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Avenger Edition

Previously, >>143675729

>[Kintoki gacha till 1.6]
- Just Kintoki, no other rate up servants or any new CEs

>[Story half ap quests till 8.6]
- Oni event requires you to complete America so better hurry up if you'ven't finished the story

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Oni and swimsuit events sometime in future
- Altera, Arash, Andersen, Boudica, Carmilla, D'Eon, Liz, Martha, Marie and Tamamo Cat have joined level 10 bond club
- 3 new dailies added

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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LIZ THREAD
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STRONGEST
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Who is this? How does she relate to GOLD?
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>>143703416
Wrong picture.
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>>143703416
Is there anything Bryn doesn't make great? I want her to be paired more with Siegfried and Atilla though
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A surprising amount (mostly made by the same people)
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S-Suki

thread
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>>143703416
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>>143703497
If you don't know that much by now you can leave.
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>>143703542
>>143703623
Take this, gentle anon.
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>>143703623
Kirai
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Literal cancer.
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>>143703715
get this whore away from me
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Xth for laser beam guaranteed to blow your mind
Anytime~
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>>143703701
pls no bully, I just want to know more lore
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Best pairing.
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>>143703715
Thank you anon, they are both cutest
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Xth for best archer
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>>143703091
I like it. I like her.

Now if only the gacha would fucking finally come.
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Irisviel is the cutest.
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>>143704073
Can't fool me manjew
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>>143703701
Cutest GOLD
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>>143704080
They're more like siblings than lovers. Gudako and Karna make for a pretty cute pair.
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I love you Gilgamesh!
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>>143703942
I didn't know people made art of Bryn with Siegfried where Sieg is safe.
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How come Sieg isn't a servant in this?

He's the best Type-Moon character in years.
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>>143704194
One where he is not safe. He should be fine though since Romantia is only B+, as long as he takes care of his back
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>>143703870
No, this lesson has been taught multiple times here before. Google Ibaraki Douji and come back within an hour with a full paragraph report on what you've learned written in your own words.

Hint: A-Yokai-A-Day
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>there are people that hate alter cu

thats sad.
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>>143703542
I almost never see her with Atilla.
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>>143704646
He's popular enough.
A few haters don't mean anything.
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>>143704646
Nice fanfic tier OC shit
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>>143704646
He's no Kintoki
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>>143704813
Wasted potential, Siegfried also needs to be with Atilla more since they are both white haired autists with tattoos and are cute
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>>143704646
>Boring spin on an existing character who is nothing but "MUH EDGE, MUH FIGHTING AND ETERNAL WAR" and his meme-whore cancer attached to him
Easily two of the worst additions to the game
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>>143704646

Cu hates Alter Cu. He's a mockery of everything that made Cu such a great hero.
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>>143704646
That's some hideous typesetting and speech bubble cleaning.
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>>143705059
I think he meant Cu Alter, not Saber Alter.
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>>143704381
I never thought of it that way.
>Romancia is only B+
>Siegfried is only hurt above rank A
>Therefore, Siegfried will be fine
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>>143705257
As long as you take care of his back as you promised him everything will be daijobu
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>>143705376
That's going to be hard. His back is really broad, you know.
Really... broad...
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>tfw you will never caress Siegfried's back
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>>143705376
>>143704381
>Siegfried
>being safe
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>>143705773
>you will never give him a back massage and tease his weak spot to hear he moan
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>>143705848
I want to eat that chocofried
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It's been a while since the scatfags spammed pictures and shit up the thread. What happened to them?
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>>143706042
discordfags got bored of falseflagging as Scatfags because it was so obvious
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>>143706042
They were reported.
They'll be back when their ban expires.
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>>143705754
>>143705981
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>>143706042
It's not actual scatfags but the few same shitposters that just spam pictures of whoever they want for attention. The general has been pretty dead, and such aimless shitposting must get old even for those autists.
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If DW changes Cu Alter's sprite and gets rid of his high heel like they did with Scat will you like him then?
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>>143706668
No. He's still boring. Shima Drill my shit up just made it worse.
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>>143705858
>tfw you will never brush his hair while you get to stare at his back
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>>143706668
They should also take of the overabundance of spikes in him. The ones in his knee are just ridiculous. Which is a shame since his Gay bulge in his last sprite is cool
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>>143707009
>never finding his reverse scale and touching it
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How did they fuck up this bad on "EMIYA?" What's next? Mumei Kiritsugu?
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>>143707234
Extra Emiya is known as No Name. Can you guess what the Japanese for no name is retard?
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>>143707197
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>>143707234
Mummy servant when?
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>>143706783
>Shima will never put the same amount of effort into his FGO designs as Red Dragon
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>>143707301
Nou Naimu?
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Fluffy fluffy
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>>143707380
It's a real shame.
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>>143707452
No.
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>>143707578
Then what the fuck is it?
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>>143707489
/fit/ fluffy
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When?
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>>143707692
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In your opinion, what are some cool points in history that we could have visited in fgo?
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>>143707851
Does she not have the usual Avenger NP gen?
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>>143707234
KISAMA
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>>143707692
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>>143707956
THE FUCKING CRUSADES

IN JERUSALEM
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Are there replays of the soccer up yet? Couldn't watch it live because
>6 am
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>>143707956
9/11
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>>143708153
That's obviously where Camelot is set. It's not like "real life" King Arthur happened in the 1200s.
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>>143708276
Yeah.
Stop living in the past.
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>>143708280
>Camelot in Jerusalem
Fucking how.
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>>143708280
Just like 1783 America was about the revolutionary war right? Oh no wait

The order is going to be Round Table doing Round Table things.
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>Round Table things
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>>143708426
Same way we got Indians and Celts in America
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What's that green icon that pops for fionn after he uses his np, looks like a little man
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>>143708852
That's different.

It would be like setting the America Order in Thailand.
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>>143708882
Negate debuffs?
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>>143708280
>Fuyuki order is in Fuyuki
>Orleans order is in and around Orleans
>Septem order is in and around the seven (septem) hills of Rome
>Okeanos order is in the ocean
>London order is in London
>E Pluribus Unum order is in America

>Camelot order will be in Jerusalem and the middle east guys
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>>143709075
Camelot is a castle, not a country.
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Is the main plot of Grand/Order already coming to a close? I seem to recall there were only seven singularities in time that could be journeyed to.
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>>143708828
I wanna put my dick between her round tables
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>>143709329
The Solomon shit is ending but GO is making too much money for them not to do another one.
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>>143709329
It'll end in August.
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>>143709409

How are they going to beat him, anyways?

None of the Servants acquired so far stand a chance against him, even if they all teamed up against him simultaneously.
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xth for best Saber!
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Tale as old as time
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>Still no Kiara
>>143709526
You'll disvoer Grand Ascension, upgrade seven of your Servants and beat him.
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>>143709075
What if we bring the Crusades to Camelot
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>>143709526
>Grand ascensions are coming next chapter
>How are they going to beat him, anyways?
Anon
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>>143709526

Monkey King could solo Solomon and all the other Servants in Type Moon single-handedly.
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>>143709526
Lancelot can do it!
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>>143707956
They should have had the America chapter in Ireland instead. Still kinda pissed about the chapter. It made no real sense for Fionn and Diarmuid to be on Cu Alter's side. Its like making Astolfo or Shakespeare an ally to the round table just because they're both British. They could have had the Fianna fighting against the evil revived Cu Chulainn and Medb.
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>>143709526
Throw quartz at it until it dies
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>>143709623
Nips like their beauty and the beast trope.

Who is Gaston, then?
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>>143709669
There aren't enough muslims in Camelot for a crusade
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>>143709669
Now that would be great.
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>>143709669
What if we bring Camelot to Crusades? It'll probably can fly there
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>>143709710

I think the logic is that Alter Cu united all of Ireland under his rule, so the result of that is that every Irish hero wanted to/had no choice not to fight under his banner.
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>>143709810
We also don't have enough crusaders for a crusade. In fact we have no crusaders at all.
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>>143709750
Jason
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>>143709750

Theseus, I guess?

It's pretty strange that the second most hailed hero of Greece has gotten literally zero mentions at all.
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When
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>>143709930
We need some stardust crusaders
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>>143709846
>dat engrish
Mana recharge needed
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>>143709810

Sir Palomides is a converted Saracen, does that count?
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>Jerusalem is just going to be Saberwank - the order
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>>143710109
>converted
I don't think former muslims count, no. He also isn't in the Nasuverse.
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>>143709992
>tfw
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>>143709930
I hope a crusader gets put in Edison style.
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>>143709329
FGO2 is already confirmed
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>>143709198
Well, I guess Camelot really was saved and lasted another 600 years with immortal King Arthur.
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>>143710126

Yeah, because Garden of Avalon wasn't enough Saberwank to last a millenia unfortunately

>>143710160

Just because he hasn't appeared yet doesn't mean he doesn't exist, anon. It's no surprise that he hasn't, given his main storyline is intertwined with Tristan's more than anyone else's, and Tristan hasn't appeared at all either.
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>>143709974
Theseus was mentioned in the last TMAce. Just repeating what I've heard here, but he seems like a nice guy. He regrets killing Asterios, and recognizes that the real monster was the king. Unfortunately, he didn't realize this until afterwards because of the bull mask and stuff.
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>>143710212
>Time disruption
>Saber Alter is in charge of Camelot
>Doesn't fuck everything up because she isn't an autistic idiot
>Eternal Camelot Empire is wrecking history
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>>143710126
Good GO is needing it
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>>143710258
Anon, the Nasuverse only has a set number of Rounds, and we know who they all are.
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>>143710126

>Implying it wasn't going to be before

>>143710258

>Not liking Seibahwank
>Playing F/GO when she is already confirmed to be Grand Saber

Pshhh
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>>143710297
>regrets killing a monster

Hope he never gets into the game
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>>143710319
>Time disruption
>Saber Alter marries Morgan
>Merlin is not trapped, because Morgan is too busy being pregnant
>Mordred actually has parents now
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>>143710319
It's obviously just renamed Jerusalem. It was always going to involve the Round Table. It would be one thing if they had changed the year, but that they didn't shows that they haven't radically altered the core plot. My guess is that it was never just literal Jerusalem, but a just a large map covering several countries with Jerusalem as the focal point.
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>>143710297
>He regrets killing Asterios
Even Fluffy recognises that he was a child killing sadist who only gets redeemed through magical time travel bullshit and the power of tight lolipussy. I don't see how Theseus would regret killing that even if he found out why Fluffy was down there in the first place.
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>>143710297

That sounds pretty good at least. Theseus is definitely a hero of regrets, given all his fuckups, including but not limited to:

-forgetting to put up white sails on the way home from Crete causing his father to suicide
-attempting to kidnap Persephone with his bro, only to get his shit pushed in by Hades and punished by being stuck petrified and tormented by Furies forever
-after being rescued by Heracles from Tartarus, his son sleeps with his wife and he accidentally kills him with one of his three wishes granted by Poseidon not realizing the adulterer was his own son
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>>143710598
>Girls marrying girls
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>>143710598
>everyone is happy
>guinevere and lancelot don't need to hide their love
>lancelot and gawain are still friends
>tristan never fucks off and his tragic love story never happens
You have to destroy everything to fix time
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>>143708828
Her cleavage must be sweaty all the time
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>>143710438

There were more knights under Arturia than just the Round Table, though. The Rounds were just her most trusted and powerful vassals.
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>>143710748
>Guinevere
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>>143710654
Didn't he also screwed Ariadne?
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>>143710620
>Nasu straight up says that he rewrote pretty much all of America before release because it took so long
>Sakurai and Higashide talk about how Nasu overtakes all their orders and writes half of them usually in the first place
>Camelot is coming out after America
>Numerous ways to have Camelot in the 13th century because time travel bullshit and pseudo-history
>Takeuchi pushing for maximum seibahwank every day

Whatever Jerusalem was going to be, it's dead.
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>>143710813
Other knights will probably be saved for Proto Saber's Round Table. Sounds like a few of his are different so far.
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>>143709958
How could I forget? He's perfect.
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>>143710748
How are you supposed to rule a country without a queen? That's why Saber married Guinevere in the first place.
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>>143710908

Oh yeah, that too. Had to leave her behind despite wanting to make her his wife because Athena was a cunt.

Then there was that whole debacle with kidnapping loli Helen to be his wife, only for her to be taken back while he was in Tartarus.

And then there was his attempt to kidnap one of the Queens of the Amazons, which ended with her dead and him alone again.

What a sorry love life he led.
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>>143710789
Its okay. she's the Storm Lord, dragonic leader of the Wild Hunt, so sweats only as much as ghosts.
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>>143710813
The way GoA paints it, the Rounds are the ones who quest and do all the nobility shit exclusively. There are like a hundred possible Rounds from all the Arthurian shit people have written but if Nasu went out of his way to cut it down to a small specific number and make them the central focus the idea that all the rest are still there as important knights but just aren't on the Round Table doesn't really work.
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>>143710940
I liked that one idea in a previous thread that Arturia is leading all the Knights of the Round Table on a crusade for the Grail in the Middle East, and you team up with the Hashashin to stop her.
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>>143710974
Greek Gilgamesh.
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>>143710598
>main villain is Saber Alter Alter who's Morgan's OC donut steel
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>>143710940

>Implying
>Not trusting Nasu when his involvement makes the story better while Sakurai is known for the godawful Rome chapter
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>>143711103
Athena was not a cunt only to Diomedes. And well there is a reason why people remember Perseus as the only greek hero with a happy ending
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>>143710776
>Implying Lancelot wont fall in love with Morgan
>Implying Gawain will be able to keep it in his pants and not cause something scandalous with somebody's wife
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>>143710654
>his son slept with his wife
>getting cucked by his own blood
>stopping this is somehow a fuckup
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Reading the Strange Fake Volume 3 spoilers in the pastebin, am I misreading this or is Sigma supposed to become a lancer?
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>>143711159

>Support name implies we will team up with a Knight from the cream of the crop era
>Wanting to be in the Hassan's side when they are known jobbers

Kek
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>>143710654
> his son sleeps with his wife and he accidentally kills him

His son was the accident
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>>143711225
I'm not saying the order will be bad, I'm saying it's been changed fundamentally.

It will be bad though because it's Round based.
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>realised I have no crit generator
>realised nearly all of my gold servants are art servants beside amakusa and Cu alter

what point is there now? I regret wasting quartz and mats on Jannu Horta and leveling one of her skill to 10
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>>143711292

It's something he regrets, not necessarily something morally incorrect.
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>>143703503
Wrong ship
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>>143711410
Savage.
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>>143711335
>Reading the Strange Fake Volume 3 spoilers in the pastebin

link ?
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>>143711159
>1273
>July
>The Sultan Baybars captures the last remaining stronghold of the Hashashin sect, al-Kahf Castle.

Doesn't look good for them. This is also the only event that happens in that year that is even remotely connected to anything Fate.
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>>143711403
Well, that same prediction also said that the Hashashin would have one knight on their side, Proto Arthur, so he could be the support.
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>>143711465
>he fell for the quick meme star generator
It would be better if I had a god damn 2030 though
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>>143711626
>tfw I do

but 8 stars are honestly not a lot right?
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>>143711795
Impregnating the kouhai
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>>143711795
>literally no personality
Shipping
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>>143709976
>500 saved quartz so far

By the time she does happen hopefully I will be near 750 if I only roll once in a blue moon.
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>>143711795
Sexual.
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>>143711731
It's not that much but
>andersen has maxed skills so 9 stars and 40% crit damage per 3 turns
>on top of 8 more from CEs
Jannu crits like a fucking truck and I don't use quick cards at all.
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>>143711795
shit rolls
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>>143711795
>Karna just wants to rub her head

B E S T
O
Y
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>Heracles is only four stars
>fucking Jeanne, weak as piss, is five
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>>143711932
>tfw same situation but at 950 quartz
>she won't be coming out in any known upcoming event except for maybe Babylon, and that's months away
The urge to just roll some is rising, help
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>>143711795
Holding hands with Edmond
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>>143710789
This isn't sexy? Sweaty tits sweaty tit smell, sweaty tit taste.
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>>143711884
But Gudako doesn't have a dick though, yet.
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>>143712067
>dark skin
>Karna
Pretty sure that's Darius because of the wrist hoops.
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>>143712127
>stars are powerlevels
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>>143712248

She can just borrow Saber's, since she's not using it. I'm sure Fou would gladly perform the transplant free of charge.
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Flat Saber a best and the cutest!
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>lost my account with Bryn
>thought I was finally free from this hell but I automatically went and made another account
I'm a dumbass.
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Her autism is so endearing.
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>>143712313
I'm assuming Karna and the artist based it off this
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>>143712417

It's a shame all her sanity is lost as Berserker, though. She's legitimately waifu material.
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>>143712495
I always think that black stuff is an error.
Did his spear looked like that in extra/apo?
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>>143712313
You forget that Karna has a giant-ass body stocking as apart of his armor. That's why it's so dark.

Also no damned way Darius has such tiny hands. He's be grabbing Dantes' hand too if it were him.
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>tfw no jeannu alter
At least i have Vanilla Jeannu on my alt which i like even more desu senpai

Why is both Jeanne are such best girls?
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New Roman when? Which one would you like to get, there are plenty of them.

Maybe a general this time like Scipio or Aetius.
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>>143712313
Karna wears a bodysuit with only his chest exposed what a slut
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Why is the Avenger class so perfect?

We need a few more before people can start making a Avengers parody.

Who would Jeanne, Dantes, and Angra be?
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>we didn't get Nero alter in the Rome order

Just kill me now.
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>>143712495
>>143712617
Yeah, I guess you got a point there.
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>>143711282
Morgan is a siscon
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>>143712495
So what exactly is the jumpsuit thing? His actual skin so he's really just always in a metal thong? Just cloth he's wearing? Part of the golden armor itself?
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>>143712648
Fuck Romans, give me Hannibal or Arminius.
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>>143712127
>jannu, weak as piss

Thats not even close to correct in lore. She is something designed to control or put in line all the servants in the war when summoned. Her flag barrier blocked an EX rank nuke, and her sword took a literal miracle to survive even partially. You might be just shitposting to bump up your own guy.
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>>143704646
I love Cuzilla but i hate Medb
Medb literally is the reason why Cu had shit life.
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>>143712847
lingerie
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>>143712329
Sounds like it could be the plot of that new CCC doujin.
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>There are people play F/GO now when it is Easy Modo

I want to go back to the August and July when France was the bane of everyone existence and everyone hated those fucking Wyverns.
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>>143712957
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>>143712502
They hint that she's like that all the time, and being berserker didn't really change her. Having madness is just her own mentality manifested as a skill.
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>>143712339
Big boobs are absolutely halal
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>>143712886

Her flag breaks apart the more damage it absorbs, and she can't even use her sword in most situations because it produces insane collateral damage and automatically kills herself.

Without the Ruler class buffs, she'd be a very poor Saber. What kind of Saber can't even use their own sword?
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>>143712664
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>>143712957
I never got through France until Honnouji. Only ever rolled with Maint. quartz until then and managed to get three five stars.
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>>143712957
I am hoping the new event is actually challenging
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>>143712957
Posting this one just because.
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>>143713135
>having hope
Why are you here?
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>>143713037

Why is Arash such a qt3.14?
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>>143712847
It's his skin.
>Though he possessed his father's brilliant authority, his form was stained black.
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>>143713082
Meanwhile Jannu horta can use her Sword and edgy flames.
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>>143713212
Manslut.
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>>143713178
Me on the left
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>>143689969
Sure
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DE aru ka
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>>143713178
>tfw Bryn is not voiced by Kuroko

Da Vinci event ruined her for me.
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>>143713257

You've really got his style down pat, very impressive.
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>>143713257
It makes me sad looking at this and knowing Nasu and Takeuchi won't see it. It's great anon, great
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>>143713376
That voice doesn't suit her at all.

FGO story and event dialogue will never be fully voiced anyway.
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>>143713212
He just is, and also what this guy said>>143713248
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>>143713257
Where's the nose?
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>>143712248
>Literally can go to her room and change gender at will
>Somehow incapable of sprouting a dick
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>>143711221
Its Saber Alter Lily being a Slutty imouto who wants to shove her dragon dick in onee-sama's pussy
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>>143713658
Who did Jeanne score with this time?
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>>143713795

Whatever we get, I hope it's some variant of Saber marrying Morgan le Fay and making babies with her.

But that particular idea is amazing, and hot as hell.
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>>143713656
nose ? what it's that ? Takeuchi don't know noses.
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>>143713257
10/10 anon.
Are you doing anyone else from last thread?
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>>143710748
Go cry to the King about it
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>yfw Camelot is about Arturia trying to defend her kingdom from an Army led by Arthur Alter
>yfw Arthur shows up in the last chapter and fights his alter self to the death
>yfw they are both story unlocks

Will you whale?
>>
Convince Attila FGO is good Civilization
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>>143714110
>arthur
It's shit
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>>143713247
Well its not like Edgy Flames is even near the Potency of La Pucelle

Its just a cursed flame attack and that's it
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>>143714110
There's nothing that could get me to whale for this game.
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>>143713961
>143713178
>>143713386


Thank you, guys. Don't they have an email or something? Someone can send it and MAYBE one of them will se it, maybe.

I'm thinkin in Charlemagne or El Cid(I liked his swords).

>>143713656
The what?
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>>143714178
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How's Kerrytugu?
I rolled him.
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>>143714110
I want Majin Saber to be the final boss

She is manipulating Solomon so not only can she destroy Fate once and for all but the entire Nasuverse as well so everything returns to nothing.
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>>143713257
We need more Saberfaces. What other hero can be saber faced.
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>>143714290
Not only you have great drawings, you also have great taste in what to draw anon. The lack of El Cid and Charlemagne is criminal
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>>143714324
Not strictly better than NP 5 Assassin Shiki if you have her. You can do some meme setups and other shenanigans with his taunt, though.
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>>143714441

Hippolyta isn't Saber-faced, but her successor, Penthesilea, could be.
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>>143714178
Why should I lie to her?
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>>143714317
Boy if only Altera could pass judgment onto Granjew. I am so tired of Unite and Fight bullshit, just collusion and cliques everywhere.
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>>143714317
I love how TM/DW/Aniplex is giving Riyo full control of his comic.

The best way to appeal to fans is to have someone that is going through this shit give their opinion as well.
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>>143714324
He's got great utility, fittingly. Very good Art Assassin, on par with Shiki, but I'd take Shiki into a fight sooner than I would him, unless I needed a taunt.
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>>143714441
Charlemagne considering he is basically the frank king arthur, if we want to go full meme tier Eve, Pandora and Jesus
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>>143714317

Saber's deadpan glare while serving as a bikini babe there kills me so hard
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>>143714501
>Hippolyta isn't Saber-faced, she just has her exact hair style
>Get a picture of her in SF
>No, she's just Saberface
Thanks Narita
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>>143714441
What hero CAN'T be Saberfaced? The sky's the limit.
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>>143714649
Animals?
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>>143714705

>Saber Lion
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Cutie
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>>143714501
You do realize this means Achilles will want to fuck Seibah and variants because they look like Penthesilea?

Seriously Achilles got a boner over how Murdery Penthe was
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>>143714775
Fuck, you're right.
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>>143714832
Every character already wants to fuck the Saberfaces though
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>>143714598
I want Dietrich to be one
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>>143714820
Disgusting.
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>>143714775
I will laugh if Saber Lion is our Welfare Berserker
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>>143714832
Achilles would get a murder boner.
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>>143714832

Achilles seems like the sort not to fall for petty things like appearance, but rather glorious things like battle prowess and honor. He never courted Helen, for one thing, even when literally every other hero of his era, including Diomedes and Odysseus, did.
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>>143714938
I want Athena to be one so Diomedes can waifufag over seibah if he sees her
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>>143714820
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>>143712668
Can't wait for the class to be mostly Alter garbage.
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>>143715074

Heracles seems to qualify for the class without having to be Alter, so there's that.
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>>143715153
>without having to be Alter
>gets into the class by being altered by grail mud
>personality does a 360 change
Herc is an Alter
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>>143707851
When there's nothing and DW needs to release another special snowflake with bloated stats for whales to spend their bank accounts on.
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>>143714984

Hector didn't court Helen either, actually. He was also the only Trojan to be kind and gentle to her while she was in Troy.
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>>143714290
>Tizona and Colada will never be a np

That makes me so sad.
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>>143714598
>>143714456

Any ideas of what to do with charlemagne?
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>>143713951
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>>143715285
Well he was happily married and Helen loved his brother, so that's to be expected
>>143715327
Lot's of christian motifs I would say
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>>143715153
Could Odysseus qualify?
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>>143715327

Male Saberface trap.

I'm kidding. Mostly.

If you've got balls, you could make him a bearded manly man like Iskandar, there's not nearly enough of those in Fate.
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>>143715395
I still think Ganondorf whenever I see Iskandar
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>>143715429
Don't think so, yeah he was fucked over by the gods but most of the time he deserved it, he also didn't seem to be one to get vengeful or hateful over it. Also he had a happy ending unlike most greek heroes. Want a greek avenger? Sisiphus and Tantalus
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>>143715456
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>>143715442
So Hana no Miyako Arturia basically.
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>>143715241

He's too different from his normal self to be an Alter, having lost all his divinity and all that. We've never really seen his true personality to begin with, so there's really nothing to be 'altered' about him.
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>>143715442
He is like d'eon tho. He can change sex.

>>143715319
You can do something with Colada tho. Like scares bad heroes or heroes with "evil" afinity and/or when you're in presence of a "worthy" one, it boost El Cid/Colada mana/power whatever bullshit. It doesn't have to be an NP. Colada and Tizona are cool anyway.
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>>143714178
IT ISN'T
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>>143715442
>>143715779

Ups. I thought you were talkin about Yamato, sorry,
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I wonder how would they make a Genghis/Napoleon servant without making their NPs just copies of IH
>>143713257
I love it anon, hoping you will someday make Diomedes/Theseus
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>>143711225
>while Sakurai is known for the godawful Rome chapter
And the much less godawful London chapter.
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>>143715924

After Darius III, it seems being able to summon armies isn't so unique to Iskandar. What's unusual about Iskandar is probably that he does it via Reality Marble, which gives him the terrain advantage.
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>>143715973
>still godawful
London is still one of the worst chapters
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>>143715734
>He's too different from his normal self to be an Alter
That's kind of the point? Alters are Servants who have been corrupted by a wish or grail mud and get changed personalities, appearances and abilities to an extent. Saber Alter, Lancer Alter, Jeanne Alter, Cu Alter, and Archer/Avenger Herc in SF is, guess what, corrupted by grail mud which changes his personality, abilities and presumably appearance. I don't see how losing divinity somehow stops him from being an Alter, all the Alters lose skills.

They also mention his personality before the change and he was a heroic and great dude who was going to kill himself three times over rather then having to take out an innocent or survive on harvested lives, and post change he's totally fine with it and goes out of his way to snipe masters. He's Herc Alter.
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>>143716023
Yeah but Darius case seems like something to be a foil to Iskandar, also they look undead
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>>143716203
>>143716023
They are literal skeletons, presumably how the immortals have been translated into TMverse as literal undead.
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>>143715779
Wasn't Tizona the one that did that thing? And yes, El Cid is waaay cooler than a lot of the actual servants. But I guess he would be like a 3* Saber, a la par with Cú, just scratching the 4* tier.
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>>143714110
Majin saber is actually okita alter
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>>143716392
Spookiest np
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>>143716023
That's the point, Darius NP is a blatant rip off of IH and Okita has one too although she never uses it. Every fanmade general Servant ever copies IH as well since the dude making it is creatively bankrupt. Even if you ignore how IH was supposed to be unique to Iskander and the entire gimmick making him strong in the first place, if they made it the NP of fucking Genghis and Napoleon it would just be a cop out.
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>>143703301
Fluffy thread
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I don't want to farm for Chaos Claws, fuck the chimera, fuck those bullshit crits, fuck this shit. Fuck ascending TamaCat, she's retarded anyways.
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>>143716512
Napoleon version would just have his canons. Genghis on the other hand is a good enough warrior that something different can be thought for him
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>>143716443
Okita Alter is Ryougi
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>>143715779
>>143715902

Charlemagne is the first Holy Roman Emperor as well as more or less the French analogue to King Arthur, so if you wanted to be creatively bankrupt you could base his appearance on Arthur and Nero leaning more towards Nero.

In general use a lot of red, the color of royalty in that era, and Christian symbols like crosses.

Making him a chick would be a crowd pleaser, but it's probably too cliche by this point. Astolfo is a pretty boy trap, but there's nothing in Charlemagne's history that supports him also being one.

I don't know, he's tricky.
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>>143716512
Okita's isn't a full army, is it? Just the few dozen Shinsengumi guys.
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>>143716130
>check out the whole shit with "True Archer"
>it's literally Herc
Oh shit nigga. Can he nine lives with his bow? does he got God Hand?
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>>143716612
Napoleons NP is Rage of the Manlet EX
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>>143716649
The "Holy Roman Empire" is more Germany than Rome/Italy, though.
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>>143716728
He can do it with his fists if he wants, no god hand though. But he has an NP which lets him use everything from his 12 works, which includes the nemean lion pelt that seems pretty broken a defense
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>>143716130
The mud stopped being relevant, saber alter in go isnt related to that, jeanne is a fanfic, lancer alter arturia is the same as saber alter and cu alter isnt even corrupted is just acting the way he though a king do things becasue wish not mud. Alters are still a part of the hero anyway (not in jeanne alter case though).

>>143716728
He lose god hand, he have nine lives though and have a np for every labor.
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>>143714382
6 star servant when?
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>>143716649
Have him be an Altera face instead.
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>>143716512

Nothing ever claimed that being able to summon an army was an ability unique to Iskandar. It's something that Saber would never have thought of as a possibility because it's contrary to her entire method of rule. Within the group of those three Kings, IH is unique because it's not based around possessions, but the bonds a king shares with his people.

Alexander the Great is surely not the only guy to have a good relationship with his warriors.
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>>143716660
Okita's is the entire Shinsengumi, who are summoned under the exact same rationale that Iskander summons his. But there were only about 300 Shinsengumi in the first place so it doesn't get higher then that.
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>>143709329
MASHU beats him before dying and you'll get free Grand Caster *5 welfare as gift.
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>>143715924
I don't see why Napoopan would need an IH clone. His NP should be about using canons in a grand battery formation or something.
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>>143716965
Go Nobu's NP but bigger?
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>>143716889
Not him but okita version is still a rm or is just a summon?
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>>143716965
Isn't just that IH but with canons though? But yeah seems like the most reasonable one since canon bombardment was a huge part of his strategy
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>>143716857
How the fuck does Saber Alter being summoned in a fanservice crossover game without Gudako throwing mud at a normal Saber change Heavens Feel and the same mud being used on Herc?

>Alters are a part of the hero except when they aren't
10/10 argument
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>>143710621
Because he was just a child too. He is convinced he's a monster but Theseus saw his shit clearer than he did.
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>>143716857
>>143716807
Holy fucking shit. I guess he is fucking god-tier servant.

Based Herc
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>>143714540
This your first tm joke comic? TM makes fun of itself all the time officially. Koha comic, April fools event, carnival phantasm, capsule servant, etc. They pretty much tell the other writers to banter on them whenever possible, nasu and takeuchi also banter on each other. Latest interview had nasu talking about takeuchi's saber fixation, and he said back how nasu keeps trying to end fate yet comes back to it every year anyway.

Last time someone called out takeuchi on all of his saber clones, he made it a point to immediately make three more
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>>143717036
It's a coat of arms that summons them, I think they can't get too far from it too
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>>143703669
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>>143710319
>>143710598
>Saber Alter
It's obvious Lancer Arturia with her SPEAR OF DESTINY is going to be in Camelot. Besides Merlin, he foretold their meeting in Garden of Avalon.
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...were I to strain to give this a positive spin, I guess the CEs are not, on the whole, bad.

Goddamnit.
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>>143717219
Takeuchi is so fucking based
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>>143717206

He can snipe people from over 20km away with singular arrows powerful enough to smash through buildings and a forcefield noble phantasm that Gilgamesh set up to defend against Enkidu.

He's almost deliberately designed to be a Gilgamesh-killer due to having his Divinity stripped away and his morals removed so that he will target Gil's master.

Remains to be seen if he'll actually succeed or not, though.
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>>143715734
>literally altered by grail mud the same as the other alters
>"yeah but it doesn't count"
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>>143716885
>Nothing ever claimed that being able to summon an army was an ability unique to Iskandar.
The rationale behind it is that Iskander's bonds with his troops and the friendships he made even with enemies and the shared experiences he had fighting on the front lines with them personally made them eternally loyal after death, and it's pushed very heavily that Iskander is the only general in history to have his units trust to that extent. He's unique even in normal history for his conquests and style.

He's not the only person ever to have a good relationship but he didn't have just a good relationship. He massacred peoples and took their warriors in as friends who became his most trusted allies, the guy was ridiculous. Giving that kind of NP to just any commander ever because muh command just screams 'I have no originality'.
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>>143717448

Blackened Berserker was not Heracles Alter. He was still fighting Saber Alter to the bitter end in his mind. The mud alone is not enough to turn a Servant alter.
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>>143716130
>>143716857
>>143717064
The common thread connecting all the Alters is "This is a version of the hero that didn't actually exist during life." Saber Alter came from the Grail mud, Cu Alter and Jeanne Alter came from wishes and singularities, Lancer Arturia Alter comes from legends about leading the Wild Hunt after her death. Santa Alter is just Saber Alter with a hat.

The real question you should be asking if you want to determine if Alcides is technically an Alter or not is if it reflects any part of Herc during life.
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>>143717527
>and it's pushed very heavily that Iskander is the only general in history to have his units trust to that extent

Where?
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>>143717036
She plants a flag, they can't leave within 30 meters of the flag or something. Not a rm at all
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>tfw no Brynhildr

Stuck with these crap ass 4* Sabers end me
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>>143714832
Achilles wants to fuck a lot of things. Including Shota Alex and Atalanta.
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>>143717074
>He is convinced he's a monster
He is a monster. Not only is he literally an evil monster, he really did kill and eat little kids thrown into his maze. Not just for survival, but because he enjoyed tormenting them and making them suffer.

He changes when he finds love and friends but that happens thousands of years after he dies. Theseus might have recognised that he didn't ask to be born and thrown in a maze but regretting killing him sounds real bullshit.
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>>143717527

Yeah, like he's the only guy in history to ever achieve that kind of fame and popularity. Genghis Khan did the exact same thing Iskandar did, except better.
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>>143717626
In Zero? There's whole paragraphs of people reacting to IH and freaking out.
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>>143717695
That's another reason why I hate him in fate, he keeps waifufagging over people he shoudln't waifufag about instead of penthesilea, patroklus and that girl he took as a slave
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>>143717364
This is why I don't roll anymore
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>>143717840
No, I mean "the only guy in history." Where the fuck did you get that part?
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>>143717785
Iskander's whole thing in the Nasuverse is that he conquered lands by winning people's hearts. Genghis Khan conquered lands through rape and pillaging.

Something IH-like doesn't quite reflect Genghis as well as it does Alexander the Great.
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>>143717785
It's not about fame and popularity you idiot. If you are really so historically ignorant that you think Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan were the same type of person or general you really should stop posting.
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>>143717950
That's why I want Genghis just to see how they could make the paralels but I'm afraid they will be lazy and make him le evil iskandar with le evil IH
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>>143717963

>conquered lands and established the largest land empires in their respective eras
>raped, killed, and pillaged en masse, adding the warriors of the conquered to their own armies in order to increase their power
>both became immortal household legends in their respective spheres of influence
>b-but they're nothing alike! h-how could Genghis have a similar NP as the King of Conquerers? y-you're i-ignorant!
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>>143717706
Asterios was just lashing out because he couldn't do anything else. He sought his death. Theseus didn't find a monster, but a broken child who played monster. He regretted killing him because he didn't come for some child abuse bullshit.
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>>143717840
That doesn't mean what you think it does. People when they first saw sabers sword beam were super reacting, did you take that to mean it was the only one?
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>>143717785
Genghis Khan wasn't famous for being on the battlefield with his army conquering. Maybe when he was young but as Khan he mostly send his generals to do the thing.

Being together with his men in such a long campaing is something Alexander is specially famous for and I guess it's kinda implied it's also like that in the Fate universe and the reason he has his NP:
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>>143718209
I wonder if Caesar in the class he thinks is proper for him would have his IH lite
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>>143717785
Conquering isn't destroying and annihilating. Iskandar literally slaps Waver when he assumed he wanted to kill people or humiliate them.
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>>143717950
>. Genghis Khan conquered lands through rape and pillaging.

A reality marble that makes everyone within have every single terrain penalty they could have all at once while removing all bonuses to represent pure desolation of everything you know and love. But he can only use it after you have declined his offer to surrender to him.
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>>143717364
>Wasting his quartz
That's what you get for not waiting for the closing of F/GO gacha
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>>143718098
>they are famous conquerors so they must be exactly the same
>I don't have any comprehension of the campaigns of Alexander and Genghis: the post
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>>143718310
So literally reverse Iskandar?
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>>143717847
He's a Greek hero, he couldn't keep it on his pants. And Alexander fanboyed Achilles since his youth. Imagine if this cute shota looks up you, he'll hit that. He wouldn't be a proper Greek man if he didn't.
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>>143718456
Shota Alex should fanboy more over Aristotle more now that we are talking about it. His teaching were a huge deal in his formation
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>>143717573
Yeah but is kind of a point that that version of a hero that didnt exist in real life is still a part of that hero, saber alter is still a part of arturia as her profile say, cu alter is normal cu trying too hard to copy the shit tier kings he saw in life. A point is france is jeanne asking herself if she really hated the people that burned her so that part of her ended as jeanne alter.
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>>143718295

You're wrong. Conquering can result in destruction and annihilation of the conquered peoples. In fact, that is far more common an outcome than allowing them to remain as their own culture.

>>143718410

>I've run out of space to argue so now I'm not even making arguments anymore

I never said they were exactly the same, but nobody has any basis to claim that Genghis could not have an army Noble Phantasm just because Iskander has one.
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>>143718209
Yeah, but where are you getting "he's the only guy in history" from? Leonidas asked 300 of his men to accompany to certain death and they followed. No thrill of conquest or the promise of adventure, just "we're gonna stand in that canyon and be insufferable immovable cunts until they almost certainly kills us all, so as to give the rest of Greece time to get their shit together."

Exactly where is this "Iskander is the only guy to ever inspire that degree of loyalty, ever"?
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>>143717950
>through rape and pillaging
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>>143718442
Yeah basically, they both conquered a lot and you do want to keep people as unique as possible so this is a different play on that.

Just what I came up with on the spot mind you. It would probably completely cripple some servants that have some place that they can't go or they'd lose all their power or something though.
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>>143718098
Genghis was known for spreading terror and destruction, while Alexander is better known for culture and enlightenment. Please research the Alexander romance.
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>>143718310
Couldn't you just agree to surrender and just backstab him anyway
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I want to fuck da Vinci-chan!
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>>143718098
They are obviously one of the most known conquerors but most of the world has different views on them and their life.

Also if we are still talking about Genghis Khan and his NP being a copy of IH then it makes sense to talk about how the logic to justify IH for Alexader doesn't really apply to Genghis.
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>>143718673
This is fate, the surrendering thing would be magically bound or some shit, maybe he gets command seals for you or something idk. As I said it was just the first thing that came to mind and I wrote it as it came to mind. It's a better play on Ghengis and his mythology than just an army too.
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>>143718603
>You're wrong.

I'm not wrong. The conquering that Iskandar stands for is nothing like that. You should be arguing Nasu or Butcher who wanted the concept to about winning over everyone wholly.
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>>143718615
>Exactly where is this "Iskander is the only guy to ever inspire that degree of loyalty, ever"?
Fate/Zero. In Fate he is the only person ever capable of doing that. This is the same thing as Gil being the oldest and strongest hero, it's not debatable because it's simply the way the setting works.
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>>143718662
Memes aside, a great deal of Genghis success in his conquest came from the fact that he learned from the ones he conquered and used it to his advantage. Not really on the same level of mixing cultures to create something new. But Genghis wasn't as much as an unthinking beast people paint him for
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>>143718563
I'm sure Aristotle wrecked his boypussy too.
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>>143718603
Why would I argue with someone who has no idea what he is talking about? Alexander lead from the front and spread his culture, establishing cities, creating the Hellenic realm, befriending natives and enemies wherever he could and bringing them into the fold as trusted allies, actively avoiding pillaging and burning. One of his greatest regrets was not stopping the destruction of Persepolis.

Genghis on the other hand had burning and pillaging as his main tactic to keep his horse army on the go, and burned China to the ground leaving garrisons to stop revolts rather then to rule with them. They were completely different types of people.

Their similarity is in creating large empires and conquering large territories, not in tactics or personality, you gigantically ignorant fucking shit.
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>>143718858
>The conquering that Iskandar stands for is nothing like that.
Yes it it. Nasu doesn't get to decide that red is blue and blue is red, his opinions are worthless. It's the same fucking thing.
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>>143718909
No one is saying Genghis was an idiot, the guy is one of if not the greatest military minds in history. But he didn't care much for the people he was attacking.
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>>143718879
>Fate/Zero.

Where? Quote the line?

> In Fate he is the only person ever capable of doing that.

Darius and Leonidas can too. This started because of someone (you?) bitching about how they shouldn't because that's somehow supposed to be unique to Iskander in all of history for some reason.

Where are you getting that claim from?

>This is the same thing as Gil being the oldest and strongest hero

No it's not. "Gil is the oldest hero" is actually stated clearly in print. Where is the line that claims nobody has ever had as close a bond with his men as Iskander?
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>>143717364
I'd rather get 2030 than a lot of possible Servants to be honest.
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>>143718615
Iskandar's power is unbreakable bonds, not just with his followers, but with everyone he can win over. Leonidas didn't convince the Persians to join him. It's different.

He's a big shounen archetype of Defeat Means Friendship validated by Nasu and Butcher (surprisingly unedgy).

>>143718603
What's this? Worse than a secondary?

>"What else is there apart from killing them?! Isn't that the point of the Holy Grail Waaa-!"

>Waver's slightly hysterical voice was mercilessly interrupted by a smack to his forehead.

>"Victory without ruin, domination without disgrace. That is true conquest!"
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Heck it, I'm done with this game.
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>>143718615
Because it's not only deep loyalty but the fact that they spend a long time devoted to Alexander's dreams. Leonidas and his men was for a battle to defend their country, spartans were also famous for wanting to die in battle. Do you often hear about Leonidas being such a charismatic guy to get his warriors to go with him to die? Most people just assume spartans were crazy bastards like that.

Is not that it never ever happened again in history but they did made a big deal out of it in Fate/Zero.
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>>143718858

Iskander's definition of conquering is only his, it does not encompass everything that conquering means.

>>143718879

Again, I'd like to know where exactly this is claimed. As in, page number in the LN.

>>143719041

Alexander did his fair share of murder, raping, and pillaging too. Genghis also incorporated conquered peoples into his empire. Both essentially gave their targets a single chance to surrender, and if their enemies did not, then they completely fucking destroyed them. You are only demonstrating your own ignorance by claiming that their methods were nothing alike.

>>143719248

>What's this? Worse than a secondary?

Iskander's definition of conquering is not the only one that exists, fuckwad.
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>>143719248
>Iskandar's power is unbreakable bonds, not just with his followers, but with everyone he can win over. Leonidas didn't convince the Persians to join him. It's different.

You're just repeating the same thing over and over and not answering the question.

If Leonidas and Darius shouldn't have their NPs because it's a rule of the setting that nobody in history was ever as beloved by his men as Iskander, where the fuck is the actual word from the authors stating such a thing?
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>>143719212
>because that's somehow supposed to be unique to Iskander in all of history for some reason.

Purely narratively it should be. You made a big deal out of him being the big grand daddy of conqurors. You'd better make sure he gets shit no one else can, you can maybe let it pass if everyone else is like a dog shit version of what he can do., like leonidas can summon 300 E rank servants or some shit rather than 1000 C ranks.
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>>143719294
Send your bind code to acc4begging@hotmail
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>>143719294
Well diggly dang it anon I'm sorry you're so upset about it but no need to swear
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>>143717062
It's more Nobu's Three Thousand Suns, but with bigger ordinance.
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>>143719212
>Fate/Zero is from 2005
>Grand Order is from 2015
>Lore being changed a decade later means the lore was never established in the first place
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>>143719330
>>143719248
Now that we are talking about it Richard is pretty close to Iskandar in this case, he lead from the front and was respected for that and of all the christian crusaders he was the most merciful. And while he didn't make the saracens change sides he and Salahadin had a pretty friendly rivalry
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>>143719406
>Iskander's definition of conquering is only his

He's the one called the KING OF CONQUERORS, not Genghis or anyone else. So you're retarded. Genghis can be the King of Slaughter or something like that.

Both Arturia AND Gilgamesh acknowledge Iskandar as the greatest Conqueror.
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>>143719429
Let me get this straight, your whole bitching about how this should be unique to Iskander is not based on anything actually ever stating such, but just you wanking because you decided it has be so?
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>>143719406
>it does not encompass everything that conquering means.
It does in Fate. He got the title King of Conquerors because he was the absolute greatest at this concept. His definition is the only one that matters, everyone else is doing it completely wrong.
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>>143719406
>General discourages certain methods
>Other general encourages certain methods
>Well they both are generals they have to be the same person
Holy shit read a book. There isn't a historian on the planet who thinks Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan were the same type of general or person.
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>>143719550
I prefer king of rape myself
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Who would voice the Khan?
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>>143719586
No I'm a completely different person, I'm just offering the positon that from a narrative standpoint if you make a claim that someone is the greatest conqueror, you better give them something that represents that they other conquerors don't, or at the very least make sure his remains top dog.

other peeps get excaliblasts, but no one else gets the scabbard.
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>>143719490
>Lore being changed

Where the hell was lore "established" in the first place? You still haven't quoted anywhere that's ever stated Iskander's bond was supposed to be the only on like it in history.
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>>143719428
I'm not that person you're arguing with. The thing about Iskandar's NP isn't that he summons his army but that his army share the same dream he does, that's how they weave a shared RM. That's a fucking unique feat because their inner world is the fucking same as they were swept by Iskandar's dream.

It's not the same as "an army appears" meme. Besides are you sure those are Heroic Spirits summoned or are simply wraiths filling the role of his army (or creations).
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>>143719685
Hisui's VA is great I want her voicing a servant in GO so she is the best choice
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They should add the actual MVP instead of Gemghis Khan
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>>143719784
>he doesn't know
;_;
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>>143719831
Would be great too, what do you think his np would be anon?
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>>143719550

>He's the one called the KING OF CONQUERORS

And somehow that makes him the unquestionable authority on what conquering means? The man is a bullshitter through and through, it's one of his listed talents. He talks a big game, but nobody ever calls him out when he spews shit.

>Both Arturia AND Gilgamesh acknowledge Iskandar as the greatest Conqueror.

They both acknowledge him as a worthy king. Gilgamesh even grants him the right to conquer freely out of respect. But that does not mean they thought he was the best conquerer ever.
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>>143719739
>That's a fucking unique feat

Well, evidently not, and since nothing ever stated that it was, the appearance of others clearly means that it wasn't. End of history.

Thermopylae Enomotia's description has the same emphasis on every single warrior there believing faithfully on their role to give their allies a chance to mount a counteroffensive, which sounds pretty much completely logic from both a narrative AND historical perspective since that's exactly what they did.
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>>143719873
I think that's a joke anon
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>>143719784
Anon you jerk
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>>143719893
>nd somehow that makes him the unquestionable authority on what conquering means?
Yes it does. It's the title giving to him by the authors of the Fate, who are unquestionable authorities on the setting.
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>>143719731
Yea the weather has been pretty humid recently.
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>>143719873
>>143720020
Fuck she retired?
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For charlemagne should i use Durandal or Atila's popsicle?
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>>143720061
anon no baka
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Darius summons zombies and skeletons, mindless troops. Iskandar summons Heroic Spirits (without NPs) who share his vision so their hearts are one and make a shared Reality Marble. There's a fucking difference because Darius' zombie apocalypse and Iskandar's army.

Leonidas do summon his men too, although it can only reproduce the battle they know (and it's just guarding, not winning or advancing).
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>>143720061
Japanese cold got her.
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>>143719550
>He's the one called the KING OF CONQUERORS

And Arturia is the King of Knights even though she keeps pointing at her former subordinates and saying they were better knights than her. Edison is the King of Inventors even though the entire chapter firmly establishes him as a Steve Jobs who mostly was good at employing and repackaging other's inventions. Your point?
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>U N R I V A L E D scores
>meanwhile Gilshit does nothing
WEW
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>>143719784
You are evil.
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>>143720097
Isn't his sword called Joyeuse? He just gave Durandal to Roland I don't think he ever used it
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>>143719212
>"Gil is the oldest hero" is actually stated clearly in print.
this misconception needs to stop. He is the hero of the oldest written tale, not the oldest hero. It was literally never said this way, and you can check that for yourself.
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>>143720061
Yeah she said she was going to slow down her job so she could work on getting married soon then what always happens when you raise such a death flag like that happened.
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>>143719636

His definition is not the only one that matters, and that is a very stupid argument. Just because Arthur is the King of Knights does not mean that codes of chivalry that she did not preach and enforce are invalid, like the chivalry that the Knights of Fianna practiced.

>>143719658

Nice job misrepresenting my argument, genius. That makes you look so much smarter after I pointed out how wrong you were.

>There isn't a historian on the planet who thinks Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan were the same type of general or person.

Good thing that's not what I'm arguing. But if you attempted to actually address my point, you'd realize you have nothing to stand on.
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[email protected]

Please?
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>>143720151
>even though she keeps pointing at her former subordinates and saying they were better knights than her

Thematically that's kinda why she's the king of knights, she got the humility down. Even tho technically it should be Jesus in armour who actually found the grail but still.
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>>143720113
I hope she gets better so she can voice someone in go soon
>>143720172
What?
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>>143719985
>Well, evidently not

Really? Name another shared Reality Marble.Thermopylae Enomotia isn't a reality marble, it's just reproducing the scene they are best known of and it gets them slaughtered, because they are only known for getting fucked up and guarding. Reality Marble is one's inner world, rather than a reproduction of a scene that they were known in history.
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>>143720119
No.
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>>143718879
>This is the same thing as Gil being the oldest and strongest hero
Nice headcanon Gilfag. Saber Alter is canon stronger.
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>>143720107
>Darius summons zombies and skeletons, mindless troops.

No, dumbass, those are the Ten Thousand Immortals warped by their legend. Same as Vampire Vlad. They're not actual mindless zombies, they just got fantasy powers because of all the wankery they received later.
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>>143720189
Design wise I mean. It was said that Joyeuse was forged like durandal.
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>>143720246
Do you want a Liz, pirate sluts and Medea account
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>>143720253
>implying it shouldn't be the unrivaled knight of the era
Fuck off Gilfag
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>>143720297
Die in hell, ignorant peasant.
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>>143720376
Well something closer to Durandal is better I guess, Altera popsicle is stated to be unique and pretty strange to everyone who looks at it, kinda otherwordly. Joyeuse should have a holy look to it
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>>143720487
Cringe.
Will Altershitters ever fuck off to deviantart?
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>>143720487
Whoa what has that anon ever done to you that you want him to die?
That's terrible wishing death upon someone like that, death is very serious you shouldn't joke about it.
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>>143720487
What did I do wrong? She slowed down because of marriage and is sick now so she is not working for typemoon, but this doesn't mean she won't come back for go right? Why is everyone so mad at me
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>>143720408
yes
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>>143720097
use both. Double the Anti Defense
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>A inherent bounded-field of summoning. The trump card of the King of Conquerors. People themselves are treasures. The distinguished services of matchless brave warriors are by themselves the proof of a king. Consecutive summoning of the personal guard he lead in his lifetime as independent Servants, trampling down on the enemy with a military force of tens of thousands.

>As it reproduces the Battle of Thermopylae that made Leonidas' name become known, first the legendary 300 men are summoned. The 300 men that were summoned by this Noble Phantasm endure the enemy attacks together with Leonidas, and start to disappear at each turn. For they believe that their allies will certainly make a counterattack in the meanwhile.

>Ten thousand soldiers transformed into moving corpses and walking skeletons to appear, gather and become a 「war elephant of death」, exterminating the enemy. The immortals, Athanatoi. The ten thousand elite men that existed as a historical fact turned into a Noble Phantasm, their indestructible and immortal nature is being emphasized due to the legends established in future years.

Here, spot the differences:

Iskandar: Reality Marble, independent Servants.
Darius: Zombies and skellies (fodder).
Leonidas: His men (no actual mention if they are Servants) to act on the role that got them famous: their shit beaten at them because they are famous for this.
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>>143720597
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>>143720240
>His definition is not the only one that matters
It is in Fate.
> Just because Arthur is the King of Knights does not mean that codes of chivalry that she did not preach and enforce are invalid, like the chivalry that the Knights of Fianna practiced.
It does in Fate.
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>>143720313
You're making a lot of stuff up that was never in the novels while additionally guessing a lot of specific details that are also not in the game. Nobody knows what Thermopilae Enomotia is because the description is just a couple of lines long and offers no explanation as to how its achieved. It might or may not be a reality marble, but at that point you're just reaching. The only thing it says is that his men are summoned through their shared conviction, the rest seems like you're attaching post-hoc requirements to argue that it somehow doesn't count and that Iskander is still the only one ever.

Dude, just stop. You're a real sad fanboy scrambling to argue why your favorite character should have unique powers after it turns out other people have them.
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>>143720684
You forgot Okita
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>>143720661
This is some good deadpan humor.
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>>143719985
Darius and Leonidas NP aren't a Reality Marble.

Genghis Khan could summon some shit too and send them on a rampage but they can't possibly use the same justification they used for IH.
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>>143720674
She dead. Currently rotting in the grave
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Good victories will come to /fgog/ tomorrow but only if you do a meme roll right now.
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>>143720813
WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE ;-; I'M SORRY
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>>143720789
This

Nasu is pretty big about never doing something in the same way twice. He always creates some warped justification about how its really different this time, even if the roll it preforms is basically the same.
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>>143718879
>Gil being the oldest and strongest hero,
Sure thing gilfag
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>>143720684
You got really, really fucking triggered by having someone imply Iskander isn't the only one to ever inspire that level of loyalty, didn't you?
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>>143720813
He probably knows, the moment he said Hisui's VA. One should know that the dude is baiting
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>>143720476
Jesus in armour is Galahad. Not Gil. Wut.
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>>143720835
The event isn't until a few days, so I don't care about whatever victory you're talking about.
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>>143720952
You didn't see Unrivaled, Smugredman, Regend and LIZ THREAD save the day and Mashu fuck up twice?
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>>143720917
>In this game, Gilgamesh remains the most powerful servant.
>Nonetheless, if you catch him with his guard down and use your Command Spells to summon all five of your Servants at once, ...?
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>>143720678
There you go anon.
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>>143720772
Okita doesn't have a FGO description of that, so I won't use it. Point is that in Iskandar's case the troops are INDEPENDENT SERVANTS. That's why everyone gasped shocked because each of those men were a Servant with their own personal skills and high stats.

They weren't fodder zombies who became an elephant or literal cannon fodder wraiths who shield you. Some have better stats than Iskandar according to Zero Animation guide too.

The feat isn't summoning a random army, but an army of independent Servants.
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>>143720875
Would you a Gudacake?
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>>143720950
>Jesus in armour is Galahad
Makes sense, since Lancelot is Galahad's father so that means Lancelot is YHVH in armor
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>>143721093
Oh dear god
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>>143721054
I did something fun instead.
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>>143721115
No because Jesus is also god. It's like you don't even trinity.
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>>143720928
Not that guy. I'm triggered by ignorant secondaries.

You can summon an army just fine, but they won't be independent Servants. Just like a bunch can fire sword beams, they won't have the hopes and ideals of mankind.
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>>143721082
It's cute how you scrambled backwards until you could fetch a bunch of requirements off your ass for why something doesn't count.
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>>143720747

No, and you have no basis for making such a claim. Fate's Kings may be the so-called best at a certain thing, assuming they actually are (unlike some of them like Edison), but that does not mean they have to be right about what they say. Iskander is decidedly wrong, in fact, about a lot of things, like Saber's worthiness as a king.
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>>143721062
>source: my ass
Here I can do it too

>In this game, Hassan can still stomp Gilgamesh
>Nonetheless, if you catch him with his guard down and use your Command Spells to teleport Gilgamesh behind Hassan, ...?
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/jawn6e/ News, guys. What's it say?
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>>143721082
Okita summons independent servants with E- rank independent action, but their ability and scale are far less than IH. They also cannot wander very far from the flag she plants in the ground.

Its also not a RM, but rather temporary summoning based around the Flag of Sincerity NP.
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>>143721313
He's iterated the same point this entire time, are you having trouble reading?
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>>143721313
See >>143721218 I'm not the person you were arguing in the first place. I just saw your retarded discussion and threw in canon facts.
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>come back after half a year
>jetfags still going at it
Jesus I thought the power creep would've ruined him by now.
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>>143721218
Aha. Sure. I'd ask about how you're so absolutely sure Leonidas' NP works in a completely different way considering its narue is not elaborated at all, but the emphasis you're putting on belittling him and continuing to misquote what the Athanatoi are make it clear this is something you care a wee bit too much about to be rational.
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>>143721378
maintenance notice, that's all.
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>>143720904
This is something people should keep in mind. Even when two things do literally the same shit Nasu always bullshits an explanation on why one of them is different and super special
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>>143721382
Used it in the most recent Koha it seems

Also one other servant in Koha possesses the same basic ability, but the servants he summons cannot leave a castle he materializes upon the world as a fortress.
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>>143721335
>No, and you have no basis for making such a claim.
Yes, I do. Nasu says that is how it is and that's it. Your opinions on how the setting works doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.
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I kinda want to blow my AP on the exp dailies but i have to farm for claws

Do I keep trying to get them to drop or I just should stick to the dailies
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>>143721524
>and super special

All NPs are super special by merit, dumpass. That's kind of the entire point of NPs.

No matter what you can do, someone else in history has done the exact same thing before you, but your shit is still special as well or else it wouldn't be an NP.
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>>143721378
>Kintoki interlude

Oh boy
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>>143721568
Death of the Author, faggot.
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>>143721082

Beautiful backpedaling, friend. Now you can't be wrong, because you were arguing something else all along!

>>143721218

You can lie all you want. The argument was never about the specifics of what army is summoned, but whether an army should be summonable at all by anyone who isn't Iskander because that's HIS feat, according to you. You think people can't just scroll back up and read those posts again?

>>143721568

Nasu never said anything of the sort. You don't get to make claims like that, especially not without citing sources.
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>>143721382
That's very interesting. I was just comparing Leonidas and Darius vs Iskandar, though. They don't overlap at all.

I'm not that person who spouted about muh loyalty, I just wanted to leave clear Darius' NP is actually his elephant and Leonidas' NP is actually his last stand more than his army as individuals. In case of Okita, I think it makes sense she has this like that.
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Iskander fanboys are really sensitive, huh.
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>>143721701
That has a lot more to do with interpretation than it does disagreeing with the author saying that the sky is red in his version of earth.
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>>143717364
>Fastwheels
Lucky bastard I've rolled so much for that guy and yet he eludes me
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>>143721670
FUCKING FINALLY
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>>143721701
The most buttflustered excuse a critic can ever make.

"I don't like how the author proved me wrong, so I'll say the author's shit is just fanon, choose which verses I believe are correct, and create my own headcanon to reaffirm my original beliefs"
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>>143721705
I'm not wrong, though. You can enjoy being wrong and retarded at the same time. I never argued with you if an army was summoned or not.
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>>143721780
Shiro. Food now
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>>143721461
>He doesn't know
Lancelot was only exhausted from fighting 4 Servants
Gilgamesh got stomped and died against 4 Servants

Happened in Fate Accel Zero
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>>143721780
I know you want to start a fanbase war here but you can look at the deeper layer to all of this instead of doing that.

Its not fanboys, but rather lore autists going "Well actually no, it does this very slightly different thing actually".
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>>143721750
>I just wanted to leave clear Darius' NP is actually his elephant

Then you should go to Japan and tell DW that, because the description in the game says it's the Persian Immortals using creepy powers to transform granted by the rumors and legends they inspired.
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>>143720928
>triggered

People are just pointing at the difference between summoning soldiers to what IH does. In this game we also have people brining their horses, boats and other things.

I'm not delusional and I don't even like Memeskandar. If Nasu wants he can make that Genghis Khan, Napoleon or Timur have NPs that are the same shit and even stronger if he wants and I wouldn't care but the way IH was described makes it hard for him to use the same logic, maybe with Napoelon but that's it.

He did something similiar with Nero already, sure it's the same crap but it's still not a Reality Marble.
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>>143721382
Also its just a meager B rank NP
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>>143721978
>Its not fanboys

Yeah, I'm sure the insistent fawning while taking the time to make sure to describe everyone else negatively is just a coincidence. Come on.
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>>143721986
They are a bunch of mooks that become a giant elephant according to the description DW gives. They aren't personalized Servants like Iskandar or Okita have. It's not the same, I'm not sure why some are too stubborn to realize it. It's the difference between that zombie Roman you kill and an enemy Servant.
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>>143721893

Yes you did.

>>143716885

Literally the first post in this whole argument chain.

>Nothing ever claimed that being able to summon an army was an ability unique to Iskander.

Immediate reply denied that:

>>143717527

and then it spiraled out from there, leading to this point, where you are desperately attempting to rewrite history to make yourself the victor. A powerful NP indeed, but it cannot defeat the power of reading!
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>>143722038
Nero was basically his idea of Iskandar + Saberface.
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Saber thread
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>>143721961
Well at least it's not as bad as when they were honestly arguing he could solo Solomon, I guess.
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>>143721670
>tfw just rolled Kintoki
>tfw have a 3 Shirou Buster CE
>tfw his NP interlude will make his NP even more retarded
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>>143722379
We need more Gozen
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>>143722406
Or that he could solo Goku.
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>>143721480
Because it simply says that he's repeating the scene he's best known of. It's not a reality marble, it's just a replay of him and his men dying so his allies would have a chance to counter attack. That is the embodiment of Leonidas' legend. Do you know what a NP is? A crystallization of a legend. Leonidas is known for that.
There's no mention they are independent Servants at all while Iskandar's (and Okita's) descriptions blatantly stated that (and give the IA rank, in both cases is E-). Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>Tamamo will never wake you up each morning by riding your dick.
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>>143721545
Well at least kondo and hijikata arent genderbends

>>143721961
Didnt you kill lancelot in the end? pretty sure that the reason that black iri appeared was because the grail have enough servants souls after you killed the jet.
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>>143722640
Good, I want to be the one to wake my servants up riding them
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>>143722176
>They are a bunch of mooks

The ten thousand Immortals are, as a historical unit, quite a lot more recognizable than any corps commandeered by Iskander.

>They aren't personalized Servants like Iskandar or Okita have.

This is why I'm calling you a fanboy. You keep insistently banging on this so much even when it's a moot point to the original argument that i can practically hear you fuming over it.

Notice how you started to say "and Okita" now? Darius and Leonidas' NPs have no long descriptions, so there's no way to tell whether their do or do not do the same thing either. Especially since Okita does, so the barrier for them being individual Servants got lowered a hell of a lot. But you care so, so damn much that you need to keep banging about how "they definitely aren't individual Servants!" regardless of whether you know or don't. I suppose because it's what you retreated to to while trying to keep arguing about uniqueness? Bah, I don't care enough to go on, this is just sad.
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>>143722748
Gay?
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Is there any doubt IH would crap all over Dariu's NP if they fought?
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>>143722659
I was talking about the first fight. Translator says Lancelot was only exhausted. He also said you pretty much kick Gilgamesh ass.
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>>143722573
wat
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>>143722659
Don't reply to him.
He is just fishing (You)s
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I've always wondered

What does it actually mean when it says "Increases [card type] performance?"
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>>143722763
I'm done with you. You clearly have no grasp in history or any knowledge of Fate franchise. You're relying on baseless interpretation instead of what is actually stated on the description.
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>>143722789
No

I think its the case most of the time that the guy you lost to in life, would kick your ass again if you ever fought again in the same way. Aside from maybe Karna and Arjuna.
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>>143722785
A huge faggot yes
>>143722789
Of course not, considering Iskandar already beat him once and shit tends to repeat itself
>>143722865
Think about it this way, cards are dicks, CEs which increase their performance are like viagra
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>>143722789
This retard actually thinks Darius and Leonidas have an army of Servants. >>143722763
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>>143722865
It increase Damage, NP charge and Crit regen
basically everything
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>Didnt you kill lancelot in the end
Show his death scene then, Mashu said Lancelot was REPELLED

>pretty sure that the reason that black iri appeared was because the grail have enough servants souls after you killed the jet
Except Gilgamesh was said to count as 3 in HF. Lancelot was never shown dying in lore
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>>143722834
Not him, but he can when you think about it. If Goku chucked the Spirit Bomb at him, Lancelot could KoH it and throw it back and kill him.
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This might be a dumb question, but should I put Cu in the Berserker or All slot?
The only other gold Berserker I have is Nightingale, though she's only in the 60s range.
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>>143723020

So now you're trying to mock your opponent by calling other people to look at your arguments? How old are you?
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>>143723116
No one ever looks in the all slot unless it's for a ruler or avenger.
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>>143722865
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/guide_faq.php#commandcards
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>>143723062
This is some old-ass shitposting.
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>>143723116
I never look in the all slot unless I'm after a Ruler or Avenger, for whatever reason.
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>>143723050
Nice biased source, of course Mashu would defend her daddy.
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They should fucking put an Extra Class slot, I want to put Cake in my all class slot but I don't want to lost all that FP that my 10/10/10 jannu horta gives
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>>143722763
>Ten thousand soldiers transformed into moving corpses and walking skeletons

These will be some weird ass servants.
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>>143723265
Game is going to be greater hell when they release more Avengers and Rulers, and also Alter Egos and Shielders.

Yet they only have one slot for all of them.
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>>143723342

No stranger than any other Servant who is twisted by Innocent Monster.
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>>143723248
If he died why don't you show his lore death? No gameplay memes unless my Lancelot soloing Karna in America is also considered canon
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Since we've brought up Genghis Khan, would NPs and skills would he plausibly have (no IH knockoffs) and would he be stuck in one of the evil alignments or would Nasu logic make him neutral good?
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>>143723117
No, no, look, the B rank NP that summons warriors cannot possible be summoning Servants like that other B-class NP that summons Servants. That's just fucking crazy talk and it should be readily apparent to all because that is a totally unique thing that puts it into a whole other level which my rampaging butthurt dictates should be acknowledged by all as such.
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Is it headcanon hour?
>inb4 projecting it to someone else
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>6 apologems

Oh boy.
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>>143722456
Save this image for next time. Its the complete page, and also its not in Chinese.
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>>143723476
>NPs
Black Death. One of the theories for the plague spreading like it did was Genghis being an asshole and catapulting diseased corpses over the walls.
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>>143723476
Well he probably would be able to be summoned as a rider and archer so riding and IA are a given, military tactics is another one
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>>143723476

Depends on who designs him and whether they want to flip common thought on its head and make him a good guy or if they want to play them straight.

In terms of skills, he'd have high Riding and high Disengage and Military Tactics. He would probably have access to a bow and arrow as well as a sword, though neither are likely to be his NPs.
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Ok, I have Kiyohime and Lancelot, should I put Lancelot on Kiyohime's spot or he isn't worth it, even for the stats?
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>>143723342
No stranger than Elizabeth with a fucking dragon tail and horns, Thomas Simba Edison or Detective Conan. hell, at least these guys had "immortal army of the dead" as an explicit part of their schtic, so it's probably one of the least crazy cases.
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>>143723663
People are more likely to use a gold regardless.
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>>143723713
At least none of them are all bones.
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>>143723663
>Gilfag trying to start shit
Fuck off cuck
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>>143723713
>Detective Conan.
What the fuck did I miss?
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>>143723553
how? when? why?
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>>143723553
>more chances to roll for electabuzz gijinka
Good.
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>>143723798
Nope, I'm not the gilfag. I don't have support for Lancelot, but Kiyohime has lower stats, so I guess I should go for Lancelot.
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>>143723798
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>>143723184
>>143723236
Im the only one that just look in the all slot because for some reason all my friends put the bond ce there?

Btw someone with darius bond ce? is the only one that i dont have in my pokedex.
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Yo, could I get some supports please? Preferably Iskandars but everything is welcome, except Gil since his NP crashes my phone, thank you
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>>143723663
Isnt kiyohime better in wave clearing? still i think lancelot would get you more fp just because people dont know that and just choose the gold servant.
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>>143723560
>Gozencucks
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>>143724229
>Cu
>GOLD
>Kaleido
You literally need nothing else.
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>>143724302
Why is she a cuck now?
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>>143724229
Also, is Kaleido better on Cu over Prisma?
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>>143724229
>level 1 Jekyll
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>>143724415
It's a new account as you can tell, but I don't really plan on leveling him anyway
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>Roll a second Pirate Sluts
>"Oh, ok, I guess a small increase to damage isn't bad after a-"
>1600% to 2000%

HOLY FUCKING CHRIST, are we sure Cirno didn't write that wrong or something? This fucking thing gets as big a boost from going to Lv2 than the entire leap from 2 to 5.
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>>143724229
Iskandar incoming.
961,099,248
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>>143724381
/fgog/ use cuck for any that like a girl that has already someone that they like.
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>>143724229
078714637
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>>143724541
a lot of NPs get a fucking retarded boost at just NP2.
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>>143724541
They are the strongest four star servant
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>>143707851
That's Justeaze, you know.
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>>143724396
Depends on how many defensive Servants you have. 0 - Kaleido, tank and/or Waver - Prisma.
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>>143724541
Most do that. I think only AoE busters don't get that benefit.
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>>143724541
>I don't know quick modifier
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> It's my Bday

> Bryn's line is super cute but I don't moon

> TL pastebin doesn't have the line

I..I love you too Bryn
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>>143724680

Really? Mary Read and Anne Bonny are?

That's weird.
>>
Diarmuid- Sakamoto
Golden/Karna- 8823
Lev- Acchan
Hassan- Maruyama
Kotomine- Kakuta
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>>143724787
>shittiest lancer
>literally cucked by sigurd
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>>143724787
I forgot birthday lines were a thing, Oh well, only 11 months to go.
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>>143724795
Their NP is pretty crazy, and pretty good star gen.
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>>143724867
FUCK OFF
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>>143724381
>waifubait shit
>Won't even be your waifu
Into the fucking trash it goes
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>>143724229
DUDE BROSKANDAR HIGH FIVE XD
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>>143724581
>>143724629
Sent, name is Buster because why not
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>>143724795
Their NP hit like a truck and the bonus Overcharge is easy to get too.
I dont know about strongest,but they are definitely one of the best out of 4*.
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>>143715660
>tfw just noticed his eyebrows met with his hair

Now I can't unsee him as Dumas too
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>>143724787
Record it?
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>>143725173
I'm a retard that doesn't know how
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>>143724787
>"something something Sigurd"
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>>143724951
She'll probably be waifu to whoever summons her, similar to Tamamo. Although she seems to have the opposite tastes. She likes bad boys or people with a some ugliness to their soul.

Her master talks down to her or keeps her in order a lot, doesn't ever emote much, but might just be a male tsun/kuudere with rare moments of feeling. Seems that the male tsundere vibe is in with girls lately. Even Jannu Alter had an abrasive tsundere in her harem.
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>>143724229
795,450,051
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>rolled retard cat
Ok, do I burn or keep her? I already have Frankie.
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>>143725267
>Can't even use Windows' Sound Recorder as a last resort
Get it together, anon.
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>>143725391
Who was the abrasive tsundere in her harem? Arjuna?
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>>143725391
>Even Jannu Alter had an abrasive tsundere in her harem.
Because her harem was supposed to be an Otome harem. It's why EMIYA, an Eroge protag, is the one to call her out on all the bullshit.
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>>143725517
>burning a gold that isn't Medb, Jeanne or Scathach
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>>143725403

Still gets to me that Cu is only a three star Servant, and Fionn mac Cumhaill is a four star.
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>>143725517
Just keep her in your inventory if you don't want to use her. Surely some day she'll give you bonus points in an event.
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>>143725585
Shoujo is a dangerous place

>>143725559
It was either him or Siegfried.
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>>143725595
I need more room for exp.
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>>143725615
He's a starting Servant, that's why.
If they knew this game would be successful then all the F/SN and Zero servants would probably be golds.
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>>143725670
If it was Siegfried he failed miserably at that, even his fake version was too nice
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>>143725673
Then how about you stop memerolling and expand your inventory instead? 4 quartz is already 20 slots.
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>>143725615
Cu is a five star
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>>143725520
On tablet
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>>143725710
I don't think regend would be gold
At best silver and that's being really optimistic.
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>>143724787
Couldn't find it on the JP wiki or I would translate it for you. Find a way to get me the audio and I will though.
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>>143725673

Sacrifice some quartz for room.
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>>143725797
It's already max
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>>143725559
She didn't have one.

-Alex: cute shota.
-Hector: cool dandy uncle.
-Siegfried: handsome gallant school idol
-Arash: cheerful childhood friend.
-Arjuna: sadistic taciturn guy who turns dere occasionally
-Gilles: dad.
-Bryn: earnest female friend (the crazy lesbo part was apparently the process misfiring spectacularly and her intention getting garbled)
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>>143726040
Fuck off whale.
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>>143725710
>F/SN and Zero servants would probably be golds.

Nah

Medea even came out far after the others, and she was still a silver. You overestimate all of the F/SN and Zero servants as the cream of the top, but more than a few of them are not really high tier. Not that stars are really power levels anyway.

The ones that are super popular are gold, and the ones that aren't are not.
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>>143725670
Is he a tsun
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>>143726058
>-Arjuna: sadistic taciturn guy who turns dere occasionally

Yeah that, its abrasive tsundere basically.
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>>143726070
Cu is pretty popular though, he and Medusa are only silvers because at the beginning of the game they wanted to give people the impression that at least some of the famous characters from the franchise were fairly easy to get so people wouldn't be discouraged
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>>143725872
Well, fuck.
I found a recording, but Niconico is shit and unusable and randomly decides to not let me watch certain videos. Can anyone with premium or some devil magic help a brother out?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28182969
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>>143712417
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>>143726252
It's an automatically recorded message saying the video can't be viewed because the uploader removed it. No idea why it's still even there, but that's what it says.
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http://imgur.com/a/WmN8k

Does /fgog/ like ghost stories?

This is the part leading up to Ayaka.
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>>143726521
Wait, it's being translated again?
God bless anon
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>>143726252
brb committing sepukku
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>>143725735
It wasn't Siegfried, but in any case, Bryn was the only one of the fake Servants that was acting full out as her role. Alex flat out says he'd rather pass on his role, and Arjuna needs Arash to egg him on just to blurt out what his character is supposed to be since he's clearly not into it at all.

Arash and Hector are sort of indistinguishable since their roles are pretty much their standard personalities.
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>>143726764
Well Siegfried said he wasn't sumanai so that's a pretty big difference
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>>143726581
I've been at it since yesterday.

https://imgur.com/a/TMtPT
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>>143726521
>In the past kimono wearing ghosts haunted Yanagibora temple

Is this a callback to Kojirou or just a throwaway urban legend?
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>>143726884

Damn, Richard is a boss. Him and Robin teaming up properly would make one hell of a team.
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>>143726668
Well shit son, I feel bad. Do you know enough moon to make anything out so we can make something up for you?
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>>143726668

Can you try to write down what it sounds like phonetically? Japanese is a very phonetic language, so it shouldn't be too hard to translate from that.
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>>143727135
He already can team up with Robin Hood

The reason an arrow shoots from his shadow is due to his second NP, which can temp summon people he knows from life, it sounds like.

One at a time from the sound of things.
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>>143727040
hm, looking again don't know what went wrong

It should've been Ryuudou Temple, so that's a reference to Kojirou
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>>143727271

Neat.
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>>143726884
Whos that faggot, he should fuck off and let Artoria come out
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>>143727271
Well, lets take a look at the actual spoiler wording for how it was called so there's less misunderstandings.

>Basically he's able to use Excalibur with pretty much anything he grabs. Because well apparently Richard the Lionheart had the habit of calling anything in his hands Excalibur. So he just does that with a tree branch. His Excalibur is called the Sword of the Forever Distant Victory (永久に遠き勝利の剣).
>His other NP it's a summoning comrades thing. But it's not really summoning but like transcribing from the throne from a preselect group or something.
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>>143727271
Is that what that was? I'd heard something about multiple figures appearing alongside Richard when he was summoned. Having Robin Hood for a shadow is a pretty fucking cool ability.
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>Kerry is a nigger
But why
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>>143726884
is this chapter 4?
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>>143727271
Its real Robin this time right?
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>>143727269
Something like "Ware wa meshia(messiah?) nari"
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>>143727465
We're all the real Robin Hood if we put on the green hood and commit deeds based on his name.
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>>143727429
>dark skin = black
You must be American.
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>>143727386

Arturia wouldn't last a day in a war like this.
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>>143727465
There is no real Robin Hood

Its just that the feats of various different people who called themselves the same thing got conflated into a single legend. Robin in Extra is the most apt towards the legend since he fits the primary amount of it.

Its like Batman(or Hassan), how there's been many different people over the ages that call themselves Batman. But the one in Extra is Bruce Wayne as far as it matters, since he's the Robin Hood we know.
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>>143727630
But Dick Grayson was best Batman
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>Fatalpulse sama 20 days offline
Did he give up?
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>>143727798
He changed accounts
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>>143727497
Fuck off, Omega.
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>>143724787
Have you checked for the moon in here?
http://grand_order.wicurio.com/index.php?%E3%83%96%E3%83%AA%E3%83%A5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%92%E3%83%AB%E3%83%87

Expand out the table where her CV is
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>>143727872
To exactly what? His account was baller as fuck already
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Berserker Amazon when?
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>>143727497
Not him, but I think its something like this
お誕生日おめでとうございます、マスター、私も,お祝いをして、いいですか?
I have no idea where to put the commas though, sorry.
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>>143727950
What?
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>>143727269
I'll try:

O-tanjoubi omedetou gozaimasu Master... Watashi mo(?) oai ishite ee(?) desu ka

I tried my best, the parts in question parts I can't hear well
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>>143727620
>king Arthur
>not being better than a literal who
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Who whaling for based Richard?
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>>143728187
>I lived a life where treachery and betrayal considered as normal things
>Don't tell me that you mistook me as a kind hearted person

Don't underestimate him, guy already got arrested and broke out of prison after fucking with them for awhile. He seems to be all smiles but he's a sly person as well.

He used to fight DAA back when he was alive along with Saladin.
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>>143728187
>Richard the Lionheart
>a literal who
No anon, you're just a retard.
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>>143728060
>>143728108
Roughly:
>Happy Birthday, Master... Is it alright if I also offer my congratulations?

Happy birthday, Anon!
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>>143728331
Nobody, because Narita's got a Strange Fake embargo up for GO.
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Puts on a rocker outfit, and strums a bit on an electric guitar in the most recent volume

He really is the king of thugs.
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>>143728528
Stat page when?
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>>143728451
Thank you anon

She's a CUTE!
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>>143728187
>Richard
>literal who

Don't just throw buzzword when you don't like something retard
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Found Enkidu, and managed to talk out a deal with him where they'll join forces.
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>>143728684
>>143728410
If I dont know him then he's a literal who. Myths should be widely known to the general public to qualify as famous.
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>>143728810
You ever heard of the crusades?
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>>143728810
Reminder that people like this exist.
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>>143728810
>Myths
Go to bed shitposter, you've got a long day ahead of you.
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>>143728810
>he doesnt know about Third Crusade
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There are bday lines?
Huh
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Yet again reminder that there are spoilers for the most recent volume.

http://pastebin.com/pki30S9m
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>>143729214
>Richard the Memeheart can't even fight a DAA 1v1
>he doesn't stand a chance against Gil who could beat 30% Arc
>The same Gil that loses to Artoria
He's already shit
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>>143729378
>"Arthiroia is totes stronger than Arcuied!"
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>>143729378

It's not a matter of powerlevels when it comes to fighting DAA or Servants. In both cases, you need specialist weapons or spells to kill the other. DAA would need to have expertise in spirits to kill Servants, and Servants would need some sort of weapon that can either completely annihilate the enemy in an instant (like Excalibur and the various beamspam NPs) or that can impose death on a being that is beyond it, like Black Keys do, to kill DAAs.
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>>143729615
How would Gae Bolg and Gae Buidhe fair against DAA?
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>>143729615
Amakusa would probably be super effective against some DAA members then, because of his high ranking Baptism Sacrament.
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>>143730048
Thrust Gae Bolg probably wouldn't matter much to higher-end DAAs since hearts aren't really important to their survival anymore.

Thrown version would fuck them up.
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>>143730048
Gae Bolg does well against immortal things as long as its a critical hit, gay Buidhe does nothing.

> Q: Who'd win if the Servants and the 27 Ancestors fought each other? Also, who'd win in a fight between Bazett, a renowned powerhouse of the Association, and Ciel, top class in even the Association?

>A: Depends on compatibility, but basically Servants will have the slightly higher advantage. With Saber, Lancer, and Archer classes, we ought to be able to relax and see decent fights. In particular, Saber has THAT sort of Noble Phantasms so against guys like the 27 Ancestors that overwhelm by material quantity and alienness, she'd be REALLY tough.

>....Well, there are also some of those tough Ancestors that can withstand a direct hit from Excalibur-class attacks, but against those guys that just (emphasis on just; other stats don't match up) have wickedly high HP, Lancer-aniki'd be pretty tough.

>Oh, and regarding Bazett-san and Lady Ciel, Ciel'd still win at the point Bazett was in Hollow. Once Bazett awakens and masters Fragarach, it'll turn into a good match.

>Me: Well, so in other words. The front-line Servants are generally going to at least be equal to the typical (how the hell does this get reinterpreted to lower-ranking?) DAA. Hollow Bazett is still going to lose to Ciel, but level 30 Bazett will be able to put up a good fight.

If Gae bolg hits dead on properly, then it takes 100% health plus a bit more. For things with stupidly high HP bars, Gae Bolg bypasses this at times.
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If /fgog/ were to be summoned as a servant similar to hundred face Hassan, what would our skills, stats an np be?
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>On the other hand, those with conceptual effects, destiny interference types fall into a special category. With Gae Bolg (regular), no matter how much Arcueid might be superior to Lancer in numbers, she will be killed depending on her luck, you see.
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>>143730206
>More Saberwank shit
yawn
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>>143730457

>You mean to tell me that a holy sword is super powerful against evil beings? OMG SABERWANNNNNK!!!!1!!
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>>143730339
02 - Mental Disorder [A]
The mind has fallen ill. It is not the Mad Enhancement that Berserkers usually possess. Being unable to feel the pain of others or read the mood of one's surroundings. Has the ability of mental super armor.
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>>143730339
B rank homoposting
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>>143730503
>OMG
Sup reddit
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>>143730563

No, anon, that was you in that post no matter how much you want to deflect it.
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>>143730503
>Evil beings
Sup secondary-kun
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>>143730339
Avenger: EX
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Aside from Types name one person full power Saber in her prime would lose to

Pro-tip you can't
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>>143730682

You can't be serious.
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>>143730339
0* trash would burn
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>Tsukihimefags trying to be relevant

I hope Saber one shoots Arc, Akiha, Tohno Shiki with Caliburn and then goes shopping with Ryougi.
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>>143730790
shirou's d :^)
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>>143730431
NPs with conceptual effects like "Cannot be broken", "Will surely block thrown objects", "Will always hit the heart", etc are really the way to go for NPs.

Even in the final volume of Apocrypha we saw a simple NP with a conceptual effect beat an NP about as strong as Excalibur.
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>>143730790
Dantes, easy
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>>143730853
Shirou only had a chance because Merlin wasn't there
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>>143728515
That didn't stop Nasu from sneaking Edison and Dantes.
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>>143730930

Merlin cucked himself by giving Saber a dick when he could see the future and knew Morgan was going to hop on it and ride her all night long.
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>>143730790
Rin's finger
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>>143730790
BB, Zelretch, Kingprotea, most of the upper DAA.

Saber power wanking can't compete with Sakura clone powers, because Nasu went full retard with their powers. All of the Alter Egos are fairly broken.
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>>143731014
Dantes is going to be in Strange Fake?
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>>143730905

I wouldn't call an A+ rank shield 'simple', but yes, it beat Vasavi Shakti because it had a concept of being like the world itself and Vasvai Shakti was specifically an anti-deity weapon, not anti-world.
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>>143730339
Stats are all around terrible.

A rank Saberhate, bonus damage against Saberface

B rank Waifuposting, gain buffs based on how many female servants are on your team

Some evade/disengage ability because we'd spend more time running that fighting

NP deals damage based on how long it's been since you drew a 5* servant.
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>>143730048
The no-healing curse of the stabbing true name Gae Bolg would probably come in handy, but it'd probably be faster to just vaporize theam at once with the thrown version.

Most of the large-scale "explode everything to hell" NPs would be good, especially against guys like Nrvnqsr. The problem are the ones with conceptual rather than physical immortality like Wallacha.
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>>143731103
>Most of the upper DAAs
>implying
>>143730206
It says excalibur would shit on most of them and that's in her Servant form which is vastly inferior to her in life
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>Oni event coming up
>Feeling like I cant be arsed to finish America due to various reasons including busyness and general non interest in event

Maybe, they will surprise me, maybe
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>Tfw no kaptein
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>>143730563
Trying too hard.
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post yfw when Camelot is Saber being so perfect that she resolves the conflict between Christians and Muslims and prevents the Crusades while making Jesus himself descend and bow down before her perfection
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>>143731513
Are you reading this Nasu? Do it, Takeuchi will love you forever and these faggots here will be so assblasted it would be glorious
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>>143730930
I have to ask, do you hate Shirou personally so you go on about this, or do you just take delight in endlessly wanking a completely nonexistent DEEP STAR-CROSSED ROMANCE out of a single line of Arturia clinically pondering if the particular brand of affection she was feeling was romantic since she ha dno clue what that was like?

It's just bloody confusing seeing people going on about this from literally nothing. I've even seen people (or maybe you) flat-out lying by claiming the casual line she has in GO about Merlin was some blubbering longing thing.
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>>143731513
fucking saberwank grr
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Did Morgan give saber a blowjob or hand job to extract semen?
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>>143731737
titjob
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Personally, I want to befriend Shirou
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>>143731787
I want to make him my wife ;_;
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>>143731737
Bareback
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>>143731660
>Shitrofags mad that she would cuck that little faggot
Every time.
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>>143731737
She probably just had sex with Arthuria normally, though likely had done something to herself or Arthuria to achieve it.
>gave Arthuria a potion or placed an enchantment on her
>did something that basically acted like the Polyjuice Potion from Harry Potter to look like Guinevere.
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>>143731963
Or made her really horny and got raped.
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>>143730457
>a bunch of vampires, mostly mutant humans
>tend to lose to a group of people whose entire job description is "the best humans, also monster slayers"

Holy shit what terrible wank
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>>143731963

Saber wasn't sexually attracted to Guin, though, and she didn't know Morgan was her half-sister at the time.
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Which servant should I draw
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Fate/Wank Night
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>>143732096
Attila.
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>>143732096
nameless anon of /fgog/
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>>143732096
This is a servant, so draw this

Selfcest
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>>143731513
>Not also having her be the worst thing ever
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>>143732096
wankcuckalot
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>>143732096
RICHARD
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>>143732026
>DAA are all better than servant and can't get killed by them
>Except Saber because she is so special that she can
Utterly disgusting saberwank.
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Can't wait for Kiyohime announcement for Fate Extella.

Her attacks are going to be interesting.
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Based King Dick
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>>143731963
Couldn't she just extract sperm from her futa cock via ancient orgasm inducing magic while she was asleep? It could be passed off as a wet dream and everyone would be none the wiser
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>>143732335
>Kiyohime wank
No thanks
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>>143732379

Nah, Saber definitely boned Morgan. It's how she knew how to pleasure a man in Fate route.
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>>143731963
Saber should've said to Guinevere, Morgan was better in bed than her
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>>143732418
>Kiyohime wank

Except Wada drew her before Grand Order even began retard about her and Tamamo hanging out.

Of fucking course she will show up in this.
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>>143732335
She'll be super weak most of the time and have to rely on charging up her NP to kill everything.
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>>143732317
>>DAA are all better than servant and can't get killed by them
>>Except Saber because she is so special that she can

How hard is it to read a few lines of interview? That's not even close to what it said. It said all of the knight classes could fight an average DAA equally. Then it said that for DAA that could withstand Excalibur, Cu would have a better advantage against them.
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>>143732096
Gorgon lolis!
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>>143732375
Got a link to this, anon?
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>>143732554
when did wada draw kiyohime
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>>143732572
>DAA
>Better than Servants

Top kek.
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>>143732447
Then we already know that Morgan just gave her a blowjob. That's how Saber learned what pleases a dick orally.

>The King Arthur in the story of Fate was an amalgamation of historical facts and legends. Saber's name before becoming king was Artoria.
>It must be tough to live in a palace while disguising her gender.
>The greatest problem was probably producing an heir, but that was solved by Merlin through magecraft.
>In the story, the line "I know how to please a man" was from experience.

Even the data-books agree
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>>143732696
Last year's april fools day
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>>143732696
Tmitter 2015 April Fools.
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I enjoy our musings about magic futa cocks and jizz /fgog/.

I just wonder if we'll see Guin in the game. Possibly a CE or something would be nice.
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>>143730930
Well, sure, Merlin's dick is bigger. Shirou's only human.
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>>143732554
Kiyohime was oddly mentioned in both CCC and Extra. Tamamo always says they're pen pals, and at one point calls her on a cell phone I think.

One of Tamamo's Interludes in FGO is also called Pen Pal Wars. Although I haven't gotten Tamamo from the gatcha in order to find out if its about what I think its about.
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>>143732742

Morgan had to get pregnant with Arturia's semen in order to produce the zygote that would later be modified into a semi-homunculus that was Mordred.
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>>143732739
>Average DAA is equal to the average Servant
>Outliers on both sides
Yes, DAAs can be and are better then Servants.
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Here is my Charlemagne Design. I liked the sword.
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>>143732529
>tfw no Arturia/Mordred/Morgan threesome doujin

hell any Arturia/Mordred smut would be nice.
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>>143732696
TMitter three years ago
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>>143732857

That's legitimately awesome, man.
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>>143732857
>Flat
Why
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>>143731323
>not having best Rider
Sad!
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>>143732857
That is fantastic
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>>143732857
>flat

CUTE
CUTE!!!
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>>143732857
10/10, would whale for.
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>>143732857
Nice

When she ascends can you have her get a few more tattoos?

Somewhat like Currybutt
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>>143732949
it was last year
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There's also one other interview question about DAA and servants fighting

>Q: Who would be stronger if Servants fought the 27 Ancestors? Servants also have superhuman battle ability, but the 27 Ancestors are also superhuman monsters... I got the impression that ORT, Primate Murder, Altrouge Brunestud, and so on were obviously stronger than Servants.
>A: All I can is they're both powerful... They're both beings that dwell in mystery, so the only thing that can be said is that it all depends on the situation at the moment, whether one "has the means of killing the other guy somehow". Among those, ORT and Primate Murder have the super advantage against humanity so they're in a league of their own, I suppose. Speaking of which, for one Primate Murder, seven Guardians would be the appropriate amount.

>[clarification: Primate Murder has the property of being super-strong against primates, while ORT doesn't abide by Earth's natural laws]
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>>143732984
>That is fantastic
>Not "That is flatastic"

YOU HAD ONE JOB ANON
ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>143732857
I hope the ascension adds a bitching-ass cape.
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>>143733060
>Gorgons aren't primates
>Stheno can handle Primate Murder by herself
wew
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>>143732742
You do realize blow jobs can be done as foreplay, right? So Morgan could have given one as foreplay, then had sex with her. Hell, Morgen could have blown Arthuria until she almost came then slid herself right on it.
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>>143733127

I hope it removes clothing and armor!
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>>143733127
That's my plan.
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>>143733180
That's second ascension. Then clothes return plus new cape for third.
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>>143730790
Proto Arthur
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>>143733151

Enkidu would probably be the most powerful option against Primate Murder.
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>>143733151
Doesn't count. Servant aren't allowed to win.
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>>143733614
>Servant aren't allowed to win.
Since when?
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>>143732976
i know, i'm still waiting for rate up of her.

;_:
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>>143733565
Everything that is human or human-ish is a primate, since human-ish things are created by human delusions or dreams. Divine or monstrous things both fall into this category.

You need at least seven guardians to overcome its absolute advantage.
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>>143732857
great
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Damocles when
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>>143732850
Average servants are shit

If you can't at least compete with Gil, Saber or Karna you are worthless shit
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>>143733716

Enkidu isn't remotely human. He's literally living clay that just happens to be able to take human form.
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>>143733656
Since ever. PM was designed so that there could be something stronger than servants. Trying to find loopholes is just retarded.
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>>143733737
That's probably the giant swords Archer was using during UBW anime near the end.
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>>143733716
>Everything that is human or human-ish is a primate
What? Do you know what a primate is? It's a great ape. Humans are part of that evolutionary tree so we are primates.

Beings born out of mud or the ether aren't primates.
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>>143733801
>>143733818
Servant=human
Even Red Hare is going to be human when it becomes a servant.
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>>143733801
He's a human-ish thing created by other human-ish things. All of them have their roots within humanity, divine spirits were created by human worship.
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>still no Ozzy or Da Vinci
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>>143733802
>PM was designed so that there could be something stronger than servants.
No it wasn't. It's made to kill humans.
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Primate Murder sounds like it was made by some retarded 5 year old who was trying to figure out a way to beat everyone else's imaginary friend

>LOL IT JUST BEATS EVERYTHING UNLESS IT'S A TYPE XD
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>>143733910

Enkidu isn't a Heroic Spirit or a true Servant. He's only summonable as a Fake Servant, the same way the concept of disease is summonable as one.

>>143733915

No, he's not. And no, they weren't. Divine spirits were originally just high ranking elementals before they became worshipped by humans.
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>>143733910
>Servant=human
No.
>Even Red Hare is going to be human
We have a horse Heroic Spirit already.
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>>143733925
It was made to kill primates, and everything that has to do with servants are basically primates. Even things one step removed are still primates, since they are nothing but a primates delusion, or a primates delusion of a delusion.
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>>143733961
Yeah Nasu might as well just stop shilling his shitty writing because it's basically established that none of this shit matters since nobody can beat Primate Murder that would ever be the focus of a story
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>>143734016
>everything that has to do with servants are basically primates
That's wrong. We literally have an equine Heroic Spirit and an upcoming equine Servant, we have a golem Servant and we have Servants born of essentially nothing.

If a scientist creates a robot that can think, it is not a primate. Primate has a very specific definition.
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>>143734198
It doesn't matter. low tier shit like that would die to Primate Murder regardless of whether or not they are primates
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>>143733918
>still no Percy
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>Edison is true berserker
Idunbelieveit
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>>143734396
The only information we have ever gotten about Primate Murders abilities is that he is really good at murdering primates because muh authority. The Nasuverse is full of conceptual bullshit with loopholes just like that, that get exploited.

I'm not saying Euryale or Bucephalus would trash Primate Murder but he needs something else to kill them.
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>>143733918
>Still no Alter Ego
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>>143734529
You need to turn your brain off to read Fate, just roll with it.
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>>143734543
Saying primate murder would lost against shit like Becephalus is like saying Siegfried would lose against anyone who isn't a dragon, reach harder
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>>143734671
>Siegfried has been shown to have multiple fighting abilities against things that aren't dragons
>Primate Murder has never been shown to have anything but authority over primates, and has in fact never been shown at all
What a shitty comparison.
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>>143734543
>>I'm not saying Euryale or Bucephalus would trash Primate Murder but he needs something else to kill them.

They said seven guardians were needed, and guardians are a big deal. You're trying to find a loop-hole saying he's probably nothing but conceptual power and someone could probably trash him, but Nasu says plainly that this dog is just broken. Arcueid's sister is weaker than true Roa, but its said that with Primate Murder backing her up she's already probably stronger than the original Type Moon.

In the most recent interview Nasu likened Primate Murder to Godzilla.
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>>143734396
We don't know fucking nothing of PM. But we know that anything big and scary are just fodder boss at most.
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>>143734810
The guardians are also all primates, which seems like a stupid decision on their part.

It's a fact that Primate Murder has literally one known ability that straight up doesn't work on some people in the franchise, so I don't know why this triggers people so much.
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>>143734810
>and guardians are a big deal.

FGO says Guardians are shit. Kiritsugu is one. They are called fake heroic spirits. Stop fucking reaching.

Nobody gives a shit about your hollywood monster. It's gonna be an event boss that would be Fafnir-tier.
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>>143734776
>>143734823
The only reason Primate Murder hasn't been shown is because the second it shows up all it means is that humanity is fucked because they can't win against it and there sort've ceases to be a point to any storytelling at that point

It's just some random boogeyman shit that Nasu threw in for nothing but filler lore

Same shit with ORT, wow something that basically just auto-wins against everything ever depicted in the entire Type-Moon franchise very interesting
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>>143732857

First Ascension
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Primate Murder is DAA #1 with a bullet. Gaia couldn't create a full on Type by itself, but Primate Murder is still the strongest thing it could create when it tried. Its called the Beast of Gaia for a reason. Its recognized as maybe the strongest thing on Earth, not counting things like Arc or ORT.
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Baking bread
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>>143734961
>still flat
Why?
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>>143734925
They are butthurt tsukihimefags trying to stay relevant when they have overstayed their welcome.
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>>143734961
I like it.
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>>143734823
>>143734823
>We don't know fucking nothing of ORT. But we know that anything big and scary are just fodder boss at most.

Great logic, ORT confirmed for shit tier boss later on you beat handily. Its power is only conceptual after all, so Stheno could entirely beat it surely.
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>>143734776
Saying that it has "authority over primates" simply means that it's above humanity and anything related to humanity. It's made to be unbeatable for fuck sake, why are you trying to make up shit to make it seem that a fucking servant stands a chance? PM is Nasu going "lol nope" to every shitty idea about humanity mattering at all. Nasu wants Fate to be like Lovecraft's stories where humanity is simply shit and everything else out there is just better and would instantly kill is if it wanted to.
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>>143734940
Humanity is fucked already.

The reason why it doesn't show up its that Nasu doesn't give a shit about Tsukihime bullshit anymore.
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>>143735094
>>143735094
>>143735094
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>>143734940
You seem exaggeratedly butthurt about something of very little importance.
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>>143734434
Post more Chen.
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>>143734973
Nasu didn't even list him when he mentioned his powerhouses. He's irrelevant.
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>The beast of Gaia. The primate killer. A white beast. >The hound of Altrouge. As it has the absolute right of killing over man, it's counted among the most powerful. Looks like a white dog and only obeys Altrouge. Not an Apostle, but is counted among the 27 as it has began to drink the blood of humans in imitation of its master.
>Requires 7 Counter Guardians (the basis of Servants) to control.
>Altrouge can be said to be an even greater monster than the Crimson Moon with this at her side.
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>>143735089
I'll never understand why some autists give a shit about a who tier monster in a work where Mashu would surely one shot him with a smack of her shield after Nasu creates a loophole. "Kohai aren't primates" or some bullshit like that.

It's embarrassing.
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>>143735104
>Saying that it has "authority over primates" simply means that it's above humanity and anything related to humanity.
It means it's above primates. It's Gaias dog that is there to fuck up humans in case Gaia wants to fuck up the humans. It has complete control over the life and death of a primate and that's super ridiculous but also the only thing that's ever been said about it.

There are beings that are not primates in this setting.

>Nasu wants Fate to be like Lovecraft's stories where humanity is simply shit and everything else out there is just better and would instantly kill is if it wanted to.
You read all Nasus shit about humanity overcoming beings ridiculously stronger then them to better themselves and came away with that?
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>>143735104
Nasu made non Fate stories about that. In Fate Humanity will fuck you up, retard. Try to follow the franchise and apply yourself.
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>>143735296
>Requires 7 Counter Guardians (the basis of Servants)
Nice headcanon. All Nasu said it requires 7 Counter Guardians. Counter Guardians are officially shit tier, fake Heroic Spirits like the EMIYAs. Now fuck off with your shitty monster.

Start a Tsukishit thread, maybe some butthurt retards will care.
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>>143735575
>Q: About the power comparison between Arc and Servants, would the Arc being compared be the 30% one or the full one?

>A: That would be the 30% Arc. It takes 7 Counter Guardians to control the Primate Murder and the Servants of the Grail War are based on these.

Hmm
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>>143735713
So it confirms they are just shitty counter guardians. Good to know.
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>>143735791
Oh I thought you legitimatelyly didn't know, good to know you're just baiting
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do I have a chance to roll berserker cu with 400gems in story gacha?
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>>143735015
>Not liking flat chest
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