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Stop wanting to fuck cats, please edition

>Great news!
-Monster Hunter Generations along with special edition N3DS XLs to release July 15.
-English Patch for Monster Hunter Online is out now http://kogath.com/TeamHD/

>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243 / Search
In 4U, Target: Fishing (it's 4 to the left)
In X, ターグット: Gathering フィールド採集 (page 1, middle right)

tinyurl.com
/weeaboos

Tags: MHGen, MHX, MH4U, MH3U, MHO, MHFU, MonHun, /mhg/

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Good night, /mhg/.
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actual previous thread >>144109080
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Is reload down+1 needed for absolute bowgun in mh4u?
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>reload down
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>>144298101
Ok is reload speed+1 needed or worth it?
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PREORDER WHEN
RELEASE DATE WHEN
>inb4 this shit sells out in seconds and gets scalped at 300% markup while I'm asleep
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>hunting savage jho with DBs
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>>144301104
try hunting him with a bow ;_;
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I want to hunt something but I don't know what
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>>144301104
What's the problem? Get tremor res. Savage is fine with DBs.
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>>144301674
I can't fucking hit those chicken legs
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Any help? Been trying to log in for 30 minutes and all I get is this.
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>>144301104
>>144301730
Time to baguette stick.
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Am I a shitter for playing MHO with Longsword, it's my 2nd MH game. Still not very good
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>>144304029
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>>144304168
Just use a GS or CB. IG isn't that comfortable on monsters too high to grab the extracts without aiming.
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fuck man, i can't figure old what to do on this quest.
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>>144304645
If you shoot his torso you can get both red and orange easily
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>>144304776
There should be a quest called 沼泽特产 when you go to select quests. Complete that.
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Keep DCing REEEE
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>>144298232
Anyone?
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>>144304971

that was it, thanks a lot
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>>144304029
oh dj you so cute
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>>144300308
You reminded me that i should masturbate to some MH hentai.
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>>144304887
The most accessible part to get orange is usually his neck area, since it counts as part of the torso rather than head or chest, which are both red. I tend to grab orange when he trips, because it can be a massive pain otherwise.
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Anyone else here experienced Kushy having his Dragon-windpressure up for ten minutes at a time?

While barely staying on the ground?
Even when flash-bombed, he always jumps to the air whenever he stops being disoriented.

Anyway, any tips for cutting Kushy's tail? Weapons, armor skills, items?
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>>144301104
It's pretty okay using DB against him. Use Poison or Para DB's and you're going to be fine.
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>>144301104
One of the best weapon at killing it, grab Kirin, Tremor Res and HGE and Demon Dance on its left leg, it never moves.
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>>144307068
poison him
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>>144307306
That's the thing, I have poison weapons but Wind-pressure always kicks me down before I hit him.
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>>144307448
are you using a lance or something? super armor ignores wind pressure unless he's in black wind mode
you could always get wind pressure resistance
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>>144307068
Super armor helps deal with the normal wind barrier. Elemental staggers from Thunder or Dragon weapons also work to dispel the black wind barrier.
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>>144307638
Yup, he's in black wind mode for about ten minutes, then changes area. then when I get to the area he has the black wind again plus he's flying all over the place
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>>144307775
I don't use lance, can you shield poke him through the wind barrier? Otherwise you'll have to poke him from outside his range but that's going to be a pain.
If he starts flying just chuck flash bombs and bring materials to combine more
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>>144308068
Using DB's, is that bad?
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>>144308412
nah, I'm pretty sure DBs have armor
they definitely do in demon and archdemon mode

they only problem is that you can't slap him out of the sky like you would with a GS or something
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>>144308556
Exactly
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>>144307448
You should poison him before he gets enraged. Once it's done, you just have to keep attacking, as it keeps building up even when he's already poisoned. It only procs when he's out of poison tho, so don't let up.
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>>144308556
Flash him, poison him whiel hes down.
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>>144309045
>Poison
>With DB
>When Kirin DB exist
Nah, flash him once and he's staggerlocked.
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nargacua armour is pretty fly
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>>144309742
He said he had poison.
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>>144309742
I'm not at that far in the game yet
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>>144310423
Monarch is rare 4.
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>>144310616
I meant I haven't fought kirin yet
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>>144307775
>>144308068
When you break the head or cut the tail it can no longer create black wind. With lance the easiest way to do that would either be chargemounting then attacking it while it's down or countering the head.
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Do Nyanta boomerangs have a critical distance modifier, or is it just flat damage the entire time?
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TA
It's something (ㆁᴗㆁ)
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>>144311216
Flat damage
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>purple elastic toxic chicken stole my gourmet bbq spit
YOU FUCKING BITCH.
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>>144314004
why you carryin that around
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I want to make kittens with Miss Cat!
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>>144314547
I want to get pregnant
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>>144314441
It's like pickaxes and shit, I always have it just in case.
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>>144314650
Personally, I like to carry around energy drinks.
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Is it possible to sell equipment/items in MHO or am I just stuck with tossing the stuff I don't have any use for?
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>>144315692

that's what smart people do

he's not smart
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>>144317514
level 3 here

take an item you want to sell from your inventory and drop it in his inventory

it'll ask how many you'd like to sell

MY TURN

in monster hunter online

do gunners have a 3rd person reticule mode like in most other monster hunter games or am I stuck either firing blind orin 1st person scope?
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anyone want to do Hear no evil, see no evil?
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>>144318578
Sure
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>>144319023
The usual, fishing and password
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>>144315692
>>144318276
No way, I'm saving my 950 honey for mega pots.
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>>144319291
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Hey guys I finished installing Monster hunter online and applied the latest update. However whenever I try to put on the english patch I get this error

"The setup files are corrupted please obtain a new copy of the program"

Does this really mean I have to install the game again?
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>fighting apex Jho
>get Moxie'd
>manage to kill myself with a reflected shot
I honestly didn't know this was even possible.
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>>144321896
>>manage to kill myself with a reflected shot
Why were you shooting with 1 hp in the first place?
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>>144318524
>do gunners have a 3rd person reticule mode
Doesn't seem to, but there's some setting that might help, pic related. I tried it and it doesn't seem to do anything though.
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>>144320271
Did you try installing it to the right folder? You wouldn't be the first in this thread to be that stupid.
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>>144322158
It was the 2nd re-apex, so it was basically on its last legs.
Pickle is predictable enough that I can avoid getting hit by almost all its attacks.
That bizarre rear back, walk, dragonbreath still has the weirdest hitbox though.
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>>144322472
The game itself runs fine. I downloaded both the english patch and the updater, the english patch when run instantly gives me the error, the updater takes a few minutes, then gives me the error. I even put the file in the monster hunter online folder.
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>>144322573
>almost died in the first place
>I can avoid anything I swear
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>>144322472
Okay nevermind. After constantly retrying, it randomly decided to work again.
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>Trying to kill Dora in the guild quest
>Keep getting my ass fucked because of the wind
>Nothing has wind Res on it and I don't have enough decoration space to get the points needed

I had no trouble on the Caravan quest, but the guild one is just fucking me over.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Speaking of monster hunter online, which servers do you guys play on?
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>>144324846
What weapon? GS is probably the best matchup against it
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>>144324846
Just get a few more flashes.
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>>144324846
is it the regular dora or the crazy ass one for that wycoon quest?
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>>144324972
2-4 (second button from the left, 4th from the left) is generally where all the english players huddle in, most of the people here playing use it as well.
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>>144325091

Akantor Switch Axe with +1 Sharpness.

Yeah the sharpness kinda sucks on it but I've done fine with it for a bit now.

Tried the upgraded Rath SA as I read poison screws it over. But once the wind got to me in the end.

>>144325705

Normal.
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>>144327196
Use Zinogre or Stygian Zinogre. Poison is a scam.
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>>144327196
Poison on kushala is a meme. Your main goal against kushala should be head flinches which remove the wind anyway and give you free hits. This can be done easily with GS since he turns pretty predictably for a focus lvl 3 or with elemental weapons
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>>144324972
>>144326007
This.
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>>144301814
did you link your account to a passport id?
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>GX hunter arms can be completely recolored, instead of just coloring some bullshit strap

Oh baby this gets better and better
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>Stop wanting to fuck cats, please edition
Did catfucker infest this general too?
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>>144306739
which artists draw good huntress porn?
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>>144327385
>>144327484

Alright, I'll give it a shot. I'll have to farm for a Zinogre plate to upgrade the Ziggy SA, then whatever materials to further upgrade it kiranico hasn't been working for me the past few days so I'm just going to have to wing it now
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>>144327984
what other generals are nekophilia bait?
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>>144324972
Dude, read the fucking pastebin.
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>>144326007
>>144327621
Thanks guys, just finished the tutorial. finally ready to play this.
KBM doesn't feel too bad honestly and it kinda reminds me of Tera in some ways.
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>>144330664

>MHO - Let's form a guild Region: 华南新区 Server: 沙原暴君

Wow. Great pastebin you fucking mongoloids. Put it in Region: 1-5 Server 1-6 format and put it in the god damned sticky already.
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Anyone here is up for HR4-5 hunting in X?
Or is the general dead until MHGen is out?
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>>144326007
>>144327621

Seconded what these guys said. 2-4
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>flying enemies triggering pitfall traps in MHO

Those fucking dickbag chinks.
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>>144328491
U D O N Y A
D
O
N

Y
A
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Anyone else getting a black screen in MHO when going to a new area? Its happened twice to me already. Is it a server issue?
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>>144328491
Yokohama Junky.
>>144332478
Pleb.
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I'm on MHO and my next quest is a Kut Ku, but when I click hunt it just says "Gook letters" in a red font up above. Anyone know what I have to do?
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>>144332737
Why not both?
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I feel like I'm missing something with Bow. Can you not fire a single arrow instead of a wedge?
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>>144334036
Why would you want to shoot LESS arrows? It's not like you trade damage for the number of arrows or anything.
Anyhow, it depends on the shot type. Piercing shots only shoot one arrow which has, obviously, piercing effect.
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>>144334020
Wisdom.
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>>144334036
There are 3 shot types

Rapid: Close group of arrows that slightly spread in a vertical line. Midrange precision shot.
Spread: Strong group of arrows that spread wide horizontally. Close range shot.
Pierce: Absolute shit don't use
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Kashula D guide please?

The carpel tunnel is getting to me
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>>144334301
But in MHO how do you switch between them? Or is it dependent on the bow itself?
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>>144334661
I don't know about MHO specifically, but in other games they're tied to the specific bow and charge level. Always charge your shots, by the way.
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>>144334624
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Thanks Kushala you fucking prick!
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>>144305905
So I guess I will ask one last time. Is reload speed+1 worth getting on absolute bowgun on mh4u or is that .5 seconds not that bad?
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>>144336917
Rs on any weapon is grossly insignificant
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>>144337161
Thank you. I am pretty new to lbg so I wasnt sure if it would be awful. Is it only worth bringing down if it is a 3.5 second reload?
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>>144337281
There is much better you can do than R . Try status, rapid fire, evade, crag+, sleep+, recoil, normal up, ect
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>>144331994
tell me when you're unlocked
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>>144328491
None. Maybe Udon Ya but their same faces kinda ruin it. They're still probably one of the only good MH porn artists out there.
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>>144336917
God that mix set is ugly.
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So MHO doesn't have team hitting?
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>>144339818
are the skills good at least
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>>144332478
>>144332737
>>144338919
what about female monsters
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>>144341097

Monster Girl Hunter
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So I built Zinogre U in 4u, and I'm deciding what to do with it.
I've got shit all for charms, but it turns out I can plug in any 5 slot skill and get evasion+2, or I can have 9 open slots, 2 from weapon, 3 from tali, and 2 from Helm, and 2 single slots from other pieces. (keeping rec level down from existing, with a gem)

Any suggestions for which skill(s) I should be plugging in, on a GS set?
Asking because athenas is absurdly little help, as it doesn't even say I can plug in the following shit.

also to note, I could get cap master and a 5 slot skill, or rodeo god, because my charms are weird. those are the only the only things I think I can use a charm+ gems with, though
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>>144341527
I want it
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>>144341538
Crit draw of course
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>>144341924
i honestly don't know how I keep forgetting crit draw in sets.
Thanks, anon.
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If I start playing on the Japanese version of MH Generations can I transfer the save file to the US version? Planning on playing Cross with English patch.
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How come parrying with the lance on MHO doesn't work? Is this some sort of horseshit where I have to unlock it?
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>>144341097
None. Sadly all doujins like that are one-offs artists that either move on to other settings/franchises or go back to generic hunters/guildies.
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>>144342647
We can't see the future, anon.
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>>144331867

is reading really too hard for you?
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>>144343984
It was possible with MH4U
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>Realize I haven't played MonHun in awhile
>Start up 4U
>Realize the reason I haven't played was because I don't know how to deal with Hot Monkey Dick using SnS or SA
Shit
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>>144345316
>switch axe
> press X+A to win

not that hard.
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>>144345316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-TXXWSVw8I
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>>144345316
For both, try sticking to the back legs. Watch out for 180 Dempsey rolls and back hops. That's basically it.
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>>144345226
Nobody released an actual tool, that was shakily done by hand.
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>>144345619
>>144345867
>>144345517
I'll give it a shot, but I'm rusty as fuck.
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>>144345316
You don't have to fight only Rajang.
>SnS
Hit the back leg, care of back hops, roll tremors.
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The jkyx.qq.com page is taking forever to load. Are there other ways to link a passport?
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>>144341751

>Gravios Girl
>She's thick as fuck

>Gore Magala girl
>She's a blind Tomoko

>Brute Tigrex girl
>Hyper as fuck and likes to shout
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>>144346268
It's one my remaining Low Caravan quests.

Stopped playing because my friend moved away so it's a bitch and a half for us to coordinate hunting time, and Rajang was a major road block. Put it down, said I would do it later, and I'm picking up the game again after like two months.
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>>144346850
Just ignore the quest fo now and move forward.
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>>144346380
I need a brachy girl
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>hear about MH generations
>"its like mh 1, mh 2, mh 3 and mh 4! its like the generations of monster hunter!!!"
>get super stoked
>waiting patiently
>get bored waiting yesterday and go look up all the armor sets in MHX to think about how cool i can make my character appear
>less armor sets than MH4U, absolutely no g-rank armors which means no sweet capes or rad designs
>huh
>look at the weapons
>fewer weapons than MH4U and the upgrade paths are non existant
>huh
>look at the monsters
>fewer monsters than MH4U
>huh
>no g-rank quests, armors, weapons or monsters, white sharpness is max

can't help but feel disappointed at both how much i was looking forward to this game and how much capcom squandered their opportunity to put as much content into a single game, going as far as subtitling it for the namesake of something to the effect of "MONSTER HUNTER OLD AND NEW"

maybe it was originally titled Monster Hunter Cross because it was a dumb idea that had been crossed off a list of future MH games to make, but they decided to make it anyway.

fuckin japs fell for the supreme meme and made it the best selling MH game to date. goddamnit. can't wait for MH5 to also be this lacking in content.
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>>144347263
>No bangs over the eyes
shit tierr
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>>144347263

I have no clue. Design wise she would have a pompadour that goes from blue at the roots to bright green at the tips.
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lance is fun
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>Glavenus
why did they do this
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>>144345517
>Using phial burst
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>>144347449
>fuckin japs fell for the supreme meme and made it the best selling MH game to date
Source?

By the way Cross was for four generations, four flagships and X meaning 10 for the 10th anniversary.
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>>144347449
the thing that doesn't help Capcom here is that all of the assets for older stuff that was in MH4U are just literally the same assets like this isn't some kind of HD update where they had to pick and choose which content they could upgrade and cram into the cart its literally just a few new things + 1/3rd of the shit from MH4U.
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>>144347994
Dinovaldo sounds so much better
Astalos is better than Razer's Raizex
Mizustsune makes no sense
Gammoth is eh, at least it works
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>>144348627
Dinovaldo gives Jojo vibes for me
Raizex sounds sharp, kind of fits a spiky mon
Tamamitsune is whatever, it's a gay Lagiacrus anyway
Gammoth is okay, since it barely differs from original romanji
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>>144347994
Day 1 Patch restoring DInowarudo and other original games confirmed
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>>144348934
"Glavenus" gives penis vibes for me.
"glans" + "meatus" + the fact it sounds 100% totally different than "Dinovaldo" which was already english-sounding enough as-is.

Like how do we go from Jinouga -> Zinogre, Rajan -> Rajang, to Dinovaldo -> Glavenus

what the fuck at least dinovaldo made sense cause its got a dino vibe. what is glavenus. what is that. is that supposed to be words or a play on words, and which words if so?
Glaive?
couldn't be cause they fuckin spelled it wrong if so.
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>>144349863
>Jinouga -> Zinogre
redneck spotted
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>>144347994
Oh man I'm afraid to even check what they localized the names to. Did they change hororo-horuru?
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>>144350047
yes, thanks for spotting yourself.
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>>144350076
Malfestio.
Sounds alright.
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>>144350076
>Did they change hororo-horuru?
I'm so sorry
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Why are people waiting for Generations when you can play X right now?
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>>144350225
NOOOOOOOOOO
SOILED IT
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will Generations be better than 4
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>>144350572
if you thought 4 had too much content and not enough blinding particle effects, then yes.
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>>144348627
>Astalos is better than Razer's Raizex
Is the worst of the 4.
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>>144350682
oof
should I even get it?
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>>144350702
Solely because of Astalos Vista
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>Loving the speed and versatility of SnS
>Having to watch tails go completely out of reach
Probably nothing but scales anyways
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>>144342656

Pls respond.
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>>144350860
up 2 u dude

whether i get it or not is hinging solely on how much i continue to currently play MH4U with a new group of online hunting buddies cause lord knows the NEW GAME meme is gonna roll in once its released and a lot of people will probably go get it.

might be worth the play for however long the play lasts but IMHO, i see people either dropping the game altogether once they've had their fun and either quitting MH until the next MH or going back to MH4U.
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>>144351047
forget about tails when you're using SnS
learn to love monster calves
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>>144327621
tfw on 1-7

>>144330903
The KBM controls feel almost exactly like Dark Souls 2 (with double clicking disabled) to me. I wouldn't compare the game to TERA at all, largely because it has very different core gameplay from MH.

>>144334661
>>144334785
Works the same way in MHO.

By the way, to double check that I just tried out bow for a minute and if the guy asking how to mouse-aim a bow the other day happens to be around, press e to freeaim. This also shows you your critical distance (sort of), you want to try to space yourself so your arrows hit the monster close to the beginning of the red part of the line for maximum damage.
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>>144351047
Grab the tail when the monster is toppled from trips or mounts. SnS is one of the best weapons for triggering both of those things.
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>>144351334
Yeah, I've got that

How do I tell when to dodge through tremors? Picklebeast is easy enough, but would be easier if I could just ignore that shit. Don't feel like making an armor set just for Tremor Res.
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>>144351586
Tremor res is only a five slot skill, should be easy to get on most sets and just gem in for monsters like jho and jang. But anyway, sns has a really handy tool for learning evasion timing- The shield. You can block tremors, and the moment the block stagger begins is right after when you should dodge.
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>>144351359
>e to free-aim

oh my god thanks anon

Still trying to figure out what f2 does for bow and I'm set.
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Is Deviljho equipment still worth it this time around? Just got two gems from the frenzied Jho quest.

Also what the fuck is this Apex shit? I know it involves the Wystones, and that it's involved in grinding for relics.
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>>144352835
Think of the Apex monsters overcoming the Frenzy, much like a hunter. However, they are stronger and weapons bounce off of them, even if you hit the weakspots, but that can be taken care of by using the Drive Wystone. Oh, and they have more health than a usual monster has.
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>>144352378
I haven't actually used bow in MHO so I'm not positive but from the interface it looks like it switches or loads your currently selected coating. Pretty much any bow tutorial for mainline will tell you about coatings.

It may be different because of the english patch now but I've stayed away from gunner weaps in MHO mostly because ammo seemed like a headache to manage when everything was in chinese and the ui is different from what I'm used to. Coatings are bow's ammo.
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>>144352835
they're annoying shit roided up monsters that reflect your attacks unless you use a wystone that last like half a fucking minute and takes 2 hours to go off cooldown
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>>144353375
Nah f1 switches coatings, while r loads them.

f2 has some moonrunes next to it.
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>>144353285
Shit advice, weakspots in bounce zone receive only 20% damage, ALWAYS hit the soft spot, even with Drive. Drive is meant for arcing weapons in case you hit something next to a soft spot so you don't get fucked.
>>144352835
Read the guide in the pastebin.
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>>144339818
>largely consistent color scheme
>nice skills
>tight leggings
what's not to love?

>No Pirate J gear in the US/EU version
oh right. that's why
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Wow, I just downloaded MHFU for PPSSPP! This game's awesome!
I'm a poorfag in a 3rd world country so can't enjoy 3U onwards, but still, yoooooooo...
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>>144353473
I wasn't really giving advice. I was just saying what Apex was about.
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>>144353934
try out portable 3rd, much better
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So what DB do you guys use in 4u?
I was pretty underwhelmed by them this time around, outside of using crazy status relics I used Entomothers and Le Shangri-La but thats only because I like how they look.
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Hunting a seregios for a bow, then whatever else from there. (MH4U)

Hall ID: 22-9137-9001-4649
Pass: 0138
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>>144355363
I use glitched-in DBs that have an impossibly high amount of Blast value.

For solo shits and giggles, of course.
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>>144355471
Use the password from the OP, not some random shit.
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>>144355471
>0138
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>>144355363
not counting relics?
tigerstripe zamtrios DBs are my jam
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>>144355363
Gog's of course
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>>144355591
Might as well be a relic then...
Its a shame that the base game DB are not satisfactory.
They are easily my favorite weapons behind CB/SwAxe
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>>144355680
I'm sorry. I tend to use my usual pass out of habit. Fixed.
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>>144355997
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>>144355997
Well, it's a hacked relic. Doesn't exist naturally in game.

It kills Gog in 4-6 minutes solo.
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When do I stop feeling bad for using the CB in 4U? Because I feel guilty as fuck with how good this is, and I used the LS in 3U.
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>>144356216
Yes, yes, I know.
>inb4 edgelord faggot
I enjoy the fluidity of the DB and mechanisms of the transforming weapons. Fuck me right?

But I'm a big fan of all the weapons, mechanically speaking S&S and HH are among my top favorites aswell.
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>>144356308
That's up to you, guy. Nobody thinks using the CB is cheap or cheating.
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>>144356308
It's not like you're using GS or IG where they're pretty easy to use and extremely overpowered. Most weapons feel really good when used right though CB is genuinely the third best
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>>144356308
>>144356606
I mean they are pretty damn strong, but they require some know-how.
So I would say if you got guardpoints down and proper flask management then there's no reason to feel conflicted
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>>144355217
PC can run MHFU at 30 FPS fixed but just can't handle HD Ver. with the Maverick Translation Patch 5.
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>>144356713
GS is way harder to use than most weapons

stop this meme
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>>144357084
>GS is way harder to use than most weapons
There's now way anyone believes this.
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>>144357084
Being slightly decent at GS puts out more damage than being skilled at multiple weapons.

Being pro as fuck at GS shits out more damage than any weapon in the game, bar none.

Daddy Capcom loves the GS.
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>>144357227
name 5 weapons that are harder to use than GS
gunner weapons don't count
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>>144357084
Mastery of the GS involves excellent positioning + timing. These are also the prerequisites of most other weapons, but without the benefits of huge damage output and ease of maneuvering.

The risk/reward for the GS makes even mediocre players contribute a lot more than they would with any other weapon.

This isn't to say it's a bad thing, but it's foolish to say the GS takes an inordinate amount of skill to master.
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>its a "trying to play with 9k ms even though yesterday was an ok 250" episode

Fucking MHO, I want to play you.
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>>144357461

I've considered gitting gud with the GS.

How do I do so? I've watched a few videos on it and they've mostly said "hit and run until you get an opening then start wailing on the monster."
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>>144357084
Are you fucking serious nigger? I used to believe this because it made sense that for optimal damage you'd have to know the unique timing on any given monster you were fighting to exploit charge 3s, but once I actually tried it out myself I realised that isn't true at all. Almost every monster is designed to get headsniped by focus GS, you literally just stand somewhere and start charging and they put their head in your way. It's the weapon I use on expeditions because it's completely braindead, I literally don't have to look at the screen half the time.
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>>144357713
All over weapons.
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>>144357993
That's basically the strategy of GS boiled down to as simple as it can be made.

Learn how to reach weak points, and when you can charge.

For example, after a HR Tigrex finishes its chain dashes, if you stand right at the tail and start charging the moment they stop, they'll turn around just in time to catch a level 3 charge to the nose.
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>>144357461
IG is just as good if not better than GS in 4U.
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>>144357993
If you memorize the monster's move set and weak points you can exploit their attacks to insert damage quickly and weave back out to safety until another opening reveals itself.

It's all pretty intuitive and fun once you understand how positioning and timing works for each monster.
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>SnS/DB main
>Quest has monsters with conflicting weakness
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME
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>>144358259
I'd argue IG is better for multiplayer while GS is better for solo cheese if you can time a level 3 charge as the monster is turning around
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>>144357084
I mean, if you wanna do like evade GS or something. but GS is just drop the unsheath attack and run sheath and unsheath
Then just capitalizing on periods of vulnerability
I suppose it takes some intelligence to know how to run around but I wouldn't call it hard.
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>>144358718
Use blast?
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>>144357461
>than any weapon in the game, bar none
MP HBG and IG are both stronger. AUL HH contributes more on a team with three powerful weapons.

>>144357713
LS
SnS
IG
Hammer
Lance
just some random weapons really since it is literally the easiest in the game
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>>144358874
Yeah, I am. But fuck me, I love having specific answers for things.
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>>144358929
at least you got LS right
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>>144359132
LS is the second easiest weapon imo, but beyond CB and gunner weaps being the most technical and GS being by far the easiest I think weapon ease of use is more of a subjective thing.
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What are the best skills sets/armors and weapons for Hunting Horn? Pastebin is being shit on my phone.

Should I just start a new game from scratch with the Hunting Horn and learn from there or should I do it from my main character and work my way up to G Rank by handpicking quests that will benefit me to learn the weapon well?
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>>144358251
>>144358265

Alright, I'll craft one and try it out.

Is the Sergios one any good? I've got parts out the ass and no real use for them.
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>>144358754
IG has better solo times than GS on basically half of the 140 monsters, so no, you're wrong.
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>>144359509
seregios weapons are all shit

>b-but the CB
all shit
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>>144359626
Fair enough

baguette stick is fucking busted
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>>144359403
>Should I just start a new game from scratch with the Hunting Horn
This is a bad idea, and if you try it you'll quickly realise how fucking tedious doing all the (mostly gathering-related) tutorial shit just to unlock the same content you already have access to is. If you want to simulate a new game gearing down and doing the keys again is the best course of action.

I find the best way to learn a new weapon to be gearing down to high rank and joining high rank lobbies with it, personally.

Good armour skills for HH are razor sharp/sharpness+1 (depending on the horn, even more important than on other weapons since you want to sheathe as little as possible ideally), horn maestro (obviously, it extends the duration of your buffs), evasion skills (especially e+) can be nice if you can't git gud at dodging, other than that just the usual tremor/wind/hearing res and attack stacking.
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Need to hunt tesucabra and Deviljho
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>>144301104
I've been told that Garuga is bad with dual blades yet it's the only weapon that I can hunt garuga with whilst having any level of success. And it's not even close to one of my mains.
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>decline because I can't speak chinese and don't know how guilds work
feels bad
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>>144360695
The chip damage is kind of a pain.
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Some of these lance moves are pretty neat.
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>All this MHO posting
One guy, or did it get way easier to play MHO lately?
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>>144359403
>>144360186


>not just playing arena quests to learn new weapons
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>>144362843
English translation patch.
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>>144362843
latter.
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>>144359047


blast is a specific answer to quests with multiple monsters who don't share weaknesses
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>>144362934
>>144362937
Oh, that's neat as fuck.

How's the lag?
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Is MHO gonna be A Thing or is everyone gonna jump ship to Generations as soon as it comes out
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>>144362843
Mostly one shitposter.
Which brings me to my next point.

STOP FUCKING SHITPOSTING
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>>144363047
Varies. Usually noticeable but playable. Sometimes cripplingly bad.
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>>144363425
Why not both.
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>>144363518
Because MHO is a shitty paywalled chink knockoff.
Fuck off.
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So who MHO here
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Bloses a fucking shit.
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>>144363578
>Paywall

What. Literally the only thing in the game you would want to pay for is fashion, everything else is like normal MH.
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>>144363773
You've obviously never played MH.
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>>144363578
MHX isn't exactly the greatest monhun either. Again, I don't see why not both.
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>>144363425
They all probably have finished playing mhx when it came out last year grandpa.
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I've played all the way to killing Basarios and Hypnocatrices on MHO before the English patch even came out, it seems fine to me.
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>>144363902
MHX is a shitty spinoff crossover. They're both shit, so how about neither?
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>>144363850
>The I've obviously never played the older games meme
>M-muh original games
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>>144363902
>>144363985
What's wrong with MHX? If I'm not super hardcore into MH will I give a shit?
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Anyone have a high rank Kirin to toss me?
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>>144364327
MHX is too Frontier and /mhg/ hates Frontier with a passion.
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>>144364560
I've played like 100 hours of MH3 on the Wii and 100 hours of 4U. What does Frontier do so differently?
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>>144364327
probably not.

past two 3DS games have had G-rank stuff but this one doesnt so it technically has less content than either of first two 3DS games. If you don't know much about monhun you'll still prob get a good 40-100 hrs of gameplay out of it.
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>>144364668
Basically it comes down to too much flair.
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I feel like this is my favorite set in the entire game.
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Would anybody be down for killing a G rank black fatalis or two? I need two fellwings for my new pierce HBG suit. I'll make a fishing room if there's interest.
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>>144364327
It's a rehashed aniversary title. It throws in some gimmicky hunter arts but it isn't enough to make things feel fresh if you're coming from 4U. The 30fps is also pretty shameful, since it looks worse than 4U.
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>>144364560
Excuse me, but the Frontier Forward series was okay, it's MHFG that went pants on head retarded
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>>144364950
>30fps is also pretty shameful, since it looks worse than 4U.
I don't know how Capcom keeps doing this.

MH3U on the 3DS ran flawlessly and looked crisp, then MH4U came out and it had worse FPS while simultaneously also looking all-around uglier with blurry as fuck tiled repeating textures all over every environment.

MHX looks even worse and has an even worse FPS too?

amazing.
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>>144364952
But now that "pants on head retardedness" is mainstream, quoting the reason "we want the younger audience!" as the reason. Too bad the sales doesnt reflect that.
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>>144364950
Capcom never said it was an anniversary title.
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>>144364936
Room is up. I'm fine with doing crown turns. I also need a GX Hunter coif so I'll be posting Hear no evil see no evil next.

01-3444-6425-8416
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>mhx a shit
>"oh well theres always mh5"
>remember the next MH game is that cartoony animu rpg
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>haven't played MH since the PSP
>look to see what the new one is like
>looks like a cell phone game from 2006
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>>144365810
There's an actual mainline game coming out this year though. Highest possibility is MHXG.
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>>144366121
>Highest possibility is MHXG
You're so cute, Anon.
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>>144348627
>Mizustsune makes no sense

mizutsune makes so much sense that i'm surprised that's not the official japanese name
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>>144366121
>this year
thats the animu rpg, anon.
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>>144366284
>sales estimate for mhx: 2.5 million
>sales estimate for 2016 mh: 2 million
Yes I know I'm cute, your mom keep saying that.
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>>144363985
>shitty spinoff crossover
Oh boy, more misinformation.
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>>144366401
Well, yeah, in that way it makes sense, at a translation it doesn't.
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>>144363578
>paywalled
>arguing vehemently from a position of ignorance
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>>144363902
It's not exactly the worst, either. Just because it's lesser than 4U in some ways doesn't mean it's not better in others.
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>>144366602
is it more fun?
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>>144366431
Nope
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/resident-evil-0-remaster-sold-800000-new-monster-hunter-title-due-march-2017

>It’s worth noting that “Monster Hunter Title” is not Monster Hunter Stories, Capcom’s spin-off RPG for 3DS, but something entirely separate, as Tsujimoto notes the above titles are “in addition” to previously announced titles Monster Hunter Stories, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice, and Umbrella Corps.
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Anyone got a link for a guide to installing the Taiwanese Monster Hunter Frontier G?
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>>144363942
I did a bit of high rank before putting it down for a while. I really want to enjoy it, and I do when the ping plays nicely, but it's too laggy most of the time.
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>>144366475
they shipped well over 3 million units of MHX though. it exceeded their estimate.
>lets make an even lower estimate now
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>>144366518

yes it does.
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>>144366475
My mom's dead.
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>>144366653
>march 2017
>this year
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>>144366518
There is literally nothing about a water fox named Water Fox that doesn't make sense. You can say it's not a good name, but if you can't figure out why it has that name in the first then you are an idiot. If it's name was Fire Dog or something, then yes, that would not make sense.
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Game is up for MH4U, gonna hunt with some bros and we've got space for one more.
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>>144365309
You're over-exaggerating it. Gen 4 has made a point of taking ideas from Frontier and trying to refine them and rebalance them to fit the main series.

Frontier remains pants-on-head retarded even in the face of Generations, because Frontier doesn't fucking know when to rein it in.

Generations is flashier than usual, yes, but that doesn't stop it from still being the same Monster Hunter we all know and love in the core gameplay. Just because there's a couple new mechanics doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

The only real thing that's of any real note here is that people don't like the aesthetic of it. The aesthetic of the designs, and the aesthetic of the combat. The actual core game is the same as ever, but is taking a few experimental steps and trying to figure out what it should and shouldn't keep, as the series has been doing long before Generations.
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>>144366718
Yes. That's how it works. They will of course sell more than 2 million.
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>>144366951
He's saying it doesn't make sense for a monster to have a japanese name in a translated version of the game, dingbat. Whether he's right is debatable but he's not arguing about the meaning of the name.
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>>144366909
March is end of a fiscal year in japan. For comparison, mhx had the 2.5 million sales target by march 2016 but the game came out november 2015. Look it up.
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>>144367246
i ain't buyin MHXG unless it's got the equivalent content jump from MH3 to MH3U, including new weapon types.

s'all i'm sayin. not interested in capcom's shitty deal they delve to their own jap audience with making them buy the same game twice with a little extra content like MH4 and MH4G
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>>144367174
The monster feels more japanese than any other monster, it makes sense.
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>>144366998
The most rational post I've seen in this shithole for months.
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>>144366647
That depends. I think anyone who enjoys Bayonetta might find something enjoyable in the Adept/Bushido style, although there is the possibility that it may conflict with their Monster Hunter sensibilities, at least at first. Keep in mind that not all style changes are overly flashy bullshit, and not all hunter arts are, either, so the game's not in danger of suddenly becoming God of War.

I think it actually is more fun than 4U, at least in the endgame. It lacks G-rank, sure, but the difficulty can get nearly as bad if not worse if you do the ticket quests and level them up. The system is similar to Guild Quests, but it's different enough to be worth judging on its own, given that they are specific quests with specific monsters and specific rewards, but on the bright side the lack of relic weaponry makes grinding guild quests for weapons better than anything you can craft (depending on the weapon type) something that does not occur, so there's that whole layer of bullshit tossed away.

The Outrage system is similar but different to Frenzy, and there's no real Apex assery. While apex was definitely a test of skill and coordination, it also happened to be kind of unenjoyable so I welcome the new system.
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>>144367481
Just pirate it like the rest of the world. Also there's no jump in improvement from mh3 to mh3g. They only took content from mhp3rd and call it a day.
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>>144367521
If by Japanese you mean Chinese, then yeah.
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>>144367772
Same shit.
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>>144367714
I wasn't aware Plesioth was built for underwater combat in P3rd.
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>>144368019
i wasn't aware brachydios was in portable 3rd
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>>144368142
I wasn't aware Dire Miralis was in p3rd.
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>>144367664
MH4 was great without G Rank. MHX is just alright.
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Why are fucking shogun ceanataur's pincers so hard to break in MHO? Was it this hard in FU?
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>>144369062
How do you figure that, then, since Gen is 4 but with fewer first gen monsters and more third gen monsters, new town, revisiting old towns, and new mechanics?
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>>144370464
Well Gen maybe 4th gen, but doesn't resemble MH4 in scope or anything.
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>triple cart trying to LS D.Seltas Queen with an evasion build, almost hit time limit before she starts to limp

>guard lance her
>capture her in half the time without carting even once or even using all of my first set of mega potions

Recently I've really started to learn to appreciate the shield advance+slap and the jousting charge, especially with that reverse swipe.

Now just one more hardclaw for the Crossenders, then I can get more Garuga lashes for poison weapons, then I can do the double deviljho naked quest for I don't even know why.
>>
Is it just me

Or no matter which game or how far I get

Kut Kus are the fucking worst
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>>144372418
It's for ceadeus regalia. And the fun of hunting 2 jho naked.
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>>144373414
I've been under a fairly strict policy of "take no quest online unless you can solo it with no carts" until pretty recently, but I've had the game since release and I still haven't completed it, so I'm really wondering if I should maybe consider lifting that restriction to just get it done.
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>>144372898
it's not just you.
Kut-Kus are awful.
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47-0386-2132-4520
carry me to G2
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Can anyone share a HR ruby basarios GQ with me?
And maybe run it with me once or twice?
Weapons/armor bias doesn't really matter, I just need a bunch of it's parts for varying purposes.
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>>144374350
Isn't there an event quest?
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>>144374440
is there? kiranico says there isn't, and they're usually good on basic shit like that, but there's always a chance.
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>>144374525
>Unironically using Kiranico when Ping's Dex exists
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>>144374665
Pings doesn't give drop rate chances for stuff like mining, so I tend to alternate.

After checking though, there's two event quests,one with both types, one just ruby basarios. Pings dex lists that one as HR8, pretty sure that's G rank.
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>>144374440
There is but it's paired with normie basarios in high rank

>>144374350
I have one
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>>144374930
Can you toss it my way?
ID:15-1785-5392-3222
or under fishing.
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>>144375072
I'm getting connection errors for some reason right now fug
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TA
I tried a couple different anti savage jho setups and decided on this one, so I took it for a spin. Not a great time but I'm ok with it.
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>>144376384
People who can't even find control panel/buy macs shouldn't be allowed near computers.
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Would any considerate hunters be willing to help a fellow grind the parts to make Seltas X? I need a bunch of moonbows mostly. Also am G1 and don't have the questo. Sorry. :[
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>tfw still no Miss Cat doujinshi
>tfw untranslated Little Miss Forge doujinshi
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>>144376174
I use that glaive with my metal Rath set. First time I've ever seen anyone else use it. High five!
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>>144380126
It's because savage jho is extremely elementally weak and takes fuck all raw in the bits you can hit. It's pretty much the only monster that weapon is useful for, at least as far as I know. Every other thunder situation is better handled with white fatty's stick.

>>144374249
Give it a password if you remake. The room was all randoms after your DC.
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What's the difference between the normal guild Daora and the Wycoon Daora?
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>>144381287
Wycoon daora is the one that requires HR 7 or 8? Those ones are super high rank, basically g-rank with high rank rewards
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>>144381436
I FUCKING KNEW IT!
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>>144380724
thx for helping out
im taking a break for now
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>>144376174
You tried Hellruin? I did better with Lightbreak Lance than with Kirin's
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>>144382849
Yes. Kirin>W.Fatty>Dalamadur>Hellruin
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>>144352835
If you can't get Honed Blade, both regular and Savage Jho parts when combined with Molten Tigrex parts makes it easy to get RS and AXL, depending on your charm and other parts other stuff like Handicraft and HGE is also easy to get.
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does anyone wanna help me with event quests?
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>>144384570
What event quests do you have in mind
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>>144384570
btw im new, dont bully

>>144384635
just a run down of whatever gives me unlocks

that apex diablo one has cool armor though
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So before I get too far into grinding, is the Emperor's Frostsword a good Great Sword or am I better served to try elsewhere?
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>>144384707
I'll join in the next 5-10 minutes, just gotta sort some things out
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>>144384768
ok
08-9336-7147-9753
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>>144384739
Make the Steve GS and you're good for the whole game. Later on you can see if the black fatty GS works out with some monster specific setups for better results, but you can never go wrong with Steve's.
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>>144384739
Ice is THE element you don't abuse in 4U. At all.
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>>144384842
Please use the password or you'll just get randoms.
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>>144385127
Teostra says hi.
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>>144385228
You could have said Plum Daimyo Hermitaur but you had to pick a monster weak to Dragon.
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>>144384842
Yeah, might want to password up your room.
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08-8048-2246-1020
high rank
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>>144385357
Most melee weapons spend the entire fight hitting his back legs, which are weakest to ice.
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>>144384893

Forgive my ignorance, but do you mean the Stygian Zinogre or something else?

I only really browse when I need help with something, so I'm not too familiar with the nicknames
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>>144385556
Seregios. Stygian is called Stiggy.
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>>144385556
Seregios
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>>144384893
I-I liked Cera Cymmetry until I got BFB

It's also easier to hone
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>>144385514
Most melee weapons focus on the head with Dragon if they don't suck ass.
Using a pure ice weapon like Oroshi Kirin is dumb as fuck, the hitzone is 15.
GS is one of the weapon that can hit the head the most.
The tail is also very weak to Dragon.
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>>144384842
And it looks like everybody disconnected from the room. Will you make another? I'm kind of getting blue-balled here.
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>>144385467
>>144385132
>>144386079
sorry my connections being weird and not letting me connect

never does this, sorry guys
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01-6794-7171-8066
not even randos are joining my room :(
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Thinking about that New 3DS XL Generations model...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg5ujGdtA9w
>monster hunter is a perfect game with no glitches
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>>144387026
It's how hosting works that causes this, nothing new.
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>>144386971
Enjoy ur stock firmware
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>>144387263
Huh
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>>144387248
Still a glitch, and just one of hundreds in the game. Not saying it makes monster hunter shit, just taking the piss out of that kid that throws an autistic tantrum when someone mentions dark souls and rants about how monster hunter is perfect and flawless and dark souls is one big bug.
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>>144385840
Hitting Teostra's head is extremely risky for most weapons. GS can do it about half the time in normal play, and exclusively in a TA setting where you don't mind dying a bunch to get the good run, since you're so often just a charge RNG away from getting hit.
Weapons that should be focusing on the back legs: SnS, DB, LS, Lance, GL, SA, IG
Gunners should be going for tail>head.
A lot of weapons don't have a competitive ice option so they don't use it, but SnS and IG do (although Bounding Dalamadur is basically just as good.)
Going for the head with the weapons listed above is actually the mark of bad play, not the other way around.
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>>144387471
Yeah and nobody sucks MH's dick for being perfect. The games have hilarious blatant glitches
Monsters in Frontier will occasionally freeze up in the swamp and jungle, underwater crouching fire, might seed and might pill could stack in Tri while maintaining duration

and vid related which also happens to Cephadrome in Frontier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzspSlzsS0M
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>>144387597
Wrong, both Lance and IG focus on the head, the others are correct.
>Daora's SnS on Teostra
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>>144362923
>Arena Quests
>Expecting players to benefit and learn from the shittiest builds for a "challenge"

If you actually think giving Windproof Hi on a HH build against a Stygian Zinogre then you have problems.
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>>144387661
>Yeah and nobody sucks MH's dick for being perfect.
The guy I'm talking about does.
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>>144387661
I don't have a video, but when I did a dual rajang event quest for some tonfa, in that little arena with the small river next to it, when rajang would go up to fire his lightning ball and the recoil made him shoot himself back into the water and fall through the map....aand then jump back out.

That plessy thing looks hilarious, shame it only works on the older version of frontier.
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>>144387838
>IG
>ever hitting Teostra's head
A large part of why IG is the best weapon for killing Teostra comes from being able to maneuver under him to stick to the back legs. The only time an IG player going for speed should ever hit Teostra's head is with the kinsect for the extract.
I'm no lance expert, but judging by the fact that you actually thought IG would be hitting the head, I'm going to throw your assertion in the trash.

As for
>Daora's SnS on Teostra
Pictured is the fastest SnS 140 Teostra clear. All 3 times listed on the wiki use the same weapon.
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>Have MH3U
>Used to think that Capcom would continue on with putting MH games on the 3ds
>MH4 comes out, 3ds only
>"cool, i'll just wait to see if they'll release another on a home console"
>MH Generations comes out
>3ds

Fucking shit. Can't believe I'm forced to buy a 3ds just to play MH Generations.
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>>144359671
Rogue Sedition is decent and needs no sharpness +1

Once you get Black Fatalis Blade though you'll probably be using that a lot.
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>>144359671
SA is arguably best in class
SA is shit though so I guess you're still right
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how the fuck do i get the rock with the sword inside it in mh4u
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>>144359671
>seregios weapons are all shit
Hi Pierre, the HBG, LBG, Bow, GL, CB, HH, GS, and SA called. They said to finish your Snake key
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>>144389760
>optimal choice for about half of all 140s
>for some of the remaining ones you need a god charm for BFB to beat it
>decent
yeah it's ok I guess
BFB is generally better for group play and short hunts though.
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Would it be a reasonable plan, if I'm just trying to make it through G rank solo, to clownsuit together whatever I can just so I have decent armor, and then grind a specific set? I'm just starting to get tired of being one-shot by Stripey the Sandshark.
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>>144388682
It comes from the tail being as weak as the head and alternating between both.
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>>144390314
>>144388682
As for IG they're all even (Daora, Fatalis & Dala)
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>>144390126
>>144359671
>Steve CB
I missed the memo, since when did it work with the counter-heavy focus of 4U CB?
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>>144390126
The CB is shit though, it's stupidly weak.
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>>144388682
>140 solo TA are the same as G3/4man 140
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>>144390262
slap together a G rank early full set with:
A. 1 or maybe 2 skills you want
B. Decent Defense
Go through G rank until you got a decent amount complete, unlock most of it, and then either full-set with something better, 2-3 skills you want and higher defense, or use athenas and clownsuit.
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>>144390085
anybody?
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>>144391051
Yeahhhh, I guess that makes more sense. I'm just impatient and want to be able to do it now, so I figured I'd slap together some pointless jumble.

Also the one that looks easiest is Tetsucabra, and that's what I used for Low Rank. Armor do-overs trigger my autism.
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>>144391086
It's part of a questline where you get off your ass and start doing Gathering hall quests, and upgrade your cats' home base.
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>>144391086
Complete the Cowardly Palico quest line
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>>144391204
ah. so continue doing what i am right now. thanks
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>>144390262
G1 is pretty shit for armor so I wouldn't even bother. The only thing G1 seems to be good for is tetsucabra legs since they're one of the better looking torso up options.

You should be able to get by if you just upgrade your current gear with armor spheres. Worst case you can gem in protection (lol) and eat for defender to help out a little bit. A good number to aim for is ~500, which is completely within reason for high rank gear to preserve a functional skill set.
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>>144390827
It's one of your best Raw weapons. Any set that needs earplugs will be using it

Are you confusing it with the Rajang one which retards think is actually used ever?

Your impact CB are
Desert Rose, Akantor, Ceadeus, Seregios, Daora, Crimson Fatalis, Chaos Gore

Promised Nadir is borderline because it is only good when you are naked.

>>144390748
Any monster that you don't Guard point Roars like Deviljho and Shiggy
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>>144390085
I disconnected for some reason, but I'm just waiting in the lobby.
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>>144390748
It's good on some select monsters (Jho and Zinogre particularly) due to little to counter.

>>144390556
They're all even, yes, but none focus on something other than the back legs. Just because the best weapon for lance is one with dragon element doesn't mean you'd be hitting the head or tail with it.
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>>144390085
Cowardly Palico questline, but you need to be HR7 for the Akantor quest at the end of it. The sword isn't very good though and only goes up to Rarity 7.
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>make female hunter in 4u to make sets that don't look like I'm a gundam
>Don't ever bring cats on hunts
holy shit, how did it take a second character for me to do this, this is way better, lone hunter=best hunter
That said, if they brought back shakalakas I'd use them again in a heartbeat.
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>110 hours in MH4U and finally completed every guild quest up to HR6
>also nearly on caravan quests 8
Feels good man. I really am glad in retrospect that I decided to concurrently do guild and caravan quests. It just feels better.
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>>144391401
> akantor at end
> dont have a single weapon water element damage out the whazoo
> solo

FUCK
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>>144391884
You got a pierce gun or something
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>>144391884
>Akantor
>Water
???
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Okay I didn't play MH3U or 4U so bear with me:
How does ending by subquest work?
If I cut up of a Garuga beak and end via subquest, do I keep the beak or what?
>Playing MHX
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>>144391971
is akantor not weak to water?
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Hey guys keen to start maining the light bowgun in MH4U but all those "stats" like deviation or some shit confuse me.

Can anyone help?
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>>144392041
hes weaker to dragon and thunder
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>>144391884
Not Gravios, Anon.
Akantor.

>>144392041
Kiranico and/or pingsdex is your friend.
Dragon would be the best choice against it.
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>>144391369
Actually, I found the Akantor Sev to work nicely on Zinogre

Although I could never imagine how it would work on Apex/140 unless if the person was an absolute god with landing Ultras
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>>144392041
Not at all, like 5 in normal mode and 25 if you break the belly (shit hitzone)
Dragon is like 25+ everywhere
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>>144392107
> thunder
how the fuck does that make any sense?
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>>144392041
>Agnaktor=weak to water
>akantor=weak to dragon and thunder

I think you got these mixed up
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>>144392041
he's barely, becomes somewhat after you break parts. Dragon is best, but lightning works as well, especially if you aim for just belly
Consider getting pings dex, it's in the OP
>>144392071
you could read the OP,
>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh (embed)
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.
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>>144392173
But Agnaktor is also weaker to Dragon
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>>144392173
nah i didnt, i assumed since its fire based, it would be weak to water.
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Late night gog farming anyone? Gonna post a /mhg/ room, my name is chillance.
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>>144392238
He is? My bad then
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>>144392256
But it's Dragon/Raw based
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>>144392238
Only while it's armor is hot or destroyed.
Water is the more consistent choice.
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>You can get that skill by using this armor piece
>But you'd be giving up your fashion spirit in doing so

What's that piece, MHG? Female Kaiser Tassets X are probably one of the worst offenders for me.
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>>144392134
It is optimal. Many Steve weapons are only worth using once you start getting benefit from the auto sharpening feature, i.e. when you would be forced to sharpen another weapon. I doubt the Steve CB is optimal for any non guild quest.
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>>144392234
>FAQ doesn't mention subquests.
It has failed me.
>>144392016
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>>144392557
Torso up headgear. Skull is pretty bad, but hunter is even worse.
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>>144392986
Black belt I mean. It's fucked up too since japan actually has decent torso up headgear in the form of pirate hats
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>>144392986
You don't like black belt? I think it's pretty ok. Pirate would obviously be much nicer though.
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>>144392883
You get the subquest reward, as well as part breaks and any other random shit in your backpack before you legged it.
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>>144387597
>DB
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>>144392883
I mean, there's also just googling shit
It's not like it's harder than posting and expecting us to be your search engine, and wait for an answer.
>>144392557
>Kaiser
Fuck kaiser gear.
If I had to pic something specific, kaiser mail/vest X, as well tassels, that you mentioned.

>>144392986
>>144393082
>Tfw I like both skull and black belt helms
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Every time I start this quest up I can't unsheathe my weapon. Tried restarting. Still won't let me unsheathe.

Anyone else having this issue?
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>>144393102
Oh perfect for farming face pieces then. Thank you.
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>>144393149
I don't see any head hitting in your picture.
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>>144393214
Google failed me too, it came up with 4U answers since MHX is not released in English. Since stuff changes from game to game it doesn't help.

I try Google before bothering people. But I got my answer thanks to >>144393102

I was mid quest so... it saved me a ton of time.
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>>144393827
If you end via subquest you retain all items you've gathered/carved, break rewards and rewards from the subquest pool. The quest doesn't count as cleared though.
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>>144390243
Fast Charge +7/Attack +14 OOO is what I use with BFB

don't really have a better set atm to use it with except for memeknight because of its metric asston of slots

I'm not even using an optimized set for /mhg/ rooms right now, I'm full on fashion hunting with black belt.
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>>144395418
Why bother hacking charms if you're not going to optimize your equipment? It's not like you should be concerned with having the best skills possible.
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Is it me or are the majority of Ancient Shard appraisals in G-Rank end up as those Rarity 5 weapons like Vulcanis and Blue Crater instead of the Worn ones?
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>>144393290
I never used the unsheathe button, have you tried just pressing an attack? I'm assuming you have. Not sure friendo, I'm already on Ch10, and I haven't experienced any hiccups so far.
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>>144397239

Attacking to unsheathe doesn't work either.
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On MHO do you stop getting carves after a certain amount of time? I've been carving monsters but nothing is in my inventory.
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>>144396791
That's how it works.
Rusted/ancient weapons are meant to be rare.
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>>144397452
You sure you aren't full inventory?
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>>144397608
I've got no problems picking shards up during G2 Rathalos charm runs, but yeah, worn seems much harder to come by. Suppose I have to go and collect some at high rank for a better chance, then?
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Anyone have low rank Basarios, Velocidrome, and Kut Ku they could send me?
Don't really care about layout or rewards
35-8158-7179-5206
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>>144397704

I've got plenty of space. Does it have to do with the quest limiting in the game?
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>>144397823
Yes.
Once you're out of tickets, and if you've hit your weekly limit, you stop getting rewards, with the exception of zenny IIRC.
It's part of china's laws to stop excessive mmo gaming.
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>>144397823
Ah yeah, if you're out of tickets, and you use the zeny option, you don't get rewards anymore. It's just for achievement hunting at that point.

>>144397924
desu I'm pretty okay with it. It forces me to stop and actually do something productive for the day.
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I'm about to start 4U, anything I should know?
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>>144398161
Don't get hit, hit it until it dies.

There's one of each weapon type available in the chest in your house.
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>>144397364
anon, you are not supposed to use your weapons to kill the mini caeserbers
they give you like 2 meme explosive items in the blue box
kill them with those
since we're on this subject, i noticed that quests with that background have a time limit, what are they exactly? some kind of event?
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So I just got to G-Rank in MH4U and I am wondering about all this relic armor/weapon nonsense.

How does it work, plus is there any way to dictate the appearance of a set? I want to get the EX Rebellion appearance since I am a scrub.
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Hey, sorry to bother. What would be a good armor set on mhp3rd for DS? I'm hr2 in the guild and someone adviced me to use the jaggi one, but I can't see why it is good
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>>144399982
Believe it's either the letter at the end of the series name as well and/or the monster

>Just got to G-Rank

Do not worry about relics until later, especially armor. Monsters in Lv140 GQs are much tougher than G3.
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>>144400369

I see, to be honest I think the system is kind of stupid, I am just mildly interested in making a nice looking set with good skills, but I've heard stories of people grinding for weeks.

Is it really worth it in the end?
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>>144400369
(Different guy) Since you seem to be in the know about power levels, what would you consider the "best" CB full set? What should I be aiming at as "the last set I'll ever need".
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>>144400687
No such thing. All weapons should ideally have specialized sets for individual monsters or groups of monsters. For example, having Guard+2 when not needed is extremely wasteful, but many people include it in their general use sets.
Don't use full sets unless you want to fashion hunt, in which case don't pick based on what someone tells you or what skills it has.
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>>144400197
No early sets are actually good, so going with ones that give you something offensive is generally good, and Jaggi gives attack up. You can change to something else in later low rank if you feel like it, but it's also fine to just use it until high rank and pick up an early high rank set instead.
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>>144400602
Though it's dependent on the weapon, good relic weapons that are worthwhile are much more difficult to get than the armor/pre-placed gem combo you want. At least you get the opportunity to obtain more Distorted and Graven charms in the process, I guess.

To be fair, the endgame would otherwise be about hunting monsters you want and fulfilling self-imposed goals like every other MH. Which you can still do here.

>>144400687
>Since you seem to be in the know about power levels

Not really. What I do know is that you simply have different sets to take on different monsters, a good example of this is against Gravios.

As far as weapons go though, Ceadeus Regalia is an excellent CB that's obtainable before G-Crown. You just need to get past Naked & Afraid.
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Tips for the Master's Test?
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>>144327984
i still wanna fuck them cats
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>>144402250
abuse cages
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>>144402250
>Depending on what Blademaster weapon you're using, make a set with HGE and Tremor Resist
>HGE to give you easy openings, Tremor Resist for Jho; though something like CB won't really need these

>Smoke bomb and activate gate if you need it
>Go for Steve first, he looks through smoke
>Don't carve him when he dies, use the time before Jho appears
>Play chicken with Diablos, don't mount unless it's apex
>Watch Apex Jho's tremors if you're on the wrong side
>Make sure their legs are not OK

I narrowly beat it with Rogue Sedition + Garuga Mask w/ Diablos X for the rest of the armor
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Any rooms up?
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>>144403627
Now TA it, dude.
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>>144404371
...maybe. What do you have in mind?
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>>144404371
Practicing naked Canon/ballista only dahren if you wanna join
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>>144405134
Nothing in particular. Maybe some early HR quests in MHX. Will it be even possible to import these saves into MHGen?
Or if you need to hunt something in 4U I could do that too.
>>144405186
Doesn't sound like fun to be honest.
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>>144405261
Just for my hr 998-999 hunt as a throw back to the first hunt in 4u
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So I haven't played Monster Hunter since the Wii U and I'm probably rusty as fuck.

I plan on getting Monster Hunter Generations but would it be a good idea to practice 3U before playing MHG?
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>>144405340
MHX is pretty conceptual as far as gameplay goes. It isn't exactly analogous with any of the past titles.

If you remember the fundamentals of the game you'll probably be fine just going in blind.
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>>144405261
>Or if you need to hunt something in 4U I could do that too.

I do have a few things I want to make just for the sake of making them
>>
the strongest weapons should never play out of position. if an IG is hitting the back legs and you dont want to get tripped, either play a weapon with super armor or get away from the backlegs. if a hammer is golf swinging at a monster's head, get away from the head. honestly, lance users should either stick to single player or learn how to use a real multiplayer weapon.
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>>144395985
>implying it's hacked
I don't even know how to do that shit

I do know it's a legit charm though, I just about shat myself when that showed up in the appraisal screen

Would be nice if the Fast Charge was higher, I don't know what the limits are on charms but apparently +14 is the max for many skills so maybe Fast Charge is max +10 or +9? Would be cool to have yet another 3 slots free or something

Also, what would an optimized GS set look like? I'm thinking Focus, Sharpness +1 (if needed), some attack skill (AuXL, Honed Blade, Challenger +2) and then utility stuff like Tremor or razor sharp?
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>>144406121
There is a charm table in the paste bin that tells you everything what charms are possible,
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>>144406250
Looked up Fast Charge, so it looks like +7 is the max roll for that skill on my given charm type

Thanks for linking that though, it'll come in handy trying to figure out which ones are worth keeping, I really need to clean out my shitty charms.
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>>144296773
Were do I download monster hunter online because this is just a patch
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>rath marrow on first tail carve, first time hunting rathalos
ho lee fuk
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>>144406390
You realize lying when anyone can just open the page doesn't work very well? The max roll is 6. Your charm is hacked.
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>>144406460
>First time hunting online
>Teostra
>Okay, cool
>Teostra Gem first carve
>???

You're not the only one, then there's this

>Hunting Kushala Daora
>Need his tail
>Hunt him 10 times before successfully cutting tail
>Carves tail
>Daora Gem
>"...fuck this shit"
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>>144406824
Well that's simply impossible, because my friend who gave me that charm doesn't cheat. I know he doesn't.
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>>144406964
don't worry friend, I had to hunt gore 10 times in order to get 3 tails

I got 7 plates in the process
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>>144406824
Actually I just said the completely wrong value the first time. It is +6 in my game. I have no idea where I got +7 from.

That's probably a sign I should go to sleep. Math was never my strong suit.

>>144407172
>implying I have friends.
is there even a save editor for 4U that isn't power saves?
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>>144407205
The funny part is, I'm farming Kushy to make a weapon against Kushy
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>>144406964
Dang, if you were farming Kush for tails I wouldn't mind helping. Maybe next time.
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>>144408056
yeaaah, no...
Sorry man, but my internet connections is so shitty, loading this thread takes about 5 mins.
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can I get some tips on solo hunting savage jho?

hate this cunt
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>>144409096
get _____gud
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>>144409096
>bring null-berries
>learn the tells for his moves (which means hunting him more than once... Shitty I know)
>mount him whenever you can
>bring some of those tainted meat or drugged meat

that's all I can give you, I personally hunt him only with sleep or para weapons and bombs or the nerscilla CB
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>>144409096
Bring tremor res, hug his manly chest and hump the legs with a thunder weapon.
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i played this game all friday and my wrist still hurts
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>>144410441
take fap breaks next time
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>>144410313
Also, depending on your weapon it's a rare actually good use for mind's eye, which makes star knight a very good instead of meme good choice. That's why it's used in this run >>144376174
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>>144410557
won't that make the other one sore too
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i didn't read the in game introduction to honing and i can't find it anywhere in pastebin/gdocs guide
which hone type is da best for IG
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>>144411646
Depends on what you're looking for, your armor, what's your play style, if you need damage or something to help you along a hunt, It's really just up to you
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>>144411646
life honing is amazing
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>>144412419
i was thinking about life honing so i can get rid of recovery up and maybe people will laugh at me less often
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>>144411646
???
>>
>search monster hunter on youtube
>sort by date posted
>frontier
>p3rd
>freedom 2
>freedom unite
>mho
>witcher 3
>mhp3rd
>mho
>mho
>mh4u
>mho
>mhx
>mh4u
>mho
>mhfu
>mho
>mhp3rd
What went wrong?
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>join a random room
>he posts a quest
>"pls help me :)"
>well, okay
>carts twice in a row in 5 minutes
>quits
Why the fuck did you do that, you moron? I soloed the monster a few minutes later. They can't even get carried properly.
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>>144412994
>What went wrong?
MH3U is shit, apparently.
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>>144412994
>search monster hunter on youtube
>sort by relevance
>watchmojo
>top 10 list
>top 10 list
>cancer animation
>DID YA KNOW GAYMEN
>MHX/gen trailer
>top 10 list
>GH trash
>least 10 list
What went wrong?
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>>144413147
Can't record the 3ds version without a hardmod/cfw, and the wii u version needs a capture card. P3rd on an emulator is alot easier for people to make videos for.
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Give me one reason why being knocked down doesn't sheathe your weapon
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>>144413929
Why can hunter-san sheathe really fast any weapon when he needs to cover his ears?
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>1 slot short of getting both attack up XL and HG plugs
FUCK
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>>144414260
There's wind, too. Looks really stupid when you get blown with a GS, or a Lance.
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>>144413463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p589Ld71-3w
This was painful
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>>144412912
>Every weapon but SA just states attack honing is recommended
>SA: Attack Honing is preferred, some like Life Honing.
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>>144411646
As always, if you're confident in your ability attack is best, but in the case of IG all three can be useful. Your attacks lock you in place for a while so defence can be useful if you suck at timing, and you have decent MVs and hit constantly so you should heal as soon as it's off cooldown (plus the kinsect, whose charged shot has a very high mv if you want to use that to heal selectively) so life can be great too.
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>>144414775
>no mention of HH life hone gimmick where you never have to sheathe Seregios

Let's be honest, that guide writer did alright but definitely doesn't main every weapon
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>>144414962
Pretty much this. I gave him a fairly long list of revisions/tips for the weapons I use most often when he first wrote it.

I think a lot of it is carefully stepping around /mhg/'s tryhard culture, though. Every weapon says "just use attack honing dude" and either "lmao don't use evasion skills" or "evasion skills are okay but not really." Meanwhile basically the only weapons that don't benefit hugely from evasion skills are guard lance, gs and bow, life honing is tremendously good on several weapons and defence is good on everything if you're the kind of person who gets hit.
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>>144415261
Don't be a shitter, Anon.
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Guys its possible to play monster hunter online in europe? :)
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>>144415334
A shitter either carts or does less actual damage because they won't bring a necessary or virtually necessary evasion skill over a 7% boost in raw.
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>>144415538
I don't run any evasion skills and roll through things just fine.
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>>144415768
>lying on the internet
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>>144415768
you straight up can't roll through some stuff without evasion skills
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>>144415768
That's you, if true. Do you speak for everyone?
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>>144416882
Never said I rolled through everything. You should avoid most attacks with positioning even if you're able to roll them.

>>144416918
No. I'm saying evasion skills aren't necessary or virtually necessary which has nothing to do with speaking for everyone. Anyone can roll through the attacks I do with some practice.
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Why are Tigrex weapons SO strong in MHX? Were they even that good in MHF2?
Not that I complain.
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>>144417494
Because Tigrex is retard strength: the monster
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>Striker Hunting Horn
>mfw
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>>144417297
>You should avoid most attacks with positioning
If you're a gunner. With BM hitting weakspots is equally if not more important.
>A shitter either carts or does less actual damage
Shitter.
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>>144418175
And that's why almost all TAs are done with no evasion skills, because the people doing them are all shitters, every last one of them.
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Is there any way to sign up for MHO without a mobile phone?
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>>144417297
Not everyone is necessarily good at that. You are speaking for yourself.
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>>144418329
>even bringing up TAs
A large number of TAs use either main evasion skill, actually. But hey, let's pretend you're right about that and not just talking out of your ass for the sake of argument and go over all the OTHER problems with your argument.

Record TAs represent the best times of the best players. Necessarily only the one to three best times submitted are kept for each weapon, which means over time they'll come closer to representing a PERFECT player with PERFECT RNG. This is not only not representative of how well that player will hunt on a regular basis (everyone has good and bad days, RNG is not always cooperative and almost never perfect), it is only representative of an extremely discrete and insignificant portion of players. Of the millions that play the game, only a few dozen hold TA records.

TAs, while necessarily representative or close to representative of perfect play and RNG, are not necessarily representative of perfect tactics, weapon choice or armour skills. While they are likely to be, due to the nuance of the community it is entirely possible and, as time has shown (with the "meta" of TAs changing drastically), likely for TAs to be using suboptimal skill or weapon combinations.

Veteran players will have little use for the portion of the guide that lists skills. Referencing it for things like MVs I can imagine for instance, since it's a lot clearer than other english language guides available on which attack is which. Armour skill recommendations are useless for people who are already very experienced with the game, however (enough so to consistently dodge attacks for which it is possible with 6 iframes, and avoid others entirely with no relevant skills). This necessarily eliminates the people running TAs as well.

You're probably looking at only 140s too but since that's baseless (you haven't specifically said so) I won't go into what's wrong with that.
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>turn around
>charge
>turn around
>charge
>turn around charge
>REEEEEEE
>go underground
>charge
the fight design on the diablos I mean wow
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Anyone use the 2DS to play?
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>>144419784
I wouldn't mind diablos as much if he didn't slide 2 miles past you. At least when barroth missed he stopped almost right behind you.
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>>144419784
Use Desert Rose.
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Are these any good?

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u/weapon/dualblades/dual-dragons-angst
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>no MHO weapon translations yet

ree
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>>144419784
>REEEEE
>windpress
>unborrow immediatly
>one shot
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>>144420808
Le Shangri-la is better due to it's 40% affinity and better sharpness. It's also easier to make. You can also create the Fatalis tree if you want more damage at the cost of elemental damage and negative affinity.
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>>144420905

How long till we get a full translation?
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>>144419480
I brought up TAs because you brought up doing less damage for lacking evasion skills.

>A large number of TAs use either main evasion skill, actually
Assuming we're not talking about gunners with EE, the only examples I can think of off the top of my head are evade lance strategies.

>PERFECT player with PERFECT RNG
Just about none of which has anything to do with evasion skills. It's very rare that someone going for a TA would be resetting because they were having issues getting hit or failing rolls, except in the case of rng where you're waiting for a run where you get away with something risky.
That's a risk/reward thing, and a player of record TA caliber can easily alter their play to be safer.
There are very few situations where an evasion skill can actually remove the risk from such a situation.

>TAs to be using suboptimal skill or weapon combinations.
The only way this becomes relevant is if there's a development of some kind of specific strategy that involves evasion skills, which is extremely rare just due to the nature of losing a purely offensive skill for evasion. It'd have to be a strategy that can be used a ton in some fight.

I didn't really reply because of the guide, so I won't comment on that. I'm only arguing that evasion skills aren't "necessary or virtually necessary"

>You're probably looking at only 140s
I am not. Much of this is from TA experience, though I obviously don't have times as good as the top Japanese players.
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>>144421313
I need the 3 slots
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>>144421351
Tencent are exhibitors at E3 this year so hopefully soon.
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>>144421420
It's just League of Legends, don't kid yourself.
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>>144420808
>>144421418
Fatalis are better and have 3 slots.
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>>144422096
I'm not using s+1 though, and fatalis has barely any sharpness without it
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>>144422063
;___;
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>>144422241
I think your set is shit then, scratch it.
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>>144422306
Muh fashion
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>>144407305
>is there even a save editor for 4U that isn't power saves?
Yes, there is. There's actually a couple, one of which is browser-based.
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>>144422063
>We realized the game is shit so we're closing the servers unless you, the players, fund it
>they fund it
>they still shut it down
make it happen
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Are there any monsters that are in 4U but not Gen?
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>>144426938
http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHGen:_Monsters
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>>144426938
Nerscylla, the giant Elders, and all subspecies.
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>>144427176
Also Fatalis, Basarios, Gravios, and the Blos. Good riddance.
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>>144427354
Only shitters dislike Gravios, anyone can triplock it with Water Attack+3
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>>144419989
yeah
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>>144427354
Fatalis is fun, fuck the others though.
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>>144427354
>Fatalis
why? he's a pretty cool guy
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>>144428031
Wounds left from grinding him in F1 and FU never healed.
The full gunner set from crimson and the full blade set from White were both amazing
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>>144428206
he was cake is f1 tho. all you had to do was get behind his leg while he humped the wall.

unless you mean crimson. fuck that one. armor mode is the worst gimmick.
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>>144428297
No, what I mean is Fatalis was a completely boring fight and took a long time to kill. The only saving grace were the event quests where they had reduced HP
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how do i get more guild quests?
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>>144428756

ask on gamefaqs
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best set
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Got room for one more hunter, doing G-rank stuff in MH4U, game is up now!
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>>144429308

Sou dess ne
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I fucking hate tigrex
I fucking hate zinogre
I fucking hate raths
I fucking hate blos
I fucking hate brach
I fucking hate this game
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>>144429708
Good. Monsters aren't really supposed to be your friends.
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Ledges ruined Monster Hunter
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>>144430659

Chameleos is my friend!
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>>144430804
Thanks for the max potion, goy!
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>>144430803
>tfw verticality is here to stay

brb, jumping off a ledge
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>>144298232
Good, but not essential. Just use seregios bowgun or git better at jump reloads.
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>>144431220
Verticality itself isn't bad, but they went overboard with littering every inch of every zone with jump pads
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>>144431220
the only thing ledges are good for is hanging my noose from when i fuckin peace out due to ledges being everyewhere
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did mhx tone down mh4u's spastic monster ai
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>>144431418
It servers no purpose to improve gameplay, it's just there for graphic fags to say "wow so much more ORGANIC".
Any weapon can jump to mount and bring down a flying monster in X now, ledges are worthless and only get in your way.
2nd gen had the right idea to have them way back at the corner of any zone to not interfere with the fight.
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>>144430804
Knew you'd take the cutepost bait
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>>144388682
If you're not hitting the head you're not doing it right. Only status weps go for the feet
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>>144336917
The lack of quick response is really what's lacking in the monhun community. Also, immediately making them feel like an idiot... Pathetic.
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>>144430804
Friends let friends rim them!
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>>144432191

dude i'm gonna be real here
i want cham-cham to rim me so fucking bad
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>>144432430
The only reason people post chameleos is because they enjoy that though or cham doing it on huntresses because they are monster cucks.

Prove me wrong.
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>>144432430
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>>144423823
browser based one is ded
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Would I be fine skipping MH4U and getting Generations? I'm playing 3U at the moment.
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hot off the bad ideas express
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>>144433632
No. Play 4U for sure.
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>Get pinned at high HP against furious rajang
>Scroll over to dung bombs and throw one
>Nearly died in the few seconds that took

I didn't realize rape ape was a literal term. So I guess if you don't bring dung bombs its a guaranteed cart if you get pinned?
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>>144433869
>getting pinned by rajang
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>>144433728
I like how it has no offensive skills.
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>>144434163
>sharpness+1
>critical eye
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>>144434374
>S+1 when HB is easy to get
>CE
>In 4U
Keep trying.
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>>144433761
True. They are both phenomenal. Who's planning on getting X the moment it comes out?! :3
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>>144434374
>>144434490
critical eye was just because Athena's ASS said it was possible
it took like 20 minutes redoing the search with CE added so i could have a cleaner screenshot
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Whats a good set after garuga?
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>>144434490
CE is an extremely cheap and commonly free skill that's worth about the same as AUS.

Sharpness+1 is still a substantial attack increase on most weapons. The fact that a better skill exists (that is in fact much harder to get and virtually impossible to get with a set that doesn't look like you just crawled out of a dumpster) is irrelevant to the fact that it is one of the best (if not simply the best) offencive skills.
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>>144434814
garuga s
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>>144434814
If you like earplugs then you're going to be dealing with garuga for life bruh. Garuga mail just gets better each rank unlike some other sets, and garuga mask is just too strong if you want to avoid garuga mail
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>>144434948
crit eye is shit In 4u m8
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>>144434948
>>144434806
He'd get much betters skills if he dropped all those useless defensive ones. If he needed to avoid tremor. windpress, and roars that bad just get E+1.
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>>144433728
Isn't T res and windproof overkill? I just finished this set. Too bad I can't do anything with the three slots.
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>>144435678
>Pierce
>Weakness Exploit
You've never looked at shot hitzones, did you?
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>>144435678
it's not overkill if it can't kill anything
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>>144435779
It comes with the 15 affinity to bring D arm up to 0. Would auxl and negative affinity be better than weakness exploit? I also just realized I may be able to add quick sheath to it.
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>>144435391
It's worth exactly what I said it was worth.

To spell it out for you, CE+1 is an additional 10% affinity. Affinity is the chance to crit. A crit is +25% damage on top of all other modifiers. 10% of 25% is 2.5%, the average attack boost of CE+1. The average final G rank weapon (assuming best of element/raw/status, attack honing, etc or top-tier relic) has about 280-360 raw. That's the equivalent 7 to 9 raw. Of course, it gains more value the more raw you have stacked on top of it. AUS is 10 points of raw. CE is worth only slightly less. AUXL is 2.5x that, 25 raw, which is about a 7-9% increase in power, compared to CG which is a flat 7.5%. Of course, if you combine the two, CG is adding 22-28 raw, potentially worth more than AUXL itself.

>>144435519
I'm 99% sure that he picked it for aesthetics, which are frankly more important than skills. He also said
>hot off the bad ideas express

>>144435678
Windproof is the most useful imo. Every fucking thing applies windpress, even burrowing monsters that should logically apply tremor instead, and I might just be bad at identifying where the frames are but I have never successfully rolled wind while with a little practice anyone should be able to roll most roars and tremors.
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>>144436502
It's very easy to make a set with RD1,EE,Pierce Up and at least two offensive skills.
Load up is useless since you can load six shots (and in total you'd reload only 9 times instead of 10)
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>>144436508
tldr ce is never worth the slot
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Need one more hunter, MH4U, come kill some Brachy's with us.
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>>144433761
Is 4U better?
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>>144436508
>aesthetics
>more important than skills
Where's shaggy when you need him?
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>>144436508
>>144436793
That's not how you use CE, you use it to neuter negative affinity, and if you can, to make it positive. It's very good at that and gets even better when Challenger activates.
What is correct is that CE is not exactly an offensive skill but something along the lines of Razor Sharp.
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>>144436508
Break even for CE is about 400 true raw iirc, including drugs and whatever. Honestly I prefer CE over attack up anyway since potentially hitting a burst of criticals has more value than being 1% more damaging on average to me.

>aesthetics
>That set
lol
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>>144436975
room?
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>>144436793
No, tl;dr it's almost identical to AU. It's only slightly less valuable and if a set has more points in it to begin with than in attack up it's absolutely worth going for.
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>>144437074

53-9062-7407-2839

PW is: 7243
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>>144437128
>CE ~identical to AU
Please stop posting.
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>>144436997
yeah
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>>144437012
>you use it to neuter negative affinity, and if you can, to make it positive
Oh, and it's worth even more then since it's the same increase on a lower initial value.

>>144437072
>>aesthetics
>>That set
>lol
I didn't say it had good aesthetics, just that I'm pretty sure that's why he made it. Garuga is one of the ugliest sets in the game, might as well clownsuit.
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>>144437192
im g1. is that ok senpai
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>>144437254
y-you too
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>>144437339

s'all gud
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>>144437254
You'll understand when you get to g rank and 10 points of raw becomes a 3% increase and not a 10%.
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>>144437318
Yeah, the difference between negative affinity and positive affinity is what makes things like BFB better than Cera, it's a very valuable skill in that case (Not only on GS) but it's otherwise pretty much only used for Element Crit sets.
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Dumbass question, but how do I unlock HR meowster hunters?
I don't even need a specific end of trip monster, I just want HR rhenoplos so I can make HR mosgharl gear for them.
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>>144414775
I can actually answer that
Something about SA means that if you hit someone with life honing doing 90% of the moves in sword mode, it restores health that's worth about a mega potion.
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>>144437128
anon, we understand that crit eye is your favorite skill but you have to accept its shit
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A E S T H E T I C
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Let it be known that I really dislike Yian Garuga, even if I can beat it solo without carting and it takes like 20+ minutes to do so.
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57-7502-6980-5523
PW: 7243

Got DC'd
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>>144437473
Have fun in 140s with your Sharpness+1, and CE.
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>>144437772
show me your maths, nerd
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>>144437903
Okay I actually like this one. The witch theme makes it way better, and garuga mail x is actually pretty nice looking with the cape and fur around the neck. Mizuha and the cape recolor really well as an added bonus
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>>144437903
>HG Earplugs, windproof
>with E+1
Anon, come on now.
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>>144415261
It does not recommend defensive skills like Evasion or Honings because those are preferences, not recommended skills.
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this looks awful
i bet you'll laugh at the skills too
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>>144438412
The skillset is very light but it's alright
Sort by family, not base defense.
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>>144437903
>seltas faulds
That's gonna look bad ingame.
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>>144438575
>>144438589
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>>144437270
Why? Gen looks cool with the new styles and felynes.
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>>144436749
I don't have any good attack or challenger charms and I don't like negative affinity so I'm happy with it. Peak performance is annoying to maintain, which is what my old set had. I lost PP and reload -1 and got load up and WE, I'd call that a significant upgrade, plus 30 extra defense. The larger mag is nice for apex removal and two wyvern fires is fun.
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>>144438853
youre only g2, why are you making mixed sets?
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>>144438987
i herd 4U has better overall gameplay but i'll wait until Gens is actually out instead of trying X to decide for myself
also theres no reason you can't get both
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>>144439061
Nothing wrong with, however
>Use up to two skill charms
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>>144438589
The cape helps hide it at least

>>144438853
Try steady hand instead of RS. I just made this search exclusively star knight since it looks good on females, but you can quick search if you like clownsuits
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>>144439061
i've been using mixed sets since HR6 because it's fun
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>>144439174
dont i need to unlock G3 to get star knight?
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>>144439174
>it looks good on females
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>>144439414
It's just one rank though
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>>144439061
Taking the time to smell the roses is fun, that's why.
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>>144437597
anyone?
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>Still playing 4u
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>>144442190
>Not playing BlancheU
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>cap a rathian
>get 2 rubies
I just wanted a medulla...
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>>144439116
whats wrong
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>>144296773

Link to discord for the guys who wanted it https://discord.gg/0T88LKwjLZFFlpi4
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i unlocked and did a test run of goggy last night, and the first shiny drop was his wartorn dragonsphire

any fun gogmazios weapons i should aim for?
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>>144430803
I quite enjoyed the ledges actually.
I do wish they would make the options you have around ledges deeper. For instance, having different attacks while next to ledges as opposed to just jumping off them....
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>>144439259
Tru niqqa.
>>
what if mh5 has
>underwater combat
>je suis monte
>styles
>hunter arts
>nyanters
at the same time
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>>144443780
It won't because Japanese games in the same series always have something the others don't.
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>>144434767
No one?
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>>144437903
would this be good for HH
i want to be the magical girl
also i've never used HH before
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>>144444194
I probably will
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>>144443780
if its not on 3ds, i'll play it
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>>144444423
yesssssssss
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>>144445836

The only monsters this is good for are Raths, which you admittedly spend the entire game up until endgame farming, so I guess that's not bad.
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>>144442893
Dual Blades and Hunting Horn are pretty much the only ones worth the effort.
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>>144446196
alright, thanks for the tip
the HH sounds really cool
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>>144445836
You should consider the specific weapon too. Good horns typically have earplugs or windproof songs, and in the case of seregios and gogma horns they don't even need handicraft
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>>144445836
>>144439174
>>144438853
>>144438412
>use up to two skill charms
>+5 wind res, +5 handicraft OOO
>+5 wind res, handicraft+7 OOO
stop doing that
you will literally never get that.
use -one- skill charm if you're making a set you're trying to share with others
or my charms if you're just looking for yourself
And stop entering G2 for guild quests
G3 is -one- rank away, you shit.

and gog weapons don't need handicraft, like >>144446540 said
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>>144446540
i made magia charm
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>>144447581
>relying on dumb luck for good charms
haha
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>>144447581
i have a wind res +5
i can use that with steve's hh right?
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>>144447791
>cheating, instead of using what you have/earning those better charms
>which is the point of the game, straight from the developers mouth.
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>>144446540
M. Tigrex doesn't either, it gets barely any purple and has a shitload of white regardless. Especially with razor sharp, but it really doesn't require sharpness skills at all.
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>>144448635
>"earning" charms
>"earning" complete rng results
ok whatever you say
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>>144324972
Fuck, I'm on 2-1. Are characters shared between servers or would I need to make a new one?
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>>144448292
steve's horn has wind pressure negate already.
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>>144448591
Make it a turn based isometric strategy game about the dragon wars.

>>144448753
The latter.
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>>144448813
Fffffucking shit, I really don't want to go through all the retarded tutorials again. Guess it's the chinks for me.
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How hard is it to install the english patch for MHO?
Turns out I already had the game installed from a while back, willing to try it out again with it.
I'm like 90% sure I'm on the right server, as well.
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>>144304481
no, you're a shitter for playing MHO.
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>>144448898
I'm in the same boat, but not the same server unfortunately. 1-7 here.
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Do any of you still use mycology as a 5-slot? I'm using an m.tiggy weapon so I have bombardier active currently and I don't really gain much from speed sharpening, but I was considering going for mycology instead.
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>>144449020
Is it as bad as people say? Everything seems kinda off, at least in the gameplay I've seen so far
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>>144449234
Tremor/Bio/Maestro/Etc>Speed Sharpening>Mycology/Divine Blessing/Speedsetup>Everything else
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>>144449852
Flame aura falls into Etc right
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>>144449852
>speedsetup that low
>bio that high
>no bomb boost
bomb boost/speedsetup/sharpener > tremor res > everything else is the real list
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>Making Charm Farm build
>One Charm can give me Charm God, Speed Gatherer and Gathering +2
>Check Kiranico for Torso Up armor
>Remobra Hands gives Torso Up
>Check ingame
>It doesn't

What the fuck?
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>>144450957
Mechanic is not a 5slotter and is shit for most weapons.
Bio opens lots of opportunities for Teo and M.Tigrex
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>>144451243
>[\spoiler]
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Is there an actual decent guide for MHO anywhere? This Facebook one sucks and is outdated.
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>>144450957
Oh, and Maestro up there obviously.

>>144451196
I didn't list mechanic. Bomb boost and speedsetup are the component skills of mechanic, which is a composite skill. Mechanic not only isn't a five slotter, it has no jewel, including relic jewels, and can only be had from lunastra armour and the craftsman's specs (which give it on their own). It's not even on relics like the other composite skills.

There is no weapon for which the ability to quickly set up traps and bombs or having better bombs are not big advantages, they just happen to be the most useful on SnS in normal play.

You can just roll three times to get rid of blastblight, getting hit by another blast cloud does not set off the explosion and you have a pretty long period in which to get rid of it before it goes off automatically. Teo and M Tigrex are also only two monsters.
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>>144451243
It's realizing you don't need honed blade weakness exploit challenger to have fun and you aren't -that- much worse off using convenience and fun skills.

When you really want big dommoge you can just run adrenaline alongside some convenience/fun skills since palico bro and booty pants exist to do more damage than any non-adrenaline set and have more fun anyway.
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>>144451243
baby don't hurt me

>>144451487
What kind of guide are you actually looking for famalam? "This facebook one" isn't very descriptive. 2p has a bunch of guides on it, though many of them are outdated.
http://2p.com/game/U00572/Monster-Hunter-Online.htm
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>>144451648
It's a lot easier to fit a single head piece than free 5-10 slots.

There are, like more than half of them.

And waste time, having Bio allows you to take shorter routes or walk through dust, it also means you can get unlucky and get hit right after getting blighted.
Of course these are only two monsters, just like Rajang and Jho are only two monsters.
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HH is difficult how do i git gud
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>>144452328
>It's a lot easier to fit a single head piece than free 5-10 slots.
That really depends. Not usually on endgame armour, which tends to have both a lot of slots and fairly expensive concrete skills, with a heavy bias toward head and to a lesser extent arm skills. We're discussing five slot skills here anyway, so presumably this is with five spare slots (so nothing but a five slot skill can be fit) on an otherwise complete set of armour. Either of those skills will always be preferable to bio researcher.

>There are, like more than half of them.
Name two.

>And waste time, having Bio allows you to take shorter routes or walk through dust
You can do that anyway, and very very rarely need to regardless if your positioning isn't shit to begin with. I thought you were talking about M tigrex's wandering clouds that zip all over the map or Teostra's brief cloud around its body when it starts charging an explosive volley, which are both actually difficult to avoid and don't require you to be playing badly beforehand to get hit by.

>it also means you can get unlucky and get hit right after getting blighted.
If you're getting hit it isn't an opening you're exploiting, you're just being dumb.

>Of course these are only two monsters, just like Rajang and Jho are only two monsters.
It's not like they and one other monster are literally the only ones that have tremors though.
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>>144452645
I write down my current horn's songs so I can glance at them if I forget them.

x+a-x+a is your strongest combo in terms of damage and exhaust but the second x+a (first if you start with forward+x+a) does the faceplant launch (the extra bad one) on allies, x-a-x-a is your best in terms of stun and merely trips allies if they don't have poise, forward+x-x+a-forward+x-x+a is a mostly vertical and somewhat non-disruptive combo that does raw damage between the two and gets good vertical reach but be careful not to forward+x+a around people or again you can launch allies face first into the dirt even if they have poise.

While readying a song, if you have the colour on a in the middle of the song, press forward+a and then press the note after it to play the two together more quickly with the double swing. A similar trick is that after dodging off of a ledge with the horn drawn you can press any button to play that note with the aerial attack.

AUL is by far the strongest song (and AUS is probably second), but don't be afraid to play around with fun utility horns- They may not help you kill the monster faster but they can actually make the hunt easier than AUL would, depending on the horn and monster. In multi-HH teams only one person should bother with AUL ideally, and since the melody extender horns have AUL it should probably be them.
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>>144453232
You almost never have 5 slots free on a set, and when you do it's most likely thanks to a Fatalis weapons' 3 slots (and those need speed sharpening)

GL, SA

Not being blighted by any teo dust is an incredible time saver (Head dust, Leg dust, Tail whip,Claw swipe, back hop), Bio allows you to hit M.Tigrex's claws a lot more in rage mode, especially after roars

That's not my point, I said Bio would save your life if you got unlucky after being blighted

They're the only ones that make it worth anything, Tremors on Congalalas or Gravioses is completely irrelevant and doesn't change a thing.
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>>144452645
>>144454074
Oh also while it does less exhaust than forward+x+a the standing x+a is, as alluded to, a lot less disruptive to allies, does the same amount of damage as the second (much more powerful) hit of forward+x+a and moves you backward a bit (which can be a good or a bad thing depending on how you're using it). Since it does so much damage so immediately and the hitbox starts low I often find myself getting trips and staggers with it.
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mh5 has a mini monster companion instead of cats and you can ride around on it like a mount
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I can't help it... I luv them. Anyone else at PHO comicon?
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>>144444113
Can't mean it won't have those, plus something new.
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>>144454928
They have to keep older games unique
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Someone please help, I am still trying to understand the rewards system

So there is a 12% chance I'll get an inferno sac from carving, but a 15% chance I'll get one from capturing. But I get 3 carves. Does that mean I have a better chance at getting it if I carve?
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>>144455119
3x12
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>>144454315
>You almost never have 5 slots free on a set, and when you do it's most likely thanks to a Fatalis weapons' 3 slots (and those need speed sharpening)
If you don't have five slots free and you don't have one as a free or partial skill on a talisman you don't get a five slot skill then. In comparing five slot skills, cases in which you do not have five slots are irrelevant. I also listed speed sharpening in the same tier as bomb boost and speedsetup, that is, the top.

>GL, SA
Wow, I was unaware that gunlance didn't have charged shots or wf which take a while to execute and are made significantly easier with traps, that SA's highest-damage combo didn't lock it in place with high commitment which makes it significantly easier to use with traps, and that both weapons actually did enough damage to be able to scoff at extra damage from bombs, and weren't the second and third weakest weapons. Clearly I know nothing about them, since I was under the impression that they were among those that benefited the MOST.

>Not being blighted by any teo dust is an incredible time saver (Head dust, Leg dust, Tail whip,Claw swipe, back hop)
All of teo's can be avoided with good positioning while still hitting weak spots, even with SnS/DB, with the exception of the aforementioned spontaneous cloud around its body, which also offers a huge window after which in which the monster is not attacking you so there is no risk in ignoring rolling until teo finishes its sequence and you lose your opening anyway. With most weapons you will have rolled or sidestepped it away just from resetting combos by then anyway.

Again with Tigrex's, the only ones you should be hit by are the wandering ones.

>Tremors on Congalalas or Gravioses is completely irrelevant and doesn't change a thing.
Don't know where you get that they're completely irrelevant when both are more relevant than teo and molten tigrex for blastblight, and several other monsters yet have tremors.
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game pls. What about this is rare?
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>>144455215
technically 1 - ((1 - .12 )^ 3)
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>>144455602
It has three mazes in the middle of the two areas you can actually fight in.
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>>144448591
Okay... Hear me out... In the next MH you can play not only as Hunter but also as the monster!

Truly competitive online play. :)
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>>144456141
How was evolved anyway
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my least favorite part about MH is the rare drops and how breaking stuff works.

Like if you wanted a Diablos horn, how does it make sense to completely destroy the horn during the hunt in order to receive the horn? It seems like destroying it would be the last thing you'd want, which if weapons were stronger and fights were more intense instead of lasting upwards of 15 minutes, would be more of a challenge since in order to get the horn you wouldn't be able to attack it's head aka weak spot for most monsters.

Furthermore why do you have to cut off the tail in order to get a tail piece when you have either killed or captured the monster whole at the end of the hunt either way? Why can't you just carve from the tail still attached to the dead monster?

The only thing that has slight believability is how the monster gems work cause maybe its like only a few monsters get mature enough to grow them, but i'd still rather have some kind of guarantee i'd be fighting a more mature/more challenging/strong monster version with a guarantee of getting that gem instead of grinding fight after fighter after fight for a 2% drop.

basically these games have absolutely retarded logic and if anyone happened to have a conversation with any of the developers, they'd probably walk away dumber thanks to it.
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>>144456250
>anyone happened to have a conversation with any of the developers, they'd probably walk away dumber thanks to it.

"We though it would be more fun and interesting to do this instead of strictly following logic"

Oh man I feel so dumb now
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>>144448813
>turn based
...plz no
There is already stories
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>>144456505
>we thought it would be more fun and interesting
>its not though
you are dumb now.
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>>144456250
The idea is that you break the horn off, and it drops on the ground and you pick it up. Dev commentary in the artbook explains that they wanted you to be able to carve things off of monsters but also wanted hunters to be able to take better prizes from cutting off parts mid-hunt, but since they didn't want it to be too gross or unsettling like taking hides they made it mostly horns, teeth and tails.

In a perfect world everything would either drop like a tail or as a shiny right when you broke it and you'd be able to grab it immediately and not get it as a 15% after the quest, but I guess that wasn't feasible or thought of to begin with and now isn't done just because it's not how it's done.

>Furthermore why do you have to cut off the tail in order to get a tail piece when you have either killed or captured the monster whole at the end of the hunt either way?
That's a good question, though, but the answer frankly is just "game design."

>>144456527
I mean a grand strategy game, not a JRPG.
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>>144455553
Charged shots are the only shots you pull off if you ever shell (you shouldn't) because they do more DpH than normal shells (but less DpS)
WF is irrelevant, it's stupidly weak and a waste of time and if you need a trap to pull it off you have bigger issues than fitting a five slotter.
They're strong enough to not need bombs, what are you talking about? Not a single weapon in 4U is weak enough to NEED bombs. Are you basing yourself on 140 solo TA like an idiot?

It's only okay to skip it if you're soloing because Teo is noticably easier if you're being targeted. You can't always roll without wasting time and opportunites online and again, a lot less risky.

The same that cover both front legs and back legs.

All the tremors that come from other monsters always come from very wide attacks (Congalala/Gravios' jumps) that have somewhat lingering hitboxes.
I didn't say Tremor res on Jho/Jang was better than Bio, just that Bio on those was a lot better than Tremor Res on anything else.
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>>144456805
they could also just remove the dumb 3 cart limit and that would insure people could still get rad drops? I mean, the only thing worse than grinding on a hunt for 20 minutes for a rare drop is grinding on a hunt for 20 minutes then getting 3 carts and suddenly the 3 other people still alive just give up and lay in the dirt cause illogical butthurt or whatever.

Like just have carts linked to reward money. They could still keep the 3 karts, 0 zenny reward in there but at least let people get as many carts as they want to finish the hunt and get some carves. Not like they're going to be able to craft shit without the money anyway, so at least then there is some reward for playing the game even though you didn't play it masterfully, as well as more replayability and less frustration about trying to improve your skills.

Or have each player have a set amount of carts instead of the pooled 3 where the other 3 hunters give up for no rasin after the last cart.

Like theres probably a dozen ways that this could be exponentially more fun with a broader appeal while still rewarding players who actually know how to play very well. Like you'd be hard pressed to come up with a different working idea for how failing in this game could work even worse off than how it already is and it really seems like they chose the most frustrating option intentionally.
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>>144457003
>if you ever shell (you shouldn't)
So you use GL badly.

>WF is irrelevant, it's stupidly weak and a waste of time
Depends on GL type. Long, which is also the generally best type, has excellent WF.

>They're strong enough to not need bombs, what are you talking about? Not a single weapon in 4U is weak enough to NEED bombs.
Where did I say they NEED bombs, retard?

>Are you basing yourself on 140 solo TA like an idiot?
No, both in and out of TA they are very weak weapons. Furthermore, unlike some weapons (gunner, elemental and status weapons especially), nothing about 140s biases against SA and GL apart from GL having relatively poor mobility.

>It's only okay to skip it if you're soloing because Teo is noticably easier if you're being targeted.
The point when you should roll is no different. Unless it gets staggered, which will be immediately obvious, it's not going to go from the "slowly flapping wings to blow dust around for ten seconds" to attacking you without the explosions proccing first and it performing its recovery taunt.

>The same that cover both front legs and back legs.
Which you won't get hit by if your positioning isn't shit.

>just that Bio on those was a lot better than Tremor Res on anything else.
And as I already said, it isn't.
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>>144456805
The "you can only get Blos horns by breaking them while he's alive" excuse you could bullshit your way through by saying that they lose their quality when they die or some shit like that (much like real animals that have to die in specific ways to not spoil the meat, dunno).

What I still don't understand is when I carve two Ukanlos tails from one tail cut or then I get two Gypceros heads when I capture one.

And no, I don't think it's from killing a pregnant one, otherwise how the fuck would I use a fetal Gyp head to make a 3 feet tall hammer shaped like a Gypceros head?
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Huge thanks to the anons who just helped me grind the Star Knight set if they're lurking, saved me a helluva lot of time
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>>144457452
>being a bad player and dying wasn't bad enough
>now you have 3 other people mad at you and you'll get kicked from the game

this is literally fucking terrible game design and i wouldn't be surprised if most of capcom's employees are in abusive relationships.
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>>144456236
shit
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>>144457613
>So you use GL badly
Unfortunately, the only shelling that is somewhat decent at the end of G-rank is LV5. If you don't have that, you're better off poking with endgame weapons because shelling isn't that good. In 4 it was fucking amazing, to the point that there's little real point in poking. In 4U, it's lacklustre at best unless you're using Wide.

WF is situational as hell, and outside of the Long types, just not worth using. And Long isn't generally the best type. Having three weak shells is worse than having two good shells, given how many opportunities you have for reloading when there's no real opportunity for attack.
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>>144458125
>you shouldn't shell ever
>you should only shell if you're using one of the gunlances that don't suck, as you should be
>or just the type of gunlance that is designed mainly for shelling
>you should only poke
>but the lance type with generally the best raw/elemental damage is not the best
>WF is not worth using
>except on the type of lance that is best at poking, which is all you should ever do
>which isn't worth using, you should only use the one that is good for shelling which you should never do
You seem confused, friend.
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>>144458504
not that guy, but shelling should def only be used on shitty hitzones or to extend combos. endgame damage ain't shit.

wyvern fire is pretty much guaranteed to send a teammate flying for for a mediocre burst of damage.

gunlance got its shit fucked up. i love it, but it still got fucked.
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>>144458797
>wyvern fire is pretty much guaranteed to send a teammate flying
not if you play solo
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Why does every Grank armor in FU seem to be trash. I can't see anything would be a significant improvment of the ceanataur S I have now.
I'm getting a bit ahead of myself though, only in GH8 for now.
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>>144457613
Oh great, you were baiting. Last reply then, I won't waste my time with you anymore.

GL's shelling should be avoided because it eats sharpness for very low damage, damage that is barely boosted enough with skills to compete with a correct poking setup, Shelling that is never used "because there's a trap"
You only shell to extend comboes or to finish a XA.
The very very rare opportunities to WF, even on Long with all artillery boosters are when you have exactly enough time to WF and not waste hits (Long wait, opportunity to hit with it, long wait) Needless to say it almost never happens.

When you said they wouldn't lose damage from wasting time to sheathe and drop bombs when they have correct damage, just bad to solo against the fast, aggressive 140 solos.

Absolutely false, they struggle simply because they're slowish and need bigger openings to perfom the best, which are easily found in multiplayer.

It doesn't "slowly flap for ten seconds", the explosions come like 1.5sec after the blastblight (on top of tripping you), and that's a long shot, if you mean the one for the close range and long range wing flapping you clearly don't know what I'm talking about and have never really fought a Teostra, not having to care about blastblight lightens the fight and makes it easier to concentrate on everything else on top of negating the need to roll (eat for groomer if you lance/gl/db) and to be extra careful between that moment and the three rolls.

It's not about positioning, it's about area denying, that's the point of its wandering dust, to deny the front claws and back legs, there's also a dust trip > roar combo that can be completly avoided with Bio.

And you're wrong, Bio is a fantastic defensive AND utility skill on both, the only monster that inflicts blastblight on which Bio is useless is Dios because the application rate is much lower, and so is the risk, eating for Groomer is more than enough on it.
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>>144459186
>Oh great, you were baiting. Last reply then, I won't waste my time with you anymore.
Ah, the classic "fuck I'm tired of losing this argument but maybe I can still get away with dismissing the other guy and drop the mic" maneuvre.
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>>144457452
There shouldn't be a cart limit but when you cart you lose a random item from the rewards screen. It'll still be there but slightly grayed out.
>grayed out ruby surrounded by scales
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>>144459460
Pretty sure he'd rather believe you're being idiot on purpose :^)
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Monster hunter X best end game armor sets?
Is there anything worthwhile other then the X rank sets from special permit monsters?
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>>144459186
Very low damage?
Artillery God on even LV.4 shells does as much or more damage than a poke with a max raw relic in many cases, all cases if it's a Wide GL.
That's just LV.4. Not even to LV.5 yet.

GL's only weakness in MH4U is that playing online is a hassle cause you can knock your teammates around, but the same could be said for LS at which point GL is better than LS so you may as well actually be doing some great damage if you're gonna fuck up your teammates.
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Anyone know how to get the Steam overlay working for MHO?
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>>144460405
>but the same could be said for LS at which point GL is better than LS

Shelling with GL isn't even in the same ballpark as LS. Lancers get fucked hard by LS and hammer/gl only slightly less, but every other weapon class can super armor through LS hits. Nothing is going to super armor through big disruptive shells.
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Hey guys, Monster Hunter Online here, just made the NoFunAllowed Guild, make sure to join.
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>>144460405
http://minyoung.ch/calculatingpalico/?m=47&s=["8.-8.6.0.1..782.-10.0.0.0.6","8.-8.6.0.1.wex,pc,pt,mdd,hb.782.0.3.null.0.6","8.1438.6.0.1.ha,wex,pc,pt,mdd"]

Considering you can do two stabs by the time you do one shell, and three by the time you do a charged shell...
Considering how building a set with Artillery God is the same as building a set with HB & WE...
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Lets speculate on the future of the series!

I'm sick of hearing everyone just argue about weapons/armor/skills all the damn time. Most are viable in some way if you can actually play the fucking game.

>will MH get as big in the west as it is in Japan?
>what the next mainline game include/exclude?
>future monster typings/elements?
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>shelling does a set amount of damage
>regardless of sharpness
>regardless of raw weapon power
>regardless of hit location
>it's bad don't do it
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>>144459186
>even on Long with all artillery boosters are when you have exactly enough time to WF and not waste hits (Long wait, opportunity to hit with it, long wait)
You mean like after you trap the monster and speedsetup a couple of bombs?

>When you said they wouldn't lose damage from wasting time to sheathe and drop bombs
Which do a large amount of damage, and which either do even more damage or can be dropped almost instantly with either bomb boost or speedsetup.

>just bad to solo against the fast, aggressive 140 solos.
Except GL scores poorly in non-140s as well. At best it's close to the median in some hunts, which are typically less popular hunts that happen to have a GL submission. On the rare occasion SA beats something other than hunting horn it's GL. And that's with GL being a popular weapon and thus more likely to have an ideal score.

>they struggle simply because they're slowish
>SA
>slowish
GL I'll give you has poor mobility, though it's not really slow to attack. It just has shit damage for its attack rate.

>you clearly don't know what I'm talking about
No, I know what you're talking about, and I'm talking about something completely different because what you're talking about is bullshit and easily avoided. God you're retarded.

>It's not about positioning, it's about area denying, that's the point of its wandering dust, to deny the front claws and back legs
Except it does not do so. The reason you would get hit by wandering dust is because it shits it everywhere while it charges, so if you take advantage of the opening presented afterward you're likely to get hit with it from behind if you aren't careful. Even then, dust takes forever to ignite, so you have ample time to continue exploiting the opening.

>And you're wrong, Bio is a fantastic defensive AND utility skill on both
>abloobloo no my favourite skill is great youre trash ;___;
All I see there.
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>>144460998

>will MH get as big in the west as it is in Japan?
No
>what the next mainline game include/exclude?
Grappling Hooks
>future monster typings/elements?
Lightning Turtle
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>>144460405
GL is way worse for disruption than LS. The only weapon I would actually consider worse than GL in that regard is SA, but even then it comes down more to the attitude of the player. In my experience GLs tend to gimp themselves by shelling upward and playing carefully, while SAs seem to play intentionally badly to see how much they can fuck with their teammates before they get kicked or something. You'll sometimes run into that with other weapons, but only rarely.
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>>144461093
>shelling does a set amount of damage
>regardless of sharpness
>regardless of raw weapon power
>regardless of hit location
>still manages to do less dps than poking when accounting all these factors

That said, GLers who don't shell should be playing Lance. Shelling is good combo/reach extenders, every GLer should learn to exploit them
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>>144460954
i dont get it. do you think that the only thing GL users do is explicitly use the gun and not the lance?
Two stabs, shell, two stabs, shell

theres an infinite combo mechanic in there and each shell does a set amount of good damage, compared to the stabs thats do damage calculated on a variety of factors that require great raw, great sharpness, and great positioning.

Shelling is not the main focus of the weapon. its a great additional tool.
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>>144461923
Exactly my point.
Extend combos, end them after an XA but they're nowhere as good as poking.
They're like Kelbi bows, sure it works but that's not how the weapon work and if you took the time to learn the weapon you'd do a lot better.
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>>144461923
They fucking do, never been online? There's an army of shitters with defense honed MTigrex GL spamming shells
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>>144462493
>never been online? There's an army of shitters with defense honed MTigrex GL spamming shells
Amazing, I've seen maybe five gunlances in the hundreds of random lobbies I've been in and a couple in /mhg/. Of those only two were using the m.tigrex GL, one of which was a friend of mine. I wish I could find this army of GLs, it sounds majestic.
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>>144460954
http://minyoung.ch/calculatingpalico/?m=47&s=["8.-8.6.0.1..782.-10.0.0.0.6"]
max raw relic, purple sharpness

look at the poke moves where shelling would actually be used as a BNB damage dealer in 75% of the situations
>mid thrust: 51-69
>high thrust: 38-51

>shelling lv.4 wide: 57

but who the fuck are you anyway the fuck goes and hunts a rajang with a fucking GL online or off? Rajang is way too mobile for GL to be useful against Rajang.

here's a more sensible monster
http://minyoung.ch/calculatingpalico/?m=99&s=["8.-8.6.0.1..782.-10.0.0.0.6"]

>mid thrust: 23-57
>high thrust: 17-43
>shelling: 57
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>>144460209
Don't know... Haven't played it yet.
Have many people here already played X??
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Have you installed it yet /mhg/?
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>>144460734
That sounds terrible.
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>>144462853
That's assuming no skills, that's why I posted different weapons/skillsets.
You're not proving anything, the most widely used GLs don't shoot wide4 and Long is the preferred shell type to extend.
If you have a max raw GL or element if the monsters are weaker to it, you can be damn sure poking will be better, just learn how to fight and build sets.
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>>144463219
No...
Explain
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>>144463219
Don't you have your own general?
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>>144463459
>he builds a GL set with attack up XL
literally just play any other weapontype
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>>144463517
Free games straight from the eshop
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>>144463683
Now it's obvious you don't know how to build sets if you're mentioning AuXL over challenger
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>>144463341
It isn't
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>>144460998
Maybe, but probably not..

No more villages. I'm hoping for more open world gameplay.

Umm plasma lizard
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>>144460998
No, it doesn't fit the western mentality.
More fluff like housing, revamped fishing (or another type of fishing on top of the normal one)
A slug monster or a Kraken Mohran in the sea, Bleed on weapons (1/3 to inflict Slicing S)
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>>144464093
>it isn't

>NoFunAllowed Guild
>NoFun

Lord, being this autistic..
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>>144464118
>open world
Yes plz!
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Oh shit it's a

new thread

>>144465085
>>144465085
>>144465085
>>144465085
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>>144464573
Mindset* time to sleep
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Hey /mhg/ I saw monster hunter frontier g9 and g6 for sale at a store and I was wondering if these are just expansions for the original game or are they their own thing
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>>144464574
Autism is being unable to understand blatant sarcasm.
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>>144465154
The physical copies are for early access to the update content, like for example Instead of waiting for the new monsters to cycle in you could fight them a week or two before everyone else. They also come with other stuff, both physical and in game.

Frontier is free to download and so are all its updates though so there's no point in buying one of those things now. Only thing you need to buy is the monthly sub after you hit hr99 (or hr9 if you play the Japan one where they nuked pre-gou content )
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>>144466305
Ah thank you
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>old gen monsters are no problem
>new gen monsters kick my ass

I think I need to play more
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