/twg/ - Total War General

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

JUST

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>The fucking bong shitposting

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>>146490502
>>146490502

SUMMON

>>146490578
THE

>>146490625

ELECTOR

>>146490657
CUNTS

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>>146490560
>bringing it up
Is this it? Is the thread busted?

Brexit brexit England cucks police state economy pound sterling trade Empire rule Britannia Brexit Jews imports globalists brexit liberal tears tyranny something brexit

There, now no one needs to discuss it here.

Does warhammer have dynamic music, I havent noticed any

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>tfw no medieval 3

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>>146490570

CUTE ADVISORS DLC PACK FOR WARHAMMER WHEN?

What DLC to buy for R2? What for Attila?

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They just sit there and slowly accumulate stacks

>>146490746
You're such a fucking retard, everyone knows that economy banks globalisation free market trade deals norway switzerland

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>>146490560

Someone lecture me on the lore of Chaos.

>>146490959

chaos just wants to have fun

>>146490898

Any faction your ancestors might have lived in

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>>146491021
>implying I have ancestors

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>>146490959
Read that shit up yourself you lazy fucking cunt

Empire had the objectively best advisors

>>146491021
Lombards it is then.
>>146491064
Don't answer for me shitposter-kun

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I finally get the memes
I made two charges wit my general

Why do Saxons suck SO MUCH in Attila?
it hurts to be a continental Lower Saxon.
First we get genocided.
Then CA makes fun of us.

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>>146491168
>shitposter
y

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING ______________________________Brexit :^)

>>146490919
Good, GW shills who play as Chaos deserve to get stomped.

>>146491264

sauce

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>>146491021
>tfw from a tiny irrelevant part of the world that will never ever be even mentioned in total war
my shekels are 100% safe

>>146490898
>What for Attila?
Empires of Sand, The Last Roman and Charlemagne are the only ones worth buying, celts and slavs are pretty unique, but slavs are too OP to be fun.

>>146491384
You forgot your anime head pic, anon-kun.

>>146491428
Dagashi Kashi newfag

>>146491384
You forgot the anime picture.

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>>146491384

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What does it mean when the bar is lined like this rather than 2 solid colours?

>>146491458
Are you from polinesia or something?

>>146491521
It means the general on your side is too low level and isn't sure.

>>146491458

What made slavs OP?

>>146491539
no, much more irrelevant place

>>146491205
>Why do Saxons suck SO MUCH in Attila?
they are pretty bad in multiplayer, but in SP they are really good, since they have no obvious weaknesses, the start can be tough on legendary since franks and langobards attack on like turn 5, but after that its a breeze

>>146491651
Poison arrows mostly

I hate fighting Vampire Cunts.

Do they have any weaknesses that Empire can exploit?

>>146491652
>no, much more irrelevant place
Uhhh
Africa?

I know I'm total shit at these games, but i'm having so much trouble surviving realm divides in Shogun 2.

I have a Hojo campaign where I've become shogun and have almost a lot of provinces but the ones I got recently are all miserable fucks who are about to revolt though I'm not even taxing them.

How do I get good?

>>146491802
Need more demigryphs

>>146491829
Get all the sweet public order research, make sure they don't have a food shortage, convert them if necessary.

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>>146491820
I live in Chechnya

>>146491651
poison is stupidly strong, just look at the casualties in the pic you replied too and how they dont add up at all, the rest is done by poison, it also makes any unit it hits permanently exhausted, which is a huge penalty

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>>146491343
:^)

>>146491652
Compare them to Franks though.
>that faction bonus
>stupid strong charge cavarly that can break tier 3 pike formations without taking any significant casualties in head on charges

>darren streaming radious
britbongers are doomed

>>146491802
Any strong Empire army should handle a VC stack or two with little issue. It's only when they spam 3+ it gets troublesome.

Checking Attila requirements and apparently I should be okay, but all the talk about bad optimization is making me worried. Can a 660 gtx Ti really run it decently?

Been out of the loop for a while. Huge Warhammer fan, really enjoy Total War as well.
Is TW:WH worth the cash?

>>146492230
i think it could do it on medium

>>146492230
I run Total Warhammer + all previous games on medium - high settings just fine on a 680, at lower settings you'll be fine.

>>146492293

Yes, it very good.

Get it on GMG for 20% off.

It has problems but it's quite fun.

>>146492293
If you like Warhammer and Total War a lot you'll probably enjoy Total Warhammer
There's a 20% sale on it at GMG

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3 KINGDOMS TOTAL WAR WHEN?

>>146490759
A fight against the VC as Orcs had the Orc music playing for me until the VC got the upper hand, then it was just the VC tune playing.

>>146492293
They just announced that the second game (which acts as an expansion to the one currently one, increasing the map and adding more factions/races) is getting a content boost since the first sold so well.

Over the years they're just going to add more and more content into one big playable game. Still cheaper than tabletop.

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>>146491985
>tfw in 200 hours of WH TW I have never been able to get a Heroic victory like this
I just dont understand, I could do it in Empire and sometimes Shogun, but in this game I just cant win when outnumbered.

>>146492553
t. the only actual traitor of the big three

>>146491802
I played Empire for my first campaign and almost never had any problems dealing with VC (and stacks). I'm playing VC campaign now and having problems when dealing with semi varied empire troops.

I mainly aim to kill/wound the general first, and try to not get my troops not surrounded by zombies. Basic skeletons seem to be weaker than your swordsmen/pikemen, and your cav and artillery will wreck havoc in their infantry lines.

For flying units, I use hellblaster and my flying general. Try sniping enemy lords with witchhunter accuse.

>>146491825

>It wasn't ''cheesy'', it was realistic (if you don't take into consideration the awful AI that never used its own number to its advantage or did fucktarded choices like sending his entire army inside the city before he even had secured the area by the towngate)

So what you're saying is that if you disregard the actual game then it was good and """realistic"""

Hate to say it bruv, but multiplayer is irrelevant, if sieges break the AI then sieges themselves are broken.

>>146492553
like 20 % of that was actual words the rest was gibberish.

>>146492025
well germanic roster in general is better then nordic roster (the one saxons have), but saxons still arent that bad, heroic cavalry is good melee cav and chosen warriors fight well and fight till the last man due to their insane morale value

also saxon units look really good, but aesthetics are subjective admittedly

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>>146492553
I remember seeing a mod in alpha or something for RTW a while back but don't know if anything came of it.

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>>146491985
Post your greatest victories
One of us in the wreckage man need not apply

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>>146492640
>Total War Tactics

>>146492640
It's all about the quality advantage. If you have that all you have to do is to deploy so they can't use their numbers well and micro your cav a bit.

>>146492773

There's one for M2 but I heard it wasnt good or somethin'

>>146492813
>"M2 sieges were perfect"

>>146493030
M2 everything was perfect and if you don't agree you are the newfag cancer killing /twg/ :(

>>146492640
It's easier with Chaos who have smaller and higher tier armies. Also, going for reinforcements before they reach the main army can be an easy way to do it depending on what direction they're coming from.

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>>146492804
I already posted the slavic victories, but they dont count since they are extremely OP, so here goes a more sensible one

its not the greatest one I had, but its one of the few I kept a screen of

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>fantasy game
>still no elves

Literally one job CA

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>>146492804

>after a bloodbath between our armies, the enemy artillery just camped at the edge of the map for some reason
>was too scared to attack them with my half dead army
>wait for an hour to pass expecting a heroic victory
>tfw draw

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Neither of these fucking factions exist, why aren't they removed from my god damn book still. It's getting impossible to clear my book when this shit won't get removed.

>>146493442
>draw
???

Just got Total War: SHOGUN 2, where do I see how much influence I have in a province?

>>146493442
How do you use crossbowmen to their maximal potential?

>>146493554

battletimer made it a draw i guess

>>146494140

heavy bolts to their flanks

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>>146493479
> complete every long game requirement
> last grudge
> severity 20
> assassinate a Border Prince character
> Border Princes don't exist
> throw Tilean public order for a loop trying to get a Border Prince rebellion
> my allies are at war with Tilea and decide to attack with several stacks agasint the rebelling city
> can't call them off
> anyone can fight rebels with no penalty, no chance at diplomacy
> rebels are killed off
> city in ruin
> Tilea won't resettle because the other Dawi have gone on an absolute warpath and raze everything

>>146493479
Call it day, you practically won. The grudge system is not done well right now.

>>146490768
No need for Med 3 anytime soon when Bannerlord comes out in [Spoiler]soon™ :)[/spoiler]

>>146494660
>>146494552
It's a shame, because the Grudge system was a neat concept to include, but the way it works now is you just get penalised for not punishing every single trespass against you within like 5 turns.

>>146493479
i've had a grudge removed from the book for being impossible to complete so idk what thats about

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>>146492804
Ayyyy gunpowder.

>>146494889
>>146494876
Certain grudges, seemingly assassinations against [x], don't remove when they become impossible. It seems like a bug or something.

>>146493864
pls help i've tried googleing it

>>146493864

What do u mean by influence? Shogun II doesnt have an influence system as far as I can tell

>>146495467
There is an influence system in RotS, which is probably what he's referring to.

>>146495467
I need over 50% influence to use one of my agents in an enemy city. I don't know how much influence I have however and I can't see where it tells me.

Why the fuck do loading screens take 3-5 minutes?

What the fuck is wrong with this dumbass game. Graphics are shit anyways

When did /Twg/ turned to shitpost gen?

>>146495620
Try the details tab for the settlement.

>>146495671
>2016
>not having an ssd
Takes like 5-10seconds for me my nigga

>>146495671
This has been an issue with every TW game so far. Better get a SSD

>>146495774
ssd?

>>146495926

It's a type of sexually transmitted disease

>>146495926
Solid State Drive

>>146495926
You can get a 120ssd for like 40$ and 240 for 70$. They are getting cheaper and cheaper. If you don't even game a lot it's prob the best upgrade you can give to your pc

>>146496423
omfg why didnt i know that before i bought this game

>pyrrhic victory
I did a goof

>>146496423

I had Shogun 2 on an SDD and it was a sublime experience.

>>146496636
You will find out in a turn or two

>>146496636
Doesn't even matter in newer games since unit regen automatically free of charge :-)

>>146496782
Boy was I in for a meme awakening when I played M2 for the first time after getting into the game with Shogun and Rome 2

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>>146491264

Welp, time to look up the Hirame doujin again. Every fucking time.

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How hard am i going to get memed on?

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>>146496636
look at the bright side: pyrrhic victory means the fight was fun

>>146496636
bett er than a pyrrhic defeat

>>146494945
Those units aren't Radious, aren't they? He's not that creative

Is it me or are there too many sound effects when doing things in the overworld? The constant SHWWWIIINKKK and BWWWWMMMM noises whenever you click anything is getting on my tits, along with the war chants too.

>>146497369

No, I'm using Darthmod with two unit packs.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=150018206&searchtext=unit+pack

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=107452725&searchtext=unit+pack

>>146496782
>can take 12 turns to replenish a unit

Sure it's not a problem.

>>146497630
Only if you a chaos cuck who didnt CORRUPT before hand. Never had it more than 5 turns m8, and that's when I was fighting battles in between and raiding and shit. Game is easy mod.

>>146497967
Wasn't even talking about WH

>>146497564
>S2 darthmod

>ranged units cant even shoot the broad side of a barn

>>146498143
then you are in the wrong thread m8

>>146497630
>combine units
>buy new ones
>full stack 1 turn later

wew

>>146498225
do you expect a slit eyed gook to operate actual western technology?

man, I feel like I blietzkrieged Sassies too fast, took them out in like 20-30 first turns, and now there is no real rival left. If I'll ever bother playing another ERE campaign I think I'll just defend for the first 100 or so turns, maybe then the sassies will have an actual army

Did anyone at CA have a heart attack at the result today?

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>>146492640
>play dwarfs
>go through underway in enemy territory
>get heroic victories
pretty easy family

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>There were soldiers fighting against Napoleon taht weren't even born when Louis XVI was executed.

I wonder what's it like being born in a time of war and never having experienced peace.

>>146498225
I take it you operate entire armies of levy infantry?

>>146496887
>that many chariots
memed to oblivion

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>>146498564
This one was a bit thougher as I was outnumbered around 5:1

>>146498584
During the pelopenesian war there was an entire generation born into war torn greece. Apparently persians reported that greek soldiers would casually mutilate bodies and weren't phased by anything.

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>>146498584
You could say that they lived their entire lives in Total War

Why do people say Gyrocoptors are bad? I'm using them in a few of my stacks right now and they absolutely fucking decimate VC, Orcs and Chaos. Just a couple of them to run down fleeing units makes it far easier to keep your lines where you want them so you aren't chasing shit down before it rallies back.

>>146499247
are brimstone gyrocopters better than the normal ones or nah
i just know that the gyrobomber is shit
so far the only non-infantry thing that is good had been the organ gun

>>146499247
Their stats are just bad in general, they lose to bats for fucks sake. Bombs require too much micro. They ARE good for running down units and striking against armies with little to no range, but that's about it.

>>146499247
>and they absolutely fucking decimate
>decimate

sounds about right then

>>146499247
>enemy has even one air unit
>gyros are completely fucked

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>>146499695

>>146499247
The bomber aka aoe damage version does next to no damage and the regular one is absolutely awful against any unit with more than a handful of guys thanks to the hitpoint system.

>>146498309
>>146498592
in darthmod they cant even aim the honorabru yumi bow and arrow

>>146499847
Darthmod is the BR version of Radious, idk when people here started recommending his mods but it must have started as a joke and eventually people took it seriously.

Why does every new tw have fewer and fewer units. Age of charlemagne was pathetic in unit diversity

>>146498768
>Sokrates was a badass hoplite

>>146499847
>Fall of the Samurai
>Using traditional units

>>146499979
warhammer turned it around though
and charlemagne was just a minor campaign dlc

>>146499979
The 9th century was pathetic in unit diversity.

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What if the next historical game is Empire 2, but it's divided into two or three games/expansions like Warhammer, but enough to cover the entire Earth? What if it were Medieval 3 with the same sort of system?

>Grudge
>get a level 15 Engineer to prove the superiority of Dwarves
These little shits are so sensitive. Id rather just burn Nuln to the ground then this .

>>146500805
What the fuck is "CE"?

>>146500805
What Empire needs is a national union formation system like Paradox gsg's have.
Owning all of Germany as Saxony and still being called Saxony drives me up the fucking wall.

>>146500805
If they make Empire 2 they need to set it in the 19th century.

>>146500942
The fedora version of AD

>>146500805
>implying it won't be medieval

>Install attila
>ERE on legendary
>first turn
>wipe visigoths in a siege
>build up makes more dudes
>3 turns later i get invaded by 2 full stacks
>Even if i beat them which i probably could
>all the provinces have a -8 penalty to public order because of the difficulty
>I only have income for 1 building a turn and nothing else
>sooner or later everything is going to revolt no matter what
>Uninstall
fuck this shit

Is WH any good?

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>>146500805

>History

....zzzzz....

>>146501290
>anon isn't good
>anon tries for first thing the highest difficulty of the game
>"this game sucks"

>>146501523
>game adds artificial bullshit to make you progress slowly and deal with menial annoying bullshit
>Anon sucks
the game sucks, its essentially forcing me to downside the empire for no fucking reason other than to give the AI time to become strong

fuck that

>>146501790
Its the same on all TW games now git gud

>>146501523
wait, wait, lemme try

>>146501290
>install attila for first time
>choose one of the hardest factions on hardest difficulty
>complain about said difficulty settings making his gameplay too hard
>expect the enemy to sit around and let an already rich empire grow and expand in a period defined by the absolute dicking of Rome
>cry about it

>>146501790
The AI doesn't need time to get strong m8, it always cheats

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people who think that medieval will be the next historical game are fucking retarded
CA has literally said that we wont be seeing a medieval 3 for a long long time
so either its like 2020 when it comes out or they make victorian era or pike and shot or chink total war

>>146500058
FOTS, ROTS, Sengoku campaign ranged units all useless with darthmod with their insane inaccuracy, senpai

Well, at least not as ridiculous as morning sun korea+china archers shooting to the sun

>>146501873
no its not. I had no problems in med 2 or rome 1

>>146502049
Its not hard hard its ""pls don't steam roll this in a few turns hard"

>>146502126
>waahh, why can't the game just be an uninterrupted march to victory from turn 1 onward!

>>146501290
>What you described
>Hard
you are like a little baby. Not until you have 3+ stacks chasing you out of your home while a little stack razes your villages may you complain.

Are sieges bugged? Start siege -> build battering ram (1 turn) -> next turn rolls around and it's still in the construction queue, so I can't attack.

>>146502368
>why can't it be a challenging experience where each and every of my inputs is of utter importance and the difference between victory and defeat from turn one to the end?
>why there must be something outside of the control and outside of the game's rule set that arbitrary changes how the game is developed

>>146502552
im complaining its not hard but tedious
>wipe enemy stacks
>when this is done then im going to have to face a bunch of rebellions after htat more enemy stacks
>repeat for a billion turns
>I have no decision power over anything
>most of the battles are going to be cheesing with my garrison vs a full stack
Generals only armies killed the game

>>146502709
>why there must be something outside of the control and outside of the game's rule set that arbitrary changes how the game is developed

Because you literally selected that for yourself before the game even started, wise one. CA didn't make you pick legendary difficulty, and saw the wisdom in providing four other difficulties for people like you. It's entirely on you that your provinces get slammed with a permanent -8 public order, so like everyone's told you, git gud at dealing with rebellions or stay casual.

>>146503053
I want the AI to be strong and pose a challenge i don't want stupid retarded arbitrary penalties, specially one that basically makes the game utterly tedious

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>tfw no M3 for next historical title
I just wanted to Deus Vult some

>>146503157
Then find the mod that fixes it and stop crying

>>146503232
no because if i get the mod ill steamroll the game

>>146503334
>I want things
>but I don't want to get them, see
>I just want them

>>146501290
>ERE has both the money and technology necessary to fix the public order penalty in a couple of turns
>Starts with only one exposed region, the european portion of the empire. Sassanids will take a while to declare and most other regions are decently manned against enemy incursions.
>Can actually sign a no-aggression pact with the Huns and other nomadic tribes, the only ones capable of giving you any trouble due to the Scourge of God morale penalty.
What a whiny bitch

>>146503427
>Get no public order shit
>build army
>conquer egypt
>Steamroll the Sassanid
>autowin

>>146503539
>No it doesnt before some regions rebel
>to 3 different groups who come with multiple full stacks
>dropped the game before getting there

>>146503665
>game is too easy without public order shit
>game is too hard with it

Which is it faggot, you can have either with mods. The battle difficulty will stay the same even if you mod the public order crap.

Patch when

>>146503665
>No it doesnt before some regions rebel
You have what, 5 turns before the first region rebels? Cover up any regional food shortage, burn the fucking churches down and build Governor Palaces + Amphitheatres instead.

>to 3 different groups who come with multiple full stacks
Just sit a couple of Generals + Spearmen there. Migrating hordes can't siege for long without getting broke. I held the easternmost province in WRE with a General alone for the first 10+ turns due to this fact.

Git gud.

Having tons of fun in Warhammer right now, but contemplating on buying Attila, is it worth it?

I run Warhammer in a 750ti/ I5 3330 with no problems, should I be able to run Attila ?

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how do you use blasting charges without blowing up your own units?

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>people actually have problems with WRE legendary after the corruption nerf

Do bots ever attack a city with walls head-on?

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Hey, while we're talking about Attila; I really like the idea of the Ostrogoths. They have interesting troops on their own and I love being able to get Roman units.

I've heard Spain is ideal for migrating, but I don't want to play a whole campaign on easy mode and get burnt out on them. Illyria is too hard for me, the Huns get right on my ass and AI WRE shits out stacks, plus every migrating tribe passes through my land and raids and pillages without any consequences. Where should I go?

>>146503780

>game is too hard with it
>game is too tedious with it
FTFY

>>146504283

>You have what, 5 turns before the first region rebels? Cover up any regional food shortage, burn the fucking churches down and build Governor Palaces + Amphitheatres instead.
Don't have enough money to do this AND building an army

>You have what, 5 turns before the first region rebels? Cover up any regional food shortage, burn the fucking churches down and build Governor Palaces + Amphitheatres instead.
>Literally 2 stack in to 2 stacks in the first 4 turns and got declared war by the 2 cunts in egypt

>>146505492
Mainland Italy or across the med and set up in Egypt.

>>146505630
That still doesn't change what I said, you can fix it with a mod, if that's not enough for you play something else or play a total conversion mod or something.

>>146505492
I always took my Ostros through the ERE, down the coast and into egypt to steal Alex. From there it's a bit of a turtle since the ERE is going to box your tiny army into the city until the sassanids wreck them, but you really don't lose much by sitting there for about 20 turns.

>>146505730
I never crossed the ocean as ostros, always the risk of a navy deciding it's convenient enough to wipe you out since you're near enough to do it. Plus showing up early at Alex doesn't make you any stronger because ERE isn't in a bunch of wars and will just push you out of anything you take.

>>146504840
people are apparently casual as fuck

>>146505492
>Where should I go?
egypt is bretty good

>>146505630
look you picked a roman faction, the whole point of roman factions in that time period is having a billion rebellions, if you dont like it, pick saxons, or franks, or celts, or whatever

>>146506000
If i fix it with a mod im free to build troops and econ and steamroll egypt once i have that im free to rekt the sassanid and win the game

>>146506195
>look you picked a roman faction, the whole point of roman factions in that time period is having a billion rebellions, if you dont like it, pick saxons, or franks, or celts, or whatever
>Picking not romans

>>146506128
ERE inevitably ends up at war with the sassanids within a few turns. It can be a rough start but it makes for an interesting campaign. I did it once and captured all of arabia / mesopotamia. Those elite pikemen you get really help against white huns when you end up fighting them.

>>146506303
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat yourself, it's part of the game, deal with it by either playing or fixing it or fuck off. I don't even know why I'm replying it's blatantly obvious you're braindead or baiting.

>>146504840
I understand the concept of sniping the enemy general with your free garrison cav, but how I actually carry it out when he's buried in 15 units of barbarian spears is incomprehensible to me.

>>146504578

Attila is good, it's more demanding than warhammer

>>146498790
fuck off esteban

>>146506359
It doesnt matter how many times you repat yourself its a shit feature that makes the campaign not fun and removing it makes the game too easy. I don't even know why I'm replying it's blatantly obvious you're braindead or baiting.

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>>146504840

Is there a mod that brings corruption cap back to 90%?

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>>146504840

I have problems with all campaigns because I'm really bad at Total War games, but I still enjoy them.

>>146504578
Attila's graphics and performance are worse. i5-3330 is a weakish CPU.

CA did a lot of engine optimization and even overhauled the engine from 32-bit to 64-bit. In short, this means Warhammer's performance is way better on the same hardware setup.

Attila is one of the best historical TW games but it's hard not to be spoiled by Warhammer.

>>146506303
>Picking not romans
Oh I played the first 300 hours as the WRE, did every single playthrough possible with them, including conversion to minor religions, burn everything settle in Britain memes and all that, but I knew what I was getting into, so I didn't complain about it

its not even that hard, all you need is 1-2 armies devoted purely to crashing rebels and you are free do just do whatever, hell as the WRE I'd always disband the stack and re-recruit it where needed to avoid marching the troops around, and because before patches roman troops were not only weak as shit, but also cost an incredible amount of money in upkeep

>>146506646

sleep tight, pupper

>>146506303
just shut the fuck up already you pissy little baby

>>146506929
whats a pupper

>>146506962
gtfo normalshitter

>>146507058

A chihuahua pupper

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>>146506646

>being bad at total war games

You literally just need to breathe to shit on a legendary campaign.

>>146507631
dumb pancake catposter

>>146507631
You what. A legendary campaign usually has very specific motions you gotta figure out and go through. It usually involves a bunch of borderline exploits.

Best Dwarf unit for crumbling Vampire Counts quickly? These units have so much sticking power, if they were any other faction I'd be winning all of these fights but because they stay around so long on 5/100 units etc. I'm struggling to clear everything up.

>>146507969
not really

Can you disable all that autosaving on a legendary campaign? Because that takes time

>>146508038

Just get Ironbreakers you dum-dum.

Also make sure to bring some thunderers to murder their Lord.

>>146508038
Units with blasting charges

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Thank christ manny started off by cycle charging right in front of my thunderers
That was a butthole clencher

>>146508038

Irondrake flanks for their infantry, quarrellers for the monsters you can keep away from your back line, slayers for the ones you can't.

Slayers are significantly more effective with a runesmith babysitting them.

>>146510784
>Its a dwarf player beats an army of zombies episode

>>146511158
what sucked was my army was already half dead and couldn't flee, I didn't want to fight it to begin with

>>146493330
It will be tricky to add the wood elves without dramatically changing the lore but I can't wait.

>>146496887
You do have plenty of anti-large troops but you don't have the morale to withstand that charge.

>>146496887
HOW CAN ANY GERMAN WHO IS POSTING/READING HERE STAND THIS GAME IN GERMAN.

FUCK. IHR VERTEIDIGT GEGEN VARGER. WAS FÜR EINE WAHRHAFT EPISCHE SCHLACHT.

THE CRINGE.

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HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED PARCHMENT IN SUSHI THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY MIND. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HATAKEYAMA AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

>>146513257
History is (not) dead

>always get Skaeliniggers or Varg raiding into the Wasteland, wherever
>get the mod that reduces their income
>never bothered by them again ever

Actually was kind of boring. Got rid of that mod.

Is there a mod that a) reduces player and AI movement by 10% in every territory, or b) disables Force March in enemy territory?

>>146513705
Just disable forced march entirely, never belonged in any total war game.

>>146513705
theres a mod that makes changing to forced march cost movement points, I haven't found any that describe what you are looking for

So as Chaos, how are you supposed to deal with superpowers?

The dwarves have united 90% of their potential empire by turn 120, and I literally can't go anywhere without five to seven full stacks converging on me.

There's no way for me to get around that. With the Empire, I could kite them with three stacks of Steam Tanks in battle, but there's no such option for Chaos.

>>146514123
there are none

>>146514123

>three stacks of steam tanks

wat

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>>146513257
I'm still killimg the Hatakeyama, took a break to kill some other fools.

>>146514239

If the Dwarves unite, you basically can't beat them without either striking fast at unguarded settlements, or literally conquering every piece of land that isn't dwarven to raise an army.

Their armor, insanely high leadership and number of decent units make them a pain to deal with.

But steam tanks annihilate them. They can't catch up to them with anything but gyrocopters, and you can snipe their lords and kite for days.

40 steam tanks can beat 80 units of dwarves, including artillery, gryobombers and torpedoes.

It get's even better if you have generals properly specc'd for leading steam tanks.

>>146514081
>>146514040
>>146513705

Sorry meant *enemy territory

Yeah I got the one that makes it cost more to enter the stance, then gives you twice as much or whatever movement next turn.

>>146514326
Aren't you the guy playing MoS with them? They're overpowered as all hell thanks to the giga ninja combat units they get.

Is it normal for VC campaigns to take really fucking long? I'm at turn 160 and still trying to rid the map of dwarves and haven't even gotten in contact with Empire yet.

>>146514620
Yeah but I only have one unit of ninja stationed in my capital and I have no resources and no one will trade with me. Got next to no money and don't have a big enough army to take on the Ikko-Ikki and their allies to get access to the coast.

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How do you use your building slots in Reikland early-game?
I'm retarded and cannot economy for shit on VH.

Can anyone explain why dogs are so lethal in this game?

I just had a pack of hounds get 102 kills. Not on crossbowmen, but on melee units. That's insane for a skirmish unit.

I saw another pack rout two units of Outriders.

>>146515167

Money.

Tailor's is priority, except in Altdorf, where you want a claypit until you find another source of clay (which won't happen for a while).

Once you've got a level two barracks in some other town in Reikland, delete the one in Altdorf to make room.

>>146514882
You were supposed to grab the one province guys around you. And why is the Oni unit sitting in the capital?

>>146513090
I have no idea what you just said, but I can't stand the game in my native language either, it's so cringey
Also the voices being in english and the text being in french triggered my autism so hard, went back to english after 5 minutes

>>146515437
I didn't want to rush bumrush and a few of those guys are actually friendly with me and I felt it would be dishonorabu to attack them after trading with them. I accidentally only set up trading agreements with provinces next to me

Going to start getting more aggressive, it seems like alliances are getting ripped apart so I'm going to use the chaos.

>>146514848

How many settlements do you have?

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>tfw vampires declare war and bretonnia suddenly sends 2 full stacks of knights and kick the shit out of them
thank you frogs

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>>146492553

I really hope it happens at some point.

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>tfw you are just waiting for your neighbors to invade each other so you can slip your dick into their cities

its always a mexican standoff early game

>>146515167

I usually go for all growth buildings at first, then when I have my towns upgrading to tier 3-4, then I switch to tailors and more advanced military buildings

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>remove the option to confederate since it makes early game too short
>realise I have to confederate to recruit Karl Franz

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>hyped as fuck for Warhammer before release
>already bored to death with it

>>146515645
Do you know how squalor works?

I don't.

>>146516048
>already
I've played 130 hours and I'm only now starting to feel the fatigue. I don't see how that constitues as "already".

>>146515167
I turn Heilmgart into my Barracks/Reiksfort town, Grunburg gets the Pasture and unique horse building, Eilhart gets a Tailor and a Tap House. All of them get a Garrison building. Every city of mine does.

Altdorf gets the Stables, Mage Conclave, Armoury, and Temple of Sigmar.

I ignore the claypits and instead either go straight for Marienburg, Wissenland, or Bastonne depending if I can't effectively sneak attack those cities.

I get my t2 Barracks up in Heilmgart asap.

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>>146515347
Many thanks for the intelligent reply. I asked this several generals ago and only got memed at. 'git gud bruh xD'

How do you spec for Empire unit recruitment VH/Legendary earlygame? I always delete the infantry-chain in Altdorf as soon as I take Helmgart and rush armory, but I haven't worked out where/how to efficiently get arty, greatswords or heavy-cav in the 30 turns you need to turtle to prevent the game-over Marienburg/savage ork/Karak Norn rapetrain

>>146515167

Heilmgart: Barracks, Tailor's, Garrison
Grunburg: Pastures, Tailor's, Garrison
Eilhart: Tailor's, Reiksfort/Sigmar temple, Garrison
Altdorf: Claypit, Dock, Armoury, Colleges of Magic, Gunnery

>>146516360
You don't have to rush greatswords or artillery. You can get heavy cav from a reiksfort which you should be throwing into helmgard anyway. Arty you only really need if you're ready to go into bretonnia and WAR OF TREES their asses.

>>146516360
Confederate Wissenland so you can get Nuln. Make it your arty province since the unique building gives them experience bonus.

Cav and infantry province can just be altdorf since you get a cav experience bonus there with one of the unique buildings until you take more provinces.

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>>146516360 goes for >>146515898 and >>146516246 too.

Vielen Dank, fellow Understanders.

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>>146516360
cheap infantry and crossbowmen beat everything from my experience, with crossbows doing all the killing. Give all your generals honest steel to make your line robust. I just put tailors in every city for money. Middenland is great from massing spearmen and crossbowmen since they have an exp building, late game i use them for demigryphs too. Reikland is for everything else. Maurienburg is thebreadbasket.

>>146516578
Nuln's exp bonus is faction wide.

>>146516546
>Not putting the Reiksfort in Helmgart so Bretonnian shitters can't get you

>>146516360

You don't need any of that stuff.

Spearmen and Crossbowmen will carry you against most anything you''re likely to meet early on.

Basic earlyarmy comp is:

Karl
9 units of spearmen
4 units of swordsmen
4 units of ranged (crossbowmen+one gunman)
1 unit of Reiksguard
1 unit of halbedier

You'll stomp all over bretts or marienburg, one of whom should be your target of opportunity earlygame.

>>146516797
Yeah but you might as well make it your artillery province since there won't be enough room in Altdorf for all the buildings.

>>146516853

I expand into Bretonnia so early on, that Bastonne is the place I need to defend.

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>banshees and big bosses keep assassinating my loyal dawi agents
>I can't kill them back and keep getting grudges

>>146515686

Pretty much everything from the Chaos Wastes to the Karaz-a-Karak, including Myrmidens (the Border Princes location). The border to Empire is Ostland/Ostermark and I have a running peace treaty with them still.

Dwarves are annoying and own the entire south past the Silver Road and it's gonna take forever to wipe them out. I have 5 armies and 2 of them are stationed up north to keep public order.

I don't mind this and I think it's rather interesting, but can't help but feel that I fucked up somewhere since when I played dwarf/empire/chaos I was on the verge of winning around turn 100.

How do I confederate guys? I'm military allies with wissenland, nordland, and talabecland, 50 turns in and nobody wants to join up.

>>146518223
They either need the underdog trait that lets you confederate them easily, or you need a massive positive opinion. It's possible early on if you give them enough gifts and attack their enemies regularly, but usually, you just wait until Chaos invades. When the Chaos invasion comes around turn 100, they all get a +40 "Shield of Civilization" opinion buff and you'll be drowning in allies and confederations.

>>146516006
Why would you start with Gelt? hes shit and Franz starts with fucking Reiksguard.

>>146518223
Have decent relations, like +20 and you must be adjacent to them. Then keep checking on them, they instant accept confederacies when they are in a losing war. I had a game where talabanland blobbed out and had two provinces then decided to invade kislev, his armies got smashed and I got him to pay me 3k to confederate.

>>146513090
What's the problem with it?
as a non-german speaker, that is
this for example sounds pretty cool to me even if it's not the same game or series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULXQkPUCd9s

>>146518223
>>146518430
>>146518686
Military strength is also important for confederation. If your power bar is mostly yellow you should have an easier time.

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So adjusting army size to 40 units is pretty great for Vampire Counts. Every battle creates a a site where I can raise anything up to wraiths and black knights, repeated battles let me get terrorgeists almost every turn. Plus, in the battles against chaos, even if I take 3, 4, 5 to 1 losses, they are mostly skeletons and zombies, as I now have the extra army space.
Go figure I would be excite for pyhrric victories.

>>146519316
Yeah, I don't use the mod but I pretty nearly get the same results. My armies always use the buddy system unless they're for garrisons. If Mannfred is there he's always the reinforcements. I let the zombies chew and get chewed on, and then my Graveguard and Crypt Horrors swoop in to clean up.

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>tfw you get a defensive siege against filthy urks

How do people get these heroic victories when they are outnumbered by 4 to 1?

Is it just having high tier units vs swarms of Eastern spearmen?

I tried in a siege a single Oathsworn unit was able to beat an entire banner of Eastern if spearmen if put in a choke point. Is it a similar thing going on?

>>146520974
It usually involves a heroic cavalry action causing a huge chain rout on a fully committed army. Since the AI uses a good mix of levies and cheating in most armies so it can support more stacks, you will be able to chain rout the guys you can't normally break.

>>146520974
When you kill half the enemy with missiles and artillery then cause a mass route with cav.

>>146520974
If you play really defensive, it's quite easy. Also what >>146521415 said. When you have them tired and pushing against your spearmen you can rush a cavalry charge in and get them. Also using cavalry to mop up routers to stack like 300 kills on your general alone.

Around what turn should I be looking at getting good artillery/cavalry or higher tier melee units like Greatswords or Ironbreakers as the Empire and the Dawi?

It seems no matter what I'll only get them rolling just a bit before Chaos shows up.

How long does each individual factions campaign generally last? Assuming you aren't going straight for objectives, taking some time to turtle up, do some quests, and wiping out all other factions.

Also why the fuck do Brettonian and Karak Norn shits hate Montforts guts and try to wipe it out ALL the time?

>>146521956
with emphasis on the tired part. a cav charge isn't so scary when you and all your friends can just lift your spears and chase them off, much more terrifying when everyone around you is so tired they can barely lift their shields

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Xkr8z3lEo
Which game to play as best nation lads?

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>when the ironbreaker blasting charges go off just right

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>>146524778
>driveby grenade launches with outriders

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>>146524778
>When you spirit leech the enemy lord with your flying vampire waifu.

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>>146524337
Empire or Napoopan

>>146524930
former /fit/izen reporting in. hello friend
What's Elliott doing these days? He's always been absolutely batshit, but if I remember right, he sorta ditched his youtube channel late 2014
I haven't lifted since March of last year and all my gains have gone to shit. fml
select all pies

>>146525284
Who is this man?

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>146525380
a good friend

>>146525380
>He doesn't know about Scooby
D Y E L
Y
E
L

>>146526949
>Look up scooby
>was tripfag on /fit/
>Now is apparently ridiculed
>Look up his channel
>By far one of sweetest voices ive ever heard
So what happened to this guy, does /fit/ not like him anymore?

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>>146525152
>when vargheists touchdown dead center in marauder cav, preventing them from fleeing

>>146527325
He just wanted young people to understand the joy of lifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7n3dBtZyCU

Is it possible to fight a siege as the attacker better than the AI in Warhammer? How? Seems when I fight the battle myself I take a large amount of casualties to a few units and then it takes multiple turns to replenish, the AI may or may not have more total casualties across all units so replenishing to full is faster.

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GOBLINS IS BEST

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>>146527398
>When you pull a crumbling Terrorgheist out of combat, only for it to fall apart anyway.

Greenskins on hard - wtf do you do

Either the top knotz gain a wa and get of control, or the dwarves or barrak var (or both) attack from the north when you're dealing with some shit. You can't really split your stacks north/south. Is there a minimum number of turns AI will keep peace treaty?

>>146528110
while I agree from a lore standpoint, I can only laugh when orcs attack me with an army that's 4/5 goblins
they're like zombies, but somehow worse

>>146528319
Top Knotz were trustworthy the few rounds I played on VH-Legendary. See if you can get an alliance rolling with them early on.

The problem with them though, is that they can't be confederated so you'll end up having to kill them eventually.

>>146529852
>turn 80 as dwarves
>top knotz and greenskins have a longstanding alliance that makes it a pain in the dick to push into the badlands without the LLs
fuck just fight each other you stupid green faggots

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What a fucking scrap. I don't think I can remember the last time I had so much fun playing a Total War game, and it's some shitty , unfinished, half-translated mod.

>>146529852
>The problem with them though, is that they can't be confederated so you'll end up having to kill them eventually.

I realized this pretty quickly

It's fucking bullshit. Why the hell not? I don't know Warhammer lore. Is there a good lore reason or something?

Also the power rankings are volatile as fuck. One turn the strength ranking bar in the diplomacy screen is literally 80% yellow, five turns later they have a stack, a waaagh on that stack, and another full stack, the bar is two-thirds red.

How is your understanding of strategy coming along, /twg/ friends?

What's the best way to level heroes? I have no idea what I'm doing. I have Mannfred right now.

>>146531326
have them join you battle also use them to fuck with the other factions, if you're lazy deploy them in a province and they will passively lvl up every couple of turns.

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>>146530942
They're savage orks, and you're... less-savage. Top-Knotz are practically feral, whereas the Greenskins player-faction are refined enough to build pillars of dung and gyrate into campfires.

>>146531889
I fucking hate that event, my shamans do it so fucking much, I've had it happen to me twice on the turn immediately following the one when I recruited them.

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All right niggers

The time has come

Should I get Rome II or Attila or both

which is worth it?

are they good

Now is the time to pounce if I'm going to do it

They both cost about $30 with all the DLC included

Bellum Crucis translation when?

>>146532227
Attila, no question.

>>146532227

get Rome 2 if you like the period, get Atilla if you want a better game

>>146533325
>>146533201
why does Atilla have such bad reviews on steam?

I'll trust you guys over some random fags on steam though im just curious

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>mfw all handgunner and cannon armies is perfectly viable and kicks ass

What over fun combination are you guys using.

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>>146533442
>yfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3-VkbRSKQ

>>146533413

assblasted autists that got upset about pre-launch DLC plans.

that accounts for about 75% of it

>>146532227
Attila hands down. Better gameplay, better performance, better graphics, and Age of Charlemagne is probably better than all R2 DLC combined. R2 has the better setting (obviously), but that does not come close to compensating for all its faults v. Attila.

Don't give CA money for R2, pirate it if you must.

>>146533413
Residual anger over R2, and when Attila came out a ton of poorfags were saying "this basically should have been DLC" because of how similar it looks and plays. There were also performance issues, but nowhere near the amount of bugs and glitches R2 had at launch.

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>>146527325
>Now is apparently ridiculed

What? He's basically worshiped on /fit/

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>>146533649
ok sweet

how much of that dlc is worth it?

It's about $20 in total
the most expensive is $5

Have any anons tried Molay's magic balance mod?

I've installed it and played a Gelt campaign and for once mr gelt is actually useless, magic-wise

>>146533774

vikings = shit
celts = alright if you like stealth gameplay
longbeards = very good and includes some cool quests
B&B = not needed unless you love gore or blood
The last autist = only if you like the period or are generally a cuck
Empires of Sand = sand niggers love and acclaim it, but don't get it unless you need a change from the european setting
Age of Charlie = 10/10, get this above all else
Slavs = speaks for itself

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what did they mean by this?

>>146533783
I love it, must use if your on ultra unit sizes honestly.

>>146533961
he can't walk straight

>>146533783

*useful

didn't mean useless, fuck

>>146533986

yeah i'm loving it so far, I only play on ultra, plus double unit sizes.

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>>146533940
>>146533671
>>146533649
>>146533325
>>146533201
thanks for the help niggers

>>146534092
>walk

>>146534092
>he
>walk

>>146533961
Elsa was a transgender one legged vampire before she got eat by a slow vargheist.

Why the FUCK does my dwarf lord + dwarf warrior unit lose decisively to ork warboss and goblin spears? This is on normal battle difficulty too, what the fuck is the point of foregoing cavalry and monsters if you lose head-on engagements with higher grade units?

>>146535242
Did you auto-resolve?
If yes kill yourself and never post here again.

>>146535242
greenskin lords and heroes have some nasty abilities, I think Goblin Big Boss has a 1-point AoE that gives like +34 melee attack, so if that goes off and one of your units is being flanked even with high leadership you're in trouble.

Goblin spears though, I don't know, you're probably fucking up somehow

>>146535372
Why would I post the battle difficulty if I auto resolved?

>>146535549
This is a turn 3 battle, no magic or anything. The warriors were performing as you'd expect, but even with a much worse unit supporting in the melee the warboss fucking solos my dwarf lord with 60% health remaining and the warriors rout

anyone have a recommended GEMfx or Reshade preset for Attila? The base game has this awful piss filter on it

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Deus Vult

>>146535852

If said warboss was Grimgor, it's because he's one of the best melee fighters in the game, only surpassed by Kholek. He wrecks every Dwarf lord 1v1.