/domg/ - Dominions General

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First for Ermor

>>146603775
Sure, don't link it in chat, see if WE care.

It's cirno leaves after being proven wrong with stats hour, free drinks for all!

I've been masturbating too much, /domg/ and that's why i forgot to bump thread.

Please forgive me.

>>146605413
There are several D&D games running soon, -not- drinking heavily was never an option.

>>146603775
So are we just waiting for some of the existing games to be finished before we start up some new PBEMs, or have we hit a dead spot in the year?

>>146605838
SEVERAL DnD games? From wence came the others?

Also, it's the small things that I like:
Icarian Wings
Armor id [id]: 115 (Icarian Wings)
Protection, body [protbody]: 8
Defence [def]: -3
Encumbrance [enc]: 3
Material Composition: Flammable

>>146605971
Not that dude, but I have sat night D&D too. It's unrelated to Dominions tho

>>146606094
Oh right, thought there was more domg dnd.

>>146605970
I've been thinking about my own take on a memegame once my current games list gets some extra room.

How about 6 players on a 66 province map, 20 T1 thrones, 20 T2 thrones, 20 T3 thrones, Indy Difficulty: 9. Maybe even throw in a Starting Provinces: 2 or 3 to spice it up.

How terrible of an idea would this be? How about if I made a custom Oneage mod to get rid of the most powerful/popular nations so people had to go with other options?

>>146603775
YES to step on Snake

Also, need subs for Flatus Mictlan, Patala, and C'tis it seems. Come join me, Lambert, and whoever Xibalba is on our journey to the end of the world.

I, Lemuria, shall be you driver.

>>146607918
Awful

But all memegames are awful. If you run it, they will come.

>>146608094
Addendum: Run, don't join, this piece of shit game will soon die, and unless you want to spend 2+ hours per turn you'll run and never look back.

>>146607918
>How about 6 players on a 66 province map, 20 T1 thrones, 20 T2 thrones, 20 T3 thrones, Indy Difficulty: 9.

How about indy difficulty 0-2 instead? Thrones for everyone working as normal provinces.

>>146609105
That may actually be a better idea than the "aggressively fuck over the players" kinda thing I was thinking.

>>146607918
There are only 50 thrones max of which 5 are T3

>>146610453
So, we need to make MORE thrones first?

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Along the border between earth and hell, may your kingdom prevail!

Remember the simpler days before Ragha and Xibalba when Illuminati and Iron Blizzard were the greatest threats to balance?

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>>146611550
Illuminati were never the true threat. They were just believed to be.

Skelemans were always the Great Enemy

>>146612019
True, while the Illuminati rule above you, skeletons are always with you.

After playing CoE4 a bit I'm starting to want some of the mechanics from it in Dom4, like the different resource types and more mages that cast multiple spells at once
Both Dom4 and CoE4 could use a healthy dose of quality of life improvements in some areas though

>>146613089
Dominions 4 getting a way to have you spellcasters cast multiple spells in a turn (especially if it doesn't take up item slots), no matter how difficult, would radically transform the game because it would make supercasters (or one mage + supercombatant) viable.

>>146586213
>One of those attacks is a lance.
That's wrong. Eagle warriors just have a standard spear, not a light lance.

>>146613562
incorrect, check the dom4 inspector, they recently got a Bronze Lance. I thought you were right till I checked myself

>>146613667
Shit, that's actually a pretty important change. +4 damage on the first attack is a big deal with how numerous and expendable eagle warriors are. I'm surprised nobody mentioned it.

I suppose MA Mictlan needed a buff, but the issue was/is their mages not eagle warriors.

>>146613318
That's a change I can get behind given how mage pretenders have been left in the dust compared to other pretender choices.
Also, some way to diversify the endgame so that it isn't BLOODBLOODBLOOD

So what should you be aiming for in the end/late game? I feel like I shouldn't still be rolling with more magic and less armies but armies seem to still be the most effective way of demolishing enemy armies and PD.

>>146614427
*I should be

>>146614427
Important army buffs like army of lead/gold, fog warriors, antimagic, all that stuff
Access to as many schools of magic as possible, preferably blood in lategame since demons fuck over everything else and blood scales up better than gem based magic
Tarts with gift of health if you can get them, they're basically the best non blood summon
Having some mobile thugs for PD clearing or fast throne capping would also be ideal, but there's quite a lot of ways to do that easily

>>146614427
As many flying, stealthy thugs as the enemy has provinces and what this guys said >>146614829

Nexus + wishing for gems and SCs is also good

>>146614829
>>146615396

Okay great, this was kinda where I was headed anyways: making my armies stronger and making them out of stronger units. I was worried that there were some "kill the entire enemy army" spells that I was missing that would hard counter all my armies.

Post some memey thugs you can do at con 6.

Did you guys have any cool experiences with events besides "I got a few thousand gold, a fort, and a ring of wizardry at once."

>>146614221
Blood is OP. This is known.

So, in the event that a tiny neighbor and a neighbor even bigger than you both attack you, is there any reason to not just swiftly crush the smaller guy to fuel your war machine against the big guy?

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>>146616464
I got the Hidden Dryad event and got the kitsune to question her and get a nature path boost.

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>>146616840
Cute

>>146614221
Don't you mean ARMAGEDDON ARMAGEDDON ARMAGEDDON

>>146605783

Take it easy on the ol' yogurt blaster, Anon.

So, you all know summod 0.60 is in the works, if anyone is feeling like helping there's over 11k lines to check for errors before release. I can't say this is fun, but it's necessary.

>>146616464
As Abysia, I suddenly had a Anathemant Dragon become an Annointed in a Volcano when the Unfrozen that appeared from the Enchanted Glacier attacked. He managed to beat them back.

>>146616210
I mean, there are a fair few 'kill the enemy army spells' - RoS is the famous one, but WoD is often better. Then there's the massive AoE evos, wrathful skies, firestorm, etc. Your ideal army can field all the ones that you can protect yourself against and then also field some sort of protection against that of the bad guys

>>146617718
I would help, but I'd rather watch anime

>>146616742
I would be worried about the bigger guy using the time you spend doing that to advance extremely rapidly using thugs/SCs against your weakly defended provinces. If the smaller guy is smart he'll turtle up as soon as you focus on him and make pushing into his lands take as long as possible.

There's also a diplomatic perspective to consider. Wiping out a small nation looks a lot less friendly than valiantly defending against a larger one, even if the small nation started the fight.

Ideally, I think I'd want to try make the smaller player back out of the fight. Make the war hurt for him but don't actively try to conquer his provinces. Just raid and/or cast cancer rituals all over them, and make sure he knows that the pain can stop as soon as he stops supporting the bigger player. That should be a lot cheaper than trying to kill him, and less likely to cause diplomatic problems.

At the same time try to make an alliance against the bigger player. Even if you think you can take him solo, more allies is always helpful and will take some of the pressure off you. Odds are his neighbors will take a slice if you beat him anyway, so you may as well try to get them to do some of the work.

Obviously all this will depend on what you've actually got available, what your two enemy nations have, and the diplomatic state of the game, but I hope I've made the reasoning clear.

>>146617718
As a doctrine, I generally focus firepower on my more vulnerable enemies first. I've won two games using this philosophy of growing larger to break a stalemate

>>146621414
I'm not sure how that works for error checking anon.

>>146610643
There's a great mod called Chocolate Thrones, it's in the OP pastebox

>>146607918
As soon as summod 060 is done and seems stable I'll be starting an all nation cross forum game using it.

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Fresh off the Llama Bress

Which nations can have the Volla pretender? I've been trying lots of different pretenders and I find the increased gem income is really useful. I checked the inspector but it just says that 'various nations' can have the Volla.

>>146624937
Thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment.

>>146624462
Put your cursor over the 'various nations' text,

>>146625151
TyByCtMYstWmLiHaC

>>146624937
>>146625151
>>146625358
this is my favorite meme

>>146625487
Thank you meme, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment.

>>146616210
Dominions is by its nature a game of counters. The other thing you need to do is find counters to the counters. Thugs and SCs are the classic response to armywipes.

>>146625172
Thanks, I'd tried that, but it seems one just has to find the sweet spot for it to appear.

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Play your turns

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=75&#last

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APOLOGIZE

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Thank you skeletons, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment.

>>146623345
wew

>>146631531
Only 1800. Pathetic, I sacrificed 8.4k of my ghosts to the glorious Lemurian Cause just last turn.

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>>146632719
Counterfeit lemurian ghosts are trash.
Do not support knock off ghosts, if your ghosts don't look like this you are getting scammed.

I finally bought this game

thank you gaben

>>146633165
My ghosts don't have 20 prot. How do I apply for a refund?

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>>146635364
Apocalypto did nothing wrong

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do it domg

>>146637568
Why don't you make me~

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I was interested in dominions 4 for a while now and bought it now cause of 50% off but all the AI games i did by now were pretty easy, played as Ulm Ermor and those atztec guys and it basically faceroll all the time, am i missing something or shoulkd i go for harder difficulties?

>>146637998

Join PBEMs and enjoy the assrape.

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>>146637918

I want my turns and I want my battle reports and I want my memes. Stop having lives and D&D sessions.

>>146637998
The AI is terrible, and the general advice around here is that playing against it will actively make you worse at the game because of the bad habits it teaches you.

Difficulty level just gives it more resources and gold, it doesn't make it more intelligent.

Just join online games.

>>146605783
Where are you?

>>146607918
it might be pretty hard to start; you might be forced to manually set provinces as possible capital start or throne start, otherwise the game might start with not enough capital starting point due to them being occupied by thrones and it might end up crashing.

test it several times ins ingle player first.

>>146616464
le epic turn 3 castle.

sickass priest assasin mage hero on turn 5 which i accidentally suicide due to failed expansion script.

few hundred gold in early turn which istantly got turned into elephants and conquered tons of provinces.

>game started! first turn attached
>starting provinces has like 6 connection 2 of which are hyperlinks to other parts of the map

is this supposed to be crazy good or bad? i don't have really good expansion unfortunately.

>>146641784
>i don't have really good expansion
You do now
Do you need expansion advice?

>>146641784
The more resource-intensive your expansion/cap-only troops the better it'll be for you, but I can't think of a situation where a large capcircle is not good.

>>146642332
>Do you need expansion advice?

always, but i don't wish to reveal my identity so i'd pass.

>>146642707
unfortunately some stuff in my capcircle is gonna be interesting for other players to grab and i am not fast enough to capture them all, also one of the capcircle province is screaming " PUT A CASTLE ON ME".

>>146642837
>i am not fast enough to capture them all
It is extremely rare for someone to not accept another player taking everything in their cap circle unless they are planning on killing them very soon or share a cap circle with them (in which case they are also planning on killing them very soon).

>>146642837
Every nation can expand acceptably with national troops. Many nations get better expansion with some blesses over others or benefit more from an awake expander to help get rolling more quickly, but -every- nation can expand well with a good start, and what you're describing is a GREAT start.

Any open MPs or can anybody tell me where's the best place for a newbie like me to find some ?

>>146642837
>I'm not fast enough to capture them all
Unless it's a throne or really nasty province (which other players aren't going to be able to easily take either), that means you're doing expansion horribly wrong.

You can't take 6 provinces in a year with an amazing start to help you out?

Also this >>146642917. You shouldn't assume your capcircle is inviolable, but most players will give you plenty of time to take it and will give it back if they accidentally move into it.

Holding onto another player's capcircle usually means you're soon going to be at war with them, because it's a very large risk for someone to let you keep it. UW-land borders are an exception, of course.

>also one of the capcircle province is screaming " PUT A CASTLE ON ME".
Not really a problem unless you have extremely resource-heavy cap-only units.

A fort adjacent to your capital reduces the resources your capital gets, but makes it much harder to safely siege.

>>146643628
You can't take 6 provinces in a year with an amazing start to help you out?

i can, although my armies need reinforcement often. but i also plan to reach chokepoints, get sweet farms , encircle provinces so i can take them later and having many provinces i have to get with high priority forces me to do some unhealthy choices.
i can totally see 2 provinces i absolutely need to put a fort on being so nicely positioned that i can't hope for them to be still free by turn 8. it's a bit awkward.

>>146643019
Try expanding as EA Kailasa or LA Mari

>>146644598
I've done Kailasa with an N9 monobless. It's honestly just gimped by the generals being StR, which summod fixes. In vanilla, I've had some success with expansion parties led using a yogi + an indy priest, but that requires setting up a temple within a turn of your cap and it's still hella awkward.

>>146644598
Also, I've never actually played LA Mari but don't you just do like scales MA TC and expand with an infantry line, and bows (well, crossbows in Mari's case) + an archer lure when appropriate?

>>146644267
I don't really think that's a good idea.

It sounds like you'll need to continually reinforce your expansion parties as they move towards the chokepoints, which means a lot of wasted turns just ferrying troops.

If you try to expand in a more circular pattern you can easily fold old expansion parties into new ones as needed, and quickly return any empty leaders back to the capital.

Of course, I've never liked going for chokepoints or trying to encircle territory. I feel it tends to bring a bit too much heat from other players when you block them from expansion, and there's a big risk that someone gets there first and screws up your expansion.

>>146644598
>EA Kailasa
I've tried it, it's not that awful. Falcion Yavana with a decent bless are very good against melee threats. Don't throw them at archers and you should have a decent time.

Now if only they weren't magic beings so I could lead them with indie commanders...

On the scales side, you have Bandar Warriors (which I haven't tried , but have been told they work great)

>>146645142
MA TC gets 9r pikes and 11r tower shields. Makes the frontline cost much fewer resources than the 20r pikes from LA Mari.

TC also gets composite bow troops (12r) which are better against most types of indies (in my opinion) than Mari's crossbow troops (10r).

I also think MA indies are generally easier than LA. Less heavy armor.

>>146645142
It's more the fact their starting army is garbage militia than that.

>>146645606
>I've tried it, it's not that awful. Falcion Yavana with a decent bless are very good against melee threats. Don't throw them at archers and you should have a decent time.
Yeah, that's what I did. I also typically had a few random crap units under the priest while the yogi led the sacreds. If no archers, the crap units sit in the back. If there are, they become an arrow screen / lure. Worked fine.

>MA TC gets 9r pikes and 11r tower shields. Makes the frontline cost much fewer resources than the 20r pikes from LA Mari.

>TC also gets composite bow troops (12r) which are better against most types of indies (in my opinion) than Mari's crossbow troops (10r).

>I also think MA indies are generally easier than LA. Less heavy armor.

Yeah, I can see how it would be worse and how they might really need a scales snake to help ensure that they get resources early. It just doesn't seem particularly complicated or tricky to expand with the way that Kailasa is (which, again, is actually pretty okay. It's just not at all intuitive to use a cheap mage + an indy priest).

>>146646183
>It just doesn't seem particularly complicated or tricky to expand with the way that Kailasa is
LA Marignon is tricky because their expansion is extremely bad.

Most nations can live with completely losing an expansion party or two stupidly and still get a decent expansion. (From my limited experience practicing with them) LA Marignon starts having trouble if you take significant losses at anytime during expansion, let alone actually losing a party.

To make up for it you need to know basically all the scripting tricks (arrow decoys, etc), need to know the details of indie provinces inside out (so you can make your troops get first hit in melee clashes) and need to know which provinces you can take with minimal losses.

By comparison Kailasa is dead easy. Once you know to avoid archers and use blessed Yanava it's about as complicated as other nations (even if it takes more gold and recruitment slots).

With LA Marignon you need to be getting the absolute most out of your troops in each fight and that means rescripting based on which province you'll move into next turn. Or you can take an earth snake, which most people do.

>>146639203
Any games to join?

>>146643174
>>146648919
I know of a few games, but most are using unusual mods/settings. Vegetable Warriors 5 (modnations game, might not start due to lack of players), ChaosHander (itemunits game), MonsterMashMadness (I can't remember). Might have missed some.

I could just host a standard game with only worthy heroes. There seems to be interest.

EA would be my preference, but if people want MA or LA that's cool too.

>>146650572
I'd be in but desu i have no idea what worthy heroes etc means, just got the game yesterday but ai is really no challenge at all

>>146650572
sounds good

>>146651225
Heroes are random units who have a chance of appearing at your capital every turn. Each nation gets some, but a lot of the vanilla ones are shit.

Worthy heroes improves (and in a few cases, adds) heroes so that every nation has interesting heroes with actual uses.

It has little effect on gameplay and is generally regarded as a straight improvement over vanilla.

>>146651334
>>146651225
So no preference on age?

I'll make it soon then, need to decide what map to use.

>>146651370
so how can i get that worthy heroes? mod dl somewhere or something like that? thanks for the help btw

>>146651483
here https://www.dropbox.com/s/l16r7ashk0aewvy/Worthy_Heroes_v5.5NN.zip?dl=0

>>146651483
There will be a link to a download on the llamaserver page when I create the game.

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New game, LA, 10 players, Peham good starts v2 map, worthy heroes 1.23 mod.

All welcome, ya bunch of shitters.

Pic is the map.

>>146651714
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Evropa

Llamaserver link

>game gets to late, its unfun and there is no way i can win
Keep playing or drop and join Evropa?

>>146651225
>>146651334
I'm a bit slow, but here's the game. Should be standard settings, if I've missed something tell me.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=PeaceAndHarmony

Please mention here that you've joined and which nation you chose when signing up.

I'll also make a thread on the steamgroup. Posting there will not be required to join, but it will make it easier for other players to contact you outside of game. Mostly it's just so people know who I am and can contact me on steam if desired.

>>146651714
Well, this is bad timing. I guess we're overdue for vanilla games, hopefully these both fill quickly.

>>146653175
I just joined as agartha

>>146653175
>>146653910
EVERYONE DOGPILE AGARTHA

>>146651714

Have you thought about making a threat on the steam group?

>>146651714
I'm in as Lemuria. Pls no bully

Steam thread:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/358415738196950043/

I'll be joining as Maverni, though I'm not particularly attached and can switch if someone else wants it.

>>146653910
Cool.

>>146654378
Why? That's not very nice.

>>146654378
Meany

>>146654475
>>146653175

Cool. I'd like to join as Pan.

>>146653910
anyways if someone really wants to play agartha i can switch

>>146655012
Sure, added you to the list on steam.

Feel free to submit a placeholder pretender, by the way. I'll give a 24 hour notice for everyone to finalize their pretender before I start the game.

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>>146654415
No and I will not.

>>146654472
pic related

>>146651714
>Score graphs on
>Story events on
Are you sure about that?

Why are story events considered bad?

>>146655310
I've changed score graphs.

Story events are fine.

>>146656019
Some are a bit OP against the player given certain situations. Or conversely too rewarding.

They are fine imo and make the game a little more interesting.

>>146656019
Last time I tried them was a few patches ago, but they tended to be buggy and often a lot more influential than normal events.

>summod060.dm MY HANDS ARE TYPING WORDS

Mr professionalism inside the mod is still there, just typing #descrs is getting to me slightly

>>146653175
I've played a few single player games but I haven't played multiplayer. How do I sign up?

>>146660786
Start by reading the OP.

>>146655141

Can you link the map? The game links to a thread but cant find it there as it is a cataclysm game thread.

>>146660786

Read the play by email guide. In summary:

> Make a pretender
> navigate to the 'newlords' directory in the dominions data folder
> email the .2h file to [email protected] with the subject <gamename>

>>146661191

the word 'look' is hyperlinked in the post on in the linked thread.

>>146661089
>>146661297
Thanks, I just wasn't sure if I needed to join somewhere before I emailed my pretender.

>>146651714
Sent in a pretender for Gath.

>>146662503
well you did need to tell it in the thread/forum/ chat where the game has been created, otherwise it would have been awkward with no one knowing where you came from.

>>146663053
>not just joining random games all the time and memeing shit up

Get on my level.

>>146653175
I'd like to join as Therodos

>>146651714
Joined as Utgard. Can't wait to see how fucked am I because of all the mountain passes.

>>146651714
>Unexpected Nation
Welp, it was fun while it lasted.

>>146651714
Where is the map file you flaming homosexual? Are we going to play on a 297x229 map for ants?

>EA Caelum

S3-5 pretender for my summons, D3F1 for my other summons, S D F for all those summons or gayrainbow sitesearcher pretender?

what do you suggest? the rainbow idea would be dormant, the other ones probably imprisoned ( but then how the hell would i get S gems?)

>>146668436
Caelum doesn't really need anything aside from good scales and a pretender that can summon the national summons (since they give you complete diversity anyway).
I believe you can get away with just DF as a minimum since there's a DF summon with S3 on it, but that might take a lot of summoning or an empower to progress to S5.

>>146668436

Only need scales and DF. Yatas can be S3, can craft a hat, and can summon Celestial Yazads, one of which is S4, another has ES and can craft a coin to boost your S3 to S5.

If you really really wanna bless, there are probably worse things than a D9f4 demilich.

Didn't this used to have a torrent? What the fuck happened here?

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>>146651714
>"a map for 5-7 players game"
>Late Age, max 10 players

>>146670397
The latest versions aren't cracked and the game is too niche for anyone to get on it.

I think there's a pirate version available somewhere, but it's out of date, missing a lot of content and won't work with multiplayer.

>>146670397
Just buy our game, silly goyim.

>>146670537
That's pretty shitty. Now I have to find a way to legally buy it without the sharia police unironically killing me.

>>146670447
>not enjoying a knifefight in a phone booth

>>146670397
technically there is a pirated outdated version, but if you wanna try what the game looks like you can download the demo of dominion 3. dominion 4 is just a good upgrade to it( i think the demo also has far less nations and content) but the concept is the same.
http://www.illwinter.com/dom3/

if you wanna play multiplayer, which is the real deal with dominions, you are forced to buy ( or do an hotseat with the demo). we had few months were the pirate version was up to date and up to one player /game could have been a pirate, but Illwinter DRM tactics are doing a good work.

>>146670630
you should try to move to a civilized EU country, where muslims are at most 5% instead of staying in the UK.

>>146671092
savage

>>146671092
>EU nations can't stop Muslims crossing borders but the UK can close its borders to immigrants now

>>146671369
>implying the Caliphate of Londonstan will allow it

>>146671369
>Uk can now close its border to immigrants
Literally stated as false by LeaveUk less than an hour after the results came out

>>146616464
Got a circle master as mictlan once on turn 2, let me get civatetos as soon as I researched them

>>146671910
>>146671654
Pol go and stay go

>>146651714
Joined as Jomon

Can't wait to get my shit wrecked and then blame it on playing an underpowered nation

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>""""""good"""""" starts

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>>146672391

>>146672391
>extra gold and resources around cap compared to water
>guaranteed approach to land, which ryley wants
>still connected to the motherfukcing water.

looks good to me.

>>146673106
Resources don't transfer over land/water borders iirc.

>>146650572
I'd be in for a game, if you're making one

>>146672391
What map?

>>146674883
Peham """"""""good"""""""" starts v2.

>>146674710
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=PeaceAndHarmony

>>146675369
ah yeah, I'm retarded, thanks

>>146673187
typical illfraud.

>>146651714
Admin, can we unstart for a second before any players have made their turns? I wanted to send a different pretender.

So, might I ask why we're stuck using a hilariously outdated version of worthy heroes?

aight where's the original peham?

>>146677846
o i got it

>>146677846

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4ri5260ttjy6ii8/AACMhf2m2Ufi_vhyEURuRXIla?dl=0

ADMIN PLS UNSTART I DONE GOOFED

ITS WORNG DUDE

>>146678053
AND SELECT NEW WORTHY HEROES WHILE YOU'RE AT IT

>>146678053
AND FETCH ME A DRINK WHILE YOU'RE AT IT

So, are we unstarting or what? I'd change my pretender too, to be honest.

>>146679230
AND GIVE ME A BLOWJOB

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How's the newbie game going? Anything crazy happen yet or is it just smashing armies into each other?

>>146682174
Are we doing blowjobs now?

>>146682617
It's down to 9 players from 13, I don't know how it's going now since I got knocked out myself, but I'm guessing Mictlan will win, last I saw they had the most land by far.

There's another one starting too, though.

>>146677346
because MZ2 doesn't believe in updated WH, thanks it's not doing it's original purpose

Is Ys a good nation?

>>146681605
>>146678190
>>146678053
YOU FUCKING RETARDS

FUCK YOU

I KNOW YOUR FUCKING GAME YOU JUST WANT TO ROLL A BETTER STARTING PROVINCE

>>146683939
pls

It's not entirely true at least.

>>146683793
Not really. They are shit tier underwater and will lose to pretty much anyone and merely decent above water.

>>146683782
b-but next version of WH has grammar updates

>>146653175
Joining as Ryleh

>>146684081
>hello I'm an expert on a nation that hasn't been seriously tested yet

>>146682617

This game is full of absolute madmen

>>146684421
That's exactly what we need in this community.

>>146684421
RIP TC, you matyr'd yourself so that our sides may live in harmony and contentment

>>146684543
It was Lambert's idea.

>>146684081
They got geomancers

>>146684345
We know their tools and they offer no new mechanics.

Its coastal mages are decent but expensive. Unlike EA Marverni, they don't have 45g s1 mages to support the druids or boars to make a free sacred front line. Their cap stuff is great, but big air is better when you have other air mages too. I can see them being good when they get fog warriors and stuff up to work with their earth/astral land stuff, but that's relatively late for a nation that has mediocre research.

>>146684543
What did he do?

>>146685467

Hail Mary'd his pretender onto Mictlan's capital

>>146684825
Geomancers are 65 gold.
Druids are 165 gold.

Still, those guys + caponly A4 make a pretty decent combination. Above water they are definitely one of the better water nations in the game. That's still not much.

>>146685467
Teleported his oracle pretender onto mictlan's capital in the desperate hope that the mictlan player hadn't blood sacrificed at all in the last 40 turns

Went about as well as you could expect

>>146683782
I have come here, to this thread, for the first time in three months, to bring you this message:

Heard you were talking shit.

I haven't joined or started a game in the past several months, nor am I admining whatever the hell game that is.

I'm not even the guy who complains that worthy heroes doesn't do its original purpose. I'm the guy that complains that worthy heroes is a pointless mod with no game impact that everyone insists we use because of random pointless reasons.

>>146686615
>worthy heroes is a pointless mod with no game impact that everyone insists we use because of random pointless reasons
this desu

>worthy heroes is a pointless mod with no game impact
But that's why it's used to begin with.

>>146686615
Fuck off. Leave my flying head with petrification alone.

>>146686954
Yeah, it's used pretty much exclusively for the cool factor.

>>146667886
Click admin options you filthy fucking casual.

>>146670447
>Needing lots of provinces

>>146677218
Sorry matey the game started while I was out. I can't go back now.

>>146677346
Newer versions are trash that go beyond the cursory changes that didn't not fuck up game balance in 1.23

>>146678053
lol


Good luck gents and all that. 48 hour turnaround time limit, this will not change, ever. Stale three times in a row and you're AI'ed. Trades of items and gems are binding once agreed.

I just wanted to say that the badmin for Late_to_the_party is a nigger.

>>146689095
>Click admin options you filthy fucking casual.
Are you literally retarded? There's only a single .map file without any images.

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>>146689141
Thank you Bogarus, you matyr'd yourself so that our sides may live in harmony and contentment

>>146689141
Why?

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>>146689447
I was in the middle of a fight with Bogarus and I had to leave for the weekend so I asked for an extension in all my games. I just got back and I got an extension in every game, but was greeted by three stales in LttP.

I'm salty as fuck that I didn't get the opportunity to shit on Bogarus some more due to the admin being a dick.

Oh well. Enjoy your free capital, Bogarus.

>>146689095
>>146689183
In case someone is unable to use Google, Peham map, including the .tga file, is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5m9bkhh0e9iz4d/Peham_v1.2.7z?dl=0
Yes, it is huge.

>>146689902
>in b4 Bogarus is the admin

>>146689902
you know my information is in game page and I don't always follow the thread. I'm sorry you stalled because I missed your request but next time just message me on steam

>>146623345
Now marignon is threatening to quit and claiming that it's my fault for failing to extend the game. I gave him a 96 hour extension that covered the asked-for period. Fuck him.

>>146690801
It seems like dom4mods meta discourages AI'ing, but at least the fucking AI would summon a fire elemental. Nothing like 180g mages at 150 fatigue from casting Flare into a giant undead blob.

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>>146691243
>Casting flare into undead

For what purpose? Even indie priest blobs are more effective.

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Lemuria? what is a lemuria?

Thank you ATLANTIS, you matyr'd yourself so that our sides may live in harmony and contentment

Moat, can you confirm that Snow still increases fire mage fatigue as rain does?

>>146691754
send gold to Atlantis, friends.

>>146691825
It cost 64 fatigue to cast Flare (a 50 fatigue spell) while snowing, they're encumbrance 4, so I don't know what can account for that 10 fatigue other than snow.

>>146693139
So it still increases the fatigue cost, but by less. Thanks. And this was an F3 mage casting it, right?

>>146693139
No Drain scales?

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>>146693139
I have no idea what you are doing but phoenix power (24 fatigue) + flare (54 fatigue) on Witchunters is 78 fatigue.

>years after release of the game people are still confused about snow/rain mechanics

>>146655141

Joined as Lanka.

>PeaceAndHarmony already full

can we start doing the first turn admin?

>>146653175
>>146695236
Well shit this filled up quick for a newbie game.

It was supposed to be another newbie game, right?

>>146695445
nicknight have around 6000 hours, so...

>>146695445

No skill restrictions as per thread.

is chrone supposed to be bad? will his old age give him bad stuff? how do i prevent bad stuff from happening ont he poor guy?

>>146695825
>his

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>A tip for CoE4 is telling people to play dominions 4
I still don't really get this game. It takes forever to get anywhere or do anything and it doesn't seem as though there's many ways for player skill to express itself, which is completely unlike dom4.

>>146695825
Crone is a girl. Give her a level or two of nature and you won't have any old age problems.

>>146695776
2650 hours, most of which is just leaving the game up in the background.
More relevant statistic would be 7 completed games - and about 3 games that are dragging on for-ever.

>>146696007
>only 7 completed games
What a fucking noob.

>>146695960
CoE games are shit.

>>146695445
Newbie games are a meme anyway.

I never had any of this newbie game nonsense. I joined games and got absolutely dunked on, repeatedly, before I learned how to actually perform.

>>146696205
Eh, I don't think it's shit, some of the classes are cool, but it seems like an unfinished game in a lot of ways, like in the aspects that make the game less tedious and annoying to play.

>>146696640
Or, more accurately, it's a kind of shitty HoMM style game with an Illwinter skin that's missing a lot of stuff that's in HoMM and makes the game interesting outside of mushing armies together and collecting resources to summon more stuff to mush together.

>>146697424
*that makes the game interesting

>>146696353
>not wanting your cute newbies to be comfy
wew

>>146698101
Newbies need to join proper games so I can bully them.

>>146698370
And you should join memegames so i can bully you ;^)

>>146699637
>Implying I'm not already in all the memegames
>Implying I'm not the one doing the bullying

>>146682617
Finally beat Arco after we spent a year glaring at each other and another year fighting only to look around and see that Mictlan everywhere and kicking everyone else's ass
Should I do something about that?

>>146700163
>implying i'm not the one about to backstab you in all of them
wew

>implying
>implying
>implying
>implying
DO YOUR TURNS NIGGERS

>>146700562
this desu

>>146700562
>implying i didn't do all of them
>implying i'm not waiting for memers like you to send their turns

Sell me on this game, please.

>>146702159
You can wish for girls

>>146702271
What about...little girls?

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>>146702159

>>146695985
i can't afford them. is there an item or a spell that make them live longer?

would life after death work on pretender?

>>146702668
>cant afford 10 points on a rainbow

What the fuck are you doing

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>>146702159

>>146700276

Go to /v/anheim chat

I want to start Formoria.

Is the hooded teleporting pretender with 4W 4N 4E scales: 30 1P 3G dormant dominion 6 a decent pretender build? The bless seems alright for the sacred umarked and giants and it also helps them expand into those paths (earth water nature) that they aren't very strong in.

Criticism?

>>146702668
Rejuvenate makes you 1 year younger for every blood slave.

>>146703194
Pure N9 can do wonders. You can thug exclisively with your druids.

>>146703194
It's not the worst thing I've seen, but the W4 and N4 will be largely negligible on your sacreds. Personally I prefer an imprisoned N9 with more scales, since as >>146703423 said it makes druid thugging safer.

>>146703194
Seems fine to me if you don't want an N9 bless for thugging. Thematically cool pretenders are more fun anyway.

>>146703194
Pretty good. I'm more fond of a scales build with E4 and N2, but your idea isn't bad.

>>146703423
Druids are decent thugs even without a major bless, actually.

>>146703712
>E4 and N2
That's with an awake boar, I assume

>>146703891
Or dormant. Firbolgs are great at expanding anyway and additional 150 points allow you to get almost all the scales.

Are the Formorian giants not worth recruiting enmasse? Their stats seem a little low. Even with a N9 bless I think they would just be pinching bags

>>146704342
They're amphibious, you use them to get underwater for some additional income. Otherwise not really worth using your capital's resources on, Nemedians are much more useful.

>>146704342
They're pretty cheap sacks of meat, but yeah, not really that amazing even with N9.

>>146703194
It's not great. You already have great manevurability, and it's not clear what those paths get you.

>>146700562
Literally all my fucking games have been delayed

I bet it's one guy

I bet it's one guy who joined ten games and then delayed all of them for an entire weekend with his real life bullshit.

TELL ME WHO I NEED TO BULLY

>>146704342
As far as meatsacks go, they're a pretty good deal. Not too expensive, lots of repel, decent protection, good regeneration.


Theyre not any good at killing, though.

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>>146693442
Yes, WH casting Phoenix Power> Twist Fate > Flare > sleepy time.
>>146693623
Drain 2.
>>146694425
I don't know what you want. There were literally 24 WHs scripted to cast exactly what I said earlier. I looked at the units, and found the difference in fatigue before and after casting. It's a summod game, did you test that?

>>146707296
>Drain 2
>Why is my fatigue higher when spellcasting?
Manual page 42: Drain, All spellcasting generates 10% more fatigue per scale.

>>146707818
>taking drain on Marignon

Shit nigger what are you doing

>>146707296
It's drain doing it.
>I don't know what you want.
I want people to understand that snow does not have any fatigue effect on fire magic. Snow/rain specifics are even mentioned in manual.

>>146707818
Well I guess that accounts for that. I didn't realize Drain added a %, I thought it was some flat amount of fatigue.

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>>146708317
Well, when you need to pay for something like that...

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>>146711125

>>146711125
>Lucifer, Princess of wildlife
Worth every point in N

>>146711125
Absolutely why

>>146683793
They are the best little girl nation

>>146689902
Thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment.

I need to get into a noobie game because after Flatus I have no confidence in my ability to play this game.

If I host a noob game is their interest or did that last one get everyone?

>go to sleep
>wake up and game is full
That was fast.

I'll be starting in 24 hours from now, so make sure your final pretender is in by that point.

Fomoria, I don't think I've heard anything from you. Just a confirmation that you're from around here would be nice.

>>146695445
There was a recent newbie game started, so I wasn't confident in managing to get enough players for another. Also, I wouldn't be able to play if I made it a newbie game.

From what I can see the more experienced players are avoiding strong nations.

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Play your turns

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>>146719558
why is that dog's tummy so fat

>>146720094
fatty fat *wolf*

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LastMAnStanding
6 gods enter, 1 god leaves.

>>146726426
Nations joined so far:
Unexpected Nation

>>146728792
Whats the unexpected nation in MA?

>>146730727
Ys

>>146731231
Nobody expects 2 thousand swans in a fort.

>>146704132
>firbolgs
I sure hope you mean Nemedians

>>146735072
Nemedians are great because of glamor, but if you look at their stats firbolg are almost as good and cost half as much.

Personally I ran N9 and ran mixed sacreds with fomorians to get 2/square

So tell me, would I be able to construct a twisted, corrupt, rotting from the inside out, god-empire?

>>146735856
Nemedians have much better equipment, which makes a big difference.

Comparing Nemedians to the spear fir bolg - their damage is 17 compared to 13, and their attack skill is 15 compared to 12.

Glamor combined with high defense is amazing against indies too. A group of nemedians can easily outperform double their number in fir bolg.

>>146737408
I don't think so.

That sounds more like an EU/Stellaris/CK thing.

>>146737767
That's all true, but I found that in the square-filler role with Unmarked, Nemedians had only marginally lower attrition for a much higher cost.

To be clear, I love Nemedians for all their secondary characteristics - magic weapons, high MR, darkvision, high morale - and they're amazing once you start casting spells. They hit right through stygian rains with their magic weapons so you can use that, their stats become godlike against non-darkvision opponents when that's down, etc. It's only in expansion and with giants doing the heavy lifting that I'd say that fomorians are the better unit to recruit. If you can afford the gold increase, sure get Nemedians so that you'll have more of them later, but I prefered getting my palisades, labs, and temples down sooner to the slightly higher Nemedians numbers before I had the magic to get the most out of them

>>146738641
that firbolg* are better to recruit, I mean.

>>146737408
Sorta. If you run crap dominion, then your lands are filled with turmoil, upheaval, unrest, scorching or freezing seasons, misfortune, magic draining from the lands, and literal death and plague. Most empires try to avoid doing so.

>>146738820
>>146737767
Darn, I was hoping I could create an empire ruled by gluttunous nobles and lords, a land of sin and violence, yet kept in check by the sheer tyranny of it's masters.

>>146739836
That's literally a blood nation with order and sloth, but it's not actually reflected by much other than occasional events.

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I FINALLY FOUND IT

>>146738641
When you said
>firbolgs are great at expanding
I'm fairly sure the guy replying assumed you were using armies of fir bolg, in which case nemedians would work way better for the same amount of resources.

Blessed Unmarked are fine too, but in that case the fir bolg are mostly redundant. I'd expect good expansion results from Unmarked even without square fillers.

>>146739836
Well, if you select the right scales (sloth plus turmoil?) that is happening, you just don't see it.

As a pretender god you don't really care how the lords of each province rule over it, just that they send you gold and soldiers, so the actual effects of scales are abstracted away.

All you'll see is less income, troops taking longer to recruit, and maybe the occasional event related to it. In certain situations you might need to send troops to a province and have them restore order as well.

>>146739836
You don't build your own nation in this game. You pick one, and it comes with its own unit lineup.

>>146739836
if you really want modding the game it's easy. no one is going to join your mp game if it has such a mod, but games where everyone is allowed to bring their mod nations have been somewhat popular

>>146740242
>I'd expect good expansion results from Unmarked even without square fillers.
It's shockingly better with them, honestly. You lose so many fewer sacreds with than without.

>>146740242
>>146742253

Also I wasn't the dude that said Firbolg were good for expanding

>>146716386
Xibalba, is that you?

Pan, whatchu doing? C'Tis is under my protection. He produces death gems for me. Leave his territory at once. You have 1 turn to comply.

>>146744727
I'm Atlantis by the way.

>>146716719

Cool, I'm not sure about my design. I may also want to play Hinnom instead, not sure yet.

thread will died

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>try to carefully test expansion in SP
>this bullshit happens

and the worst thing is that it will never happen in MP.

>>146748235
We're all too busy talking about GoT.

>>146748303
I've done somethign like that, except it was Victor's Villains

>>146745576
As long as it doesn't delay the game, I don't mind you switching to Hinnom.

Please decide in the next few hours, though. Otherwise you're going to need to be around when I wake up tomorrow.

>>146748353
GoT is such a graceless piece of trash. They've killed off everyone who isn't clear-cut good or evil while Kelly C. just gets the entire fucking planet handed to her. They had Cleganebowl perfectly set up for them but the show's writers just hate fun don't they.

>>146749474
>Cersei
>clear-cut good or evil
Uh, what?

what determines if a meele squad act first or later during the same turn in my battle?

i am tired of fliers blocking my elephants.

>>146749632
She's pretty evil, yeah. She even got an evil queen dress.

>>146749632
>Cersei
she's pretty fookin' evil anon. She committed what's probably the biggest mass murder in the history of the Thronesverse to avoid punishment for a whole bunch of other murders and conspiracies. And this wasn't even a war situation like The Red Wedding which was arguably justified, at least from the Frey/Lannister POV. Cersei murdered a whole shitload of innocents for purely selfish reasons. And now just if it wasn't clear enough she dresses in black and chains to show everyone how hardcore she is.

>>146749651
Doesn't the left side of the field always get to move first unless the right side units move into them first?

>>146749651
I wish I knew. As far as I can tell, it's the unit ID. Unit ID is incremented in the order in which the troops were originally recruited, but when a unit dies its ID is reused. Since unit ID is also used among all nations in a game, the low unit ID from some guy that died in another nation might go to a guy you recruit and vice-versa.

I know that's how it works for commanders, and the little testing that I've done with mixed squads shows similar results.

>>146700276
I'm not kicking everyone's ass, just tien chi's, and I'm as surprised about that as everyone else

>>146752403
Also I cannot into name apparently

who is casting fire spells to my lands :(

>>146753445
Abysia maybe?

Also is that new game full already?

WHERE

ARE

TURNS

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>bought game
>"ok let's see how do I play"
>check manual
>450 pages long
>check "youtubers"
>pic related and it goes on for 25 videos of 30+ minutes

Send help.

>>146757936
Check Maerlande's Mictlan let's play and try a few SP games. You can always just press ? for hotkeys at almost any screen. It's not as hard as it sounds.

>>146749810
>Cersei
I agree with most things you've said, though I'm be so sure about her motivations being 100% selfish. It's quite obvious that one of, if not *the* most important reason for doing things she did was her conviction that she's the only person able to protect Tommen.
Also, I'm pretty sure The Red Wedding is still the biggest mass-murder, considering the fact that many of Starks' soldiers outside the castle were killed as well.

>>146757936
A lot of the manual is (outdated) stats on units and info on spells. What is useful to know is the turn resolution order, how combat stats and stuff like siege strength is calculated, the actual game itself isn't hard to play.

>>146758029
>>146758515
What about the nations themselves, I don't exactly have a chance of winning if I don't know what every other nation can do right?

>>146758714
You look at this link
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
and study it well, for it shall become your closest companion if you want to git gud at least

>>146757936
the game has a tutorial you know

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Dude dead game lmao.


Is there a reason why somebody isn't viraling it in steamsale threads? What have you done for Johan, anon?

>>146762154
>Is there a reason why somebody isn't viraling it in steamsale threads?
The majority of people who would have bought this game already have it, it's not as though there are many games like it

>>146749383

Ye, please delete Lanka, Im sending in Hinnom.

>>146762783
>>146762154
honestly we should shill the game a bit.
last year we got a decent influx of people from 4chan thanks to me and few other folks shilling pictures on /v/.

>>146740123
Haha what.

>>146762865
Done.

>>146763708
are we starting today?

>>146763939
Yes, we'll still be starting in 10 hours.

>>146763305
This was an ad on the old illwinter forums, and everybody started whining about "sexual" ads.

>>146763708

Done here too. I may rethink the design a bit but start anytime you feel like it.

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Ok, China. I'll be waiting in 138.
Better hurry.

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>>146764559
Well it's a bullshit ad that has nothing to do with the game. I'm not one to whine about sexualisation or anything, but if that's the way they wanted to go why use a picture of some random slut and not get some high-res artwork of an ingame female unit?

That shit is literally Evony-tier.

>>146763106
What pictures do you shill, anon?

>>146758714
Usually you'll have less than a dozen nations in the game with you, and often only 4 or 5 actually having borders with you.

Most players generally just look up what their neighbors can do and slowly learn what all the nations do that way.

>>146766710
just generic exciting dominions pictures.
apparently they excite 20 year old white video game enthusiast males.

>>146766449
>That shit is literally Evony-tier.
That's the joke.jpg

>>146758714
you just want to take a quick look at what kind of units and what kind of magic your neighbour has and in 2 minutes of checking you'll know what kind of war you are getting into when dealing with him.

the real learning is understanding what are the key spells of the game and what each magical path can do, but it will come with time or just browsing the spells.

>>146767113
Whatever do you mean by generic? You mean the google ones? Wew.

Is there any easy way to find out which mage I used to cast a global? Or do I just have to click through all of them and hope I find him?