/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

fuck off Jules can you write a single post without memes?

Anyone here is new or relatively new, not in a unit and would like to play with me from time to time?
Nothing too serious, just someone to have your back in a 2 man team or something (perhaps if we have fun, supporting each other with playstyle). No strings attached.

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why aren't you in space yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TownrwXGzlI

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>>140138663
>Jules
lol

>10-11
>wolfhound left
>he's fighting 2 stripped enemies
>gg easy win
>the mouth breathing brain dead retard starts overriding and kills himself fighting two robots that have no guns

real fucking good jub buddy

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10/10 would have sex in this.

>>140139065
FUCK
OFF
JULES

>>140141030
people using Maulers as LRM boats.
I've seen this more often then I like.
Use a few LRMS to soften up targets at the start of the battle.
Then put in more Dakka then LRMs for the end of the fight.
It pisses me off. Stock Builds I was pulling 600dmg~800dmg regularly.
Tweak it and easy get more.

>>140141313
>lurms

>>140141313

B-b-b-but the mauler 1R is for SRM boating with Dakka.

Question Which one should I get first, Radar Dep, or Seismic

>>140142257
Radar derp, not even a question.

Guys is MWO p2w?

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Good cicada memes.

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Hello, Jules AKA Monkey Bone here.

I am very concerned about the current state of Kong and the Kong lords.
There are rumors, that Rather Dashing, the creator of Kong still has not received his invite to the official Kong Lord team for the upcoming 100.000 dollar tournament.
Meanwhile, steambirth such as Hucast have been invited to the team over an obvious Kong lord choice. Such actions degrade both the moral and performance of the Kong lords who are going to play in the upcoming tournament.
As one of the key Kong Lords, I had to express my opinion in this matter. I can't stay silent in matters like these on such grim times we are living right now.
Rather Dashing made Kong, then again he made Kong great again after the dark times of steambirth invasion. Such treatment towards the pillar of Kong is unacceptable. He is an Elder Kong lord and should have the respect of one.

I hope you understand and thank for your time reading this post.

~SIGNED BY ELDER KONG LORD MONKEY BONE~

>be PGI
>release nigger spheroid mech after nigger spheroid mech that you quirk and model to be top tier
>have a game mode that denies one side access to these mechs
>wonder why that game mode dies in a week right after you release an expansion to it that you spent months creating

Where's the clan equivalents to the warhammer and marauder?

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Never forget.

>>140145163
No its not, unless you want the jewish oxide.

>Decide I'll try playing again
>Log in

>all I've got is my one Timberwolf and hero Centurion
>Loved the fuck out of the Centurion but could never get a viable build that could live through a match
>I'm only averaging 100k creds per match anyway.
>Sold the engine & weaponry out of my Cent for my Timberwolf armaments.


Fucking fuck
At least my Timberwolf is doing well.

>>140146017
>Warhammer
>Marauder
>top tier
lmao

>>140148469
Buy something cheap and fun, like hunchbacks or blackjacks

>>140149231
>>140149231

So my Cent is basically scrap metal?

>>140149294
it's not great but not compleatly worthless.
What are you using on it? Do you have it elited?

What mechs can boat triple uac5 that's not a jager or a king crab?

>>140149471
>>140149471

I haven't played in years or however long.

I stripped it of engine & armament to buy my Timberwolf.

I'm enjoying my Timberwolf, I just wish mediums could be brawly

my Timberwolf is more like a fucking cutting beam hiding in the shadows.

>>140146017
In the game since 2014 and better.

>>140149294
You already sold your equipment for it anyway
Cents are just eh.

>>140149845
>>140149845

I wish they would let you sell the fucking things.

Goddamnit PGI.

>>140149729
You can't be brawly in 12v12 because you'll just die.

You have to wait for chances to brawl, and those usually come 6 mins after the start or never at all.

>>140149616
E L M O

>>140149616
>uac5
Anyone else have an issue with the ultra AC/5 jamming on the second round multiple times in a row?
I ended up just switching to a pair of AC/2s on that arm instead because I couldn't deal with my main gun jamming every time I fucking needed it.

>>140150229
>Elmo
>THE UAC boat
>no UAC kwirks
one job PGI

>>140149729
Ok. Your madcat should be able to grind spacebux easy. You should also elite it, since that increases its power immensly. You also can brawl in a madcat if you wish. Try this fresh meme:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=bf0b1a54566c6f5aa51fae4507a35684bd2a5012

If you want to reactivate your cent and brawl, maybe try faction warfare scouting mode. Its a 4v4 with 55t limit that usualy devolves into a brawl.

>>140152231
>>140152231

I'm rocking a laser Madcat right now, double LPulse with 5 MPulse lasers. (TBR-C)

>latest update happens
>suddenly people are one shotting heaivly armored components instantly
>damage on end screen is showing lower than ever
>multiple people in unit are experiencing this

What bug did pig resurface now?

I often get fucking huge disk activity spikes after closing the game, windows is reading page file and some MWO data files like the fist of the north star but not writing anything. I can't find anything about this anywhere and it doesn't happen with other games.

>>140152491
Get a madcat S and an A/D and elite that shit.
I would also swap the medicine pulse for er madicine lasers and more heatsinks. 2x lpl 5xmpl is just way too hot.

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>>140152934
>>140152934

I was mistaken, For some reason my Meds being yellow made me think they were Pulse.

They're C-Meds

If I weren't so damn broke I'd have elited them by now. Hell I'm not even sure how you would elite an omni mech, could I just buy the Omnipods and it'd "Become" a TBR-Xwhatever?

My days of doing more then casually playing a couple of matches are long gone. I don't get the joy in large enough doses to want to grind through 60m Credits to buy 2-3 more of the Same goddamn mech.

>>140148904
>warhammer
>can put all weapons in side torsos, several have energy range or burn duration quirks that make them great pokers
>marauder
>ridiculous hitboxes coupled with structure quirks that make it extremely tenuous to kill, can put on enough guns to outlast any clan mech

>>140152820
Also been having a shit ton of crits, can't go a match without getting my weapons critted out before the component goes.

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>>140153876
You need three variants to elie it. C, S and D for example. The omnipods of oher varians do nothing for skills. The skills and double basic that elite gives is just so strong that it's mandatory in the long run.
This is MWO for you. Grindy robots.
At least the madcat is so flexible that you can use a compleatly different build on every single one.
Have some ancient OC.

>>140154527
still not better than meme knights or good old mad cats

and marauder only has one good variant and even then all the best loadouts on it can be completely trivialized by shooting the massive side torso (which is also why the marauder cant run XL)

>>140154829
or grasshoppers

warhammers also cant really run XL, sides are really easy to hit

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>>140152929

Deep-rooted cryengine errors.

>>140154829
>mad cats
>good any more
In the time it takes for a clan medium laser to burn, a burn duration quirked IS mech will have finished nearly half a second earlier and will be torso twisting to spread that damage already.

Mad cats can vomit damage, but it's either spread, or takes a long time to apply, which means it'll be laughably easily absorbed by the defensively overquirked IS mechs.

>>140155329
mad cat is still the best heavy in the game, get the fuck out steambirth

>>140155106
Fucking PGI.

>>140155410
Maybe in terms of build variety, yeah, but there's several IS mechs that, thanks to quirks, can outperform it in it's chosen specialized role.

>>140155970
nah, clan laser vomit still shits all over IS thanks to range and damage

in medium/brawling range? sure, IS wins

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Can't wait for them to fuck it up.

http://mwomercs.com/news/2016/04/1533-viper-lore-blueprint

>>140156289
>those arms
ew
EW

>>140154829
It has two good variants and one has a meta build that is minimally viable with only one side torso but yes.

>>140155053
I find I get cored from the side really easy too, it just doesn't seem that good at shielding. It's too bad because if it wasn't for that I think it might be better than Black Knight now. At least it justifies its huge structure quirks.

>>140155970
TBR is still the second or third choice for heavies in comp.

>>140156062
TBR can out brawl Black Knight.

>>140155329
Quirks are a retarded mechanic. They memed too hard to make clans "balanced".

should I downgrade to a std engine on my jaeger? I feel like I die too often from side torso shots rather than center torso

>>140156289
I can already immagine how horrid the hitboxes will be on this thing.
>dat snout
>getting cored from the side a la ebin
>while having shit for podspace

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>>140156968

>TBR can out brawl Black Knight.

???

>>140157407
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=309&l=cd4eee1dd81653f2b8b48e9944d78e889efe58b9

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>>140157049

>put XL in robot.
>you can bring guns and ammo and move fast.
>you die like a bitch after fighting for half the game.
>put standard in robot.
>you can't bring guns or ammo, move slow, and take increased damage everywhere because your twist speed gets cut so much.
>you die like a bitch because you fall behind your team.

>>140157908
that's a nice laser vomit build you have there

>>140156062
Shame nearly every CW map is limited to close range.

>>140157928
Vass, Vass, he's our man!
Sucks cock just because he can!

Medusa will unironically be good.

>>140150928
G-guys?

>>140162135
dont smash that mf double tap button

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>>140141313

>most of the -1R's quirks aren't there to make it a 90-ton Awesome-8R

>>140148469

Timber Wolf is still the best Clan heavy out there, while the Cent is, well, middling (but workable). It really, really helps getting a chassis elited- but that means basically doing three versions of said chassis and many a newbie doesn't realize that people have grinded the fuck out of the machines that are magically doing things faster and better than they are.

>>140163030
Aight, so I was right.
It is a certain interval you have to tap it at to keep it firing. Kept it going for sixty rounds a few times

>>140152820

Did they fix the targeting computers reducing crits instead of improving the odds? That might be the stealth fix that did it.

>>140156976

The dankest meme was "We can balance Clan and IS 'Mechs 1:1".

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>>140164326

It was a pretty good meme, but far from the dankest. That title easily goes to 'it was our position at the time' or trannyverse.

PGI is a company of true memelords.

can somebody explain the thought process of the man who takes their loyalty atlas and puts only 2erll and 4lrm5 on it?

take it a step further and try to explain why he would be frustrated when a single light takes him apart without effort?

do people really not realize when they have a shit build?

>>140170724
fuck off steambirth. You wouldn't believe how good that loadout is on TT.

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>tfw your whole team leaves you and two other mechs behind when you've all been legged, but you end up carrying the match with no ammo, one gun each, and less than 30% life left per robot.

>>140170724
>fat fucking assault
>not taken apart by a single light without any effort

>>140170865

the dude did have 1955 in his name so maybe he is trying to relive the past

>>140167482
>egg-shaped dropships
:^)
At least they're finally in our cockpits now.

>>140170724

A big 'Mech with nothing but weapons that try to keep it as far from combat as possible is simply a player that is absolutely incapable of actually fighting.

And in a state of denial about it.

>>140170865

In TT, it's the loadout of a 'Mech 40 tons lighter.

>>140174743
I'd be more concerned about a fucking 100-tonner with no armament apart from 2 ERLLs and 20 lurm tubes. Fucking """"scout"""" mechs have more firepower than that.

>>140171312

>carrying
>when the ACH got more kills and solid damage
>and the lights that lived managed 3 more between them

Looks like teamwork, not a carry.

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>>140175182
>my face when I realize I'm about to try LRM30 Jenner IIC and think about his build

>>140176005

desu lrms are only good if you're using a mech with missile cooldown or narc quirks

>>140176210
I'm piloting a 35 tonner that will easily do single digit memes with SRMs if you fuck up, I pretty much don't care anymore.

I have literally never even used LRMs except for trying the trial Cat for one game and deciding they were shit.

LRMs don't really do as much damage as they feel like they do when you're getting bombarded by them, do they?

>>140177787
6xLRM5 I will shake you like a baby to death.

>>140177787
It's less "they don't do much damage" (some stupid spammy builds do have high alphas) but that the damage is spread over like every component and maybe even both front and back armour so it rarely actually does much to you.

>>140177450

a lrm 30 jenner will be incredibly annoying but if you get caught by another light you're fucked.

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>>140178015
LIKE A BABY!
A-1 Lurm spammer.

>>140178015
>>140178029
They're fucking terrifying and annoying as shit at the very least

>it's yet an another polar highlands episode
Why the hell does everyone love this shitmap so much.

>>140178150
I've also come to the realization of how ridiculously garbage it's going to be for capturing.

>>140179065
>People keep picking shit maps and the whole team ends up getting steamrolled
By the by, is the Black Knight worth getting?
Looks cool as fuck but it seems pretty tall.
Ebon Jaguar is nice as well with the above mech weapon mounts, least I like the trial Ebon Jag Prime

>>140179303
Black Knight is easily the best IS heavy chassis right now.

>>140156289
So pretty much a Raven with arms.

>>140180265
I'm new what are IS mechs, are they the ones you buy normally in the store?

>>140180593
Inner Sphere. Two quick ways to identify an IS vs a Clan. The first is the price, Clan mechs are usually the ones that cost a lot more than the others in their weight class. The second and actually useful identification is to look at the mech- if it's mostly green, it's IS. If it has a lot more grey, it's clan.

>>140180593
IS is the abreviation for Inner Sphere, as opposed to clan mechs. Dont worry, none of this shit is explained in game.

Currently all the clan mechs can be identified by being omni or having IIC after the name.

>>140178150

LRM 20 + NARC on the other hand is pretty much "watch me run by at 140kph and watch the rain drop" if you're playing spotter on a eye-eye-see.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=362&l=ab86d43e0a8ca0ddd26f2ab84bc09741b671eba4

>>140181048

and you get the totally not op 650m range clan narc

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>>140180890
>>140181008
So since these are green they're IS?
I see one of the Blackjack models has a (C) in it's name, so is that Clan?
Sorry if I'm sounding retarded, this really isn't explained in game like >>140181008 said

>>140182352
There is somewhere where it says Clan and Inner Sphere but I don't know if it's even in the store.

>>140182352
That single (C) means champion, these are/have been trial mechs. Its an XP boosting version of the same variant that doesnt have a (C). It is only available for MC and not worth it.

Ebon, hellbringer, mad doge, timber wolf, orion IIC, and summoner are clan heavies.

Just use this http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#modified

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>unironic Orion posting

>>140182513
I don't think you can actually filter for it in the store, just the mechbay/garage.
>>140183089
>mechlab
Why not just link him the regular homepage with all of the mechs in a table? http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

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Oh if you view in mechlab it says under the name.

>>140182513
The filter for clan/heavy/trial/owned is only in the garage. The store is a clusterfuck of useless.

>>140183334
Went off the first link I had and didnt bother to double check.

>>140183531
>clan/heavy/trial/owned
clan/inner sphere/trial/owned*

The fuck, I havent even been drinking yet.

>>140183521
The ways of piggi are arcane and mysterious

>>140181298

Which is lighter and more compact, to boot.

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>>140170724
Pretty easy desu
>be old man eager to relive your netmech days with your buddies
>have sweet Davion hero Commander OC self insert
>"I must pilot BIG HERO MECH"
>"This ATLAS should suit my needs"
>isn't actually good at vidya
>"I shall LEAD from behind and SUPPORT my team like a REAL commander"
>have no money because shit player and assault cost
>fuggg all I have is these ERLL's and LRM15 it came with stock
>4 x 5 = 20 + r/HPG told me LRM5's have gud refire rate and spread so I will take 4 of them and put out 20 damage every second :^) with ERLL's to close in!
>smash that mf drop button and fap furiously to the thought your sweet davion OC wrecking everyone and saving the big titty drac archon princess
>get rekt
>"was just my shit team desu, i'll try again"
>repeat

>>140183089
>>140183334
Alright, thank you very much

Which version of the Black Knight is the best?

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Who SKILLRMS here?

>800 damage
>250 000 spess dollaroos
That's good for a heavy sniper mech, right?

>>140184570
Its a tie between the L and the 6. L can get a stupid big engine and load with mpls for insta pew, while the 6 has better mobility overall and cooldown. Mostly down to preference sempai

>>140185229
Aight, thank you.

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>>140183260
you just haven't seen the full potential of the Onion IIC-C fgt
a meme it may seem to you, it's a robot that can work if you know how to make it work famm. The reason why people say it sucks is because they don't know how to make it work :^^^^)

#StopTheOnionHate2016

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wee

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>>140182352
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Inner_Sphere
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clans

If you see a mech in the store you like, toss the name into Sarna and find who makes it. Bear in mind that the Clan mechs use the Clan names rather than the IS call-outs for them. As you seem aware that IS and Clans are opposing factions and their mechs cannot be fielded together in CW, you're not as bad as most of the other steambirths who came here crying about "bugs" that prevented them from selecting the Clan/IS mechs they owned for their drop deck.

Generally speaking, the Clan mechs will be more rounded than the angular IS mechs. This was intentional design that the PGI artists went after for consistency not wholly present in the previous iterations of BT. The rounded IS mechs in MWO are composed of flat plates that angle into a generally round shape, like how an octagon is rounded, but is still not a circle. Clan mechs are actually round, and are the circle of the metaphor.

Image very related. Look at those round plates on the old Jenner. Now those round plates are reserved for the Jenner IIC only, to make the distinction between IS and Clans more apparent.
Notable exceptions are things like the Marauder however, which was still in-universe confused by IS targeting computers with the rounded Timber Wolf design.

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>>140167482
>kaelus angry red squiggly outline is still there

Never forget.

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>>140184912
Foolish Steambirth, you cannot comprehend my level of meme missile wizardry.

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>>140187291
>haruko driving my waifu-mech
sugoi sugoi

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>>140185992
wew lad, 5UAC5?
>>140187428
LRM5 Memetaro is the realest of real G meme mechs.

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>>140187582
Look at this trigger nigger

>>140187582

6 ac2s fo dat 900m suppressing fire

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>>140188184
>6 ac2
You a true nigga moleasses

>>140187582
I disagree. The spiciest meme is knife fighting with max surms in a fat sumo wrestler and a 360 XL

>can't find my high-damage games
I hate it. I need to prove my mastery of Judo-fu Sanshiro Sugata mememachine status.

>>140185541

We need to get together and group Onion IIC our way through the queue to post blogs together.

#StopMakingOnionsCry

>>140184912

That's some fine kill securing you got going on there.

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>literally grinding teamplay with the klords.
>only a third of them show up.

This is gonna be a tough one.

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>>140188528
I agree. Together we can all make Onion IICs great again

#EndOnionDiscrimination
#OnionsHaveFeelingsToo

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#IncreaseOnionBullying

>BNC-3S
This is just a 10 million c-bill/too many fucking hour fun tax for playing BNC-3M isn't it

How do I get my squadmate and I matched with teams full of clan niggers in Quick Play?
The enemy team seems to consistently do it time after time getting us shit stomped.

>>140193730

Right now, yes, but back before kwirks, the 3M was the shittiest one by far.

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>>140193778

Groups go into the group drops. If you go there and you don't know what the fuck you're doing, don't bring a small group, or you're gonna get assfucked by an enemy big man.

>>140193857
I can't see how anything could ever be worse than a 345 engine cap with mostly energy hardpoints.

So, will the Viper be any good?

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we're all gonna make it, right?

Ok here's an open question for /gerg/.

Now that the Cyclops is planned to have advanced sensor's. What Current Mechs should have specialized equipment retroactively now?

>desperate old man Vass trying to salvage this thread because it's the only thing in his life
let it go
this game is shit

>>140195743
Fuck off. MWO is good.

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>>140195983

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>>140195598
Awesome
-90% PPC heat generation

>>140196235
If it's so bad, why are you still here? I've been enjoying the game personally, and despite lacking graphics it has what is essential and the company has done nothing you all claim it's done for at least a year by my memory.
I am perfectly happy playing MWO in it's current form. All the issues I have with it are said to have fixes on the way, and even without those, it's still an above-average arena deathmatch vehicular combat game. It's far better than the Tank games I've tried, or Robocraft, or Crossout, or all those other games.

Get over it.

>>140196308
They do need to give the awesome fantastic PPC quirks.

>>140196308
That's a quirk, not equipment

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>>140196963
Shh, let me dream
>6PPC Stalkers but in Awesome form

>>140193629

Triggered my LRMs.

>anti-MWO shitposters can only post images and flee from debate because they can only recite the words of others

Pathetic.
I thought I was posting somewhere better than /pol/. This game is genuinely good. It's too bad it's burdened by this community that mindlessly attacks a good game.

>>140195598

Ravens should get beefier ECM/BAP effects along with sensor range boosts. They were literally built around electronic warfare equipment.

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>>140196679
Im here to remind old men they can never have a good mech game again and them backing the wrong horse is the reason why.

>>140197916
Ah, okay. Great posts then, but that doesn't look like the font MWO uses. Is that HGA, or are you in the wrong general?

>>140197916
But there's another BT game on the way. And now there's the exciting possibility of people actually adopting FD's designs instead of using shitty SS ones or something.

Is there any point in having more than the basic viper pack if you can buy omnipods? other then that one energy CT one.

>>140195090
Yes, it will be just fine

>>140195598
Crab should get good sensors, Ravens should be EW out the ass

Kit Fox too probably

>>140198069
You very well might not be able to buy the Medusa omnipods for cbills ever, we don't really know

On release the reinforcements and Medusa omnipods won't be available for cbills for sure they've already said, just like the preorder variants of old

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>>140198057
>tfw the future of BT is potentially bright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5OdR033_MI

Wew.

Can't wait to get my Draconis swag in the mail desu senpai, gonna wear the fuck out of that hat nigga.
>FD LITERALLY saving BT singlehandedly
W E W

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>>140198746

Flyingdebris has basically been resurrecting BT since before /gerg/ or MWO, considering he also did rulebook art for the tabletop game. MWO just turned out to be where he got to go full-on with the universe.

It's also amusing that some of his furry-slaying work got repurposed later into official art.

>>140199001
He's a fa/tg/uy through and through.

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>>140199001
The greater irony is when we used to shit post in the forums about the cancer changes to mechs ruining his designs and people would dismiss us as 4chan losers oblivious to the fact that FD is literally one of us.

He even posted in the thread once.

>>140199250
>He even posted in the thread once.
source you memer

>>140199385
Regardless of him posting in /gerg/ he posts on /tg/ and has done so for years and years.

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>>140199385
He didn't say anything, he just left this image in the autosaging thread.

It's nerds beating up Bryan.

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>>140198746
>openly showing off your BT wear in public
N E R D
E
R
D

>>140200196
>BT wear in public is bad
>BBT "bazinga" shirt is fine

Nice post greg!

>my team gets memed on
>spectate the survivors
>atlas with 2 large lasers and 1 gauss rifle
YOU'RE IN A 100TONNER

WHERE ARE THE GUNS

I just noticed the Kodiak-3 has 4 ballistic hardpoints. Clan Dakka build that's not as slow as a space whale?

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>Do almost 650 damage in a Locust
>Still lose
Light piloting is suffering sometimes

>>140200196

coming from the guy who has a wallet with a naked child on it.

>>140200295
Don't forget
>actually unironically wears a plastic crown in public
>thought buying a lolicon wallet and using it was a good idea

FUCK OFF AND STOP POSTING RIN

>>140200517
>not wearing a plastic crown in public
get this non-klord out of here
>>140200428
>>140200517
>not buying swag merch to post on the internet for meme-status
Do you not own dragon dildos or something? No dakis either? Come on now.

>>140200517
You know that he has no personality of his own and must use images associated with others

He just wants to get in your pants by using images you like

>>140200386
Gonna have to do way better than that f a m

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>>140200329
>not understanding he used the extra tonnage to take a larger engine
>MAX twist speed
>MAX movement speed
>mfw clanners LITERALLY don't know how to handle my 100 ton super armored elite sniping mech
>can rain down LL and goose on them all day long and they can't stop me because I have assault tier armor and light tier speed
HA HA HA HA

>>140200386
literally who
get this non-konglet out of here

>>140200386
I did 1.1k damage in a 2ERLL 2ERPPC hellbringer earlier today and overheated to death against the last guy who had no weapons. Good thing we still had one light left to finish it :^)

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>>140200295
>>140200428
>>140200517
Now hold on a minute. That was then and this is now

I am perfectly capable of making rational thought-out decisions these day, and I am not the irrational Greg I used to be. This you should know

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>play a fuckton of MWO between Dark Souls sessions
>dreams blend that shit together
>wind up with terrible OC ideas

Maybe I'll finish this, maybe I won't, but this was an awful lot of MS paint chiseling in one sitting.

>>140200837
You're not even faster than a heavy.

>>140201693
Do You Even Play This Game?
serious question.

>>140201947
Yes. And an Atlas even with a 400 XL can only go about 69 kph when elited.

>>140202279
Nice post. I bet you just looked that up on smurfy you steambirthing faggot.

>Full laser loadout Black Knight
I think I've found my Mobile Suit, guys

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>>140201434
You're right. Old greg would fail classes and drop out. New greg would never do that.

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>>140203286

How to get Inner Sphere/Clan gear?

>>140204323
cbills

>>140204720
Asking how do I get access to them, silly.

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>>140201512
And because I have so little to do tonight, fixed it to have the time-period appropriate raidboss.

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>>140203831
>[Deleted]

>>140204882
that's much better famm

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>>140199001
>sperging about FD being some kind of saviour

not really FD alone, its the new direction CGL took with the Battletech art, there are other fantastic artists, FD is just the most popular on 4chan because of the furshit.

People like david white are better imo.

>>140205812

I won't disagree that other artists aren't part of the solution too, but it's FD's work that's going to end up a good portion of the "unified" art look they're going with between MWO, the new BT online stuff, and Catalyst's own artwork.

Which we really do need. Badly. BT's always been plagued by artwork that swerves wildly in quality and direction.

>>140204323
Do I have to do Faction War stuff?

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>>140205812
David White is trash, Shimmering Sword is poor mans FD.

David White shit just looks like toys with ridiculously oversized weapons. Shimmies art isn't bad but it's too clean and doesn't really feel like Battletech. FD is the only one to really get down the whole walking tank aesthetic.

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>>140206330
What the fuck do you mean by faction/clan gear? There's no such thing in this game.

>>140204323

By gear, are you talking weaponry, chassis, random things to hang in your cockpit?

Generally, the way a given chassis goes in is:

1) Released for real money as a preorder. If you're quick, this also usually means some extras like modules and cockpit items, titles, etc. etc.
2) The chassis then goes to being available for MC. (Barring a lot of grinding, this is basically a lower real money price) After a while-
3) The chassis becomes available for C-bills (and F2Ps can grind it out).

Equipment that works with a given tech type can be bought with C-bills once you have the appropriate chassis to slap it onto. It's inevitably better to test-build on Smurfy before doing things in-game so you don't end up accidentally building something full retard and mourning the death of your in-game bank account.

Modules take GXP (global exp) to unlock and once unlocked can be bought for C-bills. Note that some modules can take an unholy fuckton of GXP and/or C-bills. Again, worth checking Smurfy.

>>140206330

No, you don't. There's literally nothing in FW that you can't get with MC and/or C-bills. FW is just another kind of gameplay that you can grind, but honestly for most people the best thing to do with FW is ignore it.

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Odd request, but does anyone have that amazing Terra Therma audio overview a Kong member did a million years ago? I forget who voiced it, but it was this great 1960's redub of Bombashill's terri-bad promotion of the map.

Got a hankering for old school Kong nostalgia.

>>140207886

Of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GShhY2rLCpU

Voiced by Huge.

>>140206890
Waiting for the next module sale come on pgi niggers

>>140205812
That art is bad and you should feel bad.

>>140208505
Thanks!

>>140164006
Yes targeting computers now properly add crit %.

have 15 mill c bills

master level on three commandos

thinking about playing something different but I just don't know what...

heaviest I'll go is a medium and being a free player I only have the one extra mech bay.

>>140207886
Wot mech is dis?

>>140215706

A demolished reseen marauder, stripped of armor, and undergoing repairs to make it operational again.

>>140216882
>responding to yet another /tg/ crossboarder who types like a fucking ork because he's underage and thinks it's funny

I thought we were past this.

12x standard Heat sinks better than 8x double?

>>140218026
Where did you hear that from? I just tested it on a few mechs in smurfy and I'm still seeing that four DHS are about equal to 12 SHS while using up far less tonnage.

>>140202981
What did he mean by this?

>>140218341
I'm using 12x standard compared to my 8x doubles

>>140218634
post the build. I remember Paul saying there were a few rare cases where SHS were better, but I've never seen one.

What if the Vindicator received special quirks that allowed it to mount a single PPC in the head?

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>>140218883
I'm just starting out. Don't vilify me please.

>>140219068
>74.1/75 tons
take off ferro fiber armor and put on endo steel, it is always more effective
ferro is only good on certain light builds with shitload of empty slots

>>140219068
get double heatsinks. it's a fun tax that's mandatory. there is no situation where singles are better. also you should be able to fit one more LPL if you swap the medium pulses to mediums. they sync better with large pulses with cooldowns and ranges.

>inb4 medium laser battlemaster memes

>>140219564
Will do
>>140219647
I like pulse lasers, but I'll swap em out. See if that goes better.
Thanks for the advice guys

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>>140219068
>>140218634
>>140218026

>single heatsinks.
>FF armor.
>pulse laser boat.

Your build: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=0317f373c69a816b6323b064cacd6abc1002de6d

24% cooling, 64.4 heat capacity, 2.54 dissipation.

Your build upgraded to dubs: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=fc640c2838b79c250b0946be39cfc702502e3483

28% cooling, 60.4 heat capacity, 2.98 dissipation. Still has almost 6 tons free for putting more shit on your robot. If you remove the FF armor, which you should, you can put on another two dubs, and upgrade your engine, AND put more armor on your legs.

Dubs are as mandatory now as they've always been. Anyone who tells you otherwise wants you to suffer, and it's a mean thing to lie to a new player that singles are totally gud, guys.

Very special snowflake builds that can literally boat them like it's closed beta can use singles, but even if you can do that, it's a waste of tonnage to prove some kind of meme point. Upgrading to dubs would still vastly improve your robot.

>>140219068
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=e440b345a52fe0f06a4011b076801d6201526ed8

now i want to buy a black knight

that 375xl so expensive tho

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How is this?

>>140219068
>just starting out
That would explain a lot.
Use smurfy when mocking-up and posting builds. It's easier to work with than PGI's mechbay.
I mocked up what you have in that image:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=17f19c5c663089dac327cd2e151736205754c8ab
12 SHS at 24% cooling.
I dropped five DHS in and got 25% cooling.

Also, as the other poster said, lose Ferro. Make sure to spend those last points of tonnage on armor. I'm not sure why you have 0.89 tons unspent. There's no advantage to it.
Otherwise, front-load armor in the CT like you've done in the side torsos. IIRC cockpits come with 10 internal health, meaning there's no reason to take max armor since 28hp still dies to dual goose. Personally I take between 8 and 12 armor depending on what I could alternatively spend the tonnage on, since with 12 armor you can still survive an AC/20 headshot.

Also remember that leg armor should almost always take priority over arms. The worst-case for losing an arm is losing the gun arm on a Cent or similar man mech. This is still nowhere near as bad as losing a leg. It also matters because good players will target legs over torso if the existing damage levels are equal, because you can't torso-twist legs nearly as well, and with Clans being here almost half the mechs you encounter can still fight with a side-torso gone. Armor those things up.

>>140220264
>almost seven extra tons
swap one of the MLs in the arms out for another LPL. You can lose some head armor if needed, or the BAP.
Unless I've been out of the loop too long, there's still basically no reason to take one, ever.

>>140220264
under tonnage and very hot

i would keep the STD300 engine in until you can afford the 375, you can't do anything with the tonnage from the XL300 without running way hot

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=68f2483e95e4e91f79868d44f13c900197fcb3de

>the more useless the shitmech you need to grind out the longer it takes because lel let's give a ridiculous fraction of XP for losses
Knowing how to keep the playerbase happy for 4 years.

>>140214585

It's time to bite the bullet and go play some CW once they put the queues back together so you can actually have some more Mech bays.

A single lonely robot with basics only is really underperforming.

>>140220760
If you don't like it leave :^)

>>140220835
Getting mech bays in CW is pretty much garbage now. As a solo merc you'd probably need to play like 200 games to get 3.

>>140220551
Done.
>>140220746
Already sold it and I'm not blowing more dosh on this thing tonight.

>>140220551
>>140220264
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=10e4e7cd4c456b8bebd259563199f0ea5ca302f0

I'm pretty sure this build relies on the XL350, so I would stick to quad LPL until you absolutely need to go fast:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=323&l=c4be65641c7b1f29f9d900a23da7ae17ea6160b0

xl375 is a meme. dont do it

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>>140221060

What, nobody'll give him an invite to KONG?

Anyone stuck with all Commandos is one of the most ancient of memes.

>>140221005
But seriously if I need to basic a good mech it's like 2 casual hours, to basic a shitmech is two nights of suffering and anger.

>>140221175
It would be the same shit except you wouldn't get pubstomped so much. Before you could swap factions constantly and just get the tier 1 rewards 12 times, now that's not all that practical.

>>140220551
Swapped out the BAP and put an AMS on with 3000 rounds. Not that it'll do much other than make me feel marginally better

>>140221175
Anyone can be kong if they come to mumble and don't be faggots.

>>140222113
and get Maskirovka privileges, don't forget.
>"public" group
>main sit in the private channel

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>>140221764

So why buy the shitmech to begin with, unless it's required to grind out something you like?

It's not like the Vindicator is forcing you to play it.

>>140223254

The game is 50% grinding shitmechs you instantly sell, 25% various forms of waiting (mechlab, SEARCHING, lobby has been destroyed! READY UP! end game screen, clicking ready in the group drop, swapping modules...) 10% fun, and 15% getting your shit pushed in by elite teams.

I have no idea why we still play this game.

>>140223254
I meant to say shit variant. There's a few really good mechs in this game that are one meta variant with one or two completely worthless variants.

Also sometimes I try to run alternate builds on omnimechs and hate myself for it.

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>>140223254
>that image
Wew

Should go back to working on my BT manga desu senpai

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>>140206338

>Shimmering Sword is poor mans FD.
>Shimmies art isn't bad but it's too clean and doesn't really feel like Battletech

I feel the same. Shim Shams art is too blocky and clean looking. You can look up almost any mech picture hes done and it looks like he draws his mechs as stacks of cubes, and then adds detail over the cubes. Everythings so square and boxy, where as David White and FD give their designs a little bit of style and artistic flair.

Shimmys mechs remind of a hospital. Clean and sterile.

>>140223801

My usual response to those is to simply say "fuck it" and leave them alone until it's a premium time freebie/double exp event.

And if I really have to, global exp it once it's past basics. I've got like 15K even after burning some on random bunches of module skillups.

But for those level 2 shitmechs for one good chassis, I prefer solo queue and fast dying. Charge in. Pop UAV, swipe everything with laser fire. Die. Get into real game with decent 'Mech. When you're done with that, repeat shitmech rush.

The worst thing you can do with a 'Mech you don't want but have to level is actually play with it, after all.

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>take a break from grinding shitmechs
>get Blacked within two minutes
>realize I'm still really grinding shitmechs

>>140222470
t. spudbuddy

>>140154772
Yeah, that happening too. Tried taking out a meme mauler and successfully flanked on frozen city. Center torso disappeared in a few seconds. Took out marauder on multiple maps with my unit. Constantly my guns are destroyed from an enemy just glancing their lasers over my right and center torsos.

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Concept designs for Very Heavy Autocannon and Heavy Gatling Laser Cannon.

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>>140226304

>weapons with parts that move when they fire

>>140221068
>Already sold it and I'm not blowing more dosh on this thing tonight.
Never sell engines, especially 300's, and especially XL 300's since they can go in damn near everything.

>>140226662

Y'know, like MWO did before the cancer hit.

Does MWO still take forever to grind anything? I think I own a single madcat prime when I picked it up a year or two ago.

>>140227047
The economy is loads better than it used to be.

>>140226765
PGI is removing cancer though. The Cicada and Stalker look loads better now that their weapons actually change. Sure they went through a period where they were using a butcher's knife instead of a scalpel, hence the Cent, but they're past that now.
The steam release is making them work on the game, if not care about it.

Do we have any ideas of what a good load out will be for whatever Kodiak variant? I've seen people are swooning over the KDK-3 for all the ballistics, but who knows.

>>140228975
lasers

>>140229076
That's what I thought too. Why go ballistics when you could go KDK-5 and ram a billion lasers down their throats.

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>>140227047

Better, but still grindy- it's a F2P after all.

If you don't want to go crazy from it, keep an eye out for events and just play then. You'll usually get something out of it- bonus exp/C-bills, or even a little MC or cockpit items and such. Occasionally an actual 'Mech.

>>140228954
>PGI is removing cancer though.
??????????????

>>140228975
lasers and double lbx20

>>140230283
>mechs that don't don't physically have the loadout they're carrying
>can't tell if a stalker actually has SRMs or not

It's cancer alright.

>>140230571
hit that mf r button

>>140230779
>wait for information instead of receiving it visually like on all the other mechs
>good design
>at all

Just because there's a way around it doesn't make it any better.

>>140232198
>Implying it even matters what the enemy mech is packing when the vast majority of players can't even shoot straight

The only time it's going to really matter is when you and the other player are both in the 99th percentile. And then you ought to already have a decent idea what the guy has just based on the chassis, variant, and his location relative to both teams'.

>>140233017
>implying that knowing if a stalker is boating PPCs or not the moment you have see it isn't worth knowing.

I'm not interesting in talking hypothetical "if you're this good it doesn't matter anyway" situations. That's just comparing epeens since the subject of Tier is going to come up and be used as an argument, and all of this will be done in a digital, anonymous setting, where proof of who is and is not Tier 1 is impossible to confirm.
The fact of the matter is that mechs that did not have their model changing based on what weapons they carried had an advantage, no matter how slight. A more exaggerated version of this would be if certain old mechs did not properly show when an arm had been lost. That information matters, and it's evidence enough that PGI thought it was necessary to update the old mechs that it does indeed matter.
It would be like playing a tank game and ending up in a situation where you're unsure if what you're looking at is a T-34 with the 76 or 85mm gun, because the model for them is the same. The 76mm could not penetrate a Tiger's frontal armor while the 85mm could, by the way.
Visual differences matter for game balance purposes.

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>>140228954
>hence the Cent
It still hurts.

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>>140233442

>implying PGI's LoDs make it possible to see whether or not the stalker is wearing camo and has colors past 300 meters, let alone if it's carrying PPCs or not.

>>140233442
Confirmed for steering wheel

>>140233767
>it's okay to not fix existing problems because other related problems exist

Come on now. That just leads to Jesus patch thinking where all the related fixes get delayed and delayed so they can all come out at once.
>>140233991
you are why we have maskirovka

>>140233478
It's supposed to. Why else would they have made the gun arm fit perfectly into electrical outlets?

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>>140234043

You're bitching that a robot doesn't show what guns it carries, despite the obvious fact that you know what it carries before you even see the black blob LoD.

It's always been this way. Many cancer robots that do have all the guns properly featured don't do a good job showing you what the fuck they are, anyway, like the tiny PPC on the griffin, and every non-machinegun barrel on the wolverine being the exact same thing.

Whether you can see what they have or not and spoilers, you fucking can't because the LoDs are too shit for it past 300~ meters, you'll know their loadout instantly based on where on the field they're actually lurking. A stalker jumps you from around a corner, he probably has surms and medicine lasers. Another stalker is in the backfield, and there's no TAG beam, he obviously has boated larges of some kind. He's got the TAG out, you're gonna get hit by 2000000 LRMs.

It's not like the mech LoDs are the only problem with the game's graphics, anyway, as pic related shows. It's literally everything. Trees, mountains, snow, even the little buildings. The new autistic valley has 2d sprites pretending to be blue fire. I mean, fucking really.

PGI put cancer on about 90% of the robots, but because they're lazy fucks, an AC5 often looks like an AC2, or there's just one AC to rule them all, and a super short goose rifle barrel that you never see because who the fuck runs single goose on anything? The missile cancer literally blends into the LoDs at distance regardless. You can't identify tube count on almost anything past 200 or so meters.

So what I'm saying is welcome to MWO.

>>140235109
only a true mad man would care enough to formulate a thought about this shitty game

>>140234043
>tier1 is meaningless, play enough games and literally anyone can get there
>it only matters to 99th'ers during matches, nearly no one they'll meet doing drops is going to be good enough that'll matter
>you have to be within 200m to really see anything, or 500m with the zoom module (why you'd have it is a mystery, however)
>it's nothing like a tank game, we aren't concerned with armor slope, penetration, overmatch, spalling, after-penetration effects, or literally anything that has to do with tank combat outside of a few tactical concepts like defilade

If you have a decent understanding of the meta you'll know by silhouette the chassis, possibly variant, and likely builds (you don't even need to be good at the game). Seeing the actual guns is entirely irrelevant. By the time you are close enough to see clearly you'll have already observed them shoot and determined the build based on the bright lights on your screen.

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>>140235181

You got that fucking right.

Hello I am new to MWO
Is the game p2w?

What engine sizes are good for the marauder?

>>140237593
http://metamechs.com/mwo-tier-lists/meta-tier-list/

>>140237591
no

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>>140233478
wow wtf my centurion doesnt even remotely look anything like this. WTF PGI downgraded my centurion to half assed version of awesomeness I see on this screen? ...dafuq.

>>140146005
>Hucast

Seriously? your betting on that neckbeard for the tourny. Have fun with that first round guys
<8

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this nigga actually trying to compare red smoke and coolshots to crouchjumping and reload cancelling. vass why did you recommend posting on the forum this is torture

>>140240294
Whocast is more reliable than Rather "i am a klord too" Dashing

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Memes.

Marauders are a pain in the fucking ass to pilot and I hate myself for buying one

>mfw trying the trial dire wolf
It's so fucking fat, how do you even play this thing.

Are there any clan assaults that aren't terrible?

>>140156289
kingfisher when

>>140246123
warhawk.

>>140237591
yes

>>140246123

No, clan assaults are shit.

>>140247180
>those side torsos
Yeah no

>>140176210
or if you can slap 6 lrm-5 on a 135+ kmh mech

>>140247535
kodiak :^)

>>140245431
On a side note, I transplanted the xl300 into my ac40 jager and I'm running at 80kph destroying side torsos all day

>>140247995

>mech comes out in two months.
>gud robutt.

>>140247745
That only means you don't have to twist very much. ;)

Hello?

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>>140243928

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wew

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>>140208878
i bet you like Matt Plog

(atleast his grasp of perspective has gotten "better" over the last 20 years)

>>140235109
What map is this? I swear I played it once and never saw it again.

>>140254506
Plog is A-OK in my book. Except for how he copy/pastes gauss rifles so they look like some MC escher bullshit 90% of the time.

>>140254915
Forest colony, the old snowy version.

>>140246123
Steering wheel or meme?
>I actually can't tell

>>140255038
nothing ever seems to quite line up right in plogs art. always as you put it "MC Escher bullshit" its more noticeable with gun barrels sure. But its EVERYTHING all the time. the more i look at the images, the worse i see.

>>140255038

>plog.
>A-okay.

He's a hack, and he's not afraid to admit it.

>>140256331
He has been much better about his weird lines. The few designs I have seen illustrated for the /btg/RO are great. But the copy/pasted gun barreles just puzzle me for probably this reason>>140256487

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I think the reason why clan assaults are so terrible is because the UACs are so terrible. It's like you see a guy with dual ultra autocannon 20s and you're like "lmao come tickle me with your 12-ton machineguns, I dare you" and just go 1on1faggot them in your 25 ton light without giving a fuck.

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>>140261330
Mostly they're shit because either you have fast with shield arms but horrible podspace (exe, sprudomech) or armed to the teeth but squishy, unable to shield boxes (warhawk, diredoge). All of them are united in low mounted hardpoints.
Diredoge on top of that is the most static thing imaginable.
There is nothing that's just solid. Warhawk comes closest bu it has severe awesome syndrom.
Speaking of clam uac on assaults.
Clam uac5 is the only reliable one, with just two shells per click. And only the diredoge, with all its massive drawbacks, can take a significant amount of them. Uac10 is basicaly only ok against large targets and adds to the inflexibility of clam assaults and uac20 is just a joke.

>>140261330
It's a combination of poor hitboxes, poor weapon mechanics, lack of tonnage for weapons, lack of hardpoints for weapon saturation to compensate for lack of tonnage, and in the case of the Dire Wolf, lack of mobility.

A Dire Wolf that surprises it's target or is part of an ambush where it's not the primary focus will mow down any assault in seconds. It just won't make it there, nor will it survive for long beyond the initial shock and awe. Dire Wolves need acceleration and deceleration buffs to let them traverse terrain and reposition.

A Gargoyle has the potential to be a great laser brawler. It's problem is it's humongous and 'roided up torso hitboxes making it really easy to take them off. Most commonly a properly twisting gargoyle will lose it's arms before it loses it's side torsos, but since Gargoyles have all their weapons in the arms they'll effectively be neutered at that point. They need some side torso weapon hardpoints to make them capable of lasting in a fight and remaining a threat beyond the initial engagement.

An Executioner is essentially a Banshee. Gratned, it's one of the less worse off clan assaults, but it also cannot mount any of those hard hitting weapons to truly make it feel like an assault. If it could take off some of the jump jets, it'd be really great.

A Warhawk can get SOME weapons on it while having adequate mobility, but it's lacking in hardpoints and they're all rather low positioned. Not to mention it's hitboxes make it an easy target for return fire, and it's weapon loadout is essentially that of a heavy clan mech.

>>140261330
Where are all of these assaults that run 20s, outside of the Atlas, which doesn't have the hardpoints to use the tonnage if it forgoes the 20?

>>140261330
>>140263876
>>140263992

>steering wheel as far as the eye can see this morning

Especially you fucks talking about the dire as if it's bad, when it's obviously in the top 5 assault chassis. On top of that even the worst of clan assaults are better than well over half of the extant IS assaults.

>>140264598
Dual ac20 mauler is evil if you want to do short range with it.
Way better than dual ac20 king crab, since it can shield with it's arms well and has no problems with convergance.

>>140265219
There are at least 3 other ballistics builds that are far better than ac40. In fact there isn't a single variant where ac40 is better than U/AC5 spam

Learn how to trade in your JM6, high mounts, decent speed, and just enough space for the guns and some ammo makes it literally the best 40 platform

>>140263876
>>140263992
The unfortunate space and/or weight restrictions on a lot of the clan assaults and the weapon mechanics really fuck it, there's no benefit to having a huge gun over a battery of small lasers or surms that even tiny ass mechs can mount. They really should've just not memed up the ultra autocannons so badly.

Will you asshats let us have Maxi pad please?

Sincerely Clan Wolf

>>140266094
The other ballistic builds serve a compleatly different purpose. It happens that usualy they're more usefull but still. They require a lot of facetime while the ac40 can shield inbetween shots. While JM6 is good as ac40, its squish as fuck and compleatly unable to lead any pushes. It's more of a skrmisher. Again a different purpose. Don't tell people to learn shit.

I don't hate this game. I hate the people who play this game and never try to improve.

>>140265219
Quad LBX Mauler is Dangerous.

>>140268096
>lbx
What are you going to do, spread your hot pellets all over me?

Maybe not with the buffs though, I've never touched the lbx

>>140267915
This. It's actually a solid game, it's just dragged down by all the forum idiots.

>>140268259
LBX 40 is scary on that machine, Its ment to brawl not to fire from a distance, plus with the Mx90 its god like.

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>>140269084
>play with pubs after playing with kong for 100 games
>mining colony
>nobody pushes to the middle
>3-4 groups stumble around the map
>get to middle, even enemy didn't care
>murder 1-2 macross and hold onto the middle with a bro stormcrow
>enemy ignores us so free damage
>slowly team grinds to death
>I die, surrounded
>stormcrow dies, surrounded
>game over, 800 damage
>enemy team avg damage 300
>my team avg dmg 70
>mfw

I miss you kong

>>140270550
B-b-b-but i'm not Kong.. I'm in Clan Wolf.

>>140270550
>group queue
>12-0 or 0-12 in 3 minutes
>ggclose

>solo queue
>??????????
>10 minutes and 1100 damage later you're spectating a legged locust fighting a LRM mauler who is out of ammo and the game ends in a draw because neither of them could kill the other

>>140272354
>tfw 11-11 and you're the only one left
>against a pristine atlas

>>140273145
>dying to an atlas
get this F-teamer out of here.

>>140273259
I won but my heat level was critical irl, you can feel all those stares from the spectators man.

>>140273568
We were watching you..

Was crimson strait more tropical at one point? I recall a map that looked like a tropical island when I played 2 years ago. Cannot find anything like it though.

>>140275473
no

So I have either the Worst luck with UAC or so, After my first shot my gun jams. Would it be better to just go AC instead of UAC?

>>140276498
not with clans