/edg/ - Elite Dangerous General -- Second Star to the Right,

>>146534112
NMS in a little more than a month. How do you think Ftroop will draw players back after they jump ship?
NMS has better implemented trade, and more meaningful exploration. The only things elite has on it is actual multiplayer if you can call it that.

>>146534550
Yeah, if you can call it that. Instancing is damned near non functional and everyone plays in Solo anyways. So hard to find people. It's gonna be interesting.

Thing is, Ftroop seems to have their heads so far up their asses they might not be able to recover is NMS does well.

>>146534550
Either they're going to mark Horizons down to 10 dollars or they simply won't. They are delaying updates for their finished product the same way Star Citizen is delaying updates for its incomplete product.

So Sandro thinks "player colonization makes sense". How hard will Sandro and co fuck up colonization? Let's hear detailed scenarios.

I'm getting connection errors every time I try to jump, what the fuck

>>146536753
Yeah, fucking transaction server bullshit.

I just wanna park my ass in Sothis and go to bed.

>>146536046

>spend months gathering materials to build your own station
>station quantum tunnels into vision universe one day
>

Is pretty much how I see that going.

whats going on in sol right now? why are there convoy beacons full of "refugees"?

dunno, check uranus

>>146538914
Space Muslims.

why should i check my anus?

>>146538914
They jumped there from Daramo, passing by every safe system on the way so they could get luxury apartments and free health care in Germany

Surprise too see this alive.
I do this thing were I log in and look around.
Then I realize nothing I do matters and I log off.
So fucking depressing.

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nothing u do will ever matter

>>146535495
>They are delaying updates for their finished product
>E:D
>Finished product
HAHAHAHAHA

Stuck in grind send help

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Will they ever fix these pieces of shit?
They always start out with 00:00 time remaining and prompts a fail message seconds after you receive the first one.

>>146544716
Well, it won't be any time soon. They just haven't had time between their release vacation, E3, post E3 vacation and now their Brexit vacation and I'm sure there's a banking holiday after that

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>>146544903

Mister Anon, will we ever get a vacation from The Grind? It's been ever so long...

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>tfw free from the grind, only vision remains

>>146536046
>seeing as we are half way in season 2
You wot m8?

>>146536046

Consider the amount of materials/difficulty aquiring said materials/time consumed to just upgrade one single module with an engineer. One. Single. Module.

Now consider the size of a space station. Or less ambitiously, a surface station. They won't have to make any "mistakes"; if they design the colonisation system the same way as the engineers, no one will have access to it anyway because it'll be locked behind literally years of grinding for construction materials.

>>146547917
The assumption is they learned engineers was a mistake from some of their most vocal supporters telling them so and they won't be as retarded with stations.

Then again it is FTroop

>>146548127

So they'll slash requirements in half after a month or two of backlash.

>we have good news CMDRs, you know only need to grind 10000 tons of copper for the magnetised locks on your outpost's landing pads :^)
>in celebration of the new update, outposts skins are now on sale, just 4.99 :^)

Hey goys can you post you sothis smuggle boats?

>>146548890
>outposts skins
some how I think this will happen.
I've seen few pirate paints on outposts I'm sure they won't find it troublesome to add more

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10578926
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10578926

>>146549262

Anaconda:
https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda/0prtpFklodCsxf5------1717--------f7050505f504040303032f.Iw18ZlA=.Aw18ZlA=?bn=sothconda

Asp Explorer:
https://coriolis.io/outfit/asp/0phtfFflhdfsnf5----------f604B42t020101.Iw18WQ==.Aw18WQ==?bn=longbus

Both can be made better by inclusion of all D-rated modules (except FSD of course), but this is how I'm using them.

>>146549623
What's the penalty on getting scanned in the conda with a smuggling mission?

>>146550165

No idea, never happened to me. More than I would like to pay, for sure.

Then again, avoiding scans is basically piss easy.

>>146549391
Elite Man's Citizen given we'll have NMS to post about soon.

Guys

Haha

Hey guys

Listen

Guys

Pfff hahaha

I've come up

Guys

I've come up with a new name for the combi-thread

Haha

Guys

Hahaha

Guys

DEAD SPACE GENERAL

hahahahahaha

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>>146551018
ecks dee

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>>146551018
You're not too far off. We had this in September last year.

>>146552125
We caught a few with that.

>>146552125
the sad part is that even then the general was kept alive by confused dead space people

>>146552125

Then why not just reuse that one?

Just make sure to mention elite dangerous/star citizen/NMS in the OP text and we might bring new posters into the general or just incite more shitposting

>>146553776
NMS on release will have it's own general I suppose. Then just wait until playerbase stabilizes to see if they can maintain their own general.

>>146553867

Good point. Though, will a single player-only game be capable of maintaining a general for any length of time?

>>146554097
It's multiplayer

>>146554269

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORFgfhj_hM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m53s

Nope.

>>146554269
Only technically, it's essentially a single player game where you have a 0.00000001% chance to meet another player.

>>146554467
So....

Elite?

>>146554572

Yes, but with even worse instancing. By design.

>>146554097
Ever heard of /sg/ - Stalker general?

>>146554657

And even less player interaction, if any, apparently.

>>146554717

I should've added "without becoming autismal groupthink circlejerks", which would have covered aforementioned general nicely.

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>>146554826

>>146555068

That one too. Undertale general as well.

>>146554269
In the vaguest sense of the word.

You can blunder across another player.
A group of friends can expend the effort to find each other and play together.
But there are no systems in place to allow players across the galaxy to group up and find each other, or teleport to each other.

It is conceivable that months after launch players have managed to set up hub systems, but even then those hubs will be like drops in an ocean.

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do i make a trip to the core, anons?
would it make more sense to go there without engineer upgrades, or should i get them now and then make the trip
keep in mind i haven't got any rep with the engineers yet anyway

>>146555407
Wont take that long if you ignore everything on the way there

>>146554467
>>146554657
I'm actually going to argue that elite at 1.0 and NMS are identical as multiplayer design goes. The only difference that the size of the starting area and the populated area in elite is tiny compared to NMS and supposedly the NMS universe is much larger overall as well.

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>>146553716

>>146553716
Better than the fire emblem general that got turned into 6 other generals at once

>going anywhere with engie mats inside your ship

So much pain

I just landed on a landing pad on a planet.
As in, landed on it like you would land anywhere on the planet, didn't count as landing on the pad.
VISION

Just fuck my general up

So I just got to a system where there are 4 unexplored gas giants with several moons each. Is it worth scanning all of the icy moons to get the first scan bonus?

>>146547048
Right I need some damn sleep. Good to see /edg/ will be staying away from VISION. If I wake up to brabo's smiling face I'll kill myself #SIRA

>>146559624
No.

>>146554269
Do you know about E:D exploration? First one to discover will have your name in it. Yeah that's the only multiplayer thing about NMS, being able to read other players name.

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I think if this one dies we should let it stay dead

>>146563276
whats wrong about cobra

>>146542704
Anon, the point is that ED is marketed as a finished product. Tell me, what looks worse? Delaying updates for a finished product or delays for an incomplete game? I would say that's why I'm a lot more harsh with ED, because they market it like a complete one and keep fucking it up.

>>146547917
>The amount of materials

Didn't even think about that. I was thinking along the lines of arbitrary restrictions and RNG that wouldn't allow you to do x because y.

>>146565269
>>146547917
Also you probably wouldn't just be able to plop down an outpost without sending a ticket or a form of some kind to FD

>>146565269

>marketed as a finished product

It doesn't help that the dads force the "living beta" bullshit.

>>146565394
>Send in a ticket for something that should be naturally occurring in game

Where did it all go wrong?

>>146565567
The equivalent of Gaijin claiming WT has been in beta for 6 years.

>>146549391
Paste this in the next OP so we can settle this. Elite Man's Citizen is also a good option that should be added.

>drempt that I got on my computer
>opened Steam
>Steam was on the E:D hub
>10,5XX in-game

I guess it was because of that announcement of them updating the surface scanners and making engineers less of a pain.
How is that update in real life, though?

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http://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/351660338692569905/

ha ha holy shit guys which one of you was this?

>>146569470

>Python wasnt invited

;_;

>>146569470
(*3*)

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>>146569124
holy shit they just dont know when to stop

>Have you looked at his posting history.. Seems like a very angry unhappy person.

personal attacks based on post history like its reddit cause they have no arguments

>Maybe because the people who enjoy the game get bored of seeing the same topic from the people who don't enjoy the game over, and over, and over again. You don't like it? That's fine. We don't care, because we're having a blast. So if you don't like it, go play something else instead of crying like a baby...

WAAAAH STOP DISLIKING WHAT I LIKE!!!!
>that quite "generic" rant actually, even for griefers. would wounder if thats RSI folks(or their fanboys)behind.

the game is flawless and everyone who dislikes with it is a shill from another game

holy shit i'm pissed
tell me /edg/ are those the enlightened who follow the Vision?

>>146569124

>if you dont have much time to play, elite might not be for you

I have enough time to play EVE and get enough done even after getting home after a day of work, but everything in Elite is so tedious and slow that I just dont bother. That is a huge problem.

>>146571278
Post it there and watch them throw a tantrum.
Followed by your post getting deleted

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>>146572165
was my intention
but the mod closed the thread quickly

>shhh everything is fine the 10 Year Plan is doing wonderful
>Please buy more skins :)
>Praise the Vision!

>>146571278

Yes because those of the enlightened are also "volunteer moderators" and can censor you for so much as implying the game has a bug.

>>146572518

*Mod hat off

We don't censor anyone. Please stop spreading misinformation.

>>146572116

mandatory
>This isn't EVE

It's also a wonder that even Hullo doesn't post much content for this game, but will talk more about EVE.

Most forum dads just cry "this isn't EVE" because they were never allowed to pilot anything in EVE.

>>146572651

well memed CMDR o7

>>146572518
Because steam forums are only for praising the game right?

Thank god for steam reviews.

Can't wait until dads discover /edg/ and apply for jaintor applications to keep the thread open opinions

>>146569470
Who made this?
I'll probably steal this and mess with it a bit, might at least credit the author.

>>146574180
>4chan
>credit the author
wut?

>>146548127

They don't ever learn from their mistakes.

They've been multiplicatively compounding bonus on bonus or RNG on RNG since the alpha tests, resulting in exploits, frustrating difficulty curves or just utterly unacceptable levels of timesink.

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>>146534550
>nms
>depth
>meaningful exploration

>>146572975

It's not even about EVE's gameplay. A lot of people agree EVE is a very time-demanding game and some people stray away simply because of the timesink and content that is gated behind time locks like skill training. After playing both though, EVE gives me more sense of being able to use my time to do something useful, even if that time is very short. In Elite, I basically just fly around or mindlessly collect Engineer mats which, after hours of searching, could turn out to be all for nothing all because of a bad dice roll. I saw a lot of people saying on the forums that Elite "doesnt respect their time" and I didnt quite fully understand what they meant until I thought about it and compared it to other games.

What is the best medium combat ship? FDL? Vulture?

>>146580874

Vulture is small.

And very power-constrained since they didn't buff it like they did the FDL.

>>146580990

Ah, ok. Any other contenders? Python?

>>146582774
FDL is the king. Huge shields, good hardpoints, best speed and maneuverabilty.

FAS is the runner up, it has everything the FDL has except the shields, you have to run it shieldless.

Python and Dropship are both useable, in fact I'm running a railgun dropshit myself at the moment and it's super fun.

>>146565394
First you'll need your player faction to be controlling a system, have a ticket approved by braben, purchase a base design from the cash shop and then you can spend a few billion credits to fund it. Then you'll need to buy and transport a gorillion units of various materials, components and colonists (who are just renamed tourists). This will have to be done in under a certain amount of time or you "abandon construction", and then you'll have to wait for 6 months for it to be built. After this you'll have a station on a planet with 1 small landing pad with no services, but you can buy a station paint job (only 9.99 for each bulding). Now you can start gathering credits and commodities to build additional landing pads and install services so you can actually refuel there. Then you have to keep stocking the station manually untill you reach a certain level that allows trade routes to be added, but watch out for black markets as you cant get rid of them and they cause your supplies to dissapear faster. If you dont keep supply levels in the black the station is abandoned. If all this seems unreasonable its because you're entitled and supposed to have help from other players in your faction, base building isnt ment to be completed by groups of less than 50.

Now you have your own station, so sit back, relax and buy it a faction name paint job for only 5.99. The in game benefits of building a station is your factions name is on it. Just hope a rival faction doesnt take it over or you'll have to start again.

Right on, CMDRs o7

Praise Braben o7

>>146583025

Hm, ok, thanks. I'm guessing they all have shit jump range?

>>146583674
pretty much, FDL has the worst (11ly) and Python has the "best" (around 15)

Streaming ED on twitch atm.

>>146583025
>best speed and maneuverabilty.

FAS is more maneuverable than FDL and has stronger lateral thrusters.

>you have to run it shieldless.

Depends on how long you want to remain in combat. You could put a biweave shield on it as a buffer since it regenerates, but don't invest heavily in shield strength since it's shit overall.

>>146580523

I probably should have been more clear with my sarcasm.

Forum dad defense is broken into a very few select answers when answering to criticism.

>This isn't EVE
>4 pips to systems
>just wait and things will come to you
>you shouldn't grind
>just play the game
>people with money just grief
>he makes youtube/twitch/hitbox revenue because of this game


The dads want the game full of artificial game lengtheners, because they seem to think that is going to keep people buying into the game and supporting continued development. If it wasn't for Sothis runs finally getting me into an Anaconda, I probably would have gone back to apexis daily grinding in WoW, because I get more out of that compared to farming materials that may or may not appear. To the dads we are guilty of liking how other games handle stuff in a relatively consistent manner. We should be forced to enjoy the dad's toy the way they do, even if there is massive potential for the game to exist in a state where the dads are just as happy with the game as rest of us.

>>146587031

Are you a griefer? You sound like a griefer.

Two questions as someone that has heard about this game and is interested in it:

Is the game subscription-based or do I have to pay once to play (And possibly pay for subsequent expansions)?


Is the game (or at least the travelling segments) as god-tier comfy as it looks in the videos I've seen of it?

Patch when?

>>146590229
Single purchase with annual expansions/DLC and cosmetics.

And yeah pretty much, if you like space games give it a shot. Probably don't buy Horizons until you're sure you like it.

>>146590229

You buy the game and you can play for free. In order to do anything Horizons related you need to buy the horizons season pass. Frontier does expansion cycles in "seasons" which are covered by season passes.

You can't buy individual "expansions."

It looks comfy until you have to fly 300,000Ls in real time.

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>>146590791
>And yeah pretty much, if you like space games give it a shot
>tfw just bought a three-month AutismScape membership before finding out about this game

>>146555570
>won't take that long
Devilish

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>>146590229
Pay once to play, but with expansions that arent worth buying. If you want to buy it then wait for the last day of the steam sale as the best prices are then.

Flying about and landing at stations is enjoyable at first, but you do it so much its gets old quick. To get between stations you have to supercruise, the only mechanic to that is learning how long you can be alt-tabbed for before overshooting.

>>146590229
Being comfy in your spess ship is one of the few things that the game does pretty well.

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>have uninstalled the game twice
>kinda want to play again

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>>146569470
>>146574180
guy named Moozipan on reddit

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anyone managed to steal one?

>>146534550
>How do you think Ftroop will draw players back after they jump ship?

they won't

>>146587031
What new broken ways are there for money. I'm getting close to an anaconda.

Also should I even use an anaconda for RES hunting anyway im in an FDL atm

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fixed

https://discord.gg/BCzNXeZ

>>146599105

>no >ASP

>>146599504 Diamondback buffs when? I vastly prefer how they look to >ASP

>>146599593
I want a bigger diamondback with huge mc on both wings

Supercruise is not flying. I want to actually fly my ship without being in an empty void that may or may not have a single thing in it. Fdev needs to start giving people reasons to stay within instances and actually flying.

I haven't played in a long time guys

Class 4 gimballed multi cannons and pulse lasers?

ARE THESE GOOD?

>>146599892
I think theyre both pretty awesome

>>146599892
Yes

>>146600071
>>146600135
Should it replace my fixed plasma accelerator?

>>146600504
Never really liked that. Uses way to much power and really unreliable especially against the new AI

>submit to interdiction
>boost
>jump
>repeat until at destination
COMPELLING GAMEPLAY

What stops you from just cheating in dosh?

>>146601747
What'd the best way? I don't feel like grinding out the last 100mil

>>146601081
It would be much more tolerable if the entirety of the game's time wasn't spent jumping from system to system in supercruise. I can only imagine the board meeting when thinking up that gameplay mechanic

>okay everyone, players will be spending 90% of their time in supercruise jumping from system to system, what can we do to break up the tedium?
>How about unavoidable interdictions?

And thus Sandro was promoted to lead design.

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>>146602386

installed a 1x huge and 1x large fixed burst lazer with thermal shock on anaconda. now every npc drops cargo during fight. i guess the cargo hatch malfunctions because they are too stupid to heatsink?

>>146605742
why burst though? and why fixed?

because anaconda has 7 hardpoints and those 2 on the underside are fixed on mine. much more dmg and i hit just fine.

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>See Terminal Velocity on Steam sale
>Hey I had fun with this as a kid.
>Start it up / fix controls for mouse
>Flying around blasting buildings / ships
>See a hole in ground
>Fly inside
>SHIT SHIT SHIT BOOBY TRAPS GOTTA GO FAST AND DODGE INCOMING FIRE IN A TUNNEL OH GOD I AM BETTER THAN ALL JEDI PUT TOGETHER ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shit, this freaking 1995 game gave me more joy in 15 minutes than elite did in 100 hours.

>>146608881
why burst though? waste of capacitor

>>146553716
Dead people posted?

*x-files theme plays*

>>146609480

My fucking nigga. Loved the fuck out of this game when I was a yougin.

This, Crimson Skies, Descent, and SimCopter gave me my love for flight sims and spess games.

>>146609875
I don't get it.

>>146609642
i have no problems with this 2 fixed bursts with grade 5 charge enhanced capacitor, rest are 2 medium gimballed multicannons, 2 large gimballed multicannons and 2 turreted small pulse lasers

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I love watching the station AI being unable to dock.

>>146612171
[HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE]

>>146612171

Question

What did they change that the protocol for the docking computer, and with that the AI docking/undocking, got so fucked that AI are unable to dock or leave without being blasted by the station? Did the docking computer get an update or something?

>>146612171
the same way they cant handle the new weapon mod effects

>>146612779
AI haven't been able to dock for a while. That is, if you stay in a station long enough they stop functioning properly and the station eventually destroys them as they linger in there doing nothing.

Quality Fdev code essentially.

>>146612779

It's something that came with the AI adjustments and "bug fixes" recently.

>>146612779
It's actually better now than it used to be. Back during release they were unable to navigate the mail slot and would get clumped up

>>146613416

I'd love to see salvage zones. Basically a RES except have salvagers instead of miners, along with rescue craft and pirates trying to pick off salvagers.

I love trying to do the CG when the fucking AI steals my kills.

>>146613697
>Basically an RES

Only if said RES has remnants of stations floating around. I'm tired of the only POIs in this game being asteroids and lone stations.

>>146613867

I've suggested a while back that missions should generate small outposts/stations out in nowhere space that you fight around, along with rock formations and interesting layouts. Kind of take the layout of a lot of CQC maps and work it into the mission system so those would pop up for missions to give them some flavor instead of

>hurr interdict
>hurr CZ in the middle of nowhere with nothing around it
>hurr no battles like in the fucking trailer of the game where you battle around stations

If the dads weren't so anti eve we could have dynamic salvage sites show up at the site of massive fleet battles.

>>146614375
Why don't you go and play eve then huh?

>>146614375

Salvaging is pretty shit anyways. Dads think that destroying a ship and scooping the loot is salvaging.

>you will never rip apart the remnants of a Majestic cruiser with a salvage beam for Engineer parts and rare salvage to sell for huge profits

>>146614569
>Rip apart the remnants of a cruiser

Just gotta suggest this to Fdev. Sounds like another great opportunity for more RNG to be incorporated into the game

>Take mission from someone to get specific components from the remnants of a capital ship
>Get there and start blasting it apart looking for said components
>RNG gives you everything but them components

Fdev and the dads would love it.

>>146614850

I could not give a fuck, atleast it would be something else to do that isn't driving a shitty buggy around flat landscapes or hopelessly clubbing traders praying they drop what I need. They could also make it a thing where you can man the salvage turret yourself.

>go up to a ship wreck
>scan it with a module or something
>it gives you lines or connect-the-dots type thing that you need to cut
>have to be very precise to do it correctly without damaging the components
>can man the turret yourself, which leaves you vulnerable
>cut the piece, scoop up the salvage, rinse repeat

Knowing FD they would make the salvage completely not worth the effort, maybe 200cr a ton or something stupid like that, and they'll make it like mining where you just hit the wreck with your beam and shit flies out, just like mining, because making neat gameplay is hard.

>>146614569
>Find an intact Cutter engine
>Let's see how fast I can make my FDL go.

>>146615748
>You will never splice together various parts that you've found lying around to make a frankenstein's monster of a ship

Muh sandbox.

>>146609720
Fuck I need to play crimson skies again.

>>146609992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPNdWnwuBDI

>>146618071

>sequel never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d284I37695E

>>146614569
>you will never tow a crashed Anaconda and park it at the nearest starport as a project ship to fix up like it was finding a half rusted classic car in a barn
>you will never grin as you feel its power plant shudder to life for the first time in centuries
>you will never laugh as the onboard AI wakes up utterly confused believing the date is 2552

kill me

>>146622136
>on board AI

We're getting into Outlaw Star/Space Dandy shit here now. And I'm 100% okay with this

>>146623014
IIRC There's no "real" AI in Elite because muh "AI is a crapshoot" trope

for fuck's sake

>>146622136

>D-class vessels
>run like shit, malfunction often, can only barely do what their pristine versions can
>find a derelict anaconda, FD makes them rare so obviously not everyone can just find them
>fix it up
>engines sputter and throw flames constantly
>engines will occasionally suddenly accelerate and decelerate on their own
>huge + large hardpoints are damaged beyond use
>can only haul 1/2 of what a normal anaconda can
>cant silent run
>can still make decent money through hauling if youre a poorfag and are careful

Fucking fund it.

>>146623059
Makes sense. Not for any good reason mind you. Just for shit like having docking computers weight a ton and not having any auto pilot.

What's Sothis for?

>>146628205
money

>>146628932
Aight.

Met a dude going there for stacking courier missions for fed ranks.

>>146628205
>>146628205
>>146628205
>>146628205

>>146623243
>tfw you'll never have a lemon of a ship with a tsundere shy AI

why live

>>146628205

>get ship with good fuel capacity, good range and lots of cargo space
>go to sothis
>accept high value transport/smuggle visions
>get money

>>146632278
Is it one where you have to get good relations? Robigo still seems to get me better money

>>146632552
>smuggling slaves

>>146632667
Whatever pays hombre.

>>146632552

Is Robigo up again???

shieeeet

>>146632552
wait, robigo is fixed?

I wonder which chucklefuck over at FD thought the Cobra MkIV was a good candidate for the pirate AI template. Who exactly are they supposed to catch in that thing, and how are they supposed to make a quick getaway?

On a semi-related note, Keelback smugglers have surprisingly high bounties given how weak the ship is.

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>>146632947
>>146633064
Yeah I just did like 6 runs, made 10m.

Also I bought this piece of shit with the profits. Also a Cobra MkIV. I was in discount chinaman space and they were cheap so I decided to waste some money on them. What role could either of these ships fit?

>>146633630
>6 runs
>10 mil

Clarify, because I used to make 4 deliveries with 30+ million worth of profit.

>>146633714
I meant missions and not runs. Also it was only 4.

>>146633630

I'm allied with all the factions there. Time to rev up that wallet.

>>146633630

Viper MkIV makes an okay-ish multipurpose. Cobra MkIV is straight-up useless. 8 internal slots is a crazy amount but everything else about it is so bad that it doesn't matter.

>>146633630
the Viper IV looks like pure sex and is okay-ish at doing a bit of everything

the Cobra IV is garbage

>>146634485
The viper 4 is pretty sub par desu.
Same 4 maneuver of the cobra but without upgraded weapons. Like, replacing the two smalls with 2 mediums would make it good, but it has the same 2small/2med of the viper 3.

Especially considering you can fit a slightly less multipurpose Dback scout for more than double the maneuver and a little bit more jump range at about half the price, or an imperial courier with its massive shields, still more maneuver than the viper or cobra, and arguably the same weapons loadout as the viper (3 med vs 2 and 2)

FTroop painted themselves into a corner with the Cobra 3. They can't balance it as it should be compared to the viper 3 because dads would get mad. The Viper 3 was originally the fastest ship in the game at 500m/s boost, but it was nerfed because dads complained they couldn't escape them in their dadbra.

>>146631862
Gay sex with hats on

>>146635118
The Mk IV makes a good multirole ship. I used to use it as that when I had no money. Worked well for bounty hunting.

Anyone know some good shit where I can get them fuckin' dank exploits like robigo level money? I need an anaconda

>You will never accept a mission in your dropship to deploy marines on a planet and provide fire support

>>146635118
>Same 4 maneuver of the cobra but without upgraded weapons.

The maneuverability rating in outfitting is arbitrary bullshit. The Clipper out-turns a Viper MkIII despite having a score of 2 vs 6.

The Cobra 4 handles very poorly and is slower than a Type-7.

>>146635843
This makes me wonder what Fdad is thinking with the maneuver rating.

>>146634938
>the Viper IV looks like pure sex

Dat engine sound too

>>146635901
All the ships are fucked up stat wise and need a rebalance.

I'm pretty sure whoever they have doing it is just throwing in random numbers or is balancing them based on his personal feelings rather than any logical method.

>>146638079
One thing's for sure, a cheap multirole ship has to be faster than dedicated interceptors otherwise dads might have to fight when they don't want to.

Did the last update nerf pips into ENG? I used to be able to chain boost with 4 pips in ENG but now I'm running out of capacitor.

This wasn't in the patch notes...

>>146638225

>Main game power distributors were too good on eng/sys across the board and have been brought back to 2.0 levels

Yes, it was.

>>146638181
Yeah, during Beta the Viper could boost to 500, but the dads threw temper tantrums because they couldn't escape in their beloved Cobras.

Anyone know where I can find an 8B power plant for my conda? I can't afford an A but I need more power than a C gives, and everywhere I go has every 8 class except for B.

>there is still an ED general
Jesus I still remember making content for you people when this general first started

How can you still play this game

>>146640624
literally no other space games worth playing

NMS space adventures soon though.

>>146640694
So much for the revival of space games

>>146640624
>>146640694

Elite will continue to be mediocre
NMS will have worse multiplayer than Elite
Star Citizen will never be released

>>146638661

Well engineers took that away from them again. My rail courier can boost to 640.

>>146640985
NMS isn't about multiplayer though, unlike elite which used multiplayer as one of its taglines and still struggles to make it a meaningful feature in any way.

>>146641143

I know, but it seems to me like a lot of people expect NMS to be a proper space mmo.

>>146641143
god I wish the multiplayer wasn't so arse in elite, even letting us have an area-wide chat would just allow some goddamn interactivity, rather than this line of sight IM shit.

>>146641404
It's because their publisher is pushing hard that it is while the devs are desperately trying to say that it isn't.

>>146641672

You can't speak in Local?

>>146641672
Hey man if you want eve just go play eve. Elite isn't eve, we don't need a local chat
t. cobradad1972

>>146641719
like, system wide or something, I've never seen someone talk in local, I'll be damned if I know what the arbitrary distance is.

>>146641765
I'd rather fire by aiming my joystick and pulling a trigger rather than selecting the enemy in a drop down menu.

>>146641776

Local is instance-wide, including the SC instance when you're in supercruise.

>>146641404
>>146641704
There's a bit of a disconnect between what the game allows and what systems are in place to support.

NMS certainly allows multiplayer, it's just built in such a way that it's super unlikely to happen, at least in the infancy of the game before people get super long range jump drives.

Elite is supposed to be focused on multiplayer, except it's not really supported in any way and you're outright punished for trying to do missions or trade in groups.

>>146641881
then I am travelling in some fucking dead-ass areas then, I just wander around in my eagle, wandering where the fuck everybody is and then blow up a few bounties.

>>146641963

Go to Daramo.

>>146642056
that where everyone hangs out? alright I'll try heading over there, I hadn't strayed too far from the nublet areas, crippled by far too many options for where to go, countless systems the playerbase could be spread across filled with bugger all.

>>146642312
Players tend to congregate at community goal sites, like the war in Daramo. You can see where CGs are through any mission board.

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>>146642413
Well, this is going to be a bit of a trip.

>>146642623

Might want to upgrade that FSD first.

>>146642804
I've got a 3D on my eagle but uh, I don't entirely understand what the best thing is, I'm actually juggling power draw a little, what do I want, the highest one?

>>146642623
What's your jump range, 5 miles?

>>146643130
almost 9 light years! nobully

>>146642938
Biggest size (3 for an eagle) and highest grade (A). You can see jump min/current/max at the bottom of the outfitting screen. When you go to frame shift drives and browse the shop you can see those numbers change when you hover over the different drives available.

Min is you jump range fully weighed down with cargo and fuel. Current is what you can do at your weight right now, and max is what you can do with zero cargo and just barely enough fuel to make the jump.

Also, fuel scoop if you don't want to get stranded. (dotted lines on the map start where your fuel runs out)

>>146642938
When it comes to modules you always want an A FSD

>>146643428
>>146643292

okaydokey, blew half my money on a new FSD, the uh, line on my map is a lot straighter, and doesn't dot until the last jump.

that was probably worth the cash then, even if I have to turn off a couple things to stop my ship taking a nap.

Pic related: /edg/

>>146643181
How much money do you have? Back when I started the game and I was space-poor and wanted to relocate to another part of the bubble, I would sell my ship and purchase a long-jumper hauler, and then re-buy my combat ship at my new destination. With an A class FSD and D rated everything else, you can reach ~30 LY jump ranges.

I think you only need a few hundred thousand credits for a basic long jumper hauler. A bit over a mil if you splurge on quality of life stuff like the max size fuel scoop it can carry and an A rated power plant so that you run cool near stars while scooping.

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And here we see a local anaconda attempt to take cover from a wild pack of Imperial Cutters. Notice how it cleverly blends in with the local matriarch of its' tribe, the majestic Federal Farragut Battlecruiser. Soon it will leave it's mothers protection to cash in bounty vouchers when the danger has left. Truly fascinating creatures.

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>>146643776

>>146643843
I had 900k, blew 500 of it on the new drive, I like to have at least several times my insurance price, you know, just in case, they musta made bounty hunting less of a pain in the ass cos I can manage it now.

>>146643627
>the uh, line on my map is a lot straighter

The worst thing about having a short jump range is how your course snakes all over the place and makes the route even longer than the difference between a longer jump range would suggest.

>even if I have to turn off a couple things to stop my ship taking a nap

If you're not actively scooping cargo canisters you can just shut off the cargo hatch, or at least set it to a lower (higher number) power priority so it shuts down when you deploy hardpoints. The hatch takes a lot of power on small ships.

>>146643940

They took away their gatling railguns and dumbed them back down to sub-Red-Baron levels.

>>146643940
Ok. You're nearing the point where you can purchase a long jump in a hauler when you feel like flying to the other side of the bubble to follow the community goals.

It's good to have insurance money because we will make fun of you if you die without insurance.

When traveling, make sure that you have a fuel scoop so that you don't get stranded. I generally put at least a small scoop on anything, but combat ships operating at short ranges or trade ships traversing a known route don't need them.

Another thing to remember: KGB-FOAM. Those are the classes of stars that you can scoop fuel from. If your fuel tank starts getting low, open your star map and make a detour to a KGB-FOAM star that is more or less along your route.

my journey begins, warping right up next to stars is as disconcerting as ever.

>>146644763
There's generally not much to fear unless you're jumping towards a neutron star.

That or you get VISIONED into a closely orbiting binary star like >>146592139 . I've heard reports that if the VISION is extra bright, that you can exit inside of the secondary star and just instantly die. That's never happened to me, but I used to have a trade route that looked like it was about to kill me every dozen runs or so.

>>146645075
it still scares the bajeezus out of me sometimes.

specially when I got some kind of red star that seemed to be in negative colours or something.

oh yeah, also I'm arriving at birkeland now, journey done!.

>>146645075
I've plowed right through the secondary in a binary system before. Fortunately they orbited far enough apart that I didn't actually stop inside it. There's a second "surface" texture under the corona once you clip through it, then nothing once you clip through the second surface.

>>146645276
>some kind of red star that seemed to be in negative colours

So a class L brown dwarf then?

>Take a cutter from full to 20% on my own
>AI piles on him for the last 20%
>I'm still firing into him for the last 20% and when he dies
>LEL CAPSHIP KILLSTEAL

Fuck the dads this is fucking retarded.

>>146645276

The feds are close to winning that war so if you're in it for the credits you'll want to fight on their side and turn in combat bonds at Knights Port.

Even just making it out of the bottom 1% of contributors on the fed side means you'll make over a million credits.

>>146646898
Turn in a mil in bounties and it puts you in the top 25% too.

But every CG just highlights the problem. They're perpetually one sided because the instant one side eeks ahead everyone jumps ship to that side to rack up the biggest reward.

>>146643878
>>146643776
Found a redditor

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*masturbates in the background*

what ship should i buy after the sidewinder i got for free?

>>146651880

>>146561961

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>>146651880
Anaconda

>>146561961
>>146652007
also i jumped too far and looks like i wont have fuel to get back, what do i do?

Is the "400 gorrilion stars" meme legit? How much of the galaxy has been explored?

>>146647271
They need to hand out rewards that aren't comparable. Something you choose because you really want it, not caring about who wins in the end. Such as RANK

Oh shit did i just come up with a way to lessen the grind? I'm so sorry Brabo

>>146652074
Call the fuel rats, google it. They'll come fill you up.

Or you can self destruct on the right menu under functions.

>>146652159
It's more like 100,000 stars from NASA data, sprinkled with "famous" stars, and the rest is procedural generated. Less than 1% has been explored. Devs once said it would take hundreds of lifetimes to explore it all, even if the entire playerbase was perfectly exploring.

>>146652216
>fuel rats
how much do i have to pay? wouldnt be cheaper to kill myself?

>>146652302
Has the community encountered ayy lmaos yet?

Not a player, which is why I'm asking

>>146652309
It's free, they just like refueling people for fun. Usually pretty quick response, try it out anon. post pics

>>146652370
Yes. And no. Not live ones.

>>146652370
Not really. There are "alien artifacts" that you can find on certain planets or in rare USS (barnacles and Unknown Artefacts). There's a couple spots in the galaxy that are forbidden (permit only, but cant get permit), and players suspect that's where the aliens will be once FD unlocks it.

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>>146652374
i was cruising around and found some signal, no fuel tho

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>>146652679
You won't find any fuel like that.

Ya have to go to fuelrats.com and talk to them if you want fuel. They'll invite you to a wing or friend you, then you just follow their instructions.

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>>146653104
got some

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>>146654084
+rep cmdr!!!!

dumb game

eve is better

>>146654676
point and click excel simulator is fun

>>146654676

Comparing Elite and EVE is silly because all they have in common is space and multiplayer. Theyre totally separate beasts.

Its better to compare Elite with Freespace or the X series.

>>146655198
>X series

Oh how i WISH we had deep xenon sectors to explore
Some of them were just WTF
Actually tried looking up a video of the interesting unknown sectors but nobody seems to have made a video about it. There series is just too old and nobody cares about rebirth

>>146645276
Brown dwarfs are harmless (unless you're fuel scooping and out of fuel in which case you're shit out of luck, but you'll get to that later) and generally speaking you should be more careful with white stars, those could be neutron stars or white dwarfs.

>>146656817
But X is basically EVE-like Excel Simulator onli offline and without cockpits since X3, and this is bullshit.

>>146654676
But I'm a poorfag so I can only afford elite

Sothis grinding has finally allowed me to buy a conda. What now?

>>146660683
Grind five times harder and A rated it

I'm coming out of supercruise onto resource extraction sites and i'm in the middle of no where, mass locked and about 90.9.km from the site, which is seemingly no where near the gas giants ring. What am I doing wrong?

>>146660683
Grind Sothis with your Conda.

>>146660740
And then?

>>146660776
10 times harder for a corvette

>>146660776
Fit it for exploration and explore until the aliums/reapers invade the bubble or you're bored.

>>146660851
>>146661283
Ah well I suspected as much. Might as well get it battle ready in case some fucking fun is ever injected into this game.

anyone wants to help a poor guy with a Diamondback Exp at Daramo?
i have some massacre mission to complete but this ship has no shield basically

id: tacticaldrop

>>146660756

And you're dropping in via the correct manner?

>>146659996

>muh spreadsheets

stop this meme

>>146661391
Might as well do some exploring first rather than other way around though, if you've got Horizons and get lucky at engineers with some hardpoint upgrades (that you can't store at stations) you might kick yourself for giving up that 50+ ly jump range.

Or maybe you'll be swimming in money and build several Conda's for various roles.

>>146662143
Worked it out, apparently the ships hadn't appeared yet but I was in the right place.

>>146663763

VISION o7

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Remember this is a simulator.

>>146668714
>simulating something that doesn't exist
nice one forumdad

>>146668913
Nah, you can take a simulator role for things that don't exist. I think what that anon is trying to point out is that nothing about ED is actually simulator.

whats up with this super space nerdy girls in this elite forum?

>>146670121
They aren't girls, they're 60 year old British men.

>>146668714
>WW2 aircrafts in space
>Simulator
Fucking casuals.

tfw you will never hunt 60 year old white bearded british men playing on 50 inch ips panels and 9000 brexitgold equipment in your /edg wing

>>146670405
>if you stay in the blue zone you turn faster
>yaw
>simulator
hmm...

>>146670405
>no energy conservation
>no drag
>ww2 aricraft with directional thrusters

it's a glorified jousting tournament in space if anything

>>146671805
>Drag in space

Wait, what? Why?

>>146671949
there is no drag, that's my point. It can't be a ww2 aircraft simulator without the things I pointed out, drag amongst them

>>146646898
so whats the process for fighting for a side? just show up on a battlefield and start blowing away imperials?

>>146672104
Select faction from functions tab and that's it.

>>146672729
I don't get it, it just says none and activating it does nothing.

>>146672908
You in a conflict zone, right? I've noticed that shit is just another bugged feature.

>Hop into CZ in my "home" system
>Join faction
>Said faction all begins shooting at me
>Leave and option to join faction is completely gone
>Leave and return again, this time works

>>146673183
I'm in daramo, docked at knight station, I want to get these combat bond thingies. what do, I've never done anything other than prowl asteroid belts for crims before.

>>146673295
You've got to fly into the Combat Zone. From there you can select your faction. If shit's fucked either relog or supercruise out and back in.

>>146673448
ah okay, now to find a combat zone.

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>>146673642
Have fun grinding.

So, I'm in the phase of this game where I actually need money. Is there a quicker, less boring way to do it than hauling?

>>146673897
one or the other. If you got a combat ship you can do "assasinate deserter" missions in systems at war, they give you ~5 mil per 30min, and are more exciting than hauling

>>146673897
Umm... That's all the phases until you have an A-rated Corvette.

What's your asset value?

>whinge
>whinging

What the fuck does this mean

>>146674175
15mil...

>>146674175

Scratch >>146674347 it's closer to 22mil. I do have two different ships now though, a DBS fit for combat and a Cobra fit for hauling so my asset is kind of spread thin across two different ships with mods.

>>146674320
Whinge? It means complain, basically, but in a really fucking annoying way.

>>146674547
trash the dbs and get an A fitted vulture, it's around 10mil

do assasination missions >>146674109

>>146673763
>kill whole bunch of guys
>get a bond for only 1 of the kills.

>>146674547
>>146674347
Go full ASP and do Sothis runs.

got around 32 mil
Assault ship and A rating ?

>go to Knight port
>join the federation war
>get told to go hand in bonds for the empire at birkeland
?????

what.

>spend 5 minutes killing an annoying pirate
>feds turn up and steal the kill
>no bounty

fucking feds, why couldn't I have been born in the glorious empire?

>>146676468

You sure you joined the feds? You can join either community goal at any port. What matters for contribution is where you turn in the bonds.

Also avoid the combat zone with the cap ship. It may be safer if you're on their side but capitals can steal your kills.

>>146677583
I only saw one, looks like I joined the imps, fuck.

might as well get the participation reward I guess...

>>146675340
its around 60mil to a-fit the FAS

I've stopped playing this game ever since it would make my graphics suddenly go to a singular color on the screen and freeze (sound would still carry on as normal and the computer would still process things, just the visuals were just a flat colors)

Did they ever fix it? Elite Dangerous is the only game that does it.

>>146678121
Sounds like a personal problem

>>146678121
>Did they ever fix this very specific bug that I have

Good question.

>>146677745
Of course you did, the feds are done. 100% completed.

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>>146677946
just noticed i don't even have midmememan with the Feds, how do i fix this?
also any ship i should get then?

>>146680212
do charity missions at a federation system that gives them out (used to be Tun, a long time ago, don't know where people farm ranks now)

try vulture, around 10mil for an a-fit

>die to sudden capital ship out of nowhere.
>start heading back to combat zone because goodbye every single combat bond I had
>random arsehole interdicts me and blows me out the sky in one volley

boy this sure is FUN.

like what did that even accomplish, I'm a pissant in a poorly equipped eagle

>>146680436
Done, whats the best config?
i normally use pulses and a multicannon, but these 2 large slots are a problem, dont know what to fit

>>146681069
you can go 2x pulse or 2x multicannon if you want to play it safe, or 2x plasma accelerator if you want fun

>tfw no friends
>tfw the only wings you've every been in are with fuel rats while being rescued
>tfw space is so much bigger when you're alone in it

add me please
CMDR name: Mr Skelly

What happend to that /edg/ list of players some anon was doing?

>>146680957
>grind rare runs for about 20 hours
>buy better equipment
>Resource Extraction Site for big safe monies
>get bored with game

>>146680957
You wanted to go where other players are. That's what it's like.

>>146681069
1 beam, 1 multicannon. Fuck symmetry.

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>>146563276
What, you aren't enjoying the majestic looks and sounds of your iCourier?!

I sold my A-Vulture the moment I got Imperial rank for it, because soon after the Engineers update, I got griefed by FDev.

They dropped FAS and later Gunship (over ~10000 and 400 spacebux bounties respectively) both of which were a little above my "competent" rank (masters?), which as I think, never posed a trouble before I went on a months-long break from the game.

And both fights were completely frustrating: can't outmanoeuvre them, my bi-weave shields are gone barely in a couple of passes—and, worse, immediately followed by: "thrusters offline", "module malfunction". Military grade composite bulkheads? Hull reinforcement package in every field? Nope, they just gave me more time to get upset about the whole affair.

But iCourier was like a balm on my wounds. Beautiful, fast... and with cheap insurance. Since the system that was promised to be good for Imperial rank grind entered boom state which replaced "fuck up those neutral bases" with a multitude of courier missions, the ship served its purpose.

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the irony kills me

How can you tell if someone is a player or NPC? I can't tell if i'm being shit on by NPCs or not and it's embarrassing.

>>146685445
Yes this is an appropriate portrayal of a typical dad

>>146685637
players are hollow boxes on the scanner.

>>146685637
Players have CMDR in front of their names and on mini map they appear with empty rectangle while NPC's have full rectangle.

This is the exact reason I stopped griefing ervate because sidewnders there don't even know who it was and it gets boring

>take cargo delivery mission
>show up at target destination, request docking and approach mail slot
>suddenly, mission message
>new destination star system LOL
>target starport is 150,000+ Ls away from jump in-point

S H I T G A M E F A M
H I T G A M E F A M S
I T G A M E F A M S H
T G A M E F A M S H I
G A M E F A M S H I T
A M E F A M S H I T G
M E F A M S H I T G A
E F A M S H I T G A M
F A M S H I T G A M E
A M S H I T G A M E F
M S H I T G A M E F A

Does upgrading your sensors increase the range you can scan planets from?

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>>146687415
DONT TALK SHIT ABOUT THE VISION YOU HEATHEN

>>146688512
No, for that you want a better discovery scanner (optional internal)

Are Sothis runs still good money in an anaconda?

>>146689559
Yeah you can hold even more shit in cargo.

>Jumping around LYR space looking for a station with a FDL
Why can't I just call them? Why do I have to fly all the way out there?

places to grind federation rep?