/poeg/ - Path of Exile General

>>144674924
>>144675363

What the fuck happened? Did new patch bomb???

>>144675649
yes

now go buy tabs and gamble boxes

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What went wrong?

>game's economy completely relies on a third party trade indexer site run by some random player being up and working

lol

>>144675874
arpg is a dying genre. see rts

>>144676157
it doesn't need to be a dying genre. ARPGs could potentially become the new MOBAs if only GGG could get their shit together and allow PoE to reach its full potential

>>144676109
>We won't put in an in-game trade device because people should interact and it should be gritty and an auctionhouse would break the atmosphere
>But here's some trade stash tabs

>People don't interact while trading, every trade takes a few seconds going to their hideout and then picking up the item

Great design. Really paid off.

>>144676531
I've said this for ages. Trading IS already nothing more than

>"copypasted wtb message"
>get invite
>go to seller's h/o
>trade
>"ty ss"
>"t4t ss"

Is this really an atmosphere or a "bartering" economy worth keeping? Just stop pretending you have something special going on here where people meet on a marketplace to exchange their goods while haggling. No, this is not the reality anymore.

Put a trading post in the game itself in town and be done with it.

>>144676531
The only reason why an auction house was never added is because of muh anti-d3.

speaking of trading, poe.trade is down, anyone got southbounds in softcore prophecy?

ign: hear_nothing

>>144676304
to do that they would need to make a new engine or buy one that isn't dogshit

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MY HO

>mfw he says your ho

>>144676304
>ARPGs could potentially become the new MOBA
the last time they tried that was the PvP update and see how that turned out.

>you will slay a powerful foe that will drop two uniques instead of just one

alright, not too bad

>getting prophecies that are supposed to take place in A1, A2, A3
What am I supposed to do with these? They're either a waste of time or a waste of prophecy space, am I to seal and trash them to not lose time with useless backtracking?

Better for a windripper build: Inquisitor or jugg?

>>144676786
Poe trade is literally an auction house

>>144678151
Would be easier to search and trade in-game.

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>>144546008
>FREE
>>144551263
>FREE
>>144551394
>free
>>144551736
>free
>>144558129
>free
>>144567370
>FREE
>>144569278
>free
>>144576743
>free
>>144581532
>free
>>144609972
>free
>>144629261
>FREE
>>144639749
>FREE
>>144641357
>Free
>>144662093
>free
>>144670291
>FREE
>>144672429
>free
>>144675153
>free

anything worth doing with duplicate gems?

>>144678321
BASED
THANK YOU FREEPOSTER

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>be cockroach
>dialla calls you not-a-cockroach

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>>144678321
>no (you)

>>144678580
That's because you gotta talk about how Path of Exile is literally FREE

now go buy some more stash tabs

>>144676109
And yet, nobody will complain.

>>144678550
>being a turk
amk 1453 siktir git xD

>>144678661
idk what point you're trying to make. You're being too vague.

>>144678686
wow rude

Just got a Ventor's Gamble. Should I ID it?

>>144677104
Reminder that we could have a good race viewing api if they hadn't wasted their time on that shit.

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>tfw fightin izaro first time, get him to about half hp when this cunt gets on youtube to play music , i spike to 1k ping and die
>this fuck refuses to learn how to download mp3s, always goes over data cap on her phone due to using youtube as a music player
>loses her shit when netflix wont load because shes got like 3 different devices on the wifi browsing facebook youtube and cuntflix
convince me not to kill her
how can someone 4 years older than me be such a technological retard

>>144678265
>>144678151
They need to have a trade system akin to Eve where everything is on a global market and people can outprice/outbid each other. That would help stabilize prices a lot and make trading a lot easier

>>144679307
>how can someone 4 years older than me be such a technological retard
because age doesn't magically impart knowledge, anon

is earthquake the fastest way to level melee now? are the smashy totems viable to level with?

Someone give me the run down on binos poison proliferation. Does it need AOE scaling to be good?
Has it been nerfed?

>>144679307
Configure QoS on your router, and make packets used in gaming higher priority.

>>144679307
Lmao just rape her.

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:^)

>it's a big patch guys I promise
>it's a bunch of content that doesn't really add anything interactive to the game, just random drops for random "quests" that are almost always completed by playing normally

>trading system is still 3rd party, making most people leave the game because they'd rather not alt-tab constantly and rely on shady looking websites

>respeccing is still a complete pain in the ass that relies on using the aforementioned 3rd party trading system

>"Leagues" effectively kill the core game

>new players leave when they beat the last boss just to be told "do it again, but these time we arbitrarily increased health and damage and also you have less resistances!!! heheheeh"

>all of this will not change because "we r hardcore xdd"

>>144680308
wow, you're salty as fuck today

>less than a week into the league
>can't readily fill master rotations on 820 at reset

nice game poetards

>>144680492
of course I'm salty, I love this game
But GGG refuses to improve it because they think archaic is the same as hardcore

>>144680607
>archaic

i want riot to leave

Etup doing uber lab, let's see him getting one shot.

aw yeah just got the "you'll kill a powerful evangelist and get a tabula rasa" prophecy

>>144680982
He just finished m8
He won the whole league in the time it took you to post that.

>poe trade still down

nice fucking game poeniggers

>Need 5 Gems from Act 3/4 Vendors that dont sell on my Assasin
>Have too much autism to trade for em
>Have to make 3 characters and do acts 1-3 on each

Fucking kill me

>>144680846
>riot
I quit LoL years ago because they refuse to do anything about the prevalence of Flash, refuse to add more options to custom games, and completely ignore my brother from another mother - Urgot

>>144678067
Inquisitor

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>poe.trade down
>entire player base can't trade
poetards?

Ok guys what do you think of my Fire conversion ice trap brun prolif build?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAN-K6QJLrhsl2VttGRFQNbmnK5f0UlM9X5eVTLMEB-vkXyoi9GwLkyfviPk3189Jsb6KoS_K07QM6roNfFfJKPqCx_nof8aio1F0jummmR8CNsXYJKcIj0YdFK-NEmkXHHF5na4DdZErWHdfBHRVrJjxbDbYSRsqjexV99eESFxrw23QH-_rwcXsGCy_FdeGrlZjZKqbhmo2j_rQ0EcG2-dwUXZvfrDYVLMDMhhTMWwI8Yrw1UlRRnGDCW-eykrWvtUu6NVTNVBCjDZUR6a-nsRd8isKES8OSO4Vt3Vresi_RlL8TJD6320=

I want to bait a friend into playing this

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Before 2.3:
>Launch application
>wait for ~10 minutes
>log in and play the game

After 2.3:
>Launch application
>login screen pops up instantly
>click "log in"
>client freezes for ~1-2 min, then crashes
>Relaunch, login screen is still instant
>"log in"
>freezes again for ~3 min, but then pops over to the character select screen
>double click on my character
>client crashes instantly
>Relaunch, log in, wait another 3 min
>double click on my character
>loading screen for sarn shows
>wait about 30 sec
>load into sarn, but the client is frozen
>UI is only half loaded, mana globe is floating in space, no potions in potion slots
>click once after waiting for a few seconds
>The program has stopped responding
>"wait for program to respond"
>5 min later
>"close program"
>relaunch
>get to Sarn after ~10 mins
>client still frozen
>bumped back to login screen with "an unexpected disconnection has occurred."
>log in, select character
>game loads instantly into sarn and without any further problems
INSTANT LOGIN SCREEN SOGOOD

>>144685145
game is literally running better in every way here except for towns

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>its STILL down

>>144683562
ok, how's this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUBAAKW0nySbrxWTwSb7Irkr2xo8gth8B8878auogAYXcT2PC0Es3Kpg1-DzMBm9zK3PjwFkn3-Cp_f73zcI_JF2L2aO5hvOuE1koKb5c-mV_6PtfLsOE3jeA062MAaMoknL6lubzt35ZBVd-MaOAHchNnEuEd-1fi9NmVNvqd1y7e26mKNfkMxwzPawUz_WhouU3TtTirTbwUtW68j0yF2DY2PYIbO_MWHdsEz7g7jn6OKSn0j9k2SjX0wfH8rUUc51DfUPs_nVHb37T-95iT9Mfr_3qCfjb_UIzBx3ahLeDpCqLkMUg==

>>144685145
>waah i can't play this shit game on a potato

>>144685531
It's well documented PoE performs poorly on high end PCs

>>144685531
Chris, there's no need to defend your fuckups here.

>>144685837
Jay Wilson plz go

o look I can do that too

What are the slayer passives all the cool people are using for HC earthquake?

>>144686613
>cool people
>hc

does not compute

ziz is gonna do it. he's gonna win the league
now apologize

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>>144684470
silly anon, you can use the bulletin boards in-game and the GGG forums to trade!

>>144685145
For me the game is playing better in literally every single way - EXCEPT for in towns or teleporting to towns, where it's extremely laggy and prone to massive frame drops

>That prophecy that gives you a Sacrifice at Dusk/Sacrifice at Dawn in one Vaal Area

NICE

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>hey i want to buy (insert your shitty item here) for x currency
>"k my hoe plz"
>took long to load
>hoe is full with shitty out-of-place objects
>mfw people building dungeons on their hoe
>mfw people playing THE SIMS on poe

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>>144687376
>that one faggot who surrounds their hideout wp with a fuckton of exiles facing you

>>144685223
oy vey s̶h̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n turn it on again >:^o

>>144687735
moot?

>>144687653
kek i actually know that one specific faggot
buying from him once then mute and block him because just no

>>144687653
i do that tho

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>>144688230
fag

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ITS UP

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how goes the grind /poeg/

>>144687653
I did that with the masters. I also put a bonfire in the middle so it looked extra comfy.

Am I just incredibly unlucky, or do I need to go to a certain map for Feral Lord V? I've been to multiple maps with rhoas, and I've yet to have it trigger. Hooray for layers of RNG

Why did they introduce a patch that ruined performance?

>>144691405
Whats the riddle shit on it?

>>144691768
performance is fine if you use the old network mode

>>144691768
this meme is starting to piss me off

where the fuck do i find nemesis of greed. Ive had this stupid prophecy for all of cruel and am now at the end of the act and still havent gotten my free uniqes

>>144691910
PoE patches have always been a shitty meme.

>>144691909
>old network mode
whatsthis?

>>144692023
read the description it usually tells you what kind of enemy you have to find then go to the wiki to check out where they are

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Uhmmm... It says here you're not pushing ladder right now, care to explain???

>>144691885
>You will discover and slay a very powerful Rhoa in a map where Rhoas may be found.
>To the realm of dreams the Feral Lord flees, and leaves in his wake a burning nightmare.

>>144693494
mud geyser

>>144693494
Feral Lord V is currently broken.

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>>144693494
>realm of dreams
>burning nightmare
Thats kaom's dream ya idiot.

>>144693347
it says " a collector of antiquities doubles their treasures, blah blah bvlah"

nothing about mob type

>>144692023
use this
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Prophecy

>>144692023
It's completely random.

>>144694197
>>144694147
Fuck my life, you need to find a mob with Inner treasure

THANKS GGG, GREAT PROPHECY

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I'm new, just asking a general question:

What's the most fun type of build? Melee build, archer build, or magic-type build?

>>144694097
its probably in academy

>>144694274
Depends on what you prefer honestly, and how viable you want the build to be.

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>jeweler's touch

holy shit i have nothing to use this on

>>144694474
give it to me, anime

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>>144694274
Ranged > Melee
Elemental > phys
Armor > ES > Evasion

>earthquake exists
remove ice crash

>>144695891
remove both and give touch of god

>>144696149
its called flameblast bro :&)

>>144696404
nigga FUCK YTOU

>>144695321
> Armor > ES > Evasion

not only they arent mutually exclusive, but eva builds have more effective mitigation at high level

>>144693403
I pushed top 10 in Perandus but this league is just too much of the same shit to be worth pushing ladder on. I've pretty much only played 4 hours a day or so.

>>144694274
Melee is more fun

>Upgraded uniques require you to do risky shit like to beat a merc boss while using it
>and yet they all suck
whats the point

Does Clarissa not sell less duration for duelist after fixture of fate?

>>144697862

>risky shit
>merc boss

wat

>>144698087

dunno what you mean by "less duration"

but if you mean "Less Duration SUPPORT" (ITS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SPECIFY ITS A SUPPORT GEM OR PEOPLE CAN GET CONFUSED; she sells it after the golden pages quest

>>144698304
kek

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>fall for the EA meme
>damage is mediocre at best
>meanwhile bf trapfags do 100x better with self-found trash gear
Don't fall for the EA meme, guys. Trust me. Don't. Not sure whether to stick with it and eventually shoot myself or transition into Cyclone (Duelist)

>>144699479

ive played EA like 3 times and its always been excellent

you should consider the possibility of being shit at building

>>144699587
>ea
>excellent
hello 2012 anon

what the fuck is ea

>>144699818
Electronic Arts.

rate my attempt at a crit/max block lacerate build, using BoR/anvil/aegis with the new unique sword:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQCAABeAO4CEQMnBIcFLQYgBosGogguCTMKJgz3DY0UdRSOFSAV7Bc-F9wZjhm0G60g4yLiI9Mj9iT9Kk0s6S2DLlMvzDB8MbAyTjWSN9Q64T3iPydAoETSR35H4kjuSn1KyE1GTZJN404qUUdW6Fh1W69f2mLsZU1uqnSgdO1313iueu97FHvDfXWE2YTvhrOHdoqvivCNfY9gj5mQEZL3lLifgqOKo-ekOaZXqZWsr7GztfK5Hb02vqfAdsC_wYLKkMv10TbTb9N-1FLYvdrB3L3dDeCV4izjn-cP51TpRu0_7YPuDvJF-AL8xf4K_o_-uv_e

>>144699927
>crit
>block
0/10
Not even kidding before you start talking more shit. Those two should never be together otherwise enjoy your gimped meme build.

>>144699782
its actually better now than in 2012

>loads more of fire/burn wankery on gear/tree
>more "MORE" modifiers on gems
>ez as fuck to get extra proj
>reflect is largely fine to handle

only thing that suffers a bit is aoe size right now

>>144700103
>>144700103
Okay I'll bite. What ascendancy/class are you theorising all of this with? Bonus points if you actually provide a tree. If it's <200% life then just stop.

Oh and at what level does EA become "excellent" to you? Do note the average [FotM] builds that out-perform it.

>>144700103
>reflect is largely fine to handle
Does the secondary explosion not reflect?

>>144700103
>reflect is largely fine to handle
Not ele' reflect maps.

>>144700384
It does and that's what will always kill you. I've got a feeling most people here are clueless with EA. Like,
>EA
>Reflect not a problem
and
>EA
>Excellent
Are good tells.

>>144700296
it can be played with any ascendancy
needs at least 1 curse, EE and fire damage and burning damage


>>144700384
it does but right now reflect is gimped compared to 1+ year ago. basically

>>144700464
if you absolutely fear a reflect death, go RT

>>144700464
I've never even looked at the skill so I wasn't 100% on the mechanics, but I found it weird that reflect wouldn't be an issue. Thanks for confirming that.

>EA
>one of the easiest skills to build around, specially for HC
>people cant figure it out

its truly the dawn of poeg

>using blade vortex with less duration
>spell becomes normal attack

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>get merveil+daresso prophecy
>think its going to be overtuned as fuck ass clenching bullethell of dodging permafreeze
>neither of them do any damage
>don't even get chilled
It sucks that perandus box mobs made me shit myself harder than a double boss.

reddit normies are waking up to GGG's bullshit finally? is it happening?

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>try a different spin on a good starter build
>its more boring than i thought plus its suboptimal as fuck

what a waste of time

>>144683405
There's seriously no fucking reason to restrict gems from and to different classes now, not when ascendancies now pigeonhole them harder than ever before into specific builds.

>>144702654

the problem is that if GGG changes it so that all gems are universally available, some Ruler of Wreaclast with other 5+ supporter forum banners will throw shitstorm about how GGG just ruined his life because selling 1alch gems to desperate people in town gave his life meaning and was his sole source of currency

>these streamers can power level a character to merciless maps within ~6 hours
>something that takes me 24
does anyone have a rough outline on the standard "new character" route for people that aren't shitters?

>>144704181
>something that takes me 24
Don't kill every monster. Kill most of a pack then move on so you're not wasting time with stragglers and single enemies. Also, have your build planned before the league starts.

>>144704181
yeah i don't get it, i'm clearing ultra fast and after three hours i'm still in act4

>>144704619
Yeah, I am trying not to pick up currency and stop for shit packs but it's a hard habit to break.
From what I have seen these guys skip entire zones and have goals before proceeding past X point as well.
>>144704705
Did they nerf global EXP? I know they nerfed map EXP but this league is taking FOREVER even in the mid 60's.

>>144704181
move fast
dont stop for singles, only kill packs. dont bother with straggler yellows
FUCKING RUN
learn the cues
dont pick shit up once you have your resist done for the act


>>144704747
>From what I have seen these guys skip entire zones

anything that doesnt give gems you need, skill points or reset points you can just skip

you only need to run act lab challenges once so you can skip them on alts/rerolls

>3 charge limit on flame dash
>unlimited FREE use on shield charge

???

Streamers have special GGG-tuned drop rates tho

Even the ones who don't receive "gifted" gear while levelign have an accelerated gearing up progression by either finding good uniques or high end currency extremely often

>>144705647
>shield charge
>needs a shield
>doesnt teleport you across unwalkable spaces

>>144705647
retard

>>144705647
The issue here is that flame dash is mechanically a teleport.

>>14470571
lol, I can promise you they don't

>>144706316
oop
>>144705713

>>144706470
>>144706316
Why bother replying to shit like that?

Has anyone tried etup's warchief totem build?

its the only new thing in this meta honestly, otherwise its the exact same shit as last patch without spark (and i guess with flameblast not being played as chaos conversion)

>>144706316
>>144706659

damage control

poeg is basically a streamer discussion general these days

>>144706659
I know it's mainly trolling, but occasionally you do get people who believe crazy shit like that is going on.

>>144706778
streamers are boring as shit, idgaf about them. They don't get increased drop rates or any changes that differ their play from the rest of people.

This game would be better without the meta act 1-4 bullshit.
Just create an infinite use ghetto Zana that gives unlimited daily style missions that rolls a random low mod map from level 1-66 and give quest rewards at every few levels.

I fucking hate act 4.

>>144707196
Not only that but one of the difficulties need to be removed right now

>>144706995
>They don't get increased drop rates or any changes that differ their play from the rest of people.

since ive never seen a non streamer drop 2 exalts from a single barrel or get a disfavor in 1 try and then 6l it with a handful of jews and fuses , ill keep believing otherwise

>>144707196
fuck off

>>144707196
it kinda sounds like you are asking for an Adventure Mode, in which case the GGG shills will tell you that everything is fine as it is and nothing needs to change

>>144707354
>since ive never seen a non streamer
nice

I've had friends who have gotten mirror drops from chests, non-streamers. How do you think the staff who play PoE (all non-streamers) would feel if they were aware of some sort of streamer advantage?

Is there a tier list for ascendencies?

>>144707774

>Your mom > everything but ascendant > shit > ascendant

>>144707746

given how hard GGG promotes streamers and how important streamers are for poe's younger target demo, it wouldn't surprise if they want to show a more dynamic, faster take of the game the rest of us play

>>144708241
this guy is actually right you know
i feel the same way when watching 2 exalted drop from a single white strongbox

>everything he has 6 linked
>no shit fuck luck

What are good skills to base around berserker ascnedancy?

>>144708241
Well, you'd be expecting at least 80 people to keep something like this a secret that they're ripping off their players, along with the risk they'd be taking if the NZ commerce commission ever found out, as it would be breaking law. But if you'd included that in your theory then excuse me for thinking you haven't properly thought it through, and that yer a few sandwiches short of a picnic

>>144708665
earthquake

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>>144709072
>tfw you instigate a /pol/ invasion on global
The fire RISES

>>144709637
try asking "What do you call a black pilot?"
and see all the people reply nigger, then report them all, and say "no, how rude, you call him "Pilot"".

If you think drop rates aren't modified for whales and people that bought supporter packs you're delusional

whats better for COH
Herald of Ice or Herald of Thunder

>>144709839
No, it's something I'm in a position to look into, have, and it's not the case. No need to go full stupid.

>>144710063
>>144706316
>>144706470
go to bed chris

>>144710136
Jay Wilson replacement plz leave

>>144708946
i dont know NZ law

but in say, Canada, it would be completely legal as promotional material isnt legally binding represntation of the actual product

say if you buy a skin cream with a model on its box, you are NOT guaranteed to end up looking like the model

>get lucky
>volls div drops first kill
>list for 2 ex
>flooded by a billion whispers

did I underlist or are people sliding the market and trying to scalp them?
shitcore

>>144710418
In NZ we have the Fair Trading Act, that leans heavily on the consumer's side for preventing companies misleading consumers, giving them false information, or using unfair trading practices. Streamers falling under their promotional material, it would be illegal if it were misleading viewers on rates they would also have.

>>144701114
That post shows you sure know it all right.

GG GGG

>cloak of tawmr isley is only available from level 8 masters
lmao @ everyone who planned a build with it

>>144710786

you must be completely missing something, cause the dev manifesto has been misleading us and giving us false information since 2012 and ive yet to see chris wilson jailed

>>144711529
lol'd

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>>144710063
Not him but I bought that currency tab and a day later I found 2 exalts, 32 chaos, 8 regals, 5 blessed, and an abundance more in other currencies than I usually do.. Also 8 uniques on the same lvl 54 character
I've played a thousand hours of this shit all the way up to 100 on every type of character and never found any exalts and never get more than maybe 2 chaos a day.

>Drops aren't modified for people who purchase shit
Bullshit, plain and simple.

>>144711928
>Buy 20 bucks worth of shit
>Don't see an exalt drop for 24 hours of play time
Sure thing.

>>144711928
>muh anecdotal evidence
based retard

>>144711928
>have spent ~100$ since CB
>have some of the worst drop RNG I and everybody I've played with has witnessed
Nah. My fuse RNG is pretty good though. But outside of that, my drops are absolute dogshit.

>>144711928
Chris has already said himself that they're not (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/586139/page/7#p5194134), and community members who have purchased thousands of dollars worth of shit have said their drops are still ass.

Is it just me or is EA is only non-shit if you're going burn/prolif with EE? Seems like regular AoE + damage while ignoring burn/prolif is terrible.

>>144711928
I have spent something like $5k, played maybe 3k hours and found 0 mirrors and maybe 15 exalt.

Spending money resulting in better drops doesn't result in people spending more money unless people in general believe it results in better drops.

Upping drops for streamers but not "regular players" doesn't result in more profit for GGG, it results in disappointment and bitterness among the general playersbase.

Now GGG can be pretty retarded, but I really don't see why they're do either on the down low like you're suggesting. All downsides for them.

What's actually happening is that RNG is confusing to literal retards.

>>144711136
Waste of $1k/$1.5k..

>>144712540

EA needs EE and needs burn and a curse

any other way to build it is retarded

you could known this already if you bothered to google the build

>>144712696

i guess streamers are just extraordinarily lucky

because the alternative is that the GGG shill lied to us and that just isnt possible

>>144712331
>chris himself
Lol
>believing chris lies
Based retard

>>144712696
it's not ggg who made that restriction, it was the supporter's idea

>>144710632
If only there was a site you can pricecheck...
Fucking retard

>>144713467
>sliding
>scalping

key words.

>>144713137
or they clear fast with +2/3 pack size maps

>>144713137
>i guess streamers are just extraordinarily lucky
No they play a lot, get freebies from their fans and rmt off-stream.
>>144713365
Yeah I know. I feel like he wasted his money asking for this though.

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This is good for..??

>>144713137
>because the alternative is that the GGG shill lied to us and that just isnt possible
lol'd :D
I wouldn't lie to you guys, but there isn't a hell of a lot I'd tell you either.

>>144713576
oh yes the streamer secret method of pack size that no one else uses

i guess it all makes sense now

>>144713654
maybe the ONE skill scales off life and can be totem'd?

>>144713859
nigga the fuck is that
i dont play this game

>>144713654
rf totems

>>144713650
that's like saying skyforths are a waste of money because they can only drop as ilvl 84 or above

>>144713976
>>144713859
groovy, i wanted to do a totem build next anyway

>RF
No.
>RF totems
Double no.

>>144714052
enjoy dying of boredom

>>144714052
its pretty much meant for chieftain class

>>144714251
chieftain ascension fixes most of what was wrong with it. its still not the most interesting thing to play

>>144713976
I don't think so.

Skyforths are very powerfull, have general appeal and don't really compete with any other powerfull chase uniques.

Cloak of Tawm'r Isley is a summoner chest, so much more niche, which competes with several other, arguably much stronger, unique chest pieces that are ALL much easier to get. It's not worth half the effort.

Some people will try it out in spite of the hoops they have to jump through just because it's new, but come next league it's not gonna be some expensive chase unique like skyforths, it's just gonna get ignored.

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>>144678321
Every day I wake up and come to /poeg/ hoping that you have graced us with your presence.

I thank you for the gift you give us for FREE, as if you would have it any other way.

I hope karma comes back to you tenfold and rapes your tight little boipussy so hard.

Thanks and godspeed, based FREEposter.

>>144713743
you forgot to clear fast
using big sounds and nameplates for your currency also helps you not miss drops when you clear fast

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How do I get more damage out of an ED build?
Close to 20k DoT damage, but heading into t10 maps and it feels lackluster.

I can't really see any other way to do it besides having an Empower as my 6th link.

>>144714951

Oh right. Until you mentioned i assumed 1 map should take 1 hour to clear so i just used autoattacks on monsters. I guess killing fast helps, gonna try that.

>>144715063
>How do I get more damage out of an ED build?
What did you do so far?

>>144715063
curses

>>144715186
you seem pretty frustrated
1 hour is a long long time, try to shave it down to 2-3 minutes and you'll see the returns you're looking for

>>144712121
shut up chris

>>144715202
I went Trickster so have 8 frenzy charges. Just running the usual 5 link. I have a decent amount of damage on the tree.

>>144715320
I was going to go tri-curse Occultist but didn't think vuln would be that good. Just running temp and enfeeble.

>>144716207
>Trickster
So you have Patient Reaper? Use RF and/or PA. Wither totems against bosses.

>>144716207
youll miss out on some damage without curses, specially with occultists that has further multipliers per curse applied

How do I single target for EA in group play?

When I solo I setup Frost Wall, but that just fucks up things for everyone. I can't really do an alternate weapon swap because that's my Leap Slam set up for Trials.

>>144716850
use EA at the monster
wait for it to explode
repeat

>>144717248
Damage with GMP setup's kinda bad without a Wall on the back for overlap, and swapping gems is kinda annoying to do whenever you see a rare/unique.

Any fun cast on death builds? Google is turning up outdated trash

>>144712246

~100$

Fug, I have the warrior/journeyman/axiom/challenger supporter packs and going to buy the prophecy pack as well when payday comes around. Don't even feel too bad at it when all this spending is spread trough 5 years.

And i never had any really good drops till i started to go fast. The key in getting good shit is to move really fucking fast. 5 min per map or faster.

>>144717481

>gmp

dont use it ever. get extra arrows from other sources

>>144712331

Based downie, chris also said that rain does not affect framerate, that maphacks are impossible, and that people are not cheating in races.

>>144717687
Fug. Okay.

Do exalted orbs tend to trade for more chaos in early or later leagues?

>>144718089
later though I've seen it go down again

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>>144676304
>RPGs could potentially become the new MOBAs if only GGG could get their shit together and allow PoE to reach its full potential
Solid gold, anon.

>>144716431
Not built for RF. I'd have to reroll. What is PA?
Obviously using Wither against bosses.

>>144716650
I guess I need a Heretic's Veil then.

>>144718364
>PA
Pain Attunement

AHAHAHAH IM LAUGHING IM IN TEARS
WHAT HAS THIS RETARD WILSON DONE TO HIS FUCKING GAME?

Everyone told him "Normal diffculty is slow and boring" so what he did was gut mana leech so that now the early game is 10 times slower and more boring, what A FUCKING IDIOT.

mana leech has been divided by like 20, it stacks but reach the rate cap after like 3 stacks, and then mana pots were fucking nerfed to restore less mana per use, and then clarity was fucking nerfed too why not. So basically, even with leech and clarity you can't sustain attacks even while poting while before leech was enough. And they didn't even remove that fucking oom line so your retarded char is permanently stuck in a time loop saying 'I'm out of mana' 'I'm out of mana".

AHHHH WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS SO BAD SO SUCKY SO BORING SO AWKWARD SO MEDIOCRE GULP GULP GULP GULP IM OUT OF MANA GULP GULP OUT OF MANA IM NEVER GIVING YOU ANOTHER CENT YOU IDIOT YOU DESTROYED YOUR OWN GAME IM GONNA SIT BACK AND WATCH YOUR FACE WHEN YOU REALIZE EVERYONE IS PLAYING TOTEM THEN LEAVING THE GAME OUT OF MINDNUMBING BORINESS GULP GULP OUT OF MANA

>spell crit is so high the assassin node can't keep up power charges

Ascendancy classes are perfectly balanced, because they cause problems like this :^)

How have your builds been working out so far /poeg/?

>Chaos wander assassin

Good:

>Clearspeed is great because KB is OP
>Map bosses get melted because of frost wall pierce KB, poison and wither totem
>Can do any map mod

Bad:

>Survivability is meh, 4.5k HP with no endurance charges or cwdt IC (might switch it in place of wither totem?)
>Lone rares in open areas make KB a pain to use at times
>Not an easy time generating power charges, assassin's mark blasphemy requires getting in close

>>144720227
EA. I did the "not use burn and prolif" meme. It sucks. Not sure if prolif EA is even worth it when there's stuff like Lameblast.

>>144720227
Berserker Axe Cyclone
Good:
Shit ton of health
Almost zero flasks use since I leech for about 5%

Bad:
Slow clear speed
Kinda boring
Volatiles will fuck my shit up in maps

>>144720227

WI CI Mementalist

Running blasphemy temp chains+frostbite. 8k ES so far (will get higher later). No real downsides, comfy as fuck. Can do all mods.

>>144720289
you didnt do any meme build nigro or it would have actually worked. you simply misunderstood how to build EA because you didn't research it first.

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>Decide to try out melee totems
>mfw it isn't just a meme

>>144720601
>Can do all mods
Blood magic?

>>144719592
solid pasta mate

>>144720703
no. unless i want to try letting my golems clear the map so its technically possible i guess

>>144714714

Cloak of Tawm'r Isley is not any summoner chest. Its literally THE animate weapon chest. Its probably BIS unless you are going for lowlife and want the safety of shavs.

>>144704181

Keep in mind that these streamers either:

Power Level in the beginning of the league in groups, where 5/6 just sit there and farm and then they have designated "runners" to just do everything that they rotate out. , and for *several* sections of the game it cuts down the time by literally half (like Act 2, a lot of Act 3, and the 2nd half of Act 4), not to mention it allows them to do this *while* farming extremely efficiently as well as the runners being able to literally ignore everything (since they can catch up once the next runner is rotated in). It makes a *huge* difference and it is something that is literally impossible for a solo character to even hope to keep up with.

If you are leveling a second character then yea, you probably should be doing better. Literally all you need is a few leveling weapons, a Tabula, and some decent Life+Res gear for Merciless.

>>144715063

Dual curse is a must. With 20k dot dmg and dual curse shit was melting up to T15. Later on with a 6 link i think i had 5 more modifiers on it, and i used winds of change gloves for a little more dmg, but i also used binos+consuming dark. It makes you a bit squishy, but it does give you even more dmg and aoe. Also heals you occasionally.

I guess the other alternative is to go lowlife RF.

>>144718089

Its like a shitty bell curve.

First they are relatively cheap, then people start farming chaos and rich people hoarding exalts so their price starts increasing, and later on again the rich fucks start dumping currency and they get cheaper.

>>144713137

Streamers are lucky because:

They keep running maps
They don't just sit there and dick around like you do
They play a lot

>>144719605

Tfw i play assassin and the assassin node keeps me at max charges at all times.

thousands of hits per second thanks to based kinetic blast

>>144720991
It's worse than shav's and victario's.

>>144721149
Yeah, I think I'll drop Enfeeble for Vulnerability. Should be safe enough with just Temp chains.

>>144720227

Wait what? How do you have problems generating charges with assassin KB? Im at 90% crit with 6 power charges, and 90% hitchance. And i keep up all of the charges pretty much constantly with just the assassin node.

Also once i get going even lone rares arent an issue. I have faster cast + echo + frost wall, and i just instantly melt them in a second.

Also vertical>horizontal walls.

>>144721390
That works? huh.

When I get uber lab done i'll switch from ambush to deadly infusion, might be enough to drop assassin's mark for power charge generation.

>>144721629

I only drop power charges when i run into a shitty corridor with no mobs, other than that i had no problems yet. As said >>144721550 i keep my crit and acc at 90/90 atm. No money for better jewelry.

Also, if in any case i would ever drop my power charges because i crit too much (thep point of the build is to crit), anytime i would not crit, it would nearly instantly replenish my power charges. Fuck at times i even drop a random icewall into a pack if i see they got a rare or are a bit spread out.

http://poeplanner.com/AAIAAURBQUlHQVFBQWRRTWVCYlVISGczUkRrZ1BxeEV2RVpZVXNCYV9IMEVnYmlMaUlfWWtpeVQ5SnBVcUN5cE5LbHNyQ2kwZk1Id3hualdTTmowNjRUOG5RelpINGtsUlNzaE1zMDJTVGVOUU1GRkhVVXhTN0ZWTFhmSmZzR0hpWXF4alEycU1iSXh0Ykc2cWNGSnpjSG4yZlZ0X3hvSWVoTVdKMDR3TGpEYU5mWTJfbFNDVkxwcGhtN1dkcXAtSW9xT2kyYVE1cEhpbVY2eEhzTmkweGJWSXRmSzVmTUhWd2ZQQ2M4THN3enJJRk1wS3puRFVJOWk5M3ZqamhPZFU3TER3MWZKRjlXXzI1XzRLX29fXzNnbWdiT2NfYzJzWHZPckFWR3BEa3lmdmlQazMxODlKc1FlWkVKSXlNb1NpdkdfWmhnPT0ACEFBQUFBUUFBAAA=

My shitty as fuck tree, because i just went in with no plan. But so far it works well. Also im still using obliteration wand and shitty maligaros, might swap them for facebreakers tough.

Do you guys do unid or ID chaos recipe?
Or just unid for shit bases like studded belts / mana rings, etc.

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>>144720227

Hierophant Melee Totems

Good:

>Is Totems
>Takes nodes from best part of the tree
>"Melee" tankyness+Totem saftey
>OP Damage *without* crit equipment. Ridiculously high Boss DPS (Usually biggest problem with Totems)
>Possibly up there with CA for Uber killing build (Bladefall Trap probably still king though)

Bad:

>Is Totems
>Lack of good AoE scaling
>Hits in "arc"
>Proably outclassed by SWT with endgame gear due to above
>No Whirling Blades
>Mediocre 5th/6th link
>Hierophant required, but 5th+ Ascendancy Points wasted

>>144679591

Melee Totems are AIDS leveling up. Just level as a melee build and use Sunder/Earthquake+Melee Totems until you get the +2 Totems Ascendancy.

>>144722568

Why hierophant tough? It seems really ineffective compared to just dual totems.
3 totems = 210% effective dmg
4 totems = 240% effective dmg

Or did they change the less dmg per totem place and the wiki didn't update? Chieftain looks so much better for totems.

>>144676743
delete xyz

>>144723102
It was changed to 8%

>>144723102
you probably need the aoe from having four totems. Besides can you think of a better asc?

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>>144720227
>assassin's mark blasphemy
>>144720227
>wander
lmfuckingao
get belly for hp, wanders have no hp till 90+

those pc boots could solve your issue but yeah it's probably a pipe dream

what do you reserve on your mana?

please don't link poe planner

>>144723493
>what do you reserve on your mana?
Blasphemy temp chains and ass mark

Will replace ass mark with enfeeble once i get uber lab done for power charge generation

>>144723334

So its:
3 totems = 228%
4 totems = 272%

A lot better, but still not too sure. I guess if you are doing enough dmg, to clear its not an issue. And makes it comfy for the added coverage.

>>144723385

Yea, was thinking about chieftain.
>Chance to ignite 15%
>35% increased dmg to burning enemies
You most likely use herald of ash and fire damage anyway to scale totem dmg.

>Damage penetrates 10% fire res
>You gain 20% of phys dmg as fire if you killed recently
Not sure if it also applies to totems but sounds great.

>enemies near totems take 16% increased fire and phys dmg
>enemies near totems deal 8% reduced dmg

Both sounds great as well

>totems immune to fire dmg
>totems have 50% of your armour
>skills used by totems have a 20% chance to taunt
>totems reflect 8% of their hp as fire dmg to nearby enemies when hit

All but the dmg reflect sound great.

Imo sounds like you waste a lot less ascendancy points compared to heirophant, but you do lose aoe coverage trough more totems.

>>144723634

Wait what? You run double curse as wander?

>>144723634
I just don't get it man, why are you blasphemy as a wander

>>144724005
Because

1. I'm a chaos wander, i don't benefit from hatred or heralds

2. Temp chains increases poison duration, blasphemy temp chains has decent enough radius for boss fights

Might run Haste instead of a second curse, seeing as I don't get whirling blades as a wander.

>>144724350

Not the guy you replied, but i still use the ice/lightning herald even tough I'm focusing on chaos wanding. Its not enough dmg to make me care about ele reflect, but it does boost dmg quite a bit. The frost herald also helps to explode packs.

>>144724350
you didn't tell me why you're running them as blasphemy. Litterally make a coh if you need to

running them blasphemy is retarded

>>144723385

Fuck didnt write it all.

>Damage penetrates 10% fire res
>You gain 20% of phys dmg as fire if you killed recently
>1% of fire dmg leeched as life
>1% of totem damage is leeched as life to you

Who /flameblast/ here?

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>>144718324
FPS games are shit and boring
MOBAs are shit and boring
RPG games are meme and boring

ARPGs could become the new megagenre but not while GGG is tripping over them'reselves

>>144724767

Are you implying ARPG's aren't boring? When was the last time you booted up PoE? The only thing keeping us here is the serotonin discharge we get when shiny things drop, and even that wears off a few weeks into a new league when we notice we have been conned into playing the same shit again.

>>144724660
Because mob attack range is often within blasphemy radius, so defensive blasphemy makes sense. And CoH requires cast time which I can't afford on a squishy character.

Maybe I should try queen of the forest+grace for movement speed.

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why actually

>>144725619
no it doesn't require cast time and being in mob attack range isn't a defence

>>144725819
how are you gonna hit mobs without casting anything?
>inb4 cwdt curse memes

>being in mob attack range isn't a defence
>implying you're never in mob attack range as a wander
how's dried lake farming working out for you?

>>144725725
How do you level a coc discharge build? When did you go CI? General tips would be great since I want do a discharge build this league.

>>144726064
curse on hit
you attack with a wand
????

I have under 5k hp so I'm going to use a mechanic that forces me to stand close to mobs for it to take effect

>>144725725
my last three tabulas have turned out like that

>>144726064

He could be talking about coh+herald of lightning.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w7G2y6UV_I
>it's a HC players run into new content -episode

>>144726226
>attack to apply curse
lmao

>I have under 5k hp so I'm going to use a mechanic that forces me to stand close to mobs for it to take effect

What part of "defensive curse" do you not understand? It defends you from mobs that are a threat, you don't have to go near anything.

>>144726220
idk as u can tell by my jewelry/links i just rushed to maps and ive been yoloing it lv 73 atm, ive died a few times because i only recently bothered rolling a bleeding/freezing flask, i went CI at only like 4k ES so im squishy as all hell but between GR/VP and the cheat engine tier damage Elemental Equilibrium Discharge puts out i do fine up to like tier 5 havent gotten any higher maps but i for sure need more ES

i should have sold the damn tabula for regrets, i want to switch my bandit from endurance to power charge because having seen how much voll's amulet costs im not going to bother with that shit for awhile

>>144726451
you've never seen bows run split coh to apply assassins?

going closer to mobs then you need to on a build that struggles to get enough life is retarded

>>144726709
i've seen it and it's shit

assassin's is also an offensive curse needed to generate charges, not a defensive one protecting you from mobs that YOU DON'T NEED UNLESS THEY GET CLOSE

>>144726827
>Not an easy time generating power charges, assassin's mark blasphemy requires getting in close

yes slowing the enemy close to you is much better then slowing them far away. You did also mention you might drop 1 curse

there is no argument about needing to be close to mobs as a wander

>its a master spawns in pyramid episode

>>144727034
i said i'm gonna drop ass mark already, we're talking about defensive curses now.

There is no need to be close, but there is a need to protect you from mobs that get close.

>>144725327
i'm not talking about PoE specifically. this game is done for. GGG has mismanaged this game too badly for it to ever become as popular as MOBAs, FPS or RPGs but if another company came along and made a fun, competitive, well-made ARPG with a HC ladder and pvp tournaments then yes, i definitely think the ARPG genre could take off and be on the same level as other genres

>>144727341
a nice reason to deal cold damage is the freeze and chill, it's what makes hatred so great. So if you do have phys damage you should try it atleast

for mobs that get close you can just throw your wither totem like you were thinking of or a golem maybe. Moving back is easy

>>144727456

>pvp tournaments in a arpg
>hc ladder

You having a laff m8? Poe has a HC ladder and its competitive, for a bit. The only way to make it a bit more competitive is to scale the last 3-4 levels like crazy requiring 10 times more grind than now, so the race to 100 does not finish so soon.

Pvp in games that requires gear is and will stay a joke. This is why all the big E-Sport games do not require you to grind up shit first (except LoL)

>>144727727
>Pvp in games that requires gear is and will stay a joke.

>being this dumb

>>144727814

Ok, tell me, which E-Sport requires you to gear up a character?

>>144727814
Give us one example of a pvp game that succeeded on its own where players have to grind for top gear before competing.

>>144720227
>Full Lightning Pathfinder RoA/Burning

>good
Does more DPS than expected (currently 15k when EleOverload Proccs, 20k with BA both 4l)
Seems to scale extremly good with +%WED, Flat Lightning and %LightningDmg

>mediocre
Sruvival with 4k hp (shit gear atm; 180% life in tree)
Single EleReflect is scary as fuck
Fast moving targets can be a pain

>bad
Lightning Res mobs sonce I do not have LightPen socketed yet (no 5l)
EleReflect maps are the wost nightmare imaginable
No frenzy charge gen (might change this in the future)
Still having fucking mana problems, no good way for a fix in sight. Gulping like a shitlord at 77

So far, having fun with my homebrew Stormcloud/TheTempest build

>>144728097
Have you tried going for vaal pact and using topaz+jade+arrow dancing for reflect maps?

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reminder that PVP fags are a huge part why this game is ass and they ruin every game genre that isn't catered to them

>>144728220
Still not sure how to leech later on desu. Neither life nor mana. Life could be fixed with Doryianis Invitation later in the league. Mana, no clue.

yes, topaz is a good start, might do that. Thinking about VP cuz i'm right next to it, thanks.

>>144728426
vitality void cluster m8r

>>144728269
How?

>>144728779
Were you not here for the epic poe pvp patches emergence shitstorms?

The PvPfags demand the game to be changed for a game where pvp isn't the focus and waste dev time for things that actually matter and you get shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1OW2fjclBY

>>144729235
The development was worth it just so the community saw how bad PvP in PoE is and shut the fuck up about it.

>>144729469
pvp was implemented poorly just like everything else GGG does which returns me to my original point that GGG and PoE will never help ARPGs become more popular

>1h 50minutes Cruel with all skill points and library

How'd I do?

Has anyone hear played support at all? Is it any fun?

>>144729869
Get fucked

>>144730242
>is it fun being everyone's bitch and generally just leeching
Your call

>>144730242
>being a supportcuck
sure if you like being on the sides watching everyone do the mobs and all you can do are (war)cries

so as a coc discharge is it even worth taking the frenzy point thing? wouldn't it fuck up the EE proc?

>>144730057

Bretty good.

The real question is if anyone helped you with WP or boss kills.

>>144730242

I played a bit of guardian support last league. Guardians are fucking crazy good in parties. But its only fun if you enjoy doing nothing but running after your teammates as everything melts.

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I found some unusually welcome sleek testing out a new build on standard for Poophecy
it's dependent on having a full passive reset available though.

>On an un-ascended character with cruel and merc available
>complete normal lab and select ascendancy class.
>place points and get message about losing full passive reset, "are you sure?"..
>Select no

>Do above again Thrice
>Then use full passive reset
>"Eight ascendancy points remaining"

Neat

>>144727987
>it's a "you need mirrored gear to play pvp" post again

>>144731018
>>144731135
>>144731241
How easy do you think it'd be able to get somebody to carry me through maps as a support? I don't have anyone to play with, but I figured I'd be able to find people to map with.

>>144731326
I'd suggest not doing the cuckbuild if not with a friend/someone you know

>died in act 2 normal

I am so bad at this game

>>144731286

Well dodged question m8.

Im not the guy you replied too, but that is why pvp is a joke when you need gear to be competitive. Its fun, but it wont be serious or big.

>>144731326

Its better to find someone before you decide to roll a support, but even my asocial ass managed to find people after i already leveled as a support by getting to fucking 75 with flame totems and sear.

>>144720227

>CoC Trickster

Good:

>11K ES
>Damage while moving
>Any and all mods, even elemental reflection.
>Really fast
>Proc'ing with Shield Charge

Bad:

>Cyclone still outperforms Shield Charge on elemental resistant bosses ;;;(

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Why is my crit chance going lower after equiping vagan's dagger over gut ripper? attack speed? I guess crafting crit chance on it might make it better..

What's the best skill this patch to level up while taking literally no damage nodes? just flameblast?

>>144731204
For trickster? No. It's free damage.

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>>144732367
yes

we /flameblast/ again

>>144732367
Flameblast as it always should be

Do you have any crit nodes that only apply to claws?

>>144732267

Check your skill tree? Might be that you have some claw crit nodes or you had charges when checking gut rippers crit chance.

I've never done flameblast until now, why do people use prolif with it? I'm already killing everything on the screen without needing to spread the burns everywhere.

>>144732449
>>144732459
you're right forgot about those 3 points.. phew.. my crit went from 49 to 60 lol nice

>>144732579
For reflect purposes and because it synergizes better than anything else in the game

>>144732383
I just keep thinking I'd rather have 4% attack speed from a small node, than a few frenzy charges that don't really carry through to fights.

Is it possible to reach 8-9k es with CI while having lighting coil?

>>144733301

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Frenzy_charge

Its literally FREE MORE DAMAGE

all tehse stupid faygotas playing flameblast prolif when DD prolif is a jizzillion time sbetter rolf

>>144733470
You realize its bai bai after the first discharge

>>144733807

Fair enough, but its right back because you are generating charges right?

It might interfere with EE tough if you are using it.

>>144733913
I'm not that guy but if you're using EE and proccing cold with your hits the dmg of the cold part of discharge would be lowered, but I think it would still be the same because even if you're proccing cold with the discharge you will ALWAYS hit once before one so it wouldn't fuck up the EE, it would just lower the cold part of it by 25% so basically it IS free damage

advantages of DD over flameblast:

>DD can't be reflected

>>144734505
advantages of flameblast over DD:

>is actually a good skill

>>144734505

>Scales with map levels.

>>144734505
DD?

>>144733378
Sanctuary of thought Hierophant with 0-cost ancestral chieftains for blood magic maps.

>>144734561
>DD does more damage
>DD doesn't need to be channeled
>DD is more fun