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PREY SLAUGHTERED: >>140119156

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
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Daily reminder that Ebby-chan is still best waifu.
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>>140395268
>not Mother Kos
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>>140395268
>Disgusting tentacle monster
>Not based Djura who will take amazing care of your pets whenever you're away
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Serious question, I swear.

So those little mutant babies with Ebrietas wings in Upper Cathedral Ward and, more commonly, Isz. What exactly are they?

Are they her attempt at making children, like Kos and Oedon?
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>>140396153
>Bri
>disgusting

Opinion disregarded.

Djura a fine, but I'm not into Powder Kegs.
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>>140396232
They're called Celestial Children. In the Upper Cathedral Ward, they're all outside an orphanage. One can only assume those things used to be human babies the Church experimented on to make Kin, or experimented on pregnant women to birth Kin. My guess is they were looking to make new sources of blood should something ever happen to Ebrietas, who name, consequently enough, means 'drunkeness'. Maybe blood drunk.
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>>140396781
But then why would they be in Isz?

I always assumed pic related were the children experimented on.
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>>140396781
Why are they constantly looking towards Ebrietas?
I don't think they used to be humans.
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How the fucking fuck am I supposed to kill these cunt hunters in Yahargul? I've spent hours on these guys and have managed to only kill one. This stage is so fucking aggravating with the bell bitches and they throw three hunters at you.
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>>140396781
>>140397101
Where did they mention experiments on children?
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>>140396232
>>140396781
Don't they have the same appearance as the thing Arianna gives birth to?
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>>140397617
Try to separate them. Run up to where the Chime Maiden near the shortcut is, that should make you lose one or two. You just need to get one down, since they don't respawn.

>>140398087
Because:
1. Iosefka experiments on those people sent to her and turns them into cute little blue dudes.
2. The Church canonically experimented (Research Hall).
3. The place you fight the Celestrial Emissaries is called the Orphanage.

You put all these together and get that its very likely they experimented on the children in the Orphanage.
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>>140398273
I think Arianna's lacks the Ebrietas wings. the wings are the cutest part.
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>>140398401
The last part is wrong, the members of the Choir were the children of the orphanage, and they were human.

"Key to the Orphanage, birthplace of the Choir."
The Orphanage, shadowed by the Grand Cathedral, was a place of scholarship and experimentation, where young orphans became potent unseen thinkers for the Healing Church.
The Choir, that would later split the Healing Church, was a creation of the Orphanage."
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>>140397101
Living Failures/Celestial Emissaries are, I think, successful experiments to make contact with Great Ones. They were once people, as evidenced by the patients in the Research hall will strange, swollen heads and long, thin limbs. Basically, cosmic walkie talkies, mediation between the mundane and preternatural. They are emissaries on behalf of humanity.

>>140398087
>>140398273
That's the thing - we find celestial children at places where children are a focus: the Orphanage and beside the once pregnant Arianna. Those things are kids, whether once human or not themselves, I think they come, ultimately, from humans.

>>140398401
>3. The place you fight the Celestrial Emissaries is called the Orphanage.

That's the Lumenflower Garden, that's something else. The little slug babies outside the big gate shortcut are the celestial children.
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I'm not sure how many of you guys are familiar with the series but I came across some of my old Vampire Hunter D books and thought it would be neat to do a build designed around D. I'm gonna go skl/blt but I haven't done a build like that so I'm wondering what my origin should be and how to allocate my stats. Any help is much appreciated.
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I think it's literally called an Orphanage because they took those babby bri-bris from Isz while they were in there to study back in Yharnam, and literally (literally) are orphans kept in a (literal) orphanage
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what these threads any more

isn't bborne dead
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>tfw haven't fired up BB in like three weeks

Anyone want some co-oppe?
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I am bad at video games, can anyone help a dude beat dancer early? I will pay you handsomely. I need that greatlance.
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>>140399871
You know, I think that might be a possibility.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best, after all.

I kind of feel bad for killing them now.
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Post best boy.
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>>140400279
Let me level up and I'll put down my summon sign, pass?
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>>140398087
Those guys were total pricks they did it
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>>140400604
>best boy will never pray for you to be granted eyes
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>>140400013
Are you lost, friend?
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>>140400768
bbgbutt
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>>140400015
If you want some dungeon crawling, I'm stuck at a boss.

Ailian Loran layer one outside the fog door
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>>140401074
Those guys are the children of the orphanage.
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>>140401321
Gibe pass
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>>140401215
and place your sign by the first bonfire.
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>>140401215
My sign is right outside her door, friend
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>>140401462
Which one exactly? What's it called?
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>>140401416
fun
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>>140394989
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>140401864
OK, I created the dungeon, ringing near the levered door
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>>140401837
It doesn't matter now I'm at the gate, place dat shit.
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>>140401936
I'm there!
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>>140401931
The thing before the fog door? That you have to open?
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>>140402310
Yeah, just opened it. I'm near the boss door now.
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>>140402061
Not seeing it, where is it precisely?
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>>140401151
no i am kos

or kosm
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>>140402379
kk sorry for the delay
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>>140402420
Just a few feet from her door, it's a white summon sign
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ty anon
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>>140402493
>calling yourself Kos first
>not Kosm

You're a fake. I know a fake when I read one.
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>>140402493
Then you know what to do.
The same thing you did with the vacuous Rom.
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>>140402582
It just ain't showing up.
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>>140403070
GRANT
US
EYES
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>>140402932
No problem, I like stunlocking him with BSE
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>>140403106
I'll reset my machine, if it doesn't, you try and rest, sometimes it helps.
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Does anyone want to help me with darkbeast Paarl?

Pass is bbg4

Sitting on a path near an NPC summon.
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>>140404680
omw
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Was Caryll a plip plop, or was Caryll the overseer of the plip plop experimentation?
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>>140404680
Coming
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Why is the hunter's dream so comfy?
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Who wants to help me fight Rom i am getting fucked up hard over and over again.

Password is vg45
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>>140405160
coming
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>>140404998
To lure the Hunter into a false sense of security.
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>>140405212
Thanks m8
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Thank you, great help to me.
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>>140405160
room for a third?
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Did you get Dancer?
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Thanks guys for the help with rom
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>>140405268
This.

That or Moon Presence really just appreciates a good, comfy place for cuddling, just like everyone else.
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Dancerbro, did you beat her?
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>>140406171
Moon Presence a best
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>>140406964
I agree. There's not nearly enough Moon Presence cuddling art in existence.

Or Orphan cuddling art. I just want to be his mommy.
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>>140404998
Until it's on fucking fire. I think I want to NG+ plus just so it can be comfy again
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chalice bsb is a shitter. Send help
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Guys, what should I save up on before starting NG+
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>>140408443
Nothing, really. Everything in your stores carries over and you actually have access to new things (like Tier 5 Ritual Blood). I guess if you want to be super anal, you can save a few hundred Echos each by capping out your Vials, since their price slightly goes up in NG+.

I'd say just be sure you get the two Blood Rocks and the Arcane gem.
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Can someone help with the byrgenworth area? I'm lost.

Pass is bbg5, sitting at the lamp
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>>140408115
pass?
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>>140408862
bbg
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That was some spooky shit. Is level 50 too low for this area?
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>>140408862
Also it's Ailing Loran 2nd level
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>>140409479
Are you Byrgenwerth Anon?

Byrgenwerth is one of my favorite areas in the game.
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>>140408862
You on your way senpai
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>>140409985
idk why its taking so long
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>>140409985
ok it should work now
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>>140410061
BB channeling DS3's shitty pw system?
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thank you for your help with rom
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Who's the best all bosses speed runner no glitches to watch? I've never played this game but I want to see how it is cause I love Souls games.
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>doing my first Isz Chalice
>randomly get teleported by the Messengers halfway through the first level

W-what the fuck was that?
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Uh guys what happens if I wish for a world without fire?
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>>140410848
I'm not sure, I don't want speedruns, but to kill literally every boss you'd need to go through Chalices as well, so a speedrun is deceptively long. I'd recommend watching some of the Defiled Chalice runs, though, those are what make you git gud, as a player, since they half your HP. Defiled Amygdala is generally considered one of the harder bosses in the game until you learn to bait.

>>140410946
The higher level chalices start having more frequent traps. just wait until you see the new abilities the eye-stealing witches have.
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>>140410946
Just a prank
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>>140408748
What about blood stone chunks, I won't be able to get them until 3/4 through the game.

There's almost no easy farm
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>>140412009
Grand Cathedral Werewolves. Cainhurst Gargoyles.
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>>140412559
Upper Cathedral Ward Werewolves sorry.
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>>140412009
Chalice dungeons
You'll be drowning in all sorts of upgrade mats and echoes when you do those
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>>140411535
you get the option to choose the second ending after the final boss
you don't commit to anything immediately
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>>140414527
Ah okay.

That's if I can beat Jimmy 'Lol 2nd Health Bar' McLightningspam in the first place.
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Any goobers need help? Or run around a dungeon somewhere?
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>>140415563
YES, I've been stuck on Ebriatas for hours. Tried at least 30 times. Not sure how to set up a pass or anything though, never done that.
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>>140416467
>system
>network

Set up pass, i'll be at the fog door
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>>140416467
>System
>Network
>Set Matchmaking to Worldwide
>Make a matching password, set any password you like (e.g. bbg123)
>Ring your Beckoning Bell, anyone with that same password and in your general vicinity will be summoned

BAM you're off to the races.
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>>140416467
Tonitrus or Bolt paper.

When she charges the big arcane attack, run around her.
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>>140416673
Alright, pass is bbg. Sorry, I'm a shitter and awful at this game.
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>>140416872
That's okay it's what we're here for, I'm ringing
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That was my bad, I'll ring if you didn't get her.
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Shit, I'm out of bolt paper
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Noo, she was dead anon! Dead!
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>>140417627
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So close, dammit
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Ringing
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>>140417837
I don't get it
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That fucking laser, every time.
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Soul of Cinder is bullshit.
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sorry, anon I have to go to work. I'll be going all sorts of pissed off though. I never once got flatted by that bitch I need an ativan
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I'm going to try this one more time. Went through my supply of blood vials.

>>140419090
Thanks anyway.
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>>140419226
You the anon fighting bribri? I'll join in if you're still ringing, I love fighting her
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>>140419586
I actually just beat her, but thanks.
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Some need a hand with a boss here? Bribri? I have just the trick to kill her macaroni ass.
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>>140418073
Let me spell it for you
D O L L _ C L O T H E S
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>>140420113
Sure! I could use help on Laurence
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I need BB steam avatars, help me out.

>>140420503
I might just use this one desu
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>>140420931
On my way, dude, need to cleanse my pallet after the joke that is DaS3.
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>>140420931
pass?
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>>140421648
Password is shame, bby

At the fog
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>>140421095
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>>140422174
yeah depends on how fast >>140420113 is
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>>140421757
>>140422332
Sorry about that, I'm ringing right now.
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How does multiplayer work in this game? If I'm looking for some help, what do I do? How about creating a password to get specific people in?
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Can someone help with the yahargul area?
Password is bbg6
Waiting at the lamp.
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>>140422526
Laurence is ded
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ty I hated the lava phase shit.

>>140422553
Ring your bell to look for help,
Go to settings>Network to setup a password.

Do you need help with something?
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What should I do after sicking the murderous psychopath on the old woman in the Church Of the Floor Fag? The door in the church lead to nothing, and the Shadows of Yharnam are gay
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>>140422690
omw
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>>140422719
Well shit. Sorry I took so long, glad you got him, though.
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>>140422690
The village lamp?

I'm cominggg
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>>140422790
The Shadows are gay.

Go to Cainhurst
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Oh fuck, I got grabbed by an amygdala
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>>140422778
No, just curious. How do I invade? Just use the red bell?
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>>140423203
Yup but it really only works best in some areas
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>>140423063
Which way is Cainhurst again? Is that in the Nightmare?
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lamo
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>>140423296
Does where I ring either bell change who will show up or where I'll go?
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>>140423315
You have to find the Cainhurst summons and go back to the witch area by the executions there's a big stone and some nice horses will take you there
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>>140423505
You'll always be in that location that you rung in
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>>140423693
alright thanks
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Just finished DaS3.

I don't think I've ever been so dissatisfied with a videogame ending before. That sure what 70 didgeridoos wasted.
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>>140423908
I don't know what you were even expecting, none of these games have a satisfying ending on the surface.
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>>140424017
The ending I got just seemed like a cop out. For the end of a series, I expected closure.

Not: well there's darkness for now but don't worry! Flames will appear again, so this doesn't even matter, good job.
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>>140423201
Oh Amygdala, oh Amygdala, have mercy on the poor bastard.
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Any cool ideas for builds? I've done pure str and pure skill and I started an arcane build that I never finished but since DaS3 is getting kinda stale I want to try something new in BB
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>>140424193
I can agree with you in that regard, though this isn't the end of the series. Miyazaki said like 5 years down the line he might let someone else at from make a follow up in a recent interview. But all the same none of the endings have a sense of finality at all, especially after the boss before it really felt like it was the end of everything. Maybe there should have been a level after fighting them instead, I dunno.
m-maybe the dlc will add a better ending like das2 did
actually that's probably exactly what they're gonna pull.
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When my str and vit is at 50 I should stop leveling those up and start putting points into others?
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Anyone up for Abhorrent Beast in Ailing
Loran third layer?
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>>140423789
So I'll show up as an invader/friend in the same area but another nightmare?
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>>140425175
sure, give me a pass
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Can you still glitch Orphan of Kos out? I'm wanting to take some screenshots of him standing around if I can. Not sure if you can freeze him in place still when you whack him after a parry.
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Yahargul anon here, at the lamp past the laser alien
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>>140425316
I don't know what you mean by another nightmare but you'll be in their world. :)
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>>140419015
he's actually the hardest final boss in the series in my opinion
not like the final bosses are very hard in general but still
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>>140425551
mico

At the fog door baby.
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>>140425824
Now I'm not sure if you're being cute.
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>>140425807
Take the hunters one by one, let us know when you're at the next boss.
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>>140424774
Absolutely, yes. Get your End to 20, 25 even because of strength weapons taking a little more. 50 is the softcap for Strength, you get barely anything out of levelling it afterwards.

If you're just doing PvE and don't care about builds, put points into whatever.
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>>140425965
Well I am cute but like I said you'll be in their world.
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>>140424698
Aww hell no son

I didn't pay €70 out the wazoo to pay more. DaS3 didn't make me care enough.
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>>140426435
But their world is a nightmare!
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Mother of fuck.

Please come again
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>>140426969
I'm ringing
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>>140426126
I think I might take end to 30 because I'm close, I'm feeling arcane so many cool shit I'm locked out of cause muh skill
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>>140424562
Bloodtinge.
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>>140426516
Our world is a nightmare anon
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>>140422690
Did you manage to beat the The One Reborn?
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>>140427663
Yes, thank you for your help once again. Much appreciated.
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>>140426969
Do you need extra help?
In case you do.
Where are you at? Whats the pass?
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>>140427925
I got it thanks to a Good Hunter but thanks anon
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I need one, count it one Ritual Blood (5) so I can get into Isz
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>>140428349
Oh God fuck that

The grinding for shit really is some of thenworst.
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>>140428349
Fortunately, the store sells them in NG+.

Ritual Blood 4 will probably more of a problem for most people, since you need to beat the Queen to unlock it.
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>>140430249
I can farm (4) easily.

Anything I should save up on before NG+ ?
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>>140430938
Nah, everything is available to you now in the shop is available at the start of NG+, especially since you've done enough Chalices to need Ritual Blood (5). And if you really need something, you can rush Amelia, which will basically unlock the entire world for you.

Just be sure to get the rock in Mensis and the DLC.
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>>140431562
...Yes, and?
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>>140431562
Looks like you were both lagging pretty hardcore, shitty win.
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>>140432079
Nothing
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>>140425925
I thought Gehrman was tougher if you didn't resort to parry cheese. SoC is definitely tougher than gwyn though
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>>140431264
The rock in The Old Hunters is before The Orphan of Kos at the path with the frenzy assholes right?
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>>140432361
Parrying is hard with that old coot
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>>140433438
Yeah opposite of the Sharks.
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PSA that poise is completely turned off in DS3 game files if you haven't yet heard.
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>>140434535
>those oneshots
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>>140434535
>Host of Embers
>Gehrman
>helping First Hunter filth
>ever
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What are the runes that can only be found in chalice dungeons ?
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>>140436586
The top tier one in pretty much every category.

http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Caryll+Runes
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So I haven't been here since early January but is the low activity due to DS3 coming out recently or has the player count been dropping?
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Anyone wanna help me with The Orphan of Kos tonight?
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So I just killed the one reborn. At what point should I do chalice dungeons? How do they work?
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>>140437298
DS3
They will return to the dream, as was foretold.
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>>140437507
Will you be by the fog and whats the pass?
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>>140437298
DaS3 but bbg has always been a bit slow due to it being a PS4 exclusive
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>>140437559
I made the mistake of finishing all my Chalice dungeons and farming before I beat the final boss, and I felt like I ruined the final boss for myself. I was just stupidly overpowered.

Don't make my mistake. You should probably toy around with levels 1-3 now, maybe a few 4s. Either wait for 5 until NG+ or wait until you've beaten Gehrman.

As for how they work, you find materials in them and you just progress through them like a normal dungeon. Don't bother with the Root versions until you've the level 5 chalices. Check the info in the OP; there's an image in that Chalice section that gives you a speedrun walkthrough of it. It's a bit outdated with some old info, but it still works.
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>>140437298
It's been picking back up a bit lately, actually. We're seeing a lot more co-op requests and general posting, and DaS3 discussion is dying down.
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>>140437762
I'm giving him the old college try a few more times and then getting beer.

So maybe in twenty mintues
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>>140438114
Was the majority of bbg a bit disappointed with DaS3?
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>>140437878
>>140438114
Man, that's good to hear. I know both groups tend to be hostile towards one another and even though I do prefer the souls games over BB, this general is a million times friendlier and helpful to its players.
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>>140438348
Yeah, it seems like many of us were disappointed with it. I think, like BB, it'll end up a lot more enjoyable 6 months from now once it's been patched, though.
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>>140438656
yeah /dsg/ is trash, it's literally just a bigger /v/ Souls thread
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Do we have any draw or writefags left in this thread?

I'm a writefag specializing in HumanxNon-human willing to trade for some FemHunterxMicolash art or writing.
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>>140440060
Writefag here. I don't know how I would do Micolash without memeing. I don't even want anything in return, I just kinda want to write Micolash smut.
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>>140440060
>>140440867
Kosm was this a thing?
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>>140440867
Well, he has an Augur of Ebrietas. Tentacles can be involved, or if you want to go full kink, so can eyes.

He can also be romantic and compare said partner to the stars or Kosm.

. . .Or you can have him basically worshiping a 3-Umbelical core ingested hunter as a God.

His cage can probably be used somehow, too.

I'm sorry Anon, I'm a terrible person.
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Anyone wanna come fight Ebby? Pass is kosm.

>>140441028
Why wouldn't it be a thing? Micolash is majestic, anon.
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>>140441356
On my way, anon.
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>>140441356
I'll come is the chalice dungeon one?
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>>140441475
Gotta get through UCW, so take your time.
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>>140441519
Story Ebby.
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>>140441528
Chilling outside the fog whenever you're ready.
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>>140441847
>died to Celestial Ayy
Damn, maybe I am a little low level.
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>>140442835
Can help you out with that too if you like.
Any excuse for coop.
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>>140442916
Sure. Ringing at fog.
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Ringing at the fog for Ebby, sweet child of Kosm.
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Majestic kill.

Thanks Blaze and Marie.
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>>140443895
Anytime, comrade.
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With vit and str at 50 should I pour more into skill? It's at 30
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>>140445149
Arcane mitebgood if you plan on continuing to level. Strength+Arcane builds are fun.
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>>140445326
That's what i was thinking, I wanna do the squid arm.

And just so I understand 50 is the soft cap for str and vit there's no reason to put more points into them?
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>>140445537
I know you really don't need more than 50 in Vitality. Not sure the soft cap in Strength, but if it's like every other stat, then yes, it's also 50.

Arcane is really the only thing that benefits from going to 99 because Hunter Tools continue to scale.
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So /bbg/, is it possibly to play as a muscle wizard? Strength and Arcane alone, what would be a good gear set up? Moonlight sword of course, but what else? What tools would be essential muscle wizard tools?
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>>140447626
Whirligig is good.
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>>140447626
Str and Arc is honestly the best build
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>>140447626
ayy lmao is all you'll ever need

>fighting with a weapon instead of your tentacles
>current year of our lord Oedon
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>nothing personnell
>kid....
What kind of fag spawn camps the beginning of the game to pwn newbies?
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now I don't have to play this anymore
im glad its over
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Can an anon help with Kos?

Password is fox
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>>140450252
Ringing outside the fog.
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Bless you anon.

Never made it far enough to see that lightning, whew
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>>140450252
you need PS+ for that right?
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>>140451274
Not him, but that Lightning is pretty easy to dodge. You want to fight Orphan out in the ocean and unlock when he does the scream for it. The Lightning hits Kos's corpse and one set of bolts will head to your location. So when he does this attack, stand there and wait until it hits, then sprint (or, if you're far enough away from Kos's corpse, you can just run) in the left or right direction.

The Lightning is honestly one of those attacks that is easier to deal with as long as Orphan doesn't attack you at the same time as he screeches.
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>>140451748
Both parties participating in online co-op must have PS+, as that is the subscription that must be payed to access online services.
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>>140451274
>>140451831
Even better, run to the entrance of the arena and the lightning straight up can't touch you, doesn't reach that far. You can also just dodge through it, too.
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>>140449019
Trudging through the game myself to beat it and shelf it. I feel like I need to to get my moneys worth. How long did it take you to beat it?
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>>140451748
Correct, never bothered with it until I got BB

>>140451831
I was able to dodge it fuck it's one hell of AOE

>>140452008
I think fighting him in the sea is better, lots do i think. It was like my fifth or six try until I realized I could do it, which makes it a fantastic area, it's huge.
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Can we agree that Decorative Old Hunters Trousers are the best legs? They're the most /fa/ besides maybe Lady qt's

If not, put in your two cents~
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>>140453064
I like Black Church Skirt for legs.

Yahar'Gul body a best. Female Yharnam Hunter attire a fine too.
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>>140453335
Couldn't never get into Yahar'Gul set sadly.

But my main is a grill so I enjoy the skirts.
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/bbg/

What drug pairs the best with Bloodborne? I say opiates
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>>140453649
Jenkem
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>>140453793
If only
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Fighting the Moon. any tips?
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>>140431562
>BKGA has a regular R1 > R1 stunlock like every other weapon in DkS3
>Not its DkS1 odd R1 > R1 stunlock where its upward cut couldn't combo into the downward one, but the downward cut could combo into the upward one.
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>Dark Edge
Holy shit, how has this not gotten a nerf yet?

>>140454646
Cuddle. That's all it wants, Anon.
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>>140454646
shoot it.
even if you miss, you'll fuck up the stars.

I think thats how the quote goes.
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>>140454646
If it sits in one spot for a long time, zip your chikage back up.
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Nevermind.

I'ma qt lil squid guys! :DD
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>>140455356
Congrats Anon!
Remember to treat your mommy well.
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>>140455530
aww

/r/ing more Good Squid and Doll together.
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>>140455603
I have a lot of it, but even still I wish there was more.
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>>140456234
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>>140456393
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Is password matchmaking restricted by NG/NG+?
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>>140456712
Nope.
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>>140456712
No, I do not think so.
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>>140456868
>>140456885
Thanks anons, to NG+ I go!
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>>140457027
Just got to NG+ too buddy!
Can't wait to fight Father G again.

Ring if you need help.
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>>140456393
>>140456672
>>140456868
>>140457157
Thank you anon these make my heart warm.

>>140456234
And here's my new steam avatar
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Can someone help me out in Pthumeru Layer 3 to kill the Watchdog?

Password is awoo
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>>140447626
Don't forget glorious wheel
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>>140458386
Ringing, buddy.
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Lore question
If Maria is found in the Hunter's Nightmare then that must mean she died at some point in the waking world correct?
If that is correct then how did she die since I don't think she'd die of old age considering she was a Cainhurst noble
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>>140458576
Thanks, buddy.
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You guys weren't kidding about the Old Hunters DLC.

I love it, but holy fuck is it overwhelming. I'm trying to lure hunters to other enemies just hoping they'll all kill each other while I watch, but eventually one will just sneak up and murder me while his friend gets his ass ripped open by the Grand Central Cathedral giant.

What level/equipment should I work towards for Ludwig?
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>>140458867
You can see her grave just after the clocktower.

I believe she commit suicide, but I can't remember what item in-game gave me that impression. Rakuyo, maybe, since it mentions her shame.
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>>140459221
Well, it's an end-game area, so, 70 or so is likely what it's intended to be played at. The last boss has assloads of health, though, and really seemed designed to be played after you do Chalice farming for gems.
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>>140459221
What level are you now?
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>>140458867
When you find her in the Astral Clocktower she's sitting on a chair atop a puddle of blood with blood dripping from her wrists.
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>>140460280
She cut her throat, look at her jacket
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>>140459878
Level 77

Pretty much put all my echoes into strength and endurance. Didn't really get into the Souls games before so I didn't know what a good build would be.
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>>140460789
A strength build is pretty safe in BB, you should be good. I would recommend you play around a bit in Chalices, just for the sake of the experience, though. Chalices, even the preset ones, made me a better player overall and I don't think I could have beaten the DLC without them.

Ludwig has a cheat, though, so you'll be okay for him if you're absolutely hating life.
If you equip the Impurity rune, you can summon two NPCs, Valtr and the the Madaras butcher dude. Don't bother with Henriette who is also nearby. Valtr alone is a fucking beast, but with the second NPC you'll wipe the floor with him.
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>>140462408
Valtr is really only a beast in eater mode though.
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>Chalice Rom
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>>140462756
I went to Ludwig in NG+ with the NPCs just to fuck around and the two of them together stunlocked Ludwig in phase 1 and both tanked phase 2 for me.

I was actually amazed at how strong the NPCs were when there's more than one of them.

The only battles I really found harder with NPCs were Camerabeast and Yharnam.
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>>140463026
CRF Rom is literally my least favorite thing in the game. I'm terrible at Rom anyway shut up, we all have bosses were shit at, but in CRF? Dinked by a spider - you're dead.
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Hello. I'm stuck.

The last two bosses I've beaten are the two witches and Vicar Amelia and I touched the skull on her pedestal.

Where do I go now?
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>>140464082
You go read the OP.

>Where to go next in BB
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>>140464082
Do you want to do optional content, or just progress with the story?

If you've not done optional content yet, here's a list of what's available to you:
Old Yharnam
Hemwick Lane - definitely, absolutely go here.
Lecture Hall - Worth it for being a great farming place.
Workshop - There's a pretty big secret here.
Hypogean Gaol - Hard area. Fun, though, and creepy as fuck.
Cainhurst Castle - do this last, if you can find it.


If you want to contnue with the game and ignore the optional content, you need to head to the plaza in Cathedral Ward. One of the side paths here leads to a dead end door with Alfred, who will dump some important exposition on you.

At the end of this, you'll find the door to the next area.
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>>140464082
Do you remember the door nearby the brainsucker that asked for a password? Do you remember how after you touched the skull you saw a cutscene?

They're unrelated.
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Can someone help in Isz layer 3?
password is duck
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>>140464883
I beg you
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>>140465112
What's your build?

NPC Damian+Arcane build tricked Tonitrus literally stunlocked her to death faster than normal mode Ebby-chan.
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>>140465289
It's okay, sorry I shited up the thread.
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>>140465520
No, it's fine. People have problems with her depending on build, I was just hoping to give some advice.
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>>140463317
Hey, that's okay I have the worst time with base game Rom let alone spooky Rom.
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>>140464192
>>140464370
>>140464558
Sorry first time to post here and thanks.
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>>140464370
>Old Yharnam
>Hemwick Lane - definitely, absolutely go here.
>Lecture Hall - Worth it for being a great farming place.
>Workshop - There's a pretty big secret here.
>Hypogean Gaol - Hard area. Fun, though, and creepy as fuck.
>Cainhurst Castle - do this last, if you can find it.


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>>140467068
I even forgot one!

Nightmare Frontier.
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I'm worried about making Eileen hostel in our fight.
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>>140468178
its always risky. what i try to do is let her agro henryk, then visceral attack him from behind over and over, because then you do a lot of damage and he cant attack her and you cant accidentally hit her.

has worked for me for the last few characters i did.
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>>140466540
Nah it's fine. Just don't come back until you've finished at least one run-through of the game, otherwise you're bound to catch ten or twenty spoilers.
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>>140468268
Can she die in the fight? How many hits to agro her? Like this sucks
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Can someone explain Lost & Uncanny weapons to me?
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>>140468624
uhh idk. i don't have like a method down, just a general strategy.

yes she can die, shes pretty tough though so as long as you don't let her solo henryk you'll probably be fine.

its stressful but honestly it'll probably be fine.

just dont hit her too much and you need to stay aggressive on henryk.

keep his attention but when he does turn to eileen, visceral him.

and watch out coz he hits like a truck.
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>>140468624
I'd recommend throwing some poison knives on him.
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>>140468873
Would it be better or worse if I summoned a friend?

My 1st playthrough I attacked her like a dumbass it's the only side quest I've yet to do so I want it to work
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>>140468268
Just use poison attacks and untricked saw spear or something else with next to no range.
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>>140469028
Pretty sure you can't summon for it. If you're any good you can charge right to Henryk after talking to Eileen to fuck him up so that by the time Eileen shows up she can kill him in a hit or two.

>mfw first playthrough she told me to stay out of it, so I did
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>>140468702
they just have different shaped gem slots than the regular versions of weapons.

thats it. you find them in chalice dungeons.

sometimes you want lost or uncanny versions of things, but often not. just depends on your build and what gems you want.
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>>140469418
Post some of you getting your ass handed to you, please.
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>>140468624
Two words: poison knives.
Three knives in old 'Ryk and Eileen has it from there.
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>>140469481
There were too many to fit on the hard drive
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I've reached a breaking point. I just can't seem to beat Defiled Amy, I don't know why I'm having so much trouble. I just want to reach the Pthumerian Queen.
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>>140470902
just circle around the edge of the arena, bait her into doing head slams, run in when she does and hit her head while shes laying on the ground, rinse wash and repeat 1000 times and dont get hit when she starts doing magic slams.
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>>140471819
Should've urned and pellet'd too.
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>>140471819
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can someone link me TOH screenshots from 360 guy http://imgur.com/a/p2Y9s
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Can someone explain what the fuck happened after Rom?

It doesn't seem completely hallucinatory, because you end up teleported to Yahar'Gul, but at the same time it's basically just a mindfuck scene. unless that's all it's supposed to be.
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>>140472480
You're starting to see the truth behind reality
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>>140473113
Well, yes, but why were you teleported? Whoever did it specifically knew what was in Yahar'Gul.

Did Yharnam do it? Or possibly MP in order to guide you in the right direction?
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Curious. What happens in the Research Hall if you raise the stairs without having opened the elevator up for use?
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>>140472480
>>140473256
Rom was the one powering the veil that kept everything hidden/locked away. You kill Rom, and the Moon can descend fully and suddenly you can see Yharnam.

The teleportation was more likely MP pushing you along the path.
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Anyone looking for PS4 higher level friendly PvP in DS3 should drop a red summon sign at the Central Irithyll bonfire, a few people from dsg are playing including myself.
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I just checked my watch and it turns out it's Maria o'clock.

Password is bully
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>>140475531
Ringing, i want to bully.
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>>140475814
Never gets old.
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6 playthroughs into this game and I'm only just discovering how broken paper+beastblood with saw spear is.
I thought it was just early game against BSB and Amelia and then it'd fall off but nope, every boss I've fought dies in seconds. Ebrietas was especially funny.
Since I got some gems off the mensis brains it's only gotten even crazier and the rape train shows no sign of stopping.
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Can someone help with the Nightmare Frontier? This place is too spooky to go alone.

Pass is bbg7, waiting at the lamp.
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Not doing a lot of damage with my moonlight sword. Went 25 str 50 arc, 598 AR. Should I level arc to 99
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>>140478863
Thank you famygdala.
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So wait. Can I not be invaded in this game without opening myself up to co-op?

I want to play through the game like I would any other Souls game, with a constant fear of being invaded. Apparently I can't do that without running the risk of some faggot joining my game and trying to hold my hand.
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>>140480084
Ring your sinister bell and then silence it. That opens you up to invasions without co-op.
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>>140480128
Oh that makes sense. Wonderful.
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>>140480423
No problem. Expect me to invade your ass in Mensis.
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>>140478471
Beast Blood is pretty much straight PvP cheese. I usually don't use it when soloing bosses because it isn't very fair to them, it really ramps up your damage output and cheapens the fight. That said if some low level bbg baddie summons me for ludwig I am partial to popping one.
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>>140470902
I would wait for her to do some attacks, then take a few swings at her arms. Not much damage, but you can break her arms, opening up opportunities for getting at the head if she never slams it down.

It only gets really hard once she rips her upper arms off. The only way I found to handle that was to stay uncomfortable close to her, force her to jump, roll at the right time to evade damage, and take two swings at one of her arms. Rinse, repeat, pray to God she doesn't hit cause if she does you're dead as fuck.
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>>140453064
Crowfeather, black church, student.
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>>140453064
Nope. Henryk's Trousers are the best legs.
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>>140473814
You can't
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Hey guys, doing a str build, how many points should i put into end? I read the cap was 40, but do i need that much? Also for my next char I'm thinking doing a cliche skl/blt evelyn/chikage build. What's a good stat template for that? Thanks in advance fellow hunters.
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>>140484405
You really don't have to put any into End. I put 40 into it because I had blood echoes just laying around gathering dust and my current character will never be doing any co-op or PvP.
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>>140484405
20 is enough.
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>>140484835
>>140484839
Cool, thanks gents. It's my first playthrough so i wanted to waste as few levels as possible
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>the boss that everyone says is easy as shit but you died to anyway

What's his name /bbg/? For me it's Living Failures. The metors got me good.
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>>140486372
Micolash in NG+.
A Call Beyond really hurts.
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>>140486746
Are you me? I just did the fight and got my ass kicked.

Granted, I got back up and just stayed close enough to him that he couldn't get it off, but still. Wake up call.
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Holy shit I must be the worst player ever. I died 4 times to the failures now after beating Ludwig on my second try. What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>140487161
They can be tricky with the magic and they do hit pretty darn hard. People talk them down a lot but you have to be careful.
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>>140489450
I eventually got them after losing 200k blood echoes because I fell off on my way back to the boss room.
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>>140489523
Echoes are nothing in BB, once you hit the chalice dungeons you will be wondering what to do with all of them.
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>>140468706
The jump attack from the beast claws + rune can set up for a back stab?

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww mane
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>>140489568
I'm like level 340 on my PvE character in like NG+10 and even though it costs around a 1.1 million per level now I still have enough from doing an area + boss WITHOUT any Moon Runes on to level, they really did a good job of balancing it in this one
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>>140489820
Mind posting your build? What did you do? everything to softcaps, Arcane to 99, and then HP to 99? That's how I'd imagine leveling a char like that.
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>>140489608
The ayyylmao can do the same.
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>>140489820
How do chalice dungeons work? I have no idea how to set them up.
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>>140490408
Did you beat the Bloodstarved Beast and Amygdala? You should be able to go for it from there
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>>140490368
Right now
HP: 65
End: 45
Strength: 70
Skill: 70
Bloodtinge: 63
Arcane: 80

Arc scales to 99, End reached its softcap at 40, Vitality is only giving like 9 hp per level now, Skill and Strength still giving 1-2 extra damage per level on most weapons when accounting for gems, Arcane scales all the way to 99, and Bloodtinge I don't use much but at the level it's at the Blunderbuss can kill Yharnamite dudes in Central Yharnam in 2-3 shots, or some critters like dogs in two shots, averages around 500.

>>140490408
You don't know how to set them up as in make one? Or how to connect with other people? What part are you unclear on?
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>>140490774
I mentiond Arc twice but I meant to add that enemy damage will scale with your HP some. It helps you survive poison and stuff more and other fixed damage but since Vials scale too, it's not so bad. But still, enemy attack damage will scale with your HP, I don't know how much but some things will ALWAYS do 30% damage to my hp from certain enemies, etc.
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>>140490774
Nice. Yeah Endurance hard caps at 40, you will never get another point of stamina out of it. I was surprised looking it up that you go from 1500 to 1900 HP from 50-99, that is a pretty decent increase. Maybe one day I'll do a level 99 arcane character for those massive Call Beyonds. Also it'd be interesting to see how powerful Blacksky eye, EG, and other tools are at that level.
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>>140491670
One of the spreadsheets in the OP should give you a pretty good idea on how much they do at 99
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>>140491670
Your arcane tools start to get really strong, even though I'm only at 80 Accursed Brew and A Call Beyond can do some very good damage.

Executioner Gloves are supposed to be cheesy in general but I just spam them some times to beat story Amygdala easily. The Augur is also really reliable and great for getting fast and easy backstabs, especially on the Orphan.

But I think last time I saw, going from 45 to 46 Endurance would get me one more stamina, but that's not much and you would only get like 1 more point every 6 levels or so by that, so it's better to stop at 40. I was leveling everything up in increments of 5 to keep it looking pretty however.
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Can someone help with the nightmare of mensis? Getting fugged pretty hard.

Pass is bbg8, waiting at the lamp.
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>>140493709
omw
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>>140486372
It's living failures for me too.
If you get to them before you've got a maxed weapon or good runes they fuck me up everytime.
Yeah I'm sure they're very easy over there in "dead in a single combo land" but when they can actually retaliate I get straight fucked.
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>>140493963
Thank you once again.
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>>140495517
ah you got him?
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>>140495606
Yeah. Could you come to Mergo's loft: middle?
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>>140495803
do you wanna get the moon runes while we're at it?
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>>140496071
Sure
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>>140496190
do you wanna do Upper Cathedral Ward instead in the meantime?
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Anyone here want to jolly co-op the first boss in the Nioh demo?
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>>140486746
same here.

getting one shooted by the fucking ebrietas tentacles

fuck
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>>140497936
I would love to since Nioh's going to be the next BB at the rate it's going, but you can't meet up with individual people though, you just randomly meet up with someone

unless I'm completely missing something about the matchmaking
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>>140501371
Damn that's a shame. It's a lot of fun. More fun than DaS3 for me, maybe because the souls formula feels new again. Fun ass demo though, maybe at launch they will have a better co-op system in place.
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>>140495027
Don't be salty, Anon, it's not a good look.
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>pitch fork in DS3 again

AWAY AWAY BUILD IS IMMINENT

ILL MAKE YOU PROUD BBG

>make hairy dude
>get it and the torch
>spam the HEY gesture
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>>140501371
>>140497936
Can someone give me a rundown on Nioh, because fuck it's a lot to take in. I feel like the game needs slightly more tutorial before thrusting you into things like it does.

Hell, I didn't even know the attack buttons when I fought the first bandit. It's really only luck I found the dodge and strike commands and avoided death.

What's the point of the different stances? It seems like it's just different speeds for different damages, but i'm not sure if they affect anything else.

Getting stunlocked seems like a big deal. Is there any way to avoid it, outside of not getting hit? Because I'll have a good fight going, and then suddenly i'm clipped by one attack and a basic mob will combo me from 100 to 0 without me being able to escape.

What's up with the blue particle effects and odd blink dodge that seems to happen sometimes during fights? I think i picked up somewhere that it's called a ki pulse, but i don't fucking know. I can trigger the dodge reliably, but I don't know if there's a reason to.

Do dodges have i-frames, or are you supposed to be ducking in and out of your enemies effective range and around their attacks? Because every time some instinct kicks in and I do what feels like a good dodge through a swing, it clips me and I get combo'd to death.

How limited are the healing items? I have three, and I don't know if they're consumable or if they refresh on death or resting like estus.
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If you leave Ludwig's head alive in the boss arena, does anything happen to it later on? I already know you can talk to him (and if you wear a "churchly" garb, get special dialogue), but if you completed the entirety of Old Hunters without killing him, what happens?
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>>140503637
He dies anyway thanks to a certain hunter.
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>>140503637
he sleeps

or simon kills him
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>>140503637
You can stick a pole up the neck and ride him like a lil wooden horse
transformation attack is his head serving as long hammer and whenever you smash something he spouts memes and makes horse noises
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>>140502507
>Because every time some instinct kicks in and I do what feels like a good dodge through a swing

I've done this far too many times as well. And when I fought the first demon I stood stone still in front of him hitting R1 wondering why it wouldn't attack.
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>>140501371
>Nioh's going to be the next BB
Not even close.
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>>140502507
>Stances
Different stances change your attacks for different speeds and damages, while also changing your dodges
I.E. high stance has slower but heavier hitting attacks and a roll which uses more ki (stamina in this game) but I'm pretty sure has i-frames on it compared to the low stance which has faster lighter hitting attacks and it's dodges are bloodborne esque dashes for getting out of the way, I don't think they have iframes though

Stunlocks suck, use mid or heavy stance dodging for actually avoiding attacks, but blocking is really good and you're expected to block a lot too while managing your ki (stamina), use light stance dodges for re positioning quickly as they use little ki

>Blue particle effects
Ki pulses, pressing R1 while your ki is recharging in the blue bar gives you quicker near instant ki recharge, it encourages changing stances often and during combos

>Healing items
You get 3 every time you rest/ respawn, you can carry more by finding them on enemies or offering/selling your items at the shrine for bonuses up to a max of holding 10 at a time
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>>140502507
git gud.
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>>140505349
action or movie mode?
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Come help me fight Logarius who I'm underleveled for so I can get that sweet sexy cainhurst armor

password is scum
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>>140508046
at the fog?
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Thanks m8
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cheers to the bros who just helped me with the shadows of yharnam
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Anyone want help with low lvl bosses?
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Anyone mind helping a scrub with Vicar? Password is skree, summing from lantern
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>>140515246
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Can an Uncanny or Lost fully gemmed pizzacutter be used in an Arcane build with relatively minimal strength - 20 or so?
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>>140515337
omw
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>>140515556
You replace the strength scaling with arcane scaling when you convert a weapon to your element of choice
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>>140515746
ringing
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>>140515746
His game just crashed..
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>>140515746
oh come on, connection error
i'll be at the fog instead
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>>140516374
bless thee, be there soon
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>start my arcane run
>get tonitrus, finally
>attack enemy, 50 damage
>use free l1 buff
>hit 200

wew lad
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>>140516374
ringing at fog
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>>140516374
thanks mate
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>>140516712
>>start my arcane run
>>get tonitrus

And this is where you fucked up.
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>>140517270
Why? Its a fun weapon.
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>>140517270
>Tonitrus
>Arcane Build
>tricked
>bad

u avin a laugh m8?
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>>140501371
>Nioh's going to be the next BB

It needs serious fixing before that, my friend.
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>>140504165
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Any hunters need a hand?
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For my arcane run, do i need to bother with chalice dungeons again, or can i just look up what online dungeons give me what i need and just get in on those, and dungeons where i could farm souls etc?
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>>140519312
You need to have created a Chalice of the specific type to be able to use glyph codes for it, so you're going to need to do a few.
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I feel as though all the people that torched BB's pvp are total hypocrites for putting up with DS3. It's literally a worse version of BB's in pretty much every way there is.
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>>140519587
hmm.. i see.. thanks
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>>140519757
It's quite possible, and I know this theory is out there Anon but stick with me, it's quite possible that those people that torched BB's pvp aren't the same as the people liking DS3's.
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I'm glad to see bbg still kicking after DS3 came out. 3 is good and everything, great even but I can't get over my love for bloodborne though. I never got spoiled on the cosmic horror twists and it's one of my fondest vidya memories.

All I've done is make a hunter build in DS3 with Leonhardt's armor
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>>140521279
dark souls 3 is lacking in many ways, bloodborne is by far miyazakis best

bloodborne is just an exclusive, if this was on pc it would be much more active still, i think
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>>140521479
if it was on pc we'd also likely have no /bbg/
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Anyway I can save before fighting Henryk?
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>>140523565
Apart from backing your save file onto a USB, no.
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>>140523770
How does one do that?
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Anyone want to accompany a gal against a Bloodstarved Beast in the Church of the Good Chalice?
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>>140523893
They say it's a good idea to do so anyway, apparently.

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/backup.html
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>>140523910
at the fog?
pass?
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>>140524140
Pass is skree, at the fog!
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anyone want to do co-op in DS3? Already tired of the pvp
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Thanks for the assist, James! Co-oping bosses is always good fun.
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>>140523770
>>140524136
I did it with no problem, can you say you're proud of me real quick anon?
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>>140524947
I'm proud of you, anon!
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>>140524923
it truly is
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>>140525181
I feel bad for stealing Henryk's mojo though. I've waited an entire playthrough to get his gear now I'm basically wearing the whole thing.
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>>140394989
I'm about to give up on the DLC. I'm level 95 and have been stuck on Ludwig for two weeks. This is the first boss that I just can't fucking do. Nothing in the main game has even come close to this level of frustration for me. Even level 5 chalice dungeons don't compare. Someone give me hope.
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>>140526562
"A hunter is never alone."
Or are you hell-bent on soloing him?
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>>140526809
Psychotic masochism drives me to do this alone.
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>>140526985
whats your stats at?
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>>140526562
What is it about him that's fucking you up so much?
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>>140526562
>>140526985
What exactly is fucking you up? He's a beast, remember that, so fire and a serrated weapon work wonders. In fact, you probably picked up the best anti-beast weapon in the game, the Whirligig Saw, upgrade it as much as you can and use some fire paper.
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>>140527142
20 health, 16 strength, 40 some skill, 36 bloodtinge, haven't touched arcane or stamina
>>140527185
The whole thing, really. I can't find a balance between dodging, attacking, and healing. I can get him through the first stage with some effort but the second wrecks me inevitably.
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>>140526562
That's a good level. Are you stuck on his beast phase? That is the hardest by a mile his 2nd phase is ez mode

don't be afraid to ask for help but soloing him and beating him, felt better than me getting my degree.
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>>140527627
i'd just suggest just ringing for help, those stats work well for PvP but not so much PvE.

it is a price worth taking if its either that or quiting.
Strenght / Whirligig Builds are the best for his fight anyway.

And i need something to do so i'd love to help you out man.
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>>140525618
You can always mix it up.
It looks very good with yamamura parts.
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>>140527627
Your health is pretty absurdly low for this, man. Your stamina could probably use a boost as it's one of the most fundamental game mechanics. You need it for everything, and DLC bosses are fast and hard.

Unfortunately, you don't have much of any access to the Whirligig. I don't think there's any Skill serrated weapons apart from the tricked Cane, so if you have that, I'd suggest using it.

Along with >>140528295 I'd love to help out. The Ludwig fight is incredibly fun once you beat it and it's great to co-op. I mean, the online function is there to be used, anon. If you want to get past him and get back to exploration, let us know.
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>>140528128
>That is the hardest by a mile his 2nd phase is ez mode
It's the exact opposite for me.
I can eat his first phase before he has a chance to use all his moves, but the second phase always kills me 10+ times.
In the first phase you can jump in 90% of his attacks and take away huge chunks of his health before he can react.
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>>140527627
>20 Vit
What the fuck are you doing son.
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>>140528304
I am, different legs and gloves.

Always wearing the decorative old hunter trousers though, cause come on, that knee brace is too cool. And wore the Yharnam hunter cap all my last game so makes sense I'd use Henryk's cause it's just a cooler version, it's so cool.
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>>140528752
Ludwig is not weak to serrated weapons.
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>>140528752
The worst is that I was grinding chalice dungeons to level up my health, it was only at fifteen. Since leveling that up I can pretty reliably do the first stage but the second is what murders me.
Stamina's never been a problem, it feels fine where it is.
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>>140528837
His moves are easier to see and many chances to get behind him, his first phase is a hot mix of the worst attacks from other bosses. Just study that phase some more and play with what way to dodge and the like.

but really anon 20 vitality is where you messed up.
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>>140528949
Glass cannon as all hell.
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>>140529026
I'm sorry, what now?

>>140529281
If it helps at all, circling him seems to be help quite a bit. Get in close and just circle him, attacking, dodging when he tries to an AoE. Stay close and stay behind him.
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>>140529662
In his 2nd phase he's not weak to serrated cause he's not a beast at that point
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>>140529892
Huh, never knew that. Makes sense, though.
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>>140530282
It's really cool they did that and that fucking name change gets me hard. He's no longer a rage filled beast but an honorable knight once again and for the last time.
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Can I just call the Fishing Hamlet Innsmouth? I think I will
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>playing the Nioh demo
>the second stage is literally a ching chong version of the hamlet
>boss is SMT Nue fused with Paarl + sanic spindashes

Can we include Nioh in /bbg/ when it comes out? Please?
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>>140531202
No, because that would dilute both discussion of Nioh and discussion of Bloodborne. /dsg/ won't have it, it's not /eagg/ enough for them, and /cgg/ will take a good six months debating over whether it's even /cgg/ enough for them to have it. Nioh will get its own thread.
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So, killing Vicar Amelia aka V.A turns dusk into dawn and killing BSB sends kidnappers my way right?
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>>140531202
I mean, we're talking about it now. If it ends up here, it'll end up here.

It probably won't get its own general though.
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>>140502434
Don't forget to use the Torch and Wood Shield
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>>140531202
How do I enjoy Nioh? I mean, is it just me or is the game jank as fuck? Weapons break within five minutes of usage, stamina drops like no one's business, you're left stunned for a good full second or so, you seem to do little damage compared anything else you encounter, it just seems a tad imbalanced, apart from shit camera and Bill's tendency to keep moving one way when I let go of the analogue stick.

I get it's still in development and I'm hoping it all gets tightened up because it really feels like they're overplaying the high lethality angle and that kind of stops being fun after a while. I haven't gotten past the demon in the house because the game just isn't fun to me as it is. Doesn't hold a fucking candle to Bloodborne.
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Can someone help me clear the Nightmare Frontier and the Amygdala? I'm way underleveled, but I need the Loran chalices (along with someone to help me clear those) if I want to get the Burial Blade without having to play NG+.

Password is kosm
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>>140529662
>>140529381
>>140528752
>>140528295
>>140528128
>>140527389
>>140527185
>>140527142
I fucking did it. I don't even know what I did but I did it. Thank you kindly. I feel relieved, but it's cheapened by the fact that I stopped enjoying that fight about 100 deaths ago.
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>>140532185
But on church clothes and talk to his head

Great job!
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>>140530784
Innsmouth is pretty sunny though, and it has no dogs
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>>140531729
>It probably won't get its own general though.

It's had a non-stop general on /v/ for two days now. Whilst this isn't unusual for a new release, it's just an alpha demo. It'll definitely get one here.
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>>140531964
You have a small pool of repair items, swap out your gear frequently.

There's a whole stamina regen system involving hitting R1 that's completely undocumented, the penalty for running out is a little shitty though

Switch to a heavier weapon or the heavy style if you want to tear enemies apart in six seconds

Consider investing in the magic stat so you can start buffing your weapons

Above all else, just don't play it like a souls game, the devs really accounted for that with shit like the area effect the bosses trail behind them that prevent your stamina from recharging
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>>140531964
You have to get real familiar with the controls, stances, and other mechanics before it gets fun
It's really good, but starting off is fucking terrible and the most unfun a game can be, but it does get a lot better and fun once you get it down
Stick to it a little, maybe look up a tutorial or something to get a better idea of all the mechanics
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>>140531202
Please no, just make a separate Nioh general.
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Djura is a fucking idiot
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>>140532932
ETS YUAH. YUAHRE THA BHEESSTSCH.
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>>140532932
>The only guy smart enough to realize it's not beasts you're hunting
>An idiot
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>>140532019
I'll be at the fog
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>>140532019
I'm still here if you're willing to go again, cooperator.
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>>140532327
It makes a difference? I was already wearing the executioner's garb.
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>>140533375
I'm at the fog
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>>140532680
THIS
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Can anyone help out with Laurence?
Password is bbg.
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>>140532185
Good stuff, anon! Relax now, you've got a whole new area to explore in a moment.
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>>140533898
are you at the fog?
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>>140534449
Yes.
Bell is ringing.
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>>140533228
This is the same logic as zombies in zombie movies. Beasts are no longer the people they were in way, shape or form. They do not resemble, act or think like people. Zombies are the exact same way. And in each case, there is no coming back from death/beasthood. They are literally wild, vicious, super strong monsters. We've seen how bad it can get: Laurence, Abhorrent Beast, Cleric/Amelia, Bloodletting Beast with its colossal Vermin, beasts are literal monsters that can and will murder indiscriminately. Don't forget, you're in a cosmic gothic horror, there's no good to be found in hoarding monsters up in an abandoned city where their Verminous infection can worse and worse until they spill out into the city. Of course, there's no more people in the city, either.
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>>140533228
Pretty sure everyone else knows by this point, Anon. Hell, the whole point of Eileen is killing hunters who are on the cusp of turning.
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>>140534449
Damn son, I've never actually played with an arcane player that actually uses the tools.
Thanks for that.
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>>140535040
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>>140534775
>there is no coming back from death/beasthood
>Ludwig
>The beasts in old yharnam worshipping in the church
Come on man
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>>140535235
Beasts worshipping blood even as beasts isn't exactly a sign there's a chance for them coming back. Ludwig only starts seeing sense after you've ripped his head off.

Now if you can grow them a new body without beastblood then sure I'll be right there with you saying we should be decapitating them and restoring them to humanity. But guess what Djura? That shit don't exist.
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>>140536245
He regains his humanity before you cut his head off, he's not even classified as a beast in his second phase, serration doesn't do bonus either

>But guess what Djura?
Don't go off telling everyone
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>>140535235
Case 1. Ludwig

Rapehorse will always be Rapehorse and was Rapehorse until you beat the shit out of him. It's a well known fact he had an incredibly singular mindset, obsessive and enchanted by his Moonlight blade. Only once exhausted and irreparably mutilated does he do anything to but try to kill you probably because he's on the brink of death.

Also, let's not forget where we are: The Nightmare, an alien dimension reflecting a Yharnam of a very long time ago. Ludwig has existed in here for who knows how long since his advent of the Church Hunters. Ludwig is a very, very special case with very, very specific circumstances. I'd wager the Moonlight Greatsword has something to do with his state, as well as his existence in the Ironic Hell of the Hunter's Nightmare. He's hardly a representative of some kind of beast therapy when he exists for all intents and purposes in Hell.

Case 2. The beasts in the Old Yharnam church

Beast patients, some of which still covered in rags to hide their growing affliction. Chances are they were people with beasthood who escaped into the abandoned city, either by themselves or pitiful family members before they became a problem and were killed by hunters, or were taken there. The large werewolves and the Bloodstarved Beast have been there much longer, BSB the longest as it exhibits the worst of the ashen blood plague, which is where the others probably get their poisonous aspect from.

The crucified Bloodstarved Beast in the church is in no way indicated to be worshipped. It's crucified, much like other scourge beasts we see in Yharnam. Who isn't to say that beast patients, while still retaining some of their humanity - as beasthood isn't instant or necessarily progressive - didn't kill that Bloodstarved? The place is set up to burn, remember that, there's a laid trap in that place you can spring from the rafters, presumably once set up to kill the BSB. When we meet those patients, though, they're long passed humanity.
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>>140536602
And yet he still tries to hold you down and horsefuck your insides into being outsides. He may not be classified as a beast but he's still a raging fucking lunatic who needs to be put down.
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>>140536991
Nah man he was just defending himself from an evil hunter who half killed him already, he a good boy that dindu nuffin
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>>140536991
Edgy
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Praise you.. Praise the whole damn general!
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>>140536991
>>140537147
He's an obsessive monomaniac living eternally in Ironic Cosmic Hell, he's so far fucking gone he's coming right back around again
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>>140537676
A general of curses, a general to remember!
Wouldn't you say, friend?
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Man Loran Darkbeast was a pain in my ass.

But now I don't have enough Ritual Blood rank 5s to get the final "story" chalice. Where do I get that shit?
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>>140537720
The cringe is strong with this one.
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>>140537831
Just remake Ailing Loran from the second option on the chalice menu and run to the 2 ritual bloods on layer 1. Rinse and repeat. You can also buy Ritual Blood 5 in NG+ for about 50k each.
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>>140531202
Nioh is so good.
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>>140536245
Why does Djura want you to not kill beasts?
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>>140538313
Cheers lad.
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>>140538371
Because he's retarded.

Seriously, I dunno. Maybe he feels guilty for taking part in the burning of Old Yharnam, and this is how he "repents" for it.
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>>140538371
Because Djura is insane.
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>>140536245
>old gramp
>Henryk and Djura are probably the oldest ones there

>>140538371
Short answer: because he's an idiot.
Long answer: because he helped burn Old Yharnam to the ground, a town that got intentionally fucked over due to the distribution of fucked blood to begin with (may have helped with that too), this is his way of dealing with the guilt, and he's an idiot.
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>>140538480
>>140538501
>>140538628

So he's the Bernie Sanders of Bloodborne.
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>>140538371
Because they used to be humans.
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>>140531621
>/eagg/
If only, anon. If only.
Rest in peace. ;_;
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>>140538932
But he's a hunter who is supposed to hunt formerly human monsters.
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>>140539029
He's retired. He isn't even part of the hunter's dream anymore.
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Can someone help with the lower pthumerian labyrinth? At the layer three lamp. Chalice glyph is jjph
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>>140538001
That's what the Hunter's Nightmare is, ya dingus. It's an Ironic Hell. created for Hunters, because of Hunters. You get that, right? Were you paying attention? Blood-addled hunters go there to hunt forever and forever, mad with blood.

Ludwig is very widely known to have been obsessed with the Moonlight sword as through the violence of the hunts, believing it kept him on the straight and narrow while what it actually did was make him the single most monstrous beast in existence. That's what monomania, an admittedly somewhat antiquated term, is: fixed delusion, obsession or singular drive. Guess what describes Ludwig's mentality.

Please look up the meaning of words before you jump to conclusions.
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>>140539092
So nigga got dumb?

Also, are all hunters a part of that dream or are there multiple dreams, one for each hunter?
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>>140535040
>Arcane user
>not using Tools

Why?

No, seriously, why? The tools are amazing. I guess people just use Augur and that's it?
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>>140539092
Neither is Eileen, interestingly enough.

However, Henryk has to be. If you're a confederate, you can summon him after you kill him.
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>>140539092
No-one but the Good Hunter is part of the Hunter's Dream anymore, Anon.
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>>140539446
>Gehrman
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>>140539340
There's no dream.
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>>140539340
Most hunters aren't part of the dream at all.

>>140539394
By that logic Yamamura and Antal are also part of it. And we know they're actually not on account of having died before its conception.
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Are there other covenants aside from cainhurst? You get anything for joining or leaving them?
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>>140539490
Gehrman is a no-one.

;-;
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>>140539673
>By that logic Yamamura and Antal are also part of it.
Right.

Right? Isn't that exactly what that means?
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>>140539673
>By that logic Yamamura and Antal are also part of it
It could mean that. I mean, it's not a big deal either way.
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>>140539703
Yes, there's Hunters, the Executions, The League, the Beasts, and Milkweed.

Milkweed/Lumenwood Kin or riot.
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>The Mensis Ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts
Why would summoning Mergo turn everyone into beasts?
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>>140531202
>SMT
>in my Bloodborne
It DOES have eldritch abominations, though.
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>>140539663
What? You're in it.

>>140539673
So why are you part of it? And who do all those graves belong to?
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>>140540046
fun fact - instead of MP, the player in BB is supposed to be Nyarly
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>>140539931
The moon accelerates beasthood. The closer it is, the quicker and worse people become beasts.
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>>140539189
P-please
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>>140540101
>What? You're in it.

Fuck me, I meant one dream.
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>>140540467
>Main Character is Nyarles
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>>140540685
>Fuck me, I meant one dream.
What? You see like three dozen other dreams just looking around Hunter's Dream.
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>>140540602
Oh shit dude, on my way, gimme a pass so I can get you specifically
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>>140540790
?????????
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>>140515453
>>140515246
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>>140515246
This kills me every damn time
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>>140540467
But is the player Lord Edison
this is the important important part
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>>140539189
>>140540602
I need a pass, anon`
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>>140541515
fuck off, the good hunter is Tesla
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>>140540790
>>140540101
The graves belong to past hunters. Like Eileen and Djura, who had the dream but awoke from it. That's why they're graves. When you accept the Awakening ending you're killed in the dream and awaken in Yharnam, then in NG+ there's a new grave. That's your grave. The graves aren't active dreams. They're markers for hunters who have already gone through it. There's only one dream and one dreamer at a time.
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>>140539854
>>140539896
How are they part of the Hunter's Dream when they're trapped in the Hunter's Nightmare?
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>>140541989
Who says they're trapped? You can summon Antal for Darkbeast Paarl and One Reborn, after all.
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Is Bloodborne still pretty active? I don't think I can play Dark Souls 3 anymore that game is boring me to tears.
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>>140542564
It's still active
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>>140542172
They're trapped in fucking cells, Anon. Not just, "Ooh trapped in a spooky nightmare," but literally trapped in jail cells. On top of that Yamamura is totally batshit insane when we find him.

Alright Old Hunter Bell item description

>The old hunters, who have long passed from the dream but cannot forget the feeling of the hunt, rely upon messenger to relay their thoughts.

Long passed from the dream.
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>>140541859
So if they've gone through it, is this all a giant cycle that keeps repeating itself?

>>140542172
The nightmare is the world where the game takes place, right? Or is that the waking world?
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>>140542710
Well alright.

I don't buy that there's only one hunter in the hunter's dream at any one team, considering how closely these hunters lived to one another.

>>140542840
>cycle
Not a cycle, but an event that happens whenever the old blood is distributed with reckless abandon.

Pthmurians got fucked over it, and thanks to Ludwig arming the public, Yharnam was doomed to follow.
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>>140542564
DS3 honeymoon period is pretty much over and the multiplayer is in shambles, so BB will go on for a bit longer before reaching DS1 status.
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>>140542840
>So if they've gone through it, is this all a giant cycle that keeps repeating itself?

Maybe yes and maybe no, it's all unclear. It's possible Mensis has been doing this for ages and the previous hunters failed before the night was over and were just kicked out, or maybe every time MP drags in a new hunter they have a different mission, and they're awakened upon completion of it.

But really the entire story is about how the cycle repeats itself. Civilisation finds connections to Great Ones. Attempts to transcend into greatness. Destroys itself in the process. Isz. Loran. Pthumeru. Hamlet. Cainhurst. Old Yharnam. And the present events.
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>>140543045
So all that happens repeatedly but it isnt a cycle?
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>>140543045
>considering how closely these hunters lived to one another

Explain.
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>>140543167
DS1 is still very active.
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>>140543431
Eileen and Djura both dreamed and are both alive currently.
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>>140543308
In the same way that "building cities on tectonic plate faults will result in troublesome earthquakes" is a cycle. A pattern isn't inherently cyclical.

>>140543431
Well most of The Old Hunters are the result of mass conscripting from around the time of Old Yharnam's fall, and the whole established timeline only ranges about one lifetime, not even a long one at that.

Established dreamers like Gascoigne and Henryk worked with each other, you meet a shitload of living hunters, and even then these are just the lasting dregs of a society so flooded with hunters that they were "ten a penny". Hundreds of graves for countless hunters, all operating in a very short time period.

The current player is the only one currently operating in the dream, that I can buy. But that's only because it's all gone to shit.
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Did all hunters dream or just the church ones afther Gherman's?
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>>140543821
And Henryk.

Given the fact he's also a foreigner who turns into a reputable beast-hunter and goes batshit insane it's incredibly likely Gascoigne was a dreamer too, though there's nothing concrete with him.

This doesn't prove nor even suggest there's more than one Hunter active in the Hunter's Dream at any given time, though. It's a full moon, and a hunt, every two weeks. Even if we assume MP is only active for a quarter of them there's still not nearly enough people to warrant thinking what you're thinking. Unless we also assume MP reuses Hunters, but then we're throwing assumptions on top of assumptions to turn a horse into a camel.
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>>140544312
We don't know.

But the contract seems to be written by the blood ministers, who tended to the hunters, it's possible.

>>140544375
Given the description in >>140542710 we can safely assume that any summonable partner was a dreaming Hunter, and that includes Gascoigne.
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>>140544375
Hey, I'm not the original guy that suggested that, I was just trying to piece out what he might have meant, honestly.
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>Gasgoine taunts you about letting out your true self
>your hand is fucked during visceral attacks

Are you a beast the entire time?
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>>140544684
Considering you're the only confirmed being who truly ascends, compared to Willam or Ebrietas merely mutating, unlikely.
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>>140544836
Beasts can't ascend?
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>>140544110
>Well most of The Old Hunters are the result of mass conscripting from around the time of Old Yharnam's fall

Says who? Most of the Old Hunters are actually foreigners who had fuck all to do with Yharnam before the dream. The player is a foreigner, they come and be blood-ministered, then they enter the dream. If they choose to Awaken they Awaken in Yharnam.

Gascoigne was a foreigner. He dreamt the dream and decided to stay afterwards. Henryk is from Loran. Yamamura, Eileen, Valtr, nothing suggests they were the result of mass conscription since they're all foreigners, like the PC is.

The mass conscription was of the general public. Those niggers shouting AWAY AWAY? They're the ones who were conscripted, and formerly led by Ludwig.

You have to remember the Hunter's Dream is controlled by Moon Presence. It's not connected to the Healing Church, and seems to run counter to it if anything. Moon Presence wouldn't just grab every motherfucker going and make them Hunters and have them all running around the dream. He clearly picks foreigners and they have a specific goal, in our case Mergo.
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>>140544498
Right, forgot you could summon Gascoigne, good catch.
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>>140544684
No, but your own blood causes frenzy when using Bloodletter. That has more implications of you always having Great One potential, rather than being a beast.
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>>140545003
>Henryk is from Loran

Is that from DS? This is my only souls game.
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>>140544836
Ebrietas is already a great one.
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>>140544951
No idea. But Gascoigne murdered his own wife in his bloodlust, and I wouldn't take his words as fact.
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Got frustrated and stopped playing a few weeks ago.

Going to return.

Out of shape.

The rape will be worse this time.
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>>140545003
>Henryk is from Loran
Source?
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>>140545447
Looking fucky doesn't make you a great one. She's Kin.
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>>140545596
http://psnprofiles.com/trophy/3431-Bloodborne/29-Ebrietas-Daughter-of-the-Cosmos
>Defeat Great One: Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
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>>140545717
Oh boy, trophies.

Great Ones don't bleed white. Kin do. And the Kin aren't Great Ones.
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>>140545596
Source?

Not only the trophies call her a Great One, but her Augur does as well:
>Use phantasms, the invertebrates known to be the augurs of the Great Ones, to partially summon abandoned Ebrietas.
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>>140545786
Do you honestly think you know the game better than the developers who made the trophies?
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>>140545385
>>140545587
Some Anon pieced it together ages ago in another thread, but I've forgotten half of it. Something like Loran is desert, hence him having a yellow outfit unlike everyone else, and all the electric darkbeasts are from Loran, whilst Henryk's armour has the highest bolt resistance. If someone who remember better can fill in the blanks please do so.
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>>140545881
Do you honestly think that the trophies aren't thrown together by interns for the sake of fulfilling Sony's arbitrary criteria?

Better argument is >>140545842 which I guess just further muddles the whole Great One/Kin relationship.
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>>140545903
So, baseless.
Henryk isn't from Loran.
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>>140546043
He is the only black character in the game.
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>>140544836
>>140545596
Ebrietas was definitely found in the dungeons. It's unlikely she mutated from human and more likely she was what happens when one of those freaky human/Great One children grows up.

After all, the Orphan is kin too.
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>>140546024
No, and even if they were they would still be under the supervision of the devs.
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>>140546219
I think Eileen is also a nigga.
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>>140546043
Honestly, there was a lot more to it. But ultimately it's a pointless piece of trivia, so I'm not gonna bang my head against a wall trying to convince you.
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>>140546419
She's just an old, tired crow.
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>>140546582
>But ultimately it's a pointless piece of trivia
I'd say it's somewhat important, if every confirmable dreaming Hunter is a complete outsider from Yharnam.

Not so important where he's actually from, sure, but just that he's from another land.
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>>140546419
No, only her voice actress is, hence tumblr always drawing her as black.
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>>140546768
Hunters didn't even exist in Loran's times.
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>>140546419
>eileen is black

God of War's Kratos is voiced by a black man, yet the character is Greek. Voice actor's race =/= race of character.
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>>140547039
But there were so many black Greeks!
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>>140547004
None under Gherman's tutelage or dream, sure, but maybe their own hunters with their own dream. Or their own version of MP's dream, who knows how long that shit has been puppeteering.

If they had issues with the blood too (the Loran Chalice is filled with beasts, after all), no reason for them not to have their own ways of dealing with it, and Henryk was said to have a "tragically long life".

Not that age seems to mean too much in Bloodborne, Valtr just chilling in that hut and all.
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>>140546768
There's be no way to confirm on account of Antal. He's known as a Defector and he's wearing Yahar'gul robes, all pointing to him being Yharnamite. Now it's entirely possible he's a foreigner who came to Yharnam and just got caught up in it all after, or it's entirely possible he isn't.

Either way we can confirm that most of the hunters who dreamed were foreigners. And that's enough to hold some significance.
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>>140546230
Fuck what colour does the Orphan bleed?
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>>140547348
Gehrman invented trick weapons and the type of hunter attire that Henryk wears though, even if he's from Loran his equipment is definitely modern.
The warriors in the dungeons still wear chainmail and use normal weapons.
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>>140547692
Well Henryk did operate in Yharnam, with Gascoigne, for a significant amount of time, perhaps even up to the player's interference.

"DEATH TO THE MINISTER" and all.
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>>140547805
But isn't the evidence of Henryk being from Loran mainly based on his attire?
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>>140547692
It's possible there's a modern day civilisation called Loran living in the same region too, Anon.
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>>140547963
That would be a big coincidence.
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>>140548081
For you
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>>140548081
How? Countries rise and fall all the time. It's plausible those who escaped buried the rest of the city and moved on with their lives, rebuilding on top of it all. That's exactly what happened with Pthumeru and Yharnam, right?

I mean it doesn't even have to be called Loran. It's just that that's the general place where he's from, that's all the thought was.
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>>140548208
Rather insightful of you.
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>>140548208
Anon, that's too lewd for a blue board.
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>>140548305
In that case the coincidence would be the presence of electric beasts and sand in the new Loran.
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>>140548530
That's the exact opposite of a coincidence.
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>>140548757
The old Loran was completely engulfed by sand, beasts and all.
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>>140548848
And yet it was uncovered by the Tomb Prospectors. You think there's absolutely no chance anything got out? Or one of the locals from nearby decided to get involved?
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>>140424698
the only proper ending can be the destruction of that great ball of chaos known as the sun and allowing mankind to return to the dark.
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>>140432134
Where is that
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Is Evelyn worthless without high bloodtinge?

I wanna use itt
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>>140550029
All firearms are worthless without high bloodtinge.
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>>140550029
You can use it as a parrying tool, but don't expect to do good damage.
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>>140541803
You still there? Pass is bbg9
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>>140550029
pistol does better damage at low blood tinge desu but if you arent going high blood tinge it doesnt really matter what you use because you'll just be parrying.
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>>140551487
Ahh, fuck it. I'll do the DLC, chalice dungeons a shit
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>>140552254
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>>140552254
>beating up those poor innocent Aldrich Faithful


They just want to bring about the Deep, Anon. Don't stop them.


But nah, good on you for killing invaders.
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i maak poost :^)
hit me up senpai
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>>140552591
Should've have waited until you were done with the DLC anyway, Chalice Dungeons are super-super endgame stuff.
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>>140553279
https://discord.gg/0snncqEdOrarICcs
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BSB anyone?

Pw is fox at the fog door.
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>>140553279
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>>140553994
fingerssss
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>>140554176
Grant us fingers
Grant us fingers
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>>140553616
Still need help?
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>tfw you actually really like the katana's moveset (to the point where you think you'd actually have fun with the game using one) and the look of the Eastern Set
>tfw don't want people to think you're a weeaboo
>tfw every shitter and their mom uses a katana
I guess I'll just rush my way to that platinum and put the game away forever then, BB I'm coming home soon.
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>>140549504
I hate the idea of a "proper" or "true" ending in these games. I miffs me whenever people refer to the squid ending as the "true" ending too. That's the ending for that particular character, just one of two or three outcomes.
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>>140554473
I got em baby but thamks
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>>140554692
It miffs me when people say the Awakening ending is the good ending.
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>>140554532
>tfw don't want people to think you're a weeaboo
Why not?
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>>140554797
The only reason I'd go for ascension is to relieve Gherman's eternal night.
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>>140554692
>miffs me whenever people refer to the squid ending as the "true" ending too
I do this as well, but only because it takes the most effort to achieve that ending. That basically says in my mind that it's the "true" ending.

However, I don't think it's the "good" ending, or even that there's a "bad" ending (though your character taking on Gehrman's role is pretty bad for your character).
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>>140554859
Weeaboo's are about the worst thing a person can be, even child molesters get more respect
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>>140554797
It is if you want it to be. It's all up to interpretation. I just hate it when people try to present their interpretations as fact, escpeially if it's a stupid one.
>>140554532
Dude, just be a samurai. Just don't wear western looking armor with a katana unless it's really eccentric looking. But don't let me stop you.
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>>140554532
>Caring what other people think
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>>140555000
Childhood's Beginning is the secret ending for sure.
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>>140554532
Try one of the other fast skill-based weapons then.
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>>140555103
I can't help it, I have massive self image issues
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>>140555160
I would say that's fair. It's very easy to miss 3 of the 4 umbilical cords, and you can actually progress character quests in such a way that you can only get 2 in a playthrough.
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>>140555045
>It is if you want it to be.

I dunno, it didn't seem to work out very well for Valtr. Or Yamamura. Or Antal. Or Eileen. Or Djura. Or Gascoigne. Or Henryk. Or Alfred.
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>>140555360
Valtr is doing fine. He likes his job.
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>>140555328
For what it's worth, Anon, I and everyone else here now think you're a massive tool.
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>>140555360
Many of them never really got released from their contract, and if they did they actively sought out danger anyway.
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>>140555509
>Many of them never really got released from their contract
What?

>and if they did they actively sought out danger anyway
Because of the beast-blood raging through their system, which is also raging through your system when you awaken.
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>3 million souls later and I still need 13 Proofs of Concord
Why Miyazaki, why did you give an item we need 30 of one of the lowest drop rates in the game?
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>>140555780
This.

Awakening ending isn't "good" at all. Eileen and Djura remember, Micolash is wrong. The condemning part isn't the beast blood, which will fuk you over eventually, but your Insight. You're going to go crazy as fuck, if not directly turn into a Beast.
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>>140556049
Well, to help you out, you only really need to farm 24 of them, since you get 2 for each game cycle, and you need to play through 3 times on the same character.

I'm finding Shackles a lot more obnoxious, honestly. The fastest area to farm them in is a tiny fucking hallway.
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>>140556574
Yeah but you can just fightclub for shackles outside of the Pontiff's room
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>>140556706
>implying I have PS+

feels fucking horrible, man. I'd actually love to co-op bosses for my medals, but I'm already paying one subscription a month, for FFXIV, I don't want to pay two.
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what are you guys up to ? need hep with something ?
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>>140556896
Honestly I'm just considering making this a throw away character and pumping up all my stats to 50 just so I can steamroll through the NG+ cycles for those rings and spells.
Only thing keeping me from doing that right now are medals and shackles.
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>>140557226
That's usually what I do for my first character, just grind them the fuck up to however high I get to finish everything in the game and do all the necessary NG+s, then work on a PvP and Co-op character with a second one.

With how passwords work, you don't even need to do it is you just want to co-op now, and given I don't seriously PvP, I don't see the point of staying at a certain level.
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>>140557226
If you don't like the game why are you trying to 100% it? I don't understand why so many people here do this.
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>>140557850
getting platinum is surelly a terrible thing
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>>140549993
Forgive the late reply, but that's Irithyll dungeon.
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>>140557850
I don't really hate the game even though it's not the best, I just hate the hoops you have to jump through to get platinum
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Can any one help me beat Martyr Logarius? Stuck at him and pw is gt567
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>>140558274
give me 5 mins
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>>140558274
what was that NG bullshit
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>>140558846
Sorry I couldnt do much since I'm like BL25 or some shit, trying to rush chikage lol
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>>140558961
>>140558961
ringing again
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>>140559034
alright omw back
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>>140556049
>not even started on ears yet
>wiki event isn't working, so Darkmoons are 100% broken on 1.06 on PS4
>have 20 more grasses to go and I have been summoned a whopping three times to defend Farron
This is awful.

>>140556574
I got 21 shackles from invading in High Wall at SL20, but a shit load of gank squads and R1 spam. Gonna do the rest in Undead Settlement.
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>>140550143
If my pistol is at +5 would it do more or less dmg?
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>>140559659
Grass took me about 3 hours at outer perimeter bonfire. I respeced my character to primarily luck, Avarice, Gold Serpent.

It was a bit mind numbing, but not nearly as bd as ears.
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>>140559851
slightly more dmg unless you spent a lot on bloodtinge
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Anyone up for NG+ Gascoigne? Pass is kosm.
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>>140559659
They seriously need to buff drop rates on covenant items, I get that they're rare to encourage us to get the legitimately but that kind of falls apart when the covenants work once every two weeks.
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>>140559932
Would twenty be a lot?
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>>140438114
Yeah playing DS3 has made me appreciate BB more
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>>140559034
Holy fuck thank you so much
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>>140560150
deppends on what do you want your final build to be, wither pump 25, 50 or leave it untouched
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>>140560312
no prob
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>>140559865
I..don't think I'm going to be able to grind the ears. It's so frustrating that we already went through the exact song and dance fucking eight years ago, with the exact same items and broken covenant.

>>140560120
They probably will, but that bad taste will stay. It sucks you don't even get the chance to get them properly, plus even if you get summoned, some people are saying they don't get the ears. I'm also getting anxious about finally getting the call and dying/host disconnecting. I think I'd just stop playing the game.
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>>140560090
>tfw no one wants to fight Gascoigne with me
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>>140560606
Nobody advances the game to NG+
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>>140560647
They can still fight NG+ cycle things.
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>>140560647
Do the not? I've been thinking about doing it recently.
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>>140560560
Nigga, the harpies don't even come close to the silver knights, this shit is like trying to farm pure bladestone, only you need 30 of them.
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Can anyone help me with Rom in Lower Pthumerian Labyrinth? I fucking hate him, pw is bbg20
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Is it weird if I just browse /bbg/ because I love the game even though I've never played it and can't afford a ps4?
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>>140561538
sure
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>>140561607
Alright, I'm ringing at the lamp
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>>140561831
all i have to do is to ring at the makeshit altar with you pass right ?
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>>140561870
I wanna say you have to be in the dungeon, but I'm new to the whole chalice dungeon thing.
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>>140561870
I think you need to be in the dungeon, on the level you want to summon for.
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>>140561870
You just need to ring at the alter
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>>140561831
rom status : rekt
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>>140561870
Thanks anon, that was a cakewalk with the both of us
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>>140561602
not really, BB is a great game for all the good reasons

also memes
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>Can bump up my SL from 80 to 139
>Still need 9 more ears
I-I think I'm done for the night
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>>140561602
Nothing wrong with that, Anon. I hope you have a chance to play it some day, it's wonderful.
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>>140561602
Just rent a PS4 for it, anon, local renting places will run you 15-20 a week.

It's a short game and well worth it.
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Can someone help with the lower pthumerian chalice dungeon? Specifically rom. Chalice glyph is jjph, password is bbg123. Will be waiting at the layer 3 lamp
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>>140563543
I'm so sorry, anon, but I'm waiting for the inevitable higher drop % patch. No way am I doing this Pure Bladestone tier shit.
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>>140564327
If it wasnt for the duping glitch I dont think I ever would've gotten someone so generous to give me one.
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>>140564191
Please. Her third stage fucks me up everytime in this small enclosed area. Send help
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>>140564327
I don't know how anyone did that to themselves in DeS. I don't think I hate myself to platinum Demon's Souls to go through pure bladestone farming.
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>>140564840
riging
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>>140564953
I honestly don't know how I did it, looking back. I think I just shut my mind down and ran to that guy for 8 hours straight. I admit I'm kinda bitter to those who duped or had their friend give them one, though.

I also farmed all ~25 of my Ears from the Knights, but had to do that over the course of 3 or so days.
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>>140564953
Find a nice guy that has 999 of them to drop one for you. If the servers are still up that is.
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>>140565196
Demon's servers will always be up every time you think they aren't. Frankly I don't care enough to do it. I'm happy not platinuming a game I enjoyed.
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>>140565131
Thank you kind sir.
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Anyone up for the Shadows sometime soon. Only boss I've asked for help this whole NG+

It hurts
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>>140565925
Sure, what's the pass?
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>>140565925
giv pass
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>>140462408
Update: Beat him with this strategy! I felt like I cheated after mostly letting them shave him down to phase 2, then rushing in and getting charged backstabs every chance I had. Thanks anon.

The Research Lab is probably my favorite area of the game right now, but maybe I just had higher hopes for Byrgenwerth after everything seemed to link back to it.
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>>140566016
Pass will be kosm It'll take a sec to remember how the fuck to get back there.
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>>140566235
Yeah, Research Hall is amazing, my personal favorite area in the DLC. You can summon a NPC for the next boss as well, which is helpful if you don't use Bolt Paper. However, you need to do something special to be able to summon him that I won't spoil for you.
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>>140566358
I'll ring at the lift I can't be assed to find the way, I'm too high.

Please lead the way
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>>140566957
Gimme a sec to get over
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to unlock all requirements for chalice dungeons I just need to make FRC Pthumeru Ithyl root dungeon right?
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>>140566235
>>140566948
yeah man, we dont want to CORRUPT your experience with the game it bould be terrible
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>>140567049
iz is cheaper
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ty anons
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>fighting gehrman
>suddenly goes into full anime mode
>teleports behind me
>unsheathes death scythe
>psssh nothin personnel kid
>one hit combos me

what the fuck
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>>140567090
Anon, stop being a faggot, some people like to figure things out on their own.
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Anyone up for Gascoigne? Pass is kosm
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I think it's cute that explosive crossbow bolts are essentially bolts with a huge proto-bullet acting as the tip, das3 needed more things like this to set it apart from das1
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>>140568339
At the fog door
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Is the character limit for names in DaS3 that same as in BB, 16?
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>>140568782
Yeah
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Thanks for the help.

I don't agree with your taste in games, though.
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>Start NG++
>Bosses that used to be cakewalks are now ripping off my asscheeks and handing them to me

Gascoigne suddenly got 50x more aggressive than I remember. I can only imagine what the Moon Presence is gonna be like.
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>>140569321
NG++ and on sucks, I didn't like it one bit. The bosses all have assloads of HP and continue gaining until like +7. NG+ is really as far as I'll ever go again.
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Hold up, something just recently struck me as I was thinking of making a Murakumo/Chaos Blade build

Was Shiva supposed to be Indian or Chinese (in terms or real world equivalent, who knows what the fuck "The East" is actually like in DaS's world)?
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>>140569948
japanese
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>>140570000
>Indian name
>Armour mainly follows a Chinese aesthetic
>Voiced by a guy named Hsu
There's not a single drop of nip in his entire character.
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>>140570524
His armor looks like it's pieces were gathered from various other suits of armor, probably trophies of previous kills. Dude could be from anywhere from the east, really.
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Why the fuck cant we do PS4 DS3 FC's

All that cancer hole dsg does is PcCuck FC's
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>Want the Burial Blade before I go to NG+
>In order to do so, I must:

>1. Clear Pthumeru and Central Pthemeru
>2. Grab 4 flowerbuds from the Nightmare Frontier
>3. Kill Amygdala
>4. Use this glyph and farm 9 ritual blood (4)s by killing the bag enemies a ladder and 2 hallways away
>5. Make an Ailing Loran Chalice
>6. Farm 33 ritual blood (5)s with this easier glyph that has 2 of them them in a chest every time you reset
>7. Clear Ailing Loran Chalice
>8. Make and clear Lower Ailing Loran Chalice
>9. Go through the Unseen Village
>10. Find the Upper Cathedral Key
>11. Find the Orphanage Key
>12. Kill the Celestial Emissary
>13. Kill Ebrietas
>14. Buy 3 Pearl Slugs from the insight merchant
>15. Go back and go through Lower Pthumeru Layer 2
>16. In a hidden room before the boss, get the haze extractor
>17. Use 2 spare ritual blood (5)s, along with one arcane haze I already have for some reason, for 25 total
>18. Make a Great Isz Chalice
>19. Go through layer 3, and 1 red jelly
>20. Then find a chest with 5 tomb molds (5)s
>21. Make a Lower Loran Root Chalice
>22. Hop in a glyph where there is an uncanny burial blade

I'm still at step 4. Wish me luck!
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Why does this general have to go so quiet? Even BB has better PvP than the cancer over at DS3
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>>140572942
Literally the same, at step 4 although I have done many of the steps above leaving me with 14 total steps
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Since we're close enough to needing a new thread, I figure now is a good time.

Does anyone have that "post number determines your BB build" image? I deleted mine like a retard.
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Does no one even comment on Ludwigs death?
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>>140573485
My plans for tomorrow is to get 7 more ritual blood (4)s. With a 25% drop chance, I should be finished with 28 more runs.

Then, I'll see if I can get some generous soul in /bbg/ to help me clear Loran and Lower Loran, and I'll finish the day by farming 33 ritual blood (5)s and go to Lower Pthemeru L2 for the Arcane Haze Extractor.

The rest can wait for another day.
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>>140574131
>Lower Loran

I'm so sorry, Anon.
Camerabeast was literally the last thing in this game I ever beat. I think he gave me PTSD.
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>>140574218
Like any rational human being, I never liked going through chalice dungeons, but if the stars align just right, I hope I can find a couple of brave and benevolent level 120+ hunters here to give me a hand.

I'm only in the upper 50s in terms of level with a +4 saw spear I could barely tollerate. I don't want to ruin the rest of the game, so I'm pretty adverse to leveling to 100+ myself and doing it solo. If all goes well, I'd get to kill 8/17 main story bosses, plus all the DLC bosses, with my preferred weapon.
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>>140574103
Anyone?
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>>140574581
Simon does if you reload the area.
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>>140572942
i just accomplished this and you do not have to do 10-20 lol u some kinda scrub
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>>140575473
The only other way to get 5 Tomb Mold (5)s that I'm aware of for the Lower Loran Root Chalice is for to to clear Lower Pthemeru, Defiled, and go for Pthumeru Ihyll. The problem is that I'd have to progress way further in the game to get a Living String to make Pthumeru Ihyll.

Unless, you know of another way?
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>>140574512
Can't you get weapon upgrades from the chalice dungeons so you can at least chalice with a +6-8 weapon before heading back into the main game with your burial blade?

Tbh just playing NG+ sounds a lot less autistic than what you are doing.
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>>140576046
The thing is though, I don't think I can beat Loran and Lower Loran without having at least leveled up to at least 100. I'm only barely over half that right now, and I rather not grind and ruin the experience for myself later on. Even with a +8 weapon, that wouldn't change.
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Any dare to help me with Isz layer 3 Ebbi?
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>>140576403
Sure
Pass?
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>>140576483
It's doll

also, I'm a Vileblood so make sure your runes isn't something else. I'd rather you didn't invaied me
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fight club when?
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>>140576835
14 hours
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>>140576617
Been trying for a while
Take off the vileblood rune maybe? Covenant runes are notorious for fucking matchmaking
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>>140577183
Took it off about to ring, thanks
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>>140577315
At the top of the stairs sorry I don't know why it's not working.
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Well thanks for trying
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>>140577850
rip, srrc just doesn't want to work
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>>140577890
I got her:3
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So i'm curious, how does beasthood as a stat work?
Say Brador's gear vs Maria's for example and you pop a beastblood pellet. Does Brador's get higher dmg as you get it up further and further as oppossed to Maria's which caps earlier but lasts shorter?
Or is it the same damage increase but Brador's would just get a longer duration before dropping off?
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Hey fellas, had to restart my game, because my save file got corrupted and didn't play Old Hunters yet

What is reccomended Player Level and Weapon Level for it? Endgame?
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>>140578497
The more beasthood you have the more beasthood you can gain, staying at the maximum buff level longer if you fill the bar.
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>>140579906
50-70 with a +6-9 feels about right to me, though it's all skill dependent and the later parts are a bit harder than the early parts.
>>
We need a new thread.
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>tfw wanting to delete a character just because I died to Gascoigne
I have brain problems.
>>
New thread >>140582465
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>tfw no post-apocalyptic wasteland souls
>no mad-max tier armor sets
>no using wheels and chains as weapons

feels bad
>>
>better game general

Seriously sick of DaS3 at this point. I might come back and finally try an Arc build or something.
>>
Why the fuck is parrying to casual in this game, it's ridiculous how you can parry someone who's behind you now.
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