/ps2g/ - PlanetSide 2 general

>>144563757
Something you need to consider about PS1 conts is that the devs only needed to worry about terrain since all the bases were copy pasta.
In PS2, their design philosophy means there are a shit ton of bases they need to design, each of them individual, barring facilities (and even then there are differences between individual facilities).
It's a lot more work then a PS1 cont would take

First for the Crown belongs to the TR

>>144569612
>not first
TR confirmed for megacucks

Which faction on Emerald is actually decent at the game? Emerald TR are as trash as Connery NC. I might just make a VS since they seem to be perpetually underpopped there now.

>Install game after 2 year hiatus
>Projectile speed is still slow compared to other FPS
>Vanguard still negates damage instead of mitigating it
>Orion still haven't been fixed
>walls can't snap with each other leaving holes that Infiltrators can exploit
>Biolabs still exist
>Cheaters that I had issues with are still around
>Still no sanctuaries and/or working warpgates
>Uninstall for another two years

Gatekeeper was nice to screw around with.

>>144571643

Vanguard Shield*

>>144571643
> TR
lol

>>144571643
t. sub 1 ivi kdr shiTR

>>144571643
>Orion still haven't been fixed
But that's wrong

>>144571643

Let's take this step by step

>>Projectile speed is still slow compared to other FPS
It's a design choice, and doesn't really cause any problems, so it doesn't need to be changed
>>Vanguard still negates damage instead of mitigating it
Boo fucking hoo, cry me a river. Go cry to Wrel, I'm sure prowler buffs will be live in a week.
>>Orion still haven't been fixed
Are you actually retarded?
>>walls can't snap with each other leaving holes that Infiltrators can exploit
Construction as a whole is shit desu
>>Biolabs still exist
Cry me a river.
>>Cheaters that I had issues with are still around
valid complaint
>>Still no sanctuaries and/or working warpgates
valid complain

tldr you're a faggot

>>144569610
>In PS2, their design philosophy means there are a shit ton of bases they need to design, each of them individual
>implying they don't just plop down walls and shit almost at random, and then push it to live regardless of how the base plays out
Have you seen the new Indar bases? Are we even playing the same game?

Literally the only good thing about the construction patch was the removal of Broken Arch
prove me wrong

>>144572360
Biolabs are objectively shit though. The whole infantry gameplay meta is measured by how badly you can exploit the shitty netcode. Which is why you see so many brazilians inside biolabs.

>>144573260
>Biolabs are objectively shit though.
>The whole infantry gameplay meta is measured by how badly you can exploit the shitty netcode.
t. shitter

I haven't been here in a while, do we still do memes?

>>144573851
no memes
only wrel now

>>144573851
lol

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>>144574230
>no memes

>>144574316
do we still respond with 'aim better' to most posts? that was one of my favorites

>>144574612
only when appropriate
for example, in this case it wasn't appropriate
but "lol" would have been

Vanguard is a HA
Magrider is a LA
Prowler is an infiltrator with a semi auto and no cloak or EMP

>>144575732
>>144575732
>Vanguard is an HA with a battle rifle
>Magrider is an LA with a shotty
>Prowler is an infiltrator with a semi auto and no cloak or EMP

>>144573529
>Look mom, I'm defending my easymode farm that can't be taken without 75% overpop
>I'm so MLG when I camp the landing pads

>>144576021
>>can't be taken without 75% overpop
completely false
>>I'm so MLG when I camp the landing pads
>implying pads are the best part of a biofarm
spoken like a true shitter

>>144574612
The true meaning of aim better has been corrupted by faggotry.

>>144576246
>implying pads are the best part of a biofarm
They are the only ones that actually happen because 90% of the time the attackers can't get in

This game would be better without biolabs

>>144575732
>>144576019
vanguard is a battle rifle HA
magrider is an NS-11 medic
prowler is a medic with one rifle per hand that can choose to stand still and get an extra 1.5 rifles

>>144576609
>because 90% of the time the attackers can't get in
>what is teleporters
you're a fucking shitter, just stop posting and neck yourself

>>144576795
And you know how well standing still works in PS2. Tanks are no exception.

>>144576967
yes yes
I agree, I buf 4 u
powlers now has 270% DPS without having to stand still
but it's balanced, it just appeals to certain playstyles
plis like and subscribe

t. banana man

>>144576957
Careful with the edge, Coldsteel.

Teleporters are even more easily camped.

>>144576957
>implying teleporters don't get camped too

>>144576579
pretty sure it stopped being valid when redditors started repeating it. "shitter" is also repeated ad infinitum

>>144577302
Maybe they don't on ameribad servers.

>>144577302
>>144577289
>Teleporters are even more easily camped.
that's irrelevant though

>>144577521
t. teleporter camper

>>144577723
t. lost an argument and is reassuring to baseless name-calling

>>144577973
>reassuring
resorting
fucking phone meme keyboard

>>144577973
>>because 90% of the time the attackers can't get in
>b-but teleporters
>>those are camped too
>so?
hurr

>>144577973
t. "neck yourself shitter"

>>144578167
sometimes I don't understand phone autocorrects. I replied to some guy talking about Koch Industries, and for some reason it switched to Kosher Industries. eventually i'm just gonna switch it off.

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>>144578834
>Kosher Industries

>if I leave the framelock at default 60, I'm GPU bound and drop frames the second a fight starts
>if I edit the framelock to 90, I'm CPU bound and I still drop frames when the fight starts, but it doesn't amtter because it's still +60 frames

who can explain this wizardry to me

>>144581731
SOE quality coding

i want infantryside to stop trying to dictate where the game direction goes

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>tfw playing this game because there is no competing game on the market
>arma isn't very unified, lots of players play custom missions (altis life is super popular for whatever reason. lacks actual sci-fi.
>gaea command was poorly recieved and is dead
>heroes and generals has simple combat but the community is awful and it doesn't have the same open world feel

kill me

>>144586551
And that's why PS2 will never die
It will always be played because it's the best MMOFPS on the market
Because the market for MMOFPS's is fucking nonexistant

>>144589963
They're pushing me to the quitting for good point though. There are plenty of bad companies, but DBG deserves to go fucking bankrupt.

>>144571643

t. 5.0 kdr, 0.5 ivi kdr proud warrior of the Terran republic

>>144596284
ivi is that rule that says you can't use certain guns right

so it's not all that legitimate right

>>144589963
But nothing prevents people going back to normal FPS. The truth is that the best Planetside has to offer are balanced 48-96 fights. But most fights are not those. Overpopping is the most effective way to win, and while one faction has all its pop spawncamping a base waiting for it to cap, another faction is doing the same somewhere else. Some bases are also impossible to take with 50% pop, like biolabs and towers with A point inside.

>>144597012
The normal FPS market is also bad atm. Rarely do servers go up to 64 players, if that.

>>144596725
>ivi is that rule that says you can't use certain guns right

You can use all the normal guns except for broken cancer like bolt shitting rifles.
It's a great metric to see if someone is actually good at fps games or just camps spawn rooms with ESF and a Prowler

>>144597578
Someone should just make a 96v96 Battlefield clone. No 5v5 esport bullshit, no Fluttyman zerging with 300 DIGlets. Best of both worlds.

>>144597742
But all tryhard fags switched to bolt shitting when 0.75 and adrenoweave got nerfed.

>>144598201
Yes, because they were always shit.

>>144598045
The problem is that it often devolves into campfests, moreso if the maps are intentionally designed to be standoffs. Battlefield 3/4s metro is popular for pubs but the imbalance shows. If it's gonna be 96v96, it needs to have a fairly large map per match (like 2-3 zones in planetside)

>>144598045
>no Fluttyman zerging with 300 DIGlets

>DIG will never be alive again

JDIMS. Farming ELME is just not the same, they pull too many MAXes and all that regular TR cancer shit

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NC and VS are a bunch of gay niggers who have teamed up against TR.

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>>144598440
>>144598045
>2142 with frostbite destruction will never happen
>titans will never level towns as they move across the map
>you will never play titan mode again ever

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>>144598819
FUCK YOU EA

and fuck activision for inspiring them to make a rehashed game every couple years.

D

I

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Daily average kills (Sep 16, 2013 - Sep 27th 2015)

VS
80 - Orion VS54 | Kills | Daily Average: 58356.17 (37.9%)
1894 - Betelgeuse 54-A | Kills | Daily Average: 21166.46 (13.7%)
301001 - VS NS-15M | Kills | Daily Average: 17070.02 (11.1%)
7276 - SVA-88 | Kills | Daily Average: 16564.56 (10.8%)
7277 - Flare VE6 | Kills | Daily Average: 13914.56 (9%)
7275 - Pulsar LSW | Kills | Daily Average: 11976.59 (7.8%)
7274 - VX29 Polaris | Kills | Daily Average: 7216.60 (4.7%)
7278 - Ursa | Kills | Daily Average: 6397.89 (4.2%)
802738 - SVA-GG | Kills | Daily Average: 1426.69 (0.9%)
Total average daily kills: 154,089.54

NC
78 - NC6 Gauss SAW | Kills | Daily Average: 49732.00 (37%)
7236 - LA1 Anchor | Kills | Daily Average: 16330.07 (12.2%)
7233 - GD-22S | Kills | Daily Average: 15698.91 (11.7%)
301002 - NC NS-15M | Kills | Daily Average: 14650.45 (11%)
7235 - EM6 | Kills | Daily Average: 13242.80 (9.9%)
7232 - EM1 | Kills | Daily Average: 12742.77 (9.5%)
1879 - NC6A GODSAW | Kills | Daily Average: 7383.43 (5.5%)
7234 - NC6S Gauss SAW S | Kills | Daily Average: 4629.00 (3.4%)
Total average daily kills: 134,409.43

TR
79 - T9 CARV | Kills | Daily Average: 49644.60 (37%)
7254 - MSW-R | Kills | Daily Average: 22362.27 (16.7%)
7256 - TMG-50 | Kills | Daily Average: 14126.75 (10.6%)
301003 - TR NS-15M | Kills | Daily Average: 14031.35
7255 - T16 Rhino | Kills | Daily Average: 13594.58
7257 - T32 Bull | Kills | Daily Average: 6959.54
7253 - T9 CARV-S | Kills | Daily Average: 6821.64
1924 - T9A "Butcher" | Kills | Daily Average: 6188.63
Total average daily kills: 133,729.36

>>144605517
VS still most MLG
now try MAXes and vehicles

>use Butcher for a while
>avg like 3 or 3.5 k/d with it
>switch back to CARV
>wtf I forgot this gun had no recoil
>pull 10 k/d and 51% hsr over an hour
I want to like you Butcher, but you make it so hard for me.

>>144606567
Imagine NC MAXes with pre nerf ZOE. Now that would be balanced, unlike the stupid shield.

>>144607317
The easily controllable recoil makes the CARV feel more accurate than it is. Its cone of fire is still insane. It's not a "hold LMB for chain headshots while moving" gun.

>>144606567
guarantee that it's TR for all the cheesiest kill methods

>>144609492
I'm more interested in seeing the spread.

Do VS maxes even use weapons other than the blueshifts?

>>144609756
Many of them have started using Comets because they are basically Pounders with no drop and even more burst damage.

>>144610176
>basically pounders with no drop
technically they're pre-nerf pounders with no drop

>>144610176
>>144610389

Lol, shiTRs you are getting more and more ridiculous every day

What are the "MLG sooper exclusive club" outfits of memerald?

>>144610804
AC, dasanfall and recursion probably

Who knows how many of them will still be playing after battleeye though

>>144610748
once they fixed the deadzone, the 2hko pounder was the greatest weapon

newfag pls kill self

>>144610804
N, CLAB, NOGF

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Am I free enough?

>>144610804
N

>>144599558
animoo with a runny nose ?

>>144611687
bidet

>>144611108
>newfag

I'm one of the most distinguished and elite players in this game you ugly nigger.

>>144613925
If you're not buzzcutpsycho, you don't matter.

>>144614058
that cuck hasn't mattered since beta(which he is)

>>144614058
Are you by any chance a cuckold?

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show em

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>>144616110
ok

>>144616403
Ex quake
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what does a mathematician call a toilet seat?

>>144616817
A sub 5.0 ivi kdr shitter?

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>>144616971
an ass toroid :3

>>144617048
i dont get it

>>144617161
it's a toroid
but it's an ass toroid because you sit on it
and it's funny because it sounds like asteroid

>>144617326
but what is a toroid

>>144617493
It's kind of like a sphere with a hole in the middle

>>144617493
a donut
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus

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>I'm one of the most distinguished and elite players in this game you ugly nigger.

>>144618803
t. 400 ivi score 0.4 Kpm shiTR

>>144619525
t. time with medkit: 97.3%

>>144620994
It's only 5%

>>144621974
>only 95%

>last post 2 hours and 10 minutes ago
CONSTRUCTION SAVED THE GAME
LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE

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^_^

>>144631485
YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL GIRL >:^B

d

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>people put foregrip and comp on NS-11C

>>144638342
comp is retarded, but grip is valid

>New loading screen
When did they add this?

>>144640459
When somebody with brain problems decided to pay Hey There Folks for bad ideas.

>>144640459
PRAISE WREL

>>144640573
>take the most vocal retard of the community and put him in charge of game design
brilliant desu

>>144640926
he was already doing it for free

>>144641128
except now they pay him for it :^)

>>144568752
planetside is dead

>>144650610
like and subscribe

>>144650610
not as dead as /ps2g/.
We're the dedest we've ever been.

I'm a Vanu medic. For some reason a year ago, I unlocked the Corvus, but it turns out I really love my Thanatos shotgun.

What should I invest my next certs in? I have c4 and revive grenade unlocked.

-A different gun? Equinox burst?
-Upgrade medic molesting spray gun?
-Upgrades for my guns?
-Flashlight for shotgun?
-Lock on missile launcher for HA?
-Vehicle upgrades?
-Kill myself because I'm Vanu?

Help? Tips?

man the worst thing about this general is the fact it has shit for memes because the vast majority of the people posting ITT are old, washed out geezers.

and the rest of them are millennials who would rather whine than make anything

>>144653454
two questions
>are you good
>what do you like doing

>-Kill myself because I'm Vanu?
always a good idea

>current year
>still no ushanka in the TR hat arsenal
tfw even underpowered in head-wear


I just want something that isn't overly grimdark, but fits the TR aesthetic.

>>144655265
>are you good
bretty gud
always a positive k/d

>what do you like doing
I tend to go for a support role, because I like to fill the squad's needs. I default to medic, but go engineer with my SHINY NEW ANTI-VEHICLE TURRET to counter armor pushes.
I like to deploy vehicles as well. Aircraft is 2squishy4me

How do i use a valky as TR?
hovering the frontline gets me rekt by AP maggies and vangs

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>>144650610

>>144654116
Eat shit kid.

>>144656057
>always a positive k/d
>vanu medic

DIGlet medic ball plankton detected

>>144656507
gitty guddy

>>144656507
You've two real options.

1) you hover at ceiling height with a squad of drifter c4 buddies, and shit on tank columns

2) you take the meme approach. 2 striker heavies on one side, two engineers on the other. The amount of manpower required is high for the level of effect you have. It can get pretty boring for the repairmen too.

In general, valks are bad. Poor mans liberator in any combat form, and a poor mans gal in transport. It has zero real benefits over either, assuming you can spare the nanites.

>>144656057
>bretty gud
>always a positive k/d
lol

>>144657171
>It can get pretty boring for the repairmen
Not if they have Archers. Dunking on MAX scrubs is fun.

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>why is this thread dead
>a /vg/ thread
>which is full of passive aggressive closet mentality tryhards
>on cuckchan

gee i cant imagine in the slightest why your thread is dead :^)

So i never tried a smg
but i got the barrage with extended mag and it's fucking gunfu tier for LA, why would i want an SMG?

>>144660576
Because it can be used on the class with that has access to sanctioned ESP, EMP grenades, and can go invisible.

>>144661381
you mean the shitters class?

>>144661950
That's the one.

>>144610976
dasautism

>>144661381
>radar is esp

every time i see this, i'm reminded of how frequently people just run past enemy radars/darts and never destroy them.

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>been using claymore for a while now
>still no salty /tell

Have people forgotten they can whisper ?

>>144667907
I've gotten a few "[yell] [turboshitter]: claymores are bullshit"

No hate-tells though. It's disappointing. Memeing with flashes is much better.

>you get 5 XP per spawn at your sunderer
>that means one (1) cert point every fifty (50) spawns
>buying one (1) gun for one (1) class on one (1) character requires me to spawn in
>fifty
>thousand
>(50000)
>players
There aren't even 50k people playing this game per month, much less assaulting this bumfuck base
How is this reasonable?

>>144669730
It's called not relying on sunderers for certs. You place the sunderer so the mans keep spawning, so you keep the fight going.

Then you either farm bads at this fight, or you farm regen / revive ribbons as medic. That is how you get certs. Not sunderer spawns. Sunderers enable the cert farm, they are not themselves the cert farm.

>>144667907
It's weird because the playerbase has only gotten more autistic and hostile. All of the meme weapons I use have garnered 0 tells.

>>144670023
That's just it, though. Why should I bother even using a Sunderer at all if its supposed passive cert """""""""gain""""""""" is infinitesimally small?

Would you tell an aspiring millionaire to pick up a penny every now and then?

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>>144670348
are you just pulling sunderers and then sitting in them

are you really this retarded

>>144670348
You use it because you enable the farms. You want a good farm? You set it up. Do not expect bads to do this. You think the average shitter is going to put a sunderer on the A point of a tech plant? of course not. You need to be the one to do things like this.

Also, if you get a well placed shield sunderer, there's nothing stopping you from using it as a two man farming wagon. Kobalts are extremely good. The cert gain isn't as small as you make out either - there are ribbons associated.

Basically, don't think of it as a sole source of certs. It's supplementary to farming, and allows you to keep farming good farms, for longer.

>>144671072
No, I'm pulling them and then leaving them while I actually play the game.

But I'm starting to wonder why I'm even bothering to do that. Looking at the math, deploying a Sunderer is absolutely pointless in terms of cert gain. There's virtually no benefit. Wasting several minutes pulling, positioning, and deploying a Sunderer just so I'm 0.01% closer to unlocking something is wasted time, time that could be used spawning at someone else's Sunderer.

A single kill, which takes mere seconds to achieve, gets me XP that ten minutes of passive Sunderer gameplay.

>>144671481
>why should i do team things in this team game

gee idunno anon

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has this always happened?

>>144671481
Stop parking your bus like a shitter then.

>>144671294
You're the third person to randomly assume I don't understand that Sunderers are "meant" for passive cert farming. How about actually reading the post?

The 5-10 minutes you spend actually getting the Sunderer to your obtuse location will net you MAYBE 20 certs at most, assuming this is a 96+v96+ drawn out battle that lasts over half an hour where you have an optimal deploy. I doubt your passive cert gain would get even halfway to double digits in anything smaller.

Meanwhile, how many kills do you get per minute? Are you capable of getting 20 kills in the 10 minutes it takes to set up a Sunderer? Because if you can, Sundies become a 100% waste of time.

>>144672160
>logistics and strategy are a waste of time in a team based game
Good post, why do you even play this game?

>>144671481
>A single kill, which takes mere seconds to achieve, gets me XP that ten minutes of passive Sunderer gameplay.

>>144672953
Counting the time it takes to pull, position, and deploy a sunderer, that statement is 100% true.
And if one kill isn't enough, then 2-3 seal the deal.

>>144672160
If you're pulling sunderers solely for the cert gain and find that tiresome, then maybe you should go back to Battlefield? What a moron lol

>>144673728
Fourth person to randomly, wrongly assume that anyone in this reply chain is pulling Sunderers solely for the cert farm.

>>144657171
>1) you hover at ceiling height with a squad of drifter c4 buddies, and shit on tank columns
get 4 engineers with maxed tank mines in the rumble seats and rain destruction on a vehicle column

>>144670316
Some boltshitter once told I was bad at the game for dominating them with ravens because "it's for cars fucking noob"

>>144673169
>Counting the time it takes to pull, position, and deploy a sunderer, that statement is 100% true.
it's really not

Shitty bus drivers sure are salty.

>>144674876
Are you genuinely implying that it takes longer to get three kills than it does to move and deploy a Sunderer and get 150 spawns?

Fuck this shitty game. Hitreg is worse than ever before. Light assaults tank more bullets than a prenerf resist heavy. Also cloaker faggots stay invisible even if they shoot me in the face. The game doesn't bother rendering them unless they stay uncloaked for like 5 seconds. So fucking glad I cancelled my membership.

>>144672062
There's been a bug with the falling animation while holding a... either knife or medkit, I can't remember, that causes a 6-inch polygon to spike out of one of your hands. I think it was fixed recently, but had been around since OMFG pt 2. These sorts of things seem to crop up any time anyone does anything to animations.

>>144675041
no

>>144675174
b-but construction saved the game!!!!
like and subscrube

>>144676123
P R A I S E
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>>144676123
le upboated

>>144676123
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144676123
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

>>144676123
But it did. Kinda.
New devs and shit.

i made an account just to post this
cant we have a game where everybody doesnt cry op when they get killed;
PLANETSIDE 2 IS BALANCED

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The warcrime loading screen artist's last name is Busby


Ahahahahahaha

>>144676894
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>144677370
Gandalf Bubsy

I wonder what Fagen's real name is.

Is it just me or does no one on TR know wtf the Q button does?

>>144676123
does anyone besides infantryside complain about construction?
why is it so localized to infantryside only?

because the bases are too far away to run to without getting picked off on the way?
because there's no spawn room to shoot from?
because an infantry-exclusive fairy's threat range is too limited?
because now for the first time ever since the beginning of the game, they were finally killed by a xiphos turret?

>>144681251
Because no fucking body try to mass attack a enemy hive when it pop up.

And when they decide to do so after capturing a 96+ 3-way crossfire, they end up having to hide behind the place where the sunder that they spawned upon is hiding, and have to cross a no man's land to destroy a heavily fortified base.

>>144679625
It's Gaylord McBadhats

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dööd

>>144686026
post more ass pls

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>>144686124

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>>144686654

>>144681251
It's probably localized to infantryside because infantry combat makes up a good portion of the gameplay.

Wait this game is alive?

>>144686654
DELET THIS

>>144682038
>Because no fucking body try to mass attack a enemy hive when it pop up.
Because there's literally no point in attacking a Hive. They do not matter. They're an irrelevant gameplay mechanic.

If anything, I'm glad when I see enemy Hives pop up. It means there's an entire squad or more dedicated to jerking off in a corner for literally no reason, away from actual objectives and win conditions. And I know that they'll keep their circlejerk going for well over an hour, since even a 100% Efficiency Hive takes forty whole minutes to generate a single VP.

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>>144689440
>Planetside 2
>Win

>>144690020
Exactly. Imagine doing something so pointless that it's actually a joke in a game as retarded as Planetside. That's construction.

Haven't played in a year since they released those new flying vehicles. Construction looks cool as fuck. Do people actually use it?

How has it improved the game?

>>144689440
Yeah, let's capture shit and ignore the fucking hives.

That big fucking good zerg you have here is totally not going to be blocked by an absurd amount of defenses.

Defenses that you cannot bombard because lolshield, cannot damage enough because lolrepair, farm your ass as you try to find a fucking way around those ramparts blocking the way, and god help you if they have three of those garage fortification, one being reserved to the hive itself.

It's just like that argument about sunderer xp : it's a nice side bonus.

>>144691272
you only need 2 squads full of shitters, make them pull 8-10 sundys with repair/ammo dispensers and stock basilisk
watch bases melt.

>>144691272
Unless you've managed to magically build your christmas wonderland defenses across all of your territory (you haven't), there's not a problem at all.
When I'm leading a platoon and I notice someone wasted half an hour or sometimes over an hour building a cute FOB, you know what I do? I tell my squad to redeploy and move to any other lattice.
Congrats, you just pulled probably dozens of your buttbuddies off an actual important territory to put together your base in anticipation for an amazing push, and no one's going to feed you. Meanwhile, I'm across the map cutting off your base from the rear and getting bonus VP for warpgating you yet again.

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>>144692018

>>144692018
I would've given you the point.

If the whole "you must capture an hex before capturing the next" didn't exist.

Also fuck those bases that hide sundays in the mountain, and use the shield nodes to cover 98% of the fucking base.

>>144690884
People used it for the first few days.

Now bases either become so huge and filled with fuck-off levels of auto-turrets that they're totally ignored, and the defenders get bored and redeploy elsewhere, or they're killed without struggle in their infancy.

Once a base is built, the garrison usually leaves because no-one attacks, and then it's just a matter of waiting until an adequately sized tank zerg shows up to knock it over.

It's extremely underwhelming. There really isn't much of an incentive to attack the bases, as either it's a boring ghost-cap of sorts, or you get farmed to shit. The sheer abundance of cores required to activate the bases leads them to not being particularly important individually either, in terms of victory points. There are just too many bases running concurrently, and the ones that are fortified have such negligible impact on the victory point tally, that it's very easy to ignore them. Most of my fun in it has come from bullying ANT's (the new construction vehicle).

Otherwise, the Indar revamp was okay. Some bases got fucked up, some got changed and are okay, and most importantly, ones like abandoned NS and broken arch got removed.

>>144693213
So once a base is built it's self-sufficient and stays up until it gets zerged?

So the battlefield is peppered with bases everywhere? Surely they're not useless if they get placed in certain places?

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>>144694190
Modules need cortonium to work, shields, repair and AI modules. Cortonium needs to be gathered by players and then dropped back off at a silo. In theory a base can run out of resources, but either the base has a cortonium spawn inside of it or the attackers can't be assed to kill the ant making runs.

And they're useless in the sense that just like with most things in this game, the playerbase is more then happy to go "eh, effort" and fuck off to an empty base.


Cause thats why I play a shooter game.

>>144694885

I think it's more that the bases have ill defined objectives. Victory points are both contrived and obtuse in their implementation.

Semi-casuals don't know what the hell is going on with construction and don't care. Warpgating a faction is easier to understand as an objective and more rewarding of a goal. There's little obvious reasons to go chasing after some kids building sand castles in the corner.

>>144694885
So all buildings decay unless there's cortonium? Couldn't you just build 10 walls and 20 turrets at a particular spot and they'd stay there?

>>144696002
Building don't decay, but modules need that sweet cortium to work.

Once the silo run out of juice, it become a lifeless corpse.

>>144696423
I thought over a very long period of time untouched constructions eventually decay and destroy themselves.

coming up on abandoned bases I usually find everything in really ill repair and about to destroy itself.

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>We own indar comm, skydock, and indar ex
>lets all leave Indar during an alert and ghost cap hossin!

Fucking Connery NC man

>>144681251
i think the hive system is retarded. its never worth it for either side unless you are balls deep into enemy territory.

i have zero incentive to run into a bunch of xiphos turrets, and i don't want to have to gather half a platoon to mount a vehicle offensive for your 70% efficiency generator.

there is no base "design" its just spam of all your parts.

>>144699270
>i have zero incentive to run into a bunch of xiphos turrets
It's an alert and the enemy team is getting 2 VPs from having the most hives
The hive is set up in a strategically important location

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>population is 4x smaller from 2014

What did he mean by this?
And construction didn't seem to bring any players back. Ded?

>>144700598
>What did he mean by this?
Try not speaking like a retard, we're not on /v/ you fag

I'm a pretty crappy player and normally play support, Medic and Engineer, and was thinking of a new weapon to support my spray-and-pray lifestyle.

I was thinking of a TR PDW-16 Hailstorm, with MH2 Reflex Sight (x2) and forward grip. Is this a good option?

If I pay the $8 for it or whatever with Daybreak-bux, I can use it all all my guys it's available to right? I don't have to buy it separate for Medic, Engineer, Light Inf, etc?

>>144701303
>TR PDW-16 Hailstorm
No
>If I pay the $8 for it or whatever with Daybreak-bux, I can use it all all my guys it's available to right? I don't have to buy it separate for Medic, Engineer, Light Inf, etc?
If you buy a multiclass weapon with anything (certs or dbc), you get it on all classes. Buying with dbc means you get it on other characters you make as well.

>>144701043
What did you mean by this?

>>144701467
>>TR PDW-16 Hailstorm
>No
Not a good gun then?

I currently have an LC3 Jaguar for my Light and Engineer, and guess it works Ok, I just normally find myself in short range surprise situation gunfight or just using cover fire.

I figured one gun for all my non-heavy makes the learning curve a bit simpler. Familiarity and all that.

>>144702601
It's not great.
Honestly, just stick with the starter weapons. They're really damn good. Focus on stuff like suit upgrades and tool upgrades.

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Did they change the ability to spot mines? I used to be able to spot em easily but last time I played, which was a few days ago, I wouldnt be able to spot them and they only showed up on EoD3 when I was almost right on top of them, which I thought they also fixed a while back.

>>144702601
Faction-specific SMGs, and in particular the second-gen ones (Hailstorm included), are pretty much strictly hipfire weapons - their hip COF is really tight, and they don't suffer any bloom penalty for hipfire like every other weapon type. Putting a sight and foregrip on a hailstorm would be retarded, you want an advanced laser and probably nothing else.

That said, the Hailstorm (or more often, Failstorm) is pretty universally considered mediocre on account of its shitty DPS. It's usable, but not fantastic.

It's actually pretty good on a HA though, since your overshield makes up for the shitty DPS. That was the only way I could find the bother to auraxium it, anyway.

>>144702279
What did he mean by this?

Should i even bother with the NS-AM7, or should i let the infilthrators take care of shit ?

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and I thought NC were retarded

>>144707514
>TR's going to have the best anti MAX weapon in the game on every light assault
fair and balance :)))
BLESU U WREL BLYET

>>144706797
The Archer? It's only useful for removing Raven MAXes, and even then only if they don't hide by the third or fourth shot.

>>144686654
Praise Wrel, the savior of TR, the giver of buffs, the messiah of balance and fair play

>>144701303
Jesus wept no.

Your medic's standard cycler is fine, assault rifles are great, alwways use them on the medic, they've got better effective range than any smg and can still work up close, the TRV variant is better for spraying, but the standard is better for ADS at midrange, more important for the medic than a gun are revive grenades, which are beautiful with a bandolier.

For engie you should invest in mines, I also like running anything i can slap an underbarrel grenade launcher on, since it was nerfed it can only one hit kill on a direct hit, but engie can keep hisself supplied with ammo for it, so it's great for popping guys who like to hop in and out of the same piece of cover, like an energy shield, a direct hit will kill them outright, as opposed to merely wounding them and prompting a retreat behind the shield.

Have you upgraded your favoured utilities and your med and repair tools?

These are the game changers, I've actually been returning to my default weapons as a TR player to try them out with a more practiced hand.

I have been surprised how many useful features I overlooked that I appreciate better now in hindsight.

>>144712726
>I've actually been returning to my default weapons as a TR player to try them out with a more practiced hand.

Because TR starters, especially T1 are one of the best guns in the game.
T1 is literally the best all rounder.

>liberators farming helpless infantry around launch
>prenerf mags around launch
>HE prowlers around launch
>prenerf rocket pods
>post-GU03 Prowler DPS
>Vanguard I-Win button
>1hko Saron/Enforcer
>prenerf Harassers
>the second Libpocalypse
>prenerf PPAs
>the HE/HEAT/AP rebalance that made all HEAT guns almost useless
>1hko Viper
>prenerf Banshee
>current Airhammer
>wraith flashes
>battle gals
>the Valkyrie's utter uselessness
>almost every other vehicle balance issue I can't think of at the moment
>all these things caused by one dev
>SOE lays off this dev during the DBG thing
>DBG recently rehired this dev
why

>>144707514
>VS can't even max crash right

>>144713298
>DBG recently rehired this dev
what?

>>144713298
>>DBG recently rehired this dev
Literally who?

>>144707514
Oh wow, i was there at that max crash and it was quite hilarious from the opposite perspective. Most that got inside looked like they had no idea where to go.

>>144713883
>looked like

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>>144713754
>>144713818
Kevmo, the old vehicle balance guy.

https://www.twitch tv/planetside2/v/70343640?t=37m20s

Spam filter hates my link.

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>>144700598
>And construction didn't seem to bring any players back.
A novelty patch doesn't keep old players from staying or coming back for long. I mean i was sort of interested in the construction at first but i soon got bored since there is little incentive for people to attack a defended base and so defenders just idle in their bases watching the cordium refining counter tick by. If defending bases and destroying them gave more xp then i think people would participate in it a little bit more, but as it stands now, shooting walls and turrets is pretty fucking boring.

Also the frequent crashing is making me consider giving the game a break too desu.

>>144713883
it went like this:

- white max leads idiots into a funnel leading directly to prowler/mosquito town
- nonretards take the teleporter which actually takes you to the point

>>144714410
cool

can we re-fire Xander now?

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>>144611327
needs some Liberation™ Brand Cola-Drink™ with a Nanite Systems™ Meal Deal my familia

>>144713298
>>wraith flashes
he's got my vote, you battlefield player

>>144717595
Wyvern valkyries are pretty good 1v1 against ESF's and can challenge poor to average skilled lib crews.

What the valk needs most right now is more resistance to daltons. In fact, i dont really see why the sky-vanguard has been allowed to be so strong for so long against literally everything in the game...

>>144718294
sorry this was meant for >>144713298
>the Valkyrie's utter uselessness

>>144718294
Because plebbitors parrot how "high skill" AA dalton is. They say the same about CQC bolting too.

>>144718294
squad logistics as passive is also needed

Should I try to lead a squad to get those first time medals and level up for cheap cert gain or is it not worth it ?

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>tfw the game decides you're having too much fun

>>144710123
>the best anti MAX weapon in the game
It's really not.
That being said, it's about as good as the Decimator if all rocklets hit, and it has absolutely no tradeoff. LAs (already very powerful) get a new toy for free. Praise Wrel. Like and subscribe.

>>144713298
>helpless infantry
HA has always started with a rocket and you get one free burster arm

>>144715208
Prowler Town: population 48-96 retards

>>144724858
ahahahahahahahaha

WREL SAVE US

>>144728740
*gives SPA nerf*

saved u (:

t. Wrel

>>144729164
subscribe'd

>>144729164
Thank you Wrel! Can you also pls buff TR and nerf NC/VS?

>>144731560
off course, it's planned 4 the next patch
pls lik subscrtibe adn tell ur freinds about the channel

>cripplechan ps2g
>the sperg mong kid of /b/ and leddit
lel

>>144731868
Thank you Wrel, I'm gonna tell my my wife's boyfriend and her son about your channel!

is a bulldog harasser a fun meme?

t. certs to spend, no clue what to spend them on, who already owns all other harasser weapons, excluding ranger

>>144609492
>guarantee that it's TR for all the cheesiest kill methods
I get most of my kills with claymores or by mana-turret.

>>144710326
It's not useful as a deterrent ?

>>144739030
nopes

>>144739030
3HKO
2HKO if you get one headshot

the problem is it's only usable at midrange. Too close and the MAX will duck behind cover or kill you, too far and he'll be harder to reliably hit three times in a row.

>>144738956
it's fun, but less effective than a fury
it's also much better than people think it is
t. ~20k harasser kills

>>144739183
>>144741665
Well shit, i wanted to be a good support while also taking some load off the heavy assaults.

>>144743462
play medic instead

>good guns
>can carry two bricks of C4
>lack of crutchkits doesn't matter because you have regenerating health
>can revive tards after you clear a room

>>144743821
>he doesn't use the shield bubble
shitters lol

>>144744321
As a distinguished patron of high explosive ordinance, I know better than to use the "click here for certs" equipment.

>>144744501
lol

>>144743821
>good guns
I'm shit at infantry, or the netcode is a fucking crime.
>can carry two bricks of C4
I'll let the LA use them.
>crutchkits
I never use them anyway, there are enough medics around to take care of me.
>can revive tards after you clear a room
Too many medics everytime i switched, always end up healing the wrong guy because that tool act retarded, and can't res people because others are taking care of them already.

As an engineer, i know i'll be useful to MAXes, those that need ammo, armor columns, but i want to also cockblock the enemy with something more than tank mines.

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>>144744501
>>144744321
>>144743821
C4 Fairy a best

>Cute Crabrider
>Would be a real shame if some c4 got stuck to it
>Oh you think your front line is moving up on us? Let me check that flank for you.
>Is dat nigguh boltshitting my squad? Say no more senpai!
>Pussy ass max taking potshots at us? I see one asshole, but he will see 4.

>tked
>tked
>friendly suicidally walks in front out into no-mans land, getting both of you killed
>tked
>killed by warping wizard
>tked
why

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>you will never be the top honker

>>144746982
you didn't aim better

>>144746982
We don't like your camo.

>>144718294
>What the valk needs most right now is more resistance to daltons.
No, I don't think anyone looking at the Valkyrie has said
>This aircraft would be 10/10 aoty, if ONLY it resisted Daltons
Its problem is that inherent game mechanics invalidate its supposed niche, but this isn't weighed at all when they were deciding if it's supposed to be CAS or a surgical transport.

It needs a total rework.

>>144679625
who's the chick of the pic?

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>>144748494
>It needs a total rework.
Already planned.

>>144754075
thanks wrel

>>144753961
she's ~80 years old

>>144754467
i just want the pics senpai

>>144754690
dunno, but here's some more
http://verzameloord.blogspot.ch/p/gandalf-tijdschrift.html

>>144755201
thanks m8

>>144720082
anyone ?

>>144756659
herding cats is more trouble than its worth

>>144756659
only if you keep your squad marker, beacon and sundy on The Crown 24/7.

>>144741665
>3HKO
>2HKO if you get one headshot
It always seems to take me 1 headshot and 2 bodyshots. I think it's because it has a shitty 1.5x headshot multiplier.

God damn. Why is this general and game so dead? I remember it was one of the fastest on /vg/, fresh memes everywhere.

>>144764424
because you touch yourself at night

>>144764424
Everyone who actually plays the game moved to another chan.
All that's left in this thread are shitposters who haven't touched Planetside in years.

>>144765018
>Everyone who actually plays the game moved to another chan.
fuck off, the thread on cripplechan is literally /b/tards with leddit opinions

>>144765018
this

go to wrel's most recent video and go to 3:08.

https://youtu.be/w5A2fo59EAA?t=188

you'll see other chan's outfit. im gonna join too.

>>144765495
Why so aggressive? Their threads hit bump limit several times a day, they have one of the most active outfits on Emerald, and every poster there actually plays the game.

Meanwhile, can you link evidence that shows this thread has ANY actual players? An outfit or at least a squad, or even a screenshot of more than two /ps2g/ posters playing together?

>>144766113
anons here dont actually play the game.

>>144766295
Literally the first post in the reply chain.

>>144765018
>>144764424
>>144766113

I think I got tonsillitis from an exposure to air conditioning so I can neither play nor shitpost effectively.
I promise you that I will get ps2g going when I stop feeling like shit.

>>144754075
is this official?

>>144766637
VS Emerald, right? I'm in.

>>144765816
>you'll see other chan's outfit. im gonna join too.

Is this an attempt to lure players to your shitty outfit? It's painfully obvious you aren't from here.

>>144766974
If he was VS it would be Throat AIDS.

>>144766113
I haven't legitimately played this game since before construction

>>144766113

It's a ded game

The fact that it's popular in other chans by people spouting tired memes is more evidence of those chans cultural irrelevance. If someone here started posting dozens of doge-themed posts and the activity spiked, it would be embarrassing for that individual rather than symptomatic of a resurgence of popularity and relevance.

Furthermore, this general has been infected by dickless tryhards. No one wants to post their own content because KDR was a mistake, and the moment your name is seen, some boltshitter is going to look up your stats and claim your 3 KDR is shit compared to their 8 KDR. The more ded this general gets, the more those tryhards are going to migrate to the other chans and infect those enthusiastic environments with their own joyless brand of stathumping.

KDR was a mistake. Redeploy was a mistake. 2 weapon ESFs were a mistake. VTOL was a mistake. Virtually free vehicle pulling was a mistake. Instagib C4 and mines were a mistake. After almost four years, every major decision has reinforced KDR tryhardism over fun which has resulted in a ded game.

I log on due to habit, and log off due to boredom and/or frustration.

>>144766113
>Their threads hit bump limit several times a day,
post rate is inversely correlated with content quality
>they have one of the most active outfits on Emerald,
completely irrelevant
>and every poster there actually plays the game.
sure, that's a good thing, if you disregard the fact that the game has had a steady decline in quality since launch, and has been completely unplayable since construction
however, what pisses me off is that they think they are relevant as a group, but discussion there is impossible (quite literally, it really is the retarded child of /b/ and leddit)
someone here will barely mention that there's a ps2 thread on the other chan, and they'll have a really long reply chain about how "dem nerds at cuckchan are sooper dooper butthurt about us lmao we r le ebic memers"

someone did actually go through the effort of trying to get a bunch of anons to group up, and i applaud them for it, but "big" chan clans for any game have always failed. take CLAB, for example, when it was still alive their squads still barely ever reached 8 people, or (not fully /ps2g/, but still) N with their small squads, and these two outfits had a decent sense of community and achieved things; by comparison, NOGF was """decent""" for a short while, but died a painful death

>>144767787
t. Elite banshee pilot and Prowler driver

>>144767884
>take CLAB, for example, when it was still alive their squads still barely ever reached 8 people

We had a full 12 people squad of anons one :^)

>>144767986

nah, infantryside C4 fairy actually.

My C4 is a bullshit antidote to a bullshit mechanic. Some prowler getting instagibbed by my C4 is almost certainly no fun for him, just as me getting instagibbed by an ESF hoverpodding is no fun for me.

>>144767986
t. 8 KDR tryhard boltshitter

>>144768213
The only kind of fun you can get is in a squad.

>mechanical centipedes hammering shit
>liberator spam
>meme weapons squads
>that one guy playing music in proximity chat, or being a cheeky cunt otherwise
>harrasser's charge

>>144754075
>Vehicle darklight

Plebbit would never let that happen. The most vocal shitters main shitfiltrator.

>>144769317
the most vocal shitter main prowlers and mossies and flak maxes

>>144771601
t. ivory tower pilto

>>144754075
>Miner

kek

I love you /ps2g/, even in death.

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>>144777959
;_:

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>>144782518
I flip these damn things all the time

>>144777959
I don't love you

>>144777959
AND IIIIIIIIII
WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOOOOOOOU

>>144777959
If you really loved me you'd let me shit on your chest.

>>144777959
isn't that illegal

>>144769317
you meant heavy, right?

>>144791268
you mean esf, right?

>>144792253
you mean lib, right?

On Miller, TR is the hardest faction to get 100 KPH as. There are no balanced infantry fights, and if there are, they won't last long. Both NC and VS zerg us so hard that it's not even possible to farm them before they surround the spawn room with 50 vehicles. Nobody ever pulls vehicles on defense, so the enemy just drives next to our spawn room. Meanwhile there are always multiple 48-96 NC-VS fights with 50-50% pop.

I like the idea of the Rocket Rifle for Light Assault because a class in a combined arms game having zero ranged anti armor capabilities is a little stupid, especially when medic and heavy assault are usually better at killing

But now infiltrator is gonna seem a little useless. Maybe it could use vehicle hacking?
I'm not sure if Medic should have any anti-vehicle/max capability because it's so good at reviving entire pushes

>>144794280
Why does every class need a ranged anti-vehicle option?
Why does one of the best anti-armor classes need one?
What next? Maybe we should give LA a medgun? Why not let it deploy turrets? Why not give it the repair tool, so a LA player can just fly up to an ESF and fix it mid-combat?

>>144795005
Might as well put an inventory system in, that would be madness.

>>144795115
AR heavy when

>>144795005
>why does one of the best anti armor classes need one?

I hate this meme. Light Assault is a good anti armor class on retards.

C4 fairies are instantly rendered redundant by:
>slightly driving in the opposite direction they're flying at you in, if you know you're there or do it by accident this will dodge them every time
>pulling ANY air vehicle
>pulling a shield sunderer

They're good against vehicles because they're better at not being seen by vehicles but there's not much of anything they can do to contest a tank driver who's actually competent and not absorbed in his sick farms.

>>144793886
weak bait desu

>>144795378

I'm a C4 fairy and they have plenty of tools. Just because you have C4 doesn't mean you're entitled to that tank kill. Just like having a tank doesn't mean you're impervious to infantry.

>They're good against vehicles because they're better at not being seen by vehicles but there's not much of anything they can do to contest a tank driver who's actually competent and not absorbed in his sick farms.

Yes there really are things you can do.

>>144795378
There is a much more important point in that post that you seemed to have missed when typing all of that out.

>>144796376
Hey there folks, light assaults need buffs. Subscribe.

>>144797037
this seems unfair, NC and VS LAs are already very strong
how about only buffing TR LA? or maybe buffing all three, but TR LA more than the others?

>>144796376
>>144795005
I think most classes should have some kind of anti-vehicle option because Heavy Assault has been the go-to "do everything" class for ages and don't act like this isn't true

there's a reason all the MLG profags almost exclusively play heavy assault

>>144798248
Only if you like, comment, rate and subscribe.

>>144798282
I remember when a Heavy Assault revived me, healed me to full, put down a healing field, deployed an ammo pack, repaired the turret he had previously deployed, all before throwing an EMP, flash, and smoke grenade sequentially as he jetpacked away to fairy vehicle mines over an enemy tank, all while cloaked.

>>144798282
>there's a reason all the MLG profags almost exclusively play heavy assault
yeah, the shield

there's a reason all the MLG profags don't leave buildings ever and just focus on IVI wank

>>144798621
>>144798686
m8i played light assault exclusively for years because i had a lot of fun playing it

and then i was just like "why the fuck am i doing this" and switched to heavy assault/engineer because they're both objectively better for actually getting things done

>>144799985

That seems counter intuitive.

After years shouldn't you realize that there's literally nothing to get done, and that fun is the only real value to be gained from this or any game? The accomplishments in this game are arbitrary and meaningless.

>Some autists mined 10000 cortium. One point for Gryffindor! Hooray!
It's nonsense.

Fun fact: if you're an actual good player, LA is far superior to HA, in terms of fun, farm, and IVI statwank.

>>144800456
It's not, though. You can flank, that's it. Hopping around wiping out bad squads by leaping through windows and shit is fun, but as soon as there's any vehicles or sunderers need to get destroyed or there's maxes or a job actually has to get done, heavy assault is a better pick.

>>144802051
>It's not, though.
But it is.
t. almost certainly the best /ps2g/ infantry player

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>>144803108
>t. almost certainly the best /ps2g/ infantry player

>>144803874
Laugh all you want, shitter.

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>>144808260
You first. It was you who claimed to be the best.

>>144795352
>tfw I'll never get to play pre-nerf TAR heavy

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>>144803874
>>t. almost certainly the best /ps2g/ tank player

>>144813518
Prowlers are underpowered.

>>144809786
That was actually supposed to be directed at
>>144803108
Gomen

>>144814610
not really. That would be swagriders. Two prowlers working together and covering each other are a pain in the ass of freedom.