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Shitcrow Edition

Last map: >>140434718

>2.2.2 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647114

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Rough mapping guide (ignore IIQ advice if it's still in there)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1489756
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Guaranteed demi classes:
Slayer
Raider
Hierophant

Anything else?
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literally play hardcore or fuck off
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>>140692605
dumb catposter
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>>140692450
I wouldn't be sure about hierophant

Crit totems does good damage and is safe
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>>140692450
>implying

all the tryhard turbotards will be going ascendent, trickster or champion

everyone else will be going slayer, berserker or hierophant because they think it will be easy demis. it won't be

the best classes to pick will be the mid range ones like occultist, assassin, pathfinder, chieftain, gladiator, inquisitor because you won't be sacrificing build quality and you won't be competing with poopsocking autists
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is the deadeye chain good enough to drop the gem?
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>>140693050
but Occultist is an extremely popular pick for ED
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>majority shitcrows in the poeg guild

absolutely disgusting. how did this happen

this entire general needs to be fumigated
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>>140693756
guess you have to log out off the thread lmao
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>>140693756
>being in a guild
explain to me the benefits of memeing with other memers and never actually mapping at high level or doing anything productive
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>>140693908
no need to be assblasted just because your memes arent dank enough friendo
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>>140693908
the ziggyd tag ruined the guild. all the best players and memers left. the guild is shit now
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>hear about garena poe and the 10 day fun league
>be skeptic, shady ass app and site, servers are russian and shit
>mfw the russian client and server run smoother than official ggg shit ever

not only it works perfectly, 150% iiq & iir is pretty fun
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Can anyone explain the logic behind Pierce getting a more damage multiplier in 2.2?

Other supports expanding the AoE/coverage of a skill have a less damage multiplier (LMP/GMP/Melee Splash and so on). Conc Effect has a more damage multiplier but also a less area penalty you need to compensate.

Pierce allows you to hit 50% more targets (even more with 100% pierce) and it comes with a damage boost too. The fuck's GGG balance team thinking?
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>>140694830
>ggg
>balance team
nice meem
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i datamined the future and it says kobe will make another account and get 1st 100 playing coc discharge with RMT'd gear but he'll get banned 1% from 100, and then havoc will get legit 1st 100 playing LA with gear that was donated to him by his stream viewers and he'll also have a cuck supporting him

two days after havoc gets 100, the 2nd 100 will be either jeebie or stey and they'll both be playing coc discharge with gifted gear and have support cucks
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give me roll your build pictures
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please post an autistic arrow build for the HC two week race
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>>140697073
what class? champion is probably your best bet
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>>140695578
thanks, frogposter
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>>140697073
I think this is my current build for phc on my CA that's at 92

stibnite+jade+dodge+grace+aa chilled ground+frenzy with temp chains CoH = fucking nothing ever hits you
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>>140697073
>>140697475
>tfw forget to link build

http://poeurl.com/Ckk
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>>140697073
herbalist hidden potential
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>>140697539
why all the flask nodes?
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The Perandues Legaue is about to end.

What do with 20.000 (in words: 20k) perandus coins?
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>>140698681
rmt
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>>140698681
Convert them into Chaos.
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>>140698441
Why not? I have like most of the worthwhile damage on the tree, the rest of the nodes can be defensive

Flasks are a huge part of my defense, so them being up basically all the time is amazing. And the flask+mana nodes give me enough mana that I don't run a mana pot unless i'm doing a no regen map. Rallying cry OP
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>>140698752
Sounds good. Know any sites where I won't get scammed and get good couns/$ ratio?
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poeurl.com/Cza

What do you think? Lightning damage ES/Life hybrid non-crit elementalist.
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>>140699289
I'm planning a similar low life ES version, why the skill duration?
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>>140699572
I plan to use a bunch of stuff that benefits from it and 45% is nothing to sneeze at. It's like an extra increased duration socketed, right? I'm thinking vaal haste/discipline/storm call, immortal call and spark mostly. But it's not like I'm going to prioritize those points.
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>>140698681
>>140699209
By the way, what happens to perandus coins once the perandus leguea ends?
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why not just go 1k strength marauder BM caustic arrow with iron grip gem?
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>>140699209
I used player auctions to buy some exalted orbs in the past.

I don't think I will play this game before act 5 again though.
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Why is Garena PoE so much better than Chris Wilson Stash Tab Simulator?
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>>140699209
perandus coins sell for 150-200 for 1 chaos, chaos goes for about 32 cents for a stack of 10, so 1 chaos is worth less than 3 and a half cents. it literally wouldn't be worth the time or effort
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>>140700510
rate my're build

poeurl.com/Czx

>BM IG CA

>+3 6l bow
>drillneck
>essence wyrm + grace
>2k+ armor chest
>CA > pierce > void manipulation > rapid decay > iron grip > empower

literally fuck tons of life, fuck tons of armor, fuck tons of endurance charges, fuck tons of damage, unpopular class, easy demi

pls r8
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>>140701310
K.
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>>140701870
Good luck getting +3 6l bow in two week race
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>>140701870
> literally fuck tons of life, fuck tons of armor, fuck tons of endurance charges, fuck tons of damage, unpopular class, easy demi
It doesn't matter. When will you fucking shitcrows understand this?

No matter how much HP/Armor/ES you have you WILL still die in ONE hit.

FUCK
THIS
UNBALANCED
GAME!
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>>140702391
isn't it easy to craft one? i remember there being a trick to getting cheap +3
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>>140701870
also
>not getting Dirty Techniques
>grab Iron grip passive node and get conc effect instead of iron grip gem
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>>140702507
Yes, only need 2 lvl 8 masters
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>>140702517
dirty techniques is gud

IG keystone doesn't work with CA though

>>140702710
i remember people getting +3 6links less than a week into perandus. maybe they were lucky or RMT
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>>140702802
why do you say iron grip doesn't work with ca? ca is a prog and prog dmg scales the dot, works with ed don't see why it wouldn't work with ca
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Anyone else avoid the labyrinth like the plague after the first week after its release?

Shit just isn't fun.

I guess that's how people make their money on ilevel 84 helms too. No one else wants to do it. Still seems like such a scam.
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>>140700510
>>140701870
>iron grip
>caustic arrow

these don't interact how you think they interact, anon
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>>140703225
it's not that bad depending on the build, only takes a few minutes to complete.
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>>140703160
>>140703274

wiki says the support gem works but the keystone doesn't you fucking daft cunts
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>>140703349
Are you reading the same wiki?

What part of

>Since this gem applies the same effect as the Iron Grip, these effects do not stack. The strength bonus only applies once if both the keystone and the gem are used together.

>The damage bonus of strength normally applies only to Melee Physical Damage. This gem causes strength's physical damage bonus to also apply to projectile attacks made with the supported skills. Only physical damage dealt by the projectile will be increased. The bonus from strength will be +1% increased Projectile Physical Damage for every five points of strength.

makes you think you're scaling projectile damage, and not projectile phys damage?

>daft cunts

At least I can read
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>>140703349
>>CA > pierce > void manipulation > rapid decay > iron grip > empower
is what the guy said... look at the tree he linked, iron grip keystone isn't selected. you my friend are the daft cunt
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>>140703335
Yeah, but it's a few minutes of absolute boredom. And you have to run the same thing over and over again.

Plus if you're not using whirling blades, which is ridiculously broken incidentally, then it takes even longer and is more annoying. And don't give me that 'but you can use a movement speed build!' crap, because the people who do that are gearing their entire character towards the labyrinth.
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>>140703542
iron grip gem clearly works with CA
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>>140703542
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>>140703542
without
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>>140704161
>>140703542
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gg
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>>140703936
>>140703986
>>140704328
It doesn't scale strength. The whole build these posts >>140700510 >>140701870 are talking about is using strength to scale CA

Which it doesn't do. A % increased proj damage on the gem doesn't make Iron Grip work with CA

>Only physical damage dealt by the projectile will be increased
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>>140704547
yes it does scale the strength. they keystone works as well. i just tested it. the wiki is wrong
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>>140704547
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Caustic_Arrow

Base duration is (2.8 to 4.8) seconds
Deals (5.2 to 550.3) Base Chaos Damage per second
Gain (30 to 49)% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage....

how stupid are you?
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>>140704547
to further the point....
Iron Grip: The strength Bonus from Iron Grip does not affect the caustic cloud damage, because the cloud is not considered as an attack. But the Iron Grip (support gem) grants increased Projectile Damage, which increase the cloud damage.
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IG DOESN'T WORK WITH CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140704692
how stupid are you for not scaling your cloud dps?

>>140704621
if it does scale cloud dps it's a bug, but i don't believe you so I'm going to test it

>>140704776
That's only talking about the % increased damage on the gem itself, not the strength scaling
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What would you nerf if you were no-fun-alloweding the game?

I'd give whirling blades three charges, change the math so there was no double dipping reduce earthquake's damage multiplier to practically nothing, same treatment to pierce, give CoC the Mjolner treatment and lower it to 30% chance to cast, remove all increased fortify effects on Champion, and while I'm at it make guardian, deadeye, trickster, ascendant and occultists balanced by removing them from the game.

Hire me up, Chris.
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>>140704954
ok, it's not a bug, caustic arrow gives 30-49% of phys dmg as extra chaos damage. iron grip the keystone applies strengths bonus to projectile attacks (5 str = 1% melee dmg, so 1% phys projectile damage). the support gem does that AND adds projectile damage.. projectile damage scales the chaos damage. the strength scaling works from the keystone because it is PHYSICAL damage, which caustic arrow gains as extra chaos damage.
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Fuck all of you for making me do this

Iron Grip does not scale CA's cloud damage.

The Iron Grip gem only scales it with it's shit % increased projectile damage that's on the gem. You'd never use the Iron Grip gem over something like Slower Proj, which has a way better more multiplier

I'm not replying about this anymore. Fuck you all
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>>140705882
Iron Grip is a keystone passive skill that applies the physical damage bonus from strength to projectile attacks as well as melee attacks.

caustic arrow
Gain (30 to 49)% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage

you were wrong, and that is ok, you don't know everything, keep reading the wiki and grinding hillock and i'm sure you will figure it all out :^)
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>Someone actually makes a fair offer on a buying a listed item from me
What the fuck just happened?
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>>140706489
probably an rmt'er
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are there any good poison build or strong builds in general?
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I just ripped my Flicker Strike trickster to a fucking volatile at +5k ES and 2k HP
instant death

What build should I do next? I am fucking sick of instantly dying to bullshit like storm bears, volatiles, lightning thorns and in rare cases, reflect

What build doesnt have to worry about any of these stupid fucking instakill artificial difficulty bullshits?

Currently leveling my 5L iron commander Champion Siege Ballista build but it's monotonous af.

Hit me with your best shot
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>>140708370
No. Nothing at all.

>>140708457
A double +damage volatile of the right enemy can easily do 10k damage in a high map at 75% resist.
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>two week race
>can't play melee or ranged because you can't get a weapon for a day or two
>mages are weak late game
>totems are nerfed to shit
>trappers are shit and have no defenses
>summoners are shit
>supports can't solo anything

nice game poetards
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>>140708673
>>mages are weak late game

play spark you non-ranking piece of shit
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>>140708897
it's not the damage, it's the lack of defenses
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>>140708969

stop using a shit build then.
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>>140709062
the only nicebuildsâ„¢ are builds that use several rare uniques

good luck getting those in time to win a demi in a two week race

i'm probably going to go ED with EB/ZO and run AA+grace+enfeeble with phase acro
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Let me be totally and completely honest about my Path of Exile skills.

I love this game. I play a lot, not like 10+ hours a day, but I like to think it's up there. I only play Hardcore, I've only traded for an item once, and I have no other friends who play PoE.

I feel like I'm missing out on half of the game because I die. A lot. I die so often that I've never gotten to the map section of the game. Ever.

But I love the rerolling process, and making new characters is exciting to me. Sure I could play standard, get out of hardcore, but I really enjoy the high-stakes thrill of permanent death.

I know that half of the Perandus league challenges - the ones to do with mapping - will never be complete on my account. It's frustrating, but I accept it. I simply don't play the game in such a way that allows me to progress to that point. I feel like I enjoy making new characters more than I desire to reach endgame. I love new excuses to make a new character. I have 6 in Perandus HC all between level 30-60, just because I found an item for a different build I wanted to try out, or I found a quality gem, or because someone looked at me funny.

I think I'm the perfect candidate for race seasons, and events, and new leagues. I jumped on the Garena server as soon as I saw that 10 day race they were running. Why? Because hell yeah... I could make a new character! (I made a few already due to those nasty Volatile mods. They hit hard at level 2 and my poor Templars kept getting one-shot!)

My point? I don't know if I have one. I suppose part of me is really thankful that Chris Wilson and his team of rascals has made such a fun and challenging game. Not since Diablo 2 have I enjoyed playing for so long, despite not getting to the end game content. Even though I haven't made it that far, I love the game and keep trying (though only half-assed really) to get there.
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>Entire league is centered around Cadiro deals giving cheap, high value uniques
>I still make three times more from frametime farming than Cadiro farming because most of the good items that Cadiro could've offered have had their offer-rates tweaked
Okay dude.
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Just remember guys that whatever build you make has to be able to use whirling blades.
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>>140709712
I'm gonna use daggers in my off-slot and switch for movement. What now.
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>>140708673
>trappers are shit and have no defenses
uuuuhhhh
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>>140709925
fuck off poopx you're shit
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>>140708663
I know. I managed to read the mob having "volatile iceblood" before dying. Couldnt get a glimpse of the other mods.
I've played this game for like 1500 hours but I still cant get over how much fucking bullshit it occasionally is.
I understand that there should be challenge, but the thing is that half the challenge of the game is to make a build that doesnt have to deal with bullshit like reflect and volatiles.

If you have a build completely proof of any of the instakill mods, you've basically won the game.
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>>140710092
so true, once you reach the top of the learning curve almost every death outside of lag/dc is some retard 1 shot mechanic
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>>140709287
Fuck off reddit.
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>>140709287
wow the asshole elitist circle jerk nature of this place is simply astounding and literally unneeded.
who cares what league i play in ? what doe MY decision have to do with YOU ? why do you care so much ? are you just that much of an asshole ? like seriously ? are you that much of a fuck head ? you remind me of those fucking idiots on the /pol/ board who get on their moral high horses and tell people how to live, it really sickens me, just accpet that some people like things different than you.
but seriously does MY decision make me any less of poe player than you ? NO it doesn't so fuck off kid.
>i like to die and lose me character
>herp-derp
>look at me im such a hardcore gamer !!!!
>please accpet me im really HARDCORE GAMERRRRR
so desperate for attention you have to live out your impotent existance by belitting others over what type of games they like to play. oh yeah you soooo cool. you such a MAN. yeah your really fucking manly.i just bet your a regular chad fucking thundercock.
no fuck you. seriously elitist assholes like you are what run communities by ostracizing you fellow members. seriously your asshole attitude it not needed go take that shit to some other community some other website because its bullshit.
I browse this place all time but am too afraid to post questions about my builds because pricks like you would shit all over me because i play standard. hey dipshit, ever actually play standard ?
ever experience that rush of using skype with your friends to narrowly survive a 76 map with every single mod to boot, no. You one of those pussies who probably thinks certian map mods are OP and whine and bitches about it. I honestly think that standard leagues are the REAL hardcore experience. it forces you to grind and it take knowledge to grind and get the proper exp per hour to achieve effectively leveling. do you know what its like to level up a character to level 100 ? have you ever even made it past 80 ?? i doubt it.
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tutorialcore
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>>140685747
I don't see the point of a 100% piercing ED. I guess it's because I've never had an issue with hitting the invulnerability aura mob.
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>wake up
>new microtransactions
>they freeze your game a second each
>no performance changes but just microtransactions
>no races
every time
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>>140714249
it's just QoL
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>>140700854
>Garena PoE
How the fuck would that even work in countries like China, considering nearly all of POE has grimdark 2edgy4u skulls in it
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>tfw someone afks in your ho
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>>140717445
Why? Do chinks have something against that sort of stuff?
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>>140719260
skulls and skellingtons are too spooky for them so they're forbidden
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d
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>Alch all my red map jewelry
>Keep all the non-junk
>I now have four tabs of rings and amulets of 2+ chaos value
>I only have four tabs
Well.
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>>140721723
>item x is "worth" y
>nobody is buying x for y
i hope you know what that means, anon
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>>140721974
It'd all sell eventually. Pay to win stash well holding me back.
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i went to church today... we are sinners... but we can strive to be good...
i'll pray for you poeg... and i hope you'll pray for me...
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based charan dropping truth bombs again

This was a response to another thread, but then it became something else.

People lament the loss of Iron Lore but then we got Crate and the very good Grim Dawn. And while it could never measure up to Diablo, Torchlight was really great too. At a larger remove, the demise of many a band has led to amazing solo careers, or the formation of something much better. In short, not all endings are necessarily tragic. They really can be just the fresh start and freedom some people need and don't even realise it until they notice they're able to breathe once more.

You know where this is going, right?

One simple question.

Who knows what GGG devs might go on to make were they unshackled from the stone pendulum tied around their necks that PoE has become?

That's a harsh way of looking at it but it's important to remember what GGG were like during the beta of PoE.

I feel like we were witnessing a creative burst of epic proportions in 2012 with PoE, but something has definitely gotten stale since then. Where other game development companies might recognise this and start new projects, GGG obstinately keep adding layers of make-up to what is essentially an ugly game. And ugly is fine, ugly is raw and visceral and most importantly it's forced to be interesting. And if we're being honest with ourselves, were Ascendancy classes really that interesting? They provided new ways of doing the same old things. And okay, thats an ARPG but there are so many ways to push the definition of ARPG. The Labyrinth was one way, but even the Labyrinth starts to reveal its repetitive layout before too long. It's a long time in the making but that doesn't change the fact that it just isn't varied enough, doesn't go far enough to entice players to run it over and again beyond the forced appeal of prizes for racing. Blergh.

But ugly doesn't mean unfinished and make-up can't conceal a lack of true polish.
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>>140724109
shut the fuck up weebran
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>>140724109
I can't put my finger on it but there seems to be an exhaustion underlining the game now, a feeling that "good enough" is increasingly the standard of work. We still have shitty character animations. Shitty minimap. Shitty chat and guild functions. Shitty text heavy character screen. Shitty white overlay to zone exits. These are all issues of polish. The lack of basic polish might be something hardcore gamers can excuse or ignore but to me they're indicative of a certain loss of desire to improve the game rather than just adding more crap for people to do.

I've been watching a lot of dev videos from other games, particularly Smite since it's another one game one company deal, and it astounds me how they never stopped tweaking the UI, effects or other points of basic polish. How one build of the game looked perfectly fine to me but then the next was just so much better. This is what designers do, after all. They see ways to make things better for the user that the user can't even imagine or expect. They strive for almost unnecessary excellence, giving the user confidence that this isn't just a good game. It's an excellent product with excellent creators.

And GGG haven't done that for this user in a very long time. The biggest UI overhaul was strictly horizontal, trading one pair of iconic images for another. Whoopdedoo.

The spark might not be dead in the GGG office but I feel we're past the inferno's brightest point. GGG used to work smart and hard. Now it seems more like just the latter. And I firmly believe it's because what PoE has become in the past four years, or failed to become, is quietly sapping their enthusiasm. That too many things are in the too hard basket or the not that important bin. This is not where you want to be as a company dedicated to designing just one game.

>>140724160
he might be a cuck who blew thousands of bucks on the game he barely even plays but he's not afraid to voice his disappointment like many other supporters do
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>>140724325
PoE2 is financially not viable right now. And it's not because PoE hasn't made GGG a lot of money. It's because GGG and PoE are inexorably linked and any money GGG makes is from PoE and goes towards PoE. If one is excellent, so is the other. If one dies, so does the other. This is a frightening fact if you consider how other game developers do things. An old adage about eggs and baskets comes to mind.

GGG are right to be incredibly proud of PoE. It's still a miracle. It's not going anywhere in a hurry.

But let me repeat that sentence, with emphasis on a certain word.

Path of Exile is not going anywhere in a hurry.

Then again, neither are we.

So if this is it, if PoE is all we can expect from GGG for now, maybe it's time for GGG to redecorate our home. To stop adding more bland, uninspired content for the sake of content, catch their breath, rediscover why they made this game, work on polishing what we already have and maybe even fall in love with PoE again.

This isn't just a matter of the game's health anymore. I think leaving so many little things unfinished is affecting GGG's ability to deliver passionate, rewarding additions to the game. I imagine it would be frustrating as a designer to know there are some really crappy things in the game that have been there for years but being unable to fix them because you're being told to work on new stuff instead. It would be unfulfilling and boring. Which in turn produces unfulfilled, bored players kept not by an excellent, complete game but merely the cheap addiction of a good game lurking behind a roulette wheel. POE always had potential to be so much more than that, but I feel GGG are caught in a spiral where they feel the best way to stay afloat is to treat the game like a casino, and players like gamblers. I think a big part of this is because we put up with an inexcusably unpolished game, which sends GGG the message that we don't care about the game, just our compulsion to keep playing.
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>>140724447
We may never know if greater things might be waiting in GGG's future should PoE die and force them to once again be truly brilliant, but if the PoE and GGG of today don't start being excellent now, starting with making the game's design and appearance worthy of its mechanics, I get the feeling we may find out sooner rather than later.
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>>140724325
He makes no valid point whatsoever. He lacks game experience, which makes him unqualified to comment on the state of the game from either a casual or hardcore perspective.
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>>140724325
>he's not afraid to voice his disappointment
He also doesn't shit about the things he posts about.
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>>140724636
>>140724734
ggg shills please go
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>>140724894
tab back to your goddess unleashed, dried lake viable shadow you fucking retard
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>>140725039
come on chris, i know you don't like being called out on your bullshit but adding a fat golden man, one boss and a couple of zones with reused tilesets to the game isn't the most a multi-million company can do in 3 months
>inb4 b-but we're working on act 5!
yeah and it won't be released for several years, just like act 4
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>>140724109
>>140724325
>>140724447
holy shit these posts are so fucking reddit it hurts
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going to take a nap
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Are they gonna fix this bug with being unable to whisper people or what?
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>>140700098
They'll be kept in standard/hardcore and Perandus shit will be introduced into the core game.

Don't coins stay on your character when you die?
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>>140728941
they stopped designing leagues with the intent of introducing them into the main game 2 leagues ago already
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Is Inspired Learning actually any good?

Let's say I have the four notables and the jewel already. Would it be as good as, say, a 15% damage 6% life jewel?
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>>140729390
Source?

And don't say it's based on because the previous two leagues aren't in the main game. That happens all the time--they've only added some things. Perfectly reasonable for Perandus to be in the main game.
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>>140729462
It's niche but a good niche. I used one on my Mjolner for the Templar nodes.
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>>140729774
Think I'll try it out. Worst comes to worth I'm out a few regrets.
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>>140729608
no, they didn't add anything

compare beyond (turned into a map mod, added to bloodlines league) to talisman (absolutely fucking nothing)
hell, even warbands and tempest are only available as darkshrine effects in the labyrinth so pretty much never
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>>140730259
Exiles.
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>>140730172
Worse comes to worst.
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Does anyone actually do pvp in this game? I want to lag somebody's video card out with SRS and vaal skeles
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>moot will never post here again
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>>140731019
good
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>>140730942
that won't lag anyone out, try crit bv + extra gore + gifts from above
that is, of course, if you somehow survive the invisible oneshot sparks from offscreen
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>>140730515
Well, the Waterways boss was pretty fun with Inspired Learning. The crystallings he summons are all rares so you get a bunch of buffs from killing them.

Plus storm heralds seem to do a lot of damage when you have them.
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>>140731019
But I am posting.
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>>140725987
Charen is too reddit even for reddit though
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>>140729608
Chris confirmed perandus not getting added to the core game on reddit twice.
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>>140734092
So most coins will be wasted then. Cadrio hardly ever shows up and when he does he's offering total fucking garbage like rare regen amulets or literal vendor trash uniques for 3k+ coins.
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PLS SUPPORT ME
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>>140734324
I dunno. I think there will still be coin collectors out there willing to pay around the current rate just so they can own the only coins there are.

I wouldn't mind being super cool with four stash tabs of perandus coins.
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fuck off with your D E A D X DDD meme faggots
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>>140740406
now that's a fine assblast
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>>140740406
>tfw I started that meme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shdiTRxTJb4
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i started playing this game few weeks ago and hit lvl 70, how hard is it to get those 36 challenges?
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>>140750710
36 isn't so hard. Only Zana 8 and the identify the rare treasures ones are actually timeconsuming/expensive.
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Here's something. I wish overgrown ruin and overgrown shrine had different fucking name

Oh nice! A tier 12! Wait, fuck you.
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>>140751910
lab enchantment also is a chore.
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>>140752073
Why don't you edit it in your filter, nerd?
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I love this game. I play a lot, not like 10+ hours a day, but I like to think it's up there. I only play Hardcore, I've only traded for an item once, and I have no other friends who play PoE.

I feel like I'm missing out on half of the game because I die. A lot. I die so often that I've never gotten to the map section of the game. Ever.

But I love the rerolling process, and making new characters is exciting to me. Sure I could play standard, get out of hardcore, but I really enjoy the high-stakes thrill of permanent death.

I know that half of the Perandus league challenges - the ones to do with mapping - will never be complete on my account. It's frustrating, but I accept it. I simply don't play the game in such a way that allows me to progress to that point. I feel like I enjoy making new characters more than I desire to reach endgame. I love new excuses to make a new character. I have 6 in Perandus HC all between level 30-60, just because I found an item for a different build I wanted to try out, or I found a quality gem, or because someone looked at me funny.

I think I'm the perfect candidate for race seasons, and events, and new leagues. I jumped on the Garena server as soon as I saw that 10 day race they were running. Why? Because hell yeah... I could make a new character! (I made a few already due to those nasty Volatile mods. They hit hard at level 2 and my poor Templars kept getting one-shot!)

My point? I don't know if I have one. I suppose part of me is really thankful that Chris Wilson and his team of rascals has made such a fun and challenging game. Not since Diablo 2 have I enjoyed playing for so long, despite not getting to the end game content. Even though I haven't made it that far, I love the game and keep trying (though only half-assed really) to get there.

I guess I'm just not that good at this game. And I love it.
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Copypastas don't really work if you post the same ones multiple times in the same thread.
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Why is it so hard to make a melee witch reeeeeee
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>>140758458
>Smells of reddit
>Check it out
>One of the first things
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4h96zh/i_am_not_good_at_path_of_exile_but_i_love_it/
ebry tiem
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>>140760328
Because despite ggg saying anything build on any class is what they want they have pigeonholed every class
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>>140762605
And Ascendancy has done that even more (pigeon-holing) I personally don't care how diverse/free the classes are in this game but GGG early on kept pushing the whole "anyone can be anything!" meme and this has deteriorated over time with every update.
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>>140762535
Well you just blew my cover, asshole.
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>>140762909
You weren't even trying.
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>>140762605

True. The fact that the beginning of the Witch tree has an obligatory useless node if you want to build non spell non ES is a good sign of that. That second node should be a mana node, not a ES node. You shouldn't be forced to take completely useless nodes for a given build or stat nodes at the very beginning of your character build.
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>>140762605
You can, to an extent. If you try something retardedly counterintuitive like melee witch or phys bow templar, it's going to be hard to come up with an efficient outcome. But you can be an iron will spellcaster marauder, or an EA witch. The game was never about "you can be anything you want!!!" Class choice matters. Starting points in the tree matters. But you're given a lot of flexibility.

>>140762749
Really? Ascendancy has done a lot of good for class diversity, even just looking at what people play, and people are sheeple who follow guides and streamers builds. Ascendancies that enabled more class diverse builds than previously possible:

Ascendant
Champion
Elementalist
Pathfinder
Deadeye
Assassin
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>>140763813
Can be argued that Ascendancy has done both. But it's up in the air which has more weight. For example if you want to be tanky, go Duelist>Champion or maybe Marauder>Juggernaut. Want to go minion/summoner? Witch. So on. Doesn't help that the ascendancies are incredibly imbalanced.
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>>140763813

I think melee witch IS possible. It's just hard.

Like I could see a Wild Strike Elementalist Witch working.
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>>140764162
>incredibly imbalanced.
Over half are straight up useless compared to the rest.
Ascendant exemplifies this so well it's actually funny.
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>>140764578
Im using Inquisitor with my build, Im the only one in existence using it.
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>>140763813
The thing is imo champion is a very generic class, it improves literally any build
The other classes are a bit more specialised which pigeonholes the other classes more
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>>140764162
Well yeah, you can't be a summoner duelist or a tanky melee shadow more than before. The real question is, when you think or a skill gem, or a build archetype, can you choose between more classes than before? The answer is yes.

It usually helps that ascendancies perks are usually generic modifiers that more generic with Scion's watered down counterparts. Think of assassin (generic crit), deadeye (generic projectile attacks), elementalist (elemental conflux), pathfinder (generic stronger flasks), etc.

You can be an occultist/deadeye ED ascendant and benefit from both even though you don't use projectile attacks or build around ES.
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has everyone planned their 2w race build yet? or are we so dead we don't care?
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>>140765689
ded, leagues have no staying power and the game has a ton of flaws even if parts of it are amazing. they need to incentivize sticking out leagues without putting in cock block challenges that aren't fun.
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>>140765873
they literally just need to fix the performance in order to prevent the game from dying.
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>>140764434

+216% Elemental Damage
+235% ES
CI/GR/VP
+120% ES from Shield

There, I tried, Wild Strike Elemental Conflux/Elemental Equilibrium/Mastermind of Discord Witch.
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>>140766405
Elemental conflux is only interesting if you specialize in one element or phys/chaos for the free ignite (+80% damage) and free shock (+50% more damage) imo.

Mastermind of Discord is kinda interesting with Wild Striket though as you would get 20% elemental penetration all the time. Pretty cool but the skill is kinda ass.
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>>140766916

Not sure if Elemental Penetration becomes useless with Elemental Equilibrium though.

If an enemy is already sent in the negatives by EE what will penetration do?
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>>140767154
It would stack, no reason not to.
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>>140767316

Depends.

Is Elemental Penetration actually -20% Resistance in calculations OR Ignore 20% of Resistances for Calculations.
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>>140767154
>If an enemy is already sent in the negatives by EE what will penetration do?
elemental penetration means that the target's resistances are not modified but the damage that actually penetrates acts as if the target's resistance is less than it is by the listed value

it doesn't matter if the target already has negative resistance, penetration acts as if the target's resistance is still lower than that
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>>140768512

Sounds good. I think I will actually try to build that in HC.
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>>140765689
Spreadsheet and tree is ready senpai.
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>>140771750
>spreadsheet
For what purpose
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>>140772365
Quest rewards and when I can buy needed gems, mainly.
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>>140772365
Stylish points.
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>>140772835
>not having that memorized in your head
amateur
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>>140724447
>>140724325
>>140724109
finally, after years of shitposting, reddit is finally waking up
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>>140776720
Shut the fuck up redditor
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>>140776720
>Reddit
>the same principle as posts charan has said over and over again on the forums

Get out reddit fag
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>tfw can't find the motivation to play cause I can't think of a fun build.

Sucks, my main goal while playing this game was keeping my hueguese up to date.
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>>140777712
>>140777957
>do i fit in yet
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>>140778047
I have the opposite problem, too many build ideas
at least I'll get to experiment with one in the 2w race
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>>140778047
Same problem here, I want to be force fed a build because I am sick of falling back on cyclone that I have played for a billion leagues, dual RF totem is slow and boring.

I haven't played a real caster or ranged character yet but they look like they yoyo a lot and are much more prone to 1 shots so... I don't fucking know.
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>>140778998
You know you can play a tanky caster right
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anyone wanna buy my fishermans pole
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>>140779141
>No quantity
Have fun catching no fish
>No rarity
Have fun catching no lame fish

2/10 would chaos for better rod
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>>140779253
vaal soul hook is the most rare hook
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>>140778115
>This damage control after being called out on being a Redditor
__________:^)____________
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What's the point of doing red maps if you consistently get less return from them than just selling the map? Am I supposed to give half a shit about getting to level 100?
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>>140779131
Yeah? I haven't seen one except ES builds which I have never played and sound like a bitch to gear in a 2 week race.
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>>140779581
>Am I supposed to give half a shit about getting to level 100?

yes

git gud
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>>140779343
The rarity if rolling a hook doesn't make up for the lack of rarity and quantity of fish caught

That's kind of like saying this ES chest is worth a lot because it has T1 light radius on it

Other than that it's a pretty decent rod
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>>140779581
Huh, you get map drops from red maps, which are worth more than the map itself. I wouldn't sell red maps (except for extra shitty ones or t15s because they're challenge maps), both from a currency and experience perspective.
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>they play past level 90
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>>140779910
ok 20c its yours
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>>140780162
fuck off gigashitter. you're shit
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>>140780783
Keep wasting your time in poorly optimized, high level maps with shit map pools tetrashitter.
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>>140734092
Thank fuck, my video card can rest at ease now
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>>140734324
I got rainbowstrides and a tabula from him once

>in b4 vendortrash
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>>140780908
ggg is shit but you're even more shit, omnishitter
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>>140779915
In my experience even with 150 quantity 20 packsize maps you tend to lose map tiers. This conservatory just gave me one tier 11, one tier 8 and two trash maps I didn't pick up. It was a 6 mods map with two pack sizes.
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>>140779728
I would say CI builds are typically harder to gear in a relatively short 2-week race because they're reliant on good ilvl bases that aren't really flooding the market in the first week.
Life-based is much easier to gear and you don't need to spend dozens of regrets respeccing to CI and changing gear down the road.

And casters can be tanky. When I died at level 99, my rough defensive stats pre-flasks were as follow:

8k life
15k armour
~500 life regen
58/75 block/spellblock
20/20 enfeeble

See attached picture for stats with flasks up.

I died to a DC. Nothing could really touch me otherwise. Could run any map mods, even vuln+phys reflect was a joke (75% of reflected damage is blocked, and the rest were relatively small hits that were almost entirely negated by armour and life regen).

Keep in mind this was just my dumb, bruteforcing way to achieve tankiness. There are other ways to do so. BV Pathfinder for example is ridiculous if your computer can handle the fps and you can handle flask management. +% flask effect on flasks like Rumi's or a basalt is insane. Defensive curses are stupidly strong if you can run dual blasphemy curse, etc.
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Am I right to believe Projectile Damage > Bow Damage?
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>>140782451
what was your build out of curiosity?
most of the people with open shit to study are streamers and they seem to yoyo hard from watching them just during general play so maybe I have a false sense of expectation there.
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>>140782707
Blood Magic Bladefall, as you can see in the screenshot.
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>>140782516
For what? For normal attacks they stack additively. So they're exactly the same.
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>>140782954

I dunno. The former seems more versatile since Projectile damage also applies to spells.
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>>140783070
Which is why you have to specific for what. A projectile damage affix on a jewel will be more valuable than a bow damage affix, but that doesn't really mean much.
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convince me not to buy d3
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>>140783070
Who gives a shit? You're either using a bow attack or you're not. If you are, projectile and bow damage are the exact same for the sake of calculating dps.
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>>140783224

Well, doesn't projectile damage result in more damage when using poison?
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>>140783234
sounds like the perfect game for a casual like you desu
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>>140783234
Diablo 3 is very good game. Buy it and support blizzard.
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>>140783430
That's a specific case where projectile damage and bow damage are distinct. And that will undoubtedly be changed in 2.3 unless GGG have some really stupid developers. When you're not using the poison support gem for most everything else projectile damage and bow damage are the same stat for bow attacks.

The poison support gem double dips from any archetype of damage increase; trap, mine, totem, aoe, they all do it.
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>>140783234
You will spend hours of your life in a glorified skinner box grinding for virtual items and at the end of it you'll have nothing to show for it but regret and a mispent youth when you could've accomplished something or built something with real lasting value.

Just like this game.
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>>140785283
What games allow you to "accomplish something" or "build something with real lasting value"? If no game does this, why make the distinction? Of course it's all a massive waste of time in the end.
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>>140782516
since projectile damage isn't tied to a damage source, it's always either as good as or better than bow damage
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>decide to level with a skill I don't usually use
>end up building entirely around it
shock nova's pretty fun now
>>140785527
why bound it to games? we're about a century and a half after nietzsche and still people are so concerned with a vacuum of values instead of filling that void
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Another anecdote I have for the graphics problems is I was watching Cooterz playing a mine build and she decided to put Glacial Cascade in it. She thought it looked fun, and then found GC's Gore MTX, bought it, and applied it to the gem. She had the framerate graph on and regular GC didn't even phase it. Gore Glacial Cascade though? That noticeably impacted her framerate and after a few mine detonations to ensure it was definitely the MTX she was like "Uh, no. I'm not gonna do that if it'll hurt my frames."

Let me compress that: The MTX she bought negatively impacted the game's playability. She paid money to have a worse play experience.

>she
What did he mean by this?
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>>140785758
>shock nova's pretty fun now
said every shock nova users until they hit maps and it takes them 50 casts to kill mountain ledge boss.
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>>140785925
>Cooterz
>she
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656715

There will definitely be either a SSF league or a Flashback league. SSF vs. Flashback are pretty close.

Remember to vote for SSF so that proper no-lifers win those demis instead of faggy streamers!
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>>140786132
Jesus Christ, it would be glorious if they pulled a Flashback league. Most fun I ever had in PoE were those crazy anarchy torment beyond onslaught invasion stretches.
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>>140784329
I'm not the guy you are talking to but they need to take the convolution out of double dipping and make shit readable instead of having to figure this shit out the hardway by trial, error, and word of mouth.
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>The first option is to disable parties in the events, making them essentially solo self-found leagues. This would definitely raise the difficulty of the events as players are unable to rely on trade to improve their items. We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past. The game is a lot harder when you have to live entirely off the land.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.

People are such filthy casuals.
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>>140786132
Why not solo self found torment beyond anarchy onslaught invasion warbands tempest talisman rampage?
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>>140786047
I'll see, I'm actually really curious. I'm already Inquisitor so if it came down to it there's always vaal spark but I otherwise want to do some stuff with synergising shock nova being able to hit twice with call of the brotherhood + hypothermia + righteous providence
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Who part of the 7% here? Fuck reddit.
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>>140786639
More challenging? Why? You can make things as challenging as you want by playing fun builds instead of overpowered shit.
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>>140786639

give me one reason other then "fuck reddit" why GGG shouldn't make the temp league harder/more fun by adding more league mods.
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>>140786867
>implying that being contrarian to reddit isn't justification for just about anything on 4chan
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>>140786867
It's unfair to solo players because content gets more challenging for them, but for streamers or people with a guardian bitch, it's only extra loot and experience, which further accuentates the disparity between solo and group play. This is no real issue in a regular challenge league (if you want to play solo, suit yourself), but in a competitive environment that's uncalled for.

Actually I didn't see the SSF option in the second poll, but that's irrelevant because it's not going to win and we're getting Flashback for sure.
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>>140786452
I was one of the first people to ask for solo leagues back in closed beta. The negative feedback was mostly from people that played with a friend, also streamfags that have their supporters sucking their cocks and providing shit to them for free to get an advantage.
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WHAT THE FUCK GUYS

>SSF or flashback or single mod

literal meme options

the last SSF race was garbage. everyone played flameblast and the account sharing faggots kobe+zaun won it of course. the same thing will happen again

flashback is fun but i'm tired of this stale meme

i'm voting for SSF just to fuck over the rmting tryhards and streamers, even if it means i have no chance of winning a rank1 demi
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why are all the scrubtrash garbage peeps picking solo self found?

>b-b-beyond too tuff... p-p-pls don't, i want a challenge thats easy s-so i can b-b-rag about being a hardcore redditor..
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>>140787287
You have no chance of winning a rank 1 demigods unless you're part of a group anyway.
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>>140787287
NUH HUH I DUN WANT PERANDUS THATS BORING

Okay, fine, here's your SSF league

NUH HUH I DONT WANT TO BE SOLO COMPETE WITH PEOPLE WHO PLAY A LOT

Okay, then here's your Flashback league

NUH HUH I ALREADY PLAYED THAT BEFORE I DUN WANNA DO IT AGAIN

There's just no pleasing you faggots.
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>>140787393
>l-let me suck my guildies' dick for gear s-s-so i can brag about how good i am at the game and totally not a redditor amirite guys
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>>140787393
What the fuck are you on about? SSF is way harder than perma-beyond or whatever league they decide on once you factor in how dramatically easier the game gets with trading and partying. Have you ever played SSF in your life?
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>>140787560

I make like 100bucks off of d2jsp while racing and getting my achievement/rewards.

try again scrubshit.
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>>140787005
Hello, reddit.
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>>140787393
You can only rely on yourself playing solo self-found. It doesn't get more hardcore than that.
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>>140787662

>SSF
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first

nice challenge scrubshit.

but i guess it's good though, at least you can always blame being a shitkid on RNG as opposed to being told to git gud after dying to beyond.
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>>140787837
Tabula is an easy item to farm
By maps it's not unlikely to find a 5 link to alc and use
source the havoc ssf race
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>>140787837
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first
Sounds like you're blaming your loss in a SSF on RNG bud :^)
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>>140787837
just getting enough life and resists without buying life+trires items for 1c make the game harder

SSF is much more difficult than people think, especially without any IIQ/IIR bonuses. cadiro himself isn't going to help you much unless you get incredibly and get a goldrim+tabula before cruel
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>>140787837
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first
What a stupid argument. You're not planning for voltaxic in your build in a SSF league (you NEVER plan around build enabling uniques) and even you evel as sparker/LA and one does drop you'd have to get all the gems/gear/regrets needed which might not be available to your build because hello NO TRADING.

Everyone can farm a tabula in aqueducts, moot point.
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Why make a poll when GGG has already announced what they're doing? Do people actually think they're going to change things just because of a poll?
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>Sadpanda went down.
>No new league yet.
My life's over.
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>>140788302
Yes, that's precisely what they officially announced, retard
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>>140788334
You mean you don't have a porn backup?
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>>140788302
you forgot your cat picture
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>>140788521
I used to download, then it just gets bigger and bigger and there's no way I can even go through 1 gb of porn before I blow my load. I stop downloading when I realize I'll never revisit 99% of those images.
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>>140788654
shut the fuck up retard

it says more about you than it does about him when you have a personal grudge against someone you don't even know
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>>140788081
You can farm Residences or Crypts for a 6L. It's way easier with div cards than it used to be to get a 6L now.
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>RMT partially because it triggers the fuck out of NEET no-life poopsockers
how the fuck can you grind this garbage game for hours a day fucking lmao
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>>140788908
>playing poe
>spending money on poe

wew lad
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>>140788908
>not running a bot
I'm triggered by your stupidity.
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>>140788908
>bringing any amount of real life money to a game people play for FUN
Joke's on you, m8. You're barely one step above chinese gold farmers in WoW.
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>reading comments about the meme race
>people complaining about the game being too easy
>look at their accounts
>they're all shitcrows

lmoa out loud 2bhfam
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>>140789795
>implying game is hard
people chain gorges and plats to 100
and it doesn't take long either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlYerpqnRS0
please tell me more about how game is hard
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>>140788756
Sure it does, you salty faggot.
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>>140789945
>16 monsters remain
lel
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>>140790091
Does it matter when you can chain 60 gorges an hour?
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What happens if you put a zana bloodlines/nemesis mod on a map which already has those mods? do you get blues with double bloodlines and rares with double nemesis?
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>>140790258
i'm pretty sure you can get double beyond but not triple. people were doing triple beyond in the last flashback and were leveling way too fast. kobe/zaun went from 96-100 in one day after spending a week saving up maps and currency to spam dozens of triple beyond maps.
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>>140790464
I'm pretty sure that wasn't what I asked you nimrod
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>>140790553
i didn't even read your post
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>>140713372
lol
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>>140791046
I hope you're daijoubu...
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>>140787278
i liked the first SSF race. i think it was a 10-day race back before the awakening was released and they awarded beta keys to the top players. i made it to 89 playing a super shitty flameblast build. i'd enjoy another SSF race but it's looking like flashback is going to win.
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>ripped at 89 again

i just want the 90 challenge baka
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>>140793004
How'd you die? (what map/mods etc) I'm at 81 and been real slow lately.
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>>140793004
You can get it in the 2w race
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>>140790464
What overpowered bullshit build must they have had that they didn't care how many abaxoths they summoned at the same time?
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just voted for bloodlines lads
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>>140793172
enfeeble + monsterlife to corrupting blood in bazaar because my staunch flasks had ran out.

I'll try it again in the new 2 week
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>>140793313
Last Flashback league was pre-2.0. I don't know what builds they used, but Flameblast was still disgustingly OP back then, before ignite and ele prolif nerfs. You could cast a not even fully stacked flameblast, and watch any Beyond unique that would spawn from bodies burn to half hp. One single cast. Abaxoth is fairly rare spawn, so you could simply skip him in the event he spawned.
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>>140793682
abaxoth only spawns from void devos iirc

i spawned him once in buttlines and he flickerstriked me for 9k dmg
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>Flashback is gonna win
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>>140793807
don't worry, you can coast to an easy demi rolling as a guardian since supports should be all the rage with the extra difficulty of flashback, you dumb frogposter
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>ggg pulls the old trick they did not so long ago with lowest supporter pack contents
>lebbitors cream their pants because muh developers listening to feedback
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>>140794496
they're honestly so fucking retarded. GGG planned this from the beginning, just like they always have.

just like when they weren't going to have a HC 1mo torment/bloodlines 1mo race but chris added a HC version last minute

there are many other examples of this that i can't remember off the top of my head
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>>140794496
that would require some psychology and a prediction there would be a reddit outcry
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>omg ggg best company ever xddd
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>opened all the doors in shrine like a madman
>got core and colosseum
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>>140795425
you have 10 seconds to name 3 better game companies

keep in mind your opinion is forever voided if said game companies developed a moba or any other babby game
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>>140795526
digital extremes
hi-rez
daybreak
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>>140795682
who?
who?
who?
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>>140795797
>grinding gear games
who?
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>>140795845
the who? who developed the game you've been no lifing for the past 5 years, retard
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>>140795950
ggg is a literal who compared to these companies, you drooling retard
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>>140796005
>name recognition equals quality
by that logic, blizzard is the best game company in the world

you can't provide big names because they've produced shit

and you can't provide lesser known names that actually produced something worth remembering

you fucking loser.
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>>140796005
not really

planetside 2, warframe and smite are about as equally as popular as poe is and they're all f2p games that aren't p2w and have been around for about as long as GGG has

obviously i don't care enough to spend hours doing research into it but that's the closest comparison i could make within 10 seconds
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>>140796206
come on nigga, you can't say with a straight face that companies which made unreal, bioshock or everquest are less known than ggg
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>>140796664
im sure all those games were f2p and those companies regularly interacted with the community for the ongoing development of the game
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>>140724325
>Shitty text heavy character screen
opinion disregarded
>>
D
>>
E
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>>140724325
>particularly Smite since it's another one game one company deal
this guy is talking out of his ass big time
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A
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>>140796731
that has no impact on whether the company is well known or not
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>>140796664
comparing their flagship games they are about the same. they all make millions of dollars. guess which companies put that money back into the game and strive to perfect it as much as possible? (hint: it's not GGG)
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>>140796841
if the game is more known than the company who developed it, it means they were a one trick pony that lucked out one time then produced shit afterwards

which makes you sucking their cock all the more hilarious

actiblizzard is the greatest game company ever because they made d2 and brood war according to your backward, mentally challenged logic

ggg only made one game, so you can only judge them on its merits, and since you've been playing it for 5 years, they must be doing something right, you oblivious tool
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>>140797071
>i don't know the company
>this means nobody knows the company
nice logic faggot
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>>140797263
everyone knows blizzard, does that mean blizzard is a good game company because they made good games a decade ago?
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lamo @ these gay nerds arguing
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>>140797351
>blizzard blizzard blizzard blizzard blizzard blizzard blizzard
show me where diablo 3 touched you
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>people stressing out over a shit 2 week league with even shittier rewards you aren't going to win as you only have a tiny at best chance

>most of the rewards can be bought out of the store for a cost of a coffee
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>>140797396
nice dodge you fucking retard
I rest my case
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>>140795682
>Hirez
>Good
>DE
>Good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm fucking dying. Fuck off.
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>>140797410
the only way to win at poe is by not paying
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>>140788161
mf/iiq is never worth gearing for.
clear speed > all.
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>>140797410
>Why should I play to earn pixels when I could buy pixels for the price of a coffee
Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound? Why are you even here? Why do you even play games?
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>>140797491
good luck getting high clearspeed in a SSF race
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>>140797517
2 week races aren't fun and the main league is dead, deal with it. It's not my fault you can't handle the fact that we are in a DEAD GAME DEAD LEAGUE DEAD THREAD purgatory for the next month.

Here's to hoping the next perm is good and not a flop.
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>>140797565
>2 week races aren't fun
according to you
>It's not my fault you can't handle the fact that we are in a DEAD GAME DEAD LEAGUE DEAD THREAD purgatory for the next month.
i don't actually give a shit, stop changing the subject
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>>140786132
topkek GGG.
At least they're pretending to listen and it's not a fucking reddit poll, but they fucked up proper with the announcement of more Perandus.
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>>140797410
I just wanted Talisman or SSF. And SSF is going to lose.

And there's no Talisman in the Flashback.
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>>140797565
>Here's to hoping the next perm is good and not a flop.

inb4 more blanketed casual poopcrap with welfare epicz and more p2w gimmicks
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>tfw no destitute league with 80% less IR and IQ


we've seen what a shitload of uniques do to the economy

what about next to no items dropping?

maps would be impossible to maintain.
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>>140798121
They already did that for years. It was called "Closed Beta" league.
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>>140798121
well that sounds quite retarded desu, and punishes solo players even more
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>>140797684
Best thing would be SSF Flashback frankly, but I guess that's 2 h4rdc0r3 for most players.
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>>140798445
Build restrictive events with over-the-top difficulty aren't terribly interesting, otherwise SSF BLAMT Flashback would be the best event ever.
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Can you help me out here?

>Anarchy

>Onslaught
godda go fasd

>Domination

>Nemesis

>Invasion

>Rampage
perma rampage

>Beyond
Abaxoth

>Torment
spoopy ghosts

>Bloodlines
corrupting blood

>Warbands
mini-exile packs

>Tempest
AoE shit on the ground

>Talisman
rng-gated amulet collecting

>Ambush
boxes of 3 second freeze
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>>140798710
anarchy is like a small chance of a rogue exile spawning per instance

domination is guaranteed shrine per instance

nemesis, well all rares are nemesis

invasion is one invasion boss per instance, if you don't know what those are, you're most likely going to get anal raped sooner or later
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>>140798709
The most fun I've probably ever had in PoE aside from CB global was in that retarded Inferno race where you barely made level 12 or something.
I guess it's a matter of taste, but I think that such a league is the perfect opportunity to go all out.
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>cancerlines

reminder we were stuck with this league for almost a year because of lockstep
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>>140798793
Pretty sure Anarchy as a mod now is one exile per instance.
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>>140798793
Thanks.
Invasion or Beyond seem to be the most appealing then; half of those modes are in the core game anyways.
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>>140799009
RIP pre-nerf burrowed Frozen Sky crabs one-shotting 5k life characters with 75% res and Faggot Link devourers
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>>140799101
every time i came across a plink pack i wanted to die
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>>140799069
Invasion is not in the core game (not a map mod), some Invasion bosses were added to story areas, but you're not even getting to meet half of them except maybe Spinesnap in the slum sewers. Real invasion bosses pack a punch and even Spinesnap in t10+ maps will probably be a nasty surprised for people with -60 chaos res.
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>>140799234
pre-nerf invasion was fucking dumb. i got one shot by haziri at lvl94 from two screens away.
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>>140799009
what's so special about beyond?
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>>140799574
shitcrows love their loot
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>>140799574
>muh hardcore game
Probably.

It's shit though. Mobs spawn way too fucking much, especially Bosses. It gets old real fucking quick. And now the mobs don't even drop maps anymore.
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>>140799796
also they have way too much hp, at least in maps compared to the area lvl.
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>>140797549

>SSF

we're doing flashback you dumpster kid, enjoy getting raped by beyond like the casual that you are.
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In a flashback situation, would it be better to just go spark totems than self cast spark?
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>>140797549
>he doesn't know about the ssf race to 100
Clear speed is not an issue
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>>140799837
>anyone getting raped in chaos vaal spark: part 2

Free exp: the league mod.
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>>140799834
>It's a Na'em spawns next to a diamond shrine in a vuln map episode
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>912(NINE HUNDRED AND TWELVE) demis are being handed out
>only 38 alt art demis

i don't think i can settle for being one of the 912 plebs that won a welfare demi

i guess i'm going for rank1
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>>140800170
Na'em is easy until you stop playing armour melee builds

Then holy shit is he scary
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Can someone help me with a LL Deadeye Wander build? Never played anything in the right side of the tree and have no idea how to path there.
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how does juggernaut unbreakable(double armor from chest) interact with a eva/armor hybrid chests(coil) and IR? does IR convert the evasion to armor before unbreakable doubles it?
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>>140800357
I remember being crit (?) for like 6k by a single spear in a Palace map (then t11) in the previous flashback event. He's easier if you're melee and just use a stibnite now though.
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>>140800453
stibnite doesn't stop his spells from hitting
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>>140800413
>SC
just do whatever lmao
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>>140800552
He spams spears and leap slams if he doesn't have an immediate target in melee range. That's why I say he's easier if you're melee, because then you only have to deal with a moderate damage Cleave, and you can just blind him. Running away from him is actually what gets people killed. Not everyone can facetank his cleave or run a stibnite though.
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>>140800340
912? It's 950.
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>>140800724
>alt art demis for rank1 players of each class
>19 classes
>two leagues
>38 alt demis
>950 - 38 = 912
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>>140800447
Not positive, but based on wording alone, unbreakable would double the armour value and then all relevant modifiers apply. So instead of having a X armour Y eva chest, you know have a 2X armour and Y eva chest and IR and modifiers apply then. Again, just what I infer from wording, didn't test in game.
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>>140800787
Ah I see, you meant regular demis, not altogether.
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>>140800861
i am very upset about this
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In the event of a Flashback league, it'd probably be wiser to just stick to a strong class+build even if it's popular than gimping yourself with some hipster Slayer build for an easier demi, what do you guys think?
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>>140801189
i'm going berserker :^)))))))))))))))))
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>>140801189
are you trying to have fun or are you trying to win a demi?
in the latter case, roll slayer.
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>>140801189
It's been confirmed that you can hold off on picking an Ascendancy until the end of the race in order to allow yourself to be eligible for more Demis. Then it's just a matter of playing the least popular class.

That may be the best bet, assuming not taking an Ascendancy doesn't gimp you too much.
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>>140801382
but why would you hold out on your ascendancy for 16 days
sounds stupid
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>>140801419
because you can still faceroll shit without an ascendency
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>>140801419
... I did explain that in the post.
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>>140800621
lockstep made the fights so much easier as ranged though

you can actually manually dodge those spears, it's amazing
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>>140801439


if you can actually gain a demigod without needing an ascendancy boost, then you didn't fucking need to gimp yourself in the first place.


and youll never rank 1 without the power boost.

The fuckin stupidity of some people.
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>>140801496
you can manually dodge most shit in this game, doesn't mean people don't get one shot

only takes 1 crit
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>>140801523
>Ascendant
>Gladiator
>Champion
no way in hell you're getting rank 1 in any of those classes, they make up like 60% of all builds.
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>>140801523
Also you might want to stop calling other people stupid because they don't agree with your opinion.
Makes you look stupid.
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>>140801708
first day on the internet?
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>>140801523
It was a direct response to someone asking what the best strategy was for getting a demi.

I doubt Ascendancy makes a bigger difference than party-grinding or no-lifeing or broken builds or a shitload of other factors, so it really does shit-all for your progression.
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>>140801808
well there's zero reason to skip your ascendancy points if you start scion since you're competing with every other scion from the start
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>>140801750
no you giganigger, there's just no use to being mean when you are just a faggot that holds his opinion to too high of a standard.
aka reddit.
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>>140733907

r/Charan when?
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going templar will give you the best chance of a demi. it's the least popular "race"

going duelist would mathematically give you the best chances, but only if you go slayer.
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>>140802007
>templar is a race
stopped reading there
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>>140802007
thanks reddit for fucking it up for all of us
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>>140802007
there's nothing "mathematical" about this, less popular classes will be more played in this race and shit builds will be weeded out by onslaught beyond/invasion. i mean you could go hierophant if you want, but what could would that be when your build hits a wall on beyondfested maps
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>don't ascend
>get 1st 100
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>>140802329
there is literally nothing wrong with hierophant
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>>140802648
shit ascendancy with low dps ceiling
>muh pseudo 5ls
it's shit
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>>140802007
>going duelist would mathematically give you the best chances, but only if you go slayer

That just shows that the top 25 slayers aren't very high on the ladder, not that it's least popular on the ladder

1037 templar
1306 ranger
1808 marauder
1994 witch
2003 scion
2389 shadow
4205 duelist

Is the class breakdown from the ladder when this was posted

Also, there are a few unascended chars on the ladder atm

1 duelist
8 scion
3 Witch
9 Marauder
5 Templar
4 Ranger
0 Shadow

which is kind of cool
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>>140802686
i literally played it to lvl94 in leetcore and had no problem clearing red maps with a 4l arc in a geofris crest
>>
somebody better sell me some fuckin chisels real soon
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>>140802775
lol
would take you 10 years to clear a monster life enfeeble ee lightning res map
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>>140803012
>lol this build sucks on the literal worst scenario for your build that exists lol
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>>140803012
nope. i had like 150% penetration from double curse + support gem + illuminated devotion
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>>140803156
or you could go inquisitor, elementalist, assassin and achieve a better result with defensive dual curse
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>>140802329


you didn't need ascendancies to hit 100 in the past flashback league einstein.
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>>140803552
it was also 1 month as opposed to 16 days and beyond made map sustaining a complete joke because they still dropped maps back then

i was swimming in 77s and 78s without a single effort just from regular beyond

get your facts straight, chump
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rate my're RF build

poeurl.com/CCT

use ice nova coh to curse and to proc EE and EO
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>>140803881
>RF
don't. It's absolute garbage.
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>>140803881
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh RF?
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>>140803881
>272% life
>I pick life nodes xDDDD
hardcucks, everyone
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>>140804162
this is bait
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>>140802007
>>140802747
so basically, don't pick the "least picked" classes as everyone will pick those
>>
Arc, ED, or something else for racing on softcore, I am on 5.5mg clonazapam and black out and I will die on HC at least for the next few months
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>>140803881
Why aren't you getting Ramako, Sun's Light? Also your pathing out of the maruader start is a bit inefficient, I feel

And you've used too many points

I'd prefer something like this
http://poeurl.com/CC0
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>>140804162
my shitstorm build has almost 350% life

i probably won't go RF anyway because it can't do -max or half regen
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Fun fact I discovered while theorycrafting my build for the 2-week race:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Efficient_Training can provide up to ~100 str which is 50 flat life or 150 life in a 200% life build and 20% spd with Iron Will.

For a regular rare 7% life jewel to be better, I'd need more than 150/0.07 = 2142 base life and two good damage rolls which could cost something like 20c. Efficient Training is worth 1c, tops.
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>>140804713
have fun getting off those meds
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>>140805927
>because it can't do -max or half regen
more importantly, it can't clear for shit.
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>>140806028
>poe is path of life

No shit. Next you're gonna tell us how it's a good idea to make sure you can craft strength on the dex/int gear you are looking to buy.
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>>140807042
Well it might seem obvious to you, but it's not obvious to everyone a 7% jewel is not necessarily the best option to get the most life for every build.
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>>140803669

beyond maps didn't drop maps anymore during that 1 month flashback you dumpster trash.

don't talk about leagues you never played or ranked.
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>he plans out his builds
>he doesn't play reactively and wing it based on the gear he finds
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>>140808636
>he can't level to 100 butt naked wielding nothing but a slim jim
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>voting ssf
>voting beyond
HURR LETS HAVE A SOLO LEAGUE IN THIS MULTIPLAYER GAME, AS THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER DEGREE OF FUN, AND SO I CAN WATCH MY FAVORITE BROWN STREAMER WIN AGAIN (THIS TIME FOR REAL)

I hope they use the voting data to instantly disregard any further opinions these people have of the game.
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>>140808835
i voted for talisman because ggg jews didn't include it in the mod rotation
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>>140808835
>d2 clone
>multiplayer game
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>>140807930
maybe he was talking about the f irst flashback
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>flashback is winning by a huge margin

welp. time for a two week streamer league
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>>140808987
Hey I voted Talisman too. Wanna fuck?
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>>140809480
only if you're a cute grill
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>>140809306
what the fuck would you prefer?
>>
>>140810207
ssf
>>
so they just had talisman league? obviously they aren't going to do it again. it's a shame i didn't get to play it. so many neat items. were people actually running end game viable unarmed builds?
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>>140809306
>ssf
>perandus
ayyy
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>>140810286
facebreaker has always been viable, it's just that nowadays the best melee skill is earthquake and facebreaker can't use earthquake, but people have gotten to 100 before with facebreaker, it was and still is pretty strong just not good as everything else right now
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normie classes:
>champion
>trickster
>ascendant

genius classes:
>occultist
>hierophant
>chieftain
>gladiator
>pathfinder
>elementalist

retard classes:
>sabateur
>assassin
>raider
>deadeye
>slayer
>berserker
>juggernaut
>guardian
>inquisitor
>necromancer
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>>140810725

more like:
normie classes:
>champion
>trickster
>ascendant

genius classes:
>occultist
>gladiator
>pathfinder
>elementalist
>saboteur
>assassin
>inquisitor
>necromancer
>deadeye

retard classes:
>chieftain
>hierophant
>raider
>slayer
>berserker
>juggernaut
>guardian
>>
>53% flask effect
>alchemist's basalt (+25% flask effect)
>20*1.78 = 36% physical mitigation from a single flask as pathfinder
Why is this allowed?
>>
>>140810725
>>140811062
you mean

normie classes:
>champion
>trickster
>ascendant

retard classes:
>sabateur
>assassin
>raider
>deadeye
>slayer
>berserker
>juggernaut
>guardian
>inquisitor
>necromancer
>occultist
>hierophant
>chieftain
>gladiator
>pathfinder
>elementalist
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>>140811127
pathfinder is really strong but shiters just can't figure it out
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ssf retards are the worst
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>>140811410
mad u cant rmt
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>>140810725
uh, trickster was pretty much only played because of coc discharge, which you won't be seeing much in a 2-week race since the power/viability drops significantly without a voll's devotion.
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invite ctt please
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I'd Desecrate Catarina, if you know what I mean.
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>>140812132
>coc discharge
>not a normie build

it's literally *THE* normie build, you fucking normie
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>>140813060
but it won't be played by anyone making it a hip build
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>>140813134
i'd bet money the 1st 100 will be coc discharge
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>>140812132
>voll's devotion
>when conviction of power exists
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>>140812976
>tfw will never have consensual sexual intercourse in the missionary position on consecrated ground with catarina
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>marauder can use ice crash

good lore
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>>140813261
Cum to me exile...
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>assassin
>shockwave totems
>get nothing but life and power charge nodes + ancestral bond
>still only 200% life

nice game poetards
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WHEN'S THE NEW LEAGUE?
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>>140816136
4 days
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>tfw no gf
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>>140818125
>tfw no zana gf whose treacherous landscapes you could explore
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PoE again :D

looking forward to having fun!
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>>140819261
Fuck off weeb.
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>>140819261
kill urself
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i'm going to play searing bond
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>bladeback guardian
Haha, time to use reflect proof builds only because of invasion days
>>
>There are currently more items verified in stash tabs that have not been updated in the last two weeks (6,018,661) than items in stash tabs that have been updated in the last two weeks (5,218,242).
>Out of 318,845 stash tabs with verified items, 192,753 (60%!!) have not been updated in the last two weeks but are still public.
D E A D
E
A
D

league
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>>140823037
>easy
>boring
>shit fps
>server crashes
>freemium

who's surprised?
>>
Gonna play some shitty middle of the pack class for the race. Inquisitor or Chieftain?
>>
>getting to 200% life as a Ranger

Fuck. Why is it so fucking hard.

>hurr durr lets give the class which is most likely to get one shot no life or damage mitigation near her tree.

Is Iron Reflex the only way to deal? I can get to 150ish life on a Rangef build but i dont feel safe on HC.
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>>140809306
>Go to sleep with SSF trailing rotation by ~5%
>Wake up to see SSF behind by ~14%
Fucking chink RMTers.
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>>140824425
http://poeurl.com/CDy

that's at least 209% life

swap to whatever damage nodes you need, and then the rest of the tree is damage
>>
>poeurl.com/CDz

Rate my shit Elementalist non-crit Arc build. Links will be Arc-Hypothermia-Cont Destruction-Innervate/Faster Casting/Spell Echo-Lightning Pen. Can't decide on the last 2 Ascendancy points.
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>>140825046
Why use innervate over a silver flask?
>>
Let me be totally and completely honest about my Path of Exile skills.

I love this game. I play a lot, not like 10+ hours a day, but I like to think it's up there. I only play Hardcore, I've only traded for an item once, and I have no other friends who play PoE.

I feel like I'm missing out on half of the game because I die. A lot. I die so often that I've never gotten to the map section of the game. Ever.

But I love the rerolling process, and making new characters is exciting to me. Sure I could play standard, get out of hardcore, but I really enjoy the high-stakes thrill of permanent death.

I know that half of the Perandus league challenges - the ones to do with mapping - will never be complete on my account. It's frustrating, but I accept it. I simply don't play the game in such a way that allows me to progress to that point. I feel like I enjoy making new characters more than I desire to reach endgame. I love new excuses to make a new character. I have 6 in Perandus HC all between level 30-60, just because I found an item for a different build I wanted to try out, or I found a quality gem, or because someone looked at me funny.

I think I'm the perfect candidate for race seasons, and events, and new leagues. I jumped on the Garena server as soon as I saw that 10 day race they were running. Why? Because hell yeah... I could make a new character! (I made a few already due to those nasty Volatile mods. They hit hard at level 2 and my poor Templars kept getting one-shot!)

My point? I don't know if I have one. I suppose part of me is really thankful that Chris Wilson and his team of rascals has made such a fun and challenging game. Not since Diablo 2 have I enjoyed playing for so long, despite not getting to the end game content. Even though I haven't made it that far, I love the game and keep trying (though only half-assed really) to get there.
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>>140825046
You have no life regen, why are you going ZO?
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>>140825546
probably stone golem
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>>140825503
Based reddit crossposter
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>>140825229
Haven't thought of that.
>>140825546
Uh, that's accidental, I don't remember clicking on that.
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>thinking about running infernal blow
>remember EQ has 60% MORE damage
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>>140827872
um hello??? crit IB with AoF and EO, noob lmao
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>>140827872

Is Infernal Blow even worth it now since the nerf?
>>
poeurl.com/CDJ

rate my crit dagger IB AoF EO build poeg
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>>140829572
>crit dagger
>mace nodes
Is there something I don't know?
>>
What chance orbs are supposed to be for: Making it easier to get the unique you need for your build.

What chance orbs are currently for: Used on gold rings and sorc boots for profit.

How would you fix it /poeg/?
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>>140830650

Nerf skyforth and create a chance orb recipe that gives you The Gambler divination card. If you want a unique for your build that much, get it from cards.
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>>140831127
But there are so many cards, you'll never get the card you want from The Gambler.
>>
If you play the 2 weeks race, aren't you gonna be burn out for the new league?
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>>140831479
You could though, and at least then you're not throwing currency away by not chancing the best items.

Recipe should be 1 full divination card stack (any full stack is fine) + 1 chance orb = the gambler.
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what memebuild do i play in the 2week lads
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post flashback (fun) builds
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How's this for my trap Essence drain build?? (intend to get a cloak of defiance)

poeurl.com/CDL
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>>140832523
not a bad idea, finally a sink for all these carrion shitcrows and scholars
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How does that look for a Pathfinder Ranger?

It seems to be underwhelmind in life (150) and damage (220%).

Just hoping the poison can somehow make up for the damage. Should I just take off these 3 Poison nodes for more pure damage?
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>>140833369
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>>140833369
>actually picking nodes from the evasion wheel
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAQAGA4cEsQV9BbUGcAqbDHMM8g2NDdEPqw_EEJIRlhXtFfYWqha_G60i6iM2JIsk_SoLLL8s4S1VLggyMjY9O3w90T7PRwZOn1BCUUdR2VMQUzVUvVT-VYVW9VxAXfJei2J5Y0NqjG1scFJwVnWedf12gnjren97FH3jf8aCU4O9hG-Hy4nTjDaNv46Kj_qQG5MnlLiVZpaLl9CaE6KjotmjiqR4pcumf6ebrGawkrDYsbO0xbTRtUi4yrk-vG-95sHFwdXDOsgMyBTPFc_p0NDTftRC1bnYdtmG227b1Nvn3vji1eaI5wrnVOjW6f7sGO1B7g7vevLh9W_5Y_zF_5P_3g==

hello im new rate my build guys i play duel knifes with crit :D
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>>140834342
you should pick acrobatics when going ci
otherwise it's a nice build
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Who here voted invasion
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>>140833369
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>>140835084
me
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>SSF getting BTFO
lol
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>>140835827
I've played fully SSF since nemesis and I fucking hate the whiny children who keep demanding a separate league for it
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>>140834712
stop troll lol
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>>140836706
he's gonna get oneshot by every monster so why not get oneshot 30% less times?
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>>140821324
Is there something special about its reflect? iirc it's no more dangerous than a regular rare reflect.
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>>140832747
This is a joke, right? ED can't be linked to trap. Why do people even skip READING a skill description in the wiki before trying to build around it?
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>>140838329
>wiki
that shit should be in the fucking gem.
by design only channel skills cannot be trapped
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>>140838329
btw, only trust wiki if it's sourced from dev posts etc., the wiki is terrible because retards who don't know the game keep modifying it

it isn't an "official wiki" in any meaningful sense despite the stupid badge in the upper left corner
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When do you guys predict the next race after this one will be? I can't participate in this one because finals

I mean I can but what's the point if I can't get to top 25 of even some obscure hipster ascendancy
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>>140838567
Regardless, there'd be no point in using traps with ED in the first place considering
- it's unreflectable damage
- the regen buff you get from it is huge
- using traps is clunky
- you already have 5 more damage modifiers from supports
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>>140838949
It was just for style points. wanted to do cluster with gmp for loads of purple projectiles.

self-cast is boring
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>>140838890
>When do you guys predict the next race after this one will be?
probably a filler race in early june after perandus ends
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>>140824425
>babby's first realization starting position in the tree matters and areas are themed by attribute
omg why is it harder to get life and armour as a witch or ranger than as a marauder???
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>>140824425
You w0t m8, my ranger in PHC had 240% life on tree and roughly 260% when factoring in jewels.
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>>140809306
Why do people think streamers matter, you can get top 10 playing solo yet I doubt more then 1 or 2 people here ever get top 10.
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>>140839795
it's just delusional and mediocre players who hide behind an excuse when they don't get a demi
>they were given handouts because they're streamers!
>they played more than me! stupid no lifers!
>they probably RMT'd!
>>
Is there anywhere where Leap of Faith is actually useful? Most Jewel spots are placed in awkward locations that make the thing save at best 1 node. Is its only use grabbing notables for 1 node?
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>>140841114
Intuitive Leap* and it doesn't look too bad in the witch jewel socket if you're pathing from above (can grab alchemist and blast radius)
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>you meet someone who calls himself a "PoE expert" on some other games and he tells you about his "triple triggering EE" build with 85% life
>people in that other game refer to him for advice on mechanics; he is considered to be the "theorycraft guy"

kill me
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>>140842654
reddit online or what
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>>140842654
mathil?
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>>140843019
tree of savior
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>>140843197
>playing games for children
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>>140841114
Useful for reaching the scion aoe nodes.
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>>140843648
cute korean mmos are good places to find underage girls tbqh
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>>140844694
you mean neckbeards pretending to be underage girls for in-game benefits
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i wish the stupid race would start already
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>>140845068
what difference does it make in the end?
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>>140845653
i guess none assuming you're a flaming faggot who likes talking dirty with fat, sweaty men
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>>140846115
it's called ERP, you stupid, cute little thing :3c
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>The very sand shivers with malice. There is a power here that welcomes me.
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I wanna make a build off of those chaos damage gemini claws you get from the rhoa boss divination card. Just one of those with attack speed, and maybe crit.

What would be a good build to use with it?
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reddit spy bringing you the freshest class breakdown from perandus leagues so you can plan you're'r race builds accordingly

Perandus
Ascendancy Count Percent
Ascendant 3459 23.06
Champion 1584 10.56
Trickster 1547 10.31
Deadeye 1057 7.05
Saboteur 965 6.43
Occultist 963 6.42
Assassin 837 5.58
Inquisitor 582 3.88
Raider 551 3.67
Gladiator 533 3.55
Berserker 497 3.31
Chieftain 483 3.22
Pathfinder 412 2.75
Necromancer 399 2.66
Elementalist 370 2.47
Juggernaut 327 2.18
Guardian 222 1.48
Slayer 111 0.74
Hierophant 98 0.65
Perandus Hardcore
Ascendancy Count Percent
Champion 3344 22.29
Ascendant 2055 13.70
Trickster 931 6.21
Gladiator 874 5.83
Chieftain 862 5.75
Saboteur 833 5.55
Occultist 785 5.23
Necromancer 709 4.73
Juggernaut 658 4.39
Deadeye 640 4.27
Assassin 640 4.27
Elementalist 518 3.45
Inquisitor 473 3.15
Raider 428 2.85
Guardian 343 2.29
Berserker 293 1.95
Pathfinder 246 1.64
Hierophant 225 1.50
Slayer 113 0.75

reddit spy out
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>>140847567
none of this matters, play what you want (except maybe ascendant as it'll be 3 times harder), poopsock for 2 weeks, don't die and you get a demi
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>>140847567
>Slayer

What kind of meme melee splash build can I make off of this that isn't vomit-inducing like flicker strike? Static Strike maybe?
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>>140848296
the trick is using impact for the sweet 20% aoe and not for the worse-than-gem-version splash
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>>140848296
Static strike is not a single-target skill (it has an AoE tag), so you would only benefit from the increased AoE. Kinda weak for 4 ascendancy points, don't you think?
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>>140848583
infernal blow has an aoe tag and it works with melee splash and so does static strike because both these skills are targeted melee, get your facts straight
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>craft build
>ends up fapping to JAV instead
Dumb game.
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>>140848296
Viper Strike + Edge of Madness + Dirty Techniques + Bloodletting

Poison/Bleed scaling with Blasphemy Vulnerability (and you get inc radius on it)

Add Lion's Roar for the knockback effect (+50% more bleed damage if the target is moving)
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>>140849483
>tfw Anri retired
why even live desu
>>
>>140849542
edge of madness has like 200 dps
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>>140850506
he asked for meme builds, not end game viable builds
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>>140848583
Static strike is a single target melee skill.
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>>140851305
that's not viable outside of normal, let alone endgame
Edge of Madness is only good at high level if you use it as a staff double dipping on the ele and chaos damage increases, but you can't since all the conversion memes are weapons
>>
0-4 fap
5-9 nap
dubs pratice racing
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>>140848296
Doomsower Infernal Blow
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???????
i put this on sale as a joke wtf
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>>140851761
I did this as my first real ascendancy build, it's nice
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>>140852502
So the AoE stacks with the node but not with the gem right?
>>
how is one even supposed to be able to do the chaos recipe when amulets never drop?
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>>140852795
what do you mean
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>>140853562
They drop like candy in Lab.

>but doing Lab ever
well meme'd
>>
>tfw drop a weapon that doubles my DPS

Sweet.

Dat 1.2k DPS in Act 3 normal is funny.
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>>140853752
Oh, I remembered it incorrectly.

>The Socketed Red Gems get 10% Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage modifier only applies to the actual active gem you are using, and the effect doesn't stack with support gems.

I thought the inability to stack applies to
>Socketed Melee Gems have 15% increased Area of Effect Radius
as well, but apparently not? So Inferno Blow would have 15%+39% (increased Area of Effect)+ 15% from Impact?
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>>140853952
Pick it back up.
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>>140854071
15 from sword
20 from impact+ node before it
10 from quality IB
15 from templar area nodes

Would you even need inc aoe?
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>>140854071
>So Inferno Blow would have 15%+39% (increased Area of Effect)+ 15% from Impact?
yes, and if you add quality to IB, that's added as well
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>tfw so pained from Izaro killing my last character that I'm 2scared to Merc Lab with my current character
81 and no Merc Ascendancy real smart right.
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>>140854450
For style.
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>>140854450
>Would you even need inc aoe?
yeah I didn't use inc. AoE in the links because the area was already big enough, I just added more damage instead
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>>140854292
jej
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>>140854696
So IB+Multistrike+MPD+Fortify+Added Fire+WED?

with fake splash gem and fake inc aoe gem

It seems like it's an 8 link
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>>140714249
playing ed without 100% pierce is like playing traps without clever construction. like repeatedly hitting yourself in the groin.
>>
is the cooldown node from berserker enough to play self cast discharge?
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>>140854932
I did FA+MPD+WED+ele focus in a 5 link

it probably wasn't "optimal" but good enough for clearing red maps as a first build of the league, I wouldn't use multistrike in there myself though (a lot of the time the additional swings are wasted to a trash pack that already exploded from the first hit, and in more dangerous situations you're stuck in place for the duration)
>>
How much crit do I need in my tree for a decent crit build? No daggers.
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>>140856704
what weapon or spell are you using?
normally people used to get at least 300~400% crit from tree but nowadays it might be easier with inc crit strikes gem, diamond flask and potentially having assassin
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Should I grind for it?

Also my game is in Portuguese cause I'm learning it. Before you guys huehue me
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>>140855951
Actually it works just fine; you waste a lot of time on allies cant die packs, you're right on that, but it doesn't help a lot with clearing since your pierced ED won't be spread by contagion.
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>>140857145
You can get a corrupted one for 1c, so if you don't play self-found it's probably a waste of time.
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>>140857145
>nomic storm
retard
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>>140855951
Please convince me that the benefits of 100% pierce are worth the 10+ nodes it takes to get to the pierce passives when contagion decimates entire groups anyway. Ascendants need not apply.
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>>140857704

Kinda am, not planned but I just never trade.
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>>140857890
Another thing is that you only need it on lowlife or CI builds, so it's kind of pointless anyways. Do what you like though.
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>>140857145
me dê algum dinheiro que você prostituta huehue
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>>140857824
it's not
just aim for the totem/rare
or use conversion trap
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>>140852227
>selling things for less than 2c
just my 2c
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>>140857824
It doesn't take 10 nodes to get to the pierce passives as templar ED, cause you end up in the shadow tree unless you're playing an iron will RF ED char
>>
With a sigh, you turn away
With a deepening heart,
No more words to say
You will find that the world has changed forever.

And the trees are now
Turning from green to gold
And the sun is now fading
I wish I could hold you closer
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>>140861765
pretty gay desu
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>>140862078
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>>140862379
I'm sorry..
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>>140861628
Six total points. Slight exaggeration.
>>
Does the Pierce gem also acts as a Crit gem with the Deadeye skill that makes Piece Chance count as Crit Chance?

Wondering if it affects the gem as well. If so that's sweet.
>>
>>140865313
For sure it does. Similar to Drillneck.
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>>140865313
yes

if you put in pierce gem and take the pierce nodes on tree you get 100% increased crit
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>>140866194

Makes me wonder. Would a Deadeye spellcaster with Drillneck and that node be any decent? Get all the projectile nodes, the projectile piercing, you get a huge amount of crit and damage. Also Point Blank.
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>>140866957
>drillneck

why? just get the nodes and use wands or daggers
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>>140867290

"Projectile Damage increased by Arrow Pierce Chance"

It's Free 100% Damage.

Or even 200% If the Deadeye skill actually is +100% pierce at close range.
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>>140867454
>it's free x
Here we go again.
>>
Hey guys is this a hardcore viable build? It only has 743 strength and 287% max life, but I can use the five jewel nodes to get more. Please respond.
poeurl.com/CEk
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>>140867454
pierce over 100% isn't taken into account for drillneck
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>>140867454
One dagger/wand can be comparable in damage to a drillneck

Two shit all over drillneck

Drillneck means you have to use a bow

Take the gem and the nodes, tis better
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>>140867508
Dumb as shit. Even if you were to properly utilise it.
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>>140867508
I'm sorry, anon, but incinerate was nerfed.
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>>140868546
taming + emberwake +elementalist makes it great again
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>>140867865
>isn't taken into account
Mechanically you can't pierce more that 100%
Just like your chance to hit or chance to crit or chance to anything in this game can't be over 100%
It mechanically doesn't make sense to pierce 110% what would happen extra? Nothing
>>
Does the +1 Projectile from Deadeye means 2 RoA? I know it worked like that back in the days with Death's Harp.
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>>140872951
No
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>>140874139

Sounds kinda useless then. +1 Projectile is nothing when LMB and GMP exist.
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>>140869270
was it fixed yet? it was bugged before, taming effect didnt stack past 1
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>>140874574
No less damage modifiers
Get +1 on your quiver or bow or w/e you can corrupt it on and you have a "free" lmp and save a gem slot

It has uses
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>>140874853
especially great for ice shot etc. due to the aoe bonus from the node as well, more & bigger cones to potentially overlap
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>Drop 2 unique jewels in one map
>Fertile Mind and that other one that gives +1 trap or whatever, might be mine. Pic related.

They both suck for me though.
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>>140876881
>map
You mean zone
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>>140876881
fuck off, not your blog
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>>140856704
>>140856816
225% and diamond flask effect gets me 95% crit as an assassin, 77% without diamond.

Assassin is pretty fun.
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>die
>it happened in ONE shot
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>your special snowflake class is actually top 5 most planned to be played on reddit
whatever, they're not going to beat me at poopsocking
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>Doing Plateau rotation in nice group, 2 guys leave, get 2 other to join.
>By the end of the second map, mr CoC Discharge is clearly rushing as much as he can, missing half the mobs and not waiting.
>Leader and I tell him to slow down a bit, he answer with a taunt and rush just as much in his map.
>Now my map, show a nice plateau to the group and I PM everyone to not attack any mobs and let him go first.
>Swap map for ele reflect. As soon we are all in, he rush to the first pack and die.

I'm not proud but it is quite satisfactory to PK idiots.
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>>140881435
>things that never happened
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How do you feel GGG graphic artists feel when they see people playing in a resolution from 1999 and texture_quality=25? it's like you were a good chef at a restaurant and plebs would just bring their bottle of kiddie ketchup to pour on your grade A dishes
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>>140881889

probably as bad as they feel to have their art displayed by a game engine made with 2002-era tech
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>>140881889
it's more like bringing kiddie ketchup to a soup kitchen
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>>140876881
>being mexican
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1657022

Version 2.2.2c

Added nine new Divination Cards.
Changed the golden texture of Perandus monsters. It is now more subtle.
Minions created by Glove Enchantments can no longer be chained from.
Damage caused by Glove Enchantments can no longer be reflected.
Fixing a bug where the Perandus Archive could appear before the level which allowed it to drop maps, resulting in it being opened with no maps being dropped.
Fixed some issues where some Perandus monsters would not attack.
Fixed a bug with Leap Slam when used by Ranger wielding a staff.

I guess those damage glove enchants are finally worth looking into
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>page 8
>dead league for another month
>every league dies past the half way point because they can't incentivize worth shit
>tedious challenges that aren't hard or fun, just tedious
>can't sustain high rank maps and they are mostly overtuned
>shit race with shit rewards unless you are a poop socker
>horrible nearly unfixable performance without a complete rewrite
>freemium inflation cancer with stash tabs accelerating
>one shots
>MF builds are dead
>chaos damage only
>final destination
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>>140885625
is he drinking semen?
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>>140885625
>MF builds are dead
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>Finish labyrinth for the first time
>Realize I never really thought about which class I would go for
>Freak out
>Pick one at random

We Pathfinder now. I how I can make it work.
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Is Extractor Mentis of any use?
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>>140886413
master herbalist is a pretty insane 2-point notable
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>>140886841

That's the one I got first. I have nothing supporting it on the tree except Projectile damage I guess but it's still damage if it stacks.

I never got far in this game though, act 3 cruel I think. So I don't know anything about the end game shit, and I dunno if sustaining flasks is a hassle.
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>>140887025
>I dunno if sustaining flasks is a hassle
you can get some pretty damn long durations for flasks with the proper passives and a good belt
"accurate" flask management feels annoying at first but once you get used to it it becomes second nature
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>>140887025
roll quality on your flasks (+20% duration)
several points in Pathfinder are +8% flask duration
you can also get Druidic Rite (+20% flask duration)

then on top of that you get things like additional flask charges gained (Primal Spirit) and reduced flask charges used (Arcane Chemistry; belt mod) so no, "sustaining" flasks is not hard at all as ranger/pathfinder.

you don't get much value out of it until you reach end game and have actual good (unique) flasks though
master herbalist can carry you for a long time, turns all your flasks into amethysts and you poison on hit so if you use phys damage, it's pretty good
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>>140888406

Right now my damage is all over the place because my bow has crazy elemental mods. But I think that out of my 1.5k dps 2/3rds of it is physical.

And the points for durations are going to Master Surgeon and I am not sure if I want / can build for crit at this point.
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>>140888825
>I am not sure if I want / can build for crit at this point.
I have never heard of bow build that wasn't crit
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>Glove enchants can no longer be reflected
Thank you, Jesus Christ. I knew you loved us.
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>>140889180

Really? Well I'm willing to alter the planned build but I am not sure how much evasion/life/damage I'm gonna have to sacrifice for it.
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>>140889241
the consec ground on crit taken or chilled ground on hit are the only useful gloves enchant anyway

a 10s cooldown on a small dps boost isn't terribly useful if your build isn't shit in the first place
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>>140892461
Let's not mention the 15ex amulet required for this to work :^)
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>>140892637
desu u can do a ghetto version of it with that one templar ascendancy
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>>140892637
>godmode is perfectly balanced because you have to spend orbs for it
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>>140893713
>no build should be more powerful than my rf totem chieftain if you spend the currency in it
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>>140892637
>Have made 6 exalts today
15 exalts isn't all that much.

Just means you can't get it in a race league.
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>Just traded a multiple exalt item
>Servers gone to shit
>Didn't quit the instance
Sure hope that trade saved...
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>>140892914
10% chance to gain power charge on kill and 2.5% chance to gain end charge on kill totally replaces voll's combo

you're fucking retarded

nice single target damage with your """ghetto""" version by the way
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>>140893831
I bet you think headhunter is balanced as well
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>>140893982
You're misunderstanding it.

It's 25% chance to gain an endurance charge ANY time you gain a power charge. So your Voll's Protector or whatever generates endurance charges.
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>>140894215
still shit plus templar starts means you're wasting 50 points to travel to crit dagger clusters
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>>140894442
I did say ghetto version you zero reading comprehension faggot. also you dont waste even 10 points (though your build will get online much later), but I guess your tree building is as good as your eyes

and no, im not the guy who posted the picture, that's a whole other level of retard
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>>140894974
and before you pick on it, keyword is WASTE.
Hell, almost all of my shadow coc builds took those general melee crit nodes near templar. not like there's much else to go.
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when does the two week league start?
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>>140895302
in a few days
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>>140895302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
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>aspect of carnage + RF + ED
works better than I expected desu
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>>140895984
>zero defense: the build
found the shitcrow
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>>140895760
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>>140896081
I don't play babby leagues
works just fine so far, still early building stage but I'll see how it does in red maps
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>>140895984
wouldn't aspect of carnage increase rf's degen by 10%
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>>140857824
I traveled there from marauder
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>>140896712
it does, still have way more than enough regen to counter it
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These pricesetting faggots setting alchemy orb prices are really twisting my tits right now.
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>>140847567
why do shitcrows have such a hardon for the scion?are they all manhating liberal SJWs?
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>>140897635
buzzwords
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should i play EA in the two week race lads
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>>140897919
considering the best classes for this are all popular, probably not
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this league is so dead nobody even wanted my zana 8
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>>140898392
no shit
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>>140898127
i was going to go berserker
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>>140878680
without daggers?
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>>140898512
kek
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>>140895984
1669.1 lvl 27 ED

650% increased damage for ED

1.46 lvl 22 controlled destruction
1.31 lvl 22 pierce
1.41 lvl 22 rapid decay
1.42 lvl 22 void manipulation
1.65 lvl 26 righteous fire
1.30 pain attunement because why the fuck not
1.40 aspect of carnage

1669.1 * 7.5 * 11.499 = 143947.3 damage over time

Let's keep this meme going.
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>>140898791
vuln: +33% damage from dot
wither: +7x20% chaos damage
vaal lightning trap: +50% more global damage

144 * (1 + 0.33 + 0.07*20) * 1.5 = 590k
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Thread is dead, time for autism.

Make up keystones, don't need to be balanced/good. Just throwing out ideas.

Simplicity : +10% To the effects of all your nodes for every normal item equipped.

" Satisfaction can be found in the most mundane of things "

--

No fucking clue for a name

Exchange Mana and Life. Mana nodes affect Life, Life nodes affect Mana. 50% Reduced effect of Mana regeneration nodes.

" If I go mad, I might as well be dead "

r8. I think the second has a lot of interesting build potential. Like CI + EB. CI reduces "Mana" to 1 but EB allows you to use ES as your Mana Pool, and you gain chaos immunity.
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>>140899349
lol
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>>140898609
Without daggers.
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>>140899616
what weapon do you use?
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keystone idea:

Git Gud
"Gits you gud"
forces you to play hardcore
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>>140899951
I tried a bunch of stuff. For a while I was dual wielding void batteries for infinity billion damage. But reflects were too much of a problem without saffell's so I gave that up.

And I know everyone should be using a bladed wepaon for whirling blades and all because it's overpowered compared to other movement skills, but using the same shit for too long is boring.
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>>140900185
what's the cast speed bonus on Logout on Damage Taken?
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nice game poptards
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>playing poe
>gpu load: <1%
>cpu load: 8% (that's mostly from other programs)

kek, nice game
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>>140900581
nice computer
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>>140900257
wonder how a coc flicker build with the terminus est and that 95% crit chance would work out
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how ironic is it, that now that i've achieved knowledge of the game, it's so dead I can't impart it to anyone here

oh well, I'll enjoy racing with the 500 other autists in hc
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>>140899349
EQUANIMITY (somewhere north from templar)
Wielding a Two-Handed Melee Weapon counts as holding a Shield
Cannot deal non-attack Damage
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>9 cards for a strand map
When will this idiocy stop? How many more retards with div card supporter packs do we have to bear with?
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>>140901184
do they even have any say how many cards it takes?
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>>140901184
strands are a big deal to normietard casuals m8
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>>140899194
Sorry to say, but Vulnerability, Shock, and Wither are all increased, not more. Still, they would all add up to 223% increased damage, which could be 1669.1 * 9.73 * 11.499 = 186747.7 damage over time
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>>140901840
they are "increased damage taken" on the enemy side, they don't stack with your "increased damage"

your modifiers for damage are calculated fully before the damage reaches the enemy and gets increased by the enemy's "increased damage taken" modifiers
on the enemy's side they are additive ("increased") but that total modifier functions much like a more multiplier when you're looking at is as the damage you're dealing in the end
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>>140902068
>at is
*at it
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>>140902068
you're both right you idiot
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>>140901347
i'm all about those gorges, greatest map in the game. sold a handful of them yesterday for 80 chaos
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>>140902068
Even if that was the case, wouldn't all of the increases add up first, so that it would be 144 * (1 + 0.33 + 0.07*20 + .5) = ~465k?
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>>140902414
the formula where he sums entity A's increased damage with entity B's increased damage taken is incorrect, they are not the same type of modifier
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>>140902672
>i'm all about those gorges
so is everyone
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post a HC viable raider frost blades build
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>>140903249
Not me. I'd rather run a residence if I'm running a tier 9. Dapper Prodigy drops are better than anything you're likely to get from a gorge.
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>>140903743
fuck off
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>tfw Pathfinder

Whew, now with an Amethyst even Merciless chaos resistance could be a thing.
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>>140903798
my thoughts exactly, i love the gorge because it is an easy 4c. don't get the hype for gorge, imo it's a pretty shit map density wise.
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>>140903921
Yeah. But why. Nothing does chaos damage.
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>>140903921
stop fucking posting brazilian screenshots you fag
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>>140903869
'no'
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>>140903798
i don't know, i really don't farm for div cards and it doesn't factor into anything i do. it's a huge waste of time. the time it takes to clear gorge and get recipe items plus the leveling speed probably is a bigger benefit than the chance of getting a div card
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>>140904315
On average you make about 3 pr 4 chaos per residence map just from dapper prodigy drops. They're worth 20 chaos and in 40 residence maps I found 10. That was just alching the map and then rerolling temporal chains. Though admittedly I was probably pretty luck with those.

There's no way you'd make more currency running gorges. You'd just get more experience. But if you're above level, 92 or so you're better off in higher tier maps even if you could run a gorge in 60 seconds.
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>>140904708
agreed. i just look at the gorge as another meme that orbits vaal spark builds. the only way i see the gorge being good is if you have really high move speed, and then any map is viable. i would rather sell 4 gorges and buy 2 t12 maps, better exp, better map drops, just better all around.
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I know RNG is RNG but I got more t12-t13s than I can run in a reasonable time just from t10-t11s bosses. Makes you wonder what kind of shit builds people who complain they can't sustain t10s are playing, or are they just skipping every map boss?
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>>140905392
No, I think you've just been unreasonably lucky. I have about 8 red maps left in total including 4 tier 15s and I've been clearing with at least one pack size and 120% on everything.
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>>140905392
i'm jelly oh your map pool
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>>140905629
Well I'm not saying I could sustain red maps easily, 80% of them could easily blank, but they would at least drop t10-t11s, from which I could get t12-t13s again, and so on. So people who say they can't sustain t10s are either lying or running shit builds and skipping bosses who have a flat chance of dropping +2s.
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>>140905986
Red maps are the problem. Pretty much any 13+ I get ends up bricked. I've got maybe twenty tier 11s, but anything red I touch turns to yellow.

My last four tier 15s I've ran have given me nothing past tier 5. Case in point just now I'm running Palace and Dominus just dropped a promenade map. Dominus has a really high drop rate and this shit can still happen.
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>>140906243
if you are having problems sustaining higher tier maps, just vendor your 11's, or buy 12-13s from poe trade. if you can do uber that is a decent way to get 11's and red map. hard to justify for a lot of people, but uber is fun anyway, so win-win. i usually vendor maps, tons of 9-10 drop, just rank them up with the vendor recipe, nice way to keep yourself in gg maps and keep your stash clean
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>running gorges
>not selling them
Knew this is reddit 2.0
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>>140906643
Knowing my luck I'd just get fucked trying Uber farming. When I was running Atziri at the start of the league I got nothing for 9 sets in a row, just Atziri's promise x9 and no mortal pieces. That's what made me quit that shit.
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>his build can't do 150%+ quant red maps

literally lol out loud
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>>140907484
>his build takes longer than 10 minutes to clear twinned vuln temp chains crit minmax aoe core
lmao
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>>140905392
Yeah once you get a carto in a red map you're pretty much set and it all grows from there as long as your build isn't shit.

Fuck i'm sustaining reds with a Dreamfeather build.
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>>140907589
>Herdee dee da didlly da dinga dy day penis
lol
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>>140907827
I thought they removed cartos from red maps? unless you meant perandus archive
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>>140907316
>first ever successful atziri run
>mortal hope
>try a couple more atziri runs
>get another mortal hope
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>>140908032
Yeah my bad, now that I think about it that was a Village Ruin archive that got me like 4 red maps.
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>Seven league steps are two exalts.
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>>140909136
poorshits don't deserve to go fast
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how do i atziri
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>>140909480
>resurrect at checkpoint
>dying with 10k ehp
shitcrows smdh
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>>140909480
>arc on atziri
lmaoing @ u family
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>>140909705
i found out atziri has 100% reflect and she's literally impossible for most builds
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>>140910156
Only if you hit the clone with the mirror
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>>140910156
based retard
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>>140910156
her mirror clone has 100% reflect :^)
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>>140909672
>>140909705
check out the links on his arc.. 4 link ftw
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>>140910156
new and retarded
a common combination found among shitcrows and redditors
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>>140910367
he's not even a proper shitcrow with his 7k life 0 dps build
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>>140909480
>>140910156
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>140909480
dumb catposter
confirmed for having bought atziri challenge

you're a disgrace to all hardcore players itt
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im sure he will kill atziri some day
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>>140857476
if you know how to press going fast flasks 100% pierce helps clear speed immensly since you can just run around pressing contagion
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So Zealot's Oath applies to the regen effect from ED right?
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>>140914926
Yeah.
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>>140912221
retard
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>Added nine new Divination Cards.
>Changed the golden texture of Perandus monsters. It is now more subtle.
>Minions created by Glove Enchantments can no longer be chained from.
>Damage caused by Glove Enchantments can no longer be reflected.
>Fixing a bug where the Perandus Archive could appear before the level which allowed it to drop maps, resulting in it being opened with no maps being dropped.
>Fixed some issues where some Perandus monsters would not attack.
>Fixed a bug with Leap Slam when used by Ranger wielding a staff.
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>>140915127
>It is now more subtle.
hhhehehhehhehee
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>>140915189
it doesn't look any different. not even with post processing
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>poeurl.com/CEU

So how do I make this ED Scion less shit?
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>>140915404

your tree looks odd
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>>140915404
>poeurl.com/CEW
should be able to tricurse with heretics veil. i would just use the ZO flask instead of the node.
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>>140916303
>just use two rare expensive items it's easy brah git gud

i always kek at this logic
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>was planning on oros flicker build

>fireborn jewel drops


I wasn't even aware of thing, i'm gonna have to change my tree completely
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>>140916149
What do you mean odd? Is it not optimized properly?
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>>140916475
no as in the link looks like the screenie posted
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>>140916910
kek
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>poeurl.com/CEY
r8 my SRS/Zombie summoner build, any improvements? obviously gonna respec the dexterity nodes but what else for more survivability?
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>that tfw when will be going to sleep as soon as the two week begins
>>
well, after my 200th death in standard peranadus i think i'm finally ready to tackle hardcore and have a good mastery of the mechanics and layout of the game. wish me luck bros!
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>>140916363
>zo flask
>expensive
pick one and only one
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>>140915404
Pathing is a mess imo.

1) 8 points for Method of Madness is fucking inefficient. 54 / 8 = 6.75. As a rule of thumb, if you're getting less than 10% damage per node, just don't bother. All the more inexplicable because for 1 less point, you could fill the shadow chaos nodes and get Coordination (12 attack speed for WB, 6 cast speed) and 10+56% chaos damage.

However if you insist on pathing to that cluster, you need to shave off points somewhere else. And don't fucking skip Coordination

2) Never skip jewel slots when they're worth 2 passives. You can get 8% ES and a shit ton of damage per jewel.

3) Potency of Will is not worth it. Extra duration is a small poison dps boost if you use Consuming Dark, but it doesn't benefit ED/Contagion all that much. If your ED is taking 5+ seconds to kill and spread, you're doing something wrong and your build is shit.

4) Don't fill the Scion ES wheel, those are filler nodes. You skip Unnatural Calm, which is one of the best ES notables in the tree (30% ES for 3 points, ES recharge rate, +1% max lightning resist). Why?

5) The pathing to Templar is retarded. Fucking retarded. If you're just going to grab ZO, do that. Don't waste 7 points for 29 spd, 9 cast speed.

Your tree (107 points): poeurl.com/CEU
211+75% ES, 2 jewels, 411% damage

How I would fix it (107 points): poeurl.com/CE6
235+71% ES, 4 jewels, 452% damage
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>>140916442
yeah it's awesome. best place to put it is in duelist slot
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r8 my freezy pulse build poeg

poeurl.com/CE9

will it win me a HC demi?
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>>140918937
>pathing to doom cast through 20% crit chance instead of 2x 15% crit multi
hate this meme desu
>>
I wish all the fun and interesting builds in this game weren't gated behind stupidly expensive items.
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>>140918718
I thought I specced into Unnatural Calm, I must have forgot it. Thanks for the other suggestions though, will take a look. What do you think about the Deadeye/Occultist combo?
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>>140919264
>What do you think about the Deadeye/Occultist combo?
It's standard for ED Scion, not much to say about that.
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>>140919247
i wish this general wasn't full of spastic sperglords
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>>140919319
Good to know, thanks mate.
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>>140918937
Freezing Pulse isn't going to win you anything, it's a weak skill, and one of the few spells in game that lose all power if you're not at melee range. Complete trash skill, not even going to bother looking at tree.
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>>140919247
the only expensive items in the game right now are headhunter and skyforth
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>>140919525
try getting a 6l shavs in the first week of the upcoming race.
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>>140919525
it's a two week race fuckface

you won't be able to get anything for at least 4-5 days

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>140919610
There's nothing "fun" or "interesting" about going low-life and being an aurabot. If that's your definition of "fun" and "interesting", you're truly retarded and a shitcrow.
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>>140919610
>>140919643
>race
for a race you don't want a "fun" build, just something effective to poopsock 2 weeks as
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>>140919743
only if you're playing a shit ascendency class. anyone playing a good class will need OP gear to win rank1
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>>140919806
top kek, the only ascendancy who's going to make use of a shavs is guardian, and if you're going to be a support bitch, your success is hinging on the players whose dicks you're riding anyway
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>>140919971
i'd bet money the top guardian won't be a support bitch
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>>140920224
He'll be betting money too.
To RMT :^)
>>
just found the heterochromia card in merciless mervail's cavern
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>>140919743
>I don't play videogames to have fun
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>>140921179
>poe
>fun
>ever

the only thing keeping this game alive is its competitive aspect which is only appealing to autists

imagine poe without a ladder
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>>140919693
>LL crit ele spec throw inquis
>not interesting or fun
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if trips i'll go to walmart right fucking now and buy a $50 steam points card to spend on poe
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>>140921637
grats
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>>140921637
It's just a game man, why don't you check out that college you dropped 3 years ago? It's never too late to start your education again from where you left off.
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>>140921865
>implying I ever started an education
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