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Waiting warmly by the fire edition

Previous Thread: >>135941121

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with International Early Access beginning March 29th, and F2P release beginning April 28th.

>Can I play the game now?
International servers open for Early Access on March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ #1: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895
Early Access FAQ #2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-faq-on-the-latest-announcement/153003

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Early Access begins March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
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first for lolibutt
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cuckTOS in a week+1 day
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xth for mememasters
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How do you make money in this game?

I'm perpetually poor.
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Did the add some dialog lines for Helga in kToS?
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>>135979821
DELETE THIS
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>No Onion Knight R1 Swordsman that prevents from changing into any other class later on, have no skills but has massive stats and can equip anything.
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>not accurately checking your ping to the US east server
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rate my build
me and my gf will play together
also my ping is 100 is it good?
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>>135979821
Honestly TOS being an online game would be pretty cool.
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>>135979914

thank god, this is totally retarded.

anyway, you can be a retarded yourself and level a c1 to the level cap. Please, no Cleric. Cleric is easy mode.
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Is this legit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4bbfaq/the_wugushi_problem/

Is wugushi really useless in minigames? How easy is it to get antidotes?
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>>135980163
Wugushi are op. One shot, no counter, etc.

t. lolopan
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>>135979923
I expected worse.
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>>135979819
Jewing the market is the true endgame
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>>135979819
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What is better for Quarrel build ?

Str or Dex ?
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>>135980385
mc fucking yoursekf btard
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>>135978852
>>135978879

Well there is too much info, I briefly checked through but it would take me like 2 hours to go through all of it.

Someone please just tell me what wizard classes got changed the most. I heard the linker was nerfed and wizard C2 buffed but that's it.
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>>135979667
Fuck yeah
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I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna buy the Founder's pack.
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>>135980385
I would have answered you but you posted 3DPD like the retarded normie you are. Fuck off, you are not welcome here.
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>>135980486
>OP Pastebin
>Class Changes since iCBT2: http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam

0/10, apply yourself
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>>135980486
There is pastebin in
>TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd about class changes, its even divided into sections, you fucking retard.
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>>135980431
dude could you at least pick one of the two possible answers that i gave ?
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Don't even know if i should play iTOS since it also has 5 dungeon entries now. Logged into kTOS, did some dungeons and was disgusted so logged off again. Maybe it just feels that way because playing the korean version is pointless now.
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>>135980692
no
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>>135980385
>>135980692
These are men.
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>>135980552
its just a phase bro my heart belongs to my 2d waifu
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>>135980759
It's still 2+2, the last patch to iTOS just updated older patch files for some reason which had 5+0 runs. It should still use the later patch files.
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>>135980759
>since it also has 5 dungeon entries now
It doesn't
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>>135980759
itos has 4 dungeon entries

>>135980163
yes, wug can't do shit in pvp get fucked
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>>135980692
yes
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>>135980385
>>135980692
get out.
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>>135980879
0/10
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Everyone ready to log in at the first possible second to try and rush their name?
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Why is this game so biased towards Swordsmen?
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>>135980385
>>135980692
>>135980879
Posting 3d should be a bannable offense.
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>paying for a free game
>paying for a free game where the swordsman is the only viable class
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>>135981098
Towards clerics you mean, right
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Caralho que fio ruim pra porra. Se matem.
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>>135980163
>playing wugushit
>linking plebbit

Get out
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>>135980995
>Having some common weaboo name
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>>135980995
Does the team name show up as the last name of every character you make?
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>>135981098
Great build
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>>135981098
Swordman is literally the weakest tree you retard
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Remember, I am the only true tripfag of /tosg/! Don't respond to any tripfags other than me!
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>>135980976
>>135980930
>>135980929

Can you guys stop being so shallow

here i love 2d just give me a insight here for the Quarrel

Str or Dex ?
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>>135980586
>>135980601

Nvm I am retarded.
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>>135981098
t. Stoneskin Beakmaskbosa
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I can get used to have a Pardoner C3 in my party
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>>135981297
1.53 str per 1 dex
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>>135981175
But think of the rage if you took 'Uzumaki' and never, ever made a character named Naruto.
>>135981205
Yes.
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>>135981297
very good build man
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>>135981254
Кypвa, ты зaeбaл гoвнoпocтить. Пиздyй paбoтaть.
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>>135981390
And a nice day to you too my great Lithuanian friend! *wink*
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Has the orca retard, or whatever his subhuman name is, ever posted or said anything than isn't a shitpost in cyrillic?
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>>135981253
No they aren't you fucking idiot.

Once more, swordsmen do not suck. That's a dumb meme we created so less people roll swordsmen and roll other classes instead since too many people were rolling swordsmen.

The general consensus is actually that Doppel C2, Dragoon, and Fencer C2 are all powerful in their own right and not underpowered at all.
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i just want to sleep and wake up 29/03
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>>135980163
Who cares, PvP in this game is a joke.
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I bought the package.

What have I done..
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jesus didnt die for this
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>>135981510
You are polish, you understood me, right?
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>>135981574
I said weakest tree, not underpowered stupid fuck
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>>135981593
this
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>>135981751
>t. Fuck you
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>>135981710
>playing any game for any reason other than pvp
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>>135981748
Of course. I shitpost myself a lot, it's fun passtime until 26th.
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Reposting, still need some feedback on >


Swordsman:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11.1123354551
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111.11213a4a516572
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111.11213b4f516a7185

Highlander:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#12.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#122.11233a41557585
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1222.213f41657a8a93

Peltasta:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#13.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#133.16263a415463
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1333.16263f415561758195

Hoplite:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#14.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#144.19283a415171
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1444.1b2b3f41516571

>Barbarian:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#16.1595b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#166.55659aa5b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1666.5a6a819daab1

>Cataphract:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#17.152535
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#177.152a3a55
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1777.112e3f5a65

>Rodelero:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1a.253575
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aa.2a3a517485
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aaa.2d3f51658a91

Corsair:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#18.11253475
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#188.112831557a85
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1888.1123315a7f8a95

Squire:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1b.15243145
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bb.1a31495565
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bbb.1f31495a6a

Doppelsoeldner:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#19.15243155
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#199.1a315a637383

>Fencer:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1e.24354571
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1ee.112a38456571

Centurion:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1c.15213145516181
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1cc.1a213145a1618195

Dragoon:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1f.15243541

Templar:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1g.152135

Shinobi:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1d.1325314155
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>>135981989
Did you learn russian in school?
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>>135980163
Antidotes are pretty easy to get desu.

Just play ranger into musk if you want to dominate in pvp
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>>135981989
your thoughts on vp sucking massive dongs
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>>135982154
Lose weight
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>>135982154
uhm
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>>135982154
you can't be fucking serious
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>>135982154
uhmmmmm
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>tfw eight more days of this ;_;
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>>135981981
>not playing because of cuteness
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>diminishing returns on skill enhancement
>market ruled by perfect competition
Just like my Economics 101 classes
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>>135982420
amazing
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>>135982452
Priorities.
You make a list with all alive games with pvp
Then you pick the cutest
That's why I'm here anon
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>>135982165
No I put it in google translate. Which basically turned cyrillic into "normal" alphabet and I could grasp the sentence. I don't know much russian, outside of cyka blyat cheeki breeki etc

>>135982249
I like Pokemon. First gen TCG was great.
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>>135982816
Literally all me
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It is possible to use dragoon skills mounted?
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Waiting for Founder's Pack to play.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7aaqcnjsll/

Does anyone know how exactly the basecamp, and refreshment table works? The refreshment table has boosts, but what stats get boosted? I just want to be the best fucking blacksmith/party thrower.
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>>135982934
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!
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>>135983043
Good build.
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Hey, /tosg/, would you pic?
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>>135982976
yes
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>>135982976
Yes.
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How do we solve the BR problem?
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>>135983043
pretty good
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>>135983043
On suicide watch
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>>135983120
>t. Autentist the Autist
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>>135983220
IMC announces that they have cut off the internet cable connecting BRland to america
they make a BR server
monkeys in the zoo
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>>135983043
>Base Camp
Increases duration of buffs/debuffs cast next to it - 10% per skill level
Can be teleported to at any time by guild and party members.

>Table
Allows you to create food and distribute it to players.
List of food: +Max HP, +Max SP, +HP regen, +SP regen.
+Max is 10% on level 1, +2.5% per level, so level 10 table can increase your max HP and SP by 32.5%. Regens were +1 per skill level, iirc, shit.
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>>135983043
This is fucking horrible Jesus

>>135983195
y
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>>135983408
Chigaudesu
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>>135983414
They haven't even announced EU servers. Brazilian server is but a dream.
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>defense is useless in this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCAdLVHu54
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>>135981141
>>135981253
>swordsman
>4x more health than any other class
>highest sustained dps through all the patches
>only subclass that enhances money making without gimping yourself (corsair)
>ignore crowd control ability in your first fucking circle
>lower SP consumption than any other class, therefore needing no SPR

Swordsman may be boring, but they're far from being weak, shit changes drastically from one week to the next, a single skill change can turn any class into lolipan tier or a god tier, overall swordsman has been riding that rollercoaster every week.
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rofl there's people in this thread that play for the PvP? just play fucking street fighter for that
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>>135980163
Yes, wugu is a pve only class. It's cool though

>>135980385
DEX probably

>>135983885
DELETE THIS
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>>135983885
damn, the western release is going to be a shitfest of dmn and doddler-fed hacks, isn't it
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>>135983885
Where is damage?
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>>135984321
There is none because they're only going for defense :^)
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>>135983158
>>135983293
>>135983342
>>135983514
>discouraging a Squire C3
kys my friends, an absolute madman dropped you from the sky and instead of helping him, you are being cucks

>>135983043
Okay so regarding that build, Peltasta C2 + Cata C1 is pretty terrible idea because of weapons. Peltasta focuses on shields, and Cata gives you access to only 2h spears.
A path of Squire is a hard and challenging one. First of all, you'll be lacking damage after rank 4. You went for a tank build, but consider something more DPS'y, so you can do well when solo.

A lot of people seem to be against this, but Peltasta C3 is not too bad when it comes to dealing damage, but it's not "the king" in it, obviously.
Highlander C3 is also pretty legit, has nicer damage, can block attacks with two-handed sword, but no AoE taunt.

As for exact skill distribution, check the wall of builds above for general pointers, and then spice it up a bit if you wish.
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>>135983621
Maybe the BR server will also be the EU server.

Share the dream.
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>>135984106
>I'm a casual

t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>135983501
So would I be able to make game breakingly strong equipment if I got nothing but intelligence for Weapon and Amor maintenance?
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I actually have a serious question. I leveled to 224 lvl and im yet to see a necro. Are they that bad/expensive?
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>>135984548
how is pvp in this game anything more than a casual mess
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>>135984548
'sup casual
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>>135984597
Ask bingo
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>>135983043
AWESOME build man, keep it up!!
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>>135984106
I already do. Whatever game you could name, I already play it or played it.
What now, Scrub MCasual?
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>>135983918
Dont even try, they are the "atificial difficulty" kind of people who like to avoid the strongest stuff because they "want it to be a challenge" by hitting awfully now and dying on 1 hit.
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>>135983885
what build is that
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>>135984590
No, INT affects the amount of hits the weapon can do and the armor can take before buffs go away. In practice, the time runs out faster than hits, almost always.
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>>135984694
She left
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>Get excited to play TOS again
>Sure I'll throw down a few shekels for a BR free month
>It's not even available for another week

Damnit.
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>>135984712
you haven't played battle garegga, casualfriend
not beyond stage 3, for sure.
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>>135984106
Kill yourself wowbaby
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>>135983220
You don't. :3
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>>135984797
Ranger3-Fletcher2 (went for 3 later).
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>>135984106
FUCK OFF PVE QUEEN

FUCK CAREBEARS
FUCK CASUALS
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Do you think this game will loosen up over time with trading and market related restrictions? I remember on Mabinogi(a F2P game that you couldn't even advance in skills or do any of the storyline quests without paying at the start) you couldn't even open a shop without paying, but it got really relaxed later on. Does it seem like IMC has a plan for what they're going to sell, or does it look like they're just going to sell hair, panties, and clothes at first before moving on to selling weapons?
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>>135979914
Also known as potato mode.
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is stoneskin under the nerf radar? or is it working as intended?
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>>135985072
How're the fletcher skills? I'm thinking of making a C3 with Sapper C2
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>>135984106
I'm going to PK the shit out of you just for being this much of a gay
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>>135984856
>Sure I'll throw down a few shekels for a BR free month
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>>135985252
Priest is under the nerf radar.
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Get in
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>>135983885
So what is the secret behind this video? That "one weird trick" which makes it possible, that makes Kiritos hate it?
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>>135984495
I'm the Squire C3 guy.

I was thinking that as far as my character goes, I could be a huge tank, up until I become a huge blacksmith. Completely party reliant, because I must have problems.

>Should I just go Peltasta C3 instead of Pelt C2 + Cata C1?

>Hypothetically, if I were to invest in nothing but intelligence, would I be able to make game breaking equipment through Weapon/Armor maintenance?
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>>135985282
The dream is dead. Goddamnit.
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Speaking of PvP, is there a certain level people need to be to do it? I heard that it scaled up stats or something, does it? Are there any rewards like xp for winning or how does it work? I know there's some 5v5 thing but that's all I really know.
also is my build good https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11247bed.1323334353.14233444.14233444.14233444.15243442.2333435373.1224324354
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>>135985342
nooo how am i supposed to futureproof now
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>>135979914
I miss RO's novice and super novice. There's just something about everyone starting off the same and diverging.
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>>135985512
NARUTO???????
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>>135985282
algem?
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>>135985273
Extremely strong singletarget with Broadhead, Magic Arrow and Barbed Arrow. But Barbed and Crossfire in particular cost a fuckton of SP.

Sustained AoE is decent, but you have to spend so much SP for it which is really annoying. Meanwhile an Ele3 just drops a Frost Cloud and kills shit faster with like 15 times less SP usage.
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>>135985512
nice build man
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>>135985278
I'll make sure to run around you and last-hit every single monster you lay your hand on as you have absolutely fucking nothing to do about it, newfriend :)
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>>135985282
I heard there's advertisement on the streets there.
Not sure if that's true though, I tried searching for proof.
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>>135984984
you know the funny thing is wow and ff14 probably have better balanced pvp than this game
who knows about fun though
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>>135985776
If you are in a guild I'll pk you
If not I'll just go do my daily dungeons and log out like any other day
Your shitty pve shenanigans are weak fampie
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Which classes people are rolling for Musk? Since most skills doesn't work with a musket.
They're all going "full support" until there or is just a description error on tosbase?
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>>135985404
Unless you want the mount badly, go ahead. I played Pelt C3 Squire C3, and it wasn't too bad. I managed to solo Squire C2 advancement boss, when still wearing some really low level (1-10) gear. Sure it took few minutes, but Peltasta got buffed a bit since then in terms of offense.
But its' defense buffs are pretty bad right now. Pretty serious attack reduction for really insignificant defense increases. Shame, really. Hopefully they get fixed.

And like said here, >>135984826. INT won't make you stronger but in the future, who knows what IMC will do?
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>>135980163
As a Wugushi, this shit pisses me off.

Antidote shouldn't even be in the game, why would they make a potion that specifically removes one debuff that is a classes' main source of damage, and give it no CD on top of that? Is IMC literally retarded?
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>>135983885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pweAa8pjpXg

same thing as in this video.
200 def from Aspersion probably, but how do you get 400 def with that little points in CON.
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>>135985404
I'm not him, but I guess hopc2 could make up for your lack of damage and increase your block rate with Finestra.
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>>135985928
Why do people obsess over balance so much
Most competitive games aren't even balanced, why would a fucking mmo of all things be balanced?
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>>135985362

It's the slut bus!
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help me out /tosg/ should I main a memedoctor or a cryo
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>>135986005
Ranger for steady aim
Sapper for traps
Hunter for pet
Falconer for AoE on snipe
Archer c2 for swift step crit bonus
Scout for stealth and out of stealth bonus dmg

There's a lot of shit senpai
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>>135979923
>>135980319
HU3.
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>>135986005
>Since most skills doesn't work with a musket.
Auto weapon switch.
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I'm staring at all these classes and it's just like... where do I even start. Wow.
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>>135986168
go cryo>psycho
memedoctor is like the most overplayed shit in the game, and it's going to get the nerf bat sooner or later.
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>>135986303
good build
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>>135986154
Lineage is balanced
Lineage 2 is balanced
Aion is balanced
Blade and Soul is balanced

These are all PvP games.

I wonder why Koreans eat up NCsoft's games and not Tree of Savior? Maybe because IMC doesn't know how to balance for shit.
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Was planning on going cleric1 priest3 pardoner2 memedoctor1 but would I even be able to solo anything or would I have to group up constantly?
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>>135986303
Why not pick that one that looks cool?
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this indecision is killing me, between cata dragoon and hoplite dragoon
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>>135986154
you're right, but there's a lot of people who take pvp in this game incredibly seriously, to the point where that's the main reason they play
probably RObabbies crying for "muh WOE"
in reality it's just a very casual side aspect of the game.
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>>135986303
pick the ones with the best costumes.
this is a dress up simulator first and foremost.
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>>135986440
But what if the class I pick is shit?
Spoiler: I'm going to suck at playing it either way.
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>>135986376
yeah I was afraid of that. We should have a class poll in the OP
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>>135986141
This build is alright too. Only issue is that LITERALLY everyone uses spears.
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>>135986467
I'm one of those people, and balance still doesn't mean shit in a competitive environment. If you don't play the nost effective build/team composition is your own fault. I don't see how unbalance make it less competitive unless for some reason the game is 100% luck.
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>>135986694
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit#gid=435828731
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>>135986684
>dressup simulator
>only like 4 outfits in the cash shop
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>>135986684
If I was picking purely by outfit with no knowledge of the class itself?
Archer: Scout, Rogue, Schwarze Reiter / Falconer
Wizard: Pyromancer / Thaumaturge / Sorcerer / Necromancer
Cleric: Paladin / Pardoner / Oracle / Plague Doctor
Swordsman: Corsair / Fencer / Dragoon
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>>135986984
more will come soon. they are already making more costumes with the founder's packs money. probably. once they have enough sports cars.
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>>135986984

I think there's a total of 10 cash shop costumes with the recent patch now
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>>135986797
t. lolipantsu
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>>135987170
Wrong, motherfucker
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>>135986685
So pick good classes that look fun
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>>135987081
literally all the best classes
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>>135986984
they're focusing on adding real content to the game first
once they're done with that expect them to neglect the game and focus on cash shop updates every week
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>>135986797
>balance still doesn't mean shit in a competitive environment. If you don't play the nost effective build/team composition is your own fault
This is why GvG is more balanced than the arena minigame
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>>135987354
stay safe poverty ghost
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>>135987354
what's funny is that lolipantsu said the same thing and is shit at the game
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>>135987354
Stay safe poverty ghost
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>tfw you realize if they add a R2 ~ R4 hidden class that fits perfectly on your build after you reach that you can't change back.
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>>135987081
You can make it work. I don't see much problems with any of those other than Fencer being Rapier-locked.
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>>135987081
>No alchemist
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>>135987354
are you ready?
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>>135987546
>not leveling to 280 as R1 class for max futureproof
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>>135987546
Just make a new character! I'm sure we can accommodate some bonuses to be purchased in the TP Store to make your levelling experience easier.

t. IMC
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>>135987484
I'm most likely shit at the game too. Doesn't mean that I will not try to git gud, though.
But I don't see how that makes my point of view less valid.
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>>135987546

Remake. It's not hard anon.
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>>135987709
How viable is this? 280 is max level?
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>>135986453
I'm in the same boat, anime girl poster.
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>29 STILL hasn't arrived

That's it

I'm freezing myself.
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Item awakening sounds fun. Is it useless?
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>>135986132
If he has 220 plate gear (upgraded to +3) i guess it might be possible to get 400 DEF.
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>They don't know that you get instant rank cards for leveling to next advancement cutoff without advancing previously
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>>135988102
good
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>>135987912
>>135986453
Cata dragoon is better.

But if you really can't decide
Odds hoplite
Evens Cataphract
0 hoplite cataphract
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As someone whose spent 600 hours already playing icbt1 and 2 this is just a reminder of what is to come. Without 3x rates you're all going to be grinding Cathedral for weeks. They nerfed blue spawns too and even with cards which you shouldn't use early it's a bitch.

Also 60% of the population according to IMC's official polling is indeed BR. They crashed the instance and messaging server with their spamming of megaphones and crap for weeks.

For those faggots talking about instance dungeons and exp they don't mean shit when the server crashes and lags. Plus a lot of them didn't give dick shit for exp in iToS which they could just do again.
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>>135986685
Outside of Bokor and rodelero, everything works one way or another, and even Bokor works fine it's just that zombies are crap, and even mackangdal being secretly OP.

You can just copy the meme builds koreans are using for the tryhard content or pvp fotm if you feel insecure, but by the time you reach rank 7 those builds might be significantly changed already or nerfed to hell.

So you'll be stuck with some weak ass character you probably didn't even want to play just because it had some damage modifier toned up too high or some utility skill having no downtime and no flaws.

My suggestion is, if something sounds too good, make sure the other skills in the same class are decent too, if something sounds weak but fun take other classes that can still carry you regardless of one or two of your circles being bellow the average performance.

If you're entirely new and don't know the current meta, then lurk more, or watch some streams.
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>>135988117
You can also get 64 armor from Squire's Maintenance.

>>135988203
>"""""""""""""""iCBT veteran"""""""""""""""
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>>135987727
your point is right it's just that lolipantsu said something similar but in a retarded way.
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>>135987764
You know you have to level class level too right?
Getting from class level 1 to 15 as rank 6 takes more EXP as getting to character level 200.
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>>135988203
>60%
This can't be right.
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How do you guys think the ERP will be in this game? High or low?
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>>135988568
Kill yourself.
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>>135988203
>grinding Cathedral
>ever
found the retard
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>>135988568
Read: >>135988631

Then kill yourself.
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>>135988489
Just get ahead of the curve then, don't sleep the first 1-2 days and you'll be easily 30 levels higher than the average BR, they won't bother you unless you're in a main city flashing your panties.
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>>135988194
>0 hoplite cataphract
HopCata3 seems better for Stabb and some Finestra.
There isn't many options anyway, except for Restrain on Sword3 which is kinda lame and almost exclusive for PVP that also gets rekt by any plague doc or Thighlander2 for memestroke+bleeding combo and moulinet.
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>>135988568
Kill yourself.

>>135988631
>>135988693

Then do this.

Kill yourself.
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>>135988194
THAT'S IT, JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP!

ROLL
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>>135986453
Do you want to PvP? Cata3>Dragoon3
Do you want to PvE? Hop3>Doppel>Dragoon
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>D-don't roll Priest or Doctor, everyone and their mother are playing them
Most of the kTOS Doctors I met aren't competent enough for their level and after reading the Cleric advice around here, that's going to be the same for international

Also, more than half of the people asking for Chaplain/Doc advice will probably drop before reaching it because I doubt they can play a dull and bot-like class like Priest.
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>>135988862
but can you do relative good with cata on pve?
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>>135988194
0 is even
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>>135988203

According to Steamspy, about 16% of the playerbase is BRs. But this only counts people who own the game not people who bought early access.
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>>135988987
Obviously, as long as you have Dragoon you'll do fine regardless of what shit-tier lolipantsu build you had before.
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>>135988940
can you give some advice to be good?
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>>135986432
pls respond
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>>135988203
>muh icbt2
kek
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>>135988203
>instance dungeons don't mean shit when the server crashes and lags
This tbqh, the only non retarded thing you said
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@135989169 (You)
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>>135988631
>>135988693
>>135988815
That doesn't answer my question, Anons~
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>>135989051
0 is a prime number idiot
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sword 3 > hoplite 3 > templar

I'm going to be dead weight and you can't stop me.
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>>135989259
anime is gay
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>>135989326
why not cata?
restrain + going fast as fuck is top tier pvp material.
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>>135988568
who are these semen demons
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>>135988739
The loli-archetype isnt predominant in BR, dude.
You're so wrong that you probably don't know shit about BR. It's all about big booty/boobs there, muh bruh. Loli/pantsu is a niche.
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Advice on this build?
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>>135989334
don't be silly
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>>135989326
>templar without cata3
lol
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>>135989147
>Turn off your brain
>Cast all your buffs
>Keep looking at the timer under your SP bar
>Press heal key once in a while
>Repeat again since step 2 until you win
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>>135989468
very good centurion build.
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>>135989248
You're doing this wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWN77MKzzg

this is just someone spamming skyliner with really good ping right?
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>>135989474
Fuck off homo.
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So which class is shit tier ?
I wanna be useless and irrelevant fuckboi carried by lolis
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How hard will be linker nerfed on itos?
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Is there a list of what Detonate Trap on sapper works on? Also it works on ally stuff too right?
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>>135989463
this slut is far from being a loli, dude
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>>135989646
severely compared to icbt2 but it is still really good
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>>135989637
Rodelero
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>>135989260
0/n = 0, ∀ n != 0
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>>135989421
Mounts are ugly.
Also I'm a snowflake.
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>>135989619
holy fuck this is like Agi knight from RO, my god damn dream build

plz tell me he isn't hacking or anything, I want to play exactly that character with that damage
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>>135989619
Skyliner doesn't have charge bar. Don't know what that is.
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>>135989637
Quarrel shitter
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>>135989648
>Is there a list of what Detonate Trap on sapper works on?
Probably anything you can think of, even your traps

>Also it works on ally stuff too right?
Yes
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>>135989619
Seems like a bug, he casts Skyliner and then some other ability to keep the hits coming out?
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>>135989619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgG5QHAPlMw

has to be a bug
>>
THIS JUST IN
TOKENS ALLOW 1:1 TRADING
WE NOW HAVE A NEW WEAPON AGAINST BR
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>>135989619
>exploitshit
>isnt even 280
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>>135990016
DELETE THIS
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There is korean that plays with wiz3-link2-necro-sorc and it seems at least pretty ok. What do you think, /tosg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5iutnmZ9A4
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>>135989859
>>135989870
>>135989941

I think he is casting Skyliner and Skyliner has an after action delay to prevent ridiculous spamming, he bypass it by tapping a channeled ability (I think it is earth wave) and instantly skyliner again.
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How is Psychokino? Haven't played him during the beta. With all it's teleports and swaps it might be pretty good at PvP or am I wrong? Don't know how good it is on PvE.
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>>135989870
that's the animation for skyliner. the lil blue slash
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>>135990016
I want what she's having.
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>>135990107
food
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>>135990047
what do you mean
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>>135990124
Makes sense. Pretty crazy.
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>>135988940
>more than half of the people asking for Chaplain/Doc advice will probably drop before reaching it because I doubt they can play a dull and bot-like class like Priest.
Hey, I had a AA Priest on iCBT2 and she was more fun to play with than my ThighBarb2, Ranger2, Archer3, Cryokino, Pyrolinker and Hoplite. I mean, seriously, was pretty fun.
Now I'm think of a Chap->Oracle->PagueDoc for the same style of gameplay that I had on iCBT2 or roll a Cataphract3->Dragoon for muh two-handed spear.
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>>135990124
My mistake

>돌격 Rush

Is what she is casting, check the action bar, probably tapping like crazy.
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>>135989619
>skyliner didn't need a nerf guys

this shit is broken in kToS. it makes all choices other then highlander 2 for swordsman bad choices.
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>>135990331
>>135990254
He commented on video in comment section that its skyliner + rush ffs. Can you read, fags?
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Daily reminder that Skyliner got nerfed for iTOS. You asked for this. You made her cry.
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>>135990387
t. Stoneskin Beakmaskborsa
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>>135990240

Don't sell tokens to poorfags on the market place. Trade them with other token users.
>>
i want to be an anime memer? when can i play this game in us?
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>>135990474
fully justified. the only reason it's not changed in kToS right now is that the population is already dwindling there and everyone would get super mad if the OP skill got nerfed on their class and quit
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>>135990387
>what is Hop3
>what is Fencer1 and 2
Skyliner merely provide sustainable DPS if you don't go Rapier or Spear route. Now it's fucking crap.
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>>135990474
I thought that Cartar Stroke was the OP swordsman thing? What did they do to Skyliner?
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>>135990667

did you not read my post? it was MANDATORY to take highlander 2 if you're going swordsman. now you have choices again.

it should never be mandatory to take a certain class
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>>135990796
hi rebbit
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>>135990635
Why is the population dwindling?
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>>135990667
Even spear user were taking high2 over hoplite just for muh memeliner
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>>135990812
No it's not?
You can go Sword - Pelt - Hop3 - Doppel - Dragoon for Spear Throw spamming.
You can go Sword - Pelt - Barb3 - Fencer for Rapier spamming.
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>>135990871
hi 4cenh
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>>135990812
Now wizard should be nerfed.
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>>135990987
>6000 damage on a long ass animation is really good guise
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>>135990987
except all hop builds were taking highlander 2 for skyliner spam while their skills were on cd. it was literally the best PvE dps swordsman build.

I guess that fencer build was the only other one but i still think taking highlander 2 over barb 3 would of produced far my dps
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>>135990987
>barb3 over highlander 2

You must be trolling son
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>>135991041
You mean king of Aoe (Wiz3, Ele3, Warlock) or hue shards (pyro, cryo, kino, rune)?
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>>135990635
Right now it replaces auto attacks. There are other spells that can do that (Thrust, Double Punch) but it shouldn't be something everyone is building around.
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>still no official iTOS patch notes

what if the skyliner nerf isn't actually true? i know someone datamined it but who knows if that's final these days
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>>135991324
I mean quickcast attribute.
>>
I think I might go either Dragoon / Fencer if swordsman, Plague Doctor / something with Paladin if I go cleric, or... something to do with Schwarzer Reiter or Musketeer if archer.

What are some of the most 'fun' to play classes, if PvP isn't a concern in the slightest?
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>>135991291
Spear Throw got changed to 0cd only recently when everyone already have Highlander C2. I guess a way to make it work is to restrict Skyliner to 2h swords only or something so not everyone and their mother will take it. But of course IMC can't do anything right.
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>>135991465
well we don't know for sure
what we do know is they said iToS would be different from kToS, so it's very likely the balance will tweaked drastically to keep people from abusing overpowered abilities and reaching end game in the blink of an eye.
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>>135991532
But only now that shit is good for every single build instead of only being useful for Elementalist, there is nothing wrong with that imo
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I wanted to go fencer, but then i remembered my internet is shit, so the timed skills would be useless for me.

I guess ill now have to do a doppelsöldner image.
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>>135991656
Wrong quote.

>>135991154
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>>135991532

Eat shit archernigger
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>>135991801
I actually spit my drink

Are you 12?
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>>135991532
>Quickcast attribute

Reduce that and there is virtually no reason to go Wiz 3 ever unless you're going Ele or Rune, even then it wouldn't be worth it.
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>>135991964
They've been cancer in generals for ages. Just ignore them and move on.
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>>135991782
If they nerfed a 45% damage buff with a 60% uptime, you can be sure they're gonna nerf a 50% buff with 100% uptime. It's just too good, especially when looking at future ranks.
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>>135991801
God damn it I thought Mariel sounded familiar, fucking OJ.
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What are missile attacks? Archers are projectile, right?
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>>135979923
Server must be in my backyard.
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>>135992053
Uptime doesn't matter when it last only a few seconds, is fucking boring and stressful as using bless on priest every 45s and that is 45s not 15s which a delay for animation+cast/another spell and movement. They just buffed and is a lot better now.
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>>135992338
any ranged weapon is missile
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>>135979923
>>135992379
server must be on the moon.
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>>135992379
>>135992636
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>>135992906
aay
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>>135988203

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jKAMypuiKYoEzZvsQtulAevjLPiQu5uzxrRtpzUpH_M/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

Have an official IMC poll on iCBT2 too. I won't be the one in Chapel grinding like a retard anon. But trust me there's going to be a billion people there again if it's going back to iCBT1 exp rates.

Anyone who really knows what their doing will go straight to overkill grind spots using their cards for humps into dungeons. But as I've said the servers cant handle an entire continent of Brazil and will crash again.

Basing shit off Korea is a mistake considering International didn't have the same rates and a lot of things. It's not like Korea is paying for early access founders packs now are they?
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>>135991324
>king of Aoe (Wiz3, Ele3, Warlock)
You know what you should do instead of parroting what gooks say?
Learn how to count skill damage output.
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I haven't had a chance to play the game yet but I love the idea of being a beast tamer.

Does Hunter C3 + Falconer C3 work? Do they synchronize well together?
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I'll do my best

best

best

best

best

best

best

best
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>>135993350
yup
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>>135993392
genki = slut
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>>135993350
Falconer C3 doesn't work.
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>>135993558
C2. My bad.
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>>135993306
>overkill
Doesn't do anything anymore.

Please update yourself, the game has changed a lot.
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>>135993350
Yes, you can use both pets if you go down that path and they're both support oriented classes. Falcon is locked at C2 right now since it's an R6 class and we've got 7 ranks though.
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>>135979923
jajajajaja
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>>135993341
Says /tosg/
Topkek
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>>135993306
int main() {
cout << ">"
for (i=0;i<2147483647;i++) cout << "\"";
cout << "iCBT veteran";
for (i=0;i<2147483647;i++) cout << "\"";
return 0;
}
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I bought into early access via steam. Am I supposed to get a code or anything to apply to my account so I can play on launch?
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>>135993787
Just need the DLC.
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I have a bunch of icbt2 beta keys
can I still get something from them?
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How ready are you guys for iTOS?
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>>135994073
no

>>135994128
only 10 more hours
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>>135994128
Very
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>>135986272

Fode sim, vejo você lá, anãozinho.
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>>135994128
How old do you think she is?

Is she a cake?
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>>135994073
Quickly, tell someone it'll unlock the server lists.
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>>135994128
Haven't redownloaded it
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What do you do when you want a class's cute outfit but taking that class would ruin your build?
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>>135994128
550 hours in iCBT2
Level 250 + bunch of alts in kTOS
Still no idea what I'll play in iTOS
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>>135994370
Just take it, can't be that bad.
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>>135994370
You pick Super Novice and take as many classes as you can at circle 1 to hoard outfits.
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>>135994429
can you list all the classes you've played? I have bunch of questions that never seem to get answered
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Does "per attribute level" mean how many skill points put into the skill?
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>>135994429
Just roll, bro
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>>135994280
não quer ser minha healerzinha não, juninho?
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>>135994490
Also known as The LoliPantsu, reddit-san.
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is swordsman>pelt>hop c2>corsair c2>shinobi the best path for shinobi? if so, what skills should i pick up along the way? what should my stat spread look like between str, dex, and con?
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>>135994370
there's no way dipping 1 circle into something is gonna ruin your build in any meanful way
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>>135994370
I based all my builds around outfits without really caring if they would suck or not, i don't see the point otherwise.
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>>135993718
Sure, that makes math incorrect.
Says some retard.
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>>135994631
Don't reply to me again, beta.
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>>135994280
>>135994628
>>>/fora/
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What archer class is the most fun?
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>>135994538
Just ask your questions. I mostly know Swordies and Clerics.
>>
>1 month head-start for 60$

How are you guys enjoying your get-rich-quick scheme game?
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>>135994771
Archer.
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>>135994213
>10 more hours
>Early access starts on the 29th

???
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>>135994804
first of it's $49.99

second of all, who cares if you spend some money support a game you like? i put 260 hours into the beta. pretty sure that justifies a $49.99 purchase.
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we could be playing in 8 hours if the poor fucking shits didn't chimp out
8 HOURS
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>>135994804
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>>135994769
never
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>>135994804
good build
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>>135994981
FUCKING POORFAGS
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>>135994628

Não.
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do you think the IMC team will make some announcement today? the forums are at an uproar about the whole cash shop thing.

i hope they announce the server list and maybe even an official EU/SEA based server.
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>>135994779
Is Paladin any good?
Is Plague Doctor bearable to work towards or is it pure suffering?

Alternatively: Hoplite or Cataphract?
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>>135993350
>falconer c3
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>>135994981
Fucking BRs.
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>>>/wsg/999542
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>>135994973
Good for you but you do realize this will just fuck over the game in general because it will splinter the community right?
>>
/tosg/ I think it's time we part ways

Every time I browse this thread, I am remembered that it will still take 8 days before the early access open, and I can't endure that anymore. I'm sorry, it's me, it's not you. Hopefully we can still be friends.

Goodbye.
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>>135994734
I bet all my shekels that you don't even know how to do the math on a variable environment and just considers yours perfect samples on a closed and controlled scenario. Congrats for being dumb, not able to see beyond horizon and not scientific at all.
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>>135994280
>>135994628
É nois, rapá! Bora fazer um grupinho, anon :3
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>>135995267
That's literally shitposting.
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>>135995296
t. poorfag

>>135995324
F
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>>135995074
???

Please note the following
1. Service Schedule
- Founder's Server Open Date : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 02:00 AM (EST)
- Free to Play Server Open Date : Thursday, April 28, 2016 (EST)
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>>135995336
Não gosto de viado.
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>>135995324
see ya in 20 min
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>>135994370
do what makes you happy, anon
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>>135995385
blessingu
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>>135994280
É nois, meu chapa.

>>135994628
Talvez, parece que sim >>135994573, mas não sou ele. T-Tudo bem?
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>>135995296
It's 10 dollars for early access. If someone can't afford to pay 10 dollars then I don't want them in the community anyway because they are probably BR.
>>
It makes me wonder, if the 1st choice won, would we still have a week delay.
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How long does it take the average player to get to Rank 7, anyway?
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>>135995336
Also i think the Captcha is trying to say something. LOL..
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According to some recent statistics, 20% of /tosg/ posters are BR. How does that make you feel?
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>>135995296
>can't afford $10

good those people can fuck right off
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>>135995581
Tudo, só não quero jogar sozinho.
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>all these br posts

Parem de macaquice, filhos da puta.
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>>135995782
Are you ready?
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>>135995782
Are you ready?
>>
/tosg/ is a BR-free environment.
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>>135995702
>LOL
Kill yourself.
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>>135995782
Are you ready?
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>>135995735
This is not /int/
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>>135995782
Você está pronto?
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>>135995735

Indifferent, let the BRs have 4chan/tosg the sekrit club /tosg/ is decently active anyway.
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>>135995603
>>135995791

>paying 10$ for a corridor theme park grinder
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>>135995904
Será que estamos todos realmente BRs no disfarce?
>>
>I just want to log into a server and see people speaking English
>I just want to easily find a party with the english language
>I just want to be able to communicate with my fellow human during my few entertainment hours in my life
>But no, BR's have to fucking infest TOS and clog up the everything, eveywhere there is BR speak, it's in the global chat, it's in the party chat, it's in the local chat BR BR BR HUE HUE HUE

Why is this so hard
>>
i hate each and everyone one of you faggots and pray to the maker that there will be at least 2 US servers so I can avoid you like the plague.

fun fact: any server that /v/ or /vg/ rolls on dies in a month
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>at least 5 BRs in /tosg/
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>>135986245
>Falconer for AoE on snipe
Didn't that already get nerfed?
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>>135996164
I bet you haven't played ktos
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>>135996164
Most BRs are bilingual, we speak english too.

You won't be able to tell the difference.
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Please tell me the story of your life.
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>>135996223
yea and there's also slavs and redditors here

trump wouldn't let this happen
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>>135996164
I just want to live in a world where BRs have their own MMO servers instead of swarming all over every free NA/International mmo launch.
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>>135996223
>yfw everyone in this thread is BR
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Someone please speed up time.
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>>135996291
Literally only 5% of BRs can speak English fluently.
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>>135996223
Olá, bemvindo ao /tosg/!
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>>135996321
But they do :^)
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>>135996291
In game it's easy to tell who's a BR regardless of English ability. You guys have tells like not using the same tense at different points in a sentence and being awful at the game.
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>>135995581
>>135995336
>>135995904
>>135995876
Cyки, пишитe нa aнглийcкoм.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x47NYUbtYb0
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>tfw at $49.99 we could of had 3 months exclusive content away from the BR plague

It could of been a great 3 months. Stable lag free gameplay with fellow like minded players. Instead we have these $9.99 fags who will flood our servers. Make Klaipedia great again!
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>>135996458
Sorry, I meant most of us BRs that have access to the internet and can afford to spend time playing online games :^)
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>people here don't realize non-burgers are the majority in /tosg/

I appropriate this thread as speak your own language thread.
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>>135996438

Get a hobby, nerd.

Or a girlfriend.
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>>135996648
That's spanish, not even portuguese, and those people are from Mexico.
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>>135996839
>girlfriend.
>>>/facebook/
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>>135996664
>Klaipedia
Poorfag pleb detected, all the good players hang out in _____
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ToS will be international, so will be threads.
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>>135996839
MY HOBBY IS PLAYING MMORPGs
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>>135996563
And most Anglos I see speaking Portuguese (maybe Romance languages in general) fuck up gendered nouns/adjectives and conjugations. That shit happens to anyone who learns a second language in the beginning because the grammar is alien to you.
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>>135996648
me on the left
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>>135996168
I usually don't play together with /vg/ either but during iCBT2, I played with my friends and I learned my lesson that normies just get bored and leave you all alone.

At least tosg will always be there to play with me.
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>>135996854
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>>135997234
Most hardcore players who plan on playing ToS for a long time regardless of anything will be on the Founder's server.

The Founder's server will never die, you will always have people to play with.
>>
>no West Siaulai only day 1
>>
So who else booked off a couple days next week for a ToS binge?
Or is a NEET.
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>>135996168
I'm playing on the most populated server so w/e
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>>135997234

What friends? Your imaginary friends?
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>>135997396
I am a partial NEET. I go to college 2 days a week, but I'm skipping a day so I'll have lots of time to play
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>>135997396
im rich and free m9
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>>135996854
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>>135997528
can you buy me a founder pack then senpai? I'm not rich
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>>135997396
nope, I will log in to save my name and then probably play about 4 hours a day
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>>135996164
>I just want to log into a server and see people speaking [my native language]
>I just want to easily find a party with the [native] language
>I just want to be able to communicate with my fellow human during my few entertainment hours in my life
>But no, [foreigners] have to fucking infest TOS and clog up the everything, eveywhere there is [foreign] speak, it's in the global chat, it's in the party chat, it's in the local chat [foreigners laugh]
Fixed for you, xenophobic bro. Stay mad or grow up.
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>>135995172
>Is Paladin any good?
Paladin got buffed a lot in kTOS. I think it's much better than Monk for physical Cleric, you do nice damage but also have some support. Barrier is essential for ET I heard, Resist Element is also very good. Cleric2, Diev, Paladin is the cookie cutter build. If you go Pardoner go rank 7 you can sell your Barrier too for good money.

>Is Plague Doctor bearable to work towards or is it pure suffering?
Depends on your build. It can be quite suffering if you build only with ground skill like Cleric3 or you depend on Zaibas as your only source of damage, but not totally impossible. If you're taking Priest-Chaplain or even Sadhu than you're not going to run into any problem. The game is easy enough until 220+. Most of the exp will probably come from dungeons and missions so just run them as much as you can. If a full support Pyro Linker2 with 0 INT can get to rank 7, then anyone can do the same.

>Alternatively: Hoplite or Cataphract?
Hoplite gives you Crit rate, +3 aoe ratio and synergise more with other classes compared to Cata. Better for PvE.
Cata gives you the best mobility in the game, and better CCs. Top PvP choice. But some skills don't work while mounted.
>>
for those of you that are accustomed to pvping, would you say that getting c2 corsair is worth it over c1 corsair c1 doppel JUST for increasing iron hook duration?

also, is it confirmed that hidden classes are only allowed one circle?
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How to Musketeer. I want to [Butt Stroke].
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>>135997493
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>>135998008
Nah doppel c2 one shots people in pvp
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>>135997913
I don't give a fuck about where they're from, I care that they speak ENGLISH

You can be the most BR piece of shit, but as long as you're speaking english I don't give a fuck
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>>135997969
how reliable is conversion? is it enough to carry you?
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>>135998068
What exactly do you want to know and why would you get that skill?
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>>135997969
Diev and Cleric 2? Huh. What use is the statue carving / taking cleric to 2 to a Paladin?
I would have thought the priest buffs would have been more useful, unless you have a dedicated priest with you.
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>>135998458
You're the slut here, lusting for some healer cock

>p-please show me your Divine Might
>>
Should I be Fencer? I heard a lot of shit about it but I like the costume and rapier weapon... And how do I use it properly if I decide to use it? Tank?
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>>135998858
dps
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>>135998825
Carve is a multihitting skill that hits flying enemies and the reduced CD statue is good even with just one rank in Diev.

People don't like to go Priest 3 Paladin because at that point you might as well just go Chaplain and the scaling priest buffs scale with spirit.
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>>135998565
Mostly because of the name. It's hilarious because I have the same sense of humor as a five year old.

But in a more serious tone: How do you build them in terms of prior classes? Muskets appeal to me more than bows.
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>>135998825
priest buffs would be worthless cause you can buy stronger versions from scrolls since you'd only be going 2 circles as you want to pick paladin asap at rank 4

carve is a multihit, good with str, and gives you access to pierce which is otherwise impossible for you, statues are just great utility for less cd on smite and conviction that bring most of your dps
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>>135997969
>Cleric 2, DiveKirby, Paladin
>Beatdown cleric

Why cleric 2? Divine Might looks awful. Isn't going 2 circles of priest better for Blessing + Sacrament?
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If I become a fletcher and want to sell my arrows, does leveling up the skill affect how strong the arrow is when someone else uses it?
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>>135998825
>you can literally buy priest buffs

You can't make this shit up.
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>>135999260
nice build
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>>135998361
>is it enough to carry you?
It's fairly memetic. It only needs one point though and there's no reason to not take it.
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>>135999260
A lot changed from early development, Fletcher arrows only work with Fletcher skills and only serve as a reagent so no.

Archers don't have a real crafting class currently.
>>
is there a marry system in this game?
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>>135998361
Smite is the skill that will carry you. I've only seen some videos on Smite. It used to not work properly in iCBT2 but looks fine now I think?

>>135998825
You can take Priest1 for Monstrance, Blessing and Resurrection if you want. More than C1 is not worth it.
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>>135999491
yes, any kiss puts you into permanent marriage
>>
is it worth it to go druid even if I'm STR specced?
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>>135999496
*some Conversion videos.
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>>135999496
it worked in icbt2

it just got buffed with more damage, less cooldown and hits 3 times if they are under the conviction debuff
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>>135999731
Conversion I meant. Typo.
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>>135999259
you're forced to get 1 cleric, remember
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>>135997001

Your hobby has been dead for years and ToS isn't going to save it, find a new one.

Maybe VR will bring it back if you're lucky when Blizzard releases WoW Art Online in 5 years or so.
>>
>>135999201
It's a good class on its own tbf. Musketeer has no AoE by himself, so if you plan to deal with packs of mobs, you either get expensive items that add AoE attack ratio or get falconer, which is a quite good choice on its own. Ranger is also a good choice because not only it gets an AoE with Falconer, but it also increases the damage of your skills. If you want to pvp scout and maybe hunter for the CCs are great choices. It's really hard to go wrng with muskie desu
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>>135999909
fuck u buddy

yeah that one was super broken, it's still kinda shitty even when working so i won't waste points into it t b h
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>>135999731
wait I got confused now, what hits 3 times under what debuff?

smite hits three times under conviction debuff? smite hits three times if the enemy is under conversion debuff? conversion hits 3 times under conviction debuff?
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>>135999291
True, but free two-circle ones versus having to constantly buy scrolls? I dunno I'm just basing all this off of what I did in cbt2, since I had fun with blessing/sacrament and hammering stuff to death.
>>135999496
Hmm, I see... Is having to re-carve statues as you move around areas a pain, or barely noticeable? I found the relatively short duration of blessing to be annoying enough.
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>>135999260
>If I become a fletcher and want to sell my arrows
>>
I know this game in terms of classes are very subjective.

But is there a tier list of classes or cookie cutter builds that are available?

IE: Top tier solo classes, Top tier healers, top tier tanks...etc.?
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>>135999972
Why are you forced to get a second circle of cleric?

Pardon me if I'm retarded
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>>136000362
>top tier healer
cleric3priest3PD
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>>135996925

Yeah I'm sorry for triggering your sensitivities.

Not.
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>>136000289
smite hits 3 times if the enemy is under the conviction debuff
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>>135999976
No it hasn't you dumbfuck. It's only been dead since 2011. RIP AION
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>>136000478
Pardoned
>>
is this anything like RO?
can I make a full support priest or something?
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>>136000362
Top tier masochist: Sword Pelt3 Squire3
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>>136000525
No honestly kill yourself cringelord.
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>>136000679
if you're a faggot, yes
>>
r8


http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/toxcsf5rza/
>>
Do we have a poll for classes?
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>>136000869
haha

>>136000891
yes
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>>136000869
good build
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>>136000869
shit/10
>>
Can someone make a tier list?
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>>136000869
10/10 would steal
>>
is this anything like Ragnarok Online?
can you make a full support class and still have fun?
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>>136001103
send ;)
>>
Is this Ragnarok Online?
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>>136000478
I said 1 cleric you double nigger

ONE

(1)

UNO

it's your starting circle
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>>136001103
Good build.

>>136001154
RO Successor.

And by successor I mean that RO is always one rank above it lmao TOSKEKS on damage control tbqh
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>>136000869
WOAH!

DIDNT EVEN THINK THAT WAS POSSIBLE
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>>136001154
maybe

>>136001204
yes
>>
Is this online?
>>
>>136001204
No, it's offline.

>>136001303
No, it's Ragnarok.
>>
Can anyone post iToS datamined changes?
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>>136001103
http://m.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=9360

For PvE

Pic relate for PvP
>>
How do I into paladin skill points?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4137bbba.152535.152535.152535.1f2f3341516575.15223583

Is this right? Is TU secretly better than it seems? Does RE deserve more? I just don't know what's most important.
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>>136001482
nice build
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>>135987354
stay safe poverty ghost
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>>136001219
...But you said two circles.

> Cleric2, Diev, Paladin is the cookie cutter build.
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>>136001103
Gods of Olympus Tier
AOE deeps w/ Linker
Support w/ Linker+Chrono
Cryomancer
memedoctore

Still Relevant Tier
Dragoon
Druid
Paladin
Doppelnazi
Templar

Could've Done Better Tier
Monk
All Summoners

Reddit Tier
Fencer
most archer builds

Retard tier
any builds with a pet
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/t7adwmq9i4/

Please rate my build thank you.
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>>136001613
>not taking Deprotected Zone over Cure
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>>135986432
I'm also doing that, the plan is to buff self and hit shit.

I'll be leveling with a swordie friend though, so that always helps.
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>>136001505
>http://m.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=9360

Wtf I don't read moonspeak
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>>136001769
Sorc with templeshooter is pretty good thou.
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>>136001505
>chink propaganda
koreans are shit at mmos, the only thing they know how to do is grind. don't bother with anything they say regarding anything else
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I can't decide whether I want to play deiv3+memedoctor or chaplain+memedoctor. Suffering.
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>>136001613
More into Resist Elements. Less into Restoration.
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>>136001817
b-but I heard deprot zone was bad

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4137bbba.15213544.152535.152535.1f2f3341516575.15223583

this then?
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>>136001941
Dude just look at the pictures. It has the class names faggot, read down the list. Obviously at the top is tier 1.
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>>136001812
literally shit fuck off yugi
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>>136001613
Oy vey, someone else is going Paladin C3 + Pardoner?
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>>136001812
rated
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>>136001505
>2 swordsmen out of top 50
swordsman confirmed for shit tier
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>>136002070
Just put one point in deprotected zone for easier leveling.
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>>136002097
Consider yourself.. undercut

by an excessive amount
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>>136002169
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>>136001505
When will the Cleric blight be removed?
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>playing healer
>ever
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>>136002235
>>136002069
>>136001817

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4137bbba.15213544.152535.152535.1f253e516575.15223583

This good? Took a lot out of resto for RE, seems RE uses the points more efficiently though so maybe..

Is TU worth one point out of RE?
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>>135999259
Divine Might has some use especially with skills that scale well like C3 skills of some class. DM'd Bloodletting is a way to get 100% uptime, DM'd Ein Sof gives you 20% more HP and 3 seconds more uptime. Plenty other use if you're creative enough. Fade is underrated. C2 Cleric also unlocks Safety Zone +20 block attribute. And of course 5 more heal squares gives STR Pally some healing capacity. You also heal more with Restoration aura iirc so that's a good thing.
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>>136002460
Never. Healers are always OP in PvP in any MMO if they have damage spells with the heals
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>>136002662
Since you're picking at least a point both anyway, why don't you test them yourself and invest in the one you think is the best?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/z7krvdmp1w/

Is Full tank Peltasta C3 + Squire C3 viable assuming I'll have a party 100% of the time?
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Rate my Puremancer build, please. no runeshitter, please. Someone will roll that one meme build for our group already.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dwfpvixkad/

I really need some help on warlock, dunno whick one is better to max, Dark Theurge or Invocation. I've heard that we can create dark spirits from the ice wall tiles.
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>>135996164
>I just want to log into a server and see people speaking Korean
>I just want to easily find a party with the Korean language
>I just want to be able to communicate with my fellow human during my few entertainment hours in my life
>But no, white piggu have to fucking infest TOS and clog up the everything, eveywhere there is meme speak, it's in the global chat, it's in the party chat, it's in the local chat LEL A CUTE NO KISSING L-LEWD
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>>136002269
OY GEVALT
You nudnik will gornicht part me with ze shekels.
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>>136002280
P V P L O L
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>>136002943
>gust
>ice bolt 5
Are you trying, nigger?
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>>136002994
do english speakers flood shout in ktos?

In my experience when an english community develops in a korean or japanese game they keep to themselves and only talk amongst themselves
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>>136002976
Full Support.
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>>136003036
Just curious what are your second and third circles?
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>>136003106

>ice bolt
Faster cast time, my man. Ice bolt is our most reliable freeze, and we can burst drop it 3 times with the overheat if it's really necessary. Level 1 takes years to complete the bar and can be canceled easily by any hit, maybe we can reach a sweety spot...

>gust

1 point wonder, multi hit, good to defrost and decent pushback.
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>>136002712
huh restoration is garbage afaik, you just put 1 point for the SP regen
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>>136003323
No, but there was a time where BRs did it
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What is an attribute level?
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>>136002976
Eu também. Fode não telefônica e suas rotas de merda.

Eu ia full support, não sei se healer ou cc, mas só se os amiguinhosrsrs forem também. Se não vou fazer alguma coisa que não sugue tanto para solar.
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>>136003739
Mini skill levels for a skill that you have to buy that take long periods of time to train.
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>>136003723
Mata-te, mas não no comboio da manhã
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>>136003739
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>>136003687
It's a hidden interaction with Heal and Mass Heal. More healing if you have the Restoration buff. That's what people say anyways.
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>>136003723
Safada.
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NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I DON'T UNDERSTAND PORTUGUESE
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Fucking retards don't know when to stop
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Never played a swordsman class, but what are the must have Hoplite skills?
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Hi I'm a retard who hasn't played in any of the betas. I'm trying to figure out which class I want to play but holy shit all the difference classes and circles in each is terrifying to me. I read the pastebin, and I see build planners and shit, but I can't actually figure out what the theme/style of any class is beyond the obvious , and what is actually effective and what isnt. Is there a high level guide that just says what each class does and whether its total garbage or not?
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>>136004176
Stabbing pierce finestra
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>>136003070
>>136003723
>>136004141
Se Matemlol.
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>>136003908
Oh that'd be great, still 1 point should be enough then, unless more ranks increases the bonus effect.
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>>136004176
Long Stride, Spear Lunge, Pierce, Syncho Thrusting. Don't put points into Stabbing, Finestra or Spear Throw.
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>>136004309
Nice google translate la'
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>>136004309
Google translate.
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>>136003491
2 is enough for ice bolt.
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>>136004424
>spear throw
I really don't get this Memel
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what city in brazil is portugul
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Which server will probably have less BRs after one month?

I get the feeling that all the underage fags and BRs will be swamping the new server since they won't feel great about everyone else having a headstart on the founder's server's already.

but at the same time I don't want to be on a dead server.
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>>136003348
Cleric on R2, still undecided between Dirby (for Carve mostly), or Krivis (for more utility and scrolls).
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>>136003713
Yeah, thats my point. Comparing brs who come in and flood shout to english speakers who play ktos is completely different
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>>136004253
>>136004424
Getting some conflicting info
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Which is better for PVE:
Sword1Pelt1Hop3Doppel1Dragoon
or
Sword1Pelt1Hop1Cata3Dragoon?
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>>136004557
But I'm already doing that.
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>>136004557
Yes, make lovely halfus for future generations please
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>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/nanarex-child-archer-to-be-faces-her-bullies-555-words/153118
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>posting from my laptop again

Feels good man.
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>>136004705
someone told me br gets better latency to east coast than west coast, so probably the west coast founder server is best bet

Then again the kind of BR that can make this sort of logical decision probably arent the BR we are trying to avoid...
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>>136004778
>which one is better for PvE, this staple pve build or this staple PvP build?
The former.
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>>136004903
fuck off retard
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>>136004557
immigration crisis, nobody wants us unless we're highly educated. and most universities here are shit anyway
I happen to be that 0.1% and I'm moving to Canada soon, not a weaboo
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>>136004903
Do some more vocaroos!
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>>136004778
the former
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peltC1->barbC3->fencer

yay or nay?
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>>136004590
lrn2geography, Portugal is not a BR city, it's a colony.
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>>136004848
Instantly dropped without even reading after my gaze went onto "I farted".
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>>136004903
Good, now come back and make guild events
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>>136005079
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can you report BR fuckers for not speaking in english?
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>>136005079
Yay. Not like you have much choice now.
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>>136004903
>FPS 18
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>>136004716
Hmm, you think the second cleric circle is superior to having both dervkirby and krivis like I did?

What's the porpoise? Divine might/safety wall?
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How many points in daino are needed?
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>>136005017
I wasn't the one making vocaroos yesterday.

Also, what the hell happened to the thread? It started so well with Nyaruko-posting but halfway down the BRs took over.

Are we rounding them up so we can purge them all at once?
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>>136004919
>west coast founder server is best bet
well fuck, if founder's server is west coast then I'm waiting for the f2p launch too.
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>>136005281
Hehe, that's my secret weapon against you, goy.
Level 6 Barrier scrolls
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amazing this general is dead before the game arrives
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>>136005287
5 is enough if you don't have retard Linker2.
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>>136005229
>50 people right next to each other
>probably a screenshot of the lad recording the icbt2 end's video
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>>136005287
0 unless you want to Simony it.
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Lolipa can you login on ktos?
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make sure to give guild name suggestions

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=853254260
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>>136005348
There's only east coast servers currently.
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>>136005348
As far as i know all servers are on east, but someone did 'datamining' and claimed that theres a west, east, and europe one.

That 'datamining' was probably just 'mememining', but assuming its true, west would probably have fewer BR than east.

Its really not a big deal because the pings not that bad either way, but people are drawn to lower ping all else being equal.

West coast might be kind of bad for people in europe though.
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>>136005596
they all just reported you
br>you
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>>136005457
Still installing drivers and shit, and then I'll have to download kTOS.

It'll be a while, but it's the first thing I'll download.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111288d.1a3a4a6a85.153545.1a2a3a.354555

pls r8 :^)
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>>136005596
An undisclosed action has been taken.
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>>136005596
Wow you actually got banned for that what the fuck? I didn't even think /vg/ had mods, but apparently they're fucking terrible.
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How are paladins built after the latest changes? Do people still use priest C2 or dievderp? Also what after? Chap?
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Hi.
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>>136005596
You're retarded

>>136005705
Why not hoplita instead of highlander?
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>>136005770
Are you a nigger?
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>>136005705
rated
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>>136005705
whoops wrong image
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>>136005752
Mods are global. Not sure if /vg/ has dedicated janitors, though.

I've been banned for posting visible nipples in /aa2g/. This board needs better rules.
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>>136005439
Why 0? I thought it was basically essential.
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>This amount of shitposting

Jesus.
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>>136005527
Uymmy DIC
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>>136005993
It's better than reddit asking retarded questions over and over.
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>>136005705
Hop2 instead of Corsair so you can Cross Guard + Spear Lunge + Clone Kunai.
Ez boss melt.
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>>136005602
>west would probably have fewer BR than east.
>West coast might be kind of bad for people in europe though.
West coast servers sounds like it'd be dead, especially if west coast servers won't even be available from the start just like DFO.
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>>136005963
I knew that but I figured none of them bothered with /vg/.
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Which classes are /pure/
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>>136005963
I thought some mods were board-specific, too?
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>>136005965
The current meme is that scrollable skills are useless.
It's probably true for Daino.
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>>136006061
t. Reddit
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>>136002994
English players are educated citizen, expect reddit. see pso2 and ddo english community
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>>136006130
Plague Doctors, they literally carry purifiers with them
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>>136004903
ayo, blogipa, can you provide feedback on these rode builds?
>>135982154
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>>136006264
Good builds.
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>>136006192
It's made abundantly clear during recruitments that mods are global.
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Is there any demand for cure 15 scrolls or should I stay the course of Krivis 3 Pard 3 for Daino and Aukuras scrolls?
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>>136006343
Dank you.
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>>136006320
Man, why are you such a dumb shitter in all honesty? Aren't you ashamed?
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>>136006113
Well, im operating under the assumption that there will be an east and west to start with.

And when i say operating under the assumption, i mean im making a suggestion from that point of view, im actually more convinced that all servers will just be east coast anyway and it wont matter, but if it does, then the west founders might be better than east, unless that would mess up europe more.

As a founders server it will still be populated going forward, and all the big bully guilds probably go east to bully, and we could bully west by ourselves and become the best!
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>>136006385
>Krivis 3 Pard 3
Good build.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/bbsfzwjixb/

Cata dragoon build.
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>>136000024
What about Sapper traps?
One of my friends was suggesting those with Musketeer.
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So I haven't really checked up on this game since iCBT ended. Are there still leveling issues like being stuck in the demon prison for 40 levels and saving up your exp cards?
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>>136006201
It could be true if people actually bother buying Daino scrolls. Right now they just depend on Clerics to level Daino or to buy them. That's 3k+ silver for a 3 minutes buff. Pretty hefty amount.
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>>136006556
Good build.
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>>136006556
10/10 would steal
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>>136006385
You could also go Cleric 2 Krivis 2 Pardoner 2 _____ for level 10 scrolls.
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>>136006623
only if you are a bad
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>all Squirejews and Alchemjews making Pardoner now.
Worry.jpg

I swear I'm gonna be mad if we don't get cheap so pots.
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>>136005383
Is... is that a verified 'thing' in ktos?

I hate you for making me torn about the build I was just happy with.
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>mods deleting posts in portuguese ;-;
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Question. If I have Krivis C1, learn the duration attribute for Daino, and use Daino 15 scroll, will attribute kick in?
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>>136006774
I can't stand the thought of being unable to make maxed out scrolls and wanted to have the Indulgentia+Oblation attribute available to use, was gonna try having Zaibas+Indulgentia as at least some damage options and hopefully Indulgentia's large number of targets will make it ok in Guild Wars.
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mods = gods
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WHO IS DELETING ALL THEIR POSTS
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>>136006902
Not all. Plenty of BRs will still go alchemist thinking it's their ticket to finally having a shekel.

/tosg/ isn't exactly a large part of the community
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>>136006965
If you use it yourself might be able to get the duration attribute but not other people.
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>>135979548
So will closed beta people get an exclusive hat or something? Only Korea's getting armbands?
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>wall being built
based
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>>135986110
cry more
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>>136005383
>Level 6 Barrier
How do you overlevel scrolls?
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>>136006903
Now now, goy, don't worry.
I believe there will be two camps:
>the ones who will buy Level 5 scrolls to save money on small duration increase
>the ones who will go for Level 6 (or even 7 in the future) for the max uptime.
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>>136006556
Why would you go cata and then not take doom spike? Is this supposed to be some really bad PvP only build?
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what kind of build is devproof? something simple that fits in with the devs vision, is obviously supposed to work well together, and not in danger of being nerfed and left useless like build of kings?
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>>136007178
Doesn't Divine Might work that way? There is always the monster gem.
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>>136007303
Doom spike is terrible
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>>136007303
thanks just notice that.
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>>136007178
himitsu
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>>136005383
I thought Barrier has a hard cap of 5?
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>>136007180
>your face when trying to fool me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU

Now I'm unhappy either way, god damn you.
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>>136007382
oh I see, everyone that posts a build is a reddit spy so we have to say that it's good no matter what, gotcha
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>>136007352
Oh, right. Probably. I don't really know how Simony works actually.
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Is cannoneer good for pve? It looks pretty fun.
I was thinking something like archer3 scout1 fletcher2 cannoneer1
Thoughts?
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>>136006584
punji is worthless besides the gimmick, Claymore is shit for that. You can do some shenaningans with Stockades and full draw/knockback in general, and while that's fun, the damage itself gets overshadowed by your other skills.

Broom does some good chip damage that complements your DPS. Collar is only good at level 10 and Spike Shooter at level 5, while both do some nice burst, they have fundamental flaws that make them unreliable.

Sapper offers AoE, but I believe Wugushi and Ranger overall do a better job at that.

tl;dr: There are better classes to pick, but if you find Sapper fun, why the hell not? Wouldn't recommend for >pvp builds though, scout is too good to ignore and even hunter could be nice vs other archers, falconer is also great.
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>>136007337
a healer
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Is carve required for a dievdirby? Are you actually forced to farm plant monsters for wood?
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>>136007592
A Priest specifically. Plague Doctor also seems to be immune to any nerf even with all the complains.
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What if all the Pardoners from /tosg/ get a consensus about the price of scrolls so they can start fixing the market min-max price?
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>>136004903
Lolipantsu, can you fucking log in?
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>>136007703
you buy them from the npc
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>>136007497
Yes
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>>136007703
you can buy them

>>136007749
>2 people
nice
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>>136007538
Yes senpai. Just play what you think would be fun tbb
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>>136007494
Don't worry, my great ally, we can work together and achieve maximum profit, creating a company and holding monopoly over Barrier scrolls.
Level 1? Level 5? Level 6? Variety is illusion, silly goyim are supporting the same people!
Are you NA or EU?
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>>136007749
I'm making a Vendor Pardoner probably. Go and sell your Barriers I'm most going to sell Daino5 and Dispellers.
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>>136007547
I see...
I don't really plan to PvP at all, so any builds I go for would be PvE based. I do like the idea of throwing Scout and Falconer in there somewhere, if only for the outfits (and the nice utility skills), so I guess what else I mix in would be mostly up in the air.
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For anyone still in ktos, please buy my grand cross recipe in the market. Please and thank you
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>>136008065
You do YOU bro, just have fun with the game. Otherwise you'll quit or get bored.

Pick classes that you think will be fun, at the end of the day all that matters is that you enjoyed yourself dude
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>>136007916
NA, I'm still trying to decide between my two jew builds though, might go priest3/pard2/plague buff vendor
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>>136008191
Oh, I'm one of those people who has fun planning out stuff beforehand rather than just winging it and ending up disappointed.
So for me to do me I'd probably grab the opinions of more experienced people, then bash my own tastes in over top somehow.
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>>136008407
Well, I'm EU, so depending on how IMC handles our server, we might someday share our shekel stories, not as enemies, but as friends, goy!
If not, maybe consider going Paladin 2/Pardoner 2, for level 10/12 Restoration and Turn Undead scrolls, ja?
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>>136008065
This desu

>>136008191
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>>135981254
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Is there a significant difference between archer and ranger? They seem very similar to me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
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>>136008421
As I've said, musketeer alone is quite good by itself. Falconer adds a lot to it, and so does scout. Why don't you try something out with the skill planner an then post it here?
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>>136008858
Good video.
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Where's the cuteposting guild?
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>>136008827
nice build dude
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>>136008827
a ranger protects trees
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>>136008959
BakaDesuSempai.
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>>136008959
No guild. Cuteposters are all dead.
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>>136007780
It'll be hours before I can.
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>>136007749
You mean a collusion? That's not feasible for a bunch of reasons, see Econ 101

>The number of firms (read: new pardoners): As the number of firms in an industry increases, it is more difficult to successfully organize, collude and communicate.
>Cheating: There is considerable incentive to cheat on collusion agreements; although lowering prices might trigger price wars, in the short term the defecting firm may gain considerably. This phenomenon is frequently referred to as "chiseling".
>Potential entry: New firms (pardoners) may enter the industry, establishing a new baseline price and eliminating collusion
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>>135989080
can you screenshot it? i don't want to register to steamspy.
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>>136009397
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Are fencers any good?
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Made a tab for my fellow Pariddish players.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit#gid=2001706476
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>>136009630
yes
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>>136009630
Yes, pelt2,rode2 is pretty good.
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>>135990107
the 1 rank in sorc seems wasted,
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r8
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ovlig118gd/
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>>136004309

>google translate tools

Kek, burguer.
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>>136009864
pretty solid
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is it true that you can play an ASSFAGGOTS style minigame in this shit game
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>>136009630
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>>136008615
Do people actually buy turn undead scrolls? Seems like an odd purchase
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>>136009864
Good build.
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>>136007026

Trump.
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>>136009864
Incineration/10 pretty good
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>>136008858
NICE VIDEO WOW
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>>136009860
Why? Summon seems to be doing some pretty good damage. It would be pretty good if anyone can rate it who's experienced with high level content. Is his damage good?
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>no dual wield pistol class
>no gunkata
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>>136009864
could use more aoe, consider subbing something out for barb
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>>136008858
>gangnam style was 3 years ago
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Should we put "you can just not spend all skill points in your first circle, dumbass" in the OP again? Newfags keep forgetting.
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best doppel build here prove me wrong
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11226699.1123354551.1124354a7585.559aa5ba.1321315a657585
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>>136010435
Good post.
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>>136010435
While we're at OP improvements, delete kToS timers from it. >>135979548
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>>136010558
wow awesome build dude i'm impressed
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>>136010558
no, you're right
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>>136010435
What do you mean by this?
t. newfag
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>>136010586
Excuse me, some people are actually playing kTOS instead of shitting this place up.
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somebody should inform pedopanther than the ktos meme is over
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>>136010558
Good build.
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>>136010558
How much additional damage does zucken do on shocked targets? I see some one KToS, but no videos at all
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>>136010558
>playing a nazi class
gross
the only pure, untainted class to play as in the swordsman tree is Dragoon
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When are we getting more silly hats?
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Is Squire kill?
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>people don't want to discuss builds in fear of "reddit spies" and prefer to shitpost

Nice thread
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>>136011025
>16th~17th century germans were nazis
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Would I need to put points into SPR if I'm playing a fletcher/cannoneer since they have low/0 second cooldowns and would probably run out of SP fast?
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>>136010762
Okay then, go check it. See what I did two days ago, and nobody even came here and complained yet.
Before doing that, it was last edited 3 days ago, some guy added himself to the list, and prior to that, no edits for a whole month. It's dead, time to let it go.
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>>136011038
oh boy pope helmet looks rad
but I personally want this one
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New bread soon, fellow swordies.
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>>136010762
He said it because the doc is abandoned and broken, not to chase away ktos players

Maybe someone can make a new one for it
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>>136011307
No, you just need to buy my sp potions. For first time ill cut the price for 30% for you but after you become addicted you'll be my slave.
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>>136011259
Nice build
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>>136011259
Welcome to a week and a half ago, it's only going to get much worse before it even has a chance to get better.
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If people don't make a thread in a timely fashion, it's going to be goat edition v3
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>>136011038
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>>136011441
Not really. If people want it back, then I can enable it back on.
But I believe it's dead, and should be removed, or moved to pastebin.
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Azebu, do ou have a thing for Lithuanians? That's weird coming from a Grzegorz
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>>136011259
A lot of this thread is BRs with awful English, so having a simple meme post like "Good build" they can use lets them disguise themselves as shitposters. "Reddit spies" are a scapegoat, the real threat is BR spies operating under the modus operandi of memers.
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>>136011340
>helmet

shut up idiot
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How 2 dragoon?
>sword
>pelt

Ok, no memeliner anymore, so pelt 1 because swash is always useful

>hope 2 for finestra 10? + cata 2
or
>hope 1 + cata 3 into dragoon?
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>>136011635
There is some kind of world boss forum in inven anyway
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>>136011640
I love them, could suck their dicks all day long.
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i like the idea of the centurion but do they actually work well in this game?
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>>136011760
Second option, rush and 100% uptime trot just sound too good
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>>136011760
cata is boring and shit, take hop3 finestra is amazing and spear throw is solid, then doppel dragoon as per usual
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>>136011892
Okay who's telling him the bad news?
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>>136011038
Dat #22 has potential to look fucking awesome on a Reiter.
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>>136012012
>>136011923

I will consider these options, cata is fun because of FAST and seems more pvp oriented, but doppel dragoon for spin to win? that's good too.
>>
>Pavise
>Caltrops
>Barrier Scroll
Is the Fortress dream back? Savioring the guild towers with Barrier of Love?
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>>136011748
why are you so mean
we're all friends here
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>>136012049

i had a feeling they were a gimmick class
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Koreans are laughing at necro, saying that he's fucking dead. No wonder no one on ktos plays necro except for h.Bingo
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>>136011632
wow that's a cute image, i like it!
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>>136012725
Nah, they're great, but...
Check this example Centurion C2 build.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1cc.1a213145a1618195
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Does the archers swift step increase run speed or just walk speed while shooting?
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>>136011760
Hop2/Cata2 is pure shit. Just don't, trust me.
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>>136013140
good build
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>>136013171
Hop2/Cata2 is good. Just do it. Don't trust him, trust me.
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>>136013463
Fuck off BR faggot.
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>>136013140
movement speed
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>>136013140
WALK SPEED WHILE SHOOTING

NEXT
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>>136011718
>t. redditor
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>>136013563
bad build
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>>136011718
I think people are just tired of newfags coming in and posting 400 builds every thread
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Pretty excited for this game despite never having played RO before. Was never able to hop onto an MMO when it first came out, so gonna hop on this when the English version comes.

Is there somewhere that lists a bunch of general info, like how the leveling system works, what classes are good and what's garbage, etc?
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>>136011718
>t. Autentist the Autist
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>>136013645
>>136013658
Which one is it?
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what if i wizard3-linker1-sorc3

and then ranks 8-10 went elementalist3? would that give optimal sustained dps?
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>>136014050
WALK SPEED WHILE MOVING

OTHER GUY IS LE EPIC MEME TROLLING YOU
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>>136014074
I wouldn't make a build based on future ranks..lots of things will change
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1. Does the holy trinity apply to this game? IE will tanks be necessary?
2. Can you go down say the archer tree, then go back down say a wizard or cleric tree later, or is the build basically set in stone?
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>>136014243
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>>136014194
I MEAN WALK SPEED WHILE SHOOTING

FUCK
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>>136014050
walking speed while shooting

the buff is basically for the crit bonus at circle2, its of little use otherwise if you are skill spamming things that dont let you walk while using them
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>>136014243
1.somewhat
2.set in stone
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>>136013885
What the fuck else are you going to talk about? The game is class building and killing things and we've got a week till ITOS servers open. If you don't want to talk about the game why are you even coming to the general?
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Now that the gooks are filthy rich, how soon can we expect next ranks?
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>>136014243
at character creation you select one of the 4 branches and that's set in stone

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/

here baka

and no, trinity is not necessary
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>>136014414
>>136014486

All right, so I noticed that some of the classes lead into crafter type classes, so there are some builds that revolve mainly around crafting and almost never fighting?
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>>136014429
is it talking about the game repeating the same answers over and over?
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>>136014603
Nope.
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>>136014216
considering we wont get any more 'powerful' classess but only additionall hidden classess through the ranks 2-8, i feel like we kind of have a grip on what sort of base line power all future classes will have, and finding combinations of already released classess that would be solid togeather doesnt seem like a bad move, because the alternative is just to try and ignore the fact that you could be screwing yourself down the line.

that we have 7 out of 10 total ranks released now, this makes me feel like a solid 7 rank build, leaves space open to take one more class to circle3 in the future, and so the goal of every build today should be to create a solid 7 rank build, and allow for the maxing of one complementary class.

An example could be something like..

wizard1-cryo3-chrono3 now, and then kino1 at rank 8, and wizard 2 and 3 at 9 and 10

Alternatively you could go with something like the standard memementalist build now, and then just add on thaum or chrono 3 with ranks 8-10.

The ideal build then will be not only optimal as is currently, but will have solid future plans for options it can take down the line.
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>>136014603
Yes
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>>136014603
All builds will have to fight to level since crafting items doesn't get you xp, but Squire, Pardoner, and Alchemist are the classes that sell consumables and services to other classes. They are pretty bad at fighting since they have to use skill points on those crafting skills but they can still use their skills from previous circles.
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>>136014243

Tanks don't exist, you have a class that can provoke nearby enemies and can guard (but not very effectively)
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>>136011248
>>136011248
>>136011248
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>>136015193

wat
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>>136015193

>>>135998364
>>>135998364
>>>135998364
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Can someone post/link the image with all the class outfits?
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>>136014243
I would seriously pay to be able to level up multiple classes on the same character and have my class change in ONLY in towns to keep it fair.
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>>136015332
reddit spy?
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>>136015475
The fuck? I'm pretty sure it was posted in this thread but I don't feel like scrolling through 800 replies.
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New thread.

>>136015571
>>136015571
>>136015571
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>>136014478
If r8 or more hidden classes dont start showing up in the next few months then I wouldn't give the game more than half a year before it's closed/abandoned.
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>>136015579
>I don't feel like scrolling through 800 replies
Confirmed reddit spy
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>>136015332
>>136015475
>>136015579
Nevermind.

>>135986684

>>136015687
No you.
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>>136015402
I don't know what's with mmo players that always want features that aren't implemented or simply don't exist

I never see this in other genres, like going into the street fighter thread and saying that you would pay if the game allowed you to change the base moves from ryu, or into a racing game and wanting the characters to come out of the cars and fight each other when they crash.

This game has easily among the top 5 most robust class builders out there in the genre's history, and people still come and complain that it ain't enough for them.
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>>135987354
Stay safe poverty ghost
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