Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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always know your swords

Nth for firewall is good BUT not the best skill ever.

c1 monk, c2 monk, or c3 monk?

Nth for firewall is not good

Nth for firewall is good.

>>144094895
>monk
Might as well go all or nothing.

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REPOST
Will draw sketch (or full drawing depending on the level and/or content) requests for anyone who can supply pictures of a party (above 3 people) doing things outside of dungeons (must be stamped with "Cute!" or "Great job!" in chat)

Will draw full drawings for anyone who manages to get me webms or videos of you and/or a party blowing up a boss of above level 125 in less than 7 seconds, same rule as above applies ("Cute!" or "Great job!" as a timestamp).

Willing to make changes (in case you don't like those two words)/ a deal with different things if they are in my interest/if you're reasonable enough.

will deliver all drawings this week (unless I get too many but that's a low chance since barely anyone here parties)
also your footage might be used for a meeting that involves general MMO developers and stockholders in Korea.

>>144094895
c3 monk of course dont you want to be a kung fu legend anon ?

>>144094727
>chaplain
>good
>swordies
>good
>qs
>good

Anyone knows how does fire wall and circling interact ?

Nth for firewall is shit BUT not the worst skill ever.

>>144095018
It will gather shitposters.

>>144094895
C2 and pick up PD instead as you don't really gain much from going C3 that you don't already have in C2. You might also get parties if you hide your monk class icon.

Why is everyone so triggered about fire wall all of a sudden?

>>144095256
Well, I got nothing better to do.

>>144094964
I did a webm of me destroying the 200 boss solo with my shinobi, but it's not stamped. Does it count?

Does anybody know how catacombs blade interacts with damage lines/attribute bonuses? Would a chaplain do an extra 492 to plate targets per damage line for example?

>>144095256
Someone posted data and people sperg about why it's not doing MAD DEEPS like an elememe.

>>144095353
If you give it to me and give a screenshot of you on the same character saying one of those timestamp catchphrases + your requests, then sure.

22nd for fire wall is bad due to aoe ratio mechanics and everything else in pyro's kit outclassing it except flare

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>>144095516
Alright then here is the webm.

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>only 5kk on inventory, this is all the money I made until lv278 if you don't count teleport, repair and shit
>finally decides to max plate and cloth attribute for future deeps
>decides to level every skill attribute to at least 25~30+
>down to 150k
>realize I'll never have this money again because I'm a lazy fuck (and craft shit for myself, but don't even sell the ones I don't need)

Nth for reposting a vid with firewall in action. It's not that bad, you autists just love to overreact.

Mute the video because of the cancerous BGM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxNTJxAOyr0

>>144095143

C3 monk makes you invincible with iron skin and golden belly shield

>>144095629

Everytime I look at flare I just wonder why such a skill would ever exist.

I don't understand. What was their logic when adding this skill?

I'm wiz3 newbie and I'd like to make enough money for token till weekend ends, what's my best bet - elementalist, sorcerer or necro?
I seem to be chugging potions like crazy lately(in the parties) so prospects seem bleak...

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>>144095865
>golden belly shield

>>144095887
IMC can't balance for shit, they tried removing CD on Ice Blast and it became so overpowered they had to nerf it again. Remember this.

>>144095865
Anon just stop, I actually play Monk.

Did they fix party finder yet?

>>144095714
How the fuck have you hit 278 yet only have 5mil?
I have 2.2 mil minus token costs already at 160 and considering I have hardly grinded, I'd have alot more than 5mil at level 278.

>>144095887
You could say that about 90% of the skills in the game

>>144095640
You should remove the yell ticker up top.

>>144096023
Making money is 99% luck in this game, you won't get much unless you get lucky with drops. I'm team level 29 now and do my dungeons daily on every character, still have never gotten anything better than an Arde Dagger so my total net worth is maybe around 10m max. Meanwhile you see people get drops left and right that only have 1 character, this game doesn't really reward dedication, it's all luck of the draw.

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>>144095516
>>144095640
And here is the screen shot.
I changed my shinobi's name from Lewd to best

As for the request, please draw me in a cute way doing cute things with my clones.

>>144096015

Add krivis3 into the build and you can be invincible for 20 secs longer

>>144096083

Sure, but on paper some skills look and sound like they might be useful. Flare is just one of those skills you look at and wonder why would you ever take levels in it.

>>144096452
Doesn't it taunt nearby mobs?

Reminder that Taoist is being moved over from Wizard and being put into the Cleric tree and it will synergize extremely well with Monk as well as allowing you to have your own jiangshi.

>>144096014
https://youtu.be/MteDTdf0-Dg?t=7m2s

>>144096589
that make sense now

>>144096589
tfw no jiangshi gf

>>144096314
Just stop already.

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>>144096589
I miss my Jiangshi.

>>144096738
g/846704/301464b720/

>>144096530
It does and it's kinda handy at times.

>>144096756
My ant always wanted to become a Fletcher.

>>144096756
This assumes your gear is hot garbage, Dex pulls ahead quite a bit with proper equipment.

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>>144095865
>>144095959
Monk's secret technique consists in achieving a well tanned abdomen.

>>144096282
Hey there Shinobi bro. Can you make a webm of you soloing a boss using just auto attacks? I wanna see how it fares against using Sword3's double slash.

>>144096589
Does this mean Monk bullying will stop?

>>144096756
I still don't get this increase from Steady Aim 5. Doesn't the 1.1 modifier come after everything else?

>>144096948

>hot garbage
>Manamana, 2x sissel, Max pentamion, red veris gives, lvl6 green gems factors in

okay, I guess.

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>>144096904
Cute.

>>144097202
Even an unupgraded Isbality gets around 600 dmg, this is only assuming 398.

>>144096282
>>As for the request, please draw me in a cute way doing cute things with my clones.
Alright, seemingly as nobody else is responding I'll problably be done with your request in 4 ~ 24 hours depending on how much shit I have to do today.

>>144097185

Yeah, it's just a straight up increase to missile damage.

Also explains why it doesn't buff up melee attacks or poison dota.

>It's another "Paladins don't understand how magic circles work" episode

>people still think rank 8 is coming sometime in the next year, if at all

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>>144096756
Doing god's works, Anon. Are you going to do it for every other circle or you don't want to bother with it anymore?

Show everyone that Wugushi isn't bad if they get their ratios right, or even Sapper, Scout3, m-maybe Hunter or Rogue

>>144097335
Then why is the same after Steady Aim so low? Should be over 4k on the first one, for instance

Is the level 160 grindwall still there if you didn't save cards or has map exploration eased up the pain a little?

>It's another "Misinfo: Who to trust?" episode

>>144097374

>people still think that this game will last until next year.

>>144097065
I'll do it but not today, I used up all my 3 entries.
So basically you want me to AA a boss without using anything else like thrust or spear lunge?

>>144096589
How do you know what skills Taoists have?

>>144097295

Yeah but that's only against Dullahan, I don't know if that ever justifies +15ing an isbality.

I think literally only 5-10 on the server is ever going to get to that point. But if you want me to do it a +15 isbality with 3 lvl6 green gems sure.

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>When Shepherds are finally introduced, there will be only one type of dog
>There will never be a St Bernard with a barrel tied around its neck
>Never Ever

It hurts to live.

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>Get stuck on yet another infinite loading screen
>It eats up yet another dungeon run

>>144097295
>Isbality
>not S. Kracked shooter

>>144097326
>>144094964
I want one but I'm not sure I can fulfill your request. I don't know what "doing things outside of dungeons" means, all I have is group pictures of waiting for world boss spawns and etc. also no timestamps since all I have is old screenshots.

It's also not something I can post here.

>>144097650
You can re-enter.

>>144097182
The problem with monks lies between the desk & the chair.

NO MONKS will never stop being a thing.

>>144097650
Login, change channel, rejoin group, normally fixes it

>>144097472
Missions and 100% map exploration make it so you don't have to grind until past Rank 7.

>>144097542
It's against demon types, all the world bosses that your DPS is actually relevant on are demons. The other ones it's just a matter of whoever finds them first since they die before your gear and attributes even make a difference when you take into account your staggered arrival. Things other than World Bosses barely matter at all for stat distribution on Fletcher, you wouldn't bring one to those given the choice.

>Missions have no party find option like dungeons

Why

>>144097747
>>144097695
Im solo

>>144097903
They do though.

>>144097814


this is not true if you want to rush your character. sure, if you take 2 weeks to reach r6, fine, do these missions LOL

>>144097431

I'm looking into it, the formula is correct though but you're right, it should be higher.

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just usual stuff

>>144097919
Can you be my first friend?

>>144097935
They don't tho,

>>144096282
>nobody wants to fuck me, so i cloned myself

>>144097935
>>144098302
You are both correct, only the first mission takes off.

>>144097903
>>144097935
They do, it's just broken. I thought the dungeon party finder was also broken?

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>>144098141

>>144096282

why shinobi is so ugly

>>144097821
Not him, but as less of your physical attack is explained by your str, the smaller would be the difference between the damage yielded by full dex and full str, which would again make reliably critting a better choice

If you derivate the damage formula for dex and str however, I'm quite certain str would have a linear path while dex would give you diminishing returns.

>>144097685
Okay so, there's going to be a maplestory (special invite only) thing in korea which will be followed by your average soon-to-be MMO developer and stockholder meeting, where me and a few other people yearly babble about what you should invest your money into and what gamedevs should mostly do and not do, for the past few years it's been your usual
>koreans shrug every piece of information off and we end up just half-assing everything

Of course the recent years have been some of the flat out worst when it comes to MMOs with the flunks of games such as ArcheAge, Maplestory 2, Tree of Savior and the other korean MMOs which have fallen flat on their faces due to horrible shit mistakes they've made. Due to this we've been warned that we need to have a LOOOOOOONG discussion, and it turns out that we just don't have enough shit to fill the background eyecandy with.

Although a lot of these will provide reasons why the games blow so much ass though.

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>>144094964
Why such exact requirements?

>>144097659
Whats so good about the S Krack anyway?

>>144098660

>sword 2


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144098415
If the 1.1 is factored at the same time percentage modifiers and enhances are, then it's still wrong. It'd make a minor difference I guess, probably not enough to change the damage rank there.

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>>144097431

Ah shit nigga, I forgot to add flat bonus damage increase on the end. It's alright, everything just gets increased by 451 so it doesn't really affect the comparison.

Weapon being used is superior kracked shooter +5 with square enhance, I reverted it to a previous weapon from before because I'm dumb.

>>144094964
280 mission bosses in 16seconds I'll try harder next time.

>>144098684
Constancy.

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>>144098658
if you post an email or something i can send you a bunch of screenshots that may or may not be useful to you (probably not but it's worth a shot)

Wiz3 Link3
Warlock or Runecaster?

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>>144098916
>>144098886

For fucks sake posting through phone is a goddamn hassle.

The missing damage was that I forgot to add elemental damage and bonus damage on that end.

>>144099021
Featherfoot

>>144099110
ew

>>144099110
Good way to ruin a build.

>>144099021
>>144099110

I saw a 250+ Wiz3Thauma3Runecaster the other day
The horrors of leveling that shit

>>144098684
It's very affordable and better than Isbality whenever you aren't fighting a demon type. Ideally you want both Isbality for demon bosses and the Shooter for everything else. It's pretty retarded to calculate around the Kracked Shooter though given that the primary reason to min/max a Fletcher is world bosses and every one that your stats matters on (Dullahan and every Demon Lords aside from Rexipher) is a Demon type.

>>144099221
He's the definition of being futureproof

>>144099110
Feathefoot actually not that bad. Wish it get better at c2

>>144099170
>>144099186
Fucking misinfo agents

>>144099324
>runecaster
>futureproof

>>144097502
Probably just use Spear Lunge. I want to see if not going Sword3 would hurt my damage output. Thank you!

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>>144094964
Would it be fine if i killed a boss in 10 seconds? My guy is pretty under geared

kek
/warpto "teamname"

>It'll turn out that you can only have a single special class in your build, meaning taking one stops you from taking anything else introduced in the future
>Rune Caster is "futureproof"

>>144099021
runecaster 100% rune of destruction will deals hundreds of thousands on linked targets

>>144099712
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

>>144099603
What level are you? That's some pretty shit DPS for a Fletcher on a flying leather mob. I killed Harp around that pace at Fletcher 2 with full DEX, which isn't that amazing at that point yet since you don't have access to any good gear and your skills aren't maxed yet

>>144099793
Spike Shooter is also great on linked targets, do you see many sapper3 running around out there?

>>144099793
nope

>>144099108
So 2:1 str:dex seems like the most damage in most cases..

Could you recommend a fletcher build? Something without ranger 3 and is run to play?

>players won't explode like monsters do when you kill them
Feels bad, man.

>>144099898
yes, fuck off

>>144100053
>run to play
QS3 :^)

Swordfags are all retards.

>>144099793
Enjoy doing that every hundred seconds.

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>>144099836
I'm 240 and im still using an old Viper, my skills are pretty much at lvl 5-10

>>144099017
Would be rad, shoot them at [email protected]
>>144099603
>no name or level in the webbum
>that quality
anon

>>144100197
Please friend I finished up my money making alt now I need some DPS class for fun

>>144100174
Video of a runcaster doing more than 200k to one of those linked targets. Total damage to all targets doesn't count.

>>144100053

I'm doing a2 r1 scout1 fletcher3.

If your goal is pure single target in a closed environment, a2 r1 wugu1 is really strong.

>>144100235
Don't let him bully you!

You're just undergeared and other fletcher skills are usually 5~10 because of magic arrow prioritizing.

You could get a +5 superior wreech bow at least though.

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>>144098658
>Archage

Oh man it still stings, that shit couldve been so fun but the p2w and the stamina system killed it so bad

What is the most hated class? I want to make one so people harass me in dungeons.

>>144100610
sword2

Just got Barbarian 1. For my swordsman 2 tree, should I max out pain breaker or put the last 3 points into bash? I had 0 in bash.

>>144100610
Cata without Pelt with knockback ON

>>144100667
Are you running that ebin sword2barb2corsair2shinobi build?

>>144100610
monk
>>144100570
On the bright side, all these dead MMOs are just building a bridge with their corpses for better things to come.

>>144100569
Is raw damage much stronger than Elemental damage + cafrisun?

I might consider farming one of those

>>144100667
>sword2
Reroll

>>144099836
not who you're replying to but I'm about to go fletcher 1, any tips for skill leveling order? I assume 1st point in broadhead?

>>144100307
A2 > whatever you want for two ranks > Fletcher 3. Personally, I'm going A2 > hunter 2 > Fletcher 3 even though everyone says hunters are shit because I like having fun, just like on my _______monk.

>>144100760
>sword 2 barb 2 corsair 2 shinobi
what a horrible build.
The only viable shinobi builds are hoplite 2, fencer and highlander 3

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Honeybingo is lewd!

>>144100760
Yeah. Either that or corsair3

>>144100890
>shinobi
>viable

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/calculations-pyromancers-skill-damage/65090

Trust misinfo agents.

>>144100610
>anything wizard
not using lethargy. but spamming reflect shield on CD

>anything monk
because you exist

>pelt
just hold C. or pull the boss away from AoEs

>anything cleric
dont heal or buff

>>144100815
>Cafrisun
What are you, a qs, chaplain or a bot? You're using skills, son, skills that crit, no? Raw damage is preferable to elememe, race, size, armor or crit atk

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I'M MOST FUCKING SURE THAT HE'S GOING TO PICK FF AT R7

Does bonus elemental property attack not affect summons? Seems like only int and spr does

>>144100235
That's weird, not sure what you are doing wrong then aside from the Viper. Did you forget to buy your 2 handed bow attribute or something?
Like I said, I killed it at about that speed at around 200, before even getting to R7. I'm lv226 Archer2 Ranger1 Scout1 Fletcher3 now, all I do to kill her is prebuffing Steady Aim, a single Magic Arrow and then Barbed spam. Even if she puts her shield up as the first action I kill her before she finishes that move. I'm full DEX with an unupgraded Khasti Bow and fuck all for gear otherwise, still using Bearkaras&Zachariel Bracelets, Seven sins necklace, etc.

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>>144100570
oh shut up char

>>144100867

If they ever buff hunters for their skills to work on bosses this would easily be the best spec.

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>>144100610
Get annoying afk placement that goes unpunished up to the present day like statue blocking.

>>144101062
>What are you, a qs, chaplain or a bot?
im poor

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How the fuck do you do this? I want to stick my waifus into memos as well.

>>144100989
But what if monk heals and buffs?

>>144101247
That'll get you permabanned, unlike botting and RMT.

>>144100815
Raw dmg is better on anything that can crit, unless the amount of element damage is high enough to compensate for the lack of crit.

Things like sacrament or cafrisun aren't used by skill spam classes after 170+ or earlier.

>>144101284
still worse than literally any other class in the tree

>>144101284
still hated

>>144101247
i want to stick my memo into waifus

>>144101284
Shut up attentionwhore Koenig, nobody likes you.

>>144101284
Doesnt exist anon, monks are hardwired to become DPS as soon as they hit monk1

>>144101307

Not using sacrament is retarded, free 40 damage that also get amplificed by +%attribute from skills.

only scenario you aren't using it is in a full buff thauma 2 party with no daino

>>144100235

You're not under geared, you're under attributed. If you're using a bow you should easily be able to do 10k damage on harpeia with MA

>>144101359
from level 250 areas

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>>144101378

id rather koenig shitposting than t. misinfo agent shitposting

Is peltasta always prefered to Swordsman 2?

>>144098862
You mean HL3 Corsair 1 into Doppel.

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>>144101190
I'm pretty sure this counts as cyber bullying.

>>144100890
It's on tosbase as a recommended build.

>>144100958
There's no reason to get sword2 on that build, you could just go pelt there. I'm assuming the whole point of the build is to auto attack with DWA with the five clones, using Barbarian buffs to increase your AA damage. I've never played shinobi, but I'm quite certain sword3, hop2 doppel, fencer and even pelt would benefit shinobi much more on burst for the first three, and general utility for the other two

Anybody have Knight Leggings, Knight Greaves or Knight Gauntlets?

Or even the recipes?

>>144101498
theres very very few instances, mostly shinobi where going swordie 2 would be the way to go. But fact is pelt offers so much even outside of taunt that its a detriment not to take it.

>>144101549
>>144101190
Anon..

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>>144101498

always always always always

>>144101562
>he thinks shinobi clones are affected by dwa
>he thinks shinobi are affected by barb buffs
>HE THINKS THE BUILDS ON TOSBASE IS GOOD WHEN THE TOP RATED BUILD IS AN ARCHER 1>RANGER 3>FLETCHER 3 BUILD WHEN ARCHER 2 EXISTS
heh

>>144101549
Guy deserves it for being a server ass.

>>144101562
So should I just reroll?

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>>144101306

Yeah, sounds about right. I assume its just as simple as pasting some code in the memo box.

>>144101195
Blease

Just farm that shit, it's a white recipe

>where does it drop??
Idk lmao, solo those maps after over and you'll probably find a decent bow given enough time. That or farm money and buy from market, you shouldn't be this poor

>>144101284
Shit that has never happened: The post

>>144101809
It is actually just applying simple codes. And it'll still get you permabanned.

>>144101783
I hope STAFF_Max notices him and permanently unfucks him out of Orsha and the whole game in general.

>>144101806
Go sword 3 for the cookie cutter pvp sword 3 cata 3 build

>>144101587
I got the leggings from green infro holder shaman

Anyone else on Klai getting disgusting ping spikes or just me?

>>144101806
Yes.

>>144102054
How much for them?

>>144101378
But I'm not Koenig. Joke's on you friend.

>>144101351
Sadhu? I'm pretty sure Sadhu is worse than Monk.

>>144101364
Unjust hatred.

>>144101408
That's not true at all as I support all the time on my Monk more than dps when in a good group. If the group is bad I'll just carry it with my subpar dps.

>>144101980
It happens though, maybe if you played with Monks instead of being a bully you would know.

>>144101742
>>144101806

That's why I said "I'm assuming". If it's like that yeah, the other guy should reroll

>>144102046
He went barb already

>>144102071
>ping spikes
this happens on every server anon
EVERY

>>144102032
>implying shes not Staff_Maxine

>>144102032
The town is Orsha ch1, he's actually in Klai like the most of us.

>>144102116
quit getting baited anon, congrats on being one of the few monks that realize its a support class though, keep it up.
t. C2 monk

>>144102046
He's a barbarian already.

>>144102032
No, he'll get the Kirito treatment and become unbannable.

>>144100943
>Okay time to be a big responsible adult
>Do some paperwork
>Go for a jog
>Make some food
>Someone molested me while I was away

There's safety in being a NEET

Are there any strong or viable melee archer or mage builds?

>>144102152
>he went barb already
rip, I guess the best choice he has is to go barb 3 fencer 2 but without pelt hes not going to get into any lategame parties unless people are desperate

>>144102216
>all spells are dps
>"it's a support."
>"just because your first class 50 hours ago can use a heal, you're a support."

Ebin retard logic. I bet you'd call Swordsman and Archer that if it had one single spell that could heal people. It's like you people have never played an MMO in your life.

>>144102116
>Monks trying to tell others Sadhus are bad

This is some comedy gold right here.

Elemental damage can't crit? Why Venier is good if Fencer demands so much Dex?

The full STR fencer anon is there or he killed himself already?

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>>144102296
>Melee
>Archer
>Viable

>>144101783
You can still access the statue, even with Please AFKing there. Those fags just love to complain

>>144101458
It's just 40 dmg, doesn't matter much when you have 1000+ phys, 200+ ele, 500+ cdmg and god knows what else.

That buff slot could be used by so many more things and you can be cheap and save the daino for when you actually need it.

>>144101247
http://www.passion-gaming.net/forum/m/2404996/viewthread/26963029-adding-npc-art-to-your-crafted-goods/post/last

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>>144101783
>>144102032
If I get banned(I won't) and they don't fix the statue, I'll make another account, just to spite fags like you!

>>144102445
And I'll kick you out any party I have the lead of.

>>144102332
We already do, swordies are tanks cause it has taunt.

>>144102365
Elemental damage, among other things, comes after the crit modifier. The venue thing is intredasting though maybe someone should make an excel comparison for fencer, too?

>>144102216
I will never stop until Monks are loved.

>>144102349
I've rarely even seen Sadhu's since EA started but when I don't really see them doing anything support or damage wise. I know they used to be really strong but now I'm pretty sure they're worse than Monks.

>>144101806
Yes, going to be shit in both PvP and PvE, don't delete it though, it adds to team level for increased exp and also for daily talt runs.

>>144102445
i love your work. go on.
literally Hitler<3

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Noob anon here, are my stats okay or have I messed up? I assume I should go STR now right?

soo any good way to farm silver
farming varv skin is getting boring now

>>144100830
paging dr. fletcher for class doubts

Anyone know where I can get Superior Bandit Pants recipe?

Does nobody run the 160 dungeon?

>>144102672
You fucked up a lot and now you want to fuck up even more? Well I mean if that's what you want to do we can't stop you.

>>144102365
+2 all fencer skills is just amazing
+19 SPR for more skill spam
can enhance it for some more phys damage on top of the already high, non-resistable holy damage

>>144102672
Not really, just go 2:1 str/con (wugushi) or 1:1 str/con with 50ish con and you're okay.

>>144102787
It's bad. Pretty sure 145 will give you more exp.

>>144102672
>are my stats okay or have I messed up?
How can I fucking know if I don't know your build, nor what you want to do with it?

>>144102787
no

Does 217 get many full runs?

>>144102649
Monks will never be loved until their able to asura strike again, anon

>>144101549
and what do you suggest? report him?
why not doxx him and ruin his life instead?

>>144100610
Cleric Priest Bokor 2 Monk 3
Make sure to overwrite your party's blessing with an unattributed level 5 Blessing.
Waste their buff slot with Monstrance.
Keep Resurrection at level 1 and try to cast it in combat whenever a party member dies.
Max all zombie related skills, make sure to cast Heal on top of them. If there are other Clerics in the party, Bwa Kayiman over their heals.
Remember to use spread mobs using your Monk skills.

>>144102672
it's okay anon put more dex and con

>>144102445
Just wanna let you know I fucking hate[/ spoiler] you.

Is it better to go 2:1:1 str con dex or 3:1 str con for a swordsman into dragoon?

>>144101783
>being a server ass

Found the plebbitor.

>>144102815
>non-resistable
That's wrong though

>join country's Facebook group
>see all these whales buying and selling rare equipments for literally hundreds of dollars
>short on cash IRL
>the temptation to be an RMT seller is real

I know for sure that RMT buyers don't get punished at all in this game but RMT sellers do. Should I risk it?

>>144102706
Barbed. Save 5 points for MA at c2.

>>144102672
If you're doing the /tosg/ approved scout fletcher, go 1:1. 40 con is ok, more if you feel you need it.

>>144102520
Wow, it's nothing!

>>144102630

That would be nice.

Venier x Catacombs Rapier x Duelist (for bosses/large monsters).

Venier is overall good because of the +19 spr and holy damage, but the physical attack itself is very low.

Fencer demands nearly full dex builds to enjoy their evasion skills and tanking capabilities, but they multihit so much that I though STR cold be good, but then we had that str fencer anon...

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Supah dupah noice stuff!

>>144102787
You could do party search for hours and never get one.
The dungeon is that fucking horrible.

>>144102705
learn to read the market's flow and understand supply+demand
get ahead of the curve (this is only available to f2p)
make a jew class (templar is included in this)
make an afk bee farmer
make a corsair with 15 flag/party with a corsair with 15 flag
corpse hands
gimmick rewards
getting a scout 3 friend and getting all the hidden drops like fox mask

>>144102896
Maybe they'll replace Golden Bell or give them another skill. Monk has THE WORST C3 in the entire game.

>>144102972
sorry my bad,

non-resistable by 95% of all things PvE

why anyone would make a fencer for PvP is beyond me though

>>144103006
>staff informs what every sane person already knew all along
Well, then.

>>144102365
>full str fencer
Are you seriously saying someone was retarded enough to do this?
Jesus christ if I was the guy I'd kill myself too

>>144103026
>Worst C3
>not falconer2 or hunter3
Then again, did monk actually get anything for C3? Golden bell was originally a C2 skill if memory serves.

>>144103006
P.S.: copied from the forum

>>144102924
>Monstrance
>Waste

t. Misinfo agent

>>144102987
thanks doctor, the pacient is all right now

>>144103006
Sweet.
Pair that with an undetectable macro that changes channels or logs off for a while when some fuckboi uses ice wall near you and you're golden.

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>>144102904
Calm down, Mr. 4chan Hacker.

>no lag at all
>enter dungeon
>lag
>disconnected immediately
>wasted a run
fuck this gay game

how do people get back in? enter doesn't work and search just makes me look for another party.

>>144103026
>Monk has THE WORST C3 in the entire game.
That's not Penalty Reduction.
God, monks are so entitled.

>>144103228
>wizards will love wasting a buff slot for +3 DEX
Good post.

>>144102387
It's still annoying. Especially for newbies starting in Orsha and don't know stuff. Might be one reason Orsha channel 1 isn't as packed as other town's channel 1. He's also indirectly/directly being a dick to /tosg/ people opening shop there.

>>144103184
>Falconer2
>circle 3

Anon?

>>144103005
I could try it, but I'm on my phone till Friday/Saturday and I'd need to factor in shit like modifiers from preparation and where are they added on the damage formula.

>>144102706
>>144100830
Sorry, was taking a shower.
Get 1 in Barbed, Broad, and Bodkin first, then Crossfire if you like. Max Barbed Arrow then save your points for C2. When you hit C2 max Magic Arrow and Barbed Arrow, then save your points again. When you hit C3 you max Magic Arrow and Barbed Arrow again straight away, then can dump the left over points in either Broadhead or Crossfire depending on preference. Crossfire if you want to feel slightly less useless on AoE grinding without a Linker, Broadhead for more single target damage.

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>>144103354
>Teleport please
>became your own ingame server meme

>>144100280
sent ;)

>>144103405
Who the fuck cares about a shitty wizard? Let the real men, Archers, do the big boy dps with monstrance. Also fuck off with your reflect shield already you stupid cunt it doesn't do anything.

>>144103462
Yeah i realised that after i hit post. Im willing to bet C3 will be shit though looking at what they got for C2!

>>144102978
yeah sure go ahead worst thing that can happen is a 30 day ban

>>144101306
Has anyone even gotten banned for memo pictures?

All ive seen is that one guy with bold messages

>>144103660
I got banned for public ERP with Aisa if that counts.

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>>144103660
I havent been banned and i've been selling bulletshooters with gabija/kamiya in them.

>>144103562
thanks. How bad is the economy drain? I'm setting up a pardoner but it'll take some time to be useful.

>>144103438
>It's still annoying.
It is. The game is already full of retardedly painful glitches you constantly have to deal with and now you have fucktards adding even more pain to this broken game.

It was funny the first time. It really was. But now at this point he's nothing but a huge cunt.

>>144103438
>>144103861
It's too late to stop doing it.

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>>144103814
>Grita

Good taste

>>144103603
Oh yeah no these are actually all really good
whats your draw request, anon?

>>144103861
I agree though the fucker obviously think differently.

>>144103829
It's really not bad. Your normal arrows cost around 3 silver per and Magic Arrow is like 33 or something. You will never just bleed money, even killing bosses that take a decent amount of shots you make much more than what you spend.

>>144103495

Don't need to hurry, anon.

Also, I'm most sure Venier beats everything because of the +2 skills, that means +138 atk for Lunge, +26 atk to Sept Etoiles and etc...

And besides not criting, the holy damage is amplificed by attributes and not necessarily demands a Crit unlike Cata Rapier +critical attack bonus. The +aoe ratio from catacombs is nice thou


But the Duelist vs bosses is the most interesting scenario imo.

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>>144102445
I can't hate you. I mean this should have encouraged IMC to make the entire statue an interactable object instead of this tiny, tiny part of it with no collision that can be blocked by players standing on it. It's like a cute form of protest.

>>144103954
I'll send it to you in an email.

>>144103438
>He's also indirectly/directly being a dick to /tosg/ people opening shop there.
no shit he's from discord

Requesting the Swordie /tosg/ guide, I don't want to fail my comrades.

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>>144103354
>doesn't like making justice using unconventional methods
i bet you call the police if you get robbed instead of fucking up the robber
please go back to real life and never come back

>>144103980
Thanks, I'm struggling to break the 300k barrier so I was worried

>>144102672

You're fine, cap out at 157 dex if you ever plan to get bis in gear

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>>144094531
How is Energy Blast damage calculated? It's still STR/CON/INT? what's the damage formula?

I know monk's shit but i'm already sold on the class, i'm going Cleric2>Diev2>Monk3 or maybe diev3>monk2 (and get monk3 when a new rank is unlocked).

I wanna know the damage formula of EB because of INT and carve owl, but i'm probably going str/con/dex anyways.

My hope is that Monk is useful on PvP, because it's already underwhelming in PvE, but at least i can somewhat support on parties with cleric2. I don't know for certain the skill build but i can always reset for this. I do get paranoid when it comes down to stats, though, specially the CON value - since i don't have any experience in PvP and don't know the "sweet spot" for the stat.

Highlander or Barbarian for a Fencer?

>>144104215
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/40706
It's physical. It's STR/Patk based.

>>144104265
barb

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjRFaHCVkA

>>144104110
>Pelt1
ur a "tank" now

that is all.

>>144104265
highlander it's what all the ktos fencer pros use

>>144104331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0B5tgr9WfE

>>144103562
Barbed scales the worst out of fletcher skills. I'd probably leave it somewhere between 5~10.

Broadhead gets damage and more tics, while crossfire gets damage and a multiplier.

>>144104265
Barbarian for cookie cutter damage build. Highlander for pseudo support through debuffs.

>>144104376
>There are swordies who fail at even that

>>144099108
are these invested points?

>>144104265
barb, highlander not worth it

just go doppel or dragoon if you want highlander

>>144104331
Why are we stuck with Dirty Minds on dungeons when we have shit like Angelus or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhm8gJvDxjU

>>144104418

ktos pros have infinite memelyner, we don't.

we use flanconade instead

>>144104418
Highlander is what all ktos pros use.

>>144104215
if you're aiming for PVP youll want atleast 70-100 CON, high DEX to hit with something other than EB, though im not sure if EB can miss or not.

>>144104497
You play Fletcher for bossing, that is its one and only real purpose. Broadhead gets overwritten instantly as soon as there is a 2nd Fletcher present, it's nigh on unusable for DPS contribution. You should still get it and put some points in to at least get some credit out of overwriting other people's, but generally speaking it's not that great. Crossfire's burn doesn't work on bosses, it's a pure mobbing skill, ie worthless for the one thing your class has going for it. You can still pick it up and put some left over points in it, but not at the cost of your core skills.
Barbed is absolutely amazing, if you don't max it you are retarded.

>>144104376
But I want to solo play. And I have some e-friends who accept my snowflake builds in case everything goes wrong.

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I wish I had the guts to pull off shit.

Fucking pvp arenas when?

This is maybe retarded question, but you're free to level whatever skills point left in tos planner in pastebin or should you left it as it is?

>>144104282
At iCBT2 people thought it was STR/CON/INT but i never saw any confirmation or refutation of it.

>>144104745
EB is physical, so i guess it can miss.

>>144104951
Why do you think pelt is bad for solo play?

>>144105096
free to level as you want

>>144105016
your theory is retarded, arena has its own items and 125 spr is 25% resist

>>144105016

PvP minigame arena has been in ktos for a long while.

That build is pointless for pvp, especially in the arena.

CC resist from spr is a joke, it only blocks minor forms of cc and doesn't do anything against the major ones (which are the ones pvp wizards etc revolve around).

Can you tell me what are the quest items that are worth keeping? From what I've read/seen, bearkaras and zachariel bracelets are good, and so are tomb gloves and saphie. What about rokas chest equips?
While lurking I've read about some other anons that sold those items, maybe we could add the list to the pastebin in the OP.

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Who is your cutest character?
boys are allowed

>>144105116
Id assume it could, but its also holy. And i havent personally seen it miss. Still, youll want o be able to land one inch punch/palm strike as well as double punch. So DEX is vital

Does IMC ever answer support tickets?

>>144105341
I want to impregnate that swordslut.

>>144105323

Besides gravity pole, hook and raise, which cc's are you talking about?

freeze, stun, sleep, all get resisted.

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>all chars are in the same guild
>can't reroll another templar to make a sub-guild purely for dilgele farming
>can't create an alt to join some guild and surprise them by revealing I'm a high level leader from another guild
>can't create an alt to go all Kirito and lead a relatively normal life

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>>144105403
I think you already know the answer to that question anon

>>144105315
>125 spr is 25% resist
Is this true?

>>144105325
Rokas Robe is BiS all the way until Lolopanther and the +10 stat necklaces are good until you get Max Peta/Animus. Those and the bracelets you mentioned are the primary ones worth keeping

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>>144105469
Fuck this game

>>144105446

Freeze: Spammed by multihit spells in pvp
Stun: Spammed by swords with restrain + multihit skills
Hook: Used by the same build above

Then there's the main problem.

Complete list of wizard pvp builds:

1.) 3cryo3kino

>>144105403
I got falsely banned for botting before and they were pretty quick to reply to me every time I harassed them via email, usually within the day. Took 3 weeks of constant back and forth to get unbanned though

>>144105376
Speaking of One inch punch/Palm strike, how's the optimal build for a monk? The class has so many options, i don't know what to definitely max aside from double punch/EB. I don't know about the other skills such as finger flick, one inch punch and palm strike.

Falconer a must for Cannoneer? Is Cannoneer even good or is that just misinfo agents at work?

>>144105752
Im waiting for 2 days now

>>144105937
I never had to wait that long, that sucks. Did you get banned too?

>>144105431
According to that pic the Popolion did it first

>>144104882
It's still one of the best well rounded pve classes for archers and doesn't have weapon swap lag. You can play it just fine without giving a shit about bosses, and no one will want you on the grind to 280 if all you can do is spam ST.

>>144105898
fletcher 3 is better for single target but outside that canooner with circling is top tier in everything else pve

>>144105341
My boy swordsman. He is even more handsome than the girl character I made yesterday!

>>144105528

You're supposed to take the plate rokas, not the robe.

You need 3x plate armor slotted, and you can get way better gloves for any build, magical or physical, compared to the robe for your one non-plate slot.

>You can block Ironbaum's flamethrower
>It's just a multi-hitting physical fire attack and not remotely magical
Whose dumb idea was this?

>>144106112
There is loads of better options for plate body pieces, but not a single one aside from Lolopanther that offers you more DPS if you're a mage than the Robe.
You swap around depending on what content you do, if I'm trying to world boss or do dungeon rushes on my shitty warlock you really really don't need the extra HP from Plate gear and swap back to Rokas Robe and Roxona Pants for the extra DPS

>>144105802
Well, that's a fun one depending on if we get those kToS changes since as of now PS/HK have no-knockback attributes, which could actually make them useful. Still, ideally it goes;
max EB
max Double
max 1 inch
1 in flick/hk/ps for their debuffs(in kToS flick gives a 50% strike debuff)
this gives you 38/45 points leftover. golden bell is worth maybe 1 point at best, Iron skin is debateable. Youd be best off putting the remaining points in either skin or flick since flicks damage isnt bad and its one of the few ranged moves monk has, plus its damage isnt too bad.

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Who wants to kiss!

Are shinobis any good in this game? I've only heard largely negative things about them.

>>144105937
Just be patient, boss.

>>144106147
Somewhere near the end of iCBT2 or start of kOBT, they replaced most boss attacks to physical. Like Mineloader and Harpeia.
Basically Priest3 and Pelt buff.

>>144105016
125 SPR ins't 50% resist for sure

>>144105315
Where did you get 25% from? Doesn't resist from SPR scale with level as well

>>144106368
Shinobi are like a mediocre penis, it does one big splurt of damage and then sit there limp for the minute

>>144106346

mornin'

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>Klai server on top of list now

>>144106487
Is that really a mediocre penis? That sounds like premature ejaculation.

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>>144105341
pinku rabbito desu~
( )_( )
(='.'=)

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Well i guess this is an improvement, too bad its so expensive to get it to +5

>>144106368
The "know your swords" image describes them perfectly.
They have a single gimmick and nothing else besides that.
This is mainly due to absolutely horrendous clone ai as well as you losing all evasion+taking 5x damage when clones are out.

The only use of memenobis right now are bossing and even than any teleport troller at a wb can troll you out of your cube

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>>144106579
qtie

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>>144106368
Buggy and only good as burst DPS on boss
Alos 40h of camping to get a stupid flower required to actually become a Shinobi

>>144106491
Good morning! I had a dream where I went to Japan and they had these big carts full of stuffed animals and I really wanted one but couldn't afford them!

>>144106596

The best way to deal high dot damage is to cast all your dots with superior wreech and then swap to a viper or manamana.

Your dots should be doing 300-400 more damage on average.