/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #208

Who has best butt

coop defense is shit

always-blocking GKs is shit

>>135690191
for pve anyway, I hope they address this in an upcoming patch

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>>135690164

>>135690191

I've had it work out in my favor a couple times, a recently dead CM will come and block with the full health defender, and let me break through.

I can't imagine how horrid it is in high level pve though.

>>135690191
new patch in general is shit. all the new systems make colo even more of a slog than it was before, only whales and a few lucky people care about the ee's, club battles are completely worthless outside of getting your card frames back, and the only thing we have to show for it are some quality of life changes and new bugs.

if the next patch doesn't address striker imbalance then i'm done with this game.

>>135690630
agreed, if they address strikers and fix it so pve isnt so rng in the next patch then I'll be happy otherwise I may also be done

>>135690630
>if the next patch doesn't address striker imbalance then i'm done with this game.
They can't address things like William and IC directly because people spent money for them. They only thing left for them to do is indirectly nerf them by changing the gameplay, hack after hack, and completely fucking up PvE in the process.

how bad did backline jin get affected?

Which is better for club matches: William / Luka / Silla or William / Luka / Guin? Trying to figure out what would help my club members more.

>>135692190
depends on if you're using silla ace and if you have SC on Guin. Although the fact Silla can heal herself and recovers AB for the line is also good for club matches so I'd probably go with Silla.

Reminder that Lucid is the purest

>>135690191
>enemy kei uses his active before my action bar was full
Kek

>>135692371
I don't use Silla ace and do have SC for Guin but the healing and AB recovery with Silla is a good point. Thanks for the help.

>shitty kiki skin popping up on my loading screens
For what purpose, somebody make it stop.

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>>135693081
>shitty kiki skin
kill yourself

>>135693081
Almost all the skins are shitty
I wish we could not see all of them

>thunder girls have 2-3 skins each
>most other characters have none or one

Remove thunder

>>135693218
I'm gonna need you to explain further.

>>135693420
Kiki skin is gorgeous.

>>135693483
(´・ω・｀)

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This is why you stack pen on Bell

I have Luka, Silla, Nari, Anael, Mikael, Hildegard, Guin, and Jury (?) as potential IC users.

Which should I put it on? Who would have the biggest impact on a game with it?
I'm really bad at this.

>>135693774
>refuse to put pen on sharr
>its okay because bell has it all

(^:

>>135694013
senpai, pretty sure half those units can't equip IC. I'd put it on Anael or your passer though

>playing with denk's team
hnnng I lost though, but it's okay

Has a6012 given up? I haven't seen him in CoD for awhile

>>135694479
Did you let the enemy team rape Denk's team on purpose? Does this fulfill your dream of raping Denk's team?

>>135694013
2 options, ic backline(anael) or ic frontline(luka)

most people run it front but i like using it in the back as a counter to that, depends on the rest of your team.

>tfw Im so ready for asslad
fucking fred why dont you put her on the rotation this week?

>Connection lost
Ded game or thats just me?

Okay, so HP reduction buffs and debuffs are DEFINITELY bugged.

Club match is starting to get stressful, it is not fun going against 5 SS teams in a row with my own SS team. I am not looking forward to seeing meta CMs at all.

>>135695615
>meta CM
>not thunder 4man mids
kek

>>135695094
Well, I'm running a Silla/Luka/Sharr frontline. Hilde/Jury/Sammy midline. Morg/Magnus/Nerua/Anael backline with Kei GK.

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Why do they even care about this?

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>>135696026
>his club isn't even on the top 10 list

>>135694906
I-I didn't want to, but the other team was so alpha.

Howd this backline sound?
Anael/milky/issilia/kiki/Cynthia?

>>135696105
Cause I don't care about esports, haku

>>135696154
Easy one shot
>Milky
>Cynthia
They're better in the mid

>>135696026
>reddit club first place
It could be an /ssg/ club instead, but a6012 doesn't want to.

>>135696105
Congrats hakushit, you managed to become a more annoying memeposter than Jakun

>>135695615
thats why you let your teammate have a go

btw can you let your clubmate go first and I go last?

>>135696340
Don't say that anon, you don't want me to be even more annoying do you?

>>135696383
You can choose who fights 1st in the screen you can look at everyone's teama

>>135695615
>have sss team
>keep getting matched against B-AAA teams

i'd trade matches with you if i could, they're so easy that it's boring and it's hard to tell if my new setup is even any good.

>>135696439
Oh I see
No wonder my winrate keep dropping eventho I haven't lose once myself.
I guess someone put my team on first spot or something.

>bronzelords
Disband when? New owner now and they haven't made a move to even try and revive/maintain their meme club.

>>135696383
Does that affect your score for the club member ranking if your clubmate who goes first loses before your team? Right now I'm getting 8 because I sweep the entire match.

Is Mamuru a superior club?

>>135696717
i dont actually know the definition for superior club, but getting 6 new active members always helps

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>>135696717
No

>>135696717

I don't know, the same way I have no clue how Denk team works at all.

>>135697875
>listing mbgg as seperate from snowball
We merged

>>135698372
There's still a few remaining in there

I just got Silla, sould I replace my Nari? My striker is William.

>>135698484
All but two are inactive, and we're still working on moving everyone over

didi they say if those secondary winners skins are going to be attainable?
that nera priestess skin is pretty boss

>>135698687
they won't, they'll only show up in the loading screen

>>135698747
damn

>>135698687
That left arm is terrible though and throws off everything.

>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW which don't like the Kiki skin
wow.... just wow.... what is wrong with these people?

>>135698875
i wish i could say that they could fix it, but after seeing that kiki still has the derp face, i know i'm asking too much

>>135699101
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who likes the Kiki skin
wow.... just wow.... what is wrong with these people?

>>135699242
Still better than buttrice skin.

>>135700039
There is literally nothing wrong with the Baetrice skin.

Servers down?

>>135703186
up for me

Keep getting connection lost, what the fuck

Alright confess up people. Which ones of you tried using your clubmates' teams and lost?

>>135703574
who else but MrSharr

>>135703574
Well if it puts you up against a team of hypermaxed whales, you kinda have to watch yourself and 4 buds lose in sequential order.
It's kind of a pain when you see a hopeless match and know you have to click the start match button 5 times and let auto do its thing.

>>135703574
i got disconnected with the pass bug and it gave them a loss.

>>135703674
Yeah there should be some kind of matchmaking for this really, random chance to get pummeled is no fun at all

>>135703480
>Random maint in 30 mins.

>>135704010
I just woke up damn it

>>135704010
Hope they fix pass & shoot stat bugs. Also that pass freeze.

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I love Yuri's smile. It reminds me that some things are worth fighting for. Some airheads are worth fighting for. And it reminds me that it's okay if a girl is a bit dim-witted as long as she's cute.

>>135704331
I would bully her by smearing peanut butter on her thighs until she cried like a little bitch.

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>>135704331

>>135704331
Of course the blonde girl has dumb AI

>>135704589
>hey yuri I have a lollipop in my pants

I spent 600 crystals and 11 tickets and I got 2 5*s, both useless. Rate my luck.

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>down to 85% win rate

>>135705198
Just like my shitty weaboo team. Welcome to hell, lil esports boy.

I hope they fix the fucking HP damage bug.

>>135705618
so do I, I don't think I'll be able to last much longer at the rate this patch has gone down.

Better give us free tickets

>>135705853
200 of them

>>135705618
>put level 5~10s against kumas yesterday
>come back to see a draw in mid
Do they even test their updates?

What is the tier for unique spirits stone now post-patch?

>>135705853
s2 legend box desu

>>135705198
this wouldn't have happened if we walled off the bronzies

>>135705198
>down to 78% win rate

MRSHARRRRRR

>>135706264
>down to 50% overnight
the top 10 players are going crazy over this

>>135706390
I've never felt so self conscious about my team...

>>135705682
This patch is fucking awful. Everything but Thunder got hit really hard, makes me wonder if the devs are actually doing this because all those Thunder skins made them money.

-Metatron is hit pretty hard, you'll now just see people perpetually stuck on 80% ATB.
-Beth is ded.
-Shu is pretty screwed.
-Colo strats except for brute force (which doesn't work) are all fucked.
-Mariel is now completely useless.
-Milky RIP
-level 60 borders
-Mono-thunder got buffed (not even thunderbabbies are trying to defend how ridiculously broken they are with the coop defense stuff)
-William
-Club matches are a massive fucking letdown with shit-tier rewards

And plenty more. If I actually hadn't spent money on this game I would have quit a while ago. I'm being held hostage, h-help.

>>135705912
>God tier
IC

>Top tier
EC
Glab
SHoT
Battalion
FTS
TB

>OK tier
ES
EBM
TW
SC
PoME
Ermaltion

>Meh tier
ST
PS
PoL

>Nerfed to the ground tier
EoG
WoM
AS

.>420 tier
BE

>>135706658
>metatron hit pretty hard
>beth is ded
I fucking wish that was true, monothunder is top cancer though.

>>135706767
>we are nerfing ATB things
>we will also modify action speed in a similar way
and then they don't touch action speed.

>>135706658
im in the same boat senpai, the saddest part for me is the changes that affect pve. Been working my ass off over the past few months just to get up to 35 CoT clears and idk if I'll be able to do it again next week ;_;

>>135706886
action speed did get touched though, I've felt it particularly because I use Choi but I'm sure meiran users among others have also felt it

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>>135706658
Thunderfag, can confirm. I wanted something going Blade's way, but not like this. Not like this.

I never see so many people pissed at a single patch, I'm really worried that this might be SS's death knell now.

>>135706658
>tfw glorious monothunder
I think it's a great patch. No complaints. Keep up the good work BB.

>>135706749
BE is really that bad?

While I don't want to come off as an apologist, I'd like everyone to recall that the heal nerf patch was also really bad, and it also screwed people over, and it also made people angry, but over time they fixed most of the issues with it, and it did have a positive inpact in refreshing the metagame. Hopefully with some good patches most of the issues people are having can be fixed or mitigated at least

>>135707121
The only time you'd want a BE is when you want to use Victoria or Ronald as attackers, i.e. never.

>>135707121
It's only really usable by backline attackers to pen out

>>135707173
It is really hard to get everything right when you release a whole ton of shit at once so I hope they take in all the feedback and fix it all up over the next few patches, I'll hold out till then

>>135706658
>Beth is ded
Do you even play this game? Last time I checked, Beth active still brought everyone to 100% atb, and is still 0 cost. Beth nerfs when?

>>135706910
So many of my strats for the 4-x and 5-x levels revolved around Uriel that I have no idea what I'm going to do.

Now I know how the Latiosfags must have felt when the healing changes went through.

>>135707387
My strats for all the higher floors all involved Luka-Valkia cheese which if I'm reading correctly is dead or at the very least harder to do

>>135707173
This patch is pretty shit. They rolled out changes to address some PVP complaints but they're hiding the PVE nerfs behind it.

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Thanks bigballs...

>>135707173
This is just a business practice that is in widespread use everywhere, where you either intentionally or unintentionally make something worse and then gradually better, to give the illusion of improvement.
Personally if they take care of the basic bugs they've introduced it's mostly fine with me.
I'll be over here crying with Lelventor either way.

>>135707570
I really want this loli. Her design, her voice, her everything. I want em

>>135707689
Her voice is awful.

>>135707309
>M-muh Beth active
Fuck off. She's screwed pretty hard in pve, but you obviously wouldn't know why.

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>>135706658
I really wonder why they keep buffing thunders while nerfing everything else?

WW is hit the hardest of this patch. While William and Lucian literally will never get nerfed, Thunder gets stronger by each patch.

>>135707846
Dark got hit the hardest, what happened to WW?

>>135707513
You have to wonder if bigball even tests the changes they make to the game first, there's no way this could go live if that was the case.

Combined Defense is the biggest "fuck you" for CoT I can think of, they need to remove the shot requirements completely now desu.

>>135707309
>>135707773
>implying Shu isn't the worst Legendary now
Yeah fuck you both also

>>135707923
>dark
>hit by this patch
You mean meta?

>>135707773
She's still as cancerous as ever. It makes me glad you're buttblasted for some reason, but I hope her active gets neutered too.

>>135708140

>Orses
>Ravian
>Vitos
>every attacker ever
>all counterattack, reflex and hp strats

Dark was definitely the most fucked element by this patch.

Also, what's the difference with this update? Everything seems the same shitty thing.

>>135708065
it was frustrating enough that half the later floors are decided on a coin flip/reflex steal and now we just have to HOPE the co-op defense doesn't proc on top of all that. I am not looking forward to CoT next week.

>>135708140
Meta is fine, ravian is dead again.

>>135708206
Stop over-exaggerating, fucking victim-complex retard.

>>135708206
>orses
>ravian
>Vitos
Units that no one ever used?

>attacker nerfed
So only dark has attackers now?

>what's the difference
Indeed. What exactly are we arguing about. It is obviously thunders that should be removed from the game.

>>135708237

It's not and exaggeration, you faggot. Dark was the most affected element by this update, that was the only thing that I said and I proved my point by giving examples. If you could list the same number for any other element I would be glad to shut the hell up.

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>only One person had front/long passer
>too slow to use it
Why can't we see who we re going to fight before choosing our teammates?

>>135708312

I meant this one that just happened, anon.

>>135708357
rekt

>>135708178
>M-muh Beth active
Not as buttblasted as you over her active. Don't worry, you still won't reach Bronze+++ this upcoming season :^)

>about to pen mid
>co op from both sides
Absolutely suffering.

>>135708402
He was a William user, to be fair.

>>135708512
>implying
I've already reached champs. Next one will be galaxy.

>>135708206
Dark kind of got a mixed bag.
Ravian, Lucid, and Orses got absolutely fucked over.
All dark players can stack totems so they have to rely less on CAR totems.
Zibroi, Lilith, Vitos and Dale actually came out better because of the healing buffs and defense changes.
Dark is still shit though because their most useful units are locked behind S2.

>>135708747
the difference between champs and galaxy is having most of your team in uniques, start saving senpai

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Why the called "this" major, when "this" is obviously minor with all those nerfs?

Do any of you use 4* cards in late game?
I'm really fond of Igrit and Muriel

>>135708312
I use Vitos, shadap, and I'm fckin fuked up with that patch. Met isillia in Champs after patch and did literally 600~ damage with active pass+active shoot with crit and 175% critdmg.
Hell yeah, here we go, my mind came bacj into summer 2015 when nonbuffed Vitos did the same damage as I do today.

Celus EE with Smirk affecting all enemy team - please, bb, I need defence reduction.

Is hiro better than Beatrice now?

>>135709673
There is only Eden viable, forget about all 4* if you not rushing 4* team for CoT

>>135708748
What happened to lucid?

>>135708312
>units that no one ever used
Holy shit how can you say this and not realize that it by itself is a part of the problem? Why the fuck do you think no one ever uses them?

>>135709717
Anon, your vitos is absolute bottom of the barrel tier garbage.

>>135709802
Don't know about that guy but my lucids damage has dropped down to pathetic levels even worse then before.

Also
>200 crit dmg from solar eclipse balth pass against isillia meat shield

>>135709876
Pls, stahp, last patch Vitos was great oneshotting all those Isillias without Teranox blood.
And now you are trying to say shit from your mouth?
This patch sux, u sux too, willi-user.

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Bike shorts a BEST

>>135710050
>Vitos was great oneshotting all those Isillias
And this was balanced for you?

>>135710189
>tfw those bike shorts could have been panty shots if only there were no de-lewd-ness thing

>>135710050
Isillia's defense isn't going to drop your damage by 2k, did you remove all of your pen?
Kill yourself

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>>135710189
Pokefags know all about that shit.

>>135710334
I'm relieved. I hate the constant, cheap panty shots. Especially with sameface99.

>>135710334
It was, cause Im stuck with Keis.
Isillia, go back to PVE, there is your place, dont try PVP no more.

>tfw Ravian clean shot bug will be considered a bug and she'll be thrown all the way back into the trash can

On a side note, William is still one-shitting pretty much everything, right?

>>135710609
hard to tell since its still pre-season so not as many people are climbing ladder. Club matches have a been a mixed bag so far with how it match makes.

>>135710609
It's probably the same situation as before, zib and raklet can survive 1 shot easily.

>4 points for a win in bronze
this better change by the time the season starts. how did they fuck up so many things in one patch?

>>135709802
Not him, although all strikers are in a weaker spot right now because of the 3-man defense which sometimes pops up and GKs blocking against normal shots if they know they're going to be OHKO'd from it, it affects Lucid a lot because she's almost reduced to a regular striker in CoD now. She always had a specialized purpose for PvE and was great at OHKOing many of the 40+ floors and she was the only one who could OHKO 46 (without any active buffs, just the IC nari > Beth > active pass > shoot setup). But now that's gutted because Lucian will use his active against Lucid's normal shot.

Another annoying thing is that other strikers could just use their actives to bait the GK active, then rely on active passer/totem to immediately steal and then use assist for the second shot to finish it off, you can't do that with Lucid at all (if you try to use totem to bait out GK active, it won't work because they won't do enough damage to trigger it). So now her only special purpose for CoD is 47 to OHKO Raklet without wasting time on buffs, though that requires lots of investment. For every other floor she's pretty much at Sharr/William's level, post-patch that is, because Sharr too has been fucked and can't OHKO 43 and 50 with relative ease.

This shit shouldn't have been added to PvE at all. For people who are competitive about CoD scores (to reach certain brackets), it just adds even more RNG. Many strategies already rely on things like who goes first, or the starting action bar % of certain players, or getting a certain CA, all of this causes dozens of retries for certain floors, this patch adds even more with the retarded 3-person RNG defense.

>>135706658
Tired of this bullshit. What do you mean thunder didn't get hit?

Blade is fucked
Griffith is now fucked
Leventor is the weakest legendary striker and borderline non legend tier now

Penetration the one thing thunder used to be known for is weaker again.

Oh but Raklet finally being decent and our mid line is still strong means we got buffed. Fuck off

Metatron lines got the most major buff in the fucking patch.

>>135711079
it doesn't matter how shit blade and griffith are if your mid can keep bringing the ball to them

>>135711079
Griffith is now the strongest non legend striker, little bronzie.

>>135710929
This desu. Three man wall enjoys activating on every shot right now.

COD is a total shitshow atm

>>135690013
That is not Mave.

>>135711079
How exactly is Griffith fucked? 50% GK dmg passives are king now, desu.

>>135711568
Get a thunder striker and try shooting a WW goalie with magnus and co-op.

Magnus already made thunder his bitch before.

Griffith is still weak if anything Vitos got stronger.

>>135710929
This. CoD is a mess. A big fat mess. People who climbed earlier in the week got lucky

if you are who I think you are, please put up noa

>>135711151
Yeah except Metatron mids have been stronger and are now even better

>>135711674
B-but I always have her as ace for friends.

>>135711674
If I am who you think I am, she's up now.

Who are the best long-passers right now, is saramir any good?

>>135711952
I know you are who I think you are, thanks

>>135711971
No

Verister is decent-ish now. If she recovered more ab she'd be good. Asslad is good. Nikita is ok.

Overall long passers still arent very good because the spirit cost is too high

>>135711739
>>135711079
>Being this bronze
You mean your little Thunder mid can't OHKO Metatron and actually lets the other mid move beyond 80% action bar?

Reflex got buffed, now Thunder mids are even more cancerous, and even Thunder fronts with Leventor+Veronica.
Not to mention the Nerua teamwide totem which means you'll see 1.5k+ HP Kiki's imploding on Cynthia+Bell coop defense.

>>135712210
>Verister is decent-ish now
She was already decent, the AB change nerfed her.

>can no longer do active pass into normal shot to KO some goalies
This is lame. block goalies were buffed hugely this patch.

>About to achieve 900 D-stones
>will obviously by a Legendary waifu
>Bell, Beth or Metatron
>"Wait a second... How about Season 3? Being able to buy S2 Legendary, which means Askeladd?
Damn also this patch changed the meta in many ways, like this >>135712642
Maybe I should wait before a bit before using D-stones

>>135712740
I know I'm saving mine, need that booty

>>135712740
>>135712796
Save up those 1.8k Dstones goy. If the EE mats are any indication, the stones required won't be the same as S1.

>>135712796
>btw
>Askeladd
The fuck with that name, call her Trinity already

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>>135712996

just came back after a couple of months and see that serestia finally got her EE but is it just me or does it feel underwhelming

>>135713065
It's fine. She's usable.

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>defender in mid has 1 hp left
>joins coop defense to "help" a full hp unit
>dies
this pvp season is going to be infuriating. is reflex stacking going to be mandatory?

>>135714154

Apparently. Reflex and defense are now the most important things in this game, it seems.

They are the only ones not touched by BB ridiculous systems, anyways.

>>135714281
How is Pen?
Silla & Luka are still alive?

>>135714594
yeah they seem fine as can be

>lose for the first time in club match
>use club mates 12k team
>his beatrice doesnt crit once the whole match and does pitiful damage as result
I never knew. I heard stories but I didn't know. Beatrice fags have it hard. ;_;

Would an LG leon be enough to play play this game smoothly without any hiccups?

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>>135714716
>his beatrice doesnt crit
You don't even know how it felt fighting lucian + nerua + jin and never critting while his team has Wiliam.

>>135714594
my isillia got crit for 3.7k earlier but that was without silla ace and magnus. sad to see i can't use chitose or a dual ace this season.

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WHAT

So this just happened

>Nera in middle is dead
>I try shooting as I pen'd through
>Kei literally just glitched, flying down to Nera's spot and then going back to his normal place
>ball disappeared
>effects on screen corners continue, but match is frozen
awesome bug

>>135712440
Why don't you count how many metatrons exist in high level pvp compared to thunder mids.

Till you actually teach big boy league you need to shut the fuck up.

Sorry about that, flareneko, if you're in here. I swear I didn't MrSharr you.

FUCK HOW IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN THIS GAME WITH ALL THE CHANGES? ESPECIALLY NOW WITH BB'S RECENT "LOL WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE PLAYER WE'RE CHANGING THE MECHANIC SO NO RECALL" TREND. LIKE PEOPLE INVESTED INTO PEN LINES AND NOW IT DOES JACK SHIT AGAINST HIGH DEFENSE BACKLINES. AND PVE IS JUST GETTING FUCKING HARDER AND HARDER, NOW EVEN BORROWING FRIEND'S META DOESN'T LET MY MIDLINE MOVE, NOT TO MENTION FUCKING COOP DEFENCE. FUCK YOU BB, IT'S NOT A SYMMETRIC CHANGE BECAUSE THE AI ENEMIES ARE FUCKING ROLLING BALLS OF STATS, EVERYTIME YOU NERF UTILITY YOU'RE TELLING US TO SUCK SOME MORE DICK FOR MONEY TO POUR INTO YOUR GAME. HOLY SHIT SPEAKING OF UTILITY HOW THE FUCK ARE UTILITY STRIKERS SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING NOW. FUCK COOP DEFENSE, FUCK THE PVE NERFS, FUCK HOW HARD COLO IS, FUCK THE AB/AS MANIPULATION NERFS, AT LEAST JUST REVERT THE CHANGES IN PVE, COLO IS ALREADY FUCKING HARD ENOUGH WITHOUT YOU CONSTANTLY SHITTING DOWN OUR THROATS. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THIS GAME IS???? HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TRIED PLAYING IT YOURSELVES WITHOUT TEARING YOU HAIR OUT? CHANGING THE ART ISN'T GOING TO DO JACKSHIT FOR BRINGING IN NEW PLAYERS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE GAME SO GODDAMN GRINDY JUST TO GET ANYWHERE. WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO AND MAKE PVE LAST SO MUCH LONGER, HEALING ENEMIES ARE GOING TO BE SO MUCH CANCER NOW WITH THEIR FUCKBUDDIES BACKING THEM UP OUT OF NOWHERE AND 0HKOING BEING NERFED TO SHIT. NEW PLAYERS CAN'T DO SHIT AGAINST THE OP AI PLAYERS WITHOUT POURING IN MONEY. THIS IS THE WORST PATCH EVER, AND I WAS PRETTY MAD ABOUT THE CHARACTER ART PATCH. SPEAKING OF WHICH DIDN'T BB SAY THEY WOULD FIX SOME OF THE SLOPPY ART CENSORSHIP, WHERE'S THAT GONE. OH RIGHT PROBABLY UNDER THE STACK OF "NEW MONEYGRABBING PACKAGES THAT NOT EVEN WHALES WOULD BUY BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH SHIT DEALS."

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>135716105
I don't know what you're talking about. Sharr is still the best PVE striker and 2nd best PVP striker.

>>135716105
Our tears only makes em stronger.

>>135714905
did BB at some point commit to never changing ace skills? why is there never any indication that they're even considering nerfing Silla's blatanly OP and horrendously overrused ace skill?

>>135716764
It's overused because we need a way to protect ourselves from Williams reign of terror

>>135716863
Seriously once they will nerf William, what's next for Ardor? I mean Ardor will be really meh then

>>135717049
Erina and Victoria EE will save ardor

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This fucking game keeps crashing everytime I want to fight.

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Whats it gonna be lads

>>135717939
An Hiro

>>135717049
uhh... did Jean's stock jump with his active, considering the team blocking shit?

>>135718034
Fourth Luka I've gotten, so 3 superbs now. Game continues to want me to go mono thunder...

They shat on attackers so much. God damn.

>>135717049
>Sharr

>they nerfed Sammy's Action Bar Recovery on pass
Fuck you bigballs

>>135718858
Sammy's still plenty useful for PvE I feel

>in a dead club because was playing with friends and made club together, but they all stopped playing
>tfw not sure if should move a club, ignore the club matches or just stop playing SS overall
I haven't even done dailies in over a week now.

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KILL ME.

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Is there a more optimal way to arrange this formation, the only other good 5 star I got is hiro...also who should I extreme evolve next?

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How is it going cucks.
Is this the most "balanced" game ever yet?

>>135719529
>stop playing SS overall
Do it, improve your life.

>>135719649
Robin is trash. His "totem" never worked and now it has a different description.

>>135719529
Get into SnowGG. Join the LEET /ssg/ club.

>>135719856
Well...I don't really have anyone to replace him currently

>>135719649
>More than 1 striker
Stop. Just use Beatrice.
Replace Lucid with a crit rate totem.
Put Lynia in support and put her mid.
Remove Zibroi and Robin.
Find some HP totems for your backline. Prime candidates are Magnus, Kiki, Yuri. Nerua is also okay as a crit res totem.

>>135719649
put silla up front, only use 1 striker, lynia RM, Eden CM for now and get a proper backline

Beatrice/Evylin/Shanti
Meiran/Neraizel/VB
Magnus/Silk/Kiki/Jin
Irre

Rate my shit

>>135720313
>>135720319
Thanks

>>135720674
OneShotbyWilliam/10

>>135720674
>2 striker
dropped

>>135718638
You mean they made them better? Cause they did

>>135720674
good except

>2 strikers

>>135720928
>>135720878
What if I change Shanti for Kiki and use Aslan in Kiki's place?

>>135719820
Don't you have a game that is never coming out to shill for somewhere?

>>135721002
You should change your entire team to mono thunder.

>>135720894
>Counterattack chance raised
>CAR capped at 90%
>CAR totems nerfed
sure bud

>>135721065
>no bell
>no leventor
For what reason? It's useless without those

I'm tired of Raklets alive at 2500 HP when the rest of their backline is dead

What the fuck is wrong with this imbalanced GK

>>135721087
You forgot co-op defense

>>135721002
if you had khirel you could put him in kiki's spot and move her up front, otherwise best option is probably just to use an off color totem

>>135720674
Ditch VB, almost anything else is better. Some kinda totem that lets Nera punch holes in teams is good

>>135721245
Nerua maybe?
>>135721276
It's for Irre's chain.

>>135721167
Yes, that as well. Enjoy having to 1v2 mid and losing the ball to CM Meta who joined in.

>>135721338
>CM Meta
You mean double CM Bell + Cynthia?

>>135721332
Nerua would quite literally mean no ones going to crit against you, a good option but you may have trouble breaking out

>at ~1150 gp
>found Nerua in scout
Well, should I sell some 4*s to get there? My backline has a tentative Miho, Enthia and Marilel.

William/Luka/Silla
Yuri/Khirel/MW
Anael/Sia(?)/Kiki
Lucianirwhaevr

How to improve this?

>>135721492
Considering there's still a considerable ammount of Silla/Luka frontlines, I guess I should have no problem there
Besides Jin is quite powerful since he's hypermaxed, so I'll believe in the heart of the cards

>>135721778
>khirel on midline
>silla on backline
By re rolling

>>135721878
do you have qiyou? she has the best mono-ww ace doesnt she? you could probably run a 4 man mid if you wanted if you got her. With VB chain, magnus and Jin running a 5 man back is actually a little overkill

>>135710189
Asslad looks like Milky in her base.

>>135722481
Milky does not have boobies that big and delicious and hugable and motor-boatable.

>>135722110
I think you're right, I'll try that then, thanks man

>>135722684
Asslad is only motor-boatable in her EE.

>>135723035
You don't understand how motorboating works if you think that lad

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>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWzHf7hs5tg
>first match
>serestia trying to steal from 440 hp meta
>meta heals to 496
Apparently to BB 7,5% heal from meta is somehow bigger than 10% reduction from serestia.

>>135694614

I only have enough time to focus on one aspect of the game at a time, done with CoD for now.

>>135723426
>milky is nerfed they said
>milky is no longer usable they said
>milky counter attacking 5 times in a row is after all her accounted nerf

>>135724867
Just proves how broken she is. Nerfed what? 3 times? And still pulls this shit.

>>135724294
Pls don't leave us senpai.

>>135725265
Worse than William

>500k gold in power ups for a common stone
>went from 10 to 14
>I'm broke
I don't think I'll ever recover from this loss

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BEST HORNS EE FUCKING WHEN? I AM TIRED OF WAITING FOR ANOTHER CHRISTMAS BB.

I'd like to see club board being integrated into the chat system, so you could chat with your club more readily while playing.

>>135726437
>shanti gets an EE
>It'll be Uriel tier
Ripip

>>135726857
There is literally a club channel

>>135727207
Nobody even knows it exists. It should be integrated with the club board somehow.

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Who is this Reason titcow?

>>135727663
Updates of when someone posts in club board would be nice. Days late replies are ass especially on dead clubs and club boards.

>Never found anything above S in club matches
>Never used anything other than my own team
I'm kinda scared of running in to some hyper whale club.

>>135729036
I ran into a strong club earlier, I lost the second match against mono thunder but my club leader cleaned house with the rest of them. Based.

Will it be possible to buy Season 2 Legendary with D-stones?
It looks like cheap as fuck

>>135729394
I hope so, can't wait until they make S1 legends cost less dstones and make S2 legends cost 900.

>>135729576
That's a pipe dream

>>135729576
>things that will never happen

>>135728047
Light boss that was announced like 8 months ago and has yet to come out

>>135729576
900: Legendary S1
1500: Legendary S2

>>135730289
Why not?

And is she any good?

>>135721778
>>135721778
Halp.
Does the 1HKO build with William and Khirel in guide still work?

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>>135730495
>needing a guide for something a simple robot can do

>>135730495
the guides outdated, you want something tanky for CM like Metatron, Khirels go in the back mostly nowadays

>>135730676
Explain. Im new.
>>135730689
K. I guess i have to wait her on scout and get fingers crossed

>>135714154
this so much

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>>135718858

I though this cooperative defense thing only worked with defenders, but I was just blocked by a Meiran Meta Beth line.

I am sick of the RNG and inconsistencies in this shitty game.

>front line action bar all full
>penetrate and pass
>balls goes to lucid on the right
>randomly shifts to nera on the left before I can activate SE
FUCK OFFFFFFFF

>playing this censored piece of shit
my sides

>>135730874
that was just an example, you won't be able to scout her. Mid lines generally will stack a lot of reflex and someone to pen through with. A typical 3 man line would be something like: totem-something-penetrator. The something is almost always either a defender or an assist, something that can that is able to take a lot hits and supplement the team.

How do we save Bronzelords?

>>135731230
this

>>135731153

All players have a chance to co-op defend based on their defense stat.

Meiran in the midline has very high natural defense and she always seems to jump in to protect my CM nera. Meirans damage reduction helps a lot with co-op defense too (plus generates spirit when attacked).

Best of all they are also facing 2200 to 2500 reflex WW players if they do try and pen, and with the reflex buff they are probably going to lose the ball unless they have high CAR.

Are people putting points into overwhelming now instead of cold heart?

>>135731741
I have no idea what to do with my team after this patch. Probably going to dump everything into Serestia and take her off the bench then work on my own Meiran.

>>135731741

High defense for a leader that should say. Meiran has vitality stat on par with a lot of defenders.

>>135730440
She will likely get skill changes

So i already have William and stumbled to Sharr in scout. Should i get her?

>>135732446
>I already have Super Sharr should I get regular Sharr

What the fuck do you think

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When can I get this qt3.14?

I like how her art suggests that if you viewed her from behind, you'd get a huge pantyshot. That's a nice tease.

>>135731287
Just carry on, don't need to be center of /ssg/ club shit posting like back in the Zenchi days.

And it's not like club matches give anything useful yet. So no need for full esports.

Although if Lewdloli and MBison came back there would a decent core.

>>135733405
Disband.

Guys I'm gonna come back and play ss for a bit. You guys are saying william is op now when he use to be a joke when I played. So what stone set up do you use for him?

>>135732728
>dem thighs
>dat thigh gap
>those beautiful eyes
>glasses
Luri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yuri

Wow. Ok.

Coop defense just cost me 10 BP. I fucking hate this stupid rng crap

>>135733591
terra, crit, dribble, and thunder recieving pass

>>135733405
It's not too late to end your suffering and that of your club members, Kuropika.

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>>135732728
No pantyshots to be had here

That thunder legendary is cute

>>135733810
Spoke too soon, Sharr clutched it out for me. Still really hate the RNG coop defense shit.

>>135735518
Whoa, top lewd. What a harlot. Is that her E art or just a shoop tho?

>>135735613
She's just an orifice that wants to slob on Vann's knob.

>>135732728
the 5* player box from the clover event

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Woke up to first unique evolution, my hilde will be pleased with this.

>>135711079
Leventor is better than Shu and Duke, stop being so retarded, thunder is not shit, it is still the best mono
It wasn't only known for pen, thunder mid didn't have pen, it was known for all its stupid buffs and debuffs

>>135717049
Ardor is already meh, Willy is all its got, but Willy still needs a nerf

>>135737091
Since fucking when are Duke and Shu strikers?

Learn to read dumb ass

>>135737243
You're complaining about Leventor being borderline non legend tier when Shu and Duke are way worse

>Guy has more T.A than me
>But his striker can't kill a 2k Isillia because of her shitty heal
My goodness.

is Magnus/Khirel/Nerua/Kiki a manageable backline or should i swap kiki or magnus out for Yuri for more CAR? hes setting on 60% when penetrating

What is ass lad's chains?

>>135737552
Dildos :^)
Or probably slut-tier chains

>>135643087
>>135658660
Orses is completely useless now. Fucking blows.

>>135737481
Comparing them to strikers.

Duke still hits harder than other attackers besides another legendary and he still comes with a incredible skill set.

Shu can no longer infinite but I still use him for PVE and he is still doing good work there and there is no other unit that does what he does in that department yet.

He does need likely another look at after these changed however.

Leventor has Cold Heart which is straight up mediocre compared to Vonchi's Limitation and Determination aswell as William's God of Fire.

Leventor also still has Overwhelming II compared to William's Passion and Vonchi's Excellent Skills II.

So yes out of the three legendary strikers he is the lowest one now and Beatrice and Vitos surpass him as normal strikers.

>>135737853
But was it intended or a bug? If it's a bug just report it

>>135738024
Forgot Sharr too.

>tfw I hate thunderfags so much that I maxed a BT and Magnus
>I switch my Lucian to BT when going to sleep just to make them suffer
Truly, delicious.

>>135738084
It's not a bug, they stated in the patch notes that max hp reductions no longer function as damage but actually reduce max hp instead. Orses and Mariel are dead which is ironic because I just drew Mariel with the free ticket we got today

>>135738152
>Forgot Sharr too.
/ssg/ Sharr players are shitters. I used about 5 people who had Sharr and they had retard tier frontline and stones. A guy was using a Sharr with 15% pen for example

Just because you guys suck it doesn't mean she is weak. Meanwhile on club fights against enemy Sharr they would always do a lot better.

>>135738024
>>135738152
>Sharr, Beatrice and Vitos pass Leventor
>Sharr
I never knew someone could be this bronze

What the fuck is a totem?

>>135738363
>>135738376
A Sharr used by someone competent does.

>>135738282
Well, it does work then. Only bad part is that it won't trigger off Silla ace which is used everywhere.

>>135738405
Passive skills that help position or teamwide.

Example: Lynia whoring herself with her triple totem Siege Logic

>>135738084
It might be bug with stealing hp, but if % dmg got nerfed on top of healing buff then she's no longer viable in front line for pve.

Just shoot me. Holy shit these Keis and Raklets. They just. Won't. Ever. Fucking. Die.

I survived two shots from his william but it just doesn't fucking matter when I can never break his gk erwsga<erwgERYGHAYE%RYH>E%&AER

>>135738461
Every time I see a sharrfag here complaning, I assume it's one of the shitters I used or a falseflag.

>Enemy Sharr did blow 1,8kdmg on a Kei with active block
>/ssg/ guy deals at best 800 dmg against a Kei with active block
>both scenarios WITHOUT magnus

>>135738461
>>135738363
Anyone with Silla/Luka/striker can 2hko
Remove the Silla/Luka and Sharr would be garbage while Leventor,Beatrice, Vitos and William would still be fine
Sharr is not better than Vitos just cause someone has Jin + Magnus

>>135738231
what if they're the fabled monothunder with silla/luka/william?

>>135738683
Meant Sharr Is not better than Leventor

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>>135738712
I know that at least some thunderfags did suffer while I was sleep, enough to make me happy.
>mfw a Bladefag have to face my high CR/HP BT with Magnus

I should just stop playing this until they fix this mess. This game is just stupid right now. It makes me angry.

Today I did play with a 9,5k~ T.A monoww, it was actually good.

>10,5k ally lost
>monoww frontline wouldn't lose the ball and kept stealing and shooting at sanic speed
>when the Kirin finally did crit it would end the match
I think I got the guy 5 wins

>>135738683
Sharr would normal shot harder than all those strikers.

Stop trying to downplay her with dumbass scenarios. All those strikers do well because of Silla/Luka and they all do the job better than Leventor does unless he is shooting an Isillia likely.

>>135738363
I dont use pen on my Sharr, but I dont do it cause fuck silla/luka and i wanna be a snowflake

>>135739153
You can just admit that you haven't been lucky on draws/scout to get them, anon.

At least put Jury on frontline to improve it

>>135739137
all of them have more crit damage and higher pen than Sharr
theres a reason Sharr was only used for Jins until Silla/Luka got their EEs and people started using her with them, it wasn't only cause of Zibroi she wasn't used much

>>135739238
I used Luka as ST mats and Sillas sitting on my bench

I don't know why Leventorfags complain so fucking much. BT+Magnus+Silla ace and I have some that crit 850 on active shoot, most likely you guys don't know how to use him.

>>135739394
btw, I used to be a Kirinfag who had to face Nerua when she was released and I wasn't there crying about the elemental def.

Noticeable the "muh lev is bad" started when Magnus got his elemental def skill adjusted correctly to defend thunder/ardor, you guys are probably willy/sharr bandwagoner tier

>>135739567
>>135739394
I always said thunderfags are the worst

>>135739391
>theres a reason Sharr was only used for Jins until Silla/Luka got their EEs

Are you joking? Sharr wasn't even used with both of them at her peak. Sharr + Elaine + X and stacking EBMS.

After that Sharr was used with Silla and Luka and to this very day is STILL prominent in upper leagues if they didn't move on to William.

Sharr was used only on Jins at the end of 2014 and the start of 2015 before she got buffed.

>>135738282
My ravian is literally healing the stone match isillia to full health with just one shot. I just kept on going until gravity down reach it's maximum diminishing return.

It's just fucking impossible. What's the fucking point of her rework then? What the fuck BB!?

>>135739924
You rare probably going to need a bullshit frontline, something like Serestia+Alice with Ravian but even then, both characters are hard to get.

>>135739394
Jin + Magnus + Silla

I've seen Leventors hit for 200 - 400 damage.

Active shooting for 800 damage is fucking garbage the fact you don't realize this makes me think you're in some low ass league.

Now with Co-op defense leventors are going to be a bigger joke to Jin + Magnus or any WW goalie + Magnus and most other goalies + magnus.

>>135739890
I meant before their EEs, so before s2
She still wasn't used for much other than Jins until later, I still remember all the >ardor

>>135740062
>Now with Co-op defense leventors are going to be a bigger joke to Jin + Magnus or any WW goalie + Magnus and most other goalies + magnus.
he's not gonna be the only striker with that problem

>>135739567
>btw, I used to be a Kirinfag who had to face Nerua when she was released and I wasn't there crying about the elemental def.

Kirin had to deal with ONE type of elemental resistance. Not a goalie and an elemental resist.

Now that Lucian is around you can feel what thunder strikers have to do when fighting a WW goalie.

Not to mention WW goalies in colo just got more difficult now since co-op defense is around and they heal a huge percentage.

>>135740242
>Kirin had to deal with ONE type of elemental resistance. Not a goalie and an elemental resist.

>Now that Lucian is around you can feel what thunder strikers have to do when fighting a WW goalie.
Lucian was always around though, he just wasn't seen as much

>>135740062
Co-op def makes any striker hit less and complaining about match-up vs elemental advatange is stupid

>>135740242
My Kirin still deals good dmg when he crits and he doesn't use unique stones. Leventor and all other legendary strikers have a way better crit chance than him. And I thik CoT is the one most problematic than colo with Co-op changes

>>135740171
>I still remember all the >ardor

Because no one wanted to use Littre to evolve ardor players

>he's not gonna be the only striker with that problem

You're right. Blade is dead in the water. Griffith still does 50% more to goalies/WW. So she is in a better spot.

That is just for thunder.

Kirin fighting any Lucians with Nerura is in the same spot but Paralysis from what I have used might lead to to interesting lines.

But yea quite a few strikers need work on after this patch.

>>135739924
>What's the fucking point of her rework then?
To give her a recall obviously, because there were many bandwagonners displeased with the nerf.

>>135740481
>Lucian was always around though, he just wasn't seen as much

No. No one worth a fuck used Lucian aside from the end of 2014 and slightly into 2015.

>>135740481
>Lucian was always around though

Yes and until his EE, he was a fucking joke even for WW strikers.

>>135739924
At least they tried something with her, meanwhile they crippled Elaine to a chairwheel and left her like that.

>>135740543
At the start yes. Kirin has a stacking crit and crit damage passive so after two shots he's above most strikers and paralysis now makes him quite nice.

>>135739890
>Sharr prominent in upper leagues
She's not that common, at least when I was climbing. There were more Leventors and Beatrice up there, even in non-mono setups.

I mean, in the age of William, why the fuck would you run a striker who needs 3 shots to kill light GK whereas everyone else does it in 2, and William occasionally does it in one.

>>135739394
Thunderfags always need something to whine about. Now that their mid is ridiculous and Raklet is legit one of the best GK around, they have to move on to Leventor because he's not as good as William or Vonchi.

>>135740580
>Because no one wanted to use Littre to evolve ardor players
no because ardor was shit
WW strikers have the same problem with Lucian + Nerua, Ravian/Lucid are even more fucked than ever, I dont know about Vitos but he's probably fine, Bora might have trouble with Zibroi + Magnus now that Zibroi can heal more and then theres light strikers, they're just ded

thundercucks aren't the only ones who are gonna have trouble so stop whining already

>>135741028
Not just their mid, THEIR ENTIRE team is better with defense changes. Nerua always had the best totem teamwide for survival and it was buffed futher, on the top of it the whore's ace buff 35%hp+reflex.

So she gives 20% def/hp + 35%hp/reflex alone.

>play game
>get frustrated and angry
BigBall really, really, really fucked up.