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Retard needs help fighting Chalice Rom, anyone want to help?

>>145524519
I'll help; set a pass.

>>145524808
I'll ring the bell by the door. Pass is rom.

>>145525076
>>145524808
For some reason it won't let me ring the beckoning bell. My ps+ is still active and I'm playing online. Do you know why it wouldn't let me ring?

>>145525173
I'm stupid. I was too close to the fog.

Ringin!

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May you find your worth in the ______ world.

>>145525627
2D

I'm going to USE this BLOOD ROCK on my HUNTER'S TORCH and you CAN'T STOP ME!!

Thank you anon! I managed to kill her after you died.

What was that crazy weapon you were using? I've never seen a big mace looking thing like that before.

I'm at the Grand Cathedral and I can't figure out how to open this gate. I talked to the dude that wanted to cooperate and I agreed to cooperate. He told me some stuff and gave me items.

>>145526402
Visit Old Yharnam

>>145526402
You're not meant to open it yet. Explore more near the Cathedral Ward lamp and you'll find where you need to go.

>>145526510
There's a door near there that I cant open. The only other way out it the doorway by the mean old lady that leads to the other Hunter that I talked to already.

>>145526643
Keep exploring the building that the hunter you met was in, and you'll find a secret exit.

>>145526782
ok thanks.

>>145526306
Bloodletter.

Glad you managed to take her out.

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somebody plz come help a filthy scrub with maria. pass is bbg

>>145527601
Heading over now.

>>145527601
You ringin' anon?

>>145528016
yes

>>145528194
Lumenwood Garden, right?

>>145528271
luv u

EG too fuckin' gud
>>145528579
No problem mate

It turns out if you stake drive the One Reborn's fleshy cock, he instantly goes into his stun animation, then you can stake drive his fleshy man body to reset the stun animation

Same with Darkbeast Paarl and Amendozu, Messenger of the Four-Layer Star World

I'm really not looking forward to trying to stake drive the Orphan of Kosm though

>>145526187
D:

>>145526187
You mean you've only just +10'd it?

Is it worth investing the extra 25 STR for the saif or would I be alright with min STR? Trying to pick a weapon for a pure SKL build.

>>145526187
K. Its useful for those fucking slimes and scorpions if you've got no alternatives.

Don't h8 the torch.

Anybody up for co-oping through Cainhurst? If I get no bites, I'll just go it alone.

Pass: fire

How much END does it take to get above 150? With and without dem runes

>>145532846
where are you?

>>145533580
In the main hall. I'll rering again

>>145533240
37 Endurance with no runes. 10% rune = 5 end. 15% rune = 7 or 8 end depending on rounding. 20% rune = 10 end.

>>145533657

Neat

Gonna rering at the fog if you want to try again Alba. Had him down 3/4 of the way but he's got stupidly high arc res so

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So despite E3 and Zelda looking cool.

I still couldn't give two shits about anything other than Bloodborne. Why is this happening to me bros?

>>145534816
actually I havent started Cainhurst. can you ring at elevator?

>>145534967
Alright, I'll make my way back down

Cheers for the help there man. Loggy has one hell of a phase 2 fight

>>145534893
Same, this years wasn't even funny and no games. I liked Kojimas thing and have high hopes for that even though we won' see it for years and it won't be Silent Hill. Which is all I want in life.


But I was either playing Bloodborne or thinking of BB builds all E3

Completely new to borne. Can a single weapon carry me through the game? Like the hunters axe?

It has taken me to Rom but I'm sure there must be better str weapons

>>145537961
Yeah it can. Probably better out there statistically, but it's up to you which moveset you like. If you like the axe so far stick with it until you find something else that catches the eye

>>145535731

I just want a new Red Dead Redemption or Bloodborne 2.

I hate how people use the "no more sequels bro!" but the western genre and lovecraftian settings are so pitifully underused in vidya that I simply don't understand how they could be branded as rehashes

>>145537961

Yeah

The hunter's axe is pretty good

>>145538297
Bloodborne 2 wouldn't be bad just because it's a rehash, Anon. Bloodborne 2 would be bad because it would be made by the people who made Dark Souls 2. Miyazaki will be working on something else no longer giving a shit, and they'll completely miss the point and fuck it all up. Then with 2 out they'll be forced to make a 3, and it'll just be a shitty attempt to copy what made the first one good whilst not actually understanding what made the first one good. Is that what you want? This glorious game to be shit upon in that way?

Pray for more Lovecraftian things if you wish. Pray for more Victorian adventures into insanity if you wish. But to ask for more Bloodborne is to pray for doom.

>>145539318

Why not pray for a Miyazaki developed Bloodborne 2 :^)

>>145539925
Because then I might as well be praying for the Plain Doll to jump out of the screen and give a handjob. It would be equally as likely.

Merge

>>145543724
Its pronounced 'Mergo'

Is it even worth bothering upgrading a saw weapon if I've already got the Saif maxed out? I like using the saw spear but its only advantage seems to be the serrated damage.

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If you went through the game and replaced every instance of the word ''hunter'' with 'hugger'' and the word ''hunt'' with ''hug'', well I feel like bloodborne would be a very different game.

>>145545340
If you have the extra materials to upgrade it, there's no reason not to. Gives you an extra option to use as well.

>>145534893
Last Guardian, Kojima's bullshit, maybe God of War depending how they handle the premise, and potentially the new Spiderman game will be good.

And I like Days Gone's post-apoc bounty hunter premise.

>>145545626
I'm low on chunks at the moment and there are a few other weapons I want to upgrade as well so I guess I'll put it at the back of the line.

I don't know why From decided to make chunks so fucking hard to farm in this. Especially when they made all the weapons so unique and fun to try so you don't want to stick with just one forever.

>>145545340
You may as well if you are having fun with it. Upgrade materials are not longer rare with the chalice updates. If you are asking if there is a practical reason to upgrade it, then not really. Just stick to the saif, unless you are having more fun with the saw spear.

>>145526187
That would have been crazier before you could just farm as many rocks as you want.

>>145545737
Wut? I can get 6 chunks/4 chunks+ a rock in about 10 minutes.

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So was she pregnant or turning into a rom spider?

>>145545695
As someone who has never played God of War, the new God of War thing makes, like, no sense to me. Kratos is an old dad guy now? Maybe that makes sense with his backstory or something to somebody who is familiar with the game, but to me, it makes no sense. It's like imagining Dante settling down into a family life in the countryside. I mean, Kratos is just some angry asshole who goes around killing literal gods for shits and giggles?? And now he lives in a cabin in the woods, or something. It's completely incongruous with everything else I've seen from the series.

>>145546548
Then entire Kratos went full genocide on the gods because the previous god of war tricked him into killing his previous wife and child. Him wanting to be a father isn't out of character.

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I want to feed on saint adeline's lucious bed

>>145546517
Rom is a unique being. She wasn't pregnant because if she was she'd have given birth like Arianna. I'd speculate she was hearing the voices of Great Ones, following in Caryll's footsteps. She acts exactly like Adeline.

is there any enemy more sickening in this game than the bloodlickers?

>>145548959
The Crogs are pretty bad.

>>145549061
what? they don't even put up a fight

>>145549125
I thought you meant visually sickening. The Fleas are a non-issue gameplay-wise; you can just stun-lock them to death.

The only enemy in the game that is legit bullshit are the Frenzy dolls. Yes, I can easily beat them too, but no enemy should be able to damage without touching you. It goes against the whole tough but fair thing that souls games were built around. Even the Jailers in DaS3 are less bullshit.

>>145546119
What farming method do you use?

>>145549378
Make the a chalice with this glyph: ptwrx6tb

Rush to the levers then rush to the boss rooms. Do all 3 layers that way. All three layers combined take around 10 minutes total. All three bosses are easy (Brainsucker, Watchers, Emissary by itselt), and the Emissary has a chance to drop a rock. I usually get my first rock in around 2 to 4 runs then a few of them back to back.

Obviously, you want to use a few eye runes too, but every boss kill ends up giving me 1 or 2 chunks.

>killing arianna's baby thing kills her too
y tho

anyone up for helping me in isz?

>>145549970
So you get her shoes.

So Henryk was Gascoigne's wife's father?

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>>145551786
maybe

>>145551786
Maybe, but also maybe not on account of them being different colours and all.

can someone please post the "optimal bloodtinge" build again? the one thats able to use most of the BT weapons

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>>145554179
14/15 str/skl minimum, or pic related for maximum fun

>>145554179
You mean Luci's build?

Please no

>>145554179
50/15/14/15/50/6 BL 100.

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>>145554330
117 vwersion

>>145554330
>>145554394
>>145554450
thanks

>>145554179
>build allowing you to wield multiple weapons
>optimal
no u little shit

Why are the two hunters in the Nightmare Frontier?

>>145555494
I don't know but maybe since it's a sinister bell area it's meant as a sort of pseudo-invasion for people who are in offline mode? It's been a while since I did that area I can't remember too well

The enemy variety in the Isz dungeons really shows how bottom-heavy this game is. There really should have been less focus on beasts and more on the cosmic shit that happens after Rom, or at least some more Kin enemies instead of just ayy lmaos and brainsuckers.

>>145555494
They fell for Patches' bullshit.

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Don't mind me, trying something new

>>145558864
Rolling

Where is the DLC version of this? I know there's one floating about somewhere

>>145559197
Been trying to find it too, but it has not showed up

>>145559197
>Milquetoast
>Reiterpallasch
>Ludwig's Rifle
>Poison/Throwing Knives
>Bone Marrow Ash
>Fool's Blood Gem
> >10 insight
>Hunter of Hunters

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Is it worth trying to use the Steak Driver on an ARC build?
I feel like it could be fun but i'm a bit worried about having to invest in 18 STR.

So if I make an Isz Root Chalice with all the offerings that unlocks every possible glyph right?

>>145559671
It will, but you need to also have found (not made, just found) Ihyll and Lower Loran root chalices if you want to go to those areas as well.

>>145559785
Ah so I still need to kill the queen to unlock everything then?

>>145559583
if you get to 12 skill you can also use the whirligig or get to 20str and use the tricked wheel

>>145559845
No, you only have to kill hblb in layer 2 for Ihyll, but Darkbeast in Layer 3 Lower Loran. Queen can be ignored but most finish her anyway.

>>145559932
It's a themed build that's mostly going to use the Driver.
I've had enough of Whirly on my STR build for now.
Also, are Molotovs worth re-stocking and using at 70 ARC or should I just stick to EG spam like usual?

>>145560073
molotovs are shit past the cleric beast, don't bother

>>145560159
Even though they scale with ARC?

>>145537961
There are no bad weapons in Bloodborne, anything can get you through the entire game.

>>145539925
Miyazaki was involved with DaS3 and look how that turned out. Pretending that Miyazaki is the sole difference between a great Souls game and a good Souls game is just delusional.

>>145560214
Throwing knives scale with skill/str too, the scaling is terrible on items

>>145560405
Eh, I guess you're right.

>>145560241
>Miyazaki was involved with DaS3

DaS3 has three different director credits and it was in development at the same time as Miyazaki was directing Bloodborne.

He was as involved in it as Itsuno was involved in DMC2.

Can anyone help me to kill the shadow of yharman?

>>145562831
Post a password nigga and i'll head over.

>>145562857
bbg, l'll be ringing next to the forbbiden woods lamp

>>145562940
Ringin'

>>145563043
your name appears censored if case you didn't know mate

>>145563215
Well, fuck.
What part of it?
rip

Damn l shouldn't have jumped there haha

ringing again?

>>145563554
Yeah, sure.
It was a surprise seeing that it's NG+ though.

>>145563541
lt appears as The Last S******

Did they fix being able to hit the Church Pick NPC through the cell door?

>>145563656
Good work mate.
Also
In what fucking universe is "cholar" an inappropriate word?
Like seriously i'm looking it up and everything.

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>>145564357
From's name censors are retarded, check out the dark souls 2's banned names

https://omgftw.github.io/DarkSouls2CensorCheck/

>>145564582
Yeah but I though BB's was more lax than DaS2's. You can do stuff in the former that'd be censored in the latter.
Now i'm paranoid about the next character i'm working on.

>>145564357
Chola is considered as inappropriate as saying "darkies" or "mulato", wordfilters can do two ways it can do trim replace, or append replace.

Trim replace: S*****r <- Just replaces offending area

Append replace: S****** <-replaces offending part and everything afterwards to avoid slang or corrupted word issues

They check multiple languages. I had one name rejected because it was something in italian.

Anyone up for normal Rom?

l'll be ringing next to the bonfire pass is bbg

>>145564695
Man that's really dumb. You literally can't use "scholar" in a game where it's highly appropriate.
This is as bad as not being able to use "knight" in DaS2/3.

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>>145564582
>>145564663
It's a really odd system they use, whatever it is.

>>145564848
ln what fucking language is knight considered an offensive word? what the hell

>>145564952
Because it has "nig" in it.
So it'd appear as k***ht.
>>145564912
See that's what I meant. I thought BB was far more lax since you can use that shit and figured it'd only block out the most blatant curses.

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>>145564846
>bonfire

chikage normal uncanny or lost?

>>145565423
Depends on the build. If you don't know the difference check the wiki.

>>145566115
lt's a 50 bloodtinge build

>>145548587
>She wasn't pregnant because if she was she'd have given birth like Arianna
She was going to give birth, that's why she was in that position.

>>145566259
Lost

>>145563829
No, you can still do it. Beast Cutter cuts through everything.

>>145566259
If you have a huge +blood damage circular gem, Lost might be better than Normal for tricked mode. Otherwise, Normal with +physical in every slot works fine for both modes.

>>145548587
>Rom is a unique being
Except that there's a Rom-looking spider thing at the Altar of Despair. Still not sure what it's meant to be. Plus there's chalice Rom, but I consider chalices to be non-canon or memories or something, so that doesn't count.

>>145567434
That's her corpse, the rom you fight it's her consciousness in a dream, just when you find micolash corpse and fight him in the nightmare

>>145567434
Chalice Rom, Byrgenwerth Rom and Altar Rom are the same being.
The one in the dungeon is Rom before Byrgenwerth found it, the one in the Lake is its dream incarnation and the one in the altar is Rom in the waking world.
Only a retard would claim that Chalice Dungeons are not canon by the way.

>>145566721
She's in that state for longer than Arianna is. Furthermore the Umbilical Cord you get from her talks about Willem and lining the brain with eyes, alluding to the fact it was originally his (well, not originally, but his before she and Yurie took it), whilst Arianna's talks about Great One's impregnation.

So either she was going to give birth to Willem and for no explained reason it takes her longer to pop the kid out than Arianna, and whilst Arianna is just feeling a bit ill at first Fauxsefka's going nuts talking about things writhing inside her head and how she can see things (unspecified) because hey pregnancy's weird right, or she just wasn't actually pregnant at all.

>>145567719
>She's in that state for longer than Arianna is
They don't have to give birth at the exact same time, that doesn't make sense.
>she was going to give birth to Willem
Am I being baited?

>>145567719
>alluding to the fact it was originally his
No, alluding to the fact that she was lining eyes with her patients brains to make them emissaries.

>>145567668
>Only a retard would claim that Chalice Dungeons are not canon by the way

The idea of a conciousness being in two places at the same time is retarded

>>145568143
>Laurence's bones can be found in the waking world
>his entire body can be found in the nightmare, alive

>>145567884
>Am I being baited?
It's called sarcasm, Anon.

The cord talks about Willem and his philosophy. Fauxsefka is clearly a Choir member. We find a Choir member in Byrgenwerth. 1+1=2. They stole the cord off Willem. Therefore it's not a naturally occurring cord, therefore she wasn't pregnant.

And again, we've seen how someone acts when pregnant with a Great One. They do not talk about seeing things and feeling writhing in their head. And what does the cord mention other than Willem? Lining the brain with eyes.

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>>145568047
>lining eyes with her patients brains

>>145568208
>They stole the cord off Willem
So why is it inside her body?
>we've seen how someone acts when pregnant with a Great One
Everyone reacts differently to pregnancy. Some people find it a bad experience, other people find it a good experience. Some people give birth after nine months, others give birth after ten months.
Fake Iosefka was aware of what was happening inside her body so she could rationalize it, Arianna had no idea about what was happening so she was just hurt and scared.

>>145568361
How did they turn into celestial emissaries?

>>145568191
What does this have to do with what l've said? Yes, he's dead but his conciousness is still trapped in a nightmare just like gehrman or micolash. But it's not 'divided' into two diferent places like the chalices dungeons do with rom or the yahrman queen, that idea is retarded

What? You suddently get a copy of your 'soul' when you enter a nightmare? Then that's not the real you.

>>145568446
>So why is it inside her body?
It wasn't. Were Arianna's shoes in her body? Are the QS bullets and Blood Vials that drop off mobs in their bodies?

>>145568446
>Fake Iosefka was aware of what was happening inside her body so she could rationalize it
By talking about something that has nothing to do with being pregnant?

>>145568549
Certainly not by lining random eyes with their brains.

>>145568759
But that's exactly how people become great ones.

>>145567719
>it takes her longer to pop the kid out than Arianna
Because Arianna is impregnated earlier in the night, when you send her to Oedon chapel. Fake Iosefka has to make ayylmaos to make contact beforehand because she's not inside a chapel and she doesn't have high-grade Cainhurst blood like Arianna.

>Fauxsefka's going nuts talking about things writhing inside her head and how she can see things (unspecified) because hey pregnancy's weird right, or she just wasn't actually pregnant at all.
I always interpreted this as her having high insight. She is carrying an infant Great One, but she's aware of what's happening, whereas Arianna doesn't know shit about the Choir or the cosmos.

>>145568208
>They stole the cord off Willem
At what point is it ever mentioned that Byrgenwerth had a cord?

>>145568647
>Were Arianna's shoes in her body?
No, but her umbilical cord definitely was.

>Are the QS bullets and Blood Vials that drop off mobs in their bodies?
Both are made with blood, and the blood comes from their bodies.

>By talking about something that has nothing to do with being pregnant?
The line "it proves that I'm chosen" implies a lot.

Anyone up to bully Micolash?

it's ng+ so he may bully us instead

>>145568861
Anon I'm mocking the fact you're saying lining their eyes with brains instead of lining their brain with eyes.

Although the celestial mobs, the smaller fat heads, they're not Great Ones. Only the actual Celestial Emissary among them counts as a bonafide GO.

>>145568884
>At what point is it ever mentioned that Byrgenwerth had a cord?
1. The cord you find in the abandoned workshop talks about MP and the Hunter's Dream therefore it was the one used by Gehrman and Laurence to summon MP. The cord you get from Mergo mentions Mensis and the encounter between them and Mergo therefore it was the one they used to summon the kid. The cord you get from Arianna's kid mentions Oedon impregnating bitches therefore Oedon impregnated the bitch. The cord you get from Fauxsefka mentions Provost Willem seeking a cord in order to elevate his being therefore (combined with the fact we find Yurie in his house) it belonged to him.
2. The nigger summoned Rom.

>she doesn't have high-grade Cainhurst blood like Arianna
Which is just more evidence for the fact she wasn't pregnant. We know of only two lesser beings (so to speak) who are impregnated by a Great One; one's a Pthumerian and the others a descendant of them.

Does anyone want to co-op Rom with me? At the lamp. Password is bbg.

>>145569617
omw

>>145569617
wow, sorry about dying that fast

lf you died too l'm ringing again

>>145568990
The cord we find in the Abandoned Workshop is connected to a table therefore the table was pregnant. Werebeasts drop oil urns, I suppose they carry them around in their ass? Come on Anon, you're reaching.

>The line "it proves that I'm chosen" implies a lot.
You'll notice she says that right after saying, "I can see things," and right before saying, "Don't you see? How they writhe, writhe inside my head..."

Compare her dialogue to Adeline.

>>145570010
>killing a woman in a birth position and assuming that the umbilical cord she drops comes from her is reaching

>>145569991
Just died. Bear with me

>>145546517
Nice feet

>>145570157
l'm ringing next to the lamp

>>145570098
Saying that it's impossible for her to have been carrying it through some other means because she drops it when you kill her therefore it must have been undoubtedly inside her because QS bullets are made of blood and that's proof apparently is reaching, yes.

I'm not saying that it's unreasonable to assume she was pregnant. I thought the same once too. But her dialogue, the cord's description, the very location and fact Yurie's in Byrgenwerth at all, and the fact we've only seen Pthumerians be impregnated and a Pthumerian she ain't (no matter what Loranon says) all makes that not add up.

jesus christ those spider sure do some damage, we better kill them first

is this ng+?

[spoiler[ringing again in case you didnt success[/spoiler]

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>>145570391
What's with her position then, and why during the red moon phase.

>>145570278
Hang on a few minutes

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>running through pthumeru depth 1 a few times on a new ARC build
>after moving the lever, jump off the axe bridge below to get away from the summons so I can mark out
>they literally teleport right next to me from the room prior and interrupt me

>>145570391
>we've only seen Pthumerians be impregnated
To be fair we see a lot of mini-Ebrietas babies in upper cathedral ward, the exact same kind of thing that Arianna gives birth to. I think the implication is that the Choir succeeded in making dozens of worthy vessels.

>>145571024
Weird shit happens when you go 2fast. I was sprinting from Gascoigne to Oedon chapel and fell straight through the floor.

>>145570490
Because she's in pain and the red moon descending is a catalyst for all manner of funky shit. Again, compare her to Adeline.

>I hear the sticky sound. Do you hear it, too?
>I can hear it, yes! That sound that guides me.
>Ahhh! Aahh! I see a shape.

>Have you ever felt this? It's progressing. I can see things...
>Don't you see? How they writhe, writhe inside my head...
>It's... rather... rapturous...

So either Willem beckoned Rom without a cord, and the cord you get from Fauxsefka breaks every item description rule of the game for no reason, and Fauxsefka's ramblings mean absolutely nothing and are just ramblings, and a non-Pthumerian can suddenly be impregnated despite all the things suggesting otherwise, or she's not pregnant.

Now remembering what game this is and who made it, which do you believe is more likely?

>>145570760
kk just tell me when you're ready

>>145570391
>a Pthumerian she ain't
Oh so it's just a coincidence that she knows the secret formula for Numbing Mists, gets impregnated by Oedon and can smell the Moon on you eh? I bet you think the placement of the Cainhurst summons is just a coincidence too.

This whole debate is trash. Fauxsekfa is obviously of Cainhurst descent.

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Lewd Girl is always best Girl.

>ywn grant her eyes and impregnate her

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>>145571646
Adella is lewder and therefore best

>>145571258
>So either Willem beckoned Rom without a cord
She bleeds red blood, drops Kin Coldblood, Micolash talks about how she was granted eyes. It's never outright stated in-game but it seems far more likely that she was an ascended human, not a true Great One.

>>145571470
Fuck off Loranon no-one invited you.

>>145571943
Ascended humans can be true great ones.

>>145572008
>fuck off common sense and basic reading comprehension no-one invited you

Yup. Business as usual.

>>145571315
Ready and ringing

>>145571943
We find her in the Chalice Dungeons, Anon. The only other bosses we also find in the Chalice Dungeons are Amygdala and Ebrietas, who were canonically found in the dungeons. When we fight Yharnam she's pregnant with Mergo. Chalice Dungeons are some kind of Nightmare vision of the past and the fact we find Rom there proves she was found in them, not created outside of them.

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send help /bbg/ he's too strong

>>145572179
It's possible that Pthumerians created Rom

>>145572053
>Everyone comments on your smell
>Fauxsefka, being a member of the Choir, knows the reason for it
>Therefore she's from Cainhurst

Fuck off.

>>145572276
I agree completely. This doesn't change the fact Willem would have had to get her from the Chalices into the lake and he damn sure didn't pick her up and carry her out.

An Anon is an Anon even in a Meme.

>>145572427
All sexy white bitches in Bloodborne are related to Cainhurst, Fauxsefka being a nice piece of ass is from Cainhurst.

>>145572427
>Everyone comments on your smell
Only three people comment on the Moon smell. All three are Cainhurst descendants who get or want to get Oedon babies in them. He has a prefence for a specific lineage
>Fauxsefka, being a member of the Choir, knows the reason for it
Closely guarded secret. The only people who know it are Cainhursts. "Said to be used by the blood hunters of Cainhurst, its recipe is a secret closely guarded by the line of nobles inhabiting the castle."

It's fucking obvious. Hell, I'm kinda shocked the community hasn't universally decided that Fauxsekfa with her Cainhurst and Choir connections being so strong, is the Rogue Scholar who started the Vilebloods by bringing Forbidden Blood to the Castle.

>>145572030
That's 100% subject to interpretation, but okay.
Point is Rom didn't need to be "beckoned" like anon was suggesting, she's not a naturally occuring Great One like the Moon Presence, she's a product of Byrgenwerth science.

>>145572179
Chalice dungeons were crammed in the game half-finished at the 11th hour without Miyazaki's supervision. I don't take them as a serious contribution to the story.

>>145572847
>Chalice dungeons were crammed in the game half-finished at the 11th hour without Miyazaki's supervision.
citation needed

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How does this make you feel?

Are you still ringing Rom guy?

>>145572927
I think it was in the walkthrough interview.

>>145572937
You actually triggered me.

>>145572694
>Only three people comment on the Moon smell
Only two people mention the moon you fucking autist. Viola's daughter and random yharnamites comment on your smell with as much insight as Arianna. We've been over this already.
>Closely guarded secret
I was talking about Fauxsefka knowing the reason you smell like the moon you illiterate.

But whilst you bring up Numbing Mist,
>The only people who know it are Cainhursts
Who were fucking massacred when the Executioners ran into their castle and murdered everyone and stole their secrets. Now how might the Executioners, members of the Healing Church, pass this information on to the Choir, also members of the Healing Church? It's a fucking mystery.

>Spoilers, my name is Loranon and I'm a retard
If Fauxsefka took the forbidden blood to Cainhurst she wouldn't be a member of the Choir on account of the Healing Church (of which the Choir is a part) wanting her dead and the fact it was specified to be a Byrgenwerth scholar who took it in the first place. So now she's a high ranking Byrgenwerth scholar who betrayed everyone but joined the Choir anyway despite being the original Vileblood.

Fuck off.

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>that room in 2nd layer of Lower Loran
thank god it's skippable

>>145572847
>I don't take them as a serious contribution to the story.

Then why are there only three (sorry four, I forget the ayy even exists sometimes) bosses from outside of them who appear in them? If it was just non-canon dungeon fun they could have thrown in Papa G and Cleric Beasts and Mergo's Wet Nurse and so on.

>>145573689
Because that's they way it is and they thought those bosses were a better idea than other ones.

Can someone help me to kill Micolash? l literally insta die every time he uses A call of beyond

>>145573892
>They thought it was better to fight a superpowered Rom again than to fight an amped up Papa G or Cleric Beast

No they didn't, Anon. No they didn't.

>>145574138
poison knife cheese

>>145574138
Sure, pass?

>>145574610
bbg, l'll be ringing next to the fog

>>145574705
Got your matchmaking set to worldwide?

>>145574174
I'm not saying they're right. It's just what they did, why they shoved Rom into a tiny arena with pillars is beyond me but it served no lore purpose.

>>145575051
Yes

Do you have the impurity rune equipped?

>>145575121
They shoved Rom into a tiny arena with pillars despite it being a terrible idea in general solely for lore purpose. You saying, "I don't accept these parts of the game to be canon," doesn't make them not canon.

>>145575263
Radiance

>>145575263
radiance rune**

Can someone tell me which attacks on the Beast Cutter are blunt? I want to optimize my Adept gems. Is it just the untransformed form is blunt and the transformed one is normal?

>>145575394
EXECUTIONER

EXECUTIONER

l'll change my rune, brb in a second

>>145573309
>Viola's daughter
Talks about you smelling like a Hunter. No mention of the Moon.
>Random Yharnamites
Again, zero mention of the Moon or that you're even an unusual odor at all.
> We've been over this already.
I know, your arguments are just as shitty as they were before.
>Who were fucking massacred when the Executioners ran into their castle and murdered everyone and stole their secrets.
No. If the formula for Numbing Mist had been pillaged, the description would say so. All descriptions are the objective and omniscient word of god.
They state that only the Nobles of Cainhurst know the formula. Fauxsefka having such a large supply of them is a HUGE sign.
>If Fauxsefka took the forbidden blood to Cainhurst she wouldn't be a member of the Choir on account of the Healing Church (of which the Choir is a part) wanting her dead
She's practicing in secret in a stolen facility. She's hardly a formal choir member, or else she'd be doing her work at the Upper Ward or Research Hall. Iosefka's Clinic is a perfect analogue for the Research Hall because of the poison pit in the basement being a great substitue for the poison on the first floor of the Hall. Obviously it's there for some sort of need for a poison pool in the creation of Celestials.
>So now she's a high ranking Byrgenwerth scholar who betrayed everyone but joined the Choir anyway despite being the original Vileblood.
Nobody ever said the rogue was high ranking or that being a student of Byrgenwerth was something that excluded you from joining the healing Church. Laurence was a fucking Byrgenwerth Scholar too y'know.

>Fuck off.
No you.

Just watch, nobody will respond and all my arguments will be left untouched and unrefuted as usual, but next time these ideas are brought up, people will pretend like they refuted everything

>>145575479
All beast cutter attacks are blunt
Ideally you might want one str scaling gem and the other to be blunts iirc, that's for 50 str though

>>145575981
>No mention of the Moon.
Just like Arianna.
>If the formula for Numbing Mist had been pillaged, the description would say so. All descriptions are the objective and omniscient word of god.
Then you agree that Fauxsefka's cord belonged to Master Willem, and wasn't hers, therefore she wasn't pregnant? Afterall, her cord mentions only Willem, his desire for a cord to elevate his mind, it mentions nothing about impregnation or Fauxsefka, and it's the objective and omniscient word of god.

And if Fauxsefka wasn't pregnant, as is evidenced by the cord not being hers, she was not a Pthumerian. I believe the term here is you've made a rod for your own back.

>She's hardly a formal choir member
She's got an Augur of Ebrietas, that's about as formal member of the Healing Church as it gets.

>Laurence was a fucking Byrgenwerth Scholar too y'know
LAURENCE WASN'T A FUCKING VILEBLOOD YOU CUNT

>>145575334
I'm not covering my ears and going 'la lala la' about it any lore explanation for that fight has always been weak to me and I interpret it as just being a huge pain in my ass.

/bbg/ we need reinforcements against ng+ micolash

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>>145575981
>>145576615
>it's zebra posting time

>>145576183
Even the whip attacks are blunt?

>>145576646
I'm at work and while there's a PS2 in the nurses station It doesn't have PSN.

Just don't let the nerd cast ACB keep on him and the augur telegraphs aren't the hardest to pick up on I get hit too but long as it's always one hit you're okay

>>145576628
You're not covering your ears, you're just staring directly at it and saying it doesn't matter because you decide it doesn't.

It's not quite the same thing, I agree, but it might as well be.

>>145576615
>Just like Arianna.
Is confirmed Cainhurst by many other means. She's just part of the larger moon smell situation. She can smell it on you, she just doesn't know what it means, so she can't put it into words beyond it being queer and unlike the usual hunter smell.
>you agree that Fauxsefka's cord belonged to Master Willem
I don't have any opinion about the larger argument here. I'm just here to remind you that Fauxsekfa is from Cainhurst and probably even is the Rogue Scholar.
>She's got an Augur of Ebrietas, that's about as formal member of the Healing Church as it gets.
Just because you own a badge and uniform doesn't make you an active and formal member. Anyways, it's cute you think Augur is a Choir trademark. Only ACB is. You're lucky she uses that too.

>LAURENCE WASN'T A FUCKING VILEBLOOD YOU CUNT
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>>145573210
Please prove it. I'd like to see that. I remember him saying he wished they'd come out a bit better but that they were planned from the start as a way to make the game endlessly "new"

>>145576646
password? I'll come help out.

I'll assume the pass is 'bbg' and start ringing

>>145577578
lt is, let's fucking do this, with 3 persons it should be okay

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>>145577148
>unlike the usual hunter smell
Literally putting words into her mouth. Fuck off.
>I don't have any opinion about the larger argument here,
Oh very deft, as soon as you're proven wrong by your own logic you drop the argument entirely. Fuck off.
>Anyways, it's cute you think Augur is a Choir trademark
I said Healing Church you illiterate piece of shit. Augur is used only by Church members. Three Choir members (Fauxsefka, Yurie, Edgar), Micolash of Mensis, and the Forgotten Madman, a Healing Church prospector. Fuck off.
>What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Because the idea that someone can betray Byrgenwerth by starting the Vilebloods and then later join an organisation made up of people connected to Byrgenwerth who started a fucking genocide against Vilebloods is completely and absolutely insane and retarded.

You are a fool. Fuck off.

>>145577721
until he casts ACB and OHKOs all three of us

Ringing at the fog.

>>145577578
Are you ringing? we're waiting for you

check if you have network set to worldwide in case you are already ringing, we are just at the fog

>>145577880
you don't happen to have the vileblood rune on, right?

>>145577930
>>145577880

I might be rest-mode-bugged, gonna reset the PS4 real quick

>>145576742
Yes, every attack

>mfw l just fell through the ground into nothingness doing a jump attack

>>145577930
>>145578096
>>145578068

ringing

>>145578262
You've escaped the nightmare!

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This is the view of Yharnam from outdoors in Cainhurst

>>145577930
You're not that ghost I see standing on the bridge are you? Because that bit moves and probably won't let you summon from on top of it.

>>145578495
you were not sarah right?

lt does not work for some reason, we are going to go like this, sorry and thanks for trying

>>145578142
Thanks for the help, mate.

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>>145578615
And this is the view from indoors

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>>145546517

>>145578615
>>145578783
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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>>145578783
spooky

lTS IMPOSSIBLE

FUCK YOU MICOLASH

SEND HELP /BBG/

>>145579137
I tried but someone summon-sniped me ;___;

I'll ring again.

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Rate, pls no hate ;_;

>>145579258
are you angus?

>>145579401
no

>>145579258
Unequip the corruption rune if you have it please

>>145579516
You keep saying that, and it really tempts me to equip it...

>>145579474
do you have matching regions set to worldwide? l don't know what's wrong with summonings today. You can summon more than 1 people for micolash right?

>>145579592
l thought you were another person, lt's the only reason l can think of of why anyone could not be summoned

>>145579647
Not even him (there appears to be some competition for this summoning slot) but I've got all the usual pass+worldwide+reset ps4 and still nothing. I'm on the staircase right next to the boss fog.

>>145579757
That wouldn't stop them from being summoned, afaik there's no cooldown time for adversarial summonings, at least when a password is set.

>>145579757
I think PSN might be fucked right now.

>>145579769
l'm ringing now, does the impurity rune have anything to do with summonings?

>>145580240
l'll restart ps4

>>145580242
AFAIK, none of the runes affect chances of summonings taking place. They only affect whether you'll be hostile or not once it does.

ls anyone else ringing? l summoned angus without a problem. M;aybe its becouse its ng+? angus are you playing in ng+ too?

>>145580652
NG level doesn't matter. Ask that one poor lad that I summoned to NG+5 horse rape.

>>145580652
That doesn't affect it.

I've been ringing this whole time with no results.

The ONLY thing that affects matchmaking is levels, but with a password that's gone too, so the summon is guaranteed.

Where exactly are you standing?

grant us 50 vit, grant us 50 vit..

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>>145580652
When I get bored of waiting I ring the red bell and get an invasion within 30 seconds, so idk what's going on here. Maybe the Cosmos are telling you to git gud and solo Micky.

>>145581261
AHH KOSSS..

Did micolash only start attacking once i jumped down?

>>145581261
l thought there were only 2 people ringing, you can only summon 2 persons right? summonings seem to work just fine now

>>145581603
Well I gave up and let a random summon me... He got killed by Mico's Auger in the FIRST phase....

Do poison gems have any use at all outside of PVP?

>>145582262
Not at all

>>145582262
They don't have any use in pvp either

HE DIED

How did you damage him shooting arrows to the wall? What a bug

Thanks for the help angus and james

>>145582470
Yeah, it's just a graphical bug, you shot at the wall for me, as well.

>>145582470
Happy to help

>>145582392
Indeed, that's why some people prefer gemless fightclubs, because they don't make any difference at all.

>>145582616
l was shooting to the wall haha, l was wondering why l did no damage

>>145582751
Damage gems do

>>145582895
I know. You don't have to quote me, but the guy I've quoted in my last post.

>>145583189
You're a fucking retard

The Pthumerian Descendant in Ihyll honestly gave me more trouble than any of the DLC bosses.

Why does Eileen say she wants all hunters dead when you fight her?

>>145583269
See >>145583269

>>145584784
Because she is blood crazed

>>145584784
no hunters > moon presence can't do shit

>>145584920
It took you five minutes to write 'no u'
poison gems are shit, read the whole reply chain next time

>>145584721
fuck that nigger, summons every time

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THIS IS A FUCKING HEATER

l can't literally play bloodborne for more than 3 hours, lt gets so fucking hot my room's temperature increases like 10 fucking celsius even with the window open

>>145584784
Because she's the wet nurse

Anyone wanna help me with Rom? Ringing at the fog. Password is bbg

>>145586415
Do you still need help?

>>145586851
I went off after I died that last time. Still up for helping me? Not sure why I'm having issues with her.

>>145586974
Sure, l'm turning on the ps4, l'll be there in 3 min

lt's ng or ng+?

>>145587059
Too late man
Rom's dead

ringing at fog now

>>145587059
Sorry, man. Someone already joined. He just deleted her.

How did you do that, anon?

>>145587356
Hamlet Gems

welp, turning the ps4 off again then haha

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>this thread

>>145585447
Maybe you shouldn't play know your closet

Can Ludwig be stunned in phase one?

I've done it in phase 2 with a charged steak dinner R2, but I only ever seem to stagger him in pahse one.

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>>145584721
You already fight him once before that so I already knew his patterns; it was just a matter of him doing more damage, but since you can parry most of his attacks anyways (and they have long wind ups) he rarely even gets a hit off. If you miss a parry then you take a hit and dodge out of his combo then wait for him to stop.

>>145584721
Ditto. For me he is the toughest boss in the game. The wall hacking scythe tosses are just BS.

>>145593335
>long windups
you gotta be fucking kidding me

>>145593620
Every attack is preempted by him pulling a shotel up over his shoulder, except the boomerang toss, but since it's not a cursed dungeon you can just eat the hit for that and dodge to the right to avoid the return hit.

>>145589879
>>>/dsg/

>>145594225
There's no board called dsg

>>>/vg/dsg

>>145575981
>once, a scholar betrayed his fellows at Byrgenwerth
>his

>>145595045
It's common to misgender somebody if you don't know the story first hand. You've raised a reasonable point but I don't think it's enough to really prove the whole thing wrong. If the story went out as "Scholar steals Forbidden Blood" most people would just assume the Scholar is a guy.

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Should apply fire/lightning to my +5 kirkhammer or boost its physical attack? This is my first playthrough

>>145595045
>>145595272

Also note that the Old Hunter's Bone says 'he' in reference to Gehrman's apprentice, despite the original moonrunes being gender-neutral (and the general consensus being that it's maria's boner).

'He' in English is the default when gender is unknown.

>>145595538
Fire and lighting are only for arcane builds.

>>145577857
>Literally putting words into her mouth.
No I'm not: "I'd take it over the stench of blood and beasts any day."
>Oh very deft, as soon as you're proven wrong
I only made one claim.
>I said Healing Church you illiterate piece of shit.
It's not even a healing church trademark. It's just a thing that some people use. Go read the description again.
>Augur is used only by Church members
Mostly only because the game doesn't have any non-chruch members who use Arcane. But nothing about them from the description says that it's a healing church special.
>later join
She doesn't have to join later. She could have been a member beforehand. You can't tell me you know the chronology for a fact. chronology is the biggest issue in BB lore.

>You are a fool.
It's funny because I'm making a fool out of you repeatedly.

fuck living failures
:(

>>145596881
nah

I'll help out if you set a password

>>145596881
Well they aren't super attractive but who am I to judge your tastes?

Anyone wanna bully Mergo's Wet Nurse? I can usually beat her, but I always die 5 or 6 times first and it's just not an enjoyable.

Pass is "bgg", at the fog gate.

>>145596956
thanks for the offer but i need to take a break

>>145597058
>"bgg"

Are you the guy who was trying to summon for micolash earlier? Because this would explain why I couldn't find you.

>>145597378
lel, yeah, that was me. Sorry.

>>145597378
Password is "bbg", still, minus quotations

I just finished the first chalice dungeon. Should I make a Pthumeru Root or Central Pthumeru?

>>145597654
Central if you want to progress, root if you want some fun with randomized layouts.

>>145597378
>>145597472
???
Why would you want to impersonate an anonymous person? l'm the one that was trying to summon him for micolash before

>>145597596
turning the ps4 on, l'll be there in 2 min

>>145597756
Well fuck, so was I. It's not inconceivable we both were.

Regardless, need to take a leave... maybe I'll fight Wet Nurse later.

>>145597880
>>145597596

Are you this person? Why when l turn on the ps4 to help someone l end up coming too late wtf

>>145597880
Arg, maybe in a bit, sorry man.

>>145598006
quoted myself by accident, ls >>145597596
this person: >>145597912 ?

>>145597756
Now why are YOU trying to impersonate an anonymous person? I was the one that was trying to summon me for micolash before.

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>>145598243

Anyone up to bully ludwig?

lt's ng+
He will bully us

With a skill build do I want a lost, uncanny, or normal beasthunter saif?

>>145598473

Sure, pass?

>>145598545
Uncanny

>>145598664
bbg

>>145598791

Ok. Ringing before his fog gate.

>>145598903
where the corpses are?

>>145599118

Yea

>>145599158
l wonder what's wrong with summonings today.. l will change the password to 123, that may help

>>145599295

Oki doki.

>>145599295
I'll try as well (a second anon here).

PSN seemed to be acting strange earlier so it might be their issue.

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>>145598153
Correct

l just got a message saying l lost connection to the network did it happen to you too guys?

rip psn
this is why l pay for 40$ a year

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>>145599701
It happened to me yesterday.

>>145599701

Well I'll go play something else then since PSN is fucking up again, sorry man.

>>145599856
np, thanks for trying anyways

l've just restarted the ps4 and l'm ringing again if someone else wants to come

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>finally beat Ludwig at level 46

THANK YOU BASED VALTR
THANK YOU FOR MY GUIDING MOONLIGHT

And now I just need to spend six years in chalice dungeons to get the gems I need

gg Alucard, most intricate PvP tactics I've ever seen in this series.

>>145599701
>>145599796
>>145599856
No, that's just Bloodborne. It does that.

If you're invading and it happens, you don't have to even press okay and get sent back to the menu, you can just load into their world, press okay, and nothing will happen.

>>145599947

That went well, lol

Man do l love Ludwig's theme, shame we killed him so fast ha

Thanks for the help

>>145600864
All the coolest boss themes in the series are for the shortest fights. :(

Even Pinwheel's theme is fucking sweet but who's ever heard that?

I'd appreciate some help with Maria, if anyone wants to come tag team her i'll be ringing at the fog wall.

Pass is "bbg".

>>145601198
on it

>>145601198

On me way

Oh shit you're the dude that helped me with Ludwig yesterday.

Anyone still wanna help with Mergo's Wet Nurse? I'll be at the gate, password is bbg

>>145601894

Yeah, heading there. Just got done bullying Maria.

>>145601894
omw

>The one day I sleep in late is the day everyone is asking for help

God dammit.

>>145601894
Be with you in a minute, gotta boot up my PS4.

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>>145578783
Rom did it

>>145601894
gate = fog gate?

ringing now

>>145601894
There are like 5 people gunning for these co-op slots so make a post before you start the fight so the rest of us know to fuck off.

>>145602303

Too late, nightmare slain

Just beat her, sorry guys. Thanks for the offers, though~

To continue the trend of co-op requests, anybody up for Research Hall? Pass is gonna be scorch. Ringing at research hall lamp.

Different anon to Ludwig so this will just be ng