Heroes of the Storm - /hotsg/

gaem on life support

fuck you I deserve to be much higher on the ladder it's not my fault I get paired up with retards and afks

>>146106649
>>146106974

>not silver slug edition

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Trials and tribulations from Silver League. 1-3.

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>>146106974
I am with you, friend.
At least there's one good thing in the near future.

>>146107245

>uther getting trait value
>look up Gazlowe
>literal bronze on hotdogs

Whew.

>>146107305

Wonder if we'll be getting the fear mechanic with this fellow. I hope so.

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literally all day today

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QUICK, CLAIM YOUR FAVORITE BLIZZARD CHARACTER (LORE-WISE)

After 60 games I only got promoted from Gold 2 to Gold 1, guess I need to play better haha :^)

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Hahahahahaha this game is a fucking joke

I lose 194 points even though Diablo was AFK for half the game

inb4 >only constant

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>>146108124
LITERALLY

>>146106649
>wants to buy a skin for one of my characters
>ends up not buying anything because all the extra skins are uglier than the default ones
why do they do this

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

>>146108359
what's that colour
bronze? gold?

>randomly have an active stim

ack what happened

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>it's another mentally challenged illidan episode

>>146109446
Gold 1

Fucking Blizzshit and their retarded MMR system has me in low elo hell

>>146109467
You were drunk the other day and decided to buy the 365days stimpack

>>146109646

>BOUND BY BONE

>>146109446

I don't imagine literal bronze are capable of taking screenshots, let alone altering them.

>>146109939

It's just a random 24 hour stim, looks like. Wonder if it's from the stream earlier.

>>146109646

>dead the entire game
>most experience

Huh.

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>>146108220

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>>146108220

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yes give me the maximum amount of minus rank points when I get matched with a Sonya who deals less damage than tyrande

epic, simply epic

thanks blizzshit for your god awful MMR system

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>be cap
>be lastpick
>have shitters on illidan and etc who dont know when to go in

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>>146111050
anon, you're having a rough day
it's time to stop and take a break

>>146111050
>he thinks -200 is the max
classic goldie

>game isn't fun anymore, but can't quit because of all the time I've already invested in it

>>146111779
sounds like my life

>>146111050
hello ipwnlocks

patch tomorrow
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20157260/upcoming-balance-patch-notes-june-22-2016-6-20-2016

KT
>Living Bomb (W)
>Damage over time reduced from 84 to 50.
>Explosion damage increased from 138 to 200.

Chromie
>Time Trap (E)
>Mana cost reduced from 50 to 25
>Cast range increased by 50%.
>Time Trap Base Health increased from 200 to 300.

Rehgar
>Chain Heal (Q)
>Primary heal amount reduced from 372 to 334.
>Secondary bounce heal amount reduced from 186 to 167.
>Lightning Shield (W)
>Damage increased from 60 damage per second to 64 damage per second.

>Telent Level 4
>Stormcaller (W)
>Mana return increased from 3 to 4 per Hero hit.
>Maximum Mana returned increased from 30 to 40.

>gold 4 draft
>1st pick aba because he's good on hollow
>ok.gif
>2nd picks gazlowe citing merc camps
>3rd pick Jaina without speaking a single word, also russian name
>sweating intensifies
>4th pick dehaka, not even a real tank
>palms trembling
>I pick lili to complete the absolute meme team
>we lose in 4:48, fastest lost in my life
at least we had fun :D

>don't buy into the sonya meme
>end up trying him
>he's actually good
surprised.

>>146113123
>him
FUCK YOU!!!

>>146113123
>him

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I get matched with another Leap Sonya who dies 7 times in 13 minutes

FUCK
YOU
BLIZZARD

THE ONLY CONSTANT IS THE FUCKING RETARDS I GET MATCHED WITH

>>146113123

Should've seen him before the nerfs.

Still pretty great, though, especially if they don't have an easy/reliable way of stopping the spin.

>>146113028


>5 minute loss

good grief did you screenshot that

>>146113349
no one cares, ipwnlocks, go rage on reddit or blizz forums and fuck off

>>146113557
>ipwnlocks
who?

>play halfway through the match
>kinda tough but seems like we are winning
>suddenly 10 minutes ISP network maintenance
>get back expecting -200 points
>instead "PROMOTION"
so you get the points even if you leave, thats interesting...

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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEEEEEEEEEEEE

WHY THE FUCK IS THE MATCHMAKING AND MMR SYSTEM SO SHIT

>>146113631

>>146071113

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>>146113631

>>146113817
If I lose this demotion match because of yet another retard I'm uninstalling HotS

>>146114014
I hope you do if that >>146071113's you.

>>146114014
no one cares about your raging blogging adventures faggot

>>146114081
Are you getting paid to shill for Blizzard's shit tier MMR and matchmaking? Or are you just a corporate fanboy dickhead? In either case, >>/v/ is that way

>>146112836
>kt changes
>literally a buff if his explosion hits another target
>barely a nerf if it doesn't, he loses about 40 damage in total
okay

>>146114168
>if you disagree with me being a shitter and being absolutely incapable of adapting, go to the place I can't even properly link to!
After you.

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If you are having a bad time and to many losses, just play a fun game.
Go unranked/QM
Pick a strange hero. Build your favorite hero in a dumb way.
Try a style you would never do in a real game.
Shake it up and remember that it's just a game.
Lose or win, have a little bit of fun and be silly for one round.
If you can't do this then you need to uninstall.
>yfw you are too serious to have fun

>>146114154
>>146114251
>>>/reddit/

>>146112962
what are the colours supposed to represent

>>146114329
>I'm a pussy who thinks everyone should get a participation medal
Why do you play competitive games? There's farmville if you just want to play for fun

>>146114169
KT is getting a 100% buff. 34 less dmg over time, 62 more to explosion.
Blizz interns can't into balance.

>>146114332
(You)

>>146114332

>not particularly good, and usually just fill to avoid bothering anybody
>go 5-5 in placements, or something
>put in diamond
>on multiple accounts

I honestly don't even know what you have to do to be stuck in Gold.

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>>146114332

>tfw you play like shit and feed like crazy but your team carries you

was still top dmg as I was kt, that hero is so fucking broken

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>>146114519
How did you come to that conclusion?
Play an unranked game in a less serious way to change your mindset = pussy participation medal?
Guess I'm a pussy then.
>mfw

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>>146108220
FOR HONOR

>>146114618
I literally won 8 out of 10 placement matches and got put in fucking Gold 1 because I ended up in elo hell in pre season

Now I can't get out of the new elo hell because I get matched with utter retards

Last two games were Sonya with leap who did less than 25k hero damage

How the fuck is that my fault

>>146114737
>elo

>>146114737

>preseason elo hell

Ehhh, I don't know about that.

>I can't get out of the new elo hell

If you aren't better than the average individual of your current MMR you literally belong there, friend.

Stop blaming your teammates; we all get problematic ones, but they aren't the reason we're "stuck" anywhere.

>>146113812
>gold
>looks like an orange
ok Blizzard

>>146115030
>trying to reason with raging retards who cry "muh mmr hell" thinking they belong in GM
lol?

>always 20-25 points short of promo

fucking kill me

>>146115572
*kills you*
heh >:D

>>146115561

Hey, I'm just trying to see if I can in any way be of assistance.

>>146114519

Wait, what?

>sometimes it's fun and relaxing to just play a strings-free unranked match to wind down after suffering significant rating/mmr losses
>fuck you get out of my competitive game

Relax, friend.

>>146115572

Well, that's unfortunate. I was 15 points off then dropped nearly 2000 before getting back to the promotion. Needless to say I took a break to play some unranked.

>promotion match
>suddenly team full of imbeciles
is this on purpose?

>>146116101

'Just another match.

It's all about finding the strength to queue back up after getting the Brazilian insta-lock first pick Illidan that doesn't speak a word of English two games in a row.

>kaelthas finally gets through
>gets picked by teammate who didn't land a single stun in 20 minutes when he had diablo and uther for setup

>>146116726
I just had a map where kt got through the first ban phase, we were second pick, the enemy team first picks butcher so I thought nice. Then our team picks nazeebo and leoric, and of course they get kael and we lose.

>>146116873
ouch

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wow look I didn't get a retard on my team and I absolutely fucking dominated

there's your fucking silver bullet for the MMR and matchmaking being shit theory

Can you hear when an enemy Dehaka goes into a bush near you?

>>146117478
Yes

>>146117478
Yeah, especially if they got diarrhea.

>>146117314
>guys I got one good game! mming isn't shit!

>>146117314

That Johanna really had a thing for waves, huh.

>>146117478

>play without sound

Okay, that's nice to know. Usually just operate under the assumption he could pop out of any bush at any time if I haven't seen him Z in the past 30 seconds or so.

What am I meant to do when one of my teammates runs into the enemy team alone? I'm in Diamond 3, I figure there should be a minimal amount of retards here.

>>146117557
No, literally 3/4 of all games I am the best player on my team, but I can't progress because I get matched with absolute mouth breathers

MMR rewards points based on win loss only, and doesn't take into account retards going afk or only taking camps or picking leap on sonya

I get punished more severely than my retarded teammates who are more to blame for the loss than me

>>146117314
>only 94k hero dmg by the 23th minute as fucking Fal
bronze af

>>146117834
Got bullied by Nova and Dehaka, your point is moot

>>146117885
>getting bullied by spooky ghost lady of zero damage
>getting bullied by le essence collecting man of slow walking

>>146117885
>getting bullied ny nova and dehaka
>fucking dehaka

bronze is here

>>146117885
>not bullying them
shit falstad

>>146117885
>bullied
>by nova

>>146118067
If you look at the image you'll note Nova's 124k hero damage and Dehaka was their second best player

>>146118154
>>146118181
I am not claiming to be some amazing Falstad player, but I still bossed that game, which only further proves my point that I am way below my true MMR level

>>146117885

>falstad bullied by dehaka and his four inch long tongue on a 20 second cd

anon

>>146117314

Poor Malfurion.

>that nova hero damage what the literal shit

Gazlowe is apparently really strong in Silver league
>place turret
>enemy assassins run away
>team fight
>lay down more turrets
>take robo-goblin to focus turrets
>help secure kills
>take deth-lazer
>take chunks away at enemy assassin who get in turret range
feels good

>>146118734
she was probably hitting johana most of the time

>>146119001
She was bullying me and Lunara most of the time. Lunara was shit and died a lot, I had to retreat a lot.

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>>146112836
>Make Rehgar a fun aggressive support.
>Bit powerful so they ignore his healing output and instead nerf literally everything else and make him back into a healbot.
>THEN nerf his healing.

My jimmies are rustled.

>>146119001

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

>>146118824

Mhm, his turrets are as smart in Bronze as they are in Grand Master, and a lot of melee just can't deal.

>we have to pick inferior ult to control because getting a focus-fire button on our 1 would confuse players

I think he's a ton of fun, and hope they eventually make him playable. First picked him in a diamond smurf game the other day and nobody bothered counterpicking, and it was a steamroll victory in our favor after I hit a four man grav-o.

>>146112836
>>146119243
Isn't he basically like pre-rework Rehgar once these changes go live?

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>>146119243
I feel that feel.
Why do they hate Rehgar?
His heals were not even that strong to begin with. I nice change would have been lower or raise the first target heal and lower/raise the rest of the chain to shift the balance whatever way they feel would be good. A flat nerf to his heal is just mean after all the dmg nerfs.

Bu-but tiny LS buff.

>tychus bragging about his 0 deaths and blaming his team for loss
>while all he did was avoid every teamfight and splitpush
im fine with losing as long as idiots like these also lose, otherwise they might think they are doing it right.

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>FEEL THE VENOM OF NERUB
What's the point of him saying this (other than being a w3 phrase) if blizzard didin't add even 1 (one) "venom"/dot ability/talent to good ol' anub'arak

>>146120027

>people who mindlessly run into objectives and don't think they're at fault
>people who avoid conflict throughout the entire game but never die

They do think they're right, though, and then go and complain to others about how they constantly get teammates that don't come to objectives, or how they are the only one that doesn't feed, etc.

Game doesn't really do a good job at slapping your hands away from the controls, informing you that it's YOU that is the problem.

Sort of like Abathur. People don't realize how ineffective he can be, and usually is at low MMR. Whereas while playing TLV you have Erik and Baelog dead for 80% of the match you will *hopefully* at least consider entertaining the notion you aren't the best.

>>146112836
>chromie
>buff

I haven't played this game in awhile, just played against a chromie and she literally1 shot our raynor. The loop thing is also a guaranteed kill if she lands it on you since her team will follow up.

Maybe it's just been awhile but that hero seemed retardedly good

I haven't played in over half a year. Why does everyone hate having Abathur on their team? I remember a good Abathur was incredibly useful, was he nerfed?

>lose 4 games on HL in a row due to having an assassin with shit positioning and constant flaming
>decide to teamstack with a IRL friend
>currently on a 11 winstreak

Why is it that literally 95% of all assassin mains are retarded assholes who think that they are in the right and why are they always Kael, LiMing, Illidan, Greymane or Raynor?

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>diamond 1
>still get placement shitters
>cant escape this one duoqueue of doom where one guy has an affinity to die to random camps or other map objectives
>the one time you get them on the enemy team you throw the game after dominating for 15 minutes
welp that's enough hots for the night

>>146121214

It can be cleansed, and all that. Isn't a guaranteed kill. She's also completely helpless if you get to here (Anub'arak, Zeratul, Sonya)

>>146121381

Yeah, he can still have uses. It's just that there are often better picks, and most people don't pick Abathur because he seems like a good pick; they pick him to pick Abathur.

>if teammates don't know it's a 4v5 until level 10 it can cause your team to fall massively behind
>often abathur players are the first to say they're doing all they can and it isn't their fault,, etc.
>difficult to play, so all the elitism that can potentially come with playing a "hard" hero

>>146121419

Aha, don't forget Valla. It's just something about the glass cannons that attracts the volatile players, I think.

Dehaka is fun, too bad he's going off rotation tomorrow and I'm 4400 gold short of purchasing him. Will return to play him more during the all hero free weekend

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>>146121381
He is incredibly useful, but /vg/ has an aba main at a low MMR currently. He can't get it through his thick head that low MMR players can't play right with an aba.
They don't understand the pros of having and aba, and don't play around the cons of an aba teammate.
This results in the aba player doing fine but the team suffering due to not adjusting their playstyles.
Our aba player then bitches, raves, and general spaghetti's all over the place. He screams about 'muh numbers' and refuses to just play a better carry hero until he gets to a better MMR. Thus he is in 'MMR HELL' and buttmad as fuck.
Somewhat entertaining, but mostly annoying.

from now on "Bronze Breath" should officially be called "Diamond Breath"

>>146122583
>our Aba main
>our
Leave.

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>>146122774
You are welcome to leave anytime, friend.
Until then, we are family/secret club members.
You don't always get to choose your famalam, but you can fuck off anytime, pal.

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R: 110 / I: 26
>Not posting images on an image board.
I think you forgot we are not reddit

levelling up as many heroes as i can while the stim pack boosts last
any heroes i should absolutely definitely level to level 5 while all heroes are available during the weekend? ideally good heroes who'll likely not be part of any upcoming free rotations
currently got rehgar, li li, greymane and sonya
at this rate i could collect all heroes' level up packs and still have some spare starter stim pack time left

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>>146108220
BY FIRE BE PURGED!!!

>>146123442
get Gazlowe to 5 with VS AI games using stimpack, then never touch him

>>146123185
Do you think of tumors as members of your "secret club" now?

>>146123630
eh i'd ideally like to ensure that most of the "vital" heroes are at level 5 so that i don't end up having to go with a meme pick
levelling up memes with vs ai is something i already did on the us servers even without stims so don't worry about that

>>146123442
aba, murky, and vikings are the really rare ones on the free rotation. vikings most of all.

nothing else is all that critical but you can check out the past free stuff to see anything you miss in the past few weeks that might not come around for a month or more. http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/List_of_previous_free_rotations

>>146124785
nifty
thanks for the link, i'll hopefully make good use of this

finally played with medivh in team in ranked
we won ez
medivh op

anyone have a picture of all the portrait borders?

is there a difference between silver and platinum? i can't tell, my eyes are shit

which one is the blue border? what

>>146126848
You are probably silver

>>146127524
i haven't even gotten through my placement matches

>>146127728
They don't matter because MMR was not reset

>>146127975
i was Rank 1 before the change.... ??

i just want to know what fucking colors mean what

>>146128215
Well good for you

Read this http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/game/ranked-play/

>Played 1 match
>It was a fun game that felt pretty even
>Want to play more but don't want to ruin my mood
>Sit around doing nothing instead

I'm in a 2 game lose streak so far, and considering if I should go for it again or just fap

>>146132296
Fap while playing again.

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>>146108220
my cuck queen

>>146114721

NOOO YOU STOLE MY HUSBANDO

Guess I'll take baine then since he's basically the same character.

>>146134047
BAINE?

>>146132804
Should have done that, since I get my third lose

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>duo queue one of which is medivh main
>they rek
i wish i could play with them more, would make the grind 20x easier

>Muradin has a the lowest winrate besides Medivh
>Chromie has a higher winrate than Muradin

What went wrong, or is it just that he's the go-to 2000g tank everybody has, but can't play?

>>146135130
try playing TL and getting 10 min queues

>>146135883

After that finale today I wouldn't be surprised to see his popularity double.

>as if I needed any more reasons to avoid playing ranked

>>146137054
Play Abathur, clone the greymane and show him how it's done

Man that Warcraft movie was something else.

Every Orc scene was great. Every human scene was right out of SyFy with terrible CGI, scripting, and acting. The Mak'gora fight is incredible. The Medivh/Lothar/Khadgar fight with the Golem is some of the worst shit I've ever seen put to film.

What the fucking hell?

>>146137389
Metzen loves Orcs and wishes the Humans were erased from the lore. Movie production staff were all a bunch of LOKTAR HOGGER horde fags. It's just the natural result of those factors.

>>146137389
I agree with everything you stated.

>FROM LIGHT COMES DARKNESS AND FROM DARKNESS.. LIGHT!

>now
>now
>now
>n-now!

This is what happens when you spent your budget to cast good orc actors but can't afford casting decent human actors.

>>146137389

Metzen

>>146137389
>The Mak'gora fight is incredible

Gul'dan ripping off his shirt and turning into the hulk absolutely should not have worked, but it did.

But yeah, the human scenes are a total mess. They should have completely cut Anduin's stupid son subplot.

greymane should have worgen form cleave by default.

Ysiel Windsinger > Tyrande

>>146139461
Medivh's hot mum > everyone else

I wonder what it's like to have a hot mum, my mum was a slag and she was ugly. A hot mum ,mmhh yes.

>>146134028
can someone make a picture in this spirit with lewdness but with jaina and kerrigan? i'd cum buckets and offer them to your lord and savior

I need Murky advice and tips. I like playing this guy but is there anything I should know to play him competitively?

If you point me to a guide make sure it's relevant please.

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what the fuck is "personal rank adjustment"

>>146140872
What the game believes your mmr should be. For the time being blizz thinks you're too high.

>>146140872

>we thought u good
>u lose to pleb
>minus extra point

Something like that, anyways.

>>146140702

>anything I should know?

Li-Ming gets full trait value if you so much as die on the same screen as her, and Tychus/Tracer kill your puffer in less than a third of the amount of time it takes to arm.

:3

>>146140872
you have to be gimped so you don't place too high

>>146139461
>Ysiel Windsinger
who is that?

is diamond the new bronze?

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>>146145985

Everything between Bronze and Diamond honestly feels the same.

>>146145570

NPC in Zangarmarsh.

Turns you into a bird to scout, if that rings any bells.

>>146146265
hows masters? im literally 2 wins away from getting there

>mfw bronzies try to give advice
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/16648685218

>>146147448

'Dunno, but I don't imagine there's a massive leap in skill from high Diamond. I've just been finishing my placements on smurfs then messing around in unranked.

Not sure if it's ladder anxiety, but I've just randomly gotten the urge to get a feel for more heroes, specifically ones I haven't played before, like Chen and Gazlowe.

>I've never had this much fun

>>146147621

After a quick glance I'd say this looks fine as an introductory, babby's first guide. What's the issue, exactly?

>be flexible in draft, or at least communicate ahead of time
>don't first ban kael'thas unless first pick isn't comfortable playing him, or doesn't own him
>sonya isn't really a main tank
>tassadar isn't a healer, and generally can't function as the "solo support"

Looks like a bunch of people in the comments haven't even leveled their accounts.

>again, only skimmed because I'm tired, but doesn't look like the worst

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Your soul shall be mine!

>>146148648
I greet you

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>>146148648
i don't actually know anything about warcraft

>>146148998

Neither, and I've played the crummy MMO for years.

>got started on Hots because I went on a battle pet binge then learned the pet from reaching level 20 in Heroes is busted op
>oh so this is a moba
>ahh I can play as Zagara

And it just sort of went from there.

>>146149201
>got started on Hots because I went on a battle pet binge then learned the pet from reaching level 20 in Heroes is busted op
What?

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>>146149290

hero trades when

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>>146106649
J O H A N N A

>>146150368
>tfw her VA also voices Tyrant Velhari
>tfw no sexy voiced anti-paladin in HotS to match Johanna

>>146151076
tfw you havent had sound enabled since thrall was released

>>146140872
>Personal Rank Adjustment is -42 for me.
I'm Diamond 2 on an account that only played ai matches.

>>146149681
i like that wolf but i dont want to buy wow and spend the thousands of hours it would take to reach max level. I've heard some horror stories.

>>146150368
is johanna the playable crusader from D3 or is she different? seeing as her hair is different, and her flail is in D3. All the other Nephalem look like their proper D3 counterparts except her.

>>146152084
>thousands of hours
LOL!

>>146135501
His win rate is probably so low because all the new players pick him as their first or second buy. Leading to his win rate tanking due to noobs not knowing how to play the game.

>>146152409
She probably is like all other Nephalem.
She knows Diablo, Azmo and Tyrael personally afterall.
Also Sonya and Li Ming are clearly the D3 barb and sorc since they mention Leah and Methan.
Xul also says all the D3 heroes are Nephalem.

So Johanna is probably also the D3 crusader.

>>146152885
Even in HL master/diamond he's incredbly low winrate (~48%) He just isn't that good of a hero. And especially in this meta, warriors aren't THAT good.

>>146153141
how is 48% incredibly low?

>>146154061
Look at hotdogs and come back to us, newfriend.

>>146154061
>3rd lowest hero
>the lowest warrior
g i duno anon, everyone must be wrong. muradin is so good haha. oh also jaina is good too! i love seeing her on my team every game, so glad everyone picks her on my team.

>>146154082
>>146154156
I'm not saying he's the best warrior retards, just saying that 48% isn't INCREDIBLY bad

>>146154203
>3rd lowest hero
Did you even read, faggot?

>>146154234
even if he's the 3rd lowest hero -2% from 50% winrate isn't that bad you know?

>>146154331
Whatever you say, nerd. If you're going to play him, get the knock-back heroic at the very least.

>>146154370
ofc, Haymemer mustard race :D

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Reminder that Medivh is trash and if you get a Medivh in your team just play it like its a 5v4 at that point and just ignore him.

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>>146154795
>most powerful mage on Azeroth
>26% winrate
you can't make this shit up

>>146154795
I've played with 2, MAYBE 3 decent (one was actually good) Medivhs and probably 20+ others on my team that were below decent (shit, basically) but even then, we'd (party) or I'd prefer a regular support most of the time. The only annoyance of him is his bird shit. As an ally, he's basically useless because people just use it as an excuse to be a ward 24/7

>>146154989
[muffled Gul'dan laughing in the distance]

>>146149681
>lvl 100 reward
Who thought this is a good idea?
You're not going to get HotS players to play try WoW that way. Hearthstone did it way better with the Liadrin hero for reaching lvl 20 in WoW.

>>146155998
I think it's directed more to WoW players to make them try HotS desu

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>playing Zagara
>bully people out of lane
>in every teamfight the bullied person starts backline diving me to try to kill me
>slap two mutas and an infested drop on them
>they suddenly realize their mistake and try to flee

>>146156141
How do you like the Mutas? I prefer the extra range and damage talent instead. I've lately been doing this: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/zagara#ckKu Level 1 is either creep regen or baneling range, depending on map.

>waiting till the 24-27 everyone free weekend to try chromie
>shes free this week making it overlap with the free weekend

god damit blizz you robbed me of 3 extra days of free chromie

>>146156248
Mutas ignore terrain, chase for longer, and provide aoe damage in teamfights through their bounce as opposed to focusing exclusively on a single opponent.

The problem with hydras is that their pathing is bad, and the upgrade doesn't make them any faster, so someone like Li Li is always going to outrun them. Mutas will chase them INTO their base, even if they die after getting off a single shot. It can be the difference between getting the kill and getting nothing.

I always take battle momentum over rapid incubation, also, but that's just me being aggressive. Gotta bully to the max.

If I have an ability that does a certain amount of damage and I take a talent that increases that damage by 25%, when I read the tooltip I get:
[Ability] Deals X damage to a target.
[Talent] Damage increased by 25%.

Does the number in the tooltip show the damage increase or do I have to add 25% on top of the number shown?

>>146156248
mutas do more damage outside of single target and chase better

>>146156581
Add on. Same with Chromie and her level 1 talents that increase the damage when you say, hit an enemy 25 times with that skill. You have to add it on. So say her Sandblast is 500 damage, then talent gives 100, it's 600. Then if you have that ability power active (20% IIRC) it's then 20% of the 600 added on top, so it's 720 damage.

>>146156248
Tbh i still go full creep build

>>146156921
Why? Against non-shitters they will actively kill your creep as soon as they see it.

Personally creep is good for the movement speed, tiny bonus regen and most importantly, the vision. Creep build just sounds like you're gimping yourself.

>>146153141
>He just isn't that good of a hero.
The Koreans are mad for playing Muradin, he is a goddamn godly hero. what are you on about? Stop comparing percentages on an unreliable website and take a look what ACTUAL good players choose.

>>146156559
How do you manage mana? Because as soon as I hit rapid incubation I broodmother their structures and teamfights like no one's business. I could never afford that spam without that mana regen.

>>146156994
i replace it right away, that shit spreads across the map. literally a map hack Tbh

>>146157042
>pro games are the same as actual games
It's like being in dota again.

New player here.
Is Xul really good/simple or do I keep getting paired with retards? I haven't lost a match with it, yet

>>146157207
I don't. Zagara's already fucking awful at mana management. You burst, then you hearth or drink from a fountain after a fight. If you've got plenty of creep, getting back to the front's not that much of an issue.

That being said, you do have a point, but bullying isn't a reasonable activity.

>>146154795
Medivh is actually kind of fun

He's terribad but he can be fun, just queue in QM and hope the other team gets a medivh too so the uselessness cancels out

Buzzing people in raven form can be fun, plus you can bodysoak while in raven form, poly bomb is a cool ability but it should probably just be baseline, if your teammates aren't retarded and use your portals the raven familiar talent can get value, stealthing your teammates is a cool ability at lvl 20.

His pew-pew Q is a dumb ability but whatever. Plus his health pool seems too low, idk why they dont let him have a tanky-ish health pool. He's pretty straight squish right now. I enjoy playing him but im aware he is pretty abysmal right now. I would never pick him for ranked.

>>146157207
>>146157725
stop spamming Banelings. Only use them to clear waves or secure kills

>>146157595
Xul is really underrated right now IMO

its like people forgot about him after the release shitstorm and the subsequent nerf, but i think he's like a top 3 hero right now. I think he's stronger than li-ming. Not KT but ming.

How do we fix Leoric?

>>146158162
mfw i havent seen a single leoric or zera since ranked was reset again
and here I thought they would be pretty common
i only just started playing again since i last hit rank 1 in november

>>146158162
calcium

>>146157576
You say the hero isn't good, yet it was picked several times in the Championship. But I'm sure the Pros just really like to push bad heroes tournament rates.

>>146158162
fix his regen master
give him a regen boost equal to 10s shaved off his death timer at lv20 once he collected enough globes
fixed

I just realized why I like this game.

It's so unlike a traditional moba as to remind me of SC and WC3 custom maps rather than yet another dota clone.

>>146158332
They said "isn't that good" not that the hero "isn't good" And you've still failed to address the point of pro games vs regular games. It's completely different.

>>146158381
I sure as shit don't miss last-hitting. What a dinosaur waste of time.
>WOW HE CAN CLICK ON A NON-THREAT AT THE RIGHT TIME! SUCH A GOOD PLAYER
Fuck that, I'd rather focus on other shit and have the game demand on more important skills such as map awareness, teamwork and in-depth knowledge. Not clicking on an idle, non-threat, no damage, no life minion.

>look through guys recent matches
>hes 1-8 in the last 5 hours
>hes on my team right now
help

>>146158525
he's now 1-9

So I officialy gave up on ranked, its just not worth the grind. Went in a win streak straight to my promotion game, then went in a loss streak straight to my demotion game. In every game I lost there was simply no way of winning. First pick Novas/Gazlowes and people changing a role we needed in the last second, not to mention how horrid they were in the game.

Ill just meme in QM and Unranked from now on.

>>146148648
>>146148998

This desu, I only played W3 but I don't remember SHIT I probably just skipped the cutscenes.

I'm looking for something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UmtX1JQ_s or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIz4lgxlLHw

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>play brightwing
>split-push expecting to teleport to allies if they need help
>enemy team keeps stacking 3-4 people to my lane desperately trying to gank me
>fairy dust and walk away
>giggling like an idiot as their butcher desperately keeps rushing me and taking a faceful of tower fire before he can run away
>teammates keep trying to "save" me and rush in single-file to counter-gank and die, one by one
>they keep trying to stack in my lane instead of soaking the other lanes
>move to the other lanes they abandoned
>they follow me there
>personal XP contribution: 9300
>team XP contribution: 3500, 4000, 4500, 4000
>enemy team XP contribution: 9300, 8500, 7200, 8200, 6300

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Is this new?

>>146161638
Reminds me of a match as Sylvannas, but the other way around. My team kept stacking on my lane and we eventually lost because 4v5 the entire game, our Falstad kept pushing alone→ganked→enemy team coming after us→run away→ping team to run away→they dont listen→they die

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>>146162337
Actually, fuck that, are THESE new?

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>fucking newfags don't remember that Samuro took down a whole island using just 5 explosive barrels and a pig
Samuro is love, Samuro is life

>>146162741
I hope he won't have that stupid panda on his banner

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>>146162474

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Who's the biggest cuck in Wacraft's history?

>>146163150
Idk, what's your toon's name on WoW?

>it's a team is incapable of not getting picked off all the time and you lose without every truly fighting episode

diamon 1 skill boyzzzz
bless the squish so I get these retards in my games

>>146163150
Yesterday for the first time I played as Tyrande with an Illidan on my team, that shutdown from her gave me a good chuckle.

ded gem

ded thred

>>146163150
In magnitude of cuckiness, I believe Illidan wins hands down.

>tfw cant queue up right again because duoqueue of doom is going around

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I'M HERE TO SHIT UP THE DRAFT!

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>it's a lastpick so you have to sup episode

even more enraging because so fucking often the third or fourth pick could deny a crucial support like rhegar but they go for DEEPZ instead

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>>146164806
>>146166668
what about kael?
he fell in love with jaina, she kind of rejected him, and then he caught her kissing arthas secretly
then arthas killed his father and destroyed his homeland

>>146166858
If Jaina player were not such feeders....
She's a great pick for her mass CC that let's executioner heroes go off.
Jaina with range talents is an assist machine, but everyone I se play her goes deep for 'muh epic plays' and blows up.
She gets hovered in draft, I hover the alt+f4

>>146166972
but now he can go all ashnelamonare on his ass in the nexus

>>146166972
so how's the internet connection from the frozen throne?

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>>146108220
heh greetings

>>146106649
how dead is this fucking game? 2 minute queue for a fucking quick play?

I thought tracer was banned from hero league, why do I still see her in my games?

>>146168540
pshhh the cavalry's here kiddo

>>146168540
shes only op in qm

WHERE

IS

THE

GUL'DAN

ANNOUNCEMENT

>>146169281
teaser in 2 and a half hours as usual

>>146169081
>*Guns you down while running*
>*Blinks behind you*
>*Melee and glitched lv20 pulse bomb you*
>*Recalls back*
>Pshhh, the cavalary is here kid

whats the hero you wanna see next /hotsg/? for me its leoric the skeleton king from the diablo franchise

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how bad are the primetime queues in continental US?

here is SEA its usually 10mins+ for HL

>>146169905
SOCRETHAR, the best Warcraft hero that isn't confirmed yet. They can even give him a Fenix skin for the Starcraft fans

>>146169905
What would be his trait? Dying?
That is lame, if you are going to represent diablo, do something like the Necromancer

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I keep getting grouped with new players. UGH

>>146170381
Pfff, and what would you suggest for his trait? Autowin on Tomb of the Spider Queen?

If you're gonna do an OP character, how about a mage like Jaina but who uses fire.

>No Troll
>No great warrior (Varian, Saurfang, Garrosh, Hellscream etc)
>No Guldan

So many heroes are missing, it's like the game is in early development.

>>146170443
Good lord what the fuck. 9 players aren't player level 40. What are you, 500 MMR?

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>>146169523

>>146170792
you have under 50 games played or some shit am i right

>>146171141
meant to reply to >>146170443

>>146171141
meant to quote >>146170443

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>>146171250
>>146171234

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>tfw my dick gets hard every time I pick sylvanas

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>>146171980

>>146172112
>>146171980
>tfw getting better at her but too scared to play her in ranked because still not comfortable
What exactly to do with her? When to merc, when to do x y or z? Want to make sure I'm not fucking something up.

>>146167015
Jaina helps me get off and I'm not even an executioner.

>>146172372
You press Q and win

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Please give these fucking people a 10 minute cooldown

>>146172642
4 games is way more than 10 minutes

>>146114329
Thanks voice of reason.

Patch hit when? Gimme them Chromie buffs.

>diamon 3
Not bad. Expected worse from myself. But how does the placing work?
I played 9 out of 10 matches with friend and he got placed in gold 5.

>>146172838
Don't forget the KT """""""""""""Nerfs""""""""""""

>>146172743
What?

>>146172952
because it doesn't actually do anything. its just 10 hl games in which you cant see what league blizzard has already placed you in.

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>>146173094
Forgot about that shit. What are Blizzard smoking?

>>146171980
>>146172112
Didn't she have heels at one point, or am I just imaging (hoping) that that was the case?

>>146171980
Talking about Sylvanas, should I buy her or is she going to drop soon

>>146173543
who buys her when you can get her for free with the recruit a friend promotion? (google it)

>>146173543
>Recruit a friend bonus
>get Sylvanas for free at lvl 10
10000 GOLD

>>146173705
>>146173839
I don't have friends

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>>146173972
FEEL THE HATRED OF TEN THOUSAND GOLD

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>>146174291
I laughed at this harder than I should

>>146174291
Well is not like I don't have friends but they don't play this game and I don't want to start from 0, so is she worth?

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>when you write gg even though it wasn't really a gg

>>146174829
>when you blur out names making your nigh-useless shit-post actually useless

I love chromie
whenever I do R-W-Q I instinctively think of Ctrl+Alt+Del

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Am I going to lose or win this game?

>>146173543
save until guldan patch. anything greymane or older could be the discount(s).

>>146174698
just play valla if you dont have lots of gold to burn or dont want many characters. the 10k to 4k discounts of stuff you have really suck

>>146175147
And he didn't even blocked the eyes of the characters
If you are going to censor, do it right

>Chromie free week

Time to play some Anub'arak.

>>146175269
probably, but what server? i get the nice "play in australia from eastern US" games late at night

Friendly reminder if you're a soulless rank-whore to just switch your server selection to south america and enjoy stomping literaly retards.

>>146175496
Why is Anoob played so much lately? Apparently good win/rate according to hotdogs but every time I see him he seems like total trash that easily gets blown up. Arthas and Diablo seem underrated to me.

>>146175768
Yup. SA GM/Masters literally get paired against ACTUAL Bronzes nearly every match. Not even joking. But,
>taking rank seriously
Fuck that. Just play and don't be a cunt--you'll be put in high rank automatically.

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>>146176014
Only region where GM is legit is EU because we don*t have a retard server.

>tfw in fact we only have a single server

>>146176105
иди нaхyй пидp бля

>>146174291
make a smurf then, duh

>>146176203
>implying ruskies get higher than bronze

>>146175616
EU

surprise surprise, I lost, but not because of the moonspeak

got matched with a Muradin who dodged team fights

hella fucking epic blizzard, thanks for not fixing low MMR hell

>>146177179
>he thinks mmr hell exists

>>146177337
the very existence of boosting services already shows that MMR hell doesn't exist

>>146177337
>he thinks it doesn't
I lose just as many points from losing a fair game that I do from having
- a troll banner in draft
- troll picks in draft
- AFK teammate
- disconnected teammate
- teammates who ignore map objectives and only go for camps
- teammates who feed
etc and so on

>b-but only constant
fuck off blizzshill

>>146177492
There are 5 random players you play against, 4 you play with.

Random chance dictates that you will win more games from a troll, afk, disconnect or just someone who doesn't understand how to play.

That is of course assuming you are not any of those things.

>>146177492
you are more than welcome to continue thinking that MMR hell exists

you are also more than welcome to stay forever bronze and be a sour little bitch who claims that he deserves better when in fact you're just as shit as the teammates you complain about

>>146177648
>>146177678
Except I got unlucky during my placement matches in pre-season, so now I'm stuck in Gold, where there are more retards

It is therefore more difficult for me to gain rank than for my friends who are the same skill level as me but got lucky during pre-season placement and are now diamond or plat

They should have reset MMR for season 1

>>146177648
>>146177678
Pretty sure MMR hell for most people is the shear amount of games you have to play to get anywhere. Every time someone on your team throws on purpose or disconnects, it feels like shit and makes you think why you even bother trying when your wins are getting deleted by these people

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I'm mostly a WoW player but I just started to play HoTS.
And I've got to say, holy fuck are Tyrande's tits beautiful in this game.

>>146177959
Doesn't help you lose more points per loss than gain from wins.

>>146177882
You have to just grind out mass number of games then, same as any team game.

>>146178021
Tyrande is for dat ass. Hard to care about her tits.

>>146178021
>year later they're still not reverted and fixed

Patch is out.

>chromie free week
Finally, time to go blow people up from a screen away.
What talents are people using on her?

>>146178473
Bye bye always
You don't need anything else

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>>146178134

>>146178021
Succubus Kerrigan is the tits queen, shame she is so bad right now

>Be new player
>Not even level 20
>Constantly paired with lv40 and nothing but lv40
HELP
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG

>>146178698
You are playing a dead game that has no new players coming in

>>146178698
>he thinks level means anything

lel

>>146178658
>kerrigan
>bad
Is this 2015?

>>146178658
S-she just needs a decent comp and she wrecks face. Like Uther D-shielding her. Or maybe Medivh now? Protection and portals to help her out, Poly bomb to force them to scatter for easier Ravage pounces.

>>146178831
One would expect Lv40 players are more experienced and..wordswordswordswords?

>>146178839
>B-but she is good on infernal shrines with this specific teamcomp and against these specific enemies

when are bliserds fags going to do some reveals? friday?

>>146178953
Barely.

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>the only constant is you :^)
>keep playing and you will eventually rank up
I literally won 8 out of 10 season 1 placement matches, sometimes against platinum players, but it still placed me in Gold 1 because my pre-season MMR was fucked, and now I'm in a fucking demotion match AGAIN

MMR hell is real you fucking retards

I am as good as most of my friends who are plat or diamond, they just got lucky

I am being arbitrarily punished

>>146179535
Only constant I see is a retard censoring names.

>>146179374
Are you telling me a newbie that knows nothing about HotS but experienced in DotA/LoL can easily shit on an average Lv40

>>146179535
>only constant

So why do you have 4 deaths, Anon? You know you can be on an absolutely shit team and still not die for no reason.

>>146179535
>31k
>MMR hell is real you fucking retards
>4 deaths

>>146179610
Because Chen didn't protect me, because he was fucking garbage

Meanwhile, the other team was on point with some pro tier 4 man rotations

I should not lose as much MMR from that loss as I do from an evenly contested game

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>>146179535

>>146179609
Yes. I've seen it.