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Previous >>144308543


>[Shuten-Doji gacha until 15.6]
- Limited 5* assassin Shuten-Doji
- Event CEs
- 3* Benkei CE: blocks debuffs (1 time) | gourd drops (+1)
- 4* Kiyo CE: +25% damage against males | debuff success rate +12% | gourd drops (+2)
- 5* Tamamo CE: NP gain +20% | gain 3 crit stars every turn | gourd drops (+3)

>[Story half ap quests till 8.6]
- Oni event requires you to complete America

>[Oni raid event until 15.6]
- Raid boss Berserker Ibaraki
- 5* assassin Shuten-Doji temporarily added to gacha
- Event CEs help to defeat Ibaraki; Ushi can be purchased from the shop, Kintoki is part of the damage reward pool - both can be dropped from 1-3 BP quests
- 5* Ushi CE: Quick cards +10% | upon death: ally Quick cards +10% | damage vs. Ibaraki 100% (self)
- 5* Kintoki CE: NP charge +30% | battle start: +15 stars (1 time) | Party ATK (includes support) +50%
More information can be found @fgo_english
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160531.php

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Siegfried, Spartacus, Stheno, Darius, Memeaxe, Kintoki, Nero, Gilgamesh, Saber Lily, and David have lvl. 10 bonds now
- Stay away from cheatAPK, as damage is being tracked

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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Jannu banzai.
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EVIL WITCH
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I love you Gilgamesh!
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>>144327296
Time for a dumb question but are the gacha rates for all 5* servants doubled or just Shuten?
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xth for depression
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>>144327446
If all the rates were doubled that would make doubling Shutens rate kind of meaningless wouldn't it.
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>>144327446
Just double the chance that if you roll a 5* Servant, it will be Shuten.
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Good morning /fgog/

Heres waiting for welfare Ibaraki to sooth the pain of being able to roll Shuten.
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>>144327446
>doubled
You must be new here
Shuten still has 1% just the chance for her to show up within that 1% is higher
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Xth for best archer
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>>144327379
If someone manage to summon both Jeanne+Jeanne Alter into the grail war, will they be invincible?
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Xth for Onis

>tfw other Dojis never
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Xth for unable to roll Shuten
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LIZ THREAD
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>>144327556
Shuten was a sign for us all, to not be swayed by current trends and instead save our gems for what we really want.
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>>144327591
They don't like each other though but Jeanne is pretty strong. Rulers are OP lorewise
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>>144327556
So, you rolled Shuten and it was so painful you need soothing?
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>>144327521
>>144327549
>>144327559
Ehh fuck it. I'll roll anyway, worst comes to worst Shuten will be NP2
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>>144327569
Agreed, Karna's great.
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>>144327556
Fuck off.
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How many hours until our game in the 4cc?
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>>144327556
>to sooth the pain of being able to roll Shuten.

I hate you anon
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>>144327735
I really want Shuten.
I didn't know it till now, but damned as hell, I really want her.
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>>144327735
But that has been every time-limited Servant until now. People just don't want to learn from their mistakes.
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>>144327863

It's tomorrow.
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>>144327752
Alter is nothing to laugh at either, she can send her dragons to chew her enemies plus her stats are that of a berserker (except endurance)
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>8 Kintoki CE
Gold please.
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>>144327863
English motherfucker, do you speak it?
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>>144327735
I told myself I would try all the tickets I get, and 50 gems and no more that way I can have some for others I want. I've gotten nothing but absolute garbage. Its fine though. Gotta keep it positive and count my blessings.

>>144327771
>>144327889
Sorry, I'm not a morning person. I meant to say not roll.
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>Roll two tickets while watching LOGH
>Get Shuten

Happy times.
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Xth for assassin Arjuna
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>>144328052
>morning
Its 8PM now though
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>>144327735
>current trends
But I've been wanting for the Onis ever since
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>>144327962
I need to start saving up for Alter Egos either way
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>>144328217
Shit taste.
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>>144328158
Anytime I wake up its morning. Thats what I tell myself so I don't feel like an unproductive loser.
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>>144327735
Bu what if the servant I really want was already released
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>>144328301
I wish I had normal Arturia for a stay night team.
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>>144328316
Use all the gems you've been saving up for them
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>>144328301
>Atomic Gatorade instead of snek kung fu CE
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>>144328301
>Savior of France
You mean REGEND?
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>>144327735
Jeanne Alter will come back, right? I'm good. I've been saving up.

She will come, right?
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>>144328310
That's a very pirate way of thinking, Drake would be proud of you.
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>>144328458
But what if they'll never return?
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>>144327693
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>>144328135
>Assassin
>Everyone can smell him from a mile away because he smells like shit
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>>144327735
What if I want everyone
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>>144328538
You need to have Bryn for her to come back
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>>144328135
Does that mean is NP will just be a bomb vest?
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>>144328538
Eventually. But the only Servants released since the first of the year that have come back were the Super Curry Bros, because even from the start they were announced to come back for America.
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>>144328458
I already got him tho
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>>144328559
>>144327693
Alright, post every version you fucks.
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>>144327821
Welp. Got assassin EMIYA, Not the worst result I guess?
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>>144328772
>him
Thats gae
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Have you greeted your Empress wife today
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>>144328802
Better than his shitter of a son.
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>>144328880
Fuck you. EMIYA's NP needs all the help it can get.
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>>144327735
I was always looking forward to the Doujis, I was just waiting for the designs, and I really like both designs. The voice just makes it a million times better.

The fact that she's an assassin though marks it down. I already have 3 gold assassins, and those are good enough for me. I'll just wiat for Li Shuwen rate up so I can finally roll a gold Lancer.

>>144328550
Thanks.
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>>144328869

Go take your medicine, brain treatment-kun.
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>>144328869
Soon I'll have the mousepad with her on it and be frequently laying my hands all over her breasts
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I'm tired of waiting.
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>>144328939
>master1200
I take back what I said, Drake would just see you as a massive disappointment for saving thumbnails.
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>>144327735
I spent my tickets but saved my gems. Just got the 300 day bonus so I'm in good shape.

Waiting for the next power-creeped cutie.
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>>144328880
That's true. So why does Assassin Emiya go the whole tanned with white hair route. Sexed up a cup one too many times?
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>>144328938
I find its usable at 4/5. God, why can't I roll other 4* is really want to use?
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Does anyone else just stop playing this event when Ibaraki is ded? I just prefer to wait for the next one
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>>144328869
Nope.

Don't have my own Empress wife.

Just brother EMIYA and my kouhai.
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>>144328781
should have lurked longer newfriend
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>>144328781
>Request thread.
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>>144329185
No? Why would you do that? You're delaying your DP rewards and not farming gourds to clear the shop.
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>>144329153
Have you tried taking off your pendants, Rin?
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>>144329080
since it's below 1200 resolution it doesn't get downscaled to go below 1200 res, so there's no prob with master1200 on that image
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>>144329080
My apologies. I didn't notice.
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>>144327735
I keep getting manly men though. My last three SSR were Iskandar, Kintoki and Cu Alter. Fucking bara men.
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>>144329135
It's a reference.
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>>144329153
>spent a few tickets because why the fuck now
>loading
>connecting
>laggy summon spin
>OH SHIT
>silver Archer card
>oh well DW you got me again
>spark gold
>OH SHIT is it poo in loo? or second EMIYA for me finally?!
>second Atalanta

DW rused me again.
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How hard is it to farm these? Kintoki and Helena have been eating mine all up
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>>144329135
>So why does Assassin Emiya go the whole tanned with white hair route

WE WUZ SEIGI NO MIKATA AND SHIET
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>>144328939
Which class would you prefer for her to be?
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>>144329261
Yes, but if he did it for that picture he probably does it for other, larger pictures.
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So when the next Ibaraki rolls around and we beat her, the first copy will join us and Shuten will wake up and become the raid boss right?
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>>144329269
Fuck it.
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>WHEN!
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>>144329025
Now that I think about it DW fucked up by not releasing him for Okeanos. You and Ozzyfags truly suffered
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>>144328575
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>>144329373
Just farm the old dailies
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>>144328990
I'm not brain treatment anon, just a normal Nerofag
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>>144329380
Most people expected her to be Berserker, even though it was pretty obvious that she wouldn't be if both Kintoki and Ibaraki were.
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>>144329420
>WHEN!
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>>144329420
fuck Apocrypha
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>>144328939
I know the feeling, I keep rolling gold zerkers now. I've got Herc, Fran, Florence, and Kintoki. I'm avoiding zerker gachas like the plague now, but I'm still gonna end up with a welfare Ibaraki.

Meanwhile my supply of sabers is pretty low, with only Shiki, Siegfried, and Lily being my golds. Shiki is only really good for farming, which I have zerkers for. And Lily and Siegfried are, well, Lily and Siegfried.

I barely missed the Halloween event, so I don't have Liz and my supply of good casters is low.

I lucked out and got Karna at New year's though, so I'm good on lancers.
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>>144329380
Only Berserker come to my mind if its oni
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>>144328869
Have greeted my Empress, my King, my Captain, my Count and my Saint.
Now I just need my Princess.
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>>144329505
>normal
>Nerofag

Pick one and one only.
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>>144329564
What's so bad about Apocrypha?
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>>144329461
old dailies?
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>>144329701
Sieg's very existence.
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>>144329701
It's a huge waste of potential and it's just written bad in general as well.
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>>144329701
Sieg, Jeanne and Astolfo
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What is the best place to farm for skeleton bones?
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>>144329642
>Princess
Who?
Medea?
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>>144329642
Hi.
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>>144329774
In fairness, the fighting is the best written of any part of Fate.
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I'll do it I swear to god don't test me
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>>144329839
I bet it's Medb.
Brace for shit taste.
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>>144329839
Enkidu
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>>144329927
Medb is a queen though.
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>>144329927
Medb isn't even a princess
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>>144329701
>has very interesting characters
>focused on the worst 3 instead(jannu, sieg, and faggot)
>sieg x jeanne's twilight-tier romance(worst part of the novel)
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>>144329880
Would Medb enjoy being fucked by another girl with a big strap-on?
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>>144329839
Princess of the Moon.

>>144329880
That's a Queen, anon.
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>>144329978
>>144330014
Right. It's definitely time to sleep.
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>>144330054
She's literally Irish Nero, so yes
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It's sad that now we'll never get a nazi gil for GO.
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>>144330106
Rest eternally, crooked clown!
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>>144329701
shitty irrelevant homunculus being a male protag.
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>>144330023
>twilight-tier
I stopped giving that phrase any credence back when shitposters used to try and compare Tsukihime to Twilight. You're going to have to back that claim up.
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>>144330054
There's nothing Medb wouldn't enjoy being fucked by.
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>>144330164
By all accounts she had a major preference for dick, though.
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>>144330171
I'm glad they're gonna change it. It was very offensive.
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>>144327735
I already got the servant I want (Jack) but Shuten is so appealing to me I'm glad I rolled her.
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>>144330164
>Bryn piercing' Medb with her 'spear' when

Also piercing Jeanne Alter

>>144330261
Not like there were many dildos and strap-on lesbians in that time / legend
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>>144330261
So? You can prefer one thing and still enjoy something else.
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>>144329918
Do it fag
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>>144330298
>>144330171
WAIT THEY'RE GETTING RID OF NAZI GIL!?
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>>144330347
Who needed strap ons when the neighboorhodly fae could give you a dick?
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>>144330426
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/03/uh-oh-looks-like-fateextella-got-trouble-one-costumes/
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Oh wow hero's emblem and gold exp bonus!
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>>144329428
There's always the Prototype collab, whenever that is.
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>>144330443
I do
My fetish doesn't work with futas
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I wish there were more filler gachas like the one that added Bryn, Cum Hail and Tyler Durden.
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>>144328475
Savior of France, the REGEND of the Samurai, the Prince of Slayers, cornerstone of the /fgog/ football team.

Sasaki Kojirou has many names, and he wears them all equally well.
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>>144330426
Now can we get rid of Nobu and her shit voice from GO?
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>>144330426
Because some people can't accept WWII happened apparently.

Fucking wimps
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Jeanne a best
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>>144330706
blander than seiba
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>>144330631
Then you'd have people complaining "Oh fuck, this is fucking nothing, its not real content. Bring on the new event already Shitworks!"

We had a week or three of filler gatches right before this event.
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>>144330698
What do you have against Kugimiya? She isn't even using her shitty tsundere voice.
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>>144329701
unnecessary romance between jeanne and shieg.
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>>144330698
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>>144330705
More that some people seem to believe that any depiction of Nazis that aren't 100% demonized is glorifying genocide.
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>>144330831
None of those filler gachas actually added new Servants. Zero did, at least.
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I love my delusional snakefu.
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So Tamamo > Shuten confirmed?
Caster > Assassin after all
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Rama or Vanilla Athuria?
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>>144330023
Wait, Amakusa Shirou doesn't get much focus?

>>144330847
Unnecessary like, it happened out of nowhere?
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>>144329420

>WHEN!
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>>144330698
WASHI JA
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>>144330238
because it is so fucking unnecessary and badly written.
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>>144331050
>WHEN!
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>>144330501
It says they're just changing it. Wonder how they're gonna do that, it's not like he has a swastika or something
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>>144331050
>>144331119
Who?
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>>144331028
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>>144331050
Shinobi gacha when

>5* Assassins Fuma and Chiyome
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>/fgog/ hates Apocrypha
Good. Shit on it even more.
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>>144331018
fucking WHEN
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>>144331256
I guess Japan is not into colored skin characters?
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>>144331018
Self-esteem issues / drunks / depressed
My fetish radar is going to burn through the chassis
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>>144331120
>inb4 recolour
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>>144331331
Everyone hates Apocrypha.
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>>144331018
>5'7"
I keep forgetting japs are short.
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>>144331403
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>>144331219
Best Koha Ace
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Bradamante when?
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>>144331539
>filename
>girls
m8
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>>144331539
Why are all of them so ugly.
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>>144328098
When will it be Medb's time to shine?
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>>144331560
After Roland
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Your waifu would never love you
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>>144331539
Lily and Nero arent half bad looking.
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>>144330054
I know I'd enjoy a doujin of her getting fucked by a futa.
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>>144324568
>http://fatego-japan.com/ibaraki-douji/post-14585/

>2 Arts 2 Berserkers

>Making a Berserker who not only weaker than the rest but is also unable to start their own chains

Not even DW is that fucking sadistic right This event is even more worthless than Zeros. More servants who mean jackshit for the game and will be insta-forgotton within a month once the "MUH WAIFU" blows over or two,outright more worthless CEs and less player convinence
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>>144329891
aaaand it was still shit.
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>>144331460
It can be any color as long as it's GOLD.
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>>144331403
>>144331539
Is this like a takeuchi fantasy
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>>144329420

>WHEN!
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>>144331648
>Bradamante is confirmed
>Roland isn't
Anon...
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>>144331558
Who is the woman with super long hair ?
Also the last guy looks like Li Shuwen.
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>>144331610
>implying all of them isn't crossdresser

m8
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>>144331042
Pretty much. She fell for him for no real reason.

And Amakusa got some focus, but only really as a shady guy and villain. Sieg was the good guy without a doubt because the author and Jeanne said so.
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>>144331714
Nigga is in Valhalla then.
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>>144331662

There is literally no Nero in that pic.
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The absolute worst part about this event is the forced waiting
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>>144329420
When?
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>>144331419
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When?
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>>144331756
Hat guy is the actual Sakamoto Ryouma. Okada was just passing himself as him. And long hair grill is Ryouma's NP
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nice
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>>144331686
>Berserkers

I mean Berserker. Fuck even Iri had thedecency to be packing 3 Arts
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>>144331820
I'm still pissed Higashide couldn't be assed to flesh out Amakusas actual plan. The talentless hack.
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>>144331741
>skill icon have Durandal on it
>not confirmed

Let me dream
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Is Apocrypha the most hated fate? even /a/ hates it.
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>>144331883
Also praying they'll release Quetzalcoatl eventually.
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>>144331686
I'm not rolling the gacha simply because most of these CEs are trash. Shuten has nice sprites and a good voice, but it's not worth.
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>>144331968
I forgot to add
>stupidly long hair
>tall
>pants

to the list
Snek and Yowane Haku are my special favorite waifu
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>>144332103
Prototype
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>>144331820
And to think i was going to download the entire novel after the translation was complete.

Fuck that.
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>>144332103
Half the people who hate it haven't even actually read it. Though the hate isn't completely unwarranted.
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>>144332071
We already have Hector :^)
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>>144332125
Its not a waste if you like the character.
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>>144331686
It's actually 1Q2A2B. But when you say the " unable to start their own chains" thing, isn't it the same for Vlad?
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>>144332113
>implying he isn't Quetzalcoatl
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>>144332103
It's the one with the most wasted potential. It had a nice premise and several good characters and interesting servants, but the worst of the lot got all of the focus.
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>>144332246
That's what I'm saying.
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Perseus when?
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>>144332184
If they were to make an anime of the novel and clarify on some of the more unclear points, could that put it up a lot higher?
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>>144332360
>unclear points
Unless the anime kills of Sieg and Astolfo you can't salvage that garbage.
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>>144332203
Agreed, I'll admit I rolled a ticket or two because I'd like to have her to go with my Kintoki, but I stopped there. My quartz are saved for things I really want.
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Which one is better for secret skill stone farming?
30 AP or 40 AP?

I thought 40 AP would be the answer, but after 25 attempts without a single secret stone I'm really starting to doubt the drop rate.
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>>144332437
This is how you spot someone who actually hasn't read it and is only parroting what other say.
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>>144331686
>2 Berserker
>>144332047
>>Berserkers
>I mean Berserker

Anon I don't know if you are trying to type Buster or what but go to sleep
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>>144331331
I haven't even read it and I hate it. I went into with super high expectations of Jeanne since she I'd one of my favorite historical figures. At first she was portrayed fine, then the second half kicked in and then it all went to the shitter. Where is my pure, strong willed, battle maiden who believes what she did was right well always fight for God. Not this submissive"I want to be a normal girl and fall in love" crap.
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>>144332360
Hate comes from poor pacing and Sieg being a bit too shoehorned into it. It's still quite popular and will probably be the next UFO Fate anime if they don't do hollow.
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>>144332516
But Sieg and Astolfo are fucking garbage
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>>144332184
Pretty much this

90% of people have just had the ending or characters described to them briefly, and think they know what its like.

>>144332360
A lot higher? That would be optimistic.
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>>144332516
This is how you spot a Higashide apologist. The focus on the main three, who are poorly written, over the rest is one of the largest reasons its shit and no amount of clarifying is going to fix that.
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>>144332343
Never.
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>>144332173
>prototype
you mean fobs? /a/ barely mentions prototype they just said it was pretty boring and that's it.

When it comes to apocrypha /a/ shit on it like there's no tomorrow.
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>>144331352
I wish.
I also wish Riders final ascension art was her in the black sweater with glasses instead of the weird dress but hey
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>>144332127
good taste senpai
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>>144331610
Look harder. Most of them are very mannish.
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>>144332360
It'll need to give more focus to the rest of the cast and then you'll need to cha- fuck it, you can't fix it without completely changing the plot. The main character ruins the whole thing and another major character, Jeanne, is also a major roadblock. Astolfo could be fixed easier, but it doesn't change that the plot was trashed by them.
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Pretending for a second that you're not all faggots, who's the best girl?
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>>144332765
>no matter how you slice it, more then one girl is present
>therefore, there are girls
>there are no girls in /fgog/
???
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>>144332831
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>>144332831
Medb.
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>>144332360
Focus on fight scenes and make Sieg no longer the mc. Fight scenes are what it did well, they deserve more.
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>>144331686
Shuten can't do her own quick chains sadly.
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>>144332831
Here.
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>>144332831

Tamamo Vicchi
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>>144332831
Snek
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>>144332831
Jack is a very good girl.
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>>144332869
Kraut-chan used to be here and she's a girl
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>>144332831
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How does Mordred die in Apocrypha again?
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>>144332831
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>>144332831
BB
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>>144332717
Agreed. Maybe one day we'll get a sweater snek CE at least.
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I still haven't read apocrypha, but from what I get the problem is that Sieg has no real reason to be in and with Astolfo and Jeanne, he steals screentime from the other servants, right?
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>>144333034
Like a bitch she is
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>>144333034
Fades away after her master dies from hydra poison
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>>144332831
Nightingale
Vlad III Lancer
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>>144332869
>pretending that we're not all little girls
Anon please.

Also, is the new Kiyohime CE a great fit for Medb or no? I have Shuten and I'm not sure whether to waste more rolls in the gacha or save them. I suppose when Medb gets bond 10 eventually she'll have a good CE for her anyway.
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>>144332360
Siegfried will still commit sudoku and it painful to go through that again even more painful when animated
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>>144332203
Except it is when the character is so impractical you can't reasonbly use her without limiting your potential. Why the fuck struggle over finding a good team for intentionally badly made shitters like Shuten and Astolfo when you can just slap in 3 Saberfaces and EXCALIBURAST your way to eternal death for your enemies? Even if you do the novelty will wear off and you'll be forced to divide your love.

It's literal punishment for not going with the crowd they made
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Where can you check to see how many days you've logged in in a row? I want to see how long until I get my 50 day bonus.
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>>144332360
Focus more on the pairs of Kairi and Mordred, Jack and her master, and give more love to Shakespeare, Karna, and Amakusa. Spartacus could've been used better as well.
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>>144333094
Sieg existing isn't the issue, Sieg being the protagonist and everything revolving around him to the point where it ruins other characters is.
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>>144333034
They barely beat Semiaritas, but her master is badly dying at that point.

He tells her to go off and contract with someone else, she refuses, and disappears when he dies.
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>>144332831
My wife!
Not Ramas
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>>144333183
myroom, fourth down.
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>>144333183
MyRoom - Your Profile

Third or fourth button, can't remember.
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>>144333094
It's a bit awkward, but it's not really that bad. The biggest issue is that the big fight at the second novel happened way too early and killed off half of the characters.
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>>144333227
In fact, do away with the teams thing altogether and tell the story with just 7 Servants + Amakusa as Ruler.
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>>144332831
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>>144333251
>>144333264
Thanks guys.
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>>144333353
The teams are fine as long as they fucking stick to them.
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>Got my 200 days
>roll 60 gems
>No gold Servants
Honestly, what is even the point of rolling now. Already spent 400 gems on this gacha and all I got are Herc and Beo..
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>>144332678
I remember there was a Fate Apo manga thread on /a/. Half of the post is about of how awful it is and the other half are anons wanting strange fake chapter instead.
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Amakusa killed Frank didn't he?
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>>144333094
Correct, they steal the entire show. Everything gets warped around Sieg so that he can come out on top. Jeanne falls for him for no reason, Siegfried kills himself to save Sieg for no reason, and Astolfo royally fucks everything by being stupid as fuck.
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>>144332557

I thought I already had "Buster" in there so it should be "2 Arts 2 Buster Berserker"

>>144332218
Yes and Vlad is Blad Or at least not worth batting an eyelash to many many people when they could just run with Kintoki instead
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>>144332831
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>>144333353
>taking away Jeanne
Without Sieg her character will become infinitely better. Just remove Sieg and Jeanne will be a good character. right?
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>>144333480
Frank killed herself when using Blasted Tree
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>>144333480
She killed herself fighting Mordred
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>>144333094
There's nothing wrong with Astolfo and Joan inherently, but their character development went side up when Seig came into the picture.

Astolfo was the fun side character who got into mischief, and people liked him for that at first. Joan was another interesting character at first who was sent to regulate the war, and couldn't math too well, and was summoned a few countries away as she had to hitchhike to the grail war despite remaining positive.

They were fun in their own right, but then they were forced to the lime-light, and people wonder if any of these roles really suit them. Astolfo was fine as a side character, he didn't really need to be a main character. Joan was fine as a servant in her own right who stayed strong and was going to reel all these various servants in, but then she became the love interest heroine for some reason.
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>>144333240
Why can't cat look this cute?
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>>144333617
No, Jeanne was always boring and a shallow rip off of Saber, see Orleans. You could develop her in nondragondick ways though.
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>>144333353
Might as well just do the third Grail war as a prequel. It'll be way better than trying to fix the mess that is Apo. It's makes me sad to say it, since I was so hyped for Apo originally, but it's true.
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>>144332360
Absolutely. The anime could put far greater emphasis on the war aspects of Apocrypha, spend much more time with the interesting Red and Black teams, show a bit of backstory for them all, and it could split the focus from being almost entirely Sieg, Jeanne, and Astolfo. That'd rocket it up into being great.
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>>144333240
As if she'd love a fat fuck neet like you lmao tbqh senpai
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>>144330501
Is there any other source for this claim?
I have only seen this one being posted.
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>>144331475
5'7'' would be fucking giant size in the ancient world.
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>>144333094
Apocrypha is an irredeemable garbage unless sieg die.
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>>144333667
I like how Jeanne was supposed to be impartial, but that went out the window when she teamed up with Sieg. She actively got involved in the war in interest of stopping one master directly.
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>>144333715
Because she's evil.
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>>144332831
If we are talking about servants then pic realated.
If not, I will go with Illya.
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>>144333620
>>144333649
And then ended up powering up, guess who? Sieg.
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>>144333942
The character who describes her as huge the most, other then herself, is Shirou. Height averages have only increased by like 10~ cms in the last 2000 years as well.
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>>144332950

Shuten shouldn't even be a fucking Assassin in the first place. Caster or Berserker. DW fucked her shit all up just because they want their Golden Boy to remain peerless.
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>>144333746
I think she is much less hard ass stick in the mud than Saber. She isn't a clone personality wise
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>>144334052
Because that one master was violating the rules by being alive.
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>>144334150
You disgusting lolicon.
I want Illya too, but you can keep the book, I love my daughteru.
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>Siegfried hyped up as this powerhouse as long as nobody finds out about his power he is the entire cornerstone of the Black faction's strategy
>j/k he suicides because his master is a fuckhead and because Astolfo cried over his homunculus friend who he knew for 5 seconds
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>>144333861
https://news.fate-extella.jp/
https://twitter.com/FateEXTELLA/status/738651039008575490
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Is Hernán Cortés going to be the Grand Raider?
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>>144334328
>Raider
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>>144334328
Rider, you mean?
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Can Emiya beat Sieg?
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>>144334257
She isn't a perfect clone but she's based on Saber. Saber isn't serious all the time and Jeanne spends most of France dead serious.

Higashide did the same thing in Princess Waltz.
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>>144330501

B T F O
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>>144334219
Shirou being the guy who shoots up 20cm after leaving high school somehow.
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You can make one change to make Apocrypha better.
You can't remove Sieg.
What do?
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>>144333227
>>144333327
>>144333496
>>144333667
>>144334030
So the problem is Sieg being the MC and, as an MC of a Shōnen work, having all the events and characters rotate around him while not being very interesting by himself? I think I understand the general opinion on the story, now I just need to wait for the translation so I can get my own opinions too.
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>>144334293
CENSORSHIP, YES!
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What in the actual fuck is this horse shit?
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>>144332831
Chibi Gudako. This isn't even debatable.
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>>144334469
Is Arondight literally affecting reality to the degree where it can never be depicted in a non-bent state?
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>>144334293
There goes my hope in it being fake.
Fuck everyone who complained, Nazi Gil was great.
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>>144334450
He's powerful.
Don't think he can beat a mary sue tho.
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>>144334508
Let Amakusa win in the end
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>>144334508
Remove Jeanne.
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>>144334524
>and, as an MC of a Shōnen work, having all the events and characters rotate around him
You can have a shounen MC who doesn't suck up and absorb all the other characters. People literally kill themselves so Sieg can take their place in the story.
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>>144334650
No
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>>144334508
Kill Sieg
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The eternal debate

Team Red or Team Blue
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>>144334197
Wait, how does a dead Frank power up Sieg?
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>>144334628
Doing the Lord's work, son of man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_uVEd-ApE
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>>144334445
>>144334392
Woops, Yeah got it wrong.
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>>144334508
Let Siegfried live
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>>144334508
>You can make one change to make Apocrypha better except the one change that would make it better
Okay
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>>144334524
Siegfried is literally hyped up as a big deal only to suicide after fighting once so Sieg can become a generic shounen MC and hijack the story
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>>144334762
She revives inside his body and gives him the power of yet another Servant
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>>144334508
>You can make one change to make Apocrypha better.
>You can't remove Sieg.
Impossible.
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>>144334760
>Team Cuck or Team Cuck
I choose death
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>>144334571
Thats a decimal anon, never seen one?
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>>144334589
Blame the gooks. They even falseflagged as japs to put more pressure on them, because nobody except them gives a single shit.
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>>144327735
Fuck you i got her
To me it's a sign that i must roll when i'm really feeling it
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>>144334571
>doesn't know about Arts multiplier

Fucking kill yourself retard
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>>144334281
She isn't your daughteru, she is my wife.
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>>144334760

>Blue

I'm taking the Rainbow colored team thanks
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>>144334508
Siegfried lets Sieg die and doesn't donate his heart

there I fixed it
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>>144334852
Siegfried fought against both Achilles and Karna.

Although his master fucked up one of those fights, so it wasn't much of a fight.
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>Sieg was a homunculus, and his communication experience was practically zero except for with Rider.
>However, even so, he understood enough to know the appropriate distance between people when they spoke to one another. Ruler was consciously distancing herself from Sieg. The distance between them was about three meters. Rather, she was hiding herself behind the room’s door and wouldn't come out from there.
>“Why are you so far away?”
>“Ah, err. It seems that Laeticia inside me is bad with men, so I can’t interact normally with you unless I maintain this distance—”
>Ruler spoke apologetically… but she stayed hidden behind the door.

>“I’ll sleep on the floor, so you—”
>“I don’t mind sleeping on the floor, though.”
>“B-But. Based on what you said, Sieg-kun, you haven’t slept at all since last night, right?”
>“That’s true. But perhaps thanks to this heart, I don’t feel that tired.”
>“That’s a lie. You look totally exhausted. I’m a Heroic Spirit, so it’s no problem for me.”
>“No, but you said just earlier that you have to eat and sleep. You should sleep on the bed for the sake of the girl whose body you’re using as well.”
>“Guh, it’s unfair to bring up Laeticia as an excuse—Then, how about we at least sleep together?”
>“The bed is narrow. We’d be glued to each other. Laeticia hates men, right?”
>“No, it’s fine. She may be inexperienced with men, but she’s a girl that truly feels that it’s bad to be heartless. She has no objections to sleeping together.”
>“…Don’t you feel embarrassed?”
>Ruler turned silent and averted her eyes while blushing.
>“…I’m fine.”
>Since she said she was fine, she was probably fine. Sieg finally agreed to it, and the two of them somehow managed to lay their bodies together on the narrow bed. It was cramped, but fatigue settled into them like a log, and they couldn't help feeling sleepy.
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>>144334863
>>144334834
You can make Apoc better without removing Sieg, but you can't make it good without removing Sieg.
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>>144334760
Mumei side
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>>144332103
>even /a/ hates it
The it must be good.
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>>144328135
>Jamil-kun
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>>144334803
Get the fuck out Lawfulfag
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>>144334508
Sieg, Jeanne and Astolfo aren't the focus of attention.
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>>144334508
Siegfried stays in Sieg's head as 2nd personality and go full card game versus Amakusa Marik
It won't change much, but maybe it could be more amusing
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>>144334879
>choosing one character over another means you have to fall in love with them and watch them have sex with their actual love interest
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>>144335024
>Not realizing he's red
>Not realizing Arthuria is blue

Red vs Blue rivalry comes in unlimited forms
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>>144334468
I think being based off her is okay. I honestly think that without Sieg, her character would be great, at least in my opinion.

The whole beginning section with her was amazing, fun, and light hearted. The way a Saint should make you feel. Hell I would've been fine with her teaming up with other people and going against Amakusa since his existence was against the rules, but Sieg's romance shit is completely irredeemable.
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>>144335009
Higashide should be banned from writing romance.
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>>144335009
>And then they had lots of sex after that
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>>144334524
If all of Sieg stuff would have stay as a sidestory instead of it hijacking the whole story, he wouldn't be so hated.
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>>144335009
delete this shit
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>>144335127
>Focus of every Sieg and Jeanne scene is Laeticia and Siegfried having conversations while floating above them
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>>144334760
I will take Atilla side.
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>>144334760
Team Gold is the only answer.
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>tfw you cum every time the Bride hits art crits with fully upgraded Stars for the Sky to get full NP
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>>144334803
>lawfags
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>>144335156
>I honestly think that without Sieg, her character would be great, at least in my opinion.
Sieg isn't in GO (yet) and Jannu is still boring and pushed over more interesting characters to the point where it's grating.
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>>144334571
Are you new? All Arts NP with 450% base multiplier are like that.
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>>144335284
umu
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>>144334760
Team EMIYA.

Always bet on brother EMIYA.

>>144335081
>>144335291
Funny, I'm a Chaosfag.
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>>144335010
At the end of the day, even if he can't be removed, most improvements would ptobably come from changing his character in some way anyways.

Like making it so that he never meets Jeanne, or that he survives without needing a jury-rigged heart from Siegfried and thus never gains Servant abilities.
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>>144335284
>Arts crits

I've been playing for months and never realized that was relevant. Does critting actually give more NP?
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>>144335332
>Chaosfag

Retard confirmed

Neutral is the only path. No neutral doesn't mean being wishy washy, it means fighting everyone and now bowing before either side.
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Is she going to be Atilla's wife?
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>>144335301
I don't think so. I think its the fact that Orleans was written poorly and that Jeanne Alter stole the show because she was a new servant.

I like Jeanne as she is in FGO, but that doesn't change the fact the character itself is ruined by her first debut appearance.
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I feel like I should be happy I pulled 4 4* servants in the 20ish singles I have done since the event started but not having the slutty oni makes me sad.


Also it seems that upgrading NP past lv 2 isn't really worth it besides for showing off.

>>144335441
yes critting with an arts card gives a bunch more charge.
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>>144335553
That's a really nice dress.
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Ataraxia anime WHEN?
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>>144335441
The only way you could not notice is if you were blind or a cheatapk faggot.
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>>144335553
EVERYONE WILL
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>>144335553
>is attila going to be her wife?
FTFY
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>>144335441
Yeah, I do it with Gil all the time and build his NP super fast
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>>144334508
I honestly don't think Sieg is that bad of an idea. A homunculus trying to break free and live is interesting, the problem is how they went about it. Siegfried killing himself to save him is dumb, but if Sieg just goes to be a Master in a support role like Fate route Shirou it wouldn't be too bad. Don't shift the focus onto him and don't get him romantically involved with Jeanne and it's fine. I think the worst parts of Apoc were actually the points were Higashide just ripped elements from other Fate stories and played them off as new, like the Solomon fight being Gilles 2.0 from Zero. Do some more interesting shit with the fucking characters you hack
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>>144335553
Look at Atilla on the main cover, looking like an evil giant.

Clearly she looks like the ultimate enemy. She probably hijacked the Mooncell in order to end bad civilization once and for all.
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>>144335441
Yes.
Critting give more bonus depends on cards.
Buster crit is double damage,Arts crit give more NP gain and Quick crit give more stars.
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>>144335127
I summon RED EYES BLACK (clothed) ARYAN! >>144330426
I wish.
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>>144335576
Most of Orleans was alright. Jeanne Alter and Gilles, Marie and so forth. Jeanne really was the major influence bringing it down, and she was the main sidekick too.

She was also being written by her primary author in France. The bland Jeanne in France is her default depiction as a character. Sieg makes her even worse but it isn't just Sieg.

You can chalk that up to Higashide if you want but it's a moot point now because unless Higashide dies he is in charge of Jeanne.
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>>144335645
I don't use any arts focused servants so it's never been relevant to me. Good to know for the future though.
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Is Team Horta best team?
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>tfw no Helena of my own
;_;
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>>144335448
I'll admit that Neutral has it's perks.
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>>144335441

well I wasn't even talking about that, it's just the distinctive SOUND of it is music to my ears, and since the boost is 45% you just know it's gonna fill up
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>>144335692
I think part of the problem is that Higashide doesn't seem to be able to handle an ensemble cast in general.
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>>144335553
>Hakuno cucks Guda
I hate it
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Higashide is a hack
Sakurai is a hack
Urobutcher is an edgy hack
Nasu a hack

Narita please save us
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>>144335861
>tfw have Helena but don't have NR
;_;
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>>144336049
Narita is a hack.
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>>144335598

>tfw got two extra Cats during Fran's rate up and later a third one

I'm happy with the clearing damage but damn really RNG? really?
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>>144336049
Official TM writer tier list

Narita>>Butcher>=Nasu>Sakurai>>Higashide
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Finally, here it is, the strongest book I can make.
I finally won, what's my prize?
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Does Sieg even has a character to speak off? What are his motivation and his objective after getting the cardiac surgery?
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>>144336049
>Naritafags
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>>144336049
>Sakurai is a hack
>Nasu a hack
But that's wrong, anon.
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>>144335964
The problem is that Apoc should have been written by Narita, who's very capable of writing a large amount of characters and doing it well without having a "main" character. Higashide pushing Sieg as the main character is the main problem, whereas if he'd remained as a support Master with Siegfried still existing it would have lead to a far greater payoff in the end with Karna and Siegfried actually fighting, and less horseshit about him being the bestest and most perfect ever.
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>>144336049
>>144336159
>>144336190
Good thing we have Sanda in charge of Case Files.
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>>144336190
Narita>>Nasu>Sakurai>>>>Butcher=Higashide
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>>144335009
I'd rather have Ruler being raped by Gilles for all eternity than she being together with sieg.
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>>144335968
Samefag, people just overthink this shit.

They're both self-inserts; when you're playing as Guda you are guda, when you're playing as Haku you are haku, but you are the player regardless. You can waifu these shits in some form at least.

No one is ever being cucked, that's just a word thrown around since its the new hotness. People introduce Tamamo as proof, despite how they could have claimed cuck no matter what she did in that situation. There was never a way to win that one, the fact that she remained faithful to her first love isn't proof that she "cucked you" when you were never in a relationship with her as guda. In fact it would be the exact opposite as cucking.
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>>144335804
I mean I really don't think you can mess Gilles up. He is super easy character to depict. Jeanne Alter is just an edgy form of Jeanne so people will eat that shit up.

People forget that Jeanne, Jing Ke, Vlad, Carmilla, and Artemis was in Orleans. Which is mostly because of bad writing. I think a character can be good if the story permits it. The base character of Jeanne herself is fine, but the way the story advanced it made it go down in quality.
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>>144336089
>Only having 1 loli
It's truly suffering.

Why'd the latest one have to be an assassin too?
Can't have both her and Jack on support if we ever manage to roll them.
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>>144336209
Let my people go
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>>144336209
It's about finding himself and a purpose, something acting as a contrast to Shirou deciding humanity's fate himself or something.
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>>144336209
Save his homunculus pals
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>>144336203
it's only the strongest book with np5, are you dedicated enough, anon?
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>>144336310
>Artemis was in Orleans
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>>144336267
This desu
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>>144336190
>butcher greater than nasu
>sakurai greater than higashide

I'll admit he's not good, but Sakurai is the worst thing to happen to type moon. At least Higashide's Orders are good, Rome and London were awful.
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>>144336308
>Hakuno is a self-insert
STOP

THIS

FUCKING

MEME
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>>144336401
I meant Atalanta, sorry I suck massive cocks.
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>cucked by Hakuno
This is amazing
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>>144336267
>implying butcher is bad
lol wahhh "muh edge DDDXXX"
pussy faggot
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>>144335009
>“Hey, wait a minute.”
>“Yes, what is it, Sieg-kun?”
>“…No, why are you adding [kun] to the end of my name?”
>“Because Sieg is younger than me, right? So I don’t think there’s any problem with using [kun]. Do you dislike it?”
>“Ah, I don’t really—dislike it, I think, but…”
>I don’t think I dislike it, but something seems wrong about it… Sieg wanted to say that, but since that ‘something’ was too vague for him to articulate, he couldn't raise any objections.

Reminder that neither of these characters is Nipponese or even fluent in Nihongo.
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>>144336418
Sakurai gave us the perfection that is Manaka :^)
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>>144336209
He wants to free the other homunculi. After that, Chiron, Astolfo, Siegfried, and Jeanne all influenced him enough that he decided he wanted to help fight against Amakusa.
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>>144336418
London is better then France, and Sakurai is hands down the more talented author. Comparing Gahkthun and Princess Waltz is just a savage beatdown. Sakurai has fucked up once on a single chapter, Higashide was fucked up multiple times on way bigger projects.

You also have to remember that Nasu has written a third to a half of every single order.
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>>144336308
Tamamo does have a relationship with Guda though, way to totally misinterpret her Valentines lines.
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>>144336460
Weren't they referred as yourself back then?
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>>144336418
>London
>awful
At least Sakurai wanked a couple of right characters. Higashide only ever wrote trash
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>>144336396
I'm f2p, can't really roll the gatcha whenever until I obtain 5 copies of her.
I did the best I could though.
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>>144336209
Imagine Fate route Shirou except with even more autism and replace swords with dragons.
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>>144336049
for now Strange fake is pretty good the characters are very interesting and has equal appearances in the series.

I don't even know who to root for.
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>>144336545
You can't really blame them for language differences. God knows why waver or Kayneth can speak nihongo
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>>144336589
Sakurai fucked up in all of Fragments. And London is only better than France because of the big reveal of Solomon and the Grands.
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>>144336615
>back then
nice source
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>>144336190
Nasu>Narita>Sakurai>Higashide>>>>Bitcher
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So when will we start getting Ibaraki-doujin as a Servant?
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What LN author would you like to see writing a story for TM?
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>>144336460
>Hakuno isn't a self-insert
STOP

THIS

FUCKING

MEME
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>>144336049
>Gilfag
He is the worst of the bunch

>>144336190
>Gilfag writer first
Spotted the Gilfag

REAL Official TM writer tier list
Butcher > Sakurai >= Higashide (it was Nasu the one who ruined Apocrypha w8th the Seig shit) >>>>>>>>>>> Nasu > Narita
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>>144336750
Id love to read some Ibaraki doujin.
H-doujin especially.
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>>144336321
>>144336391
>>144336579
Seems pretty boring desu, does he even has a reason to do it other than "they are like me"?
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>>144336750
Apparently after we defeat her she will appear in gacha
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>>144336721
>Sakurai fucked up in all of Fragments.
Fragments is alright, Manaka is an awful character but Sakurai didn't come up with her. It's also far better then Apocrypha.

And London is just straight up better then France, not just the ending.
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>>144336308
The difference is that Hakuno isn't a self-insert so cucking some fucking AI who fucked off to be with Sakura in the first place doesn't really matter to me
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>>144336737
If i remember right, the typemoon wiki.

But, then again:

>wiki
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>>144336649
Meanwhile Nasu wrote America, and he's at least fun with his bullshit.

Narita understands how this bullshit is supposed to work. The stranger it sounds from above, often the better the story is with Fate. Its the odd or flat out weird shit that can be the most fun. Keep going further with it, don't do it in a dry manner.
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>>144336545
>Ruler puffed up her chest proudly. I think this way of talking is referred to as ‘acting like a senpai’, Sieg remembered.
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>>144336308
Everyone already knows this the cuckmemers are just baiting with Haku.
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>>144336418
>London were awful

Not as fucked up as Orleans.
I maybe biased since there Andersen
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>>144336864
He was born like a day before so not really
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>>144336781
They have their own thoughts, actions, answers and feelings. You aren't them just because you can name them.
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>>144336589
Sakurai gave us the dull mess that id all of Fragments.

Certainly, the outcome of the war was a foregone conclusion since it has to end with Manaka winning and being impaled by Arthur, but that doesn't mean everything leading up to that has to be a boring curbstomp on her part.
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>>144336769
Reki Kawahara
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>>144336968
Fragments is much better then Apocrypha.
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>>144336781
>>144336914
>start with a default name unlike Guda
>official manga that gives them a personality
>have defined personality, defined reactions, defined thoughts and likes/dislikes/skills in the games anyway
>are a fucking AI with specific objectives to them

T-they're totally a self-insert guys
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>>144336968
>dull mess
You're retarded, Fragments only has one legit trash character and that is Manaka with her plot armor.
Apocrypha has Sieg, Astolfo and Jeanne literally making the whole story shittier by the second.
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>>144336931
>They have their own thoughts, actions, answers and feelings.
Keep trying to bait, retard.
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>>144336769
Kamachi.
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>>144336251
Are you fucking kidding me? People are still trying to claim that Nasu isn't a hack? Fuck off, you retarded faggot.
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>its a 'Hakuno has a personality' thread
Preferred cuckposting desu
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>>144337075
Are you going to fucking deny it? Did you even play Extra?
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>Hakuno lacked a default name in Fate/Extra, and they were simply referred to as "Yourself" in promotional materials.
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>>144337234
>Hakuno lacked a default name in Fate/Extra
It's funny how you retards think that this is evidence of them being a self-insert when it's actually just part of Nasu's narrative to shit on self-inserts when Hakuno is like "Oh yeah fuck that me on Earth I'm not him aka (You)"
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>>144336705
Waver actually can't.
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>>144337040
>>official manga that gives them a personality
We're talking about the game here, retard.
>>144337040

>>have defined personality, defined reactions, defined thoughts and likes/dislikes/skills in the games anyway
Tfw everyone calls Haku a NPC lookalike because there isn't anything there more than half of the time.

>>are a fucking AI with specific objectives to them
Implying you can't insert into an AI
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>>144334571
>NP 1 to NP 2 buffs the NP's damage multiplier by 1/3 of the original value
>NP 2 to NP 3 buffs by half of that
>NP 3 to NP 4 buffs by half of THAT
>NP 4 to NP 5 buffs by the same amount as 3 to 4

Welcome to literally every damaging NP in the game.
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A cute!
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Sakurai's VNs are good.
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>>144336834
Gangbang where she handles all of our servants by herself when?

Three variations, 1BP has her easily captured and she wants it from the start, 2BP is a struggle and she has to be mindbroken, 3BP has her rape all our Servants before mindbreaking the Master
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>>144336798
>Gilfag
except strange fake Gil is a huge cuck you fucking moron.
>her master is brown loli
>his fight against enkidu got interrupted by Pale Rider
>Whining like a pussy during his fight against True Archer
>True Rider interrupted his fight against True Archer and told him to fuck off.
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>>144337475
>that total lack of an ass
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>>144337486
Such as?
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>>144337185
Yes, I think I just did. Yeah. Did you?

>>144337337
>Trying this hard for a meme and headcanon
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>>144337234
That was part of the twist, they acquired personalities in game after a while.
They stopped being blank. the game is about how their feelings, motivations and personalities are born.
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>>144336870
Ramesses is awful too. He has a nice design, but he's wanked in the worst way, especially considering that the historical Ramesses II was more associated with Set than Ra.
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>>144337405
>ignore the fact that they have a defined personality and interests


>>144337591
Seeing as you're ignoring Nasu's entire message the only one with headcanon here is you
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YES I FINALLY GET HER IT WAS WORTH SAVING MY QUARTZ UP UNTIL I FINISH LONDON

what are some nice servants to team up with her? i have atalanta, carmilla and robin, maybe with andersen?
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>>144337535
It's ok because Xabio has a cute chest.
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>>144337518
I missed the part where Gil watched Tine or Enkidu have sex with someone else.
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>>144337579
Gahkthun
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>>144337683
Waver
The answer is always Waver
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>>144337683
im jelly
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>>144334508
>Siegfried doesn't put his heart into Sieg and keeps living
>Instead, Astolfo dies protecting Sieg in the end of the 1st volume
>Sieg starts living in a village and doesn't appear in the story anymore
>Mordred and Shishigou become protagonists
>Black fight Red until volume 5
>Shirou realizes his plan isn't the right thing to do and gives up
>Semiramis is disappointed, but she is already in love with him
>Using the Grail she summons *servant_name* and fights everyone by herself
>in the end Shirou dies protecting Semi from the final blow
>she admits she has lost and kills herself
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>>144337683
How much quartz did you have saved? Or did you just roll every time you were at 4
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I should have maxed leveled Ushi for this
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>>144337673
>>ignore the fact that they have a defined personality and interests
Top kek

>>Seeing as you're ignoring Nasu's entire message the only one with headcanon here is you

I'm sorry for taking back, Nasu. I didn't know it was you on 4chan.
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>>144337337
Calm down, bucko.

I am aware that they can't be a self-insert when they have their own personality and say or do shit most of us wouldn't.

>>144337613
Makes sense, i suppose.
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>>144337405
The whole point of Hakuno's character is building a character.
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>>144337384
How does he do literally anything?
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>>144337613
The game is about "what does it mean to be human". In Hakuno's case its something he only developed along the way, rather than something he lost.

Kind of like that Simpsons episode where Bart lost his soul.
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>>144337579
Sharnoth
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>>144334508
Siegfried kills Gordes and makes a contract with Sieg instead. He decides that his wish is gonna be to allow Sieg to live a proper life. Astolfo and the Homunculus attempt to convince the rest of the black faction that Gordes is still alive in a Weekend at Bernie's type deal. The Black Team fighting the Red Team for a longass time, Mordred and Kairi faffing about and having father son bonding time. Jeanne tries to keep the war on track and save the innocent people. At the Red Faction HQ, Achilles acts as Karna's wingman in Karna's quest to win Siegfried's hand in marriage.
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>>144336769
Jin Haganeya too bad he's still pretending to be a girl
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>>144337838
>>144337673
>>144337185
>>144337040
>>144336931
>>144335968
Samefaging this much
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>>144337992
Yes and?
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>>144337683
>what are some nice servants to team up with her?

Other big breasted servants.
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>>144337875
The same way as any tourist. That's why he's staying with Canadians. Alex can speak Japanese, so he translates in the drama CD wher they meet Taiga.
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>>144337749
oh yeah i think i have some Waver friends, then what's the third?

>>144337818
started playing at that Kyoukai no Kanata event and i have 198 quartz and lots of tickets
got her on my 4th ticket after David
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>>144337613
Hakuno self-insertfags FUCKING DESTROYED

Enjoy getting cucked in Extella retards
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>>144333240
What's her personality like?
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>>144337875
He talks to literally one Japanese person in Zero, and that person speaks English.
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>>144338051
Shit is cute
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>only gold Servant is Fionn mac whatever
Even fucking Liz would be preferable
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
Nigga
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
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wew lad
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>>144338101
Fuyukai desu.
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata

*Triggered*
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>>144338101

>Kyoukai no Kanata

smugredman.jpg
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>>144337992
That's all in the same line of responses, Ii don't get your point.
It makes sense for it to be the same anon.
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>>144337824
Oni Slayer. Was afraid she wasn't gonna make it with only 4 Kintoki CE boosts and no Ushi CE but she pulls through with QBC
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>>144337683
There are two really effective options you have with her.

The first is to stick her on a Quick team and let her fuck everything up with crits. Atalanta and a support Jack would facilitate that.

The other is to team her up with Jeanne Alter and other Dragons, especially ones like Arturia or Saber Alter or Liz with their own Charisma, and just smash everything by stacking buffs. Or you can alternate two level 6 or higher Charismas (and/or Dragon Witch) for permanent ATK buff uptime.
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>>144336721
Fragments isn't terrible. It's a mix of some good stuff and some really dumb shit. Sakurai is to blame for stuff like the dull narration praising Manaka and for not really doing much world building and for keeping the plot progression fairly predictable after the characters had been introduced. But it's also worth noting that Manaka isn't Sakurai's character and excluding her from a story about how she wins the war isn't the easiest thing to do.

And Sakurai obviously did try to do something about the story being predictable, what with it having an ending set in stone, by jumping back and forth between viewpoints and going up and down the timeline to tell you as much about why things happened as about what happened. I don't think he really manages to pull that off, but it's easy to see that he at least tried.
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>>144337683
Congrats on getting best girl Anon, now level the crap out of her and strip that armor
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>>144338209
>2BP
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
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>>144338339
Am I the only one who thinks she looks much better with the full armour on?
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
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>>144338448
Yes anon, you're such a special snowflake.
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
>>
>>144338175
Fionn is far better than Liz
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>>144338136
Who? I'm trying to remember.
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>>144337683
>>144338101

Waver/Andersen,Leonidas,Lancer Alter works pretty good.

Also
>Kyoukai no Kanata
>>
>>144338448
>>>/reddit/
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>>144338448
I think so too.
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>>144338101
>Kyoukai no Kanata
>>
>>144338448
No retard, she's hideous. Of course the armor looks better.
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>>144338448
>Am I the only one
No, you're never the only one at anything. Stop this stupid shit.
>>
What class would Finn Balor be?
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>>144338136
What about the old couple he lived with?
>>
>>144338542
Kerry
>>
>>144338321
>he
>>
So what other GO servants will appear in Extella and get cucked away from us by Hakuno aside from Attila?
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>>144338583
Shit taste detected.
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>>144338375
>wasting 3 hours of my time to attempt to kill a boss that will likely one-shot my Servants
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>>144338627
They're Canadian desu
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>>144338209
Post damage.
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>>144338662
Yes, from you.
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>>144338448

>Am I the only one-

>>>/reddit/
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>>144338627
The Canadians?
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>>144337518
He accepted being a Gilfag. Anything he can possibly make is shit just based on that fact alone.

Accel Zero showed us the best way Gilgamesh should be used, as a mid boss that gets 3 lines at most and gets fucked by superior Servants.
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>>144338659
>cucked away from us
>us
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Can he do it?
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>>144338659
The servant in your room
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I really hope raid events are not common or they come up with a better gimmick. This is horrid.
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>>144338529
It's not about gameplay
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>>144338101

>Kyoukai no Kanata

oh no here comes another saber and gimped berserkers...
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>>144338702
>being this bad at a fucking mobage
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>>144338828
>2 turns
Should be doable, even without the obvious command spell.
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>>144338869
Liz is a shit character too
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>>144338803
>>144338719
Weren't they from Australia?
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>>144338814

This, it baffled my mind that some people think he's top tier.
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>>144338983
No?
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>>144338912
>defending RNG in a mobage literally designed to bait you into buying refills
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>>144338851
Making the boss not a Berserker and keeping everything else the same might help. Making them an Avenger or maybe a Ruler with less HP would probably work, as would of course making them a Shielder. Or just make a unique class that's neutral to everything but Berserkers both ways.
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>>144338978
She's cute.
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>>144338869
Yes and?
Fionn is a better character too and hilarious in his own way in Murica.
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>>144338828
How the fuck are you doing that with trash 3* Servants? Cheat APK?
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Is the best place to farm gourds 1bp as long as you stack gourd+ CE?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10385376

Reminder to vote
>First day of the event the thread was going by at much higher posts per hour
>A lot of them were asking for cheatapk till someone posted about it
>number of people who vote they were cheating drops off greatly meaning they fucked off after getting it

Are people too scared to talk about it on reddit and come here I wonder? I'm not sure if you can talk about it on there so it's what I assume.
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>>144338916
>>144339147
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>>144339056
You can get 600% damage compared to the 2BP at the 150% cost.

Fucking worth it much?
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>>144339152
2BP
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>>144339147
Are you retarded? They're back row Servants. You don't have anywhere NEAR enough cost to shove nothing but golds on your team and give them all event CEs.
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>>144339197
That doesn't answer my question. Did you use cheat APK?
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>>144339056
If you intend to only do 2BP and get all the rewards, you literally have to use refills. Even if you fail 3BP like half the time and only survive the other half, as long as you do a decent amount of damage, you will outperform someone only doing 2BP. git gud
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>>144339047
Glen Mackenzie [Person's name]
A 72 year old man from Australia. Thanks to hypnosis, Waver was able to use him for free room and board during the Fourth Holy Grail War.
In his younger days he was a hotshot businessman, and moved his family to Japan as part of his job. However, he ended up being so taken with Fuyuki that he decided to live there permanently. He retired from his company and started up his own independent import-export business.
But though his management ability was solid, he had no great ambitions as a trader. He worked for forty long years, avoiding pitfalls and bankruptcy, and passed the company on to a successor as soon as he had enough money saved. Now he passes his days in quiet tranquility, working part-time as a teacher at an English conversation school.
His son Chris had been in elementary school when they moved, and while he enjoyed life in Japan he also felt a strong attraction to his roots and wanted his son to be educated in Australia. In the end, Chris' family moved back to Toronto soon after the birth of their child and gradually fell out of contact with Glen and his wife, until eventually they barely ever heard from each other at all.

Fate/Zero material - Encyclopedia: Glen Mackenzie [Person's name], p.094
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>>144338983
They're from a city that shares the name with one in Australia.
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>>144339294
Not me. Silver team + Waver support beats 3BP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D86x2k3rjuk
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>>144338101
i fucked up didn't i
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>>144339198
Considering that the boss can randomly decide to crit and kill your damage dealers from full health and use her NP to cancel your revives and invuln, no, it's not worth it
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>>144339168

I honestly don't know if it was some guy samefagging for shitposting purpose or some people that really think 4chan is some h4ck l337 place where you can find anything.
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>>144339147
>>144339294
By not being a retard
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>>144338498
>>144338554
>>144338609
>>144338762
Not him, but look at all these redditors or wherever they come from trying to detract from what was an actual, on-topic discussion regarding character design. Fuck off the lot of you if you're not going to contribute anything worthwhile to the thread.
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>>144339369
>>144339147
Just how bad at the game are you?
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>>144339357
>>144339303
Nevermind, had that backwards
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>>144339303
>Australia
>Toronto
Something here is mistranslated.
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>>144339434
>not having 95% to 100% win rate
Git gud. It's worth it.
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>>144339524
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto,_New_South_Wales
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>>144339524
No, there's actually a city in Australia called Toronto.
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>>144339490
Meant for>>144339294
not>>144339369
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>>144339556
My apologies for not having the correct 5* Servants to clear
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>>144338321
Perhaps Manaka should have been made a sort of hyper threatening boss-type character instead. Someone that's "avoid at all cost" tier imposing whenever she appears and only seen through the perspective of other characters, like an overpowered enemy in a video game you can only run from rather than fight. Set her up as the final boss antagonist in the background and instead focus on everyone else's roles and characters.

Might be a way to establish Manaka as being dangerous and powerful without just showing her walking over the whole war.
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>>144339524
t. amerifat
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>>144339582
>>144339570
It's not a city, it's a suburb. I find it difficult to believe they namedropped the specific suburb.
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>>144339827
>durrr
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>>144339682
Do you really expect anyone not in Australia to know there's a Toronto down under?

I bet you don't know there are over 20 cities, towns, and "unincorporated communities" named Paris in the United States.
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>>144339490
>>144339460
>>144339289
>he doesn't burn all non golds
It's like you faggots don't know what a mobage is
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>>144339671
>Might be a way to establish Manaka as being dangerous and powerful without just showing her walking over the whole war.
Thia doesn't work though. Lancelot and Gilgamesh were both handled in a similar way and thanks to that you have memers going around saying they are shit.

I rather have people bitch about MUH MARY SUE than shitpostinc about losing to kids or little girls, despite their defeats not even being their fault.
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>>144339168
>mfw I'm the only one who voted as a cheater
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>>144339901
What a great comeback.
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>>144337508
>mindbroken

Trash.
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>ARU G DONO
She is so cute. I wish I was Aniue
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>>144339953
>I'm uneducated, so fuck you
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If Chaldea exists outside of time doesn't that mean Guda is cucking Hakuno harder than they're cucking Guda?
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Has this been posted yet?
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>>144339987
So you are very retarded? Okay.
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>>144340067
You can't reasonably expect someone to know the name of every city in every country in the world. There are millions of them.
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>>144340062
I wish I was anime too
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>>144340070
Thank you Fatal Pulse.

He hasn't done an FGO doujin yet. This would be the perfect subject for him to do so.
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>>144340067
>not knowing the name of a suburb of a random city in Australia is uneducated
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>>144340070
Good old Asanagi.
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>>144340070
This artstyle has the most punchable faces.
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Is the 1bp or 2bp quest better for gourd farming?
Also, which is the best ap daily quest for getting blue skill gems?
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>>144340171
It's not even a city.
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>>144338339
>strip the armor
Shit taste waifushitter confirmed. Fuck off.
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>>144339447
See this is what I assumed at first too

But then people who vote they cheat wouldn't disappear that way, maybe you could argue they cheated only till they got CEs which I mean sure, but we had way more votes on the first pool made in no time at all, I expected us to have a lot of irregulars that jump in on releases, it was just weird how common the topic was. Either way it's interesting.
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>>144340067
>Australian THIS assblasted that nobody knows about some literal where town.
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>>144338101
I didn't know there were people this reddit here
It's a new record of being retarded.
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>>144340078
>some shit non rare servant that be rolled any time
>not converting it into prisms
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>>144340537
What makes you think that wasn't a carefully concocted ploy to farm (You)s?
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>>144340569
What is it like being this much of an obnoxious shitposting twat that only plays collectible girls games to get "the best units"
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>>144340569
How are they shit when they are beating 3BP to the point that you just assumed cheats were being used? Whales sure are retarded.
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>>144331352
I already see it.

Class: Berserker
Rarity: 4*
Deck: QABBB

Skills:
Mystic Eyes:
AoE stun

Monstrous strength:
One-turn attack up

Demon Lord:
Crit weight and damage up

NP:
Breaker Gorgon
AoE damage
AoE attack down
AoE def down
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>>144339671
>instead focus on everyone else's roles and characters.
That's sort of already the case, though. Manaka either shows up very briefly or doesn't even appear at all in most of the chapters in each volume. The story is by and large told through the perspectives of other characters.

This is actually sort of a problem in itself, because most of the other named characters are explored and developed while Manaka's character remains relatively flat throughout the series so far.
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>install MEmu yesterday
>everything fine
>try to play today
>it makes windows crash
Help ;_;
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>>144340778
>I was only pretending to be retarded
You can stop your damage control
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>>144340392
>Is the 1bp or 2bp quest better for gourd farming?
2bp of course
>Also, which is the best ap daily quest for getting blue skill gems?
Check their drop rates. Probably in the OP
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>>144340784
>obvious husbandofag assblasted his gay taste isnt gold

>>144340794
Scat Jack + double Waver is all you need to clear 3bp. Or Jeanne Alter. It doesnt even require some shit units. Only poorfags uses non golds.
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>>144340256
What is Google?
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>>144339369
WAIT

robin can still hit for millions? i thought he was nerfed
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>>144340802
>4*
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>>144341029
>projecting this hard
Good god, I didn't know this level of shitposting was possible
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>>144340070
Aside from great hips and thighs her design is crap
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What kind of teams does Martha fit on? Her NP being Buster limits her from Arts team and three Arts cards limits her from buster. I could be wrong.
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>>144340023
>despite their defeats not even being their fault.
Gil losing to Shirou was completely Gil's fault, though.
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>>144341029
I doubt you beat it with the way you reacted to that video.
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>>144331464
I'm a newfag, why does everyone hate Apocrypha?
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>>144341375

this question was just answered recently
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>>144341375
Something about a trap and an autistic Adonis.
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>>144341243
Arts, but she does a shit job anyway so you are better with any other Rider.
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>>144341375
The thread just talked about it for like an hour
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>>144341375
Wasted potential, trap memes, sieg
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>>144341375
Read the thread
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My first 3BP kill!

Just took a fully maxed 2 NP Jeanne Alter, Waver, Medusa, vanilla Jeanne, 2 fully Ascended Kintoki CEs and 2 fully ascended Ushi CEs.

Not surprised Ibaraki went down on turn 7 already.
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>>144341243
She is in low tier hell along with Emiya.
Her only use would be in an Arts healslut team and only to be strong against Casters. Which isn't needed, because those teams are usually Casters and are weak to Riders.
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>>144341375
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>>144341375
Same thing why everyone on 4chan hates everything. It's cool and edgy to be a contrarian. /a/ hates Fate now and /fgog/ hates all popular waifus.
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>>144341243
I'm still mad
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>>144341283
Avalon was an asspull that shouldn't happen 99% of the time. And Shirou beating Gilgamesh with human stats is retarded, EMIYA could, but a human with all stats less than E? No fucking way.

People still shitpost about Lancelot's defeat despite the fact that he had to fucking stop moving. You know someone is fucking broken when the author needs to make him stop doing anything in order to be defeated.
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>>144341948
>bringing up fucking stats
When people say stats are arbitrary and meaningless they aren't joking.
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>gorilla warfare against a 4*

getting tired...

do Masters of Assassin class servants feel like this?
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>>144341948
>Avalon was an asspull that shouldn't happen 99% of the time. And Shirou beating Gilgamesh with human stats is retarded, EMIYA could, but a human with all stats less than E? No fucking way.
Read the VN.
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>>144341784
You act like guys having measurements is a new thing.
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I hate Roman. He's really obnoxious, especially with those static sound effects and always butting in. Mikiya is better.
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>>144336314
>Only having 1 loli
Fuck you, I have none.
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>>144342198
At least he doesn't NTR you like Hakuno
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>>144341813
Yeah, that was bullshit. I think Sanson got it even worse in that batch, though. All it did was give his heal a debuff removal effect.
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>>144342245
>implying
What do you think your other servants do while you are out there saving the world?
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assuming i'm a retarded cuck who can only use Jeanne Alter from supports, what servants can i use to buff her up for destroying Ibaraki?
i can see her work well with Hans, but not having a Waver feels really shitty
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>>144342068
Stats can make a lot of difference as evidenced by Medusa vs EMIYA.

>>144342128
I did, it's even worse when Shirou implies he was using his own fucking skills and not the tracing, with the whole owner not wielder speech.
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>>144341375
You know how everyone hates SAO because it immediately devolves into just being about Kirito being a huge intolerable waifu fag with barely any story?
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>>144342427
>I did, it's even worse when Shirou implies he was using his own fucking skills and not the tracing, with the whole owner not wielder speech.
Seriously, read the VN.
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>>144342198
>I hate Roman.
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>evade buff misses
REEEEEEE
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>>144341948
>human stats
Sort of irrelevant when he's wielding NPs. Even as shit as he was mid-route, he could keep with Kuzuki who was low Servant level with the Medea buff.
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>>144342198
>I hate Roman
He's not a good guy
He's not a bad guy
He's THE guy
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>>144342427
Stats are only ever even referenced when Herc, Siegfried, or Medusa are involved, and Siegfried and Medusa have only ever been in one fight where the stat aspect is brought up. In Medusas case it wasn't even a fight.

Nothing between anyone in anything Fate has come down to stats. It is always, without exception, NPs. Stats are utterly meaningless.
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>>144341375
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>>144342539
>replying the same thing will somehow rewrite canon
I have probably read it more times than you have
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>>144342669
Grand Lancer when lads?
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>>144342797
So I guess using NL was also Shirou's own skill?
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>>144342740
>what is Gawain
Stats x3. What now?
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>>144340062
Yoshitsune when?
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>>144342740
Skills are a factor, too. Not all of them, but some of them
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>>144342964
You mean his NP? It also doesn't actually triple his stats when he uses it, he's just unkillable.
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>>144342897
Shirou traced there and stated he traced. Against Gilgamesh he was all "one trick pony owner not wielder".

He fucking said UBW wouldn't let him beat anyone else. If he traced, why did he mention that?
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>It is possible to complete 3rd difficulty mission using only bronze servants.
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Wew
30 AP daily, trying to get red cookies for Shuten.
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Double Waver and any arts NP servant that does damage makes 3bp flatteringly easy
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Breaking News
Nasu is a hack
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>>144342669
Kill yourself.
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>>144343121
>You mean his NP?
>It also doesn't actually triple his stats when he uses it
Wew I see I was talking with an ignorant retard the whole time. No wonder all you could do was say "read VN" like a parrot. You haven't read fucking shit.
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>>144343121
>Numeral of the Saint (聖者の数字, Seija no Sūji?) denotes that "3" is the sacred number of the Celts. Only during the three hours between 9 AM and midday and the three hours between 3 PM and sunset, one's power increases three-fold.
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>>144343235
It is. But these shitters would rather cry that it's too hard cause they didn't roll shit.
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>>144343121
>>144342964
Numeral of the Saint isn't an NP, and it doesn't make him unkillable. It just triples defense and power while under the sun for three hours a day.

>Numeral of the Saint [EX]
>A condition unique to Sir Gawain's existence. During the hours between 9am and 12pm and those between 3pm and sunset, all of his powers increase by a factor of three. This was related to the ancient belief that numeral "3" was the sacred number of the Celtic gods.

His defense can be broken while this power is active, but it would be stupidly hard to attempt considering even Lancelot gave up on trying and instead just waited out the timer on him. His defense reaches a point where he went through six rounds of a grail war without any real injuries.
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Mysterious fluffy haired rider.
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>>144343426
>>144343391
Siegfried could do it
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>>144343391
>>144343381
It doesn't triple his stats in narrative you idiots. He isn't three times faster and he doesn't hit three times harder, you just can't injure him.

His ability to boost all his abilities functionally just increases his defense. Whats more, that's his NP giving him a buff and is totally disconnected from his actual stats.
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>>144343332
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>>144343552
>lore says he is three times stronger
>durr it doesn't increase his stats and he doesn't hit harder
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>>144343171
Because Gil is not as good as the other 5th war servants at CQC.
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>>144343464
Perseus Jackson
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>>144343552
>still going even when proved to be an ignorant fuck
Just shut up bitch. It's not even a NP.
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>>144339671
>Set her up as the final boss antagonist
That's always been pretty obvious even if Prototype hadn't already specified how the first war ended.

>Might be a way to establish Manaka as being dangerous and powerful without just showing her walking over the whole war.
You know she doesn't ever actually do anything particularly broken in Fragments? Like, the most she ever shows off is by touching Assassin's poisonous body or by sneaking into Caster's backyard, where she is immediately discovered upon entry. She might do more stuff in Labyrinth, but in Fragments proper she herself doesn't do much heavy lifting. The other characters talk about how she could probably do more broken shit if she felt like it, but the fact is that she leaves most of the hard work to others.
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>>144343552
It isn't his NP, stop falseflagging. You're not this stupid.
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>>144343746
If he is tracing then he is getting the skill of the heroes that wielded the weapon. It would allow him to fight other Servants just fine. Against Gilgamesh he wasn't tracing stats/skills.
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>>144343685
What happens in the thing that Gawain is actually and the effects when he actually uses it is more important then background fluff. The "lore" is full of shit that isn't applied.
>>144343790
>>144343883
>only argument is it's not an NP
It being a skill doesn't change anything. Gawains stats are meaningless and arbitrary. He gets a triple boost to all his abilities that, when actually used, just raises his defense and what letters he has by his bars has nothing to do with that effect.

There isn't a single fight in the over a decade of Fate that comes down to stat ranks.
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>>144343426
>numeral meme
>couldn' do shit to Lancelot despite going Super Saiyan
>got his ass kicked the moment his buff was gone
WEW
E
W

How does it feel to be equal to Lancelot for only 6 hours a day?
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I'm so sick of this bullshit event
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>>144344359
>Lancelot had Arondight
How does it feel that both need turbo babby buffs to stay relevant against Arturia?
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>>144344359
Name one servant that Lancelot CAN'T beat
pro tip: you can't
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>>144344503
Mashu
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>>144344429
>not using double Waver to NP x2 every two turns making Ibaraki and the hands attack occasionally
>and when they do the defense buff from the wavers make them do 0 damage
Wew
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>>144344503
Me
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>>144344493
>Arturia only manages to dodge submachinegun instakill bullets with A AGI she normally doesn't have
>can't dodge Vulcan instakill bullets
WEW
E
W

>>144344503
Serious Nursery Lime.
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>>144344503
Mata Hari
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>>144343982
You should really read the scene. Shirou says very clearly that "he isn't thinking" during that fight.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>144344429
At least you didn't pick a support waver that wasn't on your friendlist by accident and then die with 1 turn remaining
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>>144344429
Just cheat
And Droid4x makes it look like shit for some reason.
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>>144344896
>instakill bullets
>never killed anyone
nice headcanon
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>>144344503
>Name one servant that Lancelot CAN'T beat
Can't think of any servant that he CAN beat. Even Angra Mainyu would win.
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>>144344998
Nobu a SHIT VOICE.
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>>144345053
Oh shit what are you doing
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>>144341948

Despite Arturia being completely demoralized to the point of not even trying to fight back anymore and Lancelot using Avalon to be at his strongest, Lancelot failed to even deal lasting damage to her and she could have used Excalibur to destroy him at any time.
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>>144345053
>all these 5*s
>can't beat 3BP
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>>144345072
>Instinct says they are instakill
Nice try waifufag
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>>144345229
Having 5* doesn't make it easier
There's a reason literally only 4 five stars have been considered relevant for this event
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>>144345053
That's because Droid4x is shit

>>144345229
Altera and Vlad are terrible for Oni
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>>144345053
Oh gacha, what are you doing?!
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>>144345260
Instinct says Kojiro is a God.
>waifufag
Not my fault you like shitters who need boosts to keep up with top tiers
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I just realized the Code Cast CE is really handy for 3-turn no-NP farming.
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>>144345361
>>144345356
>b-b-b-b-b-but
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>melvin call people waifufags
>he literally is waifufagging all the time
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>>144345223
>Lancelot using Avalon
What? Also Lancelot wanted to lose according to Consultation Room. He was actually going easy on Saber.

>Lancelot failed to even deal lasting damage
She was near death, read the LN. She couldn't even heal the wounds because of how severe they were. And that was all done in 10 seconds.

>she could have used Excalibur to destroy him at any time.
Dodged at point blank by D AGI Iskander and C AGI Gilgamesh
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Fluffy cape.
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What does the one wave battle hack do when played against Ibaraki? Does it deal no damage and just end it?
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>>144345452
>only being a shitty god
>a shit ass god that Scat can beat any day of the week
>scat is equal to Shumeme
>Shumeme doesn't have Martial Arts as Talents like Lancelot does
WEW
E
W
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>>144345817
Does that even exist anymore?
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>>144345817
I don't recall there being an one-wave hack for this event
You're welcome to try and make it, test it, and get banned in the process and then report back
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Is this the best account you can get for $10?
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>>144345865
>Chinese Martial Arts A+++
>EAM A+
A+++ >> A+
WEW
E
W
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>>144345072
>EA has never killed anyone
>Vasavi Shakti never killed anyone
So we can agree Enuma Elish is shit. And VS too.
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>>144345865
>he takes scat as a standard
>jobbed to dino cu
>only on the level of shumeme
It makes sense that you like Lancelot with such low standards
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>Leave the servants to me
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>>144346037
This account is haunted by blondes.
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>>144346041
>Chinese Martial Arts A+++
>Master among Masters

>EAM A+
>U N R I V A L E D

WEW
E
W

Shumeme wasn't even the one and only.
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>>144346115
Who?
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>>144346064
>EA has never killed anyone
wew secondary
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>>144346037
>level 1s
Enjoy grinding and wasting apples.
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>>144346263

>Unreturning Army: Stone Sentinel Maze ( 石兵八陣かえらずのじん , SekiheihachijinKaerazu no jin ?) is the Noble Phantasm of Zhuge Liang. A legendary military formation set by Zhuge Liang at the occasion when he decided for his army to take flight. Composed by huge rocks, said formation bewildered invaders and drove them to death
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>>144346256
>Chinese Martial Arts
>Confirmed master among masters

>EAM
>Said to be
>Said
>Literally anyone can have it if you think they are good

WEW
E
WEW
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>>144346064
>literally killed thousands of servant level of iskandar soldiers
Yeah never
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This is what I get, /fgog/. Lesson learned.
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>>144346440
All it did the one time it's been used is stall Deermud.
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>>144346037
Two crappy Sabers, no Archer, no Lancer, very good Rider, two best Casters, best Zerker, passable Assassin.
For 10 bucks, is good deal.
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>>144346256
>can't even bend space itself
Shit desu senpai
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>>144346518
This event is such garbage
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>>144346518
You probably could have won if you leveled your Jew.
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Is there anyone who could even possibly hope to defeat Lancelot?

And I'm not talking about Kariya's Berserker Lancelot. I'm not talking about Saber Lancelot from Grand/Order either. I'm talking about Dark Sakura's Berserker Lancelot, who is the only one that can supply enough mana to allow him to display his true stats from life that are EX rank in every stat, with access to the entire United States military arsenal, from firearms to military vehicles including F-22s and F-35s which are vastly superior to the F-15J he used in Fate/Zero, state-of-the-art DARPA weapons technology, and the entire nuclear arsenal, full incarnation due to touching grail mud which allows him to exist without a master and turns him into a runaway train without brakes due to how much mana he doesn't have to spend sustaining himself, the Key of Babylon which allows him to use Gilgamesh's treasury freely, Ea, and Enkidu which he all stole from Gilgamesh with Knight of Honor, Avalon which he took from Shirou after killing him like a bitch, Karna's armor which he took with Knight of Honor, Eye of the Mind (True) at rank A++ because of all his experience and prediction-based skill greater than any other hero in any legend ever that Nasu and Urobutcher forgot to include in Fate/Zero, which Mad Enhancement doesn't affect because it's so high ranked just like Eternal Arms Mastership, Arondight at its full unsealed power which can shoot beams that are at least equal to Excalibur (probably stronger though), Origin-boosted by the Mooncell into Grand Berserker to become capable of killing TYPEs including Archetype Earth with ease just like how Solomon could destroy time and space, and his eyes surgically replaced with Shiki Ryougi's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception which allow him to access the Root of all things and kill all concepts including Gaia itself if it pleases him.
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>>144346497
>Those with ranks exceeding A are considered true masters of the arts.
>are considered
WEW
E
WEW
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>>144346373
>wasting apples
>not taking it easy
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>>144346801
Enjoy no getting anything from the event and not even being able to clear 40AP XP quests.
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>>144346518
Added note, I was using Pirate Sluts and Karna as my damage dealers with Waver support. I used all the CS, 2 to fuel sluts' NP and one to heal Karna. I shouldn't have used the one to heal, I think I could've gotten her if I saved the one for a third slut NP.
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>>144346664
>could bend something that couldn't be damaged no matter the attack
Lancelot can reality warp. He bended Arondight to show off his powers.
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>>144336750
We don't. She's a gacha Servant.
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Is there anyone who could even possibly hope to cuck Hakuno?
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>>144346787
Just show him a picture of Arthur and execute his pathetic ass while he's having a meltdown
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>>144346940
This event gives nothing I don't already have anyway. I'm just farming gourds for the dragon fangs.
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>>144346772
Haven't had enough time, I'm splitting time between leveling several servants. I also brought along Cu and Mashu to defend.
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>>144347028
Me.
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>yfw assassin hands day
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>>144346787
Roman Reigns he's hasn't been beaten clean and wears a bullet proof vest
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>>144346954
CEs?
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>>144347028
>cuck Hakuno
>not fuck Hakuno
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>>144343391
Power doesn't necessarily mean stat.
>>
Did we win the football match?
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>>144347028
Gudao
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>>144347048
I can imagine Kerry's Cunning Plan to deal with Lancelot already.
>Step 1 - 3: mope around and be edgy
>Step 4: dig a deep hole trap
>Step 5: make a strawman, place it above that hole, and then dress it up like Arturia
>Step 6: some more moping, combined with intermittently cucking Iri
>Step 7: lure Kariya there by claiming Tokiomi is nearby
>Step 8: let Lancelot fall into the trap
>Step 9: ???
>Step 10: Profit!
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>>144347503
We play tomorrow famalam
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Helena has the sweetest voice. I wish I rolled her.
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>>144347675
>Gudao
>literally gets cucked by Hakuno in Extella
try again
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>>144347386
>Assassin hands come along with NP seal Ibaraki
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>>144347708
You forgot the parts where he eats hamburgers and bullies Saber
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>>144347503
We play only one this weekend, and it's tomorrow. Next weekend we play two matches.
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6#Group_E
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What does CCC stand for?
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>>144348112
Triple Cell.
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>>144348112
Nasu meant to type XXX but his fingers slipped and he was too much of a lazy hack to change it
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>>144347503
It's tomorrow anon.

I hope Olga put Nobbu in the field again.
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>>144347986
How many advance from each group?
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>>144346037
It's pretty good for $10
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>>144347913
And Hakuno literally gets cucked by Gudao in GO.
It's a vicious cycle.
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>>144348112
Cuck three times.
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>>144347675
How can Gudao cuck Hakuno when all the servants shared between them both prefer and end up with Hakuno?
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>>144348327
Two per group, half of the teams overall.
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>>144348365
Extella happens after GO so Gudao is the one who gets cucked.

Also both Nero and Tamamo prefer Hakuno even in GO so Hakuno isn't even cucked in GO
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>>144347708
Lancelot would just KoH the hole
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>>144347386
>assassin hands
>Double waver can built NP off of them and still kill them if my main damage dealer doesn't get cards

Don't see the problem with that
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>>144348560

Why doesn't Lancelot just KoH the air and choke everyone out?
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>>144347441
Ushi on Karna and Sluts, Kintoki on everyone else. I don't have another Kintoki yet, so I haven't bonded my Ushi yet. One I do, I'll put Kintoki on Karna and maxed Ushi on Sluts.
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>>144348548
>Also both Nero and Tamamo prefer Hakuno
Hakucks really are delusional.
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>>144348817
>Nasu literally designs a separate character because regular Nero likes Hakuno more
>Tamamo doesn't give a shit about Guda compared to Hakuno
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>>144348950
>>144348950
>>144348950
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>>144348548
Actually, Extella doesn't happen at all since everything past 2015 is gone.
Both Nero and Tamamo also go through the motions of falling for Gudao as seen in Room segments and events so Hakuno would get cucked if he had existed at all.
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>>144348940
i don't get it. from where it's even come? i don't see it everywhere in the translated lines
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>>144348643
He could KoH the air in the OP but he used it as a bomb instead.

He was going to KoH Invisible AIR in the novel.
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>>144348940
Nero Bride isn't a separate character and was in CCC.
Tamamo just falls in love with whoever her master is, doesn't matter if Hakuno or Guda or Shirou or Kotomine or anything, as long as it has command seals.
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>>144348560
A hole is an absence of ground, you can't KoH something that isn't there.
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>>144346596
Shit memory, desu. Iskandar also claimed its the main thing that led to his defeat when they fought later on in the story.

It broke up his army and confused them, which divided their power or something.
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>>144345053
Good grief, they look like they're in pain
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