World of Warships Admiral /wowsg/

first for everyone on NA suffers from dunning kruger

>/wowsg/ losing to WG team
>cue team shitflinging drama
>new thread immediately becomes shit thread

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>Abrach gives up on playing his NM to get air superiority so we can play our DD meta
>Abrach gets people together to play TB's, without minding our WR's or ships
>People are now shitting on Abrach and blaming him for everything
Over the fucking line. I though you were better than this Sandwich, this is real fucking low.

You don't even play TB's with us, you have not seen what we have seen and you have no idea how the full smoke meta for top 4800+ ELO works. And now you're directly shitting on one of the few good /wowsg/ players who cares about the community and actually helps out people instead of just mindlessly grinding and begging for gold.

Yeah Sandwich, fuck you.

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Sandwich ruined this general

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>>135664201
>>135664493
Is this the fastest /wowsg/ thread that has gone to shit?

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FIRST FOR VALHALLA AND THE ONLY KILL ON WG

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>>135664568
You are literally an annoying fuck. Just fuck off. I'm surprised you were even invited to that shit show.

where can i find the time table when the tb are available?

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Less shitposting, more sandwiches.

Tell me about your ideal grilled cheese.

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>>135664568
>relentlessly namefags
>avatarfags
>uses old ass meme that is only funny when its topical in literally every situation
>>135664726
What this anon said.

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>>135664726
>shit show
>surprised that mad_cuck was invited

:^)

>>135664884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllWJUvrxEY

basically this with some bacon

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>>135664884
Panini>Grilled cheese.

Turkey+Bacon+Cheese Panini is bae
>>135664983
The two are likely related

i'm seriously considering suicide because of how shit fuso is

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>>135665057
Holy shit this made me so fucking hungry and horny god dammit. Should I order chinese food or try and find somewhere to get a grilled sandwich at this time of night?

>>135662541
My pre-nerf Kiev ended up with about a 10% more WR than my Tashkent in the end.
But even my post-nerf Kiev can get Krakken if I am in top form. I basically was forced to stay close to my allies to not die horribly in my Tashkent and had to rely on others far too much.
When my kiev came up to an enemy DD, usually on a flag, I just shat all over them without taking any damage in seconds. My Tashkent however, took lots of hits from enemy cruisers that were 10km+ away from the knife fight I was having with any destroyer at any time.

The Tashkent torpedos were just not usable at short range like the Kievs were. 55kts is just laughably easy to dodge, no matter the range. the rudder shift time is literally almost double the Kiev, 4.8 compared to 8.5. You cant tell me with a straight face thats not significantly worse. thats like going from a typical destroyer rudder shift to a typical cruiser rudder shift. Also I even forgot to mention the atrocious concealment, which is even higher than the Khabarovsk/Kiev. Its just a plain bad T8 ship in every way and I still prefer the post-nerf Kiev over it. Thats not to say I didnt eventually learn how to drive it well; I ended up with a 55% WR before I upgraded to the Udaloi which isn't that bad. But I always felt like my team carried me to most victories...

>>135665374
if you've got Waffle House you could probably find a grilled cheese there

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pic related

its my username

with Doctor in the front

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>>135665583

the quote about torps in that post was about bucky's torps

>>fubuki
>torpedos were too slow if you wanted them to have decent range and better damage

so i answered about bucky's torps

as for tash, you always can use her stock torps, they are literally the same as kiev has, they are better for a last chance attack or an extremely close knife fighting

but then, 8 km torps are usable for denying capping while 4 km are not really

>the rudder shift time is literally almost double the Kiev, 4.8 compared to 8.5

did you read my post? it's only 20% worse than kiev's, 4.8 vs 6 without modules or 3.68 vs 4.8 with modules; upgrade damn hull

>Also I even forgot to mention the atrocious concealment, which is even higher than the Khabarovsk/Kiev

yet again it's completely not true
tash has better concealment than kiev, 8.5 km vs 9 km
install the concealment module which kiev cannot install

also pic related, that's with no captain skills since i didn't reset them and with type 2 -4% enemy accuracy camo

i have no idea how you grinded tash to udaloi and still spread this misinformation about 8.5 sec rudder and worse concealment than kiev and low range (13.92 km isn't a low range) etc

>>135667367
this is some grade A autism

so did wall builders just lemming train and die to WG?

>>135667959
a second time? pretty shit desu senpai

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>>135667959
No we did a different iteration of lemming train you fucking privileged player. How dare you?

>>135667959
DDs died right at the get-go and yeah. Bad game.

>>135667959
did they die like this kek

https://streamable.com/3lkd

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how do you die as mutsuki anyway :^)

>>135667959
YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!

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>all these shitters aren't getting 1k free doubloons from WG

link to vod

>>135668874
Inb4 Niko trolls us, by not Gibing doubloons

>>135668874
the two newest ones are for each match

www twitch tv zemadcroc

>>135669708
shamefur

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>missed wallbuilders
>missed this

this guy bug anyone else?

>>135670181
>>135659232

>>135670181
yes

he and his friends have been pming me for 1 week about this shit now

meantime that premium british wickes may be more interesting that i thought, she seems to have 7.5 km torps and 6.66 km concealment

>>135670508
>censored all the names

lmao wave

>>135670181
Ive been with those guys before, not bad, tho, id recommend ignoring clan cancer as much as possible

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>>135663990

>people bullying me as a meme

Please stop.

t. Sandwich

Also, yeah I shit the bed. My first 2 games of the day were team battles against wg and on my first game I was auto switched to HE when it never is. If I was able to hit the Cleveland with AP, he would have been citadeled and likely died.

I promise I will be better. p-pls don't bully

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>>135670514
Oh god I totally forgot theyve done this before. Same guy too.

Do they just like use XVM to find good players in pubs then add them to a list for recruiting?

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>>135670724
>>135670514
>>135670508
but he's a cunt

>>135670753
fuck you Sandwich, i'm so hungry after listening to everyone talk about sandwiches

>>135670691
:^(

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>>135670753

Also I'm still new to the game. If we are gonna tryhard I will gladly give up BB to someone better and run my Aoba.

I was excited that I got a tier 6 battleship and could be something other than cruiser in tb.

It's no excuse for poor play. I'm sorry guys.

>>135671054
>find good players in pubs
Sorry, I meant *find statpadders

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>>135670753
>asks people not to bully him as a meme
>in the process insures that bullying him will become a meme
guys why is sandwich so bad?

>>135671090
I literally just went to firehouse subs because of all the sandwich talk

>>135667367
No matter how much autism you throw at your posts, no one will agree with you that the Tashkent is actually good. You may have gotten in enough favorable matches to personally trick yourself into believing that its good, but you're only lying to yourself.

>>135671164
Idk about the others but I don't really care about winning

Playing cruisers in TBs sucks and I'm glad you got a chance to play the burger.

>>135671236
>firehouse subs
fugg, it's been ages.

well, i know where i'm eating tomorrow

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>>135671428

I should finally finish my Omaha grind so that I can get a Cleve and stop sitting on a DD spot.

>>135671470
cleveland is so trash though

>>135671281

apparently to demonstrate you that you were plainly wrong when you listed some numbers it's called 'autism' now

as for the rest i also give you the link about her general winrate in all pvp which is better than, say, shimakaze's and even, surprisingly, than benson's

OFFICIAL BULLY ON SIGHT LIST:

Sandwich
Greg

>>135671468
>>135671236

Megumin is best girl

Would explode inside

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>>135672094
>tfw no game where you can play an explosion witch
Playing a BB is the next best thing

>>135672507
Well, you can play DDs and hope for torp detonations

Or play the Iowa and pretend you're firing nuclear shells

>>135671642
>general winrate in all pvp which is better than, say, shimakaze's
nice confirmation bias

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>>135672507
ijn dd are really explosion witches
they cast their spells and a few seconds later ships far ahead blow up

>>135671642
Matchmaker will always make players win rates with certain ships seem higher or lower than the average since if you start winning too much, it will begin to make you lose a lot, and vise versa. I could win 10 matches in a row with a Colorado but only because I lost too many matches with different, far superior ships since it eventually just decides to put you into the same team as people with %55+ WR and an opposing team full of people with %45- WR.

>>135673047
>just decides to put you into the same team as people with %55+ WR and an opposing team full of people with %45- WR.
I mean put you up against people with %55+ WR, oops.

>>135672507
post more aqua

>>135673047
this

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>>135673371
>your carrier has a 44% winrate

>>135673047
well we are speaking about tashkent's winrate here

she has a bad rep, and i even understand why, she should be completely upgraded, hull and gfcs, have the right modules (most notably the rudder shift and concealment ones) and she mandatory should have a captain with aft, otherwise she is unplayable, but if she has all of those she is a pretty nice ship

anyway despite her bad rep the general stats show she is doing pretty well overall, not stellar but not bad either

also here is the link again
http://warships.today/vehicles/na
it's more than 52k battles for her

>>135673613
Similarly speaking from personal experience, everyone thinks I am a shitter because I never win with an Amagi and have a 40% WR with it, and it has a reputation for being an amazing ship. But I almost always pull my own weight in most matches with it, however I typically end up getting gunned down by 4 ships at the same time since my teams always lose ships far faster than the opposing.

And yet, I currently win most matches with my most favored main ships.

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>>135674156
Senpai if you can't carry and carry HARD in the Amagi you are a fucking shitter, that boat is a god.

you fucking retard tashkent is a piece of shit that is the size of a cruiser

>>135674285
keep telling yourself that

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>>135674421

>Amagi
>bad

holy moses nice meme

>>135674604
No one ever said the Amagi was bad. Cant you read? I was merely stating that if your win rate with other ships is high enough, MM will always put you on shit teams and make winning hopeless. The same goes for any good ship, if you win too much with other ships, you will get put on shit teams, its inevitable.

Also the Amagi is dogshit until you get the range upgrade for it which comes after like 100k exp

>Divving
>Strait fails to load and I CTD

T-thanks WG

A reminder from the last thread that Turks did not come from Turkey, but were in fact criminal invaders from China, Persia and Siberia who destroyed Christian Constantinople, turned the Hagia Sophia basilica into a mosque, and turned an ancient, beautiful Greco-Roman city into a wasteland.

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>>135674373
has a better winrate than benson on na :^)

also as for the ship sizes, honestly i dunno how to compare them
tash is a bit bigger than kiev... it seems, but i dunno how much bigger
the wide camera which we have in game is the source of that idea that ship sizes are off there since it gives us a distorted perspective

is there any site which lists the size of wows ships in meters or something?

>>135674604
>battlecruiser, with terrible belt armor, and shit accuracy, forced to fight at ranges less than 19km
>not shit

>>135674604
Compared with the North Carolina with concealment specs it's nowhere near as good though.

The bad average player stats for the NorCal is mostly because most people don't know how to play it properly.

>>135674924
I saw in image somewhere where someone compared the Tashkent and the Udaloi.
Basically the Tashkent is longbote as fuck and a fatty.

>>135674604
who the FUCK said amagi is bad?

It has the highest RPM of the T8 BBs. It has good speed, and the armor isn't penetrated the moment someone looks at it funny. Also the turrets are fast and have very good arcs.

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>>135674421
>>135674815
>>135674993
>the Amagi is bad
Literally one of the best Battleships in the game desu

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>>135674815
>No one ever said the Amagi was bad
>Also the Amagi is dogshit

can you read fucker

>>135674842
Are you running old mods? I've never seen any crash outside of messing around with mods.

>>135674924
>tash is a bit bigger than kiev... it seems, but i dunno how much bigger
Its a lot bigger. the Tashkent is literally a cruiser and only a destroyer in name only. Look at its stern and the shape. its the shape of a typical cruiser, not a destroyer. The khabarovsk is arguably a light cruiser as well that tries to be a destroyer, but it just isnt.

Reminder that Amagi's turrets turn faster than Mogami's 155s.

>>135675479
Just an audio mod, nothing visual

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>people tell me this game isn't rigged when i get lit on fire by Farragut 5 times in 30 seconds

>>135675557
>a destroyer in name only
>3x2 13cm main guns

It's a cruiser in SIZE only. Well, and armor.

>>135675469
yes, its the first time I claimed it was bad since all of you seem to get so offended that someone disagrees that its a bad ship. :^)

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>>135674373
>>135675168
>>135675557
>>135674924
Found the image.

>>135675914
Udaloi is already a really big ship but holy shit, thats just too big.

>>135674815
>Also the Amagi is dogshit until you get the range upgrade for it which comes after like 100k exp
what
I ground through the entire thing without ever unlocking the range module and still had a great time, it never seemed to hurt performance much

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FUSO IS NOTHING BUT NIGHTMARES FOR ME

>TEAMKILLERS
>LOSE STREAKS
>OVERPENETRATIONS
>5000 KM DISPERSION
>NO DAMAGE GENERAL
>FLOATING CITADEL

>>135675781
It's foolish to assume that small patterns wont arise in random systems

or something smart like that. basically youre a faggot calm down.

>>135676216
t. WG

>>135676265
t.confirmation bias

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>>135676110
Hey anon I've got some bad news for you: You're absolute garbage at playing BBs if you can't crush noobs with the Fusou.

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>>135670181
>>135670508
>>135671054
>About TSF

We are a community of mature PC gamers who value character, honor, and professionalism.
We are one of the oldest active teams in online gaming, having been formed in December 1997.
We are diverse and open, with members from all across the world in multiple games.
We are organized and stable, with opportunities for both competitive and casual players.
We accept players of all skill levels and help members grow at their own pace.
We are respectful, determined, and proud to be [SF] members.
We are Team Special Forces.

>statfags ruining the thread as usual

>>135675914
>>135676034

well, udaloi is actually a pretty small ship

if we use the historical data (the ru wiki has it, use google translator if you are interested) and assume the game follows them

kiev is 125 m in length x 11.7 m wide
tash is 139.7 m in length x 13.7 m wide

which is just ~12% longer than kiev and 17% wider

udaloi is a pretty small ship 116.2 m x 12 m, which shorter than fubuki (!) albeith slightly fatter 118.4 m x 10.4 m

shimakaze is 126 m x 11.2 m and khab is 140 x 13, so khab should be like of the size of tash

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Please tell me why I am so terrible in the Nagato

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>>135677076
Because you're fucking bad at the game.

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>>135676575
>people discussing the game is ruining the thread

server ded?

>>135677076
For that matter, you're also pretty terrible in Fuso.

>>135677076
do more damage and stay alive longer

>>135677159
>people calling most players shit because they didn't do as well as them with a certain ship
>not ruining the thread

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>>135677076
>500 battles with minekaze
>100 with fuso
>170 with kongo

Moses give me strength

>>135677159
Their definition of good thread is image spam and avatarfagging : ^)

>>135676265
Remember the story about the factory worker who survived the Hiroshima bombing, only to travel to Nagasaki seeking help, and got bombed again?

Did Wargaming rig his life too?

How do i into carrier?
SEA noob here

>>135677076
Fix your survival rate.

>>135677863
You press SHIFT, and then you click on things while holding ALT. Whenever you hear a torpedo alarm, press the S key five times, and the Q key once.

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>>135677076
Filename.

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>>135677863
cv players are pretty suspicious about saipan, i would be careful about buying it

but then, if you are picrelated, you dream is fulfilled :3

>prem CVs
Lord help us.

>>135678358
I got Hosho but holy fuck , i'm losing planes left and right. ;_;

>>135677395
What's wrong with playing those ships?

>>135679567
I think his point is those stats after that number of games

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Reminder that if you have a sub 60% winrate over your past two weeks of games you're a shitter

>>135680696

>t. Wave

>>135680952
no

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Also idle curiosity, I'm getting drunk rn, anyone want me to do a karaoke stream and work my way through some Frozen/Top Gun/Twift songs?

>>135680696
>tfw not a shitter

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>>135681047
Feels good man
>69% winrate over last 30 days

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>>135680696
>tfw not 100%

>>135680696
>tfw only 59.9% overall
>tfw 65.6% last 2 weeks

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HOLY SHIT

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Oh fug

>>135681760
>>135681805
did you win?

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>>135682806
Yes and we also settled the discussion of who the best player in the general is in the process.

>>135683056
>numberone.jpg

but raptor, you were #2 :^)

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>>135683237
>tfw no points for second best

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>you and your div mates are top three on the scoreboard with over half the enemy kills between you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-oDljO8nqY&list=PLpiX7EJR7luJMvBf69UmXJwCE-8BfkkOR&index=3

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>tfw bottom tiered
oh well, at least it was a W

and I got a piece of that hot ass on this fatty

>>135681191
post your IGN or else you're still a shitter

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>>135686260
http://warshipstats.com/na/player/F22xRaptor

>>135686360
>using PNG when your image is full of shitty JPEG artefacts anyway

It's like preserving mouldy bread in a preservative gel, it's still mouldy.

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>dat c-c-combo breaker

>>135687265
wow real robotnik?

>>135680696
What is the about the past 2 weeks?

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>>135687003
I didn't make it

So I was thinking. Since 60% of Tirpitz' AA is in it's long range guns, would that mean manual AA would actually be decent on it?

how is manual secondary battery btw?

>>135688685
>using shell mods that make your warship game look more like a star trek movie, without the space

>>135688783
Only worth on Nagato/Izumo/Yamato

>>135688076
100% more shit is still a pile of shit. you'd be better off getting AFT desu. more AA range as well as more secondary range

>>135687265
Kill yourself

>>135689259
>telling robotnikman to kill himself

even if you're being unironic, robotnikman would still show mercy to you

>>135689007
Good on montana. The secondaries on montana have a higher chance of fire than the Yamatos 127mm, so its like having a flamethrower strapped to the sides of your Montana

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>>135688783
Honestly not worth on any boat, MAYBE Izumo or Yamato because of 10km range, I had it on Nagato and while it was ok I hardly ever actually got to use it.

>>135689329
>self-namefagging this hard

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>>135690354
>7km range
loving every laugh

>>135690995
Secondaries on all ships are extremely inaccurate at more than 7km

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>people actually defend turret destruction as a fair mechanic on the forums

Is this what a cuck looks like?

>>135691196
why would deadpool be a cuck

>>135691196
Is that what deadpool really looks like?

llllllllmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooo stupid dumb cucks that think they're actually good at this game trying to convince everyone that they are by posting their dumb screenshots its so fucking sad watching them trying so hard

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>>135691254

No its how I feel when I see somebody seriously defend turret destruction in any instance.

>>135691281

Roughly, varies given the artist

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>>135691098
And that's why you may be inclined to take """"""""""manual"""""""""" secondaries on Yamato/Izumo. Anything else is really pushing it.
>>135691196
Because they are shitters who die like faggots anyway so it doesn't affect them as significantly as it does players with a functioning brain who don't die 3 minutes in to the game.

>>135691453
Mako seems upset

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>>135691196
>>135691453

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

>>135691580
>>>/sp/nrl/

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>>135691196
Theyre shills. Only explanation.

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Le russian bias

>>135694053
>larger range AND smaller detection range

WEW

DED HOURS

ded

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>>135694053
>worse everything compared to murmansk
>except slightly more health

>>135694053
>American ship has vastly worse AA than the Russian version of the same ship
national peculiarities my ass

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>>135696786
>russian version
It IS an omaha, it's not their "version". It was lent to Russia as part of the Lend Lease program. it was also returned to the US in horrid condition

Also, just because theyre the same class of ship doesnt mean they get the same upgrades. Marblehead's in game armament is the way it was equipped when it was first commissioned in 1924, back before navies really realised what a threat air power was going to be is what I would say if that were actually the case. However it doesnt seem she had at any point in time the main gun arrangement she's shown to have in game

Her AA armament is accurate though. 4 adorable little 3" guns for AA.

>>135697814
are there pictures of murmansk being returned

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>>135697814
Here she is in 1933. Still no such gun arrangement as in game.
>>135698002
You can see "Marblehead" right there on her butt

It's her tramp stamp.

>>135698063
>>135697814
Yeah, she has that weird third turret on the stern

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>>135698237
Well she doesnt in game

I dont know what theyre fucking smoking over there in St Petersburg

>>135698331
You mean putingrad))))))

Why doesn't Wargaming just admit they made IJN CVs the most overpowered unit in the game? When's the nerfs? Where are they? This is game breaking, unacceptable by any standard and WG sits on their fat asses and does nothing.

>>135698498
not enough data to make a decision)))))))))))

>>135698530
>>135698530
After this month of CVs, they better start having that data and rolling out changes. US Is fucked beyond repair and IJN roll entire games at high tiers. I miss the day of CV less games.

>>135698498
As a turbo shitter at playing CVs and thus representative of 90% of the players, IJN carriers are equal to their USN counterparts.

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Selling IJN flat-top lewds, 25 doubloons a pop!

>>135698814
w-why is she n-naked?

I can see her propellers!

>>135698635
Except Hiyruu and up, IJN roll US at every load out. The only option for US is to go fighters and even then it sucks. You get no XP, you have no ammo, have fun killing a squad and then having to go rearm, and then waiting a minute and 30 seconds because servicing time. IJN gets twice the squads and half the time. You can't beat that. There is zero reason to play USN ever.

I ground out all the older lines to tier 5 together before I fucked off to played some other shit for awhile.

I figure I'll bring the new lines up to parity, what's the shtick of the new boats?

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Reminder of what could have been

>>135699117
>Submarine
WHAT

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Can we remove Pensacola and put in Brooklyn class?

>>135699609
Can we remove you from the playerbase and put in someone not shit?

>>135699062
The Germans get good AP with relatively good gun handling but shit for armor.
The Vodka DDs are full gunboats (although the low tiers are pretty garbo) that get bigger guns with good accuracy but terrible detection range and like 4km range torps.

>>135699746
If I was shit I would say sure but seeing how I'm not, gonna have to say no.

>>135699186
The code for things being listed off as a submarine class has been in the game since the beginning and turns up in a few of the test ships or in the ARP commander, they're just never going to actually make a class out of it.

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Wavecave-senpai how can i be more like you

>>135700921
He skipped Fuso lol

>>135700921
>Ugly neon purple borders

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>Yamato is known to have fired at enemy ships on only one occasion. This was at the Battle off Samar in October 1944 against the U.S. Taffy 1 and Taffy 3 escort carrier groups, with rounds possibly hitting USS Gambier Bay (CVE-73). Musashi is known to have fired her guns in anger only once when she fired "sankaidan" (incendiary shrapnel) anti-aircraft shells during the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea in October 1944. One of these reportedly exploded in the barrel, disabling the gun.

>>135701504
Apparently those Type 3 shells were fucking awful, they were completely useless at killing planes and shredded the insides of the guns every time you fired them.

>>135701553
why was IJN so terrible with musashi and yamato? how does musashi gun barrel even explode after firing once

>>135701586
They were basically designed for a completely different war to the one they ended up in.

>>135701727
what war were they designed for?

>>135701829
Shooting battleships.
Not plane spam.

>>135701829
One where the US navy is made up of BBs that the Yamatos could outmatch in a traditional gunnery fight which would cripple their ability to control the Pacific, not one where they never got to shoot at anything until they were just mobbed by an endless supply of vastly superior american air power.

>>135701953
well yeah, but the gun barrel exploded after its first shot

it's like they didn't do trial and error kek

>>135701965
Sorry I thought you meant that type 3s were designed for a different war.

>>135701986
>During this attack, Musashi fired sanshikidan anti-aircraft shells from her main armament; one shell detonated in the middle gun of Turret No. 1, possibly because of a bomb fragment in the barrel, and wrecked the turret's elevating machinery
It's not like this was the first time they'd ever fired the guns.

>>135702038
Oh, those were just an example of Japan's shoddy technology and engineering during the war.

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Man, four crashes to desktop today, and I don't know if it's the Nagasaki port mod, or the smoke border mod causing it.

Couldn't get any screenshots off, but lucky I had nVidia Shadowplay turned on, I can just screencap the video. The exact moment before I crashed, and I still don't know the cause.

>>135702512

I am pretty sure it's Smoke border.

>>135702512
having the same issue and i'm on AMD. i've also been experiencing these issues this month
>can't press battle even though everyone is ready in the div
>when the score hits 1000, i have to restart the game to go back to port
>when i load in, i can't move my ship and i have to restart the game
>when i turn the camera on shell flight, it gets stuck afterwards and refuses to go back to my ship and i have to restart my game

>>135702642
Yep, StayMad here, confirming exact same issues on an AMD card with smoke-border installed, no issues without it.

>>135702642
>when the score hits 1000, i have to restart the game to go back to port
Yeah, I got this once before as well, just today.

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>>135702687
>aim assist is gone
>smoke border mod is causing so many issues

WG is actively trying to kill the game

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>>135700921
Why does he insist Kongo and Fuso is bad while doing so well in them? I can't even deal half of the damage he does consistently and it makes me sad

Rise from your grave

>>135705031
VALHALLA RISING

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tfw profintern and svetlana have 130mm guns and therefore can use aft

profintern is the new murmansk :3

p.s. as for the name svetlana, while it's a female given name, what's interesting, it's an artificial name, it was coined by a russian philologist and poet vostokov for his poem 'svetlana and mstislav' (mstislav is an actual male given name) in 1802 and then a much more known russian poet zhukovsky popularized it in his ballad of the same name in 1813, much later, after the soviet revolution, it became pretty popular and widely used as an actual given name for girls (so when this ship was launched in 1915 it wasn't an actual name then). also the name svetlana was popularized as an actual name because the first girls with that name were the daughters of stalin, bukharin and tukhachevsky, it was also recognized by the russian orthodox church during the ww2, it's derived from the word 'svet' meaning 'light' so the church linked it to the name st. photina with the same meaning

btw diana, avrora, svetlana and moskva are the only russian ships with feminine names, all the other ones have masculine names

>>135705718
Incoming tomboys?

oh, i forgot to mention, svetlana and profintern it's the very same ship

it's probably the first time when wg makes one ship to appear twice at two different tiers, diana and avrora are two different ships of the same class...

>>135705801

you know, it amuses me how americans can call their dd 'she' and at the same time name them after their known marine officers who obviously were male, all of the usn dd have masculine names just like all of the soviet dd

warship is a masculine word in russian btw

i miss my bros on eu

eric come to na and we can shitpost together

>>135706054
>languages having "masculine" and "feminine" words

Why can't all languages be logical and have none of this gendered noun nonsense? The best languages are Korean and Japanese.

>>135700921
fuso is a piece of shit, enjoy playing a kongo with bigger citadel against tier 8 ships

>>135706361
hebrew > aramaic > arabic > poop > indo-european > more poop > slavic > whatever is left

>>135706528

slavic languages belong to indo-european languages

so you basically said that semitic languages are better than indo-european... you either a happy merchant or an arabian terrorist

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>>135706794
>slavic languages belong to indo-european languages

>>135707248
are you special? it's common knowledge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

furthermore persian, greek and hindi are indo european too

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>>135707507
>furthermore persian, greek and hindi are indo european too

What modules to get for Aoba? So far its been a very meh ship for me.

>>135707864
get range on any cruiser before you get hull upgrades

>>135707917
>>135707864
Ops not modules, I meant 'upgrades'. Thinking of getting steering gear and main battery mod 2.

>>135701553
These shells sank Mustu too

>>135708412
mutsu was sunk by a samurai who was blamed by his shipmates to be a thief so he decided to commit sudoku together with them

>>135708187
>main battery mod 2

that crap makes your main guns shoot 10% slower

Can someone help me what to do against DDs in smoke when I play CV or DD? Somehow, they are always able to see me, and at the same time I cant see them. Even with sonar active I need to get within like 3km to reveal them. Last game I had one ruskie DD kill me from 30k hp in my Hipper pretty much solo while I tried to get in range from 8km to 3, at which point I saw him but it was too late.

How do I counter this? And why doesn't it work when I try it myself. What's the secret? And does anyone think this is a good mechanic?

>>135708751
>Hipper
>3km sonar

I recommend suicide.

>>135708749
My guns cant keep up with rotation of the hull. What is the point of reload being done if the guns are constantly trailing behind the target.

>>135708751
Not sailing into smoke?

>>135708973
>>135708938
These motherfuckers can reach my well beyond 10km. Should I simply run away whenever someone shoots at me from smoke? Is it a free I-win-button?

>>135708751
Just understand more about smoke mechanism. Any ships inside a smokescreen has no sight of enemy ships unless provided by his own team mates.

As a DD, dump torps towards the smoke. It's very likely the enemy DD is just chilling inside and not moving. If you are sighted due to your own gunfire, stop firing immediately.

As a CV, you want to hover your scouting planes slightly away from the smoke area so the enemy DD's AA has lesser effect. If you are feeling ballsy enough, you can roughly estimate the DD's enemy position inside the smoke and torp it.

>>135708751

you use radar :^)
well, when they release it

actually it's not nearly that good as you may think it is

>Somehow, they are always able to see me

by the same mechanic which allows you to see ships outside of your personal acquisition range, i.e. like you can see, say an enemy minekaze being 10 km from her because that minekaze has your teammate farragut on her tail 5 km from her

same stuff works for the smoke, a ship in the smoke or behind the smoke personally cannot see you just like you cannot see them, but if their teammate sees you, they share that data and allow the ship in the smoke see you just like you can see the minekaze in the aforementioned example

>And why doesn't it work when I try it myself. What's the secret?

now, why that tactics is tricky and not that good as one may think. the smoke comes in ~0.5km puffs and also it's obviously stays where you, ughm, ejaculated it. what follows from that? when you want to smoke fire you have to either dead stop or to move very slowly not to run from your smoke and also should pay attention not to leave your current smoke puff. well, you actually can move directly from the enemy leaving the smoke cloud behind you and the enemy, still should be careful about the size of those smoke puffs, so it's like you can use only your bow guns and not for that long anyway.

so, during a session of smoke shooting you almost always make your dd a sitting duck. you are prone to being torped, a lot of people love to see the shell traces and then to launch a torp wall there and that wall is very hard to avoid from dead stop. then, when the smoke ends you will be relatively near the enemy, quite possibly being seen by them especially if you just shot at them, and possibly even still with a stopped engine, this whole smoke shooting thing may end as a deadly trap for your dd; also people can return gun fire too since they see your traces, albeit torping smoke is much more effective

as for what you usually shouldn't do against a dd in smoke, it's you shouldn't come close

you are just risking to be torped, you put that dd in the position of a cornered rat and bet your ship on it, dd sees that since you approach they likely cannot freely leave the smoke and so they can try to stay there till you are very close and to torp you dead

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awww yeeee

obviously I'm not going to use my free xp as I'm keeping Nagato as a trophy ship, but it feels great being able to click the button.

>>135709580
Thanks. will radar work differently from Sonar? I still feel that target acquisition is a bit wonky

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New Mexico so comfy

>>135709819
>Wasting free XP
Just play nigga, its only 6-7 matches away.

>>135710482
I just said I wasn't in this line
>obviously I'm not going to use my free xp as I'm keeping Nagato as a trophy ship
pls anon

>>135709819
>wrong Amagi

>>135707546
>Indo-European
>Indo

Gee, I wonder what Indo could be referring to. Perhaps Indianopolis in the United States?

>>135710304
>will radar work differently from Sonar

4-6 minutes cd depending if it's free or premium consumable, works for like 20-40 sec (apparently depending on the ship?), detect ships through smoke and even though islands (lol, i hope they fix it since it's retarded) at ~10km distance for those 20-40 sec

apparently only some t8+ cruisers can pack it instead of their catapult fighter

thinking of it, a spotting fighter which sits in the sky for 6 minutes with 2-3 minute cd may be more annoying for dd than a 35 sec radar with 4-6 min cd

all the stats are a subject of a possible change

unlike sonar or a spotting aircraft it cannot detect torps

p.s. iirc german sonar works on ~5km distance so you misused your sonar if you couldn't see a ship in smoke till 3 km range; 3km it's the distance of automatic acquisition if you have the acquisition module, otherwise it's 2; non german sonar is... i dunno, 3.5 km ot so, or 4

>>135709819
grats lad, Amagi is fun as hell bote once you get the upgraded hull

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>>135712582
Amagi a shit, A SHIT. NC for life.

>>135712938
>not enjoying both of them during the grind to the real prizes of the lines
cmon man, step it up

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>>135713001
Amagi looks like a post WWI paper design while NC is a proper WWII warship. Seriously, look at its silhouette. A HOT MESS.

>>135713361
japs surely loved smoke stalks of weird shapes

>>135713361
and?
It still blows niggas out of the water better than the NC does because it's dispersion is so much better.

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>>135713424
Look at how clean and simple the initial Fuso design was.

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>>135714370
And then they turned it into this hot mess. ;_;

But Amagi is a really nice-looking bote, and there's nothing you can say to convince us otherwise.

>>135714370
what are those long stick things on her boards? are they... oars? :^)

>>135714494
Why the hell did they need to build a skyscraper on that thing?

Reminder that if your battle button isn't working properly, it's because of the mod for the Nagasaki port.

You could say that the Nagasaki port mod is fucked.

or nuked

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>>135714864
They're actually the booms and rigging for torpedo nets.

happy_goy, are you dying or can we team battle?

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>>135714885
To look at things that are far away.

Also, the Fusos and Ises had pretty much zero deck space due to the turret layout, so they literally had to stack things up vertically.

SEAtards, wanna play team battles?

>>135716257
Can't because of STAYFAG being a huge faggot.

>tfw I see vastly more T10s in my T8 games than when I play my hotel or Iowa
why god

>>135702512
>>135702687
If you guys sent a crash dump and your dxdiag it would be very helpful.

So test is up once again, but there is like 6 people

NA WG said there wasn't gonna be a PT for Russian cruisers but they're notoriously retarded so take this with a grain of salt

>>135717193
>Ever sending in crash logs

Too much effort, other people can do it

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>one of my first games back after months
>lose to these nerds
fug

Victtorin sempai, if you still lurk here come back to boats.
You are terrible at tanks

>>135717817
heh

you just got memed on

>>135717817
I am 99% certain our Yamato was aim botting.

Fuck, I crashed to desktop again.

>>135717389
>PT
?

>>135717817
You should've joined the dark side Khanate6th

>>135717817
>I'm about to be BTFO, the screenshot

>50000 free exp
>free exp the entire Furutaka
>bought the aoba

Did i do well sempais?

>>135717213
pics?
It says my account is locked permanently

>>135718684
public test

>Q. Players who spend money on the game and are willing to spend more, those who buy your products…don’t you have any plans for them such as giving them discounts, bonuses or allowing them to get new ships (or other things) first?

>A. We have some plans (for instance, by proposing personal offers, a mechanic which is being tested at the moment).

>>135719257
Implying Lo yang's HE or AP will kill me :^)

>>135719804
wasted free xp?

>>135719804
Huge fucking waste of free xp. The Taco isn't even that bad to use.

>>135719038
ayy

>>135719257
not spending the entire game hidden behind islands before going on a suicide run because they destroyed most of your turrets

On the topic of free xp -

should I use mine for skipping Baltimore's stock grind? Or is Baltimore shitty regardless?

>>135719903
>they might finally give me more stuff for being a massive good goy and blowing all my dosh on their games
truly my greatest ally

skipping stock of any ship is the only correct usage of free xp

>>135720325
>not skipping to tier 10 and do 10k average damage
It's like you hate playing the game :^)

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>almost every time I try to play my Kutuzov now the game crashes in the loading screen
>finally get in to a match like 5 minutes late and I get 2 shot
>uses up my 1.5x

>>135722828
>I get 2 shot

the pleasure of being double penetrated? (:

dead

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>spend so much time dealing with getting focused by both of the enemy T10 CVs I end up getting more plane kills than main gun shots fired by the end of the game
It's like I'm really sailing a Yamato!

>>135724090
this japanese guy looks well fed

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>>135724090
Could be worse

>WG finally getting around to addressing the fuck ass annoying citadel AND module damage sounds

Do you think WG is gonna make any additional balancing changes besides the addition of radar/Russian cruisers in 5.4?

>It's another episode of "tier 9 battleships sitting in base, realizing that all the caps have been stolen, and then gunning it to 5 knots only to run into the nearest iceberg"

Would giving the ships that have torpedo nets the ability to use them make the DD spam at high tiers more tolerable?

>>135725157

one cannot use torpedo nets sailing 30 knots at the same time

they were used when a ship was moored/stationary

also dd are still underpowered

>>135719257
>playing a game about ships
>implying crossing the T isn't a viable tactic

:^)

>>135725759
and yet they still cause everyone to stay as far away from the enemy team as possible because nobody wants to try to make it through the 5 shimakazes worth of torpedo walls covering the entire map

>>135725759
>high tier BBs
>sailing 30 knots
So perfect for the current meta!

>>135726226
it's the reason why they introduce radar

though imo it's silly since cv are already more than enough to negate enemy dd almost completely

cv is such a stupid class

is this game fun ? I did not play since closed beta but my friend who used to play after beta told me that there is some addon which shows you where and when to shoot and it is ruining everything

Shima needs a concealment nerf, radar will do nothing since shima has no need to get up close in the first place.

>playing the frontline in my Iowa, but my team is so far from any of the enemy ships I'm still the front line at like 17km from the nearest enemy, and there doesn't even seem to be more than 2 of them on this side of the map
>I get spotted and in the time it takes to get 2 salvos off I get completely melted by what must of been streams of fire coming in from 7 ships, none of which ever get spotted in the entire time they're pouring fire into me
uhh, what
well at least I learned why nobody wanted to go within 20km of the nearest enemy ship on what looked like a completely empty side of the map

>>135727270
wut

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Here's a cool fact about the Battleship Roma: its towr had two sections, containing a large coincidence rangefinder each, that could swivel around.

>>135727231
your mom needs a concealment nerf, seriously

>>135726661
but radar does nothing because it doesn't do anything to stop the half a team worth of shimakazes sitting at the back of the map shitting out walls of torpedoes all over the map every 2 minutes, the gunboat DDs that actually have to get within some kind of gunnery range to do anything aren't the problem but they're the one that are going to get punished the most

>>135726957
your friend sounds like a shitter desu, aim assist was never a game ruiner unless you just sailed in straight lines everywhere and never tried to dodge anything, and it's been dead for a little while now with no signs of the mod author getting it working again

Any SEAfag here can confirm if paypal works when buying doubloons? WG keeps rejecting the transaction but I somehow still get charged for a dollar.

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>>135713361
Ink blot test mode.

I saw two tanks, then zoomed in and realized they were planes.

... tanks would be neat, though pointless.

>WarThunder-Ships having tanks drive around on ship's hulls, firing at enemies, with mobile AA platforms keeping Wellington-water-heaters, and YER's at bay

>Enemy Ship takes hits and starts sinking, it's compliment of tonks flailing about the non-submerged half of the ship as it slowly angles up Titanic style and the Tonks lide into the water, like penguin to a whale.

>>135727413
idk, I'm just rambling by this point I guess, I've just never seen my T9 BB get completely 100-0'd in like 30 seconds without ever spotting any of the ships shooting at me before

>>135727662

>it doesn't do anything to stop the half a team worth of shimakazes sitting at the back of the map shitting out walls of torpedoes

you pop radar when you spot torps and you have a good chance to see a shima nearby too

but generally it's hard countered with aircraft

>and it's been dead for a little while now with no signs of the mod author getting it working again

the free one
there are 2 or 3 different paid aim assists which are active right now

>>135727852
>without ever spotting any of the ships shooting at me

zao invise firing? or something like khab/udaloi smoke firing?

>>135727662
Doesn't matter, Shimakaze is still thw worst performing TX DD. Shima can shit out a wall of torps but the wall will usually get spotted regardless. The same thing applies for DDs, unless you're completely dumb and showing broadside to the general area where a DD will be, you'll either have enough time to sail past, or make adjustments.

>>135728257
The vodka one is the worst

>>135724317

with this 5.3 aa change myogi seems to have a bullshit strong aa for her tier, aa rating 20... and wyoming has it even better, 25 rating, both of them far surpassing tier 4 cruisers (kuma 9, phoenix 14)

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>>135728257
>Doesn't matter, Shimakaze is still thw worst performing TX DD. Shima can shit out a wall of torps but the wall will usually get spotted regardless.
and?
they can go an entire game without ever hitting a single torpedo but when there's so many of them that the map is just filled with torps and nobody wants to move anywhere near the enemy team they're still having a pretty fucking huge effect on the game regardless of how little damage they're actually doing

>>135727440
The French tried that, too.

It was a shit setup, more than one big rangefinder on the mast apparently caused more problems than seperating them into fore and aft, or fore, aft plus another one on the conning tower like the Germans did.

>>135728992
Kabob has the highest WR for TX DDs across all servers, what the fuck are you even smoking?

>>135729249
Another problem with Speedslut stats
When there so many of them in they end in tanking their stats

>>135728052
it was a T9 game where the only two T9s on the enemy team were a Fletcher and an Ibuki, there was one area of smoke on the entire map at the time and I assume that was the enemy Fletcher powering rounds into me but the rest of them were just firing in completely open water without anyone spotting them and I have no idea how

>>135729426
And yet is so popular 90% of the DDs at tier10 are either Shimakaze or Gearing, which are also more dangerous

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New Mexico is bae

>>135727671
bump

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>>135730013
Newbie here. Just got the B hull and the engine upgrade, and got this. Damn, cruisers showing their broad side at 9km should happen more often.