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hyur boypussy

tfw no lala gf

>>145636947
Why am I unfit...

naka bp

>>145637054
that was easy

>>145636978
I wish Lalas had those proportions ingame instead of the bloated gay children we have.

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xth for worst dungeon

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Xth for Help me

Also is there an update/fix tonight or is it just maint?

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xth for the rare, elusive male lala

>>145637217
Wao, who is that cute elezen maid?

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mid

>>145637054
>desperate schfag kazegami trying to shit on other classes
what a shock

>>145637217
>men surrounding another man

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What makes catboys in this game so abusable?

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>>145637238
There's usually one that always spam /shout with some nonsense, not thaat rare.

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Get out of my head!

>>145637304
he is pretty bad

XIV'th for good morning EU

>>145637327
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
Now everything is abusable.

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>>145636813
Thanks for look at us like that, anon u3u

>I just finished the main story and wanted to know where I need to go from here.
This link:
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Guide:Progression%20and%20Level%20Locked%20Content
has a list of all the unlockables you may have missed or you may want to do.

It all depends if you have the expansion or not. You don't have it? Then unlock every lv 50 dungeon, including the 24-man raid, Crystal Tower. If you have the expansion, these things can wait, instead, do the sidequests that will lead you to the Heavensward content. These are a lot of quest, btw.

>I'm going to assume I am too late to jump on the Alexander bandwagon.
You're right on time for Alex bandwagon, what you miss is the Coil of Bahamut bandwagon

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>>145637136
But why does it specifically have to be that way?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only reasons SCH are the de facto "dps healer" is because 3 of their 4 DoTs require no accuracy and that their fairy provides unhindered healing support concurrently with your damage output?

Having the fairy not cheat and ignore Cleric Stance doesn't mean SCH just has to keep playing as discount SMN. People might just have to brace themselves for the fact that their playstyle might not remain 100% the same with a few numbers shifted around.

>Kazegami spends six hours shitposting about ast and defending whm
>doesn't even have whm leveled

wow, all opinions immediately discarded

>>145637398
Good morning anon.
I haven't even gone to bed yet.

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Dressed up potato

>>145637046
>Then realize they're opinions, silly boy.
When people have to go "well, that's just your opinion" it's the most hilarious thing in the world. As if it's anything of substance. Obviously it's a fucking opinion because it came out of my fucking mouth and isn't something we have the means to scientifically verify.

>but they're just as easily all countered with facts from the otherside

There is one fact that hasn't been countered no matter how times I present it. Why are there more WHM clears than AST clears? We're over halfway into the raid tier and WHM still has 20x more clears than AST.

"b-b-but AST is just as good for progression!"
then why do most of these AST clears only appear late in the patch? Why are most of them WHMs switching to give someone a good parse? Somehow I'm wrong about AST being bad, yet all the real data seems to indicate it. People playing the game and beating hard content don't play AST, but AST is somehow perfectly fine

>>145637523
You're not in the EU though right?
Because that would be really unhealthy...

I want more collars...

>>145637506
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1555706/

and the autist is still going

amazing isnt it?

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>>145637312
They are a demon elezen. Do not fall under their sway.

>>145637327
Donut abuse the male cats.

catboys were made for petting and cuddles. no lewd

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>>145637327
dont abuse cats

>>145637553
I must see that au ra's face.

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>>145637557
>has whm only at level 38
>thinks he can actually speak about healer playstyle or how ast and whm are the same class

you have got to be fucking kidding

>anons can't actually contribute to the argument
>they proceed to attack the person rather than talk about the game

This is what we refer to as a logical fallacy.

>>145636859

I've never had the ability to try AST but I have been interested in it. WHM I have used more than once in leveling my SCH and perhaps I have not gotten far enough with WHM but it seems relatively easy in comparison to something like SCH. I was doing the last two dungeons of the msq and kind of choked due to there being so many different people on the list at once and not being sure of who I should prioritize healing. The eight man thing is going to take getting used to, but so far I see SCH as a fun class in comparison to WHM.

I am looking forward to giving AST a try for the first time as well.

>>145636880
>>145636897
>>145636908
>>145636995
>>145637069
Thanks for the other responses too guys, but

>>145637069
what does this mean? Unlock everything?

>watching these people arguing the merits of AST
>tfw just want to play AST because it has the stylistically best animations and a great weapon.

Life is suffering.

>>145637562
It's OK, my sleep schedule is flipped to shit but I still sleep a normal amount of time.

>Lalafell will never fuck off back to /terag/ because Elin are all female and Lalafell players are all gay toddlercons.

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>>145637678
non

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>>145637205
That's not Halatali normal.

>>145637327
Only the ones that lack the spirit to save the good peoples from the great tides of evil and cruelty that sweeps across the lands.

>>145637694

Why not just play AST anyway if you like how it feels? I'm no raider but unless playing AST is costing you a spot in a group or something I don't see the issue

>>145637691
Make sure you buy the expansion as soon as you can so the remaining ARR quests give you experience and you don't have to go through as much of the drag that is HW leveling.

Refer to the link posted by >>145637464 for what people mean by "unlocking everything".

>>145637694
>People arguing
It's literally one person insisting AST is bad. AST is a good class in Diurnal Sect. Don't let others meme you out of playing a class you like. That's stupid.

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>>145637678
that's easy enough since i'm also actively posting

>>145637772
it's no big deal

>>145637739
I went to bed at 1900 last night and just got up at 0730
I was knackered.
Make sure you dont ruin yourself with that schedule! Is it for work?

>>145637878
but if AST is good why does no one play it?

>>145637772
who's the hyur

>>145637882
Weren't you on Shiva or something?

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>>145637882
I knew you were around Pops

hey kazegami i mean (((shimakaze)))

can u write a thesis statement on why u think ast is bad

like can u reach max character count and post all ur (((evidence))) over 10 consecutive posts on why u think ast is bad

maybe people will take u seriously :)

>>145637918
have you reached level 60 whm since you posted last kazegami

or are you going to desperately continue to shitpost about how the class is bad

>whm level 38
>insinuates he knows everything about class balance
what a fucking joke, neck yourself

>>145637959
worse, m a t e u s .

i wish i knew german

>>145637694
Star Globes are awful though.

Every other class has decent, down to earth weapons that server their purpose. They may have sparkly/glowing versions at end game, but if you see an NPC with a spear or a wand, it looks reasonable.
Every star glove is needlessly flashy. Why does a simple weapon have to be floating up from the user's hand? Why do the cards have to constantly be rotating around? The card sheath is fine but the globe is just obnoxious and annoying.

>>145637943
katja

>>145637663
You lewd a catboy. Don't lie to us.

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What job has the best lore? What job has the best overall aesthetic/animations?

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>>145637750
Elins are ugly. They hace horrible proportions and ugly faces. Also is a shitty game. They are 100% sexual and 0% cute.

FFXIV is comfy and Lalas are qt ~

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>>145637987
I hope you bully that random person you found on lodestone. It would be pretty funny for me

>>145637301
You look strikingly similar to me and and another hyur, it's a little unnerving.

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>>145637479
I'll just quit if they nerf WAR or SCH.

Literally the only 2 jobs in the game with fun and varied playstyles, and the devs are too retarded to bring the rest up to par so lol just nerf them right guys?

Why even bother with stance/role swapping at all? Just force every single job in the game to play around their designated DPS/Tank/Healer functions so the last few drops of fun are finally sucked out of the game so we can just quit already.

Remove cleric stance, remove deliverance, chance brd into ranger and remove songs. There, now the game is perfect and everyone gets to play exactly the same way, but with different looking gear.

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>>145637506
these are bait

have a (You) for getting triggered at game discussion

>>145637694
I was on that same boat for a few months until I just started playing the fucking job.
Despite all the trash talking about it, I found it to be a lot more fun and rewarding than WHM because of its mechanics, not just the animations and theme.
Haven't had any trouble finding a static, either, most groups don't mind having an AST and the DPS will suck your dick if you feed them balances.

>>145637918
Because most people just prefer to play WHM and there is still a stigma about AST that can't be disproven as easily as by just showing how BRD has higher DPS than MCH after the patch.

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>>145638095
To be fair most hyur look very similar! It's like the family curse.

>>145638145
but if AST is GOOD and people know it's good why do they play WHM? Are there any WHMs/ASTs here that have beaten a8s? Can you explain why you chose the job you did for it?

>>145638145
>stigma

Come on, we already talked about this.

It's been a year since HW has released and PLD, MNK, and MCH have all become relevant again, despite their stigma. Why can't AST players do the same?

>>145638051
Whoa, who let this shit opinion through the door?

The star globe is quite honestly the best weapon in the game. It's small, but it's eye catching and completely represents the class.

I'm so happy it's unique and not something boring like the SCH book, where everything is literally

>A BOOK WITH A FEATHER

Shit, give me flashiness over that boring ass shit any day.

>>145638078
who is this oddly adorable onion knight. also I agree that elins are not cute at all and completely over sexualized, while lala are cute and and only sexualized when filth like jaiba dresses them up that way.

>>145638051
I would agree, but you basically just said SCH/SMN books are decent, down to earth weapons when they're the most trash tier form of a weapon in any game ever.

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>watching Death Stranding trailer
>again

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>>145638241
At least SMN books look different.

>>145638278
What bookcases are those? I need those in my room.

>>145638121
Have fun quitting in 3.4 or 4.0 then, when they literally nerf SCH for being too powerful. Yoshi P already pretty much confirmed it, toss this

>boo boo poor SCH

Shit in the garbage on your way out.

>>145638121
>quitting if your overpowered jobs get nerfed
Do us all a favor and just unsub now please.

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>>145638121
literally nobody's asking for those things you clod. i'd claw my fucking eyes out if healer jobs didn't have cleric stance, I just don't think SCH should be the only one who gets to cheat it.

>>145638060
don't bother her please she doesn't even come here

kazegami is a literal joke

some anon has exposed him and its quite funny seeing all the damage control

>>145638208
Who the fuck is talking about WHM/AST?

>>145638230
>Why can't AST players do the same?

>>145638145
>can't be disproven as easily as by just showing how BRD has higher DPS than MCH after the patch.

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>>145638183
Yep. I stop sometimes whenever I go to a MB cause I swear i'm seeing double.

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>>145638095
There were only 2 faced that looked like they didn't have downs unfortunately

>>145638364
That patch was literally 1 week ago. You're really expecting a sudden surge of a8s BRD clears in 1 week? Are you retarded?

>>145638350
does she erp?

>>145638208
>this irrelevant AST/WHM shit again

Oh boy here we go again

Also kazegami please neck yourself pls

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>>145638421
>>145638403

i had a midlander alt once but i killed her

>>145638041
Why? I can translate.

>>145638347
>>145638329
Buy I enjoy scholar....
;~;

>>145638451
no and she's engaged to somebody

>>145638364
>Who the fuck is talking about WHM/AST?

To be fair if ast was as good as people say, people would have no issues running AST+WHM. Even if with double hots as mitigation hasn't been a must throughout alexander.

>>145638075
repondre s'il vous plait

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>>145638246
That's my Paladin's glamour, sillybutt.

how new are you?

No matter if you sexualize a Lala, they will still look cute.

>>145638463
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1555706/

here he is anon

here is mitsukai "kazegami" shimakaze

>>145638463
Please namedrop me more, anon, I need to be eliminated. Eliminate me so hard

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>>145638328
No idea. But..
>http://en.ff14housing.com/

>>145637864
>>145637464


Thank you both. And yes, I am playing on HW right now but to be completely honest with you guys I was fucking around with alts on an Balmung for RP purposes, which I never did anyway so that was a huge waste. I never leveled after a certain point.

But I got a friend on a non-rp server now and want to stay here a while. And this is my first character I have ever passed the main quest line with. So yeah now that I am here I want to see what I can see.

>>145638347
SCH isn't overpowered, everything else is just designed poorly to the point where SCH and WAR are like golden gods in comparison.

Just look at how botched DRK and AST were/are. That alone should give you real time functional knowledge of the incompetence of the dev team when it comes to building new jobs.

SCH/WAR are like people with functioning legs while everyone eles is in a wheelchair. Just make the other jobs better and more fun to play instead of nerfing the good ones.

>>145637479
Nah. They're the "DPS healer" for a number of reasons. Accuracy isn't really one of them post-3.2, since healers can just meld Accuracy materia to make all their attacks land.

The fairy is a pretty big reason why they are, but not to the extent that a WHM would find themselves able to solo-heal with the addition of fairy Embraces, but not without those Embraces (other fairy skills like Whispering Dawn or the MDef/Healing buffs wouldn't really be hindered by fairy cleric stance, since CS wouldn't affect anything except WD/Embrace, and could just be disabled for the one GCD it takes to cast Embrace).

The biggest reason though is how efficient their DPS is. Since SCH is a job for Arcanist, their attack spells need to be balanced MP-wise for SMN, an actual DPS class with a far, far smaller MP pool. So unlike WHM and AST, which incur a pretty heavy MP drain when they DPS, SCH is capable of going full-time DPS, and then still having a full MP pool for whenever they need to do a bit of healing.
Add on top of that that SCH can use Bane whenever there's a multitarget/AoE situation, for virtually the same MP cost as single-target, AND that any spare stacks of Aetherflow left over go into Energy Drain that returns even more MP than (the already pretty ridiculous) 20%/minute from Aetherflow.

Add on that since they're DoT-based, they lose the least of all healers by dropping Cleric for just a GCD or two, as long as their DoTs stay up, and that as the 'mitigation' healer, they're only really required to throw up infrequent shields and heals. Plus a fair number of their skills (Supervirus, Sacred Soil) are unaffected by CS in the first place. Meanwhile, the healers that are meant to complement them excel at the bulk, high-potency healing that ensures the off-healer will have free time to DPS.

It's a really difficult problem to solve without just butchering the class. (At the same time, it NEEDS solving)

>>145638328
pretty sure it's a riviera furniture item, so start looking from there.

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>>145638075
DRK

It's the most fun to play, but also has the highest skill floor

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>>145638501
Why waste a good midlander...

Threadly reminder that even Kazegami admitted that AST is viable.

This AST vs. WHM shitposting can end now, everyone go home.

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Reminder that this person is shitposting about people having game discussion right now.

>17th percentile

When is servers back up

>>145638784
he doesnt even have whm to 60

>>145638439
I'm saying that MCH isn't considered universally superior to BRD anymore now that the new numbers and associated theorycrafting are out.
You can't do the same with healing jobs because how well they're doing their job isn't as easily measured as just looking at the numbers a DPS job prints out, so you can't factually compare WHM and AST's performance to determine if they're in equal ground.

>>145638524
That's like saying if SMN was as good as people say, people would have no issues running it instead of a physical ranged. They're different roles even if under the same category.
AST isn't fit to replace SCH, it's fit to be a WHM alternative.

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>>145638731
Beautiful

>>145638524
>mitigation hasn't been a must throughout alexander.

You need to try getting there before you've got full tomestone gear, champ

>>145638683
>SCH isn't overpowered

Stopped reading there. You'd have to be autistic to think this, when literally everyone has been saying this since the dawn of time and even Yoshi P admits the class is too strong.

>q up Raid Finder for a8s clear party
>get an AST in the group
>they can't solo heal the first phase
>they can't keep the tank up during tank busters
>have to constantly make up for their failures
>eventually the entire party falls apart because of the AST

Never again. I'm not going to risk getting ASTs in my party through raid finder until they add a "no ASTs" option

>>145638683
>its not overpowered, everything else is just shit in comparison
You're arguing semantics at this point. There is nothing wrong with WHMs design, and yet SCH is still massively stronger due to having shields, an AE heals fairy(the same fairy also has shields) or an AE buff fairy, best mp management and 100% fairy regen uptime(with the occasional offtime spent moving it and using other abilities)

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>>145638862
I uninstalled before I could remake all my stuff at 120fps, such a shame

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>Yoshi complaining about SCH being overpowered
>Give then an ability that can be abused to make everyone invincible for 30 seconds
>An even stronger DPS skill
>Aether stacks on demand if you sacrifice your fairy

Does this guy even play his game?

>q up Raid Finder for a8s clear party
>get a WHM in the group
>they can't solo heal the first phase
>they can't keep the tank up during tank busters
>have to constantly make up for their failures
>eventually the entire party falls apart because of the WHM

Never again. I'm not going to risk getting WHMs in my party through raid finder until they add a "no WHMs" option

>>145638731
You say "highest skill floor" as if the gap between DRK and the other tanks is big. It's barely a gap, and the only additional difficulty comes from learning to manage your MP properly.

>>145638990
Why would you lie on the internet

>>145638683
Nah SCH is pretty fucking overpowered dude.

Deployment Tactics alone basically requires the devs to choose between designing around Deployment Tactics, or accepting that the content/mechanic will be rendered 100% trivial if there's a Scholar in the party.

Storm's Path is very similar and it's why WAR is also in the same boat, although you could shuffle around skills between tanks to balance things much more easily than you could fix the healers.

>>145638935
Why would you lie on the internet

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>>145638960
Devastating.

>>145638981
>Does this guy even play his game?
Do you even need to ask

>>145638853
>it's fit to be a WHM alternative.
>one can solo heal
>the other can't

nah

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>>145638742
i dont typically do well playing female characters

>>145638896
SCH doesn't exist in a vacuum.

All this AST butthurt

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>>145635596
http://i.imgur.com/xbMze8A.png

>>145636069
No futas here, just the pure girl love~

>>145638935
>implying you'd raid finder A8S
>shit that never happened: the post
t. Nervous kazegami shitter

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What is everyone doing during maintenance?

>q up Raid Finder for a8s clear party
>get a SCH in the group
>they can't solo heal the first phase
>they can't keep the tank up during tank busters
>have to constantly make up for their failures
>eventually the entire party falls apart because of the SCH

Never again. I'm not going to risk getting SCHs in my party through raid finder until they add a "no SCHs" option

>>145639169
Shitposting.

what's a kazegami

>>145639092
Can't handle all those thick, hot cocks flying your way, huh. That's a shame.

>>145637464

Okay that's what I was wondering about. Am I missing anything major out of not doing Bahamut? Storywise? Is this completely optional?

...is it fun?

>>145639169
wishing i could play so I could take photos of my character and shitpost

I mean, considering sleep.

>>145639169
shitposting

>>145638994
That doesn't negate the comment

DRK has multiple offense and mitigation skills that use MP, as well as constant fluctuation due to Darkside/Blood Price/Weapon, also tied for most abilities in the game with MCH

>>145638580
>sillybutt
Keep the erp in game please.

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Sometimes I think back on all the shit I had to go through to get where I am. All the naysayers that claimed I'll never be an avatarfag. All the relationships that suffered so I could keep my reputation up. The sleepless nights, the missed exams, the days I had to call in sick for work so I could stay up and shitpost on maint nights. Then I ask myself if it has been worth it. The answer has always been yes, but lately I've been having doubts.

What about you, anonymous? Have your sacrifices been in vain? Was it worth making them to get where you are right now?

>>145639218
>implying budspeed isnt huge

>>145639132
The nipples look so wrong.

>>145639198
Why would you lie on the internet

>All this nervous SCH shitposting about AST

So sorry you're getting nerfed soon, but don't fret, maybe Yoshi P will toss you another useless ability like Emergency Tactics to make you feel better

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>>145639169
Experiencing tranquility

>>145639041
Deployment tactics isn't even an old broken skill, they just added it with the expansion, and yet somehow now they realize how broken it can be?

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>>145639254
Never, tin can. They never are.

>>145638580
kill yourself

>>145638981
He's a retarded gook. SS + adlo + deploy is literally AE hallowed ground for most raid damage
You could probably mitigate instant kill mechanics if you pop fey covenant + illumination + dissipation beforehand

>>145638183
meria pls forget about godspeed and crush on me instead

>>145639302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3S25jnAbpI

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>>145639254
I'm still trying to reach avatarfag status, anon.
It's an endless road to god.

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>>145639169
complaining about being bored

AST AND DRK ARE DEEP AND COMPLEX JOBS, YOU'D UNDERSTAND IF YOU PLAYED THEM

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>>145639254
i am fine with the way my life has turned out thus far. i am 100% okay with everything. It's all been worth it.

Honestly they shouldn't have even bothered with adding DRK/AST/MCH in HW.

We already had something really good going with the 10 jobs from ARR. At patch 2.55, every job was viable in every role. You saw both PLDs and WARs MTing T13. BLMs and SMNs shared the caster slot evenly. MNKs and NINs were interchangable. And WHM and SCH synergized like no other.

They should have instead focused on giving more skills and traits to the existing classes rather than adding three broken classes for the sake of adding new classes.

kazegami needs a trip so i can filter his ass

he does not have whm to 60 and has the audacity to talk about healer balance

neck urself

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>>145639169
Eating some pringles.

>>145639412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTWp7YOlSaM

>>145638951
SCH is not a better healer than WHM, and can't just replace WHM healing as you'd have to be extremely on point with your cooldowns to keep up with raid damage.

If anything SCH is better than AST, which is a totally useless job that was a waste of resources and shouldn't exist.

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>>145639254
it was worth every nobody i had to step over to become king of /xivg/

>>145639218
I've been female for ages
that doesn't happen

>>145639379
Please ditch the potato.

>>145639460
this

WHAT

TO

MAIN

PLS

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>>145639169
Looking through my old screenshots

>>145639412
>tanks and healers were only balanced because there were no alternatives

Yes, it's pathetic but it was still balance.

>>145639242
You're overcomplicating it for the sake of it. DRK literally comes down to "Do I need MP to toggle Grit? If no, spend it on DA Souleater. Am I at or less than 2K MP? If no, spend it on DA Souleater." Dark Passenger is an absolute no-brainer and there's no situations in the current raid tier where you'd need liberal applications of Unleash, Unmend or Abyssal Drain for offense.

>trying to make a point with darkside
You mean the stance that's always on with the exception of down-time, with an MP drain that's almost completely negated by natural MP regen alone? Okay.

DRK's a fun class that requires a LITTLE bit more skill to be proficient at, but don't go overcomplicating it.

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>>145639495
>implying I'm not here

fuck OFF

some anons found this kazegami's lodestone

i dont see it

>>145639302
>most people always assume it's WHMs talking shit of ASTs
>truth is that SCHs are so scared of having to heal they shit on ASTs so the meta never changes from WHM+SCH
>without WHM solo healing the raid SCHs actually have to heal

Seriously, WHMs don't give 2 fucks about the raid comp, just shove a extra bard or a bard+mch to replace the co-healer. We're already used to solo heal anyways, all we need is higher dps so shit dies before our mp does.

>>145639476
Those rapist eyes. cute minion tho

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>>145639254
How many people do I need to backstab to be relevant

>>145639591
>I found this kazegami's lodestone

fix'd

>>145639476
Your name is P'roci though...

Haha, I too believe that newly introduced class of Astrologian in patch 3.0 of Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward is also bad, friends! Let us talk about how bad the class is, while never providing actual arguments as to why.

Signed,
Kazegami

post handsome males in lore chest

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>>145639286
They're ok.

>>145639576
You're missing the point entirely

"more difficult than the other tanks" =/= "requires savant levels of skill" or whatever you're implying

>>145639169
Contemplating the boring, pointless thing that is my existence on this earth before I inevitably oversleep and miss having quality time with someone I care about.

>>145639460
It's not better, but you can sacrifice Selene's buffs and your own personal DPS to still pull it off by using Eos and strictly healing 95% of the time.

>>145639585
qt lala

>>145639626
He's dead, anon.

>>145639662
that's the ugliest catboy I've ever seen

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>Yoshi could have made the leap from 50->60 balance out the healers
>Instead he made SCH even more powerful than before
>Introduced a useless 3rd wheel healer to needlessly compete for the 2nd slot
>Now can't balance content around SCH because they gave them full power shields they can AoE onto the party and a spammable DPS skill that's 2x stronger than ruin

Does Yoshi operate under the assumption that this game is constantly on the verge of death, and thus never once attempts to future proof even a single bit of content?

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>>145639254
No complaints.

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>>145639604

>>145639626
who?

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>>145639169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_zHT9xtpXo

Pretty relaxing in the background while doing other stuff

>>145639489
Are you lalafell or miqo'te?

>>145639709
Adding the third healer was the mistake, desu.

Could have just let WHM keep Graniteskin and use Stoneskin II in battle. That way the devs know that you're going into savage fights with massive shielding every single time, and could properly balance around that, instead of having to back off difficulty to make room for a poorly excecuted healer.

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>>145639683
T-thank you, anon!

>>145639709
Yoshi doesn't care about longevity improvements that's why this game still suffers from functionality issues that WoW didn't even have.

>>145639397
Would anyone notice or care if AST and DRK were removed from the game with this maintenance?

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>>145639645
>tfw maintenance started right after this was taken

how dare yoshi deny me xaela husbandos

>>145639254
I believe I have been moderately successful in promoting actual discussion in the thread by just arguing about the game, asking for opinions I actually need and answering people's questions.
It's personally rewarding to see posts I make spawn long conversations and have people I help thank me for the replies, reminds me that /vg/ is for more than just avatarfagging and shitposting.
Honestly I just want to pay moot back for all the good times he's brought me, and this is what he wanted us to do.

It's all been worth it.

>>145639641
It's bad because it's not good. This isn't rocket science

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>>145639645

>>145639813
everyone ignores the hyuran girls

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>>145639695
He's really fucking thirsty too.

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>>145639169
Ruining friendships in LoL.

>>145639736
Jesus, it's like you're trying to hypnotize me. no, please. ;-;

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>>145639645

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>>145639683
You're gonna need to take a step back.

>>145639852
>Regan in lore chest
be still my heart

Come up with interesting actions that would fit and fix a job you like in a future expansion!

>>145639169

Been putting off watching Monday Night Raw. Time to get to work on that while fucking around in Overwatch.

>>145639863
lol get whm to 60 faggot

>>145639682
You can pull it off, but if you mess up just once with cooldown usage then it's a wipe because you can't keep everyone alive.

it can be done, but only if you're making 0 mistakes, whereas it's natural for WHM.

>>145639848
Just FFlogs fags

>>145639709
To be fair, it's probably because they also gave them two throwaway skills (ET and dissipation) and thought it would balance it out. Another reason is the SCH community, which to this DAY still bitches about those skills even though the others they got are disgustingly good.

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>>145639898

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>>145639169

>>145640015
The SCH community is literally the most cancerous community in the entire game. Full of angry, defensive, self-entitled manchildren who think they're top shit just because they can toss out a Broil every now and then.

>>145639848
Hell, I wouldn't mind.
Tired of getting shitter DRKs in roulette that don't know what a cooldown is.

>>145639872
nice boobs paris

>>145639994
War: Steel Cyclone gives a short Dmg reduction

>>145639994
This probably wouldn't fix shit, but I'd like to see WHM or a new healing class get Reverse as a primary dps tool. Just something interesting that isn't the same cleric stance cross class thing we have going now.

All these
>t. Scholar shitter
Posts are making my day. Scholar is getting nerfed thanks to Astrologian and there's not a thing these scholar mains can do about it.

>>145639169
Fapping. Now post lewds already.

>>145640003
SCH is still extremely capable no matter what role it plays is my point, which speaks volumes for how overpowered it is.

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>>145638403
If it weren't for glamours I don't think I'd be able to pick my midlander out in a crowd of them. It's comfy in a way! If dragons attack we'll be able to confuse them by moving in a horde. Like zebras.

jesus christ, theres way too many gayboys in tittywindows for me to reply to at once

stop it

>>145640037
>filters
are you a woman irl?

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>>145640085
I try.

OFFICIAL HEALER TIERS:

GOOD:
WHM
SCH

BAD:
AST

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>>145639169
Listening to podcasts while shooting planetmans.

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>>145640168
epic my friend ;^)

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>>145639379
It's not going to be easy, anon. There are countless challenges ahead of you. Most people think avatarfagging is just posting a picture and saying some shit, but it's so much more than that. The road ahead of you is a hard one, and in the end, it might not even be worth it. Best of luck.

>>145639605
Sorry, I'm not a master of the backstabbing arts. Ask my good friend Seto To.

so when can i start reporting AST players for actively ruining my play experience by being trash at healing

>>145640068
Agreed. The reactions here and posts prove it. They're going to be pulled from their special spot and they're all throwing a shit fit about it.
I feel bad for the AST community. Gets shit on constantly for no good reason.

>>145640265
AST is being removed during maintenance, so you won't have to worry

>>145640015
Emergency Tactics and Dissipation are great though, it just isn't necessary once your WHM (You do have a WHM co-healer, don't you?), learns how to solo heal the fight, which can take awhile so there's no reason you shouldn't be using it until then.

Plus if you're not using either in DF or PF then you're probably a selfish shit and not helping your main healer fill in the gaps.

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>>145640247
Thanks, helmet-san!
Enjoy your (You)!

>>145640247
> 2016. Wears the armor everyone hated the look of back three years ago..

why do this?

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>>145640139
I have none of this character, as for everybody else, I wish I had something you could all come and do as a community; maybe I'll host a Terraria server or something next maint.

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>>145639873
>hyuran
You mean Midlander.
A bunch of Highlanders use face 2 and don't even change it or just think they can make any changes to it and it's fine because it's the more feminine face of the four without realizing they just look like a cheap mannequin (unattractive).
Midlanders, on the other hand! The majority of them just roll big eyes, big lips, soulless girls. Seriously rare to run into someone that uses face 2 or 4. Face 3 is a little difficult to work with. Basically they get written off because "all" of them look alike and it's terrible.
Liora is an excellent example of the greatest potential Midlanders can tap into but don't.
So which one are you?

>>145640184
t. kazegami with no whm lvled to 60

>>145640457
Honestly, a terraria server would be pretty cool with you fucks. Now only if I didn't have to sleep.

>>145640320
AST was designed to be shit on because it's a shit job that was obsolete out of the box, and the only way it can be good is if SCH is nerfed.

>>145640457
>Terraria
Would play

>>145638683
Square is just too afraid to change anything now.
Back in the day when WAR was shit, they didn't just tack on a little bit of potency and hope it worked, they turned Vengeance into Sentinel and added mitigation to Inner Beast, and the end result is an incredibly well designed tank that can use defensive skills offensively and offensive skill defensively.

Meanwhile we have DRK whos own abilities don't work together, and they don't work with anyone around them - Grit forbids Blood Weapon, lack of Grit forbids HP drain on Souleater, you can't benefit from Ballad for some asinine reason and Delirium should apply the same debuff as Dragon Kick so DRK/MNK could have the WAR/NIN synergy.

Shit's dumb yo.

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>>145640450
Shut up nerd, it's still the most fitting armor in the game compared to all the skimpy leather and cloth stuff you see

Can anyone post the new 3.3 dungeon tank stuff?

>>145640534
t. mad SCH shitter

Have fun getting nerfed

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>>145640481
>So which one are you?

A good one I hope!

>>145640609
>DRK/MNK could have the WAR/NIN synergy
DRK/MNK would beat the living shit out of DPS records if this was the case

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MAINT FOR?

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>>145640518
>>145640593
Alrighty, I get my new net tomorrow hopefully so I can deal with port things and IP then.

I use to play BGO with anons in another game, but I feel like people here would find it less fun.

>>145640142
SCH having a high skill ceiling doesn't mean that every SCH is going to be able to hit it.

If a SCH becomes able to heal on par with a WHM, then that means he's in the top 1% of SCHs and only represents the maximum potential of the job, and not it's overall usage or execution.

Knowing a fight 100% and never once making a single mistake to pull something like that off sounds like a fine balance to me.

>>145640609
>Dark Arts adds dodge to Dark Dance, a parry cooldown, on a job that needs to take damage to recover MP

>>145640696
>DRK/MNK would beat the living shit out of DPS records

You mean MNK would potentially have an invite to raids again.

As a scholar who hasn't got far enough in the game to unlock ast, I feel unfairly prejudiced against.
I just wanted to play a healer with a pet

>>145640481
>generic blonde bimbo
>best
kekkity

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anyone wanna play a game during maint or something

maybe talk about things...................

>>145640684
Are you who I was responding to? I thought this was a new character. She looks really good, would impregnate.

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WHM is the best and cutest healing class, isn't it?

>>145640481
the fem midlanders here are all p cute imho. liora's slutty pretty, >>145640160
meria is innocent worried waifu qt, >>145640684 is cute in a could kick your ass way

>>145639994
Give AST a shortish cooldown that puts a shield buff on a target.
On Diurnal, the damage absorbed large but the duration short, and after expiring it applies a DoT on the target equaling the damage absorbed, stretching a tank buster into a twelve second series of moderate hits.
On Nocturnal the damage absorbed is a bit less and the duration a bit more, after expiring it puts down a ticking debuff on the target that will deal all the absorbed damage when it expires, but any shields cast on the target go into reducing the strength of the debuff instead of actually shielding, so you can retroactively add up a bunch of shields to soak a tank buster.

Probably wouldn't be a game changer for the job but I think it'd be fitting for the theme and a bit of extra utility is always nice.

Where is Squid?

>>145640764
>successful parry has chance to reset cooldown on low blow, not reprisal
>useless on magical enemies

>NA should be asleep
>EU should be at work
Who is even on?

>>145640609
I'd not mind being able to use Reprisal without parrying while Dark Arts is active so I don't feel bad telling my PLD friend to off tank everything.

>>145640747
Palace of the Dead, you dip.

>>145640819
kill yourself

>>145640874
NEETs.

>>145640882
wrong, that's next month

>>145640917
But a NEET's room is often incredibly messy, so wouldn't the title be a lie?

>>145640609
They purposely made DRK that way because they want to preserve the most rigid trinity system ever, and WAR/SCH are just aberrations from a time when the game needed some diversity for a hook, and now that the game has a base it's no longer needed and will never be implemented again for as long as development continues.

>>145640819
heh. it's at least better than AST

t. kazegami

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>>145640789
I just bought ARR a couple days ago so I'm still learning the ropes :3

>>145640835
Unfortunately, I'm not mean enough to hurt someone else.

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>>145640819
agree

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>>145640621
2nd from the right

alternatively look at berserker's scale mail/viking mail on google or something

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>>145640892
Please don't bully the little guy.
For me?

>>145640917
Well.
Yeah... I guess...
There's that many...?

>>145640850
ya what ^ kid

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Sex hair

>>145641021
This is an MMO general on /vg/
What do you think?

How good is the discord's lfg chat for actually getting people in groups?

Is there some secret way to level gather/crafter classes to 60? I recently leveled weaver from 20something to 50 just spamming leves and whichever had the lowest cost/create ratio, but it burned through all my allowances and still cost a stupid amount that isn't sustainable.

I see quite a few people with many if not all of the DoH/DoL classes at 50-60 and I can't believe that many people just spent millions on gil and a shitton of time over the course of forever grinding leves and waiting for allowances to restack.

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>>145640835
Don't forget this one. She has giant eyes like the soulless legion but makes them look good. Like she's in a constant mood of compassionately furrowed brow.
I really like the pompadour.

>>145641007
What about Yaefaemi stuff or whatever?

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>>145640778
>tfw you just want to help heal as SCH but everyone makes you DPS
>Yoshi decides to nerf SCH to fix it
>Doesn't just make fights require more healing and less DPS checks so that SCH has to heal more

I'm positive I could balance this game better than these paid professionals.

>>145641063
discord is designated shitting channel only

>>145641002
>I just bought ARR a couple days ago so I'm still learning the ropes :3
And already shitposting. They grow up faster and faster each generation!

>>145641060
I don't know I've not been here long

>>145640481
>liora
>best
meria is the best midlander desu

>>145641096
People who just bitch at the WHM to heal harder

>>145641002
You're probably not on Balmng, then. Start posting your toes and I'll bring the XXX-rated text.

>>145641036
How does it feel to get cucked by Nori?

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>>145641089
2nd from right again

>>145641074
Yes there is, but I can't tell you cuz then you'll tell everyone! I must keep my secret safe! Safe!

>>145640518
>>145640754
http://www.strawpoll.me/10497998

What do Au Ra toes taste like?

>>145641174
>fellow Egghyur appreciator putting words in my mouth
You dishonor her with your impulsive defense. Shameful display.

>>145641179
To be fair main healing has a pretty high skill ceiling so a real good WHM could probably pull through it regardless of how tough it might be.

>>145641243
>literally reskinned Adamantite
wow

I want them to make another set like Darklight/Heavy Wolfram, those have been the biggest sets for a long time now

>>145640874
But it's summer break

>>145641263
If we're doing expert, corruption for worm scarf of cheating. Otherwise, crimson.

>>145641074
I got Weaver to 56 recently and didn't spend that much money.

Were you not turning in HQ leves and doing beast tribe quests or something?

Also I'm almost positive that gathering is almost exclusively leveled via leves.

>>145640593
I misquoted >>145641263

>>145641335
So?
What time is it.

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>>145641329
i don't think you know what literally means or what adamantite armor looks like

>>145641329
>yafaemi
>reskinned adamantite
Get your eyes checked, buddy.

As someone who has just finished the story there's something that still has yet to sit right with me. Just what made Nero so important that he could show his face but none of the others couldn't?

>>145641448
>>145641450
http://xivdb.com/item/10681/Adamantite+Armor+of+Fending

>>145640481
I did mean midlander.
And I don't know what face I am I don't visit the cc often
I also agree that it's very hard to make a good highlander. midlanders and highlanders are completely different despite being the same race

>>145641074
>level gather
Expend Allowances.
Accrue Allowanaces.
Repeat.
>crafter
Same, except there are now two Beast Tribes that assist in leveling them.
It will take longer than gatherer but it's not difficult and naturally worth the journey.

>>145641002
Server?

>>145641516
I guess because Nero had longstanding beef with based Cid?

>>145641538
Not even remotely close. Get your eyes chucked, buddy.

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I wish the servers weren't down, I miss my lala buddy.

>>145641431
Early morning?
What's wrong with browsing the internet while having your breakfast?

>>145641074
Grand Company turn ins, make sure you do the stars every single day and HQ them if you can.
I took every craft from 1-60 by just turning this shit in.

>>145641538
Still looks nothing like the Yafaemi set. You sure you aren't blind?

>>145641538
it looks nothing like THAT either you dumb asshole

>>145641538
that still doesn't look anything like the yafaemi shit

>>145641516
Nero was gay for Cid and never an actual threat. The other Garlean's also aren't full retard like him.
PS you aint finished the story yet son. You're maybe at the half way point.

>>145641624
If it's late enough in the morning for breakfast, you're not American.
And I don't know any eu countries that are in holiday season yet.

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>>145641672
Sure the color scheme/detailing is different, but the silhouette seems really similar between the sets

If someone wants to post side-by-sides from the actual game, that'd be helpful

>>145641174
if i fanta into male au ra and stand in an open field long enough will meria gravitate towards me and be my friend?

>>145641807
It looks more like the PLD AF gear.

>>145641858
Franz did this, don't think it worked.

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>>145641807
5 seconds on lodestone

>>145641807
>b-but the silhouette!
No shit, the silhouettes of ALL tank coats are similar you retard. Yafaemi Coat of Fending looks nothing like the Adamantite coat. Get your eyes checked.

I play scholar and astrologian because they are fun, what is this world war 3 shit about? Was there some sort of dimensional rift and we've transported to an alternate reality where it's December 2015 and xivg is full of world progression raiders with equal chances at the title?

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>>145641619
We can always play tomorrow, buddy! :D

>>145641516
Nero had actual Garlean blood in him while the others were just jobbers to the most supreme

>>145641916
>:D
I fucking hate Lalafells.

>>145641871
If you say so, but then again armor looks like shit on cats so it's hard to tell

>>145641906
>just a black leather shirt with plates on it
nvm it looks even worse

>>145641619
>power has been out since 10pm
>it is now 3am
I slept through maintenance.
Well not quite it seems.

>>145641919
Tbh the white armour chick did want to slobber all over the 'big bad's knob

>>145641896
last time i saw him talk to her he made cringey women belong in the kitchen jokes don't think being a lizard can redeem him

>>145641996
>UGH IT ALL JUST LOOKS THE SAME!
>WHY DOESN'T THIS LOOK THE SAME!?

variety, dumbass

>>145641908
Not true

Dreadwyrm, High Allagan, Midan, and Adamantite are all pretty unique, even Void Ark has its own thing going on, can't pull others off the top of my head

Yafaemi there just looks extremely similar to Adamantite

>>145641735
Well duh, I'm European.
>And I don't know any eu countries that are in holiday season yet.
Your lack of knowledge does not somehow invalidate facts.

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>>145639852
wow dx9 really kills the cleavage, you should see it on my computer
>>145639926
Hello anon, you know my name, but I have nothing to call you. Would you like a name?

>>145642067
fucking kek. stop trying sadcuck, seriously.

>>145642073
It looks pretty fucking bad with open sleeves tbf famm