Etrian Odyssey General

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Neat.

[Class Introduction] Fencer
>Fencers are dodge-based attackers. Their specialties include deftly dodging enemy attacks and performing joint attacks alongside their allies. They can be used as dodge-tanks or as joint-attack specialists. (Komori)
https://twitter.com/SQ_kouhou/status/710987410490793984

So I guess they're combining Landies and Ronin? Could be cool.

ps I want to violate Quona

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>>135662479
I want to lick Fencer's armpits!

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Fencer pits or Reaper pits?

>>135662479
>They can be used as dodge-tanks or as joint-attack specialists. (Komori)
Oh hey, I needed a tnak for my secondary party
>remember everything about specialization
Oh right, it will be either/or

>>135662479
>Fencer is dodge tank
Then what are bunnies?

>>135662479
>They can be used as dodge-tanks
Time to name my Fencer Dunban

>>135662742
Glass cannons.

>>135662479
Still not using one. They sound too generic.

>>135662790
But I don't want my bunny to break whenever something looks at it wrong.

>>135663049
>not breaking your bunny yourself

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>>135663049
Too bad.

>second lowest Vit

>>135662742
>Then what are bunnies?
breeding stockpile

>>135663049
Then get your bunny a jealous girlfriend that won't let anyone even look at her.

>>135663185
BROWNIE STRONK

>>135663185
Oh my god, the bunnies a mother material.

>>135662479
https://twitter.com/joujinakata123/status/706269902940704769

>>135663185
I bet they're not letting us use the cute motherly bunny.

>>135663185
>Fast, strong, good hp, low vit
>Rock bottom intelligence.
Dummy bunnies confirmed for damage higher than they can count.

Shame it doesn't seem like we're going to get a medic that can fight on the front line this time.

>>135663706
>If one sword is 100 power, and two swords is 200 power...
>Then four swords is 400 power!

>>135663809
>Then four swords is 600 power!

>>135663706
>>135663809

They're still more intelligent than Arianna, so I'm fine with that.

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>>135663964

>>135663706
At least they can still fight, with that INT.

>>135663964
Arianna's just intelligent enough to suck cock, and that's enough for me.

>>135663049
I don't think equipping a sword in every possible slot gives you much survivability.

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Untold 3 when?

>>135662637
I'm going to use that reaper and call it a girl and you can't stop me.

>>135662637
Fencer of course.

>>135665983
Hopefully never. Don't understand why anyone would play these, preset characters is the antithesis of the genre.

>>135666224
Why would anyone want 3 Untold for the story mode?

>>135666224
>Implying that people actually want EOU3 for the preset characters

We want EOU3 for it to improve on all of the original's flaws.

>>135666995
I can understand that, but wouldn't it be better to just make a new game instead?

>>135667139
We're already getting one.

>>135666224
If you don't want to play story mode, don't do it.
I can enjoy both modes.

>>135666868
It's fun

>>135667296
The time spent on a remake would be better spent on making a new game.

>>135666224
I just want a redone soundtrack and animated fights, mang

Should I replace my medic with an arcanist?

Just beat Hollow Queen.

>>135667139
No, because there's no guarantee that the new game would be superior to the previous one.

>>135667437
Remakes don't take nearly as much time as a new game, that's why we got two in a row before a new game.

>>135667616
So you'd rather they just keep putting out remakes instead of trying to make something better?

>>135667483
Yes, they're fun. You'll have some difficulties until you get subclassing though.

>>135667778
It's not like there are a bunch of games to remake. It's literally only one.

>>135667852
Any way I can quickly get em up to par without using the training thing?

Kill sheep?

>>135668080
Why wouldn't you use the training thing? That's literally what it's made for.
But yes, sheep are a great exp source for a good while.

>>135668080
Sheep work. But when not use a training item? They will become useless by the time you finish the next dungeon.

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I need more bestchemist art

>>135667778
There's nothing wrong a remake now and then.

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>>135668291
In that case I'll just use it then. Thanks

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>>135668335

Hey, uh, is this the right place to go for Etrian Mystery Dungeon advice? Or is that better suited to a proper roguelike thread?

I have more trouble with EO3 than EO1 and 2 now
how is this possible

>>135668507
Yeah except Atlus for the last couple of years has been nothing BUT remakes

>DeSu1 and 2 3DS
>P4 golden
>Soul Hackers
>EOU1 and 2
>Odin's Sphere(though it is actually vanillaware)

>>135668812
It's fine if it is EMD

>>135669238
I'm fine with it as long as it gives them enough money to make P5/SMT5/whatever else

>>135666224
Shut the fuck up, EO3 deserves a remake, nobody fucking plays them for the story mode. We're getting EOV already so there's your new game you little bitch. Now accept your incoming EOU3.

>>135671034
EOU4 when?

>>135671398
Next year

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>>135668564

>>135669734
Is L/S/P/M a decent team? I'm concerned about how easily I'll be able to do elemental damage without a Runemaster. I don't know how well the Elemental Arms skills work.

>>135662479
I fucking love rapiers.
They're so elegantly sexy.
Best weapon in dark souls.
I love that this is the parry based class.

>>135672653

Sovereign's elemental arms are bugged and makes its STR buffs permanent if you cast one while another is still in effect. Gonna have to be careful about that if you don't want to end up cheesing things.

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>>135674196

>>135666052
I get you mang. My EO4's twintail landsnecht was a girl and no one can convince me otherwise

>>135674194
Wait, what the fuck, really? That seems like a pretty glaring oversight.

So would the basic idea be "cast the Arm on the Landshark and let him do the elemental stuff", then?

>>135677504
That's not the only bug either. The princess will often dodge her own buffs.

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>>135669069

What problems are you having? And who is your team?

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>>135677957
My problem is that none of the lovely ladies in this image are real, that's my fucking problem

On the note of EOU3, how would they make Warrior's Might less broken?

>>135679604
Cap the followup attacks to a certain amount

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War Revive!

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>>135681434
Delete this.

>>135677957
I can still manage so far but Narmer gave me some trouble. I'm using Hoplite/glad/arbalist in the front and monk/zodiac in the back. It'll probably get easier when I unlock subclasses I guess

>>135682720
>arbalist in the front
Anon, I know that Front Mortar looks neat but you have wet tissue on the front line.

>all this talk about EOIII
I should pull out my copy and start fresh. Need to beat the true final boss one more time for that incredible theme. Best final boss theme of the series, accept no substitutes.

>>135684264
>Best final boss theme of the series

Nah, this one is. It's the only boss that has his own theme and not reused from another boss

>>135686125
Oops, I deleted the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MggkJEIDSDg

>>135686125
Abyssal God also has its own theme.

>>135686125
>only boss with his own theme
Found the guy who never got the true ending to III. Abyssal God had his own theme, which was hype as fuck. Posting for reference.
https://youtu.be/LPvBxglPNRI

>>135686812
I know the theme, it's just been years. For some reason I thought it played during the progenitor fight.

>>135686812
Wrong link; here's the right one.
https://youtu.be/U_0TeykT5NA

>>135686125
EOIV boss has his own theme too.

>>135683996
Yeah that was my main problem against narmer, my arbalist kept dying to his multi target attacks so I had to spam heals constantly. In retrospect I should have gone with a second gladiator with an arbalist or buccaneer subclass

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slow day

age

>>135671398
I'm ok with this too, but maybe for the next handheld?

It was great while it lasted, that burst of news and speculation. But now we must all embrace kaishaku. [TL: Kaishaku means death]

https://youtu.be/hXnRbH2a9pk

>>135700148
You lost all your TP.
As well as your items.

>>135703739
And ten thousand squirrels spawned around you, and you want to pet them all.

>>135703664
This is bad video. For what purpose did you show it to me?

>>135706224
Megwin's a gem. Show some respect.

Is there any Exp difference if I fight the dragons in Casual in EOIV? I'm currently training my retired team and I got them all to Lv50 with sheep grinding. I killed the Great Dragon with ease but I'm not sure if the Exp remains the same as in Normal.

>>135662479
Fuck, these V classes are sounding better and better. I'm going to have a hell of a time making my first party.

>>135662479
>ps I want to violate Quona

delete this

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EOV's website updated a little.

>>135663641
I'm going to be so sad when we don't get nip audio and I can't make a Nakata loli.

>>135715887
I wish we could pick generic portraits.

>>135716017
I wonder what they're going to use 8 generic portraits for. Usually you don't have all that much interaction with nameless NPCs.

Do I need to be unarmed to use fist spells with Monk in EO3?

Seems to kinda suck since the weapon attack with unarmed is so smaller compared to when using a good club

>>135716250
Probably nothing. Just generic promotion material to say "hey, we got races".

>>135716665
>since the weapon attack with unarmed is so smaller compared to when using a good club
I believe there's a bug where you can still equip a weapon and leave the next armor slot empty to get the weapon's atk power.

>>135716819
so you can still use fist attacks?

>>135716743
That'd be a huge waste of some seriously cute designs.

>>135716890
That's what I've heard, but I never tested it out myself.

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Currently putting together a team for U2 expert mode.
The catch is, i'm only going to use classes available in vanilla 2. So no Highlander or Princess.
What classes do you guys recommend?
I was thinking something among the lines of Ronin, Beast, War Magus, Gunner and Survivalist.

>>135715887
Looks like they're seeking players that have a lot of EO play time for some kind of event in April.

>>135717031
Maybe swap out Gunner or Survivalist for a class that can land ailments, or the WM won't reach their full potential.

>>135717150
So drop the Survivalist for a Hexer?

>>135717219
Yeah, WM & Hexer is still an good combo, though not as crazy as it was in the original.

>>135715887
>Necrololi
I just noticed this character has swords in the bottom of the coffin.

What?

Golden Lair is such an unfun, tedious dungeon. I just want to be fi ished with it so I can get Bushi, retire my party, and move on to more exciting things. I'm having a hard time even getting myself to play at this point.

>>135717548
>tfw you don't mind the Golden Lair at all even on new playthroughs

>>135717426
You mean that blade coming out of it? It kind of reminds me those shields with a spike that you dig into the ground.

>>135711049
Exp shouldn't change, but can you even switch difficulties in IV? I could've sworn you couldn't.

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>>135663185
I want a guild full of dumbass bunny waifus.

Can someone explain me those Zodiac's profecy spells in EO3? Are they just better than Hoplite's anti-element spells and only require 1 point to be fully effective?

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>two Wild Wings
>successfully blind them both
>they both use Beaked Rush
>they both wind up getting both hits anyway
>everybody dead except for my Hexer

>>135722123
Pretty much. They just need a higher base skill point investment.

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What's a good subclass for Gladiator and why?

>>135724659
IIRC I subbed mine to Arbalist for more accuracy on Nine Smashes.

>Returning to EOU after being spoiled by 2U
>Trying to get a half-decent Action Boost grimoire
>Have a whole page of guild cards with grimoires with no skills other than a full Action Boost
>All characters at level 97 with all skill points spent
>Still can't generate anything better than the weakest grimoire size
Am I missing anything that gets this esoteric bullshit on my side? Will I at least have a chance of generating a better grimoire from one of the cards if I keep resetting?

>>135724659
>>135725479
I remember doing the same.

Also, I've started EOU recently and didn't see any skill simulators for it. Anywhere I can find data on skill levels?

And if not, do you guys have any tips for my team? They're around lvl 32-33.

I got:
Ronin
Has all the elemental attacks and I've been leveling the 4th stance.

Protector
Front Guard and elemental guards.

Dark Hunter
Whip skills, maxed poison attacks and I've been leveling bind-attacks.

Troubadour
Almost maxed HP-regen and TP-regen songs. Maybe that duration extending one next?

Hexer
Fear skills and Suicide word almost maxed, maybe atk & def debuffs next?

Also this is my first time posting in this general

>>135724659
For postgame shenanigans, notoriously, Shogun. For normal play, aforementioned Arbalest or Bucc for limit boost. Or Ninja if slot 6 is free.

>>135728423
>Anywhere I can find data on skill levels?
The moonland wiki. Run it through google translate if you need to.

>Get to bottom floor of Golden Lair for the second time
>Healer out of SP, no healing or SP items
>Just want to break the big lava scale so I can leave and then make the tedious trip back to do the fight
>Accidentally initiate the boss fight
>Fleeing NEVER fucking works
>Spend three turns trying to flee only to get a game over because fleeing is shit
I want to die. I hate this fucking dungeon. It's like whiever designed it had some vendetta against players and wanted to make the most unfun dungeon possible.

>>135729510
Golden Lair was a bitch the first time, but then on every playthrough afterwards it seemed incredibly short.

>>135729510
>tfw I still don't have any problems with the dungeon

>>135729510
It's your fault if you got in a boss battle.

>>135728423
>do you guys have any tips for my team?
Action Boost on everyone

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>>135729510
>>Fleeing NEVER fucking works
Weird, because the only way I had to solve the puzzle was to bruteforce it. Destroying the scales and then running away from the Boss.

>>135728423
The coming bosses have big whole party nukes and you'll eventually run into a 'Cyclone' that's non-elemental. Rear Guard can be really handy because your Ronin going down will hurt you less than losing the healer.

>>135724659
If you don't mind grinding Agility books, buccaneer for Pincushion. It'll do ridiculous damage with little to no set-up.

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So guys. Just beat EO 1's main story. and I'm not sure whether or not I should do the post game. So far I've reached the -27/28 floors and it seems to be a bit too much trials and errors for my tastes.

Is it worth the trouble? Because I wanted to play the EOs in this order: 1->4->2U->3 . And it seems that EO1 and EO2 postgames are relatively uselessly tedious compared to later entries' ones.

Should I keep up, drop it and get back to it later or just forget about it? I've seen that the builds necessary for dragons for example are maybe too specific and I'd like to beat the postgame without using walkthroughs.

>>135731278
except 30 whole skill points to get to level 10 pincushion

>>135730684
I've been somewhat ignoring Rear guard, but if it becomes useful then I'll put some points into it.

>>135731749
since you only need to finish 2 more floors, why not?

>>135728423
>Dark Hunter
Focus on getting Ecstasy before maxing the Bind whips. Even a single level will do good damage.

>Protector
You're pretty much good at your point in the game, but near the end of the 5th and start of the 6th stratums, you'll want Bravery's Gift and Parry maxed. They're some really good clutch skills.

>Hexer
I never bothered with Fear much in my playthrough, but extra binding for triggering Ecstasy, Relapse Curse for extending ailments (since you can't reset ailment resistance in U1), and Petrify Curse (which is ridiculously good and will one-shot a ton of enemies once maxed). The ATK/DEF debuffs don't scale well, unfortunately, so you're honestly best keeping both at level 1.

>>135731845
It's the only attack you'll need, though. I meant during battle.

>>135731749
why are you playing the original eo1 instead of the remake

>>135731749
I say this as someone who's completed both 1's and U1's post-games: 1's 6th stratum is unfun junk, and you shouldn't be forcing your way through it if you're not having fun. Floor 29 is several levels of hell worse than 26–28. I never played the original 2, but U1's and U2's 6th stratums are pretty fun. Bullshit, but fun.

>>135732078
Do you still get the exp and loot normally if you petrify the enemies? Some other game didn't give anything for that so I've been a little hesitant to use it.

I was thinking earlier that Bravery's Gift is a pretty interesting skill, might try it.

>>135732640
Yup. No penalties. It's really useful against random encounters against single enemies that have tons of health, too.

>>135732345
Maybe he doesn't have a 3ds

Are Ninjas in EO3 useless damage-wise until you get Katanas?

>>135733023
Fuck I just got one from finally getting the Mother Dragon conditional drop, but damn it would make my Ninja much stronger than current other party members, the Katana costs 4-5x times as much as other weapons, feels like cheating

>>135733023
If you're building them to Kubikiri machines, the amount of damage they deal per hit doesn't matter too much.

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>>135732345
I've begun my playthrough 4 years ago. Fought Fenrir around this time, picked it up once more two years ago and beat Cernunos around this time. It's only been 3 weeks since I got back on it once more and I beat the rest of the main game these past days. I don't have the courage to start once more the first game, remake or not. But I'll get it in a more or less distant future. So maybe I should let the postgame for the remake so I have an additional reason to play it?

>>135732634
You confirm pretty much what I feared. The 10 level penalty for resetting a character induce too much grind in the first game and if the next floors are even less interesting, dropping it to play 4 wouldn't be too farfetched.

>>135731971
Trying every teleporters to find out that they are all traps but one, is not exactly good level design. And that was the -26th floor. 27/28 relies on falling in holes to find your way.

>>135733516
So you liked B26F? Then you'll love B29F

Did the Miiverse change it's format? I can't find an option for taking a screenshot of IV anymore.

How do these sites such as skill simulator and atwiki get the numbers for skills, exact FOE weakness multipliers, etc? Do they look at the game's code?

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So i'm starting a new playthrough of U2 classic and my party is Highlander, Princess, Ronin, Survivalist and Gunner.
How should I build my skills?

For Highlander I was going to acquire Bloody Offense early on before focusing my efforts into Spear Assist and Delayed/Cross Charge. Is it worth leveling Draining/Legion Thrust for taking out groups quicker? What about stuff like Turning Tide, Bloodlust, Battle Instinct, Blood Fortune, and Allied Bonds? Are they any good?

The Princess is simple. Leveling up the various Orders first because she's my healer, while putting some points into the Link Orders for damage when I need it.

Ronin is also simple. Just working my way up to Peerless combo ASAP. Should I go after the elemental skills as well?

Survivalist will focus on dishing out ailments as well as damage, but is it worth putting points into the Speed Up tree? I know you can do some clowny shit with Scapegoat + Illusion Step but i'm not sure if it's worth all the points.

Gunner will focus on reaching Point Blank + Burst Shot ASAP with a Curb Atk grimoire for the binds.

>>135735274
There was never one.

>>135735657
But it used to be you'd open up the miiverse and it'd take you straight to a page where you could either make a journal entry or take a screenshot. Or does it only do that with games that have "communities" there, and I simply never noticed it wouldn't work with IV before?

>>135735905
The later. They're crappy like that.

>>135735569
>Is it worth leveling Draining/Legion Thrust for taking out groups quicker?

Not that worth. At level 1 it's still good enough to chip the enemies so then you can kill them with something weaker.

>Turning Tide

It's cool, but not necessary.

>Bloodlust

Can backfire if the enemy has a counter skill and you have Bloody Offense active.

>Battle Instinct

Can be a life saver, but don't put that many points into that so early.

>Blood Fortune

Not that necessary.

>Allied Bonds

Really damn underwhelming, even at level 10, and I remember it not working sometimes for some reason.

>>135735274
>>135735905

You can only do that with EOU2.

Are Monks useless in EO3?

Unarmed damage is awful after the second stratum, and you need to be unarmed to use their attack skills

Supposed to be in front row but cannot equip heavy armor or shields, also have very low HP

So basically they're just healbots like Medics in EO1/2

>>135736462
They're healers

>>135736462
They give the most healing, so I don't know why you'd call that useless.

>>135736571
Yeah but even medics in EO1/2 could deal some damage specially with caduceus

I thought this class was cool at first being a healer with so many attack skills that are pretty shitty damage sucks

>>135736687
Just a little while ago people mentioned the armed monk bug. A Breakfire Fist monks deals pretty good damage.

Odds: Story
Even: Classic

>>135736982
Dodged a bullet.

>>135736864
How does it work?

>>135737076
Read the thread nigga.

>>135736982
How is the story in EOU? I went straight to classic mode, but I'm curious if it's any good.

>>135735561
The people over at Something Awful are finally digging through the code to get the exact numbers, but before that, it was all trial and error. The thing is, even if it wasn't completely verifiable back then, the Japanese players' testing methods were so good that they either had the exact values or near-exact values anyway.

>>135737351
I found it pretty fun, more than EOU2's Story. The characters aren't as intrusive, so I liked it a lot. Also, the exclusive bosses are pretty cool.

>>135737351
Very low quality. It'd be a pretty poor story to see in a regular RPG. You get shunted along the same route (genocide mission, etc) even though it hardly makes sense for the story characters to agree to it.

>>135737351
It's not particularly incredible by any means, but passable and inoffensive. The only character I really liked was Raquna, and the rest were just alright.
I'm more peeved at the story-exclusive shit like the classes, bosses, weapons and dungeon than the story itself.

>>135736462
For main attackers, maybe, and you'll be healing mostly anyway, but I had good fun getting marginal extras out of them via Blitz Command. Subclassed to Hoplite for shields and antis it's front row medic plus interesting passives

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>46 turns to defeat Beserker King with just a smug Fort and a smug Dancer
Finally.

>Name your cafe
Aaa

>>135740361
Regina's
_ _ _ _ Cafe
Starbucks

>>135740361
Guild name is Alcyone so I named it Starlight.
Kinda generic-sounding but it rolls off the tongue well enough.

>>135740361
Fluids Cafe.

>>135740361
Deergarten would have been the best name but it's 10 letters instead of 9

>>135740361
I just called mine Lolipiss.
I regretted that name later.

>>135717548
I don't really think there's any stratum I don't appreciate in some way.

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>>135741789
why regret though

>>135741938
Please don't tell me that's real piss. It sure as hell isn't the piss from a cute loli because those unfortunately don't exist in real life.
If it isn't, I'd drink it to see how it tastes.

>>135741938
At wanted a silly name, but it became unfunny by the second stratum.

>>135742235
It's probably apple juice. That's the closest juice that tastes great and resembles pee.

>>135742456
But that's not even a funny name.
Something better would be naming the guild Cuckold and then naming the cafe Birch.

>>135716665
Late reply. Yes, you need to be unarmed to use Monk Fist skills. The glitch the other anon explained is like this: leave first slot empty and put a weapon in the second, Monk will still be able to use fist skills with the increased attack of the weapon.

If you somehow manage to obtain Narmer's rare item early game (and get enough money to buy it), you can equip it to the Monk for big numbers of damage with Breakfire Fist.

>>135721647
Yes, you can change difficulty in Options but only when you're in Tharsis. Very useful to fight against dragons at low level to grind Exp and drops.

where the fuck do I import this collectors edition

>>135749728
http://www.play-asia.com/sekaiju-no-meikyuu-v-nagaki-shinwa-no-hate-collectors-pack/13/709w9n

>>135749898
>$135.99
Jesus. I'm glad I preordered it early.

>>135749898
I suppose this collector's edition won't be available in the west, will it?

Why don't FOEs give exp in EO2? What was Atlus thinking?

>>135743272
>Birch

>>135752939
It is pretty much bullshit. But on the positive side, EO2 does have the smoothest level scaling because of that.

>>135751721
They did the Persona Q collector's edition, so maybe. Do we know if this is the full art book? I wouldn't mind not getting it if it guaranteed the full book being localized by Udon and not delayed over and over like the SMT IV book.

>>135753542
That's because they love Persona. They almost don't give a fuck about EO.

You know the Luminous Bird FOEs on Petal Bridge? Is their Brutal Ray move an elemental attack, or is it completely typeless?

>>135756917
Almighty

>>135756917
Pack bombs.

>>135757582
Ah, okay. Thanks.

>>135757678
Damn, I forgot those were a thing. I don't think I've used them since the first stratum.

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Honestly, fuck these dark room puzzles in Hall of Darkness. It's so fucking tedious to walk 30 spaces back through the incomplete path you discovered every time because you got teleported back.

>>135760645
What youre team look like?

Is there a way to turn dragons gold in EOIV?

>>135760645
A tip, anon.

Check the poison tiles room, there's a clue there.

>>135760645
Those rooms are the ultimate idiot trap.

So what's the Gunner skill priority in 2U? Get Burst Shot/Penetrator?

In EO3, how much does each elemental forge on armor reduce the damage taken?

>>135762263
Charged elements, Burst Shot, Point Blank, and Double Action

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>>135761079
>>135761261
Wow I'm a goddamn idiot. Been through 2 dark rooms already and never even made the connection.
>>135761005
don't understand how this is relevant, but:
L/R D/N F/I
M/A S/N

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I'm the anon who posted here
>>135731749

Last call guys.
I drop the postgame of EO1 so I have still things to do in EOU1 and get on EO4? I have the 3DS and EO4 and EO2U? Starting with 4 should be better difficulty wise, right? I don't have the EOU1 yet, but 4 -> EOU2 -> 3 seems a good order right?

>>135763668
Nobody cares

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>>135763668
>I have the 3DS and EO4 and EO2U?
It was not a question.

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>>135763829
okay.

>>135740361
Himukai's

>>135763668
Go 3 → 4 → U1 → U2, that way you'll appreciate the QoL changes and you won't feel weird for missing the newest features.

>>135763298
>L/R D/N F/IM/A S/N
You could have a pretty rough time fighting the super boss, especially if your team isnt 99 retired.

Outside of blatant cheaating,t heres no way to have a team of lv99 retired party members to turn into lv1 party members with all the retirement benefits, is there? E04, i've gotten pretty tired of grinding the superboss for drops so im considering just starting "fresh" with a team that I can have till Ig et to the superboss again.

>>135765303
I believe you can rest them a bunch of times until they're level 1, but I've never tried it.

Quona smut when? It's been a whole few hours or so.

Can level 1 Artery cover my healing needs long enough until when I get Ailing Slash and Vampire up?

>>135765472
No, he can't, because if he retires a Lv99 team and then retires them in Lv30, they will all lose the Lv99 benefits.

Remember that the bonuses depend on the level you retire at that moment, doesn't matter if they reached 99 first.

>>135767070
but he's saying rest, as in reset their skill points rest

>>135767070
I said rest, not retire. Resting takes away all the skill points so you can reallocate them and also removes your subclass, but not the +10 or the extra skill points.

EO3, retiring at level 30, yay or nay?

>>135767591
>retiring before level 99

>>135767845
It was worth it in EO2, idk then

>>135767373
>>135767369
Oh, my bad. Then yes, that's entirely possible.

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Ok, I need some help with a Lv99 retired Fortress-D. She's Lv60 at the moment and I believe I got all the skills that matter defensively. Pic related, including Master Fan Dance and Lv1 Quick Step.

What now? I'm thinking on spending to get Holy Smite, Burst Saver and maybe Rampart. Any help? I still have 40 points to spend after getting to Lv99 again.

What is the best binder of EO3?

>>135770585
Farmer, I believe? Has a skill with a chance of binding completely, if I recall correctly.

>>135770461
>taunt
>auto-taunt
They are kind of useless now that you are retired and 99

>>135770786
It's not like I will miss those points considering she's going full protect. I just don't know what else to spend on, maybe a point in Refresh and Freedom Waltz also but that's pretty much it.

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Can she take it?

>>135762608
anyone?

>>135776189
Ricky can stretch a surprising amount. How else do you think she takes Highlander's spear?

>>135776189
>>135777606
I'll defang you

>>135777792
Not if I remove your sarashi first.

>>135778068
Whoa there, please don't get so lewd.

>>135764772
Okay seems understandable.

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Someone got a promotion.

About to fight Queen of the Skies. Any vague hints on how to fight her?

>>135781378
Don't let the battle drag, each time she uses her powerful party-wide attack it gets more hits.
Party-wide fear on the first turn, so come prepared for that.

>>135781378
Fear resist

>>135781559
>>135781569
Neat. Birdman said something about her cry inducing fear, so I'm all set for that.

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>>135662479
[Class Introduction] Dragoon
>This game's tank class. Unlike previous tanks, because they can use guns, they can use both offense and defensive skills with their gun and shield.
https://twitter.com/SQ_kouhou/status/711374083896659968

>>135785226
>Unlike previous tanks[...] they can use both offense and defensive skills
Who is writing these?

>>135785403
I meant to include it in the post sorry but I'm not 100% sure on if that's what they were saying, or if these skills "combined" attack and defense capabilities.

>>135785628
Well, it certainly isn't common but beast also has a couple of skills like that.

So, I'm guessing Harpuia is weak to lightning? I can't really tell if the hitspark is any bigger.

>>135737514
Yeah, it's not like story mode actually takes a moment to address how fucking crazy of an order it is, or elaborates on the circumstances of the forest folk to explain why you're still fighting them despite not seeking to exterminate their kind.

>>135778068
delete this

>>135788389
>deleting the sarashi
Anon what the FUCK

>>135738232
>35 turns to kill the Hollow Exile and Hollow Rambler
I don't know if I can say this is working or not.

Yo, what is the best EO out these days? I haven't played since 3, but it seems like untold uses preset characters?

>>135793669
Untold 2 is best. And 5 will likely be better. Only story mode uses presets. Classic is the same as always.

>>135793669
Untold 2, and no, that's only for Story mode, in Classic you still make your own.

>>135793669
Untold games give you the choice of making your own team or using their "story" team. U1 fucked up a number of things, but U2 addressed pretty much all of them. If you feel like getting back into the series, I suggest picking up by release order where you left off: 4 -> U1 -> U2.

>>135793885
>>135793889
>>135793904
thanks guys

/eog/ is truly the friendliest general

Are EO4 classes better than EO3 ones?

>>135795259
Yes

Imagine if a Fafnir Knight was trained as an Imperial.

You'd get the big damage and the many damage at the same time.

>tfw I fell for the Front Mortar meme

The damage isn't even that good and the TP cost is ridiculous

>>135795259
More OP yes.

>>135795259
On the whole I'd say they're less interesting, but Arcanists and Imperails make up for it.

i heard awhile ago that eo3 was coming to wii u on virtual console
was i rused?

>>135798820
Yes you were.

>>135799105
darn
that would have been cool

>playing EO2, feel like I need a tank as usual
>Teach is a bitch and the brown girl looks like a slut
I just wanted little girl adventures

>>135802054
>Not being scared of the medic
They have fairly large damage in EOI.

>>135802587
Only if you get that 1 strong skill.

>>135802587

Only if you make a battle med with max Caduceus. Panicked characters will only use the basic attack anyway.

>>135803310
>>135803414
Didn't their strength up skill give a much higher boost than any other class?

red pill me on Shoguns, I've just unlocked them

what are they good for? are they like Ronins?

>>135803947
I don't really know, once I got past the initial difficulty spike I kinda coasted through until post-game.

>>135803668
I think so. But again, that only matters if you get that skill. And is it even enough to pose a threat in that situation?

>>135804014
Also give me 2 good names for a male shogun and a female one

>>135804229
Ieyasu
Inahime

>>135804229
Bagel.

>>135803668
It was like 100% or some other ridiculous bonus compared to everyone else hovering at like 50%

>>135671034
Please calm down

>>135805213

Even then, their attack is still incredibly low. Combat med's basic attack with Warhammer, 10 in Attack Up, and no Str accessories is about on par with Protector's basic attack equipped with Duergar and no Str accessories.

Caduceus will be the real source of damage, and that will not happen while they are panicking.

>>135796123
use dark ether and double action

>>135733023
If you're using ailments, the only Katana they need is the LUC one, though you won't be able to use knife specific skills with one equipped, which is why Shogun/Ninja is better than Ninja/Shogun for instakill shenanigans, a Shogun can sub Dagger of Mercy while wielding the Luck Katana to get a chance of instant kill while still being able to do damage with their skills and use any combination of knife and katana skills, and then still be able to try to get instant kills with standard attacks if that proves necessary.

>>135785226
>camo pants
Fug.

>>135785226
I wonder if that means they get some kind of Overwatch mode where they counterattack against targeted allies, or if it's just a combination of Protector and Gunner skills depending on whether you use shield mastery or gun mastery. If they're going to be tanky frontliners, I hope they have some kind of Point Blank ability to take advantage of.

>>135735569
Honestly I'd go Survivalist reclassed to Hexer. Hexer would compliment your party more and Survivalist base has the highest AGI in the game and can still get 99 LUC with the right equips. Best Hexer in the game.

>>135795259
They're more generic and straightforward.
Also none of them sucks at what they try to do.

First time playing any of these games, I'm playing 3 because everyone loves it

Any tips?

>>135821140
Kick it in the ass.

>>135821140
Check skill simulator for numbers when leveling skills.
I played it to the last stratum, but can't remember anything worth mentioning now.

And regarding that, which EO has the most infuriating final stratum? I've completed EO4 and that wasn't nearly as bad as 3 had.

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>>135822014
Claret Hollows.
Cheap encounters. Cheaper ambushes. Disastrous puzzles.

>playing 4
>decide to do new game + with my full retired 99 team rested down back to level 1
>make sure they all have capped book stats
>give them all their signature armor
>give them all the best overall accessories I can get them
>give them all nearly fully forged yggdrasil weapons
>fast forward to red bear
>return to count to let him know since I cant pre kill it
>take up mission
>go to go back to the labyrinth
>"I can let your guild go fight the red furred beasts looking liek that! go see the guild meister!"

Nigga really? Nothing survives the first turn of auto attacks, I take at most 3 damage from gold enemies, nothing will start hurting me until I get past the third map. Fuck outta here.

10 save dess

>>135826925
I want to put my fist inside her uterus and then pump ferociously.

>>135821140
set aside a party of farmers and give them combat study so you can level them a bit and then actually be able to fucking gather stuff
im fucking glad they never carried this over its fucking retarded

>>135733023

>ninja
>using katanas

I have bad news for you.

>>135822480
Cut them some slack, the NPCs don't know you're a guild of superpowered time travelers.

>>135826925
no ass

>>135833620
So perfect.

Hello,

I'm new to the licence, starting with EOU2, coming from PQ. I find the e-manual very lacking, especially to know which pictogram define which ailment.
Could you point me to a good ressource for those simple things ? Thanks!

>>135834860
From left to right: petrify, fear, curse, sleep, panic, paralysis, poison, blind, head bind, arm bind, leg bind.

>>135835417
Thanks, that helps a lot.

>>135834860
The ones which I imagine wouldn't be obvious at a glance would be:
>Curse
Scarlet with a skull. You'll probably catch on VERY quickly that it's a bad idea to attack while this is inflicted on you.
>Fear
Purple with spokky gosts. There's a chance you'll lose a chunk of TP instead of acting, which is bad news.
>Panic
Pink with that sort of dazed spiral. Anyone inflicted with this ailment will randomly use a standard attack on foes and allies alike.
>Petrify
Grey with a stony rhombus. Functionally, it's the same as death, so watch the fuck out.

The rest are pretty much what you'd expect - Eye for blinding and very diminished accuracy, ZZZ for sleep and no actions for a couple turns or until hit, and so on.

>>135839570
MODS!

>>135835884
I was more asking about the icons on the monsters details, but thanks anyway!

>EO3 doesn't keep track of all unlocked items in the senatus like EO2 did

How am I going to know if there's some gear unlock I missed?

>>135846630
Love those eyebrows.
Is that the same artist that does the EO3 comics?

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>Idling in EO2U
>"Hey! Hey, Trand!"
>"Trand?"
>"..."
>"Traaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaand!"

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There is literally a Gamestop fifteen miles away from me that has a copy of EOIII for $15. Kinda tempted, even though I'm only halfway through IV and won't finish it anytime soon because I have so many other games.

Think I should hold off?
>inb4 3 Untold is coming out

>>135850750
Just beat IV.

>>135843436
Only EO2 had the item list check.

I guess Japs didn't liked it because this feature was removed from all the games after 2

>>135850915
Yar, I probably should.
In that Golden Lair which other anons were complaining about. I'll admit, it's not the most engaging labyrinth.

EOU Jap wiki says that Taboo Rondo is bugged in a way that leveling it from 9 to 10 just ups its TP cost instead of giving it an extra turn too. Is it like this in the western version too?

>>135854017
I don't even know what Taboo Rondo is. Is it a King Grimoire skill?

>>135854017
Yes, that bug is even in the EU release.

>>135857701
cute, CUTE!

>>135857701
THICK

>>135857701
But where's the armpits?

>>135857701
I'm going to eat this clover

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>>135857701

Kill Fencer, use her as necro assets.

>>135857701
Perfect drawing ruined by sagging blobs of fat.

>>135859593
I agree

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The fog in these maps triggers my autism.
And my floor colors will trigger someone else's

>>135861025
But that's how you know you're not done with the floor. It's a pretty handy clue.

>>135861165
There's more to those floor?
But I even got the "completed all maps" medal.

Are they DLC? Will they be taunting me until I give up to their blackmailing and purchase the DLC?

>>135861513
Yes, they're DLC exclusive areas. The first one is for a boss and the second one is for a very damn annoying super FOE that may very well be a boss as well if it wasn't for something else I won't spoil you.

>>135846630
I know that feeling all too well

>EO1
Immunize meme
>EO2
Painless meme, climax meme, revenge meme
>EO3
Formaldehyde meme lets you get conditional drops from FOEs/bosses much earlier than you should, and it's extremely easy to farm thousands of en with farmers to buy OP weapons in the early game

When does EO stop being broken?

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>>135862110

Never.

>>135862110
>meme
There's that word again...

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>>135850750
I was halfway through EOIV and found a used copy of EOII at gamestop, i bought it and cleared the first stratum and bought EOIII afterwards. this was a year ago. I'm halfway through IV's postgame dungeon, haven't played II recently, and my copy of III is sitting on my shelf untouched as of yet. I had also bought EOU when it was on sale in the eShop and barely touched it.
If you have a ton of games, play those first, because EO games require a lot of time.

>>135862325
What's broken on EO4?

>>135855643
Alright then, so I'll leave it at rank 9.

>>135855532
It's a troubadour song and it extends skill effects like other troubadour songs and even ronin stances.

>>135862110
>broken

If the games were actually "broken" the series wouldn't have gotten so many fans.

They're good skills, not auto-win buttons. They're unbalanced but they don't make the game unfun.

"Broken" is Persona Q with instant-death everywhere.