/wfg/ - Warframe General

first for justified nerfs

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nth for becca

CP Mag Build is best build

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xth for drinking on a hot summer day.

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Storming the place. Meet at the alley on Sun St. Don't bring any of your own heaters. I got plenty of them. Pineapples too. We'll show them what happens when you nerf Trinity.

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>>143790781

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I hope you're enjoying that Warframe. You'll join me and my buddy Trinity soon.

dead game dead thread

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Help my colour my granny. I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas Nah but srs I have no idea how to make her skin look good. Tried it all

>>143791406
default colors

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Anyone ever see a ghost girl/lady that is only viewable with a scanner?

>>143791631
We need you to stop asking such dangerous questions.

>>143791631
You 'avin a stroke m8?

>>143791631
>he lacks the knowledge

>>143790384
fuck off to reddit

>>143791406
Were you going for winnie the pooh?

nth for "you may now leave your seats, the ride has come to an end."

>>143791406
red and black

Alright, I'm going to tell you all an exploit for defense and ain't no one going to stop me.
>4x CP
>Frost
>Loki
>2 extra frames for damage buff, additional cc or EV
>Bringing legitimately good weapons like Tonkor

>>143792362
People still do this.

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>>143792362
DELETE THIS DAN BACKSLIDE

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Pistol only sorties are a lot more fun now.

>>143791631
>>143791797
>desire to know more intensifies

>>143792552
Speaking of which, what's the best secondary to use with mesa?

>>143791406
White and Black for her base colors, take your pick of black or white stockings, then a single bright color or more muted tone for her accents.

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Reminder to not post you findings here.

Let the mesafags wipe of their tables with Old English wood shiner.

Ignore anyone asking for mag builds.

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>>143792976
What Mag build?

>>143792652
Peacemaker just uses the mods.

>>143791406

Black
Black
White
Default
Orange

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>>143790781
Just poured myself a mug of 5 euro vodka.
It's gonna be a long day flipping vauban sets.

>>143792652

Crit based secondary's.

I use Spira P

>>143793218
Yeah, but I would want the PM mods to actually make sense when using the weapon standalone.

>>143793648
Thanks. Would LexP be good too?

>>143792362
>4CP
>when mag exists.

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It's time.

Postan the F R A M E S G U I D E:

http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

Contains all my thoughts regarding the recent changes.

Summary of changes (read pastebin for full thoughts):

>Excalibur from A to A-
>Mag from B- to C
>Mesa from D to B-
>Mirage from A to B+
>Trinity from A+ to B
>Valkyr grade unchanged
>Volt grade unchanged

>Equinox grade from B to B+
>Vauban from A- to A

(Although Equinox and Vauban were untouched, strength is relative. With Blind Mirage gutted, Vauban is now the top-tier CC frame. Similarly, with Mag's Corpus-slaying ability gutted, Equinox rises to fill the role.)

I'm fairly confident about the changes made, given or minus half a grade. The only frame I'm unsure of is Mag. I've tested her pretty extensively (Polarize and Magnetize) and the C grade reflects my thoughts on her. But people say she's OP now, so who the fuck knows.

One guy posted a pic of his Mag+Banshee going 2 hours in T4 survival, but I don't place too much value in builds that require Banshee, and in any case the guide doesn't grade based on 2h voids.

>>143793796

>Would LexP be good too?

Its just for the mods really - but PM is very crit based so any crit secondary is good (if you want your secondary to be viable at least - you can literally use any secondary aslong as it has the right mods for PM to be effective)

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>you can't jump over the massive hole in the wall instead of hacking the console to get to the corpus tileset

>>143794063
>those ratings

It seems someone >doesn't know.

>>143794063
>He hasn't aquired the information

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>>143791406
i copied this anon for mine and you should too

>>143794063
>Mag from B- to C

mag is better than ever, shitter, you dont know what you are talking about.

>>143794361
>>143794571
The only frame I'm unsure about is Mag. I've tried the so-called "CP build" and it's garbage.

The only Mag build I'm curious about is the 2h-survival one by that one guy, but even then I highly doubt it'll work without Banshee. Given all of my testing, I've been unable to make Mag work.

I have seen zero evidence of Mag doing well and have no reason to believe a good mag build/playstyle exists outside of the 2h one.

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>>143794063
>Vauban
>Top tier CC

Oh jesus christ is this real life?

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>>143794903
Literally begging to be spoonfed.

Stay ignorant.

>>143795001
>he doesn't know

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>>143794821
The only evidence of Mag being good I've seen is the 2h survival run, and I'm fairly sure that's more Banshee than Mag

>>143795054
All you have to do to prove me wrong is post evidence of Mag being good now (something besides the 2h survival) - not build or anything , just a "MISSION SUMMARY" screen of Mag getting 2k kills or something. Doing so will prove me wrong without teaching me anything about how to play Mag.

But of course you won't, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>143795248
Don't even start with your memes.

Whats wrong with this game? Just wasted 40 minutes doing a t2s and I didnt get the rewards

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>>143794671
>Hidden Stalker Trademark
My Negroid

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>>143794281
>Yet you can loop around the exhaust system to bypass the very same control panels

That's DE for you.

You are a quantic cloud of electrical impulses shut inside a coffin of organic flesh playing as a loli, playing as a warframe. The later being in a simuladed reality. And the first? Well, i guess you need to git good to know more.

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>>143795001
He is top-tier CC. Why do you think he's not?

>>143790325
Just a reminder:
Conclave Cheese Discord Server
perma-link: https://discord.gg/0zkCy37R80oK0sKG

for people that can't stand conclave but want to grab the daily rep for whatever reason

>>143796007
>0zkCy37R80oK0sKG
Every time.

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Ded thread

DE finally did it

>>143796395
lol k

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What does the new 'reinforce' icon mean?

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Hey guys I changed my excal build after the nerf.
How is this?
What changes should I do?

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>>143796587

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>>143796587

>>143792976
reminder to post everything so we can kill this piece of shit game.
post your sleeks anon, we need more nerfs.

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>>143796587

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>>143796587

VALKYR PONYTAIL HELMET ALERT

molecular prime + polarize

holy jesus.

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>>143791406
Daily dose colors.

Gotta know what it is. Show off that absolute territory.

I remember someone saying Multishot for SSimulor.

>>143797953
TWO balls for one ! wew !

>>143797953
Pairs of balls come out pre-combined, so the damage will ramp up faster but be worse in the short term.

>>143798043
>>143798257
I see.
Guess I should build it for pure damage then.

I heard modding Synoid Simulor for Viral is better than modding it for Corrosive, why is that the case?

>>143794903
That guy here again.

CC is an important part of the set up. The sonar is also vital. Gas weapons (as we used Torid and Ignis) always hit the weak spot. My Torid was corrosive and blast. His Ignis was fire and viral. Status builds (80+%).

Find yourself a good one way in no way out hidey hole with a corner at the choke point.

He spams the Ignis and sonar constantly to cause virals and burning, this makes fast moving units get "stunned" and sucked into the magnetize. I spam my Torid which knocks them down.

While they're being sucked into the center, the gas from our weapons is bouncing around in the magnetize, low units die on touch, heavies die at the center in <5 ticks.

His viral halves their health, my corrosive very quickly stacks and removes all their armor.

For safety we spawned a Loka ancient and Clem (more for commentary).

Be sure to cast magnetize again before the first one dies, as it sucks in all damage and prevents anything reaching you. Anything within 30 meters of the first one collapsing is dead (or probably pretty close).

Only way we would improve this build is Equinox and ash. Equinox for more power str on sonar, and ash for shared invis so it's an easy escape (this is the only hard part of going 2 hours).

Good luck, have fun.

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Anybody got an artemis bow / prowl build for ivara? I just finished building her and I heard this was fun but not sure how to build

>>143794063
>that image
Why do you have such a massive ego jesus christ

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Asking again since I never really got an answer in the other thread. I'm attempting to play Warframe with this horrendous setup (Do not blame me, blame my dumbass sister who bought this piece of shite) as my old PC died from an aneurysm. What do I need to do in order to play, at the very least on solo mode?

Just like last time, any and all insults toward my sister will be taken and used against her.

>>143798841
full power+efficiency with negative duration
dashwire, prowl, artemis
stay there the rest of the mission unless you somehow run out of energy

>>143798893
You really shouldn't have any issues playing 800x600 low settings and all the special effects turned off. Recommend full screen to not waste VRAM on Windows elements. Just make sure you kill every other non vital task running.

>>143798893
Did you use your sister as your meat toilet yet?

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>>143798893
Oh, not you with your >$800 PC again. Tell your sister that she needs to commit suicide.

>>143798893
pics of sister?

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>>143796587

>>143799190
What options are special effects though? I thought I had everything low until the PC redscreen'd.

>>143799191
Dear god no, she's a slob and borderline SJW.

>>143799278
I found out later it was actually 400 bucks instead of 800, but I am still ashamed.

>>143799327
None, and if you saw her you would see why.

>>143798578

Theres not all that much difference. Viral cuts HP value in half, meaning each proc essentially deals 50% HP damage. Synoid Simulor isnt really a status weapon though.. so yeah. Not much difference

>>143799490
>slob and borderline SJW
>not perfect meat toilet material

Fuck off.

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Is this a decent solo-prowl build? Duration for fast steal / slow drain, efficiency for a bit less energy loss on using sleep arrow, and NT to use sleep arrow faster?

Feedback is welcome

>>143799624
Her hips wouldn't even move on their own, anon. She is not worth it.

>>143799727
>Not picking Zenurik

>>143799727
>siphon
at least it's the right polarity

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>>143792976
So nothing like this right?

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>>143799896
>>143799969
>picking zenurik
>still thinking I need efficiency
What do I replace efficiency with?

>doing alert defense on saturn
>objective is full hp
>mission fails out of blue with 3 waves remaining
Happened twice now. Enemy levels were ~22, so no one-shotting bombards.
Am I unaware?

>>143799490
Everything that has a tick box should be unticked.

If you're encountering machine errors then you need to troubleshoot those first.

>>143798827
Thanks, good to know.

The thing is, even knowing that Mag can be good with the right setup doesn't change her grade. The frame guide grades on general play and doesn't take into account highly specific scenarios requiring exact frames. As further examples, there's videos of 85 wave T4 defense with Zephyr giving the entire team exploding Tonkors, and super-long camping Survival runs with Volt to boost EB damage, yet Zephyr and Volt are both given low grades. It's impossible to take into account every single good combination of frames and weapons, so the guide just grades based on general guidelines. For the vast majority of content (and I believe for most players), that's good enough.

>>143800137
I see nothing wrong here. That's just how the game works.

>>143800025
keep going. The only way DE can fix that is by redoing the whole melee system which they don't do because they are too busy with luuuuunarooooo and archwing racing.

>>143800094
you don't

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>Excavation mission
>MR4 Loki Prime joins
>Loki
>Team mates are running two drills at once, so I go to the one being protected by only one person
>Loki follows me to other drill
>I go back to the previous drill
>He follows me back

>>143792976
>le ebin sekrit club

>>143801306
ebic post XD

Alright so I am a newbie trying to do this Twin vipers pluto survival alert as Frost.
Got to around 10 min left and game randomly failed for no real reason (?).

Also for pub survival as frost should I be dropping my bubbles and keeping them up on choke points like around the life support? I notice most of the pubs were meleeing and not sure if it was because bubble was fucking with their LoS or what. Every split up and kept getting downed from Hyenas and a shit ton of waves too.

tl;dr
Why did this survival fail and why am I a shitter playing frost?

>>143794063
>Volt grade unchanged
Speed effect reload speed now, its actually an insane overall DPS increase when you stop 1 shotting everything

>>143798827
Well there you go. Legitimate proof that DE lurks here. WE made 18.13 happen.

>>143800552
Long term survival is one of the most important aspects of the game.

Capture, sabotage, exterminate, assassination, hijack, spy, rescue, mobile defense - none of these missions ultimately matter. You can take whatever you want and win them. Things can make them easier but ultimately aren't necessary frame set ups.

Endless missions that require highly specialized set ups are the core content currently. Survival, defense, excavation, interception.

Interception and excavation can be endlessly cheesed in solo quite easily, made even easier in groups.

Defense is by far harder than survival when comparing endlessly because you cannot funnel down things quite as easily, as you have to work with whatever tile you get, and in the void that's wide open.

TL;DR - that guide doesn't helps shitters, it just keeps them in shitter zone.

>>143800025
How? Where do I input scripts?

>>143798827
>Good luck, have fun.
This is a DE Mod-ShitterSnitch

>>143802093
>using elements of the game available to my tactical advantage
That is the whole point of the mod system and all the elements and abilities the game has. If DE just wanted us hippity hopping around shooting pea shooters like retards then that's all they would give us. It's not my fault they do not know how to play their own game and don't realize how important meta is.

>>143802368
download autohotkey

>>143801925
Just take ash with efficency and a carrier, it doesn't even need to be formad or potatoed to work.

>>143802440
I've been banned from their forums 3 times because I lack the over sensitivity needed to converse with them. I don't play public games (or if I do I play shitter). I don't upload videos.

If you guys think this is some secret club then you're out of your mind. The plebbit talks a whole lot more in detail than we do here and uploads a ton of content that I'm sure they run right to DE with.

>>143802624
I don't have Ash (or continuity). Been farming void pots and no luck.

Prenerf Valkyr would be the next best crutch I have after Frost but I guess thats not on the table. I don't know WHY the mission failed, we were all alive it just randomly failed... life support was 40%.

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>>143802786
>it just randomly failed
you'll get those every once in a while, this is DE we're talking about

>>143803021
ow the edge

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Do you guys like the new Atlas skin for Excalibur?

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>>143803349
>let me die
>no
>STOP

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>>143803075

>>143802262
The guide doesn't grade based on extremely long runs for the simple reason the vast majority of players don't do it. Even compared to the number of players that regularly run sorties, very few of them do long runs simply because there's almost no reward for doing so and it's very, very boring.

The guide actually does grade on endless sorties/~1h voids and ignore trivial missions for the reasons you describe. It focuses primarily on sorties because that's the closest we have to endgame and lots of players run it.

I actually think Survival is by far the easiest Endless mission. Valk can solo it for hours and Ivara can cheese it endlessly.

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>discovering prowl ivara for the first time

>>143803686
>reporting to DE for the first time

>>143803349
>there are other frames besides excalibur?

>>143803604
And this is the problem. We have people that have relegated the current answer of end game for sorties. Sorties have been cut down 2x to be made easier for shitters. Remember when defense was 20 waves, excavation was 1500? Even then they were easy.

The core issue is that DE has no vision for their end game. Sortie is not it at all. The other issue is that DE cannot play their own game. Now I'm not asking them to be as good as their players, no dev should be. However they should look at the truly good players and understand why they're good. They let the shitter majority of the game make the decisions. Do your best to educate people. The more people that are better at the game, the less shitters you have, the better chance you have of people knowledgeably fighting back against DEs shit. I've seen far too many games get taken over and ruined by shitters and devs who pander to said shitters. I don't want warframe to become one of them.

>>143794063
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT THE TELA MODS
Seriously half the guide about tanky frames is still on about how "you need a way to sustain yourself", guess what a medi-ray exists and gives you 12% max health every 15 seconds.

Did everyone get so caught up in bitching about how shitty having to do the exceutioners that they literally forgot about the rewards we got for this shit?
Medi ray makes chip damage a non issue in basically 99% of the cases where it used to be an issue but nobody seems to ever mention it

>>143804215
Don't even bother.

What will come first, Oberon prime or an Oberon rework?

>>143804215
That's a problem with DE moreso than the guide. Yeah, sorties aren't difficult (most of them are soloable and every one of them is pubbable), but they're the closest we have to endgame. Maybe Starchart 3.0 and Damage 3.0 will fix things probably not

The guide's just trying to provide a summary of the current meta, not break new ground. I'm just trying to be helpful. People want to know what's good for ~lv100 content, not what's good for 2h+ void runs, because they don't run them.

>>143804215
What the fuck is wrong with Warframe's playerbase? It's literally the only game of many I've played where its players actually want and praise nerfs in a fucking PvE game

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> Everybody's getting nerfed
> Meanwhile Wukong remains ignored

The benefits of being an unwanted child sometimes.

>>143805285
DE can not nerf Chinkframes.

>>143805223
>Damage 3.0
Pls no oh god what is this?

>>143805236
Who knows. Warframe is a number game, nerfs never make it more difficult they just change the dynamic. What people really want is an overhaul to make the game more skill based. Which while I wouldn't mind such, it's far too late to change the original vision and model of warframe. The most "skill" elements we'll ever have are the parkour 2.0, and I-frame roll dodging.

You can't go back on 4 years of power creep, it's too late for that.

>>143805236
You haven't played many games or visited many dev forums in that case

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>>143790325
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>>143804252
You are the thickest motherfucker. That or so new it hurts. There is no such thing as "tanky" anymore. You either abuse iframes abilities give, mitigate the damage, or don't take damage to begin with. Scratch damage has never been the problem. And wewe 12% every 15 seconds, that sure is a lot and useful. Tierqueer is bad enough, don't throw stupid gasoline on the stupid fire.

What's a fun Primary you'd recommend? I'm drowning in melee weapons and secondaries but I'm a bi bored with my rifles at the moment and Tonkor.

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>>143805937
I'm having ridiculous amounts of fun with a 4-forma Supra
>pic related

But assblasting with Vaykor Hek is also pretty good.

>>143805937

Fun or good? You can only have one.

>>143805937
Synoid simulor

>>143805937
Honestly any bow (except Paris don't be a shitter) is fun. Zhuge is fun + good.

>>143805937
For fun I always pick guns that feel really good to shoot

I know the Grinlok is shit but I still use it sometimes when doing shitty T2 ext in void or something.

Or sometimes I go pistol only Mesa for a sabotage or Ext nothing too serious just times when I don't feel like builiding to be max efficent but just a bit fun.

>>143805937
Phage with Mirage.

>>143805937
Any sniper rifle with the +combo duration mod, make it a personal challenge to get up to 400% or higher damage multiplier.

warframe walking simulator when
warframe truck simulator when
warframe fight simulator when
warframe go-kart racing when
warframe pinball when
warframe world cup 2017 when
warframe vs capcom when
warframe the elder scrolls when
warframe tamagotchi when
warframe tennis when
warframe escape the room flash game when
warframe dating simulator when
tom clancy's warframe when
warframe fortress when
warframe life 3 when
warframe gear solid when
warframe party 8 when
warframeEye 007 when
bomberframe when
the legend of warframe when
warframenauts when

>>143806617
>No OverWarframe
Out.

>>143806617
Artificial Warframe Academy when?

>>143806617
>no warframe fantasy, warframe quest or tennomon
Shit list

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>do the alert
>take excal with build that no longer uses EB
>fire up my WAR with the related mods and the Cleaving Whirlwind Stance for the Broken Bull combo
>basically use a fuckload of slash dash to close in gaps and maintain my combo and Radial Blind to burst down beefier enemies
>other excal in the team
>mr16 so I guess he knew what he was doing
>copious usage of EB
>survival ends I have 10% more damage output than him and 137 kills more
>EB is now so dogshit that it gets outclassed by normal memelee

>>143806758
It was my impression that the anon who posted previously was mixing Warframe with games that were good.

>>143802075
I actually completely forgot about the reload buff because I never noticed it when I played him. How good is it? I can't see it being particularly relevant for anything except Tonkor/S. Tigris. Do you think it warrants bumping him from C+ to B-?

>>143804252
Will add a note about medi-ray to the tank frames. I didn't mention it because everybody should be running it anyway even if they're not a tank frame, there's literally no reason not to

>>143805919
medi-Ray is actually quite relevant you dumb motherfucker. It significantly cuts down on the amount of healing you need to go out of your way to do. It's particularly good for Chroma

>>143805526
>Serration-esque mods removed
>Multishot will consume ammo

all we know about it so far

>>143806964
Oh, my bad. I thought it was just random games.

>>143806942
>weeabo shit.

I'm sorry.

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>>143807098
>>Serration-esque mods removed
>>Multishot will consume ammo
STOP
STOOOOOOOP

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>pub Proxy alert
>bursas, mines, hyenas fucking everywhere
>retards splitting up and getting picked off by hyena's and knocked down constantly while meleeing outside of bubble vs a firing squad of faggots
>one asshole straggler while the rest of the squad tries to extract


>Mission Complete

>that charve on rakta cernos
Wew
Why even use other bows?

>>143807479
>aoe damage
>energy bonus
>fast as fuck charge speed.

they had to add all of that to make a bow good.

>>143807098
>Serration-esque mods removed
I better get some compensation for when it happens or I won't be very happy.

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>>143807273
Don't forget they intend to remove those soon™ while leaving enemy scaling untouched for the foreseeable future.

>>143807307
>do viper alert
>no fucking drops
>we're genocing drones and we still have to use 5-6 capsules because enemies don't fucking drop life support
Is that what they came up with to make it difficult? That's just insulting.

>>143807479
>>143807636
Is Rakta Ballistica any good?

>>143807273
if they manage to balance their fucking scaling around the idea of not needing direct damage upgrade mods but rather utility mods it will actually be for the better
99% of this game's problems come from the god forsaken scaling
changing the mods that scale our damage means changing the enemy scaling
it could be a good thing

>>143807813
currently testing it, but I see nothing special about it.

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>>143807845
>if they manage to balance their fucking scaling around the idea of not needing direct damage upgrade mods but rather utility mods it will actually be for the better

anon
anon this is DE
please

>>143795248
He lacks education.

>>143807098
>>Serration-esque mods removed
>>Multishot will consume ammo
Please be trolling.

>>143807170
>>didn't recognize tamagotchi

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>ywn bury your face into that armpit
t. Jay Dimsa

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>>143808019
they have done 1 or 2 good things in the past
we could at least have a pinch of hope
perhaps
maybe
it could happen
we could get a game that is good and balanced
please

Is resonating quake usable? How far does the drain ramp up?

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>>143808445
>we could have a pinch of hope
Well once in a blue moon-
>we could have fun and balance
Hahaha no.

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>>143807098
>>Serration-esque mods removed
>>Multishot will consume ammo
Oh god I asked and I just didn't expect. Shut up, just shut up you're lying.

These fucking pollocks.

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>>143808801
please anon please
don't loose hope yet
the end has yet to come

>>143808964
You're only setting yourself up for pain. Stop trying to drag others into that journey with you.

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>>143808964

Hope is a lie.

>>143808568
see>>143794063
It's decent for DEAC, damage falls off hard later. Drain ramp up is big

>>143808864
>>143808289
Have you guys been living under a rock or something? Multishot changes and Serration removal was talked about months ago. The only upside is that they said weapon damage will increase with level to compensate for loss of Serration, but I highly doubt the leveling damage will deal as much damage as Serration.

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>>143809040
I can take the pain in the slight chance they will actually make this fun
if they don't I will join you in kidney failure by beer consumption in an effort to forget the pain
until that day comes I only implore you to stand fast

>>143799969
>CP with a build used only for CL

Saryn is my waifu

>>143809480
You confuse foolishness for inner strength. Do not drag more into your fold.

>>143809287
At least they didn't nerf Saryn's tits

>>143809660
>saryn's looks and draco are the most she has going for her now

>>143809304
I don't really keep up with the hubbub or dev talk, I see what new shit has come out and go to wiki pages to see where drops are.

I'm getting back in and got a newbie with me so I'm in these threads again occasionally.

Submarines are still the sharks of the sea.

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This thread really is dead. Welp i'll come back in a week to see how de does nothing to fix the only heal in the game.

>>143809643
I am sorry anon
RIP in peace
perhaps I'll join you 1 day

>>143809968
>go to wiki pages to see where drops are
Just use the drop table in the OP, it's pretty simple to ctrl+f stuff

>>143810138
Yeah I've been looking at the pastebins, I'll start using that. Also does anyone have an image with what prime bits drop where? Just want something to glance at since I have a terrible memory.
Do you guys still accept smut

>>143805937
Hek

a thousand times hek

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>>143809480
Alcohol is liver failure, not kidney failure. Kidney failure isn't going to kill you anywhere near as fast as liver and you will suffer every day of it.

That said, what comes of warframe will come. DE has made it this far by fluke or by accident. They might ruin things one by one but I don't think it will ever take away from the core of game being a mindless shooter that we play for fun.

I have no hope or faith in them doing damage / scaling 3.0 right. However they need to come at the same time or with scaling done first.

Once end game is decided they need to cap enemy scaling and then tone back weapons and frames to where that cap is. I would only look forward to the changes if it was implemented like this. However it's in their hands what happens. Fear the worst, hope for the best.

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HOLY FUCK
IS IT ME OR CAN YOU HEAR R2-D2 WHEN YOU ACTIVATE VOLTS SPRINT

my warframe is str个ng

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>>143800712
I'm going to keep experimenting
>Tipedo finishes in 4 hours

Are there any requirements before starting a conflict over a solar rail?

Wiki says a lot of stuff about what happens, but there's so many things that it fails to explain that i'm kinda lost here.

What happens if I'm the only nigger in a ghost/storm clan and I want to face an alliance or a bigger clan? What happens afterwards if I happened to win? I don't understand shit.

>just came back from a 4-day holiday
>reading the patch notes

Real talk? Didn't think they'd do it.
Killing Mirage, Trin and Exca in one go? Amazing.
I'm not sure I follow what they did to Blessing though. The formula seems really... bad.

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>>143810740
kek i hear it too

>>143810951
a regular bless trin will DR for 43%

for more the party needs to have HP loss as well

this makes ev trin more reliable for support, but it will be butchered as well.

>>143810903
Solar rails are under a semi-permanent armistice. You can't start a conflict.

>>143811219
DE was the worse thing that happened to warframe

i wonder what the chink players think of these changes

>>143811158
They made Trin a bigger pub babysitter, then.
I'm not too unhappy with that change, honestly. Will make oneshot-endgame harder but y'know.

>>143811158
>this makes ev trin more reliable for support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbhCUACnfC8

>>143810951
It's much harder to balance the hundreds of useless shit frames and guns when there are only 10 examples of good frames and guns that can scale into post-DEAC. It's so much harder to make everything better when you can just make everything worse.

This is DE we are talking about. They are a shit developer.

>>143811351
man, if you mained a non tank warframe like saryn or mag you had 2 hopes, to hole up in a nice place with frost or a trin to give you the resistance necessary to play the game

when i needed to do sorties asap i didnt risked anything, i pubbed a trinity, taking a bless build when i could. this was a excellent reason for me to give up on sorties.

>>143811631
I'm aware that it's easier to make everyone Oberon than it is to make everyone release-day Mesa but having all the big names killed at once is specially ambitious for such lazy fucks.

>>143811219
yeah, that i read
still, i'm very confused about most of these things, and I could totally use the knowledge for the future

>>143811851
The retarded forumites and ledditors with the shitty nerf mentality who want the "overpowered" frames and weapons as bad as their favorite shitty frames and weapons are DE's main source of income and they have been whining for years

They had to be appeased sooner or later

>>143811351
At the level where 43% DR is "useful" (read: nice to have) you can survive without it and use something more useful instead. At the level where 99% DR was actually necessary (enemies with hitscan full auto weapons oneshotting you), 43% DR is completely useless.

So I finally got Synoid Simulor, now is multishot effective on it, even if I used the original simulor I couldn't really tell also I never forma or potato'd it.

>>143811158
Are you sure it's 43%? I heard it counts sentinels as well.

>>143805396
But they did, straight out of the gate. Primal Fury's range isn't capped on chinkframe. He could solo farm Draco by just spamming E with how much range it gets. I don't know if they eventually patched it, though, but it was like that for a good long while even after we got Nezha.

>>143811512
i really do mean that the go to build for support is ev but w/e its not like i dont share your disgust with DE's viral marketeer

that are paid in plat instead of USD

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>>143812420

>>143812552
even tho bless will heal other things like pets and idiot operatives it only takes in account the party HP.

quick /wfg/, give me your CUTEST ivara picture!

>>143812678
Primal Fury's range is still shit

Primed Blunderbuss when

>>143813116
I was talking about chinkframe version's range. I know ours is shit, always has been. Fuck, it didn't get any actual range at all for the first week it came out. It only visually got bigger, but the hitbox never changed. It took them like 3-4 hotfixes to finally fix it.

>>143812845
that's actually 1 forma more than is needed

Rhino is a hunk

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>>143813094

>>143813637
Rhino's delux skin is THICK and BIG

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>>143813094

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>>143813921

>Ruin Valkyr

FUCK DE

NOW I LITERALLY CAN'T TOUCH HALF OF THE CONTENT I USED TO BE ABLE TO CRUTCH MY WAY THROUGH, YOU FUCKING KIKES.

I CAN'T AFFORD TO ACTUALLY GET GOOD AND I DON'T HAVE FRIENDS, SOLO VALKYR HYSTERIA WAS ALL I FUCKING HAD YOU KIKE FUCKS

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>>143813094

>>143814213
:3

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>>143813770
Lord Zedd a best

>>143814213
That really is cute

so what exactly happened with excal exalted blade? why's so shit rn?

>>143814506
It's not "so shit", it's just considerably worse.
Damage decreases by both distance of the waves and enemies punctured and the Exalted Blind costs 50% of a normal RB

>>143814506
read patch notes, nigger
>damage fall off over range
>loses damage after passing through enemies/walls

>>143814471
>Did a match with a Mag, Vauban, and Frost
>Laser shows everywhere

>>143813526
I did some retarded pure elem build that required 3 forma, but oh well

how am I supposed to beat this thing to get the vipers?

it's too hard. me and my two friends are getting our asses kicked. why did they have to nerf valkyr right before this?

I don't have any of the stuff that 'super good' people use and neither do they.

any tips?

>>143815230
>20 minute survival is too hard

this game is doomed to die, and it's not because of DE

>>143815230
mod properly

>>143815312
>why the fuck are new players so bad?
at least I'm hoping he's new

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What is there to do in game?

>>143815312
To be fair those Hyenas are pretty fucking nasty.

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>>143815592
building my fourth ivara

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>>143815230
Jesus Christ anon.

>>143814690
>>143814757
thanks m8s i love you both and i am no nigger

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>>143815592
>log in
>claim forma
>build forma
>do a nitain alert if there is one
>maybe do sortie depending on season
>log off

>>143815676
>what is radiation

>>143814139
but Valkyr was pretty much untouched, energy drain is still negligible

>>143815827
buy plat

>>143815230

This alert is bullshit, but it should be completably if you people have any amount of team synergy, even with weapons that aren't great.

>>143815592
Jew for plat
Jew for items, then jew those items for plat

>vaykor marelock
>35% status chance
>shotgun

why does DE taunt me like this?

>>143815230
Still easier than the defense mission, Anon.

Try matchmaking. Maybe you'll get stuck with a poor guy that will carry all three of you.

>>143815990
I paired with a group of shitters, a Valkyr and 2 rhinos. As saryn I did 60% of team damage and I only used my gammacor and abilities. Those rockets / explosions / rail gun shots are indeed BS but it's really not that hard. It's plus or minus the "difficulty" of an eximus survival sortie 3. The issue is that it's available to everyone and everyone is shit.

>>143815912
I keep randomly exiting hysteria with no isolator dudes

>>143815990
>>143815775
>>143815479
>>143815312

What type of synergy do we need?

We don't fucking have very many warframes or mods. I can't just magically grab mods and warframes out of fucking nowhere in the next 17 fucking hours.

We do normal survival missions in the void and shit just fucking fine, but this mission is kicking our asses. You don't have to shit down my throat for being fucking confused, I haven't played the game daily for years like some people.

>>143816268
>Marelok
>Shotgun

Nigga is you dumb?

>>143816268
>marelok
>shotgun
Do you even play this game?

>>143816423
>being this salty because he can't get good at this pathetically easy game
You literally have a press-4-to-win frame you fucking shitter, go solo the alert already.

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Hi i have been playing for a week and want to earn some plat with trading i already sold a nikana prime for 70p wat are some other good items to farm and sell i want to be able to buy frost prime without wasting real money

>>143816458
>>143816482
wow im retarded, i just assumed it was

>>143816132
How do you get ze credits for trade tax. I want to play as little as possible.

>>143816553
terrible picture go away

>>143816509
I've tried several times. I'm not salty at the game, i'm asking for advice. I'm not even salty about being insulted, that's perfectly expected. I was just expecting some modicum of assistance alongside the insults.

>pre-installed catalyst on vipers
Not bad.

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>>143816553
Farm corrupted mods, farm void, jew, etc.

>>143816637
You've gotten your advice, now go do it.

>>143816748
>free slot with vipers because you already had a pair

even better

>>143816849
What advice? "Use the Press-4-to-win frame you already have and can't beat the mission with to beat the mission"?

>>143816423
I feel bad for you and I want to help you, but I'm tired and I don't think I can be bothered

post IGN, maybe someone will be willing to carry you guys

>>143816553
Some T1 parts, since the table is so fucking saturated with keys that getting it is harder than a T4 mission, Corrupted derelict mods, syndicate mods/weapons.

>>143816423
>I can't just magically grab mods and warframes out of fucking nowhere in the next 17 fucking hours.
except you fucking can, the progression is piss easy in this game if you actually know what youre doing

you already have a frame that's LITERALLY INVINCIBLE, just find the mods to build her for hysteria

>>143816637
What weapons and frames do you have anon. What weapons and frames do your friends have?

A medium or minimum slow nova
A Loki or ash that can invis
A saryn with spores and miasma (miasma for temporary stun)
A nyx with chaos

You can take whatever weapons you want.

>>143816942
You have a frame that can go invincible for literally 20 minutes.
Go fucking do it you useless piece of trash.
Valkyr is so mindless to mod, holy shit.

>>143816914
And the best part of all?

I got to watch my sexy Nova get sandwiched and gang raped between three bursas, repeatedly humping me into the floor until I got stuck in the wall in a corner.

>>143815230
oh anon its quite simple
you have to _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________GIT GUD SHITTER

>>143813665
That's not Ivara, that's a horse

>>143817031
>>143817108
I already have rage and shit. That doesn't help because I am constantly getting kicked out of it and then I die right afterwards because she's like a piece of paper as soon as it drops with barely any forwarning.

>>143817042
We'd have to build a Nova.

But how is Loki invis supposed to help, particularly? Does Chaos actually help much in this case? I don't get it.

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>>143816553
I know a way you can earn some plat :3

>>143815230
Jesus anon, just post your IGN, someone is bound to take pity on you and help.

>>143817357
I don't feel like having people associating my IGN with the level of vitriol being spat at me.

>>143817339
Invis Loki or ash is to revive your dumb asses. Bonus points if your Loki has irradiating disarm in which you can sub the nyx for something else, like nekros that has long strong shadows of the dead.

>>143817357
IGN: Higgus

>>143817467
A mystery then, why someone so sensitive would ever come here in the first place.

>>143817339
stop walking into nullifier bubbles then

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it's ogre

>>143817467
I was gonna help out but alright man, if you don't want any help. Can't anymore, I've got a pie to go bake, but see if you can't get an Ivara to help you out, as she can just make invisibility bubbles.

>>143817770
huh?
>not saryn

>>143817357
ok fine, its Wiawyr
and pls dont call me a shitter

>>143817853
DUDE, SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>143817770
What does this mean

>>143817467
no one really cares who you are

Don't let these jaded fucks ruin your fun that you have with your friends. Everyone here is just mad at DE for their shit game that doesn't do a good job of teaching the playerbase on how to be good. But once you figure that shit out, you realise that this game is really fucking easy.

Also learn how to ask the right questions if you don't want to get shit on in the general. Or on any 4chan board for that matter, I feel you already know this though. At the very least throw away your pride if you truly accept that you're a shitter

>achieved neutral with Loka
>still a write-off with Perrin
>he gives me the next title speech even though I haven't clicked on it yet
>his eyes are shut tight the entire time
He he trying to say he'll ignore my past transgressions if I give him plat?

Dammit, I'm reluctant to be their goy toy now.

Is there anyway to make the Wraith Twin VIpers not shit? or should I just sell them and keep the weapon slot.

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Please, someone mercy kill this frog.

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>>143817770
THEY KNOW
No they don't, because that's fake

>>143818053
At least it's not red and black >>143729437

>>143817467
>vitriol
Come on, man. You could've done way better to hide the fact that you're from reddit or are a newfag in general. I'm disappointed.

>>143818176
Since when has vitriol been a buzzword?

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>>143818147
Don't worry, Anon. I got that covered, too.

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>>143808424
>ywn spill your seed in becca for reproductive purposes

Excalibur still worth the reactor just for pub RJ recruit channel focus farming? or did the trinity nerfs fuck that over too?

>>143818340
>>143818176
There's literally nothing wrong with using less common words in your sentences, I do it all the time.

So as it turns out, Mag's actually not that bad. Fix her scaling a bit and she'll be great.

>>143817203
LEWD ANON.
Now turn it into a lewd pastebin

>>143817467
IronwolfFaggot, is that you?

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>>143817853
:^)

>>143817309
But its Ivursa, who is majestic will cuddle with you like Ivara.
Then fuck you right after

>>143814139
>a real valkyr shitter
>with the wrong build all this time
>cant figure out the efficiency build

>>143818510
>So as it turns out, Mag's actually not that bad. Fix her scaling a bit and she'll be great.
Literally for 5 threads now people have been saying this.

Her being bad was a meme.

>>143819131
>>143818510
I found her to be awful. How are you guys playing her? And please don't say CP build

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>>143815592
if you are hardcore grinder
>build weapon fodder of the week
>do sorties
>run raids
>consider conclave and regret it due to P2P hosting
>plot to farm something, preferably void
>make a prime set
>consider selling it or building it
>get yourself something nice from the traded plat
>regret the game has no direction whatsoever

eventually the game will beat you and you will do this
>buidl weapon fodder of the week
>level it on sorties
>cheese conclave because of regret you got that one syadana
>become irked at the possibility of doing void defense for the 9th time this weekend for something you cant get
>buy prime parts
>leave it to level after you finish formaing the FOTM that will be nerfed on next big update
>realize you need to farm dukats and prime shit to sell
>jew on trade chat because you cant take one more round of braindead void interception defense or survival even with a premade
>regret the game, consider quitting but realize you have no willpower left to do so

>>143816423
>isolator dudes
bursta green bubbles will take you out of hysteria

its what they are. tiny nullifuckers they throw at you.

>>143817770
its ogre.

RIPIPIP thats dumb, we will just replace it with another area effect proc

>>143818034
get them to 30 then sell

thats about it.

>>143815757
Why do people build multiples of frames? you don't get MR so there must be a reason...

>>143819413
its all theres left

use magnerize to give cover and fracturing crush to end grineer. against corpus she definitively lost it, and magnetize is no replacement.

mesa is also better, just not the rework she was supposed to get for endgame.

>>143820058
waifuism

orkpower has abandoned us. he has 5 trinities and about the same number of trinity prime.

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>>143813094

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I've been out of the grindfest after the potato kids, and now i feel the urge to come back

Tell me whats new so i can kill that urge and not reinstall this game

>>143820173
If people say CP Mag is good, then we have very different definitions of "good"

>>143819413
I literally use that, and I'm completely fine.

>>143820173
Not him, but I actually do the same method against Corpus as Grineer. But I think it may be due to me Magnetic Proc the Corpus and Crush gains extra damage from magnetic proc'd enemies

Somehow I realize it MIGHT be sleek coding, but Polarize sometimes straight up ignore Corpus shields and kill their health. As I said it might be sleek.

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>>143820058
>you don't get MR so there must be a reason...

The most reasonable motive for multiple warframes would be to ease focus farming, as some anon showed us with his 4-5 excaliburs.

I do it because...

>>143820279
>waifuism

:'(

>>143820497
you are using polarize to eliminate armor? its crush you have to use

>>143820587
one of her skills deals more damage with magnetic proc, likely the explosion of polarize is killing them because they have the proc

>>143820652
>>143820279
Focus farming, huh? just lenses of different schools on each one? that makes sense.
If everyone in here is a futafag or waifufag I am just going to up and quit the game right now though.

Furframe when? I can get behind that.

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>>143820279
All hope is lost.

>>143820707
>>143820587
What am I missing about CP Mag? What's the point when CP aura exists? Why do people place such high emphasis on removing armor when good guns have zero trouble with sortie enemies? Is Mag basically a worse Banshee (i.e. a buff frame)?

>>143820735
>is a furfag
>thinks he holds any merit
Yiff in hell.

>>143815884
>radiation

The last pubtard i've seen using radiation was during the first proxy alert.

That motherfucker took out a third of the team, and almost destroyed the defense objective, because his shit proc'd

It proc'd a second time, and instakilled the objective.

So i'd say fuck off with radiation

>>143820763
>Become that bastion that defends allies using powerful healing
F

>>143821037
It's a meme to detract NORMIES and shitters from mags real potential. She only has one infinite scaling ability. Let the forums think she's shit so she gets buffed and receives even more utility.

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>>143820763
>Just about to get trinity because she looks so cool
>gets nerfed
ffffffffffFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK

>>143820468
Trinity nerf
Nektos desecrate nerf

>>143821269
Don't worry, you can still be an EV cuck :^)