World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

What happens with garrisons once legion hits?

There's a lot of content locked behind Garrisons, but also too much incentive to use them after legion hits for them to remain in the current state.

xth for another fucking thread made too early are you retarded

>>146166774
>>146166805
>Old thread is at 750+ posts
>TOO EARLY BRUH

kys

Anyone else more interested in Pristine servers than vanilla?

I'd be excited to play without cross realms, dungeon finders, wow tokens, and cash shop mounts that don't fit the in game aesthetic.

I just started playing to get ready for legion.
How likely am i to be able to get challenge mode gold?
Also, how do raid difficulties/loot work?
You can loot each boss once on every difficulty? or is normal/heroic shared?

>>146166893
it wasn't when the thread was linked

based retard

>>146166793
they'll probably just strip most of the non-essential stuff from them.

>>146166932
Have they explained what Pristine servers will actually be if they do them?

>>146166967
That's fine by me, hopefully they reduce resource costs to match. I just want to see the content and get my heirloom ring.

>>146166932
>playing a grindier current iteration of wow

i'd rather eat a handful of shit than spend 3 months levelling up to wod tier endgame

>>146166964
>WAAAAH I WANTED TO MAKE THE NEW THREAD AGAIN

Your old "new" one got deleted for being made at like 730 posts. Get rekt you fucking faggot. Even better, go play in some freeway traffic.

>>146167064
faggot, i reported the last thread too for being made too early

retard please

>>146167057
It would still just take a week or two of casual play.

I didn't see anything about removing heirlooms or nerfing experience.

>>146167057
>3 months
How new?

>>146166932
The only things that need to go are LFR and CRZ. Pristine servers will just further perpetuate the misconception that every "quality of life" feature that blizzard has introduced is bad.

I think they'll be a novelty at best once people get their head out of their asses.

>>146167127
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>>146167163
that's what it took me to level to 60 in vanilla, how about you? :)

>>146166793
>too much incentive to use them after Legion hits

genuinely don't know why you'd say this but I'll humour you

>>146167064
>being this buttsprained over someone shitting on ERP

holy fuck, this is the greatest thing
my fucking sides
you people are serious about ERP

>>146166793
The only significant change is that all missions with gold rewards will be changed to give garrison resources/apexis crystals/something equally useless.

Oh, and the pet daily is being changed to account-wide so you can only do it on one character per day. Plus it give half as many charms.

>>146167272
I think erp is retarded too. But the giant paragraph in the OP, and fucking idiotic name of the last thread was so bad. That OP should drink some bleach.

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Legion is gonna be bad.

Does Blizzard have any real plans to address every server's economy going to shit?

Or are they just nerfing new gold income to drive up token sales and calling it a day?

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Where are all my friends :(

How long does it take to honor/desecrate all the midsummer bonfires?

>>146167448
Question: when people post images of their female characters do they actually believe they're attractive?

>>146167636
You can do it in about three hours with a flying mount, shorter if you know the locations by heart and aren't reading a map guide for them.

>>146167575
>Sadness.png
>JPEG artifacts
You can't increase quality by re-saving it as a different filetype, jackass.

>>146167448

cute human

>>146167446
>3 lines
>giant paragraph

I guess if you're an Amerifat whose reading speed is like 30wpm it's giant.

>>146167730
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>>146167460
They're also adding stuff like the 2 million gold mount to sink some of it.

>>146167748
Yes, what a great counter-point. My argument has crumbled at the support beams. I am defeated.

>>146167823
This is such a bad idea.

>>146167448
2LEWD

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>>146167869

>>146167884
Because you don't have that much gold?

>>146167448
post the lower half anon!

>>146167823
>probably going to be some shitty 2 person mount that has merchants on it

The only thing I could ever think being worth 2m gold is a flying, controllable Zeppelin, that all your friends can board, and you can drive it where you want in any realm.

Some giant sky-base that like's a flying Garrison, with all those useful vendors.

That's about the only mount I could possibly see being worth 2m. I accumulate gold because I like to have a lot of it, not so I can spend half of my worth on a mount that most certainly will not be worth 2m.

I still haven't even bought the 20k mounts from Dalaran.

>>146168146
How the fuck are you capable of jerking off to this kind of shit?

>>146168303
>probably going to be some shitty 2 person mount that has merchants on it
Not even that, it's just a big spider. Unique model, but nothing special other than that.

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Should me and my bf play on a RP or PVP server?
We're not really into RP but the world would feel more alive and be comfier right? Getting ganked by high levels or heirloom gear players while our accounts are new kind of sucks too.

We're yuro and going to play horde.

>>146168619
PvP if you want to level up while getting to know the game

RP if you want to have your hand held

RP-PvP if you want no significant experience of either RP or PvP

>>146168619
are you a girl
dump him and be my gf

>>146168619
Don't play World of Warcraft. Don't do this to yourselves. Don't do this to your relationship.

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Can we start a Wowg guild on Tichondrius US? I fucking hate the guild I'm in and all the other ones are just as bad

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>>146168824
What if we want to get to know the game while being comfy?

We played a very pvp heavy mmo before this so we like that kind of stuff but isn't most pvp instance based in this anyway?
>>146168930
We've done worse, korean mmo's are grindy.

>>146169121
I tried to warn you.

>>146169116
Sure, go make one, put it in the next /wowg/ op.


>>146169121
World PvP is hardly a fucking issue. I, recently, leveled up a rogue from 0-100 on a PvP server, I got ganked by a higher level maybe twice.
For the most part, they'll just swoop down low, kill you, and mount up and leave. I've literally never encountered one who stuck around for longer than one kill on me before he left.

As far as getting ganked by Heirloomed faggots, if there's two of you, it'll hardly be a problem.

Noob ganking hasn't been a fucking issue since like vanilla-WoW. Even then, it was certain zones that you learn to avoid.

Why are there so many chinks on Illidan?

>>146169346
Is world pvp impossible on an RP server?

We tried a PVP server a bit but the world didn't feel very alive and that's why we're considering RP.
Also since battlegrounds and stuff are cross server is there even any point on being on a pvp server?

>>146169346
I have neither the time, patience, nor willingness to GM a guild. Figured I could maybe encourage someone else with more time to start it off

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movie coming out and new expansion, bring fresh blood, thia year we get good harvest

>>146169556
You probably played on a lower pop server or during a low traffic time. Pvp servers are nice because when you're grinding quests/dailies/mats sometimes you have to fight for your life or your pride against someone who happens to be trying to kill/gather the same thing you are. It's a nice change of pace.

>>146169556
World PvP is impossible on any server that's not PvP enabled.

RP servers, from what I assume - I've never played one - are alive only in certain areas.

You might find some weirdos out in the wild RPing, that's probably a given, but I really doubt that many zones from 1-100 are populated with just people everywhere RPing. I could be wrong, if anyone with RP experience wants to weigh in.

The world in any server isn't going to feel very alive for leveling, because, well, it fucking isn't. Most people are in dungeons, or raids, or battlegrounds, or they're just idling in cities. Test them both out. Or don't
I don't give a fuck. My dog died.

>>146169556
>>146169815
Contd. If you're going to play WoW, you'll want to be on a good server. Though, that hardly matters much these days.

Anyway, here's a site that ranks realms.

http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us

Is legion going to unfuck professions? Is it going to make it viable to farm lower level mats again?

Or is still going to be fucked?

>>146169729
>sometimes you have to fight for your life or your pride against someone who happens to be trying to kill/gatger the same thing you are. It's a nice change of pace.
No. You're an idiotic autistic piece of retarded shit.

9 times out of 10 you're simply questing or grinding, and a max level character comes off his mount and one shots you, mounts up and leaves (or camps you).

There's no "fighting for your life". This was only true back in the day, when max level characters didn't have literally over 100x the stats. Level 50s could actually escape from 60s in Vanilla, and even a decent level 40 could flee from a level 70 in TBC.

Nowadays it's just miserable being on a PvP server U N L E S S you yourself are level 100 and stand a fighting chance. Then, and only then, is it worth considering a PvP server.

Don't fucking talk about how it's more fun to level on one because it's simply not.

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>705+ fast run
>be 714
>declined

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>>146169729
We played on Outland and only really saw a few heirloom nerds running around with their pretty mounts.
>>146169815
>World PvP is impossible on any server that's not PvP enabled
In every zone?
That sounds pretty boring.
>My dog died
That sucks ;_;
>>146170319
So we should consider an RP server for comfy and just leveling with a new account?
Getting killed by shitty high levels seems pretty frustrating.

>>146170373
link AotC and ring for quick invite :^)

>>146170223
WoD professions are/were fucked because you can just build garrison buildings instead of looking for someone with the profession that makes the thing you want, not because you could start from 1 with the most recent materials

>>146170464
Don't listen to >>146170319, he's literally lying to get you to play on an RP server - for whatever the retarded reason.

I've been playing on PvP realms for literally over a decade, and have never had an experience like what he's saying. Like I said, questing from 1-100, I got ganked literally twice by a 100.

If you want to RP, go and RP. I heard Wormrest Accord was great for horde RP.

>>146170652
Why the fuck would blizzard kill professions?

Who the fuck designed WoD what the fuck

>>146170464
>Getting killed by shitty high levels seems pretty frustrating.
Oh, it is. And don't listen to ANYONE who tells you it won't happen.

With Cross-Realm-Zones, the feature that makes Redridge Mountains and The Barrens shared with dozens of realms, the likelyhood of an autistic faggot max level camping lowbies is multiplied tenfold at any hour of the day, because, well, even if you're on a low-pop realm it only takes one asshole from one realm to grief the whole "cluster" of realms who connect to the Cross-Realm-Zone.

So back in the day if you played on Emerald Dream or something, someone else from Emerald Dream would have to come gank you.
These days someone from Illidan or some other server will be there fucking your shit up and there's no opt-out for this.

>>146170695
I don't care about him being on an RP server. I'm just giving him the cold hard facts about PvP realms and how miserable they can be. He can choose a normal PvE server for all I care.

>playing on PvP realms for over a decade
>never been ganked by an autist max level while leveling
Spotted the faggot who sits in the capital city and queues for dungeons to level.

Your advice and information is invalid. You're never out in the world experiencing it. Just shut the fuck up.
So, to the newby anon, if you have any doubts about the advice and information I am giving you, just search the official wow forums for "pvp" "ganking" "lowbies" and look at all the hits and threads. I'm not making this up.

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>>146166774
>>146167272
>>146167730
>>146167869

I know ERP is retarded but you really don't have to be a special snowflake about the fact that you wrote that by trying to get it into the OP every thread.

>>146170652
The garrison buildings couldn't craft everything. They weren't a replacement for someone with the actual profession.

>>146170652
not to mention
>Savage Bloods are BoP despite being required for every profession, meaning anyone who wanted to craft seriously needed to build a tier 3 barn
god tier design

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>>146170695
Seems to me like you would miss out a bit on both servers but mostly getting killed by people who played this game for an eternity.

I guess there's always server transfer but it seems a bit pricey
>>146170919
What about low level vs low level pvp or good high level fights in open world?
Is that a thing or is everyone just sitting in the cities queuing for instanced pvp .

>>146170785
To reduce the reliance on other players and promote the garrison.

>>146170919
>played for over a decade on PvP realms
>que'd up for dungeons to level up

You must be new to WoW, huh, tough guy?

Your opinion is worthless and inaccurate as fuck. Yeah, people might get ganked in the newer starting areas, but in literally every other fucking zone, 95% of the fucking game, that shit hardly ever goddamn happens.

You could literally go days without seeing a max level flying around while you're going 0-60 in Azeroth.

Are you fucking dumb or something? Have you even ever leveled up on a PvP realm? Oh, let me guess, you transferred your main to Illidan, and now you're just some sort of expert on it, huh?

>>146171158
>Savage Bloods are BoP
No they aren't?

>>146171205
That was a smart design decision.

>>146171158
bloods aren't and never were BoP

>>146171327
>>146171436
shit I'm retarded

the main resource for all of the professions were both BoP and locked behind Farmville, which is different but just as harmful to the profession experience

I WANT MEME HUNTERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hello /wowg

I just came back in WoW after a break, and I started over with a friend. It seems that heirloom has changed, you have to craft (summon) it now instead of sending it over and over between your alts; which is cool.

But I wonder how does the T.Mog work then?

I used to T.Mog on my main character who has the cool-looking items and then send it.
But now the reroll make their own heirloom so is there any way to T.Mog it with end-game stuff, while leveling?

I was never very good at WoW but god do I miss it. How expensive are game time tokens on medium population servers now?

>>146171845
The realm doesn't matter. Only region.

>>146171734
not until 7.0 changes the entire system, no

>>146171902
How about NA then? Am I going to have enough gold through past autism to buy a month?

>>146171957
Oh.. So can you not T.Mog the heirlooms at all right now; or can I summon it on my Lv.1, run to an Auction House, buy some stuff here (that I can't equip yet) and T.Mog it anyways?

I'm not sure I get it.

Can we have a Wow humor general once?
These posts make me sad and retarded.

>>146171971
Can you make ~40k a month?

You can watch how the price varies here https://wowtoken.info/

>>146171194
>low level vs low level PvP
This is retarded nowadays too, with incredible imbalance between classes and specs, since everything is "tuned" for max level.

The type of shit to expect is a Holy Paladin (Healer) being able to both out-heal the damage a Mage (DPS) can do, and even out DPS him by spamming one of their abilities.

Lowbie pvp used to be fun but it's just a whole lot of whatthefuck now. Don't recommend it, especially for a new player. Perhaps your second character you should try it but not on the first.

>is that a thing or is everyone just sitting in the cities queuing for instanced pvp
You can queue for instanced pvp while out in the world, so even the gankers can be ganking while in a queue for a battleground or arena.

As for actual people (not autistic max level cunts) out in the world leveling, they tend to out-level the zones with heirlooms so it's not common to see an appropriately leveled character except for at the beginning of each zone. And them PvPing is not very likely, most levelers are inbetween ganks and just want to get their shit done with, not dick around fighting an equal level opponent.

>>146170464
New player here. Leveled from 1-60 on a PvP BR server and only got killed by a high level player once.
The occasional fights against players of same level are fun. Yesterday I saw a guy from the alliancs getting ganked by two horde scum, went to help him and we ended killing both gankers. Pretty fun. There is a lot more ganking and pvp in expansion areas, but only rarely I get attacked by players of muh higher level. It's fun. Enjoying it a lot more than PvE.

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I want to make a demon hunter but I need a name.
Any ideas? I got
Edgglawd
Hawtopyc
Saucekei
Coauldsteele

>>146172429
darksixtynine
illidanfromdeaths
flyingbiscuit
notpreparedqt
djwingedwrath

you pick.

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>>146172550
>illidanfromdeaths

>>146172429
Dantefromdmc

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>>146172128
This is kind of what I expected, I think we were the only players without heirloom gear that we saw.

Will Legion add any open world pvp that we would miss out on?
>>146172369
Regular pve servers seem a bit pointless but RP at least adds some comfiness

wow

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woa finally

What's /wowg/ up to now?

>>146172550
literally all of those are longer than 12 characters, are you even trying

>>146173592
leveling a new character again while waiting for Legion because it's the only MMO where I'm having fun doing it.

>>146173592
just hit 85 on my huntard alt so I guess it's time for Jade Forest

>>146173712
Ask me if I care about characters restrictions.

>>146173592

I'm sitting at a character creation screen trying to figure out if I want to play a DK/, Prot Warrior or Prot pally. I've never tanked before so i don't know shit about this world.

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>>146173592
Trying to get stupid raptor. After all the lockouts reset I'll go do MSV and ToT by myself and not get the mounts or the crown of leishen for timewalking

>>146173931
blood DKs are piss easy. Just throw up diseases and then spam Blood Boil and Death Strike

>>146173954
They should give non-human DKs their own undead mounts. The horse looks so out of place.

>>146174131
I half agree. I still love the horse regardless and use it over anything else. If I ever get voidtalon I'll definitely use that over it though. Raptors are cool but shit like the bone raptor makes me not want one since it looks kind of shitty.

>>146174105
I'm not to concerned about difficulty, I'm looking into what's more fun

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>>146173592
Im going to level another alt through Draenor then kill myself because I suffered through Draenor again

>>146174372

download and play the ptr and see for yourself. It's not completely representative of how they are at 110 with artifacts, but it'll give you a better idea since WoD playstyles aren't nearly the same.

>>146174372
Well Legion will hit soon and I've heard paladin gets dumbed down but DKs should be more involved.

>>146173931
Blood dk shitter here - >>146173954


Go with blood if you want to never die provided you keep hitting buttons
Prot if you want shit to do and want to do big damage with 4set and everything

I wouldn't recommend starting with bear/warrrior since rage is kind of awkward to tank with in my opinion inb4 warrior tanks.

Here's an idea of how easy blood is: I went 12/13M as a blood dk at 10fps(max, normally at 5-7) on all fights on the lowest settings and my guild thought I was fine.

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Why does this happen to me every day? And they're not kidding about the scan slowing my computer down, hence the cell phone picture.

>>146174808
Corrupt installation, dying HDD?

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>>146174808
>Took a picture of your monitor

>>146174654
That's actually a good idea. I honestly forgot the PTR was up.

>>146174706
>>146174718

Awesome, the input is greatly appreciated. Thanks ~anons~

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>>I wonder if she is thinking about me

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Hey guys, rate my mog.

>>146172897
Going from 100 to 110 on a PvP server on Legion during the release (when everyone else is doing the same) could be a fun experience.

After the first few weeks, it'll just result in more of the same. 110s one hitting 100s, etc.

As for true open world PvP (in terms of events, etc) they are usually equally as fun on a PvE server. World PvP spots require players to flag to participate, and once they're flagged, you can attack them just like you could on a PvP realm.

Look up Halaa in Nagrand from TBC, along with the Towers in Hellfire Peninsula.

Essentially PvP is possible on PvE realms, but PvP is simply opt-in, and able to be turned off. But turning PvP off requires the player to be out of combat for 5 minutes after turning it off for it to be turned off.

There are four types or Realms.

>PvE
Normal Realm. PvP is opt-in.
>PvP
Normal Realm, but everyone is always flagged for PvP.
>RP
The same as a PvE realm, only you'll see roleplayers. If your name is xfaggotqtx you'll be reported, temp banned, and get a forced name change. But that happens on any realm. RP realms just have more people who /care/ about other player's names and such.
RP-PvP
The same as an RP realm, only everyone is always flagged for PvP.

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Arbitrary level requirements are being added to quest rewards. If you're like me with twinks, fuck you, you don't get to have any cool gear. You have to wear dreadmist/shadowcraft/beastmaster/valor. Eat shit t. blizzard.

>>146175295
The system is not letting you mog stuff you couldnt mog before, its that simple

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>>146166630
So what do you guys think about class changes for Legion?

I've been reading some forums about classes trying to pick a class for the free boost and from what I see literally every class is crying that they destroyed them.

Warlocks that affliction is weak, destro garbage and demo unknown, Rogues that they have no utilities and need to rely on RNG for fps, Shamans that they won't have a chance against melee, Mages that Frost gets a huge Nerf to slows and burst, Hunters that BM is garbage, MM boring and Survival unviable for anything etc etc

Is anyone happy?

>>146174954
Look, you retarded faggot.

I am not >>146174808 but I will defend his right to take a photo instead of a screenshot, because he fucking specified his reason for doing so.

He said he took a cell phone picture because the scan is raping his computer's performance.

In this situation a photo is fine.
Kill yourself.

>>146174808
Your hard drive which you've got the game installed on might be dying.

A few files going corrupt isn't a sign of a bad hard drive (ok it totally is, by definition) but since this is REPEATEDLY happening, that's bad news. Very bad news.

Normally if something got messed up, it'd just need to fix itself once and then it'd be fine.

This scan should never be a daily thing, unless maybe you're talking about the BETA client or some shit.

>>146175393
Theyre coded in a way that you could. It's why my level 1 twink has Netherstorm Eyepatch and Revilgaz's cutlass transmogs. When Xmogs came out you could transmog heirlooms through the mail. Blizzard is going out of their way to level gate this content and it really shouldn't be done.

Do you honestly prefer seeing everyone below max level in the same 4 heirloom types looking the same?

>>146175474
Shit.

>>146175129
I play on a RPPvP realm and we have plenty of xxfaggotboyxx players and no one cares. Blizzard only cared about it up to WoTLK

>>146170319
No you're clearly the Autist here. I'm taking about running into people you're own fucking level. Context clues you goddamn social retard

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>>146175129
Thanks anon.

We'll go for an RP server and if we change our mind we'll just server transfer at max level or something.

>>146175431
No one's happy ever on the beta class forums, but I'm really looking forward to the changes.

>>146175474
>this mad

lmbo

>>146175431
death knights seem to be getting universally better. Frost can use Obliterate without 4 set T18, Blood doesn't have to pointlessly spam Death Coils to burn runic power, Unholy looks kind of memey but cool

>>146175624
No, they do care.
Right click their name and report it.

The chances of a GM confirming the name is offensive/inappropriate is higher if the player's realm is an RP realm, but they still care and WILL ban/namechange offending players on all realms.

Thing is, most people don't care, especially those not on RP realms. People can go forever with the name Niggércunt so long as nobody reports them, because the system isn't automated beyond some basic filtering on the creation screen.

>>146175819
>posting idiotic meme response when it's uncalled for
>upset someone calls you a retarded faggot

Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6F5dfDm9hk

Can you change your face at a barber?

>>146175585
When xmog came out there was a bug where QUEST rewards could be transmogged onto heirlooms and sent through the mail

and no, level 1s should not be running around in tier sets so fuck off

>cosmetic shit
>content

>>146176079
Yeah.
Assuming this happened after the WoD model revamp.

>>146175431
I really enjoyed playing ww monks on PTR. They seem a lot simpler. So I leveled one to 100 to main it. I learned how fun it is to build up all buffs and unleash a deadly thousand fists. Now I look back to PTR and am sad that it will get a lot simpler.

>>146176079
Yes.

>>146175431
I'm excited to try hpally changes and survival hunter (during WotLK, I played a melee hunter just to annoy people in dungeons, but it turned out to be fun and almost competitive as a BM). I don't like the sound of rogue changes. I'm hoping I'll be able to level my mage without frost spec, without dying every 5 minutes and having abysmal dps.

>>146176173
They already run around in tier sets. Vanilla dungeon tier sets. That's what the heirlooms are retard.

And raid tier items aren't quest rewards. I just want to look like this http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=1067/smoking-pit-armor-recolor#comments

>do 8 detention blocks
>get locked out
isn't the limit supposed to be 10?

>>146176269
>b-but I wouldnt use tier

youre retarded

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>>146176424
He just said he wanted to use some questing set.

Also he never said he wouldn't use tier, he might someday, but that's irrelevant since the fucking untransmogged heirlooms themselves are already a god damn dungeon tier set.

You're the retard

>>146175431
I played BrM at end of mop, start of wod and picked it up again since all other specs and classes feel awful except rogues

legion brm is looking like great fun with the increased focus on brews with multiple charges for gameplay and healing elixirs becoming a 2 charge separate use/auto activate at 35% is looking great

dont have beta tho so I cant speak details about it

>The Legacy of Vanilla WoW - PVP
Ooh this could be fun.
>10 minutes of complaining. Video over.
What were I expecting?

>>146176760
>>10 minutes of complaining
sounds like every time PvPcucks open their mouth

>>146176051
didn't watch lol

>>146176736
I want to sniff your asshole so bad.

I bet it smells slightly musky but in a sexy way.

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la resistance

>>146177010
samefaf!!

>>146166774
>The only women who ERP are fat, obese Moms who hate their husbands
Buddy of mine used to ERP with a chick, barely hid it and wanted to move in with her, almost stalker level
Turn out she was a litteral professional asian-european model, he maried her and they're still together, they dont play wow anymore tho

So for the Legion transmog system—from what I understand anyway—quest gear you've been rewarded is retroactively applied to your account.

Does that work characters I've made since Vanilla sitting on dead servers?

>>146177280
if you've completed a quest, you own that quest's appearances for your class main armor type on the whole account.

wow this game is SO BORING HOLY SHIT

>>146176736
And he isnt the only person you god damn retard

>>146177524
What if the character has been deleted?

>>146175431
people will typically keep their feedback to themselves if they're happy but will let the world know every single feature they dislike

as for me, vengeance DH and prot war look great so far. If something horrible happens and I don't tank in legion, I'll probably go back to rogue

>>146176246
What don't you like about Rogue changes?

Sub looks good for PvP and Outlaw is top dps on ptr and looks quite fun.

Rogues do 90k damage per combo point with eviscerate without the artifact.

Only problem is energy management on outlaw.

>>146177280
>Does that work characters I've made since Vanilla sitting on dead servers?
Yes.

>>146177767
Then not. Only if you're still able to get them back.

>>146177767
No idea. But check out the new restore system, you may be able to get it back.

>memeharness becoming BoE in Legion

oh boy time to see if I have any other alts with it

>>146177931
dude, ptr dps is meaningless
i like outlaw and everything, but you're ten level and one artifact early to look at DPS.

>>146178083
What's a fucking memeharness you retard

>>146177931
>play rogue since the dawn of human history
>they became boring as fuck as expansion progressed
does anybody else feel like blizz added random spells to make the class "complicated"? I feel like I have a bunch of spells for the looks rather than usefulness.

back in tbc you actually have tools to stunlock and tools to escape, now it feels like my spellbook is full of garbage with all the passives as well

and dont even remind me of mop.

>>146175823
>>146176184
>>146176246
>>146176737
>>146177842
Granted there are a couple of classes that don't mind the changes like monks and dk's but from what I see the bad majority is complaining hard even saying that they are all rerolling like warlocks.

>>146178231
ebin rare cannothave shirt
http://legion.wowhead.com/item=6125/brawlers-harness

>>146178170
I know but rogues do look good and might be finally fun to PvE with.

>>146175295
That's good if you ask me. It would be retarded seeing a level 10 guy walking arround in a Txx set.

>>146178342
if you go to a BREXIT rally and ask people around if they want britain to leave EU, most will answer "yes"
Does it mean most brits want to leave EU? no, the brits who don't want to leave EU just aren't at that rally

the forums are the exact same thing

>>146178427
listen you fucking mongoloid
aint nobody buying ur dumb shirts
fuck off

>>146178535
they already walk around in Txx sets you fucking retard what do you think the heirlooms are modeled after?

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Any racial changes for undead/orcs in legion?

>>146178508
Yes they do. If i had to DPS, I would absolutely go rogue.
Did they fix grappling hook or is it still slow as fuck and useless?

>>146178675
dungeon sets you mongoloid

>>146178668
doubt I'd be able to sell it, the one I know I have is on fucking Thaurissan

Is prospecting ore back in Legion?

>>146178819
Literally called T0.5 you fucking idiot

>>146178508
>he doesnt know about the 2m DPS Assasination rogue set up
sub is complete shit
outlaw is too rng
as it stands in legion beta right now

>>146178675
>implying wearing one easy to distinguish heirloom set is the same as wearing several levels higher epic gear

this is why I don't go to /wowg/ often

>>146178743
>>146178862

go read the changes yourself, faggot

>decide to main ele sham because their artifact looks the best
>turns out they play like shit on the beta

Fygggg

>>146178906
They never would be able to transmog to "high level epic gear". the requirements were already in place for only quest reward gear to be moggable but they purposefully went in and added restrictions to them. work on your fucking reading comprehension

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcGEIT8HvuM

>>146178892
>muh halftier meme

anyone with a brain called it ds1

>>146179025
>>146179208
>azeroth's most autistic

>>146179129
>they already work around in raid gear
>no, it's not raid gear, heirlooms are a completely different story
>YOU RETARD I NEVER SAID RAID GEAR YOU MUST BE STUPID I WIN WIN WIN

>>146175295
Twinking is L I T E R A L L Y dead in Legion so why you do care

>>146179236
Nope. It was T0.5

>>146179327
What the fuck are you going on about? The original point the guy put out was that they're adding level requirements to quest items when there weren't any before. You're the one who brought up the irrelevant tier item argument.

>>146179472
sounds like you only played with retards then

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>>146179402
level one twinking is alive and well :^)

>>146179775
new levels of autism

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>>146178906
>>146179236
>>146179327
>>146179592
>>146179875
You should get off the computer, and get some air. You're being dangerously contrarian

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>>146179875
noob that i ganked detected

>>146179775
>level one twinking
>alive
I wish

>18 illidan kills
>0 glaives
send help

How is disc in Legion, it looks cool because i love damage dealing healers, played warrior priest / disciple of Khaine in warhammer online, but everytime i look at the forums its just people crying about how they want to be a healer absorb class not a hybrid

>>146181197
disc in its current state is 30% dps 30% healer and 40% unimaginable horrors of being stuck in a hybrid role where you dont matter

>>146181183
I'm at 20 kills and still no glaives, about to run it again right now though
they will drop before we lose burst of speed in legion r-right?

>>146181685
wait... we lose burst of speed?

ILLIDAN MY MAN

>>146181197
On the PTR, my penance atonement healing does 7.5k healing WITH SCHISM UP. Smites without Schism up are healing for 8.7k.

Disc is going to be absolute dog shit in 5 mans and will probably be extremely mediocre in raids.

>>146181685
>>146181183
I had about 35 kills on him before the other glaive dropped. Good luck.

Now I'm trying to get the fucking cloak he drops
6 kills and no sign, saw OH glaive drop twice, thankfully a guildy was there to take it

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>>146181826
holy fuck that took a while to dig out

Are there any interesting uses of class abilities in the artifact questline or class order hall campaign? I'm thinking something along the lines of having to use DH glide from Dalaran to get to your class hall, or the rogue quests for the legendary daggers from DS that had you use your entire spellbook to complete.

>>146182016
what cloak is that exactly?

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>>146182469
http://www.wowhead.com/item=32524/shroud-of-the-highborne
I wanted it for T18m DK because I used it at the time. Now I have my own "unique" transmog that definitely isn't me just slapping two sets together

>>146183039
Cazic...

>>146183079
that actually looks pretty good
i have the red and purple-green versions of the cloak but this one seems good with twinblades or generally a green themed set

>>146183079

That looks like shit. Why do you morons try so hard to throw random pieces of gear together for the sole purpose of being "unique?"

>>146183624
>He didn't get a CM mog

LMBOOOO

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>look up /wowg/ after a year of not visiting this shithole
>80% posts are exactly the same
That's some new levels of autism.

>>146183436
I'd use the whole set minus the helm if I had it. I just like the shoulders so I threw some garbage I had in void storage/bank to 'match' it.
>try so hard
? I normally use t18m DK set or T18m Paladin set. Just wanted a change of pace. I'll switch back to dk tier if I can get cata's edge to drop from fucking archimonde AND that cloak.
>>146183361
yeah I like it because the DK tier has little bits of green but is mostly grey-ish black.

>>146178649
>ever voting "REMAIN"

Quiet down Muhammad

>>146177931
Well first, I've hated combat since I first started the game in WotLK, when my friend who'd been playing since vanilla tricked me into playing combat. I don't want to play a swashbuckling faggot. Beyond that, I don't like that ass is the only spec with poisons. Sub is my shit, and it still sounds OK, so I don't know. I play PvE almost exclusively, though.

Every fucking time
>get home late from work
>just 1 more round
>1 am, 1 more match to level up
>be done with it, sacrifice sleep
>legendary drops
3 nights in a row.

>>146183624

>choosing look like shit just so you can be a special snowflake

Only shitters do this, though, if you've noticed.

>>146183979
wrong general retard

>>146168824
Did Emerald Dream die? When I used to play RP and PVP were fucking everywhere

anybody on defias brotherhood eu wanna have some fun

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legion fucking when

Is the movie promotion still going or is it too late to get the free game?

>>146184784
August 30th <:^)))

>>146169986
>http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us
Are those horde/alliance numbers correct? Why are some realms 90% one or the other?

>>146185592
is this actually the most autistic general in all of /vg/? what the fuck is the point in posting this over and over again?

>>146185753
its a meme apparently

>>146185753
What is the point in continuing to read it?

>>146185753
yes

>>146185753
he needs attention and cant get it any other way
just forces himself onto people

What class should i play out of Warrior, Rogue, Mage or Warlock?

They all look fun as hell come Legion, but i can't decide which one to focus on first.

>>146185942
>be super autistic and cringy
>get called out
>fall back to the "ITS A MEME" defense
Just kill yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6F5dfDm9hk&t=28

>>146185991
you're fucking retarded holy shit here have your negative attention you pathetic faggot

What would be the fastest way to farm blue shards from northrend dungeons? Which one? I'm thinking hall of stones

>>146186423
didnt watch lol

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>quit wow because I was sick of the 40 different difficulties for raiding
>decide to check if they are addressing it in legion today
>they've since added more difficulties to 5mans

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM BLIZZARD AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GOING TO REALIZE THAT ADDING MORE DIFFICULTIES IS NOT CREATING MORE CONTENT OR FIXING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME

>>146186423
i neither posted the meme or support it
so, kill YOURself, my man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEwQOaG5BDg

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How come I've got PTR on battlenet without a subscription but my friend with the same doesnt have the PTR option?

>>146186782
because your friend isn't in the PTR

>>146186636
breh are you too retarded to keep track of a few difficulty settings?

Are any professions useful right now/will be useful when legion comes? I haven't played since cata and it seems all of it is fucked or maybe its just people memeing idk, if they aren't gold makers anymore are any of them at least worth taking just for fun or for gearing myself up?

>>146181826
>store helm

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>>146186932
So current WoW players actually support there being 40 different difficulties for everything in the game?

I guess they know what they're doing then. I'm glad you enjoy all that """"""content"""""""

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>>146187397
>>146187548
do NOT say TROLLS are doing it u noob

>>146181826
>helm has a much higher poly count than any other piece

looks like shit desu

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>>146187397

>>146187510
Why else do you think they keep increasing the cost of expansions? Mythic 5 mans are the best thing to happen to this game since vanilla

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>>146187510
I guess to a retard like you anything past 1 might as well be 40, practice counting your numbers and maybe it will get easier

>>146175116
Violence is usually the answer.

>>146187908
>literally has no argument

Guess people take "mythic" dungeons more seriously than I thought, didn't mean to offend your cherished hobby of doing slightly more difficult 5 man content with the same skins, lore, and atmosphere

>>146186518
pls

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>>146188130
>literally has no argument
>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate
lmao come back when you can count to 3 without getting confused and ending up at 40

>>146188371
>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate
Want to try that again bud?

>>146187896
>WoD is 60 for standard
>Legion is 50 for standard

>increasing

????

>>146188525
>>WoD is 60 for standard
[citation needed]

>>146188450
Did you not understand it the first time? Understandable, since you have trouble counting and all guess you wouldn't be good at reading either. That's ok take your time go back and read it then come back.

>>146188609
So you actually think that's how that english language works?

Here I am thinking that the namefags were the most autistic people in this thread

>>146188371
but there are more than 3 difficulties in Legion?

Also
>stop using hyperbole reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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How hard is brawlers as a mage?

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>doing bonfires
>get nostalgic while going through old zones
>want to start a new character but know it'll never be as fun as when you first started playing WoW
Anyone else get feels like this? Feels bad. At least it's still beautiful and calm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBBxm3yTr0

>>146188819
As hard as rolling a die

i want mu wowg back

>>146188819
With a decent ilvl, easy as shit except gimmicky fights that involve movement and other non-combat stuff before being able to damage or kill the boss (only the last "main" boss and the special card bosses come to mind).

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>>146188758
What buttfuck stupid eurocuck country are you from that you can't understand what I'm saying? Fucking retard.

>>146189002
>your so dum becuz u can't understand my autizm spek

Maybe if you knew how to speak english you would have a friend

How advisable would it be for me to jump into WoW after playing WC3?

Is starting over 10 years in at legion just an insurmountable barrier to enjoyment and the full experience?

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>they play in third person camera instead of first

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>>146189127
There was nothing wrong with what I said, if you can't understand it you might be an actual retard lmao just stop posting you fucking mouth breather go do your flash cards

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>>146189296
>There was nothing wrong with what I said
>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146189525
Yes, if you can't understand what I said then you are literally a fucking retard

So what the fuck do I do as an afflic lock.

It seems no matter what Even through my deffensive abilities melee dps still runs a train on me.

Is it just guna be like this till i get honor geared?

Hey /wowg/ past ilvl 670ish whats the fastest way to get more gear? Ashran and earn honor for 700 or 710 pieces as I have been doing? Raids?

My friends are super stronk and i'm always out of place when we world pvp and arenas and stuff because lack of gear and playing like 4 different characters. I want to focus on one now.

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>>146189924
barrage hunter my friend

>>146190146

Hit 70 on a mage 3 days ago, after doing Ashran the last 3 days I'm already in full 700s. So I'd suggest Ashran.

>>146190194
?

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>>146189768
>Yes, if you can't understand what I said then you are literally a fucking retard
>>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146190619
when u learn to post in the right gen.

>>146190619
wrong thread buddo

this is autism and social reject general

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>>146190547
Learn to read you fucking retard.

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>>146190801
>>146191079
>>>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>facebook frog posters

what classes are looking good in legion

>>146188758
>>146189002
>>146189127
>>146189296
>>146189525
>>146189768
>>146190547
>>146190801
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARDS. NAME CALLING ISN'T AN ARGUMENT ANYMORE. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WANTING MULTIPLE RAIDS AND NOT JUST 4 DIFFICULTIES OF THE SAME FUCKING ONE.

>>146188863
>running through tirifsal glades
>first time getting to ratchet and spending two weeks there
>arriving to stv just to do pvp instead of leveling
>continuing the bloodbath in tanaris
thanks blizzard

>>146191181
Learn to read you dumb fucking nigger, there is literally nothing wrong with that sentence

>>146191391
I never said there shouldn't be more raids I was just being cheeky making fun of this sperg and farming his loosh

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>>146191391
implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146191629
I don't see whats wrong with that sentence

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>>146191538
>Learn to read you dumb fucking nigger
>>>>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146191629
>>146191829

>get btfo
>latch onto some stupid shit no one cares about
>be wrong about it at the same time and look like a massive retard
You're fucking stupid lmao drink some bleach you dumb nigger.

>>146173592
wut weapon is that?

>>146191930
What did you expect from dumb frogposter?

>>146191829
no he is right, that sentence makes sense you are just fucking retarded, now go be autistic somewhere else.

>guy AFKing in storm shield with Felsteel Annihilator
>check armory
>Mythic Archimonde x1

>>146192101
Fun thing is, Sky Golem looks better.

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>>146192035
What about that sentence doesn't make sense to you? Are you actually this retarded or just pretending?

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>>146188863
>know it'll never be as fun as when you first started playing WoW
That's not just a nostalgia thing.

Many people know WoW will never be as fun as when they first started, because the game has gone to shit. It'll just never be the same. It won't ever be as good as it once was.

>depth and complexity
Pruning has ruined most of this.
You don't even get your class buffs (or even be capable of receiving one by a higher lvl) in some cases until you're like level 70+
>discovering places
This is still a thing, though plenty of people have seen every inch of Azeroth. Personally, I still like flying around and checking shit out even though I've seen most of it all before. The discovery feeling is refreshed with each new zone.
>meeting people while leveling
All you usually meet now are retards in dungeons
You used to naturally talk to people more when you were questing together and traveling between spots, or to a dungeon entrance. Now it's queue up, zerg dungeon, leave, requeue.
No time to make friends.
>Dying to NPCs because you accidentally pulled more than you can handle
Everyone has self heals out the ass nowadays this rarely happens unless you suck.
>being unable to solo everything
You can solo mostly everything from 1-100. You will never again come across a group quest which requires grouping, such as Durn the Hungerer, because they literally got nerfed. Elites are also mostly extinct. Durn nowadays is a fucking non-elite, non hard-hitting piece of shit now.

As for feeling nostalgic going through the zones, you can blame shit game design for that. There's no reason to ever go to the old zones, so you end up only ever seeing them for some shit like the bonfires during a once-a-year event.

IMO, going forward, professions should become more like they were years ago (no BoP fucking mats for one) and they should start to use old world mats for some things. Herbalists, Skinners, and Miners should have some incentive to farm old world shit every now and then.

dumb frogposter:the thread

>>146192325
dumb fuck frogposter, thanks for all the loosh, stay retarded

>>146192314
Rae...

>>146192325
fucking retard lmao

Trying to decide on who to level my main for legion. Been doing some research and it seems everyone is upset with the warlock changes, which I wanted to main. I might just stick to my chicken druid.

Also coming back to WoW for the last two months before prepatch has left me a bit sad that any warlock can get the green fire with ease. At least my Black Harvest title means something but when people with 700 gear doing the greenfire quest with ease makes me a bit sad. Felt cool back when it first came out and only the people who were "gud" got it done.

People who play with Show Own Name on..

Why?

>>146192314
>IMO, going forward, professions should become more like they were years ago (no BoP fucking mats for one)
But isn't that what they're already doing in Legion anyway? The only BoP component is Blood of Sargeras, which acts like the primals in TBC and orbs in WotLK/Cata.

>>146192795
dumb fuckin frog posters

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How do we try out the PTR?
I'm afraid to see what pruning has done but I wanna check out that wardrobe shit.

Also if I have a BoE item can I copy my toon to the PTR with it, and use it for mogging? Or do we lose our inventories and shit while copying the toon?

>>146193220
Above the play button on the WoW launcher should be a little drop down menu. Click that, select PTR, and install it, but beware that it's just as big as a regular WoW install

And yes your copied characters are exactly the same as on live, inventory and all

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>>146193131
>>>>>>>>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146193116
Don't you fucking "The only BoP component is..." me, bro.

Blood of Sargeras is basically needed for everything.

Person: Hey, can you craft [Item] for me?
You: Sure, if you get me the mats.
Person: Uhh I can't trade you the Blood of Sargeras...
You:

What do you say if you DON'T have your own Bloods of Sargeras?

Having any BoP crafting material is shit design. Primals and Orbs worked in TBC and Wrath because they were tradeable.

I don't care if they're essentially the same thing in Legion, they MUST be tradeable or they're absolute shit.

>>146193431
is this the average frogposter?

>>146193528
>Having any BoP crafting material is shit design. Primals and Orbs worked in TBC and Wrath because they were tradeable.
Except they weren't. Only at the end of each expansion did they become tradeable.

Did you actually play in any of them?

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>>146193732
>>>>>>>>>>>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

>>146193528
While having them as BoP instead of BoA is retarded, I agree with Ion in his Q&A that this adds power to the crafter. You are not getting gold for 10 seconds of clicking, but instead for your own time spent outdoors farming blood. That way you can charge for more.

Can someone explain why warlocks are shit for this new expansion and are rerolling?

>>146177280
Got my Argent Avenger transmog that I vendored back in 2007, so yeah pretty retroactive

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Le Ice Stone has melted XD

XD

XDXD

I'm leveling enh shaman from 90-100 right now and it feels so clunky. Does it get any better at 100?

I've played a lot of other classes and this one by far feels the most awkward. I love the aesthetic of a enh shaman but I'm not so sure about playing one as my main now.

>implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

The fuck does this even mean

>>146195280
enhance shaman is the most poorly made spec in the entire game and that doesn't change at any level

>>146195347
if you are too stupid to understand what that means you need to just end yourself right now, I'm completely serious

>>146195347
kys

>>146195571
>>146195664
Wow you're really upset by this lol

>>146195280
What do you mean by clunky? Enh shaman is probably the most fun class I've played; with all the buttons to press and options you have. Also best AOE class in the game. Too bad blizzard is shitting on it in legion.

>>146195475
How is it poorly made? Its just a niche spec that specializes in AOE.
>he doesnt know that dank feeling when hitting the fire nova button when the tank pulls a big pack

>>146195719
kys lol

>>146195347
How are you this fucking autistic? There is nothing confusing about that sentence, and why have you latched onto it so hard? Even if there was a grammar mistake or whatever you are trying to say. no one gives a fuck. There wasn't though which makes you extra retarded.

>>146195719
dumb buttmad frogposter

oh shit im literally streaming
anybody knows how to make OBS stream better with less fps lags?

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>>146195824
>no one gives a fuck

>>146194248
>You are not getting gold for 10 seconds of clicking, but instead for your own time spent outdoors farming blood.
What that really means is you're getting paid for your gathering, not your actual crafting.

But crafting in WoW is so uninvolved, there's not much they can do besides gate either the recipe or the materials. I doubt crafting minigames where the player actually affects the outcome would go down well in WoW.

>>146196087
Except for you I guess, since you got btfo so hard you're going to be thinking about this all day. Thanks for the steady loosh ya dumb faggot.

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>>146196347
are you implying shitposting some retard needs to be treated like an academic debate

I tried playing Warhammer Online, but it was shit, couldn't last 5 minutes.

Do I really have to come back to WoW? Ugh...

>>146196087
dumb fuck frogposting cuck

>>146195767
Maybe I'm just bad but the feel of the class and it's spells just don't seem to have much fluidity. It's just sort of like playing whack a mole for whatever ability comes off cooldown. And having to hard cast lighting bolt occasionally feeling disgusting.

I tried it on the PTR and it was a lot more enjoyable to me having to manage a resource properly.

>>146196469
What is it that you think is wrong with that sentence? I know you won't explain your reasoning because you'll get btfo even harder so you'll just keep repeating it and posting frogs like the dumb fucking faggot you are.

leveling a lock and my deeps are bad in 5 mans as destro, does it get better or should I go affl or demo?

>>146195347
it means he's implying people are taking shit-posting at some idiot too seriously?

I don't know how you found that sentence confusing

english not your first language?

>>146196913
casters have shit DPS in leveling 5 mans because instant cast melee abilities kill everything before you can get a spell off

>>146186356

What class should i play? Choice is killing me, i don't have heirlooms either since it's my first.

how the fuck do I get to space goat island as horde???????????

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>146197234
fly to Ru'theran and then take the boat?

>>146197238
Thought so, fucking retard.