Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

First for Monks are cute

remember to give your lolipan the daily tough love she(he) deserves

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>Swordsman have no damage they say

Just wait until I get my hands on this bad boy

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Bullies out!
Cute in!
Bullies out!
Cute in!

ded game and ded general

dead game

do your jobs, sea monkeys

build pastebin when?

nth for Archers

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>Cattly and NotCattly stop posting
>Thread dies
Nice game you have here

Day 4 of not logging in.
Feels free, man.

>>146263995
>implying we're not all busy playing

>>146264441
>log in
>try mission
>matchmaking put me with 10+ level difference
>str cleric without no heal dmg attribute
>one disconnect

>>146263864
>>146263895
Still Steam's top 30 most played.

>>146264647
thats nothing for a MMO

>>146264647
>top 10
>top 20
>top 30
>top 50
>top 100
>still got more players than x ded game
>still not ded

>>146264686
Sure thing bud, next TORTanic high-five my fellow /v/ermin.

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>>146263371
Monks are lewd.

>>146264647
I love this meme it's so underrated

>>146264647
>>146264742
http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=latestnews
top right corner shows how many players are currently online

>>146264440
Stop talking about yourself, austic shitter.

>>146263229
I really want to try this game. Tell me straight up, it's grindy, buggy, pay to win bullshit isn't it?

>>146265047
quest grindy, some stuff is fine and other stuff is fucked, not p2w

>>146265047
Yes to all.

>>146265012
>old as fuck game filled with 3rd worlders vs game that was released not 5 months and that closed access because it was getting too crowded

I guess this is why they call this place /r/treeofsavior.

>>146265047
It's pay to win in a sense of RMT because money sink in this game is ridiculous. Otherwise it isn't

>>146265047
>grindy
Yes
>buggy
Yes
>pay2win bullshit
RMT

Although if you have severe autism and like guys sucking each other's cocks through drama then you're more than welcome to play the game

>>146265185
Explain further, please.

>put up 2k silver potions or so on the marketplace
>you and four friends or so report every stack of potions that costs less than that
>????
>profit

whys no one doin this
I want the market to crash

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/645684/

Anyone know where this drops?

>>146265047
It's not pay to win; the developer is so incompetent they did the first free to play launch without providing any way to give them money. They also handed out a shitload of premium currency to free players because that was the easiest and quickest way to handle the token price cuts.

>>146265047
>grindy
No, it's a quest themepark.
>buggy
Yes, one of the buggiest games I've ever had the displeasure of playing since ragnarok, wakfu and maple story alpha.
>pay to win
In a way yes, you can buy fuckload of advantages by purchasing tokens and selling for silver. Silver is used to boost everything in the game (save from trading), so whales are going to have it easy. People will get triggered and curl into a shitposting ball but that's the truth, neo mmorpg mobile generation consider anything short from purchasing an 'iWin' button fair grounds due to eating up companies marketing, unfortunately.

>>146265260
Popolions and Orange Popolions

>>146265045 (You)
Don't you mean "yourselves"

>>146265260
>An old record exists of a man who once pulled out a Tini's horn with his own bare hands.
>Obtained from Brown Tinis.
>Obtained
>from
>Brown
>Tinis
>.

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>>146263895

>>146265371
>not bear hands

they had one fucking job

>>146265257
Because everyone is quitting.

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>tfw you don't join any guild because your leveling partner is a normie that types "xD" and ":P" a lot and you don't want to leave her alone

>>146265364
>F.Lux messes with my eyes a bit
>didn't realize that (You) was black text
>hovered over it and was really confused for a while
great

>>146265257
>You and four friends
But there are only me and one other guy still playing the game now.

>>146265139
iirc back in its golden age it averaged at 120k or so players

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>>146265492
>joined a guild with my leveling partner
>she uses xD ironically, probably a habit she picked up from me making fun of kids on other games
>every time she uses it in guild chat I get worried everyone will think she's using it earnestly
It's shit either way, friend.

>>146265664
>>146265492
Who cares what a bunch of 4cuck losers that get triggered by emoticons think

>>146265216
- You'll need at least 40M to fully upgrade one skill (+100% attribute) Most people settle for 50-60% though.
- You need to pay to get more stuffs from "boss cube" and it gets ridiculous real fast as you go higher level. And you usually get garbage shit too. Which means you should rather buy stuffs than hunting for them yourselves.
- You have to pay "tax" to sell things (30% for F2P, 10% for token) plus listing cost
- Enchanting gears can cost ridiculous amount of money in long run. Keep changing gears make much more sense financial wise unless you got really, really good gear.
- While isn't actually an issue, some quests needed you to pay money. If you're totally broke you're fucked.
- You needed to pay to use some skills too, and while this isn't an issue at first sight, it adds up. Because...
- Some skills needed you to pay for expensive material to use, and most of the time they aren't worth it.
- Monsters and quests in earlier levels give way too low money for cost they have to pay. Some people will be put off by this and stop playing before it gets better.

So yeah, real money trading is valid choice for some people since there's no way casual players (most people) going to put up with this kind of money sink if they don't have enough passion for this game.

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>>146265664
>Boatgirls picture
>Female leveling friend
>In a guild

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I like the one on the left

Someone save us from gay avatarfags

NULL PLEASE

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>>146266186
Mia!

>>146265535
Your setting must be really low because it looks fine at around 2700k.

>>146266186
Null is a gay avatarfag himself.

>>146265981
>You'll need at least 40M to fully upgrade one skill (+100% attribute)
R1 skills cost 12m to cap out, R7 skills cost 86m. Most builds only really have 1-2 skills that are even really worth attributing, it's not that bad.

>You need to pay to get more stuffs from "boss cube" and it gets ridiculous real fast as you go higher level.
Rerolling those is a complete and utter waste for the most part. Aside from the Demon Lord drops there is no gear in this game that's hard to obtain anyways, it's very reasonable if you play longer than a week.

>While isn't actually an issue, some quests needed you to pay money. If you're totally broke you're fucked.
That's a completely and utterly retarded point to bring up. There is only like 3 quests in the entire game that require you to spend some silver and it's pocket change to where killing a couple monsters easily gets you enough even if you happen to somehow have absolutely no silver on you at all.

>Some skills needed you to pay for expensive material to use, and most of the time they aren't worth it.
Completely and utterly untrue. The reagents for skills in this game are all really cheap. Fletcher probably has it the worst out of anyone and they still make far more money than they spend on arrows even just killing random low level mobs.

>Monsters and quests in earlier levels give way too low money for cost they have to pay. Some people will be put off by this and stop playing before it gets better.
Yes, because you clearly need the absolutely best weapons for your level range and capped attributes as you level. The silver you get while leveling more than tides you over and gets you anything you need.

Of course it's true that you can RMT like crazy and getting ridiculous amounts of silver that way puts you far ahead, but there is barely any game where that isn't the case. Getting silver yourself isn't very hard either, you can quite easily make 400-500k per hour grinding later in the game.

Is Futureproof a bee farming guild?

>>146266732
ERP guild

>>146266732
That is correct. We have PvBee spread sheets.

>>146266732
Chicken farming.
Cluck cuck cuck

>>146266543
>you can quite easily make 400-500k per hour grinding later in the game
Can you? where?

>>146266958
magical 'its not p2w' realm of 'its not p2w and the game isn't dead'.

>>146266958
Demon Prison, Vedas Plateu, Bee Farm if it wasn't camped to shit, any area with good mob density, really. Those are just the more popular spots. Obviously if you are a full support cleric or some random meme build your kill speed and thus silver/hr is going to suck, but most builds can do pretty well on their own.
Couple weeks ago when I didn't have work and could play during the off-hours of the server I was making around 600k/h on my warlock just running through demon prison one shotting entire rooms with invocation

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Today, Clover did its first attempt on the Mage Tower guild mission, rumored to give the Hamster pet.
As usual, we didn't know how to properly start it, as a result only 2 of us got in.

It's a boss rush, with lv285 bosses having 800-900k HP each.
We were able to tank and wear them down with Templeshooter, and the def-ignoring Rush Dog.
We grew careless and wiped at the 4th room (forgot to screenshot, Magburk and Salamander), booting us out of the mission.

We'll try again tomorrow, with a bigger party and better knowledge.

>>146266732
>>146266758
buzz buzz

>>146266256
uhmm, nah

>>146267458
Does TS have a ridiculous amount of defense or something?

is lvl 1 stone skin viable for a 1con 2spr priest?

>>146267783
Stone skin's scale is great, why are you just putting 1 point on that if you are going for SPR priest?

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>>146267624
My card says 747 def, maybe pdef is that good or there's something special about summons.
The Templeshooter DOES die eventually, but even with 2 bosses at the same time it usually lasts long enough to have ~10s left on the cooldown.

>>146267624
Pointing also has a chance to inflict Fear, which cuts damage by 25%.

>>146267458
>>146268013
Fear cuts damage by 25%?
How much was rushdog doing and what level was it?

>>146267887
oh fuck. that is one strong TS.
280 sorc sounds kinda nice...

>>146267883
lack of skill points maybe? I'm not sure since I'm a newfag.

Aspersion 15/15
Monstrance 1/15
Blessing 3/15
Res 5/15
Sac 1/10
Rev 9/10
M.Heal 10/10
Exo 0/0
Stone Skin 1/5

the only option I have is to limit revive's level to 5 so I can max stone skin.

>>146268350
Why Aspersion 15?

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>>146267458
It's more than boss rush
The harderst part comes from the timed and protect device objects after these bosses
When we tried it we failed to protect a device from hordes of lv 285 Black Drakes and at same time we were asked to destroy severeal big devices in a time limit
Barriers are a must or the Black Drakes and Slimes will just kill the devices with their skilla

>>146268642
Not him but % defense will never fall off.

>>146268350
>>146268698
You guys are fucking stupid

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>>146268660
I wanna smell Capy's butthole

>>146268350

I would cut ress/revive for stone skin. Reviving people is nice, but letting they die is wrong, lol. You are already going a endgame priest build (with maxed Aspersion expecting the worst to happen).

>>146268698
>not just purchasing pardoner buffs who have 17 aspersion

>>146268642
as he >>146268698 said

and I'm going straight to chaplain for my r5 which I think would synergize very well with aspergillum.

so rev 5/10 | ss 5/5 then?

>>146268292
Maybe 3-5k? Not sure about level but it still helps considering he'd do 1 damage otherwise.

>>146268660
Thanks for the info!
I did bring Barrier scrolls just in case, but I'm not sure if having them on me is enough.
Maybe we'll split the party so I can go destroy the devices while the rest spam Barrier scrolls.

>>146268913
i'm going cleric > priest 3 > chaplain > cleric 2 > undecided

is my skillbuild >>146268350
any good if I limit my res to 5 and max my stone skin instead? 1con 2spr btw just in case.

>>146268962
Chaplain falls off really hard late game. I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone

>>146268974
Just remember you will have to jump between several floors with devices both to protect and destroy before running out of time
Drakes and Slimes have around 100k hp but they are a lot with flaming attacks and devices to protect have very low hp, drakes takes less than 30 seconds to destroy it
After Magburk and Salamander there is another boss room with a Scepter Monarch and Shadowgaler

>>146268892
I'm not saying it's a good idea to do that, but that's obviously the reason.

>>146269223
How many devices are there to protect and to destroy?
Do the devices that need to be destroyed have a level (aka 1 damage from lowbies)?

>>146269159
Just so you know Priest3 without Krivis is shit.

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>>146267549

>>146269556
I dunno the exact number since we failed maybe halfway, did only one try blindly, and we didn't knew there was the device to protect but there are multiple devices to destroy from the second gauntlet floor and they have level if i noticed it right, still 500hp and can be killed fast, the hard part is moving fast and preventing lv 285 drakes/slimes to ruin your day.

>>146269992
Alright, thanks a lot for the info!
It's stuff like this that make me excited to play, it actually requires planning and coordination, not to mention the prospect of a nice reward.

>>146269992
They are like the blocks in Saalus Canyon Area mission or Siaulus mission first room before golem i suppose.
If they have 500hp and there are multiple of them with time limit going with 3-5 people would be hard.

>>146270631

500 hp falls fast with icewall and pressure, no?

That's 28 hits/second if you know what you're doing.

If that guy looking to join Comfy is still around, I just woke up and having dinner at the moment. Will be online within an hour or two.

is there anyway to skip the orsha owl questline? I'm currently lv 62 on my alt and it bores the shit out of me

>>146270953
you can also add a swordie with cafrisun+sacrament+trident or galin trident assuming the thing to be destroyed is a large size object, a hoplite could do a nice amount of hits, about 5 - 6 hp per AA, and a lot more with stabbing

>>146271184
Use cards and run?

Found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9QhP2Cm60
We failed in the last room like retards
Cawffee, later we try again

>>146269649

No, it's not.

He's going chappurain.

Play the game

>>146271184
Just don't do them, honestly just one side of quests is plenty after you get to the 50 dungeon. I usually skip Orsha completely after Novaha.

>>146271459
Hamster drops in this video too :^)

>>146271403
this part is a bit foggy to me, how long did it take to reach 62-90 and rank 3 again? again?

>>146265352
roll support classes, they don't cost anything in both gear and attributes

>>146271184
You don't even really need to do that side of the map. Most of it annoys me.

>>146263229
is that a bullied and amputated lolipan? hot

I really want to try out this game, when the fuck are they going to lift the new player restriction? Also, why do ToS devs seem to be so incompetent?

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Can someone clarify Rune of Destruction for me?

Just looking at it just feels like a worse meteor, but it has these reflect damage memes. I wanna know if each target reflects its damage to each other target in the area, for example:
10 targets
Each gets hit once and reflects 100% damage to all 9 other targets, effectively making everyone get hit 10 times?

Also, the damage is buffed on KTOS, right? Is this the sole purpose people go RC instead of Warlock on ET and therefore no one should go RC for PVE in ITOS?

>>146271184
You can completely skip the Orsha side and reach Fedimian.
You'll be underleveled for a lot of areas, but once you reach 90 for the dungeon and 100 for the missions things will readjust.

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You wardec a guild considerably smaller than yours for one reason or the other. You meet up with their templar 30 minutes before the war takes effect and he says "Our men don't have to die. Only one of us." and challenges you to a 1 on 1 duel winner takes all.

Do you accept?

Any Sadhu bros here? No matter how much other people say that it's useless, I can't help but love the skill set and the theme of the class.

The Spirit(when in out of body) attack scales with str or int? Does it trigger elemental effects(ie Arde Dagger) or can it use spells(Monk ones,or any kind of offensive spell)?

My path idea was something like Cleric2 > Krivis or Diev > Sadhu 3 > Plague or Kabbalist

Plague would be a good choice for me if I could trigger incineration with debuffs like Deprotected Zone and Vashita Siddhi(I have no idea how incineration works, so sorry if I'm talking bullshit here)
I don't know how Kabbalist would work with that, but someone recommended it in game.

Thanks for anyone that helps.

>>146271875
>winner takes all
Takes all what?
There's nothing to win in a GvG.

>>146271776
Some people go RC over Warlock for ET because they have a CryoChrono in their group, Rune of Destruction is okay too but it doesn't measure up to what Warlock offers you. For just AoE DPS in general Invocation is ridiculously powerful in ET since things attack you in wave, and Pixel of Agony combined with Ice Tree are obviously as good as always, and Dark Theurge is crazy damage as usual

>>146271916
All the woman on the guild.

>>146271962

I don't get it.

People use Isa for the full con cryochrono do what? 12k ice pikes and 60k snow rollings? No one to proc ice wall shards too in the common setup.

>>146272191
If you are talking about the group that cleared ET20 they use Icewall+Ice Rune to burn down bosses, it's still crazy damage even if you only auto them with a staff/offhand during your downtime and their SR can use it for Retreat Shot.

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>>146271875
HI LAD!

>>146271875
Sure I play Hunter.

>>146272095
>Woman
>Internet

The swiftstep critical rate increases my critical chance by 25% not flat 25 r-right?

If I want to go Sap2>Wugu2>Can, how many dex should I put into? currently I put 2 str 1 dex, and plan on stopping dex at 100

>>146272437
It's +25% of your crit rate in the chara sheet. A2 Sap2 Wugu2 Cannon usually go big on STR and get their Crit Rate from gear since Wugong is a big part of your damage and obviously has no DEX/Crit scaling whatsoever

2x Glass Bracelet +5 = 109 mdef
Max Peta +5 = +90 mdef (not switching this baby for that 220 white one).
Sage Wall +99 mdef.
Royal mage Pants: 20 mdef
Librarian armor: 20 mdef.

That's 447 mdef.

Is this enough to survive pesky magic mobs at 230+ as a 25k hp soft tank?

>>146272512
So I should just stop leveling dex at all?

>>146271736
I don't really get this. I downloaded this game just a few days ago and I never had any problem with this new player restriction thing.

>>146272520
just get elkosh or whatever its called

>>146271962
I understand, thanks.
So RC for pugging is unreliable and warlock can stand better on its feet.

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>>146272586

>>146272629

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/sets/21/

that set is really beautiful but it's like 2 weeks or more of rng anal devastation to get...

This set is so beautiful that it also gives you evasion, perfect for what I have in mind but still...

>>146272710
im really confused now, so is it str or dex?

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>>146271908
>The Spirit(when in out of body) attack scales with str or int
INT
>Does it trigger elemental effects(ie Arde Dagger)
Yes
>can it use spells(Monk ones,or any kind of offensive spell)
Yes you can, but the main body uses non-sadhu skills
>Vashita Siddhi
Is a channeling skill, and your spirit body uses the skill.

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>>146272710
>not accounting mobs crit res
shiggy.
Also, are you taking into account how much crit rate you lose just by leveling up?

>>146272838

SO CUTE.

Also, INT or MATK?

>>146272586
Dunno, how much DEX you want kinda depends on what gear you think you can get. Can't really go wrong with either to be honest and it's not going to make a tremendous difference.

>>146272710
Completely irrelevant to the discussion and doesn't apply to that build. That's for 100% crit rate on Fletcher with party support.

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Ability to craft while logged out when?

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leaked conversation of lolip and atom after last GVG

>tfw I fell for the Cata3goon meme
Cata1, should I consider suicide?

>>146272938
nice misinfo

>>146272710
That's just cannon shot though, you still get loads of damage from your poisons. I think a bit heavier on the strength side, maybe ~2:1, would probably be the best overall but it also depends on how many mobs you are fighting and all that. Your cannon skills are all limited by AoE Attack Ratio while your poison is True AoE if you spread it with Broom Trap and is just going to hit everything no matter how many mobs there are.

does anyone know if the amount of linked enemies by full draw increases with skill level or is the limit always 2?

>>146273647
Always 2

>>146273659
then i guess theres no point in leveling it further, thanks

>>146272934
Matk.
If you're going full Sadhu3, INT.

>>146273730
Well, it still increases the duration and unless you go Archer3 you dont have anything better to spend the points on

>grynas is nothing but silver all day
fuck this gay earth, I should've bought roxona instead of listening to this rng meme

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>>146274306
Doing this for months and I still need pants, I have 6 tops, 2 boots and 4 gloves.

>>146274750
welcome to rng

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>>146274306
tfw suffering similarly with the Ibre set.
>Need Shoes and Chest
>Nothing but silver, gloves, and pants for the past month

>wake up
>full of motivation and plans to level my character, do quests and farm shit
>wait, I have to do my petamion rush
>12 harpeias, no petamion
>do 10% of the things I wanted to do

Every single day.

>>146275414
Are you me?

>>146275414
>wake up
>this will be a productive day! I'll do the laundry, clean my apartment, go look for a job, cook something
>wake up at 12:00pm start playing ToS
>Create another alt that I will lvl up to 60ish and then delete it again.
>End up doing nothing but order pizza for lunch/dinner

Three weeks like this. Life is suffering

Which one is better for hunter build?

Archer3-Hunter2-Scout1-Cannoneer1
or
Acher1-Ranger1-Hunter2-Scout1-Rogue1-Cannoneer1

I want some fun

>>146275606
>hunter build
>no hunter 3
>no falconer
That's not a hunter build.

>>146275606
hunter3 and falconer if you want some fun

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>>146263371
>>146264769
always bully monks

>>146275903
Modified Luck booster addon?

>another maintenance
>imc didn't fixed the character selection soft re-login buttom
>market tab closing for no reason
>you need to circle tabs at the market for your search to work

lol

What should I save more on, Maga Spear or Petamion?

If someone opens the portal to the treasure room for the noble hat, can I also use that portal?

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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/official-tree-of-savior-screenshot-thread/301935/15

>>146276187
Max Petamion :^)

>>146275414
I got mine yesterday. Don't give up.

>>146275606
Second one.

>>146275860
>>146275892
kys retards

>>146276187

Weapon and Skill Atributes. Everything else will not make any difference, only when your attributes are like lv 60 you can start thinking of petamion, gladiator, etc.

% > Stats.

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>>146275892
>Any archer
>Fun

>>146276140

You can modify it easily. Mine is set to Lewd Booster.

Daily reminder that if you find something fun, play with it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9QhP2Cm60

Do not fall for the meta meme!

>Become Bokor
>Be useless shit
>But maximun ultimate cute

Worth it, will get 3 circles of pure cuteness.

>>146276872

You only need 2 circles of bokor to fuck the sit up of everything as a int effigy nuker cleric.

"Cuteness" is how shitters rationalise their shittyness.

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Remember kids never do speed potions with haste

>>146276872
>become bokor
>don't fall for zombies
>get meme mace
>become absolute terror in pvp

Convince me to switch to Dragoon and not Shinobi. My friend keeps telling me it's shit. I went Sword 1 > Pelt 1 > Hop 2 > Cor 2

>>146276662
That looks pretty good actually

>>146277316
corsair 3

>>146277316

Ninja pirate

>>146277316
Hop3

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>>146277294
>in pvp
>no pvp arena
>all guilds are neutral

>>146277316
Real Swordsman use swords, not spears. Spears are for bitches.

>>146277316
You already missed Sword 3, don't go ninja

>>146277041
It's only fitting for a master of time to have almost teleportation like speed.

>>146277294
you mean
be absolute useless around a single pd
and gear doesn't carryover in actual pvp

>>146275606
>>146276498
>asks for a specific class build
>doesn't go 3 circles in it
kysmm

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>>146275606
>archer 3 in a hunter build

>>146277721
Arena mode is the minigame, actual pvp is the guild battles.

>>146277294
>have hexing resisted all the time
Good class.

>>146275606
>>146277905
better yet
>archer 3
>no circling to take advantage of circling multi15

>>146277009
>>146277294

I'll get a third because I like Islam zombies.
Then Druid and not sure if Druid again or Meme doctor

>>146277316
Its absolute shit, not to mention the flower suffering

Half your skills are bugged and you get instagibbed by everything

>>146277721
>arena meme
You realize the reason you never see anyone other than you pushing this is because literally nobody else cares?

GVG and Guild Battles is what people care about. Not the catagoons-and-warlocks-queue.

How are canoneers on WB and parties?

>>146278092
Catagoon can't do shit in Battle League though. There isn't a single Dragoon in the rankings.
It's mostly GvG that they are good at because they have lots of space to hit and run.

>>146278235
No significant change. You take cannoneer to add cannon blast to whatever circles you already had. It doesn't define your character.

>>146278235
remember that guy of the tuuba who only talked shit ?

it's the same shit

>>146278005
Hey, circling multishot15 is a legit combo or just bug memes?
I don't wanna go A3 and then realise i should've gone something else because IMC fixed this

>>146278067
If that's speaking from a personal experience, I'll hear you. So, should I switch to Dragoon? Even if I went Cor2? Since most of the people go with Doppelgoon.

>>146275860
>>146275892
>>146276498
>>146277814

I want some fun but still being somewhat useful later on.
Initially i planned to go with this build
Archer3-Hunter3-Falcon1

But it feels like just another meme build.

>>146278313
>"There isn't a single Dragoon in the rankings."
>well that doesn't sound right
>open ktos
>positions 1, 6, 9, 10, 12 and 16 are all dragoons
Wow amazing!

>>146278313
t. Misinfo Agent in action

>>146278320
i see so its only icing then?

>>146278334
what?

>>146278552
>all the popular meme classes are nerfed into the ground
>o cd skyliner
>1.3 strength
>constant swordie buffs
did you forget our versions are different cause of cultural reasons and our swordies aren't even 1/10 of theirs? a ktos swordsmen can kill 3 itos swordsmen with equal gear/attributes from skills alone.

>mission
>wow finally someone who take pardoner for battle purposes
>hey man, do you have discerning evil
>no answer
>party has a shitton of bleeding and other debuffs like spear lunge and attaque coquille
>not a single discerning evil was used that day
>the guy is also a bokor

why

>>146278815
>threw out misinfo at random
>doesn't play the game and didn't realize how completely impossible said misinfo was
>tries to reason it out when the last thing he posted was simply flat wrong
Oh, this is good.

>>146278313
play the game
l
a
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t
h
e

g
a
m
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Wiz C3 Pyro C2 Thaum C2

NEW META

>>146278998
Sounds like my build, but i actually use discerning evil and wet myself at the sight of a wugushi or any % modifiers per damage types.

I only wish effigy wasn't so bad even with lethargy.

>>146279004
not that person you said and i don't particularly believe there's that many cata in high ranks either. for the last 5 months of them showing the ranks swordsmen were mia until every other class was nerfed and they got constant buffs. it was doppel/cata that was 1# before swordsmen even got any high rankings. do you think everybody suddenly forgot all the top 100 ranking from the last 5 months?

>>146278432
It's not a hidden interaction, it's just how circling and multishot work individually. Multishot by itself is an aoe, just that archer has default aoe attack ratio of 0. With aoe attack ratio gear you will hit multiple mobs with multishot even without circling. Circling on the other hand reduces all mob aoe def ratio.

It's not like some hidden interaction nonsense like barrage feint. Both skills work exactly the way they're meant to.

>>146278432
what? You realize how aoe defense ratio works, right? It's not a bug. you can hit an unlimited number of 0 aoe def mobs, as long as theyre in range of the attack

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Finally got Thauma2! Prepare your ass for double fisting.

Does ITOS still have that stupid shit where monster respawn times don't actually matter because the map only checks to respawn mobs every so many minutes or was that fixed when they said they increased spawn rates?

>>146278541
Archer 2 hunter 3 falcon cannon or musket. As long as you finish off rank 7 with either cannon or musket, you'll always be relevant.

>>146279267

Ok, I did my post while we were at the torch. Guy was half afk but he started to use his skills at the final bosses.

We had a wugu too, shit WAS BEAUTIFUL.

I'm planing to roll 1 build like this. Guy was cleric 2 diev 1 bokor 2, but I'm willing to pick krivis c1 over diev c1 and PD for last spot, I know the sp skill is nice for effigy but zaibas is the shit and daino scrolls are nice to sell.

>>146279491
yes

>>146279429
>yaoi hands

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>>146279291
How do we attract people who have played the game and read the general back to it? im really sad seeing posts like this.

>>146279632
>swordsmen are so strong every patch buffs them and now they're even getting 1.3 damage
>every other strong class is nerfed because swordsmen is so strong
go fuck yourself retard.

Reminder to give comfy shitter more attention next time so they don't have to post on reddit again

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4p5rgp/revolutionary_luck_booster_addon/

>>146279429
>con
>pyrolinker
>boy

R E R O L L

>>146279829
lmao (You)

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Clerics are the most weird class in the game. I would love to create a Mystic, nature, spirit centered cleric.
I have something with Sadhu and Druid but I won't be relevant in parties and my DPS will be terrible ;_; any help with this idea?

Lama fucking when

>>146280065
your swordsboi is still trash in itos and will be forever cause don't expect them to ever equalize the versions ;^)

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Pre Helga chan dancing

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>tfw everyone went with the schoolgirl outfit so everybody looks alike
This was a mistake. A 120-some odd TP mistake.
>>146275903
>>146264769
This is criminal! Delete this!

>>146280162
what the fuck is this projecting rofl when did I ever even suggest i play swordshitter? i dont do minigame my cuck, and im archer so even if i did i would destroy rofl

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>>146280207
I want your pack of schoolgirl monks to bully me!

>>146280362
>pack
Not likely. Not even monks tolerate other monks. Monks are destined to a life of solitude, and only venture into town to trade sexual favors for supplies.

>>146280105
Something like Cleric2-Diev-Sadhu2-Druid2 will work. Cleric2 for heal, Diev for cd statue.

>>146279898
>con
I like it
>pyrolinker
what else am I gonna solo with?

Are there any archer classes I can just grab 1 circle in before Rank 6? Or should I just grab Archer 2

Currently Archer1, Quarrel Shooter 3. Planning on making this toon an SR.

>>146280509
Scout and Falconer are the one point wonders in Archer, but your goal is SR so it won't matter, you'll reroll in the end anyway.

>>146280509
Why would you ever NOT grab A2 when able?

>>146280449
Guess I'll have to gather a group of schoolgirl monks to bully me.

>>146280207
Chicken outfit brings 0 regrets

>>146280634
Because you're too busy getting scout and falconer instead.

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>>146280449

>thread is at its least cancerous when bullying monks
It's not looking good for /tosg/

>>146280798
>Scout
>Falconer
>going SR
You're retarded.
A2 is the better choice even if only for the swift step attribute anyway. Even if you're full STR, it's godly because of gear.

>>146280634
I made this toon half asleep so I thought SR was Rank 5. Really wanted to max out Caltrop, Rapid, and Stone.

So I guess A2 is my best choice until then huh?

The only thing keeping me going is the belief I have finally found the overpowered GvG build, and cute cows in school girl uniforms. Post cows.

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>>146281198
Easily the most pure headgear available.

Are dispellers disabled in Arena?

>>146281512
yes

>>146281424
cow
pure
ever

no

>>146280474
You could've been Wiz3Thau2 FUTUREPROOF™ but ya blew it.

>>146281641
according to poo in loo and islam it is

>>146281585
You gave me hope, anon.
Now only prophecy and bloodletting would get in my CC combo.

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>>146279369

>>146281512
And GvG.

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Bokor 2 variant:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413441ae.1a2a33415561.13233445.1a2a5575.15213584.112535415261

Krivis 2 variant:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413341ae.1a2a33415561.1723354a55.15253144.15213584.122535415161

So, what about this costume collector int cleric build?

>>146281967
First one

So I'm thinking about making a pyro. Did I mess up already?

>>146282209
maybe

>>146281967
Bokor 2 is good, but I would suggest moving points away from Hexing into other things.

Like this: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413441ae.1a2a33415561.13233445.152a3143556175.15213584.112535415261

Hexing doesn't need a lot of points, and Tet Mamak La is actually decent damage on bosses.

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>>146279369

>>146282209
Does pyro have frost cloud?

>>146281693
maybe if I had friends to play with but no way am I going through that alone

>>146282209
wiz3pyro2
pyro2link
pyro2link2
pyro2link1sorc1alch2
pyro3link1

At what maps do Vibora start giving out Lvl. 9 cards? I want to start doing my monster logs.

>>146281967
>>146282296
Actually, I also noticed you maxed out Mackangal.
You only need 1 point in that skill. Move 4 of those over into Zombify.

>>146282371
Magic Missile deletes mobs though and you even got thaum buffs at your disposal
There's also pardoner buffs that you should have all the time when soloing

>>146281893
kada plz

>>146282408
187 map iirc.

>>146282308

Pyro 2 ele 3 works, less 50% damage on meme cloud, but you have fireball, ground and pillar and a cute costume.

>>146282296

Hm, so, less hexing in favor of some zombies... This is tempting. Even with almost pure int build this works?

Also, I need someone (any cleric) to answer me one thing that is essential to this build.

Cure scrolls from pardoner. They share the same cooldown of the main Cure skills or I can lay double cures? If positive, please, post a screenshot here of 2 cures side by side.

You can buy scrolls at the market, they go by the name of skill scrolls. My own cleric is lv 25 so I can't buy.

I really hope it works, makes pardoner even more interesting as a class choice.

>>146280183
So it's not aggressive unless attacked first?
Weird.

>>146282772
>less 50% damage on meme cloud
I think you mean less 50% damage on everything you do and take 50% longer to cast shit that can get interrupted because you don't have surespell.

>>146282502
That may be true but pyro gives me 3 skills that delete mobs just as fast.
I played wiz3 in closed beta and wanted to kill myself.

Everyone in this game are boys! All the girl characters in-game are crossdressers!

>>146282308
Frost Cloud is severely overrated. People are braindead retards and just follow whatever build feels the most memetic at the time.

>>146282820
That's how most if not all world bosses are.

>>146282772
>wiz on damage duty without qc
shit nigger what are you doing

>>146282910
I can confirm this, I'm a boy in real life and play girl characters.

>>146282909
>wiz3 beta
Never seen the new wiz3 magic missile? You don't need sleep for it to bounce now.

>>146282872
not that guy but
>take 50% longer to cast shit that can get interrupted because you don't have surespell.
does not matter for pyro or wl.
does it for ele?

>50% less damage
anons pls

>>146279429
Are you on Klai?

>>146282772
>Hm, so, less hexing in favor of some zombies... This is tempting. Even with almost pure int build this works?
Yes. Zombies only gain 5 HP per point in SPR, so your SPR doesn't really matter much.

Also if you missed this post >>146282435 check it out.
Mackangal is mainly an "Oh shit" button where you throw up when someones about to die and then they sit inside your Saftey Zone, or any other invincibility, when it's about to end to take no damage.

1 point is enough because the extra duration will just increase the damage take at the end of it and it's only an extra 4 seconds.

>>146282910
No my girl in game canonically has a tight pink pussy

>>146283063

I bet your nipples are brown

>>146280183
Helga with only 3 people? You Europoors are mad!

>>146283063
Tight teen cunny

>>146282910
Thats what makes it so good

>>146263229

What a decent pvp build for wiz that isn't kino?

>>146282938
Frost cloud is only op not because of the damage, but rather it's the only "true aoe" that is the size of your average mob pull. all the other aoes are so shit and poorly designed whether its aoe size, aoe ratio or hit limit

it's not that elememe is good, it's everything else is poorly fucking designed

>>146283001
Let's list shit that can get interrupted for an Elememe when you're taking damage like when you have DoT like bleeding. This hurts more when you play on keyboard or controller targeting besides Frost Cloud.

Electrocute
Hail
Stone Curse
Rain
Energy Bolt
Sleep
Lethargy
Freezing Sphere

>>146283246

The WEW build.

>>146283262
But anon, frost cloud is not a true aoe anymore.
It got nerfed to 10 aoe attack ratio + skill level.

>>146282910
What if I'm a crossdresser irl too?

>>146283406
What's the target limit for Flame Ground?

>>146282994
I know the changes.
3 skills>1 skill
Im going for comfort over tryhard.

>>146282910
Girl in game and crossdresser in real life.
I just want to be a little girl.

>>146283406
But that's in kTOS right?

>>146283354
I dont have a Elem (now, rolling it soon) but another Wiz.

>Energy Bolt
>Sleep
>Lethargy
are fine without Surespell


are
>Electrocute
>Hail
>Stone Curse
>Rain
>Freezing Sphere
'good' and used 'often' ?

not shitposting.. i just want to know more about Elem

Guise I need help with my stat distribution, I'm Bokor3 Druid2
Do I get 50/70/100/All CON?

>>146283246
Kino

>Finally get my AFK necro farm going
>Make too much money to want to not AFK farm all day
They weren't kidding when they said bee ERP was the end game

>>146283546
Hail15 is pretty decent filler for when frost cloud is on cd. Electrocute is alright. The rest are 1 pointers and not that useful.

>>146283030
Fedimian

>>146283569
pity reply

>playing ToS
>hit level 500
>think the game is finally over
>suddenly the world map expands into a massive open world
>no quests, only way to level is grinding
>the real game begins here
>the first 500 levels were just a tutorial ;^)

>>146283474
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/tree-of-savior-initial-patch-notes/154512

>Elementalist
>Frost Cloud
>AoE attack ratio for Frost Cloud changed to be base 10 + skill lv

>>146283454
none.
but its smaller, slower, weaker

>>146283546
I am specifically talking about being an elememe with bleeding status (example of DoT that interrupts you from casting shit)
You will have difficulty in targeting stuff at long range when you are not playing on mouse with a DoT status.

>>146283642
Spoken like a true cookie cutter. The only filler skill there is Freezing Sphere which you get at lvl 1 only.

I'm making a Hats Party build (Scout3)
Do I max out Scan?

>>146283048

So, something like this:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413441ae.1a2a35415361.13233445.152a3147516175.15213584.112535415261

I also noticed that my low level cleric has safety zone 5, is okay to roll with just divine might lv 3?

I'm just not sure if hexing 5 is enough, you gian aoe ratio with more points into it. Yes, I know the true aoe is so small that I'll hardly land it on more than 3 monsters without pandemic, but still...

Also, can you check the Cure scroll thing for me?

>>146283832
no its just a 1 pointer, people who miss out well its tough luck on them

>>146283847
>is okay to roll with just divine might lv 3?
No, it's not. Divine Might is insanely good, you max it. If you accidentally didn't max it you either reroll or respec.

>>146283716
>but its smaller, slower, weaker
It does more damage though, unless I'm missing something.
It does hit about 40 times, right?

>>146283716
Oh thanks.

>>146284064
flame ground hits exactly once a second, frost cloud hits 3 times

flame ground also hits like a wet noodle

>>146283406
10+5-7 is still more than any other aoe in this game, especially with its radius size and no hit limit

>>146283584
What build anon? just necro 2 or did you fit some sorc in?

>>146283832
Nothing to max in Scout3 actually.
You max flare shot, barrel and split arrow then cloaking 6 and then put it on anything you want.

>need 4 mutant cards to summon shoggoth
what fucking retard thought of this idea?

Future pyro here. Is flame wall a strong dmg skill? At max level it says 8 tiles 17 hits. It sounds like fun to drop a big ol wall of fire down, but I dont want to gimp myself.

Zaibas cloud when?

>>146284431

LORD OF VERMILION

>>146284064
>>146284183
both 30 hits if maxed
cooldown almost same. 25sec 30sec

FC has a lot higher base dmg

>>146283847
Divine Might should be maxed. It's one of the main reasons you go Cleric2.
You'll be fine taking points out of Safety Zone for it as long as you max the attribute.
Safety Zone doesn't really run out of hits unless you're running with a Pelt3 in a dungeon.

Most people put Hexing at 6 points since that puts the AoE attack ratio of it at 10, which is more than enough.
You could take out a point in Zombify and put it in Hexing, but I'd test the waters in-game and see how 5 points works out first.

>Also, can you check the Cure scroll thing for me?
I can't get into the game at the moment otherwise I would.

>>146284407
You only need 1.

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>>146281424
>>146281641
reminder that you can get shoot!
>>146281198
cow ears are the cutest!

>>146284183
It hits much faster than that sempai.

>>146284416
Its the best.

Leave fireball and flame ground at 1.

Max flare and flame wall.

>>146284538
only sluts wear tight short shorts

>>146284416
Kinda shit at low lvl and shit without linker

>>146284576
thanks miss info

MILK

COW

MOO

>>146284576
flame ground is shit i bet you put more than 1-3 point in it

>>146283847
>>146284480
I wouldn't put more than 5 points into Hexing.
It's not just the tiny AoE you have to worry about, it's the bad targeting. Even in situations where you have 4+ mobs grouped up, it's rare to hit all 4 because you'll auto target the ones on the edge of the group

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>>146284301
so after some farming experiments on Dina Bee Farm, Sorc c1 is actually much faster than Necro c2, but you have to script potions or at least just press potion every 4 minutes. This is I wouldn't be too worried about being caught for autopotting though, IMC hasn't done jackshit about it, and there's literally 30 actual bots in the Dina bee farm map that have been here since the game started.

Sorc c2 is ideal since you can use Hold. Necro C2's skeletons act more like mobbing tools for me.

If you want to rush this just to make money, go Pyro Linker (pick whatever C2) Sorc C2 and just start farming then, that's the dream build.

Surprisingly little competition, I'm surprised people are still trying to go for the dead potion market when the bee farm is still strong.

>>146284480

Sheet, My cleric has the black hair already!

I think I'll do the following: proceed with my safety 5 divine 3 build and roll as you said with zombies and hexing 5/6, if I feel something is wrong, I can test some stuff with the build, specially the zombies stuff and reset it later to fix the divine might thing and decide about the zombies after playing the char.

Thanks, anon.

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>>146284416
I maxed Fireball and Firewall, flame ground was maybe at like 3.

Firewall only hits for its max effect on small type units but fortunately the things you grind on are usually small. But it's amazing when you can find the right mobs. It gives me RO nostalgia when I make a line firewall and mob them through it

Flame Ground scales terribly so its not a huge loss.

I have Pass so I left Enchant Fire at level 1 too.

>>146285189
>hes not a pyrolinkerthaum sorc alchemist making insane profits

>>146285189
M A X
A
X

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>>146284479
>>146284183

>>146285189
STOP THIS EVERGARDEN

>>146285189
>hes forgetting potion expenses

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>>146282910

Real girls are gross anyway.

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>>146285436
IF I MOVE I LOSE MY SPOT!

>>146285401
oh yeah you could just go Thaum Sorc Alchemist too, that's the maximum ultra jew mode.

Stopped playing like 3 weeks ago. Did the game ever get any real updates?

>>146285581
ERP schoolgirl uniforms implemented just like 24h ago.

How much SPR does a sorcerer need? I don't care about my mana pool, I'm just concerned about summon defense.

>>146285581
No go away

>>146285713
0 but preferably less than 0 with minus sp equipment

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>>146285531
the SP potion market already crashed, I spend about 100k on potions to make 1.5 million silver, it's an okay expense. It'll go down a lot more when I get my MAGA rod.

>>146285512
I'm bringing down this bee mafia with no survivors

>>146285556
Do all the future shitters use kancolle images now? Is this some group avatarfagging of some kind?