/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

First for DS3

D A R K S O U L S 3

Nope. has the wrong Fight club ruleset.

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http://i.imgur.com/1RjNbF4.png
OFFICIAL RULESET
http://i.imgur.com/1RjNbF4.png
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dark souls 3

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>old pthumeru glyph
>memeta fc picture
this OP fucking sucks shit

>>136027980
Fuck off retard, we don't even fight is that dungeon anymore. That shit is completely outdated.

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>>136028359
AS IT PLEASES THE JURY, SANS BATMAN, THIS IS THE PICTURE

>>136028359
80-120 is still the rule.

We still need the new Pthumeru in the OP.

Who BL 117 here. Loving my 50 STR 49 BLT Bloodletter

Do you guys think a -60 durability would matter on my bloodletter?

>>136028521
>>136028570
>80-120 is still the rule.
Lol, that hasn't been the rule for months. 117 is just being pushed by /dsg/ shit posters. Example: >>136028638

>>136028570
What's the new Ptumeru glyph?

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You know, I'm kinda hoping that when DaS3 starts all the shitposters will go back to /dsg/ and leave us in peace.

But I know it's only going to get worse when the game release.

Why can't we just enjoy our comfy general in peace?

>>136028727
When I joined, 3 months ago, 80-120 was the rule

>>136028727
80-120 has been the accepted spread since the beginning
some retard changing the picture a few threads ago is not going to change that

>>136028989
Post your PSN name.

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>>136028727
80 to 120's can still fight each other, so it's still a perfectly good range to stand by

>>136029141
>>136028845
n6rc9jh8

I'm sick of this level autism bullshit.

>>136029090
It has been 98 since the 80 meta died out. When people over leveled by a few levels (101, 102) no one cared because it was still relatively balanced. This 117 shit is just bullshit. Plus, it means 150s are just as relevant because they can hunt the 117s.

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules: http://i.imgur.com/YBsS36V.png)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Artbook Scans, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

OFFICIAL OP

>>136029341
Hol' up, why aren't we using the mudpit anymore?

>>136029556
SRRC shitters can get in.

>>136029556
it was always destined to be this way since benjie made it open like a frickboy

>>136029347
No, the meta was 120, but some faggot got tired of dealing with 150s and find the magical 98, but 120 is the meta, 98 is optional.

>>136030116
/dsg/ shitter detected

>>136029447
>>136029141
Nigger what are you doing

>tfw you're terrified of losing your 19 million blood echoes despite the fact you have nothing to use them on

>>136030615
Deleting the old one that was inaccurate

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>>136030616
this

I've been stuck on Martyr Logarius for three days now. No other boss came anywhere close to giving me this much trouble. This is reaching O&S levels of retries and I'm a little embarassed at this point, because I usually don't see him listed on the 'holy fuck x caused me so much trouble' list.

>>136031115
You can do it, anon!

>>136031115
He's hard as tits anon don't feel bad.

Hardest boss in the main game in my opinion, Gehrman was piss easy shit but Logarius just stomps on first timers

>>136031115
no hes really fucking hard. i love that boss fight but i also hate it

>>136031115
hes a genuinely tough boss but so good that youll feel amazing once you beat him on your own

So should I put tempering or nourishing gems on the MLGS?

>>136031435
Nourishing

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>>136031115
>>136031153
>>136031306
>>136031325
>>136031426
Is Logarious the Fume Knight of Bloodborne?

>>136031586
no because the fume knight is a pushover. logarius is the allant of bloodborne if anything

>>136030616
Echo loss don't phase me unless I'm below 200 vials

>>136031682
>logarius is the allant of bloodborne
>both wield Soulbrandt
POTTERY

>>136031586
I don't know but the Pontiff with Dark Moon Blade is the Logarius of DS3

>>136031586
Nah Fume Knight was a push over, Logarius was proper difficult.

People who bitched about Fume Knight were shitters who tried shielding him.

>>136031586
Tier 3 noob filter

>>136031153
>>136031306
>>136031325
>>136031426
Thanks for the support guys. I keep panicking when he goes into overdrive at phase 3 of the fight and screwing up them. I had him at one more hit until death but I got stupid and tried to trade blows with him. I have determined that that does not work.

The Nose thinks he may have fought a boss recently, but he doesn't remember. Maybe he was napping. Anyway, he stands not far from a Grieving great one, and requests Jolly Co-Operation in the destruction of another non-human. Pass is bbbg, and he rings outside the boss fog from the Altar of Despair

>>136030616
>Have 30 million echoes on a Bloodtinge character from y592byza
>Can use them to do any testing that I want on arcane/strength/skill scaling with a bit of savescumming
>Particularly can look into visceral scaling since there's so little info on it
>Lose them

That's the only time I've ever cared about losing huge amounts of souls.

Losing 10k echoes in Cathedral Ward is way fucking worse than losing 10m when you have 99 lanterns because there's nothing else for you to spend echoes on.

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>It's an FRC ball and chain giant episode

>>136032338
Coming m8

>>136031115
Logarius has couple mechanics that make him totally unfair if you don't know how to counter them, and then has a strong moveset on top of that. He's a pretty brutal boss IMO, and really well-designed I think.

>>136031115
When he does his sword ball thing drop everything and smack the sword in the ground. Aside from that it's a matter of always move to the left to avoid the instant skull and parry the fuck out of him

The Nose gives his thanks to Milo, and Angelo Castleon. The latter of whom passed away tragically in the battle

Should I kill Master Willem?

>>136033467
Put the old bastard out of his misery

>>136033467
He drops a good rune

>>136033467
There's no consequences to doing so and you get the middle tier Eye rune if you kill him

Just soloed Ludwig on a BL43

>feelsgoodman

Getting sick of my BT character. Should I reroll STR, SK or ARC?

>>136033721
>43

Visceral damage improves at 45, and your minimum invasion level only goes up by 2.

>>136033827
Strength leaning quality, something like a 50/25 split. Heavy Abyssals mean you can use any weapon in the game that isn't Arcane or 'Tinge specific and have them be viable.

In fact, you might be able to use those anyway. I haven't considered a pure strength build with a HMS and some Abyssals. Could be fun.

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>>136033980
This
Strength leaning quality master race

>>136033467
I always do. I feel kind of bad but I want that damn Eye.

>>136034435
but why though?

i've killed him before but now i never do

>>136034394
Is 98 the meta now? I've been using 100-120 characters

>>136034640
No, it's just a convenient level since it allows for a very wide range of coop and invasions, ignore any shitpost

does anyone want to help me in layer 2 lower loran? i cannot get past these bell ringing women

i've been trying to summon randos but only one came so far and he was afk and just got killed by the beasts outside the lantern.......

>>136034640
It's the preferred level for a lot of people around here.
Not for them to be mind you, but for you to be: their preferred level to be is 117, so they can still invade you.

>>136035013
god now my new rando fell in the hole and died really fast......... they're killing me here

omfg why does holy moonlight sword sometimes go OVER spiders. fuck

pls help

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>tfw you had a 360 last gen and never played demon's souls
>tfw demon's souls will probably never get a port
Is it really the magnum opus of Miyazaki? The way people always use it as the golden standard when comparing new fromsoft games makes it seem like it was the best game in the series.

>>136036919
it was the most internally consistent world that seemed to have the most thought put into little details and item placements as well as very solid gameplay and level design.
Bosses aren't as good in general but there are some that are the greatest in the series still.
I'm not sure whether it's objectively his magnum opus but I am sure that you're objectively in the wrong thread to discuss it.

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>Hair matches coat's lining

I've found it. My aesthetic.

post 'em

>>136036919
It's definitely the most primitive and from a gameplay standpoint bloodborne is way more similar to Demons souls than dark souls. The lore, level design, combat, music, bosses are all excellent in demons souls, it's the most consistent of the games in terms of content. A lot of people might disagree with me on this but I think the bosses are the best because they're kind of gimmicky but not annoying, see: Armor Spider. The combat in particular is the best part though, since you've played bloodborne you've practically already played demons souls combat. It's fast, visceral, and gives you extreme control over your character since your rolls and attacks come out so quickly. The game really rewards not locking on.

I'm not even nostalgia goggling it either, I played DaS first like 12 times then demons souls and demons is still my favorite after all these games. You're missing out on a really good souls game, also Allant is the best final boss in the series.

>>136037176
>Bun hairstyle
>glasses
>Gascoignes coat
>Choir gloves
You better not be wearing the black church skirt you son of a bitch.

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>>136037176

>>136037479
Demon's Souls had the most variety in bosses. Bosses that were just "1v1 with some big dude with scary attacks" were the exception rather than the rule. I liked that about the game. DeS felt like it was more about the roleplaying elements than about the combat, relative to other games.

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>>136037176

>>136037617
Crowfeather pants, and that's a ponytail.

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>>136038000
>Them trips
I-I'm sorry anon, I'm too green for my own good.

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>>136037176
what i'm currently rocking for lower loran.

>>136037819
what gloves r those

ok some good co opers finally came to me. who wants to do darkbeast paarl as soon as i get to him?

>>136038281
Paw gauntlets, you get them for killing the Furfag Possessed Soul in Ailing Loran

>>136038483
ok actually its loran darkbeast, can anyone help me with him?

and by loran darkbeast, i mean loran camerabeast.

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How does one into an arcane twink?

>>136039802
Waste of skin
Bump vit to 18 and arc to 40 to get a BL43 twink

How many Adversaries can there be at once? I just got summoned and this guy had two of the bastards, the weird part is neither of them were vilebloods or anything like that.

>>136040339
1 per Sinister Chime Maiden.

>>136040339
Two is possible if you're in a sinister chalice.

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I AM THE QUEEN NOW

>>136040531
Why haven't bbg created a Sinister FC chalice? The chances of getting 2 invaders and having to brawl it out seems fun.

>>136041259
Careful, Dris may try to fight you for that title.

>>136040531
>>136040529
It was in the fishing hamlet, one of them could've been hostile to the host and that means they were hostile to me too but it was really weird. I killed one of the invaders and out of nowhere one came up with a blue elixir and tried to cannon me while I was standing around bowing to the host.

Was kind of annoying to be honest, I killed both of them by myself only to get shat on by a shark. Those sharks are terrifying.

how much is speccing poorly punished in this game for pve?
I didnt realize that if you slot an arcane gem into a weapon it loses is str/skl scaling (thought i could do a str/arc build by slotting an arcane gem into my kirkhammer) and now i feel like ive kinda wasted some levels.

>>136041554
Not much. The game will be a bit harder, but there aren't any straight-up stat checks in the game. People beat stuff at BL 4 using only their fists with no armor and only using their feet etc., so messing up your build is not a big deal.

can anyone help me out with this loran darkbeast or give me any advice?

>>136042154
Once you knock it down the first, time, pick a leg and focus on it. Damaging the leg will knock it down again. Hopefully you can knock it back down again before it charges its lightning back up. Then go to another leg. Repeat until its had all four legs fucked up. By this point you'll have taken out most of its health.

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>>136037176
Mostly use set in far left.

Based after my gf

Anyone wanna tackle Upper Cathedral Ward with me?

It's spooky up here.

Pass: guns

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>>136037176
PURGE
U
R
G
E

>>136042032
ah, cool. are there any good weapons that benefit from a str/arc build?

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>>136037176
A H H
2 days until JP release, lets hope HMLS will be as majestic as in BB
>inb4 they lock it behind DLC

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>>136043684
>this picture

I feel like bloodborne is the only game where I can truly appreciate non-dialogue co-op.

>>136027558
>batman thinks he can change FC rules if he takes over the creation of the OP
Pityful, really.

>>136031586
>fume knight
>ehi dude im going to swing try to ROLL
I mean he's a nice fight but that hard

>>136043982
More like 1 day and 8 hours

>>136037805
>DeS felt like it was more about the roleplaying elements than about the combat
This, Des was about the soul experience.
And they did it fucking right.

>>136042893
You... you uh... got sliders?

Because that's pretty much the exact face I've been trying to replicate for the past few hours.

>>136036919
i played DeS after both das1 and 2, it sure as hell feels primitive after you're used to the newer games which are more mechanically refined in almost every aspect but i thought the world, art direction and overall combat was more enjoyable in DeS.
Bosses arent very hard but theyre very unique, almost every fight feels special and memorable.

>>136041272
Sinister Chalice leaves it open to having random people showing up and triggering the fightclubbers, I guess

Personally I think it would be fun to have occasional weird fights with ganks and running and hiding and terrain usage to break up the 1v1 no heals fox only final destination fightclub meta

If you make a Sinister dungeon with a good empty arena, I'd say just post the glyph and hang out there and see if it catches on.

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>>136045530
Maybe. If so, I'll figure out how to compile them tomorrow. About to sleep. Check back in a thread at like 6 PM.

I'll post with this picture of blood

>>136034394
I don't think there's a single weapon that benefits more from 40/25 than 50/15

so level 98 for ds3?

>>136046524
HMS does because you don't use an abyssal in it.

>>136046903
NO
O

Im about to play Bloodborne for the first time, anything i should know?

>>136047430
dodging doesnt make you invincible if you spam it like a retard

>>136047460
I learnt this from playing Das1 and 2, but okay

>>136047509
oh my bad dude, well to backstab you have to get behind them, cahrge up your r2 fully, stagger them then get the backstab. youll know by the sound when you stagger them properly

>>136047430
Pick saw cleaver and blunderbuss as your starter weapons. They're the safest picks by far.

>>136047430
Try beating bosses without a coop partner and only look for help when yo uare really struggling. Start the DLC around level 60 for maximum challenge. Level VIT cause it increases both healing and your ma hp. Don't level END too much.

PS4 Dark Souls 3 leak stream

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcbKa4AAQw&feature=live-chat-promo

>those frame drops

Would you guys like a to coop and just gank invaders?

>>136048074
>watching leaks at this point
Nah.

bloodstarved beast is kicking my ass
are there any good strats other than gitting gud and using fire paper

>>136049650
throw blood molotovs
fire paper his asshole
not much else to it nig

>>136049650
Strafe right

>>136049650
Keep to his left. Literally keep circle-strafing left.

If you need more poison resistance, then try Gascoigne's garb or Yharnam Hunter set.

>>136049708
>>136049728
sheit nigga

>milkweed lmao puke builds up slow poison
literally never knew

>>136049818
His right is your left.

>>136049818
Strafe to YOUR right. It'll literally miss 90% of its attacks unless you fuck up

>have to do chalice for anti-clockwise 3 and to have access to FCs

Kill me

What's a good early skill weapon? Currently using saw-spear shit. Planning on rak later on. How quick can I get mercy blade without killing eileen?

>>136050307
After blood moon, in that case. Kill crowsteel and she'll give you her badge.

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>tfw i can't even get to the second phase of ludwig

why is this boss giving me so much trouble

>>136049930
>>136050006
>>136049708
>>136049728
thank you friends, may the good blood guide you or whatever the bloodborne meme phrase is

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>>136050373
>get to moonlight sword phase
>immediately one-shotted

>>136048074
The amount of comments like "he plays like a American would who did bloodborne with coop" fuckin xenophobic japs

>>136050684
>the only reason japs let westerns play souls games is because of the big money
>they hate us so much it couldve been a JP exclusive series

Do Fetid and Rotted offerings make bosses drop rarer Gems? Or just Cursed offerings? Or only all three together?

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>>136050684
>>136050981
They just hate burgercucks. Same as everyone not burgercuck.

>>136050373
You just have to learn his moveset, after that, pray to god you don't get fucked by RNG and he manage to hit you with a delayed jump into a short jump because if you don't react to the 2nd jump and think it's something else you will die.

Just play safe on his sides, which part is giving you trouble, when he jumps? charges?

>>136051461
Got the best results all three together, but cursed did wonders on its own

>>136051924
I'm really hoping I can farm FC Rom or FC Amy for Rarity 16-17 Nourishings, but there's literally no information on anything other than farming 20's anywhere.

>>136052023
Don't farm FRC Rom. The highest she drops is 19.5% when you can farm up to 19.3% from pthumeru gargoyles.

>>136052023
>FC Rom or FC Amy
FR*. Trying to avoid Cursed.

>>136052118
I need a decent Triangle.

>>136052207
Isz Amygdala drops nourishing triangles.

Can I get 16-17s without Cursed? I can barely beat her normal.

>>136052367
Cursed increases the strength of the gem regardless of what tier it is. A cursed 15 is stronger than a normal 15, for instance.

Chalice gem farming is not worth it if you are not planning to get them cursed, because the increase in strength is actually quite big. A bolt abyssal is something like 14-15% damage whereas a cursed bolt abyssal is 24.8%

>>136052527
I meant the Rite.

Does Amygdala show up as a boss anywhere besides Defiled Pthumeru?

>>136053226
In root chalices yes.

>Spoiling myself on DS3

What AM I DOING?

But fuck all this info is getting me FUCKIN HARD

guys, don't get dark souls 3 on ps4 unless you're a real poorfag

the framerate is atrocious in several areas and there's severe PS3 blighttown with two phantoms summoned slowdown in the swamp forest

>>136031586
>Everything terrible hunters blames
never gets old

>>136053560
Trading community for superficial shit. Shame on you

>>136053560
Yeah, no

I like pvp and pvp is only going to be alive in PS4.

I dont wan't any kiddies or shitters in my game

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>>136029556
>>136029341
We can still get a Pthumeru with a large arena, but I think it must be a lhyll.

Can I get some help with a Pthumerian Elder?

>>136053665
> is only going to be alive in PS4.
The Souls audience is significantly larger on PC dude.

>>136053616
This isn't superficial, the game literally moves in slow motion because the frame rate gets so bad. It's below 20fps a lot of the time in this area and the area looks cool as fuck to invade in.

Why would you purposefully ruin your own enjoyment?

>>136054242
Didn't that happen at launch in certain areas in Bloodborne too?

>>136054232
Sure. Pass?

>>136054242
The whole "PC community is shit" is a meme but the series is way more popular on PS 2bh

>>136054232
Of course. Let me boot.

>>136054325
Not this bad.

>>136054345
It really isn't, Dark Souls 1 peaked higher and the average always seemed higher to me.

The official Dark Souls 2 launch statistics proved PC was the top platform for that game and it only got more popular as time passed.

>>136054345
>>136054380
Thanks fuck. He's doing the weirdest shit; I'm trying to hit him with HMLS beams because it's the only way I can do mildly significant damage to him. Well, he's wading into them, hitting me, but not taking any damage. Like he's clipping through the wave or something. It's fucking infuriating.

Pass is 216.

>>136054431
Are you sure? The series started on PS and there are a lot of japs that are loyal to PS, I know the games are very popular on PC but they're popular on PS as well.

>>136054431
That a lot of people bought it does NOT mean they played it.
Look at the achievements.
and you can't even say the pvp community is great since most are hackers.
AND MOST PEOPLE THAT DID BEAT THE GAME USE TRAINERS
Yeah, great community

>>136054510
>Thanks fuck
Thank fuck*.

Or Thanks. Fuck,*

Not sure which my brain was leaning toward more.

>>136054345
Only if you count japanese players, who hate the shit out of you and will be playing region locked.

I think you fellas just don't want to let your PS4 collect dust.

>tfw no money to buy japan version of DaS3

>>136054510
SRRCing

>>136054510
SRRCing as well.

>>136054516
Yes, I'm sure.

>>136054534
>baseless achievement argument
>"most are hackers"
>"AND MOST PEOPLE THAT DID BEAT THE GAME USE TRAINERS"
Quit with the memes you autist, go to /v/ for that. I wasn't even talking about how many people bought the game.

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Defend this

>>136054612
>>136054630
Many thanks anons.

>>136055046
No problem.

I am a bit confused though, the boss subtitle said Pthumerian Elder but we clearly fought Descendant.

>>136054885
Can't wait until you get the game on PC and can't even online due to the amount of hackers in the game.
Or are you going to wait for the trainer as well?

>>136054893
It's Das2 hitboxes all over again.

>>136054893
Holy fuck, no doubt everyone will prefer PC over this shit.

>>136055078
That's right, didn't notice.

>>136055078
I think Elders are more powerful, but can use either weaponset; the one in the story Chalice just happens to use the pick.

That's my guess anyway.

>>136054893
Wait is already out?
Anyway that's fucking normal in Bloodborne

>>136055280
Only the Japanese realize

Also what? Shit like that never happended to me in bloodborne

>>136055326
Release*

>>136054893
Welp, I was thinking of giving ps4 a shot for the bbg community but not with shit like this.

rip friends it was fun playing with you

>>136055326
>framedrops never happened in bloodborne

No one is going to fall for that.

>>136055326
I had something similar to that happen to me in BB. The "community garbage" were complaining about slowdowns when they played the game as well.

>>136055493
Not him but it dips below 10 fps, I don't recall Bloodborne ever doing that. Nor slow motion.

>>136055493
I didn't say frame drops didn't happen but I've never had an enemy's attack miss me and still do damage during said frame drops

Is it true that Lady Maria poops black pudding uncontrollably ?

>>136055326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIT9IpBvb0g

This was like the worst ever

>>136055676
BB release was pretty bad. With patches things became smoother. I believe that will also be the case with DS3.

I'm glad I did not pick the japanese version so by the time the US version comes out there might be a patch out. Also, I think I'll do my first playthrough on PC anyway. But I'll probably main PS4 if those issues become bearable like in BB.

>The Living Failures
>Infinitely more adept at combat than the emissary, or most kin enemies for that matter
>Hey, what do we do with these assholes that can't even talk to Great ones?
>You mean those guys that can spellcast effectively and hit really hard?
>Yeah, those guys
>eh, just leave them in the Lumenwood Garden, We'll never need anything like that

>>136055749
Or when the witches are summoning, in FRCs.

If I get the moon rune version of DaS3, but my PS4 is set to english, the game will be in english, right?

>>136056109
No. You'll get English dialogue because that's the default. All item descriptions and menus will be in moon language.

>>136056109
No, the game is not multilang

>>136054242
If you can handle yarhaghul online you can handle that. Weee bit of an exaggeration as well

>>136056149
>I have a french version of BB
>it turns to english when PS4 is english
Why are japanese so monolanguage?

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>>136054893
>those silly ass rolls

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BRING BACK QUICKSTEPPING

>>136054345
>The whole "PC community is shit" is a meme

Sure buddy

>>136056264
I-I-I prefer rolls, senpai.

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>mfw was too busy with the habbenin threads on pol and missed the das3 stream
Fug

>>136056568
You missed over an hour of a guy dying to a tree because he didn't attack any of its easy weak spots
You missed another hour of a guy running past everything and not using any weapon

See you next month, /bbg/.

I'll have to wait to get my codes from Play-asia?
I heard they send them, and it takes three weeks.

what kind of stats should a moonlight greatsword build have in BB?
first playthrough and all i know is that the sword is in the game but idk where caps are and stuff and that the sword is in the dlc

>>136056741
Depends if you're capping yourself for pvp

>>136056741
25 str / 12 skill / 40 arcane

or

25 str / 25 skl / 25 arcane

Can only Cursed Chalices give Cursed Blood Gems?

>>136056741
>what kind of stats should a moonlight greatsword build have in BB?
It's a split-damage weapon and Scales from Strength, Skill, and Arcane.
Depending on where you what your level to wind up, you could do 25/25/25, 50/12/14, or even 25/25/50. Or if you give zero fucks 50/12/50 or something.

>>136056619
Oh good
>>136056684
>3weeks
It's pretty much instant

>>136056741
Do a 117 Masterbuild and have it 50 STR 12 skl 50 arc

>>136056963
the winter lanterns in fisherman's hamlet drop cursed gems up to 22% or something like that.

>>136056963
Chalices or Winter Lanterns

>>136056741
You get the HMS after you kill Ludwig. Talk to his head with a church outfit, then tell him his spartans went well. Or just kill the head.
Then, HMS get strong with nourishing/arcane/tempering gems, depending on how you'll use it.
Tempering is for everything but the beams.
Arcane is for the beams.
Nourishing is for both.

An easy setting is getting the nourishing +15%, the tempering +18% droplet, and the arcane +21% droplet. They're all in upper Mensis.

Trying to get Eileen working. I spoke to her on the way to father gassy. Killed him, killed BSB, opened all the gates leading to the cathedral and she's still in her first spot at the start of the aqueducts.

Should I kill Amelia or just assume shit's gone bad and kill Eileen?

>>136057280
Open the gates that lead to Amelia, she'll move to outside of Cathedral Ward. Talk to her before killing Amelia.

Anybody know where I can get some Cursed Nourishing Triangles, without farming FRC Amy?

>>136057415
Like the actual cathedral gate behind the wooden stickfags?

>>136057490
No, the gates before that. The ones you have to pull a lever. I'm not sure which of them triggers Eileen but just open them all and look outside the cathedral ward. She should be there and will give you a gesture while telling you not to go back to tomb of oedon, where she'll fight Henryk.

>>136057631
I opened the actual cathredral gate and she moved. Thanks, anon.

>>136043470
still need help?

So, japanese interviews just confirmed the following for DaS3

>Cannot invade solo hosts unless they are using Dried Finger
>In addition to Soul Level matchmaking, invader and host are also matched based on weapon upgrades
>Invaders cannot have a number advantage over the host, even in the situation that the host is alone and uses Dried Finger, which allows for two invaders

Kill me.

What's that boss you always seem to struggle on /bbg/? That boss that you have no business losing to, but you get your ass handed to you on every character

>>136058483
Wow really? This shit is fucked up. My hype was just reduced.

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>>136058483
You're kidding, right?

>>136058483
Oh, and
>Seeds of a Tree of Giants are in
>Dried Fingers allow three phantoms to be summoned
>Cannot invade areas with a dead boss

WORSE
THAN
BLOODBORNE

Oh, and how about the speed of Estus recovery? Fucking unchanged from the network test, practically unpunishable

>>136058483
>cannot invade solo hosts in the beta
>"it's just a beta, guys. They'll change it"
>it was not changed after all
I don't even mind the weapon upgrades influence on matchmaking. That's ok. But only invading people that are doing co-op or using a dried finger is fucked up.

Jesus, I'm mad. Fuck this shit.

>>136058519
Amelia

>>136058635
>cannot invade areas with a dead boss
Literally worse than das2

>>136057470
So... no?

>>136058519
Living Failures

>>136058836
???
DaS2 invasions are the only good invasions in the entire series.
Instant connections, low cooldown timers, can invade hollows and areas with dead bosses, blue orbs check the entire world for sinners, etc.

>>136058635
This.

You're basically fucked as an invader since most of the time you'll get ganked. Fighting ganks is ok. Fun at times, frustrating at others, but it's ok.

But now you can't make dick moves like using the other enemies to your advantage, because of fucking seed of a Tree of Giants.

It's like they don't want people to invade each other.

IF ANYONE MENTIONS DS3 HERE AGAIN IM GONNA GET MAD!

>>136059049
Dark Souls 3 wa sugoii!

>>136058935
That's the point
Das2 fucked up a fair amount of game mechanics, but aside from not having an unlimited use red eye orb, das2 did invasions better than its predecessors.

Not sure why people are getting so angry about invasions sucking balls again; there'll be still fight clubs arranged, which circumvent the issues mentioned.

The really awful part about DS3 will be people from this general splitting up to play it on PC, or haunt /dsg/ to discuss the game.

Drisful you fag.
>IT'S ALL YER FAULT!

>>136059474
>invasions sucking balls again;
Why? Have not followed what happened.

>>136060675
Pretty much is BB's invasion system but even worse for invaders.

>>136060675
>Cannot invade unless host has butt buddies or wants to duel, basically bloodborne
BUT
>Matchmaking based on weapon upgrades
>If you kill the boss, no more invasion lol

>>136058519
Gascoigne and story Rom
Only once have I beaten both on my first try and even then I was severely panicked against papa G

>>136058868
I got a 21% triangle from a watcher but with how big the drop table is you're better off just farming Amy.

>>136060675
Imagine if you took the absolute worst invasion mechanics from Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls II, and Bloodborne.

That's what they did.

>>136061221
I am really hoping it was mistranslated
After the DS2 Blunder, then the BB uplifting, this will just kill the game for me.

>>136061507
fromsoft always take 2 steps forward in one aspect and one giant leap back in some other aspect.

>>136058519
cursed hot dog and headless BLB

fuck everything about those niggers

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>TFW Bloodborne is now objectively the best game from FROM
>TFW Bloodborne will live on due to its extremely tight and polished gameplay
>TFW PKEKS holding out on Bloodborne due to Dead Souls 3 will be forced to buy a PS4
>Bloodborne will be dead soon guise :^)

You faggots are gonna come crawling back to /bbg/ in a week or so.

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>>136062016

>>136061507
It doesn't matter if mistranslated or not, people are overreacting. Dried Finger let's a host who wants to be invaded, be invaded. The co-op thing from BB is annoying but quite understandable since there'd need to be some downside to summoning help. A lot of people don't like Souls PvP due to the added difficulty of trying to get past a tough area only to get lagstabbed by Mr Well-what-is-it. It's basically the best way to satisfy both the audience who doesn't like PvP and the one who does.

My only concern is whether there'll be a way to prioritize or "choose" between invading someone using a dried finger and the co-oper or ganksquad. Regardless, it's a better approach towards counter-acting trolls or twinks looking for easy prey than fucking soul memory.

>>136059049
Is this a new meme?

>>136058519
Headless Bloodletting Beast, Lower Loran Abhorrent and Lower Loran Darkbeast.

>>136062168
That looks like one of Luci's characters.

>>136062238
But invasions tokens check the whole world, right?
And there's still forced invasion areas, right?

>>136062238
Furthermore the ingame ember mentions being able to be invaded upon usage, and the leddit translation doesn't say that using the dried finger is the only way to get invaded without a phantom.

The Dried Finger opens the last white phantom slot but also opens the second invader slot. What's stupid is this weapon reinforcement aspect. That was a Tanimura-driven decision if I've ever seen one.

>>136062016
I love BB and /bbg/ but how could they screw DS3 invasions like this?

I was expecting more online interactions in DS3. It would make up for what I missed in BB but fuck that.

BB ended up being the superior game due to stupid dev choices in both games.

>>135989530
>that last fight

was he seriously just backpedal bmaing? what the fuck

>>136062238
It's not the same you nigger. Invasions are supposed to be an unexpected random threat that makes you shit yourself in either fear or excitement or both. When there's just a few people running around using dried fingers you are just guaranteeing yourself an invasion and it servers no other purpose than generic duels.

>>136062238
>people are overreacting
There's a immensely drastic decrease of invasions and it will literally be nigh impossible to find a typical 1v1 I'm invading you to be a dick scenario. And even if it did happen he has more HP than you do and probably has a stronger weapon.

Don't apologize for this completely and utterly shit system. It will be dead in a couple months on all platforms.

>>136062645
At least we can have FC's
but yeah random invasions will be fucking dead

>>136058519
Defiled Keeper, fuck her and her stunlocks or insta-gib attacks.

>>136062467
Invasions have only ever checked the area you're in, so I don't think that'll change. Too early to tell whether there'll be forced invasion areas or not.

If people like PvP, they'll get their PvP. If people enjoy stomping on scrubs with superior equipment and the NPC enemies on their side, too fucking bad.

>>136062624
>>136062645
"Le maste troles xD" detected. You don't want PvP, you want to be a cock - there's a difference.

>>136062645
Nope. They'll patch it.
They're blocking invasions at start to limit the twink that got the game earlier. They're fucking the discover of the game, and often trigger no fun.

>>136062852
>"Le maste troles xD" detected.
Except I was talking about GETTING invaded. Fuck off you stupid shitter.

>>136062852
INVASIONS WERE MEANT TO BE DICKBUTT INVADED YOUR SHIT TO VIOLATE YOUR BOYPUSSY YOU DENSE FUCK

>>136062952
You're an ignorant retard.

>>136062953
>>136063001
Do you always fire insults when you're trying to defend your opinion, rather than offer explanations as to why you reckon said opinion is correct? Hard to take you seriously when you're acting like manchildren.

>>136062550
>What's stupid is this weapon reinforcement aspect
Why?

>>136063253
>explain why it's bad
>get called a cock and a le master trole
>call you a fucking idiot scrub
>w-woow guys why u have to be so rood :((

Get out.

>>136063624
After you.

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Alright this is enough


AWAY AWAY

Why is ayy mode so fun?

>>136064906
Because that dodge animation makes everything funnier.

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>Bloodborne is gonna be dead in a few weeks amirite guys ;^)

>>136060017
What did I do?

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>>136065269
It's already dead. Why would anyone come back to chalice farming and this poorly coded pvp?

>>136065419
Because Bloodborne doesn't have Equipment Memory, or very slightly different versions of the same weapons making up 90% of the variety.

>>136065682
And? Twinking is thoroughly unpleasant. Creation, waiting, and actually killing., why even?
Ordinary invasions are irritating. Nightmares are full of shitters. Healing is always a bitch.
What variety? 90% of people just use saif/rakuyo.
Co-op? Why?

>>136065937
oh, you're shitposting. Nevermind then

>>136065937
You either die a critter or play long enough to see yourself become a shitter.

>>136066102
>"You either die a critter or play long enough to see yourself become a shitter."
-/bbg/ 2016

>>136062952
just like they've patched bell maidens out in bb, huh

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>hit from behind
>die
>spend 2 minutes slowly turning around and crumpling to the floor before loading screen

>>136065419
>Why would anyone come back to chalice farming and this poorly coded pvp?
Same reason people still play des,das1-2.

>>136066898
>people still play des
They don't

Are you implying DaS2 has anything like chalice farming or the netcode within?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YM65d6Dg6k

Trying to get my platnium trophy before DaS3 comes out. Anyone wanna carry me through the Greater Ithyll chalice? I'm on the Pthumerian Descendant right now.

>>136067151
If you could wait two hours, I'll be done class and I'll definitely love to help through lhya

>>136067034
>Are you implying DaS2 has anything like chalice farming
it has worse
like non-respawning red npcs dropping unique gear with 2% chance

>>136067274
Trying to get the monastery scimitar.
Trying to get a piece of armour o lord fuck that shit

>>136067274
Yeah that's pretty gay, good thing you don't need anything from those like how you need gems

You know what's worse though?
0.05% perfect offshapes / adepts, or even the grind for a single good curse 27.2%, and that's an easy one

>>136067235

I can try to wait two hours!

>>136067151
I think i have the chalice open, pass?

>Music box plays Wet Nurse boss theme
>Eileen is looking at Gascoigne's house in central yharnam
>the place you defeat Gascoigne is called "Tomb of Oedon"
WAKE UP YHARNAM

>>136067678

Pass is 'pthuyou'

>>136067948
Eileen being Wet Nurse confirmed.

>>136067948
Dude no. The reason for Eileen looking over Gascoigne's house is because they used to date, but Gascoigne NTR'd her. That's why she's sure "It had to be done"

>>136067948
>Mergo is turning men into beasts
>Gascoigne is turning into a beast
>Gascoigne is stunned by the box
>Mergo's Wet Nurse is stunned by the box
>Great ones get mad when you bring up their children
>Gascoigne eventually goes berserk when you remind him of his children too much
>Central Yharnam is very close to the Astral Clocktower
>The Astral Clocktower connects to the hidden lake of mud
>Great ones all lose their child but Kos did not lose her child, or perhaps
>Orphan of Kos is old
>Gascoigne is old
>Orphan of Kos turns men into beasts
>Gascoigne wears a wolfpelt, the folklore method of turning into a beast

it all comes together
but perhaps you should find your own answers

>>136068897
Sorry, anon, but Eileen is lesbian. Gascoigne went beastmode because he found his wife in bed with Eileen.

If a character is good, it means they're either gay or secretly evil - so the other option is, in fact, that Eileen is Wet Nurse.

>>136068371
You still around?

>>136069231

Yep. Ringing in front of the pthumerian descendant's fog door.

>>136069231
coming too pham

>>136069309

As in, a second person?

That chained combo tho

Man, I think Bloodborne's scenery shines more in the morning/afternoon. Which is unfortunate some areas can't be visited at night.

Anyone want to come through Old Yharnam NG+ with me?

>>136067948
So Oedon took a mortal form and Eileen is cuck?

>>136069423
yep SRRCing so it might be long

>>136069750
It'll probably be faster to run through since we're on the first layer

>>136069815
can't remove chalices
so I've to wait making one with SRRC

>>136069925
that's too long, don't wait for me guys, sorry

Wanna help with the dungeon too, or just the bosses?

>>136070843
I can do both

>>136070912

Sure! Ringing at the start of the second layer, then.

Anyone wanna bully ayybrietas with me?

Where do I go after Vicar Amelia?

>>136070912

That kill counted! Yaay.

Anybody know where I can get some Cursed Nourishing Triangles, without farming FRC Amy? I'm not looking for 20's. 16-17's more than adequate.

>>136071772
Touch the crane in grand cathedral, then get down the stairs until the plaza. From here, search for a little alley, get in, and follow it. You'll come to stairs getting down, and a door. Give the password, you're in forbidden woods now.

>>136071941
Maybe offshape lhyll gargoyles, if not, I don't recall getting nourishing gems in Isz.

>>136031760
You're a fucking idiot

>>136071868
Sorry about that, my controller died just as we entered.

>>136071868

No clue what her attacks do, sorry about just getting stunlocked.

>>136036919
>>136037170
>>136037479
>>136045874
DeS is easily the worst Souls game. People who elevate it's value artificially, do so because of nostalgia. It's massively overrated.

Some of the problems with DeS
>Only maybe half the archstones are even any fun at all
>The best side content is locked behind the world tendency mechanic
>World Tendency is generally shit
>Most of the weapons are generic and boring
>Almost every boss is just a small gimmick you have to figure out before the fight becomes trivially easy
>Heavy armor is kind of worthless
>There's only fat roll and fast roll
>Item Burden means you can end up completely fucked over in some circumstances

It's a good game, but Dark Souls is a complete upgrade in almost every respect.

>>136072115
>Maybe offshape lhyll gargoyles
I've been farming them for two days. No offshapes yet.

Is there a level "cap" to stay under for coop summoning like there was in DaS?
I feel like it took forever to get someone to answer my bell the triple shadows.

>>136072645
>Is there a level "cap" to stay under for coop summoning like there was in DaS?
Yes and no.

Yes if you want randoms, although the range is very wide.
No if you're going to use passwords, since they eliminate any kind of level matching.

>>136072542
>DeS is easily the worst Souls game
That's not how you spell DaS2.

>>136072851
DaS2 SotFS shits all over DeS for days. Not even worth comparing.

>>136072921
(You)

Anyone want help with anything? Librarian Kana offers her services. Nothing sexual though, she's a pure lumenwood.

>>136072738
I must suck at this game, because I didn't know you could set passwords on the bell ringing.

>>136072921
I think you meant das2 DLC, because everything that is not the dlc areas in sotfs is pretty much the same as vanilla das2. Sure, some enemy placements are better and explain a few things, but the game is still shit. The DLC areas, on the other hand, have god tier level design. They have some annoying parts, like the coop areas, but generally speaking, they are better than anything you get in vanilla das2.

>>136073052
Can she tell me where I can get Cursed Nourishing Triangles without farming FRC Amy?

>>136073107
>everything that is not the dlc areas in sotfs is pretty much the same as vanilla das2
You literally couldn't be mroe wrong if you tried. It's the exact opposite. SotFS changed almost nothing in the DLC but overhauled the rest of the game quite heavily.

>>136072462

It was very fun. Thank you for helping! Sorry for scrubbing it up. You have a very cute twink hunter.

>>136073232
Glad to help

>>136073159
fp23u5nc

Layer 4 chest in first bonus area. 19% and with a curse.

>>136073227
Anon, I'm playing the game right now and it's the same fucking shit. Some things are better, others are absolute garbage, but overall it's still vanilla das2. The DLCs is where it's at if you want good level design and having fun.

>>136073364
Pretty rough that I'm going to have to fight through three Layers for every roll, but I appreciate it.

FRC?

>>136073529
It's a one time thing, as far as I know about chest gems - sorry. And yes, it is.

>>136073409
>Anon, I'm playing the game right now
Good for you. That doesn't change how intensely and fundamentally wrong you are about what the changes are like.
>but overall it's still vanilla das2.
No it's not. It's significantly upgraded in every fucking area. Are you about to tell me that castle Drangleic hasn't been hugely improved? Are you implying that Dragon Shrine isn't much much more fun now? Didn't you notice how much they changed Brightstone Cove or Shaded Woods? Fuck, I couldn't ever consider going back to vanilla DaS2's version of Heide's Tower, because the new one is far better with the drake and the knights with the special triggers and whatnot.

Literally every part of the vanilla game got some pretty serious upgrades. If you're too jaded to notice or give the game credit, that's pretty sad.

>>136073529
Just back up your save and reload between tries

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Just beat The One Reborn, how much until the end of the game?

Also, where should I allocate my stats next?

I use Saw-Blade, I got 25 in both Skill and Str. Should I put more than 25 in STR now? I got 25 in Vitality. Also I'm level 62.

>>136073735
Do you know when the game sets the chest? Creation of the Dungeon, opening of the chest, getting to the Layer it's on?

>>136073690
>And yes, it is.
Shit, I probably won't even be able to make it.

>>136073705
>upgrades
Putting random mobs in random places isn't an upgrade. Most, if not all, of the placements don't make any sense, and the game is still awful.

I do believe I was bamboozled.
Someone recommended I buy Ludwig's Holy Blade and use that over the Saw Cleaver, but the damn thing does even less damage than the cleaver.

>>136073938
We were all bamboozled. Split damage was a mistake.

>>136074051
At which point should I switch weapons from the Cleaver to something else? I don't want to waste all my twin blood shard things.
I don't have the DLC if that matters.

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>no maskless witch hat

At least the game knew enough to let me be a pretty princess

>>136073938
They're both great weapons. Ludwig's will do more damage with the appropriate build but aside from that it also has superior range and staggering. And a lot of people just think it looks cool.

>>136073761
>Putting random mobs
Literally none of the placements are random. They all make sense from a world building and lore perspective
>Most, if not all, of the placements don't make any sense
List some shit. I'll educate your pathetic ignorant little butt
>the game is still awful
It was never awful. SotFS is a good game getting better.

Looking for jolly cooperation for Blood-starved Beast NG+.

Pass is muhflaps. Ringing at lamp.

>>136074195
>I don't have the DLC if that matters.
Oh. Oops. Man, I'm so bitter I read "Holy Moonlight Sword" instead of "Ludwig's Holy Blade".

LHB is a good weapon. It has great Strength scaling, but also higher than average Arcane Scaling; it shines as an elemental weapon.

>At which point should I switch weapons from the Cleaver to something else?
Honestly, only when you find a weapon you like better.

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>>136074274
>so bootyblasted he replied to the wrong post