/twg/ - Total War General

>wake up
>still no BotET

Fuck that "this week" anon.

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>>140647072
Stats

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

I have seen the end of threads and posts from now shitposters will say...

Here began the fall of /twg/

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nth for best elves still not announced

>>140647121
Fuck stats.

Fuck armour
Fuck leadership
fuck speed
fuck melee attack
fuck melee defence
fuck weapon strength
fuck charge bonus

fuck you

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More stats

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>3 weeks, 2 days and 16 hours

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING he'd better not put tax on our memes!

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ALL ROADS LEAD TO SKAVENBLIGHT!

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>>140647121
more

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>140647375
STOP IT ANON!

TIME WILL MOVE SLOWLY IF YOU FOCUS ON IT.

Think of it like this. 4 more episodes of GoT to go.

>>140647335
Fuck this looks like a pile of shit.

>>140647072

Not this week actually but Tomorrow

>>140647559
Why is there a nazi in the game

>>140647791
why?

>>140647791
Why? Whats wrong with it?
>>140647072
To be fair that anon said it was a rumour. Based off the creators post on the 19th April about the game being done and just polishing it up for first version release. I too believed it would have been this week.

It's probably next week...probably.

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Was Charlemagne a good boy?

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>>140647830
cuz vampires mang idk famlam I just like stats and predictions

>>140647794
>>140647938
Stop feeding me your lies. I'm still full from last week. Please feed me some truth.

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For Hearth Guards.

>>140647851
Because it's not even based in reality.
And I get that it's fantasy, but there's not a difference between units anymore. No shock infantry, no defensive line, no reason to have any different army compositions or tailoring your armies to different enemies. It's just "throw units at things" Generals seem like they will be the deciding factor in every battle, which is just ducking ridiculous when you're working with large armies.
Pointless.
Every stat is cookiecutter.
And this comes from someone who was excited.

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>>140648258
>not based in reality
nor is Total War but game mechanics are what counts in the end

>>140648501
>skull in the ground

>>140648258
>>140648501
How is the variation in stats in Attila?

>>140648501
Well, you're wrong already because even though it's some and not all, certain units, their place on the battlefield and how they were used in combat is similar in total war to the ways they were used in reality.
Secondly, cookiecutter units in an rts is not good game mechanics.

>>140647963
He shed the blood of Saxon men.

>>140648258
>no difference between units
>significant differences in key stats
>units have specific bonuses such as being aoe, vs. Large, vs. Small, Ethereal, armor piercing.

>>140648258
>no shock infrantry
>no defensive line

Both of those are in that picture you idiot, or do you really need it to be spelled out literally for you?

>>140648718
About the same, but with far less units that are outliers.

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>>140647963

He was best boy

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>>140648741
Sure mang heavy inftantry and cav will be used simiarly fag. I'm sure if rome had Empire units they would be used similarly.

What are the cookiecutter units? Swords and spears have different roles. Greats are in a diffrerent tier. Whats up mang?

Is twg the least lewd general in vg?

>>140648151
Press F to pay respects

F

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>>140649710
>miss a spell to divert Archaon

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I understand why this is the way it is, but I hate this opening position.

I already have to deal with fucking Illyrians trying to goose me in the south and these guys are just hanging out.

>>140648258
What are you taking about?
Here's a hypothetical. You're playing as the empire:
>War with the Dorfs
>They don't have any large units
>Build army of greatswords and swordmen (Anti inf)
>They don't have any cav, all units are slow
>Harass them with your ranged cav
>Bring great cannons to knock out their arty

>War with chaos
>They have a good variety of well armored infantry, amazing cav, and large units
>Have a mix of halberds and greatswords
>Use mortars/hellblasters do deal with their superior armor
>Use demigriffons to over power their cav/dragon ogres

>War with vampires
>Have no ranged, forced to attack you everytime
>Bring ranged inf en masse to take advantage of their slow movement speed
>Use knights to hammer and anvil the shit out of them, causing them to crumble
>Keep halberds in reserve to deal with monstrous creatures, both flying and not
>Use hellstrorms and mortars for splash damage

>War with Orcs
>They have a wide variety of weak spammy inf, quality inf, and monstrous creatures
>Bring an army based on what you'll anticipate they have
>Similar to vamps, but with ranged, worse cav (I think), and worse flying
>Greatsword and swordsmen best bet
>Halberds needed late game
>Artillery should be based on what ever the enemy has, use spies

This is going to be the most varied Total War yet, famalam

>>140647072

Who cares, Warhammer is coming out jn literally less than a month

>>140649245
They have different roles of you truly try to use them differently. Their stats are similar, so you could effectively use them in any role at any time. I should have guessed, what with the tiny unit rosters, but I held out hope.

>>140649359
Well, 70% of other generals' OPs are the SFW versions of their game's fan art. Ours are historical paintings and screenshots and traditional eastern architecture.

I'd say yes.

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What happened yo the historical manga list?

>>140651305
The point is that the army of greatswords you pointed out could be your only army comp that you ever use. They have no major difference in stats than anything else.

Just preordered TW warhammer,

anyone else excited for the release?

>>140651619
I am literally grinding my teeth.

>>140651613
>use an amry of only greatswords
>get rekt when the enemy has a handful of cav or monstrous units

>>140651369
look at >>140647335


all does units do something different homie. eMpire got some expendable stiff, some expendables good against big stuff, and high tier shit

>>140651613
>Halberdiers
>Anti-large
>Greatswords
>Anti infantry
No, anon.

>>140651613

That's a terrible point, the stats are now behind the armour piercing, strong defence vs large, strong attack vs large, etc.

What you would have as a number is now under a trait, it's literally the same as before only more varied because of the other units that are not humanoids and magic, also effects like etheral,magic and fire melee attack etc.

You are trying to make it look the same, it's not working, in fact it's the complete opposite and we haven't even seen all the effects yet.

>>140651928
We've literally seen a unit of greatswords take out a unit of cavalry by itself in the Amulet video.

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>>140651619

3 weeks, 2 days and 16 hours

>>140651680
damn, i preordered on steam, just saw the high king edition, wonder if it is possible to refund and get that edition instead...

>>140651613
Is this your first Total War game? Those raw stats never include the bonuses they get against specific units. That is what the upper half of the stat box is for, to tell you about those bonuses. Spears have always done more damage to cavalry, but they didn't have high stats than a standard swordsman.

I want Tomb Kings, goddammit. Vampire Lords are pussy undead.

>>140652076
Could be operating on the zweihander meme. Or a heavy infantry/light cav situation.

>>140652221

> dead we wuz kangz

Nah, VC is better

>>140652076
They are a good unit that can put up a good fight against most things, but they will be painfully expensive. Sure, throw your GS against cav. It'll be a waste considering that spearmen could get the job done and are much cheaper.

In FotS, I could make a full stack of armstronk guns. I'd win every battle, but I'd have like one or two armies. Balance is more economical and generally more effective.

>>140647121

Wait, Archaon is a caster?

I was hoping to use him as a walking tank raping in melee.

Thinking of getting the High King edition for TW warhammer, views, worth?

>>140652347
This.

Rome 2 had the oathsworn meme. They stood up fantastically against cav.

>>140652621
He's a caster and a melee expert, so he can do both.

>>140652675

I dunno desu, if you're a big fan I guess

>>140652807
Big fan of warhammer, and fantasy more than anything really getting into age of Sigmar at the moment, but not played any of the other total wars

>>140652798

Yeah but how does he fare in melee against say, Ungrim?

>>140652967
Eh, probably pretty well. His stats look really good.
>>140647121

>>140653217

Mmh I hope so, I was planning on playing him first

>tfw eceryone will play Heinrich becauze no one likes Mannfred

>>140652675
150 bucks for some plastic chaff and a few books? I mean, what's your dollar/brain cell ratio?

I'm really excited for Total War: Warhammer

I've played the tabletop game for years and after they decided to retcon the setting, this taking place in the old one is excellent,

Problem is I've never play a Total War game. Which one should I play to get a better understanding of the series' mechanics?

>>140653415
Archaon will be a great duelist. If you really wanted to he is a fire lore wizard if you wanted to focus on that.

>>140653791
Shogun 2 is the easiest o grasp TW concepts

>>140653791

This game will be the most similar to games from Shogun 2 onwards, so I suggest you play those.

>>140653609
well i am a student... so its a matter of the governments money, its more i can manage my money well enough as to not need support from family, not need a job and can treat myself every now and then, i am on the fence about it as the only other game i have ever pre ordered turned out to be the worst game i think i have ever played, kinda put me off pre ordering games since

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Nobunaga fresh outta puberty and already saving daddy.

>>140654204
Very few of these extravagant collectors' editions have been any good, especially as of late. I came this close to buying the Fallout 4 CE and whataya know, the game and the CE were both shit. I dodged a bullet with that one.

I'm exited for this game too, but don't get coaxed into buying toys. We don't even know if it's good yet. The only reason I would ever buy a CE is if I wanted to try and turn a profit by selling it later.

>>140653791

Shogun 2 then later on if theres time before Warhammer comes out, try out Attila

>>140654986
Thats the thing only 5k of them are being made

>>140655125
Its rarity increases its value, not quality.

Want to sell it, then it may be a good investment.

Want to keep it, I suppose it's your money.

>>140654429

Puberty was already old at the time, the guy who took constantinople was like 20

>>140654429
T-those are some pretty big unit sizes

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>The powerful Rhinox (or Rhinoxen) is a large fur-covered creature similar to a woolly rhinoceros, used as a beast of burden by Ogres. Gnoblars construct crude war machines drawn by these beasts and Ogres sometimes use them as mounts.

>Like a horned mountain with legs, the Rhinox is a foul-tempered, enormous beast that can wreak havoc when roused. Under the control of their Ogre masters, their focused fury can be twice as devastating. A charging Rhinox rumbles like thunder, and its hooves churn the earth like an earthquake. It takes a brave man to stand against the charge of Rhinox cavalry.

BotET are starting to put daily screenshots to tease you

>>140651537

"List of historical manga for your TW needs UPDATED:
>Historie
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=Historie
The story of a strategist at the service of King Phillip of Macedon, uses both legends and historical facts for its story.
Mediocre art, mediocre combat, accurate battles.
>Ad Astra - Scipio to Hannibal
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=AdAstraScipioToHannibal
The second Punic war, despite what you might think it's surprisingly historically accurate, even the parts where Hannibal is depicted as something of a child prodigy are based on quotes from ancient authors, which of course might have been making shit up.
Good art, mediocre combat, accurate battles.
>Wolfsmund
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=OokamiNoKuchiWolfsmund
14th century Switzerland, the story of the Swiss Cantons rising up agains the Austrian Holy Roman Empire under the Haupsburgs and gaining their independence.
Decent art, accurate combat, inaccurate battles.
>Gunka no Baltzar
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=GunkaNoBaltzar
TOTALLY NOT PRUSSIA NOT FIGHTING TOTALLY NOT AUSTRIA OVER BAVARIA
Good art, accurate combat, inaccurate* (simply because it's an alternate world setting and these battles didn't take place like this) battles.
>Vinland Saga
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=VinlandSaga
11th century Vikings, the invasion of England by King Canute, the story of Thorfinn and the discovery of Vinland/Greenland/North east america, SPOILERS
Great art, inaccurate combat, accurate battles
>Bonus: Vagabond
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=Vagabond
The story of Miyamoto Musashi considered one of the greatest swordsmen to have ever lived, has no real large scale battles but lots of duels, the story is pretty accurate except for a couple incidents where historians are not sure if really happened or not, anyway this is the only historical japanese setting I've seen worth a read.
Amazing art, accurate combat, no real battles."

though it says 'updated', it's from a couple months back

>>140657404
>Ogres
>light cavalry
IS THAT YOU, RADIOUS?

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>>140657404

>>140653791
If you played the table top then you should honestly be fine I think. Table-top seems way harder than total battles. Only the campaign stuff might be hard.

>Goa (Iroquois Confederacy) - War

Yeah, that region to region trading sure is working swell, Portugal giving away one of the richest ports in India for some irrelevant landlocked province in Canada I will likely take away from them eventually, if they don't lose it to natives

Is it Darthmod doing this or is it the vanilla AI's retardness leaking through ?

>>140657196
For you.

>>140657783
There is a reason why they took out province trading.

>>140647963
He was kind of an asshole to non-Christians but was regarded as a pretty cool dude if you didn't mess with his politics.
Also seemed super protective of his nun of a little sister

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>stairway structures crumble
>protection around propeller crumbles
>the hull cracks
>explosion ultimately leaves the ship snapped in half

You know, while it does get really old fighting every last naval battle, at least it's fun to go over and look at the enemy ships as your fleet makes quick work of them.

>>140651613
Get the extended stats mod for Attila and boot it up.
Viking Raiders get +10 attack against all infantry, lots of cavalry get +20 against other cav, spearmen get +20 against cavalry and Expert Charge Defense to take apart charges, two-handers get obliterated by archer fire while heavy spears are nigh immune, etc.

How I increase unit sizes in Attila for multipliers?

1 legion, 10,000 strong, vs a group of 15,000 Crusaders, a mixed rabble of knights, yeomen, peasants, etc

>>140660896
How much is 1 strong?

>>140661007
well that would just be a legionary

>>140661007
about 10 weaks

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Anthonius II is at it again. Hahahahahahahaahahaha. While attempting to save the bread horses of Rome II, he was attacked by the evil administration of TWC.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?272653-Moderation-Commentary-Thread&p=14943317&viewfull=1#post14943317

>>140662406
>UN laws defend the right for expresion. UN laws are above any other constitutional or other law on the planet. Even so...since when TRUTH is something offending?
Their results prove my right and prove that EVERYTHING I said is true...Just take a look in the unfinished last TW games. I can understand the delicate situation of TWC -that "provides" future personel for CA/SEGA through modding but even so TRUTH must be expressed. Just think your self buying a car... You have read the prosepctus that describe what exactly you buy. You agree according to what you read, you pay for what you agreed and suddenly you recieve half of the car you bought. When you complain the answer you get is "take your car to a car moddifier" to get it done. Is that fair?
About critisism. Truth is saidfrom someone that CARES. Otherwise he/she remains silent. Question: Does TWC forums cares about its members ineterests that THOSE MEMBERS are the reason of its existance and attraction for adds or simply defends CA/SEGA no matter what?


God Anthonius never fails to deliver.

>>140660896
Probably the Legion because they're presumably a disciplined professional army instead of 60% disciplined mob and 35% disciplined professional army (and 5% scavengers who don't actually want to fight)
Also because presumably the legion has a centralized command instead of the crusaders who take orders from three different factions.

>>140663048
What if the crusaders had one of those cross-on-cart things
No army of God can be defeated with it

>>140662406
wHATS GOing on here?

>>140663356
What if those skaven had a screaming bell?

>>140651619
Very Like, it's kind of the only game I want this year

>>140662876
>>140663494
Greek autists at it again.
Most of them left years ago to the Greek version of TWC, after accusing TWC of hating Greeks

>>140664779
I hate Greeks, too.

>>140657404

wow, the game looks like shit. I know that a M2 mod isn't going to look the greatest, but everything looks so stiff and stilted. Watching some of the units move around is just painful, and basically look like they got the miniatures, and slapped wheels on them for movement.

I mean, why even make flying units if they can't do anything that normal cav can't, asides from looking extra shitty

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Just installed 1648.

How the hell do I turn a profit in this game?

>>140665473

>Those hot criticisms

This has literally been the case for every game in the series. The older engine suffers more, but even from Empire: Total War onwards it has only gotten marginally better, if not worse in some cases

Unit movement can still be stiff at times, trying to maneuver units in towns is painful, sometimes the units can bug out, etc etc

All of the criticism you gave was valid for Rome 2 for a while. And sadly it will likely still be valid for Creative Assembly's latest releases unless they did a major shake-up of their dev team

The only reason why they haven't taken off after Rome 2 is pretty much because of how buggy, unpolished and DLC-fragmented their games tend to be. If they didn't do that shit they would be trending on the pretty huge sale numbers Rome 2 generated compared to their earlier titles

>>140663557
The Skaven won though

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what are the chances that this guy is a legendary lord for lizardmen? i figure we will have an oldblood and probalby a second spawn slann but a casting only glass cannon LL would be fun as fuck

Can someone explain what "brave romans to a man" means?

It doesn't make sense no matter how many times I hear it.

>>140667997
99% chance

The real question about faction lords is who the second and third characters will be and whether or not we'll get the heroes in as super-general/agents

>>140668716

It means they will stay brave (as expected from Romans) and not retreat even if they get killed to a (single) man, and/or that every single man is brave

Did you fail English 101 ?

>>140663356
>What if the crusaders had one of those cross-on-cart things
The Legion would probably hire Saracen auxiliaries to steal it.

>>140668716
Brave Romans to a man means they are all Romans, and all as brave as Romans ought to be.

>>140668930
Kroq-gar, Mazdamundi, and Teninone are my bets on what the lizardmen LLs are gonna be, but if Mazdamundi isn't getting in then Kroak would be the next choice as far as having a slann that has a major part on the TT and the lore.

>>140669697
I'm not familiar with their characters, but a Slann and a powerful warrior/monstrous reptile would make the most sense for two LLs.

"Lucius Aemilius Paullus you are the only one whom the gods in heaven will hold blameless for today’s disaster
Come, take my horse, while there is strength left in your body and I am here to act as your companion, supporter, and defender. Do not desecrate this dreadful battle further with a consul’s death. We have cause enough for tears of grief without that"

>>140669916
"You are a brave man, Gnaeus Cornelius, and a good one. Bless you for it. But you have very little time to escape the enemy’s clutches; don’t waste it in futile acts of pity. Hurry! Tell the Senate to see to Rome’s defences and strengthen them before the victorious enemy arrives. And have a quiet word for me in private with Quintus Fabius. Tell him that as long as I lived and even as I died, I never forgot his words of wisdom Now leave me here to breathe my last among my slaughtered soldiers. I have no desire to stand trial once again for my consulship, still less to denounce a colleague in the hope that I might protect my own good name by accusing someone else of failure"

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>>140647335
Can anyone hazard a guess at the icons at the bottom of the unit cards? I'm new to Total War and despite tinkering with a few sessions of Shogun 2 in preparation I'm still unfamiliar with a lot of stuff.

Based on the units that have it in the Empire roster, it looks like EVERY DWARF UNIT has Shieldwall. Which is amazing. Any guesses on some of the others?

>>140669916
>>140670028
Fucking Varro

>>140670424
The eye may be Hidden or can hide.
The 2 arrows in the red circle look like fast reload for artillery.

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>>140669697
>>140669862
Screw that

Tetto'Eko or bust

>>140669862
Monstrous wouldn't because all the bigger reptiles are just animals.
It'll probably be Mazdamundi; the eldest Slann,
and Kroq-gar, a saurus that rides a Carnosaur(T-Rex). Probably most obvious third option would be Tehenuhain, the skink prophet of the serpent cult.

Kroak is kinda an option but as he basically exists as a ghost attached to a mummified corpse/ICBM he isn't a leader anymore.

You've also got two lesser Saurus, a Skink and a Chameleon. While each are pretty neat they're not Lord tier(translation to TW army leading duties, I forget which is in which actual category.)

>>140670424
The eye is probably can hide in woods and tall grass

The red person with an arrow is the vanguard deployment (white zone outside of your main deployment zone)

The two red arrows with a / through them obviously means can't run

The unique one under neath the gyrobomer is probably its bombs.

Not to sure about others.

>>140670424
The eye is likely 'can hide in shrubbery' or whatever. The little arrow on the red dude is either guerilla deployment or rocket jumping.
The blue shield I dunno about, the black shield is probably shieldwall
>>140670619
No it's definitely 'cannot run'

>>140670424
Thanks for taking pics of all these, its handy

>This game will unlock in approximately 3 weeks, 2 days and 12 hours

cow:botet when?

I wonder if giants will be able to swipe at flying units. They look the right size for how high in the air the units appear to be.

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>>140671125
It's actually a crop of a larger image that wouldn't fit on 4chan. Unless... Yep! Got it in shitty .gif form for easy browsing. Get the actual image here:
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>>140670909
>The blue shield I dunno about, the black shield is probably shieldwall

I don't think so, based on who has the blue shields in >>140647335 it looks lik...

Oh shit. Yeah Halberds and Spearmen have the same "Shield With Chevron" as... yeah only Longbeards have that one. Which I'm guessing is Shieldwall based on the Empire units that have it. Blue Shield must be something else.

>>140668716
It means that the men are, to a man (all of the men present in the group) are brave (courageous, valiant, selfless) and Roman (civilized)

>>140672728
Not a fan of judging units by their statcards just cause of the passive/active ability bar is so much more meaningful here

Instead of just being shit like the ability to hide in forests you have stuff like Ethereal letting a unit ignore 75% of non-magic damage

>>140670424
>shield wall

I thought they said that there will be no unit abilities anymore. The only thing will be spells. I mean I want unit abilities. I want my halberds to form a spear wall.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>140673319
Yeah, the stats themselves don't mean much unless you actually care about stuff like "Percent Chance to Hit" or "Damage Done Per Strike", which you have to calculate yourself. Just trying to suss out those passives and actives by comparing similar unit cards.

>>140673320
Where the fuck did you hear that, son? Tons of units are going to have abilities. That's what the Gyrobomber's bombs are, just as one example.

ancient empires when

warhammer victoria for the next TW if im being honest

>>140672728
Maybe it's resistant to magic?

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BE READY ALREADY

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>>140674523
Can't tell on the zoomed in view but that's probably what it is. Which makes sense for Dwarfs, they need to reduce the damage Magic does somehow. I was hoping they'd do it more like the older mechanics, where Dwarfs make magic more likely to misfire just by being there.

Another fun thing is that Thunderers are Shielded while only wearing shields on their backs, which I'm assuming means they're extra defended against non-flanking attacks. Makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0BMkKmwB4

Yeah, going back to the Thundering Falls video it looks like Magical Damage is represented as a blue symbol, so the blue shield is probably Magical Resistance.

Also, on the debate of Thunderers (handguns) versus Quarrellers (crossbows). Looks like it's the same as the tabletop where Crossbows get more range and damage but lose out on armor-piercing.

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We worked hard to shed the blood of Frankish men, and thankfully we managed to outlast Charlemagne the Bloodthirsty. A shame that it was the Lombards instead of us dealing the final blow.

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Lileath, elven goddess of dream, also known as the 'lady'. No cucking, the elves are the one that are cucked.

>>140676841
>All bretonnian knights can get a magical save that can deflect cannon balls because lileath favors them
>No elf can get said favor

Sure its the bretonnians that are """"""""Cucked""""""""

if anything Lileath has a man fetish because of how fucking awesome bretonnians actually are.

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ERE THE SUN IS HIGH IN HEAVEN
THEY YOU FEAR, BY PANIC RIVEN
SHALL LIKE FRIGHTENED SHEEP BE DRIVEN
FAR BY HARLECH MEN

>>140676841
the cuck meme is because she had an elvish child with an elf prince once that was purely out of racial duty to the elves to make sure the elves actually survived. It was the king of brettonia she married and made a god to join her in the new world, and the elf baby was probably before they married. the cuck meme is too forced, elves are cuck'd

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And with that, the Saxons saved Paganism from being destroyed by the likes of Charlemagne. Though they did not expand far beyond the borders of the kingdom of Saxony, they at least managed to shed the blood of over 4000 Frankish boys. So much for Charlemagne's one god leading him to victory.

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>>140677242
YOUR FOES ON EVERY SIDE ASSAILING
FORWARD PRESS WITH HEART UNFAILING
'TILL INVADERS LEARN WITH QUAILING
CAMBRIA NE'ER CAN YIELD!

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>>140677210
>>140677364
bretonnians please go.
This is a sigmarite thread

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>>140679126
You came to the wrong thread, Simarite.

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>>140679195
>mfw norscans

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>>140679409
This is a thread for the true gods now.

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>>140679502
PRAISE SIGMAR
HE PRESERVETH

>>140675578
Is this or ancient empires going to be ready before warhammer? Because if not then I sadly will probably never play them.

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>>140679126
>You will never be so awesome that a literal elf goddess will sneak out of her peoples realm just to catch a glimpse of you slay dragon.
>You will never get the pleasure of drinking from her """""""grail"""""""
>She will never turn you into a god in your own right.
>As a sigmarite your only destiny is to eventually become an anti chaos robot as your soul is slowly disintegrated whenever you are killed.
>beep boop kill chaos beep boop.

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>>140680038
>bretonnians believe this
>sigmarine war priests do this every day
>they don't even do it for some poon
>they do it because the weakest of the sigmarites deserve to be protected.

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What AoC faction should I do next? Already done Asturias and pic related.

>>140680569
Cordoba.

>>140680308
>He does it for free

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>>140680692
>he does it only when some pointy ears opens her legs for it.

Sigmar's Waifu >>>>>>>>>> some elf tart.

>>140680797
>implying Sigmar will lend you his waifu

>>140681112
His waifu died. He loved her so much that he swore to love only the empire, because he could never love another like her.

>>140680797
>Sigmar will continually send you into the depths of hell to die

Great god you have there.

>>140681198
elfcucks will hide behind sigmar like the faggots that they are.

alright /twg/ i own all the games n shit except for rome 2, and i havent ever played em

tell me whats shit and whats not shit so i dont have to waste my time

>>140681315

start with shogun 2 then move to attila

>>140681315
Shit for new players: Anything before Shogun 2 because they handle like shit
Good for new players: Shogun 2 because it's a very good introduction to the series and easy to grasp
After Shogun 2 move onto Attila, just be prepared for a difficulty spike. Rome 2 is like the easier version of Attila and no longer buggy and shit but it's still somewhat lacking in the politics area and such. FotS is probably your best gunpowder TW, Napoleon is good too.

>>140681315
>>140681814
I'd specifically advise to play the original Rome and M2 first. They're pretty damn good if a lot more clunky than later titles, which is why you want to play them first.
It'd be hard to downgrade some of the quality of life the advancement of the series brings, so you would be missing out on a lot of good shit and mods.

>>140682104
The clunkiness of those titles often drives players away from the series altogether.

>>140674486

I want pike and shot, Victoria or Medieval.

If we can fully edit the map then Medieval would offer the best modding foundation but I feel like the modding community has experienced a major brain drain from the past. Pike and shot would be fun and have pew pew with melee being important still, victoria would have lots of neat techs.

>>140651369
>these units are exactly the same
>unless you use them for their intended role

Are you high?

I imagine it's going to be similar to Atilla where there's a slight variance between spearman (who have a slight defensive advantage and the ability to counter and lock down cav) and sword/axe infantry (who are good at encircling enemy units and chopping through their lines)

>>140682229
And here citation is given that the series improves in that aspect, so if they find the earlier titles unsatisfying because of certain poor features they've heard that they should try a later title.

>>140652076
But anon. High quality sword infantry can 1v1 lots of cavalry in most Total War games. It's still not a great strategy because high quality units are so ruinously expensive.

You're better off using spears which will do the job for a fraction of the price and keep one or two great swords for carrying the front line.

>>140682735
He's probably the same retard as the guy last thread who was trying to push for magical stat boosts to force players to keep formation.

>>140654204
Don't.

If you're a student don't be spending my tax money on that shit.

>>140682941
Meant for >>140682634

>>140655374
But it ain't his money, that's the joke.

>>140659563
I've never really bothered with naval battles in Total War. I usually just have one full stack fleet roaming around to stop my trade getting fucked but I find the ai never bothers to meet my desire for huge naval battles.

>Empire
>build a navy of which the world have never seen
>fly out into the world and notice every other enemy navy on the map has like three units in it
>declare war on Spain because they have a full stack navy
>it's entirely made up of sloops, brigs and trade ships

Never again

>>140683412
I think navies could be made significantly more important if internal trade was a thing and if raiding navies killed fishing food income.

>>140683727
I think they'd be made more purposeful if you had chains of islands that could be developed with ports and economy buildings but we're too small to put land armies on so have to be defended with navies.

>>140683869
Maybe something like DeI's supply system could work where you could have sea supply routes.

>>140683727
It's not about navies being too important or not, as it'd just increase micromanagement of little tiny battles on the campaign map.
It already kinda is that way in Shogun 2, navy can be fairly important given the lengths people will go to ship armies, and their very happy port sacking behavior.
None of the intricacies of naval interaction matters as it doesn't meet that poster's desire for really large scale naval battles. The AI just never builds a doomfleet.

I think naval battles are pretty boring in TW games personally so I don't care.

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>playing some rise of the samurai
>picking easy mode fujiwara after my taira game didn't pan out
>no money
>everybody hates me and won't trade with me
>get constantly attacked by doomstacks of sword attendants and samurai
>mfw

I don't remember hard being this hard.

>>140684073
Rise of the Samurai is good because of its difficulty and more unique setting.

>>140683965
>>140684043

One of the biggest problems with naval combat in every Total War is how damn hard it is to actually destroy or capture an enemy fleet. If naval battles could be decisive when the two fleets finally find each other and engage, then people would be more inclined to use them.

>>140684268
Well first off we need to get rid of the ridiculous habit ships have of self-igniting when they lose melee combat.
Then there's the problem of 'forced march' and 'row hard' where armies and navies can forever elude you because they move so much faster.

>>140684268
It was easier in Empire/Napoleon because you could load chain shot and cripple fleeing ships.

My biggest complaint is how high the team who made the naval combat for Rome II/Atilla must have been.

Who could look at how the battles pan out and think "yeah. This looks pretty fun!"

I get that naval combat in those days had none of the stately grandeur to it that later eras had, but fucking hell.

The whole thing is just a cluster fuck.

>>140684579
Rome 2 civilized-civilized naval battles were okay as long as you had two half-strength fleets going around, full stacks devolved into a clusterfuck unless you had 4-6 arty ships.
Boarding should've been Shogun 2 style though, the Romans historically had a huge advantage against Carthaginians because they had this little drawbridge thing on their ships.

>>140683412

I can tell that you've never played FotS.

>bombardment from a large and powerful navy makes siege battles a joke
>enemy navies will block thousands of gold worth the money from trade route
>then bombard your buildings, which can easily take up several thousand gold per turn to fix
>the enemy AI can also make use of ship bombardment during battles

Basically, you can't just leave naval battles alone, and the auto-resolve will sink your ships even when it's so far in your favor that the actual battle that you're forced to fight is a fifteen second exchange (once you actually reach them) that's just you blowing the shit out of them.

>>140684748
His complaint was that naval battles aren't cool, large, or enjoyable, not that they don't exist. FotS navies are often shit-tier but as you said you have to fight them anyway.

>>140684748
See, I've only played FoTS on standard difficulty because at the time I had a Theisis to write and by the time I was finished Atilla was out, but I felt as though the enemy severely underused their naval assets.

They bombed my towns once or twice but it was more a token effort than any coherent anti-economy plan.

Maybe I'll replay on legendary or something to see if they play a better game.

>>140684384
Granted, the Land Battles do this pretty well with the extra speed all units get when charging.

I know Man O' War isn't the most up to date thing, but Total War needs to take a page from their rulebooks. If you hurt a ship enough it gets its movement reduced and is eventually crippled. You don't need chain shot to model the fact that killing crew or putting holes in sails is going to keep a ship from just running off. Plus, most IRL naval battles had huge losses for the losing side, which is rarely represented in Total War.

>>140684956
Difficulty simply makes enemy armies and navies fuckhueg, gives them extra cash, makes them fight harder, increases PO, and might increase loyalty and stuff. It doesn't actually make them smarter.
>>140685056
I actually meant the problem where enemy navies would completely refuse to fight you because you were slightly bigger and the autocalc suggested roflstomp and could evade you indefinitely in a single sea zone.

>>140685157
>I actually meant the problem where enemy navies would completely refuse to fight you because you were slightly bigger and the autocalc suggested roflstomp and could evade you indefinitely in a single sea zone.
Bring two navies.

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Reminder that in End Times, Alarielle marries Malekith after he kills Tyrion, her lover and husband-to-be.

High Elves are literally cuckening: the cuckened.

>>140686142
and then she leaves him to die under a boulder and he merges with his dragon gf

>>140684073
Did you kill your fucking brother-clan off?

>>140686232

They stabbed me in the back pretty early for some reason.

>>140686392
I never seen this

>>140686392
>>140686464
What the fuck, I know Minnamoto's have a family twist, but the green clan doing that shit? Damn.

>go on 4chan
>look at topbar
>we have a quest board now
Strange.

>>140686539
and its full of shitposting.

>>140686539
You mean finally /tg/ can be purged of the endless cancer that has choked the board for far too long.

>>140686609
Well seeing as it split from /tg/ with apparently no stimulus from /tg/ some amount of shitposting is expected.

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>>140686539
Wasn't this kept in /tg/

>>140686632
>less than 10% of the board has quests
>actually add new content via drawfags and or other ways.

>"I don't like it, it triggers my M:TG and pathfinder posting"

>>140686761
Quests were interesting at first when only two or three quests were being run at any time. By the end, upwards of 30-40% of the board could be quests with old threads still in the catalog as new ones are being made because the small image limit had been hit, choking out actual original content.
>strawman
Cute.

>>140686632
>/tg/ can be purged of the endless cancer
But new board called /qst/ not /wh/.

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GIVE ME WARHAMMER NOW!

GIVE ME WARHAMMER NOOOOOOOW!

FUCKING GIVE IT TO ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

>>140687118
That is funny, considering that we have /his/.

>>140687131
What in the name of the Lord is that thing

>>140687021
>number of OPs on /tg/ 282055
>number of OPs on /tg/ with the word quest in them 11685

30 to 40% my ass.

Quests are the majority of /tg/ related new stuff that actually gets somewhere.

What is best mod for Napoleon Total war? My gunpowder autism strikes again and i dont want do deal with Empire mess.

>>140687243
is fregg

>>140687118
It's a few years too late to bitch about Warhammer being an overwhelming influence on /tg/. Well, 40k at least. Age of Sigmar whining still hasn't died down.

>>140687295
>It's a few years too late to bitch about Warhammer being an overwhelming influence on /tg/
>implying Warhammer threads isn't cancer

>>140687271
Land of the Rising Sun mod for Shogun 2 friend.

>>140687374
You weren't there when the board was nothing but Warhammer 40k and bitching about D&D 4th edition.

>>140687243

It's just a very ugly frog.

>>140687474
So?/co/ once was full of MLP threads, yet they still was a pure cancer.

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>>140687131

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>>140687624
>the slaan is a prop

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>>140647417
If our Warboss Grimgor is to become the best
Military leader of all the orcs and elves

>>140687616
You really need to lean how plurals work. Go back to third grade.
Also, /co/ has always been shit; from its days as Avatar general to its modern, worthless /co/mblr self.

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>>140687734

>>140687804
>Also, /co/ has always been shit; from its days as Avatar general to its modern, worthless /co/mblr self.
So as /tg/ except few wargames generals and board games generals.

>>140645467
Fucking awesome

>>140687830
so thats why there was an open spot for a new underling

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>/twg/ steam-grp chat is always empty

I mean I dont want furries to roleplay as Tau, like in the DoW groups I was in but why are you anti-social?

>>140688647
>grp
whats grp?

>>140688647
I don't go to 4chan steam group because they are always full of anime retards

>>140688647
Because WHFB is dead and none cares about TWW, that's why they made Chaos freeLC.

>>140687398
But muh european continent, i dont want to play as nippon.

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>>140688741

>>140688647
Some anon needs to make a new steam group for multiplayer,people use it and post shit here so newfags also join and so on

>>140688854
That image is kinda retarded. Just because of where 4chan came from doesn't mean it is all about one thing. You are in a thread about total war.

>>140688854
/a/ exists for a reason

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>>140688854

>>140688951
Going on 4chan and whining about anime is like going to Mexico and whining that people there like soccer.

>>140688951

Nobody is claiming it's about one thing, the other boards exist for the discussion of non-anime topics, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss anime in them.

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I want to run this shit on ultra, and I'm planning to get this one

I7 -3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
16,0GM RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX980 Ti (6 GB ddr5 sdram)

what do you think?

>>140688712
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral#

No clue why its not the one from the OP.

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>>140688951
>>140688972
>>140689024

everytime

>>140689054
Now I just know you are retarded.

Look, we are a community who like a variety of things. That's it.

>>140689121
Sure, but they are mostly about a single topic.

"This board is for the posting of video game "general" threads, which are long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic."

>>140689234
and where is moot now ?

>>140689234
Did you just ignore his other point about spilling over to other boards - because boards are about certain topics.

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>>140689234
everytime

>>140689234
>This derailing started because anon hates anime retards that get butthurt and post the only image they have against anime belongs to /a/

>>140689239
>>140689383

>Sure, but they are mostly about a single topic.

Right but it's still on a site that was created for the discussion of anime, people came to 4chan to discuss anime, other boards were created so they could discuss other stuff in addition to anime. Everyone complaining about anime is just a newfag desu.

>>140689165
I mean ram is so cheap that the price doesn't matter but you don't really need more than 8gb for any application.

>>140689210
Looks pretty dead and with that many people it's probably for a reason.

Just ironically join the chat of a group of a different topic.

>>140689509
>Le i like anime so i have been on 4chan for 13 years meme

How do higher difficulties change the AI in Rome 2?

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>>140689509
Just because it was created for a specific purporse doesn't mean that it is not used for other things now. So what is your beef.

Anyway. We need more Total War.

>>140689415

The ass pain that went into that image is palatable

>>140689834
>So what is your beef

When people derail threads and go off topic complaining about anime on a site created specifically for the discussion of

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>>140689865
I just like agitating both sides, I really dont give a fuck desu.

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>>140689960
Then stop posting off topic shit.

>>140689121
No, it means you shouldn't primarily discuss anime in those threads and that focused discussion or long off topic tangents into x anime should not be allowed outside of /a/. Anime reaction images are okay and it is foolish to expect that nobody on any board outside of /a/ likes anime, just as it is foolish to think that nobody in /a/ likes video games.

>>140690034
This image looks so simplistic I thought you were baiting at first but then I realized you weren't and it's completely legit
Strange stuff

>>140690034
I always wondering why vandals go to fucking africa why they not settle in iberia or something?

>>140690191
First off because North Africa was a really rich and fertile place, secondly they got wedged out by the Visigoths.

>>140688647

Chances are good that once TWW comes out there'll be some people around looking for multiplayer matches

Which game should i go play a campaign in?
Of the three modern ones please

>>140690537
Rome2

Why can't we get medieval 3 total war? like just medieval 2 with polished stuff and prettier terrains and units

>>140690634
That would basically be a whole new game

>>140690742
i'd buy it as long as they didnt fuck it up too much, its my favourite one unit wise

>>140690783
ikr why CA cannot make game about my favorite time period?
I will buy it

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Did CA confirm that they'll be making mini campaigns set in periods of Warhammer history? I'd love to play as the TombKeks back when they were living humans or as Sigmar's tribe.

>>140691005
Nope.

>>140691005
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War:_WARHAMMER_Future_Content_Blog

They confirmed mini-campaigns, but they are always going to come bundled with a race. The most likely first one of these is probably going to be wood elves.

>>140646943
So /TWG/.

I find myself at a quandary as to what part of my computer to upgrade so as to get the best experience for Warhammer.

Atilla runs at like 35fps on max graphics in my PC. I've got an R9 290 and an old i5 processor from like 2012.

This month I've calculated that I have about £600 disposable income after rent and living costs etc.

Would you recommend getting a shiny new CPU/motherboard or a new Graphics Card?

>>140691086
It is expected to run much better than attila.

Download more ram

>>140691005
I very much doubt they'll be mini campaigns specific to the ancient history of races that aren't in the base game.

That said, I would love to see come extra campaigns set in different parts of the world with different races/starting situations, as well as some strong narrative campaigns like what we got in Napoleon.

>>140691086
I would wait and see how it runs on your current setup before making any upgrades.

>>140691086

Wait to see how it actually runs before you buy anything at all, from the info we have it is much better optimized than Rome 2 and Atilla

>>140691086
GPU is more important but in your case probably CPU
Also running Attila on max with 35 fps is very good that means you can lover little bit and play it with 60fps and nice visuals

>>140651369

Is there something I'm missing here? Swordsmen have 30% more attack, a 16% increase in weapon strength, and 320% more charge bonus while spearmen have 28% more defence along with the anti-unit bonuses they've had since forever. How are these units the same to you?

Where is the Attila torrent. What kind of protection is up on this motherfucker?

>>140691086

Save up for pascal

144hz for this game, worth it or not? they are expensive as fuck... also I have a regular 27", but 144hz 27" is just impossible to buy, +500$

>>140692316
no need. For gods sake, no need to be on the cutting edge of tech

>>140691086
I've got a pretty good i5 and it still serves me well.
All signs point to Warhammer running better than Attila so you shouldn't really need to upgrade.

>>140692316
Dear christ no. Do you even have a card to handle that?

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>>140692332
thx, have some snake surfers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fGaBv8pAMA

>>140691813
It was around until some time ago and there's a link in this very thread you moron

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>no campaign

>>140693406
1212AD? I mean you'd rather have custom battles for the few months you'll be waiting for the campaign right...

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>>140690634
desu, I'd rather not have med3, med2 is working well enough, I want empire 2, since emp1 is fucking shit even with mods

>>140692050
Why buy Pascal when the other cards will drop in price ?

Is NTW III single player any good? LME is normally my go to mod for nappy but I can't make a decision here.

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>>140694091

Future proofing, pascal is exponentially more powerful than any previous series, better value for money in the long run.

>>140694659
We'll see when it comes out, I usually don't buy new techs on release.
Might as well wait a bit and run with a 980ti (after it drops in price) and then upgrade to the new architecture after a while

>>140694820

Yeah but then you are losing more money

>>140693891
I would rather we just get Victorian Total War.

>>140694908
Not really, I'm not him but if he's on the 980ti there's no reason to jump immediately to the Pascal flagship unless you don't care about money, but in that case your argument kinda falls flat.

>>140694997

The amount of time you would need to wait for it to not end up costing you more money would mean you would no longer be running everything at max

>>140651619
I want to do it, skeptical though. I run Attila on quality.

>>140694997
>>140694908
I don't have a 980Ti yet, only planning to get one. Honestly unless the Pascal is somewhat affordable I don't think the 980Ti will get obsolete THAT fast. I usually don't play current gen games and don't intend to (because I buy my games on steam sales).
The only """"next""""-gen game I'll play on release is Bannerlord, I think a 980Ti will handle it nicely on max/ultra everything

>>140695153
Really? I dunno about that. Even 780ti just barely is unable to run everything at 60fps max. The 980ti runs nigh anything perfectly at 1080 and even 1440. If we wait for the second Pascal we'd probably be waiting as long as we waited between the 780 and 980, and I doubt the 980ti will be unable to run anything before then. I usually skip a single generation because it seems more efficient to simply SLI if I have spare dosh than to get the next gen card and throw my old one away.

>>140695285
>>140695365

Well I guess it depends how important being able to run everything at max graphics 60 fps to you is. 980Ti works now but won't in a year or to

>>140695649
Mate I can run everything but DS III at 60 fps max on my OCd 780ti and Pascal is coming out in literal months, and DSIII is just some major bullshit.

>>140695713

DS3 is a console port, not a graphically demanding game even at max

>>140695649
>980Ti works now but won't in a year or to
You mean work to run everything at 60 fps ? I don't care much. The only "demanding" games I played these last days are TW S2 and Attila and since its strategy 30 fps or so is okay for me. Oh and I also played Hitman Absolution wich is optimized like absolute shite I think, because its far too demanding for such "okay" graphics.

>>140695713
how can you not run ds 3 on max with a 780? i have a 970 and run it on max fine

>>140695796
>30 fps or so is okay for me

>>140695796
Then why are you going for a flagship card? Get an Nvidia 9/1070 or an AMD 2/3/490 and save yourself a few hundred dollars.

>>140695842
I have no idea, I bought it, ran it with high expectations and boom 12 fps it makes no fucking sense

>>140695796
>30 fps or so is okay for me
Then get the secondary flagship not the massive hueg flagship, the 970 is literally 300 bucks less than the 980ti.

>>140692050
Where?

>>140692841
Where?

>>140696042
>>140695917
Because I prefer to run games at 60fps when possible. When the 980Ti inevitably drops in price I'll get it to run the games that came out last year or this year.

>>140696092

It comes out sometime this month

>>140696173
Seems it was last thread, my mistake.

>>140694659
So would you recommend switching out my old (even by the standards of the day) 2012 I5 CPU (which was a cheap £180 back then) for something more substantial in the weeks following WHTW's release and then hold back on the GPU until Pascal hits the stores?

I normally end the month with about £600 in disposable income after rent and bills so if I save I'm assuming a decent Pascal architecture card would be affordable?

What is your opinion about buying a new series just as it starts? Do you think there will be an awful lot of teething problems or optimisation issues? I normally buy into these things halfway through their lives because my upgrade cycle has coincided with a combination of previous shitty paid jobs and usually upgrading by sheer necessity rather than want.

>>140696567

There is literally no good reason not to wait for pascal. Even if you aren't going to buy it the price of all other cards will drop

Lads, will you be watching the greatest heroic victory of all time unfold ?

>>140695649
Total War Warhammer will have the same graphics to the forseeable future, surely? Even the third release should work fine when it comes out if the first one is alright. They are a contiguous game, after all.

This sounds like self-justification for a very expensive purchase though, I have a 970 and experience no problems at all. There might be games coming out that will give it issues, but I can't think of any that fellow understanders of strategy would be playing.

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>>140697103
forgot pic

So since the big Dragon-ogres sleep for a veeeery long time, how come they manage to be awake so long once theyre awake again?
Why do they even need to sleep that long?
And why do they serve Chaos?

Im confused is age of bronze campaign going to come out for Rome 2 or Attila

>>140697203
Literally who

>>140697203
When did football clubs actually matter? The NFL is the only football you ever need to watch, not some shitty city league.

>>140697701
>watching handegg
Nah

>not watching superior rugby

shaking my head

>>140691054
>>140691210
>>140691005
>Themed on an epic event from the Warhammer Lore

So yes Campaign packs are ingame historical events.

>>140692392
Not him but I'm also thinking of getting a 144hz 27' monitor:
>Dear christ no. Do you even have a card to handle that?
Why do you need a powerful card? I thought 144hz monitors could be vsynced at 60,75,120,144?

>>140697103
>>140697203
Go to /sp/

>>140687804
whats wrong with /co/?

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Get ready for memes lads. This is the first joke mod (I don't know if the mod maker intended it to be a joke...) I've installed.

>deus vult!
those are full gold royal huscarls

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The AI does strange things when it has a lot of units. In its defense these are multiple armies though, so I guess it's just beautifully symmetrical straight lines.

>>140694427

I like Napoleon TW3 but most of it is simply full autism.

>hurr musket were super innacurate!
>all units have 20 accuracy
>every unit moves slow as fuck
>Crashes constantly.

>>140699505
The fug
>>140699381
Is that the crusade mod

23 days bros, can't handle it anymore.

Where is my gork&mork ?

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The GROUND was filled with DED HUSCARLS and BLOOD

>>140697701

>the Premier League
>some shitty city league

Kek

>>140699654
The NFL added another league? How the hell is the Super Bowl suppose to work now?

>>140699763

>the Super Bowl
>not a glorified advert show with some sporting in between