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Gureaster edition

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permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Sometime: OGB removal please god
>Spring: Citadels Expansion & cap rebalance
>Apr 23: Fanfest - Promised info about "Not Legion" game replacing killed Dust. Amarr Championship finals: Tash-Murkon (Kelon Darklight) vs Kor-Azor (Lysus)

Ongoing:
>Mar 09: Project Discovery: MISIDENTIFY THINGS AS CYTOPLASM, ACQUIRE ISK
>Mar 01: Newbro Months Public Events: http://www.moreevechaos.com/event-schedule.html
>Feb 29: CSM XI elections open til Mar 25: https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote

Past:
>Mar 09: Elo Knight creates White Legion. <CAUC.> striking fear into minmatar pilots everywhere
>Mar 09: Massive tiercides: damage, dcu, tackle, webs, eccm, all ewar, tracking comps.
>Feb 29: New TQ hardware
>Feb 26: o7 Show Ep. 14
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 20: Carrier gameplay slides from Eve NT http://imgur.com/a/wppLG
>Feb 12: FAX will use the racial carrier skill and carrier w/triage fit will be converted to FAX
>Feb 09: SP trading live. New camera will be opt-out for two months. Some people won citadel bpcs.
>Nov 26: Fozzie confirms OGB removal in ~1 month
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>all-out
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Geckos for 30M when?
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>Amarr
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So let me get this straight /dog/, SMA/CFC are angry because a similar sized coalition are able to take there sov? And because they are in an active war to keep there sov they are asking CCP to make it easier for them to defend it?

How does that logic make any other sense exept that they expect to lose so want to move the game mechanic goalposts so they can win? I just do not understand why you would be that upset.

Unless there is something legitimately wrong with sov mechanics that im missing.
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>look forward to the Gurista event the whole week
>finally something light-hearted to break the monotony

>lose 14 Wasp I in a single site
>heavy drones are slow and those wtf cruisers kite them in all possible different directions
>maybe you should use the Geckos that drop in the other site, get it? xD Fozzie you are of geniuos, this way geckos don't drop in price

>if you use medium drones it takes forever
>on a DRONE BATTLESHIP

>missiles are even more of a no-go and I don't have the money for a raven

I'm going to fucking lowsec I feel like the sites there are easier
inb4 it was le plan all along xD everybody goes to lowsec and generates le content xd
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THANK YOU KEVIN
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>>135619614
so use sentries with optimal range omnids goddamn
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>>135619595
they're mad because defending their space requires them to do things, and that they might have to lose their space. I guess they think it should just be a permanent thing like highsec
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>>135619595
CFC is mad because they realized they were holding too much space but want to keep holding it anyways.
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>just use stationary drones for rats that eat drones
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>>135619614
>on a DRONE BATTLESHIP

let me guess, rattlesnake
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So whats optimal for the sites? dual paint rhml phoon?
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>>135619842
>complain about enemies being too fast for drones
>no! they eat drones!

so fucking use drone nav computers
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>easy sites people can run in pvp ships and get fun fights at the same time

>guys what's the optimal autism fit to farm them with maximum running away ability? I'm scared and hate fun
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>>135619712
both sentries and heavy drones get primaried, even if you try to aggro them with guns

they also get on top of sentries rendering them useless, while they burst to 5 different direction if you drop heavy drones
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>waaaa they added difficult pve I can't orbit and alt tab

fuck you faggots, wanting this game to stay a stagnant piece of shit. kill yourselves
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>my drone is being shot by rats

>do I recall the drone
>or do I let it die then complain on /eog/
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Time to unironically undock a mach, it seems.
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>>135620223
>easy sites people can run in pvp ships
haha, no
>fun fights
Do you even play this game?
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>>135620716
yes
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>>135620506
>>do I recall the drone
it dies
>>or do I let it die then complain on /eog/
it dies anyway, 1250 damage volley xd
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So if OGB is going to end, does it mean Orcas and Rorqs are gonna have to sit in the belts?
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>>135622484
>OGB is going to end
ETA: 2025

But yeah I don't see why it wouldn't apply to mining boosters.
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>>135622484
Yes
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mining boost destroyers when
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>>135622484
they said rorq is going to get special mining fighters or whatever at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if they kept off-grid mining boosts in game though - they don't seem to be willing to do the right thing when it comes to carebear faggotry
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>>135622724
>command ventures
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>>135622724
>CCP Terminus has been working on the idea of doing a command destroyer version of an industrial ship to accompany mining/expedition frigates. It would be a mini-Orca combined with a Command Destroyer's MJFG capabilities. The idea is that it would help roaming frigate mining fleets, such as those going into wormhole space, and be a low barrier introduction to Orca-like support gameplay.

Soon™
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>>135623308
>to accompany mining/expedition frigates

yeah all those fleets of ventures you see around the place right. terminus confirmed for retarded
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T3 skiff with 200mb bandwidth when?
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can anyone explain the endurance to me. what's up with all the non-ice bonuses it has? and why does it get a bonus to shit cloaks? why would I use it over the other one if I wasn't mining ice?
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>lacheesis
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>2016
>still no t2 abaddon/hyperion/rokh/maelstrom

what would they be /dog/

I vote command battleships that can fit 9 boosters and can boost out of region
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>T2 Malestrom
>it shoots memes instead of projectiles
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>>135623893
>it can fit 5 XLASB
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>>135623776

Ships that can launch fighters. Like an amphibious assault ship/commando carrier.
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>>135624142
can also fit more guns in the rig slots
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>>135624486
You really suck at parking, anon.
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>not Ardishapur
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>not the curse
>he dosn't want to neut people dry from 50kms
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>>135624838
I prefer the pilgrim because sneaky snek
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>>135624838
>neut
>from 50
it does like 30+10 now
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>>135625139
you can still neut all the way to 50kms and it will hurt them more than you cuz of the bonus
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>>135625221
50km is the max falloff

30+10 is 40, but 40 is half effectiveness, another 10 is 50 and that is zero effectiveness
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>>135625373
try it on a curse
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>>135625498
yes, that range I said was correct, its 30+10 falloff

which means 50 is zero cap drained
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>>135625568
math math math, try it in the game with recon V
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>It's a shitfits episode starring The All-Out gang
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>curse
>pilgrim
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>>135625662
are you fucking stupid?

Recon 5 gives you 30km optimal, 10 falloff, for a totall of 40km at 50% effectiveness, which means 10 more KM is 0 effectiveness
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>>135625723
> 1 billion isk arbitrator
You poorfags can't even afford a T2 fit memecruiser
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>>135626351
you can EFT warrior all you want but in-game its another story and it is neuting cap at 50km.
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>the facts say I'm wrong
>but I'm still right
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>>135627313
Neuting cap at 50 is zero

do you not know how falloff works?

if a gun shoots 30 optimal with 10 falloff, that means at 50km it does absolutely zero damage
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>>135627484
wow more eft warrior, I was expecting that
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>>135627484
Lies.

Wrecking hits can still happen even if you fire out to 250km
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>>135627484
it's actually slightly more than zero, but he's still retarded
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>>135627313
>EFT accurately reports the same numbers that are calculated in game
>it doesn't count because muh anecdotes
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ecks dee
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>>135627641
Go try it in-game, its easy just undock on a curse and neut at 50km.
If I'am wrong I'll stop posting forever.
You do have recon at V right anon?
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>>135627313
You're the one claiming established mechanics are wrong.

How about you provide some proof?
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>>135627602
its nearly zero percent chance.

yea go ahead shoot your civilian hybrid blaster at some target at 250km and call me when the RNG rolls you so lucky that your logarithmic decreasing chance to hit is so low that your 1 in a billion magically lands you a crit of all things

>>135627738
you're somehow claiming that in game numbers and variables are NOT the ones on paper, they're the same numb nuts
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>>135627738
That's not how this works nigger. Other people don't have to prove you're right.

God fucking damnit are you 12?
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>>135627752
Your proof is in-game see
>>135627738
Because unless you link me full up to date formulas you're also not providing any proof.
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>>135627890
>oh no other people say I'm wrong
Excellent way to disprove something, you must be scientist!

Why are you fags so afraid to try it in-game?
Do you really not have recon V?
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>>135627809
>its nearly zero percent chance.
iirc, a wrecking hit has a flat 1.5% chance of happening

>>135627897
How about you provide proof that 2x2 is 4? I need to see some up to date formulas.
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>>135623776
Marauders that can fit a new type of Bastion Module that increases your damage instead of tank... maybe.
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>>135628036
Do you even burden of proof nigger?

Really just stop posting anytime.
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>they don't have recon V
how embarrassing
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>>135628369
it's a good skill, but

>flying recons

only a faggot would do this
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>>135628369
> he doesn't have Advanced Shitposting at 5
Better buy some injectors to improve your bait
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>>135628428
its fun as fuck for supporting your friends, I would only consider the caldari ones gay

>>135628469
>he still can't try the 50+5km bug neut in-game
lmao
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>>135627313
What's next ? Armor penetration ammo ?
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>>135628568
I'm busy making isk. I'm not logging off to test out YOUR theory.

Why can't you do it yourself and record it? Lazy fuck.
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>>135628593
don't worry you wouldn't have the isk to inject into them right now, just like how you can't fly recon V
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>>135628568
they're all gay as shit m8. if you use d-scan immunity or cloaks, you're a fag and should biomass irl. they're also all cowardly ranged shit
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>>135628679
Why would I test something I know that works kek

>muh making isk too busy
I'm making isk too, its called 1bil/h just clicking on the market and buying pilots that double their price in injectors
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>>135628847
>Why would I test something I know that works
To convince other people you're right?

Mate you suck at arguing.
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>a ship is only good if you have to brawl, press F1 and hope for the best

>>135628906
>le no recon V post
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This is why CCP never visits here.
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>>135628965
>>le no recon V post
You can keep strawmanning all you want, it's not going to convince anyone.
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>>135629027
>he wants his eog to be like reddit with nothing but nonsensical positive people posting about what they did today, what they saw today and more random blogposting
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>>135629061
>no recon V
What other fun as fuck skills are you missing that you know nothing about their bugs?
Have you seen the 5k m/s panther burst cloak with Black Ops V?
Or the mini double dipping shield boosting golem with Marauder V?

too bad muh EFT doesn't show this things
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>>135629206
No. The point is we don't have any ccp defense force or le famous youtubers xD or other wacky internet personas. You can say that "Idea A" is bullshit without any omg downvote him :( faggots. Reddit and official forums are only about karma and upboats anyway.
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>>135629435
black ops V is not a useful skill like recon V

marauders are not fun either, they're just a dumb way for people with too much isk to lose some money
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>he doesn't pvp with 3xlasb vargur
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>>135629435
> Black Ops 5
> Marauders 5
lol nice waste of training time

Though I guess that's completely irrelevant now with skill injectors.
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>>135629825
>he doesnt elite pvp
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>>135629825
>implying I have anything left to train that is not caps and up, which I already have on other pilots
Anon right now I'm training all the specializations to V, next is mining, really nothing left
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>>135629657
>I decide what is fun and what is not
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>>135629934
I'm too poor to "elite" pvp.
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>not just pvping with meta 0 thrashers with skills at 3
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>>135630169
Not poor enough to talk about ships you can't even fly and EFT warrior right?
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>>135630240
shooting pods at the jita hub isn't pvp m8
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>>135630169
just get a bomber.

elite pvp
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>>135630310
A recon is not expensive nigger.
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>>135623776
>what would they be /dog/

Khanid Abaddon with massive missile projection bonuses, armor resist bonus, and a lot of midslots.
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>>135630449
its training is, considering that you don't have it at V you might as well not train it.
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>>135628074
>iirc, a wrecking hit has a flat 1.5% chance of happening
>>135628074
>iirc, a wrecking hit has a flat 1.5% chance of happening
It's 1% on any hit that would be a hit if you don't miss entirely

CTH is based on a number of factors but tour wrecking shot is 1% on any hit that actually hits
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Which Recon ship should I train in /dog/?

So I can run my sites without people harassing me and reach supreme carebear status

>Amarr leaves you with no cap
>Caldari looks like garbage
>Gayllente sounds fun, point people from the other side of the galaxy, while they can't even lock onto you
>Minmatar sounds like kiting faggotry
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>ggons on doog
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>>135630807
rook kill yourself btw
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>>135630807
A falcon because you're clearly a fag so it's a perfect fit.
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>rook
https://zkillboard.com/kill/52590714/
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>>135630807
>Amarr leaves you with no cap
but the amarr ones are drone boats

Anyways the only option is rook, the others can't apply dmg or do very little.
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Old lara gets shit done

New lara
> I can do this
> I can DO this
> no I can DO this
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>>135631034
>no jams

Should have just bought an orthrus
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>>135631598
woops wrong thread.

My bad /dog/.
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>not preparing your elite stratios to gank all the incoming gecko farmers
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>>135631598
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>goons
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>>135631971
Have you never posted in the wrong thread before, Will?
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>>135631798
>stratios
>gank

oh no 400 dps I'm scared

mfw I can warp out without even being aligned before you can lock
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>>135632095
you're will smithing me? you piece of shit
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>will smithing me
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>>135632267
I'm sorry did I rustle your tiny dingaling?
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>>135632385
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>>135632447
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>>135632127
>oh no 400 dps Im scared
more like 800
>I can warp out
with scramble+disruptor and being neut'd to oblivion

easy kill, thx for being this bad
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>>135632447
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Alright dog, the ultimate question.

Rifter vs Tormentor
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>>135632604
>non-bomber cloakfag
>locking something in time
>ever
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>>135632681
> RIfter
What is this, 2007?

Tormentor blows rifter way the fuck out of the water.
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>>135632604
There is no way a stratios can do 800dps without some 1bil bling fit with geckos and shit
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>>135632747
already looting your wreck m8
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>not flying punisher gangs
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>>135632747
I'll ram your shit up senpai.
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>>135619614
>>135620334
Get rekt drone afk shitters. How about you press F1 for a change?
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>>135632869
meaning you have to decloak really far away, or spend longer than it takes to do the site slowboating to me, if you can even go faster than the target in your slowboating amarr ship

I'm not even a carebear, just saying you'll never kill anyone who isn't retarded
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>>135632807
I said elite stratios since the very start ;^)
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>>135628815
>don't even want this immunity to d-scan
>felt that they were fine before this was added
>it's literally pointless and only even useful for being a huge faggot
>don't get to fly t2 e-war without feeling like a huge faggot

Why'd you do it foozie? Why?
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>>135633340
>not flying t1
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>CODE
>PIRAT
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>>135633340
>>it's literally pointless and only even useful for being a huge faggot

You're a huge faggot. More ships need d-scan immunity.
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>>135633425
That's what I have to do now, but if I wanted to fly a t2 for any reason, like more tank or a different bonus I now have to feel like a giant cum guzzling homo.

>>135633516
More like d-scan needs nerfs. If only a few ships have some silly arbitrary bonus it just leads to cheese and faggotry.
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>hisec pvp
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>>135633664
t2 not being a direct upgrade and obsoleting t1 is nice, they should do it more. ships being gay as shit isn't nice though. I would've liked it if combat recons were just tanky, and didn't have gay as shit sneaky d-scan immunity , which is totally useless for anything not dishonest and shitty
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oh fugggg

how do I import my Tranquillity setings onto Singularity?
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>>135633928
cogwheel in the launcher
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>any pvp
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>>135633928
>redeemable items
i want me some of those pls
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>>135634210
just jump on singularity
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>page 10
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This is True Power.
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>>135637465

>8x 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
>not 7x Polarized 800mm Repeating Cannon
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>>135637465
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>>135637465
>not using pirate faction ammo with artillery

Arties hardly use ammo, you have no excuse.
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>not using lasers with t1 ammo
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>infinite ammo
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>>135639359
>t1 laser ammo
Unless you are structure bashing afk, you have no excuse
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>>135639359
Fuck that noise

If you're too much of a Jew to buy imperial Navy crystals you can fuck right off

Imperial Navy crystals get you an average of 4000 shots on a gun that fires once every 4 seconds will last you over 6 hours
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So what are the guristas dropping on this event?
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>>135639839
Not even if you're structure bashing, faction crystals are still superior and they last so stupidly long it's dumb. You're losing loads of DPS because you want to save some 60k isk per crystal
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>>135640169
Shit.
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>>135640171
You're losing 10%

Unless you're bashing it solo, it won't make much of a difference.
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>>135640326
10% is pretty significant

If your Oracle does 800dps with t1 that's 80dps you're missing out on

There is no reason to use t1 ammo when faction lasts so stupidly long and the extra DPS you get is always worth it
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why do they make t2 and faction crystals run out at all?
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>>135640801
Because all other types of ammo run out as well?

The better question is, why are T1 crystals infinite? They barely take up cargo space anyways.
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>>135639839
if your ship outlives your crystals, you've got a pretty clear sign that you're not having fun.
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>infinite ammo
>mfw literally free isk
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>>135640931

>The better question is, why are T1 crystals infinite

because why would a piece of gem used for focusing light 'break' by shining light through it
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>>135641063
yeah or maybe you're just not bad
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>>135641140
Nigger don't bring logic into this.

There's much worse offenders when you open up that can of worms.
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>>135641270
>>135641140
I meant realism, not logic
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>>135641235
are you one of those fuckers that won't undock or fight anything if there is a 0.1% chance to die so your zkillboard doesn't drop from 99.9%?
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>>135641140
Intensive light could cause heat to deform the fragile and precise crystal structure

T1 crystals aren't as precise and far more durable because of it
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>>135641452
no

are you one of those retards who makes dumb assumptions
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>>135641729
>yeah or maybe you're just not bad
the irony, stop talking about yourself
>>
>massive laser that destroys shit

>it's only light guys
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>>135641892
using t2 crystals up is pretty easy m8. I get that amarr ships are probably too hard for you but still, biomass irl pls
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>>135642083
reyni stop with your suicide projecting
>>
> he doesn't buy all those 2% damaged faction crystals from contracts at a fraction of their true value
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>>135641667

this is literal pseudoscience, a shittier crystal would actually get damaged faster than a not-shitty one (one which passes light better)

and that's ok if it exists for the sake of some game mechanic, but there's no game mechanics reason to have crystals break
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>>135642254
>there's no game mechanics reason to have crystals break
Consistency?

The other races deplete ammo, so why shouldn't amarr?
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>>135642229
you have to fly amarr ships to actually save money with them though
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>>135642392
How hard are the new sites? What are people using to run them?

Can I go t3 dessie hunting again in cruisers?
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>>135642460
There's gonna be structure bashing at some point.

Slicers are fun to fly as well.
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>>135642254
A less precise crystal could be made with stronger materials and not have the same tolerances that more precise crystals need to be made with

Since high intensity light can easily degrade amplification crystals t1s damage is unnoticeable but fragile crystals would be more susceptible
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>slicers
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Is someone sub -5.0 sec status engagable in highsec as someone with a suspect/criminal flag?
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>>135643032
Yes

Anyone with a -5 status is engageable
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>>135643032
yes. they will also have the police on their ass, so after like 10 seconds or whatever a bunch of faggot rats will show up and lay down major damage and tackle
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>>135643289
You know what's funny is the rats web before they scram
>>
Running blasters, web, and a mwd. Should I start off with null, or just charge straight in with void?
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>>135643896
they usually do, but sometimes they don't

I hear a lot of bads saying it's always safe, but it's not, sometimes they fuck you
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>>135644347
It's situational

If your target is getting away from you then use null where applicable. Otherwise use void if you're on top of them. I prefer fed Navy antimatter because of tracking at those close ranges is important too
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>>135644347
I have no idea because you've given very little information. it also sounds like you're t2-ammo-only scrub, don't be
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Is it finally over?
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>>135644987
kek lal
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>>135644987
Jesus christ anon. You maniac.
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>gurista event rats shoot rapid lights

fuck ccp
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>>135644987
nice ship names
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Awww yissss

I'm getting bored with it now though.
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>svipul
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>>135646989
>still no nerf in sight, because risk-averse farmers and blobbers want muh capitals
>>
>omg ccp pls nerf X because it pwned my 2M shitfrig :((
>>
what was that page that showed graphs of money gained (present)and shit?
>>
>tfw deep in enemy space with aggro and no cloak
>tfw really need to take a dump
>>
>try to get into fw pvp
>first system i start checking beacons
>see 5 or 6 svipuls coming to me on dscan
>panic and warp to sun
>they follow
>panic again and warp to station
>saw a big camp on it and dock up anyways
>stuck here for hours

I wish I wasn't retarded.
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>>135652058
was that in tama by any chance
>>
>>135652058
FW is a bunch of blobbing faggots with ewar nigger slaves behind their backs and/or million of faggots swarming your face for le killboard greeness

bring a venture to empty plexes and enjoy the most elite isk
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>>135652580
some of them are. some people everywhere are faggots
>>
>massive goon fleet battle
>mfw literally hundreds of them still ratting and mining while it's going on
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>>135655341
So? Half of those are probably alts of people in the fight.
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why do people hate on pizza so much

just flew with an ex pizza and he seemed cool
>>
SMA lost another station
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>>135657248
>isk war lost
>strategic objective lost

how will they spin this
>>
>PLEX is worth 1bil
fuck me resubbing would cost me beaucoup shekels
>>
I am an idiot in economics. Why are traders interested in items that have a big price gap between buy and sell order?

> because they could buy low and sell high
well but the gap only comes from people being polarized towards either selling or buying doesn't it?
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>>135657248
Which one?
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>>135658341
It is a great time to invest into the dow plex jones actually, people are still not over the injector craze.

The plex price dropped like 200mil because people are selling while the injector price is still going up because so many people are buying. Within the month things should stabilize and plex will go back up again, but right now it's pretty cheap.
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>>135658786
ye ye nigger but I invested at 1.1bil and if I resub I lose isk.
>>
how do i have fun in eve?
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>>135660179
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Has there ever been a plex sale for more than 10%? I am not saying there should be, just curious.
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>>135660647
they used to have 20% sales and coupons on sites like GoG but CCP banned that because they were losing money hardcore
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>1,7km/s Hel
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>>135661191
>mfw I fucked up the filename
>mfw I have no face
Time to sleep
Good night /dog/
Please posts some dogs
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>not tronhadar or valklear
>>
>not Sebiestor
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>tfw no reason to resub
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So I've resubbed after 2 years of getting a college degree.

What have I missed?

Where should I start now?
>>
>>135662662
>>135663081
join tengoo
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>>135660024
>play eve
>not play eve
nice isk tho I guess
>>
>>135658413
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/C8-CHY
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>>135663130
>mfw I was in tengoo
>>135663296
thnx m80 it is pretty sweet
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>>135661548
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>>135663367
Does that mean it's a freeport now?
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did someone say they were having trouble with these event sites in a big drone ship?

mfw I'm literally running one in a t1 frig
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>>135663821
Yeah. Stations take 2 cycles to conquer, first goes freeport, second to actually take it.
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>>135663821
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/outposts/freeports looks like it
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>tfw resub but nobody you know is logged in
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>>135664589
f

join all-out
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What is user ID and API key in EFT?

It doesn't like my API key I used before.
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>>135664707
surely you mean x
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>>135664589
Still looks like Rodnie Mckay from Stargate Atlantis.
>>
Anyone here from 2015 Fanfest remember the Disney Princess rings?
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>there will never be an /eog/ meetup at fanfest
>you will never dogpost irl with your /eog/ m8s
>>
tfw you will never have feminine /v/ bros to cum with at fanfest
>>
>tfw made 3b off skillgoo today


When do I need to get an altcorp to hold all my dank iskies?
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>>135665123
fuck you m8 I've not got enuff brain power to find that picture
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>>135665656
>73.88MB/238.02MB 82.2%
the nose knows
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>>135665546
>dogposting irl
>willsmithing irl
>ignoring resistance irl
>polarizing fanfests irl
>with /eog/ m8s
i am actually down for that
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Your thoughts on the new capital changes so far /dog/?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6399300
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so what kind of ship do I need to do these gurista sites?
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>>135670549
ishtar will work best
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>>135670549
Hulltanked brutix.
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>>135670549
detention facilities have rapid lights, so you can't do them in fun ships

the other kind is just turret cruisers, then a railgun ecm raven. I tanked it just fine in a t1 frig with mse and no prop
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6399700#post6399700

>CCP devs will never role play with you
>>
Is there a way to set one mod on a rack to never overheat when you overload the rest of them. Outside of just clicking the other 3 to overheat
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>>135671572
>ccp guard will never erp with you
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>>135671736
no
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>>135661191
>tishu
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>>135661191
>1700m/s
>faster than most medium and heavy cruisers
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>>135672626
>what are links and snakes and how broken are they
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>>135672802
>what are tears and salt of faggots who complain about haves and have nots
>>
>>135672868
>what are retards who misrepresent the base stats of things
>>
>>135672954
cry more
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>>135673052
calling you dumb isn't crying
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>>135673150
>FUCKIN SNAKES
>FUCKIN LINKS
>FUCKIN DRUGS
your tears provide more to EVE than rise ever could
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>>135673260
>2016
>still being unable to read

also drugs are fine, only a massive retard would lump them in with snakes and links
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>>135673427
>drugs r fine
>but snakes aren't
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>>135673545
yes. different things are not the same
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>>135673545
>affordable candy vs le elite billions isk investnment
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>>135673635
>drugs that give you massive speed, tank, and damage boosts are ok
>but snakes that make you go faster is not
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>>135673720
they give you small bonuses, a bunch of them have penalties, they don't break the game, and you actually pay for them and 'lose' them when they are used. if you do implants in lowsec and you take appropriate steps to not get smartbombed, you are getting the benefit without risking anything
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>>135673967
>they give you small bonuses,
>I've never used Crash that makes shield tanks absolutely ridiculous
>I've never used other boosters that give me huge missile application bonuses that makes citadel cruise missiles hit cruisers like HML's
>I've never used quafe that gives my 5% to speed and scan res
>I've never used exile
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>>135673967
>a bunch of them have penalties
which are easily avoidable with appropriate skills and people just don't undock if they get a bad side effect

>you actually pay for them
you pay for billions in implants too
>and lose them when they're used
they're cheap as fuck you can pop them all day

>you're getting the benefit without risk
boosters work just like implants.
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>>135674189
crash is missile sig m8. it's sort of expected that you use a standard exile or blue pill if you're doing active tanking on something other than a T1 frigate, because without it you're useless. these are not oppressive playstyles, they're so weak that you need this stuff to even get by. crash missile bonus is just the same kind of thing as drop tracking bonus, it's not turning dread weapons into cruiser weapons you shitter. 5% speed is dick, who cares. kill yourself btw

>>135674402
yes you pay for implants, but you don't lose them because no bubbles and learn to instawarp and not get smartbombed
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we need more dogs.

I mean, come on guys
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>>135674616
>5% capital energy turret activation cost per level
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>>135674540
>they're so weak
>I've never used strong or improved variants

>you don't lose implants
yes you do

I can pop some hundreds of improved and strong boosters before even getting close to the cost of a snake set ever

you lose boosters the same way you lose implants
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>>135674739
I use improved exile quite a lot m8. it takes active tanking from being usable to being quite good.

>yes you do

not in empire, which is where pirate implants are problematic
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>>135674907
>NO YOU DON'T LOSE IMPLANTS LIKE BOOSTERS
they get lost the same way, if you get podded you still lose it.

you're fucking retarded if you think that people using drugs to hyper inflate their DPS, tank, and speed abilities isn't magically on par with one another
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>>135674616

>7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking speed
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>>135673720
what drugs give you massive speed, you massive faggot?
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>>135675175
quafe is 5% which is huge on shit like confessors, interceptors and other kiting cruisers
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>>135675347
FIVE PERCENT
Do you know how much high snakes add, or links?
FIVE %yddos
thats like two digits of more speed on a cruiser.
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>>135675013
you feel the need to point out to me that when you get podded, you lose the 60 minute booster effect? it's irrelevant

you're actually retarded and should kill yourself. you pay your 5-20 mil and get your 20-30% bonus to a stat and it doesn't break the game, it lasts for up to 60 minutes.

or you pay your 2 bil or whatever for snakes or slaves, it does give a gamebreaking stat improvement, and it lasts forever in highsec and lowsec if you aren't a retard

you can misunderstand my posts all you like and rewrite them in capital letters if you like, but if you don't see the difference between these two things you should kill yourself
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>>135675663
>kill yourself
>kill yourself
>kill yourself
stop fucking projecting with committing suicide, are you the shitposting reyni?
>>
>>135675576
>thats like two digits of more speed on a cruiser.
it pushes a cruiser going 2700 to 2950

thats a pretty huge increase.
>>
>>135675816
>reyni

I don't know what that is
>>
>>135675921
>>135675663
are you dumb faggots forgetting that you can use drugs and OP implants at the same time?
Jesus christ
This is why implants are OP
>>
>>135675663
>ITS GAMEBREAKING BECAUSE ITS PERMANENT IN HS
then its irrelevant
>lowsec
so I can buy hundreds of drugs and get thousands of hours of use out of them before even thinking about the cost I've blown relative to implants, and they work just like implants

oh but its so gamebreaking when it doesn't fit your narrative
>>
>>135676001
thats what reyni will say
>>
>>135676089
>implants are OP because you can use drugs and implants at the same time
>not knowing that drugs go first in the stack
>>
>>135676089
no, implants are not OP because of being able to use drugs at the same time

>>135676095
>work just like implants

yeah because a 5% speed bonus is as good as a 25% speed bonus, right
>>
>>135676220
>135676220
well you're also calling them OP so thanks for agreeing I guess.
>>
>hey guys I'm not jewish but these jewish Ideas are super great
>pls ignore anyone who disagrees XD
>>
Man daytrading the the ultimate jewing skill. Why didn't i train this earlier.
>>
Can someone start up a brand new shitposting spree before this shit reaches page 10 again.
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Goons are the only thing keeping CCP afloat.
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>>135678195
BUFFER
OVER
TIME
>>
>french homo talks mad shit about USA in all-out
>cant handle the banter when its returned to him
>starts literally crying

baka desu senpai
are those new gurista sites worth doing? what kind of dps should i expect to be sent at me
>>
>>135678195
brawlfags are skilless faggots who fly ships only suited for easy F1 monkey gameplay because they can't into the intricate art of masterfully flying and controlling a kite ship.
Prove me wrong brawl niggers.
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>>135678993
>activate 50km point
>keep at range with MWD
>apply LMLs

garmurs pls go
>>
is it possible to farm FW plexes in an inty so that i literally can't get caught?

i wanna try FW but only if i can be a faggot about it when i need isk
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>>135678993

>tfw you perma-tank a smug kiteshitter and he's forced to warp off
>tfw you land on the gate/station with him and he dies
>>
>>135679416
warp stab a venture, it's cheaper so you can pay less attention
>>
>>135679416
you don't even need an inty, any frig can do it fine, you can also add warp core stabs for extra cancer
>>
>>135678993
kitefags are skilless faggots who think their unnecessary manual piloting is anything more than a waste of time, and who can only engage defensively, relying on kills being fed to them. they also don't understand the difficult decision-making involved in brawling, because they can engage literally anywhere, because basically all they really do when shit gets rough is align somewhere, go fast and shoot the things that come in range. in brawling, there's a lot you need to think about with where you engage, splitting aggression, and what the fuck you do about all the kiteniggers in broken gilas doing the same dps as you except at 50km. I'm not saying kiting is ineffective or that it has a low skill ceiling. you can do some really flashy shit, but you're usually just relying on people feeding you tackler killmails and abusing overpowered ships/weapons (rapids mostly)

sorry did you want a shitpost
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>>135679683
thnx
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>>135679521
>tfw you shoot a kiteshitter's link alt, wait for the kiteshitter to come on scan, then burn to 50km in the kiteshitter's direction
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/52672985/

>this is a standard goon ratting fit
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>>135680114
>frigate shield booster
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>>135680215
It's to keep the cap on jump level.

>>135680114
>storyline ecm
heh
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/52673132/
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Bit of a shame you still can't 'do' stuff with your real characters :^)
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>>135680114

I hope they reported it for botting if they caught it the way I think they did along with requesting a full alliance wide investigation if it was a bot.
>>
>>135681274
>highsec
>>
I want revenge on the goons for killing my family. What corps actively go out of their way to go goon hunting?
>>
>>135682136
PL, TISHU, FCON, OSS, OOS, NC.
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>>135682136

No-one does that here. We are alliances of peace.
We harbor many doctors, teachers, and scientists who seek only liberation.
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>>135680956
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>>135680956
H-how?
was he completely afk?
>>
>republic fleet large cap battery
>>
How many accounts do you have /dog/? Should I get a third?
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>>135684023
Cap batteries are pretty good for pve after the buffs.
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>>135684113
5
>Main PvP
>Dread/JF/BLOPS alt/Bridger
>Super
>Carrier
>Hunter/Scanner/Links/Standings/Trading and general bitch
>>
>>135684868
Plexing for so many accounts sounds like aids though
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>>135687663
660mil an hour doing L5s with a chance to loot autistic amounts of more isk in wyrmslayer
I can PLEX all my accounts in one long day
>>
>>135619595
The best part is that under old sov there was no such thing as vulnerability timers. They could be atracked 23.5/7. These days the cfc knows when they have to defend because they set the vulnerability window.
>>
>>135620334
Does the standard

>target paint the npcs so they shoot you instead of the drones

work?
>>
>>135687863
where do you L5s? dont you need to be in a cuckblop aliance?
>>
>>135690934
no and lowsec
its practically impossible to die
>>
>>135691020
how is so? you can be all by yourself? Im no newbie player but I dont know that much about capital ships and L5s. I guess you need to have a bunch of bookmarks on stations to safe dock/undock. or do you need a pos? when doing sites, its all aceleration gates to enter right? so its hard to be ganked I guess if you are in the site, short dscan, always align... do you have some links or stuff about this so I can check it by myself?

I have a few billions and I want to try L5s, I did alI kind of pve in the past
>>
>>135690934
you need to be in a lowsec group or you'll probably die
>>
>>135691927
Never done it myself, but my understanding is that you need a carrier in every system where the agent can send you (might be 4-5), and 1-2 high standing characters to decline the missions that are slow. If you aren't blue to the locals they will probably kill you.
>>
>>135691927
all the missions you take have no gates and all you need is instadock bookmarks
You are always aligned and no missions should last more than 2 minutes, some even last 30 seconds.
Don't need links but having some leadership skills help (like infor warfare) and you can do it with 1 pilot, but having 2 is better.
There is only a 15-20 second window where people can scan you down, warp to you and tackle you, for that you need max scanning skills, virtue set, a T3C fit for warping fast and scanning and being good at scanning.
Also on most missions you can't light a direct cyno so even if you do end up getting tackled you should have a few more seconds to attempt to get out.
>>
lowsec alliance fag here, a couple of things

agents send you to missions in the same constellation. some L5 agent constellations have very few systems, so you don't need many carriers. hysera, for example, is the only lowsec system in its constellation, so those gay russians there only need 1 carrier each. it's gay as fuck, the whole thing, but it actually used to be worse - you could get your lowsec level 5 agent spawning missions in highsec. so there was a bunch in hysera that would only accept highsec missions. though obviously you couldn't run them with carriers, which is what breaks the isk per hour and gets you like 500m/hour

another thing I guess is that if you get your mission accepting alt's faction standing high enough, past a certain point, you can decline missions really fast and it doesn't matter or something, so you can make do with just a single alt and get only the good missions

pls whine to get L5 missions nerfed so my alliance m8s stop farming them all day
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>tfw podded because rightclicked on a LCO instead of in space
muh +2s
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>>135693190
here have some of my +5s
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>implying i can plug them in
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>>135693423
want some books then?
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>>135674616
>10% bonus to small projectile turret falloff
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>Gist
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>10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret optimal range
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>>135692274
>>135692474
thx for the info, will keep lurking for more
>>135692808
what alliance are you in? pl? snuff?
I just want to get a crazy bank, like 200b, so I can plex my accounts and never worry again, flying and killing/dying non stop to accomplish true happiness
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>>135695383
OSS
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>tank on wheels
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>tank
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>pith
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>small projectiles
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>resistances
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>>135696532
Since when do l4 drop faction stuff?
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>lp
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What does Machariel even mean? Some biblical hurrdurr?
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>plex under 1b
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>>135696761
probably some angel
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About missions:
>do i have to start from l1? (soe)
>do the mission rats have same loot drops as belt/anoms rats (hic scrams, grapplers)
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>>135697125
>do i have to start from l1? (soe)

Not if you level up connections to a good degree, or have raised you standings in other ways

>>do the mission rats have same loot drops as belt/anoms rats (hic scrams, grapplers)

Depends on the mission. Some rats (Zor) and mission objects can drop better loot. Burner missions can drop faction and deadspace loot, but rarely.
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Should I inject it /eog/?

I got another one anyway
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>>135697242
Sell them while they are worth something (hint: that price won't last at all), inject when the price is shit
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>>135697318
I may aswell inject one then, there's no sales in the history tab and I like the Gurista theme and rails

tonight I have a sheild fleet, sugest me a fit so I can be dank with people I barely know
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Cannot even complete discovery tutorial.
After 2-4 test images is just hangs.

Is it me or CCP(as usual) ?
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>>135697581
Looks dank desu, I'll probably get one when they sell for 1m
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>not enough dps/tank to even steal a site from someone
hurr
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>>135697805
snipe the battlecruiser, it's easy af to kill
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>>135696795
Where?
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>>135698161
Jita. It didn't last long.
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>>135697805
I use a sleipnir with tractor beam, its impossible for him to grab the wreck unless hes sitting on top of it at thee time I'm beginning to tractor it, but that dosn't happen because I arty it before he can get even close to it.
I've stolen like 8 out of 9 sites
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>>135698356
>wreck
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So I've hit a plateau with this game. I've gotten about 300 mil, and I don't know how to make more money. I've been doing exploration/mining/industry and now I've hit a point where: I go out, find valuable ore/sites, start collecting, get ganked by cloak faggotry.

Am I doing something wrong? Yes, I check DScan every 2secs like a fucking bird swivles its head, but I still get surprise buttsex from ass-blasting hounds and manticores.

Should I just fucking uninstall the game for a fucking month while PvP skills train? How do I make more money besides this HORRIBLE hisec pittance cash? Lowsec/null/j-space rapes the shit out of me.
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>>135698682
Just start doing PVP immediately. You'll always be a target or a victim if you just PVE

>>135698682
>How do I make more money besides this HORRIBLE hisec pittance cash?

Join a wh corp
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>>135619660
Gee thanks Wendi
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>>135698682
You're playing a fucking mmo like it's a singleplayer game and complaining about it. Eve is a social game and the more you abstain from that the worse it is. Go find some faggots to play with who are like minded and enjoy what you do and you'll always have something to do.
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>>135698790
Okay, so, wait 3 months while skills get trained. Gotcha.

I mean, is it actually possible to kill anything in a T1 equipped frig?
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>>135698992
>is it actually possible to kill anything in a T1 equipped frig

No. When the game was released, everybody waited until they could fit a full t2 tank with t2 guns and prop mods before ever engaging in PvP. Nobody ever just decided, "fuck it" and went and tried something purely because they could.
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>>135698992
Watch the eveiseasy channel and drop that fucking bitchy attitude. If you wanna play solo, you gotta grow balls. Otherwise, play in groups.
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>>135698682
You're playing a sandbox MMO, but you're playing it like WoW, stop.
Join All-Out
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>>135698682
I'd suggest not losing money

use cost effective fits/ships

no, an astero is too blingy use a racial covops or if you can't/feel you can't afford to lose that, a T1 scout frigate

no, do not use T2 mods on a throwaway frigate, use meta mods

and so on. Sometimes it's better the cheap thing that does 80% of the job than the suber blingy monster that costs 70 times the former
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>>135698992
>is it actually possible to kill anything in a T1 equipped frig?
did you even read the /eog/ pastebin?
of course you didn't you goddamn faggot, theres videos there of r a 21 day rifter reking ships that cost 20 times its value
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>>135699169
>no, do not use T2 mods on a throwaway frigate, use meta mods
well thats just wrong, some T2 mods are too good to pass up and some are cheaper than the meta

>>135698682
Just grab fits from osmium, zkillboard or dog.
You might think that you need to figure out how to fit a ship on your own from zero but its just faster to learn why they are fit this way or this other way and then start to come up with your own fits and find your favorite kind of ship and playstyle.
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>>135699540
>well thats just wrong, some T2 mods are too good to pass up and some are cheaper than the meta
I'm thinking I just had to pyfa-fit a merlin for tonight, T2 damage mods costed 3-4 times the whole hull, nope

I picked a damage rig and I made up for the loss of dps

btw can somebody quickly name useful utilities in HIGHSLOT? I got 60 cpu and some PG and I don't wanna fit a cloak
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>>135699705
Neuts if you have cap for them, nosferatu if you need it. Leave it empty otherwise
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>>135699741
this assuming pvp... if it's for pve, salvager, probe launcher (if you want to do combat sigs or wormhole stuff)
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>>135699741
too long range for neuts
>>135699813
>salvager
I'll go with that, imma be loot boi tonight
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>>135699934
>too long range for neuts

yeah, no. neuts will help you on brawlers. You will kill their cap, which kills their ability to apply damage and to chase you down. You sound like you're in a railgun merlin, which will die if anything closes in on you, and if you're doing FW-sec PvP entering sites and shit, any brawler will murder you when you enter a site.
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>people still can't instant undock or use alts
>people keep giving wardeccers valuable kills
>tfw you'll never be free of this hell
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>>135700064
A railgun merlin with SAAR and dual web is pretty good. It doesn't have any utility highs though
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>>135700064
this was for another ship (corm)
merlin doesn't have any utility slots mane

gotta find a way to stock up for tonight
>saturday night fleet
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I feel like trying to learn to pvp in FW is just making me hate this game.
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>>135700228
>learn to pvp in FW
you don't
you either fleet up with people and go blob (and be blobbed) or it'll take you months more of knowledge and ISK gatehring to be competitive in le eleet solo pvp
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>>135700162
change corp
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>>135700162
Maybe you could join an alliance that isn't filled with retards :^) ?
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>>135700228
FW is garbage, you spend more time running from slavs and japs or pimped faction ships than fighting.
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>>135700162
>Is your corp garbage?
>are you the only one active?
>are the rest of your corp mates just spewing memes?
>does your leadership go AFK and argue all the time?
Join Waffles
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>choice 1
>serious corp full of autistic 1337 fags

>choice 2
>casuals who wont accomplish anything
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>>135700798
I'd rather have a group that actually gets shit done than those who don't

Simple choice, would you rather be in waffles, that actually gets shit done or would you rather be in goons, whose sole purpose of fleets and fights is "if we can't hyperdunk it, don't undock"
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The worst possible players are the "it's just a game, bro."
If you aren't a fucking day one noob, you know that EVE wouldn't be EVE without a severe dose of autism and commitment. It literally runs on it. So you may have some plans with your gf (most likely a lie anyway), but I don't give a fuck and want you on those timers.

protip: logging in on pings for "muh content" doesn't count as playing the game. Corp doesn't run on killmails.
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>>135701298
Game would be a lot emptier without casuals playing as cannon fodder
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Let's say I found a skill extractor in a gurista site?

What I'd need to do to maximize my profit? Sell it as is or find 5,5 mil skill points I don't need
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what are you doing rite now /dog/
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>>135702618
Trying to think of ways of setting up reliable income that won't bore me to death.
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2 hours 20 minutes missioning, 714959 LP.

Why am I so shit at missioning?
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>>135702587
Just liquidate all the loot you get from PvE and figure out what to do with the profits later. No need to keep junk sitting around in your hanger.
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>>135700798
One account in goons for afk carrier ratting.

One account in waffles for PvP.

How is this even a question?
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>>135702916
Good luck with that.

>Managing PI is boring
>Managing manufacturing is boring
>Researching doesn't earn dick
>Copying researched BPO's isn't exactly exciting
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>>135702618
Extracting PI materials
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>>135706205
I was thinking more along the lines of improving missioning efficiency
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>>135706596
Which kind?
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>>135706205
>things I don't enjoy are boring

mate, when a guy gives tours of fucking ELEVATORS for a living, there is something out there anyone can do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMs-E9LbWPA
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>>135706687
Exceptions to the rule my friend.

I'm sure there are people who find PvP boring and mining legitimately exciting as well.
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>>135706670
SoE in HS
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>>135706738
>he doesn't find mining for 2m/h exciting

Daredevil season 2 was pretty fucking good.
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>>135706913
The only way you're gonna improve isk/hr there is by learning which missions to accept or decline, which to blitz and which to clear for bounties.

And check which items are best isk/lp of course.
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>>135702618
grinding standings
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>>135706998
>The only way you're gonna improve isk/hr there is by learning which missions to accept or decline, which to blitz and which to clear for bounties.

But there's also fits and ship choice+having to consider finances and SP.
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>>135707302
True you'll need specialized ships for the burners.

A machariel can take care of most standard 4's though.
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>>135696635
they don't

for the sake of meme
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>>135707619
I read that burners drop faction mods and ammo
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>>135707531
I know, I use one. A lot of missions are still pretty tedious.
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>>135707058
is it suffering?
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>>135707845
The shakes aren't too bad. Once you pvp more they go away.
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>>135707845
Or are you talking about the standings? It's kinda annoying up soon I'll have the faction standings to be able to do Gallente level 5s.
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>page 9

come back ammo resistance guy
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For the guys claiming incursion comms aren't that bad: Fuck you

The WarpToMe FC right now is literally hitler with a god complex. How can you stand listening to such an insufferable cunt for several hours?
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>>135711434
you don't, fly with TVP now that you know your way around incursions
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>>135711716
I heard TVP is even more hitler and elitist than WTM so I don't know man.
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>>135711895
People talk less on comms. They are more strict tho, everyone there is in for max isk/h
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>>135711434
>tfw in waitlist for eternity
fucking weekends man

fuck off normies
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>plex four hours
>literal free play time once a month
thx CCP
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>come back to the game after years of not playing
>damage control is not a suitcase anymore

welp I'm out again
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>>135713853
Send me your stuff before you go anon, I'll take care of it :^)
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>>135713853
caps are getting a crazy suitcase that gives them 99 resists.
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>>135714130
>trying to do damage control
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>>135714130
>all this damage control
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>>135682136
>>135682336
>not mentioning the premiere high efficiency anti-goon task force of new eden, the sultans of smack, the dukes of dunk, the uncompromising illimitable MORDU'S ANGELS
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>>135714582
Gevlon please get the fuck out.
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>>135690124
>old system was vulnerable 24/7 and new system is only vulnerable for a window why r u whining lol
i'm no goon and hold no sov and sort of like the tilt in favor of the smaller attacker right now, but that argument doesn't address the concerns i've seen voiced in those forum threads.

sure the old system was "vulnerable" at any time and a bashing fleet could cause a timer to pop in any TZ, but the nature of bashing meant that starting a timer was a significant investment, so relatively fewer timers were started than entosis pings made, even though you can only ping for a few hours a day.

because of this, in old sov you could plan around timers coming out and form for them, no matter what tz they came out. under aegis sov, the people who play outside of the alliance vulnerability window can do whatever they want ingame and the people who play inside the vulnerability window have to hold the fort down and have no time for anything else ingame.

so even though the window is limited compared to the old system, the other mechanics changes mean that the alarm spam is higher and the people who are online to respond are a much smaller subset than before and are burning out faster.

>ALL THAT BEING SAID

this is happening of course for a number of reasons.

old alliances were made to have full TZ coverage BECAUSE timers could come out in any TZ. It's hurting them now - nowadays if an alliance was all USTZ and its v-window was USTZ, the burden of defense would be spread more equally to all its members.

and of course there's the issue of holding too much sov, which the complainers in these threads like to hand-wave away with "obviously we're not holding too much sov, look, you haven't been able to take it away yet so we're clearly able to hold it just fine lol" which totally misses the point...

anyway, your argument that i quoted is flawed, use a better one
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>>135715336
Here's your argument: sov is shit, deal with it or get the fuck out.
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>>135715336
Afaik with dominion sov you could program the reinf timers to exit at X time, like with POCOs.
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>>135715768
I think they are starting to realize that desu
Though their response is more alone the lines of "ccpls buff the benefits of holding sov cause rn it really sucks to pay for literally only having our name on space with defending against entosis spam"

Why the ratters don't move to npcnull idk; I hope there's a better reason than just inertia.
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>>135716253
I have little experience with null sov holding but it seems to me if you actually use a system, it wouldn't be that hard to chase off these random entosis faggots because you would be in system anyway and it's only vulnerable during a small window.

Nullfags just want to print isk and be left alone I guess.
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>>135715768
Sov is actually pretty good, but takes a ton of isk to build the infrastructure to make it worth (outposts). Why else do you think goons hold onto it.
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>>135716626
I meant the act of actually holding and defending your sov. It was a shit mechanic then and e very flawed mechanic now.

Frankly I think goons might throw in the towel and invade highsec now trade citadels are gonna be a thing.
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>>135716885
lel not a chance
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>>135717096
Not entirely of course. They'll still have a large presence in null because >muh ratting

But do you really think they will pass up literal trillions of isk per month in trade taxes?

That doesn't seem like a goon thing to do.
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>>135717178
Gevlon p l s
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>>135712957
>work four hours
>literal free play time once a year
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>>135695383
when you have so much isk that nothing matters, that's actually true unhappiness. don't do it to yourself
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>>135717327
You don't need to be gevlon to see several trilions/month would be worth fighting over.

And who can blob the best to keep it safe?
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>>135717906
They tried the same before. How many highsec POCOs do goons own?
>Trillions
Not even close, at most a tiny fraction of current trade hubs will switch to citadels, most likely spread between mining systems and perhaps mission hubs. Jita will still be Jita and control 90% of the market
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>citadels
>not pointless
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>>135718165
You know why goons got out of the poco business right? Poco's didn't earn shit compared to moons and required just as much if not more defending. They sold them to RvB and still made a profit.
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>>135718271
Would people be investing hundreds of billions into the components and BPOs if they believed they were going to be pointless?

It's half the reason PLEX prices are so low right now.
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>>135718442
And surely it will be easier to defend now that an enemy can reinforce your sov without warning and you get fatigue every time you bridge near highsec.
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>>135718649
no, you only think it is
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>>135718725
Then pray tell why plex is so low right now.

It's not just injectors
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>>135718830
I don't know
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>>135718882
Just take a look at the volume traded per day in PLEX and then look at the release of the citadel dev blog.

It's really not rocket science.
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>>135718968
Plex price is mainly due to extractors though, plex volume traded has yet to stabilize since they were released
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>>135719141
Yes, partially. The injector market is a tricky one.

I'm still not sure how it works.
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These guristas site are sure waste of time

Like holy shit
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POLARIZED
BLASTER
KRONOS
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>Amarr
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>>135721691
Even the lowsec ones?

Better buy those geckos back if they ain't dropping for shit :^)
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>>135722116
it's not just the drops, they're just a pain in the ass to do. nowhere near as simple as "kill 15 frigs, cruisers and 1 bc". they actually hurt and take some effort to kill. when you finally do you get nothing but meme zero
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are the gurista sites usually just dropping dogshit like frostline, or is it crazy money like crimson harvest?
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Still worth it even if only for speculator tears
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>>135722274
Run the lowsec ones, they're a lot easier
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>>135704573
That's silly. Isk devalues constantly. Items can devalue or appreciate based on the market. First rule for a trader is to keep your wallet low, and while that's not for entirely the same reasons, it partially applies here. That's not to say that liquidating the injector isn't the right plan here, but it's not for the reasons you give. It depends on if he has enough sp he doesn't want somewhere and what return for his sp he'll see by putting it into whatever activity's skills he's currently making money with.
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>>135722347
Dogshit.
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>>135722347
seems worse than frostline so far, extractors, aurum tokens, geckos, quafe 0, permanent SKINs, shit like that. Dunno about plex or skill queues.
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>>135722347
I missed crimson harvest. Why was it crazy money?
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>>135722796
Each site had a guaranteed 70M drop and the chance for an extra 200M. They also took like 5min to run and accumulated in wormholes by the dozens
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>>135722774
what? aurum tokens and geckos are good money

>>135722796
because they were faster to run, and about 70% of the time you'd get something worth like 80 mil, that literally everyone wanted, so I'd start roaming, then 10 minutes later I'd have 200 mil in my cargo, I'd bring it home and just sell it to my alliance and it would all sell instantly

>>135722726
guess I won't bother then. if they're going to put RLML cruisers in it then it's just no fun, and the other type of site I tried had like 25 cruisers
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>>135723023
PLEX and Skill Queue tokens were good money in Frostline - assuming they dropped. It's like expecting to get a high grade omega whenever you kill a faction spawn. It's good money, but it probably won't happen. Not to mention Gecko prices will go down ever further when they move to Tranquility and the aurum tokens are only 500 which is around 330m iirc.
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>>135723256
>when they move to tranquillity

it's already on tranquility m8
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>>135723256
plex was rare af in frostline tho. I'll take aurum and geckos if they drop often
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>>135723368
Oh. I haven't played for a week or so.
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I'm not bumping this thread again
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sisi down or what?
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>tfw still hackable on singularity
thanks for changing my password, ccp
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>Its a Anon gets to fly a Super on a test server because he never will in Tranquility episode
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>>135728215
> wanting to fly a Coffin on TQ
top lel matey
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>>135622484
They have mentioned an invulnerability field/shield that could be fit to a rorq and would shield all itself and all mining ships for 15 minutes.
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>>135729072
That probably makes everyone affected immobile.

I guess it could force some fights. A rorq isn't exactly cheap.
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>>135728215
>that guy who wasted 30b on a ship he never uses, and is smug about it
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>>135729774
>that guy that thinks 30b is a lot of money and can barely plex his accounts
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>>135729901
lmaoing at all the time you wasted making isk
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>>135729901
> that guy who uses the "what are you, poor?" argument to defend his bad investment
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>>135729901
obligatory reply to tell you to GIVE ME ISK NOW
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These new facial augmentations all look like shit. Every single one.

I'm just gonna sell em.
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>>135729901
>that guy who spends a month trying to plex all his accounts
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>>135730310
>>135730306
>bad investment
>on a video game
Have fun thinking your tristan fights are cool friendo, I'll be over here with my multiple caps, supers and PvP characters doing all kinds of different shit all over the place having the time of my life sitting on 350bil liquid.

Why are poor people so dead inside?
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>>135730646
Enjoy your book while in those 10% tidi blobfests, autismo.
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>>135730646
>doing all kinds of different shit all over the place

you mean sitting in a pos, trying to convince yourself you haven't made a huge mistake
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>>135730646
>35%
>mittani
>tax
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>>135730836
I'm trying to decipher what the fuck you just said.

It's gonna take a few days.
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>>135730638
Sorry to inform you but I don't make shitty isk/h like you, if I wanted I can plex all 8 accounts I own plus 2 inactive ones in less than 10 hours.

Although I don't need to because I have a steady moongoo empire that nets me over 32bil gains every month and over 350bil in liquid sitting on muh wallets.

>>135730769
>he thinks all super fights have tidi
lmao, shows how little you know poor baby, stop reading reddit

>>135730836
>goons

>>135730825
>what is having multiple accounts
no need to use super or titan? Fine lets just use regular 210mil sp PvP pilot, oh I need the super or titan? Lets use it then because I own one unlike you pathetic poorfaggots, see how it works? it's not hard.
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>>135731315
>I need the super or titan?

literally never happens

keep farming bro
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>>135731315
Provide your wallet API or get the fuck out you lying sack of shit.
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>>135731315
>210mil sp PvP pilo
You forgot your link alts before engaging in solo PvP, faggot.
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>>135731465
happens at least once a week where I get to use my super in a small fun skirmish my delusional poor amigo.

And once a month there is a xboxhueg fight that just makes it all worth it and multiplied by 20

>>135731553
Give me access to your entire 268435455 API and I'll show you my wallet API for last week.
and don't trick me

>>135731703
are you this upset? lmao poor people can't even buff themselves with superior links
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>>135731553
it's probably that level 5 fag

he makes smug wallet posts all the time
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>>135732165
>missions
>putting effort and/or repetitive tasks
thats a poorfag way to make money
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>where I get to use my super in a small fun skirmish

>where I get to blob some solo/small gang people and jack off over getting a killmark and think I'm not risk averse
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>>135732116
You know how I know you're either lying or a complete retard?

Absolutely no one keeps that large of a sum in liquid isk in one character's wallet.
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>>135732432
no john you are the retard, when I refer to wallet I mean all my collective API put together on EVEmon and EVEthing
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>EVEmon
>>
> bragging about your wallet while refusing to provide proof
Man you're almost as bad as the resistance penetration guy.

Please biomass irl.
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>>135732927
waiting for your 268435455 API, this works both ways
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>>135732927
>almost as bad as the resistance penetration guy

It's hard to distinguish them from each other. They're both full of themselves and incredibly autistic.
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How do I make dank ISK from my sov null systems? Should I just go for a Rattlesnake and derp those sites?
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>>135733181
What the fuck does that even mean a 268435455 API?

And I made no claim whatsoever, you did. Stop being an autist.
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>>135733295
get a 800+ dps boat
run anoms
print isk
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>>135733435
>he dosn't know what a 268435455 API is
I change my mind, I don't want your useless API, you probably are not worth the blackmailing you poorfaggot
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>>135733181
>what is burden of proof
Probably the same guy that was crying about WTM earlier
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>>135733435
>claims to have half a trillion isk and its no big deal
>doesn't know what is a mask
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>>135733586
Is it the code for a wallet-only API or something?

Who the fuck refers to it by a numerical code? You must literally be autistic.
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>>135733606
wants proof but gives nothing in return
See I'm not under investigation by the police here, I don't need to show anything without someone giving me something first.
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>it's a /dog/ falls for obvious bait episode
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>>135733658
You need to start reading the entire conversation chain kiddo. You're replying to the wrong guy.
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>>135733765
Well I have 500 billion.

Checkmate, autist.
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>kiddo
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Goons are disbanding next month.

>I'm mittani btw
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>>135734416
pls no martini

my ratting carriers
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>>135734106
good for (you)
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>>135734523
Sorry, bro. My team of hackers is already rmting most of the assests. It's time.
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Can someone explain the new SaraShawa overview pack?
What does he mean by the change in brackets?
have I been using brackets wrong all these years?
I've always just used the show all brackets for every tab
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>>135735314
She might have turned them all on permanently
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>>135627313
>>135625221
>>135624838
dipshit doesn't know what a heavy neut curse is.
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>>135738748
a tripfaggot calling someone a dipshit
oh the iron
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>>135738817
>/vg/ is the only board
>4chanx doesn't remember names across boards
>being this retarded
You must be Peligro
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>>135739243
you must be retard-o
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>>135739243
>I wasn't being a faggot, 4chanx just happened to save my faggotry
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https://zkillboard.com/related/30000968/201603190800/

>test
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Ahahaha.

>gorski

https://zkillboard.com/kill/52683255/
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>gorski car
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>ecm

what a faggot
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>gorski car
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>>135740869
ECM nerf incoming
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>gorski car
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>he doesn't realize people know he's the same person
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>Shakale Steinberg
rename incoming
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I was watching his stream, I liked hearing that faggot chessur sperging furiously because he lost his spaceship
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>>135741856
Good try Gorski "links are in a good place" car.
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>>135741968
It was on stream? Link pls.
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>>135742193
I don't have a link. you can probably match up the time with a chessur tengu loss on zkill though
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>>135742383
https://zkillboard.com/kill/52684035/
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resistance
penetrating
machariel
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>>135748257
I'm enjoying your resistance when penetrating your butthole.
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>>135748693
dude that's gay
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Can somebody recommend me a good guide for trading? There are too many out there.
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>>135749230
Buy with buy orders, sell with sell orders.

As for what items are profitable, that's a secret no good trader will ever tell you.

Start with faction ammo.
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ded page 10/10
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have you guys gotten anything good from gurista event sites yet
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>>135740869
Gorski such a shitter on pl irc too
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anyone else tired of Peligro waging a war against people with 2+ accounts?
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>>135753551
who?
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when did test alliance become not awful
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i have created a new form of cancer
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>>135754985
thats worse than the resistance penetration anon
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>>135754506
The head of Team Security, also the brilliant mind behind the "Yeah, no overlays because :reasons:, also you're banned" devblog.
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>>135756212
what
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>butthurt multiboxers
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>>135754687
When Vily went over.
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>>135754985
Isn't that basically a much sturdier stealth bomber
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>>135759075
and also it's stupid
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>>135754985
>lets fuck battleships even more
>>
DED
>>
GAEM
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>>135756709
>not seeing the progression he's taken over the years
>not wanting to play multiple accounts on multiple monitors without being banned for playing too well
top kek
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>multiboxers thinking they're good at eve
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>>135740869

> Four Teens Eighty Apes
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>multiboxing
>playing well
lol
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>>135754985
>5 bonuses per level
It's like you don't know anything about the game
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>>135764209
know this

*unzips dick*
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Hyperspace submarines when?
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>>135764574
>Hyperspace submarines when?

Sounds like a stealth bomber
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Covert Caps when
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Is it possible to get coloured robes as Amarr?
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> mfw our frig roam gets hotdropped and smarbombed by 4 or 5 goon titans
T-thanks guys
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>>135766960
this is why you always make perches around their home systems, they are that bored
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>>135767129
We tackled a goon ratter.

Unfortunately it was bait
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>>135767335
how the fuck did you die to a titan smartbombing you outside of a gate?
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>>135767421
They cyno'd in?

What's so hard to understand
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>Four Teens Eighty Apes
>White Legion.
>Elo cocksuckers

worse than reddit faggots, kill yourselves
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> multiple pilot training licenses cost more than plex
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Just got 10 days on my old account and probably just going to go max sp gain and drain it at the end.

Anything special to it or just pick a skill like battleship v, and remap to full perception/willpower and get good implants?
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>>135767626
>oh no a cyno
>I have maybe 8 seconds before whatever jumped lands in grid
>good thing we're on all fast but delicate frigates
>better move the fuck away from it, 15kms will do as long as we keep tackle
>good thing we're on all fast but delicate frigates that can do those 15kms in about 1 second
>actually jk lets all stay here
I just couldn't understand you could be this shit at the game thats all, my bad.
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>>135767893
I'm pretty sure on test server you can use plex for multiple character training, so I don't really get what the point of those is
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>>135768098
Some people got out fine, but do you know how large the AoE on fucking titan smartbombs is?
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>>135768251
big enough to kill a bunch of retards paying zero attention apparently
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>>135767893
normally isn't, its probably because of the gay guristas event
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>>135768376
Nigger I was orbiting at 20k and I got blown up.

You clearly don't know shit about smartbombs.
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>>135768376
>bunch of retards
>paying zero attention
>Some people got out fine
>paying zero attention
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>>135768376
wew lad

You're quite the insufferable cunt aren't ya?

Not even him btw
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w-what?
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>>135768585
Then why are you bitching if everyone survived.

>>135768569
that means fucking nothing, you were orbiting the ratter, add 5kms or so between the ratter and the cyno plus 1km from the cyno and the ratter and you're inside a titan that landed close to you, you were not actually safe ever, you want to be 15km from the maximum possible landing spot of the cyno, and why in the fuck would you be orbiting a ratter you goddamn autist was he actually shooting at you?

>You clearly don't know shit about smartbombs.
I'm not the one that died to them autismo

I would recommend that you consider suicide but the goons did that for you already.
git fucking gud
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>>135769212
>everyone survived
>Some people got out
>everyone
>Some

You are literally fucking retarded. Don't ever reply to me again.
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>>135769212
Would you expect 5 titans getting dropped for a frig gang?

I don't know man, it's easy to judge after the fact.
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>>135769335
Oh so people did die?
lmao get rekt by goons lmao shitter
back to Jita you go faggot

>>135769410
normally in a random system?
I'd expect T3Ds, which would make me get far to avoid scrams anyways, but keeping point
In goon territory?
absolute fucking yes, they do that daily against everything, you'd be clinically retarded or just plain bad not to expect it.
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>>135769410
In JU-?

Yes, they do it every day
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Who the fuck designed these guristas event sites?

HP walls are not fun CCP. The only challenge here is how much ammo I can hold.
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>>135769631
>>135769672
So you're saying we had a retarded FC who should've known better?

Well can't say I'm surprised really.
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>>135769865
make
cargo expanders
great
again
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>>135769865
So they're shit and unfun to run?

Great, time to buy geckos while they're still low then.
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>>135769865
just fly a battlecruiser or battleship you fuck, there's no restriction. alpha shit off grid

or use >amarr
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>>135770103
I'm running in a 350 dps svipul, and it's taken me 25 minutes to spawn the battleship in a transportation facility. All of that spent orbiting shit cruisers that can't hit me.

And now I'm fucking jammed.
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>cfcucks
>in /dog/
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>>135769931
That is their #1 tactic to clear small tackle
Against bigger ships in small numbers they just drop random ships from standing fleet
Against a big fleet of medium ships they drop carriers
Against something that could kill a ratting carrier they just drop it all no fucks.

You need to be out of JU- range to not get hotdropped, outside of their range you can kill cruiser ratters, they will still drop shit on ratting carriers even outside range even if they have to take a mid or jump a few gates.
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>>135769672
It was in R6XN-9.

I don't know much about null areas so I have no idea if our FC went full retard or not.

He probably did though. He's special like that.
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>>135770315
>a destroyer killing battleship npcs
>I wonder why its slow
Use a HAC, command BC or a pirate cruiser, anything bigger warps too slow and anything smaller is shit
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>>135770842
The cruisers were the problem. I was expecting frostline, which I could clear with one reload in this ship. Not...that.
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>>135770801
>R6XN-9
what were you trying to kill?
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>>135771157
A chimera I believe
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>[-10.0]
>[CONDI]
>[CAUC.]
>[NO.GF]
>[TEST]
>[SMA]
>[FCON]
>[CVA]
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>>135770842
do T1 ships not exist for you or something, you can only fly fedora-tier special shit?
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>>135771627
probably because its faster and easier to do it in those mentioned ships you fucking mongoloid
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>>135771496
yeah, how long were you shooting it?
with lets say 50 frigates and the chimera 100% AFK fit, they would have enough time to mid or jump , go take a bath, come back, grab a drink and jump you before the chimera reaches half shields.

>>135771627
I mean if you're just trying to meme around doing sites for fun and expecting suicidal PvP then use whatever, but any sort of PvE activity is always better with T2 ships or pirate no fucking question or debate.
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>>135771861
About 75 frigates, it went down to about 60% in 5 minutes or so and then the titans showed up.
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>>135772102
fc probably got greedy thinking he could kill a carrier and it clouded his judgement
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>>135771796
you'd actually spend hundreds of mil on a dedicated pve autism ship to run newbie sites in, rather than taking out something fun and fighting people at them
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>>135772291
Exactly. We were only supposed to briefly dip into null and maybe bust up a small gatecamp or two before continuing our roam in low.

To be honest we all got excited we had a carrier tackled. Most of the guys in fleet had never even seen a titan on grid let alone "fight" one.
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>>135772319
transportation sites aren't newbie sites

its pve, against mostly hac tier enemies, yes, you want a bigger fuckin ship

you're one of those dumb niggers who thinks eve is deadly wherever whenever who has probably not stepped outside his staging system all day, waiting for unsuspecting shitters to come through

you can sit in most lowsec systems for hours without seeing a soul and if you do its probably a fuckin blockade runner or an explorer

anyway, most eleet lowsec pvpers hang around aridia, amarr-min FW and whatever tama's region is. you can sit in kador or tash murkon or molden heath all day and night without being bothered by some faggot who would end up getting primaried by the rats because he thinks like you do and brings a shitty replaceable ship.
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>>135772783
>who has probably not stepped outside his staging system all day

I shitpost on /eog/ while in space, solo or small gang pvping, and some guy who does newbie pve in command ships is shitting on me
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>>135773138
I don't even play EVE any more

I just love /dog/ too much to go
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>>135628815
>they're also all cowardly ranged shit
>brawl with me or you're a girly man
get fucked nerd
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why is this allowed?
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>>135773630
Yeah they really should ban that disgusting pink/purple color.

That shit looks hideous.
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>>135772783
>eve is deadly wherever whenever who has probably not stepped
anon pls
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>>135773456
I'll brawl with you on my falcon, just let me drop a depot and refit all my jams against your race :^)
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>>135773630
I have some bad news for you anon.
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>>135776205
>all russians do in drone regions is build supers and titans every day, every week, every year every single waking moment.
One day they will wake up and decide they want to make EVE an only Russian game and nobody will be able to stop them.
>>
>russian invasion into cfc space will be indistinguishable from the eventual Drifter invasion

only 24 more years to go
>>
>>135776205
How can those xXDEATHXx fags keep all that space when they're less than a fifth the size of goonswarm?
>>
>>135776553
Last time they tried, they ended up eating themselves once the old northern coalition was done.

I'm not sure if they've ever actually stopped fighting themselves since then.
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>>135776860
if you touch one russian, you get your ass lynched, even if they are at war with each other they still band to fuck other people together
Goons also can't cover the terrain they could before and drone regions is not good for ratting.
So they are kind of blue to each other.
>>
>>135776860
pretty sure they have even more sov if you take their renters/allies/whatever into account

they should go shit on goons somehow though, do something good for once
>>
>>135776205
what the fuck is solar fleet?
>>
>>135776860
there's no point to taking it because they are Russians.

let's say you invade it and take it, now what? drone space isn't very good because the faction modules and officer ratting is trash compared to anywhere else in eve, but lets say you invade the drone regions and take it all? what do you do now? invade the cfc? you will get curbstomped because you won't have the numbers or money. so instead you invade south and provi. but why? what's to gain? "content"? if you win, you have more space you can't do anything with and you still have small numbers. what now? southwest? why?

anyway, xx are russians. Russians in eve are bigger shitposters and brothers than /dog/. They will shit on anyone who touches a fucking russian rookie ship. It's the same in real life. shadow of xx is modern Russia and most of the drone region and some southern space are ex-USSR countries that still consider themselves Russian.

>>135777279
Russians.
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it's fun to kill stuff in drone regions if you come in through a cheeky wormhole

>my face when this is a belt, not a pos
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>Like fighting Angels
>Want to fight them in sov null.
>All corps mostly only speak Russian.
>>
>>135776860
Renter space.

And it's shit. But then again, people think Deklein is sfae. Deep russian renter space is something else. Bot carriers, hundred KM bubble fields on gates, miners, idiots and russians. Everywhere.
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>finally a good reason to be russian, and you are not russian
>>
it's not like you need to actually defend your space to rat there. you just need to put up a bunch of bubbles (ccp pls nerf), put an alt 1j out and watch local, and keep track of wormhole sigs. if you try flying through cobalt edge, malpais, oasa, it's just little pockets of people. you can see them on dotlan by rat kills, and pilots in space on the in game map. everywhere between these areas is dead and basically safe all the time. they'll only fuck with you if you go into their ratting/mining pocket, which you know where they consider it to start because there'll be a wall of bubbles. they might just hide from you though, depends.

also these drone regions are real far from pvpers, so it's not so easy to get there if you want to go somewhere specific, they probably get way less roaming traffic than somewhere lowsec adjacent. they're mostly only adjacent to non-pvper cfcucks and other similar shitters who just want to sit around farming
>>
>run tens of guristas sites
>get more ISK from the bounties than drops
Is this bad luck?
>>
>>135779904
no, theyre shit
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>>135778271
just bend the knee and pay the ISK and suddenly the Russians start speaking English)))
>>
>>135780049
Are you saying this because you don't want competition or because they are shit?
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>>135780526
because theyre actually shit

in lowsec you might, by chance, get a permanent skin worth something or a gecko, but good luck

in highsec you dont get either
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>>135778248
>9 skiffs/procs
Enjoy getting raped by drones.
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I haven't played in over 6 years. Getting my shit teleported out of god knows where via a ticket.

what did I miss
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>>135780831
it's incredibly rare to find miners or even ratters that actually stay and hold their field. most of the time when I kill a mining ship, it's only possible because he and his friends all tried to run, and I caught one.

obviously I wasn't going to solo engage all that shit in the pic. organising a drop sometime that manages to wipe out an entire stack of like 20 exhumers would be so sweet, and you need people like this to make it happen if you aren't a permacloak autist
>>
>>135781367
polarized machariels
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>>135781367
death of the game and anything you hold dear
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>>135778271
hmm, you'd fit here with us

chillest null ever with small sov that is left alone by the big boys for some content
>>
>>135781512
>>135781812
The UI is a bloody mess, and the jukebox disappeared.
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>>135781367
You missed all the bad times. EVE is now better than ever but all the bitter vets have grown lazy and fat and don't realize this.
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>drop out of corp to avoid wardec
>my CEO/directors are MIA as usual, gonna be days ahead before re-entering
>wat do?
>maybe mine
>maybe run gurista site in highsec with little to no competition or people simply bothering me
>I got an unfitted raven from ages ago, when I wanted to find a better mission running BS
>fit it with garbage in the loot containers
well, let's see how it goes
>>
>limos
>thermal
>>
Anyone with raw stats on the Guristas Cruisers in the Detentions?
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>>135782609
protip: you are gonna lose every contest to gilas/tengus/vexors and you are way overtanked
>>
>tfw just got a new carrier
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>>135782609
>maybe run gurista site in highsec with little to no competition or people simply bothering me
its the other way around, people are faggots in highsec and will attempt to steal your shit
in nullsec they are pussies and half the time they won't even attempt to even look at you
and in WH you will get cloaky camped to death
>>
Someone post a gila fit for these sites?
>>
>>135783532
literally anything, gilas do like 800 dps
>>
>>135783532
[Gila, Gila]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Drone Navigation Computer II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Drone Navigation Computer II

[Empty High slot]
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
switch missiles to whatever you like, switch the amplifier for a hardener if you want
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>>135784149
>rigging for pve
wow, just do full T2 CDFEs or more nanoish rigs
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>>135784518
>rigging for pve
wow its almost like he asked for a pve gila fit for highsec
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Did anybody even found SKINs that aren't Merlin/Bantam yet?
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>>135784683
>pve gila fit for highsec
why waste the rig slots for some shitty pve righs when you can run all the highsec sites in an unfit gila
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Why can't we have SKINs for strategic cruisers?
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>>135784970
>bantam

>ccp releasing skins for ugly ships

bantam navitas burst redesign when

>>135785928
because only faggots fly strategic cruisers, you don't deserve skins
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>>135785959
>because only faggots fly strategic cruisers, you don't deserve skins
:^(
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>>135785959
Explain skins for caps/supers then?
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>>135786087
for real though, didn't they say it was something like T3Cs hadn't been upgraded to the latest version of the shader or whatever thing with the new physically based rendering or whatever, and that they only changed them over recently. I think that's why T3Cs got killmarks late, so maybe they'll get skins soon they'll still look ugly as shit though
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>>135786249
Sheckles
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>Scorpion Gurista skin
who even uses the scorpion?
it's got it's strength in the ECM department, it's useless for PvE, and for PvP drones are immune and everybody uses drones
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>mfw logging off in a drifter wormhole
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>>135786338
>implying t3c skins wouldnt net even more money
There is only so much cap pilots, but literally everybody can fly a t3.
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>>135785928
it would take effort to make the skins not break when changing subsystems
its just easier to add a bantam and moa skin with copy pasted blood raider sites
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>>135786813
it's not useless because of drones, it's useless because it's a battleship without insane ehp and also because it's an ewar battleship, which is inherently pretty dumb

I'd be cool with dropping the ecm range bonus for some kind of weapon bonus and giving it more hardpoints, make it brawly. or there's a bunch of other things it could do I guess. fuck ecm though, so cancerous
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>he doesnt triple plate his scorpion

baka desu senpai
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Is there a way to create folders/crates/categories in your item hangar? how?
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>armor on caldari

I can't believe they actually gave it an extra low to appease you shitfitters
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>>135786813
It used to be good when it was 50M isk
Now there is no reason to use it
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>>135787845
just use big freight cans
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>>135787845
freight cans or other cans named after what you want them to be
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>>135787845
>>135787943

they should let you tag items

cans are aids

also the correct type of container is station container
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>>135787845
buy Staion Vault containers.
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>>135787893
>mfw shield tanked gallente for maximum dps

>>135788059
>>135788102
>station containers
annoying if you move a lot since they have a 2 week period before you can repackage them
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You can get 40km range with ecm burst on a scorpion
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>>135788059
They should let you plut fucking depots in a can.

>muh cant put planck container into another hurr durr

Fuck you ccp, it triggers me as fuck not having cleaned item hangar when i have to have the depots there.
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>>135788260
can you put multiple on a scorpion?
that would be 3cancerous5me
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Psychotic Monk for CSM
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>>135788186
I guess. I just pull the stuff out of each container and put them in separate contracts when moving

>>135788269
this bothers me. why can't a packaged mobile depot just not be a 'planck generator'? surely that fits with all their backwards legacy shit code
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>>135788438
no, but you could use multiple scorpions
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>>135788704
>giant ring of scorpions on a gate
>all of them have ecm burst
>all of them have smartbombs
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>You will never get to bring this to a fight
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>>135789250
>not showing the cap life with smartbombs on
wew mate
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>>135789662
yeah I know how this goes m8, I show the cap life doing something I'd never actually do, then you shitpost about how the cap life sucks. it's 1m20s with hardeners, burst and bombs running, 58s with the breaker running as well. it's fine, it's just like flying amarr
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>revelation
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is eve lagging like a mofo or is it just me?
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>>135794701
you
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>>135789250
a rokh is better for this
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>>135798670
scorpion has +75% burst jammer strength and +125% burst jammer range

you won't get kicked from your own alliance for jamming them all if you only have weedy shit range and low strength, you need a scorpion
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>he didn't sell his Geckos the moment unconfirmed leaks started to appear
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>all-out is a lowsec "we batphone pl" corp now

if they had any shame it certainly doesn't exist now
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>>135799028
this fit is absolute shit and ruins friendly targeting systems as well, its completely cap innefficient and is a huge waste of time and money.

You're just gonna jam everyone (including friendlies) then die immediately
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>>135802849
uh excuse me sir, different name. all-out still lives in a wormhole and is dead
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>>135803046
no shame
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o7
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>>135803024
>die
>with 4 stabs, mjd and everyone getting their shit jammed
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>all-out needs to batphone PL to protect their C2
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>>135804852
>get bubbled
>get neuted the fuck out
>only 9 ECM strength
>jam virtually no one
>blow your target breaker
>ruin your cap
>everyones targetting comes back
>beat the ever loving fuck out of you
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>>135801294
>acting on unconfirmed leaks
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>>135805169
>bubbled
>my mjd when

it has 18.9 burst strength fagwad

what kind of shitter takes a comedy fun fit for trolling enemy fleets and gets all upset about it
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tfw secret burst scorp doctrine
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>not acting on unconfirmed leaks
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>>135805351
but you can MJD inside a bubble numbnuts
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>>135805628
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>>135805628
was for >>135805169
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>>135805351
>it has 18.9
no its 9

you don't have any signal amps on it

it has a base of 7.2 and the 15% bonus to strength at max level buys you +75% to the multiplier and tertiary skills

7.2 with skills and the= 9 after the skill and multiplier kicks in

its shit, you're gonna get one burst off, jam a few things then get raped on a gate as you're neuted to death

go ahead MJD away if you have any cap left you're just gonna get bounced on by a command destroyer and tackled
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has anyone submitted tickets for not receiving the leveling reward when this turd bugs out?

Think CCP will refund around 10 levels on each client worth of AK?
that would be like almost 2bil in iskies
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>>135805943
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>>135806149
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>>135805943
>implying I won't be aligned
>implying he will react fast enough and aim perfectly at my location and be in range of scramble
>implying I can't just jam him if he does manage to get a scramble on me
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>>135805943
yeah and I'll be on every killmail within 40km, while you'll be following f1 broadcasts like a cuck and being bad at math. you're probably such a shitter you fly logi, too bad you won't be able to rep me because I'll be jamming you and popping your rep drones
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>>135806215
>he uses pyfa and expects it to be anywhere near accurate in calculating anything

good goyim
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>>135806215
>pyfa
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>>135806215
>pyfa
I bet you are the fag that thinks a curse medium neut neuts 0 at 50kms
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>pyfa
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>>135806323
>I'm gonna cover all my bases for this really dumb and cheap kill
>he couldn't possibly know my direction
even if he doesn't MJD with you, he has 6 seconds to align and MJD to you and scram you

>I'm just gonna jam a command destroyer having only a 50% chance of getting it off
>30 second cycle time
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>command destroyer scrams me
>mfw I have 4 stabs, a spectrum breaker, a burst jammer and 15 ecm drones
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>>135806436
You're a fucking idiot, that guy never proved you could neut at 50km, he just kept saying it and had zero evidence for it and got BTFO anyway. sure it'll let you activate but you'll neut for near zero
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>pyfa
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>near zero = zero
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>>135806603
8% past fo
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>>135806585
>activate it once
>lost all your cap
>try to cap boost
>don't get enough back to ever run it

theres a reason why no one flies scorpions ever
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>>135806505
>even if he doesn't MJD with you, he has 6 seconds to align and MJD to you and scram you
you realize it takes 1 second to enter warp if I MJD and hit warp right?
can you lock and scramble me in less than 1 second?
nope.

>I'm just gonna jam a command destroyer having only a 50% chance of getting it off
50%, sounds like better chance than you reacting to my MJD and perfectly landing on top of me when you are actively moving around trying not to die because everyone including me shoots those things on sight, or did you think it was gonna be a nice walk in the park textbook MJD?
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I have HACs to 4, but still only t1 heavies.

Should I wait for t2 heavies or sentries before I buy an ishtar?
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>>135806783
hacs are shit
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>>135806783
you can use navy drones, but you're gonna spend more isk
they are close in performance to T2 drones but you're also obviously missing the skill %
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>>135806719
>pretending your command destroyer has 5 points
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>>135806709
8% of what? 8% of initial? 8% of 360 is only 28gj which is nothing, when its cycling once every 12 seconds thats 2.4gj/s which is again something you can shrug off with your normal cap regen.

>>135806708
1/x never reaches zero either but its so fucking close it might as well be
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>>135806751
>I'm just gonna jam them all then MJD out
>even if I don't jam them all
>assuming I jam any significant number with only 9 strength
>just gonna get scrambled, cap myself out, then die

>>135806884
>pretending you'll jam any significant number of people enough to get away
>wow
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>>135806603
>but you'll neut for near zero
so now you're agreeing that its not a cold zero, its actually a number higher than zero, good we're getting there, next will be for you to get on a L5 recon curse and see the real result.
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>>135807084
just because you activate a gun, doesn't mean it'll hit

neuts work the same way as guns with falloff, if you're at double the falloff, your chance to hit is less than 1% which might as well be zero.

this means if you attempt to neut at double falloff, it'll neut for so little it won't mean anything or affect anyone for any amount they're gonna worry about
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>>135807051
you mean 19 strength

judging by this thread I'd say my scorpion fit is successful, would post again
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>neuts
>chance to hit
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>>135807084
>you have to get on a L5 recon
why don't you since you're making the claim? you have no proof of your assertion that you can neut someone for any significant amount at double falloff

>>135807240
its not 19 at all, in game you'll only get 9 assuming you have max skills, griffens and blackbirds have the same bonus and never exceed that
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>have really bad runs
>have to sit at toilet and shitpost irl
>reading all these shitposts relaxes me enough for my irl shitpost to come out naturally

thanks /dog/
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>>135807218
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=454102 kill yourself
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>Scorpions
besides if somebody starts doing unironic gurista fleets, a scorpion could be used as a battlecruiser/cheapo battleship that can be fitted with everything, like the gnosis
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>>135807241
Neuting for a relative amount at double falloff goes under the same falloff curve that a gun does when calculating chance to hit
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>>135807484
its not chance to hit its flat-out effectiveness

guns and neuts at edge of falloff is not a 50% chance to miss
its 50% less damage
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>>135807379
>6% at double falloff
thats nothing
see
>>135806942
6% of 360gj/12 seconds is 21.6/12s which is 1.8gj/s which is shruged off so stupidly easy by any ship you wouldn't cap out a shuttle
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>>135807051
>I'm just gonna jam them all then MJD out
>even if I don't jam them all
>assuming I jam any significant number with only 9 strength
>just gonna get scrambled, cap myself out, then die
how many people are tackling the ship now?
because I feel you keep adding one everytime you post.

Also I like how you suddenly stopped fantasizing about chasing me in a MJD destroyer and now I can't even MJD in this fantasy of yours because you realized how autistic your story to chase me was.

Keep it up, keep adding random variables to suit your shit, are you gonna start posting with MY SCENARIO STANDS?
Can I call you 50 cents and tell /k/ you're not working for the Chinese anymore?
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>>135807587
>guns and neuts at edge of falloff is not a 50% chance to miss
>its 50% less damage
and a gun shooting at 50% falloff is 50% less maximum DPS
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>>135806819
Why?
>>
STOP FIGHTING
WHERES KEVIN
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>>135807710
its not miss though

its effectiveness

its not the same
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>>135807635
>how many people are tackling the ship now?
I could have 3 interceptors, 3 dictors and any slew of other long pointing ships like a lachesis or something and pin you, your jam won't jam all of them successfully
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>>135807794
effective neuting strength and effective DPS are the same in that instance
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>>135807807
>putting all of your points on a single troll scorpion
>enemy fleet warps away

lel
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>>135807807
a lachesis is in the fight now?
so there is a more expensive ship fighting my battleship with T2 stats

I'm assuming I can add friends into this scenario of yours?
Can I also have 3 ceptors and 3 dictors?

Seems pretty even im my very honest opinion
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>>135807918
nah

if it were miss than arty would be way too good in falloff

but its flat DR so if it can track, it hits every-time, just for less damage

its not the same, dont be so dense
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>>135807970
>implying no one kills the blackbird or griffin first
your scorpion has like 93k EHP which isn't a lot, I'd rather blow 220 million on a rook or falcon and get the same thing and better.

>>135808043
>so there is a more expensive ship fighting my battleship with T2 stats
a lachesis isn't expensive at all, stop being poor.

>implying your 3 dictors and ceptors matter when I'm on the offensive

Theres a reason no one flies scorpions
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>>135807361
Base is 7.2, signal disruption skill is +25%, scorpion bonus +75%, heat is 20%. Learn to math fag
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>>135808168
Effective DPS accounts for range

when you're at your falloff range, your DPS is half, your guns will hit half the time which means on average, your DPS is half
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>>135808262
thats not how the percentages are added, the jam strength and jam bonuses are additive multipliers

its why the 75% strength bonus with the skill bonuses don't directly stack multiplicative, they're additive
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>>135808362
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>>135808362
You are wrong. Oh and I forgot links, that's an extra 34% :^)
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>>135808272
>your guns will hit half the time
no
no
no
no
no
Jesus chirst
its not accuracy
its damage effectiveness
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>>135808432
its the same reason why 2% to surgical strike on guns doesn't up your DPS by 2% because thats +2% on a the damage multiplier, not the base damage of the gun
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>>135808496
Thats literally what I said

DPS is damage effectiveness

at your falloff, your guns hit 50% of the time, this means you're doing half your optimal DPS

>>135808487
>just add links
no wonder
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>>135808180
>a lachesis isn't expensive at all, stop being poor.
completely fit it costs a little less than a T1 battleship, but you don't get the massive insurance return of a T1 battleship.
So yes I would say that a lachesis is way more expensive.

>I'm on the offensive
not when half your ceptors and dictors can't lock anything
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>>135808518
good start
I declare scorpfags the winners
>>135808518
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>>135808513
are you implying that the 15% damage bonus surgical strike provides is not a 15% bonus to your damage, but somehow works out as being more or less than 15%?
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>>135808671
>completely fit it costs a little less than a T1 battleship, but you don't get the massive insurance return of a T1 battleship.
>So yes I would say that a lachesis is way more expensive.
Not really at all, 200m is literally piss change, you're poor
>insurance
what, your corp doesn't give you SRP? inb4 goons/mitanni/somedumbshit

>not when your dictors and interceptors can't target anything
you're gonna jam 1 or 2 of them, the probability of jamming more than 2 is wicked low

roll a dice 6 times, whats the probability of getting desired outcome 6 times in a row?
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>>135808806
>are you implying that the 15% damage bonus surgical strike provides is not a 15% bonus to your damage, but somehow works out as being more or less than 15%?
yes

because its 15% to the damage multiplier, not your actual damage. These skills all apply their respective multipliers

lots of them are multiplicative, its why the Eagle's double 10% range bonus really gives you 125%
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>>135808652
>at your falloff, your guns hit 50% of the time
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YOU IMBECILE
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>>135808812
I might be poor but I still have common sense

>what, your corp doesn't give you SRP? inb4 goons/mitanni/somedumbshit
what does that have anything to do with insurance?
if you're getting SRP on top of a T1 loss you are literally making money from losing a ship with the insurance.

>you're gonna jam 1 or 2 of them, the probability of jamming more than 2 is wicked low
so you're saying my guys have a better chance now?
plus they have a battleship with drones and missiles shooting at them which is even if low dps, is still a lot more than a goddamn lachesis at 50kms
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>>135808973
>when you're at falloff, your guns don't miss as a percentage based about it

if you're at 0% falloff, you do 100% dps relative to falloff

if you're at 50% falloff, you hit 50% of the time for 50% dps relative to falloff

if you're at double falloff, which is 100%, you hit virtually 0% of the time for zero dps
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>>135808995
>if you're getting SRP on top of a T1 loss you are literally making money from losing a ship with the insurance.
>implying our SRP isn't calculated for that

you post a KM, the insurance payout then we give you SRP based on the total minus insurance
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>>135809083
>you hit 50% of the time
no
fucking hell

do you have water on the brain

falloff has nothing to do with tracking
its is a percentage damage reduction of your full damage, NOT A FUCKING MISS nth TIMES
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>>135809163
not even the goons do that, trust me I was in goons for a short period when I was new, I was making 5mil profit when losing navy frigates and I wasn't even in the main goon corp that gets 2x SRP
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>>135809206
>its is a percentage damage reduction of your full damage, NOT A FUCKING MISS nth TIMES


I do 100 DPS at 10km, which is the edge of my optimal

I have 5km falloff, for a total of 15km

if I shoot at something at 10km, my guns always hit

if I shoot at something at 15, my guns hit 50% of the time

this means if my guns hit only 1/2 that means my dps is therefore halved as well
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>>135809298
>the goons don't do that

great thing we're not goons
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>>135809335
the game does not work that are for the sixth time.

If you do 100 dps at your optimal of 10km
and
you have a falloff at 15km
you will hit 100% of the time at 10km and 15km provided tracking allows,
for 100% and 50% damage respectively

miss chance has nothing to do with this
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>>135809538
>miss chance has nothing to do with this
CTH works like that yes

if my guns do 100dps (if they hit) but they only hit half the time, my average DPS is 50 which is exactly how falloff works
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>>135809538
+1 to this, this is my understanding of it as well
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>>135809697
No it doesent

it takes your optimal damage and cuts it in half
jesus christ what game are you playing, because it aint eve
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>>135809538
This is how it works (kinda)
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>>135809770

at the falloff range, your guns hit half the time, this halves your DPS
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>>135809697
say something has x angular velocity relative to you
if it is close, it has high transversal = more chance to miss
if it is far, it has low transversal = less chance to miss
this means it's actually more likely to hit things at range than close up (more noticeable with slow tracking guns ofc)
but the damage reduction is percentage based in falloff
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>>135809839
is english your first language

you dont see nados volleying for full damage well inot their falloff
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>>135809930
because chance to hit is done on each gun individually, at 50% falloff, 8 guns each have a 1/2 chance of hitting, so an average of 4 guns will hit, which means average DPS is half of 8 guns which is half total DPS

you are fucking retarded
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>>135810020
its
not
miss
chance

its fucking flat DR
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>>135809853
>but the damage reduction is percentage based in falloff
no its not, this is NEVER the case, your guns don't just do less damage at 50%, they do the same damage individually its calculated as a chance to hit
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Are the new event sites worth it to run
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>>135810109
>its fucking flat DR
no its not

ChanceToHit = 0.5 ^ ((((Transversal speed/(Range to target * Turret Tracking))*(Turret Signature Resolution / Target Signature Radius))^2) + ((max(0, Range To Target - Turret Optimal Range))/Turret Falloff)^2)

this is the chance to hit formula, NO WHERE is damage reduction EVER done
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>>135810139
this discussion is clearly not going to be concluded unless outside sources are linked, because both parties have been completely clear about their completely opposing understandings of the game

so start linking sources people
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>>135810250
looks like dr to me
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>>135810262
SEE
>>135810250
YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED

At 50% falloff, assuming all other factors constant, your guns will miss half the time

At 75% falloff, your guns will miss 3/4 of the time

at 25% falloff, you guns will miss 1/4 of the time.

Chance to Hit is done on a PER GUN BASIS, each is calculated individually even if you have them grouped, this is why tornado's ganks fail when they fire into falloff sometimes because RNG will make their guns miss depending on the falloff, tracking and other factors that cause them to fail the Chance to Hit
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shit, i have bad news for the percent reduction crowd

eve uni wiki is saying that it's chance to hit
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Gunnery_Guide#Range
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Turret_Damage#Falloff
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>>135810367
>looks like DR
its not damage reduction at all, thats chance to hit
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>>135810529
they are two seperate functions of the formula
dr
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>>135810605
you're trolling now

fuck off, you're not "pretending to be retarded"
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>>135810743
I could say the same for you
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>Connection Lost - A server process that you were using has gone offline
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>>135812172
I thought I'm the only one.
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What are some of the most important skills to hit V with? Besides CPU/Powergrid Management and the main weapon skills.
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>>135817185
Drones, (advanced) weapon upgrades, all engineering skills, propulsion jamming, tactical shield manipulation.
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