/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>145983479
Second for shitposting

>>145983479
"no"

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NTH FOR CAROLUS

reddit votes non reactionary
http://poal.me/cnjm4s
http://poal.me/cnjm4s
http://poal.me/cnjm4s
http://poal.me/cnjm4s

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>>145983479
Absolutely based

6th for immortal Stauning

Second reminder to report and ignore shitposting just in case you didn't see the first one.

>40 panzer divisions and 20k stong luftwaffe zooming around the map 24/7
UNLIMITED FUEL

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>>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.3.1
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.3
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggler Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

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>>145983479
How does he do it, lads?

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wtf I hate Johan now

>>145984061
it's the OP
OP's can instantly make a new post without timer delay

>>145984061
Bot

>>145984042
based cobra

also fix los

>>145983479
He was born to be a loner, yet he's the finest man on Earth.

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Reminder to pay for the games you play

>>145984061

It's OP.
Check the times of the post

>>145983461 OP makes thead
>>145983479 OP Posts this
>>>145983526 OP links to previous thread

It's literally done to trigger replies.

>>145983479
>>145983738
Third reminder to report and ignore shitposting just in case you didn't see the first or second one.

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reminder

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ul663g7rswsuylv/tangy_colormod.7z

>>145984620
21st for shitposting, because one time wasn't enough, as it seems

>>145984649

looks a bit better.
now link the base game
and don't like the steam page. I got memed once, I don't want to get memed again

pls ;_;

>>145984649
That Ireland is meme tier

>>145984649
Why did you choose aqua for France? It looks good otherwise.

>>145984753
http://store.steampowered.com/app/394360

>>145984753
http://store.steampowered.com/app/394360/

>>145984851

xD

>>145984916
>>145984928
Gall dang

>>145984753
Jesus Christ, if you want to attention whore so badly how about you use your own name?

>>145984851
>>145984868
yeah? well i'll have you know that reddit LOVED it

>>145983942
>REALISM

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>>145984916
>>145984928

Thanks anon, exactly what I wasREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI WILL FUCKING HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOU

>>145985020
>they want a rob trip.
Ok?

>playing a game as USA
>research new infantry equipment
>shows german infantry equipment

what le fug lads

Does America seriously not have unique IQ images?

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Alright, can we put the memes aside for a moment and all agree that, for what it set out to do, HoI4 is a success? It gave us a WWII grandstrat free from all the archaic bullshit of Darkest Hour, and also much easier to get into than HoI3. Can anyone here honestly say they enjoy wasting an hour to fix their OoB every time they start a game of HoI3? Not to mention that, rather than needing to tediously micromanage industry like in other HoI games, HoI4's industry is both streamlined as well as more intuitive than the previous games. Yeah, it's true that HoI4 leads to more "ahistorical" scenarios, but isn't that the point? Why even bother playing the game if the outcome is predetermined form the start? Moreover, from a pure gameplay perspective, giving the player more options, whether they be historical or ahistorical, is a total success. Sure, Mosley ruling Britain never could have happened in reality, but it's fun to have the ability to easily do so in video game form.

Overall, I feel that HoI4 is getting a lot of undeserved hate simply because it isn't a total copy of HoI3 with slightly better graphics. Of COURSE the game is different - HoI3 already exists, there would be no point to making the same game again! HoI4 may be different, but that's by design, not by some unforeseen flaw, and it should be celebrated for the changes it made, not hated on.

>>145985130
Well its a shit game, what did you expect?

>>145985098
Here you go faggot I'll spoonfeed you,

https://mega.nz/#!h9cS0ARY!3adurn_YKSbcPbVdSX9nH_hflwpCu1H-jDYbIQW2coE

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>>145985098
>Thanks anon,
My pleasure

>>145985098

tfw fucked up spoilers
Should I just stop lads?

>>145985248
fuck you meme mod

>>145985130
No that's actually the default allies equipment picture. The germans (and the axis as a whole) have kind of different looking ones.

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>>145985248
>Should I just stop
YES

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>>145985209

>S0ARY
>SCARY

Nope.
>>145985241
pic related

Anyone got a DL link to this mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=701720801

>>145985453
https://mega.nz/#!1kUTSS7Y!cMFKNpV_pjAp_SW6DJvWPruZ7_fSkSiLTzyl0O4-GWA

Try this

>>145985453
you're not a very funny shitposter

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>I don't cheat in gsg

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>>145985534
>>145984753
see >>145984315

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>>145985412

no

>>145985572
I'm not here to be funny. I'm here to satisfy my autism and then leave /gsg/ for a few weeks. I'm burnt out on vic2 / hoi3 / ck2 / eu4.

>>145985351
That's pretty fucking retarded tbqh.

>>145985702
Oy vey goy, how would they gain money if they released a finished game.

>>145985629

I refuse to buy a game that took a nosedive and disregarded everything that made hoi3 good.

>>145984620
Fourth reminder to report and ignore shitposting just in case you didn't see the first or second or third one.

>>145985809
Then don't play it

>>145985809
You posted your trip before but I furor what it was

>>145985809
Johan actually said that the HoI 3 supply system was amazing, I feel like they removed it not because johan wanted it but because the marketing team wanted it.

>>145985881
55th for shitposting again

>>145985809
How could it disregard something that doesn't exist?

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>>145985908

I probably won't. Still not going to stop be from asking.

>>145985958

>my trip

wew. How fucking new are you kid ?

>>145986045
>the marketing team has control over the product
Typical fucking kikes.

>>145986054
>

Alright, can we put the memes aside for a moment and all agree that, for what it set out to do, HoI4 is a success? It gave us a WWII grandstrat free from all the archaic bullshit of Darkest Hour, and also much easier to get into then HoI3. Can anyone here honestly say they enjoy wasting an hour to fix their OoB every time they start a game of HoI3? Not to mention that, rather than needing to tediously micromanage industry like in other HoI games, HoI4's industry is both streamlined as well as more intuitive than the previous games. Yeah, it's true that HoI4 leads to more "ahistorical" scenarios, but isn't that the point? Why even bother playing the game if the outcome is predetermined form the start? Moreover, from a pure gameplay perspective, giving the player more options, whether they be historical or ahistorical, is a total success. Sure, Mosley ruling Britain never could have happened in reality, but it's fun to have the ability to easily do so in video game form.

Overall, I feel that HoI4 is getting a lot of undeserved hate simply because it isn't a total copy of HoI3 with slightly better graphics. Of COURSE the game is different - HoI3 already exists, there would be no point to making the same game again! HoI4 may be different, but that's by design, not by some unforeseen flaw, and it should be celebrated for the changes it made, not hated on.

>>145986239
>>145986218

kek

>>145986067
What happened to 5?

What's the best country in Steel Mills 2?

>>145983479
>>145985881
Fifth reminder to report and ignore shitposting just in case you didn't see the first, second, third or fourth one.

i wanna learn to play hoi3 but i feel like i'm too stupid, i've had moderate success in ck2

what do

>>145986546
7 8 9

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>>145986556

>>145986620
Install HoI4

Sorry if this question has been asked 1000 times but does anyone know the ideal division template for HOI4?
like the 4inf 4art 1eng 1 hus design for victoria 2

>>145986912
>not using historical oobs
kys

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>>145986546
>>145986665

>tfw /gsg/ is on the same-mind set as you
<3

>>145986912
6 inf 3 art battalions, engineers,recon, field hospital, logistics and art/at as support battalions

kys all of you

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>tfw the statue of liberty won't be decapitated in your lifetime

>>145986912
Standard inf.
7 inf 2 art recon+eng+sup.art+logis+hospital
Armor division
4 armor 2 motorized inf. with same
support battallions

>>145987207
allah akbar my friend

>>145987207
>2000 fuhrer mana
fucking use it

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>>145987207
>no field marshalls
Fucking why?

>>145986579
Sixth reminder to report and ignore shitposting just in case you didn't see the first, second, third, fourth or fifth one.

>>145987207
>.png
fuck you

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>>145987732

>make a post saying how shitty HPM's new version is
>get a warning for it and my post is deleted "the quality of posts is extremely important goy :^)"
Has a single autist ever been more butthurt in the history of mankind?

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>>145987553
cause I don't need them

>>145987796

Don't do it again or I'll fucking ban you kid.

tch..

>>145987830
>four different armies on the same frontline
FIELD MARSHAL WHEN

>>145987830
>9 of his armies are the same color
Do you not know what a field marshal is, or how to change army colors?

>>145988186
>>145987910
I'm doing fine baka

>>145988385
>I'm doing fine
>took 4 fucking years to take America
:^)

>>145984042
its unHPM v1.5 now

>>145988385
gas yourself weebtrash

filtered

why can i only send 3 divisions or so to volunteer?

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>>145988484
m8...
I was a bit busy

also, they are not part of the allies since I killed them off quickly
they attacked me to puppet me while I was fighting the USSR

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>germany declares war on poland
>loot at french border

>>145986703

i don't have it, i've got 3 and it looks better to me

>>145988812
Good luck.

>>145988740
this guy is definetly cheating

>>145988731
it is explained in the tool tip

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>>145988763

>>145987205
If I follow your advice, will I die?

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>>145988763

>>145988997
Its kinda suprising that there is still no mlp portrait mod

>>145988934
just look at the last thread to see the progression

quick: rushed annexing netherlands with day 0 justify to get their rubber, justified on poland which got protected in the meantime, attacked poland, allies got called in, occupied poland, belgium, france, built up air fleet while killing off englishmen invading by sea, finally built up an army of paratroopers, landed in britain, since britain kept sending their armies to be mowed down in naval invasions, it was pretty easy to almost occupy their island but not fully, then fabricated left and right: czech, hungary, yugo, balts, bulgaria, greece, etc., fought them a bit, then fully occupied britain and forced the allies to sign a treaty, since I was not in a faction I got to take almost all of europe, then I fought some more against italy, the sandniggers, rest of europe, annexed, then USSR, then the US

>>145987553
Are field marshalls better than generals?
Generals bonuses look better.

>>145988997
>>145988385
>>145987553
fucking weebs need to go back to /a/ already

>>145989409
This, stupid weebs.

>>145989532
This

This site was created as a /pol/itically correct site for muh hugbox.

Anime has NEVER belonged here.

>>145989463
There's one, I saw it while looking through steam workshop mods a few days ago. Someone even called the mod developer autist and developer said they were living in democracy and he had the right to do that or something like that

>>145989123
It would be extremely painful

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Fantastic game Paradox.
>Peace accords have US ruling Kyoto as the "Free Japanese Republic" and the rest under China

>>145989463
There is though...it's called Bronies crusade or something.

>>145989761
no way that is after the peace conference, fucking prove it

>manage to fight the soviets without also fighting the allies
>in 1941 the french commune starts a civil war
>war ends in '43 with nearly a million dead
>France joins the Comintern
>USA declares war on Japan and axis
>USA joins Allies

The USA has forces all over northern Europe on my borders, but since the other Allies haven't joined the war yet, the USA is getting it's ass kicked in the pacific. Just a couple of months into the war and the USA already has a quarter million casualties to Japan's several thousand. But strangely, I'm still the leader in contribution because I've got one unit of tactical bombers in southern China bombing targets in the Philippines.

After I closed down the game, I looked at the score system, and somehow I'm in second, even after taking most of the Soviet state. Great Britain somehow has 15k score in airplane score. How the fuck did they manage that? They haven't fought a single battle.

>>145988983
dont see it. just tell me pls

How do I return Expeditionary Forces? The Hungarians, Poles, and Romanians gave me control of 200 extra units, but the war against the Soviets is now over. It's nice of them to provide me with garrison units for the large soviet state, but don't really need units with 50% equipment that's 5 years outdated.

>>145990040
it is based off either the total number of your divisions or the total number of your provinces

>>145988920

yeah thanks

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>>145989975
Also just realized that Ethiopia was released communist

>>145990719
That's not Ethiopia m'lad

>>145990789
>>145990719
yeah dude wtf dont you know your geography?

>>145989761
>South Africa
>Luxembourg
>China
>China
>China
>China
epic

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>>145990859
Sorry it was the Tokyo region.

>>145990789
No this is Ethiopia

>>145990789
>>145990859
*facepalm*

>>145991148
epic

>>145991093
That's a small France. Also they look a little dislocated

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Is it possible to change from which province soldier pop comes for existing regiments?

>>145991218
>>145991304
le sigh

>>145991332
Yes if you edit the starting oob

>>145991332
no, you need to get their guns, trash them and buy new ones for the new regiments.

>>145991332
You need fuhrer mana

>>145991332
What are you talking about? Just draw a line to your enemies capital and you'll be fine.

>>145991332
>blobbing into Ethiopia before you even westernized

What's the "one more turn" meme's equivalent in /gsg/?

>>145991959
Mana

>>145991959

one more month

>>145989517
Field marshals can command an unlimited number of troops. With many generals on a front, they are more likely to step on each others toes, and more likely to leave pockets untouched because even though they have 20 divisions surrounding 6, they each have 4 divisions surrounding those 6.

>>145991959
>I'll just build one more steel factory

>Historically the main drive of industrialization (goods wise, not socioeconomic or shit like that) was heavy industry. Coal, iron, steel, metals and foundries - that made the industrial revolution and gave small countries such as Belgium an advantage

Was this the most historically inaccurate thing HPM has said?

>>145992473
>Was this the most historically inaccurate thing HPM has said?
'Serfs weren't slaves'

>>145992473
not even close goy

>tfw steel meme died in your lifetime

>>145984364
>>145984753
>>145984934
>>145985098
>>145985248
>>145985453
>>145985667
>>145985809
>>145986067
>>145986215
>>145987037
>>145987907
>>145992097
>>145992695
Fuck off back to your steamgroup

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lmao i broke it

Is the definitive Vicky 2 3.03 or 3.04?

Is the HPM polished enough (say as polished as NNM) for the AI to not act fuckin retarded like the do in PDM? From what I can see there's a lot of economic changes.

>>145993067
stop posting .pngs, theres no reason this screenshot should be 2 megabytes.

>>145993119
how do you feel about iron alloys

>>145993187
Stop being poor, there's no reason for you to do so.

>>145993067
why the fuck are they messing around with Bhutan, Nepal and Latin America so much

>>145993119
3.03. 3.04 breaks the game

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>>145993187
>he lives in a third world country
LMAO
M
A
O

>>145993312
I have to handle them while I'm at war, otherwise casus belli would take me 125 days

>>145993436
how

When was the last time PDM was updated?

>>145993119
The economic change was more of a rebalance, it's not even close to what PDM does

It's pretty polished IMO the best mod out there

Use 3.04

>>145991897
doing nothing is kinda boring

>>145993235
what meme am I missing here, I'm new to /gsg/ and HPM

>>145993436
I noticed a lot of the changes seemed out of place or bad (Geneva Convention and Polar Bears?) but some of the changes seem really good (Nations care about out-of-continent crises). What's broken exactly?

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>>145993464
>Romania

>>145992950

>all were me besides >>145992695

Maybe I should stop.
Maybe I should.

>>145993485
Considering how often bugged crisises happen and most of the modding commands in the console doesn't work anymore, its pretty safe to say that the Wiz memepatch fucked up something in the code

>>145993801
>not living in the most BASED country on earth
*cringes*

>>145978367

I still don't know what bureaucrats or administrative efficency does. except fight crime.

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>>145993187
>>145993464
>actual classism in my /gsg/

>>145993816
>tfw that was me
but yeah shut the fuck up already

Ideas for Victoria 3

-Fund rebels
-Enforce white peace between two countries
- historical accuracy

>>145993963
Go kill a cop you monkey subhuman trash.

>>145993963
>.jpg

>>145994157
>historical accuracy
never happening

hope you like having broken flags and unrealistic blobbing

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>>145994157
Ideas for Victoria 3

-HOY4 engine
-Mana
-Liquor
-Mana
-EU4 style tech
-Mana

>>145994365
This will unironically happen

>>145994365
>.png
I can't even load this image padre

When I start HPM, it loads in Windowed Mode and I cannot fix. What do

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Hey guys check out this Meme I just made!

>>145994560
Delete your hpm folder in documents\paradox\victoria 2\ hpm
that will reset the settings

How easy is it to switch from 3.04 for HPM back to 3.03 for NNM? I wanna make sure I like HPM before I get me and all my buddies playing it

Because the last poll was so heavily skewed in favor of a historical character, it doesn't need to go on any further. I'm calling it early so that I can post the final poll now.

I've created a smaller imgur album with just the images and notes for the Levant & Euphrates basin, to help everyone with the poll:

https://imgur.com/a/jdX64
https://imgur.com/a/jdX64

As before, this poll allows multiple choices and will continue to run for about a day. After that we'll have a short run-off if necessary (there are fewer options this time, so it might not be), and the final starting location and character will finally be set.

The poll:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10528922
http://www.strawpoll.me/10528922

>>145994560
go to the hpm folder in victoria 2/mods, go to common, click on production_types.txt, and search for and delete steel_factory
thus should solve your problem

>>145994765
There is a 3.03 version for HPM

>>145994598
*cringes*

>>145994598


*farts in your bum*

>>145994598
Lad...

>>145994939
t. kasslcrunchslayer

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>>145994598
>a good admiral can overcome numerical superiority

>>145994598
NICE!

mind if I repost this on /r/4chan?

>>145994157
>>145994365

>Victoria 3

It wont happen, and even if it does it will be so infuriatingly bad as to make Draw Line Simulator 1939 seem a work of absolute genius.

>>145995106
Literally how

>>145994876
it's fairly outdated though; last update was 3 months ago as opposed to the last update being yesterday with the 3.04 version.

>>145995106
>>145995180
the japs were trying to invade through a strait from the ocean

stupid japs

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>>145995106

>a good admiral can overcome numerical superiority

>>145987207
>much of it reportedly from armed irregulars
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED

>>145995180
Looks like he baited them into a tidal strait and they bashed themselves on the rocks when the tides switched.

So, >>145969667 here
I still have no idea what's going on
No one is leaving my country
90% are getting all of their life needs
Yet, my pop growth is only 250, about 20% of what my provinces add up to, which is 1300
Does anyone know why I'm not growing?

>>145995245
So just tell him to update it, its like 5 minutes to do.

So, how is HoI4?

>>145995106
>.png
kys kys kys

>>145995535
As hard as Bill Clinton's dick when he sees his wife naked.

>>145995646
>.png
get out of /gsg/

only .jpgs allowed in my of /gsg/ fuck you off

>>145993801
>>145994365
>>145994598
>>145995106
>>145995646
Stop using .pngs you fucking retards.

Most /gsg/ers live in Brasil and we don't have internet enough to look at .pngs

>>145994828
stop spamming faggot

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>>145995424
Is the guy that posts here as HPM the modder?

>>145993816
pls update 3.03 HPM bb

>>145995994
stop quoting so many people, all that html makes the page very slow to load.

>>145995994
>Most /gsg/ers live in Brasil
nice assumption alex

>>145996061
>Is the guy that posts here as HPM the modder?
yeah

he's THE ech pee emu

>>145995416
paradox math is not normal math

>>145996061
Based reddit

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avert your eyes

>>145996061
That isn't him, it's just a shitposter. Look in his pastebin for his trip

http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>If you need to check the source of the mod, my only trip will be HPM !!gEXp1TuUhJX

He also has a compatibility patch that makes the latest versions of HPM compatible with the old patch

>>145996168
We did a poll a couple weeks ago and 70% of /gsg/ers live in Brasil.

It is greatest country after all of course greatest thread would use them.

>>145996347
>/gsg/
>greatest thread
>even ironically

>most of the HPM changelog is about changing province RGOs to make sure his epic economy changes will work
Reddit will defend this

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>>145996267

>>145994724

dun did it now reinstall thnx lad

>>145996267
>japanese niger

>>145996573
HPM's new update is utterly based

Best mod ever

>>145996267
Jap Nig

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>>145996347
Alright goys, lets continue this map

>>145996267
>Ottoman "Libya"

>>145996790
I wonder if the guy marked in northern poland is actually me, I've been here for far too long.

>>145996267
>bohemian africa

>>145996790
One in Buenos Aires for AFP.

>>145996573
It's not like you even play the mod, you just want to shitpost about him

>>145996267
>bohemian africa
>japanese niger
>ethiopia, mali, ghana, senegal
>sokoto is somehow still going strong

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Grandy
Shitposting
General

>>145996950
Put your fucking trip back on.

>>145996790
why are there so many slavs

Could someone post the download link to the latest version of MEIOU+Taxes?

Thank you!

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>>145996790

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>>145996790

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GUYS WTF I JUST LOOKED AT A MODERN DAY MAP OF EUROPE AND POLAND EXISTS WTF IS GOING ON?

>>145997070
No memes please

>>145997113
>>145997070

>>145997060
zoy.org has a good copy of it

>>145997070
Hello Kim
Is this how you live out your fantasies of ruling the world?

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>>145997198

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>>145997113

>tfw got dragged into the war as USA in 1939
muh economy

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>>145997192
fixed

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>>145997239
Yes, thank you for asking.

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>>145997447
here

>>145997113
hello fellow minnesotan

>>145997573
>Authoritarian Communism
Seems redundant.

>>145997045
The hardworking white men were at work when the map was made. Thats why its full of lazy, uneducated monkeys and slavs.

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>>145996790

>>145997606
>>145997864
>jpg

/gsg/ - Grandi Sycophants Generalis

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>>145958602

>>145997606
Is that supposed to be Brainerd?

So I'm playing the meme mod "Apocalypse 1836 HPM" and zombies aren't spawning. What do.

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>>145995416
Lads, pls, this isn't an attempt at (You)s, but I need to be called stupid. retarded. T. rob, any insult you want.

I'm sorry for wasting HPM, Megacampaign, and any other anon's time. I found out why my Pops weren't growing.

I failed to realize that I was at 10 consciousness when bitching about no pop growth. I removed it to 0, and pop growth resumed as normal.

I am utterly retarded, and would like some others to confirm I am indeed stupid.

This has to be it, or I REALLY am stupid

>>145998191
no

>>145998342
Bermidji?

>>145998296
They probably spawned in the middle of nowhere, give it time

>>145998526
Fergus Falls

>>145998316
They were probably immigrating, you never posted that immigration map

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Is HPM around? I wanted to ask him about the new economy changes

Why does every single pop, no matter what, need steel as a everyday need minimum? I removed it as an everyday need for some lower class pops and intellectuals to test the economy, but it's odd that it's so widespread.

I'm sure there's a good reason for it, but hell if I know

>>145997113
how the fuck do you know?

>>145996790
One in São Paulo pls

>>145998852
because they require raw steel beams for their tools

>>145998852
HPM is an idiot who knows next to nothing about the victorian era and uses wikipedia articles and their sources as the basis of his changes.

He's a stupid attention whore and his mod gets shittier every update.

>>145998852
t. rob

>>145997864
MODS CAN SEE IP ADDRESSES?

>>145998956
w-what

>>145999072
Didn't farmers use iron tools in the V2 time period?

Hell most farmer tools were made of iron in the 50's.

>>145999118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww

hoi4's pretty fun honestly

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>>145998692
I have only said no one was leaving in nearly every post, but here anon

>>145999149
Yes

Just broke into your checking account currently withdrawing your total account balance and closing your account.

>>145999310
t. podcat

>>145999265
HPM doesn't give a shit about that, he thought steel was a mass industrialized enterprise in the early 1800s and that farmers in the 1830s used steel tools.
Not to mention unciv farmers using steel tools. I'll leave it up to you to realize how absolutely retarded that is.

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>>145998852
It's there to represent housing needs (frames, gates, locks, beams) as well as the sundries that aren't included in the furniture category (nails, tools, razors, axes, shovels, hammers, pans, pots, heaters, ovens).

>>145997864
Why do so many Monkeys browse /gsg/?
does HPM attract them?

>>145999528
Yes

steel being the big meme industry makes more sense then liquor tbqh

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So I just finished the war to puppet Egypt and this fucking thing popped up out of nowhere. What do?

>>145999413
>he doesn't have steel as a part of a balanced breakfast
also a cup of cement every morning make your bone strong

http://poal.me/9ntfc2
http://poal.me/9ntfc2
http://poal.me/9ntfc2

serious poll

the future of /gsg/ depends :^)

>>145996139
kek

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hot lonely socialists singles are in YOUR area! click here!!

>>145999597
>people weren't alcoholics on the Victorian era
>steel was a common building material in the Victorian era
wew

>>145998852
Is steel the new liquor?

>>145999524
Couldn't you make the staple good iron or even wood, and make steel everyday or even luxury?
Wooden dining utensils were relatively common, especially for the poor.

>>145999115
Lad I wouldn't shit on him that much, steel was pretty widespread, but not to the extent that it is in the current version

The major problem is steel only really took off after the Bessemer Process, but since there's no way to have a starting good become a need for a pop later in time you can only half-ass it.
The only way to really show the rise of steel would be to have it unlock in the 1850s, but that's retarded since that means no steel before then.
Having a second steel resource would work, but that's pretty convoluted

>>145999524
Thanks lad, you may want to consider iron for everyday needs of the lower class though, I doubt many had a lot of access to steel in the 1840s

>>145999524
All of those things were made of iron you fucking retard.

The only buildings that used steel were factories, government buildings, and high rises (not until the 20th century).

Kill.yourself

>>145999620
nice virus

>>145999524
>>145998316
>>145999368
Can you confirm? Would high consciousnesses reduce pop growth?

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http://poal.me/i9e1ev
http://poal.me/i9e1ev
http://poal.me/i9e1ev
http://poal.me/i9e1ev

Let's settle this once and for all

>>145999174
H-how do you know where I live?

>>145999732
It's even more profitable, in demand, and under supplied than liquor could ever hope to be.

>>145999605
>>145999605
pls lads, will I still inherit all of Egypt? I haven't played much HPM

>>145999265
>>145999740

Yes, they do. However, steel mills aren't only there to represent steel. The Iron RGO also doesn't represent strictly Iron - it also represents copper, much as precious metals also represents diamonds and silver a lot of times. Steel mills are foundries, blast furnaces and the factories that manufactured iron, iron ore and bars, into tools and implements. As explained in >>145999524, there wasn't a difference between a steel mill and factories that did these iron tools.

>>145999738
Poor pops do require wood. Steel is required as everyday in small quantities and as luxury in bigger quantities.

>>145999893
We've been watching you for a while, Max

>>145999605
build steel factories

>>146000028
H-how do you know my name?

>>145999789
No, it doesn't. It shouldn't at least.

>>146000120
Let's just say you won't be waking up again.

>>145999993
In that case, since the RGO isn't strictly steel, why don't you name it something else to show that, such as processed metal or something?

>>145999893
do you live in the NW suburbs?

>>146000123
HPM tell me what to do >>145999605

>grandi sycophants would've reported and not ignored liquorposting before
>now they're full blown liquormemers because Alex suddenly hates liquor
pottery

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>>145996790
>divided Germany
Nice up to date ma you have there

See this is why HOI4 is better then Vic 2

Steel isn't OP in HOI4

There's also no liquor

>>146000354
Whoops, I read iron as steel, but still, you may want to rename one of those resources if you are changing what they are

>>146000263
>tfw too cowardly to fulfill this dream

>>145996790
Toronto reporting for duty

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Who's a good guy to watch play Vicky II? I know that entertainment is a big part of the choice, but I also don't want to watch someone who actively misrepresents that game -- and I've seen the Quill memes.

>>146000515
salaam and happy ramadan

may the caliphate of canada blot out the sun brother

>>146000120
Don't worry, Max
It won't be long before we contact you
Just remember
Follow the white rabbit

>>146000569
Why would you watch someone else play video games

>>145985170
It's just incredibly easy to win as Germany now.

I beat the allies by late 1938, England completely invaded

>>146000569
Marcoantonio is the only option anon.

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>>146000123

>>145999368
Here, Feb 18 I have no militancy, .23 consciousness, and 2k in growth

Went to year start, no cheats, Feb 18, 2 militancy, nearly 10 consciousness, and I am 1.5k lower than the first time

I think it does HPM I doubt it's the 2 militancy.

>>146000682
Inshallah

>>146000714
A combination of temporarily shit PC, mediocre internet, lack of money, and the fact that it's how I generally learn to play grand strategies. I want to see if I'd want to play it.

>>145999792
First for Groß Germaniums

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Fascist-Reactionary coalition reigns supreme

>>146000354
I thought about that a few times. Renaming iron to "metals" would suit it well enough, shit I could even rename Steel Mills to Foundries and that would still be right (though again, these iron implements were made in steel mills) but there isn't a good and generic enough name that covers everything these factories did.

Steel mills in the Victorian era frequently did everything, from pans and nails to wrought iron and rolling steel.


Anyway if I ever thought of a good enough generic name to replace "steel", I would probably change it. I'm open to suggestions too.

>>146000393
Conquer them or just sphere them, you will annex them in the scramble.
The Mahdist revolt was a success it seems.

>>146000569
Just play Vicky 2 yourself, slut

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>>146000849
>paying for a single player game
goy...

I have some jews for you.

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>>146000569
shen is based

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>>146001016
>so many dirty gommies and socialists

>>146001108
>>146000849
I would if I could, fucknugget.
>>146001147
There's more than money to it.

>>146001245
>I choose communist for the meme value
Really makes you think

>>146001157
it's the reddit invasion brought about by traitorous cross-posters

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>>145997864

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>>146001147
>because blood isn't kosher

>>146001310
M8 I know I said there's more than money but that doesn't make me communist.

>>146001092
Just change it to "metals" and "foundaries" then

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So do I just change to state capitalism and build factories everywhere now?

Are there any downsides to changing your ruling party to one that the people don't really care for much as absolute monarchy?

>>146001092
I dunno, "processed metal" sounds decent to me, but I can't think of a good name.

The main problem is that the steel RGO's name and picture implies that it's literally raw steel, but I wouldn't know how to fix that

Also, I'm feeling autistic right now, mind if I make that Kunduz Russia decision?

>>146001342
Half of Reddit are /pol/-tier memers. Or worse; they're Sargonkiddies.

>>146001618
>Are there any downsides to changing your ruling party to one that the people don't really care for much as absolute monarchy?
infinite jacob bean rebels but you're russia so they'll be trying to gommify you anyway

>>146001618
>11% literacy
>building factories
huehuehuehuehue

>>146001353
>tfw your place of residence isn't even on the map

>>146001781
Reminder that Grandi is an enemy of the people

>>146001618
You get increased militancy for changing parties but state capitalism best capitalism so do it anyways.

>>146001739
Sargon is based

>>146001945
>>145996264