/dsg/ - Soulsborne GEN

Anyone got that skeleton bridge webm?

First for Iudex's Halberd is cute, CUTE!

>only boss weapon that truly feels like the boss's weapon is Farron Greatsword and Dancer blades
Why the hell aren't Pontiff's weapons a dual wield type

hype for pc release

What do you reckon will come first, a bug fix mod or nude mod?

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>>138029607

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How do we solve the Havel Estoc problem?

>>138029675
Infinite HP and instant curse mod.

>>138029682
Fantastic, thanks.

>>138029660
Yhorm's cleaver literally has his moveset though. Although that isn't very impressive considering he has like three attacks.

>>138029739
I said it last thread, pull out a good shield and an estoc and give them a taste of their own medicine, they'll get bored and black crystal out every time.

>>138029824
How do we beat* Havel Estoc

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>>138029739
scythes deal damage even on block. its really fun to fuck havel users with them. they get so used to blocking that they dont know answers for it

>>138029694

Agreed, and the issue here is that the FUGS nerf doesn't make the other terrific ultra weapons with the same amount of damage like Yhorm's worse, it just invalidates FUGS alone because the few people From seems to listen too complain while they don't fix real problems. Not much we can do sadly unless there's some way I haven't heard of for English players to have internet contact with From.

>>138029889
Not losing is the same as winning. If they give up and crystal out, you win by default.

>>138029909
I'm so glad only me and like three other people use Yhorm's, It'll never be nerfed if no one uses it.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/d636218c-b67b-41d3-a269-3ccb9388af26

>>138029727
>780
>turn off DoF (which I was going to do anyway because it's fucking ugly and makes games blurry)
>60 fps constant
ayy

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jAQUwgZ4Vw

And soon, all of the waiting /dsg/ posters will bond over DaS3's new experiences.

>>138029660
the boss weapons are so meh

nameless kings and dragon armor seem ok

the shield on dragon armor is stupid as fuck though

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Guys, how do I save Geralt in both Isengard and New Londo?

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>>138030195

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>12:04 AM


where is the preload

>>138029727
>see this
>this means my gpu will hit like 25
Time to refund it

>>138030081
not giving him views

>>138030081
>only dies 6 times
>worlds cheapest boss
to pleb

PRAISE THE SUN

>>138030415
We'll, those benchmarks are at ultra settings 1080p, so I'm sure you could turn some shit down and get good frames.

>>138030547
There's almost no difference between Max and Low settings though.

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If only I could be so grossly incandescent

>>138030547
>ultra
oh thank god maybe I can run it

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>Get the Dragonslayer Axe
>tfw
metal as FUCK

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sunbros ww@

>>138030594
Visually, sure, performance wise there definitely is.

>>138030748
HOW

What's the AR like? Is there any competition for the Butcher's Knife?

>>138030334
new londo is retarded. It requires you talk to Siegward by the fire where he's roasting marshmallows, but you CAN'T continue his quest or go to irrithyl dungeon.
Alternatively, if you never rescue him at all, and don't buy the armor from patches (and let patches keep the armor), patches will save him.
No one has figured out how to save him from the rooftops of lothric castle though. My guess is that it might involve having patches keep the armor and telling him the location, or possibly killing the golden guards before letting him explore.

>>138030795
According to durante's writeup, none of the settings made a meaningful impact on performance outside of resolution.

post one thing that makes you laugh without fail every single time. i'll start.

>abyss gravelord

>>138030950
Dragonslayer armor soul
Not him, but it's complete ass unless you're a str-fai build in this game and hit the soft caps for both.

>>138031085
Aldrich's last supper

>>138031025
Guess I'll play in 720p then.

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wats your favourite dark souls meme?

>>138029660
You just want to be like Kirito, you fag.

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I just wanted to kill the Yharnam bitch but this fire dog is too fucking hard

>>138031085

>>138031009

>>138029557
>Soulsborne

If this is still in the OP by release I'll do nothing of consequence.

>>138031190
Wait, I thought you meant Creighton's dragon slayer axe, not the dragon slayer armour's dragon slayer axe

Dragon slayer.

>>138031234
i know man it's all that's standing between me and the platinum

what is this spam? are we being invaded by leddit?

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>>138030783
J O L L Y B O Y S

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is there horsey in dark souls 3?? XDD praise the sun!!!

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Post the worst souls related song you know of

ill start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N7J802QzP4

1.03 Patch notes? Did FUGS get nerfed?

>>138029660
Has anyone tried wielding them both to see if it alters the moveset as a secret? Might work considering the twin homos swords combine.

>gf gifted me dark souls 3 in march
>had the soundtrack cause preorder
>4 or 5 days ago the soundtrack vanished from my steam
>message steam support
>"HURR YOU NEVER REDEEMED THE GIFT AND YOUR FRIEND SENT IT TO SOMEONE ELSE"
>I redeemed it instantly

Steam supports fucking retarded.

Side note, PRELOAD FUCKING WHEN?

>>138031513
FUGS got fugged

/dsg/, how do I become the Big Guy in DaS3?

Creighton's Mask, Caestus, and Pyromancy (the fire rises)?

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>Summoning The Master, where you would otherwise summon him for Vordt, and going straight to the Dancer by killing Emma makes him LITERALLY IMMORTAL

HOW DO THEY DO IT

HOW

DO

THEY

DO IT

>>138031513
>FUGS pre patch
700 AR
>After patch
570~ AR

It's shit now. The damage now longer justifies the weight.

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reminder to VOTE for your preferred meta if you haven't already

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>>138031652
>~just undead things~

>>138031621
kek

you can get 570 with a 60/60 quality straightsword

can you imagine that? a straightsword R1 that now has the damage of a FUGS

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>>138020415
>three days.
>I get it in 4 days.

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>>138031601
>My sixth sense warned me of danger, and I danced between flurries of blades, unscathed, but alas, my clothes went to tatters.
>DANCED
>DANCER
>UNSCATHED
>TURNS IMMORTAL WHEN FIGHTING THE DANCER

HOLY FUCKIGN SHIT

D E E P E S T
E
E
P
E
S
T

L O R E
O
R
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>>138031652

>>138031621
so we're back to ds2 where ultra weapons were only 20% better than katanas despite double the weight/ stam consumption and half as fast?

>>138031746
the only appeal to it now is the weapon arts which no one gave a shit about

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is sunlight maggot solaire canon

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>>138031548
GATTAI!

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>>138031779

>>138031779
What did they mean by this

Not even Dark Souls 2 nerfed weapons as hard, jesus.

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I can't fucking kill the first vicar lads

>>138031550
you're girlfriend is cheating on you

>>138032009
>2009
>Same year DeS came out

SOMEONE CALL ALDRITCH THIS THREAD IS GETTING TOO DEEP

Is the brass armor any good in DS3? It was my favorite armor set in DS1 and I was fucking pissed at how shit it was

>>138032171
I'm sorry, Aldrich is eating at the moment. Can I take a message?

>>138031746
Yeah but straight swords need a nerf as a whole, and I expect one eventually. hey're way too strong for how fast they are, and they make greatswords literally worthless. I've seen no one using greatswords because they just don't have a purpose anymore.

>>138031832
No, greataxes, some UGSs, and some greathammers can easily reach 600 AR. Only FUGS is shit now, the rest of the Ultra weapons are still alright. If you have good timing you can easily shit on katana users with your hyper armor, or one shot them with parries, etc.

I will say this, though:If any more Ultra weapons get nerfed, it's going to spell doom for Ultra weapons in Dark Souls 3, as they aren't "OP" right now, not one of them, so if they start to get randomly nerfed, we're going to have a Dark Souls 1 BKGA fiasco on our hands where perfectly balanced weapons get nerfed just because they are stronger than dex weapons.

Don't get too attached to your Ultra weapons, is all I'm saying. I wouldn't want my fellow STR bros to get hurt again.

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>>138029727
>GEFORCE GTX 980 4 GB
>60 FPS

delicious

Does anyone have a link to the imgur album of the dark souls 3 sets?

>>138031746
>you can get 570 with a 60/60 quality straightsword
for real?

first one to post asylum demon twerking gets early access to dark souls 3

>>138032109

Are you forgetting the MLGS and Santier's Spear (for a limited time for the latter admittedly)?

What is the dark souls' of RTS, dsg

>>138032354
I doubt any straight sword other than the Darksword can achieve that.

>>138032256
they really nerfed the fugs in the wrong way

the appeal to the weapon was its weapon arts. the problem is no one even cared for it in 3. it just had huge fuck damage so everyone went to it.

they could have made it take more stamina, less fp for weapon arts so people would be inclined to use it more, less hitstun etc

but a flat damage nerf for how heavy it was and the str requirement is fuckin ridiculous

>>138032517
Yeah, I'm feeling REALLY fucking nervous right now, if they nerf my Yhorm's cleaver, butcher knife, dual axes, etc. I'm dropping the fucking game, I'm not going to play straight sword+rapier Souls AGAIN.

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Is this set in dark souls 3?

damn you guys weren't joking about greatshields

just invaded one with a lance and literally could not get through it with my greataxe

when i was almost dead he took out a longsword to try to finish me off and i ended up 2 shotting him but still wow

>>138032665
ye

>>138032340
please somebody

im dying of cancer and i wont get the chance to play dark soul 3

>>138032665
Creighton's is, grave warden's isn't. Dunno about the other pieces.

>>138032692
All three of them? I've only seen screenshots of the helmet.

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Like I said in the previous thread, I think miracles are great just the way they are. People just need to know how they work.

Lightning miracles require close proximity. It is best to use hyperpoise from a talisman's weapon art, and you should be able to wreck the shit out of someone with sunlight spear (should cause +1200 dmg if you are close)

I kind of wish they would lower the fp cost and maybe extend the range, but regardless, they still do great damage if you are close.

This along with the fact that there's a bunch of great miracle utilities and a miracle version of chaos firestorm along with some good pve miracles like WoG makes being a faith caster really viable

>>138032774
>giving up quality tier damage on melee weapons for casting a few miracles that only work if you're literally right next to someone

no

>>138032461
it's fucked if they can even reach 500, the absolute best you could get from a straight sword in das1 was 455 and it was with 99 in str and dex

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Is /dsg/ up for one final run on Ps4? NG+7, can summon 9M and beyond :D I figure this would be one nice final send-off for the game before I dig into DS3 in a few days.

Lemme know if you're down! Will have name ring on Evlana at Cardinal Tower for starters.

>>138032452
>MLGS
All greatswords were unapologetically broken at release. They deserved it.
MLGS is still usable. 1hr1 1hr1 1hr2 is very reliable.
Do you not remember 4 hit combos, rapier speed 1hr2 poke chains, that bullshit 2h running attack?
It didn't get a damage nerf.

Santier's Spear went through several changes, not quite explicit nerfs.
Mundane and twinblade speed got nerfed, this affected it. It recieved an AR buff and changed modifiers on its attacks.

Dark Souls 2 gave huge buffs to ultra weapons MANY times. 136 less AR? fuck yourself

>>138032743
I'm not using grave warden.
It's Agdaynes black robe with Llewellyn gloves with rogue leggins.

Started bb, killed the first two bosses, the one on the bridge and Gascoigne. Gascoigne was a bit hard but okay. The beast was easy and kinda slow.
Running around with kirkhammer now.
Encountered the machine gunner but failed to kill him, I figured, my dmg is way to low to try and defeat him now. I'm level 27 or sow.

So, what should I expect next and should I look out for a new weapon. Kirkhammer seems nice.

>>138032114
yeah you can

equip charred hunter set, dodge behind him, and then when his third phase comes along, wait til he does the flame spray attack and strafe to his left and tear his ass up

>>138032864
I'm almost certain straight swords can get close to 500 AR on a high quality build. At least the Darksword of shittery can.

Boy, Plague is gonna enjoy this game with how strong greatshields are.

>>138032864
IIRC, you could get 495 on a robsoflynn black dragon sword, and that's with like 20/15

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>Game isn't even out in the U.S. and FUGS has already been nerfed

>>138032893
>gave huge buffs to ultra weapons MANY

BUT THEY RUINED THE EXCELLENT CHOICE

UNFORGIVABLE

>>138032638
you're the same fag i had an argument a day ago but now that i sat on it, i realize you're frustration about the FUGS debate

i wanted a nerf, but there are many other ways to make it on-line with other ugs, or other str weapons.

what they did was make the fotm weapon to shift. no intelligent person is going to use it now, despite the weapon art that blocks an attack followed up with an attack.

digress, is dark sword technically the same weaponart?

>>138032958
Ah.
Don't think Agdayne's is in, but Llewellyn is, and I'm sure there's an equivalent of the rogue leggings.

>>138032114
+10 whirlimeme saw and blood beast pellets senpai, makes the fight a joke

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FUGS NERFED EDITION

>>138033074
>implying the US matters. ever.
go enjoy donald trump or soemthing

Anyone knows if there's the equivalent of the Red Eye Ring in DaS3?

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>>138033187
Agdaynes was the most important part, I loved that chest piece.
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

>>138033001
Kirkhammer will do you fine, any weapon will. Leave and keep playing to avoid spoilers.

>>138032893

The greatsword 4-hit combos were an issue after the MLGS was nerfed, I'm talking about the CMW MLGS nerf. Not only was the MLGS slowed down noticeably compared to other greatswords even when the 4-hit nerf was enacted, but it was made unbuffable. And this was when people had no idea how elemental defenses worked in 2, and no one had proper INT/FAI along with other items to counteract pure magic damage. The MLGS in 2 already had the worst moveset of them yet in the series, the 2H version mostly, and afterwards it was complete garbage, especially once people figured out how to minimize elemental damage almost completely if not fully.

The only real use for it after was Enchanted infusion with RoB+2 and Flynn's for a gimmick pure physical MLGS, and even then the moveset is so slow it was great weapon tier. Almost no one used the MLGS afterward for good reason, and it being the first major nerf of 2 and it never being corrected shows From just nerfs base on demand and not on what is actually a problem or not.

>>138033001
don't kill the machine gunner, just avoid him

kirkhammer is good. you can get a greatsword after you beat the boss of old yharnham. after you do that many paths open up at once

>>138033074
When Dark Souls 2 was released for PC, Lost Sinner and Last Giant were already hugely nerfed

I'll bet they hid some boss nerfs in 1.03

>>138032864
44 luck 16 str 18 dex anri sword only grants me 408 ar. dark sword is top tier at this point

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>>138033235

>>138033280
There's probably something similar you could use.

On that note, anyone have the imgur gallery of armor sets?

>>138033074
DS2 mlgs got hit pretty quick as well, its not unprecedented

Who META here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-sxbsAOxM

>>138033330
This isn't even related, but that post made me remember when they announced they were nerfing Four Kings, and giving New Londo ghosts souls on death.

>>138033235
>raita art
disgusting

>>138033330
If you wanna go further PC version of PTD had everything nerfed. No powerful lightning weapons, no OHKO Cap's Shield, aggro of Dragon Asses were cut down, removed Cursed stacking, and so on.

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>>138033178
>you're the same fag i had an argument a day ago

I'm not because I was playing Dark Souls 3 all day yesterday. I'm not the only one pissed about the precedent that the FUGS nerf is going to set.

If you're a STR player and this nerf doesn't make you uneasy, you're living in a fantasy land. If all it took to get FUGS nerfed was a little whining, all you have to ask it "When is it going to happen to MY favorite weapon?"

It happened to the BKGA in 1, it happened to excellent choice in 2 (And many other STR weapons got shit on) and now in 3 the FUGS nerf has happened. The game hasn't even fully fucking released yet.

They haven't even touched on straight swords, estoc turtling, bad magic scaling, storm inifinte, etc. But they've already nerfed the best STR weapon on the game.

AGAIN.

So yes, I'm frustrated, I didn't use FUGS, but this nerf doesn't bode well at all for Ultra weapons.

>All the armor set image albums on imgur were deleted

WHY

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I just read FUGS was nerfed!

How badly? Is it still a viable weapon?

>>138032774
i just assume that everyone is theorydueling, copying youtube videos, and have no idea how the damage mechanics work, and that i will break shit in half myself with a couple hours of testing and some python scripts on tuesday

>>138033570

if you read that why didn't you just read the thread you fucking idiot

is there a power stance-esque moveset for dual caestus in das3

>>138033570
No. It lost 130 AR and is still heavy as fuck, use some other STR weapon.

But then THAT will get nerfed. Enjoy Rapier Souls.

>>138033537
> But they've already nerfed the best STR weapon on the game.

You're saying that like its a bad thing.

FUGS was by FAR the obvious choice for any STR user. Its now brought back into check and balance with other weapons and allows STR users to have more variety while still remaining competitive.

>>138033478
>ghost didn't give souls and Four Kings were harder before
Fascinating, what was the difference between now and then, their attacks didn't have sweetspots or something?

>>138033573

wow you sound like a pro huh :)

>>138033537

Well said anon, you hit the nail on the head. I fear the same things especially since the reddit/twitch crowd are very likely to complain about the next most powerful ultra weapons. The best we can do use the basic facts to prove they aren't nearly as bad as people say and make our case based on how actual matches turn out, and not just when people lose to an ultra weapon every once in a while.

>>138033653
yeah, by two handing your caestus

>>138033537
I bet it wasn't even a PvP nerf, they just saw everyone steamrolling PvE with it, that's why they killed its damage output

Could I get some feedback on this DS2 build for PvP? I originally intended to do an infused weapon + buff build, switching between sunlight blade and resonant weapon, but apparently that type of build is completely outclassed by robflynn with uninfused weapons. Came up with this as sort of a hybrid between being a hexer and melee. Would I be better off dropping my Faith to 30, spicing down sunlight blade, and putting those 20 levels into VIG/END/ADP? I'm pretty new to PvP in this game but I've been having some success with lightning heide sword and the spells I have equipped. PS4 SOTFS is surprisingly active for pvp

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/48370

>>138033653
Yes. Powerstance is gone, but several weapons have a dual-wield mode rather than a two-handed mode. Caestus is one of them.

Pros: Only need to upgrade one weapon, saves a weapon slot, no need to inflate stats to powerstance.

Cons: Only specific weapons can be dual-wielded in this way, can't mix buffs while 'pwerstancing'.

what build do you go for demon fists

>>138033717
No, people will just use Yhorm's as the only good STR weapon instead.
It was already nearly as good, now it is the best.

So magic fixed?
>reddit say yes

>>138033717
But that's just it. Now that FUGS is nerfed, what's next?

Yhorm's? Then what? Some other Ultra weapon? Then what? Again and again until STR is fucking shit.

It's not the FUGS nerf that's bad, it's that all it took to make it happen was ten whiny japs and a few streamers.

>>138033837
so people switch to yhorms. Whats the issue?

Not being able to 1 shot niggers anymore?

Now you need to land 2 hits?

>patch
Where are the details though? Literally no source in the thread what so ever.

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>>138033852
>reddit

>>138033920
Read>>138033880

The nerf cycle is going to continue until there are no good STR weapons.

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>>138033852
>source: reddit
>actually going to reddit

>>138033239
Maybe the Skull Ring?

>>138032861
enjoy not one shotting people

>>138033880
TBQH all the broken overpowered shit needs to be brought into line. This is just the first step into making the game better.

Estoc turtling needs to be gutted
Oneshot magics need to be gutted
Obscuring ring needs to be deleted from the game
Longsword needs to be gutted
If Yhorms GS turns out to be bullshit as well, needs to be gutted.

>>138033537
the nerf was going to happen before we even fuckin discussed it anon

they keep track of deaths by a certain weapon, mob, effect etc.

dont ever react with an anime face again if you want to be taken seriously.

>>138033719
Four Kings all had more poise, spawned/attacked quicker and did more damage. You could still Havel your way through it, but they'd get a stagger on you quicker than they do now and do more damage. It was even more of a nightmare if you went down with Beatrice because they'd spawn quickly as fuck and murder her near instantly

>>138033813
Can you two-hand a Paired Weapon with only 50% of the Str requirement?

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>FUGS autists right now
So FROM just need
>nerf greatshields+estoc
>fix 80% weapons and WA

>>138034012
fucking retards I swear on me mum.

>>138033537
oh no str users arent going to have a go to weapon to use now since they nerfed the only greatest strength weapon

theres other weapons you know

>>138034069
and then we will have a new DaS2 where everything has been neutered
how about buffing other things instead of nerfing anything?

>>138034069
Obscuring Ring is the best thing that has happened to invasions. You're an idiot Anon.

>>138034069
>If Yhorms GS turns out to be bullshit as well, needs to be gutted.

Fuck off, I've been using Yhorm's for more than 200 matches and it isn't even close to bullshit. But just because it can kill people in three or four hits, it's going to get nerfed.

They'll ignore the sub par moveset with useless rolling and running attacks and nerf it on damage alone. That's what people aren't fucking getting, Ultra weapons don't have good fucking movesets, without their damage they'll be fucking shit.

>>138034028
>>138033975
Yes, because this thread is useless as always
>no patch notes in OP
I'm pretty sure frame data will appear on reddit first too

Does anyone know if the Crow Demon's Curved Greatsword even exists? It shows up on the wiki and it has been mentioned before in articles talking about DaS3 and weapon arts, but there is no other information besides that.

>>138034164
Fix or somewhat adjust magic scaling, stop Greatshields being fucking stupid and adjust some rings because stealth shouldn't be a fucking thing after pre-nerf Ring of Fog already caused problems

>>138033570
if you like the weapon art then go for it. if you're a guy who prefers damage then look elsewhere

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>>138034069
DONT YOU DARE VIOLATE MY WEAPONFU
ILL FUCKING STAB YOU

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>>138034097
I'm not sure. Most of the dual-wield weapons have relatively low strength requirements. The highest required strength for any dual weapon is 20, shared by the Winged Knight Twinaxes and the Demon's Fist, so even if you can't it's not a huge investment for any of them.

>>138034261
so everything oneshots everything else?

Ok enjoy your 1-chain estoc stunlocks.

its called power creep, and needs to be brought into line.

>>138034442
Someone should keep it not updated to see what was changed.

>>138034458
>1-chain estoc stunlocks.
What

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>>138034261
>everything has been neutered

>>138034435
Face it anon.

Now that FUGS is dead, Yhorm will be flocked to as it has the second highest damage, and it'll be nerfed.

Then the next strongest STR weapon will be nerfed, then the next, etc.

I've already started my estoc turtling character. If From is going to ruin STR again, I'll encourage every STR player to just shit the game up until STR gets buffed back up.

>>138033852
Where in Reddit does it say it was fixed? I just checked and there's nothing on it.

>>138033737
i sound like a guy who can fit linear equations

>summon faith/int build for duel
>casts three buffs on himself
>buffs weapon
>second chance
>sips blue estus
>proceeds to run away the entire fight so he can actually cast spells

remind me why people want to use this kind of build?

>>138034664
word. gonna do the same thing
fuck from

>>138034664
>I've already started my estoc turtling character. If From is going to ruin STR again, I'll encourage every STR player to just shit the game up until STR gets buffed back up.

Realistically speaking this is what everyone should do to make sure Estoc turtling gets nerfed finally sooner rather then never.

>>138034664
FUG was OP as fuck
Yhorm's machete aint by any means OP.

>>138034664
i thought meme sword was op becuase of damage+reach+moveset

Why do I find the serpents on DS3 so much weird and perilous than I found them on DS1?

They were always shady but our first contact with them was with Frampt and he was silly and had a funny voice. If you went to Kaathe he was a little eerier because of the area and the infodump. But I am fucking terrified of them in DS3, every mention of them sends shivers down my spine, the fucking statues, the Angel's, Yuria wearing clothes that make her look like one. It's terrifying, like they are an unstopabble unseen force. It's so weird. They seem so powerful in this game and we don't even see them. This is fucking great.

Even then I still hope for them to show up in the DLC.

>>138034069
>oneshot magics need to be gutted
if you get hit by magic then you deserve to be one-shot because you fucking suck

I'm a bit curious, how many of the people complaining about this were surprised and saddened when From actually had the sense to fix Meat Cleaver in Demon's Souls?

Is the Bonewheel Shield good? If not, are there any other offensive shields?

So equip load % doesnt change stamina regen anymore, but vitality does increase your flat damage resistance.

Also, apparently you take a flat damage penality for not wearing armor in a slot. https://youtu.be/2MKc9ejlUYs

>>138034863
>Yhorm's machete aint by any means OP.

Just you wait anon, give it a week or so after western release. Just wait, once the streamers get their hands on it, everyone will use it, then the cycle renews again.

>>138034940
But Yhorm's actually does have Damage+Range.

Just lacks a really good moveset.

>>138034942
You are expecting not to be disappointed, dont.

>>138034645
not even the best curved sword, should have posted the estoc anyway

>>138035048
If it aint OP not many will care that much
even if it becomes popular, the more enjoyable itll be to shit up the fags using it badly with the thing myself

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How do I do a Satsuki (best girl) cosplay in Dark Souls 3?

Maybe Satsuki in Senketsu, is Desert Sorceress in? Hopefully in DLC. Pyromancy as well maybe.

Yorshka is a little cutie too. Maybe a lemon Yuri pairing... And I don't even normally go for that.

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>>138035185
I wish I could be as optimistic as you. I already got burned once when the BKGA got fucked, I don't want to get hurt again man.

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>muh pvp

Fuck off.

>>138035085
I finished the game and I am not disappointed, anon. I HOPE we see then in the DLC but if we don't it will still be fine by me.

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>>138035292
Well there is a dual katana weapon, so you're covered there, but no one has found any slutwear yet. Yorshka is objectively inferior to Priscilla in every way.

daily reminder that gamesplanet is selling ds3 for 42 usd

>>138035456
who care...

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>mfw no one uses halberds so I never have to worry about them getting nerfed

>>138035502
Halberds are trash anyways.

>>138035292
Weab cosplayers are almost worse than DS2's Undertale cosplayers

>>138035424
Yorshka might not be Priscilla, but I'd put them on equal footing personally, or a little in favour of Priscilla. And her head tentacles are fucking cute

>>138031548
Nope, I've tried. That was my main reason for going into NG+ the first time.

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>trying to parry in pve
>trying to farm souls with the ABYSMALLY low amounts you get (especially from early-game enemies)

this is hell; such is my penance for trying to start with not-knight, i guess. did FROM want so badly to force multiplayer interaction that they just made it so you HAVE to play it to afford to level?

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>>138035292
the 'sluttiest' set in game is dancers and that's a full plate.

>>138035407
>PVE
>in singleplayer game

>>138035559
rude

they are alright, Iudex's bardiche and winged knight get solid AR and have great range. I mean sure I get fucked by estocs, but half the weapons classes do too.

>>138034940
Yhorms has more reach. There are several ultra weapons with reach and damage to match the FUGS and its moveset was actually shit. Those 2H R1s are the worst ultraweapon attack in the game, and parryable to boot.

FUGS was flocked to because it was a literal meme. Everyone just assumed because people were using it and it was working that it must be the best and so decided to use it too, then people saw even more people using it and assumed the same, and so on. It was already being dropped by most band-wagoners by the time from nerfed it, because people were realizing it wasn't actually all that special and the moveset was really holding it back.

Anyone with the game, I can confirm that Heavy Barbed Straight Sword + Havel Shield + Bleed buff + Kingslayer Ring, will absolutely rape the fuck out of any Havel Estoc you see. :^)

>>138033794
nobody?

>>138035614
Are you not wearing the silver serpent ring?

>>138035614
What do you really need to farm souls for? Just progress the game with covetous silver serpent ring and you'll be fine.

I do agree that early game you don't get shit for souls but it's not that bad.

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Anyone for Bastille and Sinner on Ps4? 9M+!

>>138031601
Liar. He got fucking raped.

My computer uses a Radeon R7 200 series, how fucked am I?

>>138035752
Now post webm/video.

>>138035614
>Not using kings shield
>Not wearing silver ring
>Not wearing symbol of avarice

STEP.IT.UP.

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>>138035843
Test it for yourself :^)

The days of Havel Estoc are numbered. All hail Barbed Straight Sword.

>>138035703
so whats the issue? A weapon no one uses got nerfed?

it doesn't affect anyone at all, so why are people bitching?

>FUGS was OP
HOW? The damage was good but the thing was so slow.

>>138035961
Japanese people are bad at videogames, and From sucks at balancing.

It tells you a lot that they nerfed FUGS, instead of Greatshields / Estoc.

>>138035961
damage was too good and made PvE trivial is how.

>trying to imply attack speed means anything in pve.

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>>138035292
Is Farron's Greatsword actually viable or is it just a gimmick that will tail off aver time? Or is it already even being ignored?

It's a fucking Dex Greatsword with D/A in Str/Dex. How could that not be good? Can't you also buff it? What if you go full Carthas Buffs Farron Greatsword along with Carthus Flame Arc? Would that be possible?

I like this sword so much more after reading "Confounds foes in the manner of wolves hunting prey."

>>138035601
Yorshka has HEAD TENTACLES?

>>138035947
Because most of us never got a chance to use a cool weapon when it was usably good. Now it's shit and actually overpowered things are still overpowered, all because nips are autistic.

>>138035961
It cleaved shitters apart, and if you had good prediction you could fuck up people with your hyper armor if they went for running or rolling attacks.

It was a defensive weapon that forced your opponent to adopt an extremely defensive playstyle to avoid getting two shot. Elevens didn't like the fact that it forced them to do something other than mash R1 with straight swords, as that's all they seem to know how to do right now.

>>138036069
Because it loses to Havel / Estoc, so its not really worth discussing.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

*breathes*

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUME ULTRA GREATSWORD USERS BTFO!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO UTTERLY DESTROYED ENJOY GETTING PARRIED BIG POOPOO SCRUBS LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*cackles off into the distance*

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>>138035640
Dancer is the sexiest character in the game by far.

>>138036069
Very small and cute ones. At least, that's what I think of them as, they don't seem like part of her hair

>>138036069
It's got a crazy flippy-dippy L1 combo while wielded with it's dagger. L1 meaning it's not it's WA (that's a parry) and therefore costs nothing to use. So it's a dex greatsword with an animu as fuck combo that can parry (quickly, as it's a dagger parry). The L1 combo is also apparently decent for dead angling.

It's probably viable, but not optimal.

>>138031885
No, he links the fire.

>>138036069
Farron's Sword is certainly usable, but it suffers from a lack of 2H attacks as those are unparriable for horizontal UGSs.

It's a weapon that basically boils down to its L1s, and when that's all it's really good at, it gets repetitive and easy to predict. If you use it, for God's sake please try and be unpredictable, no one is going to get hit from a neutral L1, as they've already dodged it 1000 times by now.

>>138035961
retards tried to trade with it

>fugs 2 shots people
>people complain that it's op
>fugs now 3 shots people
>people complain that it's shit

fuck i hate half of you people, every fucking game this happens and shits up the threads because the same 3 people can't stop complaining about how a 20% damage nerf from a weapon that did 60% health per swing is a bad thing

>>138036205
>*action*
>>/reddit/

>>138036691
>muh pvp

>>138036691
>20%

You can use percentages to make it seem like less of a nerf, but we're talking
130
3
0
AR

It's fucking shit, not because it can't kill in two hits, but because other weapons are now as strong as it, without being as heavy.

YOU FUCKIGN RETARD

>>138036691
FUGS retards just ass blusted. Three hits need skill

>>138035101
>Red Rust Sword
>Curved Sword
Wow you are dumb my man. It's a straight sword with axe movesets and S tier STR scaling. Shit was literally one of the most viable PvP weapons in DaS 2 from start to finish.

>>138036851

>60% damage to health
>20% of 60 is 12%
>weapon now does 48% of original damage
>barely misses out on 2 shotting people depending on armour
>basically guaranteed 3 shot

shut the fuck up mate holy shit, so you're complaining that it's ar got nerfed to normal ultra weapon ar? what the fuck is wrong with you

So, what with all the copies getting out, when will we expect to see a functioning torrent?

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Is it possible to butcher DS1 graphics for it to run smoothly on my old toaster? I can get it to run but only in like 5 fps

>>138033074
proof?

>Invading for 2 hrs straight since patch
>No FUGS encounters at all!
>About to post on 4changs about it
>read about nerd

Woo FROM did something right!

>>138037058
never. the copies getting out still have to download the rest from steam, so unless someone leaks their press copy we get nothing

>>138037042
I'm only responding to your stupid ass one more time.

It is now as weak as regular UGSs while being TWICE AS HEAVY

GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING SKULL

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Just played about an hour of Dark Souls 2 for the first time.

What happened?

Why are the graphics worse than Dark Souls?

The UI is a clusterfuck and the first enemy you fight looks like it was ported from a PS2 game.

Why does it look and feel like Two Worlds II?

>1 week ago
>FUGS Isn't good because of its damage, it's good because you literally can't beat its hyperarmour moveset with its L2 poise attack

>after patch
>FUGS has been nerfed to regular ultra weapon AR and is now shit because it has a fucking shit moveset, i just wanted to try it at least once fucking thanks from

you fucking morons

>>138037132
so you think nothing before actual release? I was hoping to play it before my next paycheck came in, which will be after release :/

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>>138037143

>>138037114
Rapier player detected.

>>138037082
holy shit how can anyone achieve this on tf2

IMPORTANT QUESTION: What is the jewiest ds3 weapon?

>>138037383
Uhh, Crystal Rapier ups your drop rate? King shield give more souls?

Don't know what you mean.

>>138037303
But even with FUGS nerfed, rapiers themselves aren't suddenly king. It's the Estoc and only behind a Greatshield. It wasn't that long ago that this general was proclaiming Str king.

>>138037216
B team, it was a cashgrab

>>138037216
>The UI is a clusterfuck
Anon, what the fuck?

The only difference is that the HP and stamina bars are smaller.

WHO HYPE FOR 12TH

PEE SEA MASTER RACE

>>138037454
>implying the estoc is only good behind a greatshield

Come on man.

>>138037246
yeah unless someone releases their press copy before the 11th it wont happen

>>138037229
>FUGS Isn't good because of its damage, it's good because you literally can't beat its hyperarmour moveset with its L2 poise attack
said fucking nobody

>>138037216
Fucked development cycle. Game had to be rebuilt in 8 months with pieces of the old build. Consoles couldnt handle lighting + from being bad at optimizing. A shame. The game is still OK, though, and the DLC is much better than vanilla.

>>138037454

honestly anything that can shield poke with a greatshield is fucked atm

i could do literally nothing to this one guy with a greatshield and a spear, he would just shield poke me whenever i attacked and constantly moved backwards

shield poking itself should cost like 40% of your stamina if this is gonna be fixed somehow
funny enough the only thing that stopped this in previous games were the backstab mechanics

>>138037574
It is in DaS3. The complaints against the Estoc only apply when a Greatshield is letting them turtle. If they can't turtle, the Estoc isn't suddenly an overpowered weapon.

>>138037229
crutch babies cares only about AR

>>138037589

were you here a week ago?

that's all everyone fucking

>YOU CAN'T BEAT IT WITH NORMAL WEAPON BECAUSE HYPER ARMOUR
>YOU CAN'T BEAT IT WITH ANOTHER STENGTH WEAPON BECAUSE L2 POISE ATTACK

and now that the damage is reduced it's suddenly the fucking bane of str weapons

>>138037635
>from being bad at optimizing
But DS2 ran really well compared to DS1 and can easily hold 60 in PC/PS4

>>138037660
See, this is what I mean. It's really just Greatshields that need changing somewhat. Spear turtles were always present, they were just also really easy to dance behind and backstab or parry because it's a fucking spear.

The Estoc is strong and always has been, but it's currently just piggybacking off the fact Greatshields are dumb

so since ds3 came out to the consoles earlier, does this mean it'll be somewhat balanced when it releases on PC?

I just don't want a repeat of blatantly overpowered shit like buffstacking havelmages using resonant santiers in ds2 and the idiot stick in ds1

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>>138037229
people only used it because of the two shot potential. I honestly didn't see a problem with it. It was only good in ganks. 1 on 1 it was garbage unless you were an idiot and tried to trade with it or block it without a greatshield. The REAL problem is estoc+greatshield right now. greatshield of glory and havel's coupled with that is nigh unbeatable.

>>138037660
>mfw I tried using the manserpent shotel to beat a greatshield player but the damage was shit

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO MIYAZAKI?!

>>138037790
But it was a PS3/360 game.

how is the gotthard twinswords?

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So /dsg/ I have a confession. I never finished DS2. I've never actually played the whole game + DLC and NG+. I need to finish that damn game before DS3 drops on Steam, so does anyone have a recommendation for a build/playthrough to actually make the game fun? Hex is just boring, pyro has like 2 fun pyromancies and there's so many goddamn weapons that figuring out a build to be able to use the fun ones is a headache.

Anyone got any ideas?

>>138037826

Buffstacking is still in and hasn't been patched, and Greatshield turtling is just as strong and hasn't been patched yet. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

>>138037790
because the game has been gutted, it's fugly and has nothing to show, of course it runs good

Oh no, they nerfed my big log of shit on a stick. How will I live on.

>>138037869
And ran at a constant 30 with no problems unlike DaS 1 and DeS, it always ran at 60 with almost on drops on PC even with mediocre hardware.

DS2 had its share of issues but optimizing wasn't one of them

>>138037826
Anon, the game is also done on PC. They just released the japanese version early.

>>138037873
One of the better twin weapons, as it has actual fucking range.
>drang hammers
>twin axes
>twin daggers
>twin curved swords

All have no range, but get hard twin swords are great for poking.

Good WA too.

>>138037992
>And ran at a constant 30 with no problems unlike DaS 1 and DeS

Did it? I played only on PC. Anyway, this is exactly why they had do downgrade it so much.

>>138037973
honestly this, i'm glad fugs is fucked just because it looked so, so dumb

>>138037589
That's what literally everyone was saying right up until it got nerfed. Fuck off with this revisionist history

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>>138037898
Powerstance two rapiers, don't ever use a shield. Go all the way through with your trusty Rapiers until Giant Lord, go back to Drangleic Castle and get the Espada Ropera and Royal Dirk. Use them to the end of the game as a fencer

>>138037973
What's your favorite weapon? How would you feel if it got nerfed? That's why some people are a little upset.

>>138038156
Everyone knows about the downgrade, but the point stands, a game that holds a steady framerate all the time and doesn't dip is what well optimized means.

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So what everybody in /dsg/ that has a copy already progress so far? English version's online servers is not up yet so I'm stuck farming items and etc.

>>138038156
played it on PS3 and no, not at all
it didn't have parts as bad as blighttown but it certainly didn't run at constant 30

>>138038189
My favorite weapon is literally any weapon that doesn't look like a giant crusty piece of shit on a stick.

>>138038302
Optmization is more than removing assets and texture quality. It's to code it in a way that runs well EVEN with all the pretty shit.

I just saw a bluedude attacking his host. What is this madness?

>>138038352
I've beaten the game twice now and am basically collecting as many STR weapons as I can to see what's good or not so I can ignore what's shit for when I play the English version.

>decide to try out assisting people against O&S
>host is a fucking faggot who made me do most of the work
Ahh, if only I could kill him for that

>>138038352
Servers for the english PC version have been up for two weeks, weird that the console ones didnt

>>138038453
you sure he wasn't a codeine nig

>>138037909
>GS turtling

is there a shotel in ds3?
>>138038003
fucking japs

>>138038610
>is there a shotel in ds3?

There are multiple, one of them is a giant shotel with good base AR and solid reach, with the huge horizontal swings of an axe class weapon.

UNFORTUNATELY they still don't do enough damage to greatshields.

>>138038610
>>is there a shotel in ds3?

Multiple, they're all shit for shieldpiercing.

>>138038610
There's a shotel, and a handful of other weapons that get around shields. Doesn't help much. Greatshields are really fucking strong.

If only dead angling were back

>>138038439
No it's not.
A well optimized game is a game that runs well and bad hardware and scales well with good hardware
DS2 does exactly that.

End of "discussion", you are flat out wrong about what the words mean. You said something dumb on an anime imageboard, face it and let it go since you sure as shit aint gonna backpedal out of the hole you dug for yourself.

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>>138038657

>>138038657
you posted this shit already m8

>>138038752
but muh wolf sword can durd angle!

If GS's are this strong, then is bonewheel finally not shit and actually fun?

>>138031779
I was wondering if It was intentional and not a bug for this very reason

>>138038815
now that you replied to him he's gonna post it five more times
good job faggot

>>138038831

_no

>>138038657
Nobody has ever cared about whatever the fuck this shit is. Why do you persist?

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>Mfw there's a guy in this general who uses greatshields and is jerking himself off while reading all this frustration

I know you're in here you fuck

>>138038713
>>138038725
>>138038749
i see.

and guard breaking is no longer a thing i assume?

one of the handier things ds2 introduced i guess

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binge watched all the bosses in ds3. I couldnt stop myself after Farron......how do I make myself forget...fuck

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>>138038926
fug

>>138036273
Let's just hope one of the DLC let us transform into a long necked, long limbed monster like her.

>>138038762
>scales well with good hardware
but it doesn't, it looks just as ugly with good hardware because of low res textures and no lighting engine? if they were good at optimizing they would have kept the old lighting and the better textures we've seen in the demo
you're the one saying dumb shit here

>>138038762
Trade-offs are not the only form of optimization, captain autismo. And don't forget your meds.

>>138038961

it is but greatshields have MASSIVE stability, you're more likely to run out of stamina trying to guard break them while they're tanking your hits AND shield poking you

>>138038961
>and guard breaking

It absolutely is. Multiple rings and weapon arts are great for helping bust shields open, kicks are a little slow but can occasionally work.

It's just that NONE OF THAT FUCKING WORKS ON GREATSHIELDS.

>>138038961
Kick is back but it's issues are
1) It's a weapon specific thing, some don't even have it
2) It doesn't do enough stamina damage to super high stability greatshilds

>>138038961
only retards got caught by the guardbreak

How do I unlock greatarrows at the shrine handmaiden?
Onislayer arrows and bow fit my character well, but I wouldn't mind having backups

Is there any reason to use Great Machete over Yhorm's Machete

what does Sharpen even do?

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>>138037216
2/10 made me reply

>>138039073
>but it doesn't
It runs at 60 with even average hardware on PC.
Optimization =/= graphical fidelity

>>138039074
What on earth are you failing to convey nigga?

>>138039203
Sharpen is just a temporary damage buff. It's like a really shitty version of warcry.

Great Machete has lower requirements and is lighter by a lot, but that's about it.

>>138038831
Greatshields are only strong for their stability. Their bashes are the worst. Worse than any other Souls game Greatshields.

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>a couple months from now, people will post Remember when STR was good?

>>138039203
No, Great Machete is the weapon you use until you get Yhorm's.

Sharpen buffs your damage for a short time. But so does Yhorm's Warcry WA.

>>138039127
>kick is weapon specific
Literally who thought this was a good idea?

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>shield turtling was a problem since the first game
>INTRODUCING UNBREAKABLE GREATSHIELDS!
the fuck is fromsoft smoking?

>>138038996
I only watched a few boss fights, and I don't regret watching the ones I did watch. I look forward to fighting Pontiff so much with my build. And I still plan to do a no-Stormruler fight of Yhorm

>>138037082
Possible if you have an NVIDIA card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAdZXH0KEmQ

>>138039292
Who knows, it was the same in DaS and was the most annoying thing early game
>Well there is this enemy with a shield guess I have to 2hand and mash R1 until his guard breaks or my stamina runs out or circlestrafe him for a backstab for a year and a half!
The worst part about is that they didn't even give you anything useful as a tradeoff, all the non kick forward+R1 attacks are goddamn stupid and useless

>>138039292
Rapiers and some curved swords get that useless dinky fancy shit from DaS.

>>138039341
are spear pokes still garbage?

Is it really just the estoc that works?

>>138039394
I'm really glad I could spoil Yhorm for myself so I know to avoid stormruler at all costs.
If I had gone into that fight blind I would've immediately gone for the item, seen the name and used it on him only to deprive myself of a bossfight.

>>138039230
>What on earth are you failing to convey nigga?

That you shouldn't talk about anything related to coding and game programming if you don't know anything about it. An ugly game that has little impact on performance isn't "optimized". It's a game with low impact on performance. DS2, basically.

>>138039174
The funny thing was getting the guys who would get baited into raising their shield for it.
>Go to guard break while their shield is down
>They see your hands move but don't catch onto the animation until after it's connected with their now raised shield

>>138039230
and they could have made it run at 300 fps if they took the textures away, 500 fps if they split the polygon counts of everything and 1000 fps if they decided to make it text based
it's not fucking optimization

>>138039476
We're gonna be doing some real shit damage to him, but I am determined to kill him without the gimmick