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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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>>144237521
First for /plipplop/
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So what's the Enlarged Head do?

Does Maria respond to it?
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>>144237646
It makes your head look really big.
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Post webms.
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>>144237646
it's a DS1 reference that lets you hear the sound of waves
so, basically, a higher quality DS1 reference than the ones in any of the actual souls games
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>>144237861

Don't do if I mind!
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>>144237861
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>>144237985
Where in Dark Souls 1 do you hear the waves?
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>>144237521
We will not abandon the dream. Don't leave me, /bbg/.
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>>144238086
He's talkign about the Oolacile bloated head being the reference.

>>144238356
Fuck their "council" any old anon can copypaste that autistic OP and come up with an unfunny title.
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>>144238356
What are you talking about?
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>>144238086
huh?
the head is a bloated head reference. When you put it on, you can hear the sound of waves like the patients in the area.
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What happens if you try to bring Gascan to his own boss room?
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>>144239489
you can't
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>>144239489
this isn't DS3, that sort of thing isn't possible
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>>144239591
>>144239647

I figured they wouldn't be retarded like that, but is there a fogwall or does he bail out or something?
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>>144239647
>this isn't DS3
oh, yeah, like there's anything like that in DS3. Really this hate boner for the most popular game in the series is getting ridiculous.
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>>144237521
If I go up to 160 will I really find no matches or summons?
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>>144240130
Why the fuck would you go up to 160?
If you're past 120 then just restart.
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>>144240130
No, that's just meta-retards trying to tell people not to have fun.

I have a lvl 150 and there's tons of action.
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>>144240101
You can make Tsorig fight himself. Just another testament to how blatantly unfinished Smouldering Lake is. Educate yourself before you post.
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>>144240101
You can have Knight Slayer Tsorig fight himself in the Demon Ruins, though.
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>>144240274
>>144240346

So what does Gascoigne do if you bring him too close to his boss room? Does he Blank out of there or is there an extra fogwall thrown in somewhere if you do summon him?
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>>144240465
iirc he can't do elevators or ladders, so he physically can't get to the boss gate, and then just blanks out.
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>>144240101
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>>144240648
Does he use the model and moveset he has in his fight, or does he use the player's model if you summon him?
I never did so i'm not sure.
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>>144240798
it's his boss model, the same one with the same moves that helps you out in the alpha demo. He also chuckles if you play the music box for him
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>>144240193
Because I made the same boring ass build I've done before. Don't know if I want to start anew

>>144240253
Cool, maybe I will then
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>>144240130
Yes, not counting the SRRC, and it will only get worse as time goes on.

>>144238021
What's the point in pretending to be me when anyone can see the trip codes are different?
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>>144240879
Well that's cool. Are there any other summons with unique models or is it just him?
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If I'm going skill what should my starting weapon be?
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>>144240970
Just him, he and Alfred were the only two summonable NPCs before TOH came out.
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Why does the yahrnam queen appear after you kill rom?
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>>144240879
>He also chuckles if you play the music box for him

But he still won't go home to slaughter his daughters.

What a douche.
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Anyone up for killing Lawrence?
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>>144241596
Because she is Mergo's mother.
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>>144241873
nvm l just remembered you need the skull to summon him
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>>144241953
What does that have to do with Rom?
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>>144242178
Rom is Yharnam's sister.
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>>144242178
Rom is hiding Mergo, preventing the ritual that fucked over Old Yharnam from spreading further.
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are all beast claw attacks thrust?
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>>144242467
And best friend of Eileen, the Wet Nurse.
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>>144242178
Rom is hiding the ritual, including Mergo and his wet nurse. The baby crying you hear is Mergo.
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>>144242513
>preventing the ritual that fucked over Old Yharnam from spreading further

Nothing actually suggests that. It's more likely that it is being hidden in order to prevent people, like the main character, from trying to stop it.
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So Skill is the only build worth doing, right? Or is Strength actually viable for once in this game?
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>>144243086
everything is viable in BB, the main issue is finding more than 3 weapons to use with bloodtinge
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What's the best background for a bloodtinge build?
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>>144243086
Depends.

If you're playing the game like a human being, anything goes.

If you're some PvP purist autist who wants to only do FCs with all the 12 of you that exist, then no, don't use Str.
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>>144243086
In PvE, Str is the best possible option.

>>144243160
See pic. It will give you a ton of options.
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>>144243193
Noble
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>>144243265
>In PvE, Str is the best possible option.
Only if you enjoy standing next to enemies with a pizza cutter and holding L2
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>>144243415
To be fair, who wouldn't enjoy that?
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>>144243086
Strength is okay in PvE, but in PvP, only Skill is viable.
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>>144243415
If that is all that you do with a pizza cutter, let alone a Str build in general, then you just suck at the game to be honest.

>>144243580
That's false too. Everything is viable in PvP, Skl just has a slight advantage.
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>>144243193
Depends on the build
Military veteran is best for a pure bt build since it has the lowest arc and lets you use bloodletter with no investment into str, but if you don't plan on using the letter professional is better.
If you plan on not using the letter and want to use hunter's tools, noble scion is best but at that point most builds will be the same net points.
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GOD DAMNIT WHY DO ALL OF THE GEMS I GET WITH HIGH ATTACK BONUSES HAVE ATK DOWN AS THE SECONDARY EFFECT?!?
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>>144243694
>Everything is viable in PvP
Listen to this fucking joker
>Skl just has a slight advantage
So you're admitting that only Skl matters then?
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>>144244095
I didn't say only skill mattered. A lot of people value co-op, that's why Str comes out on top (using the same character for both).

Some people prefer being able to fight at a range, and that is when BLT comes out on top. BLT is a hard counter to Skl builds and ranks very close to them in general.

Etc. Just because you are a shitter that got anally rekt by someone better than you using a Skl build doesn't mean that Skl is the only viable build in the game.
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I think I'm burned out on BB

What do I do it's heart breaking.
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>>144244501
Skl will still give you the greatest return for the amount of player skill and effort invested, and thus is the only option worth considering.
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>>144244671
Make an RFC chalice dungeon and explore every last corner of it.

Keep a bell ringing so others can join you.
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>>144244671
Helping/invading could help. If you're sick of that then hold off from playing the game for awhile, maybe play Dark Souls 3 if you haven't already
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>>144244843
Sure, you want to play like a brain dead moron, but that only works on other brain dead morons. Anyone else will just wreck your dumbass for trying to R1 spam or dash+R1 spam.
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>even the doll, should it please you..
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>>144245103
Oh, it should...
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>>144245034
Quit projecting so hard.
If Skill builds only worked on "braindead morons", they wouldn't be considered the best.
Indeed, strength weapons are more deserving of that moniker as they will never, ever hit anyone competent.
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>>144244843
>the greatest return
holy shit anon, you're putting me to sleep here
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Have two anons from here ever done a papa G/henryk cosplay run? Seems like itd be a fun project on the side .
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>>144245259
>strength weapons are more deserving of that moniker as they will never, ever hit anyone competent.
post your PSN
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>>144245259
I didn't say they only worked on brain dead retards. I said the easy returns only work on retards.
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>>144244971
co op is all I do

Might as well pick up Dark Souls 3
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>>144245350
t. professional kazoo player calling the violinist a tryhard
>>144245446
And I didn't say that Skill builds made for easy matches against good players, only that other builds would require disproportionately more skill and effort to beat a competent player using a Skill build.
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what's the best place to find people to coop?
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>>144245654
chalices
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>>144245604
>would require disproportionately more skill and effort
and this somehow makes str not worth considering at all
ok
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>>144245654
SRRC and DLC bosses always have people ringing frequently
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>>144245604
Nah, that title goes to Blt builds.
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>>144245103
>Of course, l do love you
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>>144245769
>and this somehow makes str not worth considering at all
It does, because eventually you're going to reach that point where you simply can't get any better with that strength build. Whereas with a better build you would be able to push past this point and improve your win rate even further.

You're advocating shooting yourself in the foot at the starting line. Stop doing that.
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I cant wake up guys. I can't stop playing Bloodborne.

It's been two weeks now and I've done nothing else.
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>>144246061
>implying anyone even plays this game that competitively

Get off your autistic horses and try to have some fun for once, guys.
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>>144246005
doll best waifu

l never understood why the doll clones from the waking world try to kill you though
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>>144246312
Winning is fun.
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>>144246061
But what if I'm not a colossal faggot and would rather use a weapon I like rather than one I don't just because it's easier to shit on another player with it?
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This faggot really wants everyone to use the same shit hes using omg this really is no items fox only final destination hollly fuuuck what a loser!

Srs tho you're tellin' me that one ultrautist with complete mastery of a "slower" weapon against another ultra autist with bom or rakuyo and he's gonna have a tougher time?
Getouttahere
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>>144246520
Then do that and don't tell these retards you're doing it or they'll get their panties all knotted up.
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How do you actually hit shit more than once with slower weapons? Most enemies can either dodge away or hit you back in between your attacks.
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Does the tricked form of the Bloodletter scale with strength at ALL? is it even worth getting more strength than I need to use it?
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>>144247190
it scales well, but the moveset is below average at best
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>>144247274
Are you talking about the Tricked form or the 1h form?
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>>144247369
Oh, shit I misread, the tricked form is pure blood, as are both transform attacks
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>>144247190
Transformed form has no scaling with strength, only blt. Getting more strength will depend on what you want to do with it i.e. Church Cannon, Gattling Gun
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>>144246520
>>144246945
Naw, keep coming back announcing how much fun you're having with your weaponfu.

Gets these faggots to expose themselves for mockery.
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>>144246520
it's this kind of mentality that led to this "DS3 PVP is bad" meme.

Face it, there's no fun on this earth that stems from anything other than kicking someone else's ass at something with as little work as possible. All that matters is winning, and if you don't agree you might as well kill yourself now because that's how the world works.
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>>144247064
Most strength weapons can stagger and interrupt enemies allowing you to get more hits in. There's also hyper armor that'll let you keep attacking after getting hit
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>>144247659
This. Dealing with HMLS HAed pokes is annoying as hell as a Skl user.
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>>144247064
Premonition will help you lead their attacks into your pain train, just imagine what a badass would do and make use of regain by eating a hit through hyperarmor.

You're no orc wildly flailing your arms repeatedly.
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>>144247514
Does the Church Cannon have any advantages over the Cannon besides lower Str requirement and QS usage?
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>>144247584
I'm pretty sure this is just a shitpost but wew lad
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>>144237861
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>>144247584
What happens when you are like me and get so good that you can win, in style, with hardly any effort using what ever you feel like using at the time?
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>>144247951
he real mad

>>144247584
> other than kicking someone else's ass at something with as little work as possible. All that matters is winning, and if you don't agree you might as well kill yourself now because that's how the world works.

Whoa when did the bloody crow join bbg?
I can't hold all that edge! Go max gem twink in forbidden forests if you wanna win all day erry day, thats fun right?!
lollll this guy might need help
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Is there a type of gem I should be using on the pizza cutter? Or just cursed tempering?
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>>144247882
The str requirement and QS usage are the major two advantages for the church cannon. Regular cannon can be aimed upwards more easily and will do more damage. Regular cannon also needs 13 skill which can mess with some builds i.e. only using letter or heavy strength investment.
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>>144247951
Even the tryhards don't want anything to do with DS3 so yeah it has to be
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>>144248413
If you have 50 strength a heavy abyssal could up the AR a bit more than a tempering
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>>144248281
not the guy you're replying to but those are the best type of players.

Mastery through love leads to TRIPLE S-s-s-sSTYLISH
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doing chalice dungeon without ps+ sucks, every guide basically uses the codes to help farm items.

I'm also stuck on abhorent beast in the lower loren.

Why did they have to make it so you must have ps+ to have nice things. Feelsbadman

my +7 saw cleaver is doing same dmg as my +10 LHB with the best gems I have. Around 300 dmg first hit to the beast. I guess the seration ability of the cleaver adds much more the dmg eh
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>>144249073
Some people have suggested farming lanterns in mensis for 19% gems to go into chalices with. Maybe that'll help?
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Gotta thank Ebrieta-chan for letting me counter even with a 2-handed tricked weapon.
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>>144248904
You know you are better off dashing to the side when they flip at you, right? If you time it right, they go past you and you can land some free hits. It's less risky than parrying them.
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>>144249295
Its not mine lookit the filename but its hilarious to me.
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>>144249073
If you don't have PS+ you don't need chalice gems. Mensis or DLC gems will be more than enough for anything.
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>>144249073
Serration gives 20% more damage against beasts. Fire paper can also help if you have some too.
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>>144249225
unfortunately this is NG+ for me and I'm still at central yarhnam.

I skipped defiled pthumeru and went to lower loran first because I dont have enough VIT and everything is 1 hit KO me. Pumping that VIT to 50 now.

>>144249448
I'm going for the plat. After the plat I'm gettting the DLC and. I wasn't sure if getting the DLC would mean I had to include the trophies from the DLC as well to get the plat.

On the bright side I have a ton of fire gem from lower loren tho
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>>144249073
Dodge to the left (Abhorrent's right) whenever you see him hunch to do a jab and hit his side either once or twice then back off. Dodging to the left evades most of his attacks, but be careful when he slams his hand down and creates a little tornado. Poison knives help a little too
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>>144249620
No, the DLC doesn't effect the vanilla trophies.

>>144249754
I still maintain that poking him through his extend-o-punch is the safest method. You can combine it with poison knives to speed it up.
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>>144249754
The first time I did it I was cheesing him with the poison knife. It was actually pretty hard for me to take it on.
But now at the lower loren I learned some of his moves. I managed to bring him down to maybe 10% HP but I panicked and let him combo me.
It was pretty fun and I don't mind practising the dodges with him cause the location I restart in just requires me to run in a straight line to his location. I always get greedy tho!

>>144249464
I can't afford to burn those fire paper easily. I'm gonna trial and error his moves and when I'm confident enough I'll use em. Maybe with the saw cleaver since it is faster and the seration bonus as well

>>144250015
Are you sure? there are a few weapons that sounds like fun but I'm running a quality build with LHB so not sure if I can utilize them effectively or not. I'm doing PVE atm so my level isn't cap at 120 right? I'm still thinking if I should up my BT to use evelyn for PVE.

I kinda wanna use the chikage cause it looks cool but I already up my str and skl too much
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>>144250291
If you're only doing PvE, there's nothing stopping you from going above 120. Though if you do go far past that and eventually get PS+, you might need to make a new character to be back in range.
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>>144250520
I'm not too sure how PVP works, if I exceed lvl 120, would I not be able to use that character or would they repress my level back to lvl 120 and remember the points that I skilled until lvl 120?

If its the former then everyone would have a character that they lvl up to 120 and never touch it anymore unless they are doing pvp?
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>>144250717
Are you fucking retarded?

You'll be whatever level you are.
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>>144250291
My first two builds were a Quality build with the LHB and Axe. The Mensis gems were plenty. Just farm until you have 3 per weapon that all have the Atk Down vs Kin Curse. That will be more than enough.

If you want a build to try out everything:
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>>144250717
120 is just where most people outside of here stop at. Being somewhere near that range lets you get a good amount of traffic. If you level up to say, 150. It just means you'll less people to fight against.

Except some people say 150 is kind of active too. Don't take my word for it though
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>>144251047
oh, it makes sense. Everyone was talking about lvl120 I thought that was the lvl cap for pvp

>>144250857
I kinda regret not knowing that I could farm good gems in mensis on my first play through. I was pretty excited to get into NG+ for some reason.
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>>144250636
>Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
holy shit I didn't know from made gundam games..
>ACE series

oh shii- now I'm gonna look at gameplay.

Also as a lurker who came back to this shit hole I saw plenty of anons discussing ds3 much to my dismay.
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>>144251549
>Everyone was talking about lvl120 I thought that was the lvl cap for pvp


Jesus, see what you idiots do to new players?
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Are there any instances of VaatiVidya outright plagiarizing other's works?
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>>144251902
nah it's cool.

We love you Vaati. Everything you say is canon.
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>>144251891
Meh, it's for their own good. Going slightly beyond the meta won't hurt them, but going too far beyond it will. Matchmaking it based on levels afterall.
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>>144252047
I'm actually just trying to win an internet argument and I need some examples of him ripping people off.
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>>144251891
Thats why we gotta call that 'tism out when we see it.
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>>144252112
Are you arguing with vaati?
Lol
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Damn the ailing loran chalice was a sudden difficulty spike for me, oh well it's still manageable with multiple attempts and extreme precaution now that I can't kill those super fast fuckers quickly like back in hintertomb. Gonna stop for today.
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This arcane build is really seeming like a bad idea. The cane is only doing 40 damage to the blood starved beast which I thought would be good against it. When does an arcane build become good? And isn't worth it to even continue doing?
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>>144246187
I feel ya. This was my first souls game and ive been playing frequently ever since i got it a few months after release. It just hits everything i like in a game so well. Its the cosmic horror atmosphere, ye old settings, ambiguous themes and genuinely interesting characters that really seal the deal for me.

I liked it so much that i preordered das3 hoping for more of the same quality albeit different game. I like it but still haven't beat it once. I get to the cathedral of the deep, first swamp or so soon as the undead settlement, get bored, feel like im doing my build wrong, or any other sort of mild burnout - end up deleting my character and coming back to bloodborne, have fun in pvp or coop with bbg a bit - restart das3 from scratch - repeat that ad nauseam. Its not that i dont like the game, i really do enjoy it despie my bitching but i just cant get fully immersed like i want to be.

Some people say its because i haven't got very far into it. that i dont understand the mechanics and therefore make a poor build (magic as well as using the correct infusion especially is confusing but i dont want to ignore it) or that having not played any other dark/demons' souls titles, im missing out on key lore. But im sure its a combo of all that + the weapons ive come across seem boring and super similar across types compared to trick weapons. Im really having trouble find a weapon i like and want to commit to so i end up hoarding upgrade materials or wasting them on a weapon i dont like. Also shields are odd for me, coming from bloodborne, i often end up forgetting to block and just roll instead. Another thing is that while i can parry well with a faster dagger/shield/fist weapon im finding it way hard to parry with a bigger shield like the one the knight starts with and if theres any lag forget about it.

Ill stop now though as this isnt /dsg/ and im kinda drunken rambling an offtopic wall of text on the ps4 browser.
Ill get through it eventually.
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>>144252330
Pop that fire gem that you can find somewhere around cathedral ward into your saw spear or cane mang. Whip form has bonus damage to beasts.
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>>144252330
Once you kill BSB you'll have access to elemental gems from dungeons. For now just finish BSB with fire paper, beast blood pellets, and pungent blood cocktails
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>>144250636
Do /dsg/ users seriously think that we care about their shithole?
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>>144252740
Considering Lucifer constantly pushes for BB in the DSG OP, constantly have people shitposting about BB, constantly have people shitpost about how PC doesn't have BB, and similar things?

Yes.
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>>144252330
Just use the LHB instead.
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>>144252248
It's mostly a dumbass friend of his, that cuck admitted on pleddit that he stole. I couldn't tell you where to find it but he did
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>>144252854
>Considering Lucifer constantly pushes for BB
Yeah because everyone loves Luci here.
>constantly have people shitposting about BB, constantly have people shitpost about how PC doesn't have BB
They're yours, not ours.
Go shitpost in your thread, not here.
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>>144252248
I hope so.
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>>144252854
Maybe its subtle trolling because that sounds hilarious
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>>144249073
Just abuse the free 14 day trial, you can make as many accounts as you like.
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>>144252948
lol what a fag pretty sure his plagiarism is chronicled on plebbit.

Good luck
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[ANGRY WHINNYING]
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Anyone in reddit's secret fc?
I might start an account to check it out.
ill come back with the glyph for raids
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I need one Bastard of Loran helppp
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>>144253996
Just remake the story chalice and rerun it.
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>>144253996
Some kind anon told me yesterday that Ailing Loran had some.
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>>144253996
Double check the last bonus room in ailing loran.
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>>144254180
>>144254392
Okay, have to make a new one and gp through. It's all so tiresome
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>>144254617
Pretty sure the Insight shop starts selling them at some point too.
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>>144254720
Only in NG+
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>>144254838
And only when you make one with all the offerings which why I need one of the fuckers
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>>144251582
>tricked wheel dash spamming

please go back to lurking: i want to pretend you're not a part of this community.
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>>144255825
But dodging the wheel is too easy if you dont use one of the quicker attacks.
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Kind of sucks that the only two good weapons for a pure Bloodtinge build require two hands.
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>>144256514
Guns are also considered weapons.
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Why did Samurai go insane?

Doesn't seem that shocking of a revelation that they killed the babygod.
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>>144257445
It is more surprising that there are any people that didn't go insane.
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>>144257445
Experimentation revelation
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>>144253912
it's not secret and it wouldn't be a raid. you would just be participating.

making you
>literally reddiot
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>>144254617
I haven't been doing many chalices but the insight shop is selling bastards of loran for 7 insight now.

I'm in NG+ though
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>>144260308
Shop sells them automatically at NG+
>>
Holy shit, Wayne June reading Lovecraft makes Chalice Dungeons so much more fun to grind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RV6htNDTwI
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Just beat The One Reborn.
I liked how he sings Scat-Jazz when he attacks.
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Just beat this game and holy shit this is by far the best in the ""soulslike"" series. Everything looks so good, especially liked the field of flowers you fight the final boss in.

Going to go in for a second run soon, would you guys recommend Strength or Arcane as more fun to play? And also is there a way to fight the Moon Presence? I beat Gehrman and he just kinda swooped on down and gave me unconsentual smooches, looked like it'd be a final-final boss or something
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>>144262447
3 third cords
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>>144246005
>Hunter, do you love me?
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>>144262447
You have to consume three umbilical cords, there are two that are unmissable and 2 more than can be gotten from different questlines.
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>>144262489
>>144262709
Ah right, I only got 2 of them. The ones from the old workshop and the Wet Nurse I believe
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>>144247064
YOU ONLY NEED ONE
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>>144262791
Well there were two more depending on how you deal with Iosefka and Arianna
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>>144263078
I'm not entirely sure about Iosefka (I remember finding a woman on a table in the clinic, that might have been her), but Arianna had some slug baby. I guess I was supposed to get an umbilical cord from that slug?
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>>144263370
>I remember finding a woman on a table in the clinic
Yeah, if you kill her you get it.
And you should kill her.
She's monster.
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>>144263370
Well you did both of them right, all that was missing was you killing the pregnant woman on the table and killing the abomination baby to get the umbilical cords.
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>>144263537
>>144263593
Alright, that's good to know, thanks

This game really has a thing for killing newborns doesn't it?
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>>144263890
Technically Fauxsefka might not be pregnant, she just ate the Third of the Umbilical and it rejected her.
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>>144264023
So basically the end sequence of Silent Hill 3.
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>>144264023
She is pregnant, when you kill her the umbilical cord is in her body.
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>>144262447
A Str/Arc hybrid playthrough is pretty fun and there's a nice variety of weapons that benefit from it.
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>>144265764
That sounds fun, what would a build for that look like? 40 for str and arc?
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>>144265861
Basically all you do for any 'build' is pump the relevant stats to 40/50 then adjust vit/end so that you hit your desired level.
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>>144265861
What level do you plan on stopping to?
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>>144266072
Yeah, same basic idea as DS then I guess

>>144266123
I don't really know, I guess having a character I can hop on for some PvP would be neat. What kind of level do you guys generally stop at for PvP?
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>>144266395
>What kind of level do you guys generally stop at for PvP?

Oh dear god what have you done?!
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>>144266395
The meta here is 98 but most people outside of here go to 120-150. At 98 you can get 30 Str and 40 Arc with 45 Vit and 15 End. You can always go higher, the meta isn't that important in the fight clubs we have here.
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>>144266395
130SL. I host for 98BL shitters in FC/Hunters's Nightmare/Hamlet
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>>144266579
98 is best for PvP and co-op in BB. The ranges in BB are huge.
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>>144267123
>The ranges in BB are huge.

They're the same as DS1...
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>>144267301
Not quite.
>>
Can you report people who are only ringing their beckoning bell to blank out once they get 2 summons? Ive run into this guy four times doing the same thing.
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>>144267572
>report people

ha

HAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


no
>>
>>144267572
Does it not cut their online capabilities if they spam it like the black crystal? I thought it did
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>>144267572
You can block them.
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>>144267763
What? When did this ever happen?
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>>144266579
Ah, should have realised that might be a divisive topic

>>144266902
>>144266934
>>144267123
So I'll aim for 98 and see how that feels. I can always just go higher than that if I get bored of it. Thanks!
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Is it worth popping a Beast Blood Pellet to fight Logarius?
I feel like I'm not damaging him fast enough.
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>>144268039
I might be wrong, but doesn't the description on the Seperation Crystals in Dark Souls say that fickle use of them get a punishment or something? I always thought that meant that you lose summoning privileges if you use it too often.

I never looked it up though, probably misinformed
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>>144268481
I think that meant that you got targeted by the Darkmoon's or something.
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>>144268436
Nah, for Logarius the best tactic is hit and run, pellets wouldn't do much.
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>>144268183
Just go to 120 so you flesh out your build, 98 is a meme. You're new so just know Lucifer is the last person you should listen to
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>>144268719
Fair enough.
I keep almost getting him, just looking for that extra edge.
Oh well, back to grinding for Vials. Between him and Yahar'gul I'm down to 30.
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>>144268713
>>144268481
It doesn't do anything like that in DS1.
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>>144268821
Seriously don't gimp yourself out just because of some autists whining about a meta nobody uses aside from like 10 people here.
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>>144268719
Oh, one more question: is there any particular armor set that might be worth wearing?
I've been using Tomb Prospectors for the Arcane resist, but once I get through the first stage he's mostly melee, so should I look for a happy medium?
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>>144268821
That's sound advice too. I'll see how it goes, but a less restrictive build at 120 does seem appealing
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>>144269156
I don't think it matters, his attacks do arcane damage, but your best protection against him are the pillars in his area anyway.
All his melee attacks have secondary arc scaling I think, and they can be parried.
If you want to do extra damage you can try bolt/fire paper, but I wouldn't use it again once its effect ends since he has very high elemental resistance.
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>>144269583
Yeah, I think I can handle him as is, I just keep getting unlucky in the last few moments last time I was one hit away from death, managed to rally by hitting his sword, dodged his next strike but got jump-striked as I healed
>>
is an arcane build worth making?
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>>144271690
Only if you are really bored or hate yourself.
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>>144271690
Using hunter tools effectively is fun, farming for gems isn't as much.
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>>144271690
Yes. Ignore the autists who say otherwise.
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>>144272404
Except the gem farming for an Arc build is worse than any other. I would rather farm offshape BLT gems.
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>>144272539
That

Is

Exactly

What

He

Fucking

Said

You

Retard
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>>144272539
If only he said something similar to that

actually, scratch that. What if that was exactly what he said?
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>Fighting Logarius for the fifth time today
>Doing fairly well, got a visceral on him as he charged, managing to get good damage on him in second phase
>He chunks me pretty good, keeping messing up timing of my shots
>he goes in for a finisher, I manage to stagger him
>heal back health because of my rune, leaves him with a sliver of health
>pop another vial as he stands up, not fucking around now
>fire a shot at him just to get him lower
>somehow it staggers him
>finish him with a visceral
>mfw
God that felt great.
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>>144272623
No
he
didn't
.

He
severely
understated
it
.

Why
are
we
typing
like
this
?
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Is it possible to join more than one Covenant? Because I want the Chikage, but I've sworn allegiance to Valtr.
Plus at some point I'd like to open my eyes fully and become and Ayy Lmao.
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>>144273161
Yes. Covenants give you a special rune, and switching between them is as easy as switching the rune. No downsides to being in more than one
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>>144273161
You can switch covenants without any penalties
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>>144273351
>>144273273
Cool.
Still feel kinda bad about joining the Vilebloods though. They seem like cunts.
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>>144237639
/splishsplash/
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Should I spend my 26,000 echoes on levelling up, or buying THE WHEEL?
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>>144273902
I'd say leveling since the wheel in the shop has a waning slot. You're better off getting a lost or uncanny wheel from the dungeons.
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>>144274053
Which dungeons get me those?
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>>144274098
You can search glyphs online for them, I think there's a list for dungeon loot in the op. You'll need to go through all the main dungeons and create an FRC dungeon though
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>>144274098
Ihyll Root for Lost WHEEL which is the WHEEL you want.

So don't listen to that guy. Get the WHEEL, just don't spend a blood rock on it and when you're ready for depth 5 root delving get Lost WHEEL and replace regular WHEEL with it.
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>>144274514
Alright, cool. I'm not looking to main the WHEEL honestly, I'm pretty comfortable with my Hunters Axe.
I just want to use it now and then.
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Anyone need help or dicking around in an area ?
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>Kill Logarius
>give the summmons to Alfred
>go back to Cainhurst
>mfw
GODDAMN, that was unsettling.
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>>144275470
But so so cool.
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>>144275629
Oh, totally cool.
But fuck, it was like something out of FATE.
Motherfucker's crazy.
Where's his final resting place?
I'm gonna drop some coins to guide his way
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>>144275713
Where you first meet him
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>>144275470
who the fuck is logarius
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>>144275809
Cool.
Also, holy fuck is the Gold Ardeo expensive. Where's the best place to grind echoes? I gotta lot of purchases to make.
>>
>>144275925
Depth 5 chalices if you have any later game areas if you're there yet
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>>144275907
Leader of the Executioners, boss in Cainhurst
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>>144275925
Lecture Hall level 1 for the part of the game you are up to
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>>144275907
This dude.
Optional Boss in Cainhurst Castle
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>>144275907
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>>144276026
Right, those creepy Slime Students.
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>>144275925
Pigs in Mergo's Loft Middle is good if you're there, equip moon and heir runes for extra echoes
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>>144276182
Yeah, that's ez echos you'll get your pyramid head real quick
>>
Just lost 2.5 million echoes.

Why don't I feel that bad about it?
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>>144276457
Because you've prolonged The Hunt.
>>
>>144276457
Because you would have spent them already if you had something you needed to buy
>>
>>144276457
Well if you had that many you most likely have max vials and bullets and are at the level you want to be

So, no worries
>>
Do i have to kill witches to go to cainhurst?
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>>144276651
Yes
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>>144276651
Yes, apparently.
You'll probably want the Rune Tool anyways.
>>
>>144276651
No but might as well. They're the easiest boss and you need an item you get after the fight
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>>144276703
Will you get the fuck out of here you asshole?

Don't you ever sleep?
>>
Just solo obliterated Cursed Isz Ebrietas

Feels good man
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>>144276703
>>144276736
>>144276751
Im just rushing chikage
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>>144276752
Sleep is for the weak.

>>144277045
You may as well kill them anyway (even if you didn't have to). There is a crystal lizard in front of them, the unlock the rune tool, and they are one of the easiest bosses in the game.
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Cheapest way to get game and dlc?

Borrowed and beat main game awhile ago but want to own the game and play the dlc as well.
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>>144277217
Youre right. Plus hemwick is nice during the day.
>>
>>144277806
The cheapest way would be to find someone who owns it and to steal their PS4 and copy of Bloodborne.
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Where can I pick up some Twin Blood Shards. Just got myself a swanky new weapon and no TBS to use since I used all of mine on my first weapon.

I've unlocked everywhere up to Rom so far.
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>>144278607
Snatchers in Hypogean Gaol
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>>144278607
Into the Woods.
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>>144278735
Here or if you do the start of the next area or two you can just buy them.
>>
>>144278735
>>144278839
>>144278897
Thanks, homies. I forgot that I can buy them after Rom (at an exorbitant price). I'll go get snatched I guess.
>>
do the pigs in the forest turn into mimics after killing rom like the ones in yahargul?
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>>144280086
No. I think the mimics (Cramped Caskets) are the bodies the Snatchers kidnap and not the pigs.
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>>144280397
Yeah, don't the pigs just mutate into fucking monstrosities after the Blood Moon rises
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>>144280580
I'm not sure if the pigs in the woods mutate like the ones in Mensis. I always thought it was more experiments since those are in Mensis. Maybe it could be the fact that they're in a nightmare or something.
>>
Anyone have that picture of Djura flashing back to how horrific a Hunt can be?
I need it for reasons.
>>
>>144237521

DOES BLOODBORNE GENERAL WANT TO BE IN THE DARK SOULS GENERAL OP

DO YOU FIND REASON

http://www.strawpoll.me/10383841
http://www.strawpoll.me/10383841
http://www.strawpoll.me/10383841
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>>144283218
NO NOW FUCK OFF
>>
>>144283218
Billion times NO already, leave us alone. We still don't want to join your shithole, not today nor ever.
>>
>>144283218
jesus chrism just stop fuck off already
>>
>>144283218
As someone who's been to both who the fuck would want to move from here to there
>>
How do I into Bloodtinge build?
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>>144283804
I think people generally use Chikage for that
>>
>>144283804
This is the most fun way to do it: >>144243265
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>>144283804
Gascan>Witches>Amelia

From here you can either rush Cainhurst and beat Logarius for Chikage, or you can try and get someone to carry you through the DLC to the Hamlet for bloodletter. Also killing Simon early gives you bowblade but he can be tough without cheesing
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>>144284608
Seriously do you even play this game?
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>>144284875
Yes, I am probably the best player in these threads. Why do you ask?
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>>144284971
kek nice one
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>>144284971
jesus I was just joking when I called you autistic before, but now...
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>>144284971
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>>144284971
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>>144284971
Never forget where you were at this moment.
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>>144285757
You should have put this image beside it.
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>>144286065
>>144284971
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>>144286357
>>144286065

Fresh memes!
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>>144284971
>>144286357
>>144286437
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>>144283804
Seriously though. That really is the most fun way to play a tinge build. It gives you access to all the Tinge weapons as well as the big guns. It also let's you use the one handed mode of the Bloodletter well enough that you can use your guns too.

It also allows you to effectively rely on the starting axe until you obtain the tinge weapons and get decent gems for them.

>>144286357
Look you lazy, faggot. If you are going to try to burn me at least put in a little effort. I swear you kids these days have no sense of responsibility.
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>>144284971
>>144286984

I'll admit I appreciate the effort.
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>>144287082
You know that isn't my PSN ID or Character Name, right?
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>>144287364
>posts random webm that contains neither of those identifiers

prove it bitch

if ur so GUD
>>
>>144287364
I bet your parents can't even afford PS+.
>>
Please BBG, I beg of you.

Do what you just did for
>>144284971
with
>>144287436
>>
How should i be playing with the chikage? Mostly r1>l2 transform attacks or just yolo that shit and say fuck the hp drain? It seems pretty severe, especially with the r2s. This build will only have 15 skill but 50 bloodtinge.
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>>144287648
I don't think I can take that much autism in one day.

cya bbg im going the fuck to sleep


Also more on topic: I just noticed if you Make Contact long enough you'll switch arms!
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>>144287648
>>144287942
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>Mergo's lullaby is the same tune in Gascoigne's music box.

WHERE THE FUCK IS VAATI WHEN YOU NEED HIM
>>
>>144287974
Well I suppose if Lucy tells me to stay I'll have to.
>>
tfw want to go to sleep but too busy racking up blood sperm
>>
>making lucy memes
when will you people learn that doing anything related to him just makes him stay around longer. filter his trip, report when he derails, and move on.
>>
>>144288483
I have noticed that too. Invasions always pick up at the oddest of times
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>>144288483
Do you get anything from the Vileblood covenant past the gesture for handing in 1 dreg? I've handed in quite a few now and have like 12 on me but I haven't seen any other rewards yet
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>>144291512
Nope, just use the blood dregs for insight to buy delicious lead and blue elixer.
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>>144291718
you can consume them for insight? I had no idea, at least they have some use then
>>
Can the Rifle Spear still do this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI3aRB5LADk
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>>144293976
Nah, arc rifle spear got patched out sometime ago.
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>>144293976
>there will never be a good shotgun without having 50 BLT, +10, and a rare as fuck chalice gem
>>
>>144293976
Nope, that was patched fairly quickly. You can make a blt build and put flat blt gems into your blunderbuss to make something similar.
>>
>>144294278
The best you'll get is the Rifle Spear. It's got a spead effect and does loaads more damage than any of the shotguns.

I've been working on a Dex/Blt build recently and I've realized that I don't know what to use in my other hand while using the Reiterpalasch. Its not really worth it to use two pistols. I guess a shotgun? Maybe the piercing rifle? That's different.
>>
Ahh
>>
>>144296894
You were at my side, all along
>>
where to farm chunks?
in main story
>>
>>144297154
Farm then in ptwrx6tb if you can. Otherwise, your best option is werewolves in UCW. The chalice option is ridiculously quicker though.
>>
Is the bleed portion of the chikage any good in pve? Im just assuming that with the consecutive hits youd need to land for it to proc in pvp theyd already be dead.
>>
>>144298403
Only good against certain things (wet nurse is weak to it I think). You're better off using blood form most of the time anyway since it does more damage and swings faster, bleed is just a bonus
>>
>>144243265
>Bloodtinge Build
>Military Veteran
>not Noble Scion

Toppest of Keks
>>
>>144299371
This
>>
Does anyone have any good looking male sliders? I always play qt grills. Like a handsome young guy or a cool old man it doesn't matter.
>>
Why is Tricked Threaded Cane so goddamn BASED?

Like HOLY SHIT no one can touch me
>>
>>144299371
If I recall military vet gets you the base stats for the bloodletter (or gets you closer than scion does)
>>
>>144265210
Why can't we eat the placenta too?

Is it too gross?
>>
>>144299840
Memeletter a shit

Full BLT Chikage is so based
>>
>>144299371
>>144299508
>9 Arc instead of 6
Even if you dropped Strength completely Professional would be better.
>>
>>144273551
Well they are literally a bunch of cuckolds, so yeah.
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Besides Vaati and ENB, who can I watch for a lore fix on BB?
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>>144277973
THIS
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>>144292956
You wanna be a slut like the queen of the vilecucks?
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>>144300565
Just read the fextralife wiki

Then post your inane theories here so that we can laugh at your patheticaly low INSIGHT
>>
>>144300565
Redgrave, Aegon of Astora, Jerks Sans Frontiers
>>
>>144301051
Executioner pls, go play with your wheel somewhere else
>>
Amerifat here, what kind of accent is Eileen suppose to have?
>>
How do I make strength playable in PvP?
>>
>>144302845
I'm a britbong, not too great with accents but I recognise it. I'd probably say it's sort of northern accent, someone correct me if I'm being retarded
>>
with a blt build do I go str or skill?
>>
>>144303327
14/15 as I recall
>>
>>144303327
This is what I'm using for Chikage/Bloodletter/Bowblade. All tricked, of course.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17271
>>
Um burnt out on Bloodborne, guess I'll play Uncharted for the first time and come back and make a Bloodtinge build
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>>144276062
anon...
>>
>>144306021
shhh...

Let him dream
>>
>>144303327
Kind of depends whether you're going Bloodletter or Chikage. Personally I prefer the latter, so Skl. I don't feel like chugging sedatives 24/7.
>>
>>144300565
Why don't you figure it out yourself you braindead idiot?
>>
>>144237521
To hell with gem farming
>>
>>144307283
True, but it has to be done.
>>
>>144303327
There are more skill/blt weapons than str/blt weapons.
>>
>>144283218
/dsg/ is truly the cancer of this board.
>>
>>144303613
Is it even worth trying to make a build around that many different weapons?
>>
>>144307961
These weapons aren't different at all, they all scale with bloodtinge.
>>
>>144308060
You still end up with only half a moveset on those weapons.
>>
>>144308134
The only half that matters, except for bowblade.
>>
What's the point of the gatling gun? Poor synergy with bone marrow ash, and due to stat requirements no good build can use it.
>>
Ok, so does the tricked HMS only deal arcane damage with the beam spam or does hitting something with the glowing blade also deal arcane?
>>
>>144308316
fun
>>
>>144308316
>due to stat requirements no good build can use it
Every build with enough strength to wield it can use it effectively.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnv9aMjar5I
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>>144308553
>Every build with enough strength to wield it
As I said, no good build.
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>>144308593
Oh, you're that guy.
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>>144308593
epin
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>>144308669
>>144308736
nice, epic, i like it
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>>144308818
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post list of ACTUALLY viable builds
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>>144308986
Any.
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>>144308986
STR, SKL, BLT, ARC, or a mixture of any of the above.

What do I win
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>>144309071
>STR/BLT
>Viable
all you have is the bloodletter.
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>>144309071
Ok then sell me a BLT/ARC build
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>>144309356
And bowblade, chikage, evelyn, church cannon.
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>>144308391
Yes
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>>144309531
Yes to what? To the only beams deal arcane damage or yes to the hitting them with the tricked sword also dealing arcane damage?
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>>144309437
That's basically any Arc weapon plus any gun you want

this is the 2nd chemin boulevard capcha in a row, what does this mean
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>>144309437
>make a normal blt build
>get enough arc to use augur
>you can now parry and use bloodtinge melee weapons at the same time
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>>144309437
ok thinking on my feet here but perhaps a Chikage with a bunch of hunters tools and the ability to switch out to a parasite to mix it up?

I'd be gimmicky as fuck but who knows, might be fun
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>>144309590
Yes
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>>144309753
Fuck (you)
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>>144309071
>Str
>Arc
Wrong.
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>>144310505
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>>144310326
>running r1 spam meme weapon
the washing pole of bloodborne
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>>144311248
Mad vilecuck detected
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>>144246187
It's been a month for me and I have literally played nothing else.
All I do is just experiment with different builds and drop them halfway through for no particular reasons.
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If I kill V.A before Henryk will that fuck up the quest?
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>>144312160
Yes.
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Need help at forbidden woods
PW "autism"
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>>144312354
L A D S
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>>144312232
Guess I'll fight him now
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I really don't know what to do for my next build.

The tricked HMLS is easily my favorite weapon and I love the Hunter Tools but the grind for nourishings and elemental gems i'll need to fit my weapon arsenal is extremely unattractive to me.
Strength is fun and has some fun weapons but I feel obligated to use the pizza cutter most of the time since it's just THAT good, and even I get tired of it.
Skill has one of my favorite weapons (Church Pick) and BIG VISCERALS but it's pretty much the only Skill weapon that I enjoy using and I don't wanna pigeonhole myself that badly.
Neither the Chikage or Bloodletter are all that appealing to me.
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>>144312783
Holy Moonlight Sword can be a perfectly functional str or quality weapon.
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>>144313051
But I need to get MAX DEEPS out of its tricked form and beams since I like using them so much.
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>>144294762
Piercing Rifle is a lot of fun; easily my favorite gun in the game.

It also looks absolutely swagtastic.
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>>144300325
>Haha... *Honestly*...
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was going to buy ps+ / the DLC but just got the rejection email today for a job I interviewed last week. Back to vanilla BB i guess.
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>>144314034
What's your psn
Lov
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Which hunters Dream theme do you like more?
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>>144315161
First one because the aesthetic it's tied to is comfier.
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>>144312783
>I feel obligated to use the technically best weapons

You're just hurting yourself, Anon. STR has the largest variety of weapons and gitting gud with Blades of Mercy (having to hug everything whilst avoiding every attack) makes you a better player in general.

99 Arc Mensis builds are also fun as fuck, and since you'll want to be primarily using Tools rather than a weapon you can skip the grind entirely.
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>>144315713
I'm not really intent on using a 99 Arc build since I suck and I need other stats to perform well. I probably won't go past 50 since that's where scaling on the weapons stops. It's more for the HMLS than the tools, really.
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>>144313686
>swagtastic
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>>144314183
http://psnprofiles.com/oracewx

Anyone getting FPS drops for the watchdog boss in defiled pthumeru? I feel as if I can't hit him many times before the screen lags. Was thinking about summoning an NPC to help me with it
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>>144313686
It was the only thing that can be considered an actual rifle

Every other "rifle" in the game were actually just shotguns
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>>144315519
What do you mean by the aesthetic it's tied to? And can you recall at what insight it changes at?
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Anyone know if my name will be censored for having "Vag" in it?
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>>144317632
I'm sure it will.

What was the crass name you were going for?
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>>144317734
It'll have the word "vagrant" in it.
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>>144317632
>>144317734
For what it's worth, I saw a "captain dickball" on one of the scoreboard items and apparently that name's just fine...
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>>144317848
Maybe i'll just have one of you guys summon me once I finish up the character and tell if it's censored or not.
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>>144301379
Whenever we get into an argument over lore all I can think about is this scene
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sz9Z_tjz8s
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>>144315713
From my experience you'll have to fallback on a weapon for some situations. Certain bosses will persist through all your tools' ammo, even if you build for it correctly.
You're right though Arc builds are very very fun.
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>>144300565
Redgrave is by far my favorite BB lore guy.

Google the Paleblood Hunt
Also check his YouTube obviously
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>>144319483
Well yeah but you don't need Korean gem grinding just for taking on bosses, which is what Anon was worrying about.
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>>144320315
Why are they referred to as Korean gems?
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>>144320579
Korean MMOs are grindfests.
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>>144320762
Ah of course.
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>>144320315
Grinding gems will never be an issue for anyone other than min/maxers.
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>>144288012
>he doesn't realize that Winter Lanterns are singing Mergo's Lullaby.
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Countering with the ebrietas is annoying because usually by the time the animation ends I lose the chance to visceral the fuck out of the enemy.
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>>144321195
The 15 or so min/max lvl 98 autists that still exist will always believe everyone wants to spend 9001 hours grinding for gems to get and extra 10 AR.
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>>144321229
They're definitely not.
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>>144321481
Dash cancels. You also want to try and time it so the enemy attack still lands as you parry them; cancels the animation and you'll regain all the lost HP when you visceral.
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>>144321936
>You also want to try and time it so the enemy attack still lands as you parry them; cancels the animation and you'll regain all the lost HP when you visceral.
Yeah I've done that (not on purpose) and I've noticed it works consistently.
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>>144321573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqlaF77IYik

Sorry champ.

>But what about that annotation!
The songs are still aggressively similar. They might have even intended for us to think they're the same. Mergo created the Mensis Brain. Mergo almost certainly is responsible for the Winter Lanterns and it makes perfect sense that the Lanterns would be singing songs to soothe him.
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Why do the winter lanterns have doll clothes?
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>>144322247
because they're made out of dead dolls and messengers
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>>144322302
Why are there dead dolls? Who would kill them?
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>>144322402
To test out their new weapons of course.

I'm more surprised at the dead messengers bit.
What if they aren't actually dead?
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>>144322402
Hunters, obviously. If you kill a doll in the dream and come back, suddenly it's all shiny and new and repeats the dialogue from the start of the game.
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Can someone explain the Vilebloods for me? Who the hell they were, were they Pthumerians and how they are related to the church and the plague, why there are dozens of hideous bloodsuckers and why they all were murdered. And when they were murdered. I just can't get grasp of it at all. Do they have any connections to Mensis school/hunters in general? What was their "role" in the game?
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>>144322616
I've never killed my doll, why would I do that?
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>>144322718
>>144322614
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>>144322402
They only exist in nightmare realms, some have theorized that the lanterns embody the corruption and betrayal of the only things you used to consider reliable and friendly (doll and messengers)
Or

A Great One's tactic used to instill fear towards the Hunter. It's appearance would hit close to him to any Hunter.
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>>144322614
Messengers can be scumbags too, have you ever been in Isz?
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>>144322886
It just makes me want to rape them more instead of giving me fear though.

I don't even know why.
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>>144322993
They are a bunch of jews.

What did you expect? give you a discount?
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>>144322681
They're the descendants of the pthumerians, the first ones who came in contact with the eldritch truth.
Just like the original pthumerians, after death they revive and become undead or ghosts.
The church killed them because they knew their secrets.
They had their own hunters and were enemies of the church.
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>>144322718
You don't even have to, any hunter that's in the dream can kill a doll. Then they just go from the dream to the nightmare.
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Can someanon help me wit Loggins

Password is bbg
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>>144323782
omw
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>>144322681
The vilebloods aren't related to the Mensis ritual, but they do have interesting connections to Byrgenwerth.
An unnamed scholar stole blood from the newly discovered and under-investigated tombs of Pthumeru. The scholar took this blood to Cainhurst and the Queen imbibed in it, causing her immortality (Queen Yharnam cough cough). Vilebloods are those in service to the Queen. What's interesting about vilebloods is their blood is highly toxic and highly abundant in Vermin. Notice the maggots in the canyon that inflict poison?
There are ties that suggest the Vermin in their blood that set Vilebloods apart from other people, aside from their devotion to the Queen.
The queen wants the blood of Hunters specifically, because their blood contains the potential to yield offspring because of the hunters' being under the control of the Moon Presence (his seed can be seen in blood echoes, which are exclusive to hunters)

Queen Analyse shares the blood of Queen Yharnam, and vile bloods are people who in service to her, who also have high counts of Vermin in their blood
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>>144323850
Danke
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>>144323890
>Queen Yharnam cough cough
Nonsense, Pthumerians existed long before Byrgenwerth.
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>>144323890
If the vermin makes you a Vileblood, why there is both The League and Executioners? They sort of hunt the same thing, what's the purpose of being separate groups?
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>>144324249
>If the vermin makes you a Vileblood
That's not true
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>>144323334
I would argue that only Analyse and the ghosts we see are "descendants" or atleast influenced by the blood of Pthumerians. Vilebloods themselves seek to become like, or atleast yearn for unknowingly, the queen. They haven't any relation to Pthumerians as far as we know.
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>>144324285
What are the maggots in their blood then what he mentioned>>144323890
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>>144324390
Vilebloods have vermin, but not everyone who has vermin becomes a vileblood.
Vileblood is more like an ethnicity.
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What is the best gun for damage that doesn't require high bloodtinge? I mean regular guns not cannons and such.
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>>144322681
Cainhurstians are likely the descendants of the Pthumerians. A scholar of Byrgenwerth (possibly Annalise herself, but that's a baseless assertion) brought the Old Blood to Cainhurst which is what birthed the Vilebloods. Not everyone who comes from Cainhurst is a Vileblood (Maria, probably Arianna) and not all Vilebloods are from Cainhurst (the player). Vileblood seems to be what happens when you mix the Old Blood with that of a Pthumerian descendant.

For whatever reason (jealousy, wanting to maintain secrecy, revenge, wanting to steal the Vileblood's power, maybe Cainhurst had some control over Yharnam which had to be taken, all of the above or none of the above) the Healing Church decided the Vilebloods had to go and the only way to get that done was by murdering every cunt in Cainhurst. Thus the Executioners were born. They marched on Cainhurst and fucking rekt everyone.

We can't say for certain when it happened, but it was after the Healing Church was formed at least. It doesn't really tie into the rest of the game all that much beyond offering the opposing factions for players to pick and giving more insight into what's going on in general.
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>>144324383
All the vilebloods share the same physical characteristics of Pthumerians (bloodtinge powers included), and they all become ghosts or undead.
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>>144323890
But those maggots look different than the actual vermin we crush. Are they really the same origin? Why the snakemen turned... into snakemen and not bloodsuckers?
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>>144324534
repeating pistol?
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>>144324643
Only vilebloods/pthumerians become bloodlickers and gargoyles.
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>>144324629
>For whatever reason
Maybe it had something to do with the Vilebloods hunting people?
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Thanks ayy anon
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>>144324629
>Cainhurstians
Cainhurst is the name of their castle, not their race.
It comes from "Cain" which is the name of their king.
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>>144324013
Queen Yharnam's blood is what flows through Analyse's veins. What are you arguing?

>>144324285
>>144324390
Executioner's and the League hung the same people, for different reasons slightly, and the League doesn't stop at Cainhurst.
Every case of poison can be hinted at having vermin as the source. The maggots in poison water every where you find it.
The fact that vile bloods use their own blood to oil their blade and make it damage you.
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>>144324650
Okay thanks. As for parry I'm using Ludwig's rifle although I'm not sure it's the best choice for it
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>>144324938
I get what he's bitching about, your post is written in such a way that's implying that Yharnam was the Cainhurst Queen
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>>144324816
Hunting MP's Hunters.

The Healing Church isn't exactly friendly towards us.
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>>144324938
The League hunts everything impure, not just people.
Unlike executioners they go after beasts and ayys too.
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>>144324895
Texan isn't a race either but it's still used to refer to people from Texas.
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>>144324953
Ludwig's rifle or the hunter blunderbuss are fine for parrying but the ludwig rifle has more base damage (outdamaged by the blunderbuss with high blt) but then again your use of them is countering. So basically use whichever matches your look more.
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>>144324643
They are a more evolved state of vermin. Vermin in the water is what makes it poisonous. Poison is poison because of vermin.
The snakemen exist because of Madara's snake infesting the wildlife and area of the forest with vermin. Also they experimented with vermin infested corpses, could've resulted in snake men, to create the ashen plague, which is poison.
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>>144324534
Blunderbuss
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>>144325241
Beasts and ayys can have vermin
Impurity is vermin
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>>144324638
Where is the evidence that all vilebloods turn into ghosts?
It's more likely that something specific resulted in the women of cainhurst to become ghosts.
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Vermin causes Beast Scourge guys. They're infesting more than just beasts exclusively, but they're the root of beasthood

>Vermin is the Root of Impurity
>Fire is used to purify when hunting
>Beasts are weak to fire
>When you kill Loran Silverbeasts with fire, no vermin spring from their corpse

It's all there. Vermin are the root.
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>>144325676
The only places where ghosts are present are Cainhurst Castle and Pthumeru.
They also infest Logarius' weapons.
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What is the League and why did it feel so underdeveloped?
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Do no pants go well with the White Church Garb? I don't wanna wear the dress but there seems to be absolutely no other white legwear in the game.
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>>144326154
Crowfeather and executioner's.
It's better to match the pants with the vest under the coat though.
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>>144325746
>When you kill Loran Silverbeasts with fire, no vermin spring from their corpse
Wait what?
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>>144325746
Vermin coming from Loran Beasts also prove that those maggots are Vermin.
Which ties vermin to poison.
>>144325781
Pthumerian blood was likely spread throughout Cainhurst and its properties led to the cases of ghosts, none of this means they were direct descendants of Pthumeru though.
>>144326143
Essentially they are people that don't think people should fuck around with alien blood
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>>144326287
Loran Silverbeasts have vermin that jump out of their corpse when you kill them. Not if you burn them though.

Happens mostly in Nightmare of Mensis but I have photographic evidence of the same occurrence in a Loran Chalice.
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>>144326258
>It's better to match the pants with the vest under the coat though.

That's also white...
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>>144326316
>none of this means they were direct descendants of Pthumeru though
The fact that they share the same physical connotations, they're both ruled by a single queen, they both recognize the ring of bethorial and use similar weapons does.
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>>144326430
I know about the vermin jumping out, they annoyed the fuck out of me in Mensis, but I wish I had known about the fucking fire trick. Goddammit.
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>>144326460
>he wears the female version
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>>144326541
Just poke them with your hunter's torch for the last couple hits. You do upgrade your hunter's torch right? Just for those few enemies it can stunlock or who have absurd physical resistances right?
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>>144324638
Vilebloods isn't a term representing everyone from Cainhurst, Anon. The player can become a Vileblood and Crowsteel is likely also a Vileblood yet they're not Pthumerian descendants. Similarly Maria is related to Annalise and has those characteristics, but is not a Vileblood.
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>>144326470
Annalise could be a descendant, Arianne as well. The royal line as a whole could be, im just arguing that to be a vileblood you don't have to be a descendant of Pthumeru.
A lot of what you're arguing could be explained by the blood's presence in the residents veins through the imbibing process rather than by having Pthumerian ancestors.
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>>144326683
If I was some faggot it would've come with pants anyways so why would I be asking?
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Let's clear this up:
If Cainhurst royalists were descendants, they would already have Pthumerian (forbidden blood) in their veins, unless you're arguing that forbidden blood is Great One blood. If this is the case, the crossing of Pthumerian blood and Great One blood is what causes Annalise's Immortality.

My point is, nothing funky was happening with Cainhurst until after forbidden blood was brought and started the Vilebloods there.
This proves that vile bloods aren't just pthumerian descendants.


Does anyone disagree?
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>>144327778
I'm not arguing but could someone give citations for Annalise's background? Is it in the Cainhurst clothing sets or something else?
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Why can't I summon Alfred for BSB?
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>>144328471
You need to talk to him first.
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>>144328602
I have, he's by the forgotten Woods now. Is that why?
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>>144328471
I killed Amelia first on this playthrough and met Alfred near the Forbidden Woods entrance (instead of near the Old Yharnam entrance), and when I went back for BSB he couldn't be summoned.
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>>144328380
I'm not gonna do this I'm on mobile
Anything specific you want to know?
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>>144329235
Where are the theories on Pthumerian descent coming from?
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>start a new game
>killed 5 minutes in by an away away
brb trading in my ps4
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Incense is used to hold back beasts. There are two rooms which are full of just incense vases. The first is the door of the Great Bridge, forever locked to us. It's fair to assume that this door was how Ludwig and other church hunters would go out into Yharnam to hunt. They didn't want any beasts following them back, so on top of all the other security they incense the shit out of the room. Then there's the entrance to Upper Cathedral Ward.

Now there are beasts in UCW, but they barge in through windows or break in through the roof, so obviously they're not meant to be there. This means they would climb up from the bottom of Yharnam, all the way up there, avoiding the many defences in place to keep them away.

This seems like a long way to go just to be a coincidence. Can the beasts smell Ebrietas, even from so far away? Are they hunting her, there to taste her pure blood?
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Apparently there's a snake which would fall down from a tree in forbidden woods but the problem is WHICH TREE? Does anyone know the location? I'm freaking out, nervous and sweating so much right now. Fuck this forest.
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>>144330136
ALL OF THEM
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After half a dozen playthroughs, I think it's time to finally try a BL4 run

What am I in or here? Any particular advice? I've done a low-level run of almost all the souls games at this point, but I feel that it's going to be a different dynamic entirely here

I don't have to worry about equip load, but I can't rely on pyromancies or magic to help me out of tight situations, so I'll need to tackle this one differently
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>>144328380
It's from her lore

Apparently The queen of the vilebloods Annalise is a distant relative of queen Yharnam
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So why were all the kidnappers killed after the Blood Moon?
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>>144330352
>It's from her lore

u fokkin wot m8
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>>144330395
They weren't needed anymore, the ritual was complete.
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>>144330412
The LORE
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>>144329520
I'll only say what is stated in the game.
It's stated that she wants to have the "next child of blood"
When you or Alfred kills her, she drops an item that indicates she's not dead. The Queen of Yharnam also drops an item that hints at her consciousness still stirring. Arianna is a blonde prostitute that got chosen for inpregnatuon by a Great One, she's also said to have forbidden blood in her veins. A picture of a blonde baby is in Cainhurst.
It's implied that Arianne is from Cainhurst and she has blood different from most.

Implied that she is related to Annalise because of the picture.
Also the ring of betrothal can be presented to Annalise. The ring was found in ancient Pthumeru and it talks about unholy unions between Great Onea and Pthumerians or something. Well it's implied that Queen Yharnam was involved in one of these unions, and it's interesting that you can present the ring to Annalise who also has a lot of similarities to Yharnam.
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>>144330302
I assume it involves the Saw Spear and lots of pellets/papers.
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>>144330456
I thought the ritual had already been completed and that Rom the spider was just obscuring the moon.
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>>144330524
Thanks anon.
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>>144330657
The ritual requires a lot of corpses to create the One Reborn.
The sack men were sent in Yharnam to pick up people to turn into One Reborn parts.
The red moon killed everyone in Yharnam/turned them into beasts, so the sack men no longer had a job, and slacked so much that they died.
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>>144330226
No seriously do you know? I'm legitimately scared as fuck. Or have I been bamboozled about this?
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>>144330657
>>144330395
The kidnappers weren't aligned with Mensis were they?
They were pthumerians collecting bodies to add the the one reborn.
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>>144330395
They tried to take on the three hunters and got rekt
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Why do so many people an hero next to the abandoned doll?
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>>144331306
Can someone give me a rundown on The One Reborn?

I feel like I know nothing about him.
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Wanna try out an arc build for maximum fun. Anyone have a build for me to copy?
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>>144331720

99 ARC
whatever str/skl for the weapon you want (use the parasite+milkweed for extra fun, but you gotta go pretty far to get it).

Then VIT/END to whatever final BL you want.

Add gems for extra power, farm for crazy gems if you're autistic, and go spam some magic shit.
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>>144331720
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17309
For the funnest weapon in the game.
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>>144331720
Welcome to funtown, friend
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Is Oedon the originator of the Chalice Dungeons, in the same vein as Moon Presence being in control of the Hunter's Dream and the Orphan of Kos being the originator of the Hunter's Nightmare?
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>>144331956
>12 skill
>burial blade
What do you think you're doing
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>>144332123
Oh right, I edited that from a previous build I was working and forgot to take it off.
Whoops.
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>>144331717
He's probably the boss we know the least about.
He drops yellow backbones which are said to be special body parts collected by the healing church and that its used as bait to lure something out.

He was used to lure out a Great One so that Mensis could cross over into the nightmare realm?
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>>144332170
The 'lure' it's talking about is for the curses on the chalice dungeons

>Oh fuck some faggot made it in here
>He's making a break for the entrance to the Nightmare where Miccy is hanging out
>Better throw The One Reborn at him to keep the faggot out
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>>144330456
Well that's rude.They got them like half of the bodies their might not of been a ritual without them
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If using the Chikage and Bowblade in my blt build should i go str or skill?
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>>144333049
Neither. Pure BLT best BLT. The SKL or STR you'd need to make those stats useful would mean you'd have to nerf VIT to the point where you're made of glass, and even then untricked Bowblade and Chiky are mediocre as fuck.
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Best way to grind souls directly after Gascoigne?
I need 40k for BoM.
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>>144333501
The giant frankenstein fucks by the first gate shortcut and the dark house
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>>144334012
Ugh, that's still only 400 a piece. It'll take hours to get to 40k.
Guess i'll just wait until Old Yharnam and grind the beasts there for 1k a kill.
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Need help with the shadows? endless snake spam is bullshit.

snek
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How the fuck do people fight Ludwig aggressively
He just keeps fucking running away forever, and I can't ever land more than one hit on him before he immediately backs away
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>>144334951
I ask the same thing about a lot of Bloodborne bosses.
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>>144334951
>>144335091
Run towards them.
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>>144335141
But if I ran I'd only have enough stamina for a single attack before it jumped away again.
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>>144334909
Didn't mean to put a question mark. And snek is the password.
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>>144334951
I even try watching videos of other people playing, and the exact same shit happens for them
The difference is that they do 3 times as much damage as I do and have way more health whereas I'm only level 62 with a +7 weapon and shit gems and thus have to keep attacking relentlessly to kill shit in a reasonable amount of time
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>>144334951
Chase him and keep attacking. If you've got a fast weapon you can get two hits in at least before he runs. If you've got a slow weapon it'll more often than not stagger him on the second or third hit. Then when he tries to counterattack don't run away, dodge around it and continue attacking.
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>>144335489
That's what I'm doing, but after I get two hits on him he either uses the charge, jumps into the air, or backs away to the other side of the room.
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>>144252568
It's not you. I started with Dark Souls, played Demon's, played the hell out of 2, loved Bloodborne, and am playing 3. Dark Souls and Bloodborne are different, how kind of boring 3 is aside. I'd recommend 1 and 2. Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne have comparably amazing single player. Dark Souls 2 has a lot of single player, and it isn't terrible by most standards, but compared to the others it's bad.

That being said, play 2. Huge weapon variety, respecs built in, and a lot of detail added that most people don't like to acknowledge because of the faults. Make a character, powerstance two weapons to maximum fun and zero shielding, and level the stats that make them do damage. Google how to make Adaptability work but otherwise spoil nothing.
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50 SKL
50 BLT

2 blood rocks, and I already have a +10 Chikage and Bowblade

Is there anything else bloodtinge I should spend these on or just regular skill weapons?
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>>144335314
Still looking for help?
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>>144335605
When he jumps dodge as he lands and keep attacking. When he charges dodge the charge and rush him down. When he backs away dodge towards him and smack his face a little.
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>>144335764
You can make good use of the tricked bloodletter
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Thank you kind Executioner!
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>>144335764
Reiterpallasch, Evelyn, Rifle Spear
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>>144335764
If you have enough strength (14) Bloodletter is good. You can try out the Reiterpallasch too.
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>>144266395
98-120

98 for a more limited build, more levels for more strength. Go past 98 and you can be matched with the 150s though. You can get saddled with someone BL138 or something either way, but whatever.
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>it's a chalice dungeon with two or more spider summoners
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>>144336386
What are the exact range formulas?

I thought they were the same as DS1 but apparently they're larger?

>>144336461
I got one recently with a bunch of spider summoners, AND a bunch of hemwick witches summoning their little faggots.

And it was cursed.
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>>144336461
>it's a witch of Hemwick room
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>>144332092
Oedon is Blood Echoes
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>>144336461
>die to a room with two spider summoners
>take a break after respawning at the lamp
>the little shits track me all the way to the lamp and kill me there too
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Is there any way to make your PS4 take screenshots bigger res than regular HD?
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>>144336018
Or just shoot at him till he's dead.
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>>144336810
I've been murdered at the boss fog by them before. By running from the lantern to the fog

Fuck, they're Goddamn smart missiles.
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>>144336823
>take pictures of the screen that are higher resolution than the screen

...

You can set it to save as png so you don't get jpeg garbage all over the images, but that's it.
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Is 15 end good? Or should I go to 20?
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Anyone want to help me at night time frontier?
Lvl 43
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>>144337307
15 is good enough.
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>>144337371
Sure, pass?
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>>144337509
"Autism" first lamp
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>>144337307
I prefer 20, but 15 is reasonable.

The way I suggest planning out a build is to put 50 vit and 20 end in the planner first, then you step those down only when you need to move the points to a more critical stat.
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Some one give me a pure arc build? Which weapons? Gems?
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>>144337961
>Pure arc

There is only one pure arc weapon

and that's the based tentacle molestation build

Also see >>144332080 for how to start it off
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>>144337872
Do you have your matchmaking set to worldwide?
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how the fuck do you kill those 3 hunters in yahargul
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>>144337952
so how do you manage 50 vit and 20 end on any build putting any number of points into more than just one offensive stat
even just 18 arc means I have to drop my end from 20 to 12, or drop my vit
which of those would be less crippling?
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>>144337872
I'll join as well
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>>144338246
Every weapon with elemental gems is pure arc. Rosmarinus and flame sprayer too.
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>>144338402
Yes don't
Just in case don't put in the " and also the A is capitalised
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>>144338682
Those don't count because they aren't the fucking Parasite

It's the only pure arc weapon in the sense that it's the absolute best
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>>144338569
When I get in a situation like that I start siphoning points, reluctantly, from Vit and End. I am still comfortable with 44 vit and 15 end. I am also willing to leave an offensive stat at 40 instead of 50.
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Okay seems to not be working
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>>144339005
I'm not really a fan of putting strength at any less than 50.
But 12 end seems like it'd be a bit low for strength weapons, wouldn't it?
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>>144338569
Change your Origin according to the build that you want to do first
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>>144339249
You can drop vit to 44 and move those points to End.
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>>144339249
Then why use Cruel Fate?
Just use Professional or Military Veteran for Str Builds
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>>144339249
Lower VIT then.

You don't need 50 that badly. use the extra stamina to avoid taking that extra hit.
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>>144339248
Try restarting your ps4
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>>144339475
Because Cruel Fate has the lowest BLT, making for the most efficient start for STR builds using some amount of ARC for tools
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>>144339665
hunter tools are worthless for anything but pure arc builds, it's just a waste of points.
just go pure strength instead.
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>>144339665
On Str builds you want 8 BLT unless you are going for the HMLS, and unless you are, you want the build with the lowest Arc.
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>>144339824
18 arc is good if you are using the HMLS anyway, just not in general.
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Is the Arc damage in some Str and Skl weapons put there purely so Arc builds can't change them?
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>>144340145
That and so you can't buff them.
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Anybody wanna help me check if my character's name (Vagrant Evelyn) is censored or not? The "Vag" is suspicious.
The password is fugg and i'm at the very start of Old Yharnam.
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>>144340672
Lol yes
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>>144336461
I just had my firs experience of that in ailing loran
>two doors in bonus area before boss
>one is see through and has a red spider on the other side
>other is solid
>decide to open the solid one
>10 red spiders crawl out
Jesus fucking christ I almost had a heart attack, had to run away instantly and kill them with a tiny tonitrus while backing away, then rush through a room with a werewolf before I made it to the area with the two summoners. I'm surprised I didn't die in my first try.
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>>144340764
Am I good?
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>>144340672
I'll ring
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>>144340672
>>144341039

All good.
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If you could ask a single question about Bloodborne lore to Miyazaki himself and he was legally forced to give you a complete reply, what would you ask?

Other than who turned Eileen into a wet nurse.
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>>144341603
>Why can't we give the engagement ring to the doll?
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>>144341696
Took the words out of my mouth
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>>144341513
Good to hear. I was worried that the censor would be super sensitive like the one from DaS2 but it seems that isn't the case.
Thanks for the help, pals.
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>>144341603
Why couldn't we fuck Gascoins daughters?
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>>144342232
>daughterS

every tiem
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God I can never get the jump the the old workshop
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>>144343767
It was hell, I always hate those "fall down on the right spot" segments from any soulsborne game, they're so terribly designed.
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>>144343658
I want them both, not just one.
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>>144300565
I like Silver Mont, mostly oral essays but those are fine.
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>>144344774
His voice makes me feel so violent
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Is it reasonable to use a 70 arc build for a level 98 bl cap?
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need some help at orphan on ng, pass is bbg
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>>144348656
70 is only really useful for Hunter Tools and if you're doing a Hunter Tools build you should go 99 or go home.

30 Vit is enough.
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>>144349436
>30 Vit
>99 Arc
>BL98

Can't read.
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>>144348656
Yeah 70 Arc is good for tools. You can get 40 Vit at 98 if you start with Cruel Fate
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>>144349373
I'm ringing, still need help?
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>>144350448
ye
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>>144350448
fuckin christ, I'll ring again
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>tfw no gf to pickle pee her pump a rum
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>>144351231
My bad totally fucked some of your V.atks
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>>144351572
this got damn boss and it's random ass 1hit kos, I'll ring again if you're still up for it
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oops
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>cursed Amgydala
JUST
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Anyone mind helping me with Abhorent beast in Ailing Loran?

Pass: bastard
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>>144350448
we fuckin did it anon, palms are sweaty. much thanks for the help
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>>144353093
Oh my God, yay!

Happy for you, wish I made it to the end
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>>144353274
you were there in spirit anon, don't worry
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>totally forget that you can co-op in chalice dungeons
>start getting summoned and helping out fellow hunters
>show them where hidden walls and treasures are
>taking down bosses with ease all while earning vermin
>getting messages every now and again, thanking me for all the help

I fucking love you guys.
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>>144332080
>run first pthumeru chalice twice to get two radial 10% fire gems from layer 3 hotdog

what in the fuck is layer 3 hotdog, also this Undead Giant is fucking impossible at lv 23.
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>>144353659
I'm a bad phantom, something about not having any consequence to dying just makes me play like a suicidal moron when if I were playing for my own echoes I'd be more cautious.
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>>144353659
Getting the occasional "Thank you so much" message is the best feeling
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>>144353274
fuck off teacup
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>>144353981
>help someone kill defiled Watchdog
>he sends you a message
>"help w amygdala pass is amygdala"
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>>144353754
Undead Giant's a pushover. He's a fucking mob.

Layer 3 Hotdog is the boss of layer 3 who is a dog that is hot.
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>>144352827
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It had less than 3k left.
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>>144351271
Your crow won't make us jealous; we fist pigs here.
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>>144354256
Some people mang

Or,
>I beat kos
>where do i go next
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>>144354730
That's pretty hard to explain without visual indications.
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>>144354423
Hush, it's sleepy time now Lady Maria.
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>>144354310
idk mang. I'm having way too much trouble with this fucking shitlord. Guess I need to farm some levels rq. thanks for the info on hotdog tho friend
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>>144354903
The visual indication is there, you've finished. you've gone down all the way
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>>144354914
>examine corpse<
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>>144355039
don't listen Undead Giant is one of the worse dude
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>>144355081
There's still Laurence though.
Nobody kills Laurence before Orphan.
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>>144354914
Are there any other Bloodborne ohaiyou edits out there?
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>>144355083
Ahhh, I'm looking forward to this 1v1 honorable fight with this Hunter!!
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>>144355232
I-... I killed Laurence before Orphan...
>>
Nobody plays this game anymore lol
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>>144355474
I did too. Orphan is a more climactic fight, so I'd say that's a better way to cap off the DLC.
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Just realized Silverbeasts don't have sideways heads. They hold their heads sideways all the time, but their neck is actually straight.
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>>144355232
>Nobody kills Laurence before Orphan.
I went back and fought him as soon as I found his skull.
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Who /sweatyclothes/ here?
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>>144355698
lol I get summoned every other minute for Ludwig lol
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>#252 in vileblood register
> same droplet gem in every slot
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>>144356853
And?
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>>144357402
Gems are meme
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>>144355308
I think there was one with Micolash somewhere
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>>144357684
In random invasions they are, especially after the DLC hit. We have known this for awhile. Fight clubs are where gems become an issue.
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>>144358020
k nobody cares
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>>144353659
I can't handle IVs or needles; I'm squeamish as shit. Sometimes I wonder how Bloodborne ended up being my favorite game.
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>>144357748
I remember the Momiji edit of Micolash but not an ohaiyou of him. I'll have to find it.
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>>144358217
clearly, you do
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>>144342181
The fact that ass and dick aren't censored means you generally don't have to worry, I think the only time I saw a censored name was when it was most likely fuck. Although I wonder if the infamous nig is still censored, don't think I ever saw someone with it in their name
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Can anyone help me with watchdog? Layer 3 Pthumeru chalice? Sl26 pw: bbg
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>>144358906
Interestingly, I ran into a player the other day named "el_**********"

I messaged him and it turned out his name was "el_penatrador"

Nevermind that there was a boss literally named "Penetrator" in Demon's Souls...
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>>144358981
>depth 1 hotdog
I was actually on my way to turn on my PS4 for you but goddamn nevermind
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>>144358981
Can't find you with the SRRC
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>>144358981
You're going to have to kill him twice and there's no way I'm carrying you twice. You want an Arc build, you fucking work for it.
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>>144358906
If you or anyone else wants to test, I'll right a beckoning bell at the central yharnam lantern in a moment with passwd "k***ht" (yes with asterisks) and we'll see what happens.

just gotta sprint through central yharnam
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>>144359293
Well shit, if their going to censor foreign words then there's always a reason to worry. I was pissed when one of my das2 names was censored for having "dago" in it.

This stuff always reminds me of monster hunter tri where you couldn't say "after" cause it was german for asshole or something. Af ter hundreds of hours of playing I kept subconsciously adding a space whenever I typed it other places too. "af ter" pretty much became a meme
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>>144360020
okay it's ringing
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>>144360020
You can also test names just by making a root chalice and seeing if the creator name is censored, probably faster if someone already has a character with nig in it.
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>>144360261
>playing post-gen 2
deserved it family
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>>144360505
True. Nevertheless 'Knight nig ho' is ringing his bell if anyone wants to come take a look.
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>>144359293
Couldn't that be down to a copyright issue? Bamco did the PAL publishing of DeS, and that's the exact kind of dumb shit Bamco might pull.
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>>144361013
>Bamco did the PAL publishing of DeS,

Oh god did they?

I thought they didn't get their cum-stained claws into the series until DS1.
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>>144361208
They didn't touch it until after Atlus proved there was a market for it. They had little to no power over it until after DaS1
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>back of box
>2-5 network players
>5
>five

wut
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>>144361792
sinister dungeons lad
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>>144361845
but nobody ever invades chalices
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>>144361792
Can a Hunter of Hunters invade whilst an Adversary is around? Add two summons, five players.
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>>144361942
ok
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>>144361996
pretty sure HoH takes up a summon slot
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>cleric beast, pass bbg

tell me if my name is censored pls
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>>144362379
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>>144363250
gg from

guess we don't have to worry about the word filter that much after all
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>>144363332
Do you think it might be regional thou?

Perhaps the name isn't censored when you're using a pass.
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>>144358412
It's because you want to be fucked by tentacles
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>>144363332
Maybe it's an age thing, or a location thing. Maybe people who see censored names are all youngfags, or maybe in Bongland the filter doesn't matter.
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>>144363465
>>144363585

I suppose it's possible, but knowing from is it really likely?
>>
Can somebody please explain to me how the hell could a Gatling Fucking Gun possibly exist when it was supposed to have been first made during the American Civil war?

When this game is supposedly supposed to be in early Victorian era?
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Does the password negate levels between coop?
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>>144364590
Necessity breeds ingenuity.
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>>144364590
Powder kegs are ahead of their times
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>>144334421
What about the Church Giants in Cathedral Ward?
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>>144364590
aliens
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>>144364670
>>144364768
Yeah, but a handheld non-crank operated Gatlinggun?

When Richard Gatling himself is still a kid at the time?

The hell?
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>>144364595
Yes. With a pass the level ranges are completely gone and it will just lower your HP a ton if you get summoned by someone much lower level than you.
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>>144364925
Powder kegs mate
They made a chainsaw too
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>>144364960
So could a max level play with a fresh start character then?
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>>144364839
Is she related to the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
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>>144364925
Are you retarded?

Because you sound pretty fucking retarded right now.
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>>144364590
Fictional fantasy world.

Make a Whirligig Saw today that fully functions and doesn't break into pieces immediately when used to fight, say, a bear. Make a memeblade that doesn't snap off after the tenth time you try to trick it. Make a Saw Cleaver that doesn't break the tricking mechanism after repeated use.

It's not a history lesson, /k/, fuck off.
>>
Beat the One Reborn recently and now I'm putting off continuing on so I do some things I missed.
Any tips for fighting Chikage Hunter?
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>>144365090
It would effectively cripple the max level player to the point of uselessness but yes It is possible
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>>144364590
well alien no live before 51!!?!
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>>144365493
>Any tips for fighting Chikage Hunter?
He's a pain in the ass no matter what you do.
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>>144365597
Circle strafe
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>>144365597
So how the hell am I gonna avenge my waifu?
I'm really regretting never putting any points into Arc, I bet Executioners Gloves might help.
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>>144365269
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>>144365493
Just cheese him if you don't feel like fighting fair. He sure as hell doesn't.
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>>144365779
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or retarded.
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>>144365867
How do I cheese him? Thought they patched out the whole thing where if you de-aggroed him he'd just stand there and let the Chikage drain him.
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>>144365750
They help in any and ALL situations

It can even help you carry you through the whole game
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>>144366038
Well, I'm level 60 or so with 10 Arc and Nightmare of Mensis, I think it might be a bit late.
There's no respecs, right?
>>
>>144365995
Have him follow you to the door and he'll back off. Use poison knives if you have them and get a hit in where you can. Repeat until dead.
>>
Just had a Monocular duel with someone.

I love this game.
>>
Where can a level 95 go for some pvp hotness?
>>
>>144367406
Mensis Middle or the DLC are your best bets.
>>
>>144367406
Anywhere in Frontier/Mensis/DLC.

Probably all over most other areas too.
>>
>Network connection lost, returning to title menu
>ignore it for 5 seconds
>Discovered chime of sinister bell
>invade and once it loads cancel the message
>no problem

has this been happening to anyone else lately? I've had it constantly the past day or two.
>>
>>144368483
It's been around forever
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>>144368483
Thats a regular thing. Don't know why but when that happens but ignoring the message will pretty much always connect you with someone.
>>
Is there any place that you can grind chunks apart from depth 4 chalice bosses?
>>
>>144368963
wolves in the upper cathedral
but chalices are way faster. Just make an Isz chalice, kill the brainsucker, delete, use a glyph, and repeat. There's no preset chalice that gets you to the boss faster.
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>>144368963
Depth 5 Chalice bosses

Seriously though, chalice bosses are your best bet. If you've found all the chunks the game/dlc have to offer the other option is to farm the werewolves in UCW, which isn't as reliable as chalice bosses when it comes to getting chunks.
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>>144368963
depth 5 chalice bosses
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Is there still a lot of people playing Bloodborne? Dark Souls 3 sucks ass and I want to go back to Bloodborne.
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>>144369414
Yes to everything.
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>>144369414
yeah, it's still plenty active
whenever I find a PS4 player that's still playing DS3 over BB the only thing they can really tell me is that they prefer the fantasy setting over the victorian one.
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>>144369591
>they prefer the fantasy setting over the victorian one.

They clearly haven't played much more than the main questline in BB then because the victorian setting gets sidelined pretty quickly.
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>>144369840
>upper cathedral ward
>Yahar'gul
>Cainhurst
>Mensis
>all the DLC
>not victorian
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I mean, you don't really NEED Health and Stamina, right?
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>>144370068
dude, forgotten woods is TOTALLY just a forest
fuckoff
>>
>>144369591
>whenever I find a PS4 player that's still playing DS3 over BB the only thing they can really tell me is that they prefer the fantasy setting over the victorian one.
Really because I hear it's because they already played BB to death and DS3 is the newer installment with a more alive community. Perhaps you need more friends.
>>
>>144369516
>>144369591
That's good to hear.
>>
>>144370083
>40 vit
>"not having health"

k then
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>>144370180
Yeah but it's between cathedral ward and Byrgenwerth.
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>>144370083
That is just disgusting.
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>>144370381
Why?
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>>144370245
You sure sound riled up. Sorry pal, DS3 was a disappointment. There's no getting around that.
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>>144370381
>>144370321
I like stupid builds.
>>
>>144370180
Forgotten Woods and Hemwick Charnel Lane definitely feel more rustic, but most of the other areas take place within Yharnam itself.
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>>144370667
It was a shitload of fun for a while, but then I played BB again. There's no going back; DS3 is utter garbage in comparison.
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>>144370481
Hybridised meme build using shit that doesn't work together. Your Reiter and Untricked Chiky are going to be dogshit and you've spent 16 levels just to use the cannon instead of making your Reiter better, when you're a BT build using the Evelyn and Reiter and would get far better mileage out of your bullets from them than the Cannon which you'll likely never hit anything with because you consider 40 Vit as no health which means you're obviously a retard.

I'm sorry I got carried away. Shit build and you should feel bad regardless.
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So about how long do you believe it's been between the events at Byrgenwyrth and the founding of the Healing Church, and us arriving at Yharnam and the Hunter's Dream?

It appears to be within Willem's lifetime, and possible the Bloody Crow if you believe he was the first HoH, but Willem could be extra-fucking-old on account of the eyes.

On that note, is Gehrman still alive in the waking world, entering the dream to meet with us, or did he die long ago? If it's within his lifetime then that points to the history of Yharnam and the Scourge being fairly short.
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>>144371076
Twenty years.
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>>144370717
>90 Arc
>Not 99 Arc
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>>144371076
The single gravestone in the old abandoned workshop makes me think Gehrman might be dead in the waking world. It's also the gravestone the doll is occasionally praying to in the hunter's dream.
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>>144370717
>>144370083
Do you think 36 vit and 15 end is better than 40 vit and 11 end? I'm starting to think so.

>>144371053
The reason my str is pumped is because on top of the Cannon I plan on using both the Rifle Spear and Bloodletter. I can also use the Gatling Gun. I do lose out on a 20 or so damage with the Reiter, but the ability to parry with it and then Bone Marrow+Cannon somebody is just a really entertaining idea. I already have a Dex/Blt build.
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>>144371506
I thought it was Maria's gravestone, hence the Old Hunter Bone.
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>>144371693
It's just a shit build to be honest.
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>>144371506
I'm not sure which gravestone you mean but there are two.

The first is the grave that leads to the Hunter's Nightmare. In the waking world you find the Old Hunter's Bone there. OHB specifies it belonged to a pupil of Gehrman, and the grave likely belonged to that pupil.

The other one she prays to and is on its own is your grave if you awaken.

Neither of those gravestones are Gehrman's.
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>>144371814
Huh, that makes a lot more sense now that I think about it. Maria moves around the same way you do when buffed by the old hunter bone and she never has to buff herself, forgive me for I was just being an idiot.
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>>144371076
It's been long enough since just on the Healing Church side they had to find Bribri in Isz, experiment on people, kill Laurence, figure out how old blood works, establish a religion around spreading it, devote huge cathedrals and chapels to it, burn Old Yharnam, build a whole separate workshop, start training hunters, and have Ludwig do his whole bit including spelunking for guidance.

Since it turned out the grave was Maria's, Gehrman is probably completely in the Hunter's Dream like we are. Depending on how much we can read into the Old Hunters trailer he was already old when they sacked the hamlet.
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>>144371693
>Using untricked Bloodletter
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>>144371506
>>144371814
>>144371956

Note that the Old Hunter Bone specifically refers to the apprentice as 'he', though this could be written off as Maria simply being forgotten over time.

I'd agree it's Maria's grave, as Gehrman would've certainly wanted her laid to rest nearby upon her death.
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>>144372393
The original Japanese text for the OHB is gender neutral in reference to the apprentice. Saif hunter quicksteps too, but it is most likely Maria's since Saif hunter doesn't seem like he was as important as the woman Gehrman made a fucktoy in the image of.
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If you want a level 117 BLT build this is the way to do it.

You're welcome.
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>>144370667
Dark Souls 3 was a disappointment for me only in comparison to the old hunters, maybe I expected too much.

But the bosses we got in the main game had some great moments, nameless king, dancer of the boreal valley, twin princes, aldrich, soul of cinder, champion gundyr, oceiros, pontiff sulyvahn, the abyss watchers, dragonslayer armour. A couple of them were more interesting than any boss in BB outside of the dlc for me.

Really, the only ones I disliked were wolnir and ancient wyvern, and that's much less than I can say for other souls games, Bloodborne included.

I thought the world was presented nice, the fact that you could see every single outside location from high wall is pretty commendable. The pacing of the game was better as well, the first third introduced lower upgrade mats and spells, up to the abyss watchers which was almost like an entry barrier "how can you apply what you have learned situtation" which I preferred over the somewhat frontloaded bosses in bloodborne, whereby gascoigne was harder than most of the bosses following him, which was disappointing as I went further in. The second act opened up a bit more, and introduced more upgrade materials and gems while being more difficult in terms of standard enemies, and largely bosses. The final act then introduced end game spells and the harder bosses and enemies, and you could skip this via the dancer if you wished to.

I don't know, maybe I just feel stronger looking back on how I felt about Bloodborne before the DLC.
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>>144371814
Pretty sure the Doll can be seen tending to that grave too. Might be a little hint at that.
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Anyone want to help carry my bl29 ass through logarius? Pw will be chikage
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>>144372936
ok nobody cares
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>>144373016
>and you could skip this via the dancer if you wished to.

This is the ONE point in DS3 where you can break the painfully linear progression of the game. That alone makes it impossible for me to have the drive to make a second character and play through again.
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>>144373016
I'm sure the DLC for DS3 will be just as good.
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>>144373159
Blah blah. I should've put more into vit. I'll ring again as soon as I get back there.
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>>144371818
You still haven't explained to me WHY though. Because I do slightly less damage with some of my weapons?
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>>144373016
The Old Hunters is what makes BB truly great, DaS3 having two DLC could make it by far and away the best From game ever. If they somehow manage to make two The Old Hunter tier DLC DaS3 couldn't be contested
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>>144373658
See: >>144372936
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>>144373016
>first Gundyr
>Wyvern
>Deacons
>Vordt
>Old Demon King
>Wolnir
>Curse Rotted Greatwood
>first half of Nameless

were all awful. Dancer, Abyss Watchers and Aldrich were the definition of average. The rest were pretty good.

And you can't skip anything with the Dancer, the game locks you out of the Archives until you kill all the other Lords of Cinder. It does, however, help make the god awful first half of the game slightly less of a chore at least once you know what you're doing or just get the sword master to murder her for you.
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>>144373702
I think at least one of them will be good, but not both. Hell, even DaS2 manage to have 1 of it's DLCs be legitimately good.
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>>144373745
Oh, and Crystal Sages, they were awful too. To the point where I completely forgot about them.
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>>144373658
Don't feed the tards.
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>>144373745
I like greatwood.
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>>144373712
Do you act like the greatest player ever because you actually believe it or because it's part of this weird tripfag persona you've fostered for yourself?
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>>144374076
>>144374076
>>144374076
New Thread
>>144374076
>>144374076
>>144374076
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>>144374075
ignore the tripfag
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>>144374075
Little of column A, little of column B
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>>144373016
>you could see every single outside location from high wall is pretty commendable
they actually fucked this up sort of, the undead settlement is there twice
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>>144373745
I disagree, I thought the first gundyr was a great tutorial boss with an interesting phase mechanic that made him memorable.

He wasn't the hardest boss, but I appreciated his unique feeling atmosphere and moveset, there wasn't anything about the fight that felt cheap.

Wyvern I would agree on, it's unneccesary, and I feel they could have simply made it a mini boss, I am however glad they decided to make it an insta kill boss rather than something like ancient dragon in dark souls 2 or something as tedious as bed of chaos.

Deacons had a very unique atmosphere, I loved the holy congregation and loud organ feeling the fight gave off, and the fact that the boss and deacons actually seem to act to work together makes the boss feel better than other lazily slapped together mob bosses for me. The fight wasn't challenging, but it left a good impression.

Vordt was okay, he wasn't the best boss, but he's not awful either, he's comparable to bosses like taurus/capra/tower knight in essence, and he had fun phase mechanics.

Old Demon King had an array of nice visual effects in his moves, and he was basically the equivalent of a boss like quelaag

Wolnir was pretty bad

Curse rotted greatwood wasn't a great boss, but it also wasn't frustrating like you would expect from it's design, and it did reach the level of feeling like a looming tree

I disagree about the first half of the nameless king, it was visually spectacular and hugely memorable, it felt like they perfected the flying dragon type boss, and the camera issue complaints baffle me, unlike other bosses with camera issues like bloodletting beast and giant lord, the king actively tries to get you to stay in the non-camera issue area, in front of him, by his forward thrust attack and the higher neck damage

Dancer was one of my favourite fights in 3, to be honest, I'd hardly call her average, the unique moveset, the atmosphere of the fire and dissonant string music, it was impressive.
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>>144373159
You're welcome, faggot.
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>>144374561
>it felt like they perfected the flying dragon type boss
How can you say that when that phase has like 3 attacks? The flying combo, the fire breath, and the ground attack
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>>144374706
The best dragon fight in the series was Kalameet.
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>>144374706
he has the lightning circle attack followed by the swoop

he has the three wave gust attack

he has the extended lightning slam attac

he has the three hit melee combo

he has the thrusting forward attack

the forward dragon breath

and the downward dragon breath

and the standard slam
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>>144375125
you say that like thats interesting, the flying attack and lightning slam are good, rest are just eh. and also fighting him just equates to doding an easy attack then trying to awkwardly hit a dragon snout.

The second phase is good but the first is just filler
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>>144375364
I think it's still a decent set for a phase that sets up the true boss, and is comparable to good bosses in say, dark souls 1 alone.

Which is why I didn't get the comment about it being "shit".

Visually and atmospherically, I thought it was masterclass, I loved how Sakuraba used a similar composition to the Gaping Dragon to instil that thundering sense of absolute chaos.

The slower, bell/stuttering harpsichord in the first phase by contrast was a great way to balance out the theme of the fight.

I think both phases were incredibly strong
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>>144374561
Alright, it's like this.

If a boss can be steamrolled with little to no effort on the players part, or more specifically does not put up much of a fight at all, it's an awful boss. It might make for a good visual distraction, but it doesn't work as a boss fight.

Take Astraea in DeS for example. Great atmosphere, voice work, implications, etc. Everyone loves it, and I love it too. It's a horrible boss. Honestly, it kind of smells of cut content.

The majority of DS3 is like this - lots of visual distractions (which aren't even on that level to begin with), too little substance. They nailed it after a certain point, but too much of the game is lacking in this regard. Coupling that with how DS3 has the smallest boss count in the series makes it kind of ridiculous.
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>>144375790
>if a boss canbe steam rolled with little to no effort

But you are saying this as a player with presumably 4 games experience.

If the developers made the first boss of every game as hard as ebrietas it wouldn't successfully work at both drawing in new players, or setting up the games pacing, it should be a gradual slope.

Compare how you think Vordt is shit to Maiden Astraea, by comparison, he has a ton more moves than vinland and is much more dynamic and aggressive, his ease however comes out of experienced players being used to the type of bosses they set out.

To me, it's only bloodborne that get's out of this trope, gascoigne and blood starved beast were difficult, but the rest of the bosses following were comparatively less so in my opinion.

Would you say Rom is a good boss because of her piss poor design making her tedious and frustrating to deal with even by people with souls experience, making her "difficult"?

I wouldn't, but you're free to your own opinion.

I can't see how Old Demon King, vordt, the first half of nameless, deacons and iudex weren't all interesting bosses, comparable in essence to bosses like shadows, gaping dragon, quelaag etc.

I guess I fundamentally disagree that every single boss has to be challenging to be interesting.
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