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Rapture Edition

Previous Pantokrator >>145565179

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/dHdZ1cch

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.


>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Start playing multiplayer games

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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memes are gay
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second for ded
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at least try to keep this one running, fagits
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What is domg may never live. But dies again, faster and surer.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MonsterMashMadness

join game
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>>145813719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR_en0iMMDY
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>>145813818
someone should make a dom4-themed gachimuchi
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>>145813818
These things never cease to amaze me
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So my void spectre got insane this turn.
Since he has void sanity 20, the dice have gone crazy this turn, wow.
I got a Visitor so maybe that's why
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>>145815017
Why does he have two bottles of living water?
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>Ever not taking Misfortune 3/Luck 3
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>>145815017
dude, insane 1 is fucking nothing
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Vegetable Warriors 5 needs players!
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>>145815182
I know, but it's surprising that he got it.
I have been calling stuff in the void gate for 80 turns and none of it triggered Insanity.
That's because after being successful with it, there is a roll for insanity. And Void sanity makes them almost immune to it, which made me think the RNG went crazy there.
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>>145815154
what do you mean?
He has high MR, so what scares me off about void beings is being hit by them and not mindblasted, and even if i have void beings as bodyguards water elementals dont need a bodyguard roll to be there in the assassination attempt. Also uw water elementals are great and all that.
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>>145816019
He means that they don't stack. So one would be enough.
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>>145816314
>water bottles don't stack
uhhh, pretty sure they do
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>>145816447
they do
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>>145816314
lmau, do you even play this game?
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>>145816934
Does anybody?
>No turns
Apparently not
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Play your turns
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>>145820247
i will if you cuddle me, awoo-chan
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>>145820918
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>>145820918
How comfy would awoo cuddles be?
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Join ChaosHander
Do it!
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>>145820247
B A K A D O G
A
K
A
D
O
G
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>>145821730
Baka wolf*
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>>145821069
:(

would you want to be my friend?

>>145821220
a real lot, for sure. A-and is she having sex in that image? I thought awoo was pure!
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>>145822282
She's asleep up against a wall, get your mind out of the gutter!
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>>145813719

>>no arena every year mod
>>no better arena mod where you get artifacts

man up.
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>>145823058
>Arena every year mod
THAT DOESN'T EXIST
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>>145826320

Huh. Don't know why I thought that did, but definitely can't seem to find it.
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>>145826320
Why not? Seems like an easy thing to mod in
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Jotunheim, please do doubles.
Just march your army into Ermorian territory and press End Turn.
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>>145830302
Offer to give him some E gems to speed up his turns.
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ded
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>>145828327
Do it!
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How's NoBones going?
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good and active thread
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>>145840397
We could shout memes at each other to alleviate the lack of idle chit-chat. Or even make new ones. How about "back to the sea you go"?
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Ys national spells when
LA tuatha nation when
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>>145841326
We are come on to your land and rape your wimyn
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That feel when several of your games are waiting on single players to move to the next turn. Waiting for half a day.
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this thread doesn't deserve to live
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>>145848026
a thread is no one
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How do you equip Golem Thugs/SCs without a bless?
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>>145842997
Eriu is called Last of the Tuathas

I don't know what a LA celtic nation would look like, since the celtic nations mostly never attained LA-levels of human development and their mythological stuff is said to be dying out by MA. A lot of celtic mythological stuff is supposed to be particularly threatened by iron, so maybe that could be part of their background? What would LA Celtstuff look like- Scotland?

Ys national spells will surely happen in the same update that fixes merrow militia having no description.
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>>145842997
LA Man?
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MonsterMashMadness and ChaosHander needs dudes.
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>>145848565
Stick bone armor on them.
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>>145850526
>ChaosHander

turn story events off you faggot
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>>145850541
Also storm spool and vine shield will make them pretty much invulnerable.
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>>145851561
Will do
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>>145828327
Look through all of the modding documentation and if you can find a single thing which causes an arena match, you can do it.
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Dominions 5: ____________
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>>145854413
Never Ever
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>>145854413
The Heroic Age
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>>145854472
;_;
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>>145854413
Alive Thread
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What would happen first - my army retreating from siege to my province, or enemy army breaking the siege?
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>>145855351
IIRC breaking siege counts as normal movement (storming a fort doesn't, though, that happens afterwards), so they happen at the same time, which means there wouldn't be a fight.
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>>145854413
MAGE SUPPORT
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>>145835943
Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
This is after someone else asked for an extension, got a three day one and did his turn.
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Lanka you here? Can we chat?
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>>145858459
I don't negotiate with neither terrorists, faggots or shitters
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>>145858820
>says the guy who lost to HELHEIM
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>>145858929
delete this
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>>145858820
>>145858929

Its an obvious false flag dude
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>>145858956
You're a false flag.
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>>145859025
no u
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>>145858929
pfft
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>>145858820
Please ignore all these falseflaggers, I beg you I'm in a desperate position and too weak to defend myself against any invaders, I need help to survive, please I beg you I will make our alliance worthwhile if you give me time and help, I won't last much longer if things continue this way, please
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Mari, are you there? You're about to stale. Extended the turn by 3 hours, let me know if you need more.

Also, if any of you guys have difficulty submitting your turns on time, just let me know and I'll change the turn timer. It was supposed to be a slow-paced game anyway.
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Jotunheim, once again you are 26 hours away from staling. Why do you play with fate like this?
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>>145830579
Was he looking for E or D gems? I honestly couldn't tell.

Sure, I'll go for that trade.
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RIP
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>>145862482
He may have asked you D gems because you have a large income of them, but he certainly asked me for E. Maybe he was hoping to buy D from you to give me for E. He should ask Agartha.
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>>145859808
are you a steam shitter? I like to 1-800-extend-my-shit if something comes up
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So for Monster Mash probably need to go with a nation with easy access to H2s because the eligist level is lowered right? I'm not very familiar with the eligey mechanic
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>>145867607
Good, because I like to 1-800-send-your-turn-or-i-forcehost.

/v/anheim chat
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Which unit has the best fluff
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>>145871917
me
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>>145871917
Shrimp Soldier.
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VGL knockouts are starting. First match is /ffg/-/gsg/, then we'll have /domg/-/twg/.
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>>145871917
Moose from CoE4
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>>145874242
What time?
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>>145871917
Kitsune.
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>>145874507
Soon. Schedule says 17:40 UTC(ie in less than 20 minutes) but it'll probably be a bit later.
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>>145874983

Come to the chat neger
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>>145875891
Was it the Awe 12 guy?
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>>145876039
Nope, just a regular run of the mill scout with -4 str from an affliction.
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>>145876242
Did he just 360noscope the fucker with his shortbow or something?
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>>145876242
No Bottle of Living Water? I'm disappointed, R'lyeh.
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>>145876539
He pokes the squid head in the face to make it go away, a true man's man.
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BOWSKI, GET OUR TEAM VINE SHIELDS TO STOP FFG STABBING US TO DEATH
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BOXXI WAT U DOIN
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>being out elephanted in divegrass
BOWSKI PLS
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>Look at divegrass stream
>/domg/ are losing to the team that stole our elephant goalhorn
shamefur
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>Have to actually do my job and close the stream
>Come back and it's /twg/'s goalhorn again

Speaking of shamefur disprays
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>>145879970
WE MUST DEMAND A REMATCH WHERE THEY AREN'T ALL ORANGE/RED CONDITION
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>>145844469
Enjoy your molten pussy.
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So anyone wanna play some Shogun 2 multiplayer this evening?
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mfw /twg/ is dominating
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>>145880764
Our goalhorn played, we have already won
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>>145880764
Boksi is incompetent, news at 11.

Every win so far was a fluke.
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That's it, I'm gonna make a new pretender named /twg/ for Ermor and win my next EA PBEM with it, BELIEVE IT!
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Boski, is this large level of condition disparity actually allowed? Because fucking hell.
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>>145881675
The tournament wiki is called "implying rigged" for a reason.
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Wow, we fucking lost like idiots we are. Manager, why are we even paying you?
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>>145883287
I'm pretty sure the only reason Boksi is 'representing' us is that nobody is interested in taking over and nobody can make him just fuck off either.
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honestly boski has been doing well until we fought someone who is just as autistic as us
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Well, that's it then. Taken out in the Ro16 by /twg/. Again.

A lot of small factors consolidated to make this a loss, I think. Conditions definitely played a part in it(yes >>145881675, that's just how it goes sometimes) but I'm definitely a big part of it too. Partly it's because I didn't make the right changes, or didn't make them soon enough. In retrospect I think I should've mirrored /twg/'s formation and packed all my midfielders into the middle and played with an aggressive, high defensive line to try to dispossess them near the halfway line instead of letting them get into the box. But I didn't, at least partly because I didn't manage to test for this match at all. I managed to break my testing setup somehow while trying to get a different game to work. There's also the fact that I didn't give Quadbless Mictlan and Forester Bob any shooting cards while making the team in favor of just sticking more crossing and shooting abilities on them. This has proven to be a mistake.

Still, all-in-all, this wasn't a terrible performance. We got out of the group stage, with 9 points no less. We've got a guaranteed rep on the /vg/ team(though this is hardly a desirable trophy at the moment); we should probably decide who that should be.

Also, if you don't want to see a repeat of this, I'd love to have someone help me with the testing next league, since my own potato can barely handle running the game at all. Assuming this general doesn't die, but I have faith it won't.

PS: >>145883485 the way to make me fuck off would be for /domg/ to show disinterest or even outright hostility to the idea of participating next time. So far people have been pretty receptive to it each time.
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>>145883739
I still love you bby. Also how much of a rig do you ened here? is this shit super intensive?

also Send erf snek, he was our MVP this series
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>>145883739
Erf snek should represent us, no alternative. Also, maybe I can help in the testing for the next championship. Although I'm shit at sport games.
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>>145883992
>>145884170
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8, 8.1
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz or equivalent processor
1GB RAM
DirectX 9.0c compatible video card. 512MB Pixel Shader 3.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 7800 or AMD ATI Radeon x1300 video card)

RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
Windows Vista SP2, 7 SP1, 8, 8.1
Intel Core i3 530 or equivalent processor
2GB RAM
DirectX 9.0c compatible video card. 1024MB Pixel Shader 3.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 7950 or AMD ATI Radeon HD2400 or better)

This shit has to run on last-generation consoles, remember. Although testing doesn't require as stable a framerate as actual play would, since you're just making the AI play against itself.
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>>145884332
Bitch, I have 2 Titans in SLI mode for Dominions.
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>>145884332
sounds like my own shitty laptop could run it
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LAgame Agartha, are you there?
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>>145884821
If you want to, you can try installing it:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2016/Installation
(the page is a bit outdated, we're running 1.04 now, but seeing if it runs is the main thing)

Of course, it's gonna be a while until the next VGL starts and I'll need any testing done.
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Lambert get online on steam.
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>>145885767
He's probably asleep.
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>>145885765

Get in the steam chat m8
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the ride never ends
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SO MANY FUCKING HARUSPEXES

SO FUCKING MANY

FINALLY IT HAS APPEARED
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>>145889805
Enjoy it while it lasts, fucko.
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Lemuria, can we talk in the chat?
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>>145885680
hi lemuria, you can't hide from me ;)
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>>145885680
I'm in the chat now
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>>145889805
WHEN YOU CAN FIND SITES WHICH GIVE CAP SACREDS (THE GLOWING HILL) AND ONES THAT GIVE % REDUCTION IN THE COST OF A SCHOOL (FUCKING TONNES, BASALISK CAVE FOR ONE) WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PLEASED WITH A SHITTY SITE THAT GIVES 9 GEMS?
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>>145891995
THIS IS THE FIRST NATURE SITE I'VE FOUND ACROSS FORTY PROVINCES SO FAR, DON'T RAIN ON MY FUCKING PARADE YOU GODDAMN FROSTNIGGERS
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>>145893167
WELL MAYBE THE WOODS THINK YOU'RE A DICK AND DON'T WNAT YOU TO GET ANY GEMS.
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>>145893167
wish I had some nature income
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>>145891995
>>145893167
>>145893307
ALSO I HAVE FUCKTONS OF SCHOOL REDUCTION SITES. THEY'RE LITERALLY EVERYWHERE. JUST NO GEMS
>>145893375
>I have much more astral income than R'lyeh as a no-astral nation
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>>145893375
Fuck, I also have more W income than you, as a no-W land nation. what the fuck is up with your income? I have tons of E and you're killing me there.
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>>145893661
the waters decided I needed more E then anything else. Therefore I will become the E
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>>145893375
Damn, you're slightly ahead of me in E income. And in F too.

I find it funny that we're even in W though.
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>>145891995
Daione Sidhe are pretty mediocre anyway.

If it was Tuatha Warriors then shit would be golden, but Sidhe are meh.
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The fucking Golden Order started out right next to my capital.

If this isn't a sign of the Blessing of the Lord I don't know what is. DEUS VULT, BROTHERS MINE. LET US DESTROY ERMOR.
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>>145894627
[SKELETON SWEAT INTENSIFIES]
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You're in the game, and those guys slap your province's PD.

What do you do?
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>>145896178
Well, considering they're not set to attack, I should be fine.
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>>145896178
>being intimidated by scouts and a wuff
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>>145897130
Tell that to people who lost 4 provinces to them.
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LAgame utgard, are you here?
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>>145898235
Who's asking?
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>>145898348
ur mama
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>>145898459
MUUUUUM, I'M BUSY! I'll call you later! Bye!
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>>145898459
Fuck you mom, I'm a big boy, I'll go to sleep whenever i want to.
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time to end this little game
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>>145899152
If you're making a meme game, at least use a pretty map, there's plenty of pretty 400+ province maps to choose from and it's not like they see much use otherwise
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>>145899348
dude, it's shiva. remember what happened the last time someone used that map?
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>>145899152
It looks a lot more balanced than shit like Latus or Oeridia, at least.
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>>145902280
Well, it's not like balance matters at that scale. You could have clumps of 50 provinces worth of one terrain type and by the time someone is closing in for the win, they'd have a balanced territory.
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>>145902389
Only because the guy starting in 50 wastelands would never get close to "closing in for the win".

Unless it's someone like EA Xibalba or MA Ermor, of course.
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Magic Enhanced memegame when?
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>>145902613
In that kind of game, the players to drop first are the real winners
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>>145902848
After units mod memegame and monster mash memegame. Oh, and, you know, memegeddon memegame.
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>>145883739
YOU'LL HAVE MY AXE, OR MORE MY INSATIABLE INSANITY!
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>>145902907
Indubitably.
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>>145902613
>guy starting in 50 wastelands
Man, you mean like Flatus C'tis? I heard he lost real fast, right? Oh wait?
In memegames, endurance and locality of the stalers is EVERYTHING. You don't want to be next to the guys who won't ever quit, cause then you're all fucked. You want to be next to the guys who give up year 1 cause they suck, that's what forges the winners.
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>>145903586
MZ2, you're correct, but I dislike the reasons for you being correct.
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>>145902613
>Only because the guy starting in 50 wastelands
Oh, I remember a game like that
REEE
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>>145903937
lambert pls
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>>145904128
I'm not Lambert though
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Totally fair and balanced. Every nation had a fair start and a fair chance. Especially Ulm, who only had Cold 2.
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>>145904541
Sounds rough.
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>>145904541
Mountain survival allows movement through paths all year, it was an EA game.
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>>145904914
Well I didn't even think of that. I guess he didn't really have an excuse for going AI.
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>>145905128
He's Ulm, that's all the excuse he needed.

You're lucky he didn't just chainstale all game long.
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>>145893167
>>145893375
If the two of you are in need of some Nature or Astral income, we could talk out some kind of deal I bet.
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State of the art weapon of Durholm's military vs 2 pd.
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>>145906572
How to you make Chain Tarts good.
They seem like the weakest tarts after monstrum and E4.
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Enraged by the loss of his soldiers minotaur commander decides to show undead god who really is the biggest guy around.
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>the moment ancient undead monstrosity realizes that it's fucked

He didn't even get to run away.

>>145906721
For the most part you can't but they can roll decent crosspaths and diversity.
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>>145906572
>>145906786
>>145907030
What the actual fuck
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>>145906721
You can't, Spirits are garbage.

Try giving them a D gem so they can cast Soul Vortex.
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>>145907307
DOMINIONS
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>>145907462
>>145906786
DELETE THIS
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>>145898235
I am here now friendomundo. Who art thou?
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We need more OC to bump with.
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>Dreki goes AI

THIS PLEASES THE BLOOD GOD, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO NOT TAKE ONE OF MY HIGH PRIESTS ARM'S FOR NO REASON, TRULY ARMOK IS A FICKLE GOD.
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>>145910305
That just looks fucking stupid
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>>145910305
what the actual fuck
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Truly this is Bling worthy of the Empire. Dwarfs are welcome to join our Hammer possie anytime
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>>145911052
LOOK AT THE MOTHERFUCKING BOOTS, THEY ARE DELISCIOUS
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>>145911336
>boots
FUCK BOOTS
EVERYBODY KNOWS ARMOK'S TRUE LOVE IS FOR SOCKS
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>>145911398
THE SOCKS ARE IN THE BOOTS, DOM4 LACKS THE MOST HOLY SOCK SLOT SO WE MAKE DO WITH ATTACHING BOOTS TO THE SOCKS
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>>145883739
The version change also screwed us over, everyone was given a false hope that the goal fests would end.
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>>145905393
Practically the first site I found was a navigators guild to spam out cheap 1S1A mages, I'm gooder than good on Astral.
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>>145912452
Navigator guilds seem extremely common on this map.
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>>145912452
And by 'found' I mean 'stole from Hinnom as I invaded their forted farmland' back at the dawn of time.
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>>145912706
>Had 2, was about to take a third when Pan fucked up.

I'm still mad.
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So how do I play MA Caelum? Spamming icecrafters for resources to spam temple guards seems ok, but what else is there?
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>>145912706
I've seen a couple from touring around my neighbors with scouts.
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>>145913087
Awake dom10 flying pretender. Raid enemy's cap at turn 3.
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>>145913087
Play a better nation.
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Mod nation concept:
Sceleria removes Ermor while Marignon is about to make The Deal. Marignon goes batshit when they realize what happened and they almost did.
An alternate LA Marignon.

Shift in paths from F primary S secondary to S primary F secondary. Fire is devils is not liked as much.
Even nuttier flaggies. Freespawning, autoberserking, no upkeep flaggies with worse stats and more afflictions.
Secretive death and blood cults. Heretics that get killed if there's an inquisitor around. Foreign-recruit weak mages, with events used to place sites for both cult headquarters which allow the recruitment of decent mages.
Inquisitors get small patrol bonuses.
Sacred medium infantry that dualwield anti-undead magic maces. Sacred crossbowmen with flaming crossbows.
Siege engineers that have supply bonuses. For getting to forts in the middle of no-pop land and pulling them down.
Same old generic army. Crossbow spam not quite as OP with lower F but pls nerf anyways.

Thoughts?
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>>145914286
Why do they dual-wield anti-undead maces if Ermor is kill?
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>>145914286
>pls nerf
>marginon

I'd like a less fedoralord take on LA Mari, honestly. Too much deviation from real Catholic history for my tastes here, though (less so than actual LA mari but that's because devs are making commentary)
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>>145914535
Fuck I'm tired. Marignon*, and the ( should start at 'though'.
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>>145914535
Mari is more just Goetia rather than the devs making religious commentary.
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>>145914457
Lemuria.
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>>145914286
>dualwielding maces
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Who will win?
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>>145915109
Not us
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>>145914876
You'll have to actually explain your objection if you want anybody to care.
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>>145915109
Doggo.
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>>145915361
The fact that attempting to dual-wield maces is literally retarded. You can dual-wield axes fairly effectively, or shortswords reasonably well, but maces, as a blunt object, require a heavy, long swing to do serious damage (one that's fairly accurate at that to strike at the head or sides). Since this borders on impossible with two maces, nobody ever tried. Maces get paired with shields for a reason, like longswords - you need a serious arm on it.
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>>145915369
The Kraken has an amulet which autocasts twistfate each round
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>>145915607
What if it's flails?
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>>145915958
It isn't impossible
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>>145915958
That's even more retarded but I support the creation of uberflaggelants thematically

>>145916057
>nunchuks
>medieval flail
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>>145915607
Reasonable enough, I'll switch it to a flail. Thank you for actually using words.
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Squid vs 2nd Doggo, the revengening where Moat cheated.
http://imgur.com/a/845TI
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>>145907030
can you post items on the tart? i cant believe a GoR'd tart with any gear at all lost to that.

Also minotaurs are darkvision 50 and tarts are darkvision 100.
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Hey guys, diplomacy question:

Player A has attacked Player B and taken a bunch of their provinces. Some of those had forts, which Player A is in the process of besieging.
I attack Player A, and take a bunch of their provinces, including some originally owned by Player B. However, Player A has not cracked the forts.

I could postpone my attacks so A takes B's forts and then take them for myself. I could kick A off and take them directly from B. I could kick A off and let B keep the fort but not the surrounding provinces. I could give back some of what was B's land so he keeps forts with surrounding provinces.

I don't feel up to a full war with both A and B at once, but am convinced I can kick either of their asses one at a time.

What is the recommended course of action?
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ded
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>>145920029
just fuck up Player C instead of being a vulture fuck
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>>145920029
Let A and B fight it out.

If B still has a fighting force left, A will weaken him so you can take him on more easily afterwards. If not, it doesn't really matter what you do since B isn't in a position to interfere anyway.
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>>145920029
Just take everything A actually owns. If he prefers to crack B's forts rather than defend his own stuff, let him do it.
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>>145920029
Talk to player B, he's going to want some stuff back from A but if you pitch it as "Hey I can help you, mind if I keep province X and Y (provinces A has taken from B)?" you're the helpful one
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Join a game!
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>>145923442
I just adjudicated the nation resolution for nodiplo 2 and my vision is blurry. No.
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>>145917468
It's not geared obviously, still funny though. HP difference, overall better stats. It really shouldn't be possible but mino got some good rng and survived with 3 hp.
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>>145920029
So, going under the assumption that you have already attacked Player A, I would suggest you go after the Provinces that Player A owned before the war between A and B. The big reason to not go directly for the former player B's land is because should they bounce right back when A gets hit hard by you, you will be in a position to befriend them if you so choose. Additionally, if you are fast, you can claim all of A's lands while B only gets their old lands back. If you are even Faster, then if you can claim nearly all of A's lands before B gets back most of the land they lost, you can take some of those as part of 'cleaning up A'. If you don't care about breaking a promise, then you could even tell them you are only doing it to end A and are fine with giving those provinces back once A is actually dead. This can put your armies in a forward position to hit B while they think you are actively helping them.
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>>145925989
Or you could promise to make an alliance against someone, then as soon as everyone else attacks that person get cold feat, do nothing, then backstab the closest ally.
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>>145926229
If it ain't broken, don't fix it

Oh wait
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>>145926661
All that's broken are the promises the one who'd call himself Pantokr tramples
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>>145926752
>trusting Xibalba
>ever
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In Dragons everyone seems to be urging an attack on the Ermor menace to the North. But bear in mind the low points cost of the game and who controls the current thrones.

Arcoscephale controls a 2 point throne, is in position to take a throne from AI rlyeh and borders a neutral throne between Agartha and itself. This could be a 1 point throne but It has a 140~ defenders so is likely 2 points.

Forget the meme in the north. If you let Arcoscephale (who has no aggressive neighbours) be he is going to take the win from under your noses.

Just a friendly warning from a friend in the North
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>>145927949
Oh no, that isn't Memegeddon. He is talking about a Natgen game that I subbed into and despise playing in. The only thing stopping me from AI'ing or finding another sub is the dawning realization that for some reason no one is attacking me and I keep getting to do stupid stuff like make wish casters on a non-astral nation, Tart Factories on a non-death nation, Dom pushing on a nation that can't blood sac, and mass empowering mages into path combinations to see what various summons and spells do. I am less playing that game, and more using it to test out things that I would consider too worthless to try in a test game.
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>>145928160
[rattling]
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>>145926229
That's not getting cold feet, that's lying for a diplomatic advantage.

It's a perfectly acceptable part of dominions strategy, so long as it doesn't involve breaking any trade deals.
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Oh, before I forget. In early Spring of Year 5, I will be posting graphs again for everyone in Memegeddon. If you want to see it earlier you can ask me personally for the current placings and I will tell you, and if you don't want them shown, you should dispel it. That will force me to show an un-updated version from this turn when it hits year 5. Or I will have to recast it.
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>>145928770
can someone pls dispel this cunt
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>>145928160
Guys I found Ermor
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>>145928816
I thought pretty much everyone had already conceded to let Xibalba win. Considering he hasn't been attacked or hampered in any way yet, seems like a foregone conclusion.

Pity no MA Ermor or LA Lemuria is around to break the world and maybe be able to actually stop the bat.
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>>145928160
Facts speak for themselves.
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>>145929218
Don't look at me, I'm in the south. I'm much too /cozy/ over here eating Hinnom and sitesearching. Besides, my only way to get up North would be to carve a path through Helheim, who are our good friends. I have no intention of doing so.
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>>145928160
I'm not sure who the "friend in the North" is but yeah, I just noticed the thrones-to-win myself. Also who's actually urging an attack on little ol' me? Jotunheim, of course, but he brought my righteous anger upon himself. Certainly none of the massively larger and immediately-more-threatening nations would stoop to such underhanded methods to remove a rival before he has a chance to even do anything.
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I know this is perverse because domg is super orthodox in their approach to how games MUST be played

but

would anyone be interested in a binding-diplo game?

we can rp a little too
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>>145929863
You're also like a fifth the size of Xibalba, so he's unlikely to even notice you.
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>>145929218
No, I have been attacked. Pan attacked me when Lanka took him over. Lanka also at one point had an entire anti-bat coalition going that was almost half as big as the Pro-bat coalition I had going, too. The two thrones that were taken could sort of be seen as an attack as well, but on everyone.

The important thing is that no one has ever attacked me successfully, and because of that I have been able to help them prosper and succeed. It is my hope that when the chips are down and the votes are tallied, that the people of Oeridia will come through for me and elect me President.
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>>145930019
Not all of us can have literal oceans of good freespawn.
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>>145929991
I'd be down for that, but how are you going to enforce it?
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>>145930047
>AI Pan and a supposed coalition
>Attacked

I suppose I'll give you the thrones at least, I bet they did 10x as much as anything AI Pan did.
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>>145930157
I'd like to think that anyone who joins is interested in this sort of game

also kicking anyone who diplos at anyone and I catch them at it
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>>145929863
Vanheim, I would actually like to talk to you, if you have time on the Steam channel. I don't have anything specific in mind, but it's always nice to talk to people in far off places; and who knows, maybe there is something we could do for each other.
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>>145930402
I don't really think there's anything to talk about, but I'll be in the steam channel in a sec.
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>>145930402
sorry, steam channel is busy arguing about politics
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>>145930982
HEY
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>>145930982
It started with a throwaway comment by Ludroth about local politics, then cirno started his usualy thing
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>>145930982
It is an amazingly shitposty channel from time to time.
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>>145932214
to be fair, cirno is actually retarded and learned everything he knows from /pol/

>>145932189
>tips fedora
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>>145932272
C
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N
O
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Battles caused by an army defending a castle set to "Break Siege": where do they take place in the turn order? I assume in the normal combat phase, but I'm wondering when the two armies meet. Does breaking siege go at the same speed as friendly territory to friendly territory, or friendly territory to enemy territory?

To give an example, my fort is being sieged by an enemy. Let's assume that on the same turn I give my army orders to break siege and he gives his army orders to move to an adjacent province owned by me. Will our armies definitely meet and have a battle, or is it just maybe?
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>>145932375
Read the thread, retard.
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D E D
E
D
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>>145935743
You'll fight nothing, in all likelyhood
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>>145935743
Maybe test it?
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>>145935743
All in the manual.
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>>145935743
>>145941918
You'll fight nothing. Only way to catch him moving off is with magic phase movement.
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>>145945409
I'd like to remind you all that:

*Spear are just crossbow bolts attached to a stick for manual piercing and easy retrieval, using the kinetic potential energy of the muscles instead of the kinetic potential energy of the bowstring
*Bows are just primitive crossbows shooting primitive bolts
*Guns are just rapid-firing miniature crossbows that use the chemical potential energy of gunpowder instead of the kinetic potential energy of the bowstring
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Vanarus? Are you around? Need to talk to you.
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>>145946335
is that an AI riley or something? Its troop positioning looks odd
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>>145946507
Noice
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>>145946825
Just some picture I got on Domg. It was agartha related
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The restricted version of Magic Enhanced with only the national spells is up. http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=0

Also a test game for the full mod, come try it out: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2995
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>>145910305
what's that from
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>>145952295
Slow and steady, little buddy.
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Join a game!
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>>145952714
Why do these anime style animal girls keep being posted? I get the kitsune reference but that wolf girl has been posted for ages. I know that they are popular on some other boards for sure but why post them here?
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>>145952949
One guy likes her
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i am thinking about joining that magic enhanced game. who is with me?
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>>145952714
maybe try hosting a nonmeme game with nonmeme options
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>>145952949
2hu is set in a Chinese/Japanese mythological setting.
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>>145953052
At last I can understand why. He wants an fictional alternative to females that matter-of-the-factly both requires his affection and is ready to give him her own.

He should have just bought a dog.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
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>>145951031
Dear god, yes. I'm in.
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>>145951031
I'm already in too many meme games as it is.

Maybe next time.
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>>145946335
Being of here!
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>>145953312
>>145957767
List your nations and I'll add you to the thead
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Play your turns
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>>145961248
I just did and now I realised that I've messed up my expansion
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>>145961248
Don't worry, I will.

In four and a half hours.
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>>145951031
>>145958995
Could you change it to LA? I want to try LA Atlantis.
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Does the spell Quickness stack with a W9 bless?
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>>145962356
Nope
Quickness overrides the W9 bless since the W9 bless makes units attack twice every other round rather than every round like quickness does.
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>>145958701
You should look towards Arco. His only neighbour besides me was rlyeh who has gone AI. He is getting massive and is gonna get a throne victory if we done do something about it.

Juicy Rylehs lands are up for grabs
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Does summod work with latest patch?
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>>145963082
Why wouldn't it?
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>>145961248
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Reminder that vanheim best elves despite vanhere nerf.
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>>145951031
I seem unable to load the mod in the inspector, it just hangs. Meh.
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>>145968490
Illfraud just couldn't handle the fact elves were better than them.
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Anybody ever played Emperor of the Fading Suns? How about a PBEM sometime?
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>>145970587
Nah, the reason is Malakal's butthurt about virgin disciples echoed through space, causing Illwinter to increase the price of TC and Van's sacreds
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>>145970991
kek
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>>145970991
He probably sent a letter to illwinter complaining
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>>145971417
>it was Illwinter who organized that gangbang in the first place
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>>145971726
>Not getting the 'random event' turn 1 of "attack Pan, + here's a free gate stone"
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>>145946825
It was from BullyBootCamp, when Agartha made a final rush for an UW throne that would win him the game, and R'lyeh countered with a stack of like 100 starspawn summoning trillions of elementals.
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>>145958995
I'm EG on steam, I already posted in the steam thread claiming Riley/Atlantis.
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>>145973515
>People thinking they can take thrones from R'lyeh
When will this meme-filled nightmare end?
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>>145973720
That was literally the first example of the meme.

It was a fairly good gambit, as well, he just didn't anticipate that water elementals would be so effective against the legion of statues and Onyx Oracle SC.
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>>145968668
Found the issue - there was an alternate form of a monster I'd removed still there that was making the inspector crash, although it had no effect in game.

New version is here that works in the inspector:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-jNQgOwI-Q_UDdwUzBkSWwybU0
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NB. The centaur and his undead stuff are atatcking the minotaur as well, due to the minotaurs MASSIVE HATEBONER for the centaur.
IT IS STILL NOT GOING OPTIMALLY
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>>145974845
I hope everyone rolled up a new character for the next session.
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>>145974845
Was someone afraid?

I told you all the undead could smell fear. This is why terror is reserved for the purpose-built screaming chambers underneath the halls of the Sauromancers.
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>>145975712
Most of them are not undead though.

We just took loads of damage really fast between the javelin-tossing satyrs and the huge berserking minotaur. Also, the dice turned against us big time.
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>>145975106
EVERYTHING SHALL BE FINE
>>145975712
Actually, due to now having a person with common sense and diplomatic nouse you nearly had a civil discussion with the minotaur, before telling it that you burnt down this bit of the forest.
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do lizard with cold resistance ignore the extra fatigue from being in a cold region?
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>>145977276
IIRC they don't.
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I've been gone for a week, what's new?

Need my games back, and a quick thanks to everyone who subbed for the week.
Memegeddoniii - Altantis
Ediblegloves - R'lyeh
Fattenedcalf - R'lyeh
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>>145958995
if it's EA i'd like to play C'tis because i always wanted to play as my snake husbandos plus the mod litterally added my favourite god as summon.
i have to go now; tomorrow i'll register and confirm it in the thread.
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>>145978000
why is nyarko farting out a nebula
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>>145983103
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>>145983279
Because she can.
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>>145951031
Got a bug: EA Atlantis's Basalt Vein persists after the enchantment ends.
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>>145979072
It's been requested to change the Age to Late, as C'tis gets pretty much the same summons in EA and LA would that be a problem?
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>>145984035
Thanks, I think this is related to having different sites with the same name. I'll look into it and fix it for the next version.
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Arise my soulless warriors.
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>>145990397
>summoning soulless ever
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>>145990915
Longdead man, longdead man
Can do whatever a soulless can
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>tfw messed up expansion
time to die
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>>145993752
It is always time to try high-risk gambits to gain improportionate advantage compared to others. And go AI when they fail.
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>>145993752
>mess up expansion
>two neighbours go AI early
>end up being the biggest player by midgame

Never underestimate the power of faggot quitters.
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So whats the deal with MA Ctis sacreds
why the fuck the fat guy is only 1 per month he isnt even that strong
Why not remove this cap or make swamp guards non cap only so its actually worth it to take a blessing on a nation with a lvl 3 priest i really doubt that would make the nation OP
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>Some retard asks you for free provinces because they are getting bullied

They just gave me an excuse to bully them.
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>>145996019
...

So you want to make ctis a bless nation, just because?
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>>145996460
Yeah
cus their normal units are ass
And they literally only have marshmasters that do anything
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>>145997031
>Mage nation built around dick ass poison resit units needs better units
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>>145993752
No, it's a time for hyperaggressive gamble. If you stay small for a long time, your research and gem income and such like are never going to catch up, but you can still attack and possibly catch up.
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>>145997031
That's retarded. Go AI.
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I'm sorry.
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>>145996019
Give them an E9 F4 bless. Early expansion gets easier with medium infantry that protect like heavy infantry and fatigue like naked people. And the reinvig helps Lizard Shaman for communions, though not as much as a N4 bless so Personal Regen (shared through communion) heals 2 points instead of 1. E9F4 lets you throw a shroud on a Black Servant and maybe take down PD.
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>>146000903
>E9F4
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>>146000903
I know N9 E4 is kinde cliché, but it's good for tanky acreds and commslaves
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>>146002586
Nah, just cast regen on top of bless regen. MA C'tis doesn't really need a bless though since all their sacreds are garbage.
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How to play LA Tien?
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>>146006139
10 have ancestor guides summon skeletons
20 goto 10
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>>146006457
Ancestor Guides have spellcasting encumbrance 9. Possibly more, if older than usual. They're not good at spamming skeletons. And considering they cost 220g, their performance is extremely underwhelming.
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>>146006139
D9 demilich is a good place to start, gives you a decent bless for ancestor vessels, helps you with high end death magic and gives a ton of scales if it's imprisoned, and you need a lot of scales given how expensive your mages are. It also makes ancestral spirits have a decent chance of doing more than just temporarily holding up enemy units.
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Yeah LA Tc has a lot of tools that aren't skelly spam -

They have cheap foreign recruit cavalry. A scales build with prod can snowball its expansion quite well with heavy horsemen. In the later part of the game, they have a variety of battlefield-wide damage spells, with WoD, RoS, and Foul Vapors in their toolkit depending on what you can most easily position and protect yourself against.

Skellyspam with Foul Vapors is an option, but as >>146007596 said, your skelly spammers are expensive, high enc, and only D2.

Early game, you can spam ancestral spirits with a prophet blessing them, but you can quite quickly switch over to E buffs on your cavalry seeing as smiths can both drop spirits at Conj 1 and do the earthpower->buffs and earth meld thing

Their sacreds look cool, but are very expensive and you don't need them.
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>>146008253
A d9 demilich is fine. The fact that it helps give your sacreds a wee bit isn't nearly as good as the path itself, the spirit buff, and the fact that it makes your spooks tankier. I still wouldn't recruit the sacreds unless you're rolling in dosh. I'd pretty much always rather have two heavy horsemen when expanding
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ded
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>>146011750
no u
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>>146011750
Decapitated even
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>>146012551
>avatars enabled
Why would you subject this upon yourself
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>>146006139
Lots of ways. Early game can rely almost entirely on heavy barb horsemen, and they can be part of a potent rush against most enemies. Ancestor Vessels are also good, especially with the right bless.

Later on, you have flexible and well armored mages.
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very ded
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>>146017674
Sunday evening is DnD time, shush.
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>>146017839
extremely ded
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>>146019524
>Behesh: "I'm sorry Egalitus, have you forgotten I'm a necromancer? I can find a use for this."
>Egalitus frowns. "You sure raising the dead is such a smart idea, given the circumstances?"
>Behesh sneers. "I know what I'm doing."
>Nyxmantis shouts from afar "No you don't"
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>>146020472
>Someone says "I know what I'm doing" in DnD
This always ends well
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Play your turns
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>>146025045
Just get a dog already
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>>146025045
play with your stupid dogs
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>>146025236
>stupid wolves*
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>>146022941
>hold my elfwine and watch this
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so... do you really masturbate to all those touhu pics?
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>>146025532
Pretty sure he doesn't masturbate to ALL of them. Just the naughty ones.
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>>146025532
no I don't
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>>146025532
Do not fap to 2hus, they are pure and you wouldn't want to ruin them.
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>tfw ded
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>>146028050
see >>145811787
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ErmorOP Pan, one more stale and I'm gonna slap your shit.
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>>146008476
Their sacred ghosts are good
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Is there a way to make dominion levels irrelevant? Like nullifying the scale advantages and disadvantages? I need that for an upcoming mod.
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>>146029531
No.
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>>146029531
You can set most the scale modifiers to "does fucking nothing"
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>>146029531
You can set most of it to zero via some commands that are at the back of the mod manual.
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>>146029807
>>146029750
But there's no way to make scales cost nothing, right?
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>>146031965
No, but if they no longer matter, everyne takes all "negative" scales and has the same points
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C'mon Marignon, it's not that bad. And if it is, it wouldn't take you that long to do your turn.
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>>145811787
>read the manual
>it's 400+ pages
;_;
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>>146031965
Add 40*3*6 to the cost of each pretender god. Everyone takes max negative scales, which makes up for the point difference.
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Looks good so far. Now to balance all that shit.


9999 lightyears later.
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>>146035002
Fuck, I forgot freak lord and lobster dude.
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>>146032232
>>146034901
You'll have to change negative events as well, right? Or Magic is Fading all the time, everytime.
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>>146034825
Most of it is statblocks
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>>146034825
Most of it nobody reads. The only useful stuff after page 118 is the spell reference at the end (which often has more detailed information than the ingame descriptions or inspector), and that's not something you'll read in full.

You don't need to read it immediately, but it has lots of information on how the game works. The manual talks about a lot of important mechanics which you might not notice by just playing the game.
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rotp pan, get in chat
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ded
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Any games to sign up for?
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play your turns
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>>146048895
>-3 morale
For what purpose?
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>>146052269
Are late age mictlan any good? I'll be blunt. I hope the Atlantis portions are good
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>>146052904
Eh. The new UW stuff is expensive and uninspiring. LA Mictlan gets by just by being a blood nation in LA where gems are rarer and blood is richer, but expansion is harder and ubiquitous crossbow spam makes jags seem less impressive
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>>146034662
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>146054125
MEME SUPPORT
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>>145961501
>>145979072
I've reserved LA Atlantis and C'tis for the Magic Enhanced game, here is the Steam thread if you want to sign up: https://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/358415206091355341/
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>>146053040
>ubiquitous crossbow spam makes jags seem less impressive
It's more the uniquitous heavy armor, I think.

None of the attacks on jaguars are very high damage, so everyone and walking around in plate really hurts their ability to kill things.
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Unfortunately I will not be able to make my turns this weekend, since I'll be away from my computer.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask for an extension in several games, from Friday the 24th to Sunday the 26th.

I am in the following games:
>ErmorOP (Nazca)
>Fattened_Calf (Caelum)
>LAte_to_the_party (Pangaea) -- I'm almost dead in this one so I wouldn't be too mad if I stale here, but I'd still rather go down fighting
>MemegeddonIII (T'ien Ch'i)
>PointsOfLightFix (T'ien Ch'i)
>SansMemes (R'lyeh)

I'll post again before I leave, but I'm just going to give a heads-up right now to increase the chances of the admins for these games getting the message in time.
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>>146055441
Ok, but make sure that you remind me clearly on which turn you want the extension when it comes up.
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>>146055610
I'll do my best.
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>>146054125
Was that Flaming Arrows and lots of PD?

I was actually expecting EQ spam, when you said he had one big army.
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>>146055759
It was 30 PD of barbarians + those units.
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>>146055441
Hey Rlyeh this is Kailasa. You can take that fort back, I vacated it. No hard feelings I hope.
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>>146057542
A L I T T L E B I T O F H A R D F E E L I N G S A C T U A L L Y , B U T W E ' L L G E T O V E R I T
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>>146057542
>>146057717

I thought you guys were going at it for reals, how boring. So, where are the monkeys going then? Dun dun DUN

Also screenshot of monkey army squid please. You know you want everyone to know!
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>>146057939
I D O N ' T R E A L L Y R E M E M B E R W H A T H E H A D A N D I C A N ' T M A K E A S C R E E N S H O T R I G H T N O W S I N C E I ' M P L A Y I N G G A Y G A M E S , M A Y B E L A T E R
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For celtic presence in the game, EA has Fomoria, Tir na n'Og and Maverni. MA has Man, Eriu, Ys, but LA just has..Man. And LA Man has a weaker celtic influence than MA Man did, which itself was the least celtic of the MA 'celtic' factions.

LA welsh-scottish pastiche faction when?
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>>146058142

Tell me whats his bless at least, I dont think I actually ever saw it. N9 something?
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>>146060696
I ' D L E T Y O U K N O W I F I R E M E M B E R E D
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Extension please. Life has taken a massive shit on me and I need time to sort it out. 24 hours should be enough
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>>146060890
I will grant your request, peasant.
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>>146055441
For points of light, post in the thread as well.
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>tfw getting out of bed and doing double turns
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ded
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>>146064457
As ded as poor Marignon
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Sorry I've been staling, personal stuff. Could the admin set me to AI or find a sub or something?
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WTF IS HAPPENING
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>>146069804
A massive difference in troop quality?
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>>146069804
What did they cast? What was the bless?
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Really spooky.

BoT y/n?
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>>146069804
36 sacreds + 80 real troops vs 15 sacreds + garbage

Both supported by 5 mages
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>>146070115
If I see any dire portents there is going to be hell to pay.
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>>146069804
Lanka is at the precipice of becoming untouchable even if every other nation suddenly became controlled by a single expert player and you two are fooling around, that's what's happening.
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>>146070680
Stop trying to draw attention away from yourself, Yomi.
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>>146070115
That tends to happen.
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>>146070730
Sorry, I meant Yomi.
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Sauromatia, I attacked you because of my alliance with Maverni. Its not really a personal invasion as I was more focused on Abysia but you know - like in Toy Story 'I got a friend in need...'

I'm gonna keep spamming troops onto your provinces. But my hearts not really into it, so if you present me with a sum of gold maybe 500 I'll cease hostilities and leave. Don't attack Mavenri. Go north or east instead.
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>>146060696
Hear no evil
Speak no evil
See no evil
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>>146069804
That looks like helheim lost a ton of troops in a hilariously uneven fight to me.
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>>146070978
Hey, mind jumping into the chat for a sec?
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>>146072016
This man is not your friend
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>>146072016
Sorry I can't, about to go to sleep. Find my steam profile from the original sign up thread and drop me a message.
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>>145978000
>Memegeddoniii - Altantis
>Ediblegloves - R'lyeh
>Fattenedcalf - R'lyeh
Daily Reminder that I would like the admins of these games to please change the email address back to akhern2 at yahoo
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>>146042856

Sorry, I got super tired last night and went to bed early. If you are who I think you are, then go ahead and do the thing that you want to do. I'm fine with it.
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>>146070115
>>146070802
Why do people send all of these threatening messages? What does it do but make people gang up on you?
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>>146079235
I'm not sure if I'm getting paranoid or everyone in this game is out to get me
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>>146080351
top bantz
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>>146071380
Yea I fucked up. My asshole sacreds thought it was more important to run down undead chaff than mages when they had a clear path to them.
>>146070058
His mages spammed Agony.

>>146070680
>>146070730
And yea they're rolling, we'll probably be fucked in 10 turns.
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>>146080351
Roleplaying is fun.
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Midgard staled again. REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146080763
>My asshole sacreds thought it was more important to run down undead chaff than mages when they had a clear path to them.
Always sucks when that happens.

You could do with a lot more mage support, though. I don't know how early it is, but if Lanka was fielding a decent quantity of undead (i.e. at least 5x your troops) you'd be in big trouble.
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Is EA Abysia bad, or am I just bad?
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>>146080351
Well, Flatus Lemuria made adming ragequit and end the game, so...
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>>146082039
Abysia is low tier.
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>>146080376

Lol. Chances are it's a little bit of both. My paranoia right now is through the god damn roof. Doesn't help that my fucking dryads can't do the one job they were hired to do, even with cat charms.
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>>146082171
Does it still count as a Lemuria win?
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>>146082203
>>146082039

But you are probably bad, too
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>>146082039
They're very strong in small games (i.e. blitzes) where they can make heavy use of their amazing cap-only stuff.

In a typical PBEM game with 8+ people, they need to start using their rec-anywhere mages (poor) and troops (good until fire resist, but much weaker than their sacreds) and won't perform well.
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Next time you decide to fuck with me.
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>>146083610
try it faggot
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>>146082171

He did? That'd be news to me.

Life is making me want to ragequit, but it doesn't have anything to do with Lemuria.
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>>146085231
It was the FIRST Flatus where Lemuria (with some help) cast BoT stupidly early which caused the admin to end the game with the messae "BoT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".
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Still looking for a sub. Anyone up to the task? I can fill you in on the details of my situation if you want.
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bump
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YOU PIECE OF SHIT LANDSTEALING NAZI FIFLTH, I OUGHT TO SHOVE MY IRON BOOT SO FAR UP YOUR ARSE YOUR BREATH SMELLS OF SHOE POLISH.
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>>146092350
Chill out Urist.
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Marignon, are you around?
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>>146086373
Don't forget Gath jewing everyone out of their pearls.
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>>146098396
Both were hilarious memes

Also Marignon there was bro tier, why are Marignon players always like that?
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>>146098513
Because they play a subpar nation.
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>>146100952
and i'm pretty sure you play MA Ermor and Lemuria, don't you? ;^)
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yo midgard you got problems? I can find a sub, if you stall again ur getting replaced
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>>146101389
I'm
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>>146100997
I find them fun to play, but have not played them in about a year.
Are you memeing me or do you think Marignon is a good nation?
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>>146098513
>>146101940
Playing Marignon requires an understanding that you are playing a nation that Illwinter has made complete trash, and, simultaneously, a dedication to roleplaying because MA Mari is among the coolest thematic nation. Mari players rarely play to win, they play because it's enjoyable to play as Mari.


illfraud pls gib mari N. thnx
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>>146102487
How would N help Mari?
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>>146102487
Is what I was trying to imply, but was too lazy to type it all out.
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>>146102746
All their mages die of aids because they're crippled old men by default, and then fire magic reduces their lifespan even further.
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>>146101940
Marignon is a bad nation, but you sound like a popkill nation enabler.
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>>146102746
Have you tried recruiting Grandmasters, your only reliable source of anything outside of F (and communion abilities), the literal worst path?

Do you know how fucking much they die of old age? Also, base precision 8 on an F mage.
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>when you're playing Marignon and Ermor casts BoT
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>>146103573
DEUS VULT
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>>146104463
More like DEUS V
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>>146103573
That's what you get for postponing the Holy Crusade.
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Where did Marignon even spring from?

Yes they were once part of Ermor but which EA nation were they based on?
You don't just go from Roman legions into Reconquista just like that.
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>>146105732
Marverni.
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>>146105943
wait what?

can someone confirm this?
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>>146106904
Read the manual.
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>>146106904
m8
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>>146106904
Is true can confirm
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>>146106904
Someone showed the same ignorance in a thread a few days ago. Is this a thing now?
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>>146106904
dude, do you even play this game?
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>>146104463
>'D-deus Vu- *Cough* *Hack*'
>'That's right, holy father. Deus vult, yes, but you have to take it easy. Your heart isn't what it used to be.'
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>>146107294
To be fair, there's zero mechanical connection between Marv and Mari. The two nations are basically completely different.
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>>146106904
When Ermor fucked up the Marvernites reorganised into a holy crusade to fight the undead, same as Sceleria and to a lesser extent Pythium.
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>it's a terrible idea to take luck as Mari generally when there's so much other shit you need
>the only early-game way they have of healing at all is a hero with heal and diseaseheal

They might be tremendously powerful mages with the ability to incinerate hundreds of filthy undead with the sweep of a hand, but APPARENTLY THEY CAN'T FUCKING LIVE PAST FORTY
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>>146107967
>...what it used to be last month.
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>>146108169
This is great
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>>146108149
Theoretically, you can also take Titan of Serpents and Medicine for diseaseheal3. But it's an even worse idea probably.
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>>146108169
I never saw this edit. Well done.
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>>146108117
Sorta. Sceleria was the faction that was proactively trying to stop the Ermorpocalypse and in doing so caused the prophecy to be fulfilled. The thaumaturgs were already organized into their own separate thing from the augurs with their own emperor, hence the civil war
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>>146108426
Even as Marignon, nation of dead-at-thirty mages, it's a bad idea to build a pretender around healing. Morepretenders gives you some options to take decent pretenders that can heal.
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>No 'Yu the Great' hero for TC
Why does Illwinter hate civil engineers?
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>>146108149
Just rush Fairy Court
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So, guys.

I played this game (and Dom3, and even Dom1 a long time ago) for around 4 years, including SP. And you know what?

I just realized that Behemoth spell just summons an undead elephant and not "binds the mage's spirit to the Behemoth, and all of the mage's energies are used in controlling and preserving the beast, he or she is unable to cast spells".

I was living a lie all this time.
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>>146108801
Which leads us to >>146102487 again. Mari needs N.
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>>146108801
>Just rush a Conj 8 spell which requires paths you don't have using income you don't get

Excellent suggestion anon, I see a new meta forming already
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>>146108909
It's even more infuriating because Marverni, their EA form, WAS A FUCKING N NATION
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>>146108983
Well, generally speaking, every sufficiently uncivilized nation in Dominions gets decent N access. Mar* should have never left their woods.
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>>146109171
Ermor didn't give them a lot of choice.
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A single N2S1 cap-only StR mage could bring Mari from low-mid tier to high tier. That's actually all they'd need to branch out of the quagmire of having norituals with only F and the few 2A/2E grandmasters they get dying in under a year. With a shot into N Mari could bring the crusade hardcore.
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>>146108864
I've always assumed the mage controlling the Behemoth is the guy who sits on top of it. Who's probably, uh, some sort of an apprentice of a guy who's casting the spell?
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>>146109386
What a life.
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>>146109351
What A2/E2 Grandmasters? You have like a 1% chance of them rolling those paths.
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>>146108391
>>146108445
Thanks, I'll let domgoons know you enjoy their memes.
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>>146108864
Wait what the shit. It may not still be very good but I'm going to have to actually give this a shot instead of just immediately dismissing it out of hand.
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>>146109834
This was my exact reaction.
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>>146109692
The ones you get with the fantastical luck that Illwinter expects you to get when you're playing Marignon. I mean, surely they wouldn't give us a nation that has no effective strength in any path other than F, right?
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>>146109670
Look at it this way: if he's a mage apprentice, he must be a huge nerd. So he's probably a virgin. Riding an elephant seems better than being sacrificed to summon demons, doesn't it?
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>>146109947
To be fair, you can communion with Witch Hunters fairly well to get Grandmasters with high paths in-combat. For rituals though, you're completely fucked.
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>>146108945
Well, if you're going for an Angel strat you might already have N9 and be going down Conj.
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>>146109834
>>146109906
Wait, what? You guys thought that casting the spell consumes the mage?

Behemoths have niche uses as tramplers that don't route (flight vs unprepared enemies, walking through an army to target mages when they are a different unit type from the rest of the army) but they also work well as fat HP evo soaks. For instance, they will draw all of the mindblasts to themselves if you're lacking ghouls and want an alternative to letting your commanders get targeted
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>>146110205
It'd probably be imprisoned, so by the time it gets released half your grand masters would already have cancer in their everything
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>>146110275
>Wait, what? You guys thought that casting the spell consumes the mage?
Yeah, you know, maybe like IT FUCKING SAYS IN THE DESCRIPTION.
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>>146109386
Yeah, the little dude on the elephant is the mage.
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>>146110380
The former elephant is preserved in a state of perpetual decay by a revenant mage who constantly fuels the Behemoth with energies from the Underworld.

The spell summons the revenant
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>>146110648
In my defence, I'm not the only one who was confused by that description.
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>>146108087
This.

Sorry for disappointing that many people, but the nations are literally different.


>>146108117
It makes sense. Thanks a lot.
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>>146110648
If the spell is to be believed, the whole elephant animation costs only 1 death gem since revenants cost 9 by themselves.

Also, revenants have 110 undead leadership and I didn't know this
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>>146110794
"Orphaneater, my slave.

You are reanimated now. You must choose what to do with your power.

Will you lead 110 longdead warriors to conquer the land of the living?

Or this single undead elephant?"
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>>146110275
I was explicitly warned by another player to never cast it and so never have cast it. Fucks sake.
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>>146111554
They're usually an inefficient use of D gems to be fair vOv
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>>146111428
Tons of nerds lead longdead. Only badasses get to ride an elephant
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>>146111554
>10 D gems, the most valuable gemtype with the least availability and the best summons (fuckin' tarts among so much other good shit), for a single goddamn elepehant
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>>146110648
>As all of the mage's energies are used in controlling and preserving the beast, he or she is unable to cast spells.

This is the part that confused me, especially since it comes at the end of the description and, since I read this when I was knew and didn't really have a point of reference for "revenant" I thought that "the mage" must have been referring to the caster.
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>>146112171
Would be cool if your D9 pretender lost ability to cast because he controls fucking elephant.
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>>146112502
Why did I read that in a russian accent
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>>146113304
domg has a relatively large slavic population
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>>146113304
How the hell did you do that? I'm from Russia.
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>>146113606
Your writing style is different from how a native English speaker would say it. It would be something along the lines of "It would be funny if your D9 pretender lost the ability to cast because he is controlling a fucking elephant"
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>>146113976
Make sense. But still, I guess that not only russians speak broken english.
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>>146114413
Different languages have different grammatical differences from English.
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>>146113976
blyat
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>>146112502
>>146113304
>>146113606
>>146113976
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>>146114645
See, this is a bad example, because that doesn't sound like a Russian speaking English
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>>146114557
Make sense again. I think articles is especially hard to use correctly for Russians. Maybe it's just for me though.
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What do you spend a glut of water gems on as MA TC? Talking like 20+ per turn
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>>146116712
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>>146117005
but that's only 60 water gems. I'll have that in just 3 turns
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>>146117181
Less, actually, if I don't need to forge anything else and end up using my hammers for them

I'm looking into living mercury and green lions, but both are relatively cheap in gems compared to the mage turns needed for them. My only WE and WF mages are my cap only dudes
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>>146116712
A legion of living mercury
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>>146117510
I like living mercury, but that takes up a CM or Alchemist a turn for each one

I'm considering just empowering some geomancers or other E1 mages to be dedicated summoners. I'm also considering empowering an F random alchemist to summon up green lions.
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>>146113606
Russians tend to drop articles (a, an, the) when they use english, especially written english. This is because russian doesn't have those grammatical elements. It's not the only language that does that, but it's one of the more obvious due to how russians learn english.

I'm a first gen american, family is from russia
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>>146118754
What secrets did they sell?
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>>146118754
I'm third gen; is all of domg ethnically Russian?
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>>146118616
>>146117181
>>146116712

This is the game in which you test Internal Alchemy for the rest of us
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>>146118616
Never empower shitty mages into magic paths, it's a horrible waste of gems.
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>>146119173
Well, it would let me summon mercuries/lions without needing my StR cap mages to each spend a turn on each summon. What else should I spend it on? Vengeful Water? Give every shitty Master of the Way 20 W gems in boosters?
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>>146118754
Interesting, that makes a lot of sense to me.

>>146118938
We have a lot of brits as well.
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>>146119398
We've got at least one aussie, some civilian-caste canadians, and a bunch of yanks too
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>>146119375
forge ten trillion bottles of living water, and yes, boosters are also good. Falling Frost and Ice Strike are both good evos, and simply spamming living water is also a good strategy. Liquefy can be scary too if your enemy isn't expecting it.
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>>146119375
Trade for 50 Death gems, empower a Celestial Master in death, cast Stygian Waters.

Also, get an UW province, bishop fish are well worth it.
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>tfw original russian donut steel
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>>146119727
>civilian-caste canadians
I knew Canada had a large Hindu population, but damn
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>>146120154
No, as in Canadians are genetically split somehow, into warrior and civillian, the civillians being the nice polite ones, the warrior ones being those who play hockey and are responsible for the astonishingly long list of warcrimes Canada has done in conflicts.
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>>146120361
That's a myth. They're actually the same people, it's just that their queen feeds them warrior jelly when she needs them to be aggressive.
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>>146120361
but all the hockey players I know are hella polite
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>>146120536
Oh, so like how some social insects do it. That makes sense, thanks.
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Is there any point in using stygian rain if your facing human enemies? I feels like you only use if it you are facing primarily undead armies
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>>146120536
You've got it backwards, she just stops feeding them the docile jelly, which is made from the sap of the sugar maple.
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>>146120793
If you have magic weapons and they don't
ex: LA Atlantis casts it every fight
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>>146120903
this is true.
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>>146120793
Why would using it vs undead be at all helpful?
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>>146121830
Stygian rains doesn't give invulnerability to undead.
Read the spell description.
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>>146118616
Assuming you're not at war, just use your cap-only mages for it.

20 water gems per turn is only 10 mages, and it's not like they'll be doing anything vital in peacetime. Green Lions are worth spending a mage-turn each on.

Living mercuries are in roughly the same situation.
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>>146121830
Because your living troops will get invul 15 and skellies won't?
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>>146122006
>peacetime
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>>146122846
There is no peacetime, only war, and cold war.
Also, everyone next to me staled again. Level with me here, is it me?
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>>146125263
Yes.
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>>146125263
Its a sign that you should murder them and end their staling ways
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>>146098373
Yeah im here. Whattup?
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I've also figured out why the meme was only 2000 ghosts in a fort. It's cause when you have too many more the lag tends to actually crash the game.
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>>145811787
what magic site frequency do you play on in your mp games? in your sp games?
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>>146129304
Default, usually. Although I personally prefer to have it a bit higher, especially in LA.
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>>146125925
can you get in the steamchat?
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>>146128201
Why isn't it called spritefight?
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>>146125925
>>146129986
Nevermind, i'm going to bed.

I'll try to reach you tomorrow.
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>>146118886
Jump in chat and I'll tell you.
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>Forgot that wolves arent skeletons
>starved like a thousand of them to death

I guess animal cruelty is not the worst thing i've done.
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What does Blood even have for anti-army battlecasting? Bloodletting, I guess? The spell that's almost as easy to hard counter as fire evocations and much more expensive to cast.

I know that Blood's main strength is in the summoning and I'm making full use of that but I'm just wondering if I'm missing something here.
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>>146134832
you killed imyt's dog, you're a monster
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>>146134964
Nothing.

At best you can horrorbomb and communion into agony, but for combat usage blood is primary buffs, debuffs and sniping targets.
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ded
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>>146134964
If you're a nation with tons of cheap B1 mages, you can spam leech. It makes for excellent artillery. It hits 1 square per cast rather than 1 unit, so it works better in army v army situations than you'd think by reading it. The fact that it partially reinvigs the caster means that even low level mooks can spam it.
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>>146125263
Who's next to you? Maybe they can get a sub.
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Sum1, if you're reading this, I've found a way how to remove items from liches after they transform. No need for #firstshape. Unfortunately, the only way to do this is with an assassination. Fortunately, liches are immortal and will immediately respawn. Here's what it looks like:


#newevent
#id 900
#rarity 5
#req_rare 0
#req_pop0ok
#req_targhumanoid 1
#req_targpath5 5
#req_targitem 600
#msg "This shit actually worked."
#nolog
#transform 178
#deathboost
#assassin 4002
#end

---- UNITS
#selectmonster 4002
#copyspr "Vastness"
#copystats "Vastness"
#name "Ritual Backlash"
#batstartsum5d6 4001
#descr "You done goofed, fuckboy."
#end

#selectmonster 4001
#copyspr "Vastness"
#copystats "Vastness"
#name "Ritual Backlash"
#descr "You done goofed, fuckboy."
#end
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>>146138730
Also, wishing for those bad boys will result in version 4001 (regular vastness) because of its ID number. I thought about everything.
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Hey, sorry to stale, I'm too busy for a quick moving meme storm. I found a sub, admin, you out there?
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>>146139219
I'm here, hit me up with that e-mail.
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>>146139276
erfsnek at gmail
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>>146139982
Done.
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>>146140280
Got it, thanks.
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>>146135047
I killed a single dog
>hundreds of my sickly wolves got set on fire this turn
Dominions is merely a contest of who can commit a biggest war crime.
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Rise my /domg/. Thou shalt not die
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Let's talk about research priorities for Burritos.

Bery's in the interesting position of being able to do most anything. They CAN go Enchantment and cast flaming arrows on their oodles of archers and get earth buffs for melee units. They CAN go evocation and put together a modest t-strike team. They CAN go cons for legions of steel and blood items and boosters (or even quills if they feel like burning air gems to accelerate their already excellent research, but I wouldn't). Eventually they'll need blood for their lategame power, and while I imagine that it will come online later, the question is when. And yes, of course it depends, but when do you want what?
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>>146147052
>tfw domg doesn't like talking about Dominions
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>>146148156
Domg likes sleeping, which all civilized people are doing right now.
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>>146147052
Here's your checklist:
If you've got wastelands right near you get blood and seirs asap or you'll get rolled by first person with good troops.
If you don't have wastelands right near you get flaming arrows for the same reasons as wastelands. Then proceed into blood anyway for demon knights and storm demons, it will take a lot of time to build an army of them but berry really needs any source of good troops.
If you've got multiple coastal forts proceed with storm + stormpower.
Once you have demon production in progress, it's alteration and more alteration.
If there are no other major blood nations getting deeper into blood is a great option to get some thugs and diversity (key points are S, W/D, B/D unique summons and vampire lords) . If there are, deeper blood can wait a long time.

Conjuration as a lategame option, deep construction once you have alt 7 (for boosters) or blood thugs.
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If a unit is storm immune, does that mean it can use a bow in storm normally, or does it only affect flying?
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Rise again!
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>>146152916
Both.
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Play your turns
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Is there anything that makes Eriu something besides a worse Tir na n'og?
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>>146157041
No
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Sorry about muscling into your capring there, friend Scleria. I was just hurtling towards the farmland available. It's much too costly for me to relinquish, but we are good allies against darkest evil, and I'll gladly toss you some gold if you need it.

By the way, did anyone else receive these horrendous dead man's coins from the great enemy? I'm considering burning it in a great fire to the Lord, and will take any others that were sent for the offering.
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ded
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STALEGEDDON
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>>146162907
THE MEMES
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Squid you promised me Kailasan army and bless. Be a nice water monstrosity and deliver.

And Helheim why are you scaring us all about Lanka? It looked like you started sieging his cap this turn, whats going on?
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Come sign up for Magic Enhanced LA!

https://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/1/358415206091355341/
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>>146163462
He hasn't exactly seen much of my army.
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Any non meme games recruiting/starting?
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>>146167543
my ass
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>>146138730
Coolstory you are a fucking MADMAN, I approve.
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>>146169460
get the fuck off 4chan
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>>146167543
been waiting a couple of days, still 0 nonmeme games
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>>146169773
Well, when I wake up if nobody has made one I will.
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>>146169654
I wasn't joking
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MyAss
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>>146125263

No, it's definitely me. If anyone wants to take over C'tis (temporarily or permanently) I'm likely to be sparse for the next couple weeks.
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Play your turns
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>>146173797
keep unintelligent canines on a leash
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>>146134964
Harm at high B is strong. 4+2 AoE per level for 2+1 AN damage per level. Also chest wounds.
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>>146170738
As bats can't find their ass with both hands, I have a fraction of the income (money and gems) of anyone else and there hasn't been a turn in the last 20 where Lemuria was not complaining about the hours it takes for him to do the sodding turn, I vote to call it quits.
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This is a casual reminder that removing Pan is a public fucking service and you all should be grateful that you're not the ones having to put up with this rage-inducing shit.

I will be accepting your "thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment" now.
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>>146176187
thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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>>146176187
thank you bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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>>146176187
thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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I woke up this morning and realized that there was a much easier solution to my problem than what I've been attempting.
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>>146177269
Don't do it, Anon! You have so much to live for!
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>>146177269
>>146177379
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>>146177379

Ha. I didn't realize that I had implied that. I literally meant that thought of a solution to a problem in one of my games and I feel fucking great
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>>146176187
thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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>>146176187
thank you Bogarus, you continue to draw attention from me and present a skewed view of the global power balance that is allowing me to achieve my goals unnoticed
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>>146178408
LEMURIA GO AWAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146178558
This.

>>146178408
I can only see one Grand lemur in Lemuria.
He is definitely saving for BoT you fools.
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Screw you, guys. First that faggot pan intentionally collides with me to take 2 provinces close to my capital, then that faggot atlantis suddenly tells everyone that I'm going to cast some globals that I wasn't even planning to research while attacking my poor non-sum1mod ghosts with shit weapons at the same time.

I can deal with Atlantis, but I swear to pantokrator, if someone else is gonna try to bully me, I'm rushing black death to nuke your capitals. And there are some nations that will surely benefit from BoT and Foul Air, you know. I tried to be a nice and friendly ghost, but you are transforming me into the Casper Meets Wendy movie.
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>>146179771
>third year of the ascension war
>trusting ghost ermor on any matters diplomatically
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>>146179771
>Build 9 Adjacent forts
>Not going to cast dick ass globals

Days without ghost tricks:0
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>>146179771
>plays a cancer nation
>gets mad that people want to remove cancer

Just stop playing.
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>>146180042
Fuck off, Atlantis.
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>>146180117
Well, you need to build many forts as both skellies and ghosts, and as you don't care about resources, it's easier to build them together. I do it as Rus all the time just to get fast mages and shit..
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>>146180289
>actually paid Illfraud for EA Rus Early Access DLC
One more reason to bully him.
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Are these things any good? Or just another overcosted Illfraud TM meme unit.
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>>146181072
The former if you use summod (especially as Helheim), the latter if you don't.
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>>146181072
Massable fear auras are never terrible
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>>146180143
That wasnt me, you Lemuriafag.

N I N E F O R T S

and only one grand lemur
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>>146181294
Look at those. Then look at Brood of Garm. Then look at those again.
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>>146181371
>and only one grand lemur
WHEN
DID
THIS
MEME
START

When I go home I'll fucking screenshot all my Lemurs and send it to you with a postcard. And It's not my fault I got 2 free forts while sitesearching.

Besides, if you're such a pro in this game, how many forts should Lemuria have at that turn? Huh? HHUUUUUH????
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Gentle reminder to Vanarus that you're going to stale soon and I would love to get a turn now.
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>>146169985
Is someone joining this?
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>>146181605
N I N E F O R T S


I don't know whether or not you are as pro as you say you are, but even if you weren't you are really scary anyway.
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Haven't played in quite a while, how's Ys ? They look good on the inspector.
Any changes I should be looking in, anything that happened since the UW update basically ?
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>>146179771
You're playing fucking Lemuria. You chose to play Lemuria, despite knowing reputation, you have no right to bitch about people removing you.

'But I was playing Ermor/Lemuria as friendly cancer nation guys! Stop bullying me!' is literally go-to excuse for cancer nations.
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>>146186732
Indeed, the only reason there was never a crusade against me was because of all the global panic about Bats in the Blood Plane.
That, and being surrounded by stalers and bads.
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>>146182371
Score graphs on, wut
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>>146175451

Did me casting VW rustle your jimmies so much that you want the game to just end? You can go ahead and quit if you want but I'm still interested in playing this to the end. I put too much time into it for it to just end like the last Latus game did.
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ded
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>>146189902
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>>146182184
I'm gonna be at work for three more hours.
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>>146176187
You missed the best part.
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>>146190397
This makes me sad.

>>146190779
Ouch.
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>>146187354
Heh, I lost a few scouts to that. Of course, it also took out GoH from C'tis, meaning I'm pretty confident I've superceded him entirely in threat.

Not sure how you're faring vs Patala, but I feel this might end in Ghosts vs Bats.
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>>146190779
thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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>>146186537
How long is quite a while? Ys is decent, intrinsic firebrands make their A2W1s stupidly good elf thugs, bless rushes work fairly well.
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>>146192257
Well, since a few months after the UW patch.
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>>146187354
Haven't even looked at the most recent turn, and by now you should have realised that if you were halfway competent I'd have been dead 50 turns ago rather than taking most of the water plane from you. When I get to a computer I'll post the last few turn files up here so everyone can see just how much of a farce this war has been.
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>>146192570
The one with Therodos? Therodos got nerfed into the ground by Illwinter, Mitclan and Xibablba now have UW frogs in LA, and still some uw units have ferrous weapons.
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>>146192891
Ah, nice to know. Thanks friend, I'll study all that a bit.
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>>146190779
thank you Bogarus, you continue to martyr yourself so that we may live in harmony and contentment
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>holding off from fighting since I'll have to script all my stuff
>I'll probably lose anyway
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Remember that time you didn't remove Lemuria in a prompt manner? Flatus remembers.
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2000 swans in a fort
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delicious candy
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>>146201874
Is this Ultima Online?
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MA Aelfwar is finally finished, after hours and hours of debugging to eventually find that I had been a total moron in the most obvious of ways that should have been fixed within 30 seconds.

Preliminary release here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/55ztmwitvwwy554/Aelfwar1.0.rar

Feedback is really appreciated, I'd like to get thoughts from you guys before I think about posting it on Dom4Mods.
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>>146201874
decay is a helluva drug
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>>146203480
You also did the 'human court death nation', right?

I just wanted to tell you on the death lich nation that, while a great idea, it's fucking broken as hell. Taking death 3 means that your income goes down the tubes hardcore FAST, no matter how much you conquer. And while your troops are cheap, the upkeep for mages means you're talking 500-600 gold upkeeps quick. It's a race to always conquer more territory because what you have keeps losing value, and you always need more mages. Combined with the fact that you never have enough gold to field proper armies or get hardcore building up...
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>>146205448
Yeah. The issue I ran into is that death scales are just SO FUCKING BAD that no matter how much shiny stuff I give Mathosia as a reward for taking death scales, they are always, ALWAYS going to be fighting a horrible and crippling game mechanic. 1.3 actually somewhat fixes this by reducing the base goldcost

Ideally, the nation would punish life scales as opposed to rewarding death scales, meaning that taking a solid 0 would be a good choice, but apparently that's not possible.

The other alternative is to give it #spreaddeath so that you are free to take growth scales, and you will even have positive growth most of the time, but it will feel like you are fighting against your own dominion, which is fairly thematic. Does that seem like an acceptable solution to you?
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>>146205874
You basically have to take growth scales no matter what, so that might make sense. Perhaps it could be fluffed that while 'population' is increasing, it's in fact undead labor working for the eternal court a la scleria?

I loved actually playing the nation - working with the various nobles and lords was fun as fuck (though I'd suggest maybe adding an 'intermediate' level between the petty lord and the hyper-expensive big guys, like Pythium's communicant-theurg-arch theurg, both for fluff and practicality), but the actual mechanics have to be swapped about a bit.
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>>146203480
It seems okay, my concerns with it is that the lab rat and mages are really expensive whilst also having less utility than the other "elf" nations like vanheim, since they can't thug nearly as well with their N2 mounted guy (what's he supposed to do aside from lead troops?). They have a lot of A2's without being able to cast storm, which is another thing that's weird, although I do see that they have some national N battle spells which might be useful. The sacred seems fine, if a little underpowered for being cap only. The treants I could see being potentially quite strong but they would take a while to mass and seem like less strong agarthan statues because of their fire weakness, despite having two attacks. I think you could make the boglings size 1 without too much issue, they'd basically be worse vaetti at that point.
Also, what paths does the faerie invoker have?
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>>146205448
I found their mages fine (on the first version, didn't try later patches). The 135g with chances at A2/F2 has a decent price for both research and combat, and you just use the death mages sparingly because of their cost. Reanimation helps a lot, their mages would be too weak if they didn't have that to provide cheap chaff.

I agree about scales though. Worst part is that death recruitment doesn't change upkeep, so after a year or so the effect of it tends to be minimal.
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>>146208018
Oh, I wasn't saying the petty nobles are shit or anything. Just that it might be useful to have something between them and the crazy good StRs. I suppose they could be seen as the intermediate between death priests, however.
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pmub
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>>146212921
Change it to "...if you don't actually mod them", and you'll understand my pain.
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>>146213180
Ludorth and/or Coolstory get back to work work
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ROTP Pan, can you hop into the chat?
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>>146190397
Let's say about 15 minutes to get everything wrapped up and get out the door, 30 ish minute commute hopefully, that means you'll be done very very soon, right?
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>>146216573
You sneaky bastard. Sending in your turn in the few minutes it took me to slap that image together.

You're the best Vanarus a skeleman could ever wish for.
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>>146216748
>146216748
Working on doing a double too. Unfortunately my heroically obese prophet is in enemy dominion, so I don't know who to send to the arena.
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>>146215776

I'll be there probably for the rest of tonight
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What if we give all human-sized archmages and stuff innate caster 2?
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>>146218571
Sure, why not
Anything to make them more fun
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>>146218571
They would become the new meta, as actually viable supercasters (considering that empowering and items only work to a certain point and there's no possible way to get innate caster)
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>>146219154
Well, I wouldn't say that, but they will at least be viable as in "actually used in MP by anyone who's not retarded or Cirno". There's not that many awful things you can do with 2 spells per round that you can't do with 1 and multiple casters. Well, maybe 4 RoS'es. But then again, those guys are size 2 weaklings. Deploy the assassins.
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>>146218571
Would be a nice buff, but I don't think it'd really fix the issues with them.

Just don't do it to the immortal human-sized casters like liches.

>>146219154
How often do you see people actually use their pretenders in fights? Especially human-sized pretenders?

Why would they start doing it just because the pretender can cast two spells per round?
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>>146219423
>>146219489
Innate caster 2 = 3 spells per round, because you get your one normal spell as well, unless I'm retarded. Am I retarded? I'm 99% sure Monoliths and the like have innate caster 1.
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>>146219489
>Just don't do it to the immortal human-sized casters like liches.
YEEEESSS
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>>146219620
Nah, you see, innate caster 1 just lets you cast 1 (one) spell along with your normal attacks in melee (when enemies are near your monolith, for example). Because otherwise you either attack or use the spell. Innate 2 gives you 2 spells and so on. You can easily test it by giving your monolith some evos and trying to spam them. It'll cast 1 per round.
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>>146218571
I really like the idea of supercasters as opposed to just summoning the biggest monster and throwing tons of gear on it. I think they deserve to be a viable endgame option.

>>146219874
It also allows creatures to cast spells when in melee combat, which they otherwise won't do.
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>>146214619
On it, boss.

Mathosia 1.3 and Aelfwar 1.1 tommorow.

Lantern Hook 1.0 someday.
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>>146221129
It's actually kind of baffling that Supercasters are so completely not viable, considering how the game works.
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>>146221650
Because there's so many ways they can be made completely useless or crippled, more easily than other kinds of pretenders

Staying for more than one round in melee combat with any kind of soldier
An assassin getting lucky
a stray arrow or evocation
a random event
A number of afflictions

Mostly, it's that they're just one vulnerable unit that isn't as good for blesses as other pretenders and can only do one thing per turn.
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>>146221650
Liches can be good with spooky nations. But only because they have so many points to dump.
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Play your turns
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>>146224057
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>>146224485
Since when do foxes eat wolves?
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>>146224896
since time immortal
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>>146192738

With you as anally ravaged as you are, I must've been doing something right ;^)

>>146191123

Patala is kind of a joke, tbqh
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>>146228393
If I cared about this game, I wouldn't have joined as R'lyeh
https://www.dropbox.com/s/15mz8ai3t5rtqnv/late_rlyeh.trn?dl=0
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ded
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>>146228393
Should I fire up the world engine and make the globe esplode then?
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friendly reminder to update the wiki.
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Hey Sauromatia how are you holding up? Wanna call it quits yet? I can go at this all week.

I was really surprised to see a D9 bless on your guys.
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>>146236752
>Wanna call it quits yet?
Hold on, I thought you attacked him, not the other way around?
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MonsterMashMadness
Reminder to send your BIGGEST MONSTER for the MONSTER MASH
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>>146237036
He attacked Maverni, who I had allied with since about the 2nd turn due to shared capital rings
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C'mon /domg/, just a little bit longer and we'll finally hit the post limit.
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>>146240746
the sweet embrace of warranted death.... is it time?
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Bye, domg.
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>>146241617
>beating machaka

wew i bet you must be really proud
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>>146241617
>bragging about killing machaka
Do you kick puppies often?
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>>146241863
To be fair, Machaka is more like a duckling so ugly you just have to hit it than a puppy.
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>>146241852
>>146241863
Yo, Arco's got some good stuff but it's not like they're the giant OP or anything. Machaka's got some tools, Arco probably managed to outmage him hard. Don't beat the guy up for enjoying his win
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>>146242110
Machaka is spear-chucking nigger tier. Only a master autist can lead them to victory against upper mid-tier nations like Arco.
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>>146242667
I'll have you know that EA Machaka was so OP that Illwinter themselves had to nerf them recently.

Think on that. No nerfs on Xibalba, but Machaka got nerfed. Whose the OP one now, huh?
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>>146242837
Probably because some machakans raped their wives or something. Sweden yes.
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>>146242837
This. Rhino Clan was dominating the meta. Hopefully we'll see less examples of Machaka players rushing their closest neighbour and snowballing into yet another Machaka win.
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>>146242837
>exclusive picture of illwinter offices
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>>146242837
They also nerfed Vanheim's sacreds harshly (otherwise known as fuck research lmao I have sacreds the nation), and Therodos, the noted most OP meta-nation of /domg/.
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>>146052269
dude you know he aint wearing a thong for no reason.
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How slow do dudes in/outside of battles accumulate xp? I want to make some cool mage evolutions with #xpshape.
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>>146243920
more

bulge
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>assassinated all the adepts in the Golden Order province so that I wouldn't have to deal with SIze 6 Fire Elementals this early on, as a nation with not only no W, but a huge fire focus and fire bless
>last commander in province is a Watcher
>assassin runs up to him before he can fire his lightning
>starts chipping away slowly at the helpless watcher
>no melee attacks, so watcher can't do shit as the assassin slowly kills him
>assassin gets him down to 11 hitpoints from 75 with his dagger
>suddenly freezes up
>runs the fuck away
>never seen again
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>>146244052
ask and ye shall recieve
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>>146244790
nicesssssss
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>>146244790
more
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and thus dominions 4 r34 page was finally created
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>>146244975
here we go
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oh boy, post limit

mods can't stop us now
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