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>Fates FAQ (Please read before asking dumb questions)
http://pastebin.com/ivUbamyy

>Linkbin
http://pastebin.com/bufdd9wu

>/feg/ Castle Addresses
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ONUbYoZ68OjfXSLVCHF74XUol1ajWKSJvNqFx25PoE/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

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>>143983468
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Subtle Hisame thread!
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Cutest family
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I want to do erotic things with this girl!
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Why is Kaze so handsome?
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>>144013528
Her voice turns me on.
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This is my daughter. Shes so cute!
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>>144013749
No, that's MY daughter!
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>>144014015
You are MY child now!
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>>144012840
You can also make Scarlet the mother of Chad Thundercock.
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Always looking for more Ninja Masks.
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Look at this cute tsunwife.
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>>144014473
Can it make Scarlet survive Revelation?
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>>144014498
She STINKS!
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I thought Azura's mom is an evil bitch but she's apparently a good person? fucked up
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>>144014498
She's shit
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>>144014628
Appearances can be deceiving.
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>>144014493
Post those NA castle cards.

I need your BP, VP, and accessories that aren't Bath Towels. Don't forget to leave feedback. Come buy a skill or something. Maybe you'll get a nice Bond Unit.
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why are all the hoshidans so robotic in their love confessions?

>I love you
>Nice, me too.
>Okay, cool.
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>>144014628
It's ashamed Azura doesn't have her body.
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>>144014874
Their Japanese.
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>>144013310
Why the long face, Hisame?
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>>144014971
>Can't NTR water with her superior milf mom
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I want to BULLY Kana and make her cry!
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I like Hana
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Treasure buddies!
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>>144014874
They're safe. Compare that to characters like Effie and Anna who had their confessions made into jokes, or Camilla who's confession is designed to make you think you fucked up.
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>>144015104
Kana is cute! Why would you do such a thing!

Someone put this papa behind bars!
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:^)
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>>144014874
They're Japanese.
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What would be the most effective way to bully Severa without referencing her mother in some way?
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>>144013528
fucking cuck
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>>144015104
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Lancers a best.
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>>144013202
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>>144015075
it hurts
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>>144015223
I want to tell her she has ugly smelly feets and to put some shoes on because she's making me ashamed to be her father!
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>>144015376
big dumb hunk who cares

i dont care
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>>144015308
>hating on sex robots
Fucking retard Koreans.
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>>144015245
>Corrin, what the fuck?
>What? She gave me a letter saying we weren't related.
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>>144014528
I wanted to make a script edit based on whether Scarlett was married to Ryoma or not but I couldn't get the conditional event to work and it always returned true, it always said Ryoma was married to Scarlet even it wasn't true, so I said fuck it and just gave up.
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>>144014859
>it's a "Supreme Alex shilling" episode
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>>144015485
>queen flora
>Flora marry
Done and done
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>>144015308
>>144014973

Is it just the Hoshidan writing? I mean, Silas's proposals are pretty cute and interesting. Like that Hinoka or Sakura S rank.
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>>144015376
>>144015521

This needs to be resolved already. Shiro x Siegbert smut when?
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Cumming in Severa's tight asshole
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>>144015740

What about her tight teen pussy?
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>>144015735
Siegbert is ugly, nor thanks.
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>>144015325
Pull the twintails.
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>>144015740
>"tight"
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>>144015485
>anon literally Corrin
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>>144015831
That's Lucina's memehole
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>>144015727
No, none of the nohr ones are interesting either.
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>>144015740
>spilling your cum outside of her womb
Heretic, may you burn in hell
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>>144015521
Shut up you fugly nerd.
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>>144016193
>Allowing Severa to breed
>Not simply using her as a fucktoy before discarding her
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>>144015895
What if he got magically turned into a girl?
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>>144016303
>not raising a happy family with her
Bully.
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>>144016410
Then I'd fuck him. I'm still goddamned mad that none of the Royal bros carry females in their semen.
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>Marry Oboro, have Kana
>Aqua marries Takumi, has Kiragi
>Kana gets with Kiragi

This makes me laugh for some reason
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>>144016509
>Kiragi has pointy ears
>Kana has normal ears and Takumi's hair color
just
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>>144016509
Kiragi is shit. He doesn't deserve Kana. Fuck off.
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>>144016670
Percy pls go.
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>>144016670
Sounds like we've got a PERCYPAL in here, boys...
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>>144016670
Go away Percy"""pal"""
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Name a bigger cuck than me.
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So /feg/, which character did you give the joys of mother/fatherhood? Did you stay faithful to him/her all routes?
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>>144016670
Percy's support with Kana isn't even THAT romantic my dude.
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>>144016920
caeldori cucks
oboro cucks
camilla cucks
kagerou cucks
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>>144016668

>pregnant Takumi

Now I'm terrified.
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>>144016976
>faithful
>to an imaginary character made up of random bits in a video game
fag
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>>144016998
>no flora

Wonder who's behind this post
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>>144016998
>caeldori cucks

Nice meme, but even though she looks like her she isn't literally Cordelia. The rest of those girls you can make an argument for at least.
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Percy is obviously Kana's dad.

So much /ss/ potential
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>>144017256
Percy is stinky stinky with shota stink.
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Reminder that Corrin cucks his spouse for Forrest.
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>>144016998
t. Floracuck
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>>144017256
>Percy is obviously Kana's dad.
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>>144017234
>tumblr
yeah okay caeldori cuck
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>>144015376
Best boy desu
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>flora cucks you because of le epic memes

She explicitly says that she loves you when you marry her.
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>>144017256

Is Midori Kana's mom then?
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W I F E
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>>144017732
That would be a valid argument if she wasn't a proven liar
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>>144017732
>le epic memes
You mean the DLC conversation which happens even if she's married.
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hi
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>>144017732
Forget it mate, it's /feg/town
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>>144017331
>>144017472

don't hate
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>>144017665
best pairing
really wished hunk was best boy among the 2nd gens so he'd go with her into FE15 instead of Forrest
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How would you describe the type of people who waifu flora?
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>>144018306
people who want all the kids in nohr but don't want to marry the kids
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>Azurafags attacking flora again

Pathetic
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Felicia is the cutest! Stroking her soft hair! Kissing her cheek! Holding her hand! Going everywhere together! Falling asleep in each others arms! She means everything to me! She is all i could ever want! I love Felicia!
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>>144018416
Noice

This from Pixiv/Twitter?
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>>144018416
I need the Ike and Micaiah cards.
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>>144017732
Don't even try it here, it's all just shitposting fuel. This is the only place that dwells on it
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>>144018510
What is with Florafags and their bizarre victim complex? Calm down. None of us will even be talking about this thirty minutes from now.
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>>144018305
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>>144018306
People who want a damaged waifu to protect and help work through her problems
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>>144017803
Why is she telling me to be quiet?
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>>144018606
This, /feg/ loves cuck headcannons for some reason so they try to force every little thing.
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>>144018306
People who like Flora
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>>144018510
The only solution is to end all Waterfags and Icefags.
Only then will we have peace.
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So /feg/ imagine yourselves on your merry way, being an online hacking scum with 5 forged Omega Yatos on your MU, then you encounter this guy online, who has Mikoto, Sumeragi, Garon, Arete and Human Lilith, and anytime you attack any one of them, this song plays and they proceed to murder you with 100% Astra/Crit activation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpM1t1XyW1I
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How would you describe the type of people who aren't French and marry Beruka?
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>>144017803
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>playing Revelation 11
>Orochi goes after a Ninja with a 75% hit rate to kill him
>he can easily double and kill her
Damn, chick is crazy.
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>>144018780
>The only solution is to end all waifufags

I agree.
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Doing a Mamui run in Conquest, dubs decides my wife
>inb4 Niles
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>>144018891

I'd rather end humanity.
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>>144018897
Selena
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What is Felicia even good for? I ended up making her a Hero for Sol but her Str and Def are both pathetic.
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>>144018837

They have great taste I think
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>people hating on flora because she actually has some depth to her unlike most waifus
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>>144019078
Not cucking you like her inferior sister
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>>144018897
>>144019069
>dubs
>on /vg/
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>>144019078
She has better Mag than Str, make her a Strategist or give her the Flame Shuriken.
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>>144019078
Being a Strategist.
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>>144018897
There's only one maiden pure enough for Mamui anon - Azura.
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>>144018897
>dubs

Olseli
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>>144018897
Kana
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>>144018897
Marry Flora to spite >>144019236
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What cute couple things do Azura and Arthur do together?
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>>144019151
The depth of a bowl of fruity pebbles desu.
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It's easy to forget, but Flora and Felicia have been locked up for nearly as long as Corn has been. They're not much more worldly than Corn and they're close in age. Flora's just an emotionally unstable teenager at her core, despite the airs she puts on. Cut her some slack.
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>>144018897
Azura of course!
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>>144019326
You mean that tirade that was just one person responding to himself in a chain of shitposts until he got banned and all of his dirty work was exposed?
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>>144019415
She's not that deep dude.
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What's an interesting build for Lunatic Birthright Corrin if I don't want to go full Swordmaster?
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Post yfw you will never be a Floracuck
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>>144019326
uh oh
h
o
h

#silencedbymods
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>>144014859
Shilling my castle on /feg/!
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>>144019560
>Azurafag buttblasted that his shitfu has the personality of a dead fish
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>>144019573
it's Birthright, do whatever you want
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>>144019415
>that moment she drops her mask for a second and becomes all giddy and excited when you propose
Cute
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>>144019647

Go away Azura.
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>>144019326
Floracucks BTFO by mods
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Remember to report and ignore falseflaggers
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>>144019647
Please stop trying to fuck your cousin, Azura
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>>144019753
She's never going away. She's your other half after all.
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>>144019694
>only Azurafags can dislike Flora

Beautiful complex there. There are more than enough reasons to dislike her as a character, just as there as enough reasons to dislike any character without being affiliated with some waifufag faction.
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>>144019694
>le azurafag boogeyman

Literally doesn't exist my dude.
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>>144019694
>Floracucks un-ironically believe that Flora has more depth than Azura
Those delusions could be dangerous anon - you should get yourself checked out.
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AHHHHHHHHH, HELP ME. MY SWORD HAND HUNGERS. MY BLOOD IS ACHING AGAIN. AHHHHHHHHH.
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>>144019694
Calm down. No one even brought Azura up in that reply chain. That was all you. Talk about sour grapes.
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>>144019943
That's called a boner Odin
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>>144019885
>an azurafag saying this when watercucks have been accusing anyone shitting on azura of being florafags
are you literally retarded
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>>144019878

Not if I challenge my Fates.
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>>144019926
Maybe if the writers intended Flora to be a deep and interesting character, she would have gotten more screentime and would actually do things besides spending all her time trying to hop on Joker's dick before killing herself
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Should Rinkah become a Oni chieftain or a Master Ninja?
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>>144020081
I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Flora is not that deep a character. I can be an Azurafag, a Charlottefag, a Mozufag, a Jokerfag, and I would still think that.

It's not all black and white and conspiracies. Take off the damn goggles.
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>>144013528
>skinship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MglCXwzC-RQ
I don't know what to think about her moon voice.
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>>144020152
Bench Chieftain
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>>144020153
>not fates
No one cares gramps.
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>>144018897
Felicia
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>>144019317
Every time Arthur does something helpful, Azura goes "My Hero!" to get him in a good mood.
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Do Azura and Flora even interact once in the story? In any route? Not even one exchange? They dont have supports or DLC convos so where does this falseflag rivalry even stem from?
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>>144020081
>watercucks
Honestly anon I'm not even an Azura-fag but you're stretching pretty far here.

If anything she's the anti-cuck option as even if she's married to another guy you still get the whole "let me see you smile one last time" scene in Birthright and it's equivalents in CQ / Rev.

I know it's disappointing that Flora just straight-up comes out and declares her love for your asshat butler but that's just the way it is.
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>>144020152
Give her berserker
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>>144020326
I care, Elincia is the best and cutest.
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>>144020068
I'm Owain
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Is anyone surprised that Azurafags are shitposting again?
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>>144020387
Same place the Percy and Kiragi "rivalry" came from, memes and falseflags.
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>>144020142
WAIT A MINUTE

HOLD IT RIGHT THERE

I SMELL A RAT

I recognize those filenames.

You were shitposting against Azura and Azurafags last night, and now you're falseflagging in support of them?

What's your game friend?
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>>144015735
There's already a bunch on AO3. Seek it out at your own risk.
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Why can't Azurafags be comfy and humble like Flora fans?
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>>144020387
From people trying to stir shit and create bullshit drama because it's not feg if we're not acting like monkeys throwing shit at each other.
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>>144018837
I'd describe them as people, just people

>>144018897
No dubs on /vg/ only Trips or higher
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>>144018897
Felicia
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This is a Vallite Queen.
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>>144020670
>I recognize those filenames.

The generic filenames certain sites generate after images are uploaded to them?
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>>144020142
The crowning jewel of that scene is the localized translation where Jakob drops the bomb of "what a waste of life" - like it's just some random unfortunate suicide instead of the tragic death of one of his life-long companions in service who has loved him all her life.

10/10 Jakob, I'm surprised he didn't lament her ruining her perfectly good clothes by incinerating herself.
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>>144020861

She's cute but she's not my queen.
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>>144020670
>falseflaggers responding to themselves and playing both sides
Whoa
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>>144020898
seriously though, what the fuck. how's the original because that just makes like Jakob gives no shits
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>>144020516
>EAT SHIT PUSSY
>B-but Elincia

Nevar forget
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>>144020885
That may be, but while /feg/ is dumb, very few people are dumb and socially active enough to save their cache of images from none other than facebook
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>>144021102
I just grabbed it from a google image search desu
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Honestly Azura is a much better waifu than Flora.
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>Put Effie to block a choke point
>Big line of enemies ready to bang their heads against her
>Enemy archer comes up and shoots her
>Barely takes a scratch
>Archer had Lunge and switches spots with her
>The archer had lunge
>the entire enemy army breaks in and smack my shit

how the fuck does that even make sense
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>>144021348
Being the 3nd worst waifu instead of the worst is not much better
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>>144021036
The original is something along the lines of "That fool / idiot - why did she have to choose that / make that choice..."

Still a little vague, but comes off infinitely less callous than the localisation and at least gives a 'hint' of him struggling a bit with her death.
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>>144021192
HUZZAH, which means you didn't even have the image on-hand in your folders to begin with. You are a shitposter who likely hit up google images within minutes to search for a quickie image, any image, to masquerade yourself while playing sides.

So what's the next step of your master plan?
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>>144021469
cute hick
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why is cordelia so sad?
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>>144020861
Get the FUCK back in the throne room and let me handle the kingdom!
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>>144021102
Who's your favorite recruitable boss in Fates? I'm very fond of Kumagera. He reminds me of Mustafa in some ways.
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>>144021595
e x p o s e d
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>>144021653
Because her daughter is an angry lesbian
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>>144021469
i wanna cum in hick
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>>144021553
>Conveniently ignores the famitsu poll where Azura rates #1 most married character
I'm disappointed anon.
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>>144021653
Because she can't S-rank Chrom, even though she loves him.
But her best friend(Sumnia) can S-rank Chrom tho
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>>144021825
An angry lesbian with a repressed lust for her own mother.
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This is an ISIS Zoroark.
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>>144021929
You do know you're just setting yourself up for the standard "Japan has shit taste" reply right?
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>>144021929
uh oh

I hear distant foghorns calling for a typhoon of official 5th place bullying, you're really stoking the flames now my chum
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>>144018952
Fuck off Zephiel.
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>>144022139
Top 5 is too good for a Zoroark
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>>144022139

What does she actually look like under her disguise then?
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Is Awakening more fun with or without Second Seals and Pair Up?
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>Elise is the best imouto guys
top lel
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>>144022139
At any rate, shitposter, thanks for the HQ backgroundless version.
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>>144022284
The same but with black hair.
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>>144022270
Azura was top 5 of 35 women
Zoroark was top 17 of 156 5th Gen pokemon
Its about the same.
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>>144022573
what is she trying to do
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>>144022173
>>144022183
>Game is designed primarily for a JP audience - our official translation team is widely regarded as being staffed by literal chimps

Even the localisation couldn't turn down how implied Corrin/Azura is anons, did you really expect some degenerate shit-posters to be able to defy DESTINY.
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>>144022664
NTR you
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Why is it always Pokemon with you chumps? We have a whole board for you to discuss your silly analogies, and you just know the spic is going to jump in with his two cents if you keep yapping on about it
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>>144015245
Hot as fuck. Imagine all the stepsiblings seething in rage.
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>>144022536
>5/35 = 0.14285714285
>17/156 = 0.10897435897
It's actually worse.
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>>144021551
Conquest Lunatic? Everyone has Lunge, Inevitable End, and Staff Savant. Get used to it.
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>>144015371
>Anti-bully
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>>144022887
There really is no room for error when it comes to these things, is there? It's either first or fuck off.

Or flop.
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>>144022392
>those stats that late in a promoted class
Fuck off, shitposter. Sakura is actually good.
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>>144021917
I want to make love to that cute hick
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>>144022786
Takumi might actually try to kill Corrin out of jealousy.
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>>144023058
>just noticed the fan translation calls Shrine Maiden "Priestess"
Well that's confusing. She's unpromoted, I'm saying Sakura is based.
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Gotta get the sword of Seals.
Doin my first blind(No-Reset) Fe6 run.

R8 my Team.
Roy(A-support with Lillina)
Lillina(why is she so OP?)
Oujay(Dieck got shit Level ups and Oujay got rng blessed as fuck. Also i gave him the boots)
Lalum(A-support with Oujay)
Saul(What a Op Cleric. Also got rng blessed, a-support with Dorothy)
Dorothy(Shitwolt got rng fucked)
Sue( Also one of my MVPs)
Lance & Allan (Happy Christmas, also a-support with each other)
Merlinus
Miredy/Miledy( Holy fuck. I'm only playing normal mode, but she got also blessed)

Graveyard: Lot, Tate

Bench: Thany(fuck you. I invested a dracoshield and a angelic robe, but you still suck)
The Rest.
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Alright anons I'm still a little salty that my M!Corrin doesn't have access to Awakening, help me round out a meme-tastic build to ease my suffering.

Currently I've got him penciled down as:
- Supportive
- Nohrian Trust
- Hoshidan Unity
- Dragon Fang
- Draconic Hex
- ???

But any slot is open for swapping if something MIN/MAX enough is offered.
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>>144018897
Midori
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>>144022392

>no defense

It's shit.
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Woah, woah, woah.
Does Femui get no unique supports?
Have I been played like a damn fiddle?
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>>144022536
>>144022887
http://blog.livedoor.jp/shellspider/archives/696302.html

That poll only recorded the top 30 for gen V. Zoro was 17th out of 30, recalculate those numbers.

And it's arguably not accurate anymore, because a newer popularity poll was released just recently and Zoroark completely dropped out nowhere to be seen.

But most of all: >>>/vp/
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>>144023207
Weird. What's Priestess then?
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>>144023385
>Not "For Hoshido"
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>>144023241
Why are you using that ancient shitty translation patch?
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>>144020152
Grab like, the first oni chieftan skill, then reclass her as a Blacksmith. She needs to bring the magic technology of iron working back to her tribe to be any good.
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>>144023464
>mfw imouto has at least three capped stats on the last four runs
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>>144023464
Yeah it's unfortunate, but she'll catch up
>>144023563
War Priestess
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>>144023241
Oh ups. Forgot Astrohl(A-support with Lillina)

Where do you get a Promotion item for thieves? He's lv. 20/20

>>144023570
Lazy. Took the first translation Patch i found
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>>144022392
She's best girl

I want to make her happy forever
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>>144023562
I don't think there has been another poll of just 5th gen, of course Zoroark would fall off with all pokemon accounted for.
Azura would similarly score even lower if all FE characters in the series were up for votes.
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>>144023719
>Oh ups. Forgot Astrohl(A-support with Lillina)
How do you even have two A supports with the same unit?
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>>144023714
>War Priestess
Oh. Yeah that should of been obvious.
I dunno I have a really hard time trusting anything that comes out of the current fan translation.
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>>144023719
>>144023886

And the next mistake .
Astohl only has B-support
Sry
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>>144018897
Nina
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>>144024237
Is shit
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>>144024237
*Cucks you for Shiro
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>>144024237
whoa hey guys
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>>144023930
Bear Priestess when?
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>>144024237
Nina's bony butt!
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>>144024237
has a bony ass under there I bet.
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>>144024406
They could of done so much more with the spirit animal shit. There could of been some neat shit out of that.

>>144024237
Thanks for reminding me most of the DLC images look like trash.
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>>144018897
Aqua
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>>144023241
R8 PLS!
MISSING ONE ON MY TEAM IS ASTOHL(B-SUPPORT WITH LILLINA)
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>>144022392

Yeah, Sakura is great. I wasn't expecting to use her much but I'm glad I gave her a chance. She ended up being the first unit I promoted, and I haven't regretted that a bit.
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>>144024237
>still feeding rollposters
>for dubs
>>>>>on /vg/
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>>144023930
Well, it's Miko -> Ikusa Miko in elevenese.
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>>144024721
>She ended up being the first unit I promoted, and I haven't regretted that a bit.
You were grinding, weren't you? Either that or you early promoted her.
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>>144024721
Yeah, healers are pretty much always the first unit I promote since they hit 20 so fast.
>>144024846
It's not really hard to get healers a lot of xp
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>>144024930
>It's not really hard to get healers a lot of xp
>playing on anything lower than Lunatic
>claiming unit superiority
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>>144024930
>tfw leveling up a troubodar in GBA Era
Zzzzz
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>Been stuck on Chapter 12 for fucking ages
>Finally get up a plan that will work for getting past Ryouma
>Using the Miko up in the top right teleport Corrin/Camilla and Azura/Beruka up to the corner area while the rest hold off the enemies in the hall
>Done it a million times but every time I always fuck up right at the end and get someone killed by accident
>I've finally figured it out a full proof
>The fucking Miko keeps missing the stupid teleport spell now despite never missing it before
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>>144018897
Azura
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Are the Einherjar you can buy in the My Castle shops worth playing around with for a gimmick run?

Do they get portrait changes on promotion?
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>>144025131
Git gud kid
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>>144025131
Is that you Etika?
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>>144024835
Eh, maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. I would rather just go with what's official and stick with that, nothing to really argue there. Also adding to the fact that the online FE community is a complete clusterfuck when it comes down to translations, "fixing" shit, and all that crap.

Guess all that matters is having fun in the end.
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>>144025131
Etika pls
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Why can't I do chapter 24 on birthright guys

I don't want to use the lobster

Should I just lobster so I can get started on conquest?
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>>144025541
I get what you mean and I do hate many decisions that the fan translation did. But in this case it's just a literal translation.
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>>144023719
Thieves don't promote, they're there just for the utility
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>>144025704
Do it!

OUGI
YOU DIE, NOW!
FOR THE GLORY OF HOSHIDO
YOU DESERVE WORSE
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>>144025704
If you're just doing it to be a completionist, go ahead and revv up that lobster.
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Anyone else been having a blast with Calamity Gate?

I know PvP is a downright mess at the moment but I've been hysterics at the amount of min/max Ninja units I've completely shat on with my Nohr Noble Corrin with this scroll.
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>>144024846

Grinding is fun. I don't mind being a pleb or whatever, I play it the way I enjoy it the most. I'm bad at strategy games so hard mode is always challenging for me, even if I grind.
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>>144025704
I didn't use Ougi at all on my first Lunatic run, BR is easy compared to Conquest hard.
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>>144025131
Literally just use the guard naginata and flame shuriken my boi.
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>>144025828
Rly? Damn

Well Thanks anyways
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>>144026063
How far can that meme even feasibly take you?
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>>144025981
Calamity Gate is GOAT magic on Fates.
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>>144026063
This meme has to stop
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>>144026163
Judging by the streams, apparently exactly up to chapter 12.
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>>144025956

I kinda just feel like I'm wasting my time just now when all everyone talks about is revelations or conquest so I probably will just consider the lobster

>>144026049
I've never been able to finish a fire emblem game on lunatic
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>>144026290
Alright. Now if you didn't have the tactical mind of a potato?
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>>144026286
The only one here with a meme problem is you, Etika.
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>>144025704

Speaking of that, I want to do an experiment involving Xander on Lunatic.
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>>144026547
No, he can't solo Lunatic.
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>>144026346
Play more, you'll eventually get better. Conquest for one killed my turtling playstyle.
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>>144026524
Well I always thought when people say that they mean act like him. But still, it'd probably still be chapter 12 since that's when you get the flame shuriken normally and it can be considered a regular weapon. Guard naginata is broken throughout the entire game, at least in Birthrights case
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>>144026646

I'll be the judge of that.
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>>144025704
get your waifu/husbando, pump them up with stat boosters and just finish the game
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>>144026346
Believe me, using lobster doesn't even count as cheesing or anything.
Not when there's rampant skill buying and cheating.
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>>144026207
I wasn't sold on Nohr Noble at first because of how the class stacks 2x weapon weakness against the MEMERIKEN but ever since it occurred to me to use Calamity it's turned out to be a surprisingly well-rounded class.

The only trouble I can foresee in future is Point-Blank grind teams but Yato shits on bows anyway so it's almost a moot point.
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>>144026547
>Xander on Lunatic.
He can't.
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>>144026779
He can't, seriously. The sheer number of enemies with percentage based damage means no unit can tank their way to victory, then add the mix of effective weaponry and magic and even Xander can't outbullshit the difficulty.

And that before the game starts throwing invevitable end at you. Xander is still a very versatile solution for most of your problems when dealing with troublesome clusters of enemies, but he can't literally solo the route like you do with Ryoma in Birthright - no one would, the game was designed to fuck over turtling or soloing period.
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>>144022338
Please respond, phone battery is low, I'm in a car, and I don't know what pots have what in cq 12 lunatic so I'm a bit short on options besides starting an Awakening playthrough
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>>144027112
No. Awakening isn't fun due to the boring level design and unbalanced mechanics, there's nothing you can do from your end to change that.
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>>144027112
It's more fun on Hard with no Second Seals and maybe no Pair-Ups if you're just looking for a not-too invested play-through.

I've always thought no Pair-Up Lunatic to just be a joke though as Lunatic wasn't handled very well in Awakening and play-throughs get VERY samey if you limit your options of dealing with the bullshit.
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Okay so I revamped D tier from that Conquest list a little bit back with Odin getting the new honour of being the worst unit in the game.

>D
Nyx
Laslow
Mozu
Odin
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I am playing chapter 26 of conquest in hard classic. The one in which you have to kill Iago.
My Selena with axe breaker just got killed from a silver axe 7% crit that had a 34% chance of hitting.
In the previous playthrough the same happened, but it was Berserker Arthur getting a crit from a spear.
this all happened in the last room, after clearing the monsters on the left wing and the mages on the right wing.
this feels like throwing an hour and a half away.
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>>144027112
Found this with a quick Google search. Main pot you should concern yourself with is the +4 Defense at the start, it can make a huge difference.
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>>144026842
Thanks for the advice, I just paired hana up with takumi and walked through the map ignoring everything and just killed hans in one turn plus his attack

t-thanks..
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>>144026779
Xander is still hilariously, ridiculously good in Conquest, but Birthright Ryoma is literally "move into enemy Zone, press end turn, oh look everything's deal lol" the character.

>>144027553
Huh, Mozu's not the worst unit anymore? What changed your mind?
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>>144027642
birthright gets really boring around then, just an army of mages spewing crap while everyone has 50 health.
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>>144027553
what about Sniper Mozu? she is I need someone dead, kill it, the unit. hits twice with close to 50% chance of getting a crit. and she is also a great mother. Percy Mozu is great, Velouria Mozu is great to. Adaptability is always a great ability to pass, or +40 hit.
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>>144027553
I'd give nyx my D desu
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>>144027860
You're right, I think I am overestimating the difficulty of these maps
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Are you limited to one Battle Seal / Master Emblem per play-through?
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>>144027970
just give her forged lightning, and dick
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>>144027553
Seems fine. I suspect the power gap between Lazlel and Zoom isn't that big? I haven't tried reclassing Lazlel but it seems he would still be a bad unit otherwise aside from his rally (which I've found quite useful ironically)
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>>144027639
Is this Lunatic strats or something? It always feels weird seeing so much effort put into this when I just kind of brute force some things
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>>144028125
>they covered up shirtless Ryoma

it's shit
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>>144023557
Not only that, the straight and gay supports are exactly the same.
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>>144028292
That's because you cheat.
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>>144027714
Since character limits are (lol this is just what was argued about a little bit back.

http://pastebin.com/44yvRXtM

>>144027928
The guy who convinced me to move her up actually argued to stay in Villager, since unless the Servant or Camilla gets benched it's pretty much a lost cause for her.

Also this is assuming efficiency.
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I can apply undub patch for USA version on my European FE Fates version without problem?
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>>144028125
CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE Mamui!!
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>>144028125
Ryoma's chest > Camilla's desu
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>>144027639
>the lunatic DV is right next to a Hex pot
They really didn't want you to use it
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Which dads' color schemes would look the best on certain kids?
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>>144028704
Who's hands are those?
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>>144024930
Is this some kind of joke? Even healing every turn, my healers don't level as fast as my combat squad. They don't get counterattack exp or kill exp. I can't wait to get people out of healing classes.
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>>144028292
Of course it's going to be easy if you grind and don't play on the highest difficulty.
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HEY /FEG/GOTS DID THE HACKER EVER FINISH THE FUCKIGN REVELATIONS REBALANCE THING?

PLS RESPOND
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>>144028704
Hey now let's not lose our heads here. I'm sure both of their chests are great.

>>144028792
Probably Xander's.
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>>144028792
mine
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>>144028792
Mine.
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>>144027553
If you're the kind of player that can't see a use in Mozu you would also not see a use in Benny but Benny is higher than this so ?

Also there's reason to use Odin/Nyx in 8/10 but there's never reason to use Laslow or your second servant
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>>144028201
Mozu is pretty comparable, level 12 or so is fair for the time you get to Laslow if you're actively using her at which point she'll have around 12 Str and 15 AS compared to Laslow's 15/13, meaning she'll double more, as well as her nearing or at C rank Lances by then giving her more boosts too.

...Fuck me, Mozu might actually have a case for going above Laslow too.
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>>144026779
Do yourself a favor, look up "Inevitable End".
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>hack 2DS that I barely use
>run Sacred Stones on mGBA
>it's slow as hell
>Google not giving any clear solutions

Sorry, but I'm new to the CFW scene. How do I fix this, if I can?
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>>144029218
>there's never reason to use your second servant
An extra healbot can't hurt.
>>
Who should kill green autismo next and how?
http://pastebin.com/TZ8mMuDX
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>>144020152
how about benching her that sounds like a better idea
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>>144029218
I actually think Benny can drop to D, like what does he do exactly aside from have the mobility of a rock?

Not sure about Benny vs Mozu though, but assuming both are in play I think Mozu might win due to offense?
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>>144020152
She's a tank unit
Ninja isn't a tank class
Oni is
Do the math
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>>144027553
What is the full tier list?
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>>144028665
>that Mozu paste
Huh, that was actually well thought and unbiased. Nice job!

I still don't like giving Camilla a Heart Seal that early, though.
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>>144029703
I used Oswin, Gilliam, Gatrie, Aran, and Kellam and found them all immensely valuable and one of the most useful units on my squad; I'm not so sure about Benny for a few reasons, but I still think he's ok.
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>>144030048
Why
she can do very well as a revenant and the skills are neat, too
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>>144029286
Well, Lazlow does have instant 8 mov on promotion and a clutch rally.
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>>144030048
It wasn't me that wrote it, it was just transcribing what a friend of mine did a few days ago.
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>>144030138
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>>144025081
i mean with the free dlc you could just give them paragon unless you dont like using dlc I did that
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>>144030138
>>
Would a +MAG Femui do good as a Malig Knight? Trying to figure something out for my next Revelation run wherein I utilize a lot of fliers
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>>144030230
I don't get what you mean. I was saying that I'm against giving Camila an early Heart Seal, and you only said part of why I think so.

I think it's not a good investment because she doesn't need it. She already wrecks in combat during that early in the game, so I see no reason to waste cash on that. You also lose one useful albeit situational skill if you class change her.
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>>144030138
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>>144030474
Adding to that. Eventually you should reclass her, it's only that during that point it's not needed.
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>>144029286
Mozu beats Laslow in combat in Chapter 12 probably due to Lances giving her WTA against the Samurai and having 1-2 range with Javelins for the Ninjas. Granted anyone not on a mount or not named Niles is on cleanup duty that chapter anyways but I think if both are deployed she'll have a better time at it than Laslow.

In Chapter 13 it's iffy because the chances of her getting a Beastkiller instead of Camilla/Peri are slim, but I guess vs Peri there's a case for it since one of the Cavs in the group near Reina has a Beastkiller too. Laslow doesn't double the Cavs due to low AS either unlike Mozu.
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>>144025704
yeah that level is true pain but just try either camping at the bottom for a few turns or just go full offensive with a few characters that you are really confident in while you use some other supportive units to help out
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>>144030642
I was agreeing with you, I always reclass her lategame, depends on how much I used her in the run

but it's always after trample
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>>144030138
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>>144030772
Also Camila makes a really good Bolt Axe user.
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>>144030138
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>>144028292
just because you're an idiot who has to cheat to get anywhere doesn't mean other people are the same
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>>144029218
>>144029703
I agree Benny could drop, but I haven't really seen enough on him numerically to say either way yet.

Just saying "he has bad offense" doesn't tell anyone much, you could claim that about anybody if you don't have proof.
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>>144030138
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>>144030473
Corrin makes a great mixed attacker so yeah.
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>>144030772
>leaving Camilla as a Malig Knight for 15 levels
You do realize this pretty much gimps her, right? I never leave her as one past level 5. 10 levels of a mediocre gains class isn't worth one skill.
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>>144030926
apart from levin sword, magic weapons in fates are kinda underrated, IMO.

Bolt naginata and bolt axe have actually pretty good might, so they can do some good damage against certain enemies. Most of them seem to have lower res, my magic corrin wrecked shit in Conquest
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>>144030474
I generally reclass her immediately since she gets to Beastkiller Reina in Chapter 13 that way which makes it a lot less of a pain

There's cases to be made either way really (and if Camilla doesn't get it there's a high chance Corrin would instead, especially if her subclass is Cav for dat Elbow Room)
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>>144028906
1. Heal every damn thing. This is also important for building staff rank
2. Use sing to give your healer a second heal that turn, they can get a second chance to gain exp even if there's no enemies nearby
3. Use higher ranked staves as soon as you can. Every staff beyond Mend is limited in supply, but Rescues and Entraps are really the only ones important enough to hoard for late game, maybe also keep around a Freeze for just in case. The point is that higher ranking staves often give better exp, even if they miss.
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>>144029703
mobility issues aren't even that much of an issue in Fates. Pair up exist and units are easily ferried
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>>144030689
>Mozu using lances

Anon, you reclass her to Archer literally the instant you get her. Why are you doing a tier list if you don't even know something so basic and widely agreed upon?
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>>144031235
They'll still be behind everyone, even more son on Lunatic where staves give you less exp.
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>all the people shit-talking mozu never actually bothered to reclass her
well that makes sense
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>>144027553
>144027553
the worst character in the game
Jakob-Gains are alright but he gets left behind really quick
Gunter-Gains are trash nothing further
Mozu-She is just like any other unit but the extra grinding for bow is just a pain in the ass
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>>144031369
That tier lists shows that from an efficiency standpoint, Mozu makes way more relevant albeit redundant because other units could do that as a lance user than as an archer.
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>>144030978
Benny's offense isn't "terrible", 30 Atk with his Steel Lance and a Charlotte pairup out of the gate doesn't sound too bad even if he's in purgatory when it comes to never doubling.

I forget what enemy stats are like in Conquest 13 past AS though so I might not be accurate there.
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>husbandofags still think that Niles is better than Mozu
(lol enjoy your no strength
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can anyone tell me where the awakening kids is in Nohr? Considering that Nohr is basically a terrible place, you think they would be more wary, especially with Iago/Vladimir around
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>>144031172
>Xander with 16 speed at level 20
You know

His base speed at level 4 is 15
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>>144031750
>not marry Niles to Mozu to have the middle ground
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>>144031523
>ranking units based on gains
I'll even ironically use a Mozu reaction image.
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>>144027553
Why isn't Jakob (M) there?
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>>144031103
I'm looking at the stats now between a lvl 5 sealed camilla and a level 15 sealed camilla and there's only a difference of 1hp, 1 skill, and 1 def at the cost 1 of one res. She isn't really crippled all that much. Lance wr is probably the biggest difference between them.
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>>144031442
Nigga people are arguing Mozu UP for the first time in forever, take what you can get.
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>>144031842
Mozu is one of the worst units.
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>>144031172
did you early promote some units because some of these stats just seem really low
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>>144029446

Pls help.
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>>144031893
Yeah I second this, Jakob 2 definitely deserves D

At least Felicia 2 can be a staffer, Jakob 2 just has nothing thanks to Gunter
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>>144031442
>have to buy a heart seal or her when there are 3 other characters that would make better use of it and requires no effort or babying.
Such is about efficiency
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I really wanna fuck Hayato silly.
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>>144032227
What the fuck
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>>144032227
he's a little shit that deserves nothing good
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>>144031426
They'll be behind, but not by as much as they would be in earlier games in the series since staves actually scale experience by level difference unlike in most of those. I think I got Elise to level 18 Strategist in Conquest on Hard using her almost the entire game, so you'd probably want to promote at 15 or so on Lunatic since you won't get to max level anyhow. You still want to try to promote as late as you can tolerate though since staff experience drops HARD after promotion, and Elise(and to a lesser extent Felicia and Leo), have pretty bad accuracy as Strategists so actually getting to attack things won't help as much with getting experience as you'd expect it to, especially since Strategists die to anything but other magic users, which like to group with physical attackers in Conquest.
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>Mozu is bad meme
>Mozu is good meme
Mozu is a comfy archer on Conquest. I don't see the harm of using her when a scrub like myself can pass Lunatic while using her. I used Niles as well for Shining Bow Nina.
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>>144032227
I'm not sure what's worse, that someone made that or that hayato actually looks good as a woman.
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>>144031801
Yeah, Xander is slow.
What will you tell me now? That /feg/ is shit?
What did you expect? Not that he needs speed anyway

>>144032083
I did so with the pair up bots, to make them give higher stats
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Marry the one you love regardless of memes or you'll regret it.
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>>144032348
Elise can afford to promote as early as 10~15 because of her retarded Mag and Spd growths, though. Give her a Fire Tome (preferably forged) and she's a surprisingly good fallback unit, makes a much better magic user than her disgrace of a sibling that is Leo thanks to doubling and absurd Mag, it's way easier to patch up accuracy than Spd.
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>>144032535
She's shit. Only good on casual runs
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>>144031973
If Mozu is one of the worse unit then that makes Niles the worst unit.
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>>144032227
>diviner outfit is amazing
>omnyoji's is shit
For what purpose?
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>>144032592
I'm telling you his speed is 6 below average, and that he needs speed to not be doubled
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What's happen if I play uncensored version and I send a removed item on any castle?
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>>144032689
Onmyoji is comfy
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>>144031910
I actually did leave her as a MK until level 15 the first time I played because someone told me to for Trample, and then the second time reclassed her at level 5 instead. As far as I remember her stats as a MK were pretty middling, where her HP and Def really suffered by comparison. Just going by growths it's obvious that WL is better in every way but Res. She also gets just as much milage out spears (like beast killer) as she does out of a bolt axe, if not more since she probably won't get too many magic levels anyway.

>>144031973
Nilesfag plz stop. I like him but Mozu utterly outclasses him as an archer. Hell she probably outclasses Takumi as well.
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>>144032626
Nice meme.
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Why do people make continuous tier lists based off of "efficiency"? If you're striving for optimal efficiency in your playthrough, wouldn't you just take the 16 best units regardless of their specific rank and ignore everyone else? What's the point of extra precision, then?

Why not instead rank based on the quantity of plausible non-flavor reasons to include or exclude the unit? Then your tier list helps out a greater amount of people since few care about absolute efficiency, and having more than 2 tiers becomes more justifiable.

For example, Corrin would seize the top slot by being impossible to exclude, Servant1, Silas, Effie and Niles would rank highly for being incredibly valuable and serving scarce functions early game, Mozu and Benny would rank reasonably for being great in slower play, Camilla would see a high but not top tier ranking thanks to some people not liking to uae heart seals or prepromotes, Xander would rank extremely highly due to coming in at a point of the game where the prepromote stat advantage is becoming less important and being incredibly valuable to both fast and slow players, and Laslow would still be ranked at the bottom thanks to fulfilling absolutely no unique niche.
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>>144032794
Yeah he got kinda speed screwed, I know.

But not that he cares about it. He still did what I needed him to do.
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>>144032626
You seriously are going to tell me that all the people who thrash talk her are efficiency and LTC players and not shitposters who just jump on the hate train?

If /feg/ had this much people worried about gameplay, it wouldn't be such a hellhole of a place.
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>>144032554
When I first saw Hayato on one of Etika's videos, I thought he was a girl.
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I want to get into fire emblem, should I start with #FE?
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>>144027091

I'm not going to literally solo the game, but I want to see how bullshit he is. I will feed him all my statboosters, even going so far as to recruit Midori so he can get the extra one. I'm going to get skills and classes from Laslow and Corrin, and see how ridiculous things get.
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>>144033004
No, start with Gaiden.
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>>144032535
>actually make a reasonable argument that Mozu is better than someone instead of just pointing out all of her flaws for once
>thread devolves into shit anyways
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>>144032842
It's not a meme.

She's shit because she starts bad and requires a lot of investment to even good.

"But she comes alright once you invest in her" isn't a counterargument because it doesn't change the fact she needs investment.

People just like jerking themselves off to the 5-6 stat level-ups she sometimes gets and like to convince themselves that it makes her good
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>Mozu is better than Niles
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>>144033004
No, play gaiden
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>>144033004
Yes
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>>144032227
I don't know what else to feel but undeniable lust.
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>>144033004
Start with codename STEAM
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best titty ninja
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>Cousin is playing Conquest
>Says he has a great time using Beruka and she's awesome
>call bullshit and ask him to send me a picture of his Beruka
>This is his beruka
She has +2 from meals because I showed him the ways of having Peri on a chef hat.

What's your veredict, anons?
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>niles is better than mozu
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>>144033247
Give into anon. I did.
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>>144033178
And Niles is even worse, enjoy doing no damage against enemies.
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>>144033205
>Niles is better in Mozu
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>>144033328
>Rend Heaven

Buying skills, I think.
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>>144033178
Nigga she'll probably be better than Niles after her paralogue if you aren't that hung up over feeding her kills there.
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>Nlies is better than Mozu
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>>144033431
Mozufag is just mad that Niles is a better wife than Mozu
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>>144033328
>bowbreaker

gay
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>>144033654
read it carefully anon
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>>144028201
Laslow requires other rallies to make full use of his personal, which stacks with those, but all that reclassing is too much for "efficiency". Not to mention his main way of getting either rally strength or rally speed outside of castle shenanigans is through a marriage, so he has to choose between the two, and Charlotte is already in high demand for several others.

Going for Speed is probably the better option anyhow, since you can use Belka for Attack+Defense, though that leaves him as a Pegasus with an E in Lances, at least Darting Blow will help with his mediocre speed. Your other speed options are Selena herself and Shigure, who each have other rallies they can grab but will also leave them with weapons they don't want to use. Rallybotting just doesn't play well with efficiency runs if you go for more than one, even Belka has to lose her mount to get her other one so she's not completely free either.

Capturing enemies with rallies might also seem like an option, but you need to abuse castles or DLCs to recruit any of those in a timely manner, so capturing plays badly with certain kinds of limitations.
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from the dlc

>Joker: I like f-
>Flora: Flora?!

I thought it was just a meme. What was Joker going to say?
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>>144033583
What, you mean the MAYBE level or two you can get her by going out of your way to funnel her to the boss?

Does someone have to link the pastebin to babyfeed you all again?
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>>144033893
I like fags
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>>144033893
how about you read the rest of the convo
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>>144032890
Efficiency tend to just relate to turn count and resource expenditure. Like you'd expect a high tier unit to only need basic things to do well and/or use more prestigious items better than others, while a lower tier unit needs more to function well.

Also you can still play efficiently when you're not using only the best units in the game. Fuck I've used Mozu efficiently in the past (yes it is possible to use Mozu efficiently, no it's nothing to do with the "waste a Heart Seal and every kill on her" meme).
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>>144033893
Fruit
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>le homo eyepatch man is good
(lol
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>>144034008

Why is Azura so mean?
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I really hate you /feg/. No tsundere bullshit, I really hate you.
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>>144033018
Well, I can at least say that a fully capped Great Knight Xander with +2 Def from a tonic, +2 from a meal, +4 from Siegfried, +4 from an castle event and +5 from being married to Beruka, was cheered on by Rallyman and danced by Azura is still going to graciously fail to solo the left side of Ryoma's chapter in Lunatic. I tried while showing a friend that such tactics wouldn't work on Conquest all the time.

It was pretty cool to watch, though. He held back pretty well, only to fall at Saizo's Flame Shuriken after being lunged all the way from the middle of the map up to the tile in front of his throne.

Also various other situations that involve magic users, effective weaponry and ninjas with HP % damage skills in general are going to fuck Xander over. The route was made with you trying to do it in mind, in those cases, succeeding to solo it ends up being sheer luck, it's way easier to use your wit and actually strategise behind those challenges.

But man, I wish I had recorded a video of that glorious Lunge chain.
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>>144033328
>Rend Heaven
>Bow Breaker
Explains alot
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>get silver prize from the lottery
>usually get bronze weapons, sometimes even an occasional iron weapon
>it's an armorslayer
Pretty good.
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>>144033898
I spent like 50 turns getting her to like level 5 in my current lunatic playthrough; was able to get her to 10 halfway through chapter 9 and she's been one shorting everything in the rest of 9, 10, and 11
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>>144034008
Silence, water.
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Mozufags are dumb.

Niles is usable right out the gate with good bases and weapon ranks. No investment or babying needed. 9 base str with a 45% growth is pretty good considering bows hit very hard and he'll double 99% of the time. He also gets more movement, much better utility and a horse over Mozu. And finally he can get shurikenbreaker which is extremely useful in dealing with jerk ass ninjas.

TLDR: Niles brings much more to the table than Mozu ever could and is a better unit overall.

Growthbabies need to leave or stay quiet.
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>>144033996
>(yes it is possible to use Mozu efficiently, no it's nothing to do with the "waste a Heart Seal and every kill on her" meme).
Please teach me your ways.
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>>144034130

I'm gonna use Laslow to get Shurikenbreaker and Sol. Corrin will pass on a class too, but I'm not sure which one.
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>>144034008
Do not talk about your husband that way
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>>144034146
People are arguing she's not useful because she needs special treatment like that.
Also, personal experience means nothing.
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>>144033996
>"Also you can still play efficiently when you're not using only the best units in the game"
The point is that you get more efficient use of your resources if you only use the best characters.

If your "efficient" use of Mozu means using ANY resources on her - if those resources used on another character would result in the other unit being better then that is an INEFFICIENT use of resources.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't be doing a 100% efficient run by making use of sub-par characters.
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>>144034143
I've gotten Guard Naginatas from silver prizes. Much better than getting Silver weapons for getting gold.
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/feg/ I'm looking into getting a Powersave for Fates.
Can someone explain how I update one?
I remember there was a cord that came with the Action Replays when they were relevant.
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>>144034143
Reminds me of my current Revelation run. I managed to get Steel Bows three times straight and now I have a +2 Steel Bow while buying only one.
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>>144034429
Eh, to be fair with the new experience formula in Fates, experience is actually a resource that can be argued about where it's best expend. The formula makes exp more or less rubberband because it also takes the current chapter you are into account to determine if you can or can't overlevel on top of level difference.
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>Mozu memers btfo yet again
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>>144034429
>You can't be doing a 100% efficient run by making use of sub-par characters.
And yet husbandofags try to claim that a sub-par character like Niles is good.
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>>144034146
Read the pastebin in this post. >>144028665
It's based around comparing Odin and Mozu everything you need to know as to why she's a pretty underwhelming unit.

She requires special treatment and basically just turns out alright. She's not the worst unit in the game but jesus christ people will flock to defend her at the drop of a hat and it is completely unjustified.
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>>144034207
Keep crying over Niles being unable to kill.
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What's happen if I play uncensored version and I send a removed item on any castle??
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Tbqh, despite his flaws Niles is the GOAT non-royal unit in Conquest. He only needs a +str pairup and Steel Bow to reliably shit on mages and pega ponies. Not to mention the early chapters and Endgame of Lunatic are literally impossible without him.
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>Niles memers in denial yet again
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Why do Mozucucks hate Nilesbros so much? Why can't they just love their waifu without shitposting and trying to make her into something she isn't?
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>>144034008
>great speed and resistance
>unique capturing ability
>good mobility even offering +1 movement to being paired up
>locktouch for getting those chests
>not good
Meanwhile whats Mozu got over him?
>vagina
>wasting a valuable seal just to make her useful
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>>144034751
Well for early chapters you literally have nothing but him.
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>>144034663
>She's not the worst unit in the game but jesus christ people will flock to defend her at the drop of a hat and it is completely unjustified.
That's because the way people go on around saying she's absurd utter thrash sounds more like trying to use Donnel in Lunatic.

The only reason people rush to defend her so is because others attack her like she's literally impossible to use. And it's mostly memers baiting for replies because of the ones defending her anyway. But that started somewhere, you know.
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How would Camilla feel if Xander and I fucked her retainers and left her on the bench for the entire game after 10?
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>>144034751
>He only needs a +str pairup and Steel Bow
So you need to baby Niles to make him actually able to kill things.
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Mozu is stinky
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>>144034641
The Mozu argument isn't even about experience - though she does need to be funneled early levels to not get dicked by everything.

Archer ASAP Mozu as the basis of these arguments is just a complete non-starter because you're better off using that seal on Camilla or Jakob.

We shouldn't even be getting to the point of arguing if she's stat-wise better than Niles, why the fuck are people Sealing her that early anyway.
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Arguably the perfect man AND woman. How can Mozu even compete?
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>>144034931
Baffled over what the hell ia he doing there at chapter 10
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>>144034967
>why the fuck are people Sealing her that early anyway.
Because why would you want an E rank later when you can have one when most of your units are still at D?

And I still think it's inefficient to reclass Camila that early, and I'm not even talking about giving the seal to Mozu. She can wait to reclass after level 5, her combat is already fantastic by that point.
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>>144034820
Kaze can do all of those things far better than Niles and Mozu is a far better unit for killing enemies than Niles. Thanks for showing how Niles is a useless piece of shit.
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>>144034073
Because she's hiding her bitter disappointment over her lack of popularity.
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>>144033254
It is time
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>>144034207
Being able to double would be nice if he could actually hit anything, his skill is abysmal and doesn't like to go up, he's easily the least accurate bow user in the game, and the only help he gets with that from his classes is Lucky 7, which requires going through Adventurer, which doesn't do anything else useful for him.

Also if mobility was that important, everyone would be using Mozume as a Kinshi Knight, though having Azura as one for Hinoka's chapter was all I needed, since having both Sniper Mozume and Adventurer Nina fielded meant I could cover anything that got too close to the main group easily enough.
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>>144034905
The Mozu is good / Mozu is bad memes are just as bad as one another.

I'm mainly picking apart the "Mozu can be used efficiently" garbage.

Like, you can make her work - but don't go round trying to convince yourself or others that she's even close to optimal.
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I can reclass a character or not?
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>reclassing camilla before corrin

why reclass when you can get that dank Bolt Axe combat midgame
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>>144034143
I've gotten Horse Spirits and Killer bow and Mjollnirs from Silver lotto balls before. Magic must love me.
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>>144034967
Camilla one shots and tanks everything without a reclass for a while after promotion if you aren't benching her for the sake of actually having fun with the game, she doesn't need a seal until after enemies get promotions
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>Mozu is shit!
>No, Niles is shit!
>No, Mozu's shit!

What the fuck am I missing here?
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>it's a Nilesfag shitposting episode
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>>144035206
>Kaze can do all of those things far better than Niles and Mozu is a far better unit for killing enemies than Niles
Kaze can't capture enemies, lacks Move +1 and his damage also sucks because even though Niles is le no str eyepatch homo, bows have high as fuck Mt. Daggers have low Mt and Kaze is le coin flip str ninja man himself.
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Mozu belongs to Silas
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>>144035374
If you want.
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>>144035392
They're both shit, it's just that Mozu is more shit
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What the fuck are people talking about with "wasting" a heart seal on Mozu. I only used two heart seals in my Conquest playthrough. One on Mozu and one on Camilla.
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>>144035368
>Like, you can make her work - but don't go round trying to convince yourself or others that she's even close to optimal.
Fair enough, but if you look around people mostly treat her as someone as impossible to use as Lunatic Donnel. The number of well written comments regarding why she's inefficient to use are dime a dozen compared to the one liners of "Mozu is utter thrash".
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>>144035374
No, reclassing Mozu is cheating. It's fine to put all of your resources into Niles to make him be actually useful though.
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>>144035392
Nothing, just Mozufags getting salty when people say how she's not all that
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I love Pieri and so do you!
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>>144035687
What happened to Peri's feets?
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>>144035392
Nilesfags can't come up with any good reasons why Niles isn't shit so they just try to call Mozu shit to deflect any criticism towards their precious husbando.
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>>144035591

Lunatic Donnel is pretty shit, and I mean really shit. Even not talking efficiency, he's shit. But I'd still use him over Ricken.
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>>144035392
Shitposters decided to target Niles using Mozu as an excuse
Just ignore it and let the shitposters burn themselves out
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>>144035687
Save us from the shitposting, Perianon
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Is Beruka or Cynthia a better best friend to Severa?
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>>144035187
>And I still think it's inefficient to reclass Camila that early, and I'm not even talking about giving the seal to Mozu
Here's the problem though - the argument was never how early you should be re-classing Camilla.

It was people arguing that Mozu isn't a completely underwhelming unit and using an early Archer Mozu as the crux of it.

>Niles is worse than Mozu, Mozu has to re-class into archer before possibly being better but the playing field is still even honest.

Honestly funnel the resource equivalent of an early Seal into Niles and you'll get similar use out of him as GOTTA MAKE HER WORK Mozu.
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>>144035392
Nothing.
And really, if you marry them to eachother they both benefit in the long run. Mozu likes +1 Move and Niles liked being an Archer to fix his strength.
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>>144035687
What would happen if you had a bad day and lashed out at Peri?
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>>144035687
What would Peri's Pokémon team look like?
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>>144035795
They're still there she just took a trip to Awakening
>>144035864
I don't think anyone can do that but I can try
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>>144035687

If I love her so much, then what would I do for her?
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>>144035517
How?
>>144035619
Why?
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>>144034858
Exactly. It's the same case with the first servant practically being needed in C8, or Silas's everything until C10. He still fills a lot of niches past early game regardless.

>>144034945
Conquest shits +str pairups, and a Steel Bow is literally all he needs for the rest of the game. That's nothing compared to Muhzu needing a Heart Seal and babying just to get her started. Niles is good senpai, try using him some time,
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>>144035891
>Here's the problem though - the argument was never how early you should be re-classing Camilla.
Well, I'm not defending reclassing Mozu here, but when people go >wasting one of the 2 early seals on Mozu when you should use it on Camila and your servant, they are implying that yes, you should be reclassing Camila early.
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>Niles is t-totally useful
>j-just give him a +str pair-up, forged Steel Bow, Strength Tonics and all of the Strength Drops
>see he's f-far better than Mozu
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>>144035882
Who knows, Severa has a lot of friends
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Ever notice how Nilesfags leave detailed explanations on Niles is better and Mozu just isn't that good, showing knowledge of the game and it's mechanics you know actual gameplay discussion? While Mozufags are just "uhhhhhhh... Niles sucks!"
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most efficient unit in Conquest is rallyman
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>>144035380
Because bolt axe Camilla is overrated.
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>>144035891
Only things you really need to buy early game are a Steel Lance and a Javelin for Effie as well as the general heal staves; you can buy a Heart Seal and Bronze Bow and still have all that.
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>>144035380

Are people reclassing for Rally Defense or something? 1 strength and speed barely matters.
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>>144036145
I have and he's shit on Conquest Lunatic since he can't kill anything while Mozu can easily kill enemies.
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Efficiencybros ww@???
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>>144036054
Heart Seals into their secondary class
Partner Seals into their S support's class
Friendship Seals into their A+ support's class
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>>144036160
Nice strawman Shitzufag, how about providing an actual argument.
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>>144034429
>You can't be doing a 100% efficient run by making use of sub-par characters

When the hell did I claim I was?

It's not "you can do an 100% efficient run with any team", it's "you can play any team efficiently". Stop twisting words to get around it, because the bottom line is that some units are harder/more resource intensive to use efficiently than others and that's where tier disparities come in.
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>>144036375
Shitposting as usual
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>>144035420
Capturing is a novelty gimmick that rarely gets used unless you're grinding castles or DLCs, Hunting Knife is close to as effective as a bow on pegasus and chicken knights, which are going to be most of the fliers in Conquest, AND can hit from range 1-2, Ninja gives move+1 to other units the way Thief does, which amounts to the same amount of movement, especially since move+1 doesn't get factored into pair up bonuses. Poison Strike and Debuffs also means Kaze doesn't even NEED to be able to do damage to cripple foes for others to have an easier time with them. Also Kaze can and will actually hit things twice, including Samurai that Niles doesn't have a chance in hell of even hitting once most of the time. But aside from that last point, this is pretty much comparing Thieves and Ninja, where it's pretty clear Ninja is the better choice most of the time so it's not fair to Niles to compare the two of them.
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I like Azura and Flora, what does that make me?
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>>144036263
You mean them babying Niles while saying it's not okay to baby Mozu?
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>>144036008
Crying
>>144036045
Be a loving husband
>>144036018
Half fairy type half dark type
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What does Laslow like to do with Peri's feets?
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Is Spear Master only useful after getting level 15 on Basara?
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>>144036314
its still good though

>>144036362
better growths i guess

>>144036375
selena is overrated in efficiency. No time to make her combat not ass, and rally speed alone is not worth using her in most maps. Just use seals on her for endgame Rescue if you don't have shigure. That's it
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>>144036362
It's more because Wyvern Lord has better growths overall + better caps + Lances. Camilla doesn't have the magic to be getting many gains there on average.
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>he fell for the trainee unit meme
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The ironic part is most people here don't even play for efficiency or do LTC runs.
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>>144036696
There are no trainee units in Fates. Villager is a tier 1 class like any other.
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>he fell for the homo eyepatch man meme
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what the hell is a "100% efficient run"

how do you objectively quantify that
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>>144036159
It was just an example of more efficient use of the seal, don't get too far ahead of yourself.

Unless you really ARE implying that one of those seals would be better served on Mozu than Camilla - but that's just being as pedantic as you are with my argument.

>>144035591
Oh I agree, but that's the reality of shitposting here.

Let's be real - the Nilesfags are on the defensive, but degenerates can't be expected to behave any better.

The argument originally started because people were aruging Mozu was in no way efficient and then some shit-poster said "if you reclass her she's a better archer than Niles".

Like... What? What the fuck does that have to do with Mozu being kinda crappy.
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>mozu shitposting erupted out of nowhere
What. I'll just take the small, not dead last victory and duck out for a bit
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>>144036814
You don't. Every single person here has a different view of efficiency
At least LTC makes sense
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Post yfw your waifu is actually a good unit unlike those shitters like Mozu and Niles.
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>>144034281
Basically everything in http://pastebin.com/44yvRXtM is right, the Dark Mages in 8 are fucking pathetic and it's not hard at all for Mozu to take some kills off of them while Corrin and Silas go around tending to other things.

Eventually you have a pretty serviceable unmounted fighter, which granted in a game with wololo mounted fighters isn't saying much but she is still at least serviceable. Plus she can potentially Partner Seal Silas into Paladin after a while which if you're serious about using her isn't a terrible option.
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Mozu's beady little eyes! She looks like some sort of rodent-human hybrid!
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>>144036814
Where you waste all of your stat boosting items on Niles to make him good but refuse to use a single Heart Seal on Mozu.
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>>144036768
i beat chapter 10 lunatic conquest in the lowest possible turns, i know what i'm doing
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/feg/ for /feg/'s sake, explain Powersaves to me.
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>>144036694

The growths are better, but it's usually a difference of about 5% which won't even equate to an entire stat point on average. The only things that'd get a somewhat notable boost are HP and defense at 10%. I'm not saying reclassing her is bad, but I don't get why you need to do it immediately.
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>>144036402
But can't go back?
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>>144036656
Speed+Defense Seal is a nasty debuff combination, especially since the only requirement for it is being attacked. Spears are great for tanking because of Guard Naginata, but even if that's unavailable they're still a great weapon type for making it easier to hit swordmasters with and a good balance of power and accuracy.
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>>144035882
I'm Severa's bestest friend!
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>LTC
>efficiency
>in a game with RNG

I'd fucking hate to be the one whose run was killed by a 5% crit.
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>>144036901
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You shouldn't be using Niles offensively anyway, he's a utility like most thieves that should sweep up the weakened or pick off fliers/mages thanks to the fates build. Using him aggressively even after promoting is pretty dumb.
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>>144036825
Wait, so it's shitposting to say that Mozu is better than Niles as an Archer, but it isn't to say that she's "in no way efficient"?
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>>144037060
Just use another seal.
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>>144037016
Out of curiosity, is it even possible to end that map early?
Could you walk in there with a couple of grinded OP units and rout the enemy before reinforcements appear or will they just keep pouring in anyway?
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>>144036490
But what's the point of playing for efficiency if you're not going the whole 9 yards? And why do you all throw fits when anyone suggests also factoring in the tastes of those who would prefer playing without prepromotes, or playing without tonics, or playing defensively, or playing without pair up bots, or playing without royals, or playing without a dancer, or playing without letting any used characters not get married instead of only those who want to play not-quite-efficiently?
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>>144036901
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>Niles
>requires babying

What game are you people playing? The last time I recall using him he was killing fliers two times over. That is, doubling for full health each hit even with his shitty no-str level ups. That kind of reliability is hard to get.
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>>144037038
3DS Action Replay of sorts. You can only edit save files with it though. No real time stuff like a Moon Jump code in a Mario game or anything.

Its function for Fates is that you can give yourself max gold, resources, DV Points, and edit the items and skills of the first character. I've found it to be pretty useful.
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>>144027553
>ZoomZoom
>Archer with decent strength and Aptitude
>Amazing mother plus passes down Aptitude
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>Mozufags are STILL mad as hell despite getting a bump in the tier list and no longer being the worst unit.

Dumb ungrateful peasants. Give them an inch and they'll want a mile.
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>>144037140
It's making the argument seem like something it isn't in order to gain more credence.

The argument was never about if Mozu was a better archer than Niles, but the shit-posters were still using it as a prime example of Mozu not being kinda bad - which just makes no sense.

They then use the rage of Nilesfags as apparent "evidence" that people who believe Mozu is at best sub-par are just in denial.
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>>144036901
*sings u a song*
*cracks the top of every efficiency tier list*
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>>144037216
Edit Save Files? How is that different? Is it difficult?
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>>144037216
So you can't make a character change classes with powersaves?
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>>144037208
You mean missing fliers and then getting killed with his shit skill stat.
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>>144036036
Need to up the posting, my friend
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>>144036825
I'd argue against the use of the second heart seal on your servant due to chapter 12 stripping you out of the precious cinnamon rolls so you need the extra staffbot for healing unless you want to waste gold on vulneraries and concoctions.
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>>144037393
But her being a good archer IS evidence of her not being bad.
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Would Velouria be more then happy to chug your dirty semen?
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>>144036683
Her combat is good enough to carry her to the level needed for rally speed. Shigure isn't even needed for Endgame when Elise exists.
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>>144037362
>Nilesfags are STILL in denial that their husbando is worse than Mozu
wew
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>>144037205
Reminder that Azura is the only unit in the game that requires no resources to be useful, and with resources is easily the best Sniper or Ninja Master when those class options are made available to her.
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Manna is better desu
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>>144037106
i want to give camilla a good life where she can spend the rest of the day with her husband and child
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>>144037586
Your love is her greatest treasure so yeah
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>>144037656
Mozu can one hit folks without dying immediately to anyone with a ranged weapon thanks to Aptitude and 35 base defense growth; Azura cannot.
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>>144037421
It's different because like I said, there's no real time stuff. Action Replay loaded the codes into the system which get applied when you put the game cart in, changing the game state. But because of like, I guess updates and stuff, that's not so easily doable, so you can only edit whatever's already on the cart, and doing so requires an internet connection. It's not that hard though. Just a simple set up.

>>144037423
Unfortunately not. At most you can just give yourself a bunch of reclass items (though some are missing like the amiibo classes).
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>>144037656
>Top-tier efficiency
>Doesn't cuck you
>Gives you a big family
>Canon waifu

Is it really any wonder why she attracts so many bitter haters?
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I'm playing fire emblem 9 for the first time, and it seems like my options every map are

>Have titania solo half the enemy army
>Get everyone slaughtered because nobody else can survive the endless waves of enemies without her taking the focus

Am I doing something wrong?
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>>144037656
>not turning Azura into a Berserker
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>>144037434
Because having him attack at the risk of being killed is the best way to use him. Besides, Bow Knight's skl growth fixes that up quite nicely.
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GIVE MOZU PARAGON

WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THIS YET

ITS FREE
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I heard Odin has an unique samurai palette or sword palette. That's true? Because I feel a bit nostalgic with that and I hate him with that stupid clothes
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We all know Shura is the real mvp archer
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>>144037894
What chapter are you on?
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>>144037894
Yes
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>>144037850
Well that sucks, RIP my Female Generic dreams...Fem!Mechanist is cute.
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>>144037894
Use Titania to WEAKEN the enemies and then let others kill them.
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I got another hot and spicy unit debate for ya
SILAS VS. PERI
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>>144037716
Camilla isn't made for happiness. She's made for suffering.

>>144037876
Nice b8 m8
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>>144037983
>le boots man
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>>144037980
He has a unique Swordmaster palette, yes. It's ironic, since he starts as a Swordmaster in Awakening but is a better Sage instead, while here he starts as a Dark Mage
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>>144037983
>Implying Shura is anything more than a stinky pair of valuable footwear
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>>144037564
Hmm, you raise a good point - but that still in no way exonerates the idea of using the Seal on Mozu so my point remains unchanged.

>>144037573
It just isn't. Listen, saying Mozu is kind of a bad unit isn't the same as saying Mozu is the worst unit. She isn't.

But the argument that she makes a better archer than Niles IF YOU SEAL HER INTO AN ARCHER has nothing to do with whether she's a bad unit or not. It's a complete non-sequitur.
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>>144037952
Yeah. Just reclass to Dread Fighter and give her the guard naginata and flame shuriken my boi
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>>144038098
Xander.
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>>144037894
Titania is necessary for the Ilyana chapter thanks to how few units you have and 11 because it's stupid getting to the nw house otherwise, but Ike, Oscar, and Boyd can provide your other defensive needs up to the point you get Gatrie back at which point he can do the rest.
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>YOU ONLY NEED TO GIVE HER A FEW KILLS

>N-NO YOU ONLY NEED TO GIVE HER HALF OF HER MAP

>N-N-NO YOU ONLY NEED TO FEED HER ALL THE ENEMIES ON HER MAP

>N-N-NO YOU ONLY NEED TO TRADE HER A BOW, PARAGON, AND A SEAL AND FEED HER ALL THE ENEMIES ON HER MAP THEN BABY HER FOR THE NEXT FEW CHAPTERS
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Hmmmmm
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I'm planning on playing Conquest

Is using both Mozu and Niles a bad idea? Is more not the merrier?
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>>144038005
Well, females generic DO exist, too bad they don't have portraits.

>>144037564
>I'd argue against the use of the second heart seal on your servant due to chapter 12 stripping you out of the precious cinnamon rolls
Well, that only applies if you're playing as Femui.
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>>144037185
>But what's the point of playing for efficiency if you're not going the whole 9 yards?

To see how units actually compare to each other on a scale of gameplay with a clear objective in mind? What exactly is your perception of an efficiency list where that isn't in mind?

Efficiency as taken by most FE communities is there because it's one of the few where actual meaningful differences between units begin to arise, thus making it a more objective statement of who is better or worse. Without it you can literally claim anything about a unit's performance. I could claim Xander and Camilla are bottom tier units and Nyx is SS-tier without proof and you would be in no position to say otherwise because guess what, that's what subjectivity entails!

>playing without prepromotes, or playing without tonics, or playing defensively, or playing without pair up bots, or playing without royals, or playing without a dancer, or playing without letting any used characters not get married

You can play anything here efficiently. You're the one that's choosing not to.

I could kill off half of my team at random and still play efficiently with the goal of winning in mind, because guess what, most games are about winning and efficiency is about how the units you're given can contribute to that goal. It's not "you can only use these units", it's "these units contribute more when fielded". Again, stop twisting words to try and ignore it.
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>>144037989
only chapter 8

>>144038042
I understand how jeigans work but like, every single map is just dozens of armor knights and shit and if I dont have titania drawing fire everyone else just gets destroyed because they can't handle 6 units attacking them in a single turn

Is it just hard mode that has crazy enemy spawns?
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>>144037850
..Alright, that sounds better, thanks. I suppose I'll get one tomorrow, though I'm curious what "Editing" looks like, compared to pressing buttons to change things with the Action Replay.
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>>144037983
>People usually just kill him for his boots

A-at least he gets his chance to shine in Revelation!
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Honestly I think dlc is fair game. Not the three grind ones, of course, but if you're good enough to pick up that dlc class you want during the story you probably deserve it.
Castles are fucking busted though don't you dare
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>>144038167
How is it? Because some other unit needs that Heart Seal more? Camilla is fine until chapter 13, so aside from Corrin Mozu is arguably the character that makes the best use of it, especially when she ends up being carrying her weight really well.
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>>144038278
Ignore the shitposters. Using both is a good idea, especially for Chapter 10. Just keep in mind Mozu has trouble pulling her weight unless you get her to Level 5+ on her paralogue.
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>>144037952
>>144038179
You guys must be fucking joking.

>JUST GIVE HER EVERYTHING GUYS, ALL STAT ITEMS, RECLASS OPTIONS, BEST WEAPONS YOU HAVE

This does not make her a good unit. It's just pumping an average unit with a bunch of power items to make her usable holy shit why don't you guys get this.
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>>144037894
you need to tactics better
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>>144038327
Hard Mode in FE9 is still easy, we don't have Japanese Maniac. I'm sorry, you're just not too good with positioning, try to think things more carefully and position your units better. Only move them after seeing how the battle will play during enemy phase.
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>>144038278
More archers are always good. There's no real reason not to do it
Niles is better as a bow knight, but adventurer is good if you want an extra unit for staff shenanigans, and he does well with the shining bow
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>>144038131
Oh... I preffer him as Swordmaster because looks very gay on Fates
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>>144038358
Stinky skunk.
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>>144037820

She won't get one shot by magic or shurikens, which are the only things you should be placing either of them in the line of fire of if you're attempting to be strategically effective with them. Azura only requires an uncommonly used Partner seal for either of those reclass options thanks to starting in a special class, Mozu is going to need both a Master Seal and a Heart Seal, though that also means they don't compete for the same resources. But more importantly, if you plan on using both, neither has to overlap in class if you decide to make her a Ninja Master or keep her a Songstress, in fact if you Mozu is already a boss killer having her move twice might be almost as effective, if not more than having both a Ninja and a Sniper.
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>>144038238
wait, there's a house in the nw corner? What's in it? You are talking about the fog defend chapter right?
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>>144038480
I can't really position out of the corner I start every map in
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>>144038256
Peri kinda plump
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>>144038358
I joke about it, but I could never kill the stinky skunk man

I just can't bring myself to do it desu
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>>144038609
I mean how you position your units every turn, so that every only gets what they can handle and Titania doesn't end up sweeping all the kills.
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>>144038729
and I mean I get cornered by literally 15-20 units and the AI is programmed to beeline for whoever is weakest, so unless I send titania forward they just dogpile anyone else
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>>144038417
Wait, so before I proceed just let me confirm.

You ARE in fact arguing that it is efficient / close to optimal use to use one of your two seals on Mozu in order to make her an Archer.

Is this a fair take of your argument here?
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>>144037185
>factoring in the tastes of those who would prefer playing without prepromotes, or playing without tonics, or playing defensively, or playing without pair up bots, or playing without royals, or playing without a dancer, or playing without letting any used characters not get married

Any of these ways still have more efficient ways of being played than others and would still even have their own tier lists

You're welcome to not play efficiently but don't get pissy when people say your favourite units don't do well in efficiency
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>>144038356
It's pretty simple, you'll just have to open a lot of folders and click through stuff. You download a program from the Powersaves site, and you use it when you have the actual Powersave device plugged into your computer and your game cart plugged in.

And in the program, you simply click whatever you want to apply. Everything only applies to the first save file, first character listed in the roster. From there you can fill their inventory with almost any item. Any weapon you give will be +7, a max forge. You can also edit their skills, so there'll be a folder where you can change the first skill slot to any skill, second skill slot, and so on, up to the fifth skill slot.
It's not as daunting or difficult as it sounds though, it just boils down to clicking stuff in a program on your computer and applying that changes to your game save. It helps a LOT for saving time on forging weapons (because +7 weapons require the patience of a saint to acquire) and on supports (because the program stacks 35 Seeds of Trust into one item slot, five of those and that's a lot of Supports you can make).
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>>144038358
How do you even one turn Lunatic Conquest Endgame without two Pass users? Him and Niles being the ones, because I'm assuming you're not doing child paralogues.

Seriously, is it even possible?
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Is the child dlc out in North America yet? Haven't kept up with this general in months
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>>144037707
>Good save!
What does this mean?
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>>144038605
I'm talking about the chapter after the prison. There's three armored knights right in front of it and a thief heading there extremely quickly so you need Boyd and Titania to duo them so as to not die and kill enough to get in front of the house in time.
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>>144038882
You only need one Pass user to 1-turn Conquest endgame.
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>>144038867
I dunno, is it a fair take on your argument that it is inefficient to ever use the heart seal and that you should just leave it in your inventory?
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>>144038964
It means they caught themselves before they said something they might regret and salvaged the situation
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>>144038301
>it's "these units contribute more when fielded"

It's probably more "when fielded and used optimally"

Like I doubt Corrin would still be god tier if her alternate was Diviner or some shit
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>>144038882
Have you and Azura pair up with two fliers
Efficiently push up towards right out of the range of the staffers
Huddle on the right side and lure out the three riders that would have blocked your way
Azura and corrin ride out with the fliers and pray to god that whatever skills corrin has activates and you one-round takumi
Bonus points with rallies, tonics etc
That's how I did it with no rescue
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>>144039184
I said ONE turn.
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Is there an awakening FAQ?
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>>144039171
Fair enough, but the point still stands.
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>>144037185
Take this post to heart >>144038868
You are just redefining an 'efficient' play-through to better support you argument here - don't get so caught up in the language being used.

You know very well what most of us here are referring to when we mention an "optimal" or "efficient" play-through.

You can make good use of sub-optimal units with clever use of resources, they may even turn out not that much worse than if you were only using the best units.

What you cannot do is then turn around and shout SEE THIS UNIT IS OPTIMAL, that's not how it works.
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>>144038954
Currently 4/6 (5 later this week)

Next week should be the one with Mercer singing.
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>>144039307
This is just if you burned your rescues like an idiot
You get two on conquest right? Unless Dwyer comes with one but I don't remember
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>>144039184
>spoiling Conquest
>2 turn strat
>>>>>right side of the map
kys
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>>144038872
...Heh, alright, thanks!
Now, I'm trying to figure out something.. Whatever is going on.. here...
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=52377
Is entirely different hacking, correct?
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This is the face of a waifu you can believe in
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>>144039436
I know how to one turn endgame, but my setup takes two pass users and two rescue charges. I just wonder how you do so with only one pass user.
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Efficiency-related shitposting is best shitposting

It's the only kind that creates actual gameplay discussion in this cesspit
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>>144039520

But I only believe this girl will kill any servants I hire. And cook a good steak.
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>>144039520
She's shit and worst girl
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>>144039505
Correct. That kind of hacking is completely different and... to be honest, I don't know too much about it myself. I could be wrong but it's also probably all digital, while Powersaves deals with editing a physical cart (something that's important to note, so digital games can't work with Powersaves).
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>>144039463
>complaining about spoilers
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>>144039432
Thanx brah
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>>144038882
You can one turn with Adventurer Niles but depending on how much mov your bosskiller and Niles have it could take 1-3 rescue uses
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>>144038290
It's hilarious when you encounter Kinshi Knights with Archer skills, despite them being locked to men only when it's only based on generics.

>>144038449
Yep, using both is good for the early game is a good idea for chapter 10 and when Mozu hits level 10, she gets quick draw to become a delete button useful for getting rid of ninjas, subhumans, and fliers. Niles will retain his utility past Chapter 10, but his combat utility will drop off due to his less than stellar accuracy and power and instead take up a support role with captures and lockpicking and his daughter who would replace him for his former combat role.
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>>144038278

If your tactical preference is fielding more indirect units, using both as bows, and possibly even keeping Effie near one of them to make her a third bow user later wouldn't be a bad idea. If you prefer sending in your tanks to do everything combat related, you might not care for it as much, in which case Niles will probably only be fielded on maps with chests or particularly interesting enemies to capture and otherwise be replaced by Kaze who can tank magic just as effectively and not suffer from WTD so he'll actually hit mages and swordies more easily. Even if you're not capturing shit with him he'll be useful for magic or flier heavy maps until you can replace him with his daughter, assuming you go for that option and marry a mage or Camilla, not that you can't use both, they do get support bonuses near each other after all.

With the sheer amount of RNG in this series, there's a lot of decisions that are up to personal preference, and the games usually offer ways to work around that when necessary.
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>>144039095
You're just straw-manning by targeting specific examples rather than refuting the point, just stop, you had some pretty good points but you're losing the plot.

Either your argument IS that use of one of the two early seals on Mozu to turn her into an archer is the best use of your resources or it ISN'T.

Please clarify before trying to derail the argument - and don't go playing that "you define if your argument is X first" shit.
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>>144039520
Will she believe in me?
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Someone be a good chap and post that pasteover meme of camilla and corrin from that episodes game
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>>144039762
>and the games usually offer ways to work around that when necessary

Unless it's Lunatic Awakening, in which case you're the game's bitch.
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>>144039840
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>>144039880
>Unless it's Lunatic Awakening, in which case you're the game's bitch.
Please, all it takes is lowmanning. The less units you use, smoother the curse.

Robin with Chrom in her pocked and there you go.
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I want to make babies with Takumi
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>>144040001
You still need good levelups on Robin early on though, like it doesn't make much of a difference if all of her levels were +1 or something.
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>>144039775
I thought it was obvious that I was saying using one of those two early Heart Seals on her was the best use of it? All you do is scream efficiency but you aren't really defining what that is beyond "It's inefficient to use a heart seal on Mozu!"

What it really comes down to is whether you want to make an investment into her early in exchange for a great unit later (not that much later in my experience), or stick with the character (Niles) that doesn't need the investment for an average unit later.
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>>144040039
ew
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>>144040001

Not necessarily. I still believe there's no possible way to make Ricken good.
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>>144040160
>rescue was 5 uses and had an unlimited stock

those were the days
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>>144040160
Man Awakening looks ugly as fuck.
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>>144038358
>Dat Femui ass
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>>144039367
Wait, are you arguing that any sort of play short of manually escorting every unit on every map to get safely killed by another unit or just blindly making decisions without consulting either yours or the enemy's stats is "efficiency"? Because my Conquest playthrough did neither except half a chapter of the former and still saw Mozu as one if it's most valuable units.
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>>144040309
I don't know how you got that from what he said
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>>144040273
the thing i miss is that it said who you were married to at the bottom and who your kids were
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Alright, so who are the most efficient units in FE6 if you prefer playing without prepromotes or relying on any unit to dodge a single attack throughout the entire playthrough in order to survive?
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>>144039880
Lunatic Awakening's work around is blatant cheating through DLC map abuse, since they attempt to make actual grinding near suicidal(I still managed to get a few skirmishes done but only by feeding MU all the exp). Birthright is a bit less of an asshole about that and while its units still have better stats(and their actual class skills, hell, ANY SKILLS AT ALL) in skirmishes, they're not overleveled stat monsters and you can deal with their shit as long as your group's levels are about the same. Conquest doesn't have grinding outside of Boo Camp(which is still horrible and annoying for it), but you get plenty of money and items to work with, worst case you can wait for your Lilith to shit enough gold bars to forge some better irons or something, though that's going to take a longass time.
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>>144040474
Same.
If anything that not being in Fates shows how late the child characters were shoehorned.
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>>144040160
>lvl 1 sage
>53 hp

Ahhhh, back when HP was pretty much a free level up.
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>>144040539
Clearly Lot :^)

No it's still Miledy and Rutger
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>>144040678

You think that's after promoting? Think again, it was after a reclass. He was so shit as a Dark Knight I went to Sage at 10 to try to salvage him. It didn't work.
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>>144040806
>Dark Knight level 7
>A in tomes
The days when weapon ranks were awarded like candy! I'd feel nostalgic for this piece of shit if Awakening wasn't so shit.
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>>144040539
You're still going to use Dieck, Miledy and Rutgar the most, with Thany carrying people around, Clarine using her staff rank on Mend/Recover and Alan/Lance/Shin galloping around killing shit. Lalum is probably going hang around dancing and carrying items, Chad/Astol provide the usual thief utility and can't promote anyhow.

In other words, mostly the same people you'd prefer to use outside of Percival, Kleine/Igrene and early Marcus.
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>>144040137
>What it really comes down to is whether you want to make an investment into her early in exchange for a great unit later (not that much later in my experience), or stick with the character (Niles) that doesn't need the investment for an average unit later.
Stop trying to make this about Mozu vs Niles. It was never about Mozu and Niles. You're straw-manning again.

You seem dead set on trying to find an example to sink your teeth into so here, be as pedantic as you wish:

Seal use on Jakob.

See if you can get Mozu a level in her recruitment chapter via clean-up or whittling down the boss.

Deploy her in chapter 8 with tonics and a pair-up if you really want to make use of her.

The price of a few vulinaries a few chapters later is a much better price to pay than the early seal on a unit that only ends up ok.
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>>144040539
>>144040694
>>144041295

L I L I N A
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>>144039662
wAIT
sO CAN I GIVE LISSA IGNIS IN AWAKENING.
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>>144041641
Yes.
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Friend took up an extra save file he won't use. Is there any way to make it "empty" again without wiping my data entirely?
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In a hypothetical hack where player-controlled units had a 0% chance to dodge, crit, or proc skills, which Myrmidons besides Ryoma would still be worth using?
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>>144041629
Lilina takes a while to get going, she can hit decently after a bit though I guess.
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>>144040309
Now you're just being desperate.

I've already acknowledged that you can make Mozu work if you invest in her and get lucky with level-ups.

But this is the case for pretty much every average unit that isn't crippled by a terrible join-time.

It does not make her a good unit, or a high tiered unit.
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Nohr Noble does things to my dick.
I really wish there was a way to remove the cape permanently for both versions.
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>>144041849
literally 80+ hit rate against units several levels above her every single time I play if you give her roy support, which can get to rank 2 within a couple maps
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>>144041778
Just delete the save from the opening menu.
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>>144041365
Seal use on Jacob means no healer for 12 which means you're forced to hang around the avatar just in case you use up the vulneraries. And you sure as hell don't want to deal with Saizou and Kagerou with fragile Niles and prone to crits Arthur.
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https://twitter.com/aisutabetao/status/737593731738521600
>waterfag artist drawing flora next
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>>144042412
>Shit artist draws shit waifu

Nobody cares
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>Nu fire emblem has removed the challenging maps, perma-death and end game ranking that encouraged you to actually play smart and get good at the game instead of grinding

>So it could be a poor mans final fantasy tactics/husbandry simulator
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>>144042250
Haha, I knew you'd just go straight to trying to pick it apart instead of sticking to your argument.

Ok, let's grant all the possible repercussions of Seal use on Jakob - even having to buy some extra vulinaries because we get super unlucky and have to use some extra.

You think that sealing Mozu asap is the downright best decision for all playthroughs and it her inclusion in this chapter is going to make all the difference?
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>>144008957
>tharjafag behind all the cuck shitposting
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>>144042250
Saizo and Bad Girl are dealt with cleanly by Camilla. She doesn't ORKO them so you can even feed your other units exp once Camilla softens them up.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/4lpy9y/favorite_ghostly_gold_prebattle_quotes/d3p87xa
Thank you, treehouse
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>>144042676
And no one was surprised.
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Looking through the game files, and there's a unique Wyvern Rider texture for Scarlet.

Has anybody who can hack tried demoting her and seeing if this is actually used?
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>>144042859
>challenging DLC brings back Scarlet
>LoliScarlet as a Wyvern Rider
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>>144042676
Man, I don't give a shit about the cuckposting and I wish it would stop too, but if given the opportunity, I'd do Flora/Jakob, Scarlet/Ryoma, and Cordelia/Chrom all day.
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>>144042625
No, I just think that it's a bad idea to seal your servant that early and if you want to seal them should save the seal for after that chapter when Elise returns to the roster. Unless you want to waste the master seal on Niles early just to get another staffbot just for that chapter.
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>>144041365
I never promote either of the servants before they can get tome breaker, it's a waste to not get it as early as possible if you don't intend to go back to Butler later.

The stat difference from staying in Villager over a quick Archer reclass isn't too big, it's fine to wait until chapter 10 to reclass if you want to try to grab Underdog first or stick in it for the long haul for whatever reason, in which case I'd go Merchant first so you can start building bow rank and grab Profiteer to make any reclassing more cost effective. Villager's lance rank only gets to C though, which can be annoying if you actually to end on Merchant, or god forbid Kinshi Knight, as you'll need to grind up to that B rank. Beast Killers at least will be about as effective as bows on most of Hoshido's fliers, and Javelins aren't a great indirect option but still better than nothing and allow for controlled damage if you're trying to train another unit or something. She's not going to be as immediately effective in combat as a Villager as she would as an Archer but, it's workable.
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>>144042794
I agree with the sentiment but their flowery-ass translation isn't really faithful either
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>>144015245
My dad fathered his own little sister.

My mom is also my aunt.
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>>144042775
I don't want to risk Camilla's stats when I want the Secret Book the Lobster carries.
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>>144042085

How do I do that? Doesn't that wipe all my daa?
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>>144043341
No, wipe all data is an option under "extras". The main menu should have "delete save" which you can use to delete an individual file or bookmark. Names might be different since I'm using the fan translation, though.
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>>144043336
The debuffs literally do not matter.
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>>144036901
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>>144042412
Neat. Any idea when it'll be done?
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>>144043102
Why do you keep saying "your servant, your servant" when you only mean Jakob? Strategist Felicia would still be a staffbot.
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>>144043097
I don't believe your lies.

I didn't know why everyone hated you but now I do.

I thought you were cool, man.
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Fire tribe, ice tribe, or wind tribe?
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>>144043827
Wind Tribe, easily
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>>144042859
Looks identical to the standard
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>>144043867
Boo. I wonder why those textures are still in the files, then. Same character ID number as her Wyvern Lord outfit, too.
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>>144043827
Wind desu
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>>144040039
I want to put a Kana in Sakura
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>>144044001
Reminds me of those Carl Brutananadilewski edits.
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>>144043827
>Be Wind Tribe
>Party hard with your whirlwinds and tornadoes while Fire Tribe users struggle to cap strength and Ice Tribe users die to Garon
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>>144039775
I thought it was obvious that I was saying using one of those two early Heart Seals on her was the best use of it? All you do is scream efficiency but you aren't really defining what that is beyond "It's inefficient to use a heart seal on Mozu!" She can get all the kills she needs in her paralogue and chapter 8.

What it really comes down to is whether you want to make an investment into her early in exchange for a great unit later (not that much later in my experience), or stick with the character (Niles) that doesn't need the investment for an average unit later.
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>>144043512
Against Lunatic Lobster they will. S-rank swords/Vantage/Gaijin Killer is a painful combo to deal with.

>>144043672
Mamui has that freedom, but Femui doesn't. And I intend to run F!Corrin in her canon path, so Jacob's stuck as a butler until after the end of that Chapter.
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>give kagero to arthur
>headcanon that kagero's lack of presence is due to arthur's luck

kagero dindu nuffin, she a good girl
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>>144043102
Alright well that clarifies things up a bit.

>>144043192
I honestly think leaving her in Villager for a bit is fine. She has to be babied during her early chapters anyway and the seal has a myriad of other uses, though I will concede the hassle of having to go back to butler later if you aren't about that life.

I have to keep mentioning it because people think I'm just hating on Mozu, I'm not. She's usable with investment and that investment isn't too difficult to do, especially if you baby her through her recruitment chapter.

No-one here is arguing that she can't perform once you get her self-sufficient.

However she has very low bases and has to be funneled exp to get good, sometimes it can be even into mid-game chapters before she starts pulling her weight.

This just isn't how a universally good unit performs, it doesn't matter how shitty Niles is by comparison at this point in the game - he's not a great a unit himself.
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>>144044189
We don't think you're a cuck, we just know you don't love your waifu.
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>>144044189
>[...] I get called a cuck so god damn often, I'm [...] gonna [...] call others that

>[...] if you wanna marry Kagero I'm [...] gonna say "lol" enjoy getting cucked by Ryoma"
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>No male Lancer or Oni Savage in Hoshido
>We get a shit ton of Sky Knights and people that can reclass into Sky Knights instead
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>>144043864
>>144044001
>implying you are worthy
I hear the fire tribe invites the weak, they'd be more your style
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>>144044456

Takumi and Hinata ;)
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>>144044456
Shiro, bro
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>>144044468
If a loser like Hayato is considered a prodigy, I'm pretty sure we would be more than welcome in.
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>>144044394
>remember that Ryomas support with Kagero has her working extra hard to avoid facing her feelings for him
>makes sense in the ending that they're both too serious and into their work to be together intimately
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>>144044601
It's a simple question man.

Yes or no.
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>>144044592
Oh yeah, forgot about him. I wish the 2nd gens weren't so forgettable.
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>>144043510
Thanks anon. My OCD is satiated.
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>>144043827
>Be Fire Tribe
>Party hard with your fire and bronze weaponry while Wind Tribe users get beat up by some dragon royalty and Ice Tribe users die to Garon and self-immolation
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>>144044695
Yes or no to what?
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>>144044598
Fair point
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>>144044854
>>144044854
>>144044854

Mozumigrate
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>>144044770
Would you love Tharja if she were blessed with the ability to lay eggs.
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>>144044872
>Mozufag mad because his waifu is shit and makes early threads
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>>144044918
>blessed
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>>144044918
what do you think Tharja's eggs would smell like haha
asking for a friend haha
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so hey, the servants of anankos all get possessed through a lingering sentiment

takumi is controlled by his feelings of envy and rage over betrayal
sumeragi is consumed by his lust for battle
mikoto is filled with lament and despair for never being able to spend time with corn
arete lost all semblance of character lel

garon, meanwhile, is driven by the desire to conquer the entire world. we're told by xander that the real garon would never have wished that, but what if it was xander who never really knew garon? even gooron scoffs at xander and asks what he knows of garon. maybe garon really was just a dick who wanted everything in the world, he just stopped hiding it.
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>no longer posting in this thread because the bump limit scares and moving to a new thread annoys you
grow up faggot; here's a bump.
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>>144045065
Tharja would use the eggs as part of her hexes
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>>144045320
Sumeragi and Mikoto were dead when controlled by Anankos
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>>144045320
Well, we'll never know since we never got to see the real Garon even in the family reunion filled 3rd route, now will we?
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>>144045496
they're all dead, pal
the only one who's not dead when being controlled were takumi and gunter
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Will the Roy and Corrin amiibos ever have functionality in Fates? Give me (You)s with your hot opinion.
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>>144045320
The real Garon was pretty cold as far as leaders go but he knew when to stop.

Nohr is a barren shit hole and Garon only extorted and conquered other lands for the sake of feeding his people as best he could.
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>>144045641
No.
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>>144045727
speaking of which, felicia offhandedly mentions to takumi that the ice tribe's lands are abundant in many different shiny stones. from that you can extrapolate that garon conquered the ice tribe for their ore supply, to make weapons and armors for his troops.
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>>144043827
Ice tribe.

It has the qt meidos
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>>144045641
I hope so
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>Raijinto - 1-2 range sword that doesn't rely on Mag for a physical unit, +4 Str when carried on an already dodgy hard hitter
>Siegfried - another 1-2 range sword that doesn't rely on Mag for a physical unit, +4 Def when carried on an already tanky hard hitter
>Fujin Yumi - negates terrain effects on a unit who's supposed to have less liberty in movement, +10 Avo (and +2 Res) on a already fast and dodgy unit, Mt almost as high as a fucking B-rank Silver Bow with no penalties after usage.
>Brynhildr - +10 Crit Evade, has as much Mt as Fimbulventr (which comes 5 chapters ealier) but no Spd penalty. However, it's only usable by a unit that's slow as balls, who can't double most enemies, has a chance to halve magic damage receive based on Skl on a blind unit with barely any Skl who has little trouble dealing with magic users because of high Res.

Why does IS hate Leo so much?
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>>144046610
at least it's one of the more memorable spell animations
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>>144046610
Brynhildr has 2 more mt than fimbulventr and only 1 less mt than nohr's silver equivalent. But yeah there's no denying it's the worst royal weapon.
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>>144039941
Thanks!
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>>144046673
>spawns a tree
>not called yggdrasil, despite all the already existing norse mythos names
>>144047303
>>144047303
at least he gets a royal weapon. Poor sisters.
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>>144048705
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brynhildr
>The history of Brynhildr includes fratricide, a long battle between brothers, and dealings with the Huns.
Hot damn.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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