/twg/ - Total War General

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So no patch today?

also post TW related images please I feel like watching old battles and campaigns

>>145803170
who are you playing as, OP?

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first for trve roman bread for trve romans

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I must remove Slaanesh for their poor taste in tentacles

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>>145803324
NO SHAFT FLIES TRUER THAN OURS

Chosokabe strong!

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5th for hussars

>>145803476
Chosokabe knows everything about shafting men, it's true

>>145803476
>literal sniper japs

>>145803531
I never got what Hussars are. are they for charging? are they light harrasing cav or what?

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GIVE ME OSPREY MENES

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Man Chaos was easy to win with. Only hard difficulty, but still by the time i was done with the varg the empire had nearly died to vamps.

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>>145803324
Prussia

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>>145803643
they're just poles on horses m8

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>>145803170
>Be Sikh
>Just finish playing some FOTS as glorious Saga
>Decide to re-watch last samurai(inaccurate as fuck but fun to watch)
>Invite father to watch along with me
>He loves it
>Comes to the scene where Nobutada gets his hair forcibly cut off.
>Look over to dad.
>Tears in his eyes.

I wasn't ready for this.

>>145803724
>full monstermash army
>positive income
what the fuck?

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>TW: Loli edition

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nth for big black orcs

>>145803946
do you guys lose any of your powers if you lose your hair?

that's pretty sad tho

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>>145803643
They're light cavalry but any cavalry would charge shit in those days if they thought they could get away with it.
>so I told them to charge the enemy fleet and they actually did it the absolute madmen

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>>145804162
>mage with no particle effects

>>145804052
>No upkeep mod :^)

This is 90% of the people who beat legendary

>>145804296
>>145804052

I wasn't using mods. My camp was rank 5, i think that lowers the upkeep cost a bunch.

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>>145802126
Continuing from the last thread:

As it turns out, Vampires aren't so tough when you have higher tier units and a reasonably experienced commander.

>>145803324
Sadly no patch news yet.

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>>145803946
Sounds pretty sihkening.

>>145803717

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>>145803942
>they're just poles on horses m8
thought everyone used Hussars. Just thought Winged hussar was a special polish heavy variant

>>145804284
>>so I told them to charge the enemy fleet and they actually did it the absolute madmen
kek

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>>145804289
Are they supposed to have particle effects on higher graphical settings? I've only ever played on medium so I've never known, guess it's time to save up for a new gpu.

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Here's one of my more embarassing moments in TW

>>145803737
glorious Prussia

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>>145804743
Currently figthing Pooland

>>145803946
>>Look over to dad.
>>Tears in his eyes.
give him a pat on the back man.

also do you play Mughals or Maratha or UK in Empire TW?

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>multiplayer chaos unit prices

>>145804517
is gelt fun with the way magic sucks?

>>145803946
I don't undestand

I know nothing about sikh, sorry

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>tfw you have to give every unit a unique name

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>>145805441
Unmodded magic is kinda shitty, which is why I'm using a mod to fix it. That said, buff spells have their uses even in vanilla.

>>145805765
which mod?

>>145805765
Ho there, friend. You forgot to take off your trip.

>>145804056
Hachikuji legendary lord when?

>>145805916
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700746193
This one. It works really well so far as I can tell.

>>145803313
>with the mechanics of best-game

Enjoy half the game not working I guess

>fighting Kislev
>attacking Erengrad
>hellcannons blasting away at walls
>decide to listen in on Kislev soldiers
>"What do they know of Reiklanders?"
>"That's good Empire steel it is!"
>shields covered with twin-tailed comets
>"Sigmar preserve us!"

>>145806461
>he thinks voice recording is free

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>>145806429
>some people in this thread actually believe medieval 2 is the best game

How can people even justify this?

>>145806425
apreciate it m8

>>145806461
Hopefully Kislev will get some dlc. If not that, then hopefully some kind soul will give them some unique units.

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>>145805959
Please keep derailing the thread as opposed to posting actual content

>>145806710
Because it's not dumbed down crap like Warhammer?

https://youtu.be/Uv9fYQbCBUg

>>145806637
not him but having even Darren just do some bad russian accent would've been better than having kislev soldiers talk about Reikland

>>145806762
I merely informed him that he forgot to take of his trip.

To the people who played Attila:
what do the attributes Berserker and run amok (what triggers it) do?

>>145806637
nowhere did I even imply anything like this

That being said, they've used "generic barbarian voice guy" for 3 games in a row, so it's pretty lazy even of CA to be using empire lines for kislev.

>>145806762
Are grenades still a nice-looking but complete waste of time in Darth?

>>145803476
Is that the Master of Strategy mod?

>>145807181

You can prove laziness? Or is it just that they're trying to make a niche game for a niche market with limited funding because all of their previous games had mediocre sales at best and thus couldn't spare the time on such an insignificant detail?

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>this town is too hot
>my feet hurts
>I wish I was home with my harem

>>145806425
Now they just need to fix hit detection. Bombardment skills with multiple projectiles (most noticeably Searing Doom) can be overcasted and fired into a clump and still kill only a dozen guys at best.

>>145807379
yes, stacked all available +acc bonuses you can gather in one town

>>145806864
>implying I was comparing it to total war warhammer

Total war isn't made up of two games y'know? There are much better tw games than medieval 2. In fact it could be argued it's one of the worst mechanically wise since a lot of it is fucking broken.

Also that video is literally retarded.

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>>145806864
>49 minute video that could have made the same point in less than 4 minutes

Why?

>>145807613
Name 3 TWs objectively better than M2

>>145806963
>Berserker
you lose control of the unit and they attack any enemies in range and just goes after them. they become fully rested so in a way it's a good thing and I'm not sure but they might get a damage boost

>run amok
you lose control of the unit and it damages anything whilst running around like crazy. This is mostly an Elephant thing.
you have the option to kill the unit in case it's coming close to fucking up your own units but then you lose that elephant unit

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

>>145807295
They're turned off by default and I saw now reason to change it, that said, grenadiers are still a good elite unit of line infantry+

>>145807647
Empire, Shogun 2 and WH

>>145807647
kek take off your nostalgia glasses.

Rome 1, FotS and Attila.

>>145807451
nope, it's pretty much an even mix of laziness and greed at this point. At least the greed is understandable.

>>145807537
That mod is really fun, if only it wouldnt crash that much.

>>145807804
>Shogun 2
Weeb game
>Empire
Hot garbage

>>145807836
>Rome 1
No

>>145807647
On release? Napoleon, Shogun 2 and Attila. Although M2 did eventually mature into the best in the series it was only after a lot of bloody work.

>>145807647
Medieval 1
Rome 1
Napoleon
Shogun 2
Attila

You got one for every engine

>>145807864
So you're just mad at the world because you don't understand it.

Didn't expect to see that sentiment outside of /kspg/.

>>145807939
>setting is relevant to quality

>Rome 1

>literally the only downside compared to m2 is the graphics
>the rest of the game actually works
>"No"

You are an idiot

>>145806864
>i play total war SKILLFULLY

but none of the total wars require skill. whats the tldw; of this?

>>145807939
>shogun 2
>weeb
your opinion is already invalidated but lets continue

>empire
>hot garbage
broken as shit but so is medieval 2

>rome 1
unlike medieval 2 the mechanics in this game work

>>145808234
Pretty much

>muh M2 quran

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>>145808272
mad weeb detected

>>145808084
Darren go to bed. no point in arguing with people on 4chan

>>145808470
>boogeymen

Oh for fuck's sake.

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>>145808415
>he can't argue against facts so hes resorting to the weeb card

>>145808519
I'm agreeing with you mostly but again you're not gonna convince that other guy. he is dead set on CA being greedy fucks. you have nothing to gain by arguing with him over this.

just get CA to release Brettonia DLC and update magic ffs

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>>145808617
>doesnt even try to refute

calm down bro, dont stain your katana on us.

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>>145808751

>>145807673
thank you

Run Amok works when added to TWW units, still have to test Berserker

>hit image limit early because of anime/anti anime shitposting
>anti anime/anti trip ebin fighters already ate up several image slots

Just go to /b/

>>145806710
Maybe not the best but definitely my personal favorite, which would you say is the best and/or your favorite?

>>145808751
>>145809047
What are your fucking settings?

In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.

Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.

Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.

>>145809052
>Run Amok works when added to TWW units, still have to test Berserker
oh you're a based modder?

please add run amok to giants and the hellcanon if possible.
Iirc it can run amok in Warhammer tabletop

>>145809153
see >>145807836

>>145809153
Attila. Or, atleast it blows Med2 out of the water.

>>145809119
Go back to /a/ if you want to talk about Shogun 2, Persona or Kawata Shouju you massive weeb

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>garrison armies are 90% zombies
>they literally line the entire wall
>living fucking shits lose all their vigor hacking through endless mobs of shit tier units
>when they finally break through they face the free garrison units
VC is rad as hell

>>145809282
>liking Paradox: Total War: Spearman edition

Managing food and corruption sure is fun

>>145809329
>VC is rad as hell
agreed but I miss ranged units in defensive sieges.

dorfs was fun as hell just gunning down greenskins like crazy

>>145809194
I'm buying a new monitor very soon. If I resized them smaller, would it look better?

>>145809520
You could say the same of Rome 2, just a bunch of pikemen spamming, still a major improvement over med 2 though

vampirecount deathstar too strong.

>>145809248
Unfortunately, the cannon does nothing, only the crew gets the effects, giants running amok is a must tho

>>145809119
>Implying the anti____ are the problem
Tripfags deserve all the hate they can get tbqh

>>145806864
That video coming from the guy who gave TWW a positive review.

>>145810342
>chaos dwarfs runnig amok

Neat

>>145810554
wait he gave it a positive review and then made that?

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>>145809052
>>145807673
>Berserker
>you lose control of the unit and they attack any enemies in range and just goes after them.
So would that work for Knights Errant or is there another way to make them charge out of your control?

The hellcannon seems like a weird unit.
The actual cannon itself appears to be a unit with HP but obviously doesn't do anything without the chaos dwarfs, and you can't attack it either. Was it supposed to work like an elephant or something where it would run amok if it got attacked? I know in TT it would act more like an actual monster and would run around and eat things.

>>145810712
On steam, ya.

Is there still no mod that slows down combat?

>>145810712
Not only did he give it a positive review, but he says in the video he STANDS BY it. Then the next 48 autistic minutes are him just ranting about how arcadey and shit the new games are. Dude's retarded.

>>145811491
theres a slow mo button in the top right corner

>>145810554
It's possible to like a game but still have problems with its core systems compared to older titles.

Personally I regard napoopan and Shogun 2 to be the pinnacle of Total War games. Shogun 2 especially so. Attila and Warhammer are still very good, but agents are annoying and the army system removes certain degrees of strategy.

>>145811491
Look up the "Proper Combat" mod. Never used it, so I can't say anything about how it plays, but it's mission statement is to slow down the pace of battles.

>>145811747
>but agents are annoying

They were annoying in S2, too, though...

>>145811829
Not nearly as much because you could break up armies to avoid being stunlocked by them.

>>145805573
Post the names you use so I can steal them.

>Start Empire campaign
>Skullcrusherz invade with a 17 strong stack of Savage Orcs including two full strength boar boys while my main force is camped out in Eilhart
>The turn after the 12 unit strong Skullsmasherz were driven off

Yeah, I think I'm done with this game for now. The RNG with what the early game Orc tribes do is a pain in the ass

I mean, Savage Orc Boyz can already nearly 2v1 swordsmen.

>>145811491

There are a dozen mods that aim to make battles last longer. You're blind or retarded if you haven't found them.

>>145812042
>Skullcrusherz
>doing anything

Always feel odd hearing about this, it never ever happened to me. They were either wiped out before I actually got to them, or I wiped out their one defenseless city. Karak Norn seems like a much bigger problem than them.

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This was a difficult fight, but victory is mine and mousilion is broken.

>>145812303

How are those armies so big?

>>145812425
Startpos modding.

>>145812201

Maybe it's the Skullsmasherz. I always forget which is which, out of game. The Horde one with a blue-Green face as their faction symbol, anyway.

Karak Norn and Karak Ziflin have literally never been a problem for me in any campaign. In fact, I tend to make them my defensive allies. They're incredibly good attack dogs, and their tendency to destroy Bastonne makes for easy expansion.

>>145812042

Holy shit, are you me?

The greeny/blue orcs camped out in Reikland and stack up to 17 soldiers before invading Grunburg.

I couldn't leave to stop them because the white/red orcs were in range of Eilhart.

>>145812514
>he allies with literal Hitlers

But why? They do nothing but declare war on anything that isn't a dwarf, unless you yourself also play dwarf. They're the biggest shitheads in the game.

>>145812042
I usually see middenland and wissenland chasing down the orcs with a stack of their own.

>>145812042

Yeah, same shit happens to me so often. If I'm doing a no-reload run, it's a restart, because I can't be bothered playing catch up.

I'm pretty sure it's the skullsmasherz who use SAvage Orcs though. And they only rarely build up their forces. Normally, they just rush Grunburg with 6-8 units.

>>145810342
thanks for your work man. can you post itt when you upload it to the workshop?

>>145812825

That's why you keep a defensive alliance with them. They only rarely get war declared ON them, and they can't drag you into their offensive wars.

On the other hand, once the Chaos shit starts, you can send their armies up to the Skaeling settlements, since they automatically get dragged into that fight.

>>145809052
this please >>145810870
>So would that work for Knights Errant or is there another way to make them charge out of your control?

Can you make untis charge without orders like they could in medieval 2?

would be perfect for Brettonia, Chaos and Orcs

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Hey anons, first time playing a Total war game, I've eliminated all factions that were at war with me, I'm allied with everyone that's left, did I win the game? I have no quests left, what do? what even is the goal of this game? I had alot of fun regardless

>>145813838
did you complete the victory conditions?

>>145811747
Same guy here. I think what annoys me the most isn't the video cause he makes good points but it's his fans in the comments. They're legit retarted. Completely disregards what he says in the beginning of the video and act like med 2 is best thing since sliced fucking bread while shitting all over TWW.

>>145814051
oh, no, thanks anon, forgot about that, 2 more settlements to go

are arachnaroks worth it compared to giants?
Giants seem a better to me, looking at the stat lines

>>145814187
good luck! who are you playing as?

>>145814347
Arachnaroks are good, in part due to the absurd amount of armour they have. They're also fairly fast.

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>Finally wipe out Chaos after having them destroy everything in the north
>remembering all my allies who didnt make it to see this moment
>Age of Peace message appears

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>>145814591
>I have to handle the invasion by myself because everyone else is a useless piece of shit
>even my dwarf """"""ally"""""" who at turn 180 hasn't met the orcs yet, so he won't help me with the green menace
I swear to god when chaos is gone, I'm razing each and every one of those shits

Which one is correct?

>My lord, Tzeentch agrees
or
>My lord Tzeentch agrees

>>145815191
It doesn't mean the same thing

>>145815494
I know, which is why I'm asking.

How are the high elf loremasters and slann going to be represented in terms of magic if lords and heroes only get 30 skill points?

>>145815191
That comma completely changes the meaning of the sentence. Both are correct depending on the subject.

>>145815191
who says it?

>>145815191
The first would be if you're telling your lord that Tzeentch agrees, the latter would be if you're saying Tzeentch (your master) agrees.

>Examples
My lord, Anon has agreed to surrender
My lord Anon demands your surrender

>>145815574
Which one is correct?

>I'm going to fuck your mother
or
>I'm going to fuck your sister

>>145815191
Both

>>145815723
>>145815494
>>145815624
>>145815770
>>145815847
lmao anon was not asking for clarification on grammatical structure. he was obviously referring to which meaning is actually being conveyed when the sentence is said.

>>145815723
>>145815624
>>145815847
Guys I'm not asking about grammar, I want to know what the chaos sorcerer means when he says that.

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>>145815191
Second of course.

>Not serving Tzeentch

>>145815954
The second, isn't it obvious?

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>>145815972
Raven God 4 lyfe

>>145815954
They're all servants of Chaos. It's the second, he's talking about Tzeentch when he says my lord.

>>145815770
Neither, I don't fuck sluts

How do you know if birdman is dead?
I haven't seen him in about 60 turns but every time I beat chaos the lords are wounded

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Idiegala

>>145817826
indiegala*

F I X T H E F U C K I N G R E I N F O R C E M E N T S P A W N S Y O U E U R O T R A S H S H I T S

>>145818145
It's a feature for beastmen that was accidentally applied for all factions

How long does a campaign last?

>>145819104
about 6

>>145819220
hours?

>>145819104
Anywhere between ~100 to 250+ depending on how slow you take shit. Most campaigns seem to be a foregone conclusion at around ~120.

>>145819104
Fairly short, anywhere from 100-200 turns
Vampire Counts and Chaos will have a longer time of it especially if you need to clear out a huge dwarf faction

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>playtest with the luminark
>it's shit
>eventually trying it again
>using gelt with red skillpoints
>fire magic buff it too
>shoot level 24 chaos lord in the dick
>direct hit
>he loses 90% of his health
>he routs immediately
>predeployed missile cavalry shoot him once
>he dies

how was I so wrong? this thing is the shit.

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INTO THE MOTHERLAND THE GERMAN ARMY MARCH

>>145819375
It can snipe lords pretty well, but I question whether it's more useful than a steam tank given they have the same price

>>145819304
My legendary VC campaign was remarkably quick in no small part because Dwarfs got fucked hard. The Bloody Spears and I took out the Eastern ones, Empire and Tilea took out the western ones, and the Greenskins just ate up what was left not long after Archy fell.

>>145814394
dwarves
gonna do a random roll to see who I play next, I've always liked dwarves

>tfw all my allies just abandoned me after the FUCKING empire attacked one of my allies and I refused to help either side
I was a few turns away from completing all grudges, but now I will wipe out every other faction

>>145820151
How did you keep peace with the Greenskins afterwards?

>>145819585

that's what I thought, but 'sniping' doesn't do the situation justice. it deleted their lord (a full hp tanky one, it would have totally disintegrated a caster) in the first artillery volley

it's not even really an artillery piece, from what i understand it can move and fire and move quickly at that

I'm going to be testing it more, but I totally underestimated it

>TWW keeps crashing after being attacked by barrak var and successfully defending
why the fuuuuccckkk

>>145819510
cease blogposting

>>145820401
I didn't, they just kinda... left me alone. I guess Krumpin 'umies is more fun than slogging through miles of 100% corruption and fortified towns just to fight endless waves of dead un's.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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>>145821269
>tomb kings announced

>>145809206
>I am a veteran
>This is a steep learning curve, only try it if you like a challenge

Isn't this the most forgiving total war to date? I feel like it is. Especially town building, where in Attila I had to use a calculator to optimize my regions with careful planning. Here it's extremely simple.

How long would an army of 20 zombies last?

>>145821810
they'll fall to crumbling pretty quick if they're outmatched which is almost always unless you're buffing them at some ridiculous rate that I don't think is possible
However, low budget matches can be cheesed by lmao19zombies

>>145821752
>I had to use a calculator to optimize my regions with careful planning
>Not doing it all on your head
Are you from burgerland?

>>145821965
No

>>145821752
My favourite TW so far when it came to the development of cities/towns/provinces had to be in Empire.

>>145821810
For what? If you're just running around autoresolving garrisons they and last about 3 towns without rest before you start losing units.

>>145821006
butthurt slav detected

Kislev, Brettonia, Dog of War (Border Princes, Estalia, Tilea) factions when?

Skaven, Wood Elves, Beastmen when?

Mousillon, Tomb Kings, Strigoi When?

Chaos Dwarves, Alternate Dwarven starts, Ogre Kingdoms when?

Edge Elves, High Elves, Lizardmen when?

Albion when?

W H E N

>>145822618
BotET

>>145822618
tomorrow

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>>145814591
>>Finally wipe out Chaos after having them destroy everything in the north
>>remembering all my allies who didnt make it to see this moment
>>Age of Peace message appears
that literally gave me feels

>>145820298
Dorfs are great fun. that arty mang

>>145820298
>I was a few turns away from completing all grudges, but now I will wipe out every other faction
every grudge must be settled!

>>145820690
>>145819375
when I try Empire I'm definately using a Luminark with buffed Gelt. holy shit this hyped me up

patch when

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I think I found out why the black coach is so bad.

>>145823462
why? I don't get it

ded game
ded general
ded series

>>145823462
Explain please.

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>>145826034
>this is a bad thing

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>>145823519
>>145826331
It's carrying dead weight.

>>145826331
>>145823519

There's no vampire in the coffin.

>>145823462
are you able to mount your lord on it or something?

>>145826416
oooooooohhhh

>>145826379
kek

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>>145826379
I know why. It's too dusty in there. Whoever's inside will be coffin a lot.

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>>145826379
>>145826416
lol clever

Here have some norscan chumps getting fucked up by my heavy cavalry.

>>145818998
Actually?>>145818145

>>145826669
Don't make me box your ears, boy. This is a grave matter.

Which one is correct?

>Skulls for the Skull Throne
or
>Blood, for the Blood God

>>145826367
Based death, Nagash DLC when?

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>>145827174
Settra > Nagash

>>145827110
C.) KILL! MAIM! BURN!

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>turn 180
>archaon won't die
>just keeps getting wounded
>can't find that stupid fucking bird anywhere

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>>145827110
Milk for Khorne Flakes

>>145813489
>Can you make untis charge without orders like they could in medieval 2?
I've always heard about this happening in med 2 but never actually saw it. Granted I mostly played Call of Warhammer and Third Age

Best setting for frames in warhammer?

Also any eta for the dx12 patch?

>>145827052
But clearly that thing is burning. It's a van pyre.

>Playing as VC
>strenght bar is very favorable towards me
>Enemy army is mostly some few shitty zombies and skeletons
>Everytime I autoresolve, my Varghulf goes from full health to zero and dies

Go fuck yourself game I don't want to play every single fucking battle stop killing my fucking varghulf

>>145827331
Have you tried
looking into the fog of war? You can see the towers chaos cucks make when they are encampt threw it

>>145827791
the same thing will happen when you get terrorgheists too, or anyone that only has a single unit in a squad

greenskins have it worst though, since giants have fuck all armor you literally cannot auto resolve with them in your army or they will all die

>>145827224
Settra baby, you badass too.

>tfw no qt Varghulf with a qt tummy to rub

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what advice can you give to a guy whos trying to have fun in multiplayer other than git gud or don't play

90% of my games are fighting empire with 4+ demis or VC with flying wizards who spam spirit leech on my lord

do people just hate fun?

>>145827508
>I've always heard about this happening in med 2 but never actually saw it. Granted I mostly played Call of Warhammer and Third Age
true I've played tons of hours of medieval 2 and have only seen it a few times. It's mostly your knights who'll actually do it and only when the enemy gets close.

Also being knights it doesn't matter that much as anything they charge will die anyway

>>145828115
>>145827791
hopefully CA will fix it in an update

I have been playing since MTW back in 2003 and I still have no fucking clue how to make my dudes not run (>>) when issuing a move or keep formation without being in a group when issuing a move

do simple solutions exist

>settlements degrade in level when they are taken
>A settlement with walls can suddenly become one with out walls for no reason
why

>>145828787
look in options my dude

>tfw want to save scum
>tfw feel bad doing so

>>145828787
>make my dudes not run (>>) when issuing a move
Press R right after issuing the move

>>145829445
I know I can make my dudes (>) instead of (>>) right after I issue a move with another command

The question is, can I issue a move that makes them (>) from the beginning, without needing a second command, like with alt+ or ctrl+ or something

Becomes sometimes I forget and then some crucial troops are exhausted

>make big army to fight chaos invasion
>they just run away from me even though I have 3 +% movement speed followers and route marcher

Let's be honest, this game has some extremely shitty mechanics. Feels like a real step down in the franchise ignoring the nice IP.

Why does unlimited video memory hurt my frames?

Put this in front of the thread url at the top.
www.gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=http://
Now the thread is enjoyable.

>>145811747
This desu
In fact, Shogun 2 manages to fucking LOOK better than Warhammer, run better, and be deeper in terms of strategy, four years later, which is absolutely incredible. The only thing it really lacks is faction diversity but then again they're fighting over an area the size of Italy if that.

>>145821752
>Especially town building, where in Attila I had to use a calculator to optimize my regions with careful planning.
>calculator
Can you not do addition and subtraction of two-to-three-digit numbers in your head?

>>145804162
>Poor Little Bright Wizard

>>145828623

They shouldn't bother, if you autoresolve cheese your way through the game you should just be playing fucking Civ 5.

>>145831580
Autoresolve cheese is one thing, but sometimes you have a great army and the AI has a shitty one so the bar is pretty much full yellow and those fucking giants still lose half their health even though your entire army loses like 15 units. Those are the moments auto-resolve are for, time savers.

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Anyone else find Empire just plain boring?

On turn 80 in a Legendary campaign. Things are going really well, but as soon as the first Chaos invasion started shit has been tedious.

I can't assassinate any of their agents so all my settlements are getting Chaos corruption, some near 40% now.

I tried to march into Kislev to nip the Chaos Invasion in the bud but the game's shitty campaign movement meant I could never catch any of them, and had to spring "traps" that work less than 25% of the time unless there's a chokepoint.

So I'm basically playing whack-a-mole with stacks of Norscans etc all the while my lands are getting more and more corrupted.

This isn't fun. No other TW game was this tedious. It was more about battles, less about campaign map tedium.

>>145831905
I'm pretty sure that it does that because it uses the giants/monsters/big units to soak up all the damage in the fight.

>>145834389
Yes, and it's shit.

>>145834483
Not disagreeing just saying that's how it works.

>>145834389
I remember hearing that giants and monster counts as swordsmen in auto-resolve and because of that they take so much damage.

>>145834258
I think Attila was worse than Archaon.

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Have YOU WAAAAGGGHH'd today?

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>>145834925
WAAAGH!

Update/news about update in 4 hours. I can feel it.

>>145834913
Hail Atitat the Everazing

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>>145834925
>haha le waaagh XD

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>>145835081
That's a grudgin' laddie

>>145831314
>run better
Both run fine on my computer.

Only real thing I like from Shogun 2 that wasn't in older games was realm divide.

Also I don't know how Shogun 2 looks better than warhammer

>>145834694
You mean they count as a single swordsman out of a full unit? That sounds dumb. It can't be that they count as an entire swordsman unit because they take a lot less damage than the giants.

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>>145835172

He can probably run shogun 2 on higher settings. I know i can't run Warhammer well enough on high textures.

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>>145834913
Gitilla WHEN?

>>145835287
No clue really, saw a modder talking about it.

>>145835081
>haha anything I dont like is reddit XD
>>>/reddit/

DX12 patch fucking WHEN!?

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So what is the next total war going to be? Are they ever going to fuck off of the 32 bit architecture and make a proper engine?

>>145836242
>next total war

Not with these sales figures.

>>145836242
I really want Empire 2

>>145829630
press control while giving the order

>>145836810
>Empire 2
>wanting more stand and shooty Total War

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Post your neato Total War screenshots

Bonus if its not Warshitter :-)

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>>145836886
>wanting more stabby stabby total war
unless they make bronze age total war, which they will never make, the next title will be nearly identical to Attila, which isn't a bad thing because Attila was great, but why not have some variety

also gunpowder total war titles are far better in MP then melee ones, since you can actually maneuver around and fall back without your lines instantly collapsing

>>145836978
I dont really have much in a way of nice screens, I play on legendary to avoid savescumming so I cant pause for good screens

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>5 factions

>>145838008
>11 clans
>they're all the same

Dumb weeb

>>145838008
>he thinks this game series sells well enough to have more than 5 distinct factions at launch.

I do wish people would learn economics before spouting michael moore's bullshit everywhere. Games have to be paid for. Investors pay for them. Investors do not like risk, so the scope is drawn back into the realm of "fiscally plausible" and not "everything some fan wants"

Learn to fucking deal with the real world.

>Chaos Invasion starts turn 80
>takes me til 96 to defeat them because LOL LETS PROGRAM THE AI TO BE ABLE TO PERFECTLY EVADE YOU :)))))))))))))))))))))))))
>the doom tide starts

Is this the second invasion?

One right after another?

>>145839212

>Archaon the Everfleeing

>>145839612
>Archaon the Evercucked

>>145839754
Yeah archaon is worthless next to Kholek.

>>145835172
>Both run fine on my computer.
Warhammer has smaller armies tho, even on ultra.

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>>145836978
Love a good bridge defence.

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>>145836978
Siege towers look awesome as well.

>>145837283
Fighting retreat when? Sometimes I don't want them to push, I want them to stand and/or slowly walk back.
Just make giving a walk order mean a fighting move if I'm already in combat so I can move my lines back slowly or shift to the side. As it is Cannae literally does not work with historical strategies, your center simply collapses due to 'attacked in rear'.The Human Factor + DeI is great desu
Also when will we get attack-move? I want my entire line to charge enemies, but it doesn't happen even with the group tool they simply run into the enemies without a charge bonus. It'd be useful for cavalry to make them charge through a unit too, instead of charging into it and stopping and needing to be micro'd (which can be a problem if you have a lot of cavalry moving around).

>>145839158
t. Paradox. Faction distinctness can be created almost as easily as changing around a few stats, plugging in different unit types into their roster (so a faction of heavy infantry and cavalry but no fliers and weak artillery for example) and adding a faction trait. Flavor text is something you can write up in an hour. The only thing left at that point is graphics.
I'm not whining about >no diversity because I don't care enough, but don't spout pseudointellectual bullshit. If fucking Radious can make new units (distributed poorly but that's something else) just from piecing together what CA has, CA can too with a few palette swaps or a sheen filter.

>>145804565

I'm playing with everything on low, and when 3 vs 3 stacks happen, my FPS dips into less than teens. I just auto resolve those battles because it's impossible to play at those frame rates. I don't know how consoles do it.

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>Empire campaign
>tedious micromanagement of diplomacy with the dozen factions surrounding you
>tedious whack-a-mole stack chasing when either of the Chaos invasions arrive
>strongest lategame units (which you can acquire before turn 60 even on legendary) yet have to fight armies full of dogs and ranged cav meaning you need to autoresolve or you'll never wipe the enemy out
>Empire legendary is literally played from the campaign map, managing diplomacy and autoresolving battles
>Empire campaign is literally a shittier version of a Paradox grand strategy game

>>145840501
>>145840501
and radious's units change the faction completely in terms of gameplay because he destroys the balance and faction identity.

>>145841630
Which I admitted by saying 'distributed poorly'. I meant Radious being able to make new graphical units, actually making new units in terms of changing the stats is trivial, the only hard part is making graphics and making sure they're not completely unbalanced.

>>145841702
and making random units that make the factions the same ends up making the battles play similar.

Playing as Parthia should be about having excellent cavalry and lackluster infantry at the start. Having Radious Elite Dismounted Cataphract Immortals (tm) fucks over the game balance and faction style immensely. It is not as applicable to WH because each faction plays far more differently in the campaign.

How do I set the resolution lower than 1280x720 in Warhammer?

>>145841826
What the fuck are you even talking about, that's exactly my point. Making a new faction that's different from the others is about changing the stats of units, giving them extra-strong versions of some while completely denying them other unit types and having weaker types of some units.
I'm NOT saying that Radious is balanced or fun or diverse. I'm saying that he can pump out different-looking units, stop taking the mod as a whole I don't use it or think it's good.

>>145839158
>TW is niche

I wish this meme would end

>>145842001
difference for the sake of difference is a terrible idea. A lot of things determine how a faction plays, from it's tech tree to it's units to it's initial location on the campaign map. DEI adds a bunch of factions that are unique enough from each other that each faction offers a difference on the campaign map and the battle map.

>>145841630
A veritable work of its time, Radious mod is an author’s input on the contemporary attitude so critical of mods that they’re often not given a chance at all, a window through which we see the creator’s wish to move his audience, as well as frustrations at the vessels of these emotions being ignored or enjoyed as “low art”.

Attempts at analyzing Radious mod’s implications and unraveling its messages necessitate great concentration and effort, which is further exacerbated when so much of my blood flows elsewhere than my brain when enjoying this mod.

Radious mod is a journey, an embodiment of a search fundamental to our humanity yet abandoned by contemporary society; Radious Mod is the eternal quest for perfection. As philosophers and "understanders of strategy" alike vainly peruse the void of their hollow souls for an abstract ideal, they achieve naught save for casting the community into desecration. Delving further into the hypothetical and the metaphysical only reinforces the misbelief that true beauty lies within. “Homosexuality,” Plato wrote, “is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments, Both of which apply to contemporary society.

"Quod culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno; atque id durius est faba et lapillis. Quod tu si manibus teras fricesque, non umquam digitum inquinare posses.”

As tremors of mirth reverberate through my corpus; my finite faculties discharged; my soul emancipated. Such is the power of Radious Mod. Radious Mod is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is perhaps best treated as a lengthy parable. For the actively dismissive it will hardly make much of an impression other than being an ordinary mod with a cheap attempt at improving the game. For others with willing ears and eyes to match, it can be a novel take on the values and motivations surrounding the genre.

>>145842098
Are you actually fucking reading my posts? The original post was in response to >>145839158 which claimed that it was far too much work and would cost far too much to add new factions which played and 'felt' different. I'm using Radious as an example of how fucking easily you can create new units, not as an example of well-done new units.
DeI and FotE add tons of new units while maintaining balance and diversity, and DeI adds factions outright as you said.

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>>145842098
>Divide et "infantry is worthless, hammer and anvil to victory" impera

>>145839212
the doom tide is literally the personification of chaosbabbies

it's how the writers satisfy their 15 year old fans, it's a "heh, you defeated this invasion, but in the end chaos will win, nothin personell kid."

the doom tide event triggers every time you wipe out the Chaos Faction and spawns another two stacks of chaos in the wastes.

>>145842204
radious factions don't feel different. DEI lategames don't feel different because you are a giant blob that has all the necessary techs and buildings.

For better or worse, each TW:WH faction plays and feels differently now, much more than the difference between rome and aksum.

>>145842283
oh wow, I hadn't seen that old webm in forever.

>>145841974

Bump, I need this question answered.

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>>145842098

have another

>>145842283
lol

>>145842491
The fuck is this?

>>145842283
>light missile cavalry
>light missile
>missile

faggot

>>145842283
>meming
You're charging praetorian guards with very light missile cavalry, what the fuck do you expect?
Try hitting them with actually good infantry and cavalry.

>>145842357
>radious factions don't feel different
>ignoring my post
>AGAIN
Nigger, my point is that creating new factions is not difficult. What is the effective difference between Vampires and Dwarves? The units and the mechanics. Units are trivial to create, while there are only a few mechanics that truly differ between dwarves (grudges) and vampires (necro)

>>145842491
That doesn't seem right, my germanic youths kill off entire units of romans.

>>145842581
DeI javelins

>>145842607
and corruption
and the diplomatic stance
and other stuff.

also it's an old webm before kam2150 redid the entire battle system.

So I started a VH Vamp Cunts campaign for the first time. Barely managed to survive Dwarfs confederating to 20+ territories, and then beat chaos back to have then immediately reappear with 6 stacks. I can maintain 2 stacks and one just got btfo so I need to rebuild.

Recommend me your best VC comp.

>"Radious"
>"DeI"
>"mods"

its all memes

>>145842283
>your hammer: Light missile cav, these speedy, light cavalrymen can do good service in harrying the enemy
>your anvil: medium spear infantry, not the pontic thorax standing behind them
>their troops: Very Heavy Melee Infantry, Praetorian fucking gaurds
Wew

>>145842607
Infantarie is still useless and better cavalry only makes it faster

>>145842686
thanks stirner

>>145842737
>very heavy cavalry charges are very strong
But cavalry costs like three or four times as much as infantry and can be taken apart by higher-tier spearmen. Infantry isn't useless at all, in fact the only thing I really find cav useful for is hunting down javelins and archers and chariots are better than them at that.

>>145842151
These Radious copypastas are more poetry than the art they intend to celebrate

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Shogun fucking shits get out

>>145842845
They're ironic tho right?

>>145842879
Looks like their commander pulled a Varro or Crassus or something
What the fuck did he do?

>>145842910
of course they are

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>>145842879
>mfw CA unironically releases an expansion based on a war where <10,000 people died
>mfw people play it

>>145843019
is that a tiny line infantryman?

>>145842828
infantarie can only die to kavallrie and can't kill anything at all.

>>145842910
His army consisted of mostly spear levy, a few line infantry, and no arty.

I had a position on top of a hill. Textbook turkey shoot.

>>145843019

See >>145809206

>>145843071
Are you a pole by any chance, because if you're soldat then the German army prided itself on...the discipline of the infantryman.

>>145840501
>Fighting retreat when?
this is something I wanted for ages, an ability to move step backwards without turning around. They could still take some penalties to damage, morale and attack/defense skills if CA is worried about it being too exploitable. As it stands right now maneuvering after the lines meet is extremely restricted, which makes engagements boring

I think the main reason they dont implement something like that is because it would be hard to make the AI use it properly, and also because most of the tw playerbase is surprisingly bad anyway and wouldn't even know how to use it

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>>145836978
Question for anyone that may know

You can't completely remove the HUD in Napoopan, right? As far as I know you can only remove certain elements like the map and unit cards

Makes for less scenic screenshots

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hey lads I'm not sure if anyone noticed but I updated the colours of all black knights/graveguard to make them more faded(as originally some of the secondary colours were inverted which made them look weird) so I figured I'd go all out.

here is how they look now, pretty coolo.

Im still stuck on the hero variant being assigned to one faction, its never been done before in any warscape mod to my knowledge so I worry I'm fucked and its hard coded.

>>145843362
Nice.

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>>145836978
I call this one "The Tom Cruise"

>>145843156
THAT IS WHY DIVIDE ET IMPERA IS DISGRACE TO LANSER

>>145843606
t. the eternal kraut

>>145843649
inselaffe army had to gang up on wehrmacht with amerikaner and bolshelviks.. so this is the power of the ubermenschen..

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>>145843362
I think you'd need to go through the agents table to make a new agent and then you have to assign it through the Faction_Agent_Permitted_Subtypes table.
Also, look what I found hidden in those agent tables. There's also voiceover files for Knights Panther and White Wolf.

>>145843759
What the fuck is inselaffe anyway

So do I win the game now?

This is on legendary btw

>>145843995
Yes

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>>145843805

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>>145843995
youre gonna win anon, we belive in you!

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>>145844081

Why do ships catch fire once you win a boarding action? Any boarders on the ship die instantly and you can lose entire ships this way.

>>145844127
>Steam Tanks
>Demigryphs
Yeah you win.

>>145843805
the english (island apes)

>>145844246
which game

>>145844298
Rome 2.

>>145843805
>>145843759
>>145844083
>>145844289

man, german seems like an easy language to get into.

>>145844246
I didn't know having certain people on board somehow makss the ship fireproof

>>145836242
I'm kind of feeling medieval 3 at the moment, but I think empire 2 would be the most interesting. Would love it if they focused on colonization a lot more.