Eve Online General - /eog/

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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers

>>143264575
Oh did they add dailies in today?

>Be CCP.
>Ban Stunt Flores over something he did out of game.
>Completely neglect Battleships.
>Dude Carriers can blap subcaps now lmao.
>Links still aren't fixed.
>Adds dailies to the game.
>T3C's are still a cancer to PvP.
>T3D's are still a cancer to PvP.
>Introduces SP injectors.
>This completely ruins the character market, so my newbro friends can't hop right into the game anymore for 80$.
>Jump fatigue is still a clunky pain in the ass to deal with.
>Try to PvP.
>Get blobbed.

At least I was able to go to Tama and announce that I was taking fights at the Novice and honoring 1v1's. Got some really good duels.

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did someone say battoru at Tama????

https://a.uguu.se/tSERSXbbDVTB_%CE%BE%CE%A0----%E2%89%85-FULFILL-%E2%89%85%E2%88%83---%E2%88%80__%EC%A0%84%ED%99%94%28%5E_%5E%29b.opus

>>143268609

What is this sperging?

>>143268865
have you clicked on it?

>>143268962

No.

>>143268962

>Download whatever it is on my google chrome.
>Filetype is not supported.

What is it you faggot.

>>143269014
its a song.

>>143269093
its .opus, the newest (and best) lossy compression format. firefox can play it natively.
https://opus-codec.org/

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>chrome

>daily quest
this is great for new players but fuck i dont wanna log in every day and kill something then log out

>>143271939
then dont

>>143271939
>>143273938

Yeah, it's only 10k sp. Thats nothing for someone with tens of millions already.

>>143275625
Pretty much this. I'm not even training anything on my main anymore because the only thing I have left are minmatar ships, projectiles, and capital class ships left. I've got all the combat skills I want, so I started training an industry alt or selling skills.

>minmatar ships

>>143276753

What? Literally, unironically, Svipuls online.

>not fighting the cancer in your TPV bellicose

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>svipuls
>not flying nano mallers

>mfw shitters not thinking nano stands for energized adaptive nano

>>143277512

These days I only fly things that can jump.

>>143275625
but i want that extra 3.5 million a year

>tfw shitters that think about shit things faster than shitters

>>143277667
No one has ever thought this

Nanos has always referred to nanofiber

>>143277742

Then you are going to have to kill a rat every 22-ish hours.

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>tfw 140mil sp on main pvp pilot
I don't even remember being a poor sp fag.
I'm even training rig skills right now

>>143277820
no, I use it to mean anp or eanm all the time to make people think I'm flying a nanofiber trash fit

>>143277835
So? That's effortless shit

>>143277973

It's not effortless when you have to do it on a timer. If you miss the timer, you are literally reducing your sp/hour.

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>>143277886
>mfw recommending fits to people that require armor + gun rigging 5

Another day another thead, another reset, another mallerposting.
Yet, still no arty vagabond in the fitting window.

>>143277912
It never used to mean that. When people went on nano-roams it always referred to high speed high agility ships that kite away. Things like omen navy issue and scythe fleet issue and orthrus and fast shit

>>143278205
I've decided that my usage is correct and yours is wrong

also your meme omen fit that you copy has a nano on it

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>>143278103
It's some crazy patrician next level shit most eog will never experience

>nano
>not meaning nanomachines

son

>>143278076
Thats pretty fucking effortless to get up kill a rat then log off

>>143278103
you probably dont even have tactical shield manipulation 5

>>143278205
And arty vagabonds.

>>143278484
I think I'd train jury rigging 5 first

>>143278103
Why

>>143278435
Until you realize you have to do this every day for ever until EVE dies.

Most people don't even make it past a couple of months before they take a break.
And many don't bother logging every day.

This is not including alts.

>>143278339
No hes right you're wrong.

>>143278484
I'll train for PI and Mining before that skill.

>>143278878
no sorry you're wrong too

>>143278814
Once you have eveything subcaps trained you'll understand.

And there is no need for caps and supers trained since we have alts.

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maulus best

>gallente

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>>143278918
>couple of people saying you are wrong
>nobody agreeing with you
Nah how does it feel to be wrong in an anonymous imageboard?

I can't believe I'm being dogposted, fuck you man

What the fuck happened to Battleclinic?

>>143279762
eve-kill became a lot more popular than it. I guess zkill is more popular than eve-kill now

I think at some point battleclinic replaced their old hideous design with a new hideous design

>>143279282
you dont have to do it. its just your autism thats making you think you either have to do it all the time or never. you can miss a bunch and still get 2mil at the end of the year and thats fine.

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>that one guy who does pve instead of gambling

>training for 3 things at the same time
>it's gonna take 3 months to complete
>say fuck this, rearrange queue so I can do one thing much sooner
>training finishes
>end up not doing it anyway because autism
Any tips on how to cure autism?

>>143280831
easy, in concept.
start up projects and almost finish them but dont. let it destroy your autism. do it over and over until you dont care anymore.
autism cured.

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>>143280762
>farm for 2 months 8 hours a day
>make close to 130bil~ isk
>gamble it all
>lose it all
>farm for 1 month 5 hours a day
>make less than 70bil~
>gamble it all
>make 400bil
>crash Rhea market
>sell 15 hulk pilots
>buy Ragnarok and pilot and Hel with pilot
>mfw I actually bought a Hel
>quit game
Fun game

>>143283115
Teach me to farm sempai.

>>143283497
2 months, 8 hours a day, so 480 hours
130bil in that time is 270 mil an hour
So either incursions or c5+ wormholes. You can do it in c4s maybe but you're not likely getting the number of sites to consistently be farming over 8 hours

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>>143284279

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>>143283497
>Join corp with sov
>Make a bunch of accounts (10+)and chain them with recruit invites so they all get 80 days of time
>buy isboxer
>Train them for hulks
>Find someone with rorq links or acquire rorq link pilot
>by day 30ish you can use them with procurers and make like 25mil/h with each but you will need someone to deal with rats in a VNI
>by day 50 you are procurer master and don't need VNI for help with drones
>by day 70 you are hulk/skiff master
>use cheap procurers when area is not safe and you are pvping on another pilot
>area is safe and scouted = whip out hulks for 60m/h
>Find someone in sov to sell pixel rocks
>Become rich

Bonus points if you invest into 5+ implants and switch clone in your citadel (no cooldown) when not mining and sell sp once you reach 5mil for extra free isk and self plexed miners.

Keep in mind this is all mostly afk, all you need to do eject ore and use freigher to move the ore but if you are doing this with someone else he might be able to do this, essentially making it even easier for you.

Also if you group up with procurers you become un killable and you can legit ignore gangs roaming around unless they want to get killed in 1 second by a hundred procurer drones.

Procurer is just too comfy and they cost like 25mil each so you can just simply not give a fuck.
But if you ever want to go full autism and make 7 bil isk in a single day you will need hulks which are defensless expensive shits.

Is there a ship that can solo C3/C4 sites in a wormhole and complete them in a practical amount of time so as to reduce the window for ganks? I've got a buddy who can salvage things for me, so a spare high is not an issue.

why do none of the eve market websites have a $/m^3 cost for high sec ores? obviously this is the best way to figure out what you should be mining...

>>143285187
http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore

>can't activate PLEX from inside citadel
Well done CCP. Thanks for no warnings.

>>143285187
http://eve-calculator.com/mining/income_calculator/ore.html

http://www.eve-cost.eu/reprocessing

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/

>>143285125
You should probably load up a Mach or Rattle, but you might want to bling it a little. To make sure you're at minimum risk for ganks, be sure to tell us what J- you're ratting in so the eog standing fleet can come defend you

>>143285125
but what if that buddy of yours is my alt

>>143285073

But doing that would make me want to drink gasoline and snort burning iron filings.

>>143285562
>https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore
there we go

>>143286053
Then stay poor
I was basically top pvp pilot in zkill for 4 weeks while doing all this, not that it means much but it shows you can have fun while the miners mine in the background.

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>>143285394
So what do I do now? Did I just waste 900mil ISK?
This might force me to quit the game...

Anyone?

>i was top pvp pilot

>>143286427
write a stuck petition or something

>>143286427

Can't you put it in the redeeming system?

>>143286660
If it works like in stations, it's gonna be redeemable only to that same citadel.
Haven't tried that yet, don't want to make things worse.

>>143286758

Then just haul it to a station in a covop frig?

>>143286824
Can't fly it.
Also that's insane risk, why can't I just activate right there?

>>143287224

Better question is why did you buy a plex anywhere else but jita 4-4?

>>143287430
What's the difference?
Apart from it not being a citadel of course.

>>143287430
>buying plex in jita

https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=29668

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Returning to redeem doesn't work either.

Also I accidentally discovered there's a "Move All Items to Asset Safety" option.
How does that work?

>>143288936
did you get a petition response yet?

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Elite solo pvp.

>>143289025
No, why should I waste precious GM time?

Asset Safety lets me move things from citadel to other stations in the system after a 5 days delay.
So I can just let my sub expire and use hours for plex in 5 days... or I can risk it.

>>143289773
And... there's no other stations in the system.
Meaning I can't even use Asset Safety.

Why CCP? Why you do this to me?

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>>143290389
Figured I could handle 50m lost by selling it and buying plex somewhere else.
Guess what? Can't even sell it.

This is some fucked up shit right here.

>>143291254
they are very quick with stuck petitions m8

>>143291680
I managed to sell it, only the buy order inside the citadel worked.

They could spare me so much trouble with just a small harmless warning saying that PLEX can't be activated in citadels...
Oh well. Lesson learnt - don't buy PLEX in citadels.

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i'm so sick of looking at green dots
is there any other nerdy science-y or explore-y stuff i can do

>>143289391
why did you hang out long enough for a carrier to lock you?

Why did you dock at a kickout station?

>>143295129
Carriers lock in 1s now with the new instalock module.

>>143295326
No they don't

A Network Sensor Array barely gives the carrier the scan res of a destroyer

>>143294420
Do you get anything for doing this minigame?

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>>143295698
loyalty points to get the labcoat i'm wearing
i saw people trying to sell these for like 99 million credits in jita, along with the sisters of eve cosmetic armor

>glasses

>>143295698
>>143296257

You get AK points, but you missed the boat if you want to make any money, and autists have continued playing nonstop since its release, so if new items are ever released you wont be able to compete either

why dont huge looking asteroids actually contain a much larger amount of ore? stupid

>>143297379
are you a real space miner

>>143298170
in the flesh. questions comments concerns?

>>143295621
Gr8 b8 m8

>>143298852
>800mm scan res
thats literally destroyer tier

>>143289391
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54210635/

>>143298340
Do you have mining permit?

>>143298968
hahahahaha

>>143298961
Now add sebo

>>143299013
er, well heh, i mean i used to before the great depression. please dont tell concorde, i swear ill mine faster than i ever have before and get it asap!

>tfw tempted to resub
t. a faggot

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This is on two different trial accounts.
I don't understand. They both seem to have all the same skills.

>>143301195
>mining on trial account
Retard

>>143301195

>immediate

>week

one is a sell order, which adds broker fees

>>143265569
>At least I was able to go to Tama and announce that I was taking fights at the Novice and honoring 1v1's. Got some really good duels.
You lost me there you weird 1v1 gay perve.

>>143301827
What about the lasers.

>>143284279
>2 months, 8 hours a day, so 480 hours
>130bil in that time is 270 mil an hour
80m isk = 1 dollar
3 dollars an hour
8 hrs a day
for 2 months
You're a fuckin joke.

>>143299243
Yeah add a sebo

guys how do i make 270mil an hour

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>>143302457
First of all thats only profit and not the 20 plex needed for all the accounts but also I never gave out a set amount of hours worked, I just mentioned the window in which I was the the computer which might have included mining most of the time.

Clocking it down to min/max I was able to make 7bil per day with hulks in those 8 hours.

But thats too much work so most was spent on procurers with very little attention on them, many times even wasting ore by not ejecting it from cargo while PvPing.

At the end I was able to acquire over 1 trillion isk in assets and liquid isk in less than 4 months with not much effort or knowledge while being pretty new to the game (1 year next month) and I still keeping all my accounts active so they skill up but don't currently play, stopped a week after citadels came out.

>>143303490
what were you mining on the procurer?

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>>143303490
Oh i stand corrected, you're not a glassy eyed fuckwit wasting his life at all.
Reminder that all PVE activity makes you PVP content.
Even killing 10 ratting chimeras out from under one of these robots isn't satisfying because they are so rich, smug and lifeless they a) just replace all the shit and b) never get discouraged from doing shifts for spaec shekels that add up to half minimum wage for a 13 year old.

>>143303490
Why are you not using retrievers?

>>143304257
i dont get it
what did you think he was doing that was so terrible?

>>143302480
???

>>143304784
I was being sarcastic, i think spending hours in game to scratch up spaec money is a delirious waste of a short life. Don't even call it a playstyle, since he's claiming 20 plexes plus the 270m (3bucks) an hour, that's some zombie tier hobby right there. People like that exist in the game to be slightly more challenging targets than rats.
>>143304481
Retrievers can be one shotted away even in hisec, a Proc can tank BS rats and needs a lot of dps to clear away. He's probably running a multibox army of pigeon miners hoovering up roids in hisec, the opposite of SPAEC ADVENTUER.

>>143304481
Cuz people roamed around a lot in my area and I had 15 procurers, other guy I did it with had 10.
So multiply by 5 and you have a very angry drone swarm on very tanky ships.
Like the retriever can get killed with 3 bombers or like 3 arty svipuls warping in and out real fast.

>>143303490
>I make about $100 in play money a day, mostly afk and i don't think i'm cancer.
wew lad

>>143303227
Dualbox incursion
C4 whs

>I spend 24/7 in elite frig solo peveepee in novice plexes and I don't think I'm cancer

>>143285073
I'd rather be poor in-game. And despite your claims that you are doing this mostly "afk" you're still setting it all up on the front end. I highly doubt that I would be as effective if I just turned on 10 accounts and went to work for 9 or 10 hours.

And you're botting. Call me a fag or whatever, but I don't do that shit in online games. Maybe you're actually keying inputs for each of those, but then you're sitting at your computer all day anyway. For space money that's easy enough to earn without all that shit.

On the plus side, maybe if enough people did that it would destroy the economy and CCP would finally do something about multiboxing.

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>>143305507
>>143305785
I'm sorry you have a boring job that requires you to be present in order to gain your wage but I made the fantastic choice of becoming a mediocre programmer for a small food distrubution company that lets me operate from home and make 90k a year after taxes from the comfort of my home with a minumum of 10 hours a week in the office.

Plus mining with a buddy that happens to be an amazing seasoned programmer actually helps my well being and keeps my lazy ass updated, so win-win-WIN.

>know I'm missing out on 10k SP
>still too lazy to log on for 5 minutes to fly out to a belt and kill one rat frig

>>143305613
so you mined in low sec then? null?

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>>143306397
I know nothing: the post.


>>143306665
Sov null

>>143271939
>log in
>sit in frigate
>warp to a belt or two
>kill frig rat
>dock
>log off

>>143306719
Perhaps you could grace me with some of your wisdom then

>>143306397
Are you retarded? They gutted multiboxing by outlawing isboxer, you still can run a lot of accounts at once but its far less efficient than it used to

whats the average size roaming gang in null sec when you have to deal with one?

>>143307192
I haven't played the game in 4 years man

>>143285073
>isboxer
How are you not banned for input broadcasting?

>>143307309
Deoends who it is. 10-20 for horde staging. But it escalates quickly.

>>143306719
so what did you mine?

>>143308471
fish

>>143307827
He is a programmer.

>>143307827
I don't broadcast
Only broadcast and some videofx stuff is bannable.
The only purpose of isboxer is to be able to run many clients without making your pc die and easy switching between them/monitoring.

>>143308471
bistot
arkonor
gneiss

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>its a poorfags get angry and jelous of patrician tycoon overlords episode

i'm 5 days from piloting a charon
how popular will this make me with nulsec corps because i'm bored of hisec already

can also fly black ops 4 days after that if that helps

>>143310848
You mean Rhea?
Because if you mean a Charon.
No null corp gives too shits about regular freighters, too slow and too much trouble.

>>143311028
oh, 5 days and an hour then

>>143309130
How did you transport ore to sell?

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>smug grindfags

I want to get into industry out here in null with my new alliance. As a newbro, how would I do that? What skills should I train? I like logistics and all that, so I think this could be fun.

>>143311235
Assuming you can afford the Rhea (7bil last I checked) you will also need cyno alts (around 1 week train on a fresh pilot for cyno 4, or 1 injector) to be a fast and effective JF.

After that you can set up a JF service for a Null corp and make some easy income, it won't be much unless you can fill the cargo everytime, but still they will like you.

Might also wany scout and a webber but thats very optional, just don't get killed.

>>143311358
Sold to people next door that build supers and caps and more shit which I have no clue how it works.

so are there any areas of null sec that just dont have as many people as others that people know about? any place that i can go to be a little safer for the first time

>>143311760
I think you talked about jettisoning ore earlier. I was wondering if you had a ship dedicated to transport or if you just balled up all your procurers and sold everything at once.

>>143311872
if you're concerned for your safety you should probably reconsider going to nulsec, or find a corp that will hold your hand on your first outing

>>143311872
Curse, parts of drone regions.

>>143312012
Oh yes a regular freighter will just come pick it up every random time.
I don't do that job tho my friend does it.
I did links
His freighter is fitted for align and has nomad implants plus one of our procurers has a web with point and laser for general pvp/drone rat tagging and webbing the freighter.
Unless someone sneaks a cloaky sabre somehow its not possible to catch it.

[Badger, STARPRISE ENTERSHIP]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

yes? no? maybe?

>>143312338
I started playing a few days ago and started mining as there wasn't much to do in an ibis. Now I find myself just repeatedly selling veldspar between games of dota or whatever else I happen to be doing. Learning how to make mining really profitable is interesting.

>>143312881
Theres really no point to mine outside of specialized ships in great numbers.

The money is just too shit until you are past 5 pilots and links are not an option, literally double the income.

>>143313216
I have about 30 million now. What should I spend it on?

>>143313539
I wouldn't recommend mining on a main account.
I'd invest half into pvp and the other half into mining for an alt account.

>>143313216
the money would be shit if you were paying as much attention to it as a mission, but if i'm sat in a belt for 3 hours with minimal effort i'm still able to buy a plex each month & pricey skillbooks.

people rag on mining, but whenever i burn out on missions i just take up mining and put chunks of shit in my skill queue and catch up on awful tv shows

>>143313809
So I should still mine and use the mining account to pay for pvp shit and plexes while fucking with people on another account?
I was thinking of getting a vexor.

>>143314013
enough to buy plex mining in highsec?

>>143314184
with a mackinaw yes

>>143312845
null sec to jita?

>>143312845

> has cloak
> doesn't have mwd

wut ?

>>143299289

Ignore the mining permit faggots. Just don't mine afk, if you see a destroyer warping to you just warp out.

>>143316862
please dont try to bait me. i swear ill have the permit soon. i just dont have the money right now!

>>143312845
Needs MWD
Only covops cloak haulers can get away with no mwd for highsec and lowsec.

so what should i drive to complement my buddies vexor on lower level missions? were on trial accounts. i need a role

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>>143317257
>using a vexor

>>143317351
please dont use creepy chan to make fun of my friend. we came here and asked what he should do and droning was a suggestion! was it not a good idea?

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>>143317453
Just trying to fit in senpai.

>>143317453

It's perfectly valid for newbros. More dps = faster kills is always a role, you could fit a shield or armor remote repair module to keep him topped off.

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>>143317257
Gnosis
Rail Cormorant
Confessor
VNI
Arty Vagabond
Polarized Machariel
50km Neut Curse
Tachyon Armaggedon
Combat Heron
Vengeance
Navy Drake
Rokh

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>>143310817
>>143306524
>afk job
>afk hobby
>smug
Yeah you've got life by it's scrawny little neck.
My job (running a martial arts school in the drive-by part of town) is irrelevant, but whatever makes your afk cube feel epic, son.
Guy who talks like you in a wh corp had just been awoxed by ceo when i logged in one day. He was given an ecm fit raven and told to fuck off because: "I just can't stand the sound of his voice."
I bet nobody tells you anything, except where the chicken tendies are.

>>143314707
>mackinaw in hisec
I hope you bought a mining permit and are following new halaima code of conduct

>>143318219
>martial arts
Nothing my AR can't stop

>>143318018
um were on trial accounts!!!!!!!!

>>143316862
>""""""just"""""" warpout
>get bumped by cruiser
Lmao i hope you didny want that barge anyway!
>lol just warp out of belt if something gets close lol
Just join bovril, retard

>>143318432

Gnosis can be used by trialbros!

>>143318432
A gnosis is a far better and edgier vexor that requires no skills.

>>143318549

Well, no. It's a extremely nice noobship, but it's not as cost-efficient as vexor, and can't be fit for sniping with wardens as a vexor can.

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>>143318382
>reply within 100 seconds
Yeah, that's what it's all about, Cletus.
>>143318446
Actually with these gigantic grids you can see someone set red coming from miles away, they appear about 1600km out. Extra second or so to align if you aren't already. I hunt with a covops and bookmark the roid, even landing the dps ship at zero is no guarantee anymore.
>mfw got my first killmark on a blaster Prospect today, lowsec ambush.

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>>143318709
>newbro
>vexor
>sentries
Dog pls


>>143318857
Are you not gonna invite me to your dojo?

>>143318976

t1 sentries don't take all that long.

okay im the dude that has to play with the vexor. i think i wanna do logistics and just repair him. hopefully he can go less tanky and do more dps like that. maybe i can paint targets or something at the same time? maybe drive the exequror? and what level mission should we aim at doing? 2 or 3?

>>143319163
Without supporting drone skills like durability they won't apply much damage and they'll get wrecked by rats. You could still make em work but burning out to range and repping em is a whole 'nother style of mission running.

>>143319919
Do 2s until you think you got it down, 3s sometimes need BC tank n damage.

>>143319937
you put a shit gun on your ship and get initial aggro so they dont shoot your sentries

>>143319937

>sniping
>wrecked by rats

That's not how it works.

>>143319919

Exeq is fine. You'll be on your way to be a logibro.

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Look at me mom!
I'm sniping from 30kms!!

>>143320202
:D
thanks

>>143320289

You can fit a remote sensor booster and help him lock faster/further.

>>143320243

Even a newbro can use t1 cpu and drone upgrades and rigs.

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>anon we need you to fly logi again
>anon why is your zkillboard so empty? We told you not to be innactive or we'll kick you


Don't fall for the logi meme.

>>143320489

You can always whore in on killmails with a single combat drone.

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>drone rigs

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>143320663

For a newbro trying to snipe, drone range rigs may be just the thing they need.

>>143320079
Rat AI will switch targets to drones.
>>143320862
Yeahp, but we got a cancer cell here who feels alive by telling people they're wrong about stuff, don't get drawn in, the sadness rubs off onto you.

>>143321958

In that case the loginewbro can repair the sentries instead!

>>143322115
>>143320079
Well played, i can see you're never wrong about anything.
>you're a drag, m8.

>>143322115
i feel like this is a troll now. what should we actually be doing friends?

>>143322956

Just both of you be vexors and double team up on a target to kill it faster.

Missile noob here. What do the various missile rigs do? Which one is for hitting smaller targets better with big missiles? Rigor?

>>143323050
but i wanna do something ELSE

>>143323982

In missions there's not really all that much you can do besides contributing more dps or repping. Remote sebo/tracking comp/target painting.

>>143324159
i just want to be a logi but everyone is making fun of vexor friend like he will be insufficient with his kawaii chiisai drones. i dont want to believe.

>>143324385

when your vexorbro can upship to a dominix that'll shut them up.

>>143324693
how about myrmidon? battleship would take a long time to train

>>143325454

Yeah myrmi too, although a VNI is situationally better sometimes.

>>143325540
VNI?

>>143325663

vexor navy issue.

>>143325794
It looks more expensive and worse in every way except bandwidth.

>>143320489
>being in a muh killboard corp

>>143326160

That extra bandwidth means 1 extra sentry/heavy drone. Which is the primary statistic you want for a droneboat.

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>>143326160

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Dont die dog

>>143328006

Except in eve, 80 lv1's can totally fuck up a lone lv80.

>eve
>levels

>>143329468
every skill has 5 levels

>5
>80

>>143329468
>>143329636

If it makes you feel better, just add up enough skill levels to make it lv80.

>>143329636
you level up every time you get a skill to 5

>>143329812

More like you level up for lv4 and again at lv5, if we are talking about ship skills.

does a target painter help drones really?

>>143331487
drones are shit dont use them

>>143331565

Fuck off.

>>143331487

Yes, especially sentry drones from long range against small targets.

>tfw get trapped in a collapsed wormhole and then podkilled by a stealth bomber

>>143332876

Don't go into w-space without a probe scanner, probes and mobile depot.

Finally gonna evolve my Gila to the next level when I get this 50th kill

cats y u leave

>>143333651
whats a gila

>>143333717
some gay pve shit

>>143333717
Pirat shib with some nice bonubs

>>143328102

Or five level 1s whose against a stupid vagabond

1v1 me amamake at the sun, faggot.

>>143336227
>sun
Fite me in top belt

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>there will never be a sexier ship
eve is over go home

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>amarr

Have there been any recent (past 2 or 3 years) that let new players be relevant in the game without having to buy a character or wait for months for skillpoints?

>>143343274
if you arent poor you can buy skill injectors

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>>143343274
Tackle is always relevant, atrons are cheap and easily T1 fitted to be fast and durable.
Logi frigates
Venture/endurance /Prospect for ninja mining rocks gas ice so being poor isn't just a given.
Pick an assault frigate to train for after core skills, while you fight, mine n die in T1 ships. You will really appreciate the difference and it's worth the time to learn about details like transversal, tracking, overheating when you die cheap.

>>143344751
>seriously suggesting t1 trash pvp in svipul online
He is better off spinning fw plexes in warpstab venture for first few months.

>>143344934
which teaches nothing.
spaec adventure gaem not spaec creep around doing lame tricks to get spaec shekels holy shit anon why are you such a fucking faggot.
I kill stabbed ventures with my 2 scram reaper, can't find any more in the region now.
Fly with a gang or join a big organised group, bulkhead atron is tough as fuck, blaster shieldy merlin also v stronk.
>telling newbros to camp butans in stabbed shit

do incursions ever use marauders?
I guess it might not be worth it without bastion

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>tfw you're the pvp god in /eog/
>tfw that's like saying you're better than test or brave

>>143348820
I have seen paladins, but armor incursions seems pretty dead so who knows

>>143350367
TDC Flightlist still seems to go out, I don't know if anyone organizes for it though. They run armor primarily.

>>143348820
I suppose they could, but most incursion pilots seem to prefer pirate battleships for damage. Plus, Marauders lack mobility when in bastion mode.

>>143348820
Golem is dank because painters. you can use vargur, but mach is better. Kronos is garbage and pally lacks one mid.

>>143350982
There is also no reason to use the kronos when vindicator exists

>>143343274
Yes, CCP boosted the fuck out of ewar cruisers and added ewar frigates. Everything else a newbie can fly is utterly irrelevant and whoever tells you otherwise is either dumb or a troll.

>>143346670
It gets you starting capital, and time to up skills a little, to do whatever the fuck, no obligations.

Money is the most emancipating thing in EVE, just like in rl, with enough money you can try anything without giving it a second though and worrying about not being able to afford something else.

>>143318239

ohhh i'm so scared of some cowards who have 0 claim to internet spaceship simulator star systems because they're too scared to succeed in nulsec. waaaaaaaaaaaa.

>>143316563
pretend it's there

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>highsec

popblues tier

What is the deal with these CODE people anyway? I mine with my industry alt on occasion and no one ever bothers me. Do they only target large mining operations with Orca support, or have I just gotten lucky?

I don't mine close to trade hubs, is that it?

>Discover new type of wormholes one day.
>No clue where they lead, no known designations for them.
>Only way to find out is to go through, so we go through.

>Discover an entirely new set of systems and worlds.
>Not only that, but corporations never seen before.
>Ships never seen before.
>Jumpgates in unfamiliar styles.
>Discover dockable stations with humans at them.
>Turns out, EVE Online has merged with ADAM Online, new systems are actually four new empire factions complete with their own line of ships and unique weapon types.
>Entire world of players playing, complete with big nullsec alliance blocks.
>Their world has collided with ours, and players from both sides are looking to exploit the other.

>Nullsec alliances band together to jump through these new wormholes and wage war on some identical nullsec alliances an entire system over.

>>143358924
They are bored pvp alts that bought into the james531, or whatever his name is now, rhetoric and now making him rich.

They mostly target soft solo targets, if you are miner, or rich industrials/freighter they can catch passing through few high sec systems they stage at.

>>143359296
your so gay

>>143359296
Replace Eve and Adam with Tranquility and Serenity and you have a fantasy quite a few people have tossed around.

>>143360004
Serenity being the Chinese server? I think they're pretty divorced from us ideologically, right?

I've heard Chinese EVE's null presence is actually one massive block of alliances with nearly no major conflicts that aren't just for show. Everyone works together and has a place on a heirarchy system, ganks are fairly uncommon. Prices in markets are completely out of whack because there's a huge influx of minerals and materials and no nearly enough demand, while their PLEX equivalents are basically unpurchasable because everything else outside of officer mods are dirt cheap. Even wormhole residents are made up of sub-branches of various alliances that recognize de facto sovereignty of each other and don't poach in others' space.

This might be incorrect or out of date, it's just the only things I heard about Serenity.

>>143360476
Pretty much that. Now just imagine how fun it would be to throw them into a box with a bunch of bored Tranquility Nullblob alliances.

Could somebody send me an invite? [email protected]

>>143360942
sent

>>143360632
Wouldn't they just stick together even harder and have a fuckton of more resources than our alliances due to the lack of war? They'd find themselves in an Us vs Them scenario and basically contract to a region they have the numbers to defend.

No matter how you slice it, I think they'd simply wind up owning a large section of space like the Russians, but being much more unified and cohesive.

>>143361151
The other side of that coin though, is that they haven't got good FC's, they don't know the abusive metas and they don't understand how to prosecute a war. Chinks are massive carebears all the time. They don't fight each other, they barely even suicide gank on Serenity. Just imagine all the high sec Orca ganks in the first week.

>>143361007
thanks

>>143359296
>>143360004
>>143360476
There was a short presentation about that on fanfest, but dunno if it wasn't just a RnK fanwank.

I'm not really sure how would ccp have to solve this politically because china is china.

Also i'm pretty sure first thing that would happen if servers merged is a fleet of ceptors named FREE TIBET swarming into Serenity.

>>143361437
You want any help btw? It is pretty nice for me is you sub as you might know

>>143361389
Oh, I didn't think about that. That would be great to see. I don't know if they could learn fast enough to adapt, so it'd be a race against time to get better before they run out of resources to do so.

They've got great internal management, but if someone starts shit from the outside, the might not know how to react efficiently and simply rely on weight to fix the issue. Tranquility would be too heavy to fix for them in their current way, however.

>>143361624
Garble all communications and names, including systems

It could be a pretty cool mechanic I think

what is this fax machine shit

>>143363218
Logi Capitals.

>>143363218
Old carriers used to have multi-role abilities between being the ultimate logi ship and having the ultimate free range of drones and offensive abilities

New carriers can only use fighters

the logi ability was split off the carrier and created into the new Force Auxiliary Machines, dubbed Fax Machines for brevity. These ships are the ultimate logi now and possess the former abilities of Triage and long range logi projection.

>>143363430
>>143363419
thank you

I dont think I'll ever skill into caps, having a cyno alt is a drag

Lif>Apostle>Minokawa>lol

>>143363601
Apostle=minokawa>>>>>>>>>>lif=ninazu

>>143363657
you=pleb

>>143361823
Coming from dota, chinks are great at playing meta but terrible at adapting and creativity.
I am unsure if there are enough ways to exploit that in this game.

>legion
neuts, sweet hams

>proteus
fast warpin, high dps, drones

>tengu
great for sites, good tank and dps

>loki
webs. thats it.

why is this allowed?

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>Coming from dota

>>143364026
>I'm not interested in projectiles as a whole, I only want them to be fixed on the loki, probably because I'm a wormhole shitter who only flies T3s

>fast warpin

>>143363845
the apostle out tanks, out reps and out performs the lif and ninazu all the time every time

>unironically drone proteus
Lol
>high dps
lol

Loki is for links, both forms of tank, scanres.

>>143364203
>durr buffer tanking is better than active tanking
>check out my 5 cap rechargers guys

>>143364026
>>loki
>webs. thats it.
It doesn't have good shield subsystems, all of the subsystems that would give it valuable mids comes in the form of other dumb subsystems and shit

>>143364186
you are wrong mate, hurricane needs to return

>>143364326
>apostle
>buffer tanking
no

you wonder why no one uses the lif and ninazu? because the apostle does everything the lif does and better

>>143364496
except for active tanking and having cap

>>143364570
>>143364326
Every triage ever was active tanked and stuffed with cap rechargers and boosters.

>haha who needs reps and cap sustenance when i cant receive RR xDD

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>>143364940
so you're agreeing with me

>>143364570
>+5% to cap capacity per level
>what are batteries to negate neuts and increase huge sums of cap pool
>successfully subverts above while its in triage

the apostle is flat out better and reps more because of its resist bonus and superior ability to manage cap

your dumb meme bonus of getting extra cap per cap charger forces you to lean on cap boosters and you'll never last as long as an apostle in any extended fight especially those that last more than 1 triage cycle

You seriously wonder why NO ONE uses lifs and ninazus? PL and every relevant alliance ONLY fields apostles and minokawas

>>143365118
>what are batteries

you can fit more batteries on a ninazu

>muh ad populum

I'm not convinced by this because I'm not a retard

>it reps more because it has a resist bonus instead of a rep bonus

ok

Armor barghest>buffer triage

>>143365275
>you can fit more batteries on a ninazu
you only need 2 to negate half of all neuts, remember regular large batteries give more neut resistance of 25% than capital at 20%.

>I'm not convinced by people figuring out how shit works, my anecdote or special snowflake forced paradigm is true because I said so.

>>143365484
when you resort to telling me that pl uses x, this shows that you don't know shit. you should be telling me the actual reasons.

how do you think the internal fitting discussion of good alliances goes? do you think they fling shit at each other and wank on about which meme alliances use what, as proof that something is good?

>>143365674
I already told you the actual reasons, it has longer cap life, better resists, better tank, better triage projections because of its cap and resist bonuses, it lasts longer and reps better under neut pressure

>>143365875
the actual reason why it's better, I think, is because the remote rep duration bonus on the ninazu is fucking shit. if it had the amount bonus, which is better, I think it would be ok.

rate of fire fags are the worst

>>143359296
>>Nullsec alliances band together to jump through these new wormholes
nullbears are scared of wormholes
this would never happen

>>143366756

i've never seen wormholers drop anything less than 80+ t3c's

>>143367219
maybe you shouldnt live in nullbear land then

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>delusional whfags

>help he called me a nullbear

>surely only the guy I'm talking to must think I'm retarded

Is there a best double-comp than Dominix RR/Sentries for ratting ? ( Except double carrier )

>>143366034
If it didn't have a bonus that relied on using cap boosters and cap charges it would be a superior system.

Cap regen on capitals has always been a superior way of getting "free cap" because managing cap has always been very lenient on capitals due to the raw size of cap pools. With 5% to cap pool, the ability to shrug off neuts with dinky large battery II's you can subert neuts for minutes and successfully survive triage and get out.

>>143367696
remote repping with only 2 ships is retarded

>>143367770
but you rep your drones anyway, dont you?

>>143367770
3 RR ships ?

>>143367696
You need more than 2 ships to get a decent tank out of repping.

People usually need at least 3 preferably 4 to take on C5 cites in RR domis or rattlesnakes.

>you need 3 or 4 rattlesnakes to do c5s
damn nigga u dumb as shit

>>143367883
Only for NS ratting, while waiting for the carrier
>>143367883
Rattlesnakes RR users use

>>143367720
I don't know shit about capitals, but after looking at eft for like 2 minutes, wouldn't a ninazu with 2 large cap batteries and 3 heavy cap boosters be decent on cap? 218 cap per second each and they cost ~0 grid

also am I right in thinking capital ancillary reps are dick compared to subcap ancils?

>>143367980
Thanks auto-post

>>143367883
My question was dumb, anyway

I've thrown myself at this game 3 times now to try and get the legendary addiction that I always hear people talking about, trying again for the 4th time with a fresh new trial.

I want to be a space business person or space blue collar miner/laborer.

How do I get into this shit?

>>143368146
>I want to be a space business person or space blue collar miner/laborer.

you get into eve by doing fun things (pvp, which is where the real game is) with friends. doing boring shit is how you quit after a week

>>143367305

i do, having a blast with real pvp

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>not neuting from 49kms on your curse

>>143364261
Proteus is far better for scanning.

t3 battleships when

maow fuck off

t3 t3s when

>>143370582

fucking never hopefully

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>maow cant even fly T2 battleships or even T2 large guns
>keeps shitposting about T3
This kind of poetry just writes itself.

>flying T2 battleships

what about t3 battlecruisers

can you fly t2 battlecruisers yet maow?

>implying maow maoe can fly anything but suicide asteros

>>143372259
I bet not even 10% of eog can fly command BCs

>>143372259
im not this maow faggot so stop sucking his dick

who is maow

is she a girl like Reyni?

>>143372416
you sound like a massive retard, stop posting moron

kev stop shitposting

>>143372491
cant hear you over that dick in your mouth

>>143372485
No and Reyni sucks and is gross
Is there another all-out girl?

>>143370582
I'd personally like to see another kind of combat T2 battleship that wasn't like a marauder with real T2 resists and abilities

>>143373104
Are you about to suggest more micro jumping ships, I swear to god anon.

do you guys like vaporwave???

>>143373456

I listen to it when i vape.

Which is all the time.

>>143373332
No, just a sort of "assault battleship" kind of like heavy assault cruisers

I liked the battleships with fighters idea, at least its easily tunable and makes a bit of sense

>>143373581
they specifically said like 8 years ago that they don't want to do it because heavy assault ships are cancer and they want t2 ships to have proper roles. then they made t3 cruisers

>>143373746
well obviously it doesn't matter 8 years ago because fozzie and rise started working at CCP less than 6 years ago.

The sky is the limit but currently there is no real assault battleship that is a step up from a regular battleship.

>>143373829
the reasoning was correct though, 'hurrdurr more deeps more bonus more range more tank' classes are faggot shit