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> News
- Update 1.1.5 balance patch notes: http://smashboards.com/threads/433162/

> Resources and Guides
http://pastebin.com/TD8zsDJ1

Last thread: >>135795056
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Jigglypuff is the cutest Smash Brother.
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Threadly reminder to come check out this week's Items Tournament.

http://challonge.com/Items02
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>Gonzalo Barrios–Verified account@TSMZeRo


>I just noticed every single character I play has been nerfed in one way or the other. Fox Falcon Diddy Sheik Cloud

>Gotta play Rosa now?


Ayy lmao
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Wow...tenacious scrubs

I was playing for glory 1v1 on 3Ds (stupid, I know) and I have run into not one, but TWO people who were utterly hopeless players. I reked them every game, but they kept coming back. The first one, used Greninja only, and loved to spam dodge. I must have gone 25+ rounds with him, winning every time. I taunted every chance I got, and did the crouch spam to make him angry (disclaimer: not something I usualy do. This guy was THAT bad..and irritating.) But he just came back, using the same character over and over. I only died if I mistimed my recovery (I was using Corrin) but mostly, I was killing him without getting KOed myself. Eventualy, he left. I think his username was "joe"?

Then, the next day, I ran a real rage inducer: a noob who only knew how to spam. Ugh. This guy was a textbook spammer. He changed characters every battle, (mostly every battle, he stuck with a few character, sometimes) I was, again, reking him every battle, but he kept playing again. I must have fought him 30+ times, and he used every counter/reflecter/spam charater in the cast. From famous spamers like Link and Dark Pit to counter charaters like Little Mac and Lucario, also Zelda, Samus, Kirby, Robin, Mario, the list goes on. Ugh. Eventualy, he settled on Lucario for his Aura mechanic, Aura ball spam and counter...and thats is what he used. I beat him over and over, until eventually, I got careless, and he beat me. (He left right after, of course.) His user name was "pIpe"

So, yeah. I've fought my share of noobs, but these two get some kudos for coming back again and again. Even after I started being a jerk to them. (Although, I would gladly strangle the second one. Lol.)

Good grief.
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Dont forget the unofficial official /ssbg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0rCibnHXzHQoLfnZ
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>>135920262
AHAHAHAHA
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>Main Ike
>Cloud exists

Should I even bother?
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>>135920262
There's somethig just so satisfying about seeing people TOTALLY MYSTIFIED that the characters they deliberately chose for being overpowered were negatively impacted by balance patches.
>How could this happen??
>Sakurai must be trying to hurt me specifically!
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Post Ganondorf.
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>>135920859
>Posting worst character
Even Zelda was buffed to be better than you.
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>>135920859
I'd rather not, it attracts unpleasant people. Nothing wrong with the character but literally every person in /ssbg/ who loves him is just a very low quality person with low quality posts.
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>>135920962

>Zelda cucks actually believe this
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>>135920859
>le disrespect man
fuck off with this
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>>135921008
Chito and Dorf aren't shitposters though.
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>>135920262
Fox got nerfed?
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>>135920859
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Thinking about picking up cfalcon and was wondering if he had any footstool tech? I love doing that shit
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>>135921089
>Zelda Standing/Dash/Pivot Grab Stretch X Position: 10.5/13.5/15.7 -> 11.5/14.5/16.7
How can dorf's tiny t rex arms even compete?
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>>135921148
Dorf is banned so no
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Is anyone hosting a tourney or anything this saturday? I don't wanna step on anyone's feet if I host something.
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>>135921613
>>135921148
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>>135921732
Who is this? Panchito?
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Do you think the cut assist trophies were being considered for character slots early on, like Mewtwo was for Brawl and thus not making it to the Pokeball list?
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>>135921847
Yes. How quickly we forget.
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Quick /ssbg/! Sakurai and his team have gone mad and the next character you pick is the only one you can play for the rest of Sm4sh. Who do you pick?
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>>135920859
>play as female Kamui/Corrin
>pretend Ganondorf is S supporting you
anyone else do this?
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>>135922073
C. Falcon, style for the rest of my life
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>>135922073
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>>135922073
Captain Falcon.
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>>135922073
i want to play mewtwo forever!
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>>135922073
Ryu, Peach, or Rosalina.
Might as well pick good character.
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>>135921901
Yes, but not much. I don't think they 'almost made it in' or anything, they just got to be post-it notes left on the brainstorming whiteboard for a couple weeks, while assists were already underway. They're not coming to Smash 5, end your hopes. Smash NX isn't even going to be Smash 5, for it to be a launch title it's guaranteed to be a port of Smash 4.
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>>135922073
Same Koopa like before.
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>>135920859
I hate my old phone webbums
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>>135922073
Miss Cereza is cute! Cute! CUTE!!!
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is peach's infinite patched now?

what will umeki do? I loved watching that dude pull off footstool combos in tournament
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>>135922073
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QUICK
WHICH GROUP OF LOW-TIER MEME MAINERS DO YOU THINK ARE FAGGIER:

http://strawpoll.me/7141538
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>>135922073
Charizard
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>>135920859
>le autocancel u-air spam until you win wizard
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>>135922337
looks like a videogame version of Kris Jenner. Palutena is green Kim Kardashian.
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>>135922579
>tfw
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>>135922698
Ganon is at least fun to use and play against. There's nothing fun about Dedede AND his fanbase is cancer incarnate.
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>>135922698
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>>135922757

>tfw Dair won't auto cancel anymore
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>check the people I've added from /ssbg/'s mii colors
>blue, blue, green, green, green, black, light blue, light blue, light blue, light blue, black, light blue. orange, yellow
why so blue, guys?
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WHICH BIZARRE, CONTORTED LEG CREATURE LOOKS MORE DISTURBING, BAYONETTA OR THE SILENT HILL LEG MONSTERS?

http://strawpoll.me/7141560
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>>135923104
Stop, you meme loving fuck.
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>>135920859
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>>135923104
Pikachu model using Bayo's moveset.
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>>135923104
Those finger guys from Spy Kids
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So is falcon top 15 again?
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>>135923396
No
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>>135923396
>falcon
>viable
when will this meme end?
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>check out my tier list
>instant boner
Everytime
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>>135923682
Ask DDD mains.
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>>135923682
when bad players stop seeing videos of him styling
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>>135922021
This doesn't even take into account how he constantly posts about himself in the 3rd person
It's really obvious
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>>135923682
>Charizard is viable
>Falcon isn't
What a time to be alive
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"Hey anon, meet any girls are your party game get together?"
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>>135923843

It's easy to get whatever girl is there when you're the best-looking and most socialized nerd in the room. They come right to you.
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>>135923843
>are
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This thread is dead, not a lot of people posting games

2122-7933-7145
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>>135924052
ayo les go family
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>>135924509
Hosting
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>Melee is the only game that has models for Nintendo consoles
>the only trophy to feature one is the Gamecube

I wish it carried over on a regular basis across the series ever since.
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whos your favorite smasher

mines xaltis
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>>135925037
Gimpyfish
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>>135925037
Kokonoe
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>>135925037
lupe fiasco
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>>135925037
Low Tier God
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>>135923083
It will on full hop.
Which is good for tall characters.
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REEEEE SUPER ARMOR
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>>135925482
Like just grab him, senpai lmao.
>fight Little Mac
>super armors through all my volleyballs like a cocky bastard
>eats up enough damage where I can just back air
Little Mac vs Wii Fit is fun.
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sorry about the lag man, I'll understand if you don't want to deal with it
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>>135926619
Nah man, its cool, im used to playing with some other laggy person
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well, /ssbg/?
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/ssbg/ -3DSfags general
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>>135927826
need a conversion on these wacky numbers
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>go to local sm4sh scene
>good players watching you
>good players playing you
>being on camera
>commentators pointing out your mistakes

this triggers all my autism
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>Dem matches
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>>135927861
I'm 99% sure it's in centimeters
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>>135925037
anon
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>>135927826
>tfw not on the list
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sorry
I don't know how to into mewtwo
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>>135928372
>being this insistent on your stupid list jokes
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>>135927826
If I actually knew what those numbers mean I'd gladly give you a measurement.
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>>135928661
>>135928882
Fuck off.
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>>135928882
see >>135928275
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>>135929069
How about I fuck in?
Don't worry, I'll be gentle.
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>>135929303
No, just fuck off. Most of your posts are not smash related at all and just attention whoring bait.
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How does it feel to know that Pokken is more of a real fighting game than your precious party entertainer?
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>my one friend who played Smash with me moved to Texas right around when 4 came out
>my brother used to get up play with me every day when I got home from work in the morning ( I work nights ) but now I'm lucky if I see him once a week
Anyone else /suffering/ here?
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> tr4sh
> a good game
pick one
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>>135923104
looks like sheiks dair form the best smash game
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>>135929860
I agree
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>>135927826
>tfw just short of making her ahegao
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>>135929684
>friends really like the game but not interested in competitive play

I want what ally and holy have, that shit would be prime.
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MY DICK IS ON FIRE
>that comeback
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>>135930184
>>135930286

Stop samefagging.

Fuck off Hoody/stef
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>>135930416
That was sweet
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>>135930363
I wish I could get into playing people online, but I'd rather just fight NPCs. I get so pissed when I lose and feel so bad when I win because I imagine them getting as pissed as I do.

I just want to play with a real friend so we can swear and scream and get angry, then laugh together. I want off this ride, guys.
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Post your mains

mine: Robin, Corrin
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>>135930752
>"m-muh fire emblem" faggot
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>>135930858

I don't actually play Fire Emblem, but I enjoy the fact I can choose whether I can play as a male or female whenever I feel different that day.
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>>135930515
>tfw just playing NPCs to not feel like I'm under water

I honestly can't tell if it's me or them.
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>>135929303
If I beat you in a first to 5 will you never post here again?
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>>135931050
No, online is laggy as fuck regardless of where I'm playing. It's just shit to have to play a really precise fighter like Smash through Wifi. Another reason I'm hurting for local play.
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>>135927826
>tfw only get her to make the extra lewd face
I always aim for ahegao.

>>135931087
Yeah, sure.
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>>135931472
woah calm down there friend
let's not be hasty
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>>135931472
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>>135931545
Alright then.
FC is 2981 6606 3988
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>>135931810
Added, Batsy.
Let's aim for 10 minutes, I wanna go to bed soon.
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>>135931810
make sure to save all the replays
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>>135932007
Alright, 3DS should be done updating in a minute or two.

>>135932036
Why?
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>>135932139
in case he denies that he loses after you trounce him lmao
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>>135932139
You'll find out
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>those meme kills
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>>135932007
Host.
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GGs bros, but its getting late, that was helluva great matches
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good gays my man
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1/5
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>>135933796
Doing the lord's work
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2/5
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Aw, GGs Falkore.
Close games. Real fun.

But I didn't sign a contract.
Also, why do you wanna keep going? We already went past the best of 5 mark.
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>>135933960
Nice one
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>>135933971
I said first to 5,
>close games
Don't try to sweeten it up you got bodied.
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>>135933971
>hoody
>falkore

shitposting cancers flock together, I see
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>>135933971
>>135934124
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3/5
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So, I've never lurked here before, but wanted to see what everyone thought of Sma4sh / DLC characters and shit, and I've gotta say, this tripfaggot shitposting cancer is pretty fucking awful. How do you people who aren't even stand it?
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>>135921173
yeah cant do the jab infinite anymore
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>>135934267
The other two games don't exist but I would've won both of them anyway.

>>135934305
You should probably go somewhere that has actual discussion, /ssbg/ is just cancer.
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>>135934124
>first to five
Do you really think I have the fucking time for that? It's almost 3 AM.
GGs, you win.

>you got bodied
How does the best Ike in the general (at least, from word of mouth) drop a game against Hoody the shitter's Samus?
And those last two games were both of us well over 100% on our final stocks.

Don't try to hide it Falkore, the gap between us is as thin air as Macfag's skill.

Now if you excuse me, I must get some rest.
These threads don't shitpost themselves you know?
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>>135934454
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>>135934454
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>>135934597
I went for a Chazo-esque vibe since it's Falkore.
It's not perfect but I'm proud of it.
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>>135934454
I play at 50% strength on 3DS, only because the controls are shit. You wouldn't have gotten me past 30% on my first stock if it was Wii U. The gap between us is wide and something that you will never close.

>>135934597
I'm assuming you're just as bad.
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>>135934395
About Sm4sh? Where? fucking /v/? Or /b/? Fucking reddit? No thanks.
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>>135934685
I dunno, one way to find out
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>>135934702
Smashboards, Anther's, any Sm4sh related discord.

>>135934762
Considering you didn't post your FC I'm gonna assume that you don't want to find out.
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>>135934454
>bitching out before you can lose all five matches
>h-haha y-you lost a g-game to m-me and i'm a shitter! y-you suck!
>going back on your word
3DSfags, everyone
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>>135934916
Oh yea, I forgot

2122-7933-7145

Let's do best of three, It's very late
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>>135934305
This place is a hellhole full of circlejekers and "He who must not be named"

You better leave for smashboards
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>>135934987
He didn't even win a game either, although I don't think he was implying that he did.

>>135935009
2981 6606 3988
Host.
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>>135935109
>How does the best Ike in the general (at least, from word of mouth) drop a game against Hoody the shitter's Samus?
I think the meaning was pretty clear
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>>135935239
It makes you 100% strength because that's the only system you play on.
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>>135935239
Please stop mentioning my name, thank you. Unlike falk, i dont particularly care to have photographic evidence of me winning. All that matters is at the end of the day, I win, and you lose. And thats good enough for me.
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>tfw too tired for pokken

_____who 3ds______
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GGs Falkore, you're pretty gudder than that trap Hoody

Goodnite /ssbg/!
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>>135936026
I guess you aren't as shit, but you play Mac so idk.
Average at best.
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>>135935767
FUCK OFF CANCER

holy shit I thought you left for your discord
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>>135935767
>All that matters is at the end of the day, I win, and you lose. And thats good enough for me.


Could you be any more insufferable? Stay free at your locals, you pathetic fraud
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>>135935767
WHEN ARE WE GONNA DOCK DICKS MY BEAUTIFUL NIGGER???!
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>>135935767
>brags about beating players
>tripcode is based on the character he'd suck dick for
100% certified narcissistic, a Chazo original
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Post your mains!
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>>135935767
Go away
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>>135936772
Fuck off Kokonoe, not smash related
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>>135936772
Wrong general, tekken was shit anyways
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>>135937019
>not smash related

there is very clearly a smash character in that picture senpai
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These general is a shitpost hub.

No one can deny this anymore.

Shut it down.

Move to the discord, or back to /v/, or smashboards
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>>135937272
>Move to the discord
you say that like it'd be an improvement
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>>135937335
me
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>>135937272
>Move to the discord
delete this
I will never namefag
N E V E R
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>>135937335

Fuck off stef.
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>>135938084
I like stef, she's one of the honest /ssbg/ players
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Why is Mega Man fucking shit? Am I missing something? Some people are saying he's great, but it doesn't seem like it.
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>>135939049
how are you trying to play him?
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>>135939049
go bug australia about it
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>>135939208
I assume I have to do mix ups. I don't use the neutral a a lot, but I use the dash attack and special attacks a lot
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>>135939395
lemons and metal blade are your two most important tools, use them a lot
lemons are good for stun and keeping opponents from getting in, same with metal blade. lemons have a knockback bonus up close while blades have a lot of setups, learn them
crash is good but shouldn't be relied on as much, it's mostly for pressuring shield-happy opponents and being an extra hurdle for opponents to pass every now and then. clever use of it can make it very effective though
leaf shield is good but situational, it's good for footstool edgeguarding certain characters, busting through most opponent projectiles and getting a little close for grabs. it's slow to start compared to other moves and locks you out of everything except throwing items (blade) so be careful
bair is a good killer, dair a good spike once you adjust to it, fair a good close range spacing tool and nair for standard zoning. uair is a good damage dealer when opponents are above and forces them to go certain ways or eat a bunch of damage, it can even KO under the right circumstances. remember to fastfall after shooting for reduced endlag
utilt is a brutal killer with quick startup but horrible endlag, use wisely. dtilt is good for punishing opponents who whiff a move a little bit too close to you, also punishable on shield but still good. ftilt's just lemons
dsmash is slower than utilt and has worse endlag for the same payoff, only good for reads. usmash deals heavy damage and at low % can combo into itself on some characters, not the best killer but does the job decently enough. fsmash is ok, don't worry about using it too much due to it's startup. makes it easy to see coming

generally your gameplan is to keep away and pelt them with projectiles, but you have plenty of options in close quarters as well to keep opponents off or airbourne. try not to be too aggressive, megaman isn't good at offense like that. optimal distance is usually around 1/3 of FD but can depend on the matchup.

questions?
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Went to my first irl tourney two days ago and placed 4th out of 30 something. Lost to the number 2 guy in my region and some guy that counterpicked me with pika. Do I have potential?

Note: I'm a reaction based player that just keeps approaching so I'm not doing as good as I feel I should
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>>135940035
yeah, the lemons aren't exactly what I would call amazing. The range isn't great and I don't think the way they're spaced helps. It also sucks because I can't adjust to having them because they also feel a bit slow. How should I know when to not use them?
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>>135940241
when to and not to use them just comes down to instinct i find, if they're at a distance but too far from them to get hit a one or two shot burst works nice, hell in general throwing out a one/two shot burst instead of the regular triple shot is nice. makes you less predictable
jumping and shooting helps but don't do it all the time, sometimes jumping just gets you caught by a smart opponent.
maybe fight me a bit to show me what you can do?
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>>135940063
potential don't mean shit if you're not willing to learn what to do better and not assume that you are still better than the people who beat you just because you "can" be.

So yea I guess you could have it if you actually go out of your way to learn what you need to do, get some practice in Fuck you if you think you can be amazing without any practice and then you can get there for sure.

Also depends on how casual the tourney was and what region it was in too.
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>>135940459
when you buy me a plane ticket
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Did the AI get harder in the new update? Or am I just insanely rusty?
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>>135940373
Sure. I'll fight you. What's your NNID?
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>>135940726
right general
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>>135940642
AI has been updated a number of times, but that said, I can't tell you the what patch each change was implemented, nor if there were any for this patch because I don't normally play against. AI
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>>135940765
NNID TheListerMister
gotta get a quick bite to eat before though so add me and host, i'll join in about 10 minutes
if connection is shit speak up
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>>135940384
Thanks for the words mate, I'm gonna try and take this opportunity and become something. And you're right, It was my fault I lost, but my playstyle will have to remain the same since it's all I know.

It was socal tourney and everyone was pretty good, best Rosa and best Villager in my region were here.
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>>135940880
sent my request
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>>135940973
Go for it man, best of luck out there
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>>135940813
Iceman looks really salty
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>>135940995
alright you host then
will be going roy for a bit to see how you can shut me down
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>>135941065
I don't know what he expected, he was at 111 at an edge-guard situation as marth vs marth

both of them seemed to have over reacted considering it was 2 stocks to 1
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Make a list of all the /ssbg/ players, i'm a newfag to this generel
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>>135941259
This, someone should make a new power ranking.
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>>135941164
That was a really shitty connection. I could feel the one second lag.
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>>135941382
Should there be a Ganondorf-tier?
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>>135941382
>tfw won't be on the list
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>>135941421
i know
was worth a try at least, kinda hard to get anything from that match

why don't you play a few matches on FG, save replays of the good connection matches (win or lose doesn't matter) so i can study them and help you that way?
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>>135922073

Mewtwo.

Praise be that he got some buffs. I'd have chosen him either way, but I'd prefer to not be a masochist.
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>>135941493
Yea
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>>135941382
someone should make a new cancer level ranking.
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>>135942529
Cancerous tier:
you

Not cancerous tier:
me
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>>135944000
haha gotem
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>mac gets hit by dorf's flame choke
>tech roll away
>still hit by down tilt
t-thanks sakurai
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>>135947456
>play bowser
>flame choked
>tech away, dtilted
>tech towards, dtilted
>tech normally, dtilted
>don't tech and attempt getup anything, dtilted
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>gets nerfed
>they then buff the swordsmen and samus
>characters that could potentially fuck him up bad
Luigi got BTFO so hard.
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Post yfw PPMD went out like a sick old man on day 2 of BotG.
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>>135947773
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>>135947773
mfw (my face when) you think I give a heck about melee
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>people still have problems with Bowser and Ganondorf
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>>135949496
>>135949580
>gay shit
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>>135949580
>>135949496
Fuck off Hoody.
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>>135948034
>Not caring about the definitive smash game

Next you'll be telling me you aren't obsessed with Emily Barry.
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How fight Bowser and Charizard as Lucario now?
I cant challenge any aerials they have, and both have kill throws and powerful jabs that kill st ledge.
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>>135952079
>Using steel types against fire types
Pick a different pokemon. Bowser is low key retarded. Half of Bowser's MUs are a breeze for him, and the other half Bowser just gets shat on.
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>>135949496
>>135949580
>one hour later
>still not deleted
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>>135951929
literally who
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>>135922073
I'd be okay with it.
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>>135949496
>>135949580
do NOT lewd the pits
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Anybody up for some matches on the 3ds?
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someone draw /ssbg/ hentai
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>>135955862
Hoody power bottoming Pame/Macfag when?
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>>135935767
>when you fishing for small fries but you catch the lake monster
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s-senpai, fill my WF Menu with your big, hard lobby

Someone play games with me
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Does anyone want to play dubs? It's pretty early but maybe there are enough people here.
Need 2 more.
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>>135958574
Nobody?
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>>135960702
I don't wanna play with a laggy Lucina who pins the lag on their opponent.
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>>135961074
but I said several times it's both of us
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>>135961151
Except I already posted my average upload speed and I have a good enough connection with most players as long as they don't live in Mexico.

Post speed test.
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>>135960702
Then show me your Lucina, if you really are not laggy. Room is open.
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>>135961386
Maybe later
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>>135961451
It can't be worse than mine
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>>135962028
"Can't" is a strong word
>>135961448
Holy christ cans are fun
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>>135962028
>>135962310
I actually can't tell if you two are just jokers.
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>>135962310
What is that thing?
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>>135962575
Why whats yours?, I live in the country far from the exchange at the end of the line. It's everything that could be wrong.
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>>135963031
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Last match.
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>only one DLC was good
>the rest was detrimental to the game
>only the last patch fixes a small part of bullshit
Will we get another patch? I already thought Smash 4 was done for so 1.1.5 was really surprising.
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https://twitter.com/TSMZeRo/status/711939942851555328

How very surprising.
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>>135963168
>Cloud
>not good

Just because you're a shitter and lose for him doesn't make him a bad character to add to the game.
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>>135963265
he's detrimental to the experience of everyone who doesn't play him
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GG, Lucinas sword is really annoying for DH.
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Literally every time I come to this thread thinking to get a match, you meme loving fucks are more cancer than the last time
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Super fun games Rob, thanks for them

Your cans both made me amazed and made me want to kill myself
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>>135963168
They won't stop this year
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>>135963524
How do you know?
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>>135963438
I try my best.
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>>135963598
Bo5 me for your right to post you little faggot
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>>135963598
Hoody, do you ever stop shitposting
Like, jesus, just play the game or bugger off man
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>>135963583
Just a gut feeling, don't take it seriously, maintenance should last for a minimum of 2 years, so I wouldn't expect patches to stop until october.
Hell, I wouldn't expect them to stop until development for the next game starts
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>>135963663
How about we frot and whoever cums first needs to eat both the loser's and the winner's cum?

>>135963734
This is the only way I can find happiness ever since you left me, leave me alone. ;_;
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>>135963772
That sounds reasonable. Too bad it's Nintendo we are talking about, or that's what I would say but the last patch was pretty good so I'm hoping that the Namco team is in charge now.
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>>135963827
pussy
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>>135963858
No thanks.
Not unless it's boypussy.
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Need one for dubs
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>>135963989
Fight me nigga
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>>135963989
Hoody you are not welcome on /ssbg/
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>>135963439
Perhaps you will join doubles in the future.
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>>135964115
>Not unless it's boypussy
>Macfag comes out of the woodwork
Well jeez, Macfag. I never would have guess.

>>135964181
Why not? I play and talk about the game more than you do.
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>>135964205
Not likely.
I don't have the best internet so I'd hate to bring it down for the rest of you.
And I'm pretty bad at the game, so I'd just be a burden on my teammate.

Thank you though!
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>>135964307
>I play and talk about the game more than you do.
Bo5 me for your right to post
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>>135964307
Why you fronting nigga? We dueling or not?
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>>135964381
You are nod bad, your spacing is in snyc for a sword character and that's the most important thing.
But of course as always if an opportunity comes up: take it or leave it.
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>>135964307
>Why not? I play and talk about the game more than you do.
Explain >>135963989 >>135963827 >>135963598 >>135949496 >>135949580 >>135934454 >>135929303 >>135928882
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>>135964658
Maybe if it comes up at a good time I'll give it a try
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>>135964385
How about we take turns blowing each other and whoever gives the best blowjob is the winner?
You blow first. I promise I won't just have you blow me and then go back on my word. :^)

>>135964432
In about 3 hours.
You seem like a useless cunt who plays video games all day so you probably have no issues with that.

>>135964807
What is there to explain?
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REMINDER TO REPORT HOODY AND FILTER HIM
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>>135965054
>Play videogames all day
Not even nigga, only play when looking for games. Even if i did, it'd be a helluva lot better than talking trash, cower from fights and shitposts traps all day everyday
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>>135965370
>Macfag wising up
About time you stopped enabling him.
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Hoody was a mistake
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>>135965812
He still have to learn the art of the cleared namespace tho
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so are we all just gonna keep shitposting or are we gonna play some games
i'll go play Stardew Valley if we're still shitposting
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>>135966059
1v1?
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Trying to learn pac-man? Anyone have some tips?
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>>135966059
Lemme get my 3ds
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>>135966218
Of course, post friend code.
>>135966289
Sorry, maybe next time if Macfag posts his code.
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>>135966218
Forgot FC
2122-7933-7145
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>>135966220
Learn your Fair strings.
Mash A to Nair out of combos.
Learn your hydrant combos and launch angles.
Learn your fruit patterns, speed, damage, and how they act when you Z drop them.
Abuse your trampoline.
Pellet's make excellent projectile shields and heal you for 1 percent.
Learn your setups for grabs and kills. You have a lot.
And most importantly, don't be obvious about what you're trying to do and don't get greedy with your setups. If you're not comfortable with a setup yet then don't try too hard to do it in a real match, just keep practicing.
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You play the strangest Dr. Mario I've ever seen
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>>135966997
Thanks!!
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>>135967118
He likes to jump in, double jump to bait out a reaction, then throw out a move when you're out of shield.
He's horrible at spacing his Smash attacks.
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>>135967118
Hehe I'm not used to playing him, but I try :P
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>>135967245
>tfw I requested a coloured version on /r/ and some anon delivered
>tfw I erased it along with all my cute folder some months ago in an anti waifu - normie freenzy
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That was just sad, I'm sorry
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>>135967483
>in an anti waifu - normie freenzy
That doesn't sound very normie-like, Anon.
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GGs pal, but it is time for work, you play a good lucina/marth
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>>135968285
>you play a good lucina/marth
>when I got completely stomped on
t-thanks

Fun games though
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Does anyone know if it's possible to to change the direction you're facing and down smash with ZSS instantly? So if i'm facing right and I want to predict a roll and punish with my down smash I can shoot the ground to the left of me instantly?
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>>135968876
maybe with one of those fancy perfect pivot things
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>>135968876
with frame perfect timing you can do it in 3 frames
you need your cstick set to smash though
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>>135947640
Ever tried getup attack?
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Who /lurker/ here?
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>>135968876
I don't know if it's the thing you ask, but you can change the direction of a down smash attack by pushing the pad in the opposite direction ever so slightly.
Imagine the direction on a clock, then if would be 5 or 7 o'clock.
Works for up and normal smash attacks as well.
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who 1v1 here?
NA
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>>135919983
1. Should I be mashing before I do the actual throw?

2. Who is the Daigo/JWong/Snake Eyez/Infiltration/Mike Ross of Smash? I'm completely new and I don't know who to watch.
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>>135966997
Thanks a lot bro. Any match ups to watch out for. What stages should i pick?
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>>135969505
Yo what'ts the link for your discord?
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>>135969739
1. ??? Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean if you get thrown? Or before you throw someone else?

Assuming you mean Sm4sh and not melee: ZeRo/Nairo/Dabuz/Shofu(lol).
But there are lots of high level players worth watching like M2K, Anti, Ally, ESAM, and a bunch of others. Youll know who to watch by watching the big tournaments and seeing who makes it to the top 12.

>>135969870
ctrl+f
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>>135969505
Fuck off
>>135969870
You too
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>>135969739
Here are four of the best in one set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn03pb4hKJU
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>>135970301
I mean as soon as you grab someone you can hit them some more before throwing them. For some reason tournament players don't do this much.
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>>135970601
you mean a pummel. The enemy can mash out of it if they're fast enough, so unless they're at a high percent it can be risky
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>>135970601
Theres three concepts you have to understand and keep in mind every time you grab someone

The most important one is DI (Directional influence), and what usually is the first thing people think about when they successfully grab someone. DI lets the opponent adjust the trajectory in which they are sent flying after theyve been hit. And when you grab someone, you are always looking for a follow up to keep the damage comming or potentially kill them, but this can be a problem if the Opponent is DIing properly (often times away to make it harder for you to jump after them)
However, some characters have very fast throws, and if you grab someone fast enough, you can you can throw them before they even react to properly DI, to ensure your combo works properly.

Secondly, pummeling like >>135970881
said, is very useful, but the lower %s the guy getting grabbed at is, the quicker theyll break free of the grab. As a general rule, never pummel when the enemy is below 40%. 40-80% pummel once, 80-120% twice, and 130%+ up to 3 times, assuming your character has an average speed pummel, and not slow like duck hunt.

Finally the last thing you have to keep in mind is: "What can I do out of my optimal throw at this % as this character?"

Some characters simply cant kill or cant follow up after their grabs after certain%s or often not at all. So pummeling is the only thing they can do to rack up extra damage. On the flip side, some character like ZSS or MK straight up kill you from their grabs if they grab you at certain %s and you dont DI properly, so they wont even bother pummeling since itll just give you extra time to DI.

Hope that helps
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>>135920332
this is not a ssbg discord, stop spamming this link in every thread
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>>135969054
No
>>135969112
Alright I'll check that out. I've had my C stick set to attack for wave bouncing, but I fuck it up half the time anyway.

>>135969379
I feel like i've tried that and never been able to get it. I'll keep at it a little more I guess.
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>>135968876
If you angle your C-Stick well enough you'll get both a turn around and a Down Smash at the same time.
At least, I can't see a difference between that method and turning around + C Stick Smash.

>>135969054
That'd be slower and have a bigger margin for error.

>>135969739
>Should I be mashing before I do the actual throw?
Depends on their percent and your pummel speed.
Some characters like Ness and Lucario can get two or three hits in easily at mid percents while characters like Pac-Man have horribly slow pummels.

>Who is the Daigo/JWong/Snake Eyez/Infiltration/Mike Ross of Smash? I'm completely new and I don't know who to watch.
Best players? We have those but I would only follow about two of them.
I would really recommend you actually get familiar with a character, or a handful of them if you can't pick one, and watch the best player for that character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyq7Rijlevg

>tfw no fuckboy bf over 30

>>135969849
Matchups? Rosalina is annoying. Villagers don't actually take away your fruit if they pocket it, only if they hold it. But they can just Pocket Hydrant, Pocket Key. All you have left is Pellet Shielding.
I hate fighting ROB as Pac-Man. He can just Uair through Hydrant so don't try throwing that out ever if you're at Uair kill percent.

As for stages. I like Duck Hunt because it gives you a lot of space for traps, you can hide Hydrants and Fruit in grass. You can stale your Fair on the ducks for more combo potential or even Z drop your fruit on them though I've yet to find a real useful application for this besides controlling where the dog will pop up.
My favorite trick, however, is tossing out Fruit just before the dog shows up so that it behaves like it was just dropped on his head, ready to get picked up.
Worst stages are Battlefield and Dream Land 64. The platforms get in your way more than anything.
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>>135971282
>>135970521
Damn this is complex intellectual advanced shit right here.

I'm really enjoying Smash. People actually play it unlike Blazblue and Cyberbots
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>>135972028
I've had my C-stick set to attack for sheik techs, but I'll test it out now with it set to smash, thanks!
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results in major tournies after new patch:
Shockwave Plano 76 (March 16th) (Regional)

1st: Karna (Sheik)
2nd: Awestin (Ness)
3rd: Denti (Cloud)
4th: Cosmos (Corrin)
5th: Gyo (R.O.B.)
5th: Sassy (R.O.B.)
7th: Dakpo (Zero Suit Samus)
7th: YellowRello (Yoshi)
9th: P2P With Gibus (Greninja)
9th: Aerolink (Bayonetta)
9th: CalmAnimal (Bowser)
9th: Phenom (Fox)
13th: Deezus (Ryu)
13th: Mew^2 (Mewtwo)
13th: Johan (Robin)
13th: LiLPac (Little Mac)


Hirosuma 3 (March 19th) (Regional)

1st: Ikep (Bayonetta)
2nd: Wasubi (Wario, Mario)
3rd: 9B (Bayonetta)
4th: Ri-Ma (Toon Link)
5th: FILIP (Mario)
5th: Lagnel (Cloud, Zero Suit Samus)
7th: Mizero (Bayonetta, Peach)
7th: Ron (Luigi, Mario)
9th: Karoegu (Pikachu)
9th: Shimitake (Pikachu)
9th: Depuzo (King Dedede)
9th: Persia (???)
13th: Zoma (Mewtwo)
13th: Lickey (Meta Knight)
13th: Yassan (Zero Suit Samus)
13th: Sushi (???)


Midwest Mayhem (March 19th) (Regional)

1st: Ally (Mario, R.O.B)
2nd: Mr. R. (Sheik)
3rd: Tyroy (Bayonetta, Meta Knight)
4th: Hyuga (Toon Link)
5th: Zinoto (Diddy Kong)
5th: Nite (Rosalina)
7th: Greenbeast (Olimar)
7th: MJG (Villager, Toon Link)
9th: Dan (Mario)
9th: Shel (Luigi)
9th: Akiro (Sheik)
9th: JJROCKETS (Diddy Kong)
13th: Ned (Zero Suit Samus)
13th: BoScotty (R.O.B., Peach)
13th: Ruins (Fox)
13th: Nero (Pikachu)


Final Round 19 (March 18th-20th) (Regional)

1st: Anti (Mario, Zero Suit Samus, Sheik)
2nd: Scatt (Mega Man, Cloud)
3rd: Fatality (Captain Falcon)
4th: LordMix (Bowser)
5th: Wrath (Sonic)
5th: Oni Day (Lucario)
7th: Player-1 (Diddy Kong)
7th: Rango (Ike)


Come to Papa (March 19th) (Regional)

1st: MVD (Diddy Kong)
2nd: Ryo (Corrin, Ike)
3rd: Myran (Olimar)
4th: Master Raven (Sheik)
5th: Dyr (Diddy Kong)
5th: Heero/Static Manny (Sonic)
7th: Riot (Donkey Kong, Bayonetta)
7th: Dath (Robin)
9th: Purple Guy (Sheik, Zelda)
9th: Poltergust (Yoshi)
9th: TrueBlue (Sonic)
9th: RoguePenguin (Mario)
13th: Sol (Little Mac)
13th: Pthas (Lucario)
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>>135972232
Regionals are weird
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>>135972163
>If you angle your C-Stick well enough
No wait. Anon!
I mean your Analog Stick!
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>>135972386
I actually figured it out on my own that if I tap right on the analogue stick and down on the c-stick at the same time I'll instantly turn in that direction and down smash. Thanks, anon
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>>135972232
>Shockwave
>regional
I mean there were a shit ton of people last time but it's still a weekly.
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>>135972680
it had alot of people from Oklahoma and the rest of texas.
also they record tournies based on if the attendees reach 100+ with notable players
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Newfag here, lurking about 2 days ago, what's so bad about this chazo guy? All he does is post looking for games, yet you treat him like the second coming of hitler
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>>135972232
>Mr. R
>2nd in Glitch, 2nd in Midwest Mayhem, 2nd at Shots Fired 2 all back to back

Does he come all the way from the Netherlands to try for second? I didn't watch MM but I know Void 6-0'd him at Glitch.
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>>135972549
I wouldn't give up Tilt/Special C-Stick for that.
What I meant was input to the opposite direction you're facing to do a turn around and then lowering your input to the point where it's considered Down to do a Down Smash.
If you do it fast enough it's pretty damn instant but I don't think that's exactly frame perfect now that I'm seeing it in slow motion.
It's up to you.

I really wish Smash had a fleshed out Training mode.

>>135973415
2nd still offers a lot of prize money and he does have a sponsor.
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>>135973346
inb4 people accuse you of being chazo.
But, there was some drama with the discord and some tournies. Alot of people think he's an asshole/annoying so they chased them off.
he is one,but smashfags are autistic and exaggerate everything.
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>>135973072
>it had alot of people from Oklahoma and the rest of texas
Mostly because of spring break and people wanting to come play here (because Shockwave is the most viewed Texas weekly I'm guessing).
Where are you getting all these results from anyway?
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>>135973567
>Where are you getting all these results from anyway?
Not them but tourney results are a Google search away.

Even for the old 3DS tourneys.
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>>135973415
Mr R seems to choke alot.
>>135973567
there's a couple of guys on smashboards who record results from majors/regionals either for posterity or possible infor for tier list
http://smashboards.com/members/das-koopa.251931/
here's one guy who does it
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Someone play games with me
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>>135973536
>wouldn't give up tilt/special c-stick for that.
Are you saying I should keep my C-stick for attack for tilt's and wavebounces etc?
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>>135974250
Tilt/Special C-Stick give you a couple more options and some character specific tech is completely dependent on them.

So yeah, Smash C-Stick is kind of garbage if you wanna aim to master tech. But raw fundamentals in Smash 4 should take you far enough.
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i main peach, lucario, pink pit, male wii fit trainer, and yoshi
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Wow, all these Mewtwo, Charizard and Samus players got really skillful all of a sudden!
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>>135974715
>>135973346

don't play this fucking cancer and don't join his circlejerk discord
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>>135974715
You're doing it Anon
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>>135972232
>sheik still numbah 1
>all those bayos
>mewtwo getting results and going up
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>>135975287
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How about we make Chazo nice with the power of love and friendship instead of bitching at him
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>>135975649
Fuck off Chazo
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>>135974715
>Chazo doesn't have $400 to his name
>tfw significantly better off than Chazo
Top laff
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>>135975287
NNID/FC/Steam ID/Skype/E-Mail?
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>>135975764
>
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>>135975649
he's beyond saving and needs to stay in /v/
he's circlejerking this hard because he doesn't have any friends to hang out with outside of his basement
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>>135974241
this desu senpai
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>>135976143
Host.
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>>135976206
no memes please
just games
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Okay /ssbg/, convince me into buying a Wii U. What's the incentives? Tokyo Mirage Sessions seems cool, and I'm not interested of getting Pokkén. I'm still on the fence about it
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>>135973536
Is there anyway you could record what you're doing to show what you mean? I guess that's a little much to ask.
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What do I do against someone who always roll spams to the edge of the stage and then rolls to the other side when you pursue him?
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>>135975309
too bad samus and zard still suck
and mewtwo barely changed this patch, it was last patch that made him good
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>>135975309
Whats your point? They got buffed, of course they'll play better
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>>135976294
W101
Bayo 2
Xeno X
Splatoon
Mario Kart 8
Tropical Dong
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Any tips for the Aura Mastery event on hard?
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>>135976294
I bought my Wii U only for smash and I don't regret it
Also enjoy star fox zero, mario kart and xenoblade chronicles x for example and wii games
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>>135976276
Host.

>>135976294
Why? It's your money.

>>135976371
Unfortunately no.
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>>135976514
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>>135976484
Use defense custom equips
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>>135976294
Don't do it, you'll regret it after a week guaranteed. The new console shininess will wear once you realize it has no future and Nintendo is abandoning it hard. It's got some goodies like >>135976445 was pointing out (although the list is purely subjective), but there's nothing on the horizon for it and Sm4sh will get boring unless it's your first Smash Bros. game
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>>135976598
H O S T
O
S
T
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>>135976969
oh i thought it was memes
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>>135976738
I bought mine only for Smash and I still don't regret it after 3 months.
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Anyone want to play? Up for either console.
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>>135976445
>>135976738
>almost forgot about Mario Kart 8 and Tropical Freeze
Idk, like i said, I'm still deciding to buy one. Just gonna wait for a couple of months and see how it goes
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>>135976445
>>135976294
Don't get W101 that game was fucking ass
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holy christ my heart has never beaten so fast
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>>135978937
By E3 I can guarantee you the NX will have been announced, so don't expect more support after that.

>>135979007
shaking my head at (You) familia
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>>135978745
You actually improved your spacing.
But you completely overextend your Jab combos.
Also, you're still the laggiest player I've faced.
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>>135979440
t-thanks
Last one from me btw
If I keep having matches like that I'm going to have a heartattack
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GGs Hoody
>that shieldbreak
>that third match
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Anyone down for some dubs?
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>>135979580
Oh, and also, you should try edgeguarding more. Specially against a character with such a linear and vulnerable recovery as Rosalina.
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>>135980432
I've been working on edgeguarding.
I'm just afraid I'll SD since I usually do
>>135980364
I'll join in if no one takes the fourth spot
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>>135980269
I always try to Power Shield Shield Breaker because I'm hardcore.
But then you activated Witch Time without even picking Bayonetta.
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>>135980607
>shieldbreak you
>next match you go hard af trying to win
>I get lucky af and win again
why does it feel so good
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Which regular should we make a meme abot?
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>>135980573

Cool , 2 more for 3ds dubs?
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>>135980364
Yes, add me.
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>>135980801
Because you could never beat me even when I came at you with different characters?

>get sexy as fuck early string
>lag ruins my momentum
Ree.

>>135980834
Wanna see Fishy's butt?

>>135980906
I guess I could join.
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>>135981182
are you forgetting that one link match
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>>135980994

Added,


About.to host up now.
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1v1?
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>>135981274
Are you forgetting that one Wii Fit match?
Which one? Hell if I know. There are just so many.
Can't help but feel like I'm boring my opponent to death so I've kind of stopped using her in friendlies and it's been affecting me.
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should I leave, was it laggy for you guys
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God I can't believe I forgot how much doubles almost always lag.
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Looking for dubs.
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>>135982486
>>135982397 might be leaving the current 3Dubs room.
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>>135982397
>>135982441
That wasn't lag, someone got thrown out of the match entirely.
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>>135982486

Join my room
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>>135982626
Yeah, says Fish is host now and I can't join back in.
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>>135981993
Continue not using her
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3DS dubs?
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Moxy or Hoody should join the doubles, I'll leave since that guy got thrown out and all
thanks for the game, that was fun. It made me feel special that I came in first
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>>135982843
That guy got thrown out because he had a short disconnect. This has nothing to do with you.
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>>135983031
They want to play anyways, so it's alright
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>>135982689
Do you really want me to use Rosalina?
I mean, I could try playing more Samus but then it's like
>counterpicks Villager
And I could try playing more Palutena but all she has is Jab 1, Fair, and Bair and two of those get beaten out pretty easily by most characters.
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>>135983525
Rosalina is more fun to fight against. WFT is literally "Shield until they get bored and come to hit you"
With Rosalina I can do what I do best, stand on the other side of the level with no idea what to do
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>>135983691
For the record I'm not a waifu fag, I just like human-shaped characters.
Who aren't manlets.
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>>135984231
>tfw got called a waifufag for maining Lucina and Palutena
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>>135984231
Lucina is a womanlet tho
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When do we swap teams?
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I am so sorry Moxy, I killed you like twice when I got distracted by DHD's yiping after he got star KOed, I'd never heard it before.
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>>135984460
Take that back!
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>That team kill.


Good shit Rob.
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>>135984593
no.
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Last one for me, FG with stocks is a snoozefest.
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>>135984376
But you are a waifufag when it comes to Palutena.
If anybody says anything about her you get triggered hard.

>>135984460
I don't play Lucina. And if I wanted to play Lucina I'd just play Marth.
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>>135984716
Nah, Palutena isn't muh waifu
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>>135984683
>FG with stocks is a snoozefest.
TopCake.
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Why does reddit hate mang0 so much?
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>>135984990
I don't know, why don't you ask leddit you faggot.
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>>135984587
It the saddest of all.

Ok, that was dumb...
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Who wants to play with me?
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>that 4 to 2 stock choke
>that 2v1 counter choke
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>>135984376
>get called waifufag for using Rosalina
>i don't care because it's true
>proceed to wreck shit
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>>135984990
>asking a mostly smash 4 thread on a taiwanese basket knitting imageboard why a different site hates a melee player
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>>135985151
I'm down, one sec
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>>135984929
Can't wait for yet another omega stage next round.
>>135985193
Thanks for playing. try not to fully charge smashes or throw out attacks near me so much. Did good otherwise!
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>>135985525

Fuck you for not teaming with me.
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>>135985410
Hoastin'
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>>135985525
That was probably bad luck. I didn't chose a omega stage once.
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>>135985786
You single?
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>>135985525
Honestly I pretty much only fully charged them when I realized you were in the way so that you'd have more time to move.
Although I spaced out hard on that DHD yipe thing and starting just randomly smash attacking for a bit, sorry again about that one.
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>>135985735
I dunno who you are or if you know I always go right on ahead once we get 4 players.
>budget me also plays Palutena
Welp, time to find yet another character
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>All that 3DS activity while I'm at work
Please kill me
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>>135986098
Weren't you and Hoody supposed to stream some battles so you both would stop shitposting.
Just do it already,
You're both here, Hoody was just posting and you're right here.
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>>135986098
Don't mind if I do!
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>>135986095

You know me, i know you. Im the fucker who got dubs started.
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>>135986235
Idk how to stream, but i can post the replays as soon as I figure out how to convert ihem to webm and when I get home
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>>135986503
Good luck on finding something, I'm pretty sure just about everyone here would be happy to see you both stop.
I'm pretty sure you'd win too. I'm awful but your Mac seemed amazing
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>>135985903
Nope
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>>135986609
I can agree you're awful but at least you didn't get two stocked by my Rosalina.
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>>135986761
Pot calling kettle black. Nice to see you are tripfagging. Adieux, cancer. You will always have shittier versions of my characters.
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>>135986761
No, I shieldbroke it, and it felt great
>picture got changed into that shit
why though
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>>135984990
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Pokken.
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>>135987057
That's nice.
I spiked you and it didn't feel like anything special.

Tell me, how does this image make you feel?
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>>135987098
Wrong general
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>>135987210
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>>135985903
Nice try pame
>>
MAHVEL
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>>135988761
Versus Capcum
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>>135988994
2
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>>135988994
>cum
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GGs Stef.
Fuck Ness' Bthrow, it feels awful having to play in fear of that shit as soon as I hit 100%
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>>135989365
Ness has a pretty garbage grab.
Just don't get grabbed.
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>>135989365
Gg's, I had to eat dinner
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Why does ssbg hate hoody so much?
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>>135990324
i dont
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>>135951929
>implying the definitive smash game is still realized to this day

We've gotten a great deal of monumental fanservice and memorable turnabouts across the entire series for sure, but we have yet to get a game that wasn't held back and dragged down by cheap ass limitations, restraints and/or incompetence.
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>>135986761
>keeps mentioning that one only instance where he 2-stocked me (read, barely made it out alive with one stock and 100%+) and it is starting to sound like a gay broken record
>doesn't mention the countless times I BTLFO when he was using his main
Stay classy, trap, you heading beyond Chazo territory

>inb4 Hoody makes another cowardly excuse/keeps shitposting traps
>>
So is this secretly trap general as well as smash general?
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>>135990793
I'm not secretly a trap though
>>135990324
He shitposts a lot, is really annoying and surely, And doesn't give good reactions when you try to act like a sperg
he's okay though
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>>135990793
There's no moderation to keep the trap stuff from being posted all over the place. Doesn't really mean that it's okay, though.
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Any tips for someone looking to play lots of Bayo, Palu, Lil Mac, and villager?
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>>135990324
>when you never really meant any of this to happen but you have no choice but to adapt to the circumstances
Let's be honest, we passed the point of no return a while ago.
I could leave but where's the fun in that?

>>135990714
Countless times.
If we're gonna pull out our mains I'm pretty sure the record is just the same.

If we aren't, all you have to do is look back at last night's match.
Palutena 1, Doctor Free 0.

>>135990793
Smash Bros. is just a front. It's really just trap general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcyDpfrw2ks

>>135990954
>I'm not secretly a trap though
No, you're an openly gay twink.

>he's okay though
That doesn't mean anything coming from you, jerk.
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>>135991220
Keep practicing and don't fall victim to flowchart bullshit.
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>>135991220
Practice them.
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>>135991220
Focus on one character at a time.
Specially considering all of those have very different play-styles.
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>>135991417
>Smash Bros. is just a front. It's really just trap general.

That statement is the real trap. It really is a Smash Bros. general, just moreso whenever people decide to talk about Smash Bros. in general.
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>>135991220
>bayo
kill urself my man
>palu, lil mac and villager
Practice. If you want to watch players, then see Prince Ramen for Palu and Ranai for Villager. Don't know any known Mac players.
Also try to stick with one as a main.
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>>135992036
>>135991464
>>135991431
>>135991573
Oh and assuming my lil bro continues to main toon link any advice?
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>your main
>your secondary
>your theme song
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>>135991417
You know me so well
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>>135992036
Know of any good Lucina/Marths to watch?
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>>135992552
MK
Marth
Swan lesson
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>>135993205
Pugwest
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>>135992552
>Palutena, Lucina
>Link, Marth/Roy
>I posted an autistic weebshit song last time, let's roll with that one again
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>>135992552
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Samus
>https://soundcloud.com/wendyfag/is-it-valentines-day-yet
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>>135991417
>muh tertriary beat your secondary
>if we were gonna pull out mains
Ok if you wanna play like that,
>my tertriary beat your main
Duck Hunt Duo-1, Ganondorf-0

Any other inconsistent argument you wanna spit out, trap?
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>>135993951
stream it already
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjxVfBrdlE4
falln made a video
>>135992036
Noble|Sol
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>>135994496
Idk how to stream, are pics ok?
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>>135993951
>Duck Hunt Duo-1, Ganondorf-0
>implying Ganondorf is anything but a meme character
>proud of beating Ganondorf with Duck Hunt
And why are you calling me a trap?
Earlier in the thread I mentioned how I only like boypussy and you came out of fucking nowhere.

Macfag, if you want something with me I'm sorry to say I'm not interested in Mexicans.
I'm not racist or anything.
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>>135995193
>inb4 "not my main" johns
should stream so he literally can not excuse it though
and os you both shut the fuck up
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>>135995274
>posting traps
>keeps arguing with some nignog mac main
>being this much of a shitposter

pls fucking stop and think for once
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>>135995274
>going back on the shit he's been saying constantly
>assumes I'm mexican
And I thought traps were honest and rational XD

>Dem failed ganoncides huehue
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Will I become a tranny if I start playing sm4sh?
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>>135972232
>mfw Bowser actually placing
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>>135995795
>traps
>rational
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>playing against characters who can short hop double [aerial] when you have bad OoS options
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>>135996473
Lol
Also,
>damn hoody, back at it again cheesing me, hanging on ledges like cowards do all the time, only to fail miserably XD
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>>135972232
>scatt scored second
giving the bot the representation he deserves
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>>135996967
Can't Palutena OoS jab?
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>>135995795
>talking about failed Ganoncides
>lands about 5% of the Smash attacks he throws out as Dr. Mario
Wish we still got stats like accuracy in the end game screen but I guess this will just have to do.

>>135996981
Why don't you show 'em the other three times I beat your ass?
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>>135996981
>when your /ssbg/bando fails you
>>135997238
>using one of the worst alts
baka desu senpai
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>>135997232
jab is not an OoS option, you have to drop shield first. For Palutena specifically, the only thing you can punish on shield with jab are badly spaced, -15 moves.
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>>135997238
Don't have the replays for cowards
>also bringing out the palutena incident again?
<yawn>
>oh look, stef came to watch you get your ass whooped
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>>135997419
I see. I would have thought a quick jab1 could lead into a grab for a decent punish after a quick shield. Still surprised her buffs didn't help her at all.
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>>135997526
>>135997238
>>135996981
No one here cares for your personal feud
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>>135997581
If you power shield, you can punish anything that lands beside your shield with jab with jab though. Except for Ryu's nair he gets two in one short hop and it's kinda dumb.
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>>135997881
>not a feud, just a one-sided dispute

"ever been so mad you pick his main and same costume?
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>grabbing ROB's gyro
>managing to keep him away with Thunder, Arcfire and the gyro
>shut down his camping options
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>>135997904
Makes sense there. Guess I am spoiled with a long range jab. Yeah Ryu's n-air is deceptively strong, does crazy damage for what it is.
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>>135998164
>>135997526
>>135997238
>>135995795
Settle down, kiddos
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/ssbg/ is done. Everybody pack up and move to /ptg/
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>>135998263
>gravitational pull a campy pac-man's fruit after gaining a stock lead
>run away the entire match and gravitational pull whenever he throws out a hydrant
>he SDs

What a great feeling
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>>135997369
>your /ssbg/bando
Fishy, never call me that again.

>>135997232
>>135997419
Palutena has a frame 8 jab.

>>135997526
And then I saw a Little Mac drop two stocks faster than I could SD with Charizard.

>>135998164
>so mad
If I was mad I'd just pick Jigglypuff and Stef you.

>>135998345
Don't make me pick Palutena.
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>>135998263
>get ROB's gyro with ganon
>go nuts
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>>135992552
Corrin
Bowser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D5uGBCqeiI
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>>135998480
>Tfw you make a pac-meme main salty by timing him out
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>>135998507
>lol bringing out stef on beating me, not you
honestly mate your arguments are getting pretty inconsistent and irrational, you couldn't even beat falkore, you chose to sissy out and go back to your trap cave instead.
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>>135998587
Anyone want some 3ds matches? I'll warn you now I'm not very good so you'll probably win.
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>>135998856
>>135998507
Can you two not take this to steam or something?
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>>135998943
>>135998587
Didn't mean to respond to you there, sorry.
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>>135998856
I could get more pictures but I'm not this mad about getting styled on by Wii Fit Trainer so I don't save every game.

You got my attention.
Room is up.
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>>135998856
>>135998507
Would you two be down to fight a set of 5 to determine who is the best? I'll host it. No memes.
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>tfw some jackass thinks roy has better frame data than marth
>tfw he thinks little mac doesn't have godlike frame data
why the people in ZeRo's youtube comments so fucking stupid?
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What's going on in this general guys?
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>>135999108
>>135999189
Still at work though :(
I'll let you know a room is up in about couple hours, ok chum? ;)
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>>135999395
Quality animation.
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>>135999516
>literally bitching out
Okay, pal.
I'll see if there's space in my schedule.
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>>135999395
3dsfags bantering again
no games
shitposting
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>>135998507
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>le buffed lizard mains thinking that what they're doing requires any skill
how pathetic
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>>135999651
>not having a 9-to-5 job but shitposts traps all day
O-okie-dokie pal, don't get Dead Sea salty, gonna open up a room in a few hours :)
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>>135999952
did someone get killed by an upthrow>flare blitz at 40?
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btw does anyone want to fill my throbbing hole with your big hard lobby

I want some games
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>hoody and macfag are still fighting
Jesus fuck, shut up.
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>>136000169
>shitposting all day at a 9-to-5 job

I'm mad jelly that you can sit here for hours shooting the shit while getting paid.
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>>136000243
Sure Fishy. FC is 4184-2976-0132. Just give me ten minutes, I need to get something quickly sorted.
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>>135999651
>>136000169
Here, you can both fight over this.
God knows you both deserve it.
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>>136000216
i'm just tired of fighting the legions of charizards that back air into my block all match. thankfully these idiots can't even time it properly and give me free wins
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>>136000440
Yep, host when you're back
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Real talk, who would you go for? Hoody? Macfag?
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>>136000872
Go for as in?
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>>135967483
Take this lazy edit just for you
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hi i want 3ds games

also what the fuck is up with this general, i am so used to /ptg/ not tolerating circlejerking
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>>136001062
You turned one of her feathers green nigga
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>>136001015
Who you side with based on all the bickering these two are doing and/or player skill?
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>>136001225
Sweet, let's play.
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>>136001294
whoever wins once they actually decide to stream a match
right now it's just stupid "lol i trol u" from both of them
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>>136001289
oops
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>>136000773
Can I play after? I'm learning how to play still
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>>136001294
>siding with either side in an autistic internet fight of "My dicks bigger than yours!"
I'm sorry but no. Don't encourage stupidity.
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>>136001548
Better
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>>136001372
hosting
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Just shut the fuck up already.

You're all my bitches.
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>>136001760
>pit
>straight
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>>136000169
>talks about salt
>saves every replay he can after he got fucked by Wii Fit Trainer thrice in a row
>all because "Waah, fucking ledge invincibility"
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>>136001541
>>136001674
>>136001294
>Obviously the macfaggot has a better edge than hoody
>Has photographic proof
>They still lump him with the worse shitposter in the general
4chan /b/ mentality, ladies and gents, no wonder this general is ded.
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>>136002338
It's a shame you only take off your fucking trip to samefag
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>>136002220
Delete this sinful image
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>>136002292
>once
Fixed that for you familia
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I just wanted to say, as a Bowser main since Melee, I'm so glad I stuck with him.
He's the absolute most fun he's ever been, and while not tourney viable, is certainly viable in regular, serious play.
My friend is a Mewtwo main since Melee, and he too knows this feeling now, specifically after the last couple patches.

Feels good.
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>>136003085
It feels pretty good alright fellow Koopa.
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Why are you so good holy christ
or am I really just that bad
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Hoody just fuck off, nobody wants to fight with you.

Stef exposed you
McFag exposed you.
Even I, the 3DS Guardian exposed you.

Just filter Hoody guys, and report him.

McFag, get rid of your tripcode.
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>>136003290
ur bad kid
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>>136003367
>Stef exposed you
Stef, what do you have to say on this matter?
And please, be honest.

>McFag exposed you.
Only posted one picture beating my main
I could have three of me beating his if I was that autistic.
Actually, I have one but
>BOOOHOOO TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU BEAT ME WITH ROSALINA AGAIN?
>STOP MENTIONING THE TIMES YOU'VE BEATEN ME

>Even I
You counterpicked Wii Fit Trainer with Villager, I offered you a game against my Palutena, and you bitched out.
Hell, you're not even Pame.
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Jesus christ Pher I love how you play Bowser.
You're so patient, it's amazing
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im glad i dont rely on the autists of /ssbg/ as my only means of socializing
have some self-awareness you shitposters
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>>136003772
>Stef, what do you have to say on this matter?
>And please, be honest.

Your ass got exposed nigga
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>>136001773
I will admit trying marth was a bad idea.
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>>136002458
Wrong person bruv
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>>136003772
tbqh famiglia you play extremely campy with WFT so it feels like all I ever do is chase you to ledges. I think I learned you palu well enough to beat it now. You should practice approaching more because spacing like that won't work against a Sheik or Megaman
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>>136004505
>I think I learned you palu well enough to beat it now.
Do you wanna play? I actually like playing against you.
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I did it three times
do I not learn

How long have you been playing Bowser, Pher?
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>>136004710
sure I'll host
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>>136003772


>Y-you used V-villager, that's n-not fair!

I told you that my main would rape you, you didn't listen

Did you really think Ryu was my main? fucking retard

I'm reporting each of your posts, either you get the fuck out of here or stop shitposting.
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>>136005186
>announcing reports
>>
Anyone up for them 1v1's?

nnid kinuski
fc 0404-7270-8010
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GGs Pher, your bowser is incredible. You're so patient, I keep trying to do things that normally work and you didn't fall for them

>tfw only know how to play two characters and neither work
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>>136003940
Ggs Fishy. Cheers, its pretty important to be patient as Bowser, otherwise he is left wide open.

I've been playing Bowser since Melee but only really got into playing him and Smash proper since Brawl. Neat Marthcina, Roy and Link mind and thanks for the set.
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>>136005510
That explains how you're so bloody incredible.
Is that jab to grab true, or whatever the term is, or am I just stupid?
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>>136001773
Good games, man. Sorry if I'm a bit of a scrub, my only experience is playing FG, so actually fighting on non-omega stages was kind of a curveball.
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>>136004969
I was about to say how I like playing with you because you're not a fag and the matches are never laggy but I think we'll just stick with the first point.

>>136005186
Pame, I could destroy you with my Palutena.
And when I said that, you refused to play me.

Pame, please go.
If anybody got exposed here, it's you.

>>136005741
You're stupid. DI away.
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>>136005741
Its not true but the timing to get out of it is extremely tight. Its generally used as a mixup in the neutral, either for the grab as you saw to a tilt or side-b.

If you want to get out you normally have to use an extremely fast attack before I can follow up. Marthcina conveniently has their up-b which can work. The window however varies depending on % as the higher the %, the longer your hitstun and thus the easier it is for me to follow up on it.
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>>136005941
no bully pls
>>136005948
Huh, thank you, had no idea Bowser was this good and all.
Thanks for the games again
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>>136006052
No worries, any time.
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>>136005354
Do you play Pokken?
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>>136005941
Seriously this hoody is becoming Chazo no. 2, calling out on poor fishy. And after seeing his posts he sounds like a powertripping faggot. Pame why dont you kick his ass?
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>>136006335
What is Bowser's matchup with WFT?

it seems like it'd be bad because of projectiles but, but i don't know how tough guy works, so maybe the volleyball won't do anything.
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>>136004969
Aw, GGs Stef.
It's pretty laggy and I'm starting to send out random Smash attacks.

But you're right. I should work on my spacing.

However, somebody should stop Fair-ing back onto the stage.
You did great either way.

>>136006052
What? You're pretty damn laggy.

>>136006335
>calling out on poor fishy
Fishy and I go way back.
Fuck off.
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>>135922073
COOKING MAMA
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>>136003367
if you're actually pame, and a 3ds guardian
what does that make me if ive beaten you a few times

im also sad chance, danbi, ironman, etc., don't come here enough to put these shitters in their place. at least they didn't shitpost as much.

>>136004075
>>136005932

u have some sort of pre ejaculation going on with using upb too early in recovery. plan your recoveries a little later. or maybe those were accidents. those sds were painful even for me.

i'm not used to the greninja match up and you're honestly the first i've seen who's used counter in a...vertical way? even buying the game at launch, i didn't even know you could do that with him. wtf. nice greninja, some things were predictable. (was kinda fun seeing if id hit on point when you'd use shadow sneak and seeing if i'd counter at the right moment when I used marth) and if i were fast enough, id def. punish those times you went on stage after using hydro pump. be careful. also i think you should rethink how you manage your shurikens very easy to punish mid battle.

and yeah i did play those stages bc only knowing omega limits yourself a lot. i'd suggest battlefield for your sake though. not sure what else, but you can always research which stages benefit your main the most. also do not use omega stages/fd when vsing little mac. (random info, but since you use omega a lot, i couldn't bare to leave you without saying this.)

you're ok though
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>>136006915
Nah, it's not that bad. I think we just live too far away or something.
Those were fun matches earlier though! Rosalina is really fun for Marth and Lucina.

>go way back
what
all we did was talk and you were really creepy
then you weren't even funny when I acted like a sperg
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>>136006915
So the legends are true, the saltiest player in ssbg telling everyone to fuck off
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>>136006849
Not sure on a ratio in the MU for Bowser but its relatively straight forward.

Be careful of her falling u-air, tilts, and retreating projectiles and volleyball. Bowser's objective in this MU is almost identical to villager: get up close, shield proper and get them off-stage.

Once WFT is off-stage, its Bowser's opportunity to rack up damage or keep them there. Unlike many, he has all the tools at his disposal to force a WFT out of their ledge hogging if they choose to do so. His fire breath deflects the volleyball and makes recovering a painful process for WFT. He can cover nearly all get up options with either jab, d-tilt, up-b and f-air. If WFT does manage to gain the neutral back, its important to be wary of your spacing, her air attacks and her bury jab.

I think its not distinctly in WFT's advantage, its tit for tat. If WFT can keep Bowser away to rack up enough % for the kill shot, they win. If however Bowser can hold his ground in the neutral, get them off-stage and pressure them there, he wins.
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>>136006915
Gg's. Do you ever get tired of short hop nairs?
>>
Do you guys think this will be the last patch?

Or is Sakurai gonna drop another patch out of nowhere in a month or two?
>>
>>136006274
Oh, not me, no. Doesn't look like my kind of game
>>
>Mr. Game&Watch down b doesn't absorb Greninja's water shuriken
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>>136007449
I'd guess another patch. Smash 4 is too active to leave on the shelf. We thought the last patch would be the last and look what happened.
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>>136007515
Doesn't it only absorb energy attacks?
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>>136007116
Thanks for the advice, these are actually all things I've been overlooking and now it really makes sense what I could be doing better. I'm trying to ween myself off of using Shadow Sneak as much as I do, but I didn't really think about how I could be using shurikens better.
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>>136007283
Man, maybe I should learn Bowser so I can beat Hoody more. Thank you for the info!
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>>136007568
But 1.1.4 was like "here's two new fairly unbalanced characters and no fixes for the people you've been bitching about, ENJOY!!", so I could understand having to do this 1.1.5 to fix some stuff they should not have left out.

This time there's a fair chance it stays unchanged assuming no major bugs or glitches are found
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>>136007515
It's a physical move senpai
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>>136007482
Ah, that's disappointing
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>>136007881
No problem. If you decide to look even more into Bowser, the Bowser forums on Smashboards have some helpful people who are very experienced with him and always open to giving advice. Good luck.
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>>136007639
Yeah, I just assumed >water shuriken would be-

>>136008026
God damnit, just got schooled.
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Will this overpowered piece of shit ever get nerfed?

Or is she sakurai's waifu

she shouldn't be in the game in the first place
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>>136007952
I wouldn't be unhappy if they left Smash 4 in its currrent state as its in a pretty decent condition. But fans like to think their product or game is still being supported and since DLC has ceased till maybe the NX version, patches are the only other means Nintendo can show that Smash 4 is being given attention.
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>>136008026
Goddammit, I even pre-emptively made an image in case I got a response like >>136008114
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>your main will never be good

what's their name, /ssbg/?
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>>136006849
I don't know how Tough Guy works but it doesn't stop even uncharged Sun Salutation
But Bowser has great edgeguarding tools and Flamethrower stops me from ledge camping.

Statistically, Wii Fit Trainer is Bowser's best matchup.
Statistically.

>>136007140
>all we did was talk and you were really creepy
I'm not the one who gave the other a picture of their ass.

>then you weren't even funny when I acted like a sperg
>acted
Yeah.
You're definitely not an actual sperg.

>>136007436
No.
Do you ever get tired of trying for a meme?
That one moment where you tried to hard read a roll was pretty funny.
Thanks for playing with me and not being an enabler.

>>136007881
>more
You say that like you've ever consistently beaten my Wii Fit Trainer.
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>>136008358
>always picked a main that was high/top tier
feels good
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>>136008358
tfw your main has slowly been climbing from bottom and is now pretty decent
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Sm4sh modding is a thing now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM1lcf6669s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8CPKnM9A
Finally this game will be fixed. Just imagine what may come in the future

>good physics
>no bullshit magnetic ledges
>no rage
>shield that doesn't regenerates in one second
>better AI
>Ganondorf that is actually Ganondorf in both moveset and appearance
>Samus that is actually good and has no completely useless attacks
>Bayonetta with less 0-death punish bullshit
>Sheik with landing lag
>Rosalina with less bullshit
>Jigglypuff that isn't just a joke character
>alt models that should have been in the game since day 1 like Prime Samus and OoT Link
>middleweight Mewtwo
>Link that is more of a swordsman than projectile spammer
>shiny colors for all pokemons
>completely different custom moves for every character rather than just Palutena
>characters that many wanted like Ridley and K. Rool...and thousands of shitty characters made in a single day because it's user content

Now i'm just waiting for it to spread and for people to find out how to make completely new models instead of simply editing textures and verticles.
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>>136008498
Huh, I ought to look into how it actually works

>I'm not the one who gave the other a picture of their ass.
meh, it was an older picture, not really bothered.

>You're definitely not an actual sperg.
hush, bully.
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>>136008748
don't forget
>wavedashing
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>>136008748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6S4rBH3fo
post
>yfw sm4sh-
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>>136009108
No. That physics exploit looks so fucking unnatural.
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>>136008748
E-even the Ice Climbers?
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>>136009293
deal with it nerd, it's inevitable
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>>136008358
>bad
>will never be touched by patches
I'd say that at least he can't get worse, but other low tiers getting buffed effectively is him getting worse.
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>>136009434
ice climbers were literally possible from day one, just not on poverty version so sakurai didn't want the rosters to be different
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>>136009201
>Super Smash Bros. 64 Wii U and 3DS

>>136009096
>being this insistent on picking up a character just to beat Wii Fit Trainer
Fishy, if we're judging by the last match we had, you just need to get about 70% (and a kill move) better. Or just a tipper.
Just keep at it, kiddo.
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>>136009695
>he thinks I can kill with any character
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>>136009201
That is kind of shit that gets you all tight in wrong places. Now i wish Sm4sh had this kind of hitstun.
>>136009434
Yes. Not in 8-player smash, but fuck that shitty game mode.


And Mewtwo mains, would you like this to be possible in Sm4sh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5WHmzA_CZ0
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>>136006335

Because I already did, I was the first one that started posting pics of this Faggot.

Seriously, you should report him and filter him.

Macfag is not a problem, he just needs to get rid of his tripcode when he's not looking for matches.

If I could ban people, It would be either Hoody or stef

Somebody pls contact a Janitor or a Mod.
>>136005941
*reported*

>>136007116

It's just a ruse my man. But yeah, I miss them too, only jacob and Pher are still here, but Pher is just too pure to do something

Nice to see you again, mate.
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So is Samus good now?
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>>136010616
not garbage but not great either
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>>136008134
>Rosalina is favorite Mario character and probably favorite Nintendo character
>love getting asshurt mariotehplumber-tier aspies angry by reminding them she's in the game over some shitty obscure character nobody knows
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>>136010847
Fuck you, Rundas is cool
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>>136008358
I want Lucina to be the best.
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>>136008748
BUFF DUCK HUNT'S CAN
>little to no lag using all projectiles
>wavedashing

PLEASEEEEE
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>>136010616
No. Better that in previous patches, but not good and still shitty compared to Melee and PM Samus. She still has attacks that are outright useless or just not worth using (missiles, super missiles, Up Smash, grabs in general, Down Smash, etc)
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>>136010847
>everyone hated when she was announced
>tfw hated her but ended up liking her
>tfw people are still pissed
>and she's one of the best in the game to boot

Rosalina is love, Rosalina is life
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>>136011067
is that nigga finally not sameface mcgee
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>>136010123
>get random tipper at 70%
>"Minna, miteite kurei!"
Not even Bowser can kill at 70% outside of a hard punish.

>>136010616
Her F-Tilt and Fair work now.
She does a little more damage.
She's better in the air, less floaty and faster.
Her useless Down Smash is faster, making it slightly less useless.
Her grabs are faster but dash grab and standing grab are still the only ones worth using.

I think that's it.
She's okay now, I guess.
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>>136010317
yes this is too god tier
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>>136011240
Fuck that campy character. I had enough of that shit in Brawl.


And Samus mains, did you know that Samus' shitty Up Smash is either intentional or someone just fucked up when coding it? Because this was easily fixed by a modder: https://youtu.be/htA1CtyyOkk?t=57s
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So when are we moving onto pokken general
lets go panchito/rakky/peridot/moxy
sorry not on the list guy, you have to stay
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>>136011295
No idea. I only have that image from him saved.
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>>136010847
>>136011287
There's no character I hate and also want to fuck as much as her
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>>136011471
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>>136011437
FUCK YOU

seriously though true dh mains actually go in we're not that campy at all unless you're little mac or a spammy link/samus
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>>136011383
You're forgetting who's behind the controller.
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>>136011557
About time
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>>136011471
why are pokken shields so durable
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>>136011680
>3ds
>controller
Go away already
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>>136011680
Fishy, you're not hopeless.
I'm sorry I was always so rude to you.
I know you can get better. I mean, you already have.
You massive dick loving faggot.
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>>136011608
But that's how character was designed. And why not buff everything other than projectiles? You know, to make it better without going into bullshit territory.
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>>136011437
intentional, it has leading hitboxes on the top to prevent it from working as an anti-air and sourspots that plain dont link to the following hit

her screw attack is the same way, especially the grounded version, the knockback doesnt follow the hitbox path in the slightest despite it being entirely static and only roughly approximates where theyre going to be after the launch hit meaning fastfallers and small character can literally just fall out of it
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>>136011885
Ya, just like the Wii U controller.
>>136011928
>not hopeless
>been playing since launch
>still can't kill as my main
It's fun though.
Wanna play in like half an hour?
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>>136012105
>intentional, it has leading hitboxes on the top to prevent it from working as an anti-air and sourspots that plain dont link to the following hit
Wait, if it's not anti-air and hitboxes are too high to work on grounded opponents unless they are big, then what the fuck that attack is supposed to be? As for Screw Attack, yeah, that's bullshit too, but at least it can be used to recover.
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>>136011980
it was the first thing that went into my mind
of course i'd love it if neutral air had some more knockback to it and wasn't so easy to sourspot it, general dmg buffs, etc.

i know that's how dh was made, but pls do not give us the face of fg dh's
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>>136012269
>Wii U controller.
this one?
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3ds???
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>>136011980
>want fox in melee to be more balanced
>but that's how the character was designed
fuck off
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>>136012309
>what the fuck that attack is supposed to be?
bad
just like most of her moves
fun fact her dsmash is the worst smash move in the game, killing roughly 50% later in the most optimal situation than the next weakest comparable dsmash
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>>136012690
Nah, the one with the big screen in the middle that came with the console you goose.
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>>136011703
I mean doesnt everyone have a move to break them, and grabs are good
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>>136012269
>try to be nice
>"I'm garbage!"
Sperg.

And sure.

>>136012309
>Wait, if it's not anti-air and hitboxes are too high to work on grounded opponents unless they are big, then what the fuck that attack is supposed to be?
Just that.
It's a combo tool on tall characters.
Nothing more, nothing less.

It's pretty garbage and situational but at least it isn't Down Smash.

Speaking of useless, Bomb Drop's Morph Ball jump should only be activated while airborne.
Why would I want that while I'm on the ground? I can barely follow up after it. In fact, the hitstun on the bomb is so tiny that it doesn't matter if they get hit or not.

Why does Samus even have a fucking Pivot Grab? I invite you to throw out Samus' Pivot Grab and see how useless it is.
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>>136012572
Sorry then. It's just that when people mention DHD's projectiles before mentioning anything else about it, For Shit DHD comes to mind. Same goes for Links. Not with Samus because her projectiles are too shitty to even be annoying.
>>136012871
What the fuck that is even supposed to mean?
>>136012925
Jesus fucking Christ. I don't even know what is worse - jab's 2nd attack being pointless or smash attack that is weaker than a tilt or aerial attack?
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>>136012690
That's a melee controller
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>>136013012
>anyone using that
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would anyone like to play __3__d__s__
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>>136013342
It's nice, I get to play smash while on the toilet or while watching a movie.
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>>136013552
>>136012812
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>>136013180
Yeah, that is garbage. There aren't that many tall characters and even if it hits, they don't get hit by final hitbox most of the time.

You want to use bombs on the ground only to avoid projectiles because she stays in morph ball instead of having proper crawl for that. No other reason. I miss her old morph ball bombs...It was nice having them detonate on contact. But nice things is not what we can have.

Pivot grab is what all characters have. But the real question is why Samus' grab is so slow and yet neither jab nor throws really make it worth using? Jab is fast, but very weak and none of her throws kill and DTilt is a lot better for launching opponents up for combos. And this is after Other M.
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>>136013253
it was made specifically for wii u, however
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>>136012812

o hello. do i have you added?
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>>136014175
you do. host up hunny bun
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>>136013253
>meleefags having grandchildren
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>>136013253
>melee hell
ur ded to me kiddo
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>>136013552
How does it feel that Charizard is now more viable than Ness?
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Anyone want to do dubs?

Need two.
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>>136014326

i haven't played much 1.15 yet

ness has never been viable, in the sense that only 5-6 characters in sm4sh are truly viable as solo mains
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>>136011287
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>>136013782
>You want to use bombs on the ground only to avoid projectiles
Not true. In fact, I wouldn't try that when you can just perfect shield or Zair.
Bomb Drop is good for making people thread lightly when approaching you. Specially if you have a Charged Shot on deck since it could result in a shield break or them taking a lot of damage/losing their stock.

But I guess every Samus is different.
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>>136014280
I'm not saying that's the only way to do it. It's just the only reason to ever use bombs on the ground.
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I was wondering (don't have the game yet) if I play randomly online are matches usually laggy (3ds version)?
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>>136014523
thanks senpai
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>>136014592
Coloring is relaxing
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>>136014345
host
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>>136014551
Not for me, no. Just don't have bad internet and you'll be fine.
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>>136014748

One more for dubs.
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>>136014854
Host
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>>136014551
4 player Smash is hit or miss but if you have a decent internet connection, the majority of 1v1s should be fine.
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>>136013187
yeah she was straight up sabotaged
you dont make a character bad like this on accident

for fun lets compare her dsmash to sheiks which is probably the closest to hers in terms of functionality and frame data
sheik dsmash does 9 damage, 1 less than samus front hit and 3 less than the back hit
samus dsmash also ends a few frames earlier than sheik
however sheik dsmash hits on both sides at once and has far larger hitboxes which causes it to trap and cover options far better, so lets call those small distinctions a wash

using rosalina as a punching bag (because shes both light and huge) on training mode vs the cpu, sheik dsmash will kill rosa at ~110 at the edge of fd, uncharged with shitty cpu di
at 110 samus dsmash will barely knock rosa offscreen, the back hit launches farther but still doesnt kill
at 120 sweetspot ftilt begins to kill, however neither dsmash hits will do it at this point
at 140 utilt kills outright anywhere if not teched
at around 150 the back hit of uncharged dsmash finally begins to kill, losing out to 2/3 of her tilts and having significantly more startup than any of them with the hitbox coming out frame 17
at 160, jab2 starts killing off the side (albeit being impossible to link into with jab1 at this percent)
at 185, dtilt begins killing rosa from anywhere on the stage, and the first hit of dsmash finally, FINALLY kills rosa off the side from the ledge losing out to literally every normal samus has that isnt jab 1, even uair and fucking sourspot dair kill at this point
and for extra fun, super missiles dont kill her until around 220% which is also just over when fthrow (and only fthrow) starts killing at ~195%
TWO HUNDRED TWENTY
FUCK WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS BULLSHIT
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Who 1v1 on Wii U?
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>>136014042
>tfw only use it to play PM
>>
i forgot what i was doing
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Host whenever you're ready, Hoody.
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One for dubs.
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>>136015616
Hosting.
Gonna use your spirit animal (pick related).
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>>136015046
Still here
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that was fun but can we actually play tho
It's the usual amount of lag senpai
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>>136015026
Sakurai~
But out of all of those, i think super missiles not killing is worse. They cause screen to shake in the source and they killed in Melee, but then came Brawl and crippled them. And then came Sm4sh and killed them. And i'm not gonna even bother to say anything about missiles or not being able to charge neutral B in the air like everyone else.
Seriously, why? She is just as shitty in "for fun" matches as she is in serious fights, maybe even worse since combos, the only thing she has, are nearly impossible to perform when someone can just attack you from behind while you're busy with someone else.
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>>136016346
Yeah, sure.
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>>136016472
no but really
like thanks for the arrow practice but
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>>136017316
>laggy
>FD
>Link
>doesn't want to approach
Switch to Marth.
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>Home from work
>finished cooking
>pants off
>chilling to some tunes
You still here?
Hosting
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ggs jacob, and good night.
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o-oh
it was getting worse so ya, sorry.
Was alright earlier.
Oh well, thanks for the arrow practice. Go fuck Macfag instead of bitching in the thread.
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>>136017867

ggs bbdoll

zard does seem way less laggy. i have to check patchnotes
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>>136017829
I was in a good mood but I think I've had my fill of Smash for today.
Maybe tomorrow.
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>>136018061
Bair and Fair endlag reduced by 9 frames and shieldstun increased.
All other aerials given more subtle landing lag decreases.
It's pretty great
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>>136018110

>avatarfagging
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>>136018205
Bair and Fair landing lag I mean
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>>136018205

o wow that's pretty stupendous

i realized halfway through the matches that i was being radically more aggro with zard than usual; that must be why.
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>>136018110
O-okay then
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>>136018382
There was an airspeed increase too
Fair and Bair doing more damage also make them kill like 20% earlier.
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>>136018484

Get rid of your tripcode.
>>
when is new thread?
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>>136018735
60 posts or so
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>>136018568
I know charizard kills ridiculously early now, in tournament you NEED to ban T&C/Dreamland, those low ceilings and platforms, killed my manager at like 60 with upthrow
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>>136018585
Reasons? I mean good ones

Been here for two weeks, don't get the concept of having tripcodes off[\spoiler]
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>>136018894
Not really any. It's just a meme
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>>136018894
You really have no reason to use the tripcode outside of situations where you MUST identify yourself.
Which for you is about half your posts.

Reasons not to use your tripcode are:
>other people don't like it
And that's about it.
As for why they don't like it? Well that's subjective.

It really comes down to "Do you want to be liked?"
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>>136018894
4chan etiquette.
>Been here for two weeks
Clearly.
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>>136019402
If you want to be identified you can go to Reddit. I'm pretty sure they have a place for smash just for you Hoody.
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>>136020446
Up voted.
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>>136018894
>>136019402
It's like this
4chan is an anonymous imageboard, right? Right.
In order to find matches on /ssbg/, you should have some way of identifying the person you want to play against, right? Essentially nametagging on /ssbg/ is used only to find matches, so it being used in literally any other situation is just a way to seek attention, which doesn't bode well for an anonymous imageboard.
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>>136020675
You think I don't know that?
Nigga hold that.
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>>136018894

This is an anonymous board, not your secret kids club where "HEY, I'M TYLER!" is allowed.

Promotes circlejerking

It's only allowed for matches and midgame banter.

Apparently only shitposters like Hoody, Fishy and other retards do It, while players like Pher, Jacob, IronMan and even SwatKat follow the rules.
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>>136021063
>Yell at someone for circlejerking
>Jerk 4 players
Anon...
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>>136021063
Isn't Pher an avatarfag?
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>>136021273
Yes, anyone who says otherwise is delusional
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>>136021273
No
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>>136013253
>implying the "gods" won't be 60 and still playing melee, forcing the scene to not die
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>>136021273
Gee willikers anon, why would you think that?
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>>136021939
How old are they now?
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>>135922073
fox yo
theres other characters in smash?
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>>136022078
M2K is 27, not sure about everyone else.
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>>136021242

Which players are the /ssbg/ gods?
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>>136022415
Me
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>>136022415
>/ssbg/
>Gods
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>>136022415
Me
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>>136022415
Not me, i got banned
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>>136022415
Being the king of shit mountain doesn't make you a god.
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>>136022415
Goddamn hoody my boyo
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>>136023187
Hoody, you're not even good
>>
>>136022465
>>136022483
>>136022502
>>136022669
>>136023187

So, there's no ranking list here?
>>
So G&W's down special is more powerful in smash 4 than brawl?
>>
>>136023658
Outside of me > you, no.
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>>136023583
>god of ssbg
>god of cancer
Think about it boyo
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Games anyone?
2122-7933-7145
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>>136023691
It sure feels like it
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>>136015026
And to think that it only took two Super Missiles to kill Kraid in Super Metroid, where he stood two fucking screens tall.
>>
What happened to the discord? I got kicked for like no reason, as did everyone else I knew who was in it.
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>>136025139
there's a new even more cancerous discord instead
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>>136025224

Oh good, link me.
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Why is this general so barren? Nobody posts games anymore, only shitposting and pre-school-like callouts. I thought you were better than this, /ssbg/
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>>136025376
i'm not in it anymore
>>
>>136025443
>he says as he tripfags for no reason
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>>136015046
Still here
>>136025139
Enjoy your freedom
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>>136025756
>not trying to stand out and rather be part of the anon herd
Got games, kid? :)
>>
>>136026196
What vidua is this from?
>>
>can't get games
Why is /ssbg/ so kill?
>>
>>136026375
Persona 4 Arena
>>
>>136026473
What's your NNID?
>>
>>136026473
Its a weekday and people have work or study.
>>
>>136026549
CaketotheLie

>>136026557
The multiple previous times I have asked for games I never got them
I had to result to asking people personally or playing on anthers
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General is dead, this is the last thread, everyone has moved on to better things. So long ssbg, and thanks for all the memories

Ssbg: 200X-2016
>>
>>136026703
resort*
>>
>>136026703
Wii U players are mostly in the discord now or are busy with Pokken. 3DS players are what make up the majority actively playing now.
>>
>>136026829
This isn't the last thread, silly.
>>
>>136026871
Even the discord is usually dead, I'll ask for a game and never get any replies
>>136026829
It'll die when you pry it from wozzler's dead hands
>>
>>136026997
Wozzler, the immortal host.
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>>135920654
>falcon
>overpowered

cmon now
>>
>>136026829
hey babt, how's it going
>>
>>136026997
Guess people are burnt out of Smash for a while. Get the most enjoyment out of it from my local now more than other venues myself.
>>
New thread
>>136027206

>>136027206
>>
>>136026196
It's almost as if you didn't read the posts about why people dislike namefagging
>>
>>136027173
RIP
Probably why I haven't been playing much myself these last few months
Locals are meme circlejerks though
>>
>>136026829
Word.
We should end it here
>>
>>136026997
If you have a 3DS I can play with you for a few games.
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>>136027339
>3ds
No thanks
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>>136026703
are you still here y/n

i would like to play some matches
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