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You could be playing today if it wasn't for complaining poorfag babbys

Previous Thread: >>136015571

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with International Early Access beginning March 29th, and F2P release beginning April 28th.

>Can I play the game now?
International servers open for Early Access on March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ #1: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895
Early Access FAQ #2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-faq-on-the-latest-announcement/153003

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Early Access begins March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
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BRs can afford $10
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Good luck on this thread, everyone.
I believe in you, you can create a meaningful thread!
Don't forget to report and ignore shitposters of all kinds.
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>>136080053
But I am playing today. Every day since December, to be more precise.
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>paying for a free game
>paying for a free game where the swordsman is the only viable class
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>>136080219

I mean on non Gook servers without 500ping
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>Pre Load Complete

Original beta tester here, this will unlock for me without having to buy shit, yes? I recall them saying that once you got into one beta, you'd be in all of them.
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>Rate my build
>I'll play with my GF
>What is a Token?
>I have 50 ping, is it good?
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https://youtu.be/q69i-bXem9A
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>>136080337
good build
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>>136080289
>swordsman is the only viable class

where have you been? this shit hasn't been true since iCBT2. tree of barb is dead m8 it's tree of archer now. the only reason people want a swordsman in their party late game is because they want someone who can press the swash buckling button and hold C to guard.
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is this it /tosg/? will this happen again in eight days? ;_;
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>>136080289
Are you going to be a fencer or a doppelsoedner?
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spread the love
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>wake up
>22/03
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>>136080471
Doppel, my internet is bad for the fencer's reaction skills.
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>>136080501
Kill yourself
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>>136080545
>my internet is bad

fuck off BR
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KTOS players, is "Sit down once every 10 seconds to regen SP" gone? I ended up doing that the entire goddamned beta. Real annoying, but I felt helpless without it.
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>>136080461
muh

RAGNAROK ONLINE

MUH RAGNAROK ONLINE

MUHHHHHHHH RAGNAROK ONLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

LOOK AT ME

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>>136080501
I can't wait to kiss some cute girls again.
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>>136080592
Not even close, im mexican.

Stay mad, son.
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>>136080627
It's dead, Jim.
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>>136080627
people actually did that? i played a skill spammy class and carried pots around. never did the sit nonsense unless i was hanging around a fire
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>>136080627
Still a thing.
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>>136080627
No, you burn through lvl 10 Alch potions now.
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>>136080501
lmao herpes fountains

I'll be a kiss virgin Paladin girl
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>>136080627
Did you ever get over level 50?
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>>136080698
>im mexican.

just as bad. i bet you share the internet and your room with 5 other people
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>>136080316
hahaha only at end of april
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>>136080501
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>>136080316
ay lamo gudluk
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>>136080891
>There are BRs, that never played the game, that will get in before me, an original beta tester from the start

So this is despair, huh? At least the damage to the translations have been undone, right? BRs can't play on English servers, translation text is in proper English, and all of those disgusting google translating portugese speaking BR bastards got banned, right?
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>>136081132
Ahahahah nope
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>>136080337
excellent build 11/9 pvp dominate
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>>136080734
I found myself frequently running out of Sp as an Archer/Sapper during long engagements with Bosses, so I ended up doing it a decent amount.
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>>136080636
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>>136081132
if you like the game that much just drop a tenner on it, god damn
like I'm a poor eastern european and I'm dropping 90yuro on ME AND MY WIFE but 10 should be fucking nothing for you
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>>136080698
>mexico
>not close to br

both are in south america :^)
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>>136080872
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>>136080501
Don't ever come near my dragoon princess.
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>>136081313
>both are in south america
Dumbass
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>>136081313
Can you stop responding to the mentally deficient tripfag?
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>They can burn Dievdirby statues too
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>>136080358
Best one right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4E4x5HOxo

Too bad most underage faggots can't appreciate the goodness of the music in this game.
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>>136080781
Like this one?
You won't be able to resist.
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>>136080636
w-wow that must be hurt
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5u4fuamd70/

How bad am I at this.
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>>136081579
noot noot
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>>136081734
pretty good
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>>136081734
just do the safe archer2-ranger3-reiter2 build
we can be reiterbros, except im playing a girl :^)
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>>136081734
Dont listen to >>136081851 this is terrible
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>>136081734
its fine
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Does this game have Steam achievements?
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>>136081579
>paladins kissing

degenerate
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>>136081536
It's unfortunate that the game has so many good tunes, and then the places you'll spend 90% of your time (dungeons/missions) all share the same shitty tracks.
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>>136081734
Good build.

>>136081579
Kiss rape is the only way to break pure paladins. That's why I'm making a druid.
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Can you get pregnant in this game?
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>>136082223
no, everyone is gax
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>>136082223
this post made me pregnant with cancer
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>>136080439
Are you an idiot?
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>>136082223
I'll make you pregnant.
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>>136082086
steal 500 kissu
kissu lots of bois
kill 500.000.000 poring
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>>136082176
That's why I wasted most of my CBT time just loitering around some secluded maps.
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Who /play as a man/ here?
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>>136082494
>kissu lots of bois
That's wrong.
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How does Transposing effect max HP? Do you keep the same percentage of HP you had before transposing?

Also does the Int gain from Swell Brain also get Transposed or is that kept separate since it's a buff?
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>>136082557

Are you a faggot or something?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/mlvc4367dl/

I'm not even sure this would work. Anyone playing high level on korean able to confirm if it'd be decent or a waste? I can't find any info on this combo.

>Grass makes friends invincible
>Turn enemy into plant type monster
>Carve them up for materials, wizards burn the newly planted enemy
>Turn into them for the killing blow/for fun

>>136082557
I did. It's tough to be the man among the harem, but someone has to do it.
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>>136082616

You keep the same Hp. Meaning any max Hp you gain needs to be healed.
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>>136082657
very good
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>>136082452
I want to keep cumming inside Yam's pussy until it overflow like a mess
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Bought the 50$ founder pack like a good goy and i know shit about this game.
Anyone can reccomend me a build for a male archwizard specialized in detonate shit?
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this game will be full of erping faggots, thats clearly worst than brs
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@136082864
eq15
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>>136082864
Fuck off to 2ch
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>>136082864

Just go pyro into elementalist.
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>>136082864
Good build
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>>136082864
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122bbb2...5a
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>>136082897
You can easily segregate those.
We'll be acting all friendly in-game while shitting on their chests in /tosg/.
They'll also have their own guild and we'll be able to wardec those subhumans.
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>>136082657
good build
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>>136082864
just make a bald muscular swordman or sth
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>>136083027
decent build
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>>136082864
Of course my man, look no further and ignore shitposters.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ja6o8th469/
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>>136083027
Good build!
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>>136083263
good build
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S-so what are the good heal slut builds? I like to help people.
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>>136083263
Good build
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>>136083460
You can't help people if you can't help yourself
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>>136083460
>using the word "healslut"
fuck off
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>>136083460

Builds that include heal
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You ever get that feeling that IMC is trying to milk this game before abandoning it in a few months?
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>>136083460
Cleric 3 Priest 3 Chaplain
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>>136082864
the real answer is the memementalist build
3wizard-3elementalist-1warlock

its safe and basic, it might be kind of bland, and may not be super optimized for specific tasks, but its one of the most popular builds. leveling as a wizard3 may be hard for a newbie though, or maybe easy since you have nothing to compare it to.
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>>136083460

Cleric 2 for healing, Paladin 3 for more support down the line.
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>>136083589
>Free to play game
>exp from the cash shop
Yes, they'll milk the shit out of it.
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>>136083589
i dunno bro

could it be the cash shop for even the most basic of services
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>>136083589
No, why would you think that?!
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>>136083589
Pretty much everything they've done screams quick cash grab.
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>>136083460
cleric2-priest3-chaplain-plague doctor

cleric2-diev3-druid2

These are cookie cutter builds. I dont know specifics about cleric, these are safe to take.
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>>136083589
>before abandoning it in a few months?

Not gonna happen, they have way too many publishing deals. Worst case (and most likely to happen) they'll set aside a very small team of 4-6 devs to work on the game while the rest of the company focuses on mobile cash grabs to keep itself afloat.
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>>136083589
yeah and you all deserve it
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>>136083696
>>exp from the cash shop
are they actually selling those auto level scrolls now?
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>>136083932
No. Not yet.
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>>136083932
Token is pretty much absolutely necessary.
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>>136084014
False.
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>>136083263
>>136083672
Thanks
Guess i will use these two builds as reference
I also guess "good build" is the shit meme of the thread
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>>136083843
>to keep itself afloat.

Tokens alone guarantee they will have more income than any late90s/early00s mmo

>>136084014
token is not pay2win though, its a soft subscription, something that a respectible mmo would have.

The ideal model for an mmo i think is
1. no initial cost
2. unlimited duration but limited 'free trial'
3. subscription that is required if you want to actually play the game seriously

This is basically the perfect model. As long as they can resist fucking it up with pay2win stuff.

pay2win is when you can pay more than someone else, and get an advantage. Token is capped, you cant pay twice as much for twice as much token and get twice the benifit, so its not a 'bidding war' of who can pay the most to win, its just a flat rate fee, which is what all mmos should be to be honest.
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>>136083843
Setting aside a skeleton crew to manage the game while the rest head off in sports cars is pretty much dead.

As far as kTOS went, it felt like they just stopped giving a shit before trying to monetize every little thing.
Like you can't even trade silver because "gold sellers please use our horrible market goy"
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>>136084204
>buy loads of tokens
>sell them all on the market
SILVER
UNLIMITED SILVER
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>>136084172
>guess "good build" is the shit meme of the thread
yes

ignore the pyro3 build, not only is pyro into elementalist no good, even if it was, pyro3 is no good, pyro is best at 2.

wizard-pyro2-linker1 is a good early damage build if you are planning on spending the last three circles as something more support oriented, or maybe sorcerer.

wizard3-elementalist3-warlock is the games generic 'aoe damage mage'. If you want single target damage you should be looking into archers instead

If you want to be loved chrono3 is good, its full support though, so this is an example where pyro2-linker into chrono3 would be alright, the pyro2-linker giving you the ability to solo with out wanting to kill yourself.

of course cryo3-chrono3 is the accepted meme full support optimal build.

Then you have screwy things like cryo kino that can kill bossess fast but is slow everywhere else. Thats probably not a good thing for a new player
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Still on the fence about this. Thinking about getting the $30 exclusive access but might downgrade that to $10 or not at fucking all.

Tell me why I should give this a chance, anons.
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>>136084945

It's a major MMO release for 10 dollars.

Sure the game might not be impressive but holy fuck it's been in development forever. 10 dollars for Project R1 and the myth around it.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111444bf.3a4a5565.1f253f7a.152535.15253342

How is this looking for a dragoon build. Ignore the skill choices for dragoon for i dont know shit about dragoon. Squire can be replaced with cataphract which would set it closer to my ICBT2 build. Any advice in general on it? Any advice for dragoon?
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>>136084945
good build
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>>136082557
But women are easier to connect to as characters
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>>136085154
>squire
>cata c1
amazing build
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What would be best way to level cleric2 priest3 chaplain PD?

cleric -> priest ->priest->priest->chaplain?

Isn't it pretty hard to level until you get chaplain?

If the build was cleric priest 3 chaplain krivis PD would it make sense to go krivis soon and get chaplain 1 rank later?
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>>136085637
good build
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>>136085637
i would take krivis over chaplain and c2 cleric over chaplain for increased buff counts/skill level/zaibas
krivis at r2
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>>136085834
yeah but zaibas is only 5 ranks, how will you do damage before getting to PD when you dont have chaplains buffed auto attacks?
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>>136085376
I have also thought of hoplite c2 with barb c2 for warcy and frenzy but i dont know if they made warcry and frenzy useless through nerfs. Pastebin gives nothing.
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ayy
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>>136086140
>No Lithuania
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How do I paladin?
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koreans have nicknamed this game "tree of shit" for a reason

abandon hope all ye who enter
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Does 'Pole of Agony' continuously do damage to enemies standing in it, or just the damage from the DoT after the first hit?
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Do I want dex when going Chaplain? If so, how much?
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>>136086258
No need to count something negligible.
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>>136086590
Yes, very good.
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>>136086583
It's basically a reskinned firepillar, and operates the same way. They get the dot and take damage as long as they're standing in it (which would exclude taking damage from more than 1 pole of agony). The dot is removed as soon as they leave the aoe.
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>oldfags upset about fresh blood coming into their sekrit club
>mfw
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who /oldfag/ here
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>>136086803
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>>136086867

I've been around forever and the rhidz meme is the most forced and unfunny shit to ever spawn in /tosg/. At least people come up with original stuff now.
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Musketeer or Fencer?

i cant chose
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>tfw finally decided what class i'm gonna play

feels good
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>>136086797
>The dot is removed as soon as they leave the aoe.
That's not how it works. It applies a debuff which continues to deal damage even after enemies leave Pole of Agony, as seen here.

https://youtu.be/uWIFk29MuOc?t=343
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>>136087381
good build
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Can any br help a nigga out?
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Is Wizard 3 worth it for the permanent +50% magic damage from quick cast?

Will I just kill myself before I even hit rank 4?
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>>136087543
If you're so retarded you can't play the game for a couple hours until rank 4, nobody is gonna miss you.
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http://strawpoll.me/7150461/r

>reddit results
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>>136087543
very good
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>>136087878

We are going to see lots of hahamen
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>>136087878
>plebs don't play archer

this is perfect
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>>136087301
Fuck off retard
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>>136087878
>People still don't know archers are the new OP tree

Launch gonna be great, there's gonna be a lot of salty swordsman after they pass r5 and realize hahaman isn't the best build.
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>>136088180
>>136088041

>literally not a single archer in PvP rankings
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>tfw TsundereCafe is kileld
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>>136087402
good build
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>>136080439
Not true and not even close to be a meme, stay wrong kiddo.

>>136080289
I know you copy&paste that shit in every thread, but that isn't true and you know it. Musk is pretty great, as Rune-memewall combo and warlock. If anything this game is a Tree of Clerics.
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There was a patch that somehow made the token UI worse. Also, additional instance/mission entrances is back to +1 from +2.
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>>136088253
>ToS
>PvP

every time
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>>136088495
The adults are talking, go play with your AIs somewhere else.
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>>136088603
l m a o
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>>136088421
>Also, additional instance/mission entrances is back to +1 from +2

Better for poorfags and the economy.
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>>136088495
>>136088690
>everytime xd
>le lmao xd
PvEfags confirmed underage, nothing surprising.
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>>136088421
>Also, additional instance/mission entrances is back to +1 from +2.
It's still 2+2 in indun.ies
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>>136088830
>pvp in tos will forever be irrelevant
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>>136088253
>muh PvP futureproof build in PvE-centered grinding game

great build
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>>136088421

This
>>136088967
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>>136088974
Like in RO? :^)
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>>136087421
Holy fuck, so she was a girl.
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>>136088495

Go play endgame ERP somewhere else.
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>>136089082
>delusional robaby

what a surprise
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>>136088974
What do you mean by irrelevant?
There is guild PK, there will be rewards in arena and there will be rewards in GvG.

What else does PvP need to be relevant?

Why are casuals so fucking retarded?
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>>136089406
>Will be

So right now it doesn't matter. Also there's a massive disconnect between what's going to be good in guild wars and what's going to be good in 5v5 equal geared arenas.
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>>136088967
You're right, the update didn't change any ies files, so at the moment it should still be 2. However, clientmessage.xml modified the Moreindunmission string from 2 to 1, the tooltip for token benefits was updated to 1, the 60day token says +1, and the DicIDTable entry for the token was changed from ETC_20160317_021187 to ETC_20160320_021192, with the main change in text being updating the string from 2 entry count to 1. It sounds like it's being changed.
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>>136087518
br?
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>>136089406
>there will be

sure, they will also announce woe anytime soon, can't wait for it

>playing pvp in one of the most casual genres of vidya to feel "hardcore"

just lmao
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>people could be playing right now
>in this moment

MUH COMMUNITY DIVIDE
COMMUNITY SO IMPORTANT IN TOS
WHERE WILL I GET MY SOLOQUEST GRINDING PARTIES
I WANT TO PLAY WITH ALL THE APES AND CHILDREN
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>>136089552
>So right now it doesn't matter.
See the post I replied to.

>>136089624
>they will also announce woe
No they won't.
Stop shitposting.
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>>136089684
you might want to google sarcasm my harcore gaymer friend
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>>136087421
they only get the DOT when they leave it. not if they keep standing inside.
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>>136089760
Nice sarcasm, were you implying that they won't add rewards by shitposting about something I didn't even say?
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So are you going to stick with your old name you used? Or choose a new one and potentially steal someone elses name?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/und08gh3zy/

Auto-attacking until level 120 is fine, right?
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>>136090026
you might have some mental disabilities
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>>136089760
>casuals using "hardcore" as an insult
What a time to be alive
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>>136089565
Yeah buy me the game
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>>136090096
Im going to use my old name and since i was not a cuteposter or a memer nobody will know me to try and steal it :^)

I cant wait to finally start to be relevant!
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>>136090175
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/und08gh3zy/
>5/5 Mastema
everytime
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How popular are the merchant classes in ToS? Pardoner, Squires, Alchemists, Fletchers(?). Is the situation more of an "everyone is a pocket merchant" or is it a "No one is a merchant class because it's Merchant3 or bust?"
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>>136085124
>major MMO release
Is it though? It doesn't seem to be that popular/hyped. I'm kind of worried it will be dead in a few months.
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>>136090392
>>136090175
yeah, that skill is crap
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>>136090467
Launch hype means nothing. As in literally nothing.
See: Archeage.
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>>136090392
I take it 5/5 Dark Theurge 3/5 Mastema is marginally better?
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>>136089863
The DOT damage is the exact same as the skill's damage. So that makes no difference. All it means is that enemies will take damage if they're inside Pole of Agony, and will continue to take the same damage if they leave due to the skill's lasting DOT. If they happen to leave and walk back into the skill, it'll refresh the DOT. If they stay inside the skill, they just take the skill's damage. Once the Pole disappears, they'll get the DOT as well.
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>>136090419
Fletcher isn't a merchant class. Alch is apparently a bad merchant class because potions are too easy to make and item awakening is worthless. Squires are ok and food buffs are pretty good if you have a group to take advantage of it. Pardoners are probably the least bad crafting class since their crafting abilities are based off previous ranks meaning not all Pardoners are selling the same stuff and Discern Evil and Magic Def are pretty good.
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>>136090601
Don't take Mastema at all, it's absolute trash since it only hits 1 time. Dark Surge gets 5 hits per level. Take 4/5 Pole 5/5 Invocation (for attribute) 5/5 Surge
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>>136090096
I will go with something anti-muslim just for the fun of it. Hate to admit it but I was kinda jealous when some people in the forums want lolipan banned because of his name. I want that notoriety.
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>>136090419
All of them are pretty shitty except for Pardoner.
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do i make a dank tank class or say fuck it and shoot shit with arrows?

are there are going to be a shortage of heal/tank classes in the game?
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>>136090835
>>136090869
So if I wanted to try a Pardoner, what would be the most OP skills to max out to sell to people?
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>>136091132
no shortages of heals, the tank classes are pretty bad tbqhseniphamilyifpie3.14chansesmn
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>>136091182
Priest 3 for spellshop is probably the most reliable since that stuff will always be needed. Barrier scrolls are also pretty valuable for Earth Tower, and people want Daino scrolls for general party play but right now people don't need maxed out ones since there aren't really enough buffs around. So basically Daino scrolls and Barrier scrolls are the main options for a scroll pardoner, but the full list of skills that can be made is here.

https://tos.neet.tv/skills?simony=1&f=1
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>>136090835
If I become a Templar can I sell people my reduce craft time?
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>>136091301
are you having a stroke, anon
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>>136091546
Im just getting a bit drunk a bit too fast
appreciate your concern though
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>>136090547
>autism: the post
Just because archeage went to shit doesn't mean hype doesn't matter what the fuck? It can be the best game ever but if no one knows about it and there's no hype it will die.
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english=lol
japanese=wwwwwwww
korean=??

In the 90s i played a korean mmo and they used 'huk'. Is that still a thing? ive never seen it in at least 15 years. did they evolve a better expression of amusement?
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>>136091636
>le autism
opinion discarded
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>>136091667
ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
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>>136091667
>korean=??
ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
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>>136091636
>implying mmos need hype or they die
Remember the last time EVE was hype?
Me neither.
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>tfw your build will be shit once rank 8-10 classes come out

feels bad man
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>>136084665
Something like this http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cefhha3yqz/ ?
Stat wise was thinking SPR/INT in a like 2:1 ratio with costitution as filler
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>>136091728
>>136091778
well aint that somthin
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>>136091883

Max rank is 8. Everything else will be hidden classes. Probably 1-2 per rank per class.
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>>136091532
Sort of. You can always demand payment in Talt to invite them to your guild temporarily as your let them make use of your bodily orifices crafting skill and then you kick them out.

30 monthly trades kinda ruins it, though.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111111g.1z2z3z4z5z6z7z8z.1z2z3z4z5z

is this a good templar build
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>>136091636
the tism meme
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>>136092017
try
ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
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>>136092181
amazing build
10/10
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Do auxillary effects on equipment like increased AoE attack ratio also increase when you do weapon enhancements or just the base magic attack?

Was looking at that staff that adds magic missile damage.
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>>136092181
Excellent.
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why do we use tosgbase instead of the superior one? at least that one has all the quests so you don't miss shit
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>>136092350
It only enhances the main stat.
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>>136091132
roll Stone Arrow.
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>>136092382

tosbase is outdated as fuck.
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>>136091684
>>136092182
The safe space is over at >>>/reddit/
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hello im joining 4chan for this game
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>>136091970
skills look reasonable. thats how you do pyrolinker, its got the important chrono stuff

for wizard just take 1 earthquake, or 4 i guess since its not like the points are useful anywhere else either, its only going to be a CC tool after the first 40 levels or so, and you probably wont find yourself using it much for even that. put 1 in leghargy for the +100% strike damage atribute. Its really strong if you have a monk in the party, and earthquake also counts for it so you will do double earthquake damage while leveling.

as far as stats i have no idea. spr is only for magic defense/resist, you dont need it for sp. As a non main dps getting a bunch of non-int is probably alright, but i dont reallyknow.

If i were making a chrono i would go full all out cryo chrono and do con and spr only, but thats no fun to level as.

I guess the question would be, when rank 8 comes, are you going to spec into a damage circle leaving crono a nice support part of an overall damage oriented build, or are you gonna try to go even more support stuff? If damage then id raise int more, ignore spr, and get some con, if you are only taking the pyro as a bare minimum to make soloing bearable and plan to continue support as later circles open up, then you can skimp on int
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>>136092382
What quests are missing from tosgbase?
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>>136092629
welcome aboard be sure to pick up your gold membership for extra benefits
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>>136092629
good build
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>>136092382
tosgbase has all quests.
tosbase does not.
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>>136092257
>four translates into nothing
>three translates into 'ha ha ha'
>two doesn't translate into 'ha ha'
>one translates into 'blah'
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>>136092737
>>136092782
thank. im excited to play barbarian the best class
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>>136090649
>Once the Pole disappears, they'll get the DOT as well.
only if they move out and in again.
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>>136092129
So assuming that I'll have access to a party forever and I want to make a guild and not doing anything but buff teammates and make dosh by selling my services, how's this build?

>Getting replies from one of the few non-shit posters.
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>>136093041
>>136092129

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333bbg.152555.153f4f6a.1a2a315465.354555
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>>136080337

>be me
>play kToS with my wife I met on 4chan

Stop being underage anytime
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>>136093172
get at least one point in arrest
it works on bosses
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does anyone know if Druid's transformation skill takes your stats into consideration? or does it just use the monster's stats?
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>Cryo3>sorcerer3

How flawless is this build?
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>>136092357
>my high res version still gets posted years after I made it


feels good man.
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>>136092629
are you reddit?
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>>136093478
Takes your stats into consideration (as in, it won't change them by the skill alone), but the attributes for it take the Monster's Size and Type into account.
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>>136093041
Battle Orders is pretty much shit. Warping is more useful, even with the gigantic cooldown.

You're missing Langort and Umbo Thrust, the two least shitty Peltasta skills after Swash Buckling.

If you want to make money max Repair instead of maintenance. No point in having both maintenances either way, armor maintenance is shit.

Consider Concentrate instead of Thrust.
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>>136092357
>eito
my heart
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>>136093510
Terrible, don't do it. Pick PyroLinkersomething instead
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>>136092689
For rank8 i don't know, these time control stuff looks asgood as explosions t bh
I got the stats ideas from a pdf on a GitHub linked before, really don't know either what is more important if i actually go support mage
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Is the wiz3 ele3 warlock memebuild any good in pvp
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>>136093510

Sounds like fun. Not optimal, but it should be viable at least.
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>>136094180
surprisingly, yes.
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I think we all agree that
earlygame > tosgbase > flashbase
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>>136094487
no
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>>136087402
tell me which build so I can make you regret it
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>>136094571
hello red.dit
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>>136094696
the greatsword build
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>>136093173
>be me
>read this

Upvoted your post, friend.
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>>136094790
>purposefully evading the word filter
An undisclosed action has been taken
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>>136094790
again no
tosgbase > flashbase > earlygame
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Julie is my STAFFu
She will make Founder EU server real
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>>136094936
CU.CK
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>>136094487

>wondered wtf is earlygame
>have their own skill/stat sim
>even slower than tosbase

This game is not even out yet but there are at least 4 sites with skill sims for it.
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>>136093659
I see, so a STR druid isn't that horrible then
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>>136095160
B-BUT DEAD ON ARRIVAL!!!
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>>136095208
Who told you it isn't? Carve + Chrotasmata is great.
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>>136095249
>6 months.
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>>136094851

You did it! :) Thanks, family.
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Are there still some remnants of /cute/ in this thread or were all the cuteposters exterminated?
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>>136095437
Cuteposters are either playing kTOS or died waiting for international.
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>>136095437
/cute/ is hibernating until the 29th
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>>136095551
>>136095605
>>136095437
How i can be /cute/?
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>>136094475
Would a lot of points into con be ideal for that?
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>>136095764
pump int
get 'enough' con.
what is enough con? Start with 50, see what happens from there.
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>>136095437
Barely any of the iCBT crowd remains. The reddit spies took over in their absence.
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>>136096395
50 con will get you assravaged by mission bosses as soon as level 120.
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What's the best ISIS-themed build?
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>>136096607
there are people who do just fine with no con
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can you run earth tower as many times as you want? or do you spend your daily dungeon thing by attempting to clear that?
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>>136096779
Cataphract C3 -> Shinobi
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Is the bonus damage from 'Ngadhundi: Enhance' only applied to missile attacks (like the normal debuff from ngadhundi) or to all damage?
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Why are there no archers in the PvP rankings?
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>>136096779
good build
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>>136097087
Because Wizards do everything they do but better.
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>>136097087
there are some in 2's
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>>136096838
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>>136097087
stoneskin
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>>136097087
Because stoneskin

Because they are glass cannons and die quickly

Because if you build to be tanky and not a glass cannon you do shit damage

Because archers lack CC, so they can't constantly nuke

Because PD and antidotes and cure scrolls make Wugushi useless

Because their damage is reliant on burst skills with high CDs (except for Fletcher)

Because cannoneer has to get close or have setup time to damage
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>>136096779
canoneer?
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>>136097864
Shinobi has a literal suicide bomb
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>>136097748
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>tfw 7 days to go and im already worn out from waiting
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>>136095437
>LoliPantsu gone
>Cattly gone
>Tuppin gone
>Protagonist probably died
>HoneyBingo gone
>Cannelle and Trap MIA
>not a single ohayou post since IMC went full jew
P-please

Help
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>>136097751
the real answer is: the elitist nolifing koreans didn't bother trying archer builds. the game is relatively dead and few reach 280 where you don't get destroyed by other 280s
game is dead in korea in every way, long live the western release.
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>>136098365
None of those people are /cute/
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>>136098365
>attentionwhores
>cute

kill yourself
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just bought the cheapest option , get ready gringos
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/vhipezxhkk/

From 1 to ABSOLUTE MADMAN, how is this build if I go 1:1 CON/SPR?
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>>136098515
>>136098561
Reddit spies need to die
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>>136098648
masterpiece

would steal
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>>136098710
shut up, mr. kaz miller.
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>>136098648
If you reduce enemy levels, do you get the penalties that activate when an enemy's level is too low?
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are all of the classes going to be available for the international release?
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>>136099043
I'm not certain because I never got a chance to test it in kToS, but my guess is that it's a debuff that affects stats, most importantly affecting level correction calculations.
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So I was thinking of trying this game out, but I keep hearing people mention these token things, what are they? Someone mentioned them being a soft-subscription or something like that, is this true? Am I going to get memed like runescape membership?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7bCAnhbh-M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTO_MNlbcA
Link + Ignition is pretty decent isn't it? That and magic missile on linked enemies.
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>>136099283
bad buiild
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>>136099283
It's not quite like RS membership since you can play the full game without it but you buy the token for a lot of in game benefits and the benefits are enough to where it's a soft-sub like you said.
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>>136099283
token
30% more kill exp
1 additional dungeon run per day
+3move speed
+1 buff slot
can trade with people
can use the auction house cheaper
can train two attributes simultaniously
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>>136099467
good build
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>>136099467
ARE YOU READY?
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>>136099540
Do both people need to be able to trade to trade items?

Also is there a way to trade between characters? Alchemy related item enchances are useless without both people paying aren't they?
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>>136099523
>>136099540
Ugh, I wish more MMOs did what rift did later on where it was F2P and there was no real advantages to paying money. Granted that game is dead as fuck now.
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>>136099818
Put two and two together buddy.
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>>136099768
Trade between characters on the same account I mean.
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>>136099768
Yes. You can only trade with someone else who's capable of trading.

There's a personal "warehouse" that holds only one item that you can use to trade between characters.
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>>136099905
To be fair it wasn't the lack of revenue that really finished the game off, it was more the developers being retarded and banning the top raiding guilds for exploiting bugs on endgame bosses. Then after that they made changes in the balance team and all of the content was really bad after that.
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>>136099969
>There's a personal "warehouse" that holds only one item
Wait what? Do you mean something different, or did they limit the amount of things you can put into the storehouse to 1?

>they made changes in the balance
"Renewals"... Will MMO makers ever learn?
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>>136100172
was this the same team that made wildstar?
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>>136100393
No
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>>136100317
Each character has their own specific storage. At the storage NPC, you have additional access to an account wide warehouse, but it only holds one item so in order to move things between characters, you have to do it one item at a time.
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>>136099907
You can use a shared storage (with one slot) to trade between your characters. Only take tradable items and it uses your token's monthly trade allowance.
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They are going to open an EU founder server right?
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So the guy people associate with this also worked RO and Granado Espada. I know about RO, but what about GE?

What were some of its faults? Is it dead nowadays? (as in actually shut down)
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>>136098302
fletcher was shit until a week or two ago, no one was playing it competitively
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>>136100761
>Granado Espada

P2W
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>>136100729
>>136094980
europoors blown the fuck out (literally).
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>>136100669
>>136100317
>>136099969
>>136099768
>>136099540
>>136099283
>>136100679
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>>136100669
>>136100679
Why does IMC hate people trading things so much? What are we supposed to do with all the hats and shit we get? Is this their idea to promote player shops or something?

>>136100892
Literally? Like you could buy weapons and stat ups and stuff?

My standards for P2W is early Mabinogi where you had to pay to get extra item storage, do storyline quests that let you transform into a superhuman, and also use overpowered special unique weapons, as well as to progress at all past a certain point. (Although it's more like freemium for some of those)
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>>136101517
>muh bots
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>>136101517
>Is this their idea to promote player shops or something?
they are gone
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fletcher is the best archer class btw
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>>136101517
I think the idea is to prevent inflation by having shitloads of silver sinks in the form of the attributes, market tax, etc. Also to make money selling the tokens.
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>>136101517

TOS has the same kind of system GE had and more. IMC just copied it over. Game is also gimmicky and not in a good way.
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>>136101639
>they are gone
Why? Or do you mean actually removed?
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ArcheAge is doing fine
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>tfw I could be playing this loli/shota sim if they stayed with their original release date
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>>136101943
player shops are removed.
buy-back at npc shops gone too
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>>136100970
We pay for servers unlike BRs
And what about SEAfags? NA based server could be worse for them than us
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>>136100729
why would you expect region specific servers on an international game?
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>>136102087
That's pretty funny.
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>>136102087
>this much bitching over a week delay for early access
The game was called open beta "soon" last week for fuck's sake.
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>>136102035
Why doesn't this game have a bard class yet? This seems like a good game for MML music making/selling.
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>>136102087
i never expected ben garrison to be corrupted this far
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>>136102287
There's assets for a Pied Piper, associated with the Archer. I'd love for them to offer it as a team buffer spec.
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>>136101517
>Why does IMC hate people trading things so much?

The reasons are obvious, third party RMT is rampant in any free game, and they don't have the staff to monitor every server full time and ban bots/gold sellers.

Is it the best solution? probably not. Does it work? hell yes, if you feel like they're hurting your money making probably everyone else is having those troubles too.

PSO2 went full retard trying to prevent illegal transactions and they succeeded, it's annoying for the playerbase but it's all for the greater good. In D3 you had professional Chineese/russian gold sellers botting 100 accounts, and exposing the exploits they knew so the mexicans and south americans stopped undercutting them with their cheap items. And that's in a game where you needed to pay $50 to have an account, imagine what happens when the game is free.
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>>136102287
>people just convert gimmicky animu video game music to mml

talentless hacks.

>take the time to make realistic music for archeage instruments
>leveling the fucking skill to not make ridiculous mistakes while playing it was too much of a hassle
>quit the game

Just as well, im sure pleb normies much preffered listening to their naruto twing twangs than some hand crafted rendition of a sea shanty anyway
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>>136102087
What is the meaning behind this comic?
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>>136102191
Ping and time zones
A lot of people not living in Burgestan kind mind these things
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>>136102087

super deformed-ish cartoonish character models =/= loli/shota
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>>136102789
The world may never know.
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>>136102805
>implying europe gets any worse ping to the east coast than i do living on the west coast

mmos do not require good latency, as long as you dont have packet loss (>ad 2016) you are fine.

why are euros so entitled latley? are they frustrated they cant say anything about their countries being overan, so they take it out on petty things like this?
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>>136102087
>loli/shota
uhmmmm
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>>136102191

A better question.

Why would you want to split up an already tiny community so much?
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>>136103090
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>>136102191
Timezones

there was a Event at KTOS, +%exp at 18.00 to 24.00 KR time.
that was a horrible time for US ppl and some could not or rarely make use of it.
a bad time for EU too, but i could often use like 4 hours of it

playing on a server +8 or -8 hours your time is really shit on the long run.
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>>136103090
So it's oppai loli?
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>>136103161
Well, it's not like you would meet lots of euros or aussies in NA primetime anyways desu
Timezones hurts more than ping
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>last week of waiting
>still undecided if I will actually play ToS or skip it
Please tell me there's more to do than just grind.
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>>136103671
Event times will be "international" too.
kToS is kToS. They don't care about non-koreans
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>>136103680
nope
no Lolis in TOS
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>>136102805
Don't have have some theaters to blow up, ahmed?
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>>136103769
You know that because your mom works at IMC, right?

Regional servers better for guild events and other stuff too
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>>136103671
>implying timezones matter to a bunch of NEETs

come now. This version launches at 11pm my time on the 28th.

Im going to be waking up at around 9pm on the 28th, eat a nice breakfast, and start grind
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What did she mean by this?
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>>136103885
ربما غدا
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>>136103757

You didn't answer my question.

Why would you want to take what will inevitably be a small player base, and split it up among too many servers? This is the sort of shit that actually, literally has killed games before. It's getting annoying seeing people demanding hundreds of servers for what is going to be maybe 10,000 players tops.
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>>136103979
>You know that because your mom works at IMC, right?
I know that because the i in iToS means """"international"""".
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>>136102568
>PSO2 went full retard trying to prevent illegal transactions and they succeeded

and how many are playing that game?
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>>136104045
guess what.
IMC cares more about these fags who work all day long and make a lot of money.

most players are not neets
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>>136103814
What are these then?
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>>136104407
Demons
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>>136104284
normies are the ones who jump ship

If i can afford to spend $90 on this game buying all the dlcs in homeless states of america european NEETs with your cushy socialism can certainly do it too
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>>136104225
does not mean they can not add regional servers
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>>136104472
Loli demons?
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>>136104225
>he fell for the "international" meme
i stands for "individual" which is how you'll be playing this game because party grinding got shat on hard.
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>>136104407
9 gorillian year old demons who only appear to be 7 years old.
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>>136104201
Regional server are just better for guilds and events if IMC manage them bad
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>>136104407
>>136104573
>>136104702
they dont even look like lolis.
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>>136104784
In what way does a flat chested girl half the height of a player not look loli?
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>>136104770

Not when there is too many of them. Which is where the game is heading right now.

Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, Indonesia and Brazil are all getting their own servers (and probably more I'm forgetting).

People want servers for...
US East, US West, Central US, South America, EU West, EU East, SEA and a fucking Oceanic server. Probably more I am missing.

There is such a thing as too many servers. If the game did open with this many servers, in a few months most of them are going to be empty and struggling to maintain 1000 players. It happens all the time and you frequently see MMOs combining servers due to low number of players.
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>>136104172
(Can't wake up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wq-ku3AwTA
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>>136102173
Joking, right?
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>>136104172

>Look at official forums
>It's nothing but people whining about the tiniest most superficial shit

She should just make a post telling everyone to quit being little bitches about absolutely fucking everything. The entire forums are acting like a bunch of spoilt kids.

The game hasn't even been released yet and I already hate this community.
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i want to fuck an Elma
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>>136104607
>because party grinding got shat on hard.
What did he mean by this?
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>>136105384
We need a 4chan server. Time to petition.
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>>136104172
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>>136105384
One server in NA, EU and SEA
These three would be fine for iTOS but i have to agree 10 servers at release would be bad
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>>136102710
>actually take time to transpose music into mabinogi MML
>have to take turns, listening to shitty fucking copy paste songs all the time
>people afk training in towns or populated areas
when will any MMO, let alone ToS, get music right
I'd love if I could actually use the MML shit I have saved in ToS. It's just sitting in a folder right now.
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>>136105809
I was pretty sure that was elmo
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>>136105695
no
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>>136104172
Bets on when will Julie go nuclear?
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>>136105384

They could do us west for everything. Seen some posts, SEA people gets 150 to 180 on west, SA the same, EU 100 to 130 and people in us west will most likely get the same as EU.
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>>136105809
>tfw ToS doesn't have any Elins
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>>136106458
Indeed. They could save TOS. IMC pls
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>>136106458
Literally every girl in the game is an elin without the tail, ears, and on top of that they have a rack.
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>>136106783
>Literally every girl in the game is an elin without being an Elin.
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>>136106783
This doesn't make sense.
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>>136106458
Too bad tera is shit.
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>>136106458
>elins have huge disgusting thigns and tiny little needle like lower legs

its disgusting, absolutely disgusting. The ideal loli leg tapers no more than 2/3rds thinner at the bottom as it starts out at the time.
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>>136106458
furry races when
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>>136106881
>>136106990
They all have Elin thighs, you idjits.
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>>136107158
True. We need to collectively hate on something when the BRs are gone/defeated.
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>>136107258
Not even close. but don't worry for just $50 you can buy them on the cash shop
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>>136104172
Julie is going for yandere route?
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>>136106783
>>136107258
>Literally every woman in the world is an elin without the tail, ears, and on top of that they have a rack.
nigga ur retarded
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>>136107054
Their lower legs are fine though?
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>>136106458
>>136107043
Elins are the only good things Tera has.
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>>136107390
Or you could hunt for desert chupacabra ears and call it a day.
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>>136107627
This
It's the only reason anyone even picked the game up in the first place.
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>>136107627
That alone is enough
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>>136107786
I picked it up for the promise of good combat!
and then it sucked. stayed for the elins.
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Tera: Fan Service The Game
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How should I build my dps fencer? Real tips pls, no good build memespew
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>>136107043
Nice butt
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>>136108092
b a d build
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>>136108092
With a nice build
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>>136107892
Don't worry, anon. TERA 2 will save us!
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>>136108092
>2016
>fencer
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>>136108092

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVpzlb8swI
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>>136107863
>>136107627
>>136107043
>>136106458
good build
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>>136108323
I would start playing again if the rumors are true. I want my next-gen Elins.
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>>136108081
at least it isnt nearly as p2w as shit of savior
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>>136105737
the problem with the game is that it attracted the hues and other mouthbreathers who demanded f2p casual shitfest with hats and stat resets which made the devs ignore the original audience who had actually suggestions to make the game not shit.
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>>136108323
actually I have great hopes for that game, they will have all the experience from making tera and knowing about its drawbacks, as well as what the industry is going towards these days, I expect a stellar game. playing it with /vg/ and /jp/ is going to be lots of fun
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>>136108575
You're right, it's worse when you realize that the cash shop is a giant Gatchapon scheme with Alkahests, which you need to get +10 on your gear because dungeons drop no where near enough to get it through chance.

Which is part of why I quit.
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>>136107863
I love Elins but the game is just too boring. It's better just to rub one out to them.
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>>136107627
Love that doujin.
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>>136108538
It's not really worth playing at all right now so it's okay.
I wish ToS had better character creation though, sure the sprites are pretty small there should at least be different face and eye options.
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>>136108575
>not as p2w
>elite status
>DOUBLE EXP
>more dungeon runs per reset
>DOUBLE EXP FROM DUNGEONS
>extra gold
>extra rep
>teleport to quest objectives instantly
>free potions/scrolls
>cash shop has loot box shit
>race changes which change racial skills
>exp boosts in store
>pay to restore crafting energy
>pay to increase chance of critical crafting
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF BAITPOSTER
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>>136108782
>>136109270
kek, everything is p2w for the poor
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Elins are only good when Japanese draw them. They look like shit in the actual game.

Koreans have some problem with making characters that have gigantic hands and feet and giving them legs that take up 4/5ths of their body height. On top of this, Elins tend to have gross bloated heads and weird faces.

Also Japanese tend to not draw them with FOUR EARS
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>>136109270
you forgot
>able to sell cash shop lingerie in AH to get mad dough for whatever's the best set nowadays
I remember these kids running in full +12 archetype having no clue how to play their class
>>
post your desired builds
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>>136109479
>gigantic feet
This is fine, especially if they're open shoes. What I have a problem with and it's reflected in ToS art predominantly are the downs syndrome faces that Koreans draw.
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>>136109437
So you admit it's more P2W than ToS.

Listen, I dropped money on ToS and TERA. Let me tell you why Alkahest is literal p2w trash.

Random fucking powder which has two random penalties applied (one when you get the package for it, another when you go to use it) which can't be found in sufficient quantities via dungeon runs with the specified dungeon limits. That is fucking horseshit. That only tells people how much money you gave Bluehole/EME when they look at your gear and see it's +12.

Meanwhile, ToS only has P2W features in theory with the extra dungeon run per token. Even then it's only one extra dungeon run. Everyone is on the exact same ground otherwise.
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>>136109873
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4134448f.153545.152545.112c314f516a7184.25354151617191.153545
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>>136110206
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4134448f.153545.152545.112c314f516a7184.25354151617191.153545

amazing build
good job
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Is this shit about wugu being useless in PvP true?
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>>136109939
ToS so far is pay2not grind (as much) but there's the matter of the hat scrolls. Does it apply a minimum level to the hat? If not, it gives a pretty hefty advantage to people earlier on.
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>>136101676
its double strafe all over again
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>>136110509
thanks anon I appreciate it very much see you ingame
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>>136110206

Why oracle?
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>>136110602
yes
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>tfw got mon-wed off from work because of some boss is muslim and there's some bullshit muslim holiday happening or something

sheeeeet is this nigga hyped for this autismo anime grinding simulator too?
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>>136109939
The EXP boosts and movement speed in ToS is the biggest thing that makes it P2W for me. The only thing to do in ToS is grind levels, and having a token gives a huge advantage in that regard. For Tera at least leveling doesn't really matter since it's fast with or without xp boosts, they also give lots of boosts while leveling. Alk is also really easy to farm and most people have more than they know what to do with unless they're going for VM.
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>>136110602
It is. There's a reason we call it wugushit
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>>136110787
woops, posted an older version
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#413444bf.153545.152545.112c314f516a7184.152535.153545
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>>136109897
>What I have a problem with and it's reflected in ToS art predominantly are the downs syndrome faces that Koreans draw.

Maggi's ugly faces or the "sprite" droopy eyes? Even for what it is, I don't hate it as much as when Koreans make the more realistic art look like Koreans, so that everyone looks like a Korean. White Koreans, Black Koreans, Asian Koreans, all with the same Asian eyes.

Also I think the sprite faces look fine, although they could use some more eye shapes.
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>>136110927
just enjoy the fucking ride bitch this isn't a race to see who can get to max level.

i could care less about the extra EXP from mob kills with this VIP token. just trying to take my time and enjoy the ride before i undoubtedly get burnt out on this game anyways.

why is everyone in such a rush to get to max level? there isn't shit to do there anyways especially in this game

enjoy the visuals, enjoy the music, make some friends and stop worrying about being the very best
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>>136111201
>this isn't a race to max level
maybe if you're not autistic
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>>136110927
>Alk is also really easy to farm and most people have more than they know what to do with unless they're going for VM.
Disingenuous.
SHITTY Alk is really easy to farm. But if you want the good stuff? Good fucking luck because you're limited by the number of runs you have per day. And if you plan is to just dump shit Alk into your weapon in hopes of it eventually working? Enjoy never moving it past +5.

Not to mention Paying in TERA also gives you the same boosts you mentioned for ToS. You get a faster mount, you get substantially more exp, and quest locations are free to teleport to. Advancing goes from easy to braindead easy. Not to mention the other benefits of having better gear and trinkets for all levels up until 60.

Disclaimer: I bought TERA's founders pack so I do know of those things.
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>>136111201
This nigga right here knows
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>>136111084
str?
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>>136111163
The sprites are alright. What I meant was that it goes beyond Maggi's art.
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>>136111516
str/spr/con, not sure on ratio yet but likely str>con>spr
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>>136111667
Like what then? I can't think of too many games that had art that bothered me besides the realistic asianfaced games and the way Tera characters looked. Mabi, RO, Aika, and Luna Online all had good art. I don't think anything else I've played had character portraits.
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>>136112010
>str with krivis

Why not just go Priest or Cleric2?
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>>136107626
yes, its their upper legs that are too thick
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>>136111201
>enjoy the music
>There are people who enjoy grinding in a gay disco
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>>136112010
This
>>136112126
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>>136112126
>Cleric 2 meme

I don't understand this meme, divine might is trash? What would you get, more heal?
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Considering the amount of plebs who think a premium service is the worst cancer possible, I wish there was a token only server that I could play on. I don't want to be surrounded by all this people that hate the game and yet they feel forced to express their opinion expecting the game to survive on hopes and dreams.

If you can't drop silver on a token, or spend $15-18 a month on a game you spend like 200 hours playing you're just a hypocrite who feels entitled to free entertainment. Go to MS or PW and see how well you do being a pleb, you'll come back crawling with your tail inside your butt begging for forgiveness.
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>>136112320
rank 10 safety zone and deprotected zone
>>
WHAT IS THE MOST LOLIPANTSU BUILD THAT MIGHT JUST WORK?
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>>136112320
Divine Might is a free monster gem for all skills.
More heal, +20 blocks on Safety Zone from its attribute alone, Fade.
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>>136112341
>spend $15-18 a month on a game you spend like 200 hours playing

I play offline games for more than that without having to sub monthly.
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>>136112464
build of kings is pretty lolopanther
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For Cleric 2, INT or SPR?
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>>136112126
How's this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411444bf.1a3a4753.112c314f516a7184.152535.153545
should I take some points off heal to max deprotected?
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>>136112464
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2123479
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How retarded would I be to go a standard Cleric2>Diev3 and Bokor/Plague? Meme doctor is obvious, but Effigy costs nearly nothing when under a high level Zemnya statue. Good spam damage when everything else is on CD?

>>136112320
People put Cleric 2 in builds because Heal was changed to give +1 tile per level while also healing only 5% per tile instead of 10%.
>>
CUTE GIRL OR CUTE BOY CHAR WHO SHOULD I CHOOSE?
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>>136112509
literally the only skills that really benifit from a gem require it so much in their build that you need to get the gem anyway because you dont always have a cleric near you

for everything else its just very minor damage boost
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>>136112341
You dumb shit, not many people have problems with subscription based games, the problem is that TOS is constantly billed as a f2p MMO. That's it.
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>>136111201
I would agree with you, but there really isn't anything else in ToS except for leveling. There isn't really much to explore since most zones don't have much in them to look at except for enemies. The crafting doesn't really have a use except for a few weapons and white hair. There aren't really any comfy towns to hang out in either, so there's rarely a good time to just sit down and chat with random people. I really really wish there was more, but there isn't. I GOTTA BE THE BEST THOUGH RANK 1 YKNOW
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>>136112831

Depends on your sexual preference.
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>>136112831

Girly Boy obviously
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>>136112831
girl, while boys can be cute in this game, their clothes cant.

we were so close to the dream of cute boys online ;_;
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>>136112464
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21347ahf.1321354551.152535.152535.11243545.15233542.253555.15253451
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>>136113047
What about a boyish girl?
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>>136112831
cute boy because the lolis will be flooding us anyways
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>>136112797
How retarded would I be to go a standard Cleric2>Diev3 and Bokor/Plague? Meme doctor is obvious, but Effigy costs nearly nothing when under a high level Zemnya statue. Good spam damage when everything else is on CD?

Tell me more about this because I was planning on going the meme build as well.
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>>136112831
Girl if you are high test
Boy if you are low test
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My girl friend is coming and sleeping over for 3 days from the 29th. Wat do?
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>>136113301
hide the body
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>>136112772
Consider going pure spr, dropping smite for turn undead instead. Or choosing a different class instead of Pally. You could keep Krivis that way. I'm no expert, but thats just a suggestion.

>>136112831
Definitely a cute boy.
>>
Cleric -> Priest -> Divekirby -> Paladin -> Monk?
Cleric -> Cleric -> Divekirby -> Paladin -> Monk?
Cleric -> Cleric -> Divekirby -> Divekirby -> Monk?

Is Carve really that great? Pierce seems nice...
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You aren't going to play a female character right? You're not some kind of faggot right?
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>>136113301
Go ask reddit.
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>>136091532
>>136092129

Is crafting in this game slow or something? How significant is crafting time reduction?
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>>136113497
faggot detected
only homos play male characters
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>no skirts for boys
its not fair!
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>>136113301
>having female friends

lol
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>>136112895
is it not free? is content locked for free players? classes? can you not wear a +40 weapon as a free player? do monster not drop loot for you as a free player?

Having a sub gives you perks, that's how they make money. Maybe you're too used to pirating movies and games so you don't pay for them, so the moment someone asks you for money for something that's decent you fart your pants and throw a tantrum.

Again all's been said and done, if people hate the token system so much why are they still here? what are they trying to acomplish? do they think things will change because they're being cranky about it in 4chan?
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>>136112831
Male. No cute, get Swordsman cash shop costume and wait for mirmiddon helmet and be badass.
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>>136113618
>what is highlander
>>
What's a good duo build for me and my wifes' son to play together?
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>>136113497
looking at a guys butt is gay thats why I play female characters
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Why so much theorycrafting for a game that hasn't even been released? I feel like buying the founder pack but I'm quite intimidated...
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>>136113497
Having honest to god doubts about going male after AHAHAHA. I really liked the idea of an evil necromancer lich-like guy but a sadistic loli is too much for me.
>>
If I was kidnapped in a dungeon, would you rescue me?

twist:I'm a boy character
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>>136112464
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7a767q6el8/

lots of multhit attacks, hidden interaction between sadhu and pally for ridiculous oob auto attack, instead of PD you cna just go druid 2 for sterea tofh and carnivory 10 which are stupid strong.
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>>136114023
I would be the kidnapper.
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>>136113618
>highlander
>peltasta
>shitload of wizard and clerics classes

>>136114023
Yes, then I'd proceed to drop you off on Cattly rape dungeon and lock the door behind me.
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>>136114023

I'll sell you to hauberk.
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>>136114040
Doesn't oob autoattacks scale off INT?
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>>136113932
>theorycrafting
>hasn't been released
what?
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>[6] days and I still don't know what the hell I do
I'm not referring on how to build / theory-craft a character, just... don't know which one I play. Same thing happen in every single game, fuck this indecision.
>both are cute
>both are stronk
>both have decent and fun overall gameplay
>both useful on pve and pvp
>both can solo and party

>>136098635
Pic.
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>>136113636
pretty sure the same people bitching about it here are the entitled shitlords on the forums

just ignore 'em
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>>136114023

Depends, what class are you
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>>136114552
The helpless one
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>>136114023
How vulnerable and supple are you?
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>>136112972
I really wish it weren't so story quest based so I'd at least have fun with alts. What's with games having elemental systems and race systems or stuff like that and not really using them? I mean they're used but you have to go through every map anyway instead of just going to some maps based on build.
>>
>quickcast
This makes wizard c3 a requirement doesn't it?
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>>136113497
Gotta be a girl for those female Jap voices.
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>>136114932
not if you aremaking a support or support/dps

for pure dps yeah pretty much
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>>136114248
How can I be as secure and protected as you?
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>>136090864
Really? When'd that happen?
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>>136114248
nice build and icbt screenshot
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>>136115592

Sometime ICBT2, can't seem to find the forum posts anymore but it was linked here.

Calling loli.
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>>136114321
Play both.
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>>136115861
I never saw that. Though some people did lash out at me in-game for the name.
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>>136114932
yes
dont go pyrolinker or cryokino, those are now weak

t. k-god
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>>136115874
>[two-five] level ~260 rank 7 characters
Not enough time anon.
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Have not been keeping up with the game and the class skill changes and i was wondering if Hoplite are still good ? Played Full Dex Hoplite in CB and all my auto attacks where critical hits and i would take hardly any damage and stab bosses down standing still.
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>>136116054

Is this good?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5p8upwidsn/
I don't want to roll swordman again.
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>>136114750
Vulnerable? Well I have no talt.
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>>136116054
My rule is always do the opposite of whatever the korean meta says is good in games like this.
Because Koreans are actually fucking terrible at videogames this usually ends well.
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>>136115993
Hurry up and make guild events
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>>136116054
pls kgod advise

archer2-ranger3-reiter2
or
archer-ranger3-rogue2-cannoneer

what makes me more cool?
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>>136116349
you are as dumb as you are wrong

>>136116317
good build
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>>136116571
good build
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>>136116349
You should do the same with this thread, more than half of the people in here don't play the game and have outdated iCBT "knowledge"
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Mind your meme arrows outside 4chan Meddy, lest you want to be ridiculed next
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>>136116579
>korean mad at someone realizing they are actually shit
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>>136116506
I had problems yesterday with my computer. Had to do a fresh reinstall.

The scary thing is that, whatever issue I had before doesn't seem to have gone away. Fucking kill me now.
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>>136117106

What issue?
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>>136116776
I used my own knowledge in icbt, without paying attention to tosg's memeing, and it worked well, and it also turned out that's how koreans play in ktos nowadays.
This game's mechanics are simple as hell, seeing what's solid and futureproof is trivial.
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>>136116579
It's true that it's good or are you joking around like almost every single slut here?
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>>136116571
The first build is better futureproofed for cool once higher ranks appear.
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>>136117282
That's because there's almost no bad builds in this game. Some are just more support or more solo than others.
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>>136117282
>ICBT knowledge

Good meme
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/fyp9i2qpg0/

The age old question; are thaumaturge buffs worth making your character look retarded.
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>>136117281
AMD drivers stopping at random times. Games of course, but also some other weird cases. Can't run games with the GPU because of this.

I thought it was the HDD causing driver issues, but if it's still happening with a brand new HDD then it must be the actual GPU.
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will you be able to have more than one hidden class once hidden classes are implemented more than one per class?
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I JUST WANT TO PLAY, PLS
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> still leaning on a single-target focused, GVG musketeer with a level into scout
> schwarze reiter is STILL really cool

Do they do ANY damage at all? I haven't seen anybody talking about them. It was like we found out muskets can't be used mounted and we never discussed the class again.
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>>136113486
Very good, but For Leather armor targets, of course https://my.mixtape.moe/nrzzmz.mp4
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>>136080053
>WE R ROOK SAME
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>>136117705
source?
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>>136117427
So having c1 in seven different classes doesn't result in an unplayable shit build?
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>>136116071
You don't have anything else to do until circles 8 and 9 come along and make all those builds useless.
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>>136108338
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>>136116195
Bringing attention to this post because I'm curious about Hoplite too.
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>>136117528
>He fell for the AMD meme
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>>136117528
>going amd
sigh. their gpus issues have issues
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>>136086140
>owners players
>players
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>>136117528
What happens if it is idle?
All games or just intensive ones?
what weird cases, crashes?
tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the driver? Maybe use an older driver
overheating?

>>136117905
>almost no bad builds in this game

Learn to read faggot.
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>>136117953
Is peltasta really THAT necessary?
Is it for Swashbuckling?
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>>136117705
Why's her head hidden? Is it gross?
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Everyone, give me a hand.

I know Plague Doctors are the flavor of the month, but I was wanting a more support build.

I'm not sure how good Oracles are, how does this look?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41137778.192135455565.14233345.2f3a5a6575.2541557193

With +Int
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>>136118021
>>136118179
I am never buying AMD again, I know that much.

The problem is that, if my GPU is fugged, there's no solution other than to get a new laptop. And I have no money for that.

>>136118375
Nothing happens when idle. Seems all games have problems. I tested with some indie stuff too. It happened when I tried to install network drivers or run daemon tools as well. No overheating, and I got it cleaned when the HDD was replaced anyway. I've reinstalled the drivers over and over, and made maybe 20 windows installs fresh.
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>>136117920
In-game? Sure.
Still would take some time to achieve ~260, 1~2mo/ea maybe? I have more things to do than play TOS 18 hours/day and because of that I need to focus and pick 1~2 characters at the best. Anyway even with 5 characters I would still need to level one of them first and that by itself would already be a problem for me.
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Is the pistol access you get from Corsair C3 even worth it besides the cool factor?
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>>136118562
It's a boy
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>>136118638

What's your video card?
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> Schwarzenigger completely terrible and worthless class
> Still looks absolutely awesome
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>>136118501
swash + C block prob
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>>136118375
>amd gpu's
good luck having backwards compatibility with software, youre fine if youre always playing the latest games... other older games,, ehhh not so much
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>>136118886
I use a stock dell inspiron 7520 with a 7730m gpu.
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>>136118921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t70go7DZcjg
They can be somewhat decent in the right circumstances.
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>>136117523
Good build.
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>>136118702
Those are some pretty wide hips for a boy.
I like it.
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I miss Centurion. Weren't they supposed to bring that class back once 10 man content was a thing?
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>>136118641
>I have more things to do than play TOS 18 hours/day
Like what? Post on 4chan all day? If you have time to hang out in this thread, you can use that time to grind instead.
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can someone update me on the current state of the armor type/skill meta?

people act like magic is such a danger, is everyone wearing cloth now?
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>>136119045

Can you check the device manager and see if there's anything weird there?
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>>136118638
I have a R9 290x, I haven't had any issues.
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>>136118629
Good build.
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>>136118629
>I'm not sure how good Oracles are
>>>/wsg/1001375
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>>136119284

Pls stop forcing this meme.
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>>136119234

Having an AMD is like winning a lottery. Either you have a good one, a barely working one or a dud.
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>>136119149
>muh self projection
Kindly fuck yourself.
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>>136119186
Shows the onboard intel and the amd gpus. No problems with either. I am using the correct drivers, I played with this for weeks before it started giving me trouble. It's not the drivers.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ra3k3fk035/

Is this a good build for a dedicated Fletcher?

Is c3 Fletcher even something to shoot for or should I grab cannoneer?
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>>136119343
It's far beyond a forced meme at this point.
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>>136119317
I see it, I don't know if it even exists or if it has uses outside of making all the little lolis into boys.
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>>136119432
>Projecting
Yeah I'm typing those replies to myself out myself
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>>136119492
>lolis
Is this a new meme?
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>>136119343
Good going
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>>136119149
>If you have time to hang out in this thread, you can use that time to grind instead.
Game isn't out yet, you dingus.
Also, your scenario doesn't imply that he can spend 18 hours a day playing the game, anon.
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>>136119594
No, older than 4chan its what we call pre-pedophilia
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So what are the archer tree skills that actually do damage later on? Obviously musketeer and cannoneer do, and running shot and to a lesser degree multishot. What else is actually useful for damage?
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prepedopantsu...
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>>136119452
Good build.
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>>136119715
You know what I meant, smartass
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>>136119921
>confirmed pedo
No, I don't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22_fuk5iVsg
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Can you guys rate my build?
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>>136119435

I think it is interfering with the intel hd graphics.

Try this. http://community.kaseya.com/xsp/f/30/t/19328.aspx
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>>136120084
Lewd build.
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eye colors when? no reason to be blonde when you don't have green eyes
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>>136120084
HAW HAW

NICE GYNO
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>>136119754
>prepedo
>prepredator
>predator
>panther
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>>136117528
How do the 970 plebs keep getting away with their memes
https://youtu.be/BdwUsalwBJ8
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>>136119284
Is it? Can you tell me specifically if I made the right decision in C7, because it's just the plague doctor build I had before with Plague swapped with Oracle.
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>>136120445
>green
>not blue
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>>136120641

>blue
>not brunette

sir?
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>>136120580
Good build!
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>>136120476
>prepedo
>prepredator
>prepre
>precure
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>>136120084
Good ass
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>>136120578
>because optimization
also because nvidia is the bbribed everybody
>>
elmayo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d-NjmAoXOI
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>>136120835
That's a little of all of those.
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>>136119118

> ranger

ehhhh
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>>136120641
Blue eyes is for pink hair
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Am I going to be able to put thousands of hours into this game?
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>>136121220
Almost all major kToS archer builds these days are taking ranger because steady aim is broken as fuck.
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>>136121089
>buddhist
Oh for fucks sake.
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>>136121421

Steady Aim got nerfed into the ground m80
>>
>/tosg/ thread
pedo tier
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>>136121421

> Steady Aim Skill has been revamped and now does the following:
> Steady Aim cooldown changed from 65s to 25s
> Increases skill damage by 3% per skill level.
> Decreases SP cost of skills by 10% + 1% per skill level.
> Lasts for 10s + 1s per skill level.

> outdated info
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>>136121287
Yeah, for the first 6 months until they belly up and abandon ship like korea tos
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>>136121804
Is that honeybingo?
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>>136121441
I doubt is THE buddhist.
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>>136121824
then play wolfknights ^_^
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>>136121220
even post steady aim nerf a flat 20% damage increase with 1/3rd up time is still something that works great if you synchronize it with skill cooldowns. And ranger gives you aoe flexibility.

Rangers great now for direct damage builds.
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>>136121510
Well yes, that's why I specify kToS. It does need a bit of a nerf, in all honesty. I'd say Quickcast should too but then wiz would have nothing.
>>
someone post updated list of skills that don't work mounted please
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So can I ask a question about skills.

Or at least about a class.

Why does no one take Oracle? It seems like a good support at Rank 7. Am I missing something?
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>>136122129
Try reading the OP pastebin first.
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>>136122173
because plaguedoctor is mandatory
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>>136117953
tfw cata instantly makes you unoptimized shit
why the fuck do they make all the fun classes garbo tier

>zombiemancer
crap
>mounted knight
only okish in pvp, needs too much invested with little trade off
>psychich mage
gimmicky situational shit
>spirit cleric
nerfed to hell
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>>136122173
They want the dark and edgy black outfit
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>>136122262
>not being a horse archer so you can seduce finnish boipucci
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>>136122261
I understand it's really good, but isn't oracle a better support class at R7 or is it entirely down to how much damage you can do at that point?
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>>136121824
Why did the kTOS fail and why won't the same happen to the iTOS?
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>>136122262
CuteNotLewd is going to have a hard time with these fat asses and short skirt combos running around.
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>>136122567
>better support class

plague doctor makes everyone immune to almost everything

there is no better support in the entire game
>>
so cutenotlewd is the wholesome pure kissing guild
lewdnotcute is the designated erp guild
cuteandlewd are the bullies who try and force people to kiss things they dont want to kiss?
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>>136122671
Oh.

Oh, I see.

Damn, it's a shame because I like Oracle's outfit.
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>>136122952
kissing is lewd
cutenotlewd will have a cute, secret handshake
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>>136122638
>Why did the kTOS fail

Balancing
bugs
restricted trading
expensive cash shop items
almost every week there's some server issues
Koreans have a deep hatred on IMC

The only reason it will survive longer internationally is because the population is larger and we don't have a lot of alternatives to choose from.
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>>136122952

CuteAndLewd here!

We will bully all!
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>>136123186
but chinese taste for vidya are simply bad
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>>136123186
That's fucking depressing.

Is there ANY hope? will we eventually see a pserver?
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>>136122952
wheres the lewdlolis at?
>>
What's a good point distribution for Warlock skills? I'm not sure which skills are more useful.
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>>136122638
>Why did the kTOS fail

It didn't. The amount of tokens circulating in the market are proof of it.
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>>136123060
follow your heart. I would recommend something custom designed around being unusual though, because if you arej ust another generic build but with out plague doctor, you will be discriminated against

Like 3 krivis or something, i dont really know how clerics work now.
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>>136102285
I have to go back to college by the time this gets out, so, yeah, I am pretty peeved towards the delay and all those held responsible.

I can bide my time though.
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>>136123462
Could I try making experimental builds or should I wait until the "Good Build" meme has died down?
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>>136122464
Here you go, big boy.
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>>136123186
But we have all of those problems except maybe the last one.
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>>136123060
You can still take Oracle, Counter Spell is great for pvp and forecast can be useful for some bullshit AoE attacks in PvE

Also, since the CC rank system in this game is still broken and nerfed, Prophecy is still kinda useful
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>>136123347
>Is there ANY hope?

Well they changed EA because of complaints. If we complain hard enough, we can make TOS great again.

>will we eventually see a pserver

possibly next year based on how popular TOS is.

>>136123741

IKR.
>>
what's the best class for going fast?
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>>136123785
Oh, I see. But plague is still the go-to choice. I gotta think about this, but I level so slowly that I have lots of time to think about it. Maybe sometehing will change at launch.

>>136123462
I see, when you say designed around being 'unusual', I need clarification.

I was thinking 3 Diev because I wanted to try Diev, but would Priest be a good alternative to C2?
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>>136123186
More like because the game is just about doing the same daily dungeon runs every single day and nothing else.
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>>136122023

> 20% damage with 1/3 uptime

What the fuck am I reading?

At ranger 3 with 15 invested it's 45% damage on skills with perfect uptime.

http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam
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>>136124227
the problem with diev is oracles have a skill that will destroy your own statues
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>>136124227
Plague Doctor can savage any messy Cleric build by Bloodletting/Incinerate alone, that's why it's popular at R7.
>>
I pity the bloggys guild that posts names in /tosg/, ripe for bullying.
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>>136124402
It never worked like it said in the patchnotes. Was 3% per level increase with a fixed 15 sec duration. SP reduction thing got instantly removed and never re-added.
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>>136124402
do you not know of the nerfs to the skill?

It now does +20%, with a 25 second cooldown, and 10 second duration.

I was wrong about the uptime, i thought the cooldown was 30, so its better than 1/3rd
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>>136124591
Oh Counterspell destroys statues?! I had no idea.

That kind of makes them useless in my eyes, what lower rank classes work best with them?

>>136124636
I see. So any messy cleric build is fine just as long as I get Plague a R7?
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>>136124402
The iToS game files have the skill active time reduced from 15s to 10s and damage increase reduced form +3% per level to 5% + 1% per level. They also nerfed skyliner by giving it a cooldown (15s 3 overheat), and increased cooldowns a little on linker and reduced the duration of hangmans knot considerably.

It's strange that they're doing skill changes on iToS ahead of launch, but it may be that they're just too terrified to do the nerfs they want to on kToS without having people quit.
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>>136124876
they abandoned ktos they'll probably leave it to die and just do balance on itos
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>>136122262
>tfw cata instantly makes you unoptimized shit
I know that feel 'cause trot feels great but hop2corsair2 is ok I guess

>psychich mage
I really wish for psychokino C3 greatness, at least better than cryo 3. She's pretty cute
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Is Reversi useful outside PVP?
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>>136124678
>>136124749

> our pastebins aren't even reliable

Amazing.

Is there enough else in Ranger that makes taking 3 ranks into that class useful at all? I don't imagine the damage skills will remain good choices for very long and it sounds like Steady Aim isn't worth it any more.

I'm trying to put together a build that works for Schwarzer Reiter but it's looking more and more bleak.

Quarrel Shooter's Running Shot appears to work on them but I was under the impression Running Shot is only broken in conjunction with Kneeling Shot which doesn't.

On the other hand, the sheer stupidity of those skills being able to be used at the same time makes me think it's eventually going to be nerfed to make them mutually exclusive.
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>>136124809
>So any messy cleric build is fine
No, never
>>
What makes warlock good? pole of agony is a really small AoE on an insanely long cd, invocation seems decent enough, the rest seems pretty meh.
>>
What's a good Necro build? Something on supportive side of things is welcome, but not painful and boring please.
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>>136125216
dark theurge does lots of dmg
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>>136125147
>Amazing.
Not really, the OP has always been outdated and useless, which is why i have no idea why these memeing fuckheads keep telling people to 'do research'

Im making a reiter and im doing archer2-ranger3-reiter2

Its still the best option i think

Dont bother with QS unless you live right on the east coast and have a sub 50ms ping to the servers

unless you are doing that qs2 into rogue thing thats probably a stupid idea.
>>
>using memebuilds in a casual waifu simulator
pathetic
>>
Is the rogue ability to steal tiles just a PvP gimmick or is it actually useful in PvE? Seems novel and fun.
>>
>>136125539
you can apparently combine it iwth sapper and steal your own broom trap, and have additional broom traps all over the place

it seems like a hassle to set up though
>>
Do we have a vg guild already prepared ?
>>
>>136125439

I don't see any reason to combine Rogue with Reiter at all. Not even Lachy is usable mounted. QS has stone shot which is usable mounted and is nice for PVP as well as being relatively futureproof, which is the main reason I took any interest in it for this project. The problem is trying to find any actual damage on this class that doesn't involve you having to be stuck to a wall to do (can't do that shit in pvp/gvg.)

Might be time to give up the ghost. That cool sprite isn't even that cool when you're not on foot, anyway.

Do we know what the most effective GVG ganking lineups are? Scout+Musketeer is obvious, anything else any good?
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>>136125636
>we
This reddit spy really thinks he is part of "we".
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>>136121089
the fuck is the build for this
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>>136125787
>>136125439
Reiter is shit

https://youtu.be/cTigKHBtPIo
https://youtu.be/KaHuEJFxpe8

There is only one good skill: retreat shot
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>>136126259

> The problem is trying to find any actual damage on this class that doesn't involve you having to be stuck to a wall to do

Did you think you were saying anything they hadn't already said?
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>>136121089
holy shit what is this.
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>>136126259
its mounted
it has a good skill
it has one skill thats bad now but will be good if leveled to 15
it has one more circle left for the devs to give it something good

I let you members discourage me from playing cata in icbt2 even though i was enjoying it just fine. Not again!
Im making a reiter.
>>
>>136125205
Well, what's the limit then? How crazy can I make my build?
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>>136125808
so thats a no?
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>>136124876
Problem is that the way their combat system is setup, it's very hard to change problematic skills without forcing a reroll. And forcing a reroll when it takes so much time to hit lvl cap is a big no no.

Let's look at it this way: how do you nerf Spear Throw, assuming it's overpowered and breaks game balance? Reduce base damage? Only hurts players who are leveling. Increased mana cost? Same shit. Add a cooldown? Completely changes how the class plays and butchers it completely for pretty much every build that would consider using the class. And if you butcher the class (whether warranted or not), players will feel shafted and angry. Not the best of strategy.

Overall though, I agree with the changes:
- Skyliner is available at rank 3 and does an incredible amount of damage, might as well be free and is almost always usable at full power if you fill bleed downtime with strong cooldowns.
- Steady Aim is provides a scaling buff where you can unload all your cooldowns for a massive damage increase and getting Ranger2/3 "costs" almost no DPS because ranger is available as a low rank class.
- The whole Linker thing is crazy strong. Turns single target skills into AoE skills and doubles damage from AoE skills. Short cooldown, too. And to top it all off, it's an incredible CC class that also provides another source of scaling DPS increase through -aoe defense ratio. And it's a mid level class, meaning you can pick up a few ranks and still get the OP late classes
>>
How 'futureproof' is Corsair?

I remember they were like top tier for Swordsmen in iCBT2 but that was before Swordsmen were terrible.
>>
>>136126086
Cleric>krivis>bokor3>druid2

not sure about stats tho, I'm guessing 5int:1con or something like that
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>>136127568
nice build
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>>136121089
c1 krivis c3 bokor c1 druid. hes using mackandal to take no damage for 20 seconds, which then applies accumulated damage in one instance at end of duration, which he then stands in safety zone to negate entirely. he is using druid skill to mindcontrol them with the red laser beam. he is using effigy to attack him which does triple damage on third attack and lets you attack outside melee range.
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>>136127930
>b-but bokor is bad
WELCOME TO MINIGAME, CASUALS
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>>136128041
zombie congo line is good in pve aswell, dont listen to anyone just watch youtube videos for proof.
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>>136125808
>not being an upper-echelon Tree of Lowtax player
I bet you don't even have a slot reserved or anything.
>>
>>136127560
Is Spear Throw worth maxing over the other Hop skills like Stabbing or Pierce?
>>
What's a good build for corsair2>shinobi?
I've been thinking about Pelt>Barb2/Pelt>Hop2/HL>Barb2 but I'm not sure what to pick.
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>>136128314
Yes. Pierce isn't very good.
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>>136127560
And this is why the game needs class reset in some form.
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>>136128441
I could have sworn they changed the CD on Pierce down to 20sec before. Guess it's back up at 30 huh.
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>>136127930
what would be good for r7?
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>>136128573
it does, you can reroll
>>
This game is a mess.
>>
do you think we will get new ranks one at a time? or get 8-10 in one go?
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>>136128620
for pvp centered stuff plague doctor probably, it is pretty valuable for cc reduction
>>
Anyone have the big image of what every class' outfit looks like, even R7?
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>>136128041
Now try that in GvG where each side has 3-5 Plague Doctors.
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>>136127930
telepath is druid 2 m8
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>>136128761
what game?
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>>136129041
nope
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>>136128979
I'll figure out something.
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>>136128408
Pelt > Hop2 > Corsair 2 > Naruto
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>>136128823
have they locked down how expansion content will work yet?
>>
So I can't reroll class picks? Would one of you kind anons post a paladin build so I can get a gist of what I should be aiming for
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>>136129041
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#45
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>>136127568
They weren't even that great in iCBT2. The damage Jolly Roger gives isn't very much at all and the buff doesn't last very long so by the time you can even get a decent combo going all the mobs are either dead or there are no low health mobs left to continue it. Dust Devil does like no damage, and hook/pull is a meme skill. There aren't enough chests to make Unlock Chest worth it.
The only reason to take Corsair is Double Weapon Attack and Hexen Dropper, but DWA isn't that amazing (I guess with enough support like priest and pyro/chrono would make it good, but that could be said for a lot of things) and while Hexen Dropper does a lot of damage, I don't think it's worth. The class was changed a lot in the past few months, a lot of the videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJMjV8kK7PE doesn't really work anymore.

You're a pirate though which is cool.
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>>136129224
What happens after circle 9 or 10 anyway? Circle 11? New base classes? (game could use a martial arts base class)

I'm a little worried they didn't think ahead about how this game will grow with new content.
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>>136129471
>(game could use a martial arts base class
Those are all the lasses though
>>
Okay, here's my thought
I was thinking of a build that used Chaplain and Sadhu in conjunction.

Is there a problem with my plan?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112668c.192135455565.152545.14213a4a55.254155617192.15213544
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>>136129434
>>136129434
Koreans like Jolly Roger for the extra money/drops
DWA is shit
Hexen is really powerful
Dust Devil is good CC
1 point in the hook skills is very good for the minigame
You can use pistols which are some of the best offhand so far
The dress is beautiful
Overall it's meh
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>>136129434
Hi.
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>>136129956
10/10 would party with
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>>136128761
You're just poor

Any criticism of this game comes down to you being poor
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>>136129956
good build
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>>136129956
amazing build
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>>136129974
I don't know much about C3 and pistols so I didn't comment on it, but I dunno about the Jolly Roger thing. The amount of things that dropped when pillaging was pretty negligible, I don't know if it's been changed since iCBT2 to be better, but from what I played it didn't seem like very much dropped. I mean it's not useless, but it's not really a reason for someone to take the class.
I wish Corsair was good ;_;
>>136130112
H-hi anon.
>>
How does ground targeting work? As in, do you aim it with your mouse or what?
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>>136129816
Sorry, I meant a bare handed/knuckles/gloves/tonfa/claw using boxer, wushu, MMA, kickboxing, karate, sumo, jujutsu, wrestling type set of classes.
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>>136129974
>You can use pistols which are some of the best offhand so far
Are you shitting me
>>
>>136129974
>Koreans like Jolly Roger for the extra money/drops
>gooks like things because that ease the grind instead of being fun
>>
>>136130256
Really? I know it's not plague doctor, but is it strong enough to not be spit on when I'm playing?

>>136130307
>>136130370
:^)
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>>136130545
never going to happen
expect a majickal punching ninja soon though.
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>>136130545
you mean monk?

you literally get a move that lets you ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
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>>136129434
What makes something qualify as a meme skill?
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>>136129956
you should work for IMC making builds, give this man a medal
>>
I like how tosbase gives you videos of the skills, cna we get that in the neet version?
>>
>>136131020
Why are people doing this now? It was fine to theorycraft last thread.
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>>136130545
Luchador
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>>136130848
No I don't mean monk, I mean plain old hand to hand combat, without beams and fireballs and shit. And without having to be a cleric. And also with a full set of other classes.
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>>136131161
yeah sure

anything else you would like?
>>
>>136131352
Luchador isn't a base class. Although I wish it was.
>>
>>136131428
Can I have some ice cream?
>>
>>136127568
Don't go all dex
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>>136131428
Maybe that chart of all the outfits that's posted here occasionally, too.
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>>136130545
>>
Someone have a link to that world boss inven that someone mentioned yesterday? I'm curious.
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>>136132009
Penis erection activated
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>>136132009
Yo what the fuck. How do I get that outfit.
>>
>>136132280
Wait 3 years for IMC to release the class.
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>>136120380
Thanks for the link. I'll study this in-depth.
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>>136132280
go to Mexico.
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>>136132009
I want ToS to become popular en japan just to see doujins of fem luchador
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>>136131428
Fix High Guard attributes.
Also it would be nice if you implemented a slider on skill pages. Something like
>tick a checkbox
>slider is now enabled
>slide it from 1 to 20 to see differences
Or at least being able to type in skill level.
>>
Could you combo monk c2's one inch punch's attribute's 5 second silence (plus the skill's original dot effect) with someone else using pardoner's duration extender and plague doctor's DoT proliferation to silence a group of things for like 25 seconds while also spreading multiple lethal dots?
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>>136083589
tfw I don't just think this, I KNOW this and I paid $50 anyway. Fuck me.
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>>136132009
see>>136131358
>>136131531
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>>136129956

Chaplain requires c3 priest and I don't think assburgers works with OoB attacks since it doesn't work with anything but autoattacks
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>>136131428
peltasta attribute for umbo/rim fix
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>>136131335
Uou can't even take chaplain without priest 3 for starters

There's nothing to discuss, you need to lurk more before you start posting builds and expecting people to correct all your mistakes and explain every single detail about how the game is structured.

I'm sorry but it's not even worth it, and every day there's like twice the people posting absurd builds like yours who can't even read 2 or 3 threads back to get an idea of what they're getting into.
>>
IS THIS BUILD GOOD YOU GUYS
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212347ab.152535.152535.152535.152535.112535.152535.152535
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>>136131161
tosase stole it from inven
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>>136133256
reddit spy
>>
So Chaplain requires C3 priest, 125, and a quest to get it, but what about Rune Caster and Naruto?
answer quick pls so i can repost on reddit
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>>136133281
Nexon actually.
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>>136133256
WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE??
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1123467a.152535.152535.152535.152535..152535.152535
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>>136132928
Okay. Thank you for the explanation, that's all it would have taken.

Why does the simulator allow me to pick it if Priest 3 is the requirement? Was this a recent change?

>There's nothing to discuss, you need to lurk more before you start posting builds and expecting people to correct all your mistakes and explain every single detail about how the game is structured.
I've been playing since iCBT2, this is my first Cleric I'm making.
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>>136084204
The best system for MMO is the plex system.
>>
>>136133256
damn son, this may be the build of gods, congrats
>>
>>136132848
>Chaplain requires c3 priest and I don't think assburgers works with OoB attacks since it doesn't work with anything but autoattacks

Okay, thank you. I did not know that. That seems like a massive oversight that it only works with autoattacks.
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>>136132825
cute dude, boy
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>>136132928
so your answer to his build being dumb was to shitpost instead.

I'm glad TOSG is finally returning to its reddit roots.
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> damage cleric isn't real
> monk is a lie
> reiter is shit
> forced plague doctor
> wizard is pve or pvp choose one
> or be a cyrochrono fuccboi
> all swordsmen worthless garbage
> you are a pirate no longer good
> pvp will be all musketeers and plague doctors
> too pussy to end it all
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>>136134165
good build
>>
>>136132928
>There's nothing to discuss, you need to lurk more before you start posting builds and expecting people to correct all your mistakes and explain every single detail about how the game is structured.

This is shit for retards, though. You could have said "That build doesn't work, lurk more", but instead there was a tide of shitposts.

What is the end goal here, to make tosg as unreadable as possible?
>>
Preload is up now right? How big is the entirety of ToS?
>>
>>136133663

It's still pretty good. Probably the best auto attacking class dps wise. Spirit/Int basically become 1:2 damage modifiers when you max out the aspersion attribute not to mention it makes all neutral damage holy with last rite
>>
>>136134165
if you literally mean cleric you're retarded, but if you mean the cleric class you're wrong
>>
>>136133487
>Why does the simulator allow me to pick it if Priest 3 is the requirement? Was this a recent change?

Because the builders are made by fans with a lot of free time, it's not an official tool released by the companny paid with money, they have a lot of work and are under staffed, so there's a bunch of shit that's not updated and they probably don't care enough to change how it was programmed to just to force pre requisites before you can take a hidden class.

>>136133971
I told him his glaring mistake, and I explained why people are mocking him and every random build posted in the past few days. If you want to be the fairy good mother of builds be my guest.

>>136133971
>>136134382
and what's your point quoting my posts and trying to claim I'm shitposting instead of actually helping the clueless bastard? you're the typical contrarians from /v/ who never ever contribute to a thred, you're just quoting people trying to undermine their posts while helping nobody or having any intent of making anything better.
>>
>>136134626
>you're just quoting people trying to undermine their posts while helping nobody or having any intent of making anything better.
>says the guy still on his "Good Build!" high.
>>
>>136134626
t. Lolipantsu
>>
>>136134543
>Probably the best auto attacking class dps wise
that's not QS3
>>
New thread when.
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>>136134626
>Because the builders are made by fans with a lot of free time, it's not an official tool released by the companny paid with money, they have a lot of work and are under staffed, so there's a bunch of shit that's not updated and they probably don't care enough to change how it was programmed to just to force pre requisites before you can take a hidden class.

Okay, in the future where can I FIND up to date information if all the sites are out of date and no one ever updates the pastebins? Do I just have to know?
>>
>>136134560

> there's an ancient secret cleric build passed down from the koreans that can deal damage but we shall not speak of it

hots fresh memes here
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>>136135482
tos.inven.co.kr
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>>136120380
Double niggers, this just might be what's fucking up my system. Connecting to the internet is what fucks my shit up.

I need a way to completely block Windows 10 from installing updates.
>>
>>136135465
No more bread until the game launches.
>>
is cryo + psycho still a thing?
>>
>>136135748
NO PLEASE I NEED MY TOSG SHITPOSTING FIX
>>
>>136135486
Welcome to neo-tosg.

>I know something but I'm not telllllling youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu have these fresh shitposts instead.

Also I think he means Plague. Krivis 2 Plague
>>
>>136135841
More than ever thanks to Rune Caster.
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>>136135686
>I need a way to completely block Windows 10 from installing updates.

Good luck on that. it's hard as hell
>>
>>136134165
cryochrono better than memedoctor tho
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/notice-on-suggestions-and-complaints/153804
>>
>>136135946
but some anon said the so called build of kings is outdated, i don't know if to go cyro2 or cyro-psycho
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>>136135684
Great, I can't read any of that. I guess 'being informed and lurking more' means 'reading korean and browsing korean communities instead of the shitholes here' now.

Thank you anyway.
>>
>>136136082
I've seen more cryo-psycho with Warlock at 7 to help compensate for their uselessness during Ice Wall's cooldown.
>>
>>136136073
Julie a cute.
>>
>>136136125
You said 'in the future' , the current information in OP is up to date
>>
>>136136032
Not him, but this is true from a purely offensive standpoint, yes. But why isn't Plague better from a party standpoint?
>>
>>136136073

>we hear you but we don't care right now
>>
>>136136073
That's pretty cute
>>
>>136136073
it means they're tired of all you redditors shitting up the forum
>>
>>136135486
yeah, because you totally asked for a build and weren't just shitposting
>>
>>136136303
Except the builders, skill planners, or a few of the pastebins it seems.
>>
loving this reddit tears t b h
>>
>>136136943
Which ones? Point some out.
>>
>>136136549
Please point out which pastebins in the OP are outdated.
>>
>>136135016

Well quarrel can suck my dick
>>
>>136136481

> w-well I WOULD have told you, but since you were s-shitposting, now you don't get to know...!

just how deep does the shitpost hole go
>>
>>136137356
depends, how long you going to keep posting
>>
Friend said linkers got nerfed into the ground. Is the damage share absolute trash now?
>>
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>>136136073
>We did things that made everyone angry and incite forum riots. This is no acceptable.
>For you, I mean.
>Forum rioting is unacceptable.
>>
>>136135976
Just drivers. Found the option already.
>>
>>136137574

Will try and start on its own. That's the hard part.
>>
>>136137280
Tree of Savior (TOS) Info and Resources

> OP Template: http://pastebin.com/gm08t5g5
> FAQ (WIP) :
> Class Changes since iCBT2: http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam
-EN Game Resources:
>Database Websites;
- /tosg/base: http://tos.neet.tv
- TOS Fan Base: www.tosbase.com
>Stats and Skills;
- Skill Simulator: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner

So yes, the very first lines on the very first pastebin are outdated. I guess it's time to brush up on my Korean.

Also

>[Chaplain]
>N/A
>>
>>136137559
Shut the fuck up plebbit poorfag. The only people spamming the forums are poorfag kids raging about every little thing and they're the reason we're not playing RIGHT NOW.
>>
>>136137814
dumb
>>
>>136138018
You asked which part was outdated. Sorry that the outdated parts are what we are offering for our OP post.

No, seriously, where did you expect for me to get this info besides the korean sites and communities at this point?
>>
>>136137942
>I-if I put a lot off buzzwords and memes in my post, I'll surely fit in
Stop trying this hard faggot
>>
>>136137942
>you're a poorfag for disagreeing with how IMC handles trading and the incredibly shitty market system to "stop bots"
Okay?
>>
>>136135686
Isn't disabling updates only for Pro and Enterprise?
>>
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The great debate.
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>>136137356
the shitposting has ascended to cringeposting
>>
new thread when
>>
>>136138786
There's an option just for drivers. And there's a downloadable windows tools that prevents all updates(not included in Win10).

I hope this solves the problem.
>>
>>136112512
>not understanding how f2p works
>>
>>136137280
>Please point out which pastebins in the OP are outdated.
>>136137814
>How about the first pastebin on the third line of the thread?
>>136138018
>Dumb.

Is this irony posting or some kind of advanced shitposting?
>>
>>136139473
3 weeks.
>>
>>136137814

>http://pastebin.com/gm08t5g5
What is outdated about this?

>FAQ (WIP) :
Work is progress is work I'm progress

>http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam
This is just compilation of all the class changes since kCBT3.

>http://tos.neet.tv
Automatically updated using the latest kTOS files. How the fuck is it outdated?

>http://www.tosbase.com
This we all know to be pretty outdated (but usable) for some time now. Which is probably why someone bothered to make /tosg/base. I'd never recommend to use tosbase.

>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
See tos.neet.tv

>[Chaplain]
>N/A
Because there has been 0 (Zero) changes to the class since its addition. Do you understand what "Class Changes" mean?
>>
>>136139872
What is outdated about the pastebin that lists planners which aren't updated and give no information about additional classes since their addition? Do you really think I could have known anything about game mechanics referencing this that wasn't woefully out of date, when the resources listed themselves are out of date?

Want to call me dumb again?
>>
>>136138319
Cry more reddit
>>
>>136139872
*Work in progress is work in progress

http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam
Also about this. It gets updated like once a week, depending on what gets changed in the latest kTOS update.
http://pastebin.com/u/sunhwapark
>>
Please let this thread die so we never have to think about it again. This is the worst thread in a long while.
>>
>>136140589
Okay, great. Can we start adding that to the pastebin from here on out because that seems like a useful resource that I didn't know about.
>>
>>136140390
I'm not even the person you originally argued with, I just called you dumb because you're fucking dumb as rock.
>>
>>136140390
You keep treating us like we're your slaves or something, if you can't do your own research just copy one of the dozen of cookie cutter builds. If you want to make some amazing build then lurk more, we're not getting payed to take care of your stupidity or laziness to read previous threads.
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>>136140797
It's already in the pastebin, stupid.
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