EVE Online /eog/

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First for Jamyl

what to do when you are bored of this game?

you didnt change the fucking timeline?

>WH corps

These kinds of "people" don't actually play the game, right? Aren't wormholes where they go to ERP uninterrupted?

Abaddon is thick, take me strong brutor.

>>145705458
Nothing interesting actually happened.

I put goons are dead on the bottom because it doesn't have a direct time event..

>>145705454

Gank highsec shitters.

>>145705601
>not best edition
>>145705601

>>145705880
>made after

>>145705880

Fuck off.

>>145705961
nigger

>not raven edition

damn this game is fucking dead absolutely nothing fun going on. Inb4 hurr make your own fun

you can't make something out of nothing you dumb filthy faggot.

>>145707620
channel your anger into undocking, then youll have things going on

>>145707620
become interstellar fedex

>>145707620
Ship spin you fag

>>145707620
I bet you wait for pings too, you fag

>>145707745
no one does anything in space ya dum fag, everything is empty

>>145708178
do you think its gonna be the same irl
when we in space n shit

>>145708357
my ancestors wuz in space. it was full of planets n shiet

What the hell is this scram firbolg, insta fighter popped bullshit.

dead game

>>145710871
raven

>not typhoon

>>145707620
>make something from nothing
thats not how it works

>>145716001

thats how mining works dipshit

>>145716609
thats how "Creating content" works

>his minerals aren't free

>>145716662

i'm docked up so my content creation is at an all time high

Dead

Gaem

PASSIVE SHIELD JACKDAW

>>145719545
Garbage/

>>145719545
as long it shoots lights from sniping positions you don't even need tank.

>rangefags

>>145719856
https://files.catbox.moe/tmtlci.opus

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Neuts face when

>REPUBLIC
>FLEET
>LARGE
>CAP
>BATTERY

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>>145720278
>x2 capital cap battery
>apostle
>mindflood

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>>145721846

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wish these were achievable for me ;_:

>>145722213
just orbit while you hack em
:^)

>>145722213
the fuck is up with your overview

>>145722292
I've heard a gnosis could deal with defended sites solo is this true?

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>>145722213

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>>145722496
what's wrong with it

>>145722540
why so many?
isn't there a cap escalation limit?

>>145722540
so you need something like 5 man groups to do them? what are the profits like?

>>145722676

see ya soon

>>145722769
We cant do it this way anymore, but we single cycled them for four days.

>>145722907
pls respond
>>145722795

>>145722795
>what are the profits like?
rats, good
cans, shit

>>145722907
we used to do them with 1 moros, 1 archon and 2 lokis with an additional nag after the 1st escalation rats were almost dead, was pretty good isk, cleared like 1bil isk each for an hour of work not including all-out tier wormhole collapsing and losing megathrons

why is almost every system empty in this game? Roaming for hours and finding nothing.

>>145724080
because the game is fucking enormous. unless you are also roaming through j-space, you are literally roaming around a tiny fraction of two thirds of the areas available in the game. if every system in the game had at least one player in it, there would be only two or three per system.

People only show up if there is 100% certainty that you will die.

risk aversion is the cancer that is killing this game

>>145724304

No, local free intel is the cancer killing the game. If there'd be no free intel and everyone had to scout for it, we'd have much livelier enviroment.

>>145724080
sov null is that way because of sov, npc sov and lowsec is that way because people want to live on good strategic systems (in range for drops, bordering a specific highsec, lowsec or null, npcs or moons) and highsec because living outside of a major market system is for miners.

>>145724304
if that bothers you, go play call of duty or something

>>145723750
full clear with just that moros and half nag takes 3 or 4 cycles

>>145724443
npc null*

>>145724304
yeah for real dude. It seems that I have to choices in this game. Either be a full on risk averse care bear, or roam for an hour in the hopes that I happen to catch someone going through the same gate after a few hours.

Both options make watching paint dry more engaging and fun.

>>145724080
the map is made to hold 3 times the current number of people playing the game

more people cause more people to undock and it ends up chaining more and more people undocking because everyone wants to kill people and therefore filling the map.

with the low amount of people in todays age, it just makes people stay docked because they only undock when something comes near their home

>>145724080

cause you don't know how to do it

there's content everywhere

tfw you forgot to do your dailies :^(

Go look in providence. If there's nobody out there, then I'll believe the game is dead.

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Who the fuck ruined my stacmon trading hub?

I used to buy cheap shit at jita&amarr and sell it to lowsec tryhards at 300% price. Now important ammunition and mods are even cheaper than major tradehubs. What the fuck? Fix it ! Fix it NOW!

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there's noone in local so it's abandoned
could it be worth much?

>>145725797
No because it's in a POS.

>>145725797
are you sure it's not pos trash?

>>145725797
probably a pos
cerb is 160mil and sabre 50 in hulls~
you still need to be able to fly em

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>>145725353
looks like someone started producing your shit locally. welcome to the free market

>>145726094

Still fun to blow them up even if you can't fly them.

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>even stacmon is better than shitty amarr

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>amarr

guys whats a good entry level logi for small gang?

>>145727870
any t1 frig or cruiser logi. try to make your gang all be armour or shield so it all matches up, and ideally buffer tanked or buffer + active

in my retarded opinion:

bantam > burst
inquisitor > navitas
exequror > augoror
osprey > scythe

but they're all good and usable

>>145727870
no such thing as bad logi ship
theyre just different

>>145724690
Consider that if you (for example) rat in null with zero precautions you will likely get your ass dunked in less an hour, and realize that there are methods of finding targets that you might not know about atm (in game map, dotlan, intel channels/bots) and there are more target rich environments that you also might not know about. For instance, you could try hazing pandemic horde in t1 destroyers and watch them fall like dominoes.

>>145729192

Goonganda aside, there are people undocked in pve ships right now. That's not really pvp though, if you're planning on killing those. That's just bearslaying.

>not killing rattlesneks with your asteros
even a weeb goon can do it.

>>145728052
thanks. im thinking he is going to need to be active tanked osprey. just trying to throw together a low sp build

>>145730391
literally how, post fit

>>145731982

>wait cloaked while watching the ratting rattler
>officer spawns, rattler's tank begins to melt
>uncloak, neutscram his ass and pop out the drones

>>145728052
>exequror > augoror
Are you stupid? the augorer is superior in reps and cap affinity.

How can you put the exequor being better than an aug when you have the osprey listed as better than the sythe?

>>145732391
>>145732393
not him but
doesn't the aug have bonus to cap chains?

those logis are obviously better but they actually require coordination and an actual logi group, something peoppe on T1 ships rarely do.

>>145732592
>doesn't the aug have bonus to cap chains?
yes

1000% to range and 200% to amount

>>145732393
you're stupid, enjoy you're lowslots and meme-chaining

>cap affinity

what does this even mean

>How can you ...

because they aren't the same. a scythe only has enough fitting for shitty cap recharger fits, while an osprey can do cap booster

>>145732646
>using a cap booster on a logi ship that gets a huge bonus to cap transfers

god damn you ARE retarded.

the aug is superior to the exequor. It has absolutely no cap problems, isn't dependent on ammo for fucking cap and your extra lowslot is worthless. Now with the change to sensor boosters I can just switch ECCM with scan res script theres no advantage to the exequors former ability to run two sensor boosters for ECCM and scan res

>>145732646
>osprey
>cap booster
It uses cap transfers, why would you run a cap booster when you get more than enough cap from transfers?

>>145733181
>>145733071
>small gang
>cap chain

oh so you just want to run a cancer logistics aids blob

also if your augoror is cap chaining it doesn't rep more and lmao at tank being worthless, kys

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>>145733370

>>145733370
2 ospreys in cap chain is not a blob you stupid fuck

one transfer between two ospreys is more than enough cap and if you've got shit skills do two transfers.

Exequor only has 3 highs, it reps the same as an aug with 3 reps and 2 transfers

People with good skills can do one transfer on an aug and do 4 remote reps. The aug is better than the exequor

>>145733502
you are very neutable, and you probably have an afterburner so you can't even move

>>145733474
if anyone should be posting will smith here it should be me

>>145733603
>you are very neutable
You need an ashimmu to cap fuck an aug chain, even then neuts will easily get primaried

>you probably have an AB
You can do either pretty easy

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>>145733603
>>145733502
both of your are retarded

>>145733804
I've said nothing wrong with how the aug is better than the exequor

>>145733720
>ashimmu

why would anyone need such a useless ship

anyway, much more vulnerable to neuting and jamming than exequrors that do not rely on each other, have more tank and are probably way faster

I'm going now, so feel free to have the last word even though you're wrong and terrible and only fly in blobs

>>145733804
you are

Shart pls go

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>>145733941
senpai noticed me

>>145733912
>why would anyone need such a useless ship
ashimmu neuts are actually high enough to fuck an aug chain especially when you have 1 up 1 down, even an ashimmu isn't enough and you need heavy neuts and better.

>anyway much more vulnerable
no, an exequror is far more vulnerable, your medium cap booster with a single 800 will get neuted away quicker than an augorors' cap chain will.

>exequors are way tankier
hardly
>faster
barely
>ur a blob
2-3 augs is not a blob

if you seriously only bring 1 osprey or 1 exequor to fight you're fucking stupid, you're gonna get killed immediately

it's really late shard go to bed.

>>145733912
>my single cap booster on my exeq is far less vulnerable than two cap transfers going up and down augs
You are so fucking stupid.

>>145733912
he probably mentioned that because people are starung to run small ashimmu fleets recently and its probably the only ship that could get that close to a bunch of logi ships and their fleet.

Curse would get instantly killed, battleships woudln't get that close and anything unbonused woudln't do shit unless it was in big numbers and it woudln't matter then.

>>145734209
I have orcas to move

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>get neuted
>no cap
>"can you guys stop killing my fleet for a second? I can't cycle my reps yet, waiting on my cap booster to reload"
>guise pls.

>>145734457
I'm gonna doomsday them fucker

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>Abaddon

>>145734515
>dude we should've brought cap chain augs
>NO FUCK THAT they're so vulnerable to cap
>moreso than you?
>NO IM FINE
>[the capacitor is empty]

>>145734615
Get it fast, its being liquidated

>>145734708
Both have a role you twat. You two need to learn that anything gets sucked dry by neuts, even with a chain. If you can alpha the cap on a piece of a chain, it disrupts it considerably, couple that with some ec-300s and you have yourself a dead whatever.

>>145734615
can you really dd orcas?

>>145734876
>Both have a role you twat. You two need to learn that anything gets sucked dry by neuts,
Oh so you're shifting the goal posts now?

No longer is it JUST the aug that is "vulnerable to neuts" even though cap transfers produce more cap per second than boosters?

>alpha the cap
does virtually nothing, you need to stagger them otherwise it'll get cap back in between your neut cycles
>ec-300's
>guys adjust cap chain someone got jammed
your exeq is just as vulnerable to ec-300's

>>145735027
No.

>>145735027
No you can't, an orca is not a capital ship

>>145735130
>Oh so you're shifting the goal posts now?
Huh? im not either one of you, im just someone with more experience than most in a logistical role.

>>145735143
>>145735216
market has them under capital ships?
idk I think you can dd them.
has anyone tested it?

>>145735293
We have, you cant dd them, but they are classified as a capital. Can we not do this again.

How many catalysts or vexors do I need to gank a Stratios with a 1600 plate and two nanoplates?

post proofs

>>145735285
woops

>>145735293
yes people have tested it

>>145735387
Yes you can Doomsday Orcas you dumb faggots, I just did 20 minutes ago.
Please learn EVE.

Post proofs that orcas can/cannot be doomsdayed
pls

>>145735450
You mean without CONCORD?
Assuming you land instant scram and maybe web, maybe 4 catalysts, depends a lot on how fast he reacts and starts killing.
2 Vexors

>>145735552
theres a webm of an avatar attempting to shoot an orca with its DD and it fails with an error saying "the Orca is not a cap ship" or something along those lines

>>145735727
link it

>she doesn't post the proofs
pls

so i have 30 days of gametime

how do i get the money for a plex?

>>145735951
sell it

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>>145735478

>>145735632
With, suicide (0.5).

>>145736109
probably the same number assuming concord is not pulled

>still no evidence
I have all night

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Just started the game, already getting trained up to start doing exploration stuff. Got to save up cash for the Heron and the cloak skillbook.

Jesus christ the first few hours of this game are slow. I don't want to mine stuff to get the cash for this stuff it's the most unfun thing .

>few hours
no, the first year of playing eve is terrible

>>145736875
read the OP you dumn nigger
those missioms will literally give you a free heron and skillbooks

>>145736839
wow anon spending your entire night shitposting again?

>>145737136
implying shitposting is effort

You dumb orca dd shitposting faggots.
https://u.pomf.is/pmoqpk.webm

it's confirmed then

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>>145737465
nice virus, anon

not gonna click that

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>>145737982

You can dd an orca. Just use pike.

Why does prospect can fit a covert cyno? How to find a group to scout or light a cyno in nullsec for?

>>145739238

It can fit a covert cloak, why wouldn't it be able to light covert cyno?

>>145739238
>sneaky frigate sneaks
>finds place to mine
>rorq jumps in with ships in ship hangar
>everyone jumps clones to rorq
>sneaky sneak mining op

>>145740767

Can rorq use covert cyno?

>

>>145740767
Rorq jumps where? To a belt? lmao.

>>145725353
Buy shit from lowsec and sell in jita then, ezy.

globby pls go

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did you get your 10k sp today?

>>145743523
the prive diffirence is less than 10% wich makes it unprofitable

>>145744203

Yeah, I get about 20 injectors worth every day just sitting on my ass and trolling 4chan.

>>145745494
> roughly 10b a day
sure you do buddy

>>145744203
> have 10 SP farm accounts
> get them in kestrels
> log them off in a tutorial mission (never expires)
> every day log on all my SP farming accounts
> fire light missiles to one volley the rat
> close client

ez 100k sp/day

>>145746565
Is this even cheaper than just buying the injector?

>>145746196

It's called welfare, look it up.

>>145746565
How are you extracting them?

>>145746904
out his ass, just like his talking.

>>145737465
LAD

>>145746707
SP farms were profitable before the addition of dailies (provided you had +4 implants and optimized attributes). With dailies it got even better, obviously.

>>145746904
I can't tell if you're trying to be clever or serious.

In case you're serious, I dock up once a month or so when I can extract 4-5 per account and then ship them to jita in a T3.

inb4 "but you'll get suicide ganked"

>>145746770
I thought you were talking about ingame methods.

should I engage a scythe fleet in my breacher?
I already ran away but maybe I should have taken the fight

>>145751931
lol no

>>145751931
> should I engage a LML cruiser in a frigate?
Gee anon I don't know

>>145752060
>>145752145

cant I tank light missiles with an AB?

>>145752174
Yeah youre right, go kill him dood

>>145752145
>LML cruiser
Stop with this memes. SFI is gunboat.

>>145752174
Rapid lights will still shred your ship.

Maybe if you've got some crazy tank setup with high grade crystals you could survive until he has to reload.

But you probably don't have enough dps to break him anyways.

So yeah you did good to avoid him.

>>145752223
>Stop with this memes. SFI is gunboat.
It has 4 missile slots so it can be a RLML boat just fine.

>>145752462
I had 10mn ab for memes

whats the best ship for killing ratting ishtars?

guys what's the best way to get a qualified person to make me a grade-A slut character on my account

> bought navy 800 cap in bulk from some faggot on /eog/ for 180k a piece a few months ago
> forgot about them
> they're 350k now in jita
wew

>>145754353
>have to ship navy 800s which are way too fucking big for some reason

>>145754506
Some dumbass freighter pilot has already accepted an overcollaterized courier contract for like 1m/jump.

Feel free to gank him, he's going from amarr to jita as we speak probably.

> finally have a scheme that makes billions a month for little effort
> still feel empty inside
Wat do with my newfound fortune?

>that guy who undercuts more than 0,01isk

>market trading
>0.01 isking no less
You're the reason people think eve is a spreadsheet simulator

>anyone with stuff on the market is a trader

>>145756937
>stuff on market
>trading
yeah that's how this thing works

0,01isking prevents wild price swings, therefore it is a correct behavior.

>anyone who's showed someone how to do something is a professor

>>145757219
wild price swings allow some people to profit (the ones that know when they are coming) and make others lose money. by causing the swing and behaving appropriately, you make more money. what the fuck is a correct behavior. are you voting for bernie?

>>145757357
You make profit by the buy low/sell high faggotry.

>>145757219
>0,01isking prevents wild price swings
you are delusional if you think that 0.01 isking significantly affects price to move back to an equilibrium.

Let's assume an item gets 0.01 isked every 30 seconds, both for buy and sell orders. That would mean the price would shift about 2.5 isk every hour.

That's completely fucking irrelevant for most items in the game.

>>145757705
m8, if you're going to be on my side, please read more carefully so you don't appear to be an idiot. he wants people to .01 isk because if people do it, prices will remain stable (i.e., not swing wildly - i.e., prevent wild swings). This is the behavior you describe.

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How do I price this shit?

>>145757945
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/

>>145757990
I mean just the blueprints on contracts. Is there some general pricing 101 on t2 bpcs?

The prices are all over the place in the contracts.

>>145757875
It does not prevent wild swings at all.

Any faggot can just come in and dump items 5% lower. What happens next is often a horde of other retarded market traders will follow suit and ruin the margin.

0.01 isking is completely irrelevant and is only done because of the silly way the market works.

>>145758371
>if someone comes in and [doesn't .01 ISK] then [the price swings]
yes, that is true, we agree
what's the problem here
if people .01 isk the price doesn't move
if people don't .01 the price moves
he said it, i said it, you said it
thanks /dog/

fuck the GOA

>>145757945
in ISK

Somebody convince me that going further than just selling ore wholesale is a good way to make money

>>145761561
Compress it before you sell it.

is it normal for arty vagas to run around with emp ammo?

>haha i posted it again :)

every mechanic feels broken, and/or outdated in this game.

>>145762313

Even the unsubbing mechanic?

>>145762958
no that's the only thing they did right

>>145763054

Then use it, ctrl+w this thread and go back to plebbit, faggot.

We don't want you here.

>faggots talking shit about this game because they aren't good enough at flying arty vags

>I
>POSTED
>IT
>AGAIN
>Xdd

>>145763196
>muh can't stand criticism

those 10 accounts you have running sure keep you invested in this excel spreadsheet sim, eh cuck?

>>145763242

>artsy vags

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How is it possible for this general to be worse than /kspg/

>>145764518
Both have space autism, but EVE also has griefing, malice and envy.

>>145764518
you've made me curious anon

>>145764518
because KSP actually has working mechanics, and if it doesn't someone can just mod it to work.

>>145764518
holy shit dude
i just looked at the archive
what the fuck is happening to that thread

guys why aren't our fics as fucking high-quality as ksp's
this is some top-shelf shit here, i'm genuinely enjoying this http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>>145734135
>1 up 1 down

so you don't have 4 reps, I knew it

>2-3 augs is not a blob

lmao

enjoy getting no fights and not being an alliance tournament-tier logi pilot

>>145734276
kys 3 rep afterburner shitter

>>145734317
there's no way an ashimmu can catch an exequror without instant death fit and the exeq's gang being afk

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>>145766016
how autistic do you have to be to enjoy reading the entirety of that?

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>>145766016

>>145766157
i'm not done but it's held my interest so far just by being entertaining

>"Oh, this doesn't look like a pressure release vent at all..."
fucking lol

>>145744203
yeah on all 10 miners and 5 main pilots

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>no arty nano active armor vagabond fit yet

>I
>POSTED
>IT
>AGAIN
>MOM
>LOL
>XDD

>Moooom he posted about that ship that triggers me mooooooooom

>>145766143
>so you don't have 4 reps, I knew it
same rep bonus as the exeq

>lmao ur a blob

your exeq only has 3 highs and you're trying to rip on the aug for only using 3 reps

>omg they called me out on my shitposting :(

>>145766998
what do you mean yet? just make one

>>145767604
yeah because faggot said it repped more

>>145767678
it can rep more because you can drop one transfer for a repper because you only need one cap transfer to keep the aug more than stable

this week in r/eog:

the gang sets out to prove to each other they are the biggest faggot.

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Isn't manufacturing supposed to be more profitable? I mean shit I understand that it would take a lot of startup capital, sure, but by just sitting in a retriever all day and mining veldspar it seems like I can make way more ISK than the equivilant amount of time manufacturing
I just dont understand. Maybe I'm retarded.

>>145767813
>/eog/ forming a gang
they're all scared faggots terrified of speaking on comms, will never happen

i need to make a new edit of that comic, the last one is more than a year old
there's so much potential with the "x is killing the game" shitposts

>>145767747
>it's very cap stable because it only has 3 reps
>also it reps more because it has 4 reps

nah. exequror master race, +1 low. ab anchor babbies pls go

>>145767891
hint, you can do both

>>145767891
the thing about manufacturing is that you can use all your alts on one account to run jobs, so you need to do that, meaning you have to train all the skills and all of them. and for maximum profit, a control tower with structures that help something youre interested in making is also pretty required.

then youd make more.

>>145768046
Not if you need minerals for manufacturing, which you do.
I actually didn't do the calculations on how much time it would take to gather the amount of minerals I would need for my jobs
>inb4 use an alt

>>145767976
>+1 low
that does nothing for your rep amount.

the aug is cap stable running all its shit, 4 reps and just using 1 transfer.

>hurr anchor
so you admit you're just flying around doing fuck all instead of staying organized.

And you call me shit "blob" even though you don't have fuck to your plan at all

>>145768282
what

>>145768314
>that does nothing for your rep amount.

yeah who cares about tanking that doesn't matter at all right

>so you admit you're just flying around doing fuck all instead of staying organized.

no I'm admitting that I'm better than you

>>145768460
>yeah who cares about tanking that doesn't matter at all right
the highslots are superior, your lowslot doesn't even allow you to get more tank than the aug.

>I'm better than you
>by having no organization to my logi, using worse shitfit ships and somehow thinking I have more reps than an aug

>>145768282
You are now mixing more than one job and saying its only one.

>>145768550
yeah they do

and I am far better than you

I never said more reps, I said not less reps unless you're using 1 cap. better at reading than you

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You are now breathing manually.

>>145768282
if you mine your own minerals you can make much more of a profit manufacturing because you don't have to buy your minerals.

>>145768734
prove you're better than him, link your km, you started this shit.
I have ALL day.

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This is getting too fucking meta

>>145768854
>me
>dying
>ever

I have all of tomorrow as well

>>145768734
Nah, an aug reps more, reps better, less vulnerable to neuts, more tank. Doesn't even rely on cap boosters.

An aug is superior to an exeq and nothing about how you feel like you are makes you better because you're fucking not.

>>145768825
>implying mining minerals on your own means they're free
muh isk/h

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>>145768920
I take it that post means you're full of shit.
ok

>>145768963
>4 reps
>less vulnerable to neuts

itt we make shit up

>>145768734
>shifts the goalposts to "I don't care about the aug v exeq, I'm just better therefore my logi is magically better!"

>>145768971
you don't pay isk for your mined minerals you fucking retard.

>>145769075
the aug's cap transfers give more cap than a medium cap booster will retard

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>>145769201

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>too much of a pussy to link killboard proof after talking so much shit
>>>/v/

>>145769098
>shifts goalposts to le goalpost shift meme

>>145769229
>jam/neut one aug
>2 augs stop repping

>>145769201
no you pay in time instead you inbred nigger

>logi
>killmails
lmao you are stupid

>i have all day meme

yeah you do have all day ya neet

>>145769353
>>jam/neut one aug
>>2 augs stop repping

God damn you magically think logi can't do ANYTHING
>readjust cap chain
>only lose one logi

>>145769380
Are you just pretending to be retarded to keep the act or do you not realize logi ships still show killmails when you die?


I have ALL weekend

>>145769463
>admitting to having a massive logi blob
>augs are good because we bring 20 logi to every fight

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What's better for Kestrel, rockets or missiles?

>>145769549
>>admitting to having a massive logi blob
>3 logi is a "massive blob"
god damn you guys are retarded. Suddenly the enemy brings one different/more/other ship and you scream "BLOB BLOB, this fight doesn't count! it wasn't fair!" and you cry all the way home.

>>145769562
neither is better

>>145769562
rockets.
missiles don't even fit without autism fit that pulls 80 dps.

>>145769562
punisher>kestrel

>>145769621
more like you guys cry all the way home because nobody is interested in your circlejerk no-skill cancer blob

>go to bed
>wake up
>two still going at it about logistsics

I said you two were both retarded

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>not flying T2 Logi
you guys are all shit at the game, literally bow before me you fucking noSP faggots

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Why do I feel like someone could be a really successful fleet commander if they just used numbers in addition to tactics

>scimi=guardian>the rest

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>T2

>>145769848
this is the only part where an oneiros has advantages over a guardian

>guardians
>huge ass reps
>unbreakable cap chains
>literally fucking bricks

Oneiros
>more mids allows for multiple sensor boosters
>speed and dual prop fits are common
>reps almost as much

If the guardian had a third mid it'd be flat out better than the oneiros regardless of the speed difference

>unironically being a healer in an adult MMO

>adult

>>145770059
>>reps almost as much
it reps more

do you honestly run shitty 5/1 guards

>>145770059
the oneiros is just garbage though, it's not fast or anything. it's not like an exequror where there are reasons to use it. nullbabbies use oneiros because they can't be bothered cap chaining and because in their ranged blob warfare there isn't any neuts or anything

>>145770179
because of the logi bonus, your 5/1 is more cap stable than the oneiros because logi 5 allows you to do that.

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>he doesn't fly complex scimitar + basilisk / guardian + Oneiros hybrid shifting logi fleets

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>5/1
>cap stable

>oni
>bad

guys please.

the problem with this game is that logistics aren't organic. you have a bunch of these cunts together and the fact that they foster inorganic gameplay is really the crux of the problem here.

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>he fly literal plaebian """""logi""""" labeled ships
>she dosn't fly superior organic ethereal master race next step evolution tier logi T3Cs
Just give it faggots.
Your outdated """""""logi""""""" ships are past their time.

>logi t3c
No. Just no.

rlml

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Why is this even an arguement

>>145770840
Theres gonna come a day when someone says "assault frigates are totally balanced" or "the abaddon is a good battleship"

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>>145770623
>>145770748

>tank of a T2 battleship; check
>sig of a destroyer; check
>infinite neut immune cap; check
>fast like a nano cruiser without nanos; check
>hundreds of different fit choices; check
>Massive PG and CPU that allows large reps on every high slot; check
>THREE times more rep amount than """"logi ships""""; check
>refittable for evacuating with cloak and inderdiction nullified; check
>reffitable for dps/support job; check

Keep up with the times grandpa

>>145771152
>>sig of a destroyer; check
a cruiser, there is no subsystem that gives sig reduction except that one loki subsystem
>neut immune cap
what?
>fast like a nano-cruiser
the proteus, legion or tengu are NOT fast at all like a nano-cruiser
>3 large reps
so does a guardian and oneiros
>3 times the rep amount
with none of the efficiency

>>145771339
>lying on /eog/

>>145755683
because all the fun is in the planning, not the execution

i've worked out a way to earn 15bil/month with PI but i'm too lazy to do it

>>145771339
>except that one loki subsystem
even then the max level sig rad of the loki using that isn't anywhere near a destroyer, its still way over cruiser size

why do people think it's ok to act retarded on the internet?

>>145771569
I don't know anon why do you?

>>145771859
kys irl for real

you aren't witty, u a dum motherfucker

>logi t3c
>ever
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51528575/

>damn we are getting irrelevant again
>better post our personal reddit

>kys

>>145772045
you were just talking about acting retarded and then you do it.
kudos for the commitment

>>145772162
>lazerhawks
>shit people can die on good ships
oh wow this is news to me

>mfw scrubs don't realise having more tank on a logi is a good and important thing

are rigor catalysts worth it on an rlml caracal or are switching to precisions going to be enough for frigates

are there any data/relic sites that can be done in wormholes that don't have rats?

>>145774110
no, fit a web. any cheeky afterburner faggots you just get in web range and they explode

>>145774157
Yeah, plenty of them. Ruins mostly.

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>flies logi
>not flying triage fax

>>145774217

so as long as they have the npc pirate faction title they don't have rats?

>stop not talking about my capital ships guys I had to grind billions of isk for them
>I even undocked it a couple of weeks ago

>>145774206
well, i wanted to run t2 missiles, and furys do like 50% less dmg to frigates, lets say 35m sig and 1km/s. cant frigates do over 1km/s even when webbed? i feel like switching to precisions should be enough to handle them even without rigors but i dunno, having 1 seems pretty good.. i dunno, i guess even fitting 2 webs would still be better damage increase per module, assuming all slots had equal value anyway, which of course isnt true but

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>flies logi
>not frigate logi

>>145774941
just use faction m8, precisions are garbage and furies are decent for shooting cruisers but I wouldn't do a reload specifically for it if you're in a fight

>>145774517
It depends. Just look up the site name online.

it's just the same editions over and over

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>>145775165
>just use faction
b-but...
:(

>>145774528
>grind
>billions
stop projecing your insecurities about being poor

>>145776120
mfw unironic grindfags

>mfw I make hundreds of millions a day printing BPC's for people

easiest shit ever

>>145775929
Whats wrong with faction ammo?

>>145776251
>you can only make money by grind !!!1!

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>>145776369

>>145776406
you aren't making that money doing solo/small gang pvp m8. you're doing some kind of tedious gay activity for it

>>145774110
Don't use application rigs, RLML's don't need them

The only time RLML's have a problem hitting is frigates doing 5km/s+

>>145776251
>grinding is bad when you can make 2bil/h and be done with making isk in one day for free

>>145776482
interceptors more like

>>145776597
assuming the interceptor is going at least 4500m/s+ you won't have an issue applying damage

even then, that interceptor is taking about half the dps, so 150dps to a ship with sub 5k EHP

>>145776528
oh sorry m8, I didn't know your isk was free. carry on

>>145776642
even with furys?

>>145776764
you don't use furies in a caracal using RLML's

faction ammo only. People NEVER bring any other ammo

>>145776642
that speed has no relevance, and saying you'll apply fine if it's going above a certain speed makes no sense, surely you mean below

>>145776764
furies do less m8

>>145776821
but thats only because application would be bad to faster targets, right? wouldnt it be better to just bring furys and try to fit 2 webs?

>he buys plex to make money
how does it feel to put a price tag on eveything you lose?

meanwhile grindlords have both options of payment at all times

literally the worst people are the faggots that on top of paying for a sub, also pay to lose pixel ships. like holy shit ayyy lmao

>>145777123
why?

every time you buy a plex for isk it's from someone who bought it with real money m8

>>145777289
implying I buy plex for isk. FAGGOT

>>145777289
>every time you buy a plex for isk it's from someone who bought it with real money m8

>every time you fuck someone's wife it's from a guy who married a girl with real money m8

Still makes you a cuck

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>tfw glorious grindlord
>make enough isk to plex all accounts in a few hours of fun level 5s
>all the extra time and faction loot goes directly into buying ships when nobody is online
>more pilots just increase my income and allows me to plex them faster than before
>if I'm too lazy to grind more than a few hours I can just plex anyways
>always have the option to play the game for free 100%
>mfw can afford to buy a titan and a titan pilot in less than 2 weeks of very mild low effort grinding

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>>145777591
The fuck is that logic.

>>145777521
>>145777591
I don't buy or sell plex, it sounds like you're jelly because you're poor irl or something

>>145777591
you just used logic that pretty much equates simply existing to being cucked immediately.

you people need to realize that time=money. spending time playing eve (read: at all) means less time i could have made irl money. i could have also chosen to make in game isk, or i could have chosen to not make irl money, or not make isk. i could have chosen to to look for a girl, not look for a girl, or anything else.

buying plex, with real money OR isk, or buying regular game time with real money, are all the same thing. when you understand this, you will feel better about your life.

>>145776868
>that speed has no relevance, and saying you'll apply fine if it's going above a certain speed makes no sense, surely you mean below
5km/s is the point when RLML's deal 50% their damage

on a caracal shitting 350dps you're still doing a significant number to an interceptor with that sig at that speed.

>>145777770
>I don't buy or sell plex, it sounds like you're jelly because you're poor irl or something

Nice projection, minimum wagecuck.


>>145778123
>. when you understand this, you will feel better about your life

I feel great about my life knowing people will do this many mental gymnastics to justify throwing money so they can be better at a videogame.

>>145778390
>5km/s is the point when RLML's deal 50% their damage

do you know what sig radius is

>>145778598
yes and for an interceptor at 5km/s RLML's do about 50% their damage to that interceptor AT THAT SIG RADIUS AND AT THAT SPEED

>>145778650
not that guy but osmium says 30m sig, going 5000m/s, faction ammo from t2 rlml, all V, does 56dps, down from 335 potential

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>osmium

I don't know who this kreydis is but you need to take a fucking vacation out of /eog/ for a while.

>discussion about logi turns into cuck argument.

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>>145779060
if you think i didnt expect this exact post as the first reply, youre crazy

pyfa crashes for me and efts numbers are way off when i try to fit things and match skills, so i use osmium. i highly doubt osmium is as wrong as you think though, this shit is all open source and they pull libraries from the same data sources

>>145779245
the le cuck meme was about buying plex, not logi

>gets proven what a giant cuck he is for throwing money at pixel ships

>y-you need to get a l-life