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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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Party time
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>>145850607
Can I make new pastebins for the op?
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>>145850708
ok
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>>145850761
thanks anon!
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>>145850674
Were you fuccbois in the swamp with pickaxes?
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>>145850607
>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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>>145850894
no but if your were talking about the pickaxes in ponitiffs then that would of been funny
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Just had a legitimately difficult duel with a guy who clearly knew how to play, and lost in a close and long match. There is still hope...
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Are the parry frames of the golden falcon shield the same as the target shield? I want a shield with good party effectiveness but not paper thin like the target shield
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>>145851278
Use Lelwyn shield, it's better than Golden Falcon in every way except weight
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>>145851278
here's the different parries
thrusting swords
katanas
parrying dagger
curved swords
parrying shields (buckler, target shield, small leather shield)
small shields
medium shields
fist weapons
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>>145851265
Decent players do exist, just far and few inbetween.
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>>145850729
what is this
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Dark souls is nothing like bloodborne. You guys lied to me and made me waste money.
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>>145851512
It's a wordcloud of the previous thread
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>>145851512
bigger words are more commonly used
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Why does the Black Knight Sword R2 suck so fucking much? It's the only part of the weapon I objectively hate
>3 seconds windup
>4 seconds endlag
>Does less damage than a jump attack
Accidentally doing an R2 when I tried to do a jump attack/even using it at all has killed me a disproportionately larger amount of times than it ever has saving me
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Goddamnit, 24/30 proof of concords...

Anyone got some spare or hacked em in? I don't want to directly cheat but a drop would be nice SL120
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>>145851559
>he fell for the bb meme
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>Kill soul of cinder w/ yuria
>She survives
>Get black armor and darkdrift, but now I don't have access to Purging Stones
Help, my candy supply can only last so long!
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>>145851639
can't drop em

>SL120
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>>145850729
>literally dlc another castle

Does this thing's uncle work at from?
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>>145851559
>Dark souls is nothing like bloodborne.

That's the point
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>>145851568
are you talking the 1H or 2H R2, because the 1H is amazing and 2H has its uses
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>>145851559
Well at least you have 2 games
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>>145851675
Fug :DD

Also is this not the meta or, oh right passwords? Haven't bothered to use them yet
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>>145851495
I take it back, I just lost to a guy who ONLY Swordspear running attacked that I'd beaten twice already, but came back lagging
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>>145851547
>Ganking: The Event
Garbage. Even shittier that you're gonna rely on an autosummon covenant or random invasions to involve random people who don't want to be part of your shit event. Not that they would notice the difference with your trash and a regular gank squad
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>>145851646
Bloodbrone is the better game. Dark souls has too mechanics going on. Who thought it would be a good idea to turn your character into a zombie the more you die? Also limiting respawns? What is this.
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>>145850729
>poison build summon attacks spam hand
so the only way to make poison builds work is to summon a ganksquad and use dark hand?
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>>145851794
Have a spear of equal length ready to softswap/hardswap at all times. LKLSpear is basically the Silver Knight Spear of DaS3 length and damage wise.
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>>145851329
Its more about the frames for me
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>>145851705
2H

Yeah it does sometimes save me, but in comparison to how many times:
>In the middle of boss fight
>Winning
>Try to do jump attack
>Stop dead in my tracks, unable to move for a whole 3 seconds
>Enemy has jumped out of the way
>Finally unleash upward swipe, stay in the pose for 2 seconds, and then spend another 2 seconds twirling the blade back to position
>Standing **entirely** still during all of this
>Enemy takes it upon themselves to do their one attack that is severely delayed, seemingly knowing I can't do anything do stop it
>Die
Has happened it's like it never even does
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>>145851893
frames are all the same
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>>145851751
it is the meta, he just has memetism
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>>145851887
I beat him twice with timed hyperarmor but it was too tricky with minor lag and him running laps and circles
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>>145851817
So DS2 is worse than BB? old news.
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>>145851909
>Finally unleash upward swipe, stay in the pose for 2 seconds, and then spend another 2 seconds twirling the blade back to position
You do realise you can cancel the twirly BK weapon recovery animations by rolling?
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HOW DO I MAKE CUTE GIRLS
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>>145850729
>probably hollow pontiff thanks players

Guys what if.
>pontiff was hollowed/driven insane by the profane flame
>he was a gud boy who dindu nuffin but was corrupted against his will
>part of his old self still remains but is powerless to do anything
>killing him ends his suffering and in his last moments he is grateful towards us

Deepest lore, vaati pls no steel
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>>145851909
you know you can sprint into a jump attack right
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>>145852032
look some up on youtube or try using the list here >>145850607
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>greataxes don't have greatsword's 2hr2-like horizontal sweeps
why
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top tier ultra greatswords? or all shit and unwinnable against good players
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>>145852148
AGS
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>>145852006
I spam the roll button like a seizing monkey when it happens and it does nothing to help

What do you think I do, put down the controller in defeat whenever I accidentally R2?
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>>145852175
Are you talking about DS1 or something
Cause you can definitely roll cancel them in DS3.
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>>145852148
Zweihander is good if you know how to use it
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>>145852249
DS1
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>35 vig
>Oceiros killed me in one hit
Thanks for nothing, Prisoner's chain
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>>145852269
Oh well tough luck then. They're pretty shit in DS1, yeah.
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>>145852148
UGS is by far the strongest weapon class in the game if you can stomach playing like a passive defensive bitch

can be very good offensive too but it relies entirely on trading with armor frames

pretty much all of them are usable, but AGS, Zwei, LKGS, and Profaned are all top
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>>145852346
>playing like a passive defensive bitch

teach me how, i'm sick of playing aggressive
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>>145851639
1. get fling's trainer
2. press Num 7
3. ???
4. profit
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>>145852416
continuously walk backwards while 2 handing your UGS, every time your opponent starts an attack press R1, if you hyper armor through their attack and get the hit confirm, then press R1 again. now roll away and repeat until your opponent no longer has health points

you are now an expert at heavy weapon Dark Souls 3 pvp, aren't you glad hyper armor exists? what a great and totally not shit mechanic
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>>145851797
good joke :)
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>>145852717
You sound salty.
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>>145852754
The joke is the event has no effort put into it.
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>>145851948
Didn't some youtube guy prove the target shield and parrying dagger had more?
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>>145852801
nah, it gets me tons of wins with little effort. it's awesome
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>>145852717
thanks friendo
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>>145852852
I can't wait for it to be deader than the Gladiator Event.
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i never did sl1 no parry
this is fucking hard
i need some advice if i want to do it again

i could only punish 3 attacks in phase 2: charge, halbert upward swipe into elbow slam (if i can even dodge it) and 3 hit combo
every time after i hit him i get far away
how do i get good?
is there anything else to punish?
how to anticipate the kick?
i used Barbed Sword without Rouge for phase 1 so i can stagger him and make bleed proc as he's staggered so that he goes into phase 2 with lowest possible health
after that i switch to ASS - it requires to switch one ring though
is this a good strat?
would just ASS with Hornet be better?

someone said that +10 bleed with Bloodring is not a challenge even at sl1 and i've been thinking about it and you're right, but i'm just too shit to change anything at this point
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>>145853096
>>145852852
>>145851797
I can't believe how angry you are, are you the guy that suggested heavyweight or something?
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>>145853260
>are you the guy

It's even funnier that you think there's only one person who doesn't like the event.
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>>145853260
No I'm not the heavyweight guy or even this >>145853380 guy but if you can't see how zero effort and thoughtless this "Protect the Pope" event is with just this post >>145851797
then I really don't know how else to explain it to you in simpler terms.
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What armor is dark souls 3 guy wearing and how do I do the thumbs up emote
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>>145853663
spoiler
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>>145853663
firelink set
u cant
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>>145853581
if you don't understand the difference between this and an actual gank squad you should go see a doctor because you have a pretty serious mental condition
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>>145853663
Firelink set

You can't. Maybe for DLC, though it's not likely.
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>>145853948
>DLC
>:joy: emoji added
A man can dream
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>>145850729
ds2 fun game
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>>145853935
Go ahead and tell me the difference then.
It's the host and two phantoms waiting for a lone invader that may or may not even be a /dsg/ player trying to participate in the event which is why it's retarded to begin with that you won't be able distinguish /dsg/ from regulars.
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>>145854219
it's not 4v1, instead it's 2v1, 2v2 1v2 or 1v1
nobody in the "gank" is using estus
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can someone help me on oceiros?
dsg is the password
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>>145854340
bootin up my fuccboi3000
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>>145854219
>>145854219
looking at the rules the host can't attack and is fat rolling so this makes the task for the invader so much easier.

>lone invader

dried finger means there can be 2 invaders. An invader can easily dispatch an un-armed host even with 2 phantoms.

Is any kind of group PvP a gank to you?
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>>145854381
leave your sign near hawkwood
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>>145854340
>>145854494
what platform friend
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>>145854494
ok, i'll hop on my super famicom right now
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>>145854494
sign down
gameboy colour, right?
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Tryin to get some jolly co-op going in Das2 PS4. Currently sitting with 400k SM in Iron Keep, getting no summons. Am I too high? Or am I overestimating the skill of other potential hosts, and I should actually be higher?
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>>145854526
ah shit
PC
i fucked up
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>>145852032
You give them strong eyes
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The world is very apocalyptic today
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>>145854548
No one knows. SM just fucked everything beyond salvation. The Agape ring just further complicates shit. SM was a mistake.
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Thanks Jojo you're the best.
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>get summoned for champ
>host is in silver knight armour
>with grass crest shield
>and darksword
>and his name has more than one x in it
>ohboy
>we go in...
>and the host pulls out a fucking crossbow the moment I aggro the champ
>and stays back plinking at him, missing every shot
>try to lead the boss to him so he'll actually contribute a bit
>nope, he just legs it
>whatever, I can kill two-man Gundyr solo
>champ is at a sliver of health
>hear a familiar sound
>sent home by master of world
I hope your fingers rot off from all the cheeto dust, host.
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>>145851547
Better version
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>>145855232
add the location for signs mroe specifically, it's at the top of the stairs to the left of duel shit
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>>145855178
did you parry him?
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did we decide what to do when everything sucks and we want to die?
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>>145855430
live yourself faggot
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NG+1 PC crystal sage anybody down?
pass dsg Crusifixion woods bonfire
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>>145855498
I'd love to help because Crystal sage is a super nigger, but I'm on PS4
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>>145855381
Nah, I'm shit at parries. Why?
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Whats good weapon to pair with the greatshield of glory?
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>>145855713
Estoc
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>Black Knight weapons require 18 dex
FUG DIS
Respec or go to SL 122 and use hunter ring?
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>>145855713
another greatshield of glory
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>>145855332
anything else
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>>145855498
>Just started up Civ 5
Gimme a minute and i'll be there pal
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>>145855607
i've asked earlier in the thread but nobody seems to know
how do you fight him without parries?
what's safe to punish?

i did it but it was 15 minutes of pussyfooting because i could only figure out how to punish 3 combos and if that's the correct way, than fuck it, i'm parrying him to death in all my next playthroughs
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>>145855738
Post Build
18 Dex is actually pretty doable on a STR build though
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>>145855798
You git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbwox_PEO48
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>>145855765
I mean even more up to the left stairs

at the area with the corpse balcony you can drop down from if you go the long way around

actually it's not really necessary seeing as passwords exist but oh well
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>>145855738
go to 125 (the meta) AND respec so you can optimize
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>Turn graphics up
>sitting at a bonfire now does this weird distortion effect instead of just clouding up the whole screen
huh.
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>tfw still being hyped up while fighting dragonslayer armour even after doing like 20 playthroughs
this is how you do a godly boss holy shit
that music, those animations, that EVERYTHING
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Is Immolation Tinder viable for a Sorcerer? How does it perform as a catalyst?
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>>145855738
Wut? At 50 Vig, 40 End, 50 Str, and 18 Dex you are only level 114.
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>>145855981
i forget he's a boss every time i do a playthrough
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>>145855851
r8 my ugly STR/FTH build
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>>145851639
just farm them you pussy
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>>145856083
Uh i think you forgot something pal
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>>145856083
FUCK I FORGOT THE PIC
>>145856118
GEE REALLY THANKS FOR POINTING IT OUT
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>>145855901
Did that added pass
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>>145856165
raise the level no ones making a char for this
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>>145850729
No gank?
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>>145856226
but that's the level aldrich faithfuls are most likely at
I don't know I don't make the rules, what do you think it should be at?
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Mace or morning star for 40 str?
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>>145856226
>raise the level no ones making a char for this
This event is one where the SL matters the most

if you go at reddit's meme SL120 meta there'll be no faithful
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>>145855981
I fucking love dragonslayer armor and I don't even know why. He's not particularly complex or difficult. He's just a suit of armor so no cool lorepoints either. Still somehow manages to make me have fun every time and is probably my favorite B tier boss.
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>>145856160
I think you might be overextending with that build if you want 18 Dex.
>50 STR
Fume UGS?
>30 Att
You could probably get away with 24, saves 6 points m80; could put those into Dex for acces to one of the better STR/Faith weapons; the LKGS
>Sacred Oath & Deep Protection
You only really need one of these m8, personally i'd go for DP in that case; Oath can be done with a Sunlight SS wich saves 2 fucking slots
>saints talisman
either get rid of both talismans and get a Canvas or change out Saints for a Chime, Saints WA is so shit you'd be better of using a Chime with a higher Spell Buff
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>>145856308
Mace does moe damage
Morning star can bleed
check there movesets see which one you like
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>>145856453
>Mace does moe damage
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Literally fell through the lift at farrons keep because I was rolling while on it

Fuck your shitty ass coding From
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>>145856387
>>145856303
80 is the meme meta here
and they can be invade by af from 44-88
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Thanks for the crystal saging like 10 minutes ago buddy.
Gonna do Deacons next if anybody's interested.
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>>145856394
>He's just a suit of armor so no cool lorepoints either.

He's just a suit of armor you've fought three times so far. Give him some respect.
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>>145850729
>dodge waifu, cheat instead
what did he mean by this?
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>>145856570
My sign is already down at the fog gate I can wait
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>>145850729
>best dark guy
HOL UP
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>>145850729
>always trying summoned without ar king looking
Is the AR King watching us?
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>going back from ds3 to ds1 and finding greataxe
the fuck they thought while making that thing
how can you even use it outside of bs fishing
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Please help wizards, i accidentally made this +12 bullshit while trying to itemswap a ember into a hollow gem. Now i cant get rid of it and i'm afraid to go back online. The weapon selected wont recognize it and i'm freaking out.
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>>145857214
what did he mean by this
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>>145857214

What's the bird a reference to?
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Thanks with deacons sunbro was a fun run.
I'm going to do dancer next reply if anybody wants to do it with me (once again pc)
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>>145857236
it doesn't matter if you get rid of it before going online, your save is already flagged, get wrecked cheater scum
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RTSR is such garbage
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>>145857236
you must use it to kill every enemy in the game at least 6 times including bosses, then choose the ending where you bully firekeeper

a cutscene will play where cgi miyazaki comes down riding a cloud and he'll give you the Profaned Pendant, the Beacon of Londor, and the World Anchor which will unlock all 3 future dlcs right away

source
i'm yui tanimura and i snuck all this shit in behind miyacocki's dumb ass lmao
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>>145857292
Velka was associated with Crows for some reason.
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>You will never even be close to this good in pvp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ErQRk1wJEM
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>>145857236
go to highlighted item
change the bottom to to the ones of a normal item
you can drop/discard
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>>145857292
Pokemon
Honchkrow (fedora bird) and Murkrow (lil bird)
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>>145857304
Sign is down before her fog door
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What's a good weapon for a pyro, besides raw ass?
Been thinking warpick or bandit knife.
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>>145857571
>Peeve
>good
Pick one and only one.
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>>145857634
Bestoc

Sexy Straight Sword
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>replay DS1 from scratch
>Getting constant invades everywhere

Man i luv this game, DS3 lacked something.
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>>145857723
DaS1 had better art direction in my opinion.
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>>145857641
I see you don't know what real skill looks like
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>>145857723
>DS3 lacked something.
New content, it's a literal ctrl+c/ctrl+v job
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>>145857778

Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a Bloodborne or a Dark Souls 3 webm.
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>>145857845
Isn't it great?
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>>145857845
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>>145857782
Maybe, but I know it doesn't involve spamming parries, dying over 75% of the time, then only uploading videos that contain only the 25% or less of times you actually won to youtube so that gullible morons think you are some kind of parry god.
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>>145857845
Fresh from the Grand Archives
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>>145857912
>>145857778
How do I get my game to look like this?
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>>145857610
thanks brah was a nice one
think im gonna quit for now too much dark souls lately
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>>145858009
why would you captue and convert this and then post it here?
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>>145858109
So that everyone would know Bloodborne 2 is in early development

>>145858080
0 lighting
Max graphix
No HUD
Play in an area that has bloodborne reminiscent lighting
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>>145857723
DS3 took out everything that made the souls genre great except boss music and nice voice acting.

Levels are generic, no sen's funhouse, tomb of giants, latria, blighttown.

Bosses feel the same, its either another humanoid with a big sword in an arena or big monster dog.

None of the bosses have any interesting backstory really, Sulivan was far less interesting then i thought he would be.

Npc's/story was literally copypasta not even gonna try and go into it.

Online got completely fucked up, they NEVER should have tried to balance everything around duelling because that makes invading all but impossible against ganks+estus chugging.

I love fightclubs but that got boring real quick.
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>>145858080
Turn gamma all the way down.
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>>145858138
Are there any weapons with the quickstep WA that don't have complete ass range?
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>>145857987
at least he plays the game and improves instead of giving a shitposter (you)'s
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>>145858290
I don't think only posting your wins to youtube counts as "improving." Also, in DaS1, I beat him in front of his stream.
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>>145858138
>bloodborne.webm
>doesn't take the obvious visceral attack
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>>145858290
Peeve's a shitter, he always has been
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>>145858250
If there were I wouldn't be in such lament

Reminds me, I want to see if I can use Collector's Edition to give the Scythe a dagger moveset to Gherman quickstep with it
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>>145857572
The thing is none of the highlighters are recognizing it though
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>>145858239
When I saw the switches in the Archives I hoped there would be some kind of massive mechanism that totally changed the layout of the place.

But then it just slid back a bookshelf.

So disappointed.
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>>145858380
1, it would have attacked with the weapon instead
2. low level characters would go for a charged R2 instead of a visceral because it would do more damage
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>skelebros help you kill the demon

neat
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>>145858239
M8 the levels and bosses are fine, though I will agree about the lack of backstory
They really scaled down the lore dumps on item descriptions, plus there's a lack of NPCs like crestfallen and Frampt that would just sit there and give you directions on who people are and what the fuck is going on.
Also covenants are completely fucked, literally the worst they've ever been in the entire series. No lore for any of them, not even descriptions, and your covenant leaders are all nonliving shrines except for the Darkmoon bitch. Half of them are redundant and without sin there's really no reason to join most of them anyways.
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>try a bow build out since short/composite bows have a fun moveset now
>rapid shot and quick shot do less than half the damage of a regular shot and unlike a regular shot they have absolutely zero staggering power

maybe next game.
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>>145858515
>not watching the mimic 360 no scope this fucker back to hell
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>>145858515
skellingtons are the ultimate bros in the series
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>>145856532
>80 is the meme meta here
Nobody other than a few autists actually make characters at that level.

The vast majority of /dsg/ has all their endgame characters at 100-120. Plenty of people also have midgame Aldrich invaders at ~SL60 +6.

>>145856303
Ignore the shitposters, what you have is fine.
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who /suicidewatch/ here?
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>>145858661
For different reasons
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>>145856165
>>145856226
Speak for yourself.

Working on my SL60 athiest edgelord invader right now.
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>>145858661

damn, who is this?
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>>145858895
masterr876
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>>145856226
>no ones making a char for this
That's the entire point of events though.

They give you a reason to make a new character instead of just reusing your existing ones.
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>Failed to log in to the Dark Souls III game server.
Fuck off. It was doing this all yesterday, and now today too.
Is there any way to get around this? Do I have to wait for it to fix itself or something?
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>>145858584
You can try poison arrows. Build up poison fast just to annoy the fuck out of people.
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>>145856226
I already did faggot, it takes 2 hours tops
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>>145859104
>it takes 2 hours tops
doesnt mean theyll do it this event will be full of 120s
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>>145856160
>Prisoner's Chain at SL120
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>>145858461
kek
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>>145859217
get the popes to use collectors edition to check who is what level then bully them
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>>145859217
Only the pope and invaders need to be ~60 anyways. The phantoms can just be scaled down from 120.
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>>145859340
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>>145859340
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>>145859340
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>>145859567
>>145859495
My response images fail to show up

What did they mean by this
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If I use Prisoners Chain will there be a noticeable affect to my defense? Will I crumple like wet tissue paper to every hit or are those absorption numbers just useless mumbo jumbo From put in to confuse us?
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>>145859340
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>>145859253
Fuck off, parrot. That is a case where it is actually useful.
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Can I do duels outside Pontiff after I've killed Aldritch?
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>>145859760
you can summon 2 reds with finger
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>>145858657
>t. lucifer trying to get people to play with him
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>>145859340
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>>145858657

>Stop leveling new character at 80 instead of 100 for once
>PVP is still insanely active, with the added benefit of constant invasions

Not trying to start a shit flinging meta argument, but stopping at 80 or 100 is usually top tier for pvp.

SL 120 is pure cancer though.
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>>145860107
Level 120 is foe endgame duels and FCs. 50 is best for invasions.
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>>145860107

Wouldn't sl 100 be the best middle ground? I can't remember but is the phantom range 20 up and 20 down? 100 would get to play with both 80s and 120s.
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>>145857723
>Getting constant invades everywhere
Platform?
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>>145860107
>stopping at 80 or 100 is usually top tier for pvp
>120 is pure cancer
>Not trying to start a shit flinging meta argument

lol k
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>>145860221
SL100 kills invasions
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how can I be eygon
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Can I only summon either London pale shade or Gotthard for Abyss Watchers? Not both?
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>first playthrough
>have a grand total of one humanity after dumping 15 into Queelags sisters' face
>go to fight O&S
>didntthinkthisthrough.exe
>second attempt
>use the one humanity
>summon Solaire
>hang out in front of the fog gate to fish for summons
>get invaded by a dude called Ash
>Anti-Cheat pings
>tells me his stated level is 59 (close to mine) but his actual level is somewhere around 590
>lmao
>press F1, kick him
>a summon sign pops up
>it's this exact dude
>alright whatever, summon him
>standard emotes exchanged, then off into the arena
>him and Solaire BTFO Slim Jim
>Fatboy goes full tazer
>I get overconfident and try to slash him in the ass
>get sat on, instadead

Now I have no humanity, embarrassed myself in front of a cheater and don't know what to do. Oh well. I think I'll just park my ass in front of the fog gate and help faggots as a meat shield for the fight until I scratch together enough humanity to try another run.
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>>145860316

Why does it kill invasions? do invaders only invade people higher? if that's the case then i get you.
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>>145860384
Don't know what's going on, I just sent Londor shade away and I could summon sirris but not before?

Don't they like each other or some shit?
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Fextra is saying that morne's great hammer scales with AR and not faith, are they just saying it only scales with strength or am i missing something?

Also, what's the biggest weapon? The largest and most intimidating? I want my cannibal lady to be intimidating as fuck.
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>>145860384
you can only summon 2 dudes with finger in swamp
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>>145860465
it only goes 10% down
so 90 to around 130 or so

but most players finish the game by 80-90
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>>145860463
you can get from Anor Londo the same way you came in and farm Humanity from rats in the Depths if nobody summons you
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>>145859823
>>145860107
>Not trying to start a shit flinging meta argument
>SL 120 is pure cancer though.
Sure thing, pal.
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>>145860514
Faith doesnt increase the weapon art damage, your AR with it does
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>>145860852
>twitch polls & rigged polls
ayy
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>>145860514
just means it only deals physical damage since "holy" is not a damage type

if it were a lightning attack it's lightning damage would scale with faith investment
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>>145857113
play smart and come to terms with knowing that a very good player wont ever get hit by it

just like in any souls game desu
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>>145860884
>>145860948
Thanks anons!
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>>145857236
Sell it. I got myself a man serpent mask and couldn't do anything with it, but the maiden took care of it.
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how do i git gud at parrying?
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>>145860948
>"holy" is not a damage type
ONE JOB FROM
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>>145861159
practice
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>>145861159
use a small shield
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>sl80
>can invade endgame and participate in FCs

SL80 provides the best endgame experience in that you can do whatever you want to do.
SL120 is good for being able to make a build with the least sacrifices.
Anything inbetween is a no-man's-land and will be matched with one or the other.
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>>145860949
in ds3 i can combo yhorms with fast offhand and use it for passive trading and roll punishes
in ds1 i can't do the same with greataxes
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>>145860514
If you're making a cannibal lady, go with the Butcher's Knife. It's the cannibal weapon.
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>>145859698
No. No it isn't, anon. There's no reason you can't make a functioning build at SL120 without those 15 levels. His stats are all kinds of retarded, and he needs to switch to lighter armor and put on a helmet.

First of all, that guy needs to drop 10 points from Str since 50 gives you practically nothing compared to 40. Then replace the chain with Darkmoon Ring, dropping 12 points in Att. With that, you have 22 points to spend on Vig/End/Vit, without causing you to take 15% extra damage.
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>>145861274
>Anything inbetween is a no-man's-land and will be matched with one or the other.
So it's all man land instead?
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>>145860750
I just got summoned and helped murk the guy- I got a sunlight medal but no humanity. It's random then I guess? I'll try again, this pays hella souls.
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>>145861473
theoretically, yes
sure getting a few levels in to get a (very) slight advantage over SL80s is a thing, but go too far (>90? haven't checked) and you get matched wtih SL120 and you're at a minor disadvantage again.
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>>145861504
i think you get a soft humanity for it, not an item, but it's been so long since the last time i've played
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R8 my fashion

Also, what happens when you go from 31-69% equip, do you lose stamina speed or something?

Is there any reason for me to not hover at 69 rather than sayu, 50%?
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what items are possible to drop for other people?

I know you can't drop titanite, but what about spells, weapons, armor, rings, etc?

other consumables?
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>>145862012
it's shit

http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/equipment-load

>>145862057
spells no
weapons, armor, rings yes
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>>145862012
>cathedral knight torso
nah nigga, those sleeves look stupid as fuck
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>>145862012
looks like non-matching colored drapery
pretty much like every mixed armor in this game
capes were a mistake

also no, it is optimal for you to get as close to 70% as possible. i really hate not having 3 different roll types, dark souls feels so good because of it
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Wow
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What hat/helm goes well with firekeepers set that does not obscure/hide the face?
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>>145862181
Well DS2 had a lowering stamina regain the closer you got to fat rolling, I wasn't sure if ds3 did

I guess i'm back to my 69.9% lothric set
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>>145862275
Old Sorcerer Hat
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>>145862012
noodle arm medieval terrorist
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>>145862464
>Uggtorias of the Suburbyss
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>Curious about how to best use carthus bloodring
>Think of weapon that makes the most effective use of rolling
>Obviously think of gotthards
>Try it out in SL120 duels
>Destroying fucking everyone, no one can hit me unless I'm not paying attention, no one can parry me because if they try I just rolling L2 R2 instead of rolling L1
>FROM thought it was okay to let you roll 10+ times in a row and still be able to end with an attack before running out of stamina

Goddamn this shit is broken.
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What's that little shimmer that happens after you kill some enemies?
It sounds like a fizz or something and the character has this orangey mist around them
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>>145862696
you can randomly regen an estus usage after killing an enemy
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>>145862696
You killed a strong enemy and got +1 estus charge in your flask

RNG
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>do some sunbroing around post-pontiff
>end up with 880k souls
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>>145861274
Get with the time, grandpa. We've moved on from shitty SL like 80 and 120.

www.strawpoll.me/10479056/
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www.strawpoll.me/10479056/
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>>145862768
It would be hard to test, but I feel like the luck stat might actually play a role in determining when you get estus.
My luck build seems to get them far more frequently than any other character I've played.
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>get summoned
>no other phantoms, it's a 1v1
>look at host
>he's wearing EXACTLY the same armour I used to, except he's using FK helm instead of Maiden Hood
>has Claymore and Avelyn
>the most aggressive thing he does is Avelyn punish, occasionally switches to buckler and tries to parry my UGS

Okay, which one of you fucking cunts rolled my build and bastardised it like this
You absolute fucking cunt
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>>145862267

>dragon vore
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>>145863169
It's me.

And I didn't copy you. You copied me. I have the receipt.
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>>145863169
me :^)
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>>145862464
dat booty tho senpai
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>>145863169
It was my wife's son. I'm sorry, he took my PC again
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>summoned to duel in pontiffs on PC
>the host literally casts instant soul stream without flasking
>casts the flying knight aoe starstorm non stop
>casts some aoe lighting spell that i cant even remember
>all this not flasking once
>has tears of denial
man how do i deal with these shitters
gotta hack their way through an already easy game
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Lorewise who wins?
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>2h Dark AGS rolling r1's deal around 500 damage
>ripostes and backstabs around 600~700
Am I doing something wrong or is it normal for my critical hits not do do any damage without Hornet Ring?
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>>145863169
>>145863394
>>145863407
>>145863461

What a bunch of faggots. You all copied and bastardized my original fashion.

Have you no shame?
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>>145863531
Artorias succumbed to the abyss like a pussy

Ornstein is convoluted but his armor is pretty strong apparently

also Leo Ring is stronger than Wolf Ring
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How do you faggots like DaS2 i tried playing it again with a new character and my god shit is awful the rolling sucks everything is just shit
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>>145862012
PRETTY GOOD
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>>145863690
>fashion

wearing dresses under plate armor looks silly
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>>145863531
If DS1, Orny is gonna get poisestabbed.
If DS3, he's still gonna lose because lol greatshields
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>>145863531
>Artorias with Wolf Ring +15

*staggers*

I have to say Ornstein wins this one.
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>>145861274
Really don't understand the point of going above 80
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>>145863732
This. I just started from Das 1 and everyting is so shit. floaty movement, weapons have no weight, the move sets are retarded and have too much spinning and shit. when you get hit you cant even, tell the jumping is even more awrkward. Im only slogging though it because I already got the DLC, which im hardly even enjoying. can;t wait to play BB and Das 3
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>>145863531
he wins
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>>145863834
because then you can use full builds instead of gimped half-builds

>b-but sl80 is so diverse! there's 30/30 quality instead of 40/40 and there's mages with half the stats they need to be any good at all
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>>145863531
Ornstein

Trained by NK
Fucks up dragons
Shoots lightning
Better fashion
Better plume
Better ring
Better husbando
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>>145850729
Apologize.
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>>145863964
what the fuck are you talking about, can't you see how POWERFUL mages are at that level range?
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What weapons are well suited for Dark infusion? And good heavy hitting weapons?
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Why do the Dark Souls 1 bosses feel so much more timeless and significant than the other souls games bosses?

Is it just nostalgia? I still feel more of a sense of enchantment and desire to explore in dks1 than any other game, even though I've seen everything already.
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>>145864380
AGS, Estoc, Thrall Axe
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Anyone have a link to the aggression mod in 3? I don't see it in any of the tables
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>>145864392
>Is it just nostalgia
yes
for me no bosses are as memorable as des bosses even though objectively most of them are shit
i actually hate most of ds1 bosses and find them nowhere nearly as fun to fight against as ds3 and bb ones
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>>145864392
Literally half of them being shit aside, each had a different "stage hazard". That and most attacks required you to roll to a correct direction instead of just rolling anywhere.
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>>145864392
Interconnected world, everything looping into eachother.
The mind-boggling question is; why the fuck isnt DS3 like that, its really linear in area-to-area connection. Even though i like DS2 i was hoping that with Myizaki back at the helm we'd get a really interconnected world.
Sad to see how it turned out even though i still enjoy DS3 for what it is
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>>145864380
if you want a dark knight-like build use black flame and lothric knight straight sword, it's goat when dark infused
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>>145864608
games with interconnected world where everything loops into other locations:
>ds1
games with mostly linear level design aside from a few branching paths:
>all other soulsborne games
ds1 faggots are the worst
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>>145864808
and that's a great point as to why Dark Souls is the only great game in the series
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>>145850607
succ
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>>145850729
>cool long things around. Need shield, speed demon!
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>>145864703
I'll be damned, I fought that invader at pontiff just a second ago.
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>>145864912
Dark Souls has a bunch of interconnected shitty levels.
Demon's Souls, Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 have a bunch of not perfectly interconnected great levels.
>>
We gonna have a PC fightclub anytime soon?
>>
>5k in ds1
>4k in ds2
what is your excuse for not playing the better games?
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>>145865110
you gonna have this *whips out dick*
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>>145864808
To be fair, when i mentioned interconnected world, i was reffering mostly to the first half of DS1; the best part. Post-londo didnt have that feel anymore and it became 4 different linear paths.
>>145864912
No fuck off
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>>145850607
What are the best looking sliders in the op?

I like 3
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>>145865065
name a single good area in Dark Souls 3

the only half decent one is Undead Settlement
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>>145865065
>Dark Souls 3
>great levels
Yeah, there's Cathedral and... uhh...

>>145865194
DaS PvP is shit. DaS2 everything is shit.
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I need support killing the tranny! I'd try myself all over again but I'm fucking sick of having to run through half the city every time I die. Is anyone in Darkened Anor Londo here?
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>he uses tears of denial in a duel
>he uses blossom in a duel
>he uses bombs in a duel
>he uses throwing knives in a duel
surely there isnt a lower level?
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Can anyone playing Das2on the PS3 give me a hand? m etting my shit rekt by the graverobber gank and that fucking elana

pls halp.
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>>145866000
>he uses duel charm
>he uses tumblebuffing
>he levels to 142
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Anyone here kind enough to help a SL49 shitter beat Champion Gundyr? l can't for the life of me deal with him and l'm running low on Embers. Summon sign right in front of Gundyr, password Vidya
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>>145866062
>>he uses duel charm
HAHAHA suck it
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>>145866000
There's absolutely nothing wrong with using all of that
Git gud, babby
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>>145866115
Sure, let me get my WonderSwan.
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>>145865272
Cathedral and archives are quite cool.
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I have to admit.
This has got to be one of the only games where I find sorcery/mages fun.

Thanks to melee meta I guess.
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>>145866115
i fucking suck
assuming you're on PC
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>>145866223
Get the base stats to wield, invest the rest into end/vit, you can plow with it through the game if you take time to get the scales. Walk around with powder so you can spam its badass AoE.
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>>145866223
It's amazing.
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>>145866253
>>145866492

Yeah, on PC. Thanks for the help, l really appreciate it. This is my first Souls game so l'm still having quite a trouble with most fast-tempo boss fights
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>>145866000
The best thing about ToD is landing a multi-hit riposte or shield break and proc'ing it on the second hit
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>>145855995
Second best buff, great range, pretty meta
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>>145866349
now try it without any melee weapons faggot
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>>145866000
I only have throwing knives equiped in case of ToD fags.
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>>145866115
>summoning on first run
the game wasn't made for you
try levelling up faggot
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>>145866864
can't because of the 120 memeta where pure casters can't function and if you go lower you just get matched with higher level players
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>>145866223
Gimmick weapon done right

R2 is great and you can do amazing damage with DMB on it
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>>145866864
>more Orbeck art

You found some? Is it worth looking at? There is hardly any Orbeck and he is best boy by far.
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what the fuck
the parries don't work

i'm supposed to use the Gargoyle Hammer but i'm lazy
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>>145866000
I can deal with ToD
I can deal with buffs, even triple stacked
I can deal with 40/40 shitters feeling the need to duel charm my single buff
I can even fucking deal with havelstoc and tumblebuff

But fuck those passive niggers with BKGA and a parry tool who only parry and never even touch their other attacks untill they one shot you with a hornet riposte.
At least fucking fight me faggot
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>>145866647

And down he goes. Thanks again for the support!
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>>145867252
>tfw once summoned a guy from taiwan for a duel that used yhorms and buckler
you can guess how he played
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Orbeck is a bitchboy.
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>>145866934
>>145867294

Fight me :^)
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Just wondering if anyone is willing to help me with the Catacombs of Carthus area? I haven't even found the first bonfire for it yet.. I'm on PC btw
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>>145866864
I wouldn't want to.
I love melee!
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>>145867252
Parryspammers are easy to deal with though. You just take out Astora GS or Witch's Locks or pretty much any weapon witrh unparryable WA.
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>>145867443
>summoning first run
>can't find the first fucking bonfire
REEEEEEEE
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>>145867443
Okay, let me get my SL387.
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>>145867171
Fujo twitters and pixiv - enjoy your Orbeck.
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>>145867362
>tfw from taiwan and use yhorms and a FUGS
Almost thought you summoned me for a moment there
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>>145867525
>>145867528

So uh is that a yes or a no? i'm just at the part where you beat the abyss watchers and that staircase opens up.
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>>145867574
Where are you finding all this shit for Orbeck you claim is out there? All I see is twin prince fuckery and it's getting old.
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>>145867443
what password?
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Am I too low level for the first zone in castle or is everyone too high? SL 13...also anyone down for some co op in ds3 pc
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>>145867740
Give me a sec to load it up, i'm going to set it as "sup" and ill be at the bit where it first says " catacombs of carthus "
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>>145867443
see>>145867525
& >>145866934
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>>145867734
Twitter. There at least two artists, who draw Orbeck. Not so much (well, only waifu keeper and edgy watchers can compete twins fuckery), but it exists.
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>>145867948
i don't even know if you can summon me, but let's try it
i'm very squishy though
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>>145868054
If you don't mind posting the tag you use to search Orbeck in pixiv, I'd appreciate it.

Is it Orbeck or is it in Japanese?
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>another twink pretending to be a new player in need
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>idiots who unzip the washing pole at low health and just running r1 your recovery
could this possibly be the worst tactic in the history of Namco Bandai/FROM Software's action RPG series, Dark Soulsâ„¢?
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>>145867468
It bugs me that some shit is unparryable. The logic of it seems so random.

>>145861436
But he have to wear lighter shit and compromise on his weapon and spell choices, not to mention all the FP he would be losing out on.
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>>145867050
this fuckin game
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Miyazaki said FromSoft is working on 3 new titles, with 1 in a dark fantasy setting and 1 an Armored Core game. What are we gonna see next?
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>>145868167
I don`t search him. I just follow bunch of japanese artists on twitter.
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>decide to try a magic guy
>been stuck on the big tree boss for like 3 hours

fuck
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Am i a bitch if i don't kill NK on my SL1 run?
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>>145868497
hit the bubbles with flashsword or greatsword, back up in 2nd phase and hit the arm/front bubbles with soul arrows as it walks toward you, wow you're done
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>PVP in Anor Londo
>a shimmering something with the Grass Crest Shield graphics effect around it walks in
>swing and miss repeatedly
>when I hit it does like 2 damage
>backstabs me twice to death
This was that funny invisibility ring wasn't it?
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>>145868497
lock off when casting spells
stand against him


consider getting pyro glove & fireball/fire orb

consider coming back later if it still doesn't work out because he's optional
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>>145868497
I started my 'only weapon is a shield' run and died to Iudex for a straight hour before I killed him

You just gotta get gud
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Is Yorksha's Spear worth using at all? I want a new weapon to try out and I love this one as far as looks go, and having a strike/thrust hybrid weapon sounds really useful.
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>>145866896
>Bloodring and sun ring
fun times.
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>>145867948
should've used RTSR
i was thinking he wouldn't oneshot me, but he did
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>>145868771
Terrible weapon but it makes you Jesus
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>>145868848
It's sweet bro I got him! thanks for your help if you want you jump on the next area with me.
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>>145868849
or /pol/ depending on the phantom colour
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>>145868771

I personally like its moveset, but its damage isn't really exceptional. I can't say much about its WA because I haven't used it, but I guess it could be useful against casters and people who rely a lot on their own WAs.
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>>145864703
What armour are you wearing? It looks good.
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>no silver knight weapons
why
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What would be a good weapon with minimal stat investment for a caster?
no straight swords because I already have flashsword for that
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Sl 84-89 where to invade/get invaded?
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>>145869243
i probably can't go with you through Irithyll because of my low health
but if you haven't done the Cathedral yet, i'll go there with you

i could try and stack some health rings though, if you really need my help
that dog will require some divine RNG for me if you don't kill it on the bridge
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>>145869421
lorian leggings, gundyr gauntlets, cornyx chestpiece, hood of prayer
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>>145868384
Source
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Holy fucking shit is there anything that can outplay a fucking farron greatsword
all they do is spin and you literaly cant outrange them as well
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>>145869768
>can't beat one of the easiest weapons in the game to beat
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>>145869701
Yeah I've done the cathedral, ill get rid of this dog and go inwards to the next bonfire if you want and ill summon you?
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>>145869768
>not rollstabbing them
>not giving them a taste of arbalest with explosive bolts
>not parrying them
>not blocking the first hit and immediately backstabbing them
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>>145869707
Gundyr Gauntlets are the best, the look so good with everything
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what weapon type would be the best for making multiple consecutive hits in PvP? Trying to make a pontiff ring build and am currently thinking that the dagger moveset would work pretty well (2h).
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>>145869652
CMW raw corvarian knife
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DS3 kinda sucks but at least there's some decent porn.
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>>145869902
wait, you can summon me on the bridge
i can try and kill the dog if you don't spawn it
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>>145850729
>faggot remember dragon
heh
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>>145869913
you cant block the first hit with all defensive stances
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>>145869950
I'd be swapping what's in the hand so buffs wouldn't work, it also requires quite a lot of stat investment & only gets a DD on chaos enchant
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>>145862012
Like it. Look like those elite sandnigger ninjas in the 300 movie
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>>145869936
yeah, it's a shame they are so fucking heavy
goddamn fromsoft, make vitality more efficient, i want more fashion souls
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>>145870038
parry the first spin or backstab the second
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Would whip or crossbow make for the most fun in a ds3 run?
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>second level of Soul Catcher instead of Shadow poison
Hooooly shit niggger what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck are you doing?
Why do you want to be so useless at 6/7?
Why do you not want to be able to clear and stack while harassing
In what world is the 10% damage increase worth this shit?
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Is there a way to look normal again after yoel's free level treatment?
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>>145852032
I usually start with a NPC's face and work my way from there.
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>>145870301
yes
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>>145869652

Rapier is the only thing that comes to mind. Sorcerers with base STR/DEX can wield it without any further investment.
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>>145870171
Is this dotards invading this general again?
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>>145870007
Okay, let's try it. Same pass bro ill wait for your sign on the bridge.
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do people at sl80 use other weapons than washing pole, L1 swords, gundyrs and bkg?
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>>145870371
really
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>>145870084
they should have just done what they did in ds1 and make endurance increase equipload

armor in this game isnt useless but the heavier sets are only marginally better then the lighter ones
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>>145863531
if you judge by how hard it was to beat those bosses, then Ornstein goes down in a fucking SECOND, dude. no exceptions
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>>145870523
then endurance is overpowered again
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>>145869707
Thanks
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>>145870581
endurance wasn't that overpowered in ds1
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>>145870672
t. havelmommy
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>>145870374
well I'd be going pyro because I'll be 45/45, but it's still only 2 points
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>>145870672
Yes yes it was, there was no "build" that didn't softcap it.
The issue with 3 is that armor is worthless not that Vit exists, the DR you get is nothing and Poise is even worse than 2
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>>145870523
You say that because you only look at physical styats. Most decent armours you can fit onto 15 vit will combine to break 20 physical ABS across the board, but your elemental ABS will suck.

Heavy armour doesn't ever sacrifice one for the other. Havel's will give you like 26-28 across the board for both physical and elemental. That makes a big difference when using split-damage weapons, as well as against casters. The idea that players can't resist anything unless they dump a stat is a good direction, because it at least means that most pvp builds have at least one clearly defined weakness and helps split damage not be as completely fucking abysmal as it would otherwise be.
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>>145870416
sorry that the dog strat didn't work - i was too close
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>>145869943
please respond
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>>145870963
Except there's plenty of decent armors that can give decent elemental and physical resistances

Not only that, but Havel's and Cathedral Knight's and all other heavier leaning sets have garbage reduction to physical attacks when hit

Elemental damage is the only thing notably reduced when wearing either of those sets, and those sets are immensely heavy

There needs to be a balance between Vitality actually having breakpoints that grant multiple bonuses to your carry weight and physical absorption not being so fucking ass unless you use something like STOMP or level to infinity
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>>145869978

This is the kind of people who think DS3 sucks.
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>>145870084
I've been running a pretty decent Pyromancer build for a while now and I decided to give Chaos weapons a shot. I like the results I have gotten, but I'm wondering if I should try dark weapons after seeing you using them

Is there a marginal reason to use one or the other, or should I maybe dabble with both?
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>>145870815
>Yes yes it was, there was no "build" that didn't softcap it.
softcapped end doesn't allow the retarded fastroll combinations like havelmom
you needed to go at least 20 points above it
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>>145870963
yeah but the damage reduction you get from that is still way lower then what the game tells you

i dont understand the mitigation stats in this game, 20% is clearly not 20% in many cases

>>145870815
i sort of liked how you could throw on a havels ring and then wear almost any outfit you liked assuming it wasn't HUEG, i know a lot of people where into minmaxing stats but i only ever cared about having atleast 40 poise and fastroll

of course at the higher level of play i would assume this would be a big deal, i was a shitter in ds1 and always followed the rule of knightly cool
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>first time playing
>went thief
>no stealth like in WoW
>have to backstab or die

fuck this is too hard, whats the easiest class to start off?
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>>145871517
Knight
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>>145864447
It's not out yet.
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>>145871238
i have a good amount of both
dark weapons are really mediocre in pve, there's only a few enemies notably weak to dark like the Dancer, but they are very good in pvp as they do a ton of chip damage through even the havel's shield
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>>145864703
>unironically duel charming Shitsword of Judgement
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>>145871517
There is stealth. Slow walk and you can hit some enemies with their back turned to you.
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>>145870815
That people soft capped it doesn't mean it was "OP."

They should have kept DaS1 End, or they should have kept DaS1 Poise if they were going to split End and Vit.
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>>145871615
i'm duel charming all glowing shit i see
i actually thought it's a DMB claymore
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Outside of speedrunning, what advantages does the Doll Skip present?
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>>145871632
>That people soft capped it doesn't mean it was "OP."
Yes it does, if every build gets it then obviously it's worth more than any other stat, ergo overpowered when compared to other stats.
This is not hard but then again you are actually retarded
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>>145871615
thats a claymore
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>>145871721
permanent hosting in farron gank swamp and pre-pontiff Irithyll
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>>145871750
>if every build gets it then obviously it's worth more than any other stat
so in your opinion ds1 vitality is overpowered as well?
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Now that the game's been out a few months, what's the generally accepted meta level for DS3?
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>>145871938
120 some people go 80 some want to reach both and stop at 100 suck my penis using your lips and saliva to make me feel good
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>>145871750
You're an idiot. That's not what OP means. The word you are looking for is "standard." At least 40 Vit and 40 End were standard in DaS1 because they offered basic functionality. Various builds took both of those stats beyond those points.

>>145871938
120 has won every poll.
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>>145871938
98 for cool kids
anything else for dummies
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>>145871685
>someone spent points to get a buff
>that's unfair better duel charm
:^)
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>>145869690
bls resbond
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>>145872090
I really love /tg/ sometimes
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>>145871938
do you want to invade?
60-79
do you want to invade low level areas?
10-20
do you want to be a retard?
120
do you want to play at the memeta?
140
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>>145872057
>Actually getting hit by a duel charm
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>>145872057
Buffing is fair, but so are duel charms.
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>>145871905
>so in your opinion ds1 vitality is overpowered as well?
To a degree yes.

OP literally means "over powered" IE stronger than everything else, END and Vig were OP because you can't do a build without them.
If one stat is worth more than every other stat then that stat is "over powered" aka OP.
OP doesn't mean instagibbing or whatever meaning its adopted from the CoD crowd, it means stronger than alternatives which END and Vig were, and that's just shit balancing
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>>145872057
well next time he won't spend points on a buff
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>>145871615
You can't duel charm WA buffs, only ones cast as spells.
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>>145871517
>>145871627
Yeah I was able to sneak up on almost every enemy and pretty much one shot with dagger. Shit you can even line of sight mobs by doing metal gear solid shit and hiding behind corners and shit.
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>>145872153
I invaded pr much everywhere as SL 90.
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hello what's a nice cheesy weapon in ds3 to complete NG with?

I don't enjoy shields so a beefy 2hander would be nice
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>>145872226
Except Vit and End benefit every build (e.g. Quaity, Str, Dex + Pyro) equally, so it is a standard and not "OP."
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>>145872165
>someone tosses 5 duel charms
>misses all five
>gets upset
>somehow feels he's entitled to fight players without buffs so turns on hacks
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How the fuck do you parry those fucking cathedral knights with the shield and mace? I swear it'll wind up a mace attack, I'll parry, and somehow it'll cancel out and do a shield bash instead, draining all my stamina so the followup mace smash destroys me.
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>>145870463
no, that's pretty much everything sl80 has to offer
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>>145872326
Anything that hits moderately hard and fast that you can apply bleed jelly on.
>>
this game never ceases to amaze me
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DaS2 IS FUCKING GARBAGE
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>>145872386
>you always want to take them
So what you are saying is that they are stronger than the other options.
Nigga those 2 stats are the literal definition of OP
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going through NG+ and i'm kind of bored (apart from doing bosses again), though i want to reach soul level 120 and get all the shit i forgot in the last playthrough for that sweet meta pvp

what have you anons done to stave off boredom when going through zones again? do you just run through all of it and only grab the +1 rings and shit?
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>>145872425
Why even parrying them? You can backstab them with way less effort
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>>145872545
>for that sweet meta pvp

few people actually go through NG+
most just use CE, duping exploits or farm winged knights
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is tumblebuffing going to be patched out any time soon or is it safe to practice it and make a build based around it
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>>145872649
i'm mainly doing it because i transposed the firelink shitsword instead of sunlight spear, and going through DS1 shortly after finishing DS3 made me realize how much i loved throwing lightning bolts
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>>145872569
I'm somehow having a ton of trouble backstabbing them. The greatsword ones are fine, but the shield ones just wreck my shit every time I try.
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>>145872723
>throwing lightning bolts
bad news anon
they're melee spells now
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>>145872731
Try kicking their shield down then? I've never really had trouble with either backstabbing or breaking their shield.
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>>145866223
I use it on my dragon-mage character, and it's a great weapon, and can be infused. Does slightly more damage than the MLGS, even with high int, has a great 2H slam attack (massive AoE with good damage) and is my weaponfu in Dark 1
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>>145872545

I hate farming for gems and like to +10 multitudes of different weapons. That's primarily why I go to NG+ and beyond.
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>>145872425
it's easier to use Stance against them
if you want to parry, memorize their combos and parry the secon hit, not the first
i know it's not the enemy you want, but the method is similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_z3VxjrZc
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>>145872479
fak
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>>145872827
>kicking their shield down
Haven't managed to once. They have way too much stamina for my piddly little kicks.
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dlc when
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>wearing armor in a game where rolling is almost completely invincible
>and poise has no function
>>
>summon a phantom
>the spawn in animation starts but it's just the swirly shit on the floor, no phantom
><name> has returned home
Wat.
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>>145872534
If every build uses them equally then they are standard. If one build benefits from it so much that people swarm to it at the exclusion of every thing else then it is OP.

Vit and End were standards because they benefited everyone equally. Dex, on the other hand, was OP by the end of DaS1 because there was no reason to use anything other than a Dex-Pyro.

>So what you are saying is that they are stronger than the other options.
The entire point is that there are not other competing options. Only Vit will raise your health., for example.
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>>145872948
Use a SS WA R2 anon
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>>145873063
>wearing anything other than havelmom which has the best poise to weight to meet the best breakpoint of poise
>>
is poise really still not a thing?

lmao from
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>>145873063
now go to an enemy that hits harder, like stray demon
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>>145872425
>>145872854
wait
found your guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX6faY45vIE
he's later in the video
you can do it with kicks but it's obviously harder
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>>145873063
>counting on rolls when the netcode is bad

You mess up once and you're dead kiddo. Damage absorption is all that lies between you and fuckers outputting 500 damage per hit.
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>>145873063
Now test it while naked and with base vit.
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>>145873181
>If every build uses them equally then they are standard
Sorry anon no, that's just flat out not true. But whatever clearly you are beyond any help, keep being wrong all you want
>everyone uses X
>NO DOESN'T MEAN X IS OP IT'S JUST STANDARD
A retard is a retard
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>>145873063
Only baddies disagree with this system
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>>145873326
>gets rekt in argument with no counter
>resorts to name calling
Lol, every time.
>>
Can Morne's greathammer be parried?
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>>145873326
there's a few things you need to understand

just because everyone uses something, usually means that it is better than something else, or nothing.
Just because it's better doesn't mean it's OP

if you have 5 identical weapons and then a sixth that has one damage more and is identical in everything else, that would cause most players to use it, it doesn't mean it's OP, it's just the better option
if given the option, most if not all players will use grass, because there is no downside other than a second or so of delay before a fight

similarly to stats, past a certain point, the value of levelling dex/str is simply too low compared to the value you get for levelling something like end or (old) vit

then again you're arguing with lucy so I have no idea why you're bothering or why I'm bothering
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>>145871632
this, split vit/end AND no poise heavily favours lightweight builds. the problem in ds1 was the combination of instant backstabs, very strong poise and end giving equip load. each of these on its own isn't that bad
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>>145873705
>Just because it's better doesn't mean it's OP
Being better than everything else does mean its OP anon. There really really REALLY isn't any way around this
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>>145873690
Only when 1 handed. Great weapons cannot be parried when 2-h
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>>145873915
Great weapon 2h roll attacks can be parried, however.
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>>145873894
there's a big difference between better and OP
there will always be a better
if you nerf the better thing, then something else will be better
if you nerf that something else will be better

it is theoretically possible to balance all items in a game, but it'll never practically happen unless they reduce the item pool significantly

Better item leads to "damn I don't have the better item, I'll have to perform slightly better than my opponent to make up for it"
overpowered item leads to "damn I don't have the overpowered item, might as well go afk"
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>>145873782
Plus they even changed the BSes, so they aren't as bad as they use to be, so poise stabs would have be far less of an issue. .
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>ultimate weapon cheevos in DaS1

how many of each slab do i need for this shit?
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>>145874110
>there's a big difference between better and OP
If something is better than everything else then its OP, the end.
Feel free to try and keep twisting words out of this but thats just how it is and everyone knows it and if you ask
"If X is better tan everything else does that mean its OP" they will all go "Yes"
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>>145874351
I can't tell if you're just shitposting to counter lucy's shitposting or if you're actually retarded
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>>145861147
how many souls did it sell for?
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>>145874549
I am fairly certain he is just retarded at this point.
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>>145874237
uh, 0.25?
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Why not just have strength increase your burden limit?
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>>145874761
Because that would be OP.
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>>145874761
doesn't make sense

if anything dexterity would allow faster movement in heavier armor
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>>145874351

If something is overpowered it performs TOO well and trivializes the game

even though the Carthus Curved Sword, for example, is much better than most other curved swords, you can still use things like the Falchion, Ghru Rotted Curved Sword, or Painting Guardian Sword with much effectiveness.

That is the difference between being better and being OP
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>>145856165
i can host as a pope but im not doing SL 60, can do 80 and no password to keep the 120+shitters out.

NG+5 btw see on?
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Consider the following

None of the stats have soft caps
On the contrary, all the stats increase exponentially, so that you gain the same percentage with each level put into the skill
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>>145873208
AND IT NEVER EVER WILL BE A THING
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>>145875053
>and no password to keep the 120+shitters out.
you're not supposed to be summoning players to fight

defenders are more lenient in build & level

the pope's SL is just to maximize invasions, if you still get invaded a lot at that level it's fine, if not, you're gonna have a bad time
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>>145855798
Whenever he thrusts is the safest to punish.

Whenever he he jumps at you like Gwyn in the first game is also okay to punish if you go in for a hit or two, but not being too greedy.
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>>145874237
normal/lightning/crystal
fire/chaos
magic/enchanted
divine/occult
raw doesn't need a slab
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>>145873324
Compiling images now
Default Knight Vitality is 15

>>145873215
Damage tests this time will be complimentary of NG+++ Aldrich Puppers doing their "Charge into leaping" attack.
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>>145874849
not when ultra weapons weigh 5 times what dex weapons weigh, without being significantly better in order to compensate
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>>145874761
str should give att speed and equip load
dex should give armor pierce and slightly better rolls
int should give cast speed
fai should give elemental defense
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There is nothing wrong with Vitality!
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Guys how do I beat a greatshield with a sorcerer?
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>>145875631

Chip damage, I guess.
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>>145875351
The idea should be to test naked with base vit versus heavy armor with a lot of vit. Heavy armor and vit sort of go hand in hand. The two builds should be the same level though so that they heavy armor side doesn't get the the extra benefits of higher defense from levels too.

>>145875397
It would be OP because every build needs to carry shit, so dex, int, fai, luck, and their combination builds would all be at a disadvantage versus str.
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>>145875397

I think it was a joke.
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>>145875631
CSS doesn't pierce, does it? turn into a dragon and roar
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>invade cathedral as a madman
>run around trying to find anyone, end up in watery area between giants
>blueberry summon!
>hey, he probably wants a concord
>sit down and make a toast
>he seems cautious
>stand with my back to him, curl up
>he seems confused, switches between items, equips a bow, shoots me once
>just curl up again
>he unequips all weapons and swings at the air
>woo, fisticuffs!
>do the same
>we have a fun ol' brawl
And then the host and his two phantoms showed up, I curled up again, and they R1 spammed me to death.
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>300+ hours in
>tfw still don't have a favorite weapon

Farron is my favorite aesthetically but i don't really like it in pvp
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Literally impossible
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>>145875719
>would all be at a disadvantage versus str.
did you not read my post?
str weapons weigh loads more, for zero reason

vit is a dump stat on any other build
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>>145875681
But I only have 7 ashen estus flasks.
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>>145875825

>not even his second phase where he spams dark magic

Enjoy, Anon.
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>>145875719
You can wear Havel's and the light crossbow I'm using to attract hotdogs with at 98.5% weight

The Vitality value I have in the first set of images is (32)
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>>145875631
whittle him down
if he plays too defensive you should be able to just chip him down through his shield, unless ofcourse you only brought 1-2 blue gatorades
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>>145875771
What if they are decent and can roll and shit.
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>>145875892

That's plenty. You have a weapon, too, don't ypu? If they're playing defensively then the most you can do is chip or attempt to break their guard. If they're being aggressive you can just force an opening and hit them directly.

It's definitely not easy to get around them as a Sorcerer, but I don't think it's impossible.
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>>145876038
you get fucked. you're asking how to use an underpowered build to defeat a really strong build. bait attacks and catch them in a flashsword/soul gsword combo. outplay them. use ce and respec to a bleed build
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>>145875825
Serves you right for using that butchered version of 3's HUD.
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What's the best pve greatsword / ultra greatsword?

I loved zwei in ds2 but it feels kinda lackluster in ds3.

Alternatively, any big ass 2h weapons.
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>>145875351
>40
>10
>40
>15
>40
>>>>>39

die
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>>145876038
>can roll
any build can roll and the only build that caster's can't fight is a bloodring "roll until you're out of ashen estus" build
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>>145876292
Profaned Greatsword if you have a quality build, Fume UGS if you have a pure STR build
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>>145876292
Propaned desu
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>>145875825
>acquire pendant
>acquire a good shield
>stand at a distance that puts you out of the chimpout's range in one roll backwards
>roll away from chimpout, run towards him and block for charged arm slam, sit still and block everything else
>punish hand slam at the end of the chimpout and end of five hit combo
>use pendant in second phase

Retard proof method, the only thing you could fuck up is using the pendant, and you get used to the timings after a few tries.
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>>145876292

For greatswords:

>Hollowslayer GS
>Executioner GS
>Black Knight Sword
>Twin Princes' GS

For UGS:

>Profaned GS
>Astora GS
>Cathedral Knight UGS
>Black Knight UGS
>Lorian's GS

Hollowslayer is obtainable really early and is the best regular GS. Astora GS is the lightest UGS and is incredibly good while also obtainable early. However, the Black Knight swords are also really good and so is the Profaned, which you get from the soul of Pontiff Sulyvahn. Those are probably your best bets for early-ish GS and UGS.
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>>145875789
Hosts in DaS3 just seem to be in full time NO FUN ALLOWED mode
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>>145875351
>END
>40

y tho?
using heavy weapons?

you only need like 15-20 for anything up to halberds.
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>>145875227
why did you even respond, that was 5 hours ago?

thank you
i know how to punish one more thing, but that's still not enough to make no-parry fight work for me
did it once and i'll never do it again
all sl1 videos i've seen are 4-5 minutes fights and my neurosis won't let me do something like that
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>>145876620
>Twin Princes'
>PvE
???

Why not Artorias's Greatsword instead?
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>>145876292
27/40 profained, 600 AR
higher than 50str FUGS
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>>145876385
>>145876389
>>145876620
>>145876730
thanks niggas

guess I'll start with hollowslayer and go profaned
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>>145876728

NG+ PvE isn't a thing?
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>>145876730
It doesn't even matter if it's AR is higher or not, FUGS pokes do fucking strike damage. That alone puts it into the trash.
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>>145876912
That's not what I mean, I'm just saying that Twin Princes isn't the best choice for PvE imo
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>>145876912
can't even use it until NG++ really as the only thing after twin princess is the final boss
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>>145877013
>>145877047

Good points.
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Post lewd art b0ss
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>>145875825
git gud my man
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>>145876937
so it's the opposite compared to ds2 now?
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I'm playing through the Souls series and I'm on two, why do people hate this game? I 100% completed Dark Souls and I'm actually enjoying this a bit.
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A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE REEEEEE
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>>145873324
>>145873215
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>>145876937
FUGS wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't nerfed to the ground, they should give it like 30-40 more base damage but make it unbuffable
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Is the Crystal Hail worth anything? Or should go with the Crystal Rapier? Sorceror build.
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>>145877724
now test naked base vit with naked high vit
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>>145877868
Crystal hail is ok, crystal rapier is trash but it gives you +50 item discovery
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>>145877682
FUCKING LINKFAAAAGS
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CYCLE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145877724
Test naked with 4 rings that decrease defense
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>>145877682
first time i listen to the dialogue because im not a good goy and didnt buy dick shit 2 twice

what the fuck is this shit? the dark knight returns?
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I need builds! Fun builds!!!!
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>>145877868
crystal hail is a total garbage and sage rapier is the second best rapier in the game
do the math
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>>145877383

>Gravelord Sword Dance

best miracle
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>>145878064
it's your fault dark sucks edgelord
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>>145875949
swap out the helmet for Pyro crown and get to 69.9 percent.
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>>145877868
The Rapier is one of the best weapons in the game, and an absolute must for any mage.

Ignore >>145877986, he's retarded. The rapier is basically the same as the Estoc, which is one of the best weapons in the game.
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Imagine if defense actually mattered in DaS3
SL125 "builds" with enough points left over to gouge vit and wear havels
Lowlevel builds always wearing knight armor for the ABS efficiency
Anything larger than a straightsword heavily penalized because its weight eats into the precious resource that allows you to stack defense
Daggers having their damage reduced to the game's hard-capped minimum against starting knight characters on the high wall and beyond, effectively becoming unusable
Straightswords hitting for sub100 damage and taking more than 10 consecutive combos to kill an armored player
Ultra weapons hitting for sub-200 damage and requiring retards dumb enough to unironically walk into hyperarmor trades almost a dozen times in order to actually kill anybody
Anti-elemental cloth making robe-wearers almost invincible to magic for no investment
Literally no way to effectively punish chugging since they're healing for 6 times the HP than your attacks deal, and they can do this 15 times.
Every fight drags on for 5+ minutes simply due to the sheer number of hits it takes to kill a player, even if they're not chugging.
Invaders trying to rollcatch a passive, rollspamming host to death are in for 20+ minute slugfests as each catch does less than a 20th of their target's HP and can be erased at any time by one of their endless estus flasks.
And, of course, split damage weapons will become even worse than they already are.
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Thanks FROM...
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>>145877724
Doing God's work, anon.
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Rolls need to cost more stamina.
That is my only complaint
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>>145877724
instead of B & C
run armor optimizer with some arbitrary weight limit, like 10 & 25 or something
https://3dots.github.io/ds3optimizer/#/optimizer
instead of D use full smough's, has higher defenses than havel
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ds1 5.6k
ds2 4k
why aren't you playing the actual good games?
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hey will somebody play 2-2 with me on Demon's Souls

SL 20
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>>145878992
They need to remove/overhaul iframes
>oh a giant is stepping on me
>but it doesn't damage me at all because i pressed roll
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>summon a lmao3buff shitter with BKG at pontiff
>basic duel, except dude has an issue with my crystal homing soulmass
>every time I use it he runs off the arena, heals, and spams the welcome gesture a few times
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>>145879092
>no region
why do you even want to play
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>>145877724

The base defense stat is what's important, so the important thing is just to make sure all 4 of your armor slots are filled with something, anything.

Beyond that, the % absorption is more important for big damage things like hornet ring ripostes. You should get respec with a backup save into a high vigor build and have someone hornet riposte you in each and note the damage difference between armor sets.
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>>145879096
I don't give a shit about that, it's always been that way. And having some attacks that you can't dodge would hurt the game more.
However, rolling should be more expensive and harder to simply chain indefinitely
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>>145879329
north america
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>>145879279
maybe you could stop using OP scrub spells, he could play normal. act faggoty, receive faggotry
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>>145878992
>can roll roughly 10 times and have a sliver of stamina left to still do a rolling L1 and roll away after
>use carthus bloodring to increase rolling iframes from 12 to 16
>use gotthards

Good times, good times...
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>>145879096
Yeah, I'd rather wait out for attacks to be done just like my western action games
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>>145879279
>hit a DMB shitter with a duel charm when he's in the middle of the animation
>proceeds to do nothing but run around the arena continuously until he dies
>sometimes they just jump off the side of the arena

Gotta be one of my favorite things to do in the game, discovering duel charms has changed my life. People get so salty if you hit them.
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>>145879431
>it's always been that way
That doesn't make it any better, iframes are a shit mechanic and it will always be. It makes no sense that every time you roll you phase out of reality for a brief moment where NOTHING can hit you.
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>>145879092
PSN crystal_mimi1988 if anyone wants to play demons souls today
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>>145879279
Redditors have this idea that everyone must play by their rules, and fly into autistic rage if you use something they've silently determined isn't allowed.

I can't tell you how many times I've had someone walk off that little hole and kill themselves, or else had a fightclub try to gank me because I threw a duel charm at their buffing garbage.
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>>145879876
And you don't think that having some attacks that are completely unavoidable with no indication would be even less attractive?
I can hear the cries of "instant death" and "artificial difficulty" already
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dsg.... why are you so dead
it makes me sad
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>>145879876
pvp would be nonexistant if rolls didn't have iframes due to the lag
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>>145880079
Because the release of DS2 fractured the community, most of the dedicated players here left soon after, and DS3 only continues to prove that the first two games of the series were flukes and future titles are only milking the name.
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F C W H E N
C

W
H
E
N
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>>145850607
Why aren't there any good waifus in the OP link? I used to see really good ones posted but none of them are in here
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What's the ideal SL range for auto summons in Aldrich faithful?
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>>145879732
>>145880068
Well what do you expect, if it's a weapon buff you are negating their entire build. Which, frankly, even with the buffs would deal less damage than your 40/40 quality. You wanted a cheap win instead of a good fight, they gave it to ya.
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>>145880460
50 +4-5
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>>145880404
I would host one but I gotta be in bed at 10, which is in half an hour.
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>>145880460

50-60 w/ +4-6 weapons has a lot of activity, but that area is extremely popular for PvP so pretty anything from 50 to 120 will get activity.
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>>145880525
This is true but they should still learn to dodge it since their entire build relies on a buff. For me anything but estus is ok.
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>>145880525

Here's your (you)
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>>145880683
sleep tight, pupper
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Finally get an invasion
guy running off toss a dagger
hits his body reacts
0 damage
Ok then..
Starts spamming fireballs
dodge through get a full combo with scimitars
at point blank range with his body reacting to every hit
0 damage
1 shots me witha fireball
look at his steam profile
1 vac ban on record
I actually got a hacker after waiting so long for an invasion
lmao he was a jap too
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198239273150/
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>>145880404
ps4 fc never
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>>145880525

That's the risk you take when you rely so heavily on a buff.
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>>145875852
Except other builds tend to carry more than one weapon.
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>>145881034
One (you) coming right up just for you.
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>mfw always disconnect when I lose
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>>145880380
Most of the DaS1fags came back with DaS3, though.
That's why the middling skill level is so inundated with obnoxious, whiny cancer crutching entirely on hornet fishing while raging over the lack of poise. Most of the high-level DaS1 vets now fill out the mid-tier skill level in DaS3, and passively backpedal while fishing for parries and exclusively using straightswords like Anris and Gotthards.

Most of DaS2's pvp community treated it with the same attitude you'd treat a fighting game (sometimes while being hilariously self-unaware) and were more interested in good fights, improving their spacing and learning from matches than just winning at all costs or quickly instantkilling some shitter. DaS1's community was all about contempt, spite-kiting, abusing as much broken shit as you could at once and 1-shotting things with gimmicky "tech" that relied on bad design and game bugs. It was a community of people who were perpetually salty, whiny and upset. Every fight was just an oppourtunity to 1-shot someone with a hornetstab for a quick ego boost, and every victory was just an oppourtunity to gesture over someone's corpse. DaS1's top players never learned important fundamentals like spacing, timing, feinting and baiting and so on because these were not skills involved in DaS1 pvp, and they were frothing in too much autistic rage to ever play DaS2 long enough to learn these things.

Naturally, the DaS1fags constitute the oveerwhelming majority of negativity surrounding DaS3 online, and can be misleading since, for a minority, they are so exceptionally vocal in their pissy, inept nerdrage. Naturally, that rings most truly here on /dsg/ where some autist rumpsore about the 4kings can fill half the bump limit themselves.
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Why do people prefer Hollowslayer GS over Claymore? Is it because of the moveset? Is it because of its looks? Does it have a better counter damage or something?
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>>145881580
Anon, please stop shitposting. Thanks.
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>>145881775
the standardized GS 2HR1s are literally the worst attack in the game. They can reliably be strafe-backstabbed, making them functionally useless against anybody but retards.

Hollowslayer is basically the same as the claymore, but with usable 2HR1s, and so a more functional moveset overall.
>>
Worth infusing the washing pole on a quality build? If so, what?
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>>145882009
Blessed
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>>145881138
https://youtu.be/LOUdG4idDYo?t=1941
this shot made me extremely confused
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>>145881403
Sure, fair enough. But I play honor duels to challenge myself against other players with equally powerful characters, not to stomp on a gimped build with my twice superior damage output.

I like to decide my matches with skill, not just throw a charm to make sure I never lose. But hey, whatever floats your boat, I'm not judging.
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>>145881920
>They can reliably be strafe-backstabbed

Really? I've only been strafe backstabbed when using 2HR1 glaives
>>
why she is so tsundere, every time she is really cruel
>>
>>145881580
all communities are equally shit
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>>145881580
glorious. saved.
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>>145881580
>Most of the high-level DaS1 vets now fill out the mid-tier skill level in DaS3, and passively backpedal while fishing for parries
>exclusively using straightswords like Anris and Gotthards.

>Most of DaS2's pvp community treated it with the same attitude you'd treat a fighting game (sometimes while being hilariously self-unaware) and were more interested in good fights, improving their spacing and learning from matches than just winning at all costs or quickly instantkilling some shitter.

The fact that you think anri's and gotthards are better than CCS speaks volumes on how little you know. If anything, DS1 players are the ones "improving spacing" as anyone who actually is playing the meta is going to be using a spear, something like the RHH, or just run a bleedbuild since it's a far easier method of instakilling people than parrying.

>DaS1fags constitute the oveerwhelming majority of negativity surrounding DaS3 online

Ds3 is way more like 1 than two, as proven by the fact that the largest complaint the average ds1 fag would have about the game is that it's basically just a compilation of ds1 memes. If anything, ds2 fags are mad that they got thrown under the bus.
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>>145881580
I pack pedal in duels even without parry fishing. being playing re-actively, is just the most effective way of playing.

Also, you are contradicting yourself multiple times in that post. For example:

>Most of DaS2's pvp community treated it with the same attitude you'd treat a fighting game
>DaS1's community was all about contempt, spite-kiting, abusing as much broken shit as you could at once and 1-shotting things with gimmicky "tech" that relied on bad design and game bugs.

The fighting game community does the same shit, especially at tournaments. You know combos/links, which are a core part of fighting games now, started out as abuse of a glitch.
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>>145882052
i'm pretty sure it hit my i-frames but due to lag it got a headshot and stunned me anyway.
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>>145882076

That is your build's weakness: Duel Charms.

If you were "skilled", you'd know how to play around your weakness instead of complaining.

Also, perhaps it's time to reconsider relying on buffs so much if the mere removal of them hampers your build to the point where it's inferior to a standard 40/40.
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>>145882045
Doesn't do much more damage really, but if you say so anon.
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>same thread up as there was this morning
>Saturday

DED GAEM
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>>145882504
>Haha yeah man if you were just skilled you'd deal with it

Apply that kind of logic to any other cancerous part of the meta. It's retarded. I don't have that much hate for people who use duel charms since replenishment + tears is the only really useful thing you can do with a faith build anyway (and int generally doesn't buff in the first place), but acting like everything is a matter of the players skill as though there wasn't any type of ingame imbalance is just willful ignorance.
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>>145882504
>perhaps it's time to reconsider relying on buffs so much if the mere removal of them hampers your build to the point where it's inferior to a standard 40/40.
>implying there aren't builds which are inferior to 40/40
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>>145882504
>bring jesus cosplay to the cosplay event
>uses a lot of regen buffs and raw weapons
>using infinite buff duration because otherwise my buffs would end before I finish buffing
>someone is pissed I buffed on a build with 60 fucking attunement
>throws duel charms at me
>it bugs out due to the script and makes me regenerate my entire healthbar every 0.1 seconds for some odd reason
>have to climb up the ladder, turn off the script, wait for the duel charm to run out and rebuff
>he did it three times
god fucking damned I'm still pissed about that
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>>145882504
You seem to be implying I use buffs, which I don't. Also I have no idea why you put "skilled" in quotation marks, that has hardly any relevance in my post.

And yeah, buff builds are kinda shit, and to be optimal everyone should respec into 40/40. But there is this thing called variety, which I would like to have in my PvP environment. And that is something I try to help along on my small part by not always using duel charms, since I probably wouldn't much enjoy everyone running around with havelstoc builds.
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>>145883435
Excuse me for a moment:
>implying there [are] builds which [aren't] inferior to 40/40
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>>145883260
The only thing that needs to change is that the hornet ring and tumble-buffing needs to be banned in FCs (not invasions). Everything else is fine.
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>>145882504
>If you were "skilled", you'd know how to play around your weakness instead of complaining.

what's the weakness of 40/40 quality

duel charms should disable infusions too 2bh
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>>145882402
CCS requires spacing to use properly in duels. The skillcap is much higher than straightswords, which is why DaS1fags shy away from it. Straightswords are functionally the best crutch for players that don't know how to space themselves. Incidentally, backpedalling is also the playstyle that telegraphs someone ignorant of spacing. Every top player in DaS2 went through their backpedalling phase, because it's the natural reaction to a spacing-dependent metagame where you don't know how to space. They also grew out of it eventually because knowing how to space ultimately means knowing how to be aggressive and apply pressure without relying on poise of the ability to mash with a strong R1. The guys who learned in DaS2 how to rush-down passive spinners with a great scythe and win 95% of their fights against ice rapiers and chaosblades are the ones that nobody can beat now. The ones who never learned what any of those words mean because they could just ninjaflip in place of spacing and poisestab in place of attacking are just now going through their "too afraid to step forward" phase in learning how to play a spacing-dependent meta, which is why they gravitate towards straightswords and are uncomfortable with spacing-reliant curved swords.

Despite the recycled content and throwbacks, DaS3 is so different from 1 mechanically that the two games' pvp metas basically offer no transferable skills. This is part of what fuels the perpetual frustration of DaS1fags, who literally cannot stop spamming every corner of the internet with their frustration over their inability to poisestab, toggle-escape and ninjaflip. It's also why there's so much futile rage over duel charms. DaS2's post-dlc meta was essentially buffless because nobody liked relying on damage crutches and there was no real point in using them.
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Is the Drakeblood greatsword any good?
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So, items from cheat engine, can i trade them with other players? Like the dark wood grain ring?
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>>145883534
>getting colon crucified over a duel charm when you literally abused CE to make your buffs better in a goddamn /dsg/ event
Holy fuck, Jesus. Kill yourself, and don't come back 3 days later this time.
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>>145879375
>>145879045
>>145875719
32 vitality with armor sets that are fairly weighty, standard NG+++ dog leap, Fallen Knight and Dancer (good weight:defense sets) included as well.
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>>145883667
>CCS requires spacing to use properly in duels.
>The skillcap is much higher than straightswords
but it's R1 is objectively better than straightswords, you're retarded. You're just talking about weapons you've never used, and probably games you've never played to boot. The fact that you're complaining about straightswords of all things shows that what you have trouble with is just overly aggressive players, regardless of how much you claim to be good at spacing. You're letting it slip over and over that you're really just angry over how much more similar this game is to 1 than 2.
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>>145883667
>implying gotthards and O&U, the most popular twin weapons in a game without powerstancing, aren't a DS2fag magnets
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>>145883260

I understand that, but it's not like Duel Charms are in any way imbalanced. After all, they can't be thrown as deftly as a throwing knife.

>>145883435

Hasn't it always been that way? I'm not denying that builds such as magic ones aren't underpowered. That's something FROM needs to work on.

>>145883549

Sorry, it probably made me sounds like a douche.

In that case, FROM should consider helping out the underpowered builds so they're more desirable. That's definitely a big problem.

>>145883647

I mean that anyone who relies heavily on their buffs should do their best to avoid Duel Charms and expect one from every person they fight. If they get debuffed, they should have some sort of weapon or strategy to fall back on.
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How accurate is this?
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>>145884150
>implying anybody actually used powerstancing after the helixodon nerf
heh, I'm guessing you never actually played 2.
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>>145883953
>?
but anon without my buffs I'm just a naked SL30 build
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>>145883719
yes

if you have 60 faith and slb/ dmb
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>>145884301
>implying people in 2 actually played their own meta
I'm guessing you never actually went online
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>>145883719
yes, if you infuse it with fire and then tumblebuff dark blade (or vice versa) onto it

when you unlock all five damage elements onto a weapon it reaches its true potential
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Please advise me on how to cut tail
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>>145884506
git gud
I never got gud enouh to beat either manus or kalameet, let alone tailcut, because I went to NG+ on my first run and thus had to experience the horrors of NG+ dlc for the first time on an awful build

your build looks pretty OP so you should be fine
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>>145884506
bait the stand up fire attack
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>>145884295
Couldn't be more wrong.
DeS' balance was atrocious and nostalgiafags like him only get the illusion of balance because each build had, at most, 2 weapons that were actually usable. The overwhelming majority of gear was unusable in pvp.

In the other paragraphs, he at least admits that he thinks 1's backstab meta was good just because he liked backstabs and not because there's any proper reasoning behind it, and that he disliked 2's meta because he disliked 2. It's hard to fault someone for expressing an opinion without any argument or reasoning to back it up.
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ds3 pvp is absolute shit


that said, i like the pve. anyone know if I'll get banned for changing boss flags to make them alive again? (or even if I can do that)

i want to fight abyss watchers and soul of cinder again, but cba replaying the game a third time.


pls halp
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>>145878291
I enjoyed the giant clam build video I watched yesterday, though that was mostly due to Zombie Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2YFgzzJiLA
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>>145884506
try taking off that disgusting fucking ui mod first
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>>145884628
>never beat Kalameet

stop sharing your opinions here, they're invalid.
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>>145884506
circle behind him until he does his butt slam
bait him into doing the fire attack where he sits on his legs, or that one that applies calamity
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>>145884649
I'd say it's one of the more dangerous things to mess around with and it doesn't work that well either

if you're in the area while changing the flag it seems to respawn but instantly kill the boss

I've done it once and haven't been flagged with, but I wouldn't recommend it

instead, I'd just go to NG+ and teleport to the bonfires before them using the "unlock all bonfires" script
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>>145884506

Wait for tail slam.
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>>145881580
You're really wrong
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>>145884801
that hurts anon

have you even beaten him in NG+ on a shitty build?
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>>145883956
>Fallen Knight blocked more damage than Black Iron
>almost blocked the same amount as Gundyr
superior set desu
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>>145885010
SL1 without pyromancy, does that count?

>>145884886
So reviving bosses is no bueno, but killing them out of order isn't? K fromsoft.

How about save-scumming?
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>>145885010
I took my sl1 character all the way up to the end of NG++ before I lost interest in it. I only bothered with the tailcut in NG, though.

Throwing excuses around won't help you git gud
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>Avelyn offhand
I can't believe I used to be one of these assholes.
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>invade in cathedral at ~30
>most hosts die of their own accord
I don't even have to do anything, just kind of follow them at a distance to keep them paranoid.
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>>145884649
apparently it's one of many things the game checks with your NG counter

if you need more information you're probably better off skimming the CE forum
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>>145885010
Not him, but I upgraded a heavy crossbow to +14 and shot lightning bolts at him. If I remember correctly it took more than 350 bolts to kill him from full health.
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>>145885078
it technically has low bleed resistance
alva hidden meta except the gloves
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>>145881580
Allow me to autistically respond in kind.

/dsg/ as a whole -- or really any large community considered collectively -- will not be made up of the best pvpers. The dark souls community, particular /dsg/, love to complain while thinking themselves better than they really are.

We have been the same whiny shits in every Souls game released, with a few strong players tossed in the mix. Making sweeping generalizations about the mentality of one game's community compared to another is just outright stupid, both were made up from the same posterbase.

Parries were never a reliable form of punishment against anyone remotely good in any of the souls games. They work against predictable and awful players, no amount of bow baiting will change that, Peeve.

DkS's top players would beat you without ever needing to backstab you, they were not strong players solely for the ability to BS someone who could not defend against it. You sound like someone complaining about frame traps or combos.

Spacing in souls is both fundamentally simple and universally applicable to all of its games, once you learned it in one you can apply it for all. It doesn't add depth to an already simple combat system based on vague estimations due to netcode.

The pvp in these games are not complex in any way, shape, or form. They are not fighting games, nor have any of them been well balanced. DeS/DkS derived depth from unintended mechanics, and they were removed in 2/3 while adding little to compensate. Naturally the latter's pvp is simpler, I don't see how you could possibly argue that the removal of options and punishment tools adds more depth to a game.


In short, keep sprinting in circles and thinking that does anything, DS2 player.
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>>145885210
alright then.
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>>145885210
her penis looks like it's upside down or something
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>>145885273
>alva hidden meta
>when it has okay-ish absorption
>and bad resistance to all other status buildups except bleed
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>>145885210
wew lad
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>>145885210
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>>145885326
Allow me to tl;dr:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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>>145883894
you mean DaS1? there's literally no anti-cheat iirc
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Why aren't you abusing this yet, /dsg/?

>the hit to damage absorption is negligable in basically every case
>suddenly people can't roll catch you any more
>rolling stamina cost is super low in DS3
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>>145885210
that's gay and illegal

>>145885153
>So reviving bosses is no bueno, but killing them out of order isn't? K fromsoft.
I don't know, I think it doesn't check "did he kill the prerequisite bosses"
if a boss is killed and suddenly the save file says he isn't killed, it might trigger some flag however

>SL1 without pyromancy, does that count?
y-yes

>>145885269
actually now that I think about it, I think I actually cheese killed kalameet by tanking his fire with a greatshield then shooting arrows at him

I can't be certain though because I barely uploaded DaS screenshots & lost my archive of screenshots during a format
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>>145885210
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>>145885436
>his

>>145885326
/dsg/ has always been particularly scrubby.

>particular /dsg/, love to complain while thinking themselves better than they really are.

You nailed it. The problem with /dsg/ is that it would rather whine about shit rather than learning to deal with it, and I don't mean that in the meme way. I mean actually learning how to counter things effectively rather than just trying to ban them.
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>>145885452
I was being kinda sarcastic. The gloves in particular are almost completely inferior to nameless knight gloves, which have more absorption in all categories except for dark resistance, all while still being lighter.

>and bad resistance to all other status buildups except bleed
Surely you don't care about poison and frost resistance?
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>>145885695
whats up with the hat, is he going bald?
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>>145885729
Calling the kettle black there Lucifer.
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>>145885326
>In short, keep sprinting in circles and thinking that does anything, DS2 player.
And here we have that signature pissiness typical to the DaS1 community. "The games are simple, there's no skill at all!" sounds like an awfully convenient excuse coming from someone who never got good. Still upset you got outspaced and dumped on in a duel? Or are you like Lucifer and already run off and stopped playing the game because it was too hard?
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>>145885210
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>>145885769
everything matters

everyone knows the real hidden meta is Morne's or Cathedral Knight FULL sets
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>>145885784
Nah, I am far from scrubbish. I like to fight strong opponents and come up with counters and counters to their counter-counters. I have always fallen on the play-to-win side of the scale.
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>>145885681
I'm not a faggot

>>145885326
I refuse to believe that /dsg/ isn't at the very least slightly better than the average player, due to a combination of being an autist, most likely playing previous games and on average spending more time on the games than the average player

the thing with most /dsg/ players is that not all of them want to be tryhards

there's some full tryhards thrown in the mix that spent a lot of time invading burg with +10 chaos weapons, but I think there's more players that enjoyed challenging themselves more, which is why there's often events that stray from conventional pvp
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>>145885681
-15% absorption is a lot
there's a reason why no one uses it at higher levels just like prisoner's chain
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>>145886042
Yeah, sure.
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>>145885729
I dunno, you still haven't managed to find a counter to the fact that you're a college dropout.
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>>145850607
What weapon or weapon moveset would you like to see added to DS3?

I miss the Silver Knight Spear. I loved poking critters with that thing. It didn't do a huge amount of damage but it was long and quick.
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>get up to around 90% bleed in a duel
>back off a bit
>blood moss
>opponent stops moving around for a second and just stares blankly
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>>145886047
To be honest, /dsg/ tends to be worse than the average player at meta levels in PvP hotspots. They tend to be slightly better than random PvEers that you will invade at random spots and levels.
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>>145886063
That's mainly because you have to be a well and truly awful player to get your roll caught in 3. Good players see no benefit from it because they don;t fuck up rolls nearly often enough for it to be worthwhile.

Getting your roll caught unironically is like getting a ninjaflip caught in DaS1. It basically relies entirely on you being incoherently bad at pressing buttons.
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>>145884630
>>145884880
>>145884902
He never does the tail slam and how do you actually bait the fire attack?
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>>145886196
>To be honest, /dsg/ tends to be worse than the average player at meta levels in PvP hotspots.
have you even finished the game to participate in said pvp hotspots yet?
lmao
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>>145886184
From a previous Souls game that is.
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>>145886063

It's really not, someone even posted earlier in this very thread about the meanlessness of using heavy armor vs. light cloth. It doesn't affect defense, which is what matters. Besides, it's still quite easy to stay in the 10-15% absorption range even with it on.

The extra iframes are fucking legit, seriously.
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>>145884295

>DeS PvP actually had the best balance of any Souls game.

0.
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Reminder that I AM the number 1 PVPer in all of /dsg/
Enjoy your day, peasants
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>>145885729
Luci please do not agree with me, it takes away from my validity rather than adding to it.

>>145885853
I did not claim that there was no skill involved at all, merely that DkS pvp's skill ceiling was higher.

You can outspace someone in both games, but spinning in circles was only ever capable of bullying slower weapons. Faster weapons, or anyone who just holds up a shield because you aren't going to force a roll with your prancing, make the technique look downright stupid. Mind you, that spacing is not the end all be all of pvp to begin with anyway. They are called fundamentals for a reason, they are the outright basics.
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>>145886184
I wouldn't mind the Silver Knight Spear, but I really just want more fun headgear back, things like the boar helmet from DaS1.

>>145886310
Just stay close and when he sits up to breath fire, roll under him.

>>145886313
I finished the game quite awhile back. Try to keep up, kiddo.
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>>145886429
B-BUT LUCY
AFRO SAMA BEAT YOU
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>>145886310

The fire attack is not a good attack to try the tailcut on, it's possible to do but you need a weapon like a halberd or the Murakumo to do it easily. He usually does the tail slammer after flying at you.
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>>145886195
>playing an aggressive build that relies on maintaining pressure and getting frequent hits in order to progressively build up a status effect that rapidly depletes at a constant rate as long as it's not being built up
>letting your opponent "back off"
He was shit anyways.
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>>145886486
>losing to a youtuber
honestly should be banned from PvP
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>>145886486
He was refusing to conform to my overlord meta so I felt bad for the autist and went easy on him.
It's wasn't a real win, I let him win.
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>>145886429

At least make it Queen instead of King.
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>>145886590
afro is first & foremost our guy
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>>145884506
As much as I like the novelty behind the tail cut weapons, I'm actually glad they didn't come back. They were honestly more annoying to get than anything.
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>>145866000
>SL120
>darkswords only
>final destination
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>>145886621
Why would a glorious overweight and neckbeared basement-dweller meme machine like me be a female?
This is treason and I hearby ban you from /dsg/.
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>>145886429

Piss off, Lucy.
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>>145886647
but afro videos got so unfunny
his newest shit is just cancerous memes that weren't even funny when they were new. combine that with the fact that he's barely above average at PvP and i don't get his popularity.
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>>145886745
t. filthy disgusting jap
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>>145886047
The average PvE player who runs through the game once and never touches it again would likely not visit a community to discuss the game, you are somewhat right there.

That said, you and I seem to have a very different definition of the word tryhard. Bullying new players doesn't offer much in the way of competition either.
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>>145886571

The activation is nearly instant and almost impossible to punish. Blood moss just fucking ruins bleedfags because of this, you can literally just roll back once or twice and use it and go about your day. Plus I mean, being super aggressive might work against scrubs but you're just asking to get counterhit or parried if you are overly and thus predictably aggressive. Most bleed builds these days go for combos (like onislayer into L1 L1) that insta-bleed instead of just being aggressive little twats, that gets you killed at higher levels.
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>start new character
>get Watchdogs of Farron covenant
>get to invade left and right
>switch to Blue Sentinels
>nothing at all
Why won't this game let me have fun as a blue berry?
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>>145885729

>it
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>>145886832
>his newest shit
are you joking?
all his shit is cancerous shit trying to get another smash hit meme like giantdad

doesn't change the fact he's our guy

>>145886863
well unless you go to specific places of dark souls competition which are the absolute epitome of tryhardness, you'll not find competition

if you tryhard, you make the game easier for yourself, thus there's less competition

if you challenge yourself, you'll actually get competition
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>>145886745

See >>145886834

Tailcuts were a nice optional challenge to get a special item.
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>>145886757

I said Queen I didn't say you were a female. You're the Dick-Queen. The Queen of Dicks. No one can suck a dick as well as you. Congratulations.

:^)
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>>145886438
>they are the outright basics.
The outright basics of DaS1 are hitting a poise breakpoint and equipping the hornet ring.

Actual mechanical and basic gameplay fundamentals were only relevant in pvp if you were a midrolling build that somehow couldn't poisestab consistently, and nobody played mirdolling builds unless they could poisestab the world.

For everything else, lightroll and ninjaflip were the universal solution to being outspaced or making spacing errors. The literal get out of jail free card universally effective against everything but backstabs.

Backstab tech was to DaS1 what spacing and timing were to DaS2. You learned to counterstab and avoid being counterstabbed much like a DaS2 would learn to time and aim your rolls to avoid getting rollpunished and learn how to catch bad rolls or use spacing, positioning and timing to pressure a player into vulnerable rolling. Unfortunately, DaS3's backstab tech is virtually nonexistent and barely relevant, son while all of those important fundamentals reinforced by DaS2 carry over, virtually none of the "skill ceiling" of DaS1 resulted in transferable skills.
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>>145887117
Why are you still posting here? You're banned, along with all the other SL80 meta shitters.
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>>145886042
>>145885853
>>145885326

Can yall niggas stop acting like this is a real fighting game? It's a fucking rpg with a bit of multi-player. Those shit not even properly balanced.

Stop acting like you're good. Anyone can be good at a damn rpg. It's like bragging about being the best at Mario party or some shit senpai.

If you really bout that life Holla at me in some tekken, marvel, or street fighter, shit I'll even give the dicking in some skull girls, soul caliber, or melty blood too.
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>>145886438
>merely that DkS pvp's skill ceiling was higher.
DaS2 has by far the highest PvP skill ceiling

DaS1 is just dark memegic & backstab chains
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>>145881580
>>145885326
>>145886047
duels are gay
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Get your Lucifer trip here!

http://pastebin.com/DfiuZpnz
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http://pastebin.com/DfiuZpnz

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One thing that confuses me about 3 is how for some returning weapon models. For the Flamberge they use the model from 2 instead of 1s Flamberge, yet for the Greataxe they went back to 1s version instead of the slimmer rusty Greataxe of 2. The Halberd is the one exception since the basic halberd is the Dark Souls 1 halberd while the Red-Hilted Halberd is the Dark Souls 2 version, which are the only returning weapons to have both models in as far as I know. Shit's weird.
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>>145887207
>banned
>still able to post

????

Why haven't you changed to Dick-Queen yet? I mean if you're going to make a joke trip you might as well make it actually funny. I'm trying to help you, anon.
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>>145887350
entire luci thread when?
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>>145887350
you're pretty lazy, at the very least you could have let it run a few more hours & gotten ss9GIT trips
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>>145886184
I too liked the silver knight spear.

I miss the balder side sword. It looked so nice. I'm glad that at least a new weapon has its move pool but it doesn't look as good.
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>All these talks and arguments about PvP meta
>I'm just sitting here waiting to be summoned to help people hit bosses
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>>145887418
DkS1 Flamberge looked retarded, even From must have realized it.
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>>145887582
It was great, just not a flamberge.
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>>145887418
It is the same universe, just farther into the future.
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>>145887494
I should update my script
inb4 doesn't work desu
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>>145887350
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>>145887580

Doesn't that get boring after awhile?
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>>145887468
dude you're banned anon stop posting that's against the rules

>>145887580
>helping casuls
I never understood this
I'd much rather just fight the boss again solo
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>>145886961
Aggression is only bad around the moderate levels of skill, where people haven't actually learned how to be properly aggressive, but are beginning to learn basic parry timings and the like to reinforce their passive play.

Parrying becomes significantly less effective the higher up in skill you go, and aggressive play becomes more powerful as skill level increases, since it's the highest-skill ceiling playstyle.

Also moss is slower than estus. Any case where an estus could be punished, moss can be as well. A 2 hit combo will usually do more damage than the actual bleed proc would have, so if you give someone an opening to punish your moss, you lost more health than the bleed would have dealt. Moss is really only effective against weapons that really shouldn't be used on a bleed build (eg. morning star, spiked mace) and players that aren't good enough to maintain effective pressure (which is, unfortunately, most of them).
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>tfw using Priestess, Dusk Crown and Saint rings to cast Tears on an entirely non faith based character

god this feels dirty
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>>145887580
been there, done that
gets pretty boring after some time especially when the host doesn't get the whole aggro ping-pong
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>>145887418
The DaS3 flamberge is a completely new model. DaS2's flamberge had that tacky red rectangle on the hilt.
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>>145851817
>Also limiting respawns? What is this.
If you ever spend enough time in the same area to notice enemies despawning, consider finding a new hobby because you're obviously irredeemably shit at videogames.
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>>145887265
>stop having fun

>>145887350
Doesn't really work. They aren't even secure trips.

Also you should have gone with something like "God-Queen Lose eFur." Your "trolling" is way to low to be on my level.

>>145887723
Actually, at the highest levels of play, passive play tends to reign supreme.
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>>145887123
>Spacing does not exist in the prior game because I say so
>I can't punish flip
>Stab and counterstab is all there is to the BS game
>Basic spacing and not mashing roll so you don't get roll caught is at all complex

I'm done.
You're just a big league chew piece of shit.
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NEW THREAD

>>145887817
>>145887817
>>145887817
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>>145887868
Yeah nobody ever wants to grind for the hundreds of items that you can only get from random drops in that stupid game.
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>>145887943
>Actually, at the highest levels of play, passive play tends to reign supreme.

actually the opposite is true of the thing you said
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>>145887418
I'm just confused on the Hard Leather and Black sets.
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>>145887868
>If you ever spend enough time in the same area to notice enemies despawning, consider finding a new hobby because you're obviously irredeemably shit at videogames.

>he has never farmed for anything
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>>145887723
>>145888026
*Holds up greatshield*
*Rolls Bleed*

Heh, too easy
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>>145888026
Now you are just being contrarian for the sake of it.
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>>145887723

It's about the same speed as an estus drink, and everyone and their mother always complains about how estus sips in invasions are pretty much unpunishable unless the person is retarded.

Same goes for moss, you act like I'm going to actually be relatively in range of you when I take it, or that I'm not sometimes going to punish you for running in like a madman when I back off. Unpredictability is the highest skill thing in the game, if you get punished for using a moss then you're just bad at the game, and honestly it's really really not that hard to get the short distance away needed for it and use it when they're not running yet.
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>>145888569
Also, can't you just roll through bleed build up in DaS3?
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>>145871567
I saw leto had a version so I assumed he got it from here. Guess not, thanks anywho
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>>145853231
you're already better than most shitters in this thread dude
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