/twg/ - Total War General

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>five days since the release of TW:WH
>still no mod to give Estalia a Spanish aesthetic
>still no mod to give Tilea an Italian aesthetic
>still no mod to give Kislev a Slavic aesthetic

>>143808657
But we have this

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-%28Released-30-5-2016%29&p=14991417#post14991417

>Black Archer Boys
>Dismounted Blood Knights

The memes are real boys

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>BLACK ARRER BOYS

>>143808642
Witch Hunters is the one reason I want to play empire

>>143808543
>There will never be a Total War: War of the Grand Alliance

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>>143808543
Witch hunters really strong. Maybe 4-5 in real army comp.

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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-%28Released-30-5-2016%29&p=14991417#post14991417

Let's keep being upset

>BLACK ARRER BOYZ(Gyrocopter)

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>>143808683
>Radious

>>143808683
How long until
>Skeleton Archers
>Catapult (Skulls)

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In for knocking the wind out of giants before slicing their Achilles with slayers.

Dwarfs confirmed best race.

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>>143808683
>>143808839

>mfw Radious actually gets his unit ideas from /twg/

WHEN A MEME GOES TOO FAR

>>143808891
Fuck off stunties.
Go home to Eight Peaks
Oh wait, you lost that to rats and goblins.

>>143808709
>Arrer Boyz EVER crumpin enuff gits to grow into black orcs
Wat da zog
Why do they keep making this garbage

>>143808868
When Tomb Kings are added.

>>143809065
What about black savage orcs

>>143808868
>Not Catapult(zombies)

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>There will never again be a release of oldschool oil paintings

The age of photoshop has done much good, but also evil

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Looks like Karl's taken a different approach in army building after his defeat by Sigvald...

level with me. i'm a shitter at total war, and so far ranged cavalry is fucking my ass.

I tried countering with my own ranged cavalry, but the fucking things either stands still and gets shot to shit without hitting anything, or (with skirmish enabled) they run away from the enemy cavalry since it charges them and then a shootout occurs but my units still lose, even though i have 2 against 1 for example.

So what the fuck. Do i just eat bullets for days?

>>143808902
Well while he's doing that:
Give Orks some fucking gun units
I don't care if they are the exact same as the Arrer Boyz and just use the empire gunners animations or something, I want my pirate themed Greenskin lord to roam the southern coast popping off with the independant lords

Also I found out after hunting for like 8 turns for a ship-bound enemy that naval warfare is auto only
I am upset

>>143808839
Black Orc Wolfriders when?

>>143808902
in which case

>dismounted Bretonnian pistolier knights

>>143808683
>Black Arrer Orcs
Not only is it a memetastic unit but THE ARROWS FLOAT

>>143809219
Too busy playing basketball

Does "Vigour loss reduction" mean that your troops get less tired?

If so is there ever a reason to not take obstinacy on your combat lords?

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>>143809252
But so too has Archaon adapted his army comp! We'll see if black knights can take down

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>>143809238

Amen to that

BASED RADIOUS HAS DONE IT AGAIN

WILL THE MADMAN STOP HIS RAMPAGE EVER?

WILL NO ONE BE SAFE?

WHATS NEXT, WHATS UP, YOU DECIDE

HELLO YOUTUBE WHAT THE CRAP IS GOING ON, IT'S ME YA BOY PRINCEOFMACEDONCARTHAGELIONHEARTOAKLEY HERE AND IM ABOUT TO TEST OUT RADIOUS EPIC MOD

UP FIRST WE HAVE THE UNDEAD ORC CHAOS BLOOD KNIGHTS (MOUNTED ON GYROCOPTERS) WITH THE MARK OF NURGEL

>>143809252
>I don't need an army
>just 20 good men

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>Quarreler Slayers w/ Great Weapons
>Ironbreaker Slayers

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>>143809496
i want a mod that makes these into loading screens

Anyone getting/have a GTX 1080?

Please share how the performance is with TW:W.

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I WANT A VAMPIRE GF

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>>143809386

>>143809427
Yes. It's pretty amazing being able to sprint into battle and still be able to run down your broken winded enemies

Quotes by Radious
"I came, I saw, I modded"

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Let's play Guess The Next Radious unit;

>Demigryph Pistoliers
>Reiksguard Cannons
>Gunnery School of Nuln Outriders (Helstorm Rocket Battery (heavy cavalry)
>Dismounted Demigryph Knight Demigryphs (heavy monstrous infantry)
>Black Orc Doomdiver
>Chosen Chaos Cavalry Great Weapons

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Quick reminder.

I wonder who's getting fired for this.

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>>143809636
>those veiny titties

>Archeon shows up
>Karl Franz is still in Dawrven territory fighting Orcs for his stupid quest

Welp

>>143809678
*memed*

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>>143809571
>tfw night gobbos dont get their own faction

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>>143809536
5/5

>>143809736

Darren hopefully.

>>143809720
Goblin Jetpacker

>>143809720
>>143809536
>>143808839
>>143808683
>>143809269
>>143808902


Look this retarded LOL RADIOUS MADE A FAHNNY UNIT XD meme has run its course, its dry, its stale and stop posting this unfunny meme, it was funny the first time but now its just fucking boring and tiresome

I want the redditors to leave

>>143809263

please help ;-;

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>>143809297
This post gave me dishonor

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Daaaaaaaamn

>>143809263
well there is two ways you can deal with it. Chase em, which sucks.
Ignore them until the main army is broken, once they start running then, the fight is over.

There are a few speed mods for chaos marauders that should allow you to chase the skirmishers down.

But, I hater skirmishers, anything that skirmishers should have a speed penalty, so they can be targeted by cav, they need to toggle skirmish to run away at full speed.

>>143809596
>How well does the absolute top of the line gpu perform in a well optimized strategy game
It performs well.

>>143809736
fired over what?

>>143809838
>Mounted Witch Hunters (Shock Cavalry)

>>143809838

Radious really does visit /twg/

>>143809720

>Black Orc Doomdiver

I kinda want this just for funs sake

That or a Grimgor Doomdiver

>>143809891
>>143809849

Really makes ya thinka huh

>>143809838
Sup Radious

>>143809838
Spotted the Radious modder.

>>143809838
Hi radious

>>143809263
Use foot archers
Cav archers are less accurate and fewer in number than foot archers, their advantage is mobility and charge
Pair them up with a spear unit so they can protect the archers in case the cav decide to rush. In this case shielded spears are better than pikes/halberds, because they can block some of the arrows

>>143809838
>LOL RADIOUS MADE A FAHNNY UNIT XD
What are you talking about?
I don't see anything like 'funny' or wrong with the units he made, beside the arrows being a bit fucked on the archers.

>>143809939
I'd like to know the specifics like resolution, actual fps numbers etc.

>>143809947
Leaving the mockup map for the entire trilogy in the game's files.

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So is the general skill tree necessary for every faction's general? For empire at least, buffing spearmen, halberdiers, and swordsmen with +12/+12 is enormous. Dwarfs have a stamina boost im not sure how good that is.

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>>143809838
t. radious

>>143809838
Where were you when Radious visited /twg/ anon?

I was here, minding my business until the Demigryph Mounted Witch Hunters (Metal lore) attacked

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>>143809536

>>143810067
Unless you're playing at 4k, you'll be getting whatever fps your monitor refresh rate allows.

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>>143809297

>Dismounted Questing Knights

Dishonourable as fuck.

>>143809838
>Dismounted Peasant Grail Knights w/ Great Weapons (Shock Infantry)

>>143810048
Adding on to this the other option if there are tons of them is take your cavalry and cast a super wide net, like go all the way around and to the back of the horse archers, then close them all in and force them to the center. If you do it right you should have a good angle to catch the enemy at

>>143809297
dismounted bretonnian outrider boar grail knights

calling it now

>>143808683
how does he do it

Is it worth getting Archeon his horse?

>>143810182
Is 60hz vs 144hz a big difference?

I never understood what hz does. From what I read before, only people that play FPS games will feel it.

>>143810293
Least work
Notice how the one with a single colour change retexture wasn't even made by him?

>>143810321
He looks silly on it desu

>>143810079
If anything that will get people more hyped and ready to give CA all of their money.

At least that's the effect it had on me.

>>143808683
>first response is some praising the unit someone else made that he just stuck in the mod
>he gave credit for it but no link to anything

How far do you guys recon his head is up his own ass?

>>143809838
Is this a new /twg/ exclusive meme pasta?

>>143810321
yes. just dismount him wheen you siege casttles so he can go to walls.

Do you gain unit XP when autoresolving?

>>143810383
Don't start this shit please.

Post your face when Creative Assembly hire Radious as their new head of content

>>143810536
yes

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>>143810539

>>143809736
what will lizardmen boats look like?

>>143809596
780 TI here, stock clocked

everything on ultra except
anti-aliasing turned off
texture filtering down to trilinear

game runs very smooth
60+ fps at 1080p

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>>143810539

>>143809736
So an expansion for the west and one for the south + east.

West will probably be first because ELVES.

>>143810536
Just like every other title, yes.

>>143810598
>boats
plebs, flying temple cities ftw

>>143810598
afaik giant plesiosaurs/mosasaurs

>>143810538
What? I'm genuinely asking.

I'm upgrading soon and the things I'm looking to change are my video card and monitor. I mostly play TW games which is why I'm asking here. I don't mean to start anything and I'm not even sure what you're referring to.

Soon the Greatswords will be given spears(Empire lacked elite tier spears) and the Reiksguard will take the role of Greatswords.

Coming soon at Radious.

>>143810383
Some people can't feel the difference between 60 and 120 fps, most people can, though it's subtle. The difference between 60 and 120 fps "feeling" wise is marginal, compared to the jump from 30 to 60, if that's what you're asking.

Dwarves, Orcs or Vamp Counts for my next campaign?

Leaning towards Dwarves, no Cav could be interesting.

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>>143810539
At least somebody would be making stuff for the game without trying to jew you

>>143810756
No real point in going for 144hz just for TW.

Just go for maximum graphics.

>>143809736
They already said that all races and the whole map is going to be in future expansions. Its not like it a secret.

>>143810776
Do you feel it's worth it to go for a 144hz monitor?

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Anyone know what the unit rank on lords and heroes does? Is it a flat stat boost? I also don't get how they get it since they have no xp bar for unit rank besides their overall level.

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>>143808683
And Radious immediately goes for removing all faction weaknesses.

>>143810756
You'll hear a dozen arguments in either directions, it's a shitpile of a topic. Just look up some visual examples and decide for yourself.

>>143810859

He's the hero TOTAL WAR deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hate him. We'll meme him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Black KNIGHT (Mounted on Demigryph) (Shock artillery)

>>143810539
WITCH HUNTER STEAM TANKS (MOUNTED)

>>143810771
Demigryph Crossbowmen (Vanguard Deployment, Armour Piercing Missiles, Good Range)

>>143811029
dwarf boar riders when

>>143809838
>Dismounted Steam Tank Halberdiers w/ Greatswords (Shock Infantry)

>>143811000
No in total war. Yes in fps. It all comes down what you prefer and are you willing to commit 300 dollar in screen.

For you id say no. If you ask is it worth it it prob is not worth it for you.

>>143811131
For early game balance™

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genuine question
how do you start off the orc campaign on legendary?

so far every try ends with blue dwarfs forming a confederation with the purple dwarfs at turn 9-10

then five full fucking armies of dwarfs head down south and literally rape my shit at turn 12-15

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>>143809736
naval battles are gonna be great

>>143811131
>He's the hero TOTAL WAR deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hate him. We'll meme him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Black KNIGHT (Mounted on Demigryph) (Shock artillery)

holy shit I'm dying here, upvoted

>>143811220
>>143811060
k thank you.

Do I need to level growth as a dorf for tunneling?

>>143811008
I've never seen a unit rank on my lords and heroes before

>>143811008
I think it does the same as for regular units.

Which is give 1 point in a couple stats per rank.
Or maybe it does nothing.

>>143811280

Why does the Empire have a cuckship?

Awright ya gitz, s'time ter lern 'ow ter be a propa Orc. Lotsa ya dumb 'uumies donz know 'ow ter spell WAAAGH! so I'm goin' ter lern ya 'ow. Furst iz a W (koz we'z da bestest). Den ya put 3 A'z loike dis AAA (koz datz 'owa enemies sound wen they see us, yeah?). Next iz a G (fer Gork an Mork). Last iz an H (koz weez 'ard as nails). End it wif a ! an add more da biggur yer WAAAGH! iz.
I've seen ya dumb gitz writin' WAAAHG, WAAARGH, WAAGH, WAAAAAG, an more. Ugh ya make me sikk. I oughdda smash yer 'ed in. From nows on if yer goin' ter WAAAGH! du it propa an WAAAGH!!!

>>143808902
Iron Man (War Machine)

>>143811008
>that unit-size

How can people bear not playing on Ultra?

>>143811471
what the fuck does that even mean you braindead memelord

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Who's the cutest Legendary Lord, /twg/?

>>143809212
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Screaming_Skull_Catapults

Indeed, they are a Thing in older editions (I.E. what this game is based on) of Warhammer Fantasy.

More options for units like spears, and generally speaking, a variety of stuff for elites, is also a thing.

Black Orcs actually had, in more recent editions the "Armed to Da Teef" rule, which let them have ALL THE WEAPONS and switch, so they could use two handed weapons OR a Choppa, or Two Choppas, or if they bought a shield too, Choppa and shield.

Which would be too complicated, but you could argue for at least two kinds, anyhow. Great Weapons, and Choppa and Shield.

>>143811556
I did a large unit size once, it was terrible. I don't know how people do it with small or normal.

>>143809736
If that's real, this game is going to be pretty tiny when it's done.

The current map really feels small, and look at that tiny babby ulthuan.

>>143811618
Attila

>>143811380
Add a hero that has the training ability (exp per turn) to an army and they start ranking up.

Probably an oversight.

1-2 continue orcs
3-6 continue vamps
7-0 dwarfs

>>143811618
the chaos one

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>>143811556
I would if I could. My computer is 5 years old and runs the game at 30 fps on low with it dropping to 4-8 fps when I end turn. Ultra would make me have 15 fps in battles.

>>143811440
>>143811380
I think it has to due with this but I am not sure if this is a bug or not as I can't tell what the effect is.

>>143811727
It's definitely real. You can open up PFM and head to it right now.

data.pack/campaign_maps/warhammer_map_1/wh_main_lookup.tga

>>143811556
>play on ultra as vamps
>my spells do fuck all to the large numbers of units
>my monsters do fuck all
>my cavalry does fuck all

I prefer ultra but it's unlivable if you aren't playing with traditional tw armies

>>143811790
It's 100% due to that.

The skill is fairly garbage though
>max ranked it takes over 200 turns to to rank up a unit from 7 to 9

>>143809763
You know, you can teleport to quest location

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kOrkScience/

what the fuck, I literally discovered a subreddit where people are roleplaying as orks

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>>143811618

>>143811727
>tiny babby ulthuan

It's almost the size of the entire Empire.

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>>143811618

>>143811254

You have to abuse waagh, so keep sacking the same settlement until you get one, raiding camp etc

>>143811589
The thing in the center you retard redditor

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>>143811618
Cerea

>>143812197
just accept you're a fucking idiot

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>>143811618
Karl Franz

>>143812027
Not that poster, but it isn't the quest battle. You have to fight a number of armies, any armies; owned by the greenskins before you get the quest battle itself.

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>>143812197
Do you mean the little ship with like a fireball on the sail?
What do you think 'cuck' means?

>>143811996
I got it for early game when units didn't rank fast. Wish I could respec without having to level up a new hero.

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>>143811618

Karl, easily

What's wrong with Black Arrer Boyz? Is it because Black Orcs aren't pussies?

>>143812197
cuck is literally a reddit meme at this point mate.

>>143812058
Sounds cool, you should go there and not come back :)

>>143812347
Oh okay, didn't play empire yet.

>>143812351
>Do you mean the little ship with like a fireball on the sail?
>like a fireball
>FIREBALL
It's a comet you fucking philistine.

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Why is this dingdong bee-lining to me when he has bigger probs?
legendary is a dick

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>be dawi
>unite the silver road easily
>push down to try and rid myself of the greenskin menace
>get attacked by border princes
>pull out of the badlands to deal with them
>more of a nuisance than anything, easily crush their armies and negotiate a peace at the cost of a sizable amount of their gold
>go back to hammering the orks
>pushing slowly out each way, have made a confederacy with barak varr or whatever the one by the sea is
>all the sudden, 4 ork 20stacks come knocking at my door.
>i have a full army and a half army to defend with
>win against 2 of them, but the 3rd manages to slip past and start raiding the silver road while the 4th defeats one army
>severely crippled thorgrim trys to rally his broken forces against 2 ork armies
>they start a waaagh
>mfw

any tips on how to stop these vile greenskins?

>>143812351

>doesnt know what a comet is
>tries to use the le ebin tumblr meme

kek

>>143812564
A comet is technically a fireball.

>>143811556
I don't play ultra cause magic doesn't scale up.

>>143812378
Because in the Orc society an Orc that isn't a melee god, won't survive long enough to become a Black Orc.

>>143812663
Anon...

>>143812630
this is some damage control memeing from you

>>143811556
Wait I thought smaller units was more epicly satisfying and everyone wanted it?
have I been wrong to go tiny?

>eh ill auto resolve this last templehof battle and finish them off
>varghulf goes down to 50 hp

Holy fuck that was close

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>>143812663
>A comet is technically a fireball.

>>143812378

>the biggest, meanest, strongest, and most brutal of all the Greenskins
>Black Orcs consider themselves the ultimate Greenskin warrior
>since they are the best fighters, the Black Orcs receive the lion's share of the loot after battle and being militaristic and spartan in nature, Black Orcs would find anyway to either improve on their combat skills or to appear bigger or meaner as they possibly can.

>Radious gives them bows and arrows

>>143812623
E's gots t' get stuk in m8

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>>143812626
Ironbreakers

>>143812663
>ball of ICE hurtling through space
>technically a fireball
I bet you think electricity is made out of water too.

>>143808642
Yeah. Witch Hunters are one of the couple Empire troops that's making them retardedly broken currently

>>143812750

Not an argument

>>143812058
the relationship one that's at the top of all time for that sub is funny
rest seems eh

>>143812663
>Literally made of ice
>FIREball

5/5 bait tho

What's your chaos campaign army compositions? I was running Archaon with a full stack of Chosen + Knights with demonic support until I stopped questing and hired kholek and sigvald to begin my invasion. Then I realized even a few demons or chosen in any army that isn't Archaon's is going to bleed me the fuck dry in 10 turns if I'm not constantly sacking rich targets.

>>143812797
>>143812883
The tail is literally trailing hot gasses man. If it didn't heat up it wouldn't have a tail, it's distinctly comet-like feature. It's a fireball.

>>143812941
desperate

>>143812883
Electricity is technically made out of water.

>>143809736

https://explainingtheoldworld.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/map-the-old-world.jpg

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/c/c7/Warhammer_olde_world_map.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130917163104

Considering there's no dragon isles and the Ogre mountains line up there, I have to wonder if we might not get Ogres.

Maybe the map wil lbe warped somewhat so you have the interior sections on the map so you do have the mountains.

After all you have that yucatan type peninsula http://oi57.tinypic.com/4r3tb8.jpg and the vampire coast island https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9b/d7/c0/9bd7c05d93d633366743b761a8d3cde9.jpg

So yeah nm, I am sure the map will be smooshed a little to have Ogre kingdoms at the far periphery

>>143812663
lmfao
>>143812564
Sorry I've never been into warhammer I'm not a vexillologist for warhammer, I don't know shit about the lore or history or symbolism.

>>143812626
Keep a small army south to defend with the help of garrisons and conquer rib peaks first, mount gunbad has gold and an unique mine building and is richer than fucking marienburg.

>>143813001
Anon pls just stop

>>143812663
This is one of those times where you made a retarded post and you're going to have to deal with it.

Don't worry, we don't know who you are and we won't know when you post something else.

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>>143812779
In 3 (THREE) VC campaigns, my varghulf died every times on the same last auto-resolve battle with Templehof

>>143812941
I don't think anyone is really 'arguing' here.

Thorgrim or Ungrim?

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>>143812812
is it better to expand northward and just leave an army near karak karaz to guard against random waaaghs? i feel like the broken river province is too hard to hold without 3+ armies

GUYS LETS GET BACK TO POSTING EPIC RADIOUS NAMES FOR UNITS XD I LOVE HOW ZANY 4CHAN IS

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Tip: as Orcs only use control groups 4-8

What do you do if the enemy has 8 arrow units and you have 8 arrow units?
Do you want to focus each 1 by 1? Spread fire? Focus melee units instead? Keep alternating between melee units that need help?
What about at the start?

>>143813174

Thorungrim (Slayer Grudge King)

>>143812998
I've been at -6000 upkeep every turn for the past 70 turns, and it's not a problem as long as you keep fighting. Tech gives you stupid amounts of favour post-battle, and sacking settlements just throws you into the hundreds of thousands.

The comp I ran primarily with Archaeon until I got my posse going was 4 Chosen in the center to soak up gunfire, 6 Chosen Great Weapons behind the first shield wall to go around and flank, 4 Chosen Halberds to target down knights and monstrous, 2 Chaos Knights (Lances), 2 Hellcannons, Archaeon and an Exalted Hero.

Did pretty well.

>>143813212
calm down radious

>>143813001
So if I drop in icecube into a container of hot gasses I get a firecube? It's surrounded by hot gases, a distinctly comet-like feature. It's a firecube.

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>>143813010
desperate

>>143813212
>Mounted Ironbreaker Thunderer Boar Cavalry

>>143813001
While you are technically correct, the 'hot' in this case is only comparatively.

They're hotter than the nearly heatless ice floating through the void, but still cold enough to give you frostbite within seconds of unprotected physical contact ignoring the vacuum of space aspect

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http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-delayed-into-may-system-requirements-released/

According to this article if you have integrated graphics you need a intel 4000 to play it on minimum

Apparently I have intel 4600 and on low my game looks like this

When they say "minimum" do they actually mean "holy shit it looks like garbage, but if you use you imagination then you can pretend it doesn't look nearly so shit"?

Because with a somewhat better integrated graphics card than the absolute minimum I'm wondering how fucking shit this would look if I actually had the absolute minimum.

>>143813184
Idk. I cleared the desert and then other dwarfs joined me. They also actually were able to beat the orcs in north. I guess i got lucky.

>>143813285
RADIOUS HIRE THIS MAN

Are Dwarfs the worst faction?

They are supposed to be the best in melee and with artillery, but VC Empire and Chaos all have better and cheaper alternatives.

Whats the point in having no mobility if your infantry are not much better?

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>>143813156
>auto-resolving
>complaining about losing the wrong unit

>>143813491
you on hard or very hard?

>>143811008
It's probably from a hero training the army, they heroes and lords shouldnt recieve vetrrancy

Is there any point in handing on to crossbowmen once you get handgunners as either dwarfs or Empire?

Technically the crossbow has better range and damage vs. low armor enemies I guess? I kinda feel like I'm wasting army slots on them.

>>143813212
Mounted Steam Tank Demigryph Knight Pistolier Witch Hunters (Assault Artillery) (Vanguard Deployment)

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>>143813564
Literally have the best unit in whole game.

>>143813564
>They are supposed to be the best in melee
Chaos are the best infantry. But Dwarf thunderers and cannons rape Chaos, Dwarf melee isn't meant to win battles just hold the enemy in place while the ranged destroy them.

>>143813234
Set 2 arrows on 1 of theirs.

Should break the first 4 fast enough and then you can do the same for the last 4.

Then help melee troops.

Unless there's a huge clusterfuck of enemies then rain death into that.

>Armored Slayer Cavalry

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>>143813356
We have other problems.

As VC should I raze all the bordering dorf towns to prevent orcs from ever bordering me?

>>143813610
very hard
>>143813634
Crwosbows can shoot over units in a arc. Handgunners are shit. Dont use them.

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>you will never live in misty mountain after the kings Ungrim and Thorgrim restablish the golden age of the dwarfs

>>143813564
I haven't played or even fought a lot of Chaos, but I know more than one battle has been won as a dwarf just by being able to last longer and hold on to Leadership just a bit longer than the other guy for them to rout first.

>>143813634
both are decent, but Quarrelers are much better all purpose

Thunderers can deal some heavy damage to armored targets but it needs to be exposed, they can hold most cavalry in combat long enough for you to flank tho

>>143813634

Crossbowmen are better than handgunners in every scenario except against armored units

>>143813761
They can occupy them, and you might hurt the dwarves enough for the greenskins to go even faster.
Sometimes the Dwarves win anyway.

>>143813483
That would make a god-tier dual-monitor wallpaper if it wasn't stretched.

>>143813427
Time to request a refund anon.

Guys please give me (YOUs) I'm depressed my paycheck is arriving after Choas DLC isn't free anymore

I want to die

>>143810059
Excluding goblins, orc archers are the bitch boys of the green skins.

>>143813821
>Crwosbows can shoot over units in a arc. Handgunners are shit. Dont use them.
Good fucking god. I have seen this in game and wondered about it but never put serious thought into it. Sonovabitch.

>>143813870
>>143813915
Man, thanks guys. It's so obvious now.

>>143813427
It looks like Tzeentch rules the Old World

>>143814025
;_;

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Gotcha. Now we'll see who built the better army Karl.

It's the one with more Archaons in it.

I have more Archaons.

>>143814063
ill buy it for you anon

sensual walrus, i put palestine as my home

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So I've never played Total War before, I like RTS/4X games and I also like Warhammer so I figured why not. Games nice and all but I have absolutely no fucking idea what I'm doing.

Any tips or things to be aware of in TW games?

How to play VC, is it all about turtleing till corruption spreads?

Should i rush the economy and corruption book of research first.

And skellys actually seems pretty decent units, im playing Kemler and im beating empire units with not much more than dire wolves skellys and two wraith units.

I was wondering where are the various unit animations in the editor?

I'm replacing the overcast raise dead with grave guard instead of standard skellies, but they have no animation when summoned.

>>143814260

>chaos dragon mount for archaon

gross

>>143814260
Karl clearly dosent know Archaons only weakness. Witch hunters

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CHAOS DWARFS CONFIRMED, PREPARE FOR DLC ON MONDAY!

Do's and dont's for spending skill points on Dwarf LLs and Heroes? Also do harder difficulties give more Exp per battle? And is there a good way to level up lords and shit besides just random battles?

As VC should my line be Graveguards with shields or great weapons

>>143814603
Get the +10% movement skill.

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>>143814465
Can't hear you over the sound of my shapeshifting daemon-horse friend

>>143814603
Go middle with every lord. Buffing your own stats is worthless. Bottom line has ligthning strike wich is good.

>>143814345
Declare war on everyone always.

>>143814625
I'd say shields, but you can always just play a couple of custom battles to see for sure.

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>>143814498

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>It's a "The Skaeling repopulate Norsca faster than you can raze it" Episode

Jesus fucking Christ, it's been 170 turns and I never set a foot outside this blasted peninsula.

Even the Lord of Change came and died and I can't start the fucking Invasion proper because these seal fucking faggots still defy me.

Archaon the Everchosen? More like Archaon the Evercucked.

>>143814260
What mod to get a dragon for Archaon?

>>143814345

You should start with Shogun 2 if you wanna be familiar with TW games

If you wanna go straight into Warhammer tho, then i guess you should do the tutorial first

>>143814625
Your line should be shields, the Great Weapons are the flankers or for smashing into the enemy shielded lines.

Am I using them wrong or are Slayers really weak?

I use them to charge the flanks of units tied up with my Ironbreakers and they still tend to lose the fight.

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>>143814739
Man... gw really killed itself.

>>143814262
-really?

If my line is clashing with another, should I let crossbows that are behind the fighting lines fire into the enemy if I can't flank around?

>>143814739
Where is the Slaanesh part?

>>143814892
When I played Chaos I just didnt bother with Norscans, they arent worth the trouble

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>>143814892
Your supposed to leave one clan alive and let them be your friend. Once everyone else is dead you can kill them.

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>>143813712
thx bud I survived two armies of arrow boyz

>>143814957
Crossbows can fire over your troops.

So yes.

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Rollan

>>143814625
I used shields, but desu you could probably ditch the shields and just fuck their ranged over with vargheists and bats. But you also don't exactly need your grave guard to be killing tons of the enemy, you want to hold them while your monsters and cav get ready to spook the shit out of their army

>>143814894
there's one that just turns dorghar into a chaos dragon, and another that adds manticore and dragon to his skill tree. steam workshop

>>143814260

GEE BILL how come your mom lets you have TWO Archaons!

>>143815249
>crossbogen can arc like bows

that's some bullshit

>>143814739
Did they... just... make Archaon worse?

He was a bad edgy 2nihilistic2deep4u Mary Sue, how the fuck can you make it even worse?

>>143813075
No, but I have read attempts to try and explain the technical jargon for electricity using plumbing as an example.

>>143815279
me 2

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>>143813131
Maybe you are him
Maybe I am him
Who knows

>>143815173
>not awakening and then subjugating all Norsca tribes
also, funnily enough, you can awaken Skaeling and Varg if they get wiped out

>>143813075
Ligthning technically comes from wall plug

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>>143815279
Cunts

>>143815417
Technical jargon is technically made out of plumbing.

>>143815384
In the novels he aint so bad. He's only driven into the nihilism.

>>143815543
Its useless since they start to fight with eachother. One strong norse clan is the way to go.

>>143815762
not if you subjugate them after awakening, vassals can't start wars

>>143815384
There are no well written characters in warhammer.

>>143815762
They can't fight each other if they're your vassal. Gotta awaken them, immediately declare war to dumpster them AGAIN so you can subjugate them for good.

Speaking of Chaos, has anybody done a campaign with a single horde? It seems pretty difficult, maybe they intended this and this is why the campaign is flagged as hard.

>>143815909
Maybe then its worth it. Going to test that ebin tactic.

What can I do if one of my quests involve doing something to a faction that's been obliterated?

>>143814936

They're for killing monsters and big enemies and don't perform as well against other units, they're a pretty specialized unit.

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>Retake settlement from Norsca
>regional occupation mod has a bug whereby their sparring field cannot be destroyed

CONFOUND THOSE NORSCA BOYS. OH HOW I HATE THEM. I HATE SKAELINGS. I HATE BAERSOLING. I HAAATEEE VARG. THEY DRIVE ME TO DRINK.

>>143816028
Go to their capital city and liberate it

I have no idea if that works, but its worth a shot

>that radious mod
What I don't get is even ignoring some of the retarded units, why start with Orcs? they already have a large roster.

>>143816028
It should skip that step in the quest if they are gone.

>>143815985
I quested with only Archaon's band of badasses until I did all the quest battles and got crowned everchosen. Then I hired the other two legendaries and got the ball rolling.

It is dangerous as fuck rolling with one horde though.

>>143816028
bug. Same with dwarfs. Grudge against faction that is destroyed. Your fucked.

>>143815909

>subjugate bearlings
>off slaughtering vargs and skaelings
>BEARLINGS HAVE SECEDED

WHAT WAS THE POINT, I GAVE YOU YOUR FREEDOM

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1) How should I use pikes in Divide et Impera?

2) Does anyone know when the campaign for Medieval Kingdoms 1212AD is expected to be released?

>>143816240
Radious is probably an Orc fan and wanted to remove any weakness they have as soon as possible.

>>143816240
> they already have a large roster.
As deep as a puddle and as wide as a smaller puddle. They have a pretty shit roster.

>>143808839
Uninspired and repetitive as mods nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Radious mod, the latest entry to modding self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Radious mod seems like your ordinary mod which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "understanders of strategy" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.Unlike our hack-ridden mod industry, Radious Mod uses metaphors in an excruciatingly subtle way. Sharp-eyed spectators should be able to spot the humanistic properties Radious mod displays.

Radious mod is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the mod with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Radious mod wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the modding community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Radious is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “understanders of strategy” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

I don’t think this mod justifies an arbitrary rating of stars; it’s much better than that. It deserves a place among the highest modern philosophical works of our world. "Nietzsche, thy name is Radious."

Did they take out the 1v1 fights like in Shogun 2?

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I'm going to bed /twg/, here have a couple webm I made

>>143816309
>Grudge against faction that is destroyed. Your fucked.
In my game grudges against destroyed factions get auto completed

>>143816338
you let them grow stronger than you, your fault for being a pansy

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>>143816435

>>143809065
>growing into Black Orcs

Doesn't happen anyway. Black Orcs are a seperate breed entirely. Normal Orcs go Boy -> Big 'un -> Nob -> Warboss.

>>143816430
Yup. Good choice by CA imo.

>>143816414
please don't be real

>>143816539
Yes but there is a bug that it does not auto complite it. This is preventing me "winning"

>>143816580
THEY LITERALLY ONLY HAD 1 SETTLEMENT

>>143816634
No anon, nobs are 40k

Grimgor is a black orc, and a warboss.

>>143816657
Not really, should have kept them for Hero-Hero fights, they look retarded now

Fine for rank&file troops tho

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>>143816657
>the one setting where 1v1 wouldn't be too out of place
>removes it

>>143816580
>first grudge was to get a level 15 master engineer
>turn 130
>he's only lvl 13
>10 severity for 1 grudge

what a feature

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>>143816625

>>143816807
>Not really, should have kept them for Hero-Hero fights,
Thats a fucking massive amount of work for little to no gain

>>143816701
I'm pretty sure that I have seen a similar text yesterday, so I assume it is a pasta.

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>>143816414
>someone took the time to write this

>>143816717
Are you sure it's specific to a faction?
For instance i had a grudge with Kislev, something about vodka, Kislev was destroyed but it wasnt about the faction itself, just raiding Kislev which i did in the razed area completed the grudge.

>>143816701
A veritable work of its time, Radious mod is an author’s input on the contemporary attitude so critical of mods that they’re often not given a chance at all, a window through which we see the creator’s wish to move his audience, as well as frustrations at the vessels of these emotions being ignored or enjoyed as “low art”.

Attempts at analyzing Radious mod’s implications and unraveling its messages necessitate great concentration and effort, which is further exacerbated when so much of my blood flows elsewhere than my brain when enjoying this mod.

Radious mod is a journey, an embodiment of a search fundamental to our humanity yet abandoned by contemporary society; Radious Mod is the eternal quest for perfection. As philosophers and "understanders of strategy" alike vainly peruse the void of their hollow souls for an abstract ideal, they achieve naught save for casting the community into desecration. Delving further into the hypothetical and the metaphysical only reinforces the misbelief that true beauty lies within. “Homosexuality,” Plato wrote, “is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments, Both of which apply to contemporary society.

"Quod culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno; atque id durius est faba et lapillis. Quod tu si manibus teras fricesque, non umquam digitum inquinare posses.”

As tremors of mirth reverberate through my corpus; my finite faculties discharged; my soul emancipated. Such is the power of Radious Mod. Radious Mod is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is perhaps best treated as a lengthy parable. For the actively dismissive it will hardly make much of an impression other than being an ordinary mod with a cheap attempt at improving the game. For others with willing ears and eyes to match, it can be a novel take on the values and motivations surrounding the genre.

>>143816889
>>143816701
>>143816884
>being this new

>>143816889
Some people took the time to write everything in this thread, and all the threads preceeding it.

>>143815279
lets see

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>>143816840


>>143816376

I heard 1212 releases in summer so it should be soon

>>143816780
Black orcs were bred?, grown?, cultivated? by chaos dwarfs though, that's why they're the no fun allowed orcs it's the influence of their former masters.

>>143816780
Nobs/bosses, same thing.

Black Orcs can grow up to warboss level - and they then tend to be nastier than normal warbosses just like Black Orcs are anstier than normal ones. They're a seperate sub-species, and one specifically created by the Chaos Dwarves as a smarter and more reliable slave soldier. Turned out they both achieved their goal and failed in the most spectacular way possible.

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>>143817054

>>143817000
Its a bug. Reported it to CA forum

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/175870/grudge-bug-assasination-against-faction-that-is-destroyed#latest

There is screenshots.

Basicly the game wants me to assasinate estalian character but i already destroyed estalia. There is no way to complite that grudge atm. Maybe if empire colonalaise all the human cities and then i can liberate estalia but i dont know if thats possible.

>decrease number of units needed for a waaagh
>decrease amount of morale needed for a waaagh
>???
>profit

This could be an entertaining 'end of the world' scenario.

>>143817054
>using chaos warriors if there is chosen available

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AAAAAAAHHHHHH

Chaos Warriors. Next horde building unlock. Chariots and hellcannons? Or giants?

Having a hellcannon in the army just to skip besieging and also to force advances would be nice, are giants even better though? I haven't played with either type of giant yet but that loading screen art makes it a pretty tempting prospect .

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>>143817262

>>143817393
MOUNTAIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

>>143817473
>and then Age of Sigmar happened

Kislev is after my ass, a small army versus a stack, I'm hiding in the woodland.

Can the AI find me?

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>>143817473

Last one, well I'm off to bed

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>>143817584
AAAHHHHHH

>>143817623
Yes, unless you're in ambush stance but they'll see you anyway because the AI likes to spam agents up the ass.

>>143817393
hes this big in the lore

>>143812626

I've gotten unlucky with waagh! timing where you have constant trains of 2-4 stacks coming up. If you get lucky, they'll attack you in a fortified seige and get blown out. If you're unlucky, they'll bypass your armies and raid through the lesser provinces until your economy is so smashed that you can't support any armies.

>>143817714
Yep, encircled me to boot.

>>143817473
Really starting to miss matched combat, there's nothing interesting to look at when you zoom in anymore.

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>>143815279

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>>143817731
yea I know

he's a scary dude

>>143817841
Hell fucking no. The combat animations are infinitely better now for actual units on units fights.

Who gives a shit about lords on lords, you never fucking see that shit anyway in a battle.

>>143816435
And 80% of them get up :D

>>143816376
>1) How should I use pikes in Divide et Impera?
You make a line and then the enemy charges your line.

>>143817731
why are there no entries about him on the usual wikis, did CA pull him out of their asses from 15 years ago?

>>143817841
TWWH's really lacking in polish. All that ever comes out of the mouths of your soldiers is "DIE TRAITOR" and "AAAAAAHHHHHH SIGMAR"

>>143818085
Idk about wikis but in my chaos armybook is there whole page devoted to Kholek and how big he is.

>>143817393
he's a big guy