/shmupg/ Shooting Game General

>>144625183
first for shmups

4th for the KBR group

STG stream aggregator: https://stgrillz.appspot.com/

/shmupg/ high-score list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0DesawgMQiFNMv2MZxxwdjzBudCIMMb3BkjQJaHjxI/edit?usp=sharing

/Shmupg/ community YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA

How does scoring works on the Imalice demo?
I know there was an anon who used to play it for score around here, pls tell me he's still around.

>>144625183
nth for where the fuck is Steel Rondo?

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>>144628318
It's basically a caravan game. The faster you kill enemies, the more will spawn within the time limit.
Those leaf items decide your rank for special wave.
Goes like: Green/Normal -> Blue/Easy -> Orange/Hard+Score -> Red/NotevenfunHard.
There's also some milking spots here and there.
I probably missed a few strats because I don't remember them well.

>>144631487
I see, thank you.
Have you made any scoring videos for it anon?

>system11 is a cuck and people who use the word as a pejorative trigger him
discuss

>>144632563
Uh, maybe one?

>>144633120
Post it

"Cuck" has become a replacement for the word "fag," because subconsciously, we do not want to discriminate against homos. "Cuck" is a neutral term that is applicable to both hetero and homosexuals alike. It can be argued that people who use the word "cuck" are, in fact, the biggest cucks of them all, because they're don't want to hurt the little gayboy's feelings while attempting to insult another person.

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Published another video just now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr-sIri215Y
A pretty cool Strikers 1945 1-ALL!

I also received an awesome replay from the guy that mentioned PCB in the last thread. I think I'll have that up either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

And here is that 100:YEN documentary I mentioned earlier which I added English subtitles to. Do you guys think I should publish this as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqXPY4K-t0

>>144633552
How will this knowledge help me at shmups?

>>144633284
https://youtu.be/BzH0OCqcgTc
It's not THAT good.

>>144633710
Being able to work out the psychology of the cuck phenomenon is a skill that can be applied to anything, including shmups. It is advanced level problem solving.

>>144633732
That's alright anon, it's a nice start.
Also compared to other videos I've seen you went after the missiles the boss drops but it doesnt seem to add anything to your score at all, how odd.

tfw shmups have been cucked by idols and lolis

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>>144633680
>Strikers 1945 first loop is 12 mins long
Fuck, I never noticed how short it was.

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if there's one thing nippon will never get right it's using ball top over bat top

>>>144633680
Where i send replays? maybe i can do a decent score on Batsugun original.

>>144636237
Bat tops are for westerners and Koreans, both of which are seen as being on the same level as dogs in Japan

>>144633680
Interested in an 29m Moeshitsama Original or Fuantari BL clear?

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>>144636765
You may send your replays to [email protected] and I'll give them a look soon! Please include information like what game, emulator and ROM you're using. And also if you want me to put something in the description of the video or whatever.

>>144636918
I can work with a Mushihimesama replay if you're using the Steam version. I don't have the equipment to record from consoles.

Unless you mean a replay for a sh3-supporting MAME edition, do replays for those even work?

>>144634607
>missiles the boss drops
Heh, that's because I didn't knew that these missiles are actually destructible. What I did is just disable them.
I guess 3 laser bombs required to score that part. (2 for missiles and 1 for armor plates after that.)

Hey kraut good job on wolflame insane, what level did you get to?

>>144636894
European joysticks had ball tops.

>>144642858
Wow, four beach balls!

Bunp

bump das boot

I think the casuals who can afford to install cabs at their homes and buy multiple PCBs for them are in fact those that truly won the game, not the poor players with deteriorating physical and mental conditions.

>>144647305
Give your life to shmups or get the fuck out of my sight.

>>144647305
Collectors are cancer

prom and his ilk are cheaters

>>144648998
Every western superplayer is a cheater

>>144649428
>western """"""""""""superplayer"""""""""""

>>144649515
Yes that's what he said

>>144648998
>play emulated DDP on a keyboard which is obviously inferior to stick, on emulation which has more input lag than a cab so is obviously more difficult
>not actually get an extremely high score, pretty high but not enough to qualify for being a superplayer in this day and age
>cheater

>>144650271
>western "superplayers" are so bad, even with cheats they can't beat the Japanese

>>144650476
Like 90% of Western talent plays Touhou, 9% plays arcade shmups but refuses to play any one of them for real, 1% or less does both but so far their scores only come close instead of overtopping the Japanese WR.

>>144650952
>Like 90% of Western talent plays Touhou
lol

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It starts with
One thing I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time

All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away

It's so unreal
Didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on, but didn't even know
Or wasted it all just to watch you go

I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be
A memory of a time when

I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end it doesn't even matter

One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind I designed this rhyme
To remind myself how

I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mocking me
Acting like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised

It got so far
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me in the end

You kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be
A memory of a time when

I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end it doesn't even matter

I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
And for all this
There's only one thing you should know

I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
And for all this
There's only one thing you should know

I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end it doesn't even matter

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I love how in Unlimited mode in Crimzon Clover, I have an easier time with the final level than in earlier levels like the third and fourth level with only losing one life throughout the stage yet in other stages I fuck up quite a bit. The bosses (namely Maelstrom and Diabolos) are a hell of a lot more fun in the difficulty than in original mode oddly enough.

>>144653229
what is the edgiest shmup?

>>144653697
Imperishable Night

>>144653229
https://youtu.be/PDAXlQUKFLE

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>>144653871
does this look edgy to you?!
>>144653697
hmm.. aren't a lot of them like post apocalyptic shit? I'm not that well versed in their stories unfortunately, but isn't there one where you kill yourself or something?

>>144653697
Ikaruga or r type

>>144654837
Look at that jet black hair with a hime cut, and unironically being a princess in 2016. It's the definition of edge.

>>144654837
Ketsui

Cave: "we want the edgy audience"
Japs: "give me cute girls or fuck off"
Westies: "ketsui is the best shmup ever!!!"

>>144655447
>Cave: "we want the edgy audience"
more like the gay audience

>>144653697
Metal Black.

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>wanted to play shmups today
>played overwatch for 12 hours instead

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>>144657886
>overwatch
You deserve no sympathy whatsoever.

>>144657886
Why are you even here? go back to your meme game

>>144658214
but i'm here because i love meme games and meme genres

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>>144657886
>tfw played both

>>>/vr/3274701
>you can't play 2hu casually

Has Kraut-kun finally lost his mind?

>>144658580
2hu can only be played casually

>>144657886
So long as you don't main Mercy or pick Hanzo every game you're cool.

>>144658958
>So long as you don't main Mercy
If I don't my team will lose

>>144659781
Maining a healslut will affect your philosophy and turn it into that of a gay twink, and the next thing you know, you'll be faced with gender dysphoria, the need for validation like you get in your endgame votes, and you'll take the irreversible decision to start HRT and become a tranny. I mourn your masculinity.

>>144625183
Isn't this thread supposed to be filled with touhous?

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>>144661070
Why would it be?

>>144661070
No, it's a known fact that Touhou players don't actually play the games and therefore are unable to participate in shmup threads.

>>144661070
No it's supposed to be filled with bullets

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>>144661070
Sorry, here you go.

>>144634819
i havent cucked anything with idols and lolis, they all knew about each other before we got serious

>>144661070
They got bullied too hard and fucked off back to /jp/ where they belong.

>>144658958
fuck you. Mercy's Mercs!

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>>144661070
>>144661791
I'm right here. Had to work after the last thread died, but I did maek poast about advancing further in Eschatos.

Y'all are fucking gay btw, if you want to shitpost about what games other people like then go make the /vr/ thread again.

>>144633680
>Do you guys think I should publish this as well?
No because it is terrible quality. 360p? Cmon senpai. There is a 1080p version available.

>>144662328
What makes Eschatos fun?

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>>144662550
For advanced mode, it's the idea that you have to play very dangerously to git gud scores, since you'll be at high power and thus have very little shield to use. For normal, I don't know? Music's good I guess, and it uses the stuff that I liked in JSS but doesn't have any of the shit I disliked, like most bullets pushing your or lasting forever, or killing you through your shield.

>>144662328
>>144662781
Stop posting what I don't like.

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>>144661070
Here, best touhou i could find on my hard drive.

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>>144663997
Well you're in luck, I lost most of my Touhou pics when my hard drive fried. Not the games though, they were the first ones I reinstalled.

Bump this shit niggas

>>144664697
It was 6 fucking minutes since the last post you porch monkey.

>>144664808
No race

>>144664140
>saving secondary 2hu images
LMAO CIRNO FROZE SUWACKERS SO FANNY XDDD

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>>144661070
Alright.

>>144665072
There are 5 ho's whose images I save and that image works for 2 of them, even if it is secondary shit.

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>>144665075
That's the stuff.

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>

>>144666653
Is it "I Malice," "I'm Alice," or "I'm a Lice?"

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>>144666998
Let's ask uncle Goo-

>>144666653
Post the boss sprites

It's actually iMalith

>>144664808
good to know you can count

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Bumpety bomb

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>>144669865
Oh look, it's you.

Don't get hit.

>>144678108
its too late for me

>>144678108
What do you take me for, a non-scrub?

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Will this thread come back to life if I stream some Mushihimesama?

Also I'm not familiar with the, err, lore of Mushi, so I might've botched something or other in the profile. La-ti-da.

Gus is streaming. fxnj on youtube.

>>144678108
It was an intentional suicide, promise

>>144681029
wait its gus translating these?

>>144681029
Yeah
Unless it's 1.5, then it will die forever

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>>144681029
>her voluptuous body makes her look older than she truly is.

>>144681763
No he still hasn't booked his Japanese tutor

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>>144681586
Well nuts to my idea then I guess. I'll try again another day!

>>144681763
>>144681946
N-No, I've hardly played Mushi before.

>>144682253
stream bitch

>>144682026
何を撃つか?

>>144682439
Nani

>gus whines about no viewers
>continues to stream on youtube

>>144681029
>Also I'm not familiar with the, err, lore of Mushi, so I might've botched something or other in the profile. La-ti-da.
She's a goddess rather than a god, but that's more of an English language thing... Being 15 years old, she should also be called a girl rather than a woman.

>>144682439
何で勉強してないのぉ?

>>144682536
Can't stream shirtless on twitch

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>>144682349
make me

>>144682623
Why is it ok for girls to show their tits then

>>144682771
Its not dummy

>>144682908
You need two things to be a girl streamer on twitch
Cleavage and a webcam several times bigger than the game window

>>144682649
You want it.

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>>144682554
Good points.

>>144683393
Compelling argument. I guess it wouldn't hurt to stream some. Setting up for Mushihimesama Original, should start soon. I don't know what I'll be aiming for, I guess just practicing survival or something, aiming for a clear.

http://twitch tv/harrykoakuma

>>144683681
When are you gonna sign up to STGrillz?!

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Don't forget to post your scores inside the spreadsheet guys. Even if it's not the most amazing score seen in the history of shmupkind.

>>144686031
You can post scores to the spreadsheet?

>>144687514
sheet 2 is freely editable

>>144687514
There are 2 sheets, one that everyone can edit and one that gets edited by the creator.

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>>144686031
I threw in my DS score, so it can now be the shmupg record. That's cool, right?

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>>144685458
I'm kind of hesitant to do that since I often stream non-shmup stuff, possibly more often than I stream shmups, so I'm not sure if my channel would be welcome on STGrillz.

>>144692198
Your channel would be welcome on STGrillz. If you're not streaming a shmup, you can just leave the [STG] or [2HU] title outside of your stream title. That way you won't show up when you're not streaming a shump.

>>144692198
I'm pretty sure you have to put some kind of tag in the stream title for it to show up there.

>>144635240
tfw 12 mins is stage 3 in CCWI

>>144642858
who is this bullets demon?

>>144681029
Who the hell is Muchi Muchi Pink? Was there MMP collab?

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>>144683681
Stream over, thanks for watching. Maniac mode might be more my speed than Original. Either way, I'd like to clear them both someday.

>>144692527
>>144692583
Oh, well if that's the case, then I suppose I'll sign up there before my next shmup stream.

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>>144694229
>who is this bullets demon?
Some cutie from Soukyugurentai

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>>144694392
This chick. I don't have her myself but she's in this game too. Not sure about the other pig girls.

The "A.I" on Reco's compatibility list is someone else from another Cave game. I'm really not too familiar with it all. Pretty sure I do have her card though...

>>144694414
>Maniac mode might be more my speed than Original
Maniac mode is the more Cave-y way to play the game, and the version I prefer. Original isn't bad though.

>>144689698
Added it! Enjoy your new record. And if you're lucky, it won't be broken by anyone else.

>>144694889
I see you post these all the time and never see the games name mentioned, what is it?

>>144704214
Boku no Not a Shmup

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>>144704214
It's a mobile shmup game called Gothic wa Mahou Otome, for Android and I think iOS.

It was never officially released outside of Japan but getting it is surprisingly simple. The in-game text and all is in Japanese, but it's still perfectly playable. If anyone's interested in trying it for themselves, I can help with that.

blimp

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tfw no smart phone to play cave's latest and greatest

>>144709005
tfw no ichimen bancho for android

How do people get good at so many games? I understand being good at a few games if you dedicate months or years to playing them exclusively, but this is bullshit. Please explain.

>>144716474
like who?

>>144717228
Jaimers for example.

>>144717302
1ccing games is not really that hard, the stuff he does isn't even comparable to really good scores

>>144717390
But he has a lot of very high scores in addition to tons of 1ccs.

>>144716474
~ T A L E N T ~

>>144717302
He literally plays games all day long and doesn't even have a job. Of fucking course he'd have a lot of 1cc's.

>>144717881
where are those "very high" scores?

>>144718523
How do you know this?

I remember once when someone kept refusing to add a Japanese player's score on the farm.

>>144719185
no competent players allowed, only western records

>>144682536
>>gus whines about no viewers
>>continues to stream on youtube
Yeah if i didn't browse here i'd never have anyway of knowing he's even streaming.

>>144718586
His Rayforce, Strania, Dangun Feveron, and Raiden 4 videos are close to the World Records I believe.

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>>144719262
I'm kind of like that too. I mean I don't usually whine about no viewers but like I don't really have a way of letting people know I stream. If it's a shmup stream then I'll post here at least, but if it's a non-shmup stream like I'm doing now then I pretty much just fire it up and play. Whoever happens to stop in will see, otherwise I might go without viewers at all.

Totally not a stealth plug for my stream right now. It's not like I can't sleep at the dead of night so I'm streaming something out of boredom and trying to get someone to come hang out with me or anything.

Why doesn't gus stream on Shitbox?

don't stream: guranteed zero viewers
do stream: maybe get more than zero viewers

looks like an easy choice to me boys

>>144720482
but people will witness your autism

>>144716474
They put a lot of time into them and play the genre since a long time already. Plus they also got some talent I guess.

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Bump before bed. Good luck with whatever you're doing /shmupg/, and for the love of God stop ramming into that one lone bullet that's lazily drifting across the screen when there are no bullets anywhere else.

>>144720175
>Why doesn't gus stream on Shitbox?
Twitch is where he should be desu that way other shmup cucks can host him etc and i'l get an email knowing he's streaming.

>>144725928
>not wanting to see gus' muscular body

>>144726079
But it isn't youtube controlling his cam angle?

can someone explain this okuuposting meme to me pls?

>>144717390
He has some nice scores and tons of tough-shit 2-All though. But yeah it's probably just NEET practice.

>not being NEET master race
>2016
smdh

>>144731263
hmm, nah.

>>144731731
"tough-shit 2-Alls" are nothing compared to for example pazzys DOJ WL score though. I can't judge the scores he's gotten because I'm not very familiar with those games though

>>144732746
Yeah but he plays tons of different games. Being great at so many different things is better than grinding one thing for 2000 hours.

>>144732746
You are proving the point of what anon said before, Pazzy is excellent at one game, Jaimers is great in many games.

>>144733191
> Being great at so many different things is better than grinding one thing for 2000 hours.
lifting 20 light weights in succession is better than lifting one heavy weight?
>>144733295
compared to pazzy jaimers is really just mediocre in many games

>>144733191
>Being great at so many different things
>Yeah but he plays tons of different games.
>different things
>games.
He's a loser like most gamers lets face it.

>>144733295
>Pazzy is excellent at one game, Jaimers is great in many games.
Spreading your mediocrity (althought way above average in gaymers case) over many games is not equal to the skill and effort of pushing one to an extreme although it may be more fun to the individual understandably. It comes down to whether you have desire to have fun clearing games or are on some quest to produce a great score.

>>144733395
A pony that can do one trick really good is not as good as a pony who can do many tricks

>>144733395
>lifting 20 light weights in succession is better than lifting one heavy weight?
I agree with you generally but that is a terrible example as different weights have completely different benefits as do the infinite scenarios that can bias to either. Lifting light weights is better for toning and speed whilst lifting heavy will produce bulky muscles and high strength at the cost of agility and speed for example.

>>144733504
Depends on the value of the ponies abilities to the person judging it. A ponies value is determined by the outsiders looking in as it lacks conscious thought to determine purpose for itself and is much confined to genetic assignment than us.

>>144733504
this one-trick-pony meme in shmups needs to die, everybody that can reach exellence in one game could easily be good at other games, some people just don't bother and to be honest I can relate with the mindset of trying to improve further and further in one game rather than doing one thing and then doing another roughly equally difficult thing

>>144733395
>compared to pazzy jaimers is really just mediocre in many games
The other way around desu, Pazzy is better in one game, Jaimers is better in any other game.

>>144733496
>spreading mediocrity
post you're scores

>>144733687
>I agree with you generally but that is a terrible example as different weights have completely different benefits as do the infinite scenarios that can bias to either. Lifting light weights is better for toning and speed whilst lifting heavy will produce bulky muscles and high strength at the cost of agility and speed for example.
I was thinking in the context of weight lifting competitions, though I guess I should have specified that

>>144733736
>some people just don't bother
Because it's harder to learn a huge array of things than it is to keep doing one thing over and over

Could it be the different between literal and figurative autism?

>>144733867
Fair enough I guess you mean power lifting specifically although it doesn't stand still if im being pedantic (sorry) as for example doing fast high number reps of lower weights takes just as much effort but tests in a different way, games have much clearer defined objectives lets just say.

>>144733860
>post you're scores
Why? we are speaking of pazzy and jaimers but im getting that you haven't really grasped my point.

>>144733860
>The other way around desu, Pazzy is better in one game, Jaimers is better in any other game.
Incorrect as the skill level Pazzy has acquired is beyond that of which Jaimers has spread over many titles, if Pazzy applies the same ethics to another game he will stomp gaymers one by one but obviously it will take more time to cover them all.

>>144734075
>Because it's harder to learn a huge array of things than it is to keep doing one thing over and over
I think you're being sarcastic but just in case not, learning one super hard thing will always be harder than learning a bunch of easier things although sometimes the things you learn compliment the learning of others also so all learning is important for progressions sake. It's as simple as this going for SPS Ketsui WR will tax anyone in everyway for much longer than a Jaimers getting loads of 1ccs. A guy spending 7 years getting loads of 1ccs is not equal to the guy spending 7 years to clear DDP death label.

>>144734124
Incorrect. If Jaimers spent all his time on one game he would own it.

>>144734340
>If Jaimers spent all his time on one game he would own it.
Yeah but he didn't did he that's the point, lets try and stay within reality please. Hypothetical has no place here it's like that annoying uncle who claims if he kept playing football as a kid he was totes gonna be pro.

>>144734124
Skill level just come down to amount of time practiced in one game, Pazzy is that good in DOJ WL because he most likely spent the time Jaimer take for clearing 10 games.

>>144734316
You just proved my point cuz the guy that spent 7 years playing death label is never brought up when people talk about the best shmup players. They talk about the guys who are great at countless games.

>>144734503
>Skill level just come down to amount of time practiced in one game
By this logic every WR will just come down to who spends the most time on a game, it's like thinking you can beat usain bolt if you train more than he does.

>>144734560
Oh so now validation comes from whose name comes up the most during conversation? Are you for real? So forget skill the best boxer who is ever people talk about the most? Sorry but you're retarded and who exactly are you referring to anyway?

>>144734560
no they talk about wr holders

>>144734808
of course other factors count, but i'd not be surprised to see a WR holder is the one that spends most time on the game

>Usain Bolt
sports = playing toys bro

>>144733496
>Spreading your mediocrity (althought way above average in gaymers case) over many games is not equal to the skill and effort of pushing one to an extreme
Pazzys DOJ score isn't even that good. He just got the western record in it, but Jaimers also has some western records.

>>144734808
>who exactly are you referring to anyway?
SWY for example. The people who beat his scores are the ones who grind the game forever after he moves on and dominates a new game from square one.

>>144735156
Sure but the point still stands even if the players are a poor example, try not to get pedantically hung up on minor details.

>>144735204
This is true but SWY is also just that dude who does have a bunch of WRs that still stand, His Guwange counter stop for example is something i don't believe we will ever see a westerner replicate.... Gus you wanna get that counter stop?

>>144735338
>the point still stands
No, it doesn't stand at all. Sure, you shouldn't move from one game to the other in a couple of hours, but you make it sound as if everyone should be only playing one single game and that's it, which is just retarded.

>>144735454
Well your comprehension abilities and need to fill space with assumptions are not my problem so rather than waste time on you il just simply say that no where did i say or imply anything about what anyone "should" be doing. The conversation is solely about certain indviudals and what they do do so how you got from there to some hypothetical assumption drenched mental playground is beyond me.

>>144735338
>but the point still stands
How? Jaimers has more western records and is better at more games.

>>144735338
That's because none of the western superplayers care about Guwange.

Counter stoppable games are bad examples either way. They have a hard cap that the Japs reach very quickly. A game with infinite room for improvement is harder to get a World Record in than one that's been maxed out.

>>144735643
"western records" don't matter, what matters is the quality of runs

>>144735643
BUT DUUUDE, HE PLAYS MORE THAN JUST DOJ!!!

Also, I'm a hipster and dislike anything remotely popular

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Gus was right.

I give zero fucks about pump and dump clears and any results brought in a short time (i.e. a low amount of effort). To me STG is about pushing the maximum potential of the player and the limits of the game, and an endless series of STGT-style sloppy seconds runs counter to that, embodying lack of commitment and wasted potential.

In Jaimers's case, it's obvious he has strong talent, but how strong is he? With players such as Pazaizy, Ako, Cactu, other Touhou players, Gus, and more, their dedication to the game has produced proof of a peak in their ability, and run(s) show a clear degree realized potential (not to say they can't be even better in the future, just that results have been procured)... with a guy like Jaimers, we'll always be talking "what if" and "if only he played". For sure his potential is greater than what his cheese clears score but how does it compare to that of players with great replays? We just don't know, not with the replays he's procured at the present time that do not come close to pushing his limits.

Banananamatic > Kraut > everyone else, end of discussion

>>144735715
>implying his Dangun and Rayforce run aren't great
dumbass

>>144735643
Fuck you are dumb as cunt, the point still stands because it extends past the examples of pazzy and jaimers you fucking autistic braindead cum eater. Being mediocre at lots of games is not the same as being godly at one, the end.

>>144735606
>The conversation is solely about certain indviudals
What does this have to do with anything, you fucktard? You are still trying to tell me, I should just constantly play one single game and nothign else, which is dumb as fuck.

>>144735712
>That's because none of the western superplayers care about Guwange.
So prom doesn't qualify? really? and he barely got half way.

>>144735712
>They have a hard cap that the Japs reach very quickly.
Oh you mean like donpachi? what was it? 17 years?

>>144736020
Ahhh its you, Sorry Kraut but at this stage i believe you are either a godly troll or genuinely have mental issues and therefore i will ignore you or at least give you the abuse you deserve for being such a dirty mum shite.

>>144735941
>Being mediocre at lots of games is not the same as being godly at one
He has more records though, is your brain rotten or something?

>>144735778
>Touhou
Low competition. All of the talented players focus on CAVE and Psiyko.
>Ako, Cactu
Who?

>>144736028
>Oh you mean like donpachi? what was it? 17 years?
???

>>144736219
a lot of touhouplayers put a lot of effort into the games because there is low competition? What kind of braindamage does it take to come up with logic like this?

>>144736471
There are no elite players to judge their effort against because none of them care about Touhou. You can't compare a CAVE Western Record to SWY's score and think it's the same as comparing a Touhou Western Record to the World Record. Unless you are delusional.

>>144736761
>western record
good thing you don't need to give any thought about "western records" in touhou, because western touhou players have real WRs

>>144736761
>There are no elite players to judge their effort against
ISO???

>>144736761
>this is what cavedrones actually believe

>>144736891
That shows how weak the competition is in Touhou, then. You proved my point.

>>144736948
What about him?

>>144736956
Not only CAVE, but all big time shmup producers. Psiyko, Raizing, and such.

>>144736219
>All of the talented players focus on CAVE and Psiyko
Only because these are basically the only shmup companies who still released somewhat modern games.

>>144736321
Donpachi CS happened around 15-17yrs after release.

>>144737078
>What about him?
ISO is one of the best players and has records in Touhou. Or are you trying to tell me ISO is not a top player? LMAO

>>144737187
>ISO is one of the best players and has records in Touhou.
Where? And who beat his records? A guy who plays only one game while ISO gets World Records in countless other ones?

>>144737107
>almost every CAVE game has a counter stop
Christ, how little efort do thy even put into their shit?

>>144737312
>Christ, how little efort do thy even put into their shit?
See steam port quality.

>>144737289
>Where?
You already answered this yourself, dumbfuck. He has records in all kinds of games.
>A guy who plays only one game
That's mostly the case. Doesn't mean that Touhou has no competition though, quite the opposite.

the guy that said touhou has no competition also doesn't know who cactu is, he's clearly just pulling shit out of his ass

>>144737107
I searched for Donpachi counter stop. They say it was done in emulation, by a nobody. You are gullible if you think it is not cheated.

>>144737510
>He has records in all kinds of games.
Yes ISO plays countless games.

>Doesn't mean that Touhou has no competition though, quite the opposite.
It does when ISO is the only big player in it. A Touhou World Record is like a World Record in any other indie or console game. Low level.

>>144738109
>It does when ISO is the only big player in it
iSO also has records in CAVE games. Does that mean CAVE also have no competition? Fuck off.

>>144738109
try to just play stage 1 of pcb like yusuke, should be easy, right? Just one stage on the same level as a low level run?

what world records does ISO exactly hold in touhou?

>>144738257
I will restate my point because you must have missed it. All of the world's most talented players focus on CAVE and the other big producers games. Not Touhou. Because ISO is the only name you can mention, it shows how little the series is valued by the best.

>>144695329
Thanks, and quite the contrary--I'll be lucky if a new face beats my score, because competition in this thread would be great, so I'd be down for it. I'm actually confident about reaching a much higher score (in terms of effort) than what I submitted, if given enough time and motivation. Currently, I just want to get it up to 80m. It's teaching me a lot of new skills.

Actually, it might sound bad, but I prioritise dodging and reading skills more than knowledge of scoring strategies, but since it is only playing for score that pushes me into the most extreme reading and dodging challenges, I do scoring as well, but it is technically secondary to former purpose... For sure, scenes that are simple RNG grinds lose their luster very quickly to me since I'm not so much about raw numbers.

>>144738735
ISO has been beaten in most categories he played, you're basically saying touhou players are worse because they're not the same people as cave players, which is quite a weak argument

>>144738735
>All of the world's most talented players focus on CAVE
LMAO, really talented players focus on all kinds of games.

>>144738974
I am saying Touhou players are worse because they're not the same as arcade players. The level of competition in arcades is incredibly higher than indie PC games.

>>144739068
>and the other big producers games
Can you read? Don't answer, I see that you can not.

>>144739228
and you're basing it on pulling it out of your ass, nothing more.
Of course there are some weaker categories, but most overall touhou worldrecords are incredibly optimized, just to give you an example: back when ISO played PCB lunatic with reimuB his highscore was 2.4b, to day the worldrecord is above 3.6b

why do you fucking nerds argue about east vs west instead of trying to improve you're sco'res

>>144739358
You still act as if everyone mainly focuses on Cave, dumbfuck.
If you merely judge by popularity, then shmups are not competitive anyway compared to genres like fighting games.

>>144739448
That only hurts your point. It shows he played it a little and didn't care enough to continue.

>>144739915
>a little
over 1000 hours, which may well be more than what you've spent at all shmups in general

touhou is shit and nobody good cares about them
case closed, moving on

>>144739572
It's not really arguing, just always retards spouting retardation.

The problem with many Touhou records is that there's too many categories. IN alone has over 100 of them and there simply isn't enough great players to push them as far as the optimized categories have been pushed. In a CAVE game you have like three shots and then maybe two or three difficulties. It's a lot easier to find players to push these to their maximum than it is to find 250 players to push the Touhou games in every category so a lot of them just end up being quite weak.

Of course there are really fantastic Touhou players as well. Yu-suke was already mentioned but he is obviously not the only one. Inefushi, Gobou, Cactu (who was also mentioned), soc and KG are all great and that's still not everyone. Not to mention that in recent times, plenty of new prospects have popped up for Touhou who one day might become very good.

Doesn't Kraut have the Satazius WR? He is the best in the west.

>>144737810
Your google-fu is as bad as your english. It's legit.

>>144740565
Nope he'[s 2 million short of the best score i've seen althought his dumb ass will probably scream "hackerz!!".

Seriously you guys need to stop replying to Kraut, the guy is clearly mentally ill.

>>144737810
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53135

Chibare is a "nobody" because he's done nothing but play donpachi amongst a secretive group of players for years.

>>144740004
1000 hours means nothing. He could have spent 900 playing everything, not just "reimuB". He could have left it on pause and jerked it to hentai. The result speaks for itself. He didn't take it seriously.

>>144740657
If it was legit, then why isn't his score recognized by the pros? The top score they see is a much lower one from SOF WTN. Again, you are gullible. Emulation is cheater heaven.

>>144741198
>why isn't his score recognized by the pros?
But it is you ass clown.

> B-B-BUT MUH ARCADIA

Dickhead.

>>144740896
>In chibare site (at the end of the page) there is a long discussion (46 comments) about this video. Some jap players accuse Chibare that the video is fake", other speak about mame replay is not acceptable, other don't believe etc.

>In a comment Chibare confirm his identity: him is BGR-44!

>Mmmmm.


Thank you for improving my argument.

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>>144740756
Show me that score of 8.4 million pls

>>144741515
Krauts learnt to hack i see, shame I guess he's so desperate to be at the top he will do anything now to get there. He's the maradonna of shmups, a true loser.

>>144741198
>The result speaks for itself. He didn't take it seriously.
your logic is so backwards it hurts, just give up on your lost point

>>144741515
based KBR clan tearing it up

why did I come back here

>>144742061
bcuz youre a lil bitch

>>144742061
because we're your best friends

>>144741648
>his dumb ass will probably scream "hackerz!!"
>Krauts learnt to hack i see

>>144742401
>Implying that'd stop him.

Great false correlation there brony.

>>144741757
My point will stand until I see big name players on Touhou. One person that plays everything does not help it's case.They are low competition, like all indie and console games.

>>144742559
You are totally missing the point, which is that you are a hypocrite, who screams "HACKER!!" himself

imagine if Kraut was a woman

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>>144742896
>britbong btfo

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>>144743000
this thread has

>britbong btfo
>touhou btfo
>chibare btfo
>pazzy btfo
>jaimers btfo

fucking epic

>>144742654
this post >>144740403 mentions some big name touhouplayers. Of course you won't recognize them because you don't care about touhou. On the same account someone that's into touhou and doesn't care about arcades could say that arcades have no big name players. Once again your logic is completely backwards, just like when your supposed arcade superplayer is beaten by touhouplayers after mroe than 1000 hours of play and you decide if he was beaten, he can't have been serious, even though the opposite is evident

>>144742896
They don't correlate you dumb cunt as i never screamed "hacker" genuinely it's a fucking quote from kraut like 2 days ago, Kraut did this other day when someone beat his score in case you missed it. Video games really do attract lowest common denominators.

>>144742896
It just seems comical that you'd reach such a score after previously dismissing similar submissions as cheated.

>>144743316
>i never screamed "hacker"
>Krauts learnt to hack i see
dumb?

the only hacker on satazius is the 99 miilllion on easy mode

>>144743415
They don't correlate but please keep trying for my entertainment.

>>144743375
This, Kraut either played for 48 hrs straight determined to beat it because reasons or he cheated which we all know he did.

>>144743375
Nigger, I already no-missed Satazius almost 50 hours in. It's really not that hard to no-miss it.

The reason I called the other guy a hacker is just because he only has 2.5 hours in the game on steam and barely plays any shmups.

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>frogposting
Really now?

>>144743654
call them dumb, that works!

Kraut has a WR, that officially makes him a superplayer. Why aren't you as good as the Kraut?

>>144743603
>The reason I called the other guy a hacker is just because he only has 2.5 hours in the game on steam and barely plays any shmups.


>THERE IS NO GAMING OUTSIDE STEAM
>IF SOMEONE BEATS MY AWESOME SELF THEY MUST OF CHEATED

Germany will always be put in it's place by the British.

>>144743814
>THERE IS NO GAMING OUTSIDE STEAM
I forgot about the fact there also exist a non-steam version of Satazius when I called the guy a hacker.

It's still weird though, because he really doesn't seem like a person who is good at shmups.

>>144744029
>because he really doesn't seem like a person who is good at shmups.
Based on what? You can't draw a sensible conclusion from a steam profile ffs.

>>144743517
There also is a guy called Stink Jandals now, who apparently has like 21 million on normal and also beat my hard mode score of 5.2 million.

>>144744191
>You can't draw a sensible conclusion from a steam profile ffs.
The guy has like over 600 games on steam, played for over 250 hours in the last two weeks, and only plays shitty RPGs.

>>144744467
>skyrim
>RPG

>>144744467
Just fucking add him and ask him direct if you really want to know.

>>144744670
Naw he plays JRPGs, MMOs, and Witcher shit.

>>144744753
>hey dude, did you cheat?
>no, I didn't cheat
Great idea Sherlock!

>>144744882
>>hey dude, did you cheat?
>>no, I didn't cheat
This is how social interaction plays out in Krauts head, no wonder you're such a winner.

>>144745203
do you add people you suspect of cheating on steam for social interaction?

>>144745203
If you really think you can make friends on steam you must be even more socially retarded than I am.

shut up and tell me how to acquire more talent
it's urgent

>>144745908
become jap

>>144745908
you have to suck it out of basketball players

>>144738637
none, he might still place top 3 in some non-competitive categories.

OFC he cared, he and HS were rivals for PCB pushing the game, HS won the rivalry by taking every single record (many of which still stand today),callit whatever you want, he probably spent much more time than ISO, but over 1000 is still a good amount for a "arcade superplayer" to put on a "worthless pc game" and and in the end ISO was blown teh fuck away (and on Lunatic which is the main thing, blown away by dozen players)

of course touhou isn't as competitive as the arcade scene at large, but individual games are still much more competitive than most arcade shmups and attract many more superplayers, because they're popular/better games. but you trash in this thread just see what you want to see instead of accepting reality, pathetic

Dame K.K. also pushed shoot the bullet early in its lifespan, did a really fucking good job at the time btw

>>144745404
Well i'l talk to any cunt in any circumstance so sure.

>>144745513
I've made legit friends on the internet. Technology is just a tool how will you use it depends ultimately on you.

>>144745908
By playing SDOJ

c ex is underpowered

maria a shit

Mecha Ritz on the 10th apparently

>tfw injured tendons continue being injured
Well shmups are a real sport now with injuries like this!

>>144746737
>HS won the rivalry by taking every single record
After ISO stopped playing to compete in arcades. Meanwhile "HS" has how many high scores in other games?

>but individual games are still much more competitive than most arcade shmups
If by "most arcade shmups" you mean all unsuccessful games no one liked or played, then sure, Touhou is more popular. But even the biggest Touhou game, seemingly PCB or IN, is nothing compared to the big arcade shmups.

Touhou games are not even popular. Only the hentai is. Most don't even know there are games.

>>144752150
Is it still your thumb? How hard did you finger the stick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKe4bnhWF2E

Gimme other games with weird music.

>>144756246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoyCAe9opbk

>>144753497
Early on it was very similar to carpal tunnel syndrome, but later on the feeling in the thumb stopped and appeared in the pinky instead, which is impossible if it's CTS as the nerves pass through another tunnel.

Currently I'm just feeling general weakness of the left arm (gets tired quickly from holding its own weight) and the tendons/muscles along my forearm tense up rather uncomfortably when I'm using my fingers to play games, and pain appears later, so I don't do that.

I did handle the stick pretty roughly that's for sure.

I could use the Sanwa arcade buttons in place of Cherry switches as they are much lighter and won't strain my arm as much, but I can't see that as a good idea right now regardless.

>>144756246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAotPZEAUxo
Be careful what you wish for

>>144757957
That's correct carpal tunnel only affects the thumb to half of the 4th finger and not the pinky, do you rest on your elbows particularly on hard surfaces? The symptoms you describe can sometimes be elbow compression. Probably just fatigue though so try some rest some light warm up/stretching before and after play and some destressing for example from years of bmx my shoulders got tight as shit so I would use a rolling pin and essentially beat them to simulate a hard massage which worked wonders.

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>>144758937
>I would use a rolling pin and essentially beat them to simulate a hard massage which worked wonders.
Brutal.

>>144758937
Generally my forearms are on the armrests, close to the elbow but not quite with the elbow making direct contact. The armrests are cushioned. It does feel like plain fatigue right now, but there are some unexpected cramps at the base of the thumb reappearing during activity, the back of the hand can go numb as well in a certain spot where there's a lump.

ya'll some beta ass bitches
i've played 1000000000 hours of games and my hands arms and wrists are fine
fuck's wrong with you fools

>>144760765
post your scores

stg never die

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Has anyone here ever tried out Zenzizenzic?

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>>144770231
What an awesome game.

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>>144772374
I've been meaning to give it a real shot sometime. I played Gunbird 2 once in an arcade.

Not sure how well it (Gunbird 1) emulates though, hasn't it been mentioned that Psikyo shmups have input lag on shmupmame?

>>144772732
Not like it matters, just do your scripted voodoo dances slightly earlier

>>144772732
It emulates well on Shmupmame 2.2 and I haven't noticed any input lag on it.

I really would love to do an R-Type no force pod run. theoretically it should be possible.

>>144773404
Make sure to stream your attempts.

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>tfw constantly gameovering on stage 2 after 4563745647 hours of practice

>>144773767
What gemu

>>144775974
2hu

>>144776036
Gayyy

>>144776137
Don't bully the 2hus

>>144776036
lol just lol

>>144773767
>tfw you know you're ready to beat the game but you can never get a good start

>>144776368
>tfw u get all the way to the last boss and die and can't get there again

>>144776550
even if you would have cleared it would be a fluke

you ain't gud until you fill up your score board with scores that are 1% away from each other

that's real skill, not luck

>>144776550
>tfw you get all the way to the true last boss but you have no lives

>tfw no matter how long you practice, you will never get that 2-all or no-miss

>>144773767
the Gus experience

>>144776036
which 2hu are you trying to clear?

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Well I sure didnt expect that.
T-thanks game.

>>144740074
Touhou score attack is too competitive that all good players moved on quickly after reached their goals. They knew their scores will be replaced in days by other autism players.

>>144744252
This guy messed up CCWI leaderboards too. Back when the game still new it always cleaned up from obvious cheaters, but now it seems abandoned, moreover after BB left Degica.

>>144783095
その精液の鬼は誰?

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>>144788637
It's Windia!

>>144787462
It's ridiculous how little moderation there is on steam. I mean what are these report buttons even there for? Hackers can do whatever they want.

The DOJ ep of stgw has the best commentary of any epsisode Ive seen

I hate that I didn't start playing shmups earlier. I failed you, Thunder Force IV.
It was my first shmup back then, and I should have kept playing the genre afterwards, but it was so difficult.

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Buuump

>played Dimahoo
>got my ass handed to me by stage 5 boss
>literally cant play stage 6 because there are too many lightning fast bullets being spawned by enemies that I can't even destroy in time
>use 3 continues just trying to get through that stage and quit
why do I even bother with this shitty genre

>>144751046
source?

>>144796508
Never mind saw it on Greenlight page. Good news.