/gbfg/ Granblue Fantasy General #274

Sticks

water

dicks

>>144413283
and stones

Udders.

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>playing fire

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I'm a Virasexual. Vira thread!

Reminder that your oponion doesn't matter unless you're Wata.

>>144413234
Would Vira somewhat count as a stand user?
>>144413349
Pinya axes my break my bones but sticks will never hurt me

>>144413489
What about me?

>>144413489
Reminder that you should fuck off.

>>144413489
Maybe when he grows a brain and changes his summons.

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Do I actually need to do the ele change to light on the light harp? It appears to have the exact same ougi as my ele changed fire harp so the only difference is 30 attack if I plan to use it as light? Unless there's a modifier upgrade or something that comes along with it.

>>144413508
mahou shoujo

YATTA

>>144413410
this art is really pretty

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>>144413508
>Would Vira somewhat count as a stand user?
I don't really think so. Chevalier merges with her entirely, the "wings" she gains don't really feel like a stand to me.

>>144413316
Theory crafting and being overly serious in a game based on luck and the time/money you spend on it seems kinda stupid and lame.

>>144413409
Pretty much. Why have a grandiose dream of being "good" with flying big numbers when you can overcome that hurdle easily with cash. It really feels stupid to be stressed about this game when you look at whale pictures.

>>144413606
If you don't care about the heal, sure.

>>144413810
It already has the heal though. Does the heal get better?

>>144413864
Normal GW weapons without element change doesn't have their unique ougi effect, just generic ougi up.

>>144413781
>Theory crafting and being overly serious in a game based on luck and the time/money you spend on it seems kinda stupid and lame.
I know, right?

It's funny when people legitimately get annoyed, upset or salty about another person's good luck. Jokingly saying explode, sure, but when you see people sulk and get whiny because somebody else lucked out with XYZ is fucking hilarious.

>>144413781
>Why have a grandiose dream of being "good" with flying big numbers when you can overcome that hurdle easily with cash.
There is power bought and then there is power earned. The latter feels infinitely more satisfying. Putting in effort, learning mechanics and optimal setups and then matching or even beating the whales who bought power that they don't understand how to use feels great.

>>144413931
b-but it clearly does as you can see on the image. I have both those harps right now. Before the first step it had the ougi up but with the first step finished (before ele change) it got the heal and debuff up rate, so my question is if I can skip the ele change since it's for light.

>>144413864
It doesn't. If you want the harp as light, then stop before the element change. Not worth it.

>>144413931
They have

Where do I get the tales mobage from anyway

>>144414036
Have you actually tried using the thing? Like all of this could be solved by you simply testing the damned thing.

>>144413961
It's those esporting faggots that have a innate desire get ahead of everyone else.

>>144413931
are you thinking of the awakening step? i'm pretty sure you can stop before element change for light

>>144414036
The heal only gets better after the last step which requires the gold bar so you can just skip it if you just want a light harp.

>>144414397
There's nothing wrong with that.

>>144414450
Yeah. Didn't notice the ougi changed after the awakening step since I always go straight to element change afterward.

I really could use some help with Oneiros, please.

0B051558

>>144414572
If people want to esports, sure. But getting mad, salty or sulking over other people having slightly better luck in a mobile browser game? That's just petty and infantile.

>>144414397
I can understand why people would get salty over your own bad rolls, at the very least. Since you're wasting real money.

>>144414012
>Putting in effort
is luck considered as effort?

>>144413781
I was disillusioned with the game when I saw the picture of a certain Rank 50 light player who got everything in a small span of time.

>>144414745
>slightly

>>144414696
You might want to open it because I fucked up

>>144413396
Show up and maybe I will, Old man

Is it just me or has the game slowed to a crawl? I can't even get things to load.

>>144415449
ChromeApp? Close your browser.

Need mvp tiamat

f171d518

>>144413410
I want to touch her skirt.

out of curiousity, is the corrupted ygg fight in chapter 40 winnable, or is it a scripted loss?

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>144416727
You can technically win it, but you're supposed to lose.

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>>144416741

>>144416741
>snek's face
Have as stick LOOOOL

>>144414756
It is according to Tiger Woods.

>>144410849

I don't get it. do you have to get everything ready before celestials? Is the gold bar disappear after event or something?

or you just want to make Sorn right away after got the gold bar?

>>144416801
There isn't a god

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Gran version when

>>144413410
I feel attracted to her.
Should I SD her?

>>144416773
Ah, thought so, thanks

>>144417157
if you're not going to get upset about her being a lesbian, sure. she's a good character

>>144417157
haha cuck corrective rape MEMES XDD!!

>>144417247
>she's a good character

I hope you meant viability-wise and not in terms of personality.

>>144416921
>bitch
Gran will be a gigolo then.

>>144417247
>if you're not going to get upset about her being a lesbian
All she needs is some good ol' corrective rape

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>>144417247
>She's a good character
Only in design and gameplay, friend

Why is the tales light unknown bad?

>>144417325
i did mean viability wise, but i like her personality personally. of course that's just a matter of taste.

>>144417325
>>144417375
>>>/feg/ is that way, folks

>>144417428
What does this even mean? Are you retarded or something?

>>144417352
I'm pretty sure Gran would just be a bitch fuccboi servicing doraf men

Fucking hell, did americans wake up?

>>144417539
unfortunately

Vira is good for ________________.

>>144417539
Yeah.

>>144417564
memes

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>Vira was nice to me on my birthday

She can be sweet when she isn't a cunt.

>>144417564
Corrective rape

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>>144417157
I ticketed her but then

>>144417564
hand holding

>>144417564
Triggering /gbfg/.

i want to give vira a hug

>>144417661
It's a pretty good sword for swordmaster.

>>144417564
Veil.

>>144417809
She seems like the type of person that needs one.

I don't want to rape Vira.
I want her to rape me.

>>144417564
Corrective rape.

>>144417809
I want to give Vira a therapist.

>keep getting Oneiros weapons

So do I just feed these to the weapons I'm going to actually use?

>>144417958
if you want nirvana reduce them

>>144417935
Are you the rapist?

>>144418052
Just a concerned acquaintance.

How could you even get Vira interested in your dick in the first place

Where's the best place to farm tier 2 light orbs?

>>144418179
Obviously through corrective rape

>>144418182
Whale tears

>>144418182
Angel halo then trade 10 tier 1 orbs for 1 tier 2, or scrap a light ssr weapon and equip the +1 scrap treasure.

>ワンパン放置禁止でお願いします
Heh

>>144418238
How?
She'll tear you up with Chev if you even manage to get past Lyst Sin + her fencing

>>144418482
Just teleport behind her.

>All this headcanon
Vira always munches on carpet when she isn't eating oatmeal or vegetables

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>>144418482
You don't know who that anon is, how can you be so sure

>>144418482
>implying

you already fucked her shit up once in the story, surely you can do it a second time

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Which one of you leeching fucks is SephiZack?

>>144418885
Why would you complain about that guy but not the swordmaster?

>>144418885
>he says as the Rank 124 Swordmaster does nothing

>>144418947
Because SephiZack is obviously the name of someone here. Or reddit.

>not just guilt tripping Vira in to relieving you by telling her Katalina wants to fuck you by her own volition because she wants to take care of your stress

>>144419071
>obviously

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>want to run more colo
>do the hard colo
>he drops 0 animas

>>144418885
t. SephiZack

>>144419125
She would just kill you

>>144419658
Not if i killed her with my cock first. Nothing beats the cock

>>144419698
people like you are why lesbians even exist at all, anon

Virafriends
How would you prove your devotion to her

>>144419742
So you're saying being a lesbian is a choice then?

>>144418885

>water mememaster

I main water and I am still flabbergasted

>>144419742
>Political lesbians
I'm pretty sure real lesbians hate those types because they almost always go back to the cock since they're not actually homosexual.

>>144419824
it's a natural and ingrained revulsion

>>144419846
Cat's sword has ODA.

>>144419742
Lesbos exist because it's natural, anon. They're not some jerk reaction.

That does not mean that they can't learn to love the Gran cock, though.

How do I properly correct Vira using my dick?

>>144419923
Vira doesn't revile guys though. She just loves Kat in a lesbophile way. She hates anybody that gets in the way, male or female. Including that fuckboy Rowain and the silverhaird shit, Farrah.

>>144419927

Oh, I didnt't know.

because I don't have kat

feels bad

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>>144419846
Kat's sword is pretty good.

>>>/viragen/

>>144417564
Dedicating a guild to.

>>144420061
no bully farrah

i think vira says in a fate episode that she's not fond of men in general

>>144419758
>>144420003
Corrective rape

>>144420226
Hi falz

Virafags and Virasexual poster need to go back to /v/

>>144419190
>run collo
>can take of 30% of his health before opening, hoping for a MVP rush
>no one joins for 30 mins
>someone finally joins, its a whale

Its like getting cucked.

>>144420070
I feel ya, at least we'll always have her SR. Maybe I'll get lucky and roll her summer version.

>>144420316
They were always here, newfriend.

>>144420306
>falz
Who?

Post Vira.

Can you element change bahamut weapons?

Idolfag guild where?

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>>144420474

gas the lesbos

>>144420521
Yes

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>>144420474
I just ordered her dakimakura, Will post pics once it arrives.

>>144419190
why is she crying

>>144420521
dont listen to this moron>>144420727
you can't

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>>144420176
They are natural enemies, anon. Farrah and Vira compete for Katalina's lesbian love. One day, Vira will kill Farrah.

>>144418885
Darchrow's alt.

>>144420878
thingken about rolls

>>144420947
I want to poke Farrah.

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>>144420474
>>144420830

>>144420947
YATTA

>>144420947
still fucking upset that they wasted a qt like farrah on the epic "everyone is obsessed with kat" meme

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I fucking hate Japanese RPGs for this shit. You're getting along in the story and approaching the big finale and then BAM "lol no you don't faggot go grind for another two weeks :^)" completely ruining the flow and build up.

>>144421589
gee anon maybe you should just get good

>>144421589

>two weeks

heh

>>144421589
Uh...

>>144421589
why the repost tho

>>144421589
Anon my pool is trash and the only actually good dark ssr I have is Naru, yet I still beat everything up to akasha
Git
Gud

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>>144421589
I beat that thing with an earth team with no Eugen.
Literally git gud.

>>144421589
>2 weeks

use the rebound bonus if you're struggling that hard.

Would Kat get a Vyrn mold from bad dragon?

>>144421993
Vii isn't for lewd

>>144421589
Why are you playing the story anon

Is bluestacks better than chromeapp?

>>144422256
What makes you think it would be?

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>>144422041

Go to bed nips

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>>144422297
Just looking at instructions on how to do the google gift card method, telling me to use a android phone / bluestacks

>>144422532
>japs
>sleep

All slant-eyes play video games until they die of exhaustion.

I really could use some help with Ikelos. I tried on my own but I barely got to 60% before he put on to sleep several times on a row.

12547E6A

>All this Vira
Don't make me fap.

>>144422765
Thanks again, Sim.

>>144422897
while you fap to her, she faps to kat

Help
I've spent all my BP restores running Grande

I've lost control of my life

>>144423127
Just get more from the casino.

>>144423047
I actually came in with a party that does something this time

Is Virasexualanon a major autist? Why does he feel attraction towards her?

>>144423457
He's a cuck

>>144423457
a closet cuck

>>144423457
Doubt he's any more autistic than most people here.

>>144423457
c u c k b o y z

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>>144423127
>using bp restore outside magnafest/celestial

>>144423457
Is it actually one person

>>144417396
This looks cropped. Where is the rest of the image?

>>144423457
I miss the Cog anon

>>144423382
Still, thanks for the assist.

>>144423457
What if Virasexual anon is a girl

>>144423562
But that would require me waiting for my Cosmos weapon and that's horrible

>>144417396
>design
i hate this meme, she just looks average like the rest, i get if you like her for imai/lesbo stuff but lets not get ahead of yourselves

Just a reminder to the viracuck(s) that Sen didn't win the ssr poll just because she doesn't have a ssr

Wish I could actually trade my vira for her

who is best girl again

>>144423079
And kat faps to gran.

>>144423779
Luria.

How does being sexually attracted to someone that isn't sexually attracted to you make you a cuck?
Does that mean all of you are cucks?

>>144423779
Birdman is the best girl

>>144423779
Aoidos

>>144418847
Vira is multitudes more powerful (and multitudes more psychotic when in battle than she was in the story now that she can fully merge with Chev.

>>144423610
i dont, they are the same shit

>>144423779
Lanlan, Biribiri, Sen

>>144423779
Cammieux. The poll says so!

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>>144423694
It's okay, anon. Been there, done that. Don't let your dreams be dreams.

>>144423849
They don't know what that word means.
Ignore and move on.

Who do I Start Dash if I want a cute girl

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>>144423945
Sen is CUTE.

>>144421794
yeah ok

>>144423694
We literally just had a magfest.

>>144423986
>this guy again

>>144423995
Depends, what element do you want senpai

>>144424047
But you don't know what it means.

>>144423986
All virafags fap to Vira being unfaithful.
This is fact

>>144423849
>>144423986
>>144424103
wew cucks

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>>144419758
By supporting her love for Kat. And being her emotional support when she's inevitably shot down.

>>144424103
It means liking somebody that doesn't like you, dumb cuck.

Vira is only good for her body.

>>144424197
You don't know what that word means, dumb cuckposter.

>>144424034
I'm sorry anon but I don't linger on the past, I live for the now

>>144424203
This.

>>144424203
literally people suddenly started "liking" her after the 5*, coincidence? i think not

>>144424310
esportsfags ruins everything yet again

>>144421794
You know having Sara for a shitty cancer fight like that isn't even comparable to having a subpar limited like Eugen right?

>he ougis 3 times then dies he's good
lol

>>144424181
With hugs?

>>144424392
With rape

>>144424392
And headpats while she cries into my chest.

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>>144424197
>It means liking somebody that doesn't like you, dumb cuck.
This is what cuckposters actually believe.

>>144424445
*corrective

>>144421794
This eugen is good meme needs to stop. I bet you fags don't even play earth.

Woo I managed to solo Ikelos. Took a whale tier Grande Order and alot of RNG procs on charm and him passing out.

It's always nice to make noticeable progress, best I could do at the start of the event was 30%

>>144424514
What else are we supposed to call them

>>144424536
Aletheia being good is the best earth meme I know
he's a C tier attacker at this point with all the others they have

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Black Knight a cute.

So I've managed to get a MLB katana, and 2* rusted bow off baha. I picked harp for my first GW and got 2. Do I continue on with the harp or switch one of the other two?

If someone could also point me to a GW character tier list I'd appreciate it. The guides are all over the place

>>144424536
>ougis out of his ass are bad
Okay

Are there any events going on for new players right now or should I just log on to an old account? The old account doesn't really have that much on it.

>>144424715
He's dead anyway.

>>144424445
Rape would only make her act colder towards you.
Think about it like this, Vira fetishizes Kat because she acted nice towards her.
If you came to her aid in times of need, she could potentially emotionally lean on you if she gets over Kat.

>>144424783
Rude

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>>144424536
-Sort ok-ish direct attack
-Counter attack
-Instant ougi

He may have his uses, but his repertoire is lacking. Even freaking Camieux is more useful thanks to her ougi damage burst and her non elemental attack.

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>pokerbotting while playing that shitty tales of mobage in preparation for monday

>>144424803
cuck

>>144424742
>dirt ougis
Ougi's don't mean shit when light, dark and wind can do more auto damage in a turn than your ougi can.

>>144424705
So all you're capable of is name-calling then?

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>>144424939
>not pokerbotting, autoing tales and watching anime at the same time

>it's a /gbfg/ reveals how little they know about the game episode
Just waifupost or something, stop talking about the game because you're giving me a ulcer when you do.

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Balruga a cute

I need images of Sen.

>>144425153
calm down soilfag, its not our fault that you a re poor

>>144424536
>tfw I fell for the ticket if earth meme

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>>144425092
Earth still has its uses and survival skills.

>>144425092
I thought they were comparing Eugen to other Earth characters, I'm pretty sure it's a known fact and agreed that Earth as an element is fucking shit compared to Light, Wind or Dark.

>play fire
>ougi for 40k
>reroll light
>autos for 40k
>ougis doing 120k
Light has such a rough start. :^(((

Only Cog or Virafags defend using dirt.

idol guild where

>>144425152
>autoing tales
I would if my team wasn't getting fucked over by LV14 enemies

>>144425552
Did you get the free Yuri and level him with books?

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Can we make a love live guild since the im@s guild isn't happening?

>>144425506
Virasexual guild where

>>144425552
>not using best boy
>not letting him steamroll everything on the way

>>144425552
People have spoonfed how to easily get to 30 for the last week.

>>144425610
Is Yuri the guy with the blue bar below his HP bar?

>>144425552
Get the kirito from the mail box and feed him the books

>>144425552
>tfw got Rita and she does 50-70% damage to level 42 enemies with her super

If I were to make a Virasexual guild right now, what should I call it?

>>144425623
Aikatsu guild or bust.

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>>144425663
Honestly triggered
>>144425757
Shit taste: the guild

>>144425552
>tfw used yuri and another 5star and three 4stars and still could barely summon the willpower to get to 40 in case some new reward requirement comes up

that game annoyed me on so many levels

>go to 5 different coop rooms
>met yodashitter everytime
I want those shitters to be purged.

>>144425757
The Cuck Club

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>>144425757
Virasexuals

What else would you call a Virasexual guild.

I won't be joining even though I'm the "I'm a Virasexual" autist. My guild is pretty comfy and it wins GWs. I wish you luck though.

>>144425830
Git gud and Yoda.

>>144425663
>>144425727
>mailbox

Got him and like 2 ten rolls
Time to steamroll my way to 30 today

At what point is Tia stronger than Anat?

>>144425974
You're not autistic.
Love is normal.

>>144426040
When the calc tells you.

>>144425623
How about the new hottest: Walküre guild?

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I'll be making an idolfag guild if this guy doesn't step up. Message me if you want in.

ID: 9984310

>>144426125
How can you prove it's your id?

>>144425812
Have you seen how he throws the katana in the air after how he attacks? He's literally kirito

POST POKER BOT

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>>144426215
Use the old ">>144426215 is a faggot" method.

>>144425959
>Watch out, Aliza!
>Can't hit meee!
>Watch out, Aliza!
>Can't hit meee!
>Watch out, Aliza!
>Can't hit meee!

>Hey! As I thought, that girl isn't Aliza!
>She's just someone else right?
>S-h-e i-s A-l-i-z-a [mechanical voice]
>S-h-e i-s t-h-e A-l-i-z-a

>Ehh, I am... (small text near Hare)
>H-u-m-a-n-s a-r-e s-o d-u-m-b
>Graphos!?

Which waifu do Waifufags flock to most

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>finally roll a character off 90MC
>it's this fucking potato

Hitting the renown cap is the worst

>>144426226
Not even him but you're a fuckwit.

Comparing Yuri to Kirito just makes it obvious you have no fucking clue why Yuri is as popular as he is. They couldn't be less alike if they tried.

he has all the debuffs and a shield and a full heal twice and 5k damage auto and cleanses his own debuffs and you have to kill the shield also he's a wind boss after a water boss hope you didn't use earth faggot

:^)

>>144426519
Most waifufags flock to cuckbait like Vira and Narumea

>>144426771
Don't forget the pedofags that go to vampy and cag

>>144426756
Insideranon?

>>144426771
>cuckbait
Fucking hell kill yourself already.

>>144426771
>tl;dr Im a faggot and I dont like these characters

>>144426519
/gbfg/'s, Reddit's, and NeoGAF's favorite character is Vira.

>>144426756
Rebound bonus to 100% if you're having that much trouble with levi/mithra

>>144426858
He's the dumb dirtfag complaining about the mithra levi fight.

>>144426897
I just stated the truth though. Both are extremely popular with waifufags and both aren't lusting after the self insert's dick.

>>144426771
What does that make me when my random rolls gave me
Sen
Vira
Naru
Light Jeane
Sara

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>still have to grind out the last 500,000 honors I need in the event

I'm so tired.

>>144427029
Someone that should ticket vampy
Also a lucky fuck, explode etc

>>144426990
If you don't know what a word is, stop using it.

>>144426917
Vira also ranks high among nips in every character poll.

>>144427119
you seem upset

>>144426990
>Naru
>not wanting the Gran
Okay falz, we know you dont play the game but that doesnt excuse your ignorance

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Why do people care about who gets the bigger numbers when you can get everything the game has to offer by just leeching?

A fire fag can get a full 4* pool, cosmo weapon, SSR baha, etc like any other light fag can. The only big difference is that one gets to have a team full of fluffy cuties while the other doesn't.

>>144427316
At some point you want to be the one doing the carrying instead of the filthy leech.

>>144427158
Not at all. As someone who also hates Vira, I'm helping you out.
Acting like a dumbass won't get those "Viracucks" to reconsider waifuing her.

>>144427316
Being a leech gets you blacklisted if you do it long enough. Have fun never playing with anyone and having to solo everything with your shit team.

>>144427316
My dick also likes big numbers and multiple red boxes

>>144427316
esportsfags.

>>144427406
I was merely pretending though.

Vaseraga 5* when?

>>144427316
What else are we going to achieve in life?

>>144427417
What does it mean to be blacklisted? Are they all going to leave the raid when they see you join.

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>>144427316
>you can get everything the game has to offer by just leeching
Haha. Yeah! You sure told us! You come back and show us how well leeching your maniac modes and Baha HLs goes!

>>144427029
and I just started like 4 weeks back

>>144427105
I recently did and also L.Grey

>>144427316
Only lightfags care about bigger numbers while elements like dark, fire and water play for cuties.

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>>144427316
>light a dark fags do all the work while the other element sit back and still get the same loot

Truly the cuck elements.

>>144427668
>dark

>>144427668
>water
Nice try, waterfag.

I'm about to pay for Vira. I know I am going to regret having a slow grind, but at least I have Vampy too

>>144427668
But I also play for the cuties and I main water

>>144427770
It's okay to be gay.

>>144427758
Hope you have Baha

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>>144427593
>manic
>hard

What's next? Are we going to start pretending soloing your own omegas is hard too?

>>144427316
Jeanne and Ferri are pretty cute

I also got the fire meta of Percy Clarice Yuel

I can be esports all I want and also have cuties

>>144427895
Managed to get him today
Rerolled during the current gacha

>>144427770
>tfw water roster
its like bishies-r-us in here

So the point dagger is useful for every honor event right? Including GW?

>>144428043
>Jeanne and Ferri are pretty cute

Amira is the cutest. Fight me.

>>144427825
>boys can't be cute

>>144428214
I only have these two

And Seruel

The ideal light team is literally an all girls team
Jeanne, Amira, Ferry, Sophia and Song

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>Uzuki, Rin or Sachi have no birthday lines

Nice one Cygames.

>>144428343
i thought Abel was a high value lite char as well

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>>144426125
I got in touch with him through that email that was posted a while back. He said he got busy with some stuff and won't be on for a while so I offered to do it since I want it to happen and he gave me access to that Google doc.

Do you really wanna lead it yourself or should I since I got the info? Assuming that everyone that actually applied are still interested of course.

>>144428343
You forgot Io you idiot.

>>144428343
W-what about Io-chan?

>>144428485
Post your ID

>>144428485
Wait, so it's real? This is not a meme? I want to get in too.

>>144426756
Seeing how I shitstomped the thing as a dirtfag you can shut up now.

Which darks are good and cute

>>144428485
That guy is obviously not Sani. He hasn't posted any proofs it's him.

>>144428752
But there's no proofs that it isn't him.

How many times can you reroll per day again? 10 times?

>>144428673
3955208

No bully pls

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Zeta is not only cute, but also useful.

>>144428871
Wait, you're that based guy that mvp'd baha.

>>144428681
You can stop pretending anytime soon.

>>144428871
>3955208
>Rin
You're a pretty cool guy.

>>144429012
Nah I got second in that one that was posted earlier. Wasn't paying attention and used my dark buncle at the wrong time.

if i actually, earnestly, spend all my natural AP/EP on events, and events dovetail or even overlap with each other how am i supposed to continue with the main quest

>>144428871
Please make the guild. I'm getting tired of asking about it every thread.

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>29

>>144429341
You use pots like you're supposed to do.
You only need to complete the story once, burning through it on one or two 1/2 ap events should get you to the end.

>>144429451
S M U G
M
U
G

>>144429507
how often do the 1/2 ap events roll around?
i like to take my time with the story

>>144429451
Catherine is the only cute harvin

>>144429007
Best girl

>>144429772
>catherine
secondary pls go

http://exhentai.org/g/934936/e8796b9412/

Kurimomo does it again.

>>144428871
Were you that Rinfag with 70k stats that posted the other day?

>>144429861
You're the secondary here, anon.

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>>144429772
>catherine

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Is there no way to grancoin this on chrome app?

>>144430118
download cyanpiles

How much would a 12 SSR account go for

>>144428871
Proofs?

>>144429940
Catherine is not a fucking harvin.

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>>144429451