guys I'm going out
ignore the shitposting faggot
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>>146677564
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>>146677564
Will do sir :)
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>>146677337
You don't Argue with shitposter while out the beach using your smartphone ?

bleh, small fry.
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>>146677564
Who's that OC next to Sonic?
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>>146677751
>Toes
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>>146677182
I don't think I had heard about that game before Sonic was announced to be in it, and I don't really think it's for me. It feels like it's another promotion to get more people to know Sonic, sort of like what they did with Angry Birds, so I think this could end up being good for the franchise, but it's a shame it has to happen at this moment, where newly interested people don't really have much to go look at.
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Thoughts on Lucy?
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>>146677942
Literally who?
>>146677907
Nice OC! Did you make her yourself?
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>gamefags in such a complete state of despair that they are constantly attacking eachother like rabid animals

if the next game turns out to be shit there will be deaths
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>/sthg/ right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeSet3G8mkY
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>>146678000
Nice trips, did you roll them yourself?
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>>146677476
It's time to stop
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>>146678000
She's a cute girl
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>>146678063
>When the next game turns out to be shit there will be deaths
FTFY
>>146678114
Yes I did
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>>146676098
I... don't really have any kind of accomplishment in Sonic games that I can boast about... I barely have played them.
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>>146678178
CRAWLLING IN MY SKIN
THESE PESSIMISTIC FEELINGS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAALLLL
WHINING IS HOW I FALLLLL
CONFUSING WHAT IS REAL
HOAAAHHHH
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>>146678063
It's gamefaqs anon, nothing of value will be lost.
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>>146678283
You're actually this mad people aren't blindly excited for the next game Sega will shit out. Amazing
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>>146677372
I love that illustration so much.
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this thread is worse than 476
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>>146678452
Nice drawing anon
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>>146678569
I hope it gets better during the week.
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Post legendary Sonic music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3JKrFEv-U
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>>146678530
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>>146678591
Glad you like it. I didn't draw it though. Managed to track down the source: http://amungungungi.deviantart.com/art/Tails-and-Cosmo-89930829
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>>146678816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOEvlJVjnF0
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>>146678816
https://youtu.be/Oc81dfPGdh4
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What are you listening to, /sthg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
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>>146676838

I will think that. If Lost World was good, Nintendofags would push for SEGA to sell Sonic to Nintendo.

Nintendofags ruined sonic, and continue to do so. Allowing them to fester in our fandom is the worst thing you can do. We need a Nintexit.
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>>146676601
Of course Sonic is built around going fast. It's HOW HE GOES FAST that's important.

Is Sonic going fast because you, the player, have mastered the physics to the point where you can manipulate the terrain to bolster your speed to even greater heights...

or is Sonic going fast because of the player's ability to hold down the X Button?

That is the distinction that Sonic Team fails to understand.

>>146676812
Gotta go fast is a meme, not a design philosophy.
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>>146679326
>Gotta go fast is a meme, not a design philosophy.
Tell that to the people who made Sonic in the first place, because that's what he was designed to do
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NEON LIGHTS
NOBEL PRIZE
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>>146679235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32S2oJuANxo&list=RDMMyuTMWgOduFM&index=18

This is what came up on my playlist.
Filled with proper music most of the time, and Ecco comes along like whaddup.
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>>146679424
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>>146679424
> confirmed for not knowing what the fuck he's on about
Please just go.
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>>146679573
Why do you think nobody likes Marbel Zone or Labyrinth Zone
>>146679634
You don't know what you're talking about buddy. If you don't think he's about going fast you're not a fan
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>>146678816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXrVeiEXtYs
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I'M THE CULT OF PERSONALITY
THE CULT OF PERSONALITY
I AM THE CULT OF
I AM THE CULT OF
I AM THE CULT OF
I AM THE CULT OF
I AM THE CULT OF
PERSONALITY
ASK NOT, WHAT SONIC CAN DO FOR YOU
ASK YOURSELF, WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR SONIC
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>>146679704
Fuck, meant for >>146679235
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>>146675282
>@146675160
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LOOK IN MY EYES
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
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>SEGA Confirms New Sonic Project Coming 2017
>Focus on the word 'project'
Maybe it's the movie?
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>>146679703
You said that the design philosophy behind the people who originally made sonic was that the game was all about speed.

The marble zone was made by the original sonic team.

the marble zone is not all about speed.

Thus, the original sonic team's design philosophy was not all about speed.

Whether or not people liked the marble zone or not is irrelevant.

This is my last reply to you.
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http://www.tssznews.com/2016/06/26/amazon-leaks-out-sonic-championship-megamix-for-the-3ds-includes-the-1st-5-screenshots/

HOLY FUCK
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>>146680049
It goes against the original design philosophy. Therefore Marble Zone is shit and shows they had no idea what they're doing
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>>146679962
>giving that shitposting autistic cuck a (you)
"No"
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Sonic 1 was a platformer that had a focus on speed to offer a unique point against Nintendo's mascot.

Levels like Marble Zone represent the platforming side more than the speed side.
It's still a terrible level regardless.
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>>146680084
>http://www.tssznews.com/2016/06/26/amazon-leaks-out-sonic-championship-megamix-for-the-3ds-includes-the-1st-5-screenshots/
So fake and gay
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>>146656424
They're named Pissju Hoff.
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>>146679424
Once again, yes. Sonic was designed to go fast. I'm not refuting that. It is a major part of his character.

What I'm saying is that asinine meme phrase is hurting Sonic more than you think. E-celebs spouting "GATTA GO FATHT LEL SAAANIC" has become so ingrained into the community and the marketing that I fear that it's hurting the brand as a result.

"Gotta go fast" implies that Sonic should be moving fast at all times, regardless of the player's input.
>If he's not going fast, then it's not Sonic.
That's the sort of black-and-white thinking that's resulted in the increase in auto-run sections and scripted sequences that players have come to hate so much, yet they turn around and perpetuate this meme all the same.

That phrase came from 4Kids, for god's sake. That should be a red flag in-and-of-itself.
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>>146680512
https://youtu.be/arduMnVfh_A?t=2m49s
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>>146680512
Yeah, and it's a great phrase to describe what Sonic's all about too, the source doesn't matter. "If he doesn't go fast, then it's not Sonic" is the mentality Sega should fucking have
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>it's a girl falls in love with Sonic episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBxUIzsrTg
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>>146680847
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>>146680921
Lucky Sonic.
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>>146680779
I agree somewhat in the advent of Lost World and Boom, but we should still be wary of HOW Sonic should go fast, lest we get yet another game that's nothing but these fuckers.
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>>146681017
Lucky Eggman

Must draw some Maddypants
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>>146681140
BOOST PAD! WHOO!
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>>146681140
BOOST PAD
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>>146681140
Really, the ideal way to make a Sonic game would be cutting the platforming entirely and making it like F-zero where it's less about platforming and more about going fast, dodging shit, and pulling crazy bullshit. That's what Sonic should be
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Should Boost come back or will they try something else?
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>>146675745
That's not an unreasonable question.
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>>146680684
This was a good episode.

Another goodie: https://youtu.be/rHnvabYk40Q
Tails encasing robotnik & co. in cement is pretty savage.
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>>146681301
I agree with the racing game concept, but platforming is often an obstacle the player needs to deal with in order to go fast.
A good level would let you avoid the platforming via alternative routes for a better time, whereas missing those routes will take you through platforming thus a slower time.
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>>146681324
They've already confirmed that they're done with boost. Expect the next mainline game to play like a modified Lost World.
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>>146681369
>>146675745
I think the key difference between the two is that the collectables in those games weren't necessary to finish the level. While in Sonic Adventure you had to go through all the nooks and crannies to finish.

I don't know, maybe we're just biased.

>>146681380
The 'Grounder you're as dumb as a rock' line is one of my favourites from the whole show.
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>>146678874
Asshole, that shirt belongs to Shadow.
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So I almost got shot and stabbed today at the zoo. But what's going on here. Looks like I missed a lot of shitposting.

Wish there was a Pronghorn at the zoo. Only Kenyan impala.
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>>146682342
>So I almost got shot and stabbed today at the zoo.

Are you okay anon?

What happened?
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>>146682342
Well now you have to tell us.
You alright anon?
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>>146681509
No, platforming is what holds Sonic back. Make him into a level based racing game, that'll make it good
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>>146682521
Your opinions are terrible.
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>>146682342
I didn't know Gorillas could use 4chan.
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>>146682521
And we should give him a backpack and make him vulnerable
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>Uekawa signed stuff at the Joypolis event
>you will never get anything signed by him
>you will specially never get anything drawn by him
why live
Do any of you faggots have anything done by him/signed by him?
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>>146682795
That faggot is an idiot
>>146682651
But I'm right though
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The party can't come soon enough
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>get inspired by Big's levels in Sonic Adventure
>No seriously I like the levels, they're cosy
>decide to try shit out
>have unreal anyway
>decide just to mess around and see what I can make

Holy shit this stuff's hard. Only wanted continuous moving traffic why do you do this to me.
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>>146684548
Keep at it. Don't end up like a lot of other fangames and die.
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>>146681509
>>146682521
the problem is that traditional platforming brings sonic down since you have to slow down for it when you just want to go faster.

sonic levels should be built more like giant skate parks where you can gather speed by jumping between ramps. by doing that you can bring depth and skill into going fast while removing the need for traditional platforming.
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>>146685056
This too. I didn't even think of that, but Tony Hawk would be the perfect model for an actual Sonic game.
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>>146685365
That picture is Skate 3 which has actual physics, Tony Hawk doesn't focus on speed.

Though I would like a Sonic skateboarding game, maybe a new Riders game with better trick system.
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>>146685540
Oh, right, Skate. Yeah that'd work too I guess
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Are people forgetting that at the time of release sonic the hedgehog was the fastest platformer there was?
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>>146685613
Butt cake sounds delicious
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>>146685056
>Skate is kill
>Tony Hawks died a horrible death
S-so here I am...
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>>146685056
>>146685365
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>>146685715
It also had levels, like Marble Zone, that pretty much completely went against the speed aspect.
It was a mixed bag and why Sonic 1 is one of the weaker games in the series.

>>146685738
RIP extreme sports games
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>>146684978
I'll keep trying, it'll be years down the line if I ever make anything and it won't be that good, but who knows.
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>>146685613
I want a pic of Sage licking cake off of Bump's bumps.
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>>146685715
Yeah, but the platformer part is a problem.
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>>146682437
>>146682482
>>146682750

Basically it's packed for parking at the zoo. I'm waiting for this guy to pull out. This woman drives past me and takes the spot and cuts me off. I roll down the window and tell her it was rude of her. She says she didn't see me, which was a lie since she was behind me and we get into an argument. Her husband comes out, tall guy with gold teeth and her two children, she starts flipping out and throwed her baby's bottle at me and calling me a Crack head and all that shit. Children start crying and her husband starts to take something out of his pocket. Thankfully security was watching the whole thing and threw her ass out and I got into the zoo for free.

I was going to get all fighting freak Knuckles on her but it wasn't worth it.
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>>146685898
>>146686032
What sonic game would you say is an example of what you want to see in sonic?
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>>146686216
Sonic Dash. I'm serious, it's got the best gameplay and if you just made that into a full console experience with actual levels and shit it'd be a good game
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>>146686382
But anon. That what Sonic Boom was and look at it now.
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>>146685842
neat. the physics seem a bit too simplistic though and the fov change tries way too hard to make it look like you're going faster than you are. but i wish the games would go in this direction
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>>146687043
No it wasn't. It was a boring as fuck generic action game. And it was a lot more platforming than speed
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>>146687079
Thanks. The full project should be releasing in a few weeks. Keep an eye out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjGQCbJ5Lo
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>>146687378
you're the dev?
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/sthg/ should make our own sonic game in UE4 or something.
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>>146687809
Yessir. Here's the teaser for the project if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woL8_OxLKAY

>>146688046
There is an Unreal 4 Sonic engine in the works, but the physics do not look up to snuff just yet. It seems as though the developer is more concerned with making it look pretty than making it feel like Sonic. Perhaps when it's released there will be more tweaking done by users to make it feel more fluid and natural.
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>>146686146
Free zoo though.
Hope you're doing alright now man.
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>>146688428
Here's the other project in development by Chaos Force Studio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAt4ksxjdE

I have high hopes for it, though I fear that it just won't feel very polished upon release.
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>>146688428
That looks fucking sweet man.
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>>146686146
Shit nigger, I thought you said you were at the parking lot not that you were already inside the zoo and somehow got inside the animal's cages.

>her husband starts to take something out of his pocket
What the fuck
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>>146688428
Kick ass
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>>146688046
/sthg/ can't even make a good general and you want to make a game?
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>>146689190
>One or two shitposters means the general is bad
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>>146688878
Thanks! Cute pic. I figured I'd drop a shot teaser on Sonic's 25th before spending a bit more time polishing and refining.

>>146689013
My testers seem to think so as well. I'm excited to share it with you all when the time is right.
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>>146688428
Looks great anon!
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>>146689332
Means a lot. Thanks.
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>tfw no marble zone redone in 3D like Green Hill paradise
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>>146689303
That doesn't really matter, do you think it's been good lately?
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>>146689684
Ooooh. That'd be tricky! Maybe in another 4 years. Heh.
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>>146689736
The 25th anniversary threads were some of the best we've ever had
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>>146689736
I got nothing to complain about
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>>146689873
Reminds me of some q3 engine games that had crazy trickjumping maps.
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>>146689873
How long did Green Hill Paradise Zone take?
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>>146689927
That anniversary stream was awesome. We should stream stuff more often.
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>>146690204
>tfw I was SanicTheManic
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>>146688428
Looks lackluster
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>>146690094
The original? 3 months. Act 2? 9 months.

>>146690204
Hell yeah it was. I enjoyed watching that guy turn into a boat.

>>146690329
Could you be more specific?
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>>146690409
Typically it looks the same way Sonic Generation is. Sure it looks more varied but underneath all of that its the same typical thing.

Needs more variety.
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>you will never get your face sucked in
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>>146690589
She's eating him, and then she's going to eat me!
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>>146689927
Okay, I'll give you that, those were some nice threads and the Joypolis stream was kind of fun, but I feel like those were just isolated moments and most of the time it's crap and nonsensical.
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Post Sonic Underground
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>>146690828
Everyone pays attention to Sonic here but I'd just like to point out that Knuckles has fingers
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Juleel White is the best and only Manic.
Juleel White is the best Sonic followed by
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/sonic-the-hedgehog/sonic-the-hedgehog/

Ryan Drummond, Roger Craig Smith, Martin Burke, Sam Vincent, Jason Griffith and Meg Inglima

Kanemaru will always be the top tier Japanese voice of Sonic for eons to come.
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>>146689190
I rotated the picture before I uploaded it y'know, I'm sorry it sends sideways regardless.

Also someone saved my drawing happy days.
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>>146690589
Frames from old cartoons are fun.
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>>146691525
Was the budget to this show low or something, why was the animation (or the show in general) absolutely terrible?
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>>146691826
I wouldn't be surprised if the budget was even lower than that of Boom.
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>>146691826
Yes and it's exactly why. They blew all the budget on the opening. In terms of production value, it is the shittiest of the 3 90s cartoons, with Satam being the best.
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>>146691826
Animated by Hong Ying Studios in China.

There is a DVD extra somewhere saying Sega told them to redraw Sonic with a fourth (fifth) finger because of the whole 4=death thing in Japan.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/945572-sonic-unleashed/44954023

I imagine this would have affected it somehow.

Also, does anyone have this interview on video?
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>>146691716
Psssst you should draw Bump
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>>146692058
I'm not too great at drawing Bump but I'll give it a try.
Bump doing anything in particular?

Have a Julian while you wait.
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>>146692009
The 4=death thing is a Chinese superstition, not a Japanese one.
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>>146692276
Well, someone over there doesn't like four fingered hands.
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"YOU MIGHT KNOW EVERYTHING I AM GOING TO DO BUT THATS NOT GOING TO HELP YOU SINCE I KNOW EVERYTHING YOUR GOING TO DO. STRANGE ISN'T IT?"

Best Sonic line evuh.>>146691649
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>>146692258
Bumping Sage.
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>>146692258
Thanks
I have nothing specific at the moment, but go for something cute of course
Maybe some other anon will have a good idea
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Whew! That was a lot of fun!
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>>146692530
What games haven't you played yet?
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>>146692276
It's both.
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>>146692617
More than I care to admit...

Sonic CD is next on my list. I'll save that for next weekend, though.
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>Urkel voiced Sonia
>They couldn't hire a female voice actor
>They instead went with Jaleels "female" voice that he does for jokes in AoStH

Why.
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>>146693061
Do you have a stream or something?
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>>146693113
Budget
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Is there an official /sthg/ voting for which is the best voice actor for Sonic, Tails and Knuckles?
I like to see who reign up top.
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>>146693113
To save that 90s money.
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>>146693129
I do have streaming set up (for other reasons).

I wouldn't want to stream me playing games because I am absolutely terrible at them, though. Anyone who would watch my stream would have their time better spent elsewhere.
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Do the Japs actually like the Boom stuff?
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>>146693571
I too stream Sonic from time to time and the only time people watched was only when I did Sonic Battle.
Having shitty internet does not help.
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>>146693696
Who the hell knows at this point.
Do the Japanese have dedicated communities like the west?
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>>146693787
Not him but I streamed some Sonic Adventure 1 for /sthg/ recently. It went okay. I have no clue how the stream went though in terms of quality.

Currently at Gamma.
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>>146693839
Only for hentai and other things.
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>>146693959
I wonder how much of a time bonus you'd get for shooting the Chao
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So I finally read that SU arc with the "Wake up time, it's son for school" and as I had never played any of the Riders games...Jet and the rest of the birds are fucking Aliens?

Really?
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>>146694085
There is no time bonus. As soon as you get in range cutscene happens. Also Chao are not targetable.

Also I was thinking of Streaming the Beta demo of Bloodsteined Ritual of the Night. Since there would be more people interested in that then any other Sonic game made.
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>>146694308
Yeah. It's kind of weird, and I think that was established in either the first Riders or Zero Gravity
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>>146694308
Basically.
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>>146694308
"Wake up son, it's time for school"
Is what I fucking meant.
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>>146694380
I was making a joke famalam
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>>146694528
Yes shooting kids is a joke. Always have been in the USA
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>>146686146
Hope you're okay man
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>>146694643
But Chao aren't kids. They're... what the hell ARE chao anyways?
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>>146694781
Water beings. Made from purified Chaos Piss.

Tikal is right when she calls them children of Chaos.
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>>146694383
Only really liked the first game, the game felt a bit off at times but with a bit of polish it could've been something. Zero gravity ruined it for me, how was free riders?
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>>146694937
>Zero gravity ruined it for me, how was free riders?
>Free Riders
>Kinect exclusive racing game
What do YOU think?
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Chilidog goes where?
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>>146695093
DOWN HER THROAT
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>>146695259
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>>146695561
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>>146695049
The last one flew under my radar, I didn't know it was kinect.
Since you mention that I have the a good idea now, thanks!.
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"Moi? Faster then lightning, quieter then a mouse, I'm there and back before you know I'm even gone!"
"This is my competition? Couple of Slow-mo hoverheads? Man then I am wasting my time."
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(Citizens Panic)
Citizen #1: OH NO! IT'S ROBOTNIK!!
Doctor Eggman: (To Tails) So you beat me to the missile, you little pest. I will make you all pay for this. (flies up and drops down in the Egg Walker)
Citizen #2: LET'S GET OUT OF HERE!! (Screams)
Doctor Eggman: (To Tails) You fool. Away, before I make mincemeat out of you.
Miles "Tails" Prower: I'm not scared. I'm not scared! I can do this!

Eggman is at his best when he is a viable threat. When he is made of nothing but a joke. I take him less seriously time and time again. I want the murderous Doctor back. Not jolly for other characters jollies.
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>>146696904
He was pretty murderous in Generations and Lost World.
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>>146695860
Battle's early translations are surprisingly funny. I remember The Green Hill Zone (now that's an oldie!) has some more of these.
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>>146697060
Still looked like a joke to the rest of the cast. Even the Zeti themselves considered him to be a fool.
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So, there's a lot of people doing fan works for the franchise. You got animators, drawfags, people that make fangames, people that make conventions, news sites, and so on. Why the fuck don't we have more people that speak Japanese to translate the Japanese stuff? It seems we always struggle with that, even when it's something important we can't find people to translate.
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>>146697060
>Lost World
>"I'll destroy everything you love and make you watch!"
>"As long as I can still strangle a zeti my hands are fine."
Love seeing Eggman furious

>>146697374
Who is she mad at?
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>>146696904
>master plan fails
>simply resorts to nuking the entire city with him still in the blast zone
I honestly loved that about Advenure Eggman. Dude just didn't give a fuck anymore.
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>>146698192
Those are my favorite Eggman moments, when he just goes "fuck it,if I can't win nobody can", like the end of Worlds Collide
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>>146697754
Why don't you learn Japanese then, anon?
The answer to that is the same for everyone else.
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>>146698157
Who knows? It's just a still from the Japanese version's English option.
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Wait. I thought Gamma was re purposed to be Omega
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>>146698306
Nah, Omega's his own thing entirely. You're thinking of Emerl/Gemerl
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>>146698306

Omega is just another E-series bot.
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>>146698275
>The answer to that is the same for everyone else.
Why? I don't plan on organizing conventions yet some people do, for instance.
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>>146693696
More than the West, but Japan doesn't care much about Sonic overall, so it's not like there's a huge Boom fanbase that sprung up out of nowhere.
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What is the point of this character?
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>>146699023
To go fishing.
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>>146699023
Staying cool.
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>>146699023
Refreshing viewpoint I suppose. The POV of someone who doesn't know or care about Eggman/Sonic and just wants to do his own thing
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>>146699023
Something about Sonic Team wanting a more laidback character in comparison to the action packed cast. SEGA Bass Fishing was also doing pretty well at the time, so they incorporated that into his gameplay.
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>>146699023
Advertising the Dreamcast's fishing rod peripheral. Did anyone actually use this thing?
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>>146699023
Hey big guy
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>>146699023
comic relief, more variety, more merchandise opportunities (people love cats), something something Sega Bass Fishing
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Eggman was murderous in Sonic Colors
>forgetting about the wisp holocaust
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>>146699023
To be simply natural.
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>>146699289
Hey big guy
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>>146699220
I played Quake online with it.
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>>146699362
Hey little guy
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>>146699289
hey big guy
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>>146699401
I once played Metal Slug using the PS2's TV remote. Fun times
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>>146699140
Since Adventure started out as an RPG it makes sense to have as many different angles on the plot as they could come up with. Also explains having a robot as a playable character.
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>>146699023
To be Duke Nukems alter Ego
Big the Cool cat
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>>146692445
>>146692509
It's not that great, sorry, can't into bumps.
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>tfw there's a distinct lack of art being posted of E-123 Omega
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>>146699728
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HEY ALL
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Why can't we play as Emerl/Gemerl in Sonic Generations with Max Stats?

Its not fair
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>>146700926
You can play as Emerl with a mod.
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>>146699993
>This MACHINE is designed to SERVE you.
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>>146701007
But not max STATS is what he meant. Meaning fastest relfexes unlimited boost and automatic teleporting homing attacks.
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>>146699610
Thanks, anon.
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>he thinks the next game will be bad
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Was any Sonic character ever portrayed chewing gum?
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Does anyone have that webm of Big modded into 06 and using Omega's gatling guns please? Also is there a webm of that scene unmodded?
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>>146701327
Big
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>>146701327
Vector. Not only does he chew it, he can make it explode.
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>>146701349
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>>146701349
>that fat piece of organic crap using gatling guns
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>>146701164
I suppose it could be done, but it'd probably be a mess to play.
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I'm bored, /sthg/.

I feel like making a simple Tails fangame to burn some time. I'm a software engineer, not an ideas guy, though.

So, if anybody has any ideas/suggestions, do tell.

However, don't expect anything great...
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>>146703757
Tails Sudoku
Or an ZERO ESCAPE Tails edition game.
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>>146703757
Tails Adventure sequel
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>>146703757
How about a game where Tails has to land on a platform, avoiding obstacles and fighting the course of gravity. I guess like those old flash games people used to play on Miniclip or whatever.

The other suggestion would be a simple sidescroller.
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>>146703757

Miles Prower Pro Skater
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>>146703757
If it's something and you put your heart into it we'll like it regardless man.
Good luck!
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>>146703962
This is sort of my starting point, but it's a bit vague. I don't want to re-create tails adventure, because people can just play tails adventure.

IIRC, there are even rom hacks out there that fix the awful save system.

>>146704107
That sounds a little like those really (really) old games where you were trying to land on the moon. The name escapes me at the moment.
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>>146703757
Tails Adventure but where you can carry everything all at once plus more gadgets.
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>>146704216
Well it's really a sort of game where you're trying not to hit the wall or land too fast. Something that would require only using the directional pad and one button for 'lift'.
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>>146703757
Tails City Rampage

Just a reskin of Rampage but with Tails.
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>>146704454
That sounds like a growth fetish game to be honest.

As much as I love Rampage.
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>>146699023
He's a large fellow
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>>146701686
Where is this from, I mean is there a modded let's play out there? I can't really read what's at the bottom.
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>>146699610
Hey, thanks!
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>>146704674
Looks like the bottom says "MelpentreStreams!", if that helps.

>>146704341
Lunar Lander is the game that reminds me of. A re-skinned one of those is definitely a feasible possibility.

>>146704274
This looks like it would be do-able. I think if I were to make a successor to tails adventure, I would want to cut out the large amounts of backtracking. I remember that getting pretty tedious.
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>>146703757

A game like dungeon keeper, except with tails setting up defenses against eggman or Naugus/Witchcarters or G.U.N. or whatever
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>>146704786
No worries man, sorry it took a while, spent ages trying to draw a shaken sage but gave up and just had her head be boinged and whacked on to the table and get knocked out, but I'm no artist so I didn't plan well.
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>>146704674
>he doesn't know about Melpontro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_X8o2u1Zew
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>>146704997
This is an interesting concept. This reminds me of another idea that is admittedly too ambitious:
> tfw no sonic themed AOEII

I've also toyed with a zelda-like dungeon explorer in the past. It might work with tails, as he has a variety of gadgets. That would warrant a top down view (don't really want to go zelda 2's route...), so I'm not totally sure.
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>>146704876
>Lunar Lander is the game that reminds me of. A re-skinned one of those is definitely a feasible possibility.

Yeah, but add some more enemies and a maze maybe?

I suppose I could imagine something more ambitious but as you said it was only to burn time I don't want to over-tax you. Sorry if that makes me sound like I'm underrating you.
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>>146705246
No worries. Thinking about scope is extremely important for any project (especially a software project). Careful attention to scope can be the difference between success or not. Especially for a single dev like me.
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>>146705426
Indeed, having watched a lot of Scrapheap Challenge and episodes of The Apprentice I know that simple is nearly always better when you're short on time and resources.
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>>146705009
Don't worry about the time it took, and even if it's not like something drawn by a professional artist, I like to have art of them drawn by different people, so I appreciate it.
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>>146704704
>MUH PEOPLE
Hey, to be fair, every princess character damn well should be all about MUH PEOPLE. Otherwise, what's the point?
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Actually, now that I think of it, I could probably do the opposite of zelda 2, where the world exploring is done in a tails adventure like manner, and have levels be in a 2d top down manner.

Guess I'll just start with the world exploring part, which means essentially a clone of tails adventure, with some refinements. If I get that far and I'm not tired of the project/sidetracked, I'll add some more shit.

Thanks all for your help!

I won't ask anything else until I have something to show. At the moment I'm just a bag of hot air.
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>All those @
Is... is this a new meme I should be aware of?
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>>146706585
What engine do you plan on using?
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>>146706686
Just autists being autists is all.
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>>146706726
I plan on using a javascript framework (phaser looks pretty promising). I haven't decided yet, though. All I know is that I want to use html5 so that it's easy for me to share, as nobody has to download/install anything.

It'll also finally give me a use for my tails.rocks domain.
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So I just beat Adventure 1.
Well, I didn't 100% it as I see there is a Metal Sonic character in the steam achievements list.

Overall it was okay. Could have been done without Big or maybe even Gamma. Overall a solid 7/10 for me.

Now onto Adventure 2.
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>>146707243
I'm glad Mina's dead forever.
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>>146707664
If you didn't like Gamma, you're gonna have a bad time. Tails and Eggman's gameplay is even heavier and clankier than Gamma's. But you get big fat bat tats out of it, so it cancels out.

It's nice to get a critique from someone that has recently played the game instead of going off nostalgiafaggotry or bad memories.
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>>146707991
It's not that I didn't like it, it just felt out of place.
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>>146699728
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>>146708562
Maybe the anniversary story this year will actually be a quick run through of what happened in the new continuities' past?
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>>146708990
>smash that kid against a rock

Lewd.
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>>146699104
>>146699728
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>>146710251
Sounds really Mario for a Sonic character theme, but it's a good groove so I suppose that's okay.
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>>146711259
>hfw boom sonic shows up
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>>146711259
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>>146709234
Enjoy Genesis 2 which leads into Lost World
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>>146711639
Meant to quote >>146711337
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>>146711639
Blue arms
blue dick
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This is the best song from any and all sonic games. Prove me wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fFT_KpBJ8
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>>146712118
>LOOKS GOOOOD, DON'T IT?
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>>146712018
I can't. But I do have the second best song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SITtJDz5X0
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>>146676669
Thanks senpai. I want to draw more sanix soon
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>>146713525
Please do

I will, one day, draw you a Sally. And Remember your painting technique.
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>>146710251
Sounds more Donkey Kong then Mario-esque.
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>>146691826

Underground was a shitstorm from conception. Ben Hurst told the whole story about it years back. http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/features/ben_hurst/

(1/3)
>Hello fans of SatAm,

Sonic Underground was a sad, sad story. With the opportunity looming large for the third season of SatAm, DIC made a creative decision to trash that continuity and strike out in a new direction. The reason: because they could add songs with the whole Sonic, Sonia and Manic thing and collect extra residuals from ASCAP/BMI (the group that pays song royalties - DIC makes deals with songwriters to split or sign over the rights to their compositions - exactly the same way that they force the writers and story editors to sign over all rights to their stories.)

All residual payments for cartoons go to DIC - even the royalties set aside for creative people in Europe (based on blank videotape and audio cassette sales). There have been legal battles about that (through the Writer's Guild), but the only reputable animation producer in America (to my knowledge) to hand those monies over to the writers - was Warner Brothers. I've actually received royalty checks from the European release of episodes that Pat Allee and I wrote for "Tiny Toons."

Here's how Sonic Underground happened. After SatAm was canned because of a change in leadership at ABC and low ratings caused by multiple pre-emptions caused by sporting events and finally - being placed up against the red-hot "Power Rangers," (now there's some genius programming strategy) - a new version of Sonic was created: Sonic Underground.
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>>146714553

(2/3)

>Did they ask me or Pat or Len Janson to develop the series? No. In fact, I never heard of the series before a DIC story editor called and asked me and Pat to come to a cattle call for Sonic Underground. I refused (we don't do cattle calls - which, for those of you unfamiliar with the term - is where they bring in about 20 writers to learn about a series and pitch written premises (for free) in hopes of snagging an episode or two). The story editor got us there by guaranteeing us at least a few episodes. So, off we went to a conference room at DIC.

We got there and yep, twenty writers. They showed an episode of SatAm (first season) to "illustrate the background" of the characters. It wasn't one of mine or Pat's - it was one of the other episodes. After they described the marvelous new direction (Siblings, Music, Missing Mother, Stupid New Characters) they ended the meeting. We were taken into another room with the story editor who told us he wanted us to write the pilot episode. We did. SEGA read the script, then the story editor was fired and we were hired. They also hired another team of story editors - who survived through about 8 episodes before they left. We also got a few fledgling writers shoved down our throat by the producer (results: I had to rewrite their damned unusable scripts from page one - they still got paid for the script - I got nada)

We tried our best to get some lore going, but DIC was racing through the series at 2 episodes a week - an insane pace and one calculated to maximize their profits. We managed to get a three-part origin story through, but with the limited time, we were unable to tie everything together. The only bright spot was that we assigned 6 scripts to Len Janson, who wrote some damn nice stuff.
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Do I SERIOUSLY have to play SA2 on PC with the fucking keyboard?

Anyone know how to get this shit running with a gamepad? I'm trying x360ce for my Logitech gamepad.
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>>146714756
(3/3)

So that's the saga of SU. As I rewatch some of the episodes, I'm surprised it's as good as it is. I'm fully aware it doesn't match up to SatAm and I would give my eye teeth to be hired to do the SatAm third season. But the only way for that to happen would be for some visionary exec at DIC to realize they're sitting on a gold mine.

I did consult with DIC to see if there was a way to generate some enthusiasm for a feature film to be the "Third Season" of SatAm. I was given the name of a SEGA executive and had a most pleasant conversation. She had to go to a meeting, but said she would like to talk to me more about the idea.

The next day, I got a call from Ken Penders, who had been alerted by his contact in their office that I was interested in getting a Sonic movie going. I generously offered to include him in the effort and told him my strategy. Get SEGA to become invested in the idea by hiring us to interview their creative game designers, execs, etc and see if we could develop a story line that would fulfill the third season - and simultaneously give them creative ideas to develop new games. A win-win, situation.

Then, I called SEGA back, but I was shocked when the exec "lit" into me, telling me, "People pay US to develop Sonic product, we don't pay them!" Then she hung up on me. Obviously, Penders had related my strategy to them in a less-than-flattering way. Thanks for the knife, Ken.
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>>146714892
(4/3 because I fucked up copying it)

So, I gave up. Later, I was informed by friendly fans that Penders had written in his message board or some such place that "Ben Hurst doesn't know how movies are made in Hollywood." (Hey Ken, read "Adventures in Screenwriting" by William Goldman and get some humility) Then he dropped hints that HE would be the writer for a big Sonic Feature Film. That was three years ago.

So, if you're reading between the lines, you can see I don't hold out much hope for seeing the third season of Satam - or being the one who does it if it happens. And that makes me sad. Because if it were to happen, those 13 episodes would sizzle.

But this I've learned: Never leave a series on a cliffhanger unless you have a contract for the next year. And be more careful in my choice of people to confide in.

May this find you all in good health and spirits - and who knows? Miracles could still happen with Satam. But I think the odds of hitting the California Lotto are slightly better.

Best to all,

Ben Hurst
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>>146715043
>Because if it were to happen, those 13 episodes would sizzle
I've read his outline for Season 3. It sounded even worse than the first two seasons.
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>>146714892
>>146715043
God, Penders is a fucking prick
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>>146714794
I got it running fine with a ps3 controller, although I used Dolphin emulator on my mac OSX.

On my windows OS I used steam and SCP something, i forgot what it's called but it downloads drivers for you, maybe that's what you need?
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>>146715308
That's because Hurst was just as much of a hack as Penders.
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>>146714756
>We were taken into another room with the story editor who told us he wanted us to write the pilot episode. We did. SEGA read the script, then the story editor was fired and we were hired
Fucking kek
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Unreal fag here.
Not cool Sonic ramp up and down and all around, the guy who just messes around for fun.

Learning slowly, wanted to make a Big-like fishing and exploring game.
Fishing is going to be a massive pain in the ass, but oh well, 2 days in and learned a bit so woop.
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>>146715464
Well I got it working.

Played the famous City Escape for the first time.
I did don goofed
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>>146716383
At least you got the chao key!
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I watched AoStH, Underground, and SatAM all the way through for the first time this year. I honestly enjoyed Underground more than SatAM and I never skipped a song. I'm not saying Underground is good, far from it, I just found it better than SatAM. While I can understand why they added so much to it since the games were so barebones back then, everyone hyping it up must have some serious nostalgia goggles.

Out of the three I enjoyed AoStH the most, Looney Toons Lite, or so I hear never seen Looney Toons beyond Space Jam, makes a more entertaining show than whatever bullshit Underground and SatAM were. No disrespect to Ben Hurst but writing wise he doesn't seem any better than Penders to me. Only reason I see the SatAM not getting as terrible as Archie's dark ages was SatAM had people that gave a shit and could shoot down ideas instead of two writers at war with each other.
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>>146716383
>tfw I first tried City Escape in Gens
>mfw when I tried it in SA2 later
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>>146716383
Are you ready to Kick the Rock anon?
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I hope Rouge and Omega show up in Boom season 2. Shadow bitching about how friendship is for losers in front of his best friends is too good a joke to pass up.
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>>146717146
L-LEWD!!

Is there any more?
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>>146717146
Don't fool yourself anon that's sadly never going to happen
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>>146717146
I hope no more mainline characters show up.
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>>146716713
I unfortunate don't know what you're referencing.

One thing I do like about SA2 compared to SA1 so far is the facial animation is quite better. Plus do I see some mocap on some cut scene animation?

Interesting game so far. Tails is still kawaii.
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>>146717931
I was referencing the song that plays in Wild Canyon
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>>146718048
Oh I couldn't hear it over the fucking Omachao and the HEAVY WINDS

Also
>Play as tails
>Kill a bunch of people
>"Okay!"

Oh my god, super friendly fox cub, shut up.
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THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIFE!

Also what the fuck do I do in Chao World
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>>146718783
Throw one of the eggs against a wall or shake it until it hatches. Feed those vitamin looking things and animals to them to raise their stats. That's the basics of it. The chao garden is surprisingly deep in terms of mechanics, you can't get everything done in there that you can do in your first visit
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Is Sonic the cult of personality?
>Exploits us
>We still love him
>He knows our anger
>He knows our dreams
>We're his loyal followers
>Only we can set ourselves free
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>>146717253
Not with Sticks, no.

>Madonna is Not-Topaz
>has yet to interact with Rouge
Next Team Dark adventure when?

>>146717356
Bah, I can dream.
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>>146719057
I don't know about personality but you've got a sure case for the cult of autism going on.
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>>146719198
LOOK IN MY EYE
WHAT DO YOU SEE?
A CULT OF AUTISTS AND FURRIES
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memes
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>>146719838
>mem-
I'll make you eat those words!
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>>146714478I think the whole Uncle Chuck origin beat out all the rest.
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AW SHIT NIGGA HERE WE GO
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>>146720223
So, anon. Are you gonna let it get to you?
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>>146720020
>taunting me with tomboy abs
ANON
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>>146720223
WE'RE AT PUMPKIN HILL, YOU READY?
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>>146720378
It's starting to. I can't find the damn second emerald shard.
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>>146720917
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>>146720804
What? She's a career soldier after all. She would certainly have a toned physique.

Sorry, I don't really have any more. Very little Topaz art is any good. She's a minor supporting character from a mediocre anime, so only small parts of the fanbase ever got attached to her.
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>>146721289
They're all random and the hints are usually retarded, so just fly around randomly until it pings.

Hard mode is so much better for treasure hunting, it's like a completely different, and much better, game.
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>>146688428
looks like you'd easily fly off the loops as they're just flat road. Assuming you're going to indent them or put walls on the edges? Otherwise it's gonna be rainbow road bullshit at high speed. Or is that the intent?
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I don't mean to start a shitstorm, but what the hell was with all the @posting?
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>>146721759
Just a way to avoid giving people (you)s
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>>146699220
i play fishing games with it.
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Okay so tails sky patrol sucks, and I'm terrible at Tails Adventure but I'm still gonna try finish it.
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>>146721759
Stupidity.
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>>146721581
You're kidding me. I've been on pumpkin Hill for like 22 minutes now.

Do I have to do something with the train?
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@146722093
you didn't derserve any (you)s desu
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>Rouge and Topaz casually hanging out
>tfw you're not sure if you're being pandered to, or if your yuri goggles are on too tight

>>146722193
Personally, I don't mind the treasure hunt levels, but each emerald being detected only one at a time is an objective downgrade.
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>>146717146
I actually would like this too. I'd be interested to see how knuckles who has a personality would react to Rouge.
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>>146722819
>9:21:67
christ
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>>146716583
Underground was fun to watch, SatAM, while more competent, less so.
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>>146722819
E rank for sure yo
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>>146722956
>>146723340

It was 22 before I fell.

Still looking for the 3rd.
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>>146722951
The lack of a Master Emerald removes a major element, but I see it going one of two ways.
>Rouge teases Knuckles, he goes all tsundere
>Rouge teases Knuckles, he's too dense to understand

Though there is a possible third option.
>Rouge teases Knuckles, he likes it, but is too flustered to act on it
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>>146723340
>>146722956
I
HAVE
TO
TRY
HARDER
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>>146723829
I'm having flashbacks to my playthrough, though I think I did even worse than you. I'd definitely like to see how you do on the later treasure hunting stages.
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>>146723829
Did you back 'em up with a fist metal crackle?
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Why did the ghost design change?
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>>146723829
Did you get the upgrades?
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>>146725464
It's pretty much impossible to miss the early ones. The ones you need to look out for are in Green Forest and Sky Rail. Those ones you can easily miss.
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>>146723829
Make sure you get Knuckles' breathing upgrade. It makes the last level a lot less frustrating.
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>>146693959
Best robot! Woo!
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Important wolf milf and best queen posting.
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>>146725438
This is AMAZING
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"Yeah I found the President!"
God damn Tails.
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>>146727393
The cutscene after that level is nothing short of amazing
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Alright. Off to bed. Here's my Chao thing.

I'm just feeding him all the stuff and neglecting the other one I have.
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>>146728249
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>>146721452
Honestly that's one of the less freaky things about Maw. He just gives me bad vibes
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It lives!
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>>146721452
>rapists to the left of me
>molesters to the right
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>>146729978
Looking pretty good Anon.
What you making it in anyway?

My game's still on "Learning how to use the software". And then I got distracted and doodled.
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>>146730395
I think I've settled on this: >>146706585
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>>146730501
I'd play the shit outta that.
Hope you can do it man, take as much time as you need.
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What are you listening to, /sthg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
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>>146727393
Did anyone else ever notice the weird texture for the limo's windshield? When I was little I thought it was a bullet hole
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>>146730610
Glad you're excited for it!

I'm confident in my programming abilities (I am a computer scientist, after all). Trouble won't happen until I need assets, but I'm going to cross that bridge when/if I get to it.
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I always liked the Cyclone in SA2. I mean it's a car, a plane, and a heavily armed battle mech.
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>>146699176
fuck I loved these games
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high /sthg/!
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>>146731713
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>>146731770
Mascots are not for drugs!
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Can't speak for everyone, but Sonic won me over in the first game.

When he collects the ring, and sees that he's absorbed the ring, what does he do? Does he scream? Is he even all that surprised? No. he says "...." and puts on that determined look of his

Contrast this with the characters you normally see. They see that chaos control is real, or that a robot's showed up, or they're in Eggmans airship. What do they say? Maybe they scream. Or they'll take ten minutes just to comprehend the new change. Or they'll react with hostility, and try to escape or attack something.

If Sonic were suddenly beamed up into Eggman's airship, he'd just roll into it! He doesn't care whether or not things really make sense, let alone whether or not he actually expected them. I interpret that as an incredible confidence in himself and her ability to handle any surprise or setback that comes his way. That's a skill I've been working on for years.

Not to mention that some of his Eggman wisecracks would actually require a certain amount of wit - and, again, confidence - to pull off. Again, he won me over in the first game. When he stops collcecting rings, he says "...." Now, what does that require? He has to draw the connection between "I'm collecting rings" and "I'm jumping in the giant ring," and then connect the two different meanings of the latter. Then he has to find a sentence to fit the phrase in. That takes some respectable mental power. Sure, he's probably doing it subconsciously - but that in turn requires confidence in oneself.

That's why I love Sonic.
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Goodnight bump. Try not to die again please.
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>>146732667
I was just going to make that same post. Goodnight anon and goodnight /sthg/
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>>146732667
>>146732795
Oh bugger off, it seems like I'm the only britbong here left and I haven't slept yet.

Last bump.
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>>146734119
Don't stop don't stop we're in love now.
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>>146732667
>>146732795
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>>146734224
I'll stay up for a bit longer, try and learn some more Unreal.
Don't die faggots.

Gave up on my homage to creepiest Eggman.
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>>146721736
Having no walls is entirely the intent. It helps make loops actually be a challenge again instead of just being a pointless spectacle. As long as you remain calm and don't over-correct at high speeds, conquering loops is actually quite exhilarating, especially when you use them intelligently to gain extra speed like in this webm. It also gives the player the option to swerve and rocket off of the loop at just the right angle if they are so inclined. There are certain loops with 90-degree twists in them that do feature walls, though.

Sorry for getting back to you so late.
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>>146735336
And then, if you do things just right...
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>>146735336
>>146735502
Hey, an anon you talked to before here.
Did you ever attempt to see what would happen if you integrated the mach mode into his natural speed or do you plan to ever in the future?
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>>146737123
I did try it, yes. It didn't feel right. It removed the challenge of player's having to earn Mach State as well as making Sonic too fast overall on flat ground, making basic platforming and navigation difficult.

It might work in a future project, but only if the mechanics and level design were structured around it from the very beginning. Changing it now is out of the question, I'm afraid.
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Figured out how to make cars move in Unreal and repeat on a bit of road.
This comfy ass fishing town will be divine.
No-one cares but I'll keep this general alive somehow.
I might not be able to recreate Big fishing but I'll have a sweet ass town
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>>146737703
Today is just fangaming central, isn't it? Green Hill Paradise, your Big Project and that Tails Adventure fangame.
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>>146737835
If Sega won't give us a game we'll make our own.
I don't have high hopes for Big Fishing Town, will keep on it and hopefully learn though.
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Haven't been to this general since the last one fell off the board way back in 2012.

Can I fit in?
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>>146738075
Do you like Sonic?
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>>146737687
>It removed the challenge of player's having to earn Mach State
The challenge should be earning the speed, not solving some puzzle in order to arbitrarily shift up a gear. I wish you luck but this is just another flop of a project to me. I'll just have to keep waiting until someone actually makes a 3D Sonic game with Genesis Sonic sensibilities.

>making basic platforming and navigation difficult
Oh and if high speeds are too difficult to control under then what will happen with mach mode? Will it simply switch between railroad segments and slow platforming segments and feel horribly disjointed?
If his speed is high, give player's more overall control. If that reduces the presence of the character or feel of momentum then give them a form of recovery.
And if navigation is difficult then simply expand levels to fit. Could allow for a form of challenge in navigating smaller areas at higher speeds.
>>146737835
As long as something is being created that's good enough, I suppose. I'm too much of a shitter to make anything of my own unfortunately and I don't really have time to learn.
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>>146738103
Series will probably never leave me for as long as I live so I guess you could say that.
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>>146738181
Good enough. Welcome aboard or uh... back, I guess.

Have our thread mascots/OCs.
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>>146738103
no. Yes. yes.

next sonic game has lots of playable characters, including guest characters. each port has exclusive characters, for nintendo it's Mario, Link, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon
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>>146738482
>next sonic game has lots of playable characters
nope

>including guest characters
nada

>each port has exclusive characters
not happening
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>>146669843
Would you rather shit sites like Sega's official forum or SSMB?
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>>146738668
>13 hours ago
why would you post this
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>>146738665
you could have just said Next Sonic game not happening.
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>>146738752
Because it's a general that's up for a while. Why does post time matter on a board like this where posters return?
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>>146738775
There will be a Sonic game, but Sonic will be the only playable character.
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What are the meme zones?
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>The challenge should be earning the speed
Exactly. That's why having Sonic run in a straight line for long enough should not be sufficient for breaking into Mach.

Sonic controls fine at high speeds. Of that you can be sure. The issue is that, under your suggested system, with Sonic's acceleration, he reaches ludicrous speeds far too quickly. As a result, I had to lower Sonic's acceleration, resulting in him feeling sluggish. This is why, under normal circumstances, Sonic has a speed cap so that players can move about comfortably. Be assured that this speed cap is by no means slow. Even without Mach State you will still be moving at considerable speeds.

You say that you don't have the time, nor the resources to put your ideas to the test. I'm afraid that if you wish to properly argue in favor of your philosophy as opposed to my own then making a prototype of your own is really the only way to do it. The Sonic GDK is readily available and Sonic's physics values are very easy to tweak. It is entirely possible that, when I experimented with your idea. I was simply not adequately representing your ideas as you would if you were at the helm, so if you are so sure that your philosophy trumps mine, then show me. I really am curious, Anon. You clearly have some good ideas.
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>>146739346
meant for

>>146738131
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>>146739346
Running in a straight line shouldn't net them any speed anyways if you have any physics whatsoever in this. Do you even understand the design of the Genesis games because I'm uncertain if you actually do.

Why does his acceleration need to be slowed? Why didn't you just make a cap to his base running speed on flat surfaces? His theoretical top speed should be infinite without having to shift gears just to hit another cap. the restriction in his speed should come from how the levels are created, not arbitrary rules forced on the player by the game. And Sonic certainly shouldn't maintain something like mach mode after activating it. Having it integrated would save you trouble with this since you can just create a decay on his speed if he's above his normal cap and not on any incline. I know this is your project but seeing something so close yet so far to being perfect is agonizing.

Anon, I work 50+ hours in an average week to pay off thousands of dollars of student loan debt and live. It's enough already to just work, sleep, and get in a little bit of spare with vidya. Maybe when my life stops being so rough on me I'll throw my hat into the ring. /blog
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>>146734224
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>>146741028
didn't have this one or the source, so thank you.
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>mfw staying up at 3 in the morning
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look in my eye
what do you see
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>>146743512
Niggers
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>>146741653
>still do this despite having work
NEET life is still with me, it seems.
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it's summer.
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>>146743973
>underboob Nicole
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>>146699289
hey big guy
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>>146744026
this is how it ends afterward, right ?
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>>146744215
Is that how she got NIDS?
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>>146744261
"cured" , anon. "Cured"
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>tfw I'm on the hunt for a goth gf
Wish me the best of luck
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>>146744517
Go get her, lad
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>>146744517
Good luck on your quest fellow anon.
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So in the new timeline, did Treasure Team Tango still happen? Because while it's a story from before the reboot, it exclusively features characters originating from the games, and it was a fairly isolated event, so it seems reasonable to have still occurred in this version of history.
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>>146745212
It's fair to assume that the same general events that happened pre-reboot also happened in the reboot but with minor alterations.
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>>146745212
I interpreted it as Blaze still had lingering memories of the old timeline, while Amy and Cream didn't.
The beginning of the story makes it sound like Blaze had memories of Collide as well, but by part 4 her memories seemed to have faded and changed just the same as everyone elses.
Probably the jeweled scepter's power, or something.
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>>146745421
One wonders what said alterations were, exactly.

Like, the whole King Nagus thing kinda heavily relies on the Council and the fallout of the Iron Dominion invasion, especially Mina's little public awareness stunt. It's impossible for any of that to have occurred in the new timeline, yet we start off will Wally noping the fuck out of Acorn because he felt the Genesis energy.
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>>146746245
Probably just alterations to change who did what in order for the general series of events to remain the same but involve none of the characters pender'd.
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>>146746301
That's what I mean. I'm interested to know who took who's place in events. Hell, Mobotropolis was never mad of nanites in this version, so Nicole's brainwashing not only didn't happen, if it did, it would've meant almost nothing(let's assume the FF are sensible enough to regularly update their security codes).

I gotta know who took Geoffrey's place in being the inside man though.
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>>146746882
I dunno if it's true, but it seems like less time took place between the first and second genesis wave in this world.
And it seems like Wally just crashed the castle, threw Acorn into jail, and starting bullying Nicole to make him a power ring.
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>>146669448
Somewhere between gtag & tf2g amount
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>>146677942
Dulcy is nice now that she isn't full "ok ma, I'll get up and go to school"
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>>146747712
Sonic should bully them.
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>>146747280
>I dunno if it's true, but it seems like less time took place between the first and second genesis wave in this world.
Undoubtedly, since the whole Robo-Sally thing never happened either.

>>146747732
It was surprisingly easy to make Dulcy likeable. Nice, but insecure gal who has doubts about taking up a leadership role. There, done.

Oh, and no insane bullshit about an abusive boyfriend. Seriously, the fuck?
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>>146689684
>Someone else likes Marble Zone too
my senpai

>>146689873
Don't tease my cock this way

>>146692530
did you have fun beating Marble garden boss as Tails :^)
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>>146694937
At least we got good CGI moments
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>>146700574
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>>146747823
Sonic doesn't bully!
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>>146748280
Sure he does.
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>>146714794
>That filename
I suppose their reaction is accurate since they are both under 1m tall
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>>146731360
It's still no match for Eggman's battle mech
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>>146738864
Nah Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Sticks will be playable
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>>146748157
>»blackhole
Looks more of a neutron star to me but whatever
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>>146748960
Funny guy
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>>146749103
Well 2 neutron stars can from black hole so I gues you aren't too wrong either

>>146749381
sometimes reality is more fun that fantasy
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>>146743957
>tfw me too
>tfw wake up feeling like shit every fucking morning
>tfw feeling like shit throughout the day
>tfw always promising myself I'd go to sleep early every day
>tfw never doing it
help
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>>146741653
>wake up at 3-4pm
>sleep at 9-10am
>can't seem to break free
>can't get anything done
Holy shit I hope I get a job soon
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>>146751090
While it does help partially correct your sleep patterns, take it from me that losing 8 hours a day to soul-destroying drudgery makes employment a false economy.
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>>146751090
play games for your as your job :^)
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What other comics do you read /sthg/?
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>>146752316
Does manga count?
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>>146752857
If it will get you to talk about something, sure.
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>>146751214
I only somewhat recently startes working and I'm suffering from that big time. Only jobs are 9 hours here (plus commute).

Only at first it did work to correct my sleeping schedule, I went back after a few months since it's the only way to get shit done for yourself (at the cost of sleeping time).
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>Image limit
Gotta post fast

>>146752316
Barely any.
The only reason I'm reading Archie now is because of a relatively recent reboot.

The closest outside of Sonic is that I bought this Sam & Max Surfin The Highway collection several years ago which I haven't actually read yet.
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>>146752316
Just manga, no capeshit. Been falling behind on that too though.
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morning /sthg/
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>>146752316
Dredd and Commando
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>>146753837
Good morning anon! Have a good Monday.
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>>146751214
Thats why they call it slavery duh.
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>>146707243

That's not how it went through.
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Which comic we get this week?
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Why is Sonic's head so big?
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>>146755590
Cause of his ego
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>>146755590
It's a trait of his species. Genus? Phylum? Fuck it, taxonomy is bullshit and mobian biology is weird.
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>>146755590
you think his head is big? Look at his hands.
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I'm guessing this is the best place to ask.

Can anybody help point me to somwhere that I can find the full versions of the Sonic Fleetway comics?

I've checked a couple of places where people read the archie comics but every single one of them has butchered versions of the later fleetway issues that only contain the main story and the fanart pages.

I grew up with these comics and they did not only have a single story, they used to have about 3-4 per comic which used to continue over and it's bumming me out.
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>>146756252
Ask /co/ in the win-o thread on Wednesday. That would be the best bet I think.
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>>146756252
>I've checked a couple of places where people read the archie comics but every single one of them has butchered versions of the later fleetway issues that only contain the main story and the fanart pages.
That's because the side stories in later issues were reprints of previous stories, so you're not missing anything.
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>>146756474
Huh, so they are!

I didn't find the comic until quite a way into it's life so I never knew, guess I'll have to flick through until I find the right one.
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>>146756754
The STC wikia has a list of which stories appeared in which issues, including reprints.
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>>146756252
Tails Channel. No really look there you can download nearly every issue there.
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>>146666406
>Established pretty early that Echidnas with strong Chaos Magyks age slowly.
>30-something lady still looks like she's in her early 20's.
>30 years later, she STILL looks like she's in her 20's.

I feel like they could have gone somewhere with that.
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>>146755413

Bump this question.
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>>146757648
>"Ho no, we have ran out of echidnas to use as enerjak vessel !"
>Casually finds an issue with lien-da on it
>"I think I may be onto something...."

There is hundreds of ways it'd go right, and hundred others it could go wrong.

But an enerjak'd lien-da is positively awesome to think about.

Or maybe just have her become a chaos user with augs helping her channelling it.
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>>146757859
>>146757648
>Enerjak slowly (or quickly, depending on plot) corrupts the host into being a power-hungry tyrant
>Lien-Da is already a power-hungry tyrant
>possibility of her being in complete control over the power instead of the other way around
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Good morning /sthg/
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>>146758213
>She thinks of herself as a "benevolent goddess for her people"
>Is really just as ruthless as every other incaration of enerjak
>hilarity might ensue depending of how any more crazy she could get (and given her implicit backstory, she can easily BREAK)
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>>146757859
It also works because the first one we see is her grandpa. 'n shit, it's Egyptian themed, go all Cleopatra with it.

>>146758213
That too, the only times it got used was with characters who were selfless deep down. It'd be funny to have an ancient evil fail to corrupt someone because they're already a spoiled brat. That, and her cowardly, scheming nature lends itself to keeping a sorcerer around as a perpetual threat instead of a big unbeatable monster who loses his powers because he's arrogant.

All that would be WAY too much focus on a minor character, though.
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>>146758559
>Rouge the B--
Bat. Remember it.
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>>146758394
>She thinks of herself as a "benevolent goddess for her people"
Too bad that's so extremely out of character that it wouldn't work. Bitch is literally all about being told she's important and having power without putting in any effort.
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>>146758857
By the end of flynn's run pre-reboot, her motive to take over what was let of albion was to save her people. There are strong implication that she might be delluded enough to think of herself as a well intentionned extremist, still unaware that the end is ultimatly shaped by her means.
her being vain would just get worse.

>>146758725
A friend and I are working on a design for a possibly enerjak'd lien-da. Cleopatra was the first inspiration we had.

yes, it includes the lady's infamous see-throught clothing in parts. but only her midriffs, you perv
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>>146758857
>what is character development
Last time we saw her prior to the reboot, she was the Egg Legion Grandmaster in charge of the echidnas specifically. It's debatable how much of that was truly caring about her people and how much was just her positioning herself to be in charge of something with the possibility of further advancement (probably mostly the latter), but it's not that big a jump to go from that to "delusional power-hungry tyrant who sees herself as the benevolent goddess of her people when she's really just a controlling dictator."
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>>146758887
Aren't those chickens in the Sonic universe called Cucky?

I swear that's what Sonic Runners called them.
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>>146748051
Wasn't my favorite boss...
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>>146759160
>Enerjak Lien-Da
It would be wonderful to see that finally get filled from the idea wall. The translucent fabrics are just gravy.
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>>146759476
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Cucky
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Jeez. Why do alot of people love Ken Penders Lien-da?
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>>146760103

Because evil dominatrix. Also she was a nice contrast to Snively.
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>>146759939
So long as it conveys lien-da's vainness and powers without turning into "fanservice echidna No.69" , I'm all behind it.

>>146760024
Cucky the cock is Sonic's hidden hero.

>>146760103
>he doesn't like breakout characters.
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>>146757746
None.
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>>146760103
Nobody loves Ken Penders Lien-da. Everyone loves Bollers or Flynn Lien-da.

Not to mention Butler Lien-da.
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>>146760215

Wasn't it 3 comics this month?
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>>146760152
what's funny is.... they contrast so much there are people out there shipping them.


Don't ask me why. I'm trying to have the idea not growing on me.

>>146760219
what he said. we don't like penders's characters. we like what other writers have made of them.
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>>146759160
>>146759173
Fair enough.

Vain or goofy tends to be the best way to approach all-powerful characters, since it leads to more creative scenarios and humor.
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>>146760283
283 was pushed back, but it was already scanned is on the Humble Bundle.
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>>146760103
Lien-Da was complete fucking garbage until Bollers' Return to Angel Island arc actually gave her character traits (Totally okay with being used as long as she's a puppet leader, not really all that bright, tries really hard to impress people, smug, daddy issues). Then Ian actually shaped her into a likable villain.

It's a combination of being likable, not having a COMPLETELY retarded design, having a strong backstory by complete accident, and having good potential to play off other characters. She also makes her step-sister a redundant character.
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Good thing Lien-da is killed off when the Genesis wave hit.
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>>146761180
Lien-da's a cute. A CUTE

Also, new thread when.
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>>146760174
>"fanservice echidna No.69"
The fun part of character design is separating presentation from character intention.

Like, we're talking about someone who dresses up in a skintight catsuit. The character's internal logic dictates that sex appeal is what she aims for, but it's actually easy to convey their intentions without making them fanservice.

For example, anon said a translucent midriff would work, right? But you could also have the torso covered in bandages for spooky Egyptian flair. This naturally impresses a similar image as a corset, breaking up the body visually and leading the eye to the chest and hips.

Basically, with enough thought you don't need to give a character an exaggerated figure or show skin to convey vanity and "sexiness", and that's always fun to work with. TL;DR, maybe I'll take a crack at this too tonight
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>>146761180
Honestly don't know whether or not that was for the best. She was interesting, but she was pretty much fapbait from day one.
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>>146761578
I'd gladly join you on this little aventure ! expect me to post what I got so far character creation wise in the next thread.

>>146761180

This is penders we are talking about. fanservice would have been a better fate than ending up as a background character forever.
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>>146762081
Bumb
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Having a designated fanservice character, even in a kids' franchise, is not by itself a bad thing. It can add variety by contrasting with other characters, like how Rouge contrasts with the other female characters in the games. It's only a problem when everyone becomes a fanservice character outside of fan porn.
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>>146763618
Rouge would have turned out better if they tried to make her cool instead of hot, tbqh. Her role as Knuckles' rival might not have faded as fast.
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>>146763732
She kind of became her own thing in the end. but sometime I fear her friendship/ Becoming omega and shadow's mom for hire , might end up being forgotten at time.

heck, does she even steal stuff and hunt for treasures anymore ?
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morning /sthg/
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>>146757746
Technically we're getting 283, but it was already storylines here last week
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>>146763732
so doesn't knuckles just need a new rival at this point? his role as Sonic's rival is almost non existent at this point.

It would be neat to see rouge get a female rival though. Just to pad out the cast and make it a bit less sausage fest-y.
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>>146764098
Knuckles needs a new game to himself with a new antagonist who isn't Eggman. Either he gets to branch out or he'll always be "Sonic's dumbass friend"
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The only character that needs a rival is Sonic and that rival's name is Eggman.
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>>146765646
Go back to Japan, Iizuka
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>>146764098
Little boys don't like girls though, so that shit don't work.
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>>146764098

Who would go against bat-tits? Bunny-butt?
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>>146767120
there was a pre reboot issue that explored that possibility; it was a one-off thing however.
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>>146767417
And it was entirely fucking pointless, arguably one of the most pointless stories of the Dark Ages
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>>146761578
>>146762081
Having my favorite Pendered character get so much attention all of a sudden brightened my day.
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Got
to
keep
going
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>>146767120
that'd be a pretty interesting dynamic. Shame all it'd inspire is a bunch of rouge/antoine ntr. But is rouge even a character that can use a rival at this point? she's basically a good guy for the army, so you'd need someone who was as bad as she was. So another jewel thief who has stepped into the game now rouge is off being a relatively good character.

I'd kinda like to see rouge get back in the game just to spite some new character and prove she hasn't gone soft. But I dunno if you gun would look the other way to theft and such.
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>>146767698
Lien-da deserved so much more. glad to be of service , anon.
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>>146768123
>But I dunno if you gun would look the other way to theft and such.
They'd probably turn a blind eye if she made the excuse of it being for the greater good/catching a criminal
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>>146768123
>So another jewel thief who has stepped into the game now rouge is off being a relatively good character. I'd kinda like to see rouge get back in the game just to spite some new character and prove she hasn't gone soft.

There was an episode of Star Trek that was basically like this, and it was good enough that it made me not want to brutally maim Neelix.
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>Crazy Gadget

FUCK

THIS

STAGE

What am I to do in that Multi-colored gravity room?
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>>146769143
Flip the switches to change gravity to move to different platforms.
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>>146768123

Wave the Swallow?
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Morning /sthg/, how is everyone?
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>>146769143
Yeah well that doesn't work half the time.
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>>146768123

Or can we revive Nic?
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>>146769712
She's been Pendered, anon. She's never coming back.
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>>146769832

It was Penders who created her?
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>>146769981
Yep. She first appeared in Knuckles the Echidna #26.
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>>146770030
She also piloted the Millennium Falcon
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>>146665498
Sonic 06 seemed to have stolen that plot-point from Sonic the Comic in the UK.

In that, early in the comic, Robotnik sends Sonic and Co forward in time so they can't dick with him any more.
Do to a mistake on his part though, although they are sent into the fiture, it's only a few months. Robotnik does rule the planet, but he won't be unopposed.

Also, Robo-Tails from Sonic: Lost World is near fucking identical to a robo-tails that appeared in the second Sonic the Comic, right down the the brainwashing and shit.
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Did Nic ever do anything of significance at all?
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>>146770207
Free Fiona I guess and capture Gruckles (Green Knuckles)
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image limit reached, ABANDON THREAD!
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>>146770207
>>146770282
She didn't really free Fiona. She just teamed up with her. She did, however, help Mighty find Ray.
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>>146770561
>>146770561
>>146770561
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>>146770207
>Freeing Ray
>Helping Nack trap ectocooler Knuckles
>Showing up in Fiona's backstories
That's pretty much it. Other than freeing Ray you could say her only noteworthy aspect was having tits.
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>>146770998
go to e621
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>>146770998

> I have been cheated for the last time.jpg
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>>146771559
I d-dun't wanna get banned D=
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